Charles Johnson Blogosphere • Mon Jul 19, 2010 at 1:50 pm PDT • Views: 876
Gathered from our referrers page, here are some reactions to Sarah Palin’s now-famous “refudiate” post on Twitter.
Many people (but by no means all) seem to be focusing on Palin’s neologism, and missing the real point — the bigotry and hatred her statements on the so-called “Ground Zero mosque” endorse.
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Honestly, if I would have read refudiate as a misspelled word in an article I wouldn't have questioned it or cared. The big deal is her claiming to be Shakespeare over it.
She asked peace-loving Muslims to refudiate/repudiate/refuse/whatever the building of a Sufi community center in Manhattan, who's imam is a 20+ year resident of the neighborhood.
She characterized as a stab to the heart. And to the heartland.
Yes, what she actually said was far more dangerous, bigoted, and irresponsible than the way she said it.
Oh, and this one, "To sleep, perchance to drill baby, drill."
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms and gun down wolves from a low flying helicopter
I think the amazingly bigoted remarks would have still drawn attention, both of approval and disapproval.
Now, for better or worse, most people are just laughing at the fact she not only screwed up, but then tried to hide it and, when that failed, tried to compare herself to Shakespeare.
She did succeed in getting a lot of attention and discussion over her little tweet. Which wouldnt have happened with correct spelling.
I'd much rather that the media be screaming from the rooftops "If you support this xenophobic 'heartland' crap YOU ARE WRONG". But instead they giggle over spelling.
She asked peace-loving Muslims to refudiate/repudiate/refuse/whatever the building of a Sufi community center in Manhattan, who's imam is a 20+ year resident of the neighborhood.
She characterized as a stab to the heart. And to the heartland.
Yes, what she actually said was far more dangerous, bigoted, and irresponsible than the way she said it.
But she said such horrible things in such a gosh darn down home folsky manner, you betcha!
I think the amazingly bigoted remarks would have still drawn attention, both of approval and disapproval.
Now, for better or worse, most people are just laughing at the fact she not only screwed up, but then tried to hide it and, when that failed, tried to compare herself to Shakespeare.
I'm always amazed at the mindset that makes people hunker down, bristle and fight to defend things like this, when they could have just let it go away.
P, or her handlers have made this 1000x times worse via her actions.
She asked peace-loving Muslims to refudiate/repudiate/refuse/whatever the building of a Sufi community center in Manhattan, who's imam is a 20+ year resident of the neighborhood.
She characterized as a stab to the heart. And to the heartland.
Yes, what she actually said was far more dangerous, bigoted, and irresponsible than the way she said it.
This is a very important point. We should not let her ignorance and stupidity detract from the intense evil of her intent and anti-Americanism of her message.
The willing embrace of ignorance, stupidity and superstition has done more to distance me from the GOP than any amount of pandering or promises from the left.
Reading Sarah Palin's anguished interview with Greta van Susteren of Fox News just after the election, I had an epiphany: Palin is a poet, and a fine one at that. What the philistine media take for incoherence is, in fact, the fruitful ambiguity of verse[...]
A great poet needs to leave open the door between the conscious and unconscious; Sarah Palin has removed her door from its hinges. A great poet does not self-censor; Sarah Palin seems authentically innocent of what she is saying. She could be the most natural, visionary poet since William Blake.
Now if Queenie has recognised English as a living tongue, does she refudiate the Official Language movement?
Late Sunday, Allen said something was detected seeping near the broken oil well and demanded in a sharply worded letter that BP step up monitoring of the ocean floor. Allen didn't say what was seeping. White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Monday afternoon the seepage was about two miles from the well head. He also said the well head is leaking.
The real issue here is the mosque. I heard a talk show host this morning not only slam Muslims for wanting to build the mosque, he was equating the fact that non-Mormons are not allowed inside a Temple during actual temple services, and that is the same as westerners not being able to be in Mecca and that this will become an issue for Mitt if he runs for president... and this was a conservative talk show pundit. This pundit evidently cares nothing about the freedoms given in our constitution.
The willing embrace of ignorance, stupidity and superstition has done more to distance me from the GOP than any amount of pandering or promises from the left.
All of those things have kept me away from the GOP since I was first old enough to vote. I just can't put my brain on hold the way that Fox News, talk radio, and the national GOP want me to.
The Dems are far from perfect, and have the uncanny ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory most of the time, but I'll deal with their idiocy long before I'd ever sign on the GOP party line, *especially* here in Texas.
The real issue here is the mosque. I heard a talk show host this morning not only slam Muslims for wanting to build the mosque, he was equating the fact that non-Mormons are not allowed inside a Temple during actual temple services, and that is the same as westerners not being able to be in Mecca and that this will become an issue for Mitt if he runs for president... and this was a conservative talk show pundit. This pundit evidently cares nothing about the freedoms given in our constitution.
I was unaware that nonbelievers faced a death sentence if they attempted to enter the Tabernacle during services.
The real issue here is the mosque. I heard a talk show host this morning not only slam Muslims for wanting to build the mosque, he was equating the fact that non-Mormons are not allowed inside a Temple during actual temple services, and that is the same as westerners not being able to be in Mecca and that this will become an issue for Mitt if he runs for president... and this was a conservative talk show pundit. This pundit evidently cares nothing about the freedoms given in our constitution.
The real issue is the punditry in this country. They look for outrage where there is none, then they invent it and say, "The question needs to be asked." Then some retard like Michele Bachmann or Sarah Palin repeats what the pundits say with the "some people say" line, and their supporters take up the cause as the next great threat to democracy, and Fox reports on the "news" for two weeks straight.
What we need are reality-based pundits. Not these assholes trying to create a meme that supports their positions on the issues.
The heartland couldn't give a shit about anyone from the ME in those towers.
People like Palin, (crazy right-wing pundits, that is) at least, never saw New Yorkers as real, or particularly 'American'. They still don't.
Not long after the Twin Towers attack, Bill O'Reilly was gleefully suggesting San Francisco as the next terrorist target. So much for a deep and abiding sense of shock, outrage or sorrow.
I just dont understand why she thinks she's good at this whole politics thing.
She's good enough to have a steady following of wingnuts and loons who in turn do damage to the credibility of the GOP. Sarah Palin is doing her part. :)
I mean Mitt's religion will kill him in a general, for sure, but over THAT little tidbit?
I'm no fan of Mitt's, but it's really unfortunate that this is a true statement. I'd much rather there be widespread hate for the man's flip-flopping policies than for the sideways looks concerning his religion...
The real issue here is the mosque. I heard a talk show host this morning not only slam Muslims for wanting to build the mosque, he was equating the fact that non-Mormons are not allowed inside a Temple during actual temple services, and that is the same as westerners not being able to be in Mecca and that this will become an issue for Mitt if he runs for president... and this was a conservative talk show pundit. This pundit evidently cares nothing about the freedoms given in our constitution.
I demand to be allowed into a sweatlodge ceremony! I don't care that I'm not Lakota, know jack about the religion, and it's an all-male ceremony! I have a constitutional right to be included in any religious service I choose to be included in.
(Also, Westerners are allowed in Mecca, just not non-Muslims.)
It doesn't say you have to be a Muslim, or that you'll face death.
Separate from Saudi criminal law
Non-Muslims are not permitted to enter Mecca under Saudi law.[2] The Saudi government supports their position using Sura 9:28 from the Qur'an:
O you who believe! the idolaters are nothing but unclean, so they shall not approach the Sacred Mosque after this year; and if you fear poverty then Allah will enrich you out of His grace if He please; surely Allah is Knowing Wise.
—Qur'an, Sura 9 At-Tawba, ayah 28, [43]
The existence of cities closed to non-Muslims and the mystery of the Hajjis have often aroused intense curiosity in people from around the world. Some have falsely claimed to be Muslims in order to visit the city of Mecca and the Grand Mosque to experience the Hajj for themselves. The first to leave a record was Ludovico di Varthema of Bologna in 1503.[44] The most famous account of a foreigner's journey to Mecca is Personal Narrative of a Pilgrimage to Mecca and Medina, written by Richard Francis Burton.[45] Burton traveled as a Qadiriyyah Sufi from Afghanistan. Individuals who use fake certificates of Muslim identity to enter may be arrested and prosecuted by Saudi authorities.[46]
It was amazing... it was like this guy was trying to hit as many targets as he could in one subject... anything that wasn't mainstream Protestant was not American. One minutes he's talking about how no American could want that mosque built, and then talking to Newt Gringrich, and mentioning that Americans will question Romney about his religion, and how private temple services are the same as not letting westerners in Mecca and this went on... boy, if you wanted to hear someone's view of white bread America, this was it.
People like Palin, (crazy right-wing pundits, that is) at least, never saw New Yorkers as real, or particularly 'American'. They still don't.
Not long after the Twin Towers attack, Bill O'Reilly was gleefully suggesting San Francisco as the next terrorist target. So much for a deep and abiding sense of shock, outrage or sorrow.
Yep. The crazy bitch managed to alienate me before I even heard a single policy position.
Anyone who suggests they are more "real" of an American than myself, I suggest they kindly accept my invitation to go fuck themselves.
I hate Sarah Palin with a passion that burns every bit as brightly as Sarah Palin's hatred for all things different from her. She is a cancer. She is America's festering infected wound, scratched open repeatedly, only to crust over each time more disfigured than the last.
Yep. The crazy bitch managed to alienate me before I even heard a single policy position.
Anyone who suggests they are more "real" of an American than myself, I suggest they kindly accept my invitation to go fuck themselves.
I hate Sarah Palin with a passion that burns every bit as brightly as Sarah Palin's hatred for all things different from her. She is a cancer. She is America's festering infected wound, scratched open repeatedly, only to crust over each time more disfigured than the last.
Yep. The crazy bitch managed to alienate me before I even heard a single policy position.
Anyone who suggests they are more "real" of an American than myself, I suggest they kindly accept my invitation to go fuck themselves.
I hate Sarah Palin with a passion that burns every bit as brightly as Sarah Palin's hatred for all things different from her. She is a cancer. She is America's festering infected wound, scratched open repeatedly, only to crust over each time more disfigured than the last.
I'm not quite I understand your feeling about her. Perhaps if you cut loose and really let go.
I demand to be allowed into a sweatlodge ceremony! I don't care that I'm not Lakota, know jack about the religion, and it's an all-male ceremony! I have a constitutional right to be included in any religious service I choose to be included in.
(Also, Westerners are allowed in Mecca, just not non-Muslims.)
Actually, that's another story... I have had the honor of attending a five day REAL Lakota Sundance... invited by a Lakota family I know in SD., and I approached the 5 days with the respect due... a very important week... and even a challenge for the spectators...
As much as I am a history geek, I would never in my right mind lie about being Muslim in order to gain access to Mecca. The Saudis don't fuck around when it comes to blasphemy of their religious code.
Either we live our principles or we don't. I say we do, and I say that doing so means treating all religions equally. If a synagogue or a cathedral or a Baptist church or a Baha'i temple are OK, then so is a mosque. If the JCC or 92nd St Y would be welcome, so should be the Cordoba House. The day we allow our government to choose between religions, some favored and some disfavored, is the day we become just a little less free.
Ryan J. Murdough, a Republican candidate for New Hampshire State House, has no qualms about expressing his views on race. “It is time for white people in New Hampshire and across the country to take a stand,” Murdough wrote in a letter to the Concord Monitor titled “We must preserve our racial identity”:
For far too long white Americans have been told that diversity is something beneficial to their existence. Statistics prove that the opposite is true. New Hampshire residents must seek to preserve their racial identity if we want future generations to have to possibility to live in such a great state. Affirmative action, illegal and legal non-white immigration, anti-white public school systems, and an anti-white media have done much damage to the United States of America and especially New Hampshire. It is time for white people in New Hampshire and across the country to take a stand. We are only 8 percent of the world’s population and we need our own homeland, just like any other non-white group of people deserve their own homeland.
A Tea Party Express coordinator said Monday the group's expulsion from a national coalition over a member's blog posting about the NAACP was "arrogant and preposterous."
Tea Party Express was expelled from the National Tea Party Federation, a coalition of grass-roots political groups, for refusing to publicly rebuke and oust spokesman Mark Williams.
Williams had posted a blog that satirized the NAACP and referred to its president Benjamin Jealous as "Tom's nephew and NAACP head colored person."
The NAACP approved a resolution last week that calls on activists and others to "repudiate the racist element and activities" within the tea party movement.
Tea Party Express coordinator Joe Wierzbicki claimed the federation had "enabled and empowered the NAACP's racist attacks on the tea party movement, and they should be ashamed of themselves."
"Circular firing squads of groups within the tea party movement attacking one another accomplish nothing, and on this issue the Tea Party Federation is wrong," he said in a statement.
Before my box crashed..Again..He compared Obama to Caesar..
So there you go...
Someone needs to remind Glenn that Caesar was a TITLE, not a name - ancient Rome had a multitude of people with the designation, varying wildly in their location on the political spectrum.
Someone needs to remind Glenn that Caesar was a TITLE, not a name - ancient Rome had a multitude of people with the designation, varying wildly in their location on the political spectrum.
I wonder if anyone has told Glenn that Czar is a derivative of Caesar.
Are Jews a Race?... What they
By Ryan Joseph Murdough - 07/12/2010 - 2:14 pm
Are Jews a Race?... What they themselves say!
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I canceled my twitter account simply because I stopped using it. I am a moderator at whitenews.com where I can write more lengthy posts if I choose. Posting that I was a racist was a mistake because the word has no specific definition. It is just a label that anti-White people like to use to try and silence anyone such as myself from exercising freedom of speech on racial issues. "Anti-semite" is another one that has been thrown around so often that its affect is wearing off.
State Republican Party Chairman John H. Sununu "found the letter to be disgusting and has immediately issued an order barring this imposter from using any party resource to promote his candidacy," said party spokesman Ryan Williams.
"Mr. Murdough is a despicable racist," said Williams. "His racist views are abhorrent and he is not welcome in the New Hampshire Republican Party."
The state party does not endorse candidates in primary elections, but does provide candidates access to voter lists, candidate training and to the state party staff to answer questions, Williams said.
"He is barred from any of those forms of assistance," said Williams. "We are exploring further sanctions against him.
I have to come clean on this issue because I don't think I've made my own particular view known before. And, as everyone knows here, I can be fairly contrarian at times. But in such cases, I have to explain my position.
So, here I go.
As an anti-theist, I would be really happy if there was one less house of any kind of worship in the world today. I know this doesn't really jive with most Americans, but there you have it. So, I'm not going to be one to hugely vocalize in favor of this building anyway, as I just think it's childish to worship things in the sky as it is.
However, a few things which put me squarely on the side of this blog's position:
1) The guy running this place is a Sufi Muslim. Sufis are basically mystics. They're generally about as un-fundamentalist as you can get in Islam. He's about the ideal of a "moderate Muslim" poster child as you can get. Being an anti-theist is one thing, but being is a realist is another. I'm against any religion growing right now, but I'll take what I can get. Sufism is by far preferable over Wahabbism any day of the week to me.
2) The leaders opposing this mosque are vermin. That point alone is enough for me to side against them.
3) Finally, this is America and I am a supporter of freedom of expression (within limits). This clearly falls within that category. It isn't some burka-in-your-face kind of case where extremism meets every day society with some sort of overtly fascistic agenda. It's a cultural center run by a Mystic who isn't an enemy of the state. So why not allow him the same rights we allow everyone else?
I'll debate them on whether or not their God, or any God, exists - that's fine. But I won't be party to taking away the right for that debate even take place. These are not fanatics we are talking about who want to take over the country and the world with an open agenda of hatred and, quite frankly, the fact that they are opposed as if they were just goes to show people how downright fucking ignorant the opposition is about anything to do with Islam in general.
Sufis aren't the major problem in this world, and even were they Salafis it would be hard to justify restricting their rights over other religions.
So while not a fan of any more worship centers, I can't really oppose it. And the opposition forces me (somewhat reluctantly) to support it.
At least I have what people can call "morals" and "ethics" - granted to me without any direct intervention from a higher power or "holy book", might I point out.
I have to come clean on this issue because I don't think I've made my own particular view known before. And, as everyone knows here, I can be fairly contrarian at times. But in such cases, I have to explain my position.
So, here I go.
As an anti-theist, I would be really happy if there was one less house of any kind of worship in the world today. I know this doesn't really jive with most Americans, but there you have it. So, I'm not going to be one to hugely vocalize in favor of this building anyway, as I just think it's childish to worship things in the sky as it is.
However, a few things which put me squarely on the side of this blog's position:
1) The guy running this place is a Sufi Muslim. Sufis are basically mystics. They're generally about as un-fundamentalist as you can get in Islam. He's about the ideal of a "moderate Muslim" poster child as you can get. Being an anti-theist is one thing, but being is a realist is another. I'm against any religion growing right now, but I'll take what I can get. Sufism is by far preferable over Wahabbism any day of the week to me.
2) The leaders opposing this mosque are vermin. That point alone is enough for me to side against them.
3) Finally, this is America and I am a supporter of freedom of expression (within limits). This clearly falls within that category. It isn't some burka-in-your-face kind of case where extremism meets every day society with some sort of overtly fascistic agenda. It's a cultural center run by a Mystic who isn't an enemy of the state. So why not allow him the same rights we allow everyone else?
I'll debate them on whether or not their God, or any God, exists - that's fine. But I won't be party to taking away the right for that debate even take place. These are not fanatics we are talking about who want to take over the country and the world with an open agenda of hatred and, quite frankly, the fact that they are opposed as if they were just goes to show people how downright fucking ignorant the opposition is about anything to do with Islam in general.
Sufis aren't the major problem in this world, and even were they Salafis it would be hard to justify restricting their rights over other religions.
So while not a fan of any more worship centers, I can't really oppose it. And the opposition forces me (somewhat reluctantly) to support it.
At least I have what people can call "morals" and "ethics" - granted to me without any direct intervention from a higher power or "holy book", might I point out.
Thank you. =)
Summer: I'm with you. I am no fan of organized religion. I belong to no church. But getting into picking favored and disfavored churches is such an obviously bad path that I remain astonished that anyone wants to go there.
None of them violently attacked & killed Americans just because they were Americans
I'm pretty sure none of the Muslims involved in the Cordoba House have killed anyone.
It's amazing how the same people who scream constantly about their constitutional rights are so quick to demand stripping away the constitutional rights of others.
It's amazing how the same people who scream constantly about their constitutional rights are so quick to demand stripping away the constitutional rights of others.
That is what I have a hard time understanding... These jackasses scream about freedom on one hand, while the other is busy trying to block freedoms of others. I don't get it.
I wonder about racial identity...while I understand that it boils down to skin color, what about the cultural identity? I mean, is it all about who has the most white skin or does it necessarily include things like having the "right" religious faith as well? The more people I meet and interact with, the more I realize that skin color (or however you wish to define it) is the least important aspect of any given person - but it can be an issue too, given the right circumstance.
That is what I have a hard time understanding... These jackasses scream about freedom on one hand, while the other is busy trying to block freedoms of others. I don't get it.
nothing to get...it is what it is
potato heads...stick some new little plastic features in them, and they become someone else
I wonder about racial identity...while I understand that it boils down to skin color, what about the cultural identity? I mean, is it all about who has the most white skin or does it necessarily include things like having the "right" religious faith as well? The more people I meet and interact with, the more I realize that skin color (or however you wish to define it) is the least important aspect of any given person - but it can be an issue too, given the right circumstance.
skin color first...followed by religious affiliation
one step at a time comrade
Barring a major offensive that would garned little support at home or abroad, its what we're going to be stuck with. Best case scenario, we find a few warlords who just want to lord over their local fiefdoms and are willing to sellout and help us exterminate the rest of their hardliners.
Well that was the end of the Beck show..He says he thinks he is going blind in the next year...He showed a clip of him crying on stage because..He could never read again...It was pretty touching...
You know Glenn I have called you a clown from the rooftops..But I pray you never go Blind...I hope you are not cursed with no sight in the future...
Be well Glenn
None of them violently attacked & killed Americans just because they were Americans
Dude. People have killed Americans in the name of every crazy you can imagine. You really want to outlaw Islam? Yeesh. I have a few things on my to-do list today, but "become more like Saudi Arabia" wasn't one of them...
Barring a major offensive that would garned little support at home or abroad, its what we're going to be stuck with. Best case scenario, we find a few warlords who just want to lord over their local fiefdoms and are willing to sellout and help us exterminate the rest of their hardliners.
yes, create more turmoil in the name of political expediency...
we will not win this one bro...the writing is on the wall
Well that was the end of the Beck show..He says he thinks he is going blind in the next year...He showed a clip of him crying on stage because..He could never read again...It was pretty touching...
You know Glenn I have called you a clown from the rooftops..But I pray you never go Blind...I hope you are not cursed with no sight in the future...
Be well Glenn
Well that was the end of the Beck show..He says he thinks he is going blind in the next year...He showed a clip of him crying on stage because..He could never read again...It was pretty touching...
You know Glenn I have called you a clown from the rooftops..But I pray you never go Blind...I hope you are not cursed with no sight in the future...
Be well Glenn
He's not going blind. He just doesn't see the same number of people tuning in to see his show anymore. That's not blindness, it's called a drop in audience.
not a lot of atheist soup kitchens out there...we can demand high standards and behavior from our religions without papering over the immense amount of good they've done in this country.
not a lot of atheist soup kitchens out there...we can demand high standards and behavior from our religions without papering over the immense amount of good they've done in this country.
When I vote to extend WIC, I like to think of it as my agnostic soup kitchen.
not a lot of atheist soup kitchens out there...we can demand high standards and behavior from our religions without papering over the immense amount of good they've done in this country.
Summer: I'm with you. I am no fan of organized religion. I belong to no church. But getting into picking favored and disfavored churches is such an obviously bad path that I remain astonished that anyone wants to go there.
Same here. I'm not big on organized religion. I don't belong to a church or believe in a deity. The closest I get to any sort of spirituality is the time I spend meditating. I'm still in favor of the Cordoba House just because I think getting into the whole argument of which religions get to build and which ones don't is just a minefield. It's not worth it, IMO.
Well that was the end of the Beck show..He says he thinks he is going blind in the next year...He showed a clip of him crying on stage because..He could never read again...It was pretty touching...
You know Glenn I have called you a clown from the rooftops..But I pray you never go Blind...I hope you are not cursed with no sight in the future...
Be well Glenn
It's always vaguely cute when televangelists dabble in medicine.
Same here. I'm not big on organized religion. I don't belong to a church or believe in a deity. The closest I get to any sort of spirituality is the time I spend meditating. I'm still in favor of the Cordoba House just because I think getting into the whole argument of which religions get to build and which ones don't is just a minefield. It's not worth it, IMO.
it doesn't matter what the debate is about...it's the law, it must be built
They only recognize those rights for people like themselves. Anyone who doesn't fit into their neat little world is an "other" and isn't deemed worthy of those rights. =P
Well that was the end of the Beck show..He says he thinks he is going blind in the next year...He showed a clip of him crying on stage because..He could never read again...It was pretty touching...
You know Glenn I have called you a clown from the rooftops..But I pray you never go Blind...I hope you are not cursed with no sight in the future...
Be well Glenn
I hope he doesn't go blind either because I could easily see (no pun intended) Beck using his new found disability to promote his strange religious beliefs and becoming even more bizarre with his conspiracy theories.
Hm.
People in need are going to want WIC for nutrition needs.
But for those Christian people in need, come Christmastime, they're going to want the extras provided by churches. WIC doesn't provide Christmas presents for the kids.
America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You gotta want it bad, 'cause it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours. You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country can't just be a flag; the symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then, you can stand up and sing about the "land of the free".
Some don't get that. They think it is just for those who think and believe as they do.
I don't have a problem with it being built anyway. It's no skin off my back. In fact, I think it has its positives, since, as a community center for everyone it will allow people to draw clear distinctions between the more mainstream American Muslim population and the fanatics that flew planes into buildings.
The right-wing opposition to this is just silly, IMO. I think the community center goes a long way towards healing instead of reopening old wounds.
As long as I pay my share of taxes, it seems very much the same to me.
you're going to pay them anyway...it's not the same at all. donating the government's money is a lot easier than donating one's own. i'm talking about charity above and beyond taxes.
although you illustrate a very compelling point, on a large scale, about politics and taxation. generally speaking, across developed nations, private charitable giving is inversely related to tax rates.
True! Not saying WIC is 'enough' or anything, but rather that need is need, and the first goal should be meeting those needs.
I'm guessing that's not exactly controversial tho ;)
No, it isn't.
But there are lots of extras provided to people in need through church congregations; and I think it's unseemly to denigrate what church congregations are able to provide in supplement to government programs.
I hope he doesn't go blind either because I could easily see (no pun intended) Beck using his new found disability to promote his strange religious beliefs and becoming even more bizarre with his conspiracy theories.
If we strike him down he will rise more powerful than before!
But to your point..Doesn't Beck seem to be the perfect TV preacher except he talks about God and Religion in the same breathless sentence...
I mean he is like a Jim Baker on political steroids.. Praise Jesus! Glenn is going to save America from the Commies..
/Where have I heard that before?
although you illustrate a very compelling point, on a large scale, about politics and taxation. generally speaking, across developed nations, private charitable giving is inversely related to tax rates.
heh. don't make me use data to remind you how charity is highly correlated with religion. i'm not saying that there are NO atheist charities, of course. i'm just saying that it's easy to forget just how much good religious organizations have done in our country.
Article reads like a PR news release. Otherwise it's just a sales stunt. Get people to start buying junk in July to give away in December. That is the people that have any money or a foolish enough to buy it on credit.
But there are lots of extras provided to people in need through church congregations; and I think it's unseemly to denigrate what church congregations are able to provide in supplement to government programs.
I wouldn't denigrate them. I even take my hard hat off when the Habitat leaders offer a prayer.
heh. don't make me use data to remind you how charity is highly correlated with religion. i'm not saying that there are NO atheist charities, of course. i'm just saying that it's easy to forget just how much good religious organizations have done in our country.
to be honest, methinks they doth protest too much :)
notice in some of the links there are alot of lines like "I consider any charity not tied to any religion as atheist'.
I actually secretly agree with you, just was funny to realize what a sore point it apparently is :)
A lot of those extras also tend to be provided by unionized companies it seems like as well. The 5 local student unions, Canada Post, and the public transit system all run what seem to be the largest toy + Christmas dinner drives.
i know that you meant that lightly, and i appreciate the light tone. so without getting too serious, i do think that there's something far more personal to receiving something from a stranger who is giving it to you out of a spirit of love and kindness than receiving it from a cold government agency.
charities can never fully replace government assistance, of course, but at the same time...i think that we lose something when government assistance replaces charity. just being sentimental;)
I think we can agree that both are useful and build on each other, and that the needy (whatever that actually means :p) would be much worse off if either were gone :D
i know that you meant that lightly, and i appreciate the light tone. so without getting too serious, i do think that there's something far more personal to receiving something from a stranger who is giving it to you out of a spirit of love and kindness than receiving it from a cold government agency.
charities can never fully replace government assistance, of course, but at the same time...i think that we lose something when government assistance replaces charity. just being sentimental;)
I think we can agree that both are useful and build on each other, and that the needy (whatever that actually means :p) would be much worse off if either were gone :D
The thing that's especially irritating about this "Ground Zero mosque" idiocy is that there actually are a few Islamist organizations in the US that deserve criticism for a hidden extremist agenda. Sometimes not even very hidden.
The fools who rant about the Cordoba House -- which is one of the best examples of a real moderate Muslim group I've seen -- are delegitimizing all criticism of the real Islamist groups, and making it very easy to paint anyone who raises objections for REAL reasons as being just as crazy as Spencer and Geller and their followers.
In a weird self-defeating way, the Bigot Brigade actually makes it easier for the real Islamists to avoid detection.
The thing that's especially irritating about this "Ground Zero mosque" idiocy is that there actually are a few Islamist organizations in the US that deserve criticism for a hidden extremist agenda. Sometimes not even very hidden.
The fools who rant about the Cordoba House -- which is one of the best examples of a real moderate Muslim group I've seen -- are delegitimizing all criticism of the real Islamist groups, and making it very easy to paint anyone who raises objections for REAL reasons as being just as crazy as Spencer and Geller and their followers.
In a weird self-defeating way, the Bigot Brigade actually makes it easier for the real Islamists to avoid detection.
Another thing it's doing is delegitimizing moderate Mulsims and groups. Where is incentive if the response will by a high pitched hysterical shrill? No matter what they do, even if they're moderate, the pitch forked crowds will go out of their way to evaluate the persons background and manufacture controversy even when there is none. They'll even go as far as constantly saying "we don't really know about this person" which is tantamount to saying "all Muslims are guilty until proven innocent."
Not only that, but the Cordoba House is an organization that claims to want to advance a moderate view of Islam. In attacking it, we further reinforce the prejudices and anger of more extreme flavors of Islam. When we shit on the Sufis, does anybody really believe that this won't push some moderate Muslims further from a position of acceptance of the western world, and closer to the arms of extremist groups?
When i'm not so fucking poor, i'll be buying a cookbook from here.
Marry a smoking Hot Amish woman! She can cook like crazy and it doesn't matter to her how much money you have...I mean you don't even need electricity! Brother Bear..
ON a glorious summer morning a few weeks ago two United States Marines — one an active-duty reservist, one recently retired — paced around a light-filled warehouse on the Marine Corps base here, talking shop.
“Somebody who just knocks our socks off is Gerhard Richter,” said Michael D. Fay, a chief warrant officer before he left the corps last year. “We also love Basquiat.”
“When you talk about Basquiat, you run the risk of sounding like a paternalistic white guy,” pointed out his colleague Kristopher J. Battles, a sergeant who looks like he stepped out of a Norman Rockwell painting. But he couldn’t help enthusing, “There’s something intense and neo-expressionistic about him.”
Mr. Fay averred, “We know when something’s visually authentic.”
Not your everyday exchange at Quantico perhaps. But one in keeping with the mission these men have dedicated themselves to for the last several years: the Marine Corps combat art program, for which both have worked as artists, recording the experiences of their fellow Marines.
“We’re not here to do poster art or recruiting posters,” Sergeant Battles, 42, said. “What we are sent to do is to go to the experience, see what is really there and document it — as artists.”
The program is not the only one of its kind in the United States military, but many regard it as the one most deeply committed to its artistic mission. Like those in the other services, it began after the attack on Pearl Harbor and scaled back after Vietnam. Somewhat unusually, however, it has kept at least one artist in the reserves ready to deploy. And while most of the services have reactivated their art programs since the start of the Bush administration’s “global war on terror,” the Marine Corps’s has been the only one to cover most of the major conflicts.
Which helps explain why some of its supporters — most vocally Mr. Fay — are expressing concern about its future now that the program, which at its height in World War II had more than 70 artists, is down to just one full-time member, Sergeant Battles.
Marry a smoking Hot Amish woman! She can cook like crazy and it doesn't matter to her how much money you have...I mean you don't even need electricity! Brother Bear..
The thing that's especially irritating about this "Ground Zero mosque" idiocy is that there actually are a few Islamist organizations in the US that deserve criticism for a hidden extremist agenda. Sometimes not even very hidden.
The fools who rant about the Cordoba House -- which is one of the best examples of a real moderate Muslim group I've seen -- are delegitimizing all criticism of the real Islamist groups, and making it very easy to paint anyone who raises objections for REAL reasons as being just as crazy as Spencer and Geller and their followers.
In a weird self-defeating way, the Bigot Brigade actually makes it easier for the real Islamists to avoid detection.
No... in a very real, calculated way, this allows Spencer and Geller go right to the source of their hatreds, Islam in general.
Marry a smoking Hot Amish woman! She can cook like crazy and it doesn't matter to her how much money you have...I mean you don't even need electricity! Brother Bear..
Someday the makers of "Witness" will answer for their sins.
It doesn't matter to the beneficiaries of charity.
Food is food.
Churches don't just provide food.
Churches also provide a lot of extras at different times of the year - beginning of the school year, my church will provide school supplies to groups of students.
Christmas - Christmas gifts for families that cannot afford it.
Summer time - funding for summer camps.
Good grief. The gov't provides the food. Church congregations provide those oh-so-nice but unnecessary for basic survival, extras.
A lot of those extras also tend to be provided by unionized companies it seems like as well. The 5 local student unions, Canada Post, and the public transit system all run what seem to be the largest toy + Christmas dinner drives.
Yes, we used to do this at work as well. Provide a full meal with all the trimmings at Thanksgiving, and the gifts and the meal at Christmas, to a family in need.
But we could afford ONE. My church can provide for hundreds.
I still can't believe how much her and Tom Cruise fought on set during Top Gun..They hated each other..
The Love scenes must have been classic on set..
Yes, we used to do this at work as well. Provide a full meal with all the trimmings at Thanksgiving, and the gifts and the meal at Christmas, to a family in need.
But we could afford ONE. My church can provide for hundreds.
AND, we weren't even unionized! Just reg'lar folks
Yes, we used to do this at work as well. Provide a full meal with all the trimmings at Thanksgiving, and the gifts and the meal at Christmas, to a family in need.
But we could afford ONE. My church can provide for hundreds.
Good for you guys! Seriously, its one of the most rewarding things you can do. My point wasn't even about unions (look at the awesome amount of charity work fedex does, especially in getting aid to where it needs to be). Just that Church vs. Government is a totally false dichotomy.
OT ... There's a lot of bitchin' going on about the number of parties that the Obama's have.
I'll bet you that every big name who wants to play there, won't get to because of time constraints. I'm guessing the line is pretty long of "stars" (for lack of a better word) wanting to perform for the Obamas.
Hell, I'm guessing Madonna's willing to baby-sit the girls, just to hang out with them.
OT ... There's a lot of bitchin' going on about the number of parties that the Obama's have.
I'll bet you that every big name who wants to play there, won't get to because of time constraints. I'm guessing the line is pretty long of "stars" (for lack of a better word) wanting to perform for the Obamas.
Hell, I'm guessing Madonna's willing to baby-sit the girls, just to hang out with them.
I'm just sayin'.
I'd mow their lawn just to get a chance to talk to him.
OT ... There's a lot of bitchin' going on about the number of parties that the Obama's have.
I'll bet you that every big name who wants to play there, won't get to because of time constraints. I'm guessing the line is pretty long of "stars" (for lack of a better word) wanting to perform for the Obamas.
Hell, I'm guessing Madonna's willing to baby-sit the girls, just to hang out with them.
I'm just sayin'.
I'm guessing about 7/8ths of any POTUS' parties are work.
Good for you guys! Seriously, its one of the most rewarding things you can do. My point wasn't even about unions (look at the awesome amount of charity work fedex does, especially in getting aid to where it needs to be). Just that Church vs. Government is a totally false dichotomy.
No dichotomy here. I only wanted to point out that the "anti-theists" are as welcome to their beliefs as the rest of us, but slightly less welcome to gloss over all of the good that has been done in the name of a deity.
The thing that's especially irritating about this "Ground Zero mosque" idiocy is that there actually are a few Islamist organizations in the US that deserve criticism for a hidden extremist agenda. Sometimes not even very hidden.
The fools who rant about the Cordoba House -- which is one of the best examples of a real moderate Muslim group I've seen -- are delegitimizing all criticism of the real Islamist groups, and making it very easy to paint anyone who raises objections for REAL reasons as being just as crazy as Spencer and Geller and their followers.
In a weird self-defeating way, the Bigot Brigade actually makes it easier for the real Islamists to avoid detection.
Let's presume there may be some underlying nefarious component to Cordoba House.
The project is being built in NYC, a stones throw from the site of the 9/11 tragedy. Millions of New Yorkers are (justifiably) hyper sensitive about the event and will no doubt be that way for decades. Unlike past historical events, this was seen live and in real time by hundreds of millions of people.
Does anyone really believe that kind of environment will prove fertile ground for a hidden radical Islamist agenda? Does anyone believe that at the slightest provocation millions of New Yorkers will not come out and hold Cordoba House to account?
Let's say Cordoba House really does want to change the way Americans regard Israel. Is NYC, with nations largest population of Jews an ideal place to start? Does anyone really believe that America will abandon Israel in favor of brutal societies that sponsor racism, hate and bigotry? Does anyone at Cordoba House really believe that America will embrace the political ideologies that call for genocide?
Cordoba House is a place where moderate Muslims can me, gather and pray without having to worry about radicals poisoning their beliefs and threatening their lives. If along the way they can get the message out that not all Muslims are racists and bigots they will have done a good thing.
OT ... There's a lot of bitchin' going on about the number of parties that the Obama's have.
I'll bet you that every big name who wants to play there, won't get to because of time constraints. I'm guessing the line is pretty long of "stars" (for lack of a better word) wanting to perform for the Obamas.
Hell, I'm guessing Madonna's willing to baby-sit the girls, just to hang out with them.
I'm just sayin'.
he's got to cram 8 years of partying into 4...understandable
No dichotomy here. I only wanted to point out that the "anti-theists" are as welcome to their beliefs as the rest of us, but slightly less welcome to gloss over all of the good that has been done in the name of a deity.
Wait... wait... wait... I was sort of busy with some other comments and my network connect was slow, so I was looking into that... you mean I missed my chance at being a radical atheist and dump all over organized religion for being charitable... shit...
No dichotomy here. I only wanted to point out that the "anti-theists" are as welcome to their beliefs as the rest of us, but slightly less welcome to gloss over all of the good that has been done in the name of a deity.
Not complaint about that here, as long as the inverse is acknowledged as well.
Good for you guys! Seriously, its one of the most rewarding things you can do. My point wasn't even about unions (look at the awesome amount of charity work fedex does, especially in getting aid to where it needs to be). Just that Church vs. Government is a totally false dichotomy.
I can agree with that, but motive is different.
The got'v provides because we as a nation have decided we have certain obligations.
Churches provide because some members of the congregation have a desire to brighten a few lives.
Wait... wait... wait... I was sort of busy with some other comments and my network connect was slow, so I was looking into that... you mean I missed my chance at being a radical atheist and dump all over organized religion for being charitable... shit...
yep...the conversation is past us now...you'll have to try to hold it in until the next go-round.
No dichotomy here. I only wanted to point out that the "anti-theists" are as welcome to their beliefs as the rest of us, but slightly less welcome to gloss over all of the good that has been done in the name of a deity.
My former boss (as of today!) and now mentor/friend once dated an Englishman. She said his mind and his manner were the best she'd known. She once said his understated, nonverbal kindness "made every interaction feel like Odysseus' homecoming" She has family friends over there that she praises routinely, she's really into ancient history and philosophy, says the only people with enough of an education to discuss it intelligently have an English education. Must be something to it.
I can agree with that, but motive is different.
The got'v provides because we as a nation have decided we have certain obligations.
Churches provide because some members of the congregation have a desire to brighten a few lives.
And businesses and unions, etc. - I should have said organizations provide out of a desire to brighten a few lives.
I can agree with that, but motive is different.
The got'v provides because we as a nation have decided we have certain obligations.
Churches provide because some members of the congregation have a desire to brighten a few lives.
You're still missing my point. I agree the motive of government is different. But the motive of my secular, largely socialist student union (what? Its a university, don't act shocked ;-)) is more like your church than the government.
She asked peace-loving Muslims to refudiate/repudiate/refuse/whatever the building of a Sufi community center in Manhattan, who's imam is a 20+ year resident of the neighborhood.
She characterized as a stab to the heart. And to the heartland.
Yes, what she actually said was far more dangerous, bigoted, and irresponsible than the way she said it.
Spielberg and Cruise were in VA for the filming of "Mars Attacks", oh, I mean "War of the Worlds".
They stopped in a Dairy Queen and IIRC left I life changing tip for a waitress.
Not a Tom fan (in general) but, that was cool.
That was a great remake of the original.. I don't know why so many people had a problem with that film... I think it was great and have watched it at least 5 times... the only problem with that story itself is the ending doesn't lend itself to a movie style climax, so, the ending never will work on film unless someone changes the ending, which would be wrong... but other than the ending, I liked the movie, and Cruise in this case (normally don't like him)... he came across as more of a helpless Joe, not the hero. I liked that portrayal, it made the movie so much more scary... helpless feeling, and not a stupid conclusion like saving the universe with an Apple lap top.
She walked away from her business today. Moving to the East Coast, taking off for Africa for six weeks in late fall. Had our morning meeting and she told me: "I'm done. Take the business." Didn't take a penny, paid herself nothing for the last six months. Just. Gave. Me. The. Business.
Signed the papers, did the banking, it's signed sealed & delivered!
No dichotomy here. I only wanted to point out that the "anti-theists" are as welcome to their beliefs as the rest of us, but slightly less welcome to gloss over all of the good that has been done in the name of a deity.
Thanks. It's amazing. She's amazing. All about good things. She's been quiet and sad lately, I never asked why. She signed a book deal, so I am just wishing her good things. She deserves it. Gave me every client, intro'd me to everyone this morning. I'm hyped!
Tactical Wolf Nukes
originated in Russia, and work like a dream...you kill the wolf AND eliminate any reason for it to be somewhere in the first place...a twofer
so how else would you kill wolves?
any suggestions?
it's not the killing, it's the catching...i'm with you - at least from a helicopter, you have to pull off a great shot. ambushing or trapping seems a lot less sporting, although it's more carbon-friendly. hmmm. conflicting moralities...
it's not the killing, it's the catching...i'm with you - at least from a helicopter, you have to pull off a great shot. ambushing or trapping seems a lot less sporting, although it's more carbon-friendly. hmmm. conflicting moralities...
it's dirty business, but it has to be done...people ragging about shooting wolves from choppers have no clue I guess...lot of that going around
ahahaha you're talking to the wrong guy, he's actually quite outdoorsy/eagle-scouty
*I* an the guy who stays indoors :D
you cannot be held responsible for who you are, when others decide for you...any land or property I've ever owned I worked for and paid for it with my own mojo...I inherited nothing, and it says a lot for those that do
Thanks. What's funny, is I just came back to work for her after several years. She was the first person to take a chance on me. She's always been hardcore but really generous, and so warm behind closed doors. She's ethical to a fault. I work really hard for her because I really feel inspired.
She donates time to clients, just to keep them on their feet. I've watched her front ad-buys, printing costs, a lot. I just hope I can live up to the standards our my clients have grown to expect.
Politico's latest poll shows a disappointing result IMHO. I just paged it. By far most who responded oppose the center. What a lost opportunity, a darn shame.
If you ran the same poll here would we get a different result? I think you would get a better result, but I'm just speculating.
you obviously have never seen me play ping-pong, or you'd have used a different analogy...fear the paddle, dude...
maybe you missed the factoid that the post was not in response to you...DOH!...I can play the game as good as anybody around here, you don't scare me...bring it on pong breath
He'd be the asshole that lights the giant wooden statue on fire two days ahead of schedule, and I'd be the asshole that hands him the gas can and matches.
Who knew she'd be tested this hard, this young. But, I am amazingly proud of her.
I tried to scare my kids with "Return of the Living Dead" complete with popping in like a zombie asking for "MORE BRAINS!". The next day, they had the neighbor kids playing gang versus zombies where the zombies always won.
maybe you missed the factoid that the post was not in response to you...DOH!...I can play the game as good as anybody around here, you don't scare me...bring it on pong breath
i didn't miss that it wasn't a response to me...i just didn't let it stop me from hijacking the post...
and if i'm ever in ABQ, i expect you to be honest to the rest of LGF about how i beat you like a circus mule...
George Washington once said, “The Constitution is the guide which I never will abandon.”
[...]
I called for a Tea Party Caucus to bring members’ attention to the cries of everyday Americans who are asking for a return to the fundamental principles contained within our nation’s greatest document, the Constitution.
[...]
And I have talked to many people who felt discouraged because no one in Washington, D.C. seemed willing to listen. This caucus will change that sentiment and ensure the voices of the people are carried through the halls of Congress.
your trolling again...disagreement is not trolling, but accusing others of trolling is trolling and you are brazenly guilty
Shit, I didn't even think we disagreed. I was going to say that inheriting doesn't mean jack shit either way, its what you do with it. But (I think) you posted almost the same thing in your reply to me.
These are the same people who claim to worship the Constitution while at the same time want to prohibit one group from exercising their religion in downtown NYC.
These are the same people who claim to worship the Constitution while at the same time want to prohibit one group from exercising their religion in downtown NYC.
there is no debate, the debate is fictional...a way to get on TV
So much people have the same basic story. "Watched a horror movie very young when my parents weren't looking. Scarred me for life."
Anyway, Alien for me.
An OB/GYN I know, whose wife is also an OB/GYN, just watched Alien with his four kids all under 13. When the alien burst out, the nine year old shrugged and said she figured a C-section was probably indicated.
Here we see the government worried about the same thing the Roi has been worried about, but apparently they are bowing to pressure from BP to leave the cap on. Not a good decision, IMO.
But the government is worried that the cap on the well is causing oil and gas to leak out elsewhere, which could make the sea floor unstable and cause the well to collapse. That's why federal officials want to pump the crude to ships on the surface. That would require opening the well for a few days to relieve pressure before the pipes could be hooked up, letting millions more gallons of oil spill out in the interim.
And here we see BP backing off their original commitment to remove the cap after the "integrity test" (which was a bad thing for the formation, and not necessary to capture the flowing oil), and leave the cap on until the relief well is finished.
Instead, the two sides have spent the past two days disagreeing over what to do with the undersea machinery holding back the gusher.
"We had some concerns ... about commitments that BP had made that we did not feel that they were adequately living up to in terms of that monitoring," said White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said. "That was dealt with last night on a call that lasted late into the evening."
The apparent disagreement began to sprout Saturday when Allen said the cap would eventually be hooked up to a mile-long pipe to pump the crude to ships on the surface. But early the next day, BP chief operating officer Doug Suttles said the cap should stay clamped shut to keep in the oil until a permanent fix
I'm dying in the mid 90s. Just not built for heat, I thrive in cold... I'm tempted to barricade myself inside the walk in beer fridge at the liquor store.
I'm dying in the mid 90s. Just not built for heat, I thrive in cold... I'm tempted to barricade myself inside the walk in beer fridge at the liquor store.
hey...I love skiing, never too cold for that, never...ask Darth
"To suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous liberals, or to quit halfterm, and by opposing, rake in speaking fees" -Shakespalin
heh...that's how you do it these days...talk yourself into the nomination, and when she debates BO, the victimization will be so thick you will cut it with a butter knife
It's a common thing in cats. It depends what the source is whether or not it's treatable. It might be hypertension, it might be enlargement of the heart.
Little dude hates taking pills with a passion, though.
With animals, it's such a different analysis about whether to treat or not, because it's a quality of life issue. The heart murmur doesn't cause him pain or otherwise affect him right now; it might cause a crisis later. Is it worthwhile to give him pills, which he hates and gags on and sulks for hours after you give him them, to prevent a potential crisis?
We'll have to think on it. Poor little dude. He's in the catnip now, his reward for a vet visit.
We have an older feline 17, little tiny female. She needs tapizole twice a day for a thyroid thing. We have it emulsified with tuna and we put the little dose (a no needle syringe to measure the liquid) in with cat food/gravy, just 1/2 tsp. After she laps that up she gets the "real" meal. That is how you give a cat a pill. You give a pharmacist a few bucks instead. :-)> A buck a day or so all totaled up.
I built one from home depot parts a few years ago. I think the cost was around 80 bucks. I posted instructions on how to build one here on lgf a long time ago. I could try to dig up the link sometime if you're interested.
It's a common thing in cats. It depends what the source is whether or not it's treatable. It might be hypertension, it might be enlargement of the heart.
Little dude hates taking pills with a passion, though.
With animals, it's such a different analysis about whether to treat or not, because it's a quality of life issue. The heart murmur doesn't cause him pain or otherwise affect him right now; it might cause a crisis later. Is it worthwhile to give him pills, which he hates and gags on and sulks for hours after you give him them, to prevent a potential crisis?
We'll have to think on it. Poor little dude. He's in the catnip now, his reward for a vet visit.
Ah poor thing. I've had so many kitties with various diseases/ailments. Currently our orange puss has some weird parasite skin thing that covers his belly, his paws, his nose, even in his mouth. He needs monthly cortizone shots which run about $30/mo. Whoopie...
Can you crush the pills and put them in the food? I've had pretty good luck giving pills. You start to pet them, scratch their heads, and slowly stick your finger in the back of their mouth where the top meets the bottom of their lips/mouth. They automatically open their mouths, then you just slide the pill in. Close and hold their mouths closed until they swallow which they do pretty quickly. Well, it gets easier the more you do it. Works better on dogs.
heh...that's how you do it these days...talk yourself into the nomination, and when she debates BO, the victimization will be so thick you will cut it with a butter knife
This "refudiate" stuff is just the old Palin strategy of lowering expectations.
Remember the debate with Biden, when people said she was going to be crushed and then they were all like AMAZING SHE CAN TALK AND BLINK AT THE SAME TIME, WHAT A FEAT, BIDEN SURE IS FUCKED NOW.
We had this old tom when I was a kid that was really 100% outdoor cat, but my tiny little boogedy rexes, they're as indoor as indoor gets, they're like tiny novelty cats, they're adults but the size of kittens :D
The video does nothing of the sort, though. It shows someone who, dealing with a rude customer, thinks race may be an issue in why the person she's dealing with is being rude, so doesn't go out on any limbs for him and finds him a white person to deal with to possibly alleviate the problem.
cat's are outdoor creatures...indoor/outdoor at best...they need to hunt, kill and bask in the sun...keeping a cat indoors it's entire life is cruel
I agree with you, but around here, it's too urban so they get run over a lot. The last place I rented became a little animal graveyard. Possoms, racoons, a few cats. It's not good for them to be outside here.
Just make sure he has Forza 3 and an Xbox, he'll be fine :D
Xbox ,, CHECK
GameCube,,CHECK
Wii,,, Check
DS ,,Check
GameBoy ,, CHECK
PSP,,, Check
mini Fridge in room ,, CHECK
With any luck, he won't need anything else until he moves out ,,, IF he moves out!
I agree with you, but around here, it's too urban so they get run over a lot. The last place I rented became a little animal graveyard. Possoms, racoons, a few cats. It's not good for them to be outside here.
then don't bring them into that environment...they're cats
We had this old tom when I was a kid that was really 100% outdoor cat, but my tiny little boogedy rexes, they're as indoor as indoor gets, they're like tiny novelty cats, they're adults but the size of kittens :D
When I was a kid all our cats were indoor/outdoor. Even in urban southern California they did damage to the wildlife (birds and lizards.) My two rescue mutt kitties are totally indoor cats (with one thirty second escape two years ago). They are litter mates, and chase each other around the house, so they get lots of exercise.
I'm not understanding what's even going on, she does sound rather unpleasant about it. Judging by a source known for it's unscrupulous audio in erm, questionable "sting operations", and also judging by the blaring Fox News front page...
Xbox ,, CHECK
GameCube,,CHECK
Wii,,, Check
DS ,,Check
GameBoy ,, CHECK
PSP,,, Check
mini Fridge in room ,, CHECK
With any luck, he won't need anything else until he moves out ,,, IF he moves out!
I had two kids...from early childhood they understood that 18 was the end of the line...you will GO AWAY to college...they did and loved every minute of college life
Meaning either cars or predators are at work in our part of the world. I wish I had the space and the safety for our cats to be outside, but that is not the case. They get to chase each other and lay around with me. I hope that is enough.
then don't bring them into that environment...they're cats
Tell that to the people who insist on dumping them here. I've had about 10 cats in the last 16 years. All were dumped. People think it's better for them than taking them to the Humane Society. So poor suckers like me have to spend a fortune on food and healthcare and then bury them or scrap them off the road. Don't get me started... The Humane Society, if there aren't any no-kill shelters, is where they belong. Not the streets.
Meaning either cars or predators are at work in our part of the world. I wish I had the space and the safety for our cats to be outside, but that is not the case. They get to chase each other and lay around with me. I hope that is enough.
Yeah. My comment had absolutely nothing to do with any of the stuff you are talking about, in this reply or the other one. Hence "Does not compute".
Days after the NAACP clashed with Tea Party members over racism allegations, video surfaces showing USDA official regaling an NAACP group with story about how she withheld help to a white farmer facing bankruptcy — video that now has forced her to resign.
This is USDA official that resigned. Not the NAACP right?
When I was a kid all our cats were indoor/outdoor. Even in urban southern California they did damage to the wildlife (birds and lizards.) My two rescue mutt kitties are totally indoor cats (with one thirty second escape two years ago). They are litter mates, and chase each other around the house, so they get lots of exercise.
Xbox ,, CHECK
GameCube,,CHECK
Wii,,, Check
DS ,,Check
GameBoy ,, CHECK
PSP,,, Check
mini Fridge in room ,, CHECK
With any luck, he won't need anything else until he moves out ,,, IF he moves out!
hahah christ alive, the only reason he doesn't have more game systems than me is I've still held onto (or rebought) the old ones I had from when I was a kid. I used to be that kid with the multiple computers and game systems, now I have no time to play anything but the one racing game I have and the occasional plastic musical instrument game XD
I had two kids...from early childhood they understood that 18 was the end of the line...you will GO AWAY to college...they did and loved every minute of college life
Oh I didn't need to be convinced to go away for school, I was SO ready
Wasn't much of a partyer in college. I was boooring
cats hunt...if that disturbs people they should not own a cat...my pleasure from owning cats was that they were all seriously independent...it is their nature, unless you have some hybred, clawless indoor creature...how about a cat lobotomy?...just lay in your lap all day, getting fat...those are not cats, they are unnatural fabrications to suit the lifestyle of their selfish owners
hahah christ alive, the only reason he doesn't have more game systems than me is I've still held onto (or rebought) the old ones I had from when I was a kid. I used to be that kid with the multiple computers and game systems, now I have no time to play anything but the one racing game I have and the occasional plastic musical instrument game XD
My 16 year old has the following:
Xbox
Xbox360
PS2
PSP
Nintendo 64
Sega Dreamcast
Sega Game Gear
Gamecube
computer - dedicated server for TeamFortress2
Gaming computer w/3 19 inch monitors on a single mount
gaming laptop
all bought with his own money...
The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree...
That's nice. My cat is de-clawed, and that is the way we adopted her from the pound. I would never subject any cat to de-clawing, and find that terrible. From what the pound said, they are harder to adopt. So we adopted her.
Looks like Breitbart is already covering. Just as with the Tea Party, one racist doesn't make the NAACP racist, but this feeds right into the crazy.
She's relating a story of how she viewed things in her past. If you watching (listen) to the video you'll note that she says it was at the time when Chapter 12 bankruptcy had just been enacted. This would put the year at 1986. The video is incomplete. However, it does have enough to learn more about her speech since it ends with her saying "that when it was revealed to me that it's about [being] poor, versus those who have. It's not so much about white... it is about white and black but it's not, you know... it opened my eyes." She learned from that experience to see that it isn't about being black or white, it's about being poor.
hahah christ alive, the only reason he doesn't have more game systems than me is I've still held onto (or rebought) the old ones I had from when I was a kid. I used to be that kid with the multiple computers and game systems, now I have no time to play anything but the one racing game I have and the occasional plastic musical instrument game XD
hahaha well, he's got two insane rexes for friends, and I'm around constantly! :D
He's a terrible hunter, though. He is AFRAID OF SPIDERS.
Who ever heard of a damn cat scared of spiders?
I jest, sort of...all cats get my attention regardless of their favorite TV show...I still dig them...but a scappy, independent, outdoor cat is a thing to behold
That's nice. My cat is de-clawed, and that is the way we adopted her from the pound. I would never subject any cat to de-clawing, and find that terrible. From what the pound said, they are harder to adopt. So we adopted her.
I jest, sort of...all cats get my attention regardless of their favorite TV show...I still dig them...but a scappy, independent, outdoor cat is a thing to behold
I would love to let Alfie roam the great outdoors... but there are cars about, and very large hawks that regularly haul off groundhogs. I fear he wouldn't last too long being the color of a pumpkin and all.
That's nice. My cat is de-clawed, and that is the way we adopted her from the pound. I would never subject any cat to de-clawing, and find that terrible. From what the pound said, they are harder to adopt. So we adopted her.
Declawing is the worst. It's like removing your finger at the knuckle. It's mutilation.
cats hunt...if that disturbs people they should not own a cat...my pleasure from owning cats was that they were all seriously independent...it is their nature, unless you have some hybred, clawless indoor creature...how about a cat lobotomy?...just lay in your lap all day, getting fat...those are not cats, they are unnatural fabrications to suit the lifestyle of their selfish owners
I would love to let Alfie roam the great outdoors... but there are cars about, and very large hawks that regularly haul off groundhogs. I fear he wouldn't last too long being the color of a pumpkin and all.
sounds like he'd make a fine jack-o-lantern...
you made me say it
no, I get a cat and it goes about it's business being a cat...I'm a suburban/country boy...I would never have a pet living in an apartment...maybe a turtle
I am late to the converstion due to hand surgery tomorrow, but in the building of this center/mosque I might feel a little more friendly toward it if the opening was not on the 10 anny of 9-11. I think picking that date shows something. But then if the place doesn't matter why should the date
I am late to the converstion due to hand surgery tomorrow, but in the building of this center/mosque I might feel a little more friendly toward it if the opening was not on the 10 anny of 9-11. I think picking that date shows something. But then if the place doesn't matter why should the date
An old friend of mine once caught me flat footed two years ago. Right after she was nominated, we riding around on a golf cart and out of the blue he says "So what do you think about Sarah? Isn't she great?" I should have expected it, he's a wonderful man, really active in church and a high school. But I thought he was smart. He was actually brilliant, once upon a time. Designed electronic systems for the Navy. Department head for a major defense contractor. (Is this my future, to go from a genius to a blithering idiot by the time I'm 65?) Well I almost crashed the cart. I don't bring up Sarah, I'm afraid he might still be smitten. I just can't believe there are that many Stupid people out there. I mean, I know there's the infamous Bell Curve, but JFC, she's an idiot! And her worshippers think everybody else is afraid of her. Can't they hear the laughter? (Wasn't that a sappy movie line?)
Tom Mendelsohn of The Independent hasn't mentioned or credited you once in his blog post. Nor has he bothered to even rename the screenshot he nicked from you. ftr.
Satt, can you please make sure I get my satellite feed right down here to my basement? I need to see the rest of the world. K?ThnxBai
Sure
Step 1,, straighten out a wire coat hanger
Step 2,,,ball a glob of tin foil on the end
Step 3,, stick it out the window, tin foil side outside
Step 4,,, point it to the equator, and depending on the satellite desired hold it anywhere from 12 degrees to 45 degrees above the horizon
Step 5 ,, send me a blank check for desired channels
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