Michele Bachmann (R-Mars) announces on Twitter that the GOP House Administration has given the go-ahead to a House Tea Party Caucus.
Just got word that the Committee on House Administration officially approved the House Tea Party Caucus
Take that, NAACP!
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:01:17pm |
Michaels Steele ought to be the keynote speaker…
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:03:46pm |
I hope that Joe Biden gets up to announce that the GOP is not racist…
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:04:04pm |
Perhaps they can all wear little armband to identify themselves to one another, maybe a uniform. Something in brown maybe.
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PT Barnum Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:05:02pm |
They’ll all run around in Minnie Pearl hats with teabags instead of price tags.
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Lidane Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:05:19pm |
Oh, this should be fun. What will they do when the next Mark Williams pops up?
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:06:18pm |
I do hope they have a spell checker for the signs they will be holding up…
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What, me worry? Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:06:42pm |
I think this is a blessing for the Dems, but I don’t want to count my teabags before they’re steeped.
(Charles, I really love the “R-Mars”!)
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Radicchio ad Absurdum Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:07:06pm |
re: #10 ralphieboy
I do hope they have a spell checker for the signs they will be holding up…
Sharpies come with spell checker now?
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:07:06pm |
Tea Party “Race Summit” Coming To Philly.
This can only end well. //
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:10:57pm |
re: #13 Fozzie Bear
Tea Party “Race Summit” Coming To Philly.
This can only end well. //
I imagine it will go something like the battle of Pearl Harbor
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:11:04pm |
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Lidane Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:12:33pm |
re: #13 Fozzie Bear
Tea Party “Race Summit” Coming To Philly.
This can only end well. //
Heh. I can’t wait to see what comes out of that.
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:13:23pm |
re: #17 Lidane
Heh. I can’t wait to see what comes out of that.
The sound bytes alone will be snort worthy.
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SteveMcGazi Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:13:44pm |
re: #13 Fozzie Bear
Tea Party “Race Summit” Coming To Philly.
This can only end well. //
“The site for the event features 13 speakers, with at least 8 speakers being persons of color.” They may be the only persons of color at the event. Later, ‘“Think what it would mean to this nation if we would have an open forum and a real tea summit — instead of a beer summit — on race relations,” he said.
Jealous said he was open to the idea, but said the forum should be on issues other than race.
“There should be no debate about racism,” he said’
Heh.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:13:50pm |
who in their right mind would want to attend something such as this and ever be seen in public again
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Charles Johnson Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:13:50pm |
Andrew Breitbart has posted his “video proof” that the NAACP is “racist,” and man, is it weak. It’s almost embarrassing to see the nonsensical race-baiting slop he’s throwing to the hordes.
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Cineaste Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:14:31pm |
Someone needs to buy them the following:
1. A basic guide to American political thought. I recommend any of John Patrick Diggins’ books.
2. A dictionary/thesaurus combo pack.
3. Some Earl Gray tea to throw around the building (they’ll never get the irony of buying a British tea)
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Cineaste Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:15:38pm |
re: #22 Charles
Andrew Breitbart has posted his “video proof” that the NAACP is “racist,” and man, is it weak. It’s almost embarrassing to see the nonsensical race-baiting slop he’s throwing to the hordes.
I don’t understand how an organization whose entire purpose is to deal with race issues can be accused of “playing the race card”. It’s like accusing a blackjack player of “playing the ace”.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:16:50pm |
i wish drudge and breitbart would suffer some kind of mild form of amnesia where they forget what the internet is and how to use it.
oh, and what pants are.
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SteveMcGazi Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:16:50pm |
I can’t wait for the delegate on the street interviews.
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:18:13pm |
re: #24 Cineaste
I don’t understand how an organization whose entire purpose is to deal with race issues can be accused of “playing the race card”. It’s like accusing a blackjack player of “playing the ace”.
Cheap dirty card shark trickery!
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Surabaya Stew Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:19:07pm |
re: #11 marjoriemoon
I think this is a blessing for the Dems, but I don’t want to count my teabags before they’re steeped.
(Charles, I really love the “R-Mars”!)
“Mars” is absolutly incorrect; doesn’t everyone know that only male wingnuts are from mars? Female wingnuts are from Venus!
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SteveMcGazi Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:19:54pm |
“How come they can use the n-word and we can’t” will be the #1 sounbyte. Coming in a close second, “They won’t let white people join the NAACP.” It’s going to be a gripe session.
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garhighway Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:20:37pm |
re: #24 Cineaste
I don’t understand how an organization whose entire purpose is to deal with race issues can be accused of “playing the race card”. It’s like accusing a blackjack player of “playing the ace”.
It’s like accusing the dealer of “playing the card card”.
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Macha Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:20:52pm |
OT- I want to congratulate McSpiff and Sattv4u2 for the deft manner in which they ran off a new member this morning by acting like a couple of juveniles who had nothing better to do than hassle the newbie JCrow. Even though he hadn’t posted anything negative and was attempting to engage in a reasonable dialog, the pair of you went after his name with the usual snarkiness. It didn’t help that he was learning how to post on here and didn’t know how to use the quote buttons or any other navigation tools, nor did he know the process by which we all answer each other. You two were having too good a time amusing yourselves, to give a new person the benefit of the doubt. If Charles is trying to grow this site by attracting intelligent and thoughtful members, he just lost an excellent potential member, who I very seriously doubt will be back. And BTW, JCrow is my husband and his name is one he has used for years. It doesn’t have anything to do with politics, race or any other projections you may have had whirling in your heads.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:22:10pm |
This is only an appalling form of blame the victim. The teabags know they are racist scum. Rather than clean their own house, they blame the victim and attempt to put the aggrieved on defense.
It is the same tactic of trying to show in court that the rape victim was a “slut who asked for it.” It is just as false and just as appalling.
I recognize that we should not call for violence and that Charles frowns on this - so rather than calling for beat downs of tea-baggers, can I simply wish them a severe limp?
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Macha Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:22:28pm |
re: #31 Macha
I now see that neither of you are here, though you were when I wrote this. I’ll wait till you return and repost.
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Linden Arden Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:22:29pm |
Without looking to see who the Tea Party House caucus is - I would put money on Steve King and Marsha Blackburn as co-chairs.
Runner up - Louis Golmert (sp?) the crazy man from Texas.
Just a hunch.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:22:50pm |
A key gripe (as featured in a book advertised on Newsmax) is that “liberals” will call anyone a racist who opposes Obama’s politics.
Which is not the case at all, it is entirely possible to be against Obama and not be a racist.
But it is difficult not to come across as racist if one has no reasonable, sound arguments against Obama other than knee-jerk, emotional rants.
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wrenchwench Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:23:48pm |
I will be interested to see who signs up.
There are a lot of caucuses. I can’t find an official list, but here’s just the ones Earl Blumenauer belongs to, including a Bike Caucus.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:24:15pm |
re: #34 Linden Arden
Without looking to see who the Tea Party House caucus is - I would put money on Steve King and Marsha Blackburn as co-chairs.
Runner up - Louis Golmert (sp?) the crazy man from Texas.
Just a hunch.
Ahhh Texas… Gohmert… Paul… Barton…. Perry…. W… Dr. Phil even…
For simply too long in our class of 50, this has been the kid that eats paste and brings the curve down.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:24:59pm |
re: #31 Macha
Well, that’s not cool, and I apologize on behalf of LGF. However, a thick skin is a necessity when posting comments anywhere on the Internet, not just here.
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garhighway Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:25:07pm |
re: #35 ralphieboy
A key gripe (as featured in a book advertised on Newsmax) is that “liberals” will call anyone a racist who opposes Obama’s politics.
Which is not the case at all, it is entirely possible to be against Obama and not be a racist.
But it is difficult not to come across as racist if one has no reasonable, sound arguments against Obama other than knee-jerk, emotional rants.
Or if one peppers one’s comments with references to his African heritage. Or monkey references. Or witchdoctor references. Etc…
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MrSilverDragon Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:25:16pm |
re: #28 Surabaya Stew
“Mars” is absolutly incorrect; doesn’t everyone know that only male wingnuts are from mars? Female wingnuts are from Venus!
That whole Men from Mars/Women from Venus thing always cracked me up, considering that Mars is a dead planet, and Venus is a very volitile planet…
/don’t shoot the messenger.
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SteveMcGazi Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:25:44pm |
So what exactly is the Tea Party Caucus going to do?
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Interesting Times Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:26:26pm |
re: #42 SteveMcG
So what exactly is the Tea Party Caucus going to do?
Provide endless material for Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:26:42pm |
re: #35 ralphieboy
A key gripe (as featured in a book advertised on Newsmax) is that “liberals” will call anyone a racist who opposes Obama’s politics.
Which is not the case at all, it is entirely possible to be against Obama and not be a racist.
But it is difficult not to come across as racist if one has no reasonable, sound arguments against Obama other than knee-jerk, emotional rants.
I’ve had a couple of gripes with Obama - the moratorium, and the make-up of the panel studying this thing - and I’ve described my reasons why, and no one has called me a racist.
It is, as you say, perfectly possible to take issue in a rational way, without engaging in a knee-jerk, emotional rant.
The R’s need to learn this and learn it quickly.
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Lidane Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:27:01pm |
re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The sound bytes alone will be snort worthy.
I can’t wait for the inevitable teabagger wingnut who says that the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments are racist and should be repealed.
The reaction from the House Tea Party caucus should be enlightening.
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:27:41pm |
re: #42 SteveMcG
So what exactly is the Tea Party Caucus going to do?
From their background and history, one would guess make wild off the wall statement, ludicrous historical comparisons, invoke Jesus at the drop of a hat and look like complete idiots every chance they get.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:28:51pm |
re: #33 Macha
I now see that neither of you are here, though you were when I wrote this. I’ll wait till you return and repost.
Sorry about the way your newbe Husband was treated here…
encourage him to return…
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:29:45pm |
re: #31 Macha
Macha, the morning crowd is a little different than the late night crowd.
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SteveMcGazi Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:29:55pm |
re: #46 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
They do that already. What will a Tea Party Caucus do as a legislative body? The only thing I can see happening is a further constriction of the Republican Party policy.
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SteveMcGazi Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:30:59pm |
re: #47 HoosierHoops
Sorry about the way your newbe Husband was treated here…
encourage him to return…
I hope that by the time he does, I’ve forgotten his screen name.
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garhighway Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:31:30pm |
re: #49 SteveMcG
They do that already. What will a Tea Party Caucus do as a legislative body? The only thing I can see happening is a further constriction of the Republican Party policy.
If anyone listens to them. I am not sure that Ms. Bachman has the ear of the leadership.
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:31:34pm |
re: #35 ralphieboy
A key gripe (as featured in a book advertised on Newsmax) is that “liberals” will call anyone a racist who opposes Obama’s politics.
Which is not the case at all, it is entirely possible to be against Obama and not be a racist.
But it is difficult not to come across as racist if one has no reasonable, sound arguments against Obama other than knee-jerk, emotional rants.
Having issues with Obama’s policies, citing experts in the field, historical paralells, etc, not racist.
Emailing him photoshopped at a witch doctor, talking about “coloreds” and “massa”, might be more than just a tad racist there.
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:32:26pm |
re: #49 SteveMcG
They do that already. What will a Tea Party Caucus do as a legislative body? The only thing I can see happening is a further constriction of the Republican Party policy.
What do the other causcuses do?
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:32:37pm |
re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Having issues with Obama’s policies, citing experts in the field, historical paralells, etc, not racist.
Emailing him photoshopped at a witch doctor, talking about “coloreds” and “massa”, might be more than just a tad racist there.
Like you mentioned, it calls for the ability to engage in civil discourse and reasonable argumentation, traints that are sometimes lacking these days.
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Linden Arden Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:32:53pm |
re: #42 SteveMcG
So what exactly is the Tea Party Caucus going to do?
I hope their first movement is to petition for a long-form birth certificate.
It would cement their irrelevance on that day.
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SteveMcGazi Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:33:36pm |
re: #51 garhighway
If anyone listens to them. I am not sure that Ms. Bachman has the ear of the leadership.
May not matter. Forty years ago the Republican Party decided to try to ride the wave of Dixiecrat resentment to power. All that happened was the destruction of the Republican Party as we knew it. Now, again for expedience’ sake, they’re going to ride another wave of anger. Where will that take them (and us)?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:33:39pm |
re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Having issues with Obama’s policies, citing experts in the field, historical paralells, etc, not racist.
Emailing him photoshopped at a witch doctor, talking about “coloreds” and “massa”, might be more than just a tad racist there.
The entire teabag identity revolves around the fear that white folks in America are under attack. This is their central meme. There is no way to remove racism once you start from that premise.
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Linden Arden Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:35:08pm |
re: #57 LudwigVanQuixote
The entire teabag identity revolves around the fear that white folks in America are under attack. This is their central meme. There is no way to remove racism once you start from that premise.
They hate white secularistslike myself too.
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:35:28pm |
re: #57 LudwigVanQuixote
The entire teabag identity revolves around the fear that white folks in America are under attack. This is their central meme. There is no way to remove racism once you start from that premise.
Hehe, I’m a quisling in the race war. I married a hot japanese chick.
TAKE THAT!
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:36:13pm |
re: #59 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Hehe, I’m a quisling in the race war. I married a hot japanese chick.
TAKE THAT!
I married a Latina. WHAT NOW TEA PARTY!?!?!??!
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SteveMcGazi Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:36:46pm |
re: #57 LudwigVanQuixote
The entire teabag identity revolves around the fear that white folks in America are under attack. This is their central meme. There is no way to remove racism once you start from that premise.
Agree completely. No foreign power ever imposed taxes on us. We have only ourselves to blame for the national debt. Yet the Teabaggers insist on blaming youknowwho. Even though he’s been in office only a year and a half. And even though Congress writes the tax laws.
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:37:48pm |
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SteveMcGazi Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:37:50pm |
re: #60 Fozzie Bear
I married a Latina. WHAT NOW TEA PARTY!?!?!??!
I married a WASP. I think I’ll keep her. (Bonus points if you remember the commercial)
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Linden Arden Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:38:09pm |
re: #61 SteveMcG
Agree completely. No foreign power ever imposed taxes on us. We have only ourselves to blame for the national debt. Yet the Teabaggers insist on blaming youknowwho. Even though he’s been in office only a year and a half. And even though Congress writes the tax laws.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:38:13pm |
re: #57 LudwigVanQuixote
The entire teabag identity revolves around the fear that white folks in America are under attack. This is their central meme. There is no way to remove racism once you start from that premise.
G-d willing, into another 20 years of Dem governments.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:38:15pm |
re: #29 SteveMcG
“How come they can use the n-word and we can’t” will be the #1 sounbyte. Coming in a close second, “They won’t let white people join the NAACP.” It’s going to be a gripe session.
Well, I just checked the membership page on the website, and they didn’t ask me anything about my race there. Are they just gonna check the blood sample I had to send in?
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Surabaya Stew Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:38:48pm |
re: #60 Fozzie Bear
I married a Latina. WHAT NOW TEA PARTY!?!?!??!
So did Jeb Bush, the GOP’s best hope for 2012….guess he’s outa luck with the TP….
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:39:08pm |
re: #60 Fozzie Bear
I married a Latina. WHAT NOW TEA PARTY!?!?!??!
By the way, my wife is a perfect example of why the GOP is committing political suicide. She, and her entire family used to be self-identifying conservatives. Her mother now spits on the ground whenever anybody mentions the words “Tea Parties”, “GOP”, or “Republicans”. In her mom’s world, you spit when somebody utters an obscenity.
They have managed to more than alienate a few former loyal GOP voters. They have made enemies of them.
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lawhawk Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:39:20pm |
re: #60 Fozzie Bear
I married a Latina. WHAT NOW TEA PARTY!?!?!??!
I’ll see and raise you on the intermarriage thing…
I’m a Yankee fan and I married a Mets fan. ///////
Okay, it’s not nearly as bad as a Yankee fan marrying a BoSox fan or a Mets fan marrying a Braves fan, but one thing we can all agree on is that Philly sucks.. /// oh -only half jesting there….
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:39:24pm |
re: #62 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Did you make an anchor baby? You know that is what they, evil, racist, teabags, will spew at you if you have kids.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:39:28pm |
re: #42 SteveMcG
So what exactly is the Tea Party Caucus going to do?
They’re gonna have a raucous caucus!
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:40:00pm |
re: #63 SteveMcG
I married a WASP. I think I’ll keep her. (Bonus points if you remember the commercial)
Geritol?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:40:40pm |
re: #29 SteveMcG
“How come they can use the n-word and we can’t” will be the #1 sounbyte. Coming in a close second, “They won’t let white people join the NAACP.” It’s going to be a gripe session.
That was a sentiment that recently caused a regular troll poster here to get a time out.
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Big Steve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:41:18pm |
I have been busy lately (I work for BP) so haven’t been posting much but would it be indelicate for me to ask what happened to Sharmuta?
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avanti Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:41:25pm |
The DOJ page is now socialist. /
Here’s the Commie quote in question on the DOJ web site:
“The common law is the will of mankind issuing from the life of the people.”
Pretty outrageous to say laws imitate from the will of man I guess. (From the link)
“So much for the “Laws of Nature and Nature’s God,” the law that animated the Founders. So much our ”unalienable rights” coming from our Creator. Now they issue not from the hand of God but from the “will of mankind.”
BTW, Hot Air is covering it too.
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Lidane Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:41:31pm |
OT, but Sullivan pointed to LGF in his blog today:
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:41:44pm |
re: #70 LudwigVanQuixote
Did you make an anchor baby? You know that is what they, evil, racist, teabags, will spew at you if you have kids.
Two filthy little mogrels, with Italian, German and Japanese bloodline. Yup, I’m breeding my own little Axis powers one girl at a time.
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SteveMcGazi Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:42:07pm |
re: #66 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, I just checked the membership page on the website, and they didn’t ask me anything about my race there. Are they just gonna check the blood sample I had to send in?
What’s the big idea, bringing facts to the table? The race convention is a sacrosanct, fact free zone. I should downding your ass, but I’ll let you off with a warning.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:42:44pm |
re: #2 ralphieboy
Michaels Steele ought to be the keynote speaker…
Steele should be a keynote speaker at NAACP. Does he attend their meetings?
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Charles Johnson Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:42:59pm |
I’ve got a choice to make — I just got approached by an advertiser who wants to place ads on LGF from the “American Energy Alliance,” a well-known global warming denial group. This kind of issue is never easy to decide — is it better to take their money and use it to continue promoting the truth about global warming, or turn down the ads to prevent them from using LGF to promote deceptions?
If they don’t advertise at LGF, they’ll just go elsewhere, and there are plenty of websites that won’t have a problem.
Maybe I should ask the magic 8-ball.
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SteveMcGazi Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:43:25pm |
re: #72 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Geritol?
You got it! “My wife. I think I’ll keep her.” My mother used to go nuts. My father laughed his ass off.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:43:40pm |
re: #77 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Two filthy little mogrels, with Italian, German and Japanese bloodline. Yup, I’m breeding my own little Axis powers one girl at a time.
With that mix, they must be very beautiful.
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Linden Arden Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:44:19pm |
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:44:39pm |
re: #80 Charles
I’ve got a choice to make — I just got approached by an advertiser who wants to place ads on LGF from the “American Energy Alliance,” a well-known global warming denial group. This kind of issue is never easy to decide — is it better to take their money and use it to continue promoting the truth about global warming, or turn down the ads to prevent them from using LGF to promote deceptions?
If they don’t advertise at LGF, they’ll just go elsewhere, and there are plenty of websites that won’t have a problem.
Maybe I should ask the magic 8-ball.
Take their ad, then tell us everything you know about the organization purchasing the ad, then we will tear them apart rhetorically. Google-fu is strong here.
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Irenicum Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:44:53pm |
re: #80 Charles
My two cents says don’t take the money. It’s not worth the stink.
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:45:11pm |
re: #80 Charles
I’ve got a choice to make — I just got approached by an advertiser who wants to place ads on LGF from the “American Energy Alliance,” a well-known global warming denial group. This kind of issue is never easy to decide — is it better to take their money and use it to continue promoting the truth about global warming, or turn down the ads to prevent them from using LGF to promote deceptions?
If they don’t advertise at LGF, they’ll just go elsewhere, and there are plenty of websites that won’t have a problem.
Maybe I should ask the magic 8-ball.
Take their money. Better in your pocket than somewhere else. If they get pissy later with your continued Global warming articles, tell them to pound sand.
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Big Steve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:45:16pm |
re: #80 Charles
I’ve got a choice to make — I just got approached by an advertiser who wants to place ads on LGF from the “American Energy Alliance,” a well-known global warming denial group. This kind of issue is never easy to decide — is it better to take their money and use it to continue promoting the truth about global warming, or turn down the ads to prevent them from using LGF to promote deceptions?
If they don’t advertise at LGF, they’ll just go elsewhere, and there are plenty of websites that won’t have a problem.
Maybe I should ask the magic 8-ball.
Take the money……let them advertise……get agreement you get to approve ad content….always live within your means if they get pissed and leave.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:45:19pm |
re: #80 Charles
I’ve got a choice to make — I just got approached by an advertiser who wants to place ads on LGF from the “American Energy Alliance,” a well-known global warming denial group. This kind of issue is never easy to decide — is it better to take their money and use it to continue promoting the truth about global warming, or turn down the ads to prevent them from using LGF to promote deceptions?
If they don’t advertise at LGF, they’ll just go elsewhere, and there are plenty of websites that won’t have a problem.
Maybe I should ask the magic 8-ball.
Are you asking for opinions?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:45:27pm |
re: #80 Charles
Let me rephrase the question.
Suppose you were a synagogue website? Would you take money from a neo-nazi group?
Suppose you were the NAACP or another black group, would you take money from the teabags?
Times are tough, but you really do not need blood money on your hands.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:46:12pm |
re: #80 Charles
I’ve got a choice to make — I just got approached by an advertiser who wants to place ads on LGF from the “American Energy Alliance,” a well-known global warming denial group. This kind of issue is never easy to decide — is it better to take their money and use it to continue promoting the truth about global warming, or turn down the ads to prevent them from using LGF to promote deceptions?
If they don’t advertise at LGF, they’ll just go elsewhere, and there are plenty of websites that won’t have a problem.
Maybe I should ask the magic 8-ball.
Again, there is no honor in taking blood money.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:46:16pm |
re: #83 Linden Arden
Take their money.
LGF is informed.
I agree.. Newspapers take Ad money all the time without agreeing on the substance…As long as certain rules are conformed to.
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:46:25pm |
re: #80 Charles
I’ve got a choice to make — I just got approached by an advertiser who wants to place ads on LGF from the “American Energy Alliance,” a well-known global warming denial group. This kind of issue is never easy to decide — is it better to take their money and use it to continue promoting the truth about global warming, or turn down the ads to prevent them from using LGF to promote deceptions?
If they don’t advertise at LGF, they’ll just go elsewhere, and there are plenty of websites that won’t have a problem.
Maybe I should ask the magic 8-ball.
Take their money. It’s crystal clear what your position is. It would be like requiring denialist trolls to pay for the privilege of posting here, something they do for free now.
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:46:26pm |
re: #89 LudwigVanQuixote
Let me rephrase the question.
Suppose you were a synagogue website? Would you take money from a neo-nazi group?
Suppose you were the NAACP or another black group, would you take money from the teabags?
Times are tough, but you really do not need blood money on your hands.
I see it as a golden opportunity for an interesting object lesson. I would love to know what organization wants to buy this ad. Just a name.
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webevintage Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:46:40pm |
re: #80 Charles
I’ve got a choice to make — I just got approached by an advertiser who wants to place ads on LGF from the “American Energy Alliance,” a well-known global warming denial group. This kind of issue is never easy to decide — is it better to take their money and use it to continue promoting the truth about global warming, or turn down the ads to prevent them from using LGF to promote deceptions?
If they don’t advertise at LGF, they’ll just go elsewhere, and there are plenty of websites that won’t have a problem.
Maybe I should ask the magic 8-ball.
You could take the money then have a link next to the ad pointing to a thread bashing them.
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Big Steve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:46:48pm |
hey……we had the “Meet Muslim Girls” ads for quite a while.
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Irenicum Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:47:27pm |
re: #96 Big Steve
That was a google thing, not a Charles thing.
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ShaunP Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:47:51pm |
re: #95 webevintage
You could take the money then have a link next to the ad pointing to a thread bashing them.
Beat me to it…
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wrenchwench Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:48:01pm |
re: #80 Charles
Are you going to cringe a little every time you see one of their ads?
Yes—-> don’t do it.
No —-> go for it.
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Big Steve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:48:27pm |
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:48:33pm |
re: #93 Shiplord Kirel
Take their money. It’s crystal clear what your position is. It would be like requiring denialist trolls to pay for the privilege of posting here, something they do for free now.
Troll toll!
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:48:41pm |
re: #89 LudwigVanQuixote
Let me rephrase the question.
Suppose you were a synagogue website? Would you take money from a neo-nazi group?
Suppose you were the NAACP or another black group, would you take money from the teabags?
Times are tough, but you really do not need blood money on your hands.
I agree with LVQ, for slightly difference reasons, but I agree.
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SteveMcGazi Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:48:50pm |
re: #80 Charles
That’s one question you have to live with yourself. I won’t pretend to understand the financial demands of LGF. The best I could tell you is to be suspicious of the agency’s motives. Your readers will see right through the message if not ignore the ad, yet they want to post it anyway. Why could that be?
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elizajane Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:48:53pm |
re: #80 Charles
I’ve got a choice to make — I just got approached by an advertiser who wants to place ads on LGF from the “American Energy Alliance,” a well-known global warming denial group. This kind of issue is never easy to decide — is it better to take their money and use it to continue promoting the truth about global warming, or turn down the ads to prevent them from using LGF to promote deceptions?
If they don’t advertise at LGF, they’ll just go elsewhere, and there are plenty of websites that won’t have a problem.
Maybe I should ask the magic 8-ball.
Say no. Sorry, that money is just too tainted. Say no in memory of a real climate scientist: Steve Schneider, who just died unexpectedly in London, of a heart attack, aged 65. He was one of the team who won the Nobel Prize in 2006 for the work of the IPCC. More recently, he was the one who debunked the credentials of all those supposed “scientists” who signed the petition denying man-made climate change. He was an important voice and will be missed.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:49:09pm |
re: #74 Big Steve
I have been busy lately (I work for BP) so haven’t been posting much but would it be indelicate for me to ask what happened to Sharmuta?
Taking time out for spiritual matters.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:49:28pm |
re: #77 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Two filthy little mogrels, with Italian, German and Japanese bloodline. Yup, I’m breeding my own little Axis powers one girl at a time.
They sound adorable.
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webevintage Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:49:31pm |
Of course if it is an ad you have to approve approve, unlike the goggle ads, then that will give the impression to some folks that you agree with what they are selling.
It is a tough question….
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Radicchio ad Absurdum Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:50:18pm |
re: #80 Charles
I’ve got a choice to make — I just got approached by an advertiser who wants to place ads on LGF from the “American Energy Alliance,” a well-known global warming denial group. This kind of issue is never easy to decide — is it better to take their money and use it to continue promoting the truth about global warming, or turn down the ads to prevent them from using LGF to promote deceptions?
If they don’t advertise at LGF, they’ll just go elsewhere, and there are plenty of websites that won’t have a problem.
Maybe I should ask the magic 8-ball.
Seems no different than linking to a site which supports objectionable content - something which you do not allow.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:50:39pm |
re: #93 Shiplord Kirel
Take their money. It’s crystal clear what your position is. It would be like requiring denialist trolls to pay for the privilege of posting here, something they do for free now.
Would you buy a blood diamond? Would you accept one as a gift? How is this different?
I will understand if Charles feels the pinch of things enough to have to to this, but he knows it is morally wrong.
It is also morally wrong to accept advertising from people you intend to trash. That is the other moral side of this. You are setting a stumbling block before the blind on the one hand and taking money without clean hands on the other. That would be the Talmudic take on this at least.
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SteveMcGazi Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:50:53pm |
re: #103 SteveMcG
Following up, once upon a time I could have really picked something like that solicitation apart, but my brain has been washed up for years. I can still think pretty well, but the days I could really grind are over.
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McSpiff Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:51:24pm |
re: #31 Macha
I gave your husband the usual “Hey welcome, whats the story behind your name?”. Yes, I did because the user name “JCrow” through up some warning signs for me. He never bothered to answer. If that’s all it takes to scare him off, he’s probably not one for this site in the first place.
Why he couldn’t post a response in the first place I have no idea.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:51:47pm |
re: #96 Big Steve
hey…we had the “Meet Muslim Girls” ads for quite a while.
I don’t think anyone here is morally opposed to Muslim girls, though. Or to their getting married.
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wrenchwench Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:52:18pm |
re: #111 McSpiff
I gave your husband the usual “Hey welcome, whats the story behind your name?”. Yes, I did because the user name “JCrow” through up some warning signs for me. He never bothered to answer. If that’s all it takes to scare him off, he’s probably not one for this site in the first place.
Why he couldn’t post a response in the first place I have no idea.
I think he answered, but it came out under Macha’s nic. Shared ‘puter?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:52:44pm |
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Linden Arden Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:52:54pm |
My favorite lefty blog - Talking Points Memo, has ‘Vote Toomey Say No to Sestak” ads all the time.
I also post at Reason some - they have deep pockets in the Koch Brothers - they work differently.
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:52:56pm |
You know, being sunburned really fucking sucks.
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Macha Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:52:58pm |
re: #39 Charles
Well, that’s not cool, and I apologize on behalf of LGF. However, a thick skin is a necessity when posting comments anywhere on the Internet, not just here.
Thank you Charles. I think that is true to a degree. I know for a fact that JCrow anticipated a certain level of needing a thick skin. What makes me annoyed is the rapidity with which some members regress to very adolescent behavior without cause. It isn’t just in this instance. I’ve seen other people ridiculed and run off from almost the get go. Joking on a forum is one thing, and so is disagreement. But how in the world can we have meaningful exchanges that others will take seriously if we behave like a bunch of frat boys and girls with new members who are getting to know us? I came to LGF on the recommendation that it was centrist and that there were a number of intelligent people here. LGF has gotten pretty well known. I, for one, would like to see it’s rep upheld, not see it slide into mediocrity because some members can’t post without entertaining themselves at someone else’s expense. Frankly, I think it is a fairly serious problem on the internet and just because that is the way it is, it isn’t perhaps the best way to be.
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Big Steve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:53:00pm |
re: #112 SanFranciscoZionist
I don’t think anyone here is morally opposed to Muslim girls, though. Or to their getting married.
I thought actually it was quite enlightened to have that ad.
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:53:17pm |
re: #89 LudwigVanQuixote
Let me rephrase the question.
Suppose you were a synagogue website? Would you take money from a neo-nazi group?
Suppose you were the NAACP or another black group, would you take money from the teabags?
Times are tough, but you really do not need blood money on your hands.
It’s a bad analogy, Ludwig. However mis-informed and silly the denialists are, they are not Nazis or the KKK. This site prohibits racist hate speech, it does not prohibit denialist advocacy or even creationist claptrap. Anyone posting such nonsense will get hammered, of course, but they won’t be banned for their positions alone.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:53:23pm |
re: #75 avanti
The DOJ page is now socialist. /
Here’s the Commie quote in question on the DOJ web site:
“The common law is the will of mankind issuing from the life of the people.”Pretty outrageous to say laws imitate from the will of man I guess. (From the link)
“So much for the “Laws of Nature and Nature’s God,” the law that animated the Founders. So much our ”unalienable rights” coming from our Creator. Now they issue not from the hand of God but from the “will of mankind.”
BTW, Hot Air is covering it too.
Today’s outrageous outrage. What a load of shit.
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garhighway Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:53:44pm |
re: #112 SanFranciscoZionist
I don’t think anyone here is morally opposed to Muslim girls, though. Or to their getting married.
Just to their going to church in Manhattan.
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lawhawk Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:54:44pm |
re: #80 Charles
You’ve got to do what’s most comfortable for you. If you’re okay with taking the money and then putting up with what people might say is hypocrisy in taking that money, then fine but at least you’ve found a revenue source to continue funding LGF operations. If you aren’t and choose not to take the ads, then you’re in the same position economically that you’re in now.
Just because the opportunity has presented itself doesn’t mean it’s the right or the best one to take. And who knows that by turning down this opportunity doesn’t open up other ones precisely because of the position you take.
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:55:23pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:55:26pm |
re: #118 Big Steve
I thought actually it was quite enlightened to have that ad.
I don’t think we picked each other, it’s just the software picking up on the number of times the site says ‘Muslim’.
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:55:38pm |
re: #121 garhighway
Just to their going to church in Manhattan.
It’s not even a Mosque, really. It’s a freaking prayer space.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:56:30pm |
re: #119 Shiplord Kirel
It’s a bad analogy, Ludwig. However mis-informed and silly the denialists are, they are not Nazis or the KKK. This site prohibits racist hate speech, it does not prohibit denialist advocacy or even creationist claptrap. Anyone posting such nonsense will get hammered, of course, but they won’t be banned for their positions alone.
Nonsense. The denialists, if they have their way, and this is not some misinformed rube, but rather a paid propaganda agency - will end up killing far more people than the nazis ever did.
The play on their part is to be able to say that even CJ can not be that much of a supporter of AGW science since they advertise here.
It would be morally wrong to take their blood money.
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webevintage Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:56:35pm |
New study on the Teaparty movement.
democracycorps.com
I have not read though it yet and it does come from Democracy Corps which I’m sure some will consider bias.
Analysis:
democracycorps.com
Graphs:
democracycorps.com
saw this on Balloon Juice
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:57:09pm |
Meanwhile, I have been discouraged from further attempts to make contact with my mother’s family through Facebook. No one recognizes my married name, and I just got a brisk note from my 92-year-old great-aunt explaining that she hates Facebook, but will be glad to tell me anything I need to know through e-mail.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:57:45pm |
Zionist Mall has just added a “New Baby Gifts” selection to it “Kids Store”
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Big Steve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:57:55pm |
re: #117 Macha
I got called a whale dick (baculum) the first time I posted here.
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avanti Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:58:02pm |
Just in, the oil seepage from the sea floor a mile or so away is natural according to a just released statement from BP.
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Macha Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:58:15pm |
re: #47 HoosierHoops
Sorry about the way your newbe Husband was treated here…
encourage him to return…
Thanks Hoops. I’ll do what I can.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:58:22pm |
re: #117 Macha
I wasn’t here. But, I would expect that the nic “JCrow” (Jim Crow is an assumption, but not a huge leap) would get a much different response than Crow T. Robot or somesuch.
He should come back and visit. But folks who don’t know him may ask about the name. All he has to do is give a quickie explanation, I don’t think he’ll catch too much flack.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:58:37pm |
re: #122 lawhawk
You’ve got to do what’s most comfortable for you. If you’re okay with taking the money and then putting up with what people might say is hypocrisy in taking that money, then fine but at least you’ve found a revenue source to continue funding LGF operations. If you aren’t and choose not to take the ads, then you’re in the same position economically that you’re in now.
Just because the opportunity has presented itself doesn’t mean it’s the right or the best one to take. And who knows that by turning down this opportunity doesn’t open up other ones precisely because of the position you take.
That is well said. From a spiritual standpoint, I believe very much that G-d gives us tests like this to see if our money is where our mouth is - and He never makes these ones easy. I also believe that there are rewards for passing the test.
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:59:05pm |
re: #131 avanti
Just in, the oil seepage from the sea floor a mile or so away is natural according to a just released statement from BP.
Great, except for the fact I dont trust BP.
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:59:08pm |
re: #126 LudwigVanQuixote
Nonsense. The denialists, if they have their way, and this is not some misinformed rube, but rather a paid propaganda agency - will end up killing far more people than the nazis ever did.
The play on their part is to be able to say that even CJ can not be that much of a supporter of AGW science since they advertise here.
It would be morally wrong to take their blood money.
I really REALLY want to know who is trying to buy this ad. Then I want to trace it back to the funding source.
The people who need to be publicly shamed aren’t just the denialists who openly spew their misinformation. It’s the people who are spending money pushing the message. You can bet that they are the same people making piles of money off the status quo. I want them named, shamed, and ridiculed.
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CuriousLurker Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:59:21pm |
re: #80 Charles
I’ve got a choice to make — I just got approached by an advertiser who wants to place ads on LGF from the “American Energy Alliance,” a well-known global warming denial group. This kind of issue is never easy to decide — is it better to take their money and use it to continue promoting the truth about global warming, or turn down the ads to prevent them from using LGF to promote deceptions?
If they don’t advertise at LGF, they’ll just go elsewhere, and there are plenty of websites that won’t have a problem.
Maybe I should ask the magic 8-ball.
What would your mom advise? Do that.
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avanti Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:59:25pm |
re: #130 Big Steve
I got called a whale dick (baculum) the first time I posted here.
I can beat that. It seems there is a “Avanti” condom brand, so I was called a used condom.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:59:32pm |
re: #128 SanFranciscoZionist
Wait?! She has a Facebook page, tho?
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SteveMcGazi Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:00:14pm |
re: #80 Charles
Part of the denailists’ campaign depends upon the appearance of integrity. The agency probably doesn’t expect to make any headway with its message from LGF readers, but it will probaby use the LGF name to present itself to the broader media world as an example of its “commitment to (something - see)”. Like I said before, I don’t know how much money is at stake, but accepting may cost you more than dollars and cents. Good luck with your decision.
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:00:33pm |
re: #133 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I wasn’t here. But, I would expect that the nic “JCrow” (Jim Crow is an assumption, but not a huge leap) would get a much different response than Crow T. Robot or somesuch.
He should come back and visit. But folks who don’t know him may ask about the name. All he has to do is give a quickie explanation, I don’t think he’ll catch too much flack.
Trace Beaulieu Crow or Bill Corbett Crow? Lets be specific here.
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Macha Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:00:36pm |
re: #48 LudwigVanQuixote
Macha, the morning crowd is a little different than the late night crowd.
Yeah, LVQ, I know. It is the forum’s loss, believe me. But, sigh, ya do what you can.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:00:40pm |
re: #129 Alouette
Zionist Mall has just added a “New Baby Gifts” selection to it “Kids Store”
Would you weigh in on the moral quandary here? Is it permissible to take money from ill-gotten gains? Are you allowed to accept stolen goods or those taken from a murder victim’s corpse or the profits therefrom for example?
And let’s not kid ourselves about the people who are making the offer.
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Radicchio ad Absurdum Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:00:51pm |
re: #131 avanti
Just in, the oil seepage from the sea floor a mile or so away is natural according to a just released statement from BP.
I’d ingest large quantities of salt with that one.
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Big Steve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:01:00pm |
re: #131 avanti
Just in, the oil seepage from the sea floor a mile or so away is natural according to a just released statement from BP.
asphaltene content and several other markers from the so called third leak are considerably different from the MC252 well rupture. And by the way that seepage zone is more like 7 miles away and has been known about for weeks.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:01:11pm |
re: #123 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Nice selection.
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:01:31pm |
re: #139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wait?! She has a Facebook page, tho?
If you have someone’s email, you can invite them to join you on face book.
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avanti Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:01:59pm |
re: #145 Big Steve
asphaltene content and several other markers from the so called third leak are considerably different from the MC252 well rupture. And by the way that seepage zone is more like 7 miles away and has been known about for weeks.
Wow, the shit I learn posting here, thanks.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:02:22pm |
re: #143 LudwigVanQuixote
Would you weigh in on the moral quandary here? Is it permissible to take money from ill-gotten gains? Are you allowed to accept stolen goods or those taken from a murder victim’s corpse or the profits therefrom for example?
And let’s not kid ourselves about the people who are making the offer.
It’s it against the G-d’s law to commit a crime to save a good rabbi’s life?
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:02:23pm |
re: #80 Charles
I’ve got a choice to make — I just got approached by an advertiser who wants to place ads on LGF from the “American Energy Alliance,” a well-known global warming denial group. This kind of issue is never easy to decide — is it better to take their money and use it to continue promoting the truth about global warming, or turn down the ads to prevent them from using LGF to promote deceptions?
If they don’t advertise at LGF, they’ll just go elsewhere, and there are plenty of websites that won’t have a problem.
Maybe I should ask the magic 8-ball.
I’d say don’t do it, unless you have some way to put a disclaimer on every ad. It could negate some of your hard work.
I would not accept ads from “J Street” or the “New Israel Fund” at my blog or history archive.
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lawhawk Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:02:38pm |
re: #125 Fozzie Bear
It will be a mosque. It will also be a community center.
But the real problem with the opposition is that these opponents are falling into the trap of lumping all Muslims in with the fanatics/jihadis. It’s why the Bush (and now Obama) Administration try to keep the distinction of avoiding a clash of civilizations - it’s a war on terrorism (even though it is on jihadists attempting to establish an Islamist regime in various parts of the world forcing the submission of non-like thinking people regardless of whether they’re Muslim, Jewish, Christian, etc. )
Opponents to the Cordoba House proposal are lumping the backers of the project in with the jihadis - which will drive off those who want tolerance and mutual respect - playing right into the hands of the jihadis who would use it as proof of the righteousness of their cause.
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webevintage Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:02:48pm |
Breitbart Has PROOF the NAACP Is Racist
Andrew Breitbart is here once again to save the day, this time to show us that the NAACP is racist, NOT Teabaggers. “The NAACP and the Congressional Black Caucus do not want racial harmony. They want political victory, and the race card is their Strativarius,” he writes, hilariously. The NAACP wants to take out their main political opponents, the Teabaggers, by playing classical music on rare, expensive violins. But SORRY BLACK PEOPLE, Breitbart has stopped the NAACP once and for all, as he has his hands on the AMAZING racism video that will destroy their association for the advancement of colored people.
Read more at Wonkette: wonkette.com
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:02:58pm |
re: #143 LudwigVanQuixote
Would you weigh in on the moral quandary here? Is it permissible to take money from ill-gotten gains? Are you allowed to accept stolen goods or those taken from a murder victim’s corpse or the profits therefrom for example?
And let’s not kid ourselves about the people who are making the offer.
I just said I don’t think Charles should run these ads.
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:03:09pm |
re: #146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Nice selection.
I was considering the similar scene from Orgazmo, where the Mormom prays to Jesus to guide him on whether he should take the lead in a porno movie, but couldn’t find the clip.
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Macha Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:03:11pm |
re: #133 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I wasn’t here. But, I would expect that the nic “JCrow” (Jim Crow is an assumption, but not a huge leap) would get a much different response than Crow T. Robot or somesuch.
He should come back and visit. But folks who don’t know him may ask about the name. All he has to do is give a quickie explanation, I don’t think he’ll catch too much flack.
They did start out asking about the name. He was helping me with the morning chores, and before he could answer them, the heckling started. Then when he did try to explain, he accidentally did it under my name as we were both logged in. It was the snarkiness beginning before he could even explain that disgusted him.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:03:52pm |
re: #139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wait?! She has a Facebook page, tho?
Well, yes. She’s probably got it rigged so messages go to her e-mail, and is just ignoring the rest.
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McSpiff Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:04:14pm |
re: #117 Macha
Thank you Charles. I think that is true to a degree. I know for a fact that JCrow anticipated a certain level of needing a thick skin. What makes me annoyed is the rapidity with which some members regress to very adolescent behavior without cause. It isn’t just in this instance. I’ve seen other people ridiculed and run off from almost the get go. Joking on a forum is one thing, and so is disagreement. But how in the world can we have meaningful exchanges that others will take seriously if we behave like a bunch of frat boys and girls with new members who are getting to know us? I came to LGF on the recommendation that it was centrist and that there were a number of intelligent people here. LGF has gotten pretty well known. I, for one, would like to see it’s rep upheld, not see it slide into mediocrity because some members can’t post without entertaining themselves at someone else’s expense. Frankly, I think it is a fairly serious problem on the internet and just because that is the way it is, it isn’t perhaps the best way to be.
My discussion this morning with user “JCrow” quoted for the record:
re: #337 McSpiff
Welcome newbie :-D, you’ve been quiet so far!
Mind I ask what the story behind your username is?
re: #341 McSpiff
To sattv4u2:
Hey I like knowing whats behind the name. Pretty sure I asked you the same thing. Heard all about your work if I do recall correctly.
re: #344 McSpiff
To sattv4u2 again:
I generally try to give the benefit of the doubt.
And 30 odd posts later, with a slight amount of snark:
re: #372 McSpiff
Aww did JCrow run off before explaining his shiny new nic?
When did JCrow finally reply?
re: #451 Macha
“Aww did JCrow run off before explaining his shiny new nic?”
re: 372
Well, I am one of those Earth Spirituality sorts and I have a thing for crows. The name would just be Crow but I think it was in use, so it became JCrow. No relation to Jim Crow, Old Crow, Black Crow or any other such Crow. Just the regular crow hopping around and looking for entertainment.
About 70 odd posts later. I was long gone. My apologies for not seeing his explanation. Now what post made me even notice his user name in the first place?
Aww did re: #316 JCrow
I think the NAACP is trying to pin a racist label on the Tea Party groups because of the correlation between the overall membership and whatever proportion of those members who fit the description of being racist. That is a hard argument to press as the Tea Party supporters can point to the absence of racist ideology in the positions of the various groups. Despite this, at least in my opinion the Tea Party groups “look like a (racist) duck, walk like a duck and talk like a duck”.
A post where a new user, with the username “JCrow” opens up with “I think the NAACP is trying to pin a racist label of the tea party…” and he then proceeds to explain why Tea Parties aren’t racist, until his last line, where he kind of goes back and says yes, maybe they are racist.
Sorry for ganging up on the new guy I guess, but I see nothing wrong my behavior.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:04:19pm |
re: #117 Macha
He barely got touched, Macha. Seriously. Satt was his usual crotchety self, McSpiff was interested in the jcrow name.
On my first day here I got bewilderingly accused of being a Derrida-lover and an enemy of Israel.
Obviously, anyone named jcrow is going to have to explain why they’re named jcrow. Especially when the topic is race.
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:05:19pm |
re: #138 avanti
I can beat that. It seems there is a “Avanti” condom brand, so I was called a used condom.
I keep waiting for someone to call me “ursenine”, but sadly, nobody has yet made the joke. I’m disappointed in all of you.
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albusteve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:05:34pm |
re: #152 lawhawk
It will be a mosque. It will also be a community center.
But the real problem with the opposition is that these opponents are falling into the trap of lumping all Muslims in with the fanatics/jihadis. It’s why the Bush (and now Obama) Administration try to keep the distinction of avoiding a clash of civilizations - it’s a war on terrorism (even though it is on jihadists attempting to establish an Islamist regime in various parts of the world forcing the submission of non-like thinking people regardless of whether they’re Muslim, Jewish, Christian, etc. )
Opponents to the Cordoba House proposal are lumping the backers of the project in with the jihadis - which will drive off those who want tolerance and mutual respect - playing right into the hands of the jihadis who would use it as proof of the righteousness of their cause.
the mosque must be built…it’s the law, regardless if the potato heads cannot see the results of their misguided intentions…
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McSpiff Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:06:31pm |
re: #158 McSpiff
Whoops, my quoting levels got messed, this should not have been a quote:
A post where a new user, with the username “JCrow” opens up with “I think the NAACP is trying to pin a racist label of the tea party…” and he then proceeds to explain why Tea Parties aren’t racist, until his last line, where he kind of goes back and says yes, maybe they are racist.
Sorry for ganging up on the new guy I guess, but I see nothing wrong my behavior.
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webevintage Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:06:37pm |
re: #139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wait?! She has a Facebook page, tho?
My mother and sister have FB pages but never use them and then I get in trouble for not calling my mother and telling her that my almost an adult son had walking pneumonia.
My aunt told her because SHE reads her FB page.
it was no big deal, he was fine in week. She told me that is what the phone and email are for.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:06:38pm |
re: #159 Obdicut
He barely got touched, Macha. Seriously. Satt was his usual crotchety self, McSpiff was interested in the jcrow name.
On my first day here I got bewilderingly accused of being a Derrida-lover and an enemy of Israel.
Obviously, anyone named jcrow is going to have to explain why they’re named jcrow. Especially when the topic is race.
Satt was his usual crotchety self,
heheheh!!
yet, otoh
Obviously, anyone named jcrow is going to have to explain why they’re named jcrow
So he was asked, and didn’t supply a repsonse (till later, under anothre posters name)
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:06:43pm |
The GOP has no clue why it wants to retake congress:
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:07:10pm |
re: #160 Fozzie Bear
Your disappointment is a bit asinine.
/
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Big Steve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:07:24pm |
re: #158 McSpiff
I think you got a point……I think your responses were fair.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:07:40pm |
re: #153 webevintage
Breitbart Has PROOF the NAACP Is Racist
Read more at Wonkette: [Link: wonkette.com…]
Uh, Andrew, that’s StraDivarius.
People who want to seem real hip sometimes refer to one as a ‘Strad’.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:09:10pm |
re: #165 Obdicut
The GOP has no clue why it wants to retake congress:
[Link: www.theatlantic.com…]
hahah that’s confidence!
Over the course of several minutes, both Sessions and Cornyn were unable or unwilling to discuss what Republicans would specifically do on the deficit, etc., if they take back control of Congress. Sessions said that the GOP would: 1) ensure that the government live within its means, and 2) read the actual legislation. But when NBC’s David Gregory demanded specifics and details of painful choices Republicans were willing to make, Sessions didn’t offer a single one.
Why do we take this party seriously again?
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lawhawk Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:09:13pm |
re: #161 albusteve
The Cordoba House will get built if it gets all the necessary approvals. It has to get LPC approval (pending), and City Council approval (pending). Then, it needs the financing to come through and that’s anything but a sure thing.
If all those things happen, then the project will proceed, even with the ongoing opposition from the SIOE and their ilk. The law permits this project and if the group conforms to the law, there’s nothing to stop it from going ahead.
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Macha Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:09:31pm |
re: #80 Charles
I’ve got a choice to make — I just got approached by an advertiser who wants to place ads on LGF from the “American Energy Alliance,” a well-known global warming denial group. This kind of issue is never easy to decide — is it better to take their money and use it to continue promoting the truth about global warming, or turn down the ads to prevent them from using LGF to promote deceptions?
If they don’t advertise at LGF, they’ll just go elsewhere, and there are plenty of websites that won’t have a problem.
Maybe I should ask the magic 8-ball.
Sure they will go elsewhere, but it won’t be YOUR website that is assisting in deception if you turn them down. This is a bitch to decide, but given the stand you have taken with the global warming deniers, you run the risk of giving them some good ammunition in the form of pointing out your hypocrisy if you take their cash.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:09:46pm |
re: #162 McSpiff
Sorry for ganging up on the new guy I guess, but I see nothing wrong my behavior.
Nor with mine
The name CRIES out to be questioned
I’ll come back logged in as CManson or GWGacy. I PRAY that if I did I would be “ganged up on”
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:09:52pm |
re: #168 SanFranciscoZionist
AMATI always used to screw me up with crossword puzzles. Used to put STRAD in the five spaces.
STRAD is always, always, always wrong in crossword puzzles. It’s AMATI.
Back to the thread…
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avanti Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:10:33pm |
re: #153 webevintage
Breitbart Has PROOF the NAACP Is Racist
Read more at Wonkette: [Link: wonkette.com…]
I’d love to see the entire video since t was cut off just as she was explaining her reasons for handing the guy over to a white guy since he seemed to be more comfortable that way.
She admitted to not going 100% to help him because of his rudeness, just as most folks would do in that situation. It happened a lot in more store with a female stereo sales person, some shoppers would insist on a man. Sad really, because she was the best informed sales person I had.
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McSpiff Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:10:39pm |
re: #167 Big Steve
I think you got a point…I think your responses were fair.
Thank you. I’m a little offended at Macha’s characterization of the exchange, and the fact that many regular posters and Charles himself would assume the worst about me and sattv4u2, without even bothering to review the thread in question.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:10:39pm |
re: #170 lawhawk
Will Cordoba House have chairs of Corinthian leather?
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:10:44pm |
I read about the “submittal” of this group last week, or sometime and something like that. Honestly, what is a Caucus and what can the House Tea Party Caucus do, not do, why is this good, bad… why does the GOP get this caucus?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:11:19pm |
re: #136 Fozzie Bear
They are:
American Energy Alliance.
Look them over. These are paid fossil fuel shills. This is from their mission statement.
The American Energy Alliance (AEA) is the independent grassroots affiliate of the Institute for Energy Research (IER) . AEA’s mission is to enlist and empower energy consumers to encourage policymakers to support policies that lead to abundant, affordable and reliable energy for all Americans and to hold our leaders accountable for their actions – not their words – towards this important end….
….AEA will also help fulfill the mission of the Institute for Energy Research, which is to establish itself as the premier source of accurate, substantive and timely energy information for policymakers, the media and the public. By communicating IER’s decades of scholarly research to AEA grassroots activists, AEA will empower citizens with facts so that people who believe in freedom can reclaim the moral high ground in the national and state public policy debates on energy and environmental
policy.
So now who are Institute for Energy Research?
Here is from their blurb on Climate change: (Italics mine)
That human activity has increased the atmospheric concentration of CO2, a gas known to ‘force’ climate or increase temperatures while the Earth has warmed about 0.6 º Celsius over the last one hundred years is generally accepted. How the climate works and the relationship of different variables remains to be determined.
There is, however, a sense of urgency among many to take action in the form of policies to reduce CO2 emissions. Although the policies would be extremely expensive, consume resources that could be directed to immediate and profound problems, and have limited potential to affect climate, many contend that there is an urgent need to implement some sort of policy. Many potenital factors can contribute to and exacerbate the sense that policies are urgently needed.
Now these people want to see themselves as the “the premier source of accurate, substantive and timely energy information for policymakers, the media and the public.”
Here is their board of directors. It has not a single scientist on the list:
Jim Clarkson, President, Resource Supply Management
Steven F. Hayward, F. K. Weyerhaeuser Fellow, American Enterprise Institute
Preston Marshall, President, MarOpCo
Wayne Gable, President, Gable Consulting
Robert L. Testwuide III, CFP, Vice President, Wealth Management Advisor, Merrill Lynch
Richard Stroup, Ph.D., Senior Visiting Professor of Economics, North Carolina State University
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:11:24pm |
re: #173 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
AMATI always used to screw me up with crossword puzzles. Used to put STRAD in the five spaces.
STRAD is always, always, always wrong in crossword puzzles. It’s AMATI.
Back to the thread…
What’s the clue? “Famous stringed instrument family?”
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albusteve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:11:59pm |
re: #175 McSpiff
Thank you. I’m a little offended at Macha’s characterization of the exchange, and the fact that many regular posters and Charles himself would assume the worst about me and sattv4u2, without even bothering to review the thread in question.
it’s a small thing…move on imo
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webevintage Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:12:20pm |
re: #127 webevintage
New study on the Teaparty movement.
[Link: www.democracycorps.com…]
some of the quotes in the graph part are hi-larious.
On Obama:
It’s like he comes out of nowhere and he’s very articulate and everyone loves him and he’s the antichrist.
– College Man, Phoenix
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:12:38pm |
re: #175 McSpiff
Thank you. I’m a little offended at Macha’s characterization of the exchange, and the fact that many regular posters and Charles himself would assume the worst about me and sattv4u2, without even bothering to review the thread in question.
Oh chill, now we are doing a double-reverse victim flip. Never a wise move. Charles never assumed anything. He just said people have to have thicker skin.
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lawhawk Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:12:43pm |
re: #176 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sadly, no. And Khan Noonien Singh wont be there either.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:12:44pm |
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:12:50pm |
re: #149 Walter L. Newton
It’s it against the G-d’s law to commit a crime to save a good rabbi’s life?
Since saving lives takes precedent over all other laws, save three, the question does not apply. It also applies to any innocent person’s life so the “good rabbi” part was gratuitous and insulting. You know this already as well. Piss off Walter. I have no time for your games.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:13:24pm |
re: #179 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah… fancy violin, violin maker, etc…
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webevintage Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:14:02pm |
re: #174 avanti
She admitted to not going 100% to help him because of his rudeness, just as most folks would do in that situation.
Indeed.
Rudeness gets you nothing but average service…as it should be.
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:14:15pm |
re: #173 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
AMATI always used to screw me up with crossword puzzles. Used to put STRAD in the five spaces.
STRAD is always, always, always wrong in crossword puzzles. It’s AMATI.
Back to the thread…
Speaking of word puzzles, I pissed off the neighbors last week playing scrabble. I pulled my tiles and for my first word on the board, “HAUNTED”, bam, I win
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CarleeCork Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:14:32pm |
re: #13 Fozzie Bear
Tea Party “Race Summit” Coming To Philly.
This can only end well. //
Perhaps they will invite The New Black Panthers Party members?
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Nimed Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:15:21pm |
re: #80 Charles
I’ve got a choice to make — I just got approached by an advertiser who wants to place ads on LGF from the “American Energy Alliance,” a well-known global warming denial group. This kind of issue is never easy to decide — is it better to take their money and use it to continue promoting the truth about global warming, or turn down the ads to prevent them from using LGF to promote deceptions?
If they don’t advertise at LGF, they’ll just go elsewhere, and there are plenty of websites that won’t have a problem.
Maybe I should ask the magic 8-ball.
Charles, without knowing the particulars of the situation, not taking the money is better in the long run. Taking ad money in the issues one writes about, even for a short time, is the sort of thing that exposes people to accusations of bias essentially forever, no matter how baseless they are. Allegations that LGF is a denialist site, “sold out”, etc. may seem ludicrous now, but there’s always someone who will think of the ads when they feel LGF is not being sufficiently zealous.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:15:22pm |
re: #183 lawhawk
Did you get the joke tho? (I didn’t get yours, tho)
Ask Ricardo Montalban…
Well… I thought it was funny.
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Macha Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:15:47pm |
re: #159 Obdicut
He barely got touched, Macha. Seriously. Satt was his usual crotchety self, McSpiff was interested in the jcrow name.
On my first day here I got bewilderingly accused of being a Derrida-lover and an enemy of Israel.
Obviously, anyone named jcrow is going to have to explain why they’re named jcrow. Especially when the topic is race.
It wasn’t the interest in the JCrow name. As I explained, he was trying to figure out the process and helping me elsewhere at the same time, then accidentally posted under my name. The boys just couldn’t keep there shorts on long enough to get an answer. You are right, by LGF standards, he was barely touched. But it was enough to turn away a potentially good member. I just think we, as a group, ought to look at how often we shoot before we really see the target. Reminds me of opening day deer hunters who kill off half the cattle in the country.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:15:52pm |
re: #187 webevintage
Indeed.
Rudeness gets you nothing but average service…as it should be.
I would sometimes amp up the politeness and efficiency— to get them the fuck out of there. The longer they’re around, the longer I had to deal with their insanity and rudeness.
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albusteve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:16:02pm |
re: #185 LudwigVanQuixote
Since saving lives takes precedent over all other laws, save three, the question does not apply. It also applies to any innocent person’s life so the “good rabbi” part was gratuitous and insulting. You know this already as well. Piss off Walter. I have no time for your games.
and you call others crotchety?
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:16:02pm |
re: #185 LudwigVanQuixote
Since saving lives takes precedent over all other laws, save three, the question does not apply. It also applies to any innocent person’s life so the “good rabbi” part was gratuitous and insulting. You know this already as well. Piss off Walter. I have no time for your games.
I was trying to agree with you, sorry if my agreement was not presented in the exact same perfect angel-breathed shining ways you would have. You just blew your sparks to hell… Piss off Ludwig.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:16:41pm |
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webevintage Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:16:41pm |
re: #191 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Did you get the joke tho? (I didn’t get yours, tho)
Ask Ricardo Montalban…
Well… I thought it was funny.
Every time I read “Cordoba House” I hear Ricardo Montalban saying “rich Corinthian leather”…..
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:17:19pm |
Actually, here is something that may or may not help Charles. You know it is wrong to take their blood money or you would not have posted.
Now that may be a reason for you to take their blood money and destroy your good name when they put you on a list of bloggers who support them and you know that they will just like cherry picked scientists end up on lists. However, I will be forever disappointed in you if you fall for it, and I will not sympathize when they drag your name through the mud.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:17:37pm |
re: #192 Macha
It wasn’t the interest in the JCrow name. As I explained, he was trying to figure out the process and helping me elsewhere at the same time, then accidentally posted under my name. The boys just couldn’t keep there shorts on long enough to get an answer. You are right, by LGF standards, he was barely touched. But it was enough to turn away a potentially good member. I just think we, as a group, ought to look at how often we shoot before we really see the target. Reminds me of opening day deer hunters who kill off half the cattle in the country.
McSpiff didn’t ask a single thing that was rude of Jcrow, though. Even Satt didn’t really say much of anything.
What was the comment or comments that particularly hurt or annoyed him?
You’re being rather rude towards members right now— by your own standards, to me, you’re shooting before you look.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:18:16pm |
re: #159 Obdicut
re: #192 Macha
btw ,,,, here was me being “crotchety”
The name in and of itself sends a red flag. If you’re not cognizant of that as a fact, I’m sorry. I accept that it was picked as stated here [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…] but again, if I were to log is as CManson, it would and should raise eyebrows
littlegreenfootballs.com
#456 JCrow
re: 455
I am clearing out of LGF anyhow. So your perception of a red flag or not will not be significant.
Adios and good luck to you.
I would need ‘luck” if my screename was something in the order of “JWBooth” or “SHussien” but seeing it’s not ,, oh well!
{sigh}
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:18:19pm |
I think everybody needs to be a little more jumpy and sensitive. It can only make things better. //
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:18:59pm |
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wrenchwench Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:19:21pm |
re: #199 LudwigVanQuixote
I will not sympathize when they drag your name through the mud.
Come on, a little sympathy costs you nothing…
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McSpiff Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:19:37pm |
re: #192 Macha
It wasn’t the interest in the JCrow name. As I explained, he was trying to figure out the process and helping me elsewhere at the same time, then accidentally posted under my name. The boys just couldn’t keep there shorts on long enough to get an answer. You are right, by LGF standards, he was barely touched. But it was enough to turn away a potentially good member. I just think we, as a group, ought to look at how often we shoot before we really see the target. Reminds me of opening day deer hunters who kill off half the cattle in the country.
You’re right, I wasn’t willing to wait 100 posts before questioning wether new user “JCrow” who entered the discussion with
“I think the NAACP are trying to pin the label of racist on the Tea Parties…”
I completely stand by everything I said in that thread. If he was unwilling or unable to explain further, that’s no fault of mine.
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Linden Arden Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:20:10pm |
re: #199 LudwigVanQuixote
Actually, here is something that may or may not help Charles. You know it is wrong to take their blood money or you would not have posted.
“It is better to deprive your enemy of resource than it is to win a battle” - Lao-Tzu *
* = I don’t exactly remember Lao-Tzu saying that - but he should have.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:20:47pm |
re: #202 Fozzie Bear
I think everybody needs to be a little more jumpy and sensitive. It can only make things better. //
Effen You Bear!
*wink*
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:20:48pm |
re: #177 Walter L. Newton
I read about the “submittal” of this group last week, or sometime and something like that. Honestly, what is a Caucus and what can the House Tea Party Caucus do, not do, why is this good, bad… why does the GOP get this caucus?
A caucus is the Congressional equivalent of an after-school club. A group of Congresspeople who want to get together in a little committee or meeting may do so, if their proposal to be a caucus is approved.
There is a Congressional Bourbon Caucus, a 4-H Caucus, a Hungarian-American Caucus, the Blue Dogs have one, Interstate 69 has one. There are an awful lot of them.
The Tea Party Caucus doesn’t get any money set aside for it, but they can use Congressional resources (meeting spaces, money allocated for them to use in policy planning) etc., to do Caucus-y things. They can hold meetings, come up with plans, collaborate on how to respond to legislation, etc.
I don’t think it’s particularly good or bad, except that if the Tea Party Caucus actually gathers much influence, it’s a pretty good sign that they’re gaining traction in Republican Congressional circles, which I would classify as not so good.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:20:53pm |
re: #192 Macha
It wasn’t the interest in the JCrow name. As I explained, he was trying to figure out the process and helping me elsewhere at the same time, then accidentally posted under my name. The boys just couldn’t keep there shorts on long enough to get an answer. You are right, by LGF standards, he was barely touched. But it was enough to turn away a potentially good member. I just think we, as a group, ought to look at how often we shoot before we really see the target. Reminds me of opening day deer hunters who kill off half the cattle in the country.
When did that happen… deer hunters killing cattle?
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:21:11pm |
re: #131 avanti
Just in, the oil seepage from the sea floor a mile or so away is natural according to a just released statement from BP.
A statement from BP?
How would they know?
I do not trust anything BP says or does.
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Irenicum Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:21:32pm |
I just posted this to the LGF pages. But I thought it would be appropriate to share it here too. Exxon gets back to Climate Denial.
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webevintage Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:21:34pm |
re: #193 Obdicut
I would sometimes amp up the politeness and efficiency— to get them the fuck out of there. The longer they’re around, the longer I had to deal with their insanity and rudeness.
I know, it is what most of us do.
BUT rude people, and the rest of us, would be better off in the long run if folks just said outright “sorry, you are a rude asshole and I’m not going to take care of you. Please find another place to do business” and if everyone did that then rude assholes would get a clue.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:22:13pm |
re: #209 SanFranciscoZionist
A caucus is the Congressional equivalent of an after-school club. A group of Congresspeople who want to get together in a little committee or meeting may do so, if their proposal to be a caucus is approved.
There is a Congressional Bourbon Caucus, a 4-H Caucus, a Hungarian-American Caucus, the Blue Dogs have one, Interstate 69 has one. There are an awful lot of them.
The Tea Party Caucus doesn’t get any money set aside for it, but they can use Congressional resources (meeting spaces, money allocated for them to use in policy planning) etc., to do Caucus-y things. They can hold meetings, come up with plans, collaborate on how to respond to legislation, etc.
I don’t think it’s particularly good or bad, except that if the Tea Party Caucus actually gathers much influence, it’s a pretty good sign that they’re gaining traction in Republican Congressional circles, which I would classify as not so good.
Thank you for that.
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:22:17pm |
re: #210 Walter L. Newton
When did that happen… deer hunters killing cattle?
Happens ALL THE TIME. You might think to yourself… “but a deer looks NOTHING like a cow”. I would tend to agree. And yet, somehow, every hunting season, it happens.
I know, I don’t get it either.
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Linden Arden Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:22:54pm |
re: #199 LudwigVanQuixote
Now that may be a reason for you to take their blood money and destroy your good name when they put you on a list of bloggers who support them and you know that they will just like cherry picked scientists end up on lists. However, I will be forever disappointed in you if you fall for it, and I will not sympathize when they drag your name through the mud.
OTOH - loyalty is a self-sustaining reward for a leader.
(I am not helping - this is truly a conundrum)
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Nimed Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:23:17pm |
re: #159 Obdicut
On my first day here I got bewilderingly accused of being a Derrida-lover and an enemy of Israel.
LOL Derrida-lover is an hilarious accusation! Kudos to your indicters.
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webevintage Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:23:17pm |
re: #215 Fozzie Bear
Happens ALL THE TIME. You might think to yourself… “but a deer looks NOTHING like a cow”. I would tend to agree. And yet, somehow, every hunting season, it happens.
I know, I don’t get it either.
It might have something to do with the amount of beer drunk in the hunting camp the night before.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:24:13pm |
re: #192 Macha
Reminds me of opening day deer hunters who kill off half the cattle in the country.
ummm,,, deer and cattle don’t usually occupy the same real estate
Deer tend to be found in thick woods
Cattle, not so much!
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SteveMcGazi Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:24:25pm |
Well, I don’t grind like I used to, but the ad discussion got my juices running a little. (I’ll clean it up later) anyway, as much as I would have suggested Charles to question the motives of the solicitation, perhaps it’s worth considering the motives (even unconcious ones) of Charles’ query. Maybe running LGF is more of a burden that he would like to admit. I bet it was a lot easier ten years ago. I will have to hit the tip jar tonight, but keep in mind what we may easily take for granted here.
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darthstar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:24:57pm |
Check out the top face at Teapartyexpress.org
teapartyexpress.org
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:25:03pm |
re: #215 Fozzie Bear
Happens ALL THE TIME. You might think to yourself… “but a deer looks NOTHING like a cow”. I would tend to agree. And yet, somehow, every hunting season, it happens.
I know, I don’t get it either.
I always will remember,
‘twas a year ago November,
I went out to hunt some deer
On a mornin’ bright and clear.
I went and shot the maximum the game laws would allow,
Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a cow.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:25:18pm |
re: #204 wrenchwench
Come on, a little sympathy costs you nothing…
No actually.
These people are no different than the tobacco institute that denied for years the effects of cigarette smoking by obscuring the evidence for decades. In fact these are many of the same people. These are not just misinformed fools parroting what they heard on Fox or some other media outlet. These are the people who feed those media outlets with lies
The more I think about this, the more I am coming to the conclusion that the only thing for me to do if Charles accepts their money is to quit LGF.
I am not kidding. I respect Charles greatly. I understand how he could be under great pressure and temptation here. I will not think he is a bad person for succumbing to temptation. However, I will quit if I see those ads here.
I do not over rate my value. I do not want to leave LGF. I love most of the people here and I count Charles as a friend.
However, I am not kidding.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:25:21pm |
re: #216 Linden Arden
OTOH - loyalty is a self-sustaining reward for a leader.
(I am not helping - this is truly a conundrum)
I don’t think there is any conundrum… you don’t support their cause, you don’t take their money. Especially if you have made so much of your positions on the subject public, and proud of it. I really don’t even understand why it’s a question to start with.
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Interesting Times Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:25:36pm |
re: #215 Fozzie Bear
Happens ALL THE TIME. You might think to yourself… “but a deer looks NOTHING like a cow”. I would tend to agree. And yet, somehow, every hunting season, it happens.
I know, I don’t get it either.
Maybe because they have this guy’s shooting skills?
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albusteve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:25:45pm |
re: #211 reine.de.tout
A statement from BP?
How would they know?
I do not trust anything BP says or does.
between BP and the MMS, 11 people are dead….I’m not gonna forget that part, ducking regulations that leads to injury or death should be criminal and I wish that heads will roll, lots of them…I could care less about the viability of BP….soak them for every red cent they have then sweep away the ashes
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McSpiff Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:25:53pm |
re: #219 sattv4u2
Reminds me of opening day deer hunters who kill off half the cattle in the country.
ummm,,, deer and cattle don’t usually occupy the same real estate
Deer tend to be found in thick woods
Cattle, not so much!
Apparently a bit of common sense is lacking in that household.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:26:55pm |
re: #227 McSpiff
Apparently a bit of common sense is lacking in that household.
Not to mention a toddlers animal picture book
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:27:10pm |
re: #227 McSpiff
Cattle being shot by hunters is a very real phenomenon. Cattle and deer are often on the same ground, both on the large ranges in the west and southwest, and even up in New England.
Let’s not make this fight more acerbic than it has to be.
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albusteve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:27:37pm |
re: #215 Fozzie Bear
Happens ALL THE TIME. You might think to yourself… “but a deer looks NOTHING like a cow”. I would tend to agree. And yet, somehow, every hunting season, it happens.
I know, I don’t get it either.
in 30+ years of deer hunting, I never heard of a cow getting shot…but of course there’s Wisconsin
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:28:17pm |
re: #175 McSpiff
Thank you. I’m a little offended at Macha’s characterization of the exchange, and the fact that many regular posters and Charles himself would assume the worst about me and sattv4u2, without even bothering to review the thread in question.
I saw the thread, and thought you were both being fair.
There are some nics that raise red flags and are questioned. IIRC, Guanxi88 was questioned at length about the “88” at the end of his nic - he explained it - all was well.
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:28:39pm |
re: #230 albusteve
in 30+ years of deer hunting, I never heard of a cow getting shot…but of course there’s Wisconsin
Come to PA some time. Central PA especially. The stupid is so strong there, it is palpably frightening.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:28:40pm |
re: #229 Obdicut
Cattle being shot by hunters is a very real phenomenon. Cattle and deer are often on the same ground, both on the large ranges in the west and southwest, and even up in New England.
Let’s not make this fight more acerbic than it has to be.
No,, they actually are not
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darthstar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:28:41pm |
re: #206 McSpiff
I completely stand by everything I said in that thread. If he was unwilling or unable to explain further, that’s no fault of mine.
It definitely gets my vote for “worst choice of a nic when diving into racial issues of the year” award.
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Nimed Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:29:05pm |
re: #209 SanFranciscoZionist
:D Wow, nice explanation. You’re a natural, kiddo.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:29:12pm |
re: #215 Fozzie Bear
The best venison you ever ate!
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McSpiff Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:29:33pm |
re: #229 Obdicut
Cattle being shot by hunters is a very real phenomenon. Cattle and deer are often on the same ground, both on the large ranges in the west and southwest, and even up in New England.
Let’s not make this fight more acerbic than it has to be.
I can’t speak for anywhere else, but in my deck of the woods you’d lose your hunting license for that. I can’t even say its not common, I’ve literally never heard of it happening. That’s why I find it funny.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:29:33pm |
re: #223 LudwigVanQuixote
No actually.
These people are no different than the tobacco institute that denied for years the effects of cigarette smoking by obscuring the evidence for decades. In fact these are many of the same people. These are not just misinformed fools parroting what they heard on Fox or some other media outlet. These are the people who feed those media outlets with lies
The more I think about this, the more I am coming to the conclusion that the only thing for me to do if Charles accepts their money is to quit LGF.
I am not kidding. I respect Charles greatly. I understand how he could be under great pressure and temptation here. I will not think he is a bad person for succumbing to temptation. However, I will quit if I see those ads here.
I do not over rate my value. I do not want to leave LGF. I love most of the people here and I count Charles as a friend. However, I am not kidding.
Come on Ludwig, don’t change the odds after the game started.
But back to being serious.
I agree with your position, but your ability to state your positions on AGW would only be more needed than before if those ads appeared here. That would be cutting your nose to spite your face.
However, I am not kidding.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:29:34pm |
re: #231 reine.de.tout
I saw the thread, and thought you were both being fair.
There are some nics that raise red flags and are questioned. IIRC, Guanxi88 was questioned at length about the “88” at the end of his nic - he explained it - all was well.
t/y
(ummm, and what was the issue with the “88”!?!?)
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darthstar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:29:46pm |
re: #6 ralphieboy
I hope that Joe Biden gets up to announce that the GOP is not racist…
That would be funny.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:30:21pm |
re: #232 Fozzie Bear
Bitter clingers! Bitter clingers!
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:30:23pm |
re: #229 Obdicut
Cattle being shot by hunters is a very real phenomenon. Cattle and deer are often on the same ground, both on the large ranges in the west and southwest, and even up in New England.
Let’s not make this fight more acerbic than it has to be.
New England’s what I was thinking of. The countryside is a patchwork of pasture and second/third-growth woods, and it’s not uncommon to see deer munching alongside cows, or cows nosing into the edge of the woods to get to some nicer grass.
My own personal theory is that if you can see the animal well enough to shoot it, you ought to be able to visually verify that it’s a deer before firing, but this is not universal.
Case in Vermont (?) years ago, a woman was shot in her own backyard because a hunter confused something she was wearing with the marks on a white-tailed deer’s rump.
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:30:32pm |
re: #233 sattv4u2
No,, they actually are not
See [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
Um, yes they are. Do you have deer where you are?
Because there are an assload of them here, and deer don’t stay in dense woods. They prefer areas that border between forest and fields, and have no problem grazing in the open.
Cows aren’t generally afraid of deer, and the reverse is true too. Sometimes, they mingle.
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darthstar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:30:48pm |
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:31:39pm |
re: #239 sattv4u2
t/y
(ummm, and what was the issue with the “88”!?!?)
H is the 8th letter of the alphabet; “88” is used as a “code” for HH, or heil hitler.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:31:48pm |
re: #245 reine.de.tout
H is the 8th letter of the alphabet; “88” is used as a “code” for HH, or heil hitler.
I think that’s it.
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McSpiff Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:31:58pm |
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:32:12pm |
re: #233 sattv4u2
That’s a really dumb way to make an argument.
Deer are not just found in thick woods. Deer are also found in thin woods, chaparral, swamps, and basically all over the damn place. The go onto plains in order to feed quite often. They like woods to sleep in, but that can be a brief spate of woods in a valley surrounded by dry hills, as it is in Northern California.
Deer will even travel along just little canyons or gullies for protection to get at the nice crops on the plains.
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albusteve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:32:27pm |
re: #233 sattv4u2
No,, they actually are not
See [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
deer are found where the food source is….they move around in the open all the time, but they prefer some close cover if possible…that could even be 3’ high bean crops
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Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:32:31pm |
re: #245 reine.de.tout
H is the 8th letter of the alphabet; “88” is used as a “code” for HH, or heil hitler.
First time I’ve ever heard of that one. O_O
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:32:56pm |
re: #242 SanFranciscoZionist
New England’s what I was thinking of. The countryside is a patchwork of pasture and second/third-growth woods, and it’s not uncommon to see deer munching alongside cows, or cows nosing into the edge of the woods to get to some nicer grass.
My own personal theory is that if you can see the animal well enough to shoot it, you ought to be able to visually verify that it’s a deer before firing, but this is not universal.
Case in Vermont (?) years ago, a woman was shot in her own backyard because a hunter confused something she was wearing with the marks on a white-tailed deer’s rump.
For this reason I have abandoned my hobby of wearing a brown coat with white earmuffs and hopping up and down in my yard during hunting season.
I miss it so.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:33:11pm |
re: #243 Fozzie Bear
Um, yes they are. Do you have deer where you are?
Because there are an assload of them here, and deer don’t stay in dense woods. They prefer areas that border between forest and fields, and have no problem grazing in the open.
Cows aren’t generally afraid of deer, and the reverse is true too. Sometimes, they mingle.
Yes we do. As a matter of fact I have deer living on my property. There are cows around also. They do NOT occupy the same type of terrain Deer, mostly woods (though they will venture out to eat flowers near houses)
Cattle do NOT prefer woodsy areas (less grass)
I live out in the country, over an hour east of Atlanta
I also lived in New England for 4 decades. Same there
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McSpiff Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:33:11pm |
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Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:33:35pm |
re: #252 Fozzie Bear
For this reason I have abandoned my hobby of wearing a brown coat with white earmuffs and hopping up and down in my yard during hunting season.
I miss it so.
You’re not yelling WAKKA WAKKA WAKKA loud enough when you do it…
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:33:40pm |
re: #237 McSpiff
I can’t speak for anywhere else, but in my deck of the woods you’d lose your hunting license for that. I can’t even say its not common, I’ve literally never heard of it happening. That’s why I find it funny.
Well, you didn’t know— but that’s no reason to mock Macha further. It does indeed happen, especially in the dry hills in California where the ‘woods’ that the deer sleep in are tiny stands of twenty trees down in the gullies.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:33:42pm |
re: #243 Fozzie Bear
Um, yes they are. Do you have deer where you are?
Because there are an assload of them here, and deer don’t stay in dense woods. They prefer areas that border between forest and fields, and have no problem grazing in the open.
Cows aren’t generally afraid of deer, and the reverse is true too. Sometimes, they mingle.
My only problem was with the statement “Reminds me of opening day deer hunters who kill off half the cattle in the country.” not that you can see cows and deer grazing near by each other. Hell, there are so many deer in our neighborhood, my Garfield like cat can be seen lounging around while deer are grazing 20 feet away.
But not half the cattle in the country is getting killed on opening day of deer season. (My cat got grazed once).
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:34:04pm |
re: #245 reine.de.tout
H is the 8th letter of the alphabet; “88” is used as a “code” for HH, or heil hitler.
t/y again
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Nimed Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:34:44pm |
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:35:26pm |
re: #258 sattv4u2
t/y again
Oh, hell, Satt -
Aren’t I worth going ahead and just spelling out that t/y?
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windsagio Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:35:30pm |
re: #251 oaktree
I think you have to be a skinhead or Jewish to have heard of that, I hadn’t either >>
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:35:48pm |
re: #253 sattv4u2
Yes we do. As a matter of fact I have deer living on my property. There are cows around also. They do NOT occupy the same type of terrain Deer, mostly woods (though they will venture out to eat flowers near houses)
Cattle do NOT prefer woodsy areas (less grass)I live out in the country, over an hour east of Atlanta
I also lived in New England for 4 decades. Same there
Well, I respectfully suggest you don’t have a good bead on deer behavior if you are going to suggest that deer and cows don’t like the same type of environment.
It is my experience that deer just don’t give a shit. At least the white-tail variety. They’ll raid your bird feeder if you mount it low enough. They will steal hay from cows, sleep in barns if the door is left open, etc.
They really aren’t all that picky about where they hang out.
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:35:59pm |
re: #35 ralphieboy
A key gripe (as featured in a book advertised on Newsmax) is that “liberals” will call anyone a racist who opposes Obama’s politics.
Which is not the case at all, it is entirely possible to be against Obama and not be a racist.
But it is difficult not to come across as racist if one has no reasonable, sound arguments against Obama other than knee-jerk, emotional rants.
I don’t tend to talk about the President very much unless I’m around the friends who I know I can trust to be reasonable when I criticize policy. Obama is king around here (Oakland, CA) so when I do talk about the President in public, I choose my words very carefully, and I keep the criticism on a low hum.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:36:01pm |
re: #235 Nimed
:D Wow, nice explanation. You’re a natural, kiddo.
Thanks! There is also a Shellfish Caucus, and an Unexploded Ordinance Caucus.
I think the only reason they ask them to submit their descriptions to the House for approval is just to make sure no one sneaks in the “Kick a Ginger” Caucus, or the “KKK” Caucus.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:36:22pm |
re: #260 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What? For some reason the DSL is really slow today, I won’t even try videos… anyway, we get all kinds of wildlife around out house, in our house, alive, pieces that were alive that the dogs drag in, it’s a zoo around here in the summer.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:36:32pm |
re: #262 windsagio
I think you have to be a skinhead or Jewish to have heard of that, I hadn’t either >>
Oh, really?
Which do you think I am?
Let’s see - we know I’m not Jewish. What does that leave?
Did you intend to insult me, or were you just not thinking?
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McSpiff Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:36:47pm |
re: #256 Obdicut
Sorry, I just found her whole “wahhhhh they chased off my hubby post! Mean frat boys with their paddles!” a little much. Especially when the facts of that thread were very, very different. So I’m not particularly interested in being overly civil with someone who’s shown no interest in doing the same.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:36:48pm |
re: #261 reine.de.tout
Oh, hell, Satt -
Aren’t I worth going ahead and just spelling out that t/y?
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
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greygandalf Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:36:53pm |
I was unaware cows wandered the woods. Learn something new everyday.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:37:20pm |
re: #245 reine.de.tout
H is the 8th letter of the alphabet; “88” is used as a “code” for HH, or heil hitler.
Everybody knows that HH stands for HoosierHoops
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:37:27pm |
re: #257 Walter L. Newton
My only problem was with the statement “Reminds me of opening day deer hunters who kill off half the cattle in the country.” not that you can see cows and deer grazing near by each other. Hell, there are so many deer in our neighborhood, my Garfield like cat can be seen lounging around while deer are grazing 20 feet away.
But not half the cattle in the country is getting killed on opening day of deer season. (My cat got grazed once).
Yeah ok definitely true there. It’s not like it’s so common that it’s a regular tax write-off for cattle farmers. “Oh crap Martha, there goes another one.”
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:37:34pm |
re: #269 sattv4u2
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
There ya go!
Much better!
Thank you!
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:37:42pm |
re: #267 reine.de.tout
No, he was saying it’s specialized knowledge most people wouldn’t ever get a chance to learn, and he’s right.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:37:42pm |
re: #266 Walter L. Newton
Cool little video of a baby deer coming in through a doggie door.
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darthstar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:37:59pm |
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windsagio Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:38:01pm |
re: #263 Fozzie Bear
I have no idea about why we’re talking about deer, but on our island property they freaking love to come out and feed/etc in the open field by the cabin, and at our lake they seem just as happy in hte open scrub as they do in denser areas.
On the island they’re a bit of a problem right now, no predators left, and not enough places where they can be hunted, so we’re getting weird mutants and overpopulation.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:38:16pm |
re: #262 windsagio
I think you have to be a skinhead or Jewish to have heard of that, I hadn’t either >>
I’ve heard of it! I think I was reading some big internet article about neo-nazis
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:38:36pm |
re: #262 windsagio
Hey… WIndy… this was written this morning with you (and some others) in mind, but you weren’t around… and anyone else that may enjoy…
The family and I spent the day the the Colorado Renaissance Festival in Larkspar, one of the three largest renaissance festivals in the country, both for size and age. I had never been to a renaissance festival before, even though I was good friends with a number of the influential folks and entertainers who developed the festival in Texas over 30 years ago.
I was appalled. This is an event built around misogyny, vulgar behavior, injurious activities, open carry of weapons, death, gluttony, avarice, using beasts of burdens for entertainment and public displays of lewdness and drunkenness. Not to mention tough turkey talons.
In a world were we are trying hard to introduce acceptance, diversity and peaceful behavior, is there really a place for this kind of function?
I saw people celebrating the antics of a number of poor town fools, hurling insults and tomatoes. There were aristocracy lording over dirty peasants, physical abuse of subjects and visitors from the hinterlands. And the most obscene display of mans inhumanity to man was the jousting, which was like a hockey game on horses.
If you cherish any of the progress man has made toward a more respectable mingling of man and nature, with our fellow citizens and beasts of the universe, you will stand behind me in decrying these throwbacks to a time of uncouth gutter level existence and utter disregard to the sacredness of men and woman.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:38:37pm |
re: #267 reine.de.tout
Oh, really?
Which do you think I am?
Let’s see - we know I’m not Jewish. What does that leave?Did you intend to insult me, or were you just not thinking?
No he didn’t, he’s saying it’s not common knowledge.
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McSpiff Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:38:40pm |
re: #274 Obdicut
No, he was saying it’s specialized knowledge most people wouldn’t ever get a chance to learn, and he’s right.
I learned of it through punk music. (so yes, specialized knowledge)
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:38:45pm |
re: #274 Obdicut
No, he was saying it’s specialized knowledge most people wouldn’t ever get a chance to learn, and he’s right.
I learned it right here at LGF.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:38:51pm |
re: #268 McSpiff
Sure. It was a little much. And I said so. But that doesn’t mean that continuing to mock her is a good idea. Because it’s not.
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Nimed Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:38:53pm |
re: #262 windsagio
I think you have to be a skinhead or Jewish to have heard of that, I hadn’t either >>
Hey, I’m not either, and I’ve heard of it. Basically, I had a friend who liked a Landser
song before knowing what they were about.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:38:58pm |
re: #263 Fozzie Bear
Well, I respectfully suggest you don’t have a good bead on deer behavior if you are going to suggest that deer and cows don’t like the same type of environment.
It is my experience that deer just don’t give a shit. At least the white-tail variety. They’ll raid your bird feeder if you mount it low enough. They will steal hay from cows, sleep in barns if the door is left open, etc.
They really aren’t all that picky about where they hang out.
Guess you’ll have to explain that to all those thousands of hunters that buy deer blinds and deer stands. Tell them all they have to do is go out to an open field and wait!
Or maybe Wal Marts parking lot!
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windsagio Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:38:59pm |
re: #267 reine.de.tout
I should have added the third ‘On lgf’ there, but didn’t think of it till too late.
I’d ask for some pity tho, just woke up 3 minutes ago :)
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webevintage Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:39:02pm |
re: #251 oaktree
First time I’ve ever heard of that one. O_O
Me too.
I guess I don’t hang out with enough neo-Nazis…..
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:39:21pm |
re: #282 reine.de.tout
I learned it right here at LGF.
Which is a place with a lot of specialized knowledge when it comes to white supremacists.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:39:42pm |
re: #270 greygandalf
I was unaware cows wandered the woods. Learn something new everyday.
That was my point EGGZACCLY!
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:39:42pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:39:47pm |
re: #279 Walter L. Newton
Honestly. I love your writing style.
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:40:03pm |
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:40:27pm |
re: #286 windsagio
I should have added the third ‘On lgf’ there, but didn’t think of it till too late.
I’d ask for some pity tho, just woke up 3 minutes ago :)
*smooch*
s’ all OK.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:40:28pm |
re: #239 sattv4u2
t/y
(ummm, and what was the issue with the “88”!?!?)
Alphanumeric substitution makes that come out as HH. Guess what that stands for to some people.
Also good-luck number in many parts of the world, so complicated.
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darthstar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:40:36pm |
BTW: Guanxi is a Chinese word for ‘relationships’ (more specifically, the dynamic in them). 88 is a lucky number (8s are lucky to the Chinese)
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:40:49pm |
Ewww, I just peeled off half my shoulder, icky.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:40:55pm |
re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Honestly. I love your writing style.
You and me both… we’re a fan club of two. Thanks.
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windsagio Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:41:05pm |
re: #279 Walter L. Newton
I actually haaate renfaires and SCA things, so I’m with you :D
Great post tho’! (Still waking up/foggy sadly)
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:41:10pm |
re: #285 sattv4u2
Guess you’ll have to explain that to all those thousands of hunters that buy deer blinds and deer stands. Tell them all they have to do is go out to an open field and wait!
Or maybe Wal Marts parking lot!
Yeah, I don’t get it. It would take me approximately 20 minutes to bag a deer if I hunted. Then again, most of the hunters didn’t grow up playing in the woods they hunt in.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:41:17pm |
re: #296 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Ewww, I just peeled off half my shoulder, icky.
Put down the axe!
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:41:18pm |
re: #295 darthstar
BTW: Guanxi is a Chinese word for ‘relationships’ (more specifically, the dynamic in them). 88 is a lucky number (8s are lucky to the Chinese)
And that was what Guanxi88’x explanation was, something along those lines.
And once he clarified it, everything was copacetic.
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:41:30pm |
re: #295 darthstar
BTW: Guanxi is a Chinese word for ‘relationships’ (more specifically, the dynamic in them). 88 is a lucky number (8s are lucky to the Chinese)
HE’S A CHINESE SYMPATHIZER! PURGE HIM!
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windsagio Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:41:47pm |
re: #288 Obdicut
Or on the subject in general. I’ve learned a lot of things I’d NEVER have known on the subject since I started reading here.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:41:47pm |
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Nimed Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:41:49pm |
re: #269 sattv4u2
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
If you used copy-paste, only the first “thank you” counts.
/
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webevintage Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:41:50pm |
re: #296 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Ewww, I just peeled off half my shoulder, icky.
TMI
Please don’t tell us when you are molting….
;-)
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:41:57pm |
re: #249 albusteve
deer are found where the food source is…they move around in the open all the time, but they prefer some close cover if possible…that could even be 3’ high bean crops
Basically, if there’s something to eat, a deer will go there.
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McSpiff Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:41:59pm |
re: #290 SanFranciscoZionist
Of course, there’s THIS.
What can I say? I live in Canada. Doesn’t take much to get some big fines/day in court/lose your hunting license around here. Hell, hitting a moose instead of a deer is enough (no joke). If someone were to do that around here I suspect they’d keep it quiet, most likely because if they didn’t, the farmer would hear and that would lead to serious trouble.
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darthstar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:41:59pm |
re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Honestly. I love your writing style.
That was a well-written post by Walter. I was laughing all the way through it.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:42:19pm |
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:42:24pm |
re: #305 Nimed
If you used copy-paste, only the first “thank you” counts.
/
I did it the old fashioned way
Wanna see the blisters on my thumbs!?!?!
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:42:27pm |
re: #300 sattv4u2
Put down the axe!
Nope, its sun burn. Just got a sheet the size of a postcard peeled off.
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:43:12pm |
re: #307 SanFranciscoZionist
Basically, if there’s something to eat, a deer will go there.
Yep. And they really don’t care if they are in the woods or not. I’m not sure why people seem to think they are exclusively forest creatures. Too much watching Bambi, not enough time outdoors, I guess.
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Kragar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:43:14pm |
re: #306 webevintage
TMI
Please don’t tell us when you are molting…
;-)
Well, I do have an ingrown toe nail I could discuss for a while…
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Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:43:18pm |
re: #301 reine.de.tout
And that was what Guanxi88’x explanation was, something along those lines.
And once he clarified it, everything was copacetic.
That’s like knowing that white is a color associated with death in some cultures and thus the Western tradition of brides dressing in white is a bit disconcerting to them.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:43:23pm |
re: #285 sattv4u2
Guess you’ll have to explain that to all those thousands of hunters that buy deer blinds and deer stands. Tell them all they have to do is go out to an open field and wait!
Or maybe Wal Marts parking lot!
Can I tell the guy with the deer blind built into the side of a bare hill near a trickle of water, where you can’t see a tree for miles?
They get quite a lot of deer. Good hunting there.
Sheesh, this is one of the stupidest claims I’ve seen made on LGF.
Here’s some guidlines to helping your cattle not negatively impact deer:
Including helpful hints about fencing off any woodland so that your cows don’t go in there, because they will go into the woodland. Funny, that.
Here’s another paper on it:
And here’s a whole damn book on it:
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McSpiff Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:43:44pm |
re: #311 sattv4u2
I did it the old fashioned way
Wanna see the blisters on my thumbs!?!?!
Look whatever repetitive strain you have on your hands is your own business entirely… ///
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windsagio Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:43:51pm |
re: #299 Fozzie Bear
I could bag a deer sitting on the porch of either cabin if I wanted. There’s something kinda awful about that tho’.
The guy that used to take care of the lake would set up a saltlick across the water and shoot deer from the porch swing >> Didn’t like that guy, except he left tons of pornos up there and as young teens we found that FREAKING AWESOME.
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albusteve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:43:55pm |
re: #283 Obdicut
Sure. It was a little much. And I said so. But that doesn’t mean that continuing to mock her is a good idea. Because it’s not.
starting to sound like a hair salon full of old ladies
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darthstar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:43:58pm |
re: #301 reine.de.tout
And that was what Guanxi88’x explanation was, something along those lines.
And once he clarified it, everything was copacetic.
We have another Lizard here whose nic is based on a Chinese word for eight (think Taoist cosmology)
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:44:15pm |
re: #295 darthstar
BTW: Guanxi is a Chinese word for ‘relationships’ (more specifically, the dynamic in them). 88 is a lucky number (8s are lucky to the Chinese)
I thought maybe he played the piano.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:44:23pm |
re: #257 Walter L. Newton
My only problem was with the statement “Reminds me of opening day deer hunters who kill off half the cattle in the country.” not that you can see cows and deer grazing near by each other. Hell, there are so many deer in our neighborhood, my Garfield like cat can be seen lounging around while deer are grazing 20 feet away.
But not half the cattle in the country is getting killed on opening day of deer season. (My cat got grazed once).
Poor kitty.
I went to college in Massachusetts for a couple of years, and we were always warned to stay out of the woods during hunting season.
Of course, the local farmers had bigger threats to their livestock, one of them being the singing dingo that belonged to my college, and which was, for a time, allowed to roam free.
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albusteve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:44:40pm |
re: #307 SanFranciscoZionist
Basically, if there’s something to eat, a deer will go there.
then I eat them….the Great Circle of Life
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:44:40pm |
re: #319 albusteve
starting to sound like a hair salon full of old ladies
Surely there are better ways than that to spend your spare time, Steve.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:44:54pm |
re: #317 McSpiff
Look whatever repetitive strain you have on your hands is your own business entirely… ///
It’s nothing sinister
But I could use a cigarette right about now!!
/
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:44:55pm |
re: #314 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Well, I do have an ingrown toe nail I could discuss for a while…
Last year I messed up and got burned so bad from the Sun.. That my ears pealed…It was ugly
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:44:59pm |
re: #298 windsagio
I actually haaate renfaires and SCA things, so I’m with you :D
Great post tho’! (Still waking up/foggy sadly)
Ok… before we get into it like this morning, the essay was satire, sarcasm and I enjoyed the heck out of my first Ren Fair… especially being able to see such a rich display of very professional variety artist. I grew up both with watching and performing various variety arts, and it’s a dying form of entertainment, and I was in heaven watching some of the few experts left in the business… Snot and Puke, Arsene Dupin, Ded Bob and so on… par excellence.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:45:06pm |
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:45:08pm |
re: #320 darthstar
We have another Lizard here whose nic is based on a Chinese word for eight (think Taoist cosmology)
er, um, no can do.
Not nearly edumacated enough.
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darthstar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:45:16pm |
re: #318 windsagio
I could bag a deer sitting on the porch of either cabin if I wanted. There’s something kinda awful about that tho’.
The guy that used to take care of the lake would set up a saltlick across the water and shoot deer from the porch swing >> Didn’t like that guy, except he left tons of pornos up there and as young teens we found that FREAKING AWESOME.
We’ve got deer outside our door. I’m so tempted to drop one. I haven’t had fresh venison that I actually killed myself in, hell, 22 years now.
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darthstar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:45:37pm |
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darthstar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:45:57pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:46:12pm |
re: #266 Walter L. Newton
What? For some reason the DSL is really slow today, I won’t even try videos… anyway, we get all kinds of wildlife around out house, in our house, alive, pieces that were alive that the dogs drag in, it’s a zoo around here in the summer.
Video of a fawn letting itself into someone’s living room through a pet door.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:46:27pm |
re: #322 SanFranciscoZionist
Poor kitty.
I went to college in Massachusetts for a couple of years, and we were always warned to stay out of the woods during hunting season.
Of course, the local farmers had bigger threats to their livestock, one of them being the singing dingo that belonged to my college, and which was, for a time, allowed to roam free.
Kitty comment was a joke.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:46:31pm |
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NastyLiberal Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:46:34pm |
re: #1 webevintage
Just what I was thinking; we thought we were having fun before? Just wait!
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darthstar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:47:05pm |
re: #334 SanFranciscoZionist
Video of a fawn letting itself into someone’s living room through a pet door.
That’s called volunteering for dinner. Roast whole fawn…yum!
/(semi)
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:47:09pm |
re: #270 greygandalf
I was unaware cows wandered the woods. Learn something new everyday.
They won’t go far in, but in light woods, with deep grass under the trees, they will nose in to check out the food supply.
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windsagio Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:47:15pm |
re: #321 Alouette
I was gonna go with the Dick Tracy villain (that stunned people with his piano music), but can’t get an image. Apparently there’s a rapper that took said villain’s name tho, which is kinda cool :D
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albusteve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:47:27pm |
re: #325 Obdicut
Surely there are better ways than that to spend your spare time, Steve.
what?
you don’t like my hair?
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windsagio Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:48:10pm |
re: #328 Walter L. Newton
Remember Walter, I always think you’re being tricksie :D
A good renfaire is great, a bad one is agonizing, lets’ go wit hthat :)
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:48:21pm |
re: #331 darthstar
We’ve got deer outside our door. I’m so tempted to drop one. I haven’t had fresh venison that I actually killed myself in, hell, 22 years now.
Well, get a hunting license, and enjoy fresh venison.
I think deer are beautiful animals, and normally, I’m not a big fan of hunting. However, we have eliminated all their natural predators, and so we need to do the job.
Plus, they are delicious.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:48:24pm |
re: #341 albusteve
I feel the beehive distracts from the limpid pools of your eyes. But I know ya gotta be you.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:48:29pm |
re: #285 sattv4u2
Guess you’ll have to explain that to all those thousands of hunters that buy deer blinds and deer stands. Tell them all they have to do is go out to an open field and wait!
Or maybe Wal Marts parking lot!
My husband’s grandmother once shot a deer from her bathroom window.
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McSpiff Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:48:32pm |
re: #341 albusteve
what?
you don’t like my hair?
I always pictured you as this guy: Image: Steve-Wilkos.jpg
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:48:33pm |
re: #331 darthstar
We’ve got deer outside our door. I’m so tempted to drop one. I haven’t had fresh venison that I actually killed myself in, hell, 22 years now.
Right at this very moment, or in general? We have them all over the neighborhood… you really have to be at duck and sometimes after dark, they will jump in front of you car unexpectedly… saw a dead one on the Hwy yesterday afternoon just up the road here.
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darthstar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:48:35pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:49:07pm |
re: #292 eclectic infidel
I didn’t know poetry was in your veins!
What did you think of Vic’s?
I liked it! Lots of food, yummy, good company.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:49:25pm |
re: #345 SanFranciscoZionist
My husband’s grandmother once shot a deer from her bathroom window.
And she felt the need to pack heat while going to the bathroom because ,,,,????
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:49:37pm |
re: #344 Obdicut
I feel the beehive distracts from the limpid pools of your eyes. But I know ya gotta be you.
That was clever, and funny, what happened?
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wee fury Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:49:43pm |
re: #345 SanFranciscoZionist
My husband’s grandmother once shot a deer from her bathroom window.
That is so … wrong.
/
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albusteve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:49:58pm |
re: #344 Obdicut
I feel the beehive distracts from the limpid pools of your eyes. But I know ya gotta be you.
makes me feel taller
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:50:08pm |
re: #345 SanFranciscoZionist
My husband’s grandmother once shot a deer from her bathroom window.
I’m not one bit surprised to hear that.
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:50:16pm |
re: #347 Walter L. Newton
Right at this very moment, or in general? We have them all over the neighborhood… you really have to be at duck and sometimes after dark, they will jump in front of you car unexpectedly… saw a dead one on the Hwy yesterday afternoon just up the road here.
They commit suicide by car all the time in PA. I have hit 4 deer since I got my license.
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Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:50:32pm |
re: #351 sattv4u2
And she felt the need to pack heat while going to the bathroom because ,,,???
I’ve sniped at raccoons in my birdfeeder with a .22 from a bathroom window. What’s wrong with that? ;)
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:51:16pm |
re: #353 Walter L. Newton
That was clever, and funny, what happened?
The idea that I lack a sense of humor is a fantasy of yours.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:51:18pm |
re: #357 Fozzie Bear
They commit suicide by car all the time in PA. I have hit 4 deer since I got my license.
And you think by now they would learn to cross the highway where those deer crossing signs are !!
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:51:41pm |
re: #359 Obdicut
The idea that I lack a sense of humor is a fantasy of yours.
Lets put it to the test
Tell us a joke!
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windsagio Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:52:00pm |
re: #346 McSpiff
I always pictured you as this guy: Image: Steve-Wilkos.jpg
I picture him like this >>
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:52:29pm |
re: #342 windsagio
Remember Walter, I always think you’re being tricksie :D
A good renfaire is great, a bad one is agonizing, lets’ go wit hthat :)
I suspect the Colorado one is good, consider it’s been around over 30 years, attracts the best entertainers in the Ren Fair circuit and I had a good time. As I mentioned this morning, I was actually hanging around when the folks down in Magnolia Texas was putting together their fair, over 30 years ago, but I was too busy with other outdoor entertainment projects to get involved with that project. Even though close to the beginning of the whole thing, I never got around to attending one… so… it turned out to be a treat.
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darthstar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:52:50pm |
re: #345 SanFranciscoZionist
My husband’s grandmother once shot a deer from her bathroom window.
My dad shot one from our kitchen during breakfast once. Opening day of deer season (I was in 5th grade at the time). We lived on top of a hill. Someone noticed two deer on the next hill over…about 400 yards across a gully. I got his gun, my little sister slid open the sliding glass door, he used the corner of the table as a rest, squeezed off one shot, and the three-point just stayed laying on the ground. The buck next to it hopped up, but it was just a little “forkey” so he let it go. We drove around in our ‘62 Willy’s (great jeep…I learned to drive in it when I was 9), field dressed it, hung it in the shop, then he took us to school. Me with fresh deer blood on my white shirt and green jeans (school uniform) to show off to my friends.
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:52:55pm |
re: #360 sattv4u2
And you think by now they would learn to cross the highway where those deer crossing signs are !!
Bright, they are not.
They wait to cross until they can see where they are going… Which means at night, they wait until your car is almost to where they are, then they cross.
SPLAT
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:53:06pm |
re: #321 Alouette
I thought maybe he played the piano.
Strangely enough I thought there was an Aztec connection with the name.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:53:29pm |
re: #361 sattv4u2
Jokes aren’t your own sense of humor; they’re just re-tellings of other people’s senses of humor. You can only tell someone’s sense of humor by what they riff on.
Which is why Eddie Izzard is the funnies man on the planet.
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Nimed Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:53:51pm |
This turned out to be an unexpectedly bucolic thread. Thanks Masha!
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:53:57pm |
re: #368 Obdicut
Jokes aren’t your own sense of humor; they’re just re-tellings of other people’s senses of humor. You can only tell someone’s sense of humor by what they riff on.
Which is why Eddie Izzard is the funnies man on the planet.
[Video]
oy!
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albusteve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:54:53pm |
re: #365 darthstar
My dad shot one from our kitchen during breakfast once. Opening day of deer season (I was in 5th grade at the time). We lived on top of a hill. Someone noticed two deer on the next hill over…about 400 yards across a gully. I got his gun, my little sister slid open the sliding glass door, he used the corner of the table as a rest, squeezed off one shot, and the three-point just stayed laying on the ground. The buck next to it hopped up, but it was just a little “forkey” so he let it go. We drove around in our ‘62 Willy’s (great jeep…I learned to drive in it when I was 9), field dressed it, hung it in the shop, then he took us to school. Me with fresh deer blood on my white shirt and green jeans (school uniform) to show off to my friends.
and now everyone is deaf
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windsagio Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:54:58pm |
re: #363 Walter L. Newton
Awesome, sounds like you had a great time :D
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Charles Johnson Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:55:02pm |
I appreciate all the input — and I’m probably not going to run the ads from the American Energy Alliance.
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darthstar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:56:05pm |
re: #371 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sarah?
Now, now…just because I grew up in rural Northern California where seasons were relative (my oldest brother and I took out deer year round, when opportunity knocked—always took them home and dressed them out and spent a night wrapping meat after), doesn’t make me a Sarah Palin.
You betcha.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:56:17pm |
re: #375 Charles
I appreciate all the input — and I’m probably not going to run the ads from the American Energy Alliance.
Thank you.
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Nimed Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:56:36pm |
re: #360 sattv4u2
And you think by now they would learn to cross the highway where those deer crossing signs are !!
It helps when you survive your learning experience.
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:57:17pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:57:33pm |
re: #369 Nimed
Bucolic doesn’t sound pretty. Mebbe it’s the “colic” part.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:57:53pm |
re: #368 Obdicut
Jokes aren’t your own sense of humor; they’re just re-tellings of other people’s senses of humor. You can only tell someone’s sense of humor by what they riff on.
Where did you get that from? Is that your opinion or something your read or heard? Have you ever made a living at entertaining people with comedy, on your feet, live, show after show, relying on your wit, your ability to “read” people on the fly, how to adjust, how to recover, and all the time looking spontaneous and fresh… and not get hurt?
It’s far from just re-telling anything.
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albusteve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:58:18pm |
re: #380 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Bucolic doesn’t sound pretty. Mebbe it’s the “colic” part.
we had a colic when I was a kid….beautiful animal
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:58:48pm |
re: #381 Walter L. Newton
Where did you get that from? Is that your opinion or something your read or heard? Have you ever made a living at entertaining people with comedy, on your feet, live, show after show, relying on your wit, your ability to “read” people on the fly, how to adjust, how to recover, and all the time looking spontaneous and fresh… and not get hurt?
Yes.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:58:49pm |
re: #381 Walter L. Newton
And… it’s fucking hard.
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windsagio Mon, Jul 19, 2010 1:59:20pm |
re: #383 Obdicut
What are you 2 evne talkign about, or is walter just being a grumpus again?
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darthstar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:00:10pm |
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:00:11pm |
re: #385 windsagio
Walter thinks I have no sense of humor and is humorlessly going about attempting to prove it.
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:00:34pm |
re: #384 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
And… it’s fucking hard.
Like an outstretched baby’s arm holding a plum, I tell you.
Wait… what are we talking about?
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:00:36pm |
re: #369 Nimed
This turned out to be an unexpectedly bucolic thread. Thanks Masha!
Well..Let’s cure that…
When I first got here a few years ago Jordan was in Fallujah and all I pretty much posted about was him..It was the best way I knew of to get rid of the Stress of my Son in war..
So one day somebody posted here that Dude..You just set an all time upding record for one post ( A call from a rooftop at 3am)…I asked what the heck is a ding? I had no idea… 25000 updings later I think I’ve settled in here..
Why just yesterday Charles deleted a post from somebody telling me to shove the Lizard prayer list up my ass..Yup settling in just nicely here.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:01:37pm |
re: #383 Obdicut
Yes.
Good… and you feel that you were just re-telling of other people sense of humor? I don’t agree… I’m not saying your approuch (or what ever that is) doesn’t, didn’t work for you, but there is no way I could look at comedy in that light and make it work… if anything, I suspect it’s each artists’ way of dealing with the art, and the approach… if you care to detail, go ahead.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:01:38pm |
re: #347 Walter L. Newton
Right at this very moment, or in general? We have them all over the neighborhood… you really have to be at duck and sometimes after dark, they will jump in front of you car unexpectedly… saw a dead one on the Hwy yesterday afternoon just up the road here.
Worst deer story I heard in Lousiana: apparently one night, my husband’s uncle hit a deer with his car, coming home. He, apparently thinking the meat could be salvaged, loaded the injured deer into the back of his car.
Not the back of his truck, mind you. The backseat of the car.
Then he rushed it home. The deer expired on the way.
The worst part of this was that you’re supposed to call and report any deer killed out of hunting season. The phone call was choice. “No, it was HIT at the intersection of the highway and White Ark. Now it’s in my front yard, in the backseat of my son’s car.”
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Nimed Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:01:58pm |
re: #380 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Bucolic doesn’t sound pretty. Mebbe it’s the “colic” part.
Alright… I’ll go with ‘rustic’ or ‘pastoral’ next time.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:02:05pm |
re: #390 Walter L. Newton
Good… and you feel that you were just re-telling of other people sense of humor?
No.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:02:15pm |
re: #351 sattv4u2
And she felt the need to pack heat while going to the bathroom because ,,,???
This is my husband’s family. I thought it best not to ask.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:02:39pm |
re: #387 Obdicut
Walter thinks I have no sense of humor and is humorlessly going about attempting to prove it.
Missed my point… I am not attempting to prove anything, I am attempting to understand why you say “Jokes aren’t your own sense of humor; they’re just re-tellings of other people’s senses of humor.” That’s all…
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:02:41pm |
re: #352 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
In her pajamas?
Of course not. Why would a deer have been wearing my husband’s grandma’s pajamas?
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:03:04pm |
re: #356 reine.de.tout
I’m not one bit surprised to hear that.
Because they’re from Morehouse Parish?
//
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:03:50pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:04:02pm |
re: #396 SanFranciscoZionist
You. Are. Welcome.
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wrenchwench Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:04:21pm |
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:04:44pm |
re: #393 Obdicut
No.
No… you don’t feel that you were just re-telling of other people sense of humor or no, you don’t want to detail what you are talking about?
See… beginning of comedy.
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albusteve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:05:16pm |
re: #399 Obdicut
Well, think about it for awhile, then.
And watch some Eddie Izzard.
[Video]
he’s not funny…he’s a hack
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Charles Johnson Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:06:02pm |
re: #220 SteveMcG
Well, I don’t grind like I used to, but the ad discussion got my juices running a little. (I’ll clean it up later) anyway, as much as I would have suggested Charles to question the motives of the solicitation, perhaps it’s worth considering the motives (even unconcious ones) of Charles’ query. Maybe running LGF is more of a burden that he would like to admit. I bet it was a lot easier ten years ago. I will have to hit the tip jar tonight, but keep in mind what we may easily take for granted here.
This. What you said.
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albusteve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:06:18pm |
re: #401 wrenchwench
You really know how to keep LVQ on edge…
breathlessly awaiting the outcome here
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:06:44pm |
re: #403 albusteve
Oh lordy. The man that Monty Python declared the Lost Python and the funniest man in the world, is a hack.
Yep.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:06:59pm |
re: #401 wrenchwench
You really know how to keep LVQ on edge…
I doubt that was his intent at all. I respect Charles. I would still like him as a person even if he made that choice (which I obviously think is very wrong). If I was even remotely, a part of his consideration, then he understands my position as well.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:07:30pm |
re: #402 Walter L. Newton
That you think that is the beginning of comedy— that’s comedy.
Telling jokes measures your ability to tell jokes. Creating jokes is where the sense of humor comes in. Not in telling them.
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windsagio Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:07:49pm |
re: #406 Obdicut
I suspect steve’s post may have been made in bad faith ;)
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:08:14pm |
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wrenchwench Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:08:41pm |
re: #407 LudwigVanQuixote
I doubt that was his intent at all. I respect Charles. I would still like him as a person even if he made that choice (which I obviously think is very wrong). If I was even remotely, a part of his consideration, then he understands my position as well.
I was joking, I didn’t think that was his intent.
What do you think of the comment two spaces above yours?
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albusteve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:09:31pm |
re: #406 Obdicut
Oh lordy. The man that Monty Python declared the Lost Python and the funniest man in the world, is a hack.
Yep.
of course they all endorse each other….no surprise, but funniest man in the world?…good grief…it’s all subjective and nobody’s opinion counts for anything in the end…humor is whatever one makes it
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:09:35pm |
re: #403 albusteve
he’s not funny…he’s a hack
Anything to troll people there Stevo? Let me ask, is there anything of value in your life anymore, or as you watch one day slip into the next, and reflect upon the emptiness in yourself, simply relish abusing folks on the inter webs?
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albusteve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:10:21pm |
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:10:24pm |
re: #413 wrenchwench
I was joking, I didn’t think that was his intent.
What do you think of the comment two spaces above yours?
I wish I had thousands to send Charles for this site. I think LGF provides a vital service and I really wish my own finances weren’t so tight at the moment.
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windsagio Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:10:43pm |
re: #415 LudwigVanQuixote
In his ‘defense’, he’ll stop trolling if somebody talks about music written before 1976 or cars made before 1982.
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:11:10pm |
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:11:17pm |
re: #414 albusteve
Nope. Some people are actually funnier than others. Subjectivity rejected.
There exists a Platonic joke. I think Pratchett saw it once, slightly obscured by a Platonic cheese and a Platonic tequila sunrise.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:12:06pm |
re: #420 Obdicut
Nope. Some people are actually funnier than others. Subjectivity rejected.
There exists a Platonic joke. I think Pratchett saw it once, slightly obscured by a Platonic cheese and a Platonic tequila sunrise.
Now that was brilliant! I have never seen a good joke made on the parable of the line before!
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albusteve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:12:09pm |
re: #415 LudwigVanQuixote
Anything to troll people there Stevo? Let me ask, is there anything of value in your life anymore, or as you watch one day slip into the next, and reflect upon the emptiness in yourself, simply relish abusing folks on the inter webs?
pretty funny, but not genius….you are wasting precious keystokes
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windsagio Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:12:26pm |
re: #420 Obdicut
Did you ever read the old Asimov story about the last joke ever told?
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:12:49pm |
re: #423 windsagio
Did you ever read the old Asimov story about the last joke ever told?
No— if you’ve got a link, feel free.
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albusteve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:13:00pm |
re: #418 windsagio
In his ‘defense’, he’ll stop trolling if somebody talks about music written before 1976 or cars made before 1982.
you’re trolling
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:13:53pm |
re: #417 LudwigVanQuixote
I wish I had thousands to send Charles for this site. I think LGF provides a vital service and I really wish my own finances weren’t so tight at the moment.
Just subscribe to the site..It’s only 10 bucks a month..I lose that much in my laundry every month..
/Hi Ludwig!
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:14:18pm |
re: #421 LudwigVanQuixote
I just reread Anathem, which is Platonism taken to an insane (but interesting) extreme.
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windsagio Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:18:35pm |
re: #424 Obdicut
can’t find anything but summaries with spoilers. Want a spoiler?
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:19:08pm |
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Macha Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:20:26pm |
re: #111 McSpiff
I gave your husband the usual “Hey welcome, whats the story behind your name?”. Yes, I did because the user name “JCrow” through up some warning signs for me. He never bothered to answer. If that’s all it takes to scare him off, he’s probably not one for this site in the first place.
Why he couldn’t post a response in the first place I have no idea.
Yes, you did just as you said. He didn’t respond because I called him to help with something and then when he got back the other comments had been made and he posted the response to you accidentally under my name. Newbie is simply that-new at finding one’s way around. I’m late responding here too because of numerous interruptions. Asking about his name didn’t scare him off. It was the subsequent comments at annoyed him and seemed juvenile to him.
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Macha Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:22:15pm |
re: #113 wrenchwench
I think he answered, but it came out under Macha’s nic. Shared ‘puter?
Yep, and interruptions. It was probably a bad time of day for him to try and post. I”m having the same problem right now. Just had to go to the door for a nice census taker.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:22:48pm |
re: #368 Obdicut
Jokes aren’t your own sense of humor; they’re just re-tellings of other people’s senses of humor. You can only tell someone’s sense of humor by what they riff on
And they say you don’t have a sense of humor!!!!
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darthstar Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:23:44pm |
re: #432 Macha
Yep, and interruptions. It was probably a bad time of day for him to try and post. I”m having the same problem right now. Just had to go to the door for a nice census taker.
Did you bring your shotgun?
/Erick Son of Erick reference.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:25:26pm |
re: #431 Macha
What subsequent comments?
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windsagio Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:29:50pm |
re: #436 windsagio
The point of the story btw is that there really are no new jokes, except for puns, and we don’t really laugh at those ;)
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albusteve Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:30:16pm |
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:30:35pm |
re: #435 Obdicut
What subsequent comments?
Perhaps when I stated that if I signed in as CManson or JWGacy I would expect to be asked about it
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Macha Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:32:48pm |
re: #130 Big Steve
I got called a whale dick (baculum) the first time I posted here.
I’m sorry. That was definitely not welcoming.
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windsagio Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:40:19pm |
Are Jews a Race?… What they
By Ryan Joseph Murdough - 07/12/2010 - 2:14 pm
Are Jews a Race?… What they themselves say!
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Macha Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:48:20pm |
re: #200 Obdicut
McSpiff didn’t ask a single thing that was rude of Jcrow, though. Even Satt didn’t really say much of anything.
What was the comment or comments that particularly hurt or annoyed him?
You’re being rather rude towards members right now— by your own standards, to me, you’re shooting before you look.
I probably am Obdicut. It is a small thing and I intend no rudeness. I also apologize for not answering this sooner. I’ve been interrupted through this exchange more times than I care to count. To answer your question of what was particularly said, it was mild, as has already been pointed out. It wasn’t asking about the name. It was the tone of the comments when he didn’t reply right away and then when an attempt was made, an inadvertent error was made with which name he used to post Small potatoes by LGF standards. Disappointing when I’ve been telling him for several months what neat folks are here. I’m dropping this now. Hope others can.
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wrenchwench Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:54:59pm |
re: #445 Macha
I hope he comes back. I found LGF pretty intimidating at first. I didn’t even comment for a few months after I registered. Fortunately, that didn’t automatically cause accusations of “Sock!” back then like it would now.
OK, now I’ll drop it. :)
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Macha Mon, Jul 19, 2010 2:55:16pm |
re: #158 McSpiff
Thank you for your response. It’s unfortunate that it played out the way it did time wise. I appreciated your posting the exchange. The comments caught JCrow by surprise and, well you know the rest. I hold no hard feelings and hope you don’t either.
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Macha Mon, Jul 19, 2010 3:00:01pm |
re: #172 sattv4u2
Sorry for ganging up on the new guy I guess, but I see nothing wrong my behavior.
Nor with mine
The name CRIES out to be questioned
I’ll come back logged in as CManson or GWGacy. I PRAY that if I did I would be “ganged up on”
Yah, yah, if you only knew how totally opposite from any political reference that name was, and it didn’t cross either my mind or his when he used it. In retrospect the name does cry out to be questioned. And that was OK. Just hold your pee till you get an answer next time. I’ve got no hard feelings. Hope that goes the same for you.
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M. Dubious Mon, Jul 19, 2010 3:08:40pm |
re: #425 albusteve
you’re trolling
Don`t know if you`re actually into cars, Steve, but this is my bid for sexiest car ever:
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jul 19, 2010 3:09:37pm |
re: #443 windsagio
There’s a similarity, and the politics are the same, right down to unfairly criticizing Israel while defending the Palestinians.
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jul 19, 2010 3:14:33pm |
re: #450 eclectic infidel
There’s a similarity, and the politics are the same, right down to unfairly criticizing Israel while defending the Palestinians.
It’s him. Check out his picture on the American Third Position website. The same racial politics.
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ClaudeMonet Mon, Jul 19, 2010 11:35:31pm |
re: #169 WindUpBird
Why do we take this party seriously again?
Because if they win control of one or both houses, they can do mischief if nothing else.
Think in terms of a baby with a loaded .45.
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boxhead Tue, Jul 20, 2010 1:24:41am |
This is like Alice in Wonderland, but without the hookah!
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Jimmah Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:16:05pm |
re: #117 Macha
Thank you Charles. I think that is true to a degree. I know for a fact that JCrow anticipated a certain level of needing a thick skin. What makes me annoyed is the rapidity with which some members regress to very adolescent behavior without cause. It isn’t just in this instance. I’ve seen other people ridiculed and run off from almost the get go. Joking on a forum is one thing, and so is disagreement. But how in the world can we have meaningful exchanges that others will take seriously if we behave like a bunch of frat boys and girls with new members who are getting to know us? I came to LGF on the recommendation that it was centrist and that there were a number of intelligent people here. LGF has gotten pretty well known. I, for one, would like to see it’s rep upheld, not see it slide into mediocrity because some members can’t post without entertaining themselves at someone else’s expense. Frankly, I think it is a fairly serious problem on the internet and just because that is the way it is, it isn’t perhaps the best way to be.
Hilarious given that you updinged Ryannons disgusting, vicious and completely insane - not to mention deleted - rant against my wife.
Sorry I know this is a dead thread, but in case you don’t see this I will be sure to link to it for you in future if you decide to make it relevant to do so.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Jul 22, 2010 2:23:43am |
Here’s the list of the 35 members of the House Tea Party Caucus as posted by Michelle Bachman and last updated at 5:45pm ET on 7/21/10 with links to their respective wikipedia entries:
Todd Akin (MO-2)
Rodney Alexander (LA-5)
Michele Bachmann (MN-6)
Joe Barton (TX-6)
Roscoe Bartlett (MD-6)
Gus Bilirakis (FL-9)
Rob Bishop (UT-1)
Michael Burgess (TX-26)
Paul Broun (GA-10)
Dan Burton (IN-5)
John Carter (TX-31)
John Culberson (TX-7)
John Fleming (LA-4)
Trent Franks (AZ-2)
Phil Gingrey (GA-11)
Louie Gohmert (TX-1)
Tom Graves (GA-9)
Pete Hoekstra (MI-2)
Walter Jones (NC-3)
Steve King (IA-5)
Doug Lamborn (CO-5)
Cynthia Lummis (WY)
Tom McClintock (CA-4)
Gary Miller (CA-42)
Jerry Moran (KS-1)
Randy Neugebauer (TX-19)
Mike Pence (IN-6)
Tom Price (GA-6)
Denny Rehberg (MT)
Pete Sessions (TX-32)
Adrian Smith (NE-3)
Lamar Smith (TX-21)
Cliff Stearns (FL-6)
Todd Tiahrt (KS-4)
Joe Wilson (SC-2)
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