Breitbart Says: I Didn’t Edit the Tape, Shirley Sherrod is Still a Racist and So Is the NAACP

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Andrew Breitbart now says he didn’t edit the videotape of Shirley Sherrod’s NAACP speech, but that it was already edited when he received it. And of course, he’s not backing down on his claim that it shows Sherrod to be a “racist,” even though he must now be aware that Sherrod was telling a story about how she overcame unconscious racism. He must also be aware that the white farmer and his wife who were the subjects of Sherrod’s story have come forth and said she saved their farm, praised her effusively, and utterly denied she was a racist.

Nonetheless, Breitbart is still saying things like this:

“I think the video speaks for itself,” he said. “The way she’s talking about white people … is conveying a present tense racism in my opinion. But racism is in the eye of the beholder.”

He also takes issue with how the audience, many of them members of the NAACP, respond positively to her comments — proof, he says, of prevalent racism.

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82 comments
1 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:48:10pm

Can I call it or what? “I didn’t edit the video, that’s how it was when I got it!”

Yeah, Andy, and I bet it fell off the back of a truck too. *rolls his eyes*

2 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:48:22pm

And the real tape will quickly put a lie to that. As will the words of the farmers she helped.

People like you Charles need to keep the word out there. Perhaps the truth can win. Here’s hoping.

3 windsagio  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:48:43pm

Most disgusting and transparent transferrence you can have.

Look at your own self Andy!

4 Kragar  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:48:48pm

Breitbart, you ignorant slut

5 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:49:16pm

““The way she’s talking about white people … is conveying a present tense racism in my opinion.” I guess we can now say Andrew Breitbart is indisputably anti-semantic….

6 TedStriker  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:50:53pm

re: #4 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Breitbart, you ignorant slut

Yup…ol’ Andrew has decided to double down on this and go all-in. I really hope he gets his ass reamed on this…

7 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:51:03pm

So if Breitbart didn’t edit the tape, then who did?

8 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:51:22pm

Breitbart is sticking with the Big Lie. I think he and the other wingnut race-baiters have won this battle, but they haven’t the war.

Sooner or later, probably sooner, Fox or Breitbart or one of the others will have a “Rather moment” they can’t weasel out of. We will be here to pounce when they do.

9 webevintage  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:51:26pm

and then he stuck out his tongue and said “so THERE you poo poo heads!”….

10 windsagio  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:51:43pm

re: #7 Spare O’Lake

The same person who was actually behind O’Keefe.

11 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:52:13pm

re: #2 LudwigVanQuixote

And the real tape will quickly put a lie to that. As will the words of the farmers she helped.

People like you Charles need to keep the word out there. Perhaps the truth can win. Here’s hoping.

Nah, once the full video is released, they’ll progress to picking it apart piece by piece, cherry-picking words, phrases, and clapping from the audience as “proof” that Breitbart was right and this is a black audience applauding a black woman for admitting she’s racist towards white people.

And that will continue until the next “outrageous outrage” that AB or one of his fellow travelers drums up next.

12 Kragar  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:52:20pm

Breitbart went on to say of the video “It tastes like burning!”

13 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:52:33pm

re: #7 Spare O’Lake

So if Breitbart didn’t edit the tape, then who did?


Breitbart, duh.
He’s a lying POS.
9_9

14 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:52:51pm

re: #10 windsagio

The same person who was actually behind O’Keefe.

Karl Rove?

///

15 Political Atheist  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:53:17pm

What an unrepentant bastard.

I repeat my call on President Obama to whip out the executive pen and order pad. Save this woman’s job. Declare the resignation null. Apologize for her boss’s gaping lack of judgment, and get her back to work for people who obviously appreciate her.

Then have Gibbs get out there and give Brietbart a tongue lashing that the media will gasp at for a week.

Actually I think I’ll take a hint from Obdicut and email a less terse version to the White House. Anyone else want to “sign” it ?

Show the full video Gibbs!

(yeah, yeah I wanted a pony too) :)

16 harlequinade  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:53:38pm

re: #7 Spare O’Lake

Either Old Man Withers from the fairground. Or Breitbart is a lying sack o’shite.

But I’m not sure which, yet. If only we had a talking dog /

17 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:55:33pm

re: #7 Spare O’Lake

So if Breitbart didn’t edit the tape, then who did?

Teach the Controversy

18 Kefirah  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:57:26pm

“racism is in the eye of the beholder?”

is he really trying to argue that racism is subjective? maybe in his deluded dreams, but i am sure that factually i can say that kkk lynchings, segregated lunch counters, and gas chambers are all objectively racist.

so a man who likely fights tooth and nail against “moral relativism” [i strongly dislike moral relativism, personally] will say that racism is relative?

ow. doublespeak, newspeak. ow.

19 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:58:28pm

From the link:

The Sherrod video is, he said, “way more evidence of racism than anything that the mainstream media and TPM and all of the rest of you Spencer Ackerman friends provided to prove that the tea party was racist.”

From the end of the link:

[Ed. note: By way of transparency, Spencer Ackerman, currently a writer on national security issues at Wired’s Danger Room blog, wrote for Talking Points Memo in 2007 and generally covered national security issues. In referring to Ackerman, Breitbart was apparently referring to the Journolist controversy from today.]

I believe another Killgore prediction has just come true.

Brietbart claims he doesn’t have the unedited speech and can’t find it. On to the Journolist scandal!
20 Obdicut  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:58:54pm

re: #18 Kefirah

Very good point. That sort of relatavism is exactly what the white supremacists practice. Even the ‘everyone’s racist, we’re just honest’ kind.

21 windsagio  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 2:58:57pm

re: #18 Kefirah

Its just the same thing; The lack of self-knowledge to ever admit any of their own faults. It HAS to be the other guys’ doing!

22 Jerk  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:00:27pm

If all goes as planned, the White House will apologize, the media will realize that they have all been duped, and Breitbart will get the most shit. Fingers are crossed.

23 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:02:23pm

re: #18 Kefirah

“racism is in the eye of the beholder?”

is he really trying to argue that racism is subjective? maybe in his deluded dreams, but i am sure that factually i can say that kkk lynchings, segregated lunch counters, and gas chambers are all objectively racist.

so a man who likely fights tooth and nail against “moral relativism” [i strongly dislike moral relativism, personally] will say that racism is relative?

ow. doublespeak, newspeak. ow.

I think we need to teach the Lizardim who are not Tribe members a new word for Breitbart.

Breitbart is a Mamzer.

Now this word gets politely translated as bastard. It does not mean bastard. If you mom and dad were unmarried at the time they had you, you are not a mazer.

A mamzer is the product of a forbidden union - one that comes from adultery or incest.

I am fully willing to believe that scum like Breitbart is what you get when brothers and sisters bang each other for several generations.

24 palomino  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:02:48pm

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel

Breitbart is sticking with the Big Lie. I think he and the other wingnut race-baiters have won this battle, but they haven’t the war.

Sooner or later, probably sooner, Fox or Breitbart or one of the others will have a “Rather moment” they can’t weasel out of. We will be here to pounce when they do.

I hope you’re right. But I’m afraid a “Rather moment” will be difficult in the case of Breitbart. CBS and Rather professed high journalistic standards, which they clearly violated with the memos on W’s natl guard service. Breitbart doesn’t even try to follow such standards, nor does he have network execs to whom he is accountable. So there’s unlikely to be an accountability moment for the likes of Breitbart.

25 windsagio  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:03:15pm

re: #23 LudwigVanQuixote

Funny but not useful :p

We should be continually insulting him for the truly loathsome things he is, not letting him off by blaming his parentage ;)

26 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:04:23pm

re: #25 windsagio

Funny but not useful :p

We should be continually insulting him for the truly loathsome things he is, not letting him off by blaming his parentage ;)

It’s a cultural thing. Mamzer is the big guns when it comes to insults.

27 Kefirah  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:05:00pm

re: #23 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #25 windsagio


breitbart IS a mamzer in the sense that his ideas are the product of an adulterous [although all.too.frequent] union between hate and stupidity.

28 windsagio  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:05:01pm

re: #26 LudwigVanQuixote

I’m just being today’s pedantic jerk :D

29 windsagio  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:05:22pm

re: #27 Kefirah

re: #25 windsagio

breitbart IS a mamzer in the sense that his ideas are the product of an adulterous [although all.too.frequent] union between hate and stupidity.

Lord that was good. You guys totally win! :D

30 albusteve  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:05:54pm

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel

Breitbart is sticking with the Big Lie. I think he and the other wingnut race-baiters have won this battle, but they haven’t the war.

Sooner or later, probably sooner, Fox or Breitbart or one of the others will have a “Rather moment” they can’t weasel out of. We will be here to pounce when they do.

there is already plenty of evidence that if you ignore the truth, a few people will be on to you….repeat the lie and droves of droolers will buy what you sell….the truth is on vacation

31 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:06:48pm

re: #27 Kefirah

re: #25 windsagio

breitbart IS a mamzer in the sense that his ideas are the product of an adulterous [although all.too.frequent] union between hate and stupidity.

And a three way with arrogance.

32 windsagio  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:06:52pm

re: #27 Kefirah

Wait, between hate and stupidity, which one wears the pants?

33 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:07:13pm

Breitbart’s claim that he didn’t have the unedited tape is consistent with his claim that he did not edit the tape. He later said he would produce the unedited version if he could get permission.
Is it not possible that he received the tape in its edited state?
Let’s not get fooled again!

34 Big Steve  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:07:48pm

In my experience of having had to fire people, when someone does something seemingly outrageous and they are sacked immediately, there is always something else going on. Usually it is a person that their bosses have been trying to get rid of for a while and they are presented a situation to effect it immediately. If someone is well thought of, their boss, in this case the USDA, tries to figure out how to keep them.

35 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:08:16pm

re: #33 Spare O’Lake

Breitbart’s claim that he didn’t have the unedited tape is consistent with his claim that he did not edit the tape. He later said he would produce the unedited version if he could get permission.
Is it not possible that he received the tape in its edited state?
Let’s not get fooled again!

Why are you defending this fucker?

36 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:09:07pm

re: #33 Spare O’Lake

I’d sooner trust in the existence of the tooth fairy than believe anything Breadbasket says.

37 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:09:19pm

re: #33 Spare O’Lake

Breitbart’s claim that he didn’t have the unedited tape is consistent with his claim that he did not edit the tape. He later said he would produce the unedited version if he could get permission.
Is it not possible that he received the tape in its edited state?
Let’s not get fooled again!

Believe Breitbart once, shame on Brietbart, believe him twice, shame on you.

38 windsagio  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:09:50pm

re: #35 LudwigVanQuixote

probably because he’s been so behind breitbart for other things, if the guy is a lying racist scumbag, where does that leave his supporters?

39 Gus  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:10:08pm

New NAACP statement.

[Link: www.naacp.org…]

40 webevintage  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:10:10pm

re: #33 Spare O’Lake

Breitbart’s claim that he didn’t have the unedited tape is consistent with his claim that he did not edit the tape. He later said he would produce the unedited version if he could get permission.
Is it not possible that he received the tape in its edited state?

and pigs fly out of my ass on full moons….

41 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:10:11pm

re: #33 Spare O’Lake

Breitbart’s claim that he didn’t have the unedited tape is consistent with his claim that he did not edit the tape. He later said he would produce the unedited version if he could get permission.
Is it not possible that he received the tape in its edited state?
Let’s not get fooled again!

ermmm…if you receive an edited tape and only later find out that it’s edited and was miraculously edited in a manner that distorts the subject matter, don’t you apologize?

lack of apology = all the proof you needed, although looking for more proof of AB’s dishonesty is like looking for more proof that the earth revolves around the sun…

42 windsagio  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:10:21pm

re: #37 jamesfirecat

Believe Breitbart once, shame on Brietbart, believe him twice, shame on you.

43 RadicalModerate  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:10:46pm

From the looks of things on this thread and the ones downstairs, Brietbart’s dogwhistle still works just fine, facts be damned.

44 Gus  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:11:13pm

NAACP Statement on the Resignation of Shirley Sherrod | Press Room | NAACP

Statement on the Resignation of Shirley Sherrod
July 20, 2010

(BALTIMORE, MD) - NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous issued the following statement today after a careful investigation into the presentation of former USDA Official Shirley Sherrod.

“The NAACP has a zero tolerance policy against racial discrimination, whether practiced by blacks, whites, or any other group.

The NAACP also has long championed and embraced transformation by people who have move beyond racial bias. Most notably, we have done so for late Alabama Governor George Wallace and late US Senator Robert Byrd — each a man who had associated with and supported white supremacists and their cause before embracing civil rights for all.

With regard to the initial media coverage of the resignation of USDA Official Shirley Sherrod, we have come to the conclusion we were snookered by Fox News and Tea Party Activist Andrew Breitbart into believing she had harmed white farmers because of racial bias.

Having reviewed the full tape, spoken to Ms. Sherrod, and most importantly heard the testimony of the white farmers mentioned in this story, we now believe the organization that edited the documents did so with the intention of deceiving millions of Americans.

The fact is Ms. Sherrod did help the white farmers mentioned in her speech. They personally credit her with helping to save their family farm.

Moreover, this incident and the lesson it prompted occurred more that 20 years before she went to work for USDA.

Finally, she was sharing this account as part of a story of transformation and redemption. In the full video, Ms.Sherrod says she realized that the dislocation of farmers is about “haves and have nots.” “It’s not just about black people, it’s about poor people,” says Sherrod in the speech. “We have to get to the point where race exists but it doesn’t matter.”

This is a teachable moment, for activists and for journalists.

Most Americans agree that racism has no place in American Society. We also believe that civil and human rights have to be measured by a single yardstick.

The NAACP has demonstrated its commitment to live by that standard.

The Tea Party Federation took a step in that direction when it expelled the Tea Party Express over the weekend. Unfortunately, we have yet to hear from other leaders in the Tea Party movement like Dick Armey and Sarah Palin, who have been virtually silent on the “internal bigotry” issue.

Next time we are confronted by a racial controversy broken by Fox News or their allies in the Tea Party like Mr. Breitbart, we will consider the source and be more deliberate in responding. The tape of Ms. Sherrod’s speech at an NAACP banquet was deliberately edited to create a false impression of racial bias, and to create a controversy where none existed. This just shows the lengths to which extremist elements will go to discredit legitimate opposition.

According to the USDA, Sherrod’s statements prompted her dismissal. While we understand why Secretary Vilsack believes this false controversy will impede her ability to function in the role, we urge him to reconsider.

Finally, we hope this incident will heighten Congress’s urgency in dealing with the well documented findings of discrimination toward black, Latino, Asian American and Native American farmers, as well as female farmers of all races.”

45 windsagio  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:11:33pm

re: #43 RadicalModerate

It’s his meal ticket!

Seriously tho’, the hate and racism holds on because people refuse to see it in themselves.

46 Political Atheist  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:12:07pm

re: #33 Spare O’Lake

Well as I recall he did not edit the Acorn videos, nor the kid who video ambushed the Carolina congressman with an anger management issue… He would be the guy who portrayed a video from after an incident as during the incident.

By now he gets deeply deserved skepticism, not the benefit of doubt.

47 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:13:20pm

re: #39 Gus 802

New NAACP statement.

[Link: www.naacp.org…]

Brilliant. This is exactly what they have to say. Bolding mine.

The NAACP also has long championed and embraced transformation by people who have move beyond racial bias. Most notably, we have done so for late Alabama Governor George Wallace and late US Senator Robert Byrd — each a man who had associated with and supported white supremacists and their cause before embracing civil rights for all.

With regard to the initial media coverage of the resignation of USDA Official Shirley Sherrod, we have come to the conclusion we were snookered by Fox News and Tea Party Activist Andrew Breitbart into believing she had harmed white farmers because of racial bias.

Having reviewed the full tape, spoken to Ms. Sherrod, and most importantly heard the testimony of the white farmers mentioned in this story, we now believe the organization that edited the documents did so with the intention of deceiving millions of Americans. …

…Next time we are confronted by a racial controversy broken by Fox News or their allies in the Tea Party like Mr. Breitbart, we will consider the source and be more deliberate in responding. The tape of Ms. Sherrod’s speech at an NAACP banquet was deliberately edited to create a false impression of racial bias, and to create a controversy where none existed. This just shows the lengths to which extremist elements will go to discredit legitimate opposition.

According to the USDA, Sherrod’s statements prompted her dismissal. While we understand why Secretary Vilsack believes this false controversy will impede her ability to function in the role, we urge him to reconsider.

48 avanti  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:13:28pm

NAACP now says she should not have been fired, and urges another look at the case.

49 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:14:16pm

re: #39 Gus 802

New NAACP statement.

[Link: www.naacp.org…]

I don’t see an apology there. Sure, they got snookered, but it was their own fault for not exercising ordinary caution.

50 brownbagj  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:14:40pm

re: #44 Gus 802

Now this admin needs to come out just as strongly. They can come out on top on this and use this…

51 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:15:31pm

re: #50 brownbagj

Now this admin needs to come out just as strongly. They can come out on top on this and use this…

I wrote that here several hours ago. They really can turn this into a racist coup de gras if they act with strength and discipline.

52 windsagio  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:15:39pm

re: #50 brownbagj

Now this admin needs to come out just as strongly. They can come out on top on this and use this…

Yup, time to eat a little crow and reinstate Sherrod.

53 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:15:46pm

re: #44 Gus 802

Truly a breath of fresh air. Even better, they named Breitbart AND Fox News. While I fear that Vilsack won’t reverse his decision due to his own frakin’ pride, I am glad to see that the NAACP has not only realized its error, but admitted so and called those responsible to account.

54 Kefirah  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:16:53pm

re: #33 Spare O’Lake

even assuming that what he said is true, as a reporter or member of the media, he ought to have the moral fortitude to fact check what he reports as an “outrageous outrage.”

so i don’t see how his reception of an edited tape gets him off the hook at all.

55 Kefirah  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:17:08pm

re: #51 LudwigVanQuixote

chazak v’amatz, in other words.

56 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:20:15pm

re: #55 Kefirah

chazak v’amatz, in other words.

Indeed with a strong dose of yesher koach.

Though I also like “Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!”

57 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:22:45pm

Glenn Beck defends Sherrod!
“Context matters”

58 brownbagj  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:23:34pm

re: #51 LudwigVanQuixote

I wrote that here several hours ago. They really can turn this into a racist coup de gras if they act with strength and discipline.

A racist coup de gras would be awesome as I doubt the racists even know what that means.

/

Seriously, this administration needs to stand up and be counted on this one. They need to get their facts straight and then start with distributing body blows.

59 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:24:22pm

re: #35 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #38 windsagio

re: #54 Kefirah

I am not defending him. I just want to make sure we don’t let him wiggle off the hook by accusing him falsely on some collateral point(s).

60 windsagio  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:24:50pm

re: #59 Spare O’Lake

mmhmm.

61 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:24:54pm

re: #49 wrenchwench

I don’t see an apology there. Sure, they got snookered, but it was their own fault for not exercising ordinary caution.

They’re tying FOX News in with the slithering racist evil, making the narrative about misplaced national trust in a self identified “fair and balanced” news source.

62 TedStriker  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:25:24pm

re: #33 Spare O’Lake

Breitbart’s claim that he didn’t have the unedited tape is consistent with his claim that he did not edit the tape. He later said he would produce the unedited version if he could get permission.
Is it not possible that he received the tape in its edited state?
Let’s not get fooled again!

Like I asked Buck in the previous Sherrod thread, are you shitting me?

63 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:26:59pm

re: #51 LudwigVanQuixote

I wrote that here several hours ago. They really can turn this into a racist coup de gras if they act with strength and discipline.

A racist coup de gras would be a death blow administered by a racist. I don’t think that’s what you meant to say.

64 Kefirah  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:27:36pm

re: #59 Spare O’Lake

but this isn’t collateral. this goes to the heart of his philosophy and praxis as a journalist and hate.mongerer, which IS precisely what has us all up in arms.

if he got it and edited it, he’s culpable as a race.baiter.

if he got it as an edited snippet and didn’t do the necessary research + fact.checking before throwing it out into the baiting ring as fodder for the rabidly slavering hoards, he’s a race.baiter.

65 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:30:15pm

re: #64 Kefirah

but this isn’t collateral. this goes to the heart of his philosophy and praxis as a journalist and hate.mongerer, which IS precisely what has us all up in arms.

if he got it and edited it, he’s culpable as a race.baiter.

if he got it as an edited snippet and didn’t do the necessary research + fact.checking before throwing it out into the baiting ring as fodder for the rabidly slavering hoards, he’s a race.baiter.

I’m with you on this, but why aren’t you with me? Why accuse without proof, when the consequence could be to give him an excuse to claim victimhood?

66 Obdicut  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:32:09pm

re: #64 Kefirah

The way that he phrased the presentation of it clearly shows his malicious intent.

I don’t believe that he actually got a pre-edited video without knowledge that it was edited. I think he either edited it, or watched it, knew it was edited, and still released it.

But it doesn’t even matter: he’s standing by what he said even with the full version out there.

Thus the title of this thread.

67 windsagio  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:32:56pm

re: #66 Obdicut

Why is this even a question btw? I mean how many times does a guy have to lie out of his ass?

68 Kefirah  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:33:06pm

re: #65 Spare O’Lake

because, as i stated above, the proof is already out there. he’s a race.baiter, period, no matter in what state he received the video. there is no parallel universe in which he is not a race.baiter based on this video, his accompanying statements, and the statements he’s released today.

and: if you agree with my statements, in which i clearly demonstrated that the original state of the received video is moot, why aren’t you condemning him?

69 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:37:29pm

re: #66 Obdicut

The way that he phrased the presentation of it clearly shows his malicious intent.

I don’t believe that he actually got a pre-edited video without knowledge that it was edited. I think he either edited it, or watched it, knew it was edited, and still released it.

But it doesn’t even matter: he’s standing by what he said even with the full version out there.

Thus the title of this thread.

That’s right, so if it doesn’t really matter if he edited the tape and if we are not sure that he did, then it is stupid to accuse him of having done so. Charles didn’t, I didn’t, Kefirah didn’t and now you didn’t. Yet the downdings continue to rain down on me for issuing the cautionary note.

70 windsagio  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:38:07pm

re: #69 Spare O’Lake

Expressing your concern, eh?

71 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:39:37pm

re: #70 windsagio

Expressing your concern, eh?

Yes, I do have concern for the integrity and factual accuracy of this site.
If you don’t believe that then go fuck yourself.

72 AntonSirius  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:41:06pm

Heh. Even Erick, Son of Expletive Deleted, is putting some distance between himself and Breitbart on this one.

73 Kefirah  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:42:29pm

re: #69 Spare O’Lake

the downdings are raining down because your “cautionary” line:

“let’s not get fooled again!”

which implies that whether not he edited the tape has some bearing on whether or not he is, in fact, an intellectual mamzer and seller of hate.

i understand that you care deeply about fact.checking - that’s admirable, especially in a day and age where our journalists [see: breitbart] don’t think that’s necessary.

but because this particular fact is irrelevant, as i demonstrated above [and with which you agreed], your worry about getting fooled again seems to smack of breitbart apology.

74 Obdicut  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:43:50pm

re: #71 Spare O’Lake

I don’t believe you for a minute, given how much distortion and inaccurate information you post.

I think Brietbart edited the videos. You know why? Because he has a history of putting out edited videos.

Fucking shocking.

If he didn’t, I think he watched it, knew they were edited, and put it out anyway, using racist language in an incendiary smear job.

What is your objection to any of that?

75 windsagio  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:45:42pm

re: #73 Kefirah

His concern for ‘fact-checking’ is much greater when the people he secretly wishes he could support, but can’t for fear of crossing our Host are under attack.

76 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:51:46pm

re: #73 Kefirah

the downdings are raining down because your “cautionary” line:

“let’s not get fooled again!”

which implies that whether not he edited the tape has some bearing on whether or not he is, in fact, an intellectual mamzer and seller of hate.

i understand that you care deeply about fact.checking - that’s admirable, especially in a day and age where our journalists [see: breitbart] don’t think that’s necessary.

but because this particular fact is irrelevant, as i demonstrated above [and with which you agreed], your worry about getting fooled again seems to smack of breitbart apology.

Let me be clear:
NAACP was fooled; the Obama administration was fooled; most of the rest of the media were fooled…that’s what I meant.
This guy Breitbart is a weasel and an opportunist of the first order, and if he is wrongly accused on any details of the story he will surely exploit that to weasel his way off the hook.
If folks here actually think I am a Breitbart apologist then there is nothing else I can say, except to assure you that I know that the hostility comes from my having called out Obama and the NAACP for their shoddy parts in this disgusting episode.

77 windsagio  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:52:26pm

re: #76 Spare O’Lake

That’s right, pedal it back!

(OK outies)

78 Obdicut  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:57:26pm

re: #76 Spare O’Lake

It comes from you having accused the NAACP of slander. Which was slanderous in and of itself.

I know you’re mad that you didn’t successfully fool anyone, but it’s not going to improve by whining about it.

79 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:07:43pm

re: #78 Obdicut

It comes from you having accused the NAACP of slander. Which was slanderous in and of itself.

I know you’re mad that you didn’t successfully fool anyone, but it’s not going to improve by whining about it.

Not mad at all, just very disappointed in you and others here. I was correct in everything I said about the NAACP and Obama. Too bad you can’t face the truth when it stares you straight in the face.

80 Obdicut  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:15:02pm

re: #79 Spare O’Lake

However will LGF recover from your disappointment that nobody bought into your deflections?

81 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 6:31:39pm

re: #33 Spare O’Lake

Breitbart’s claim that he didn’t have the unedited tape is consistent with his claim that he did not edit the tape. He later said he would produce the unedited version if he could get permission.
Is it not possible that he received the tape in its edited state?
Let’s not get fooled again!

Sure. He ‘received it’ in its unedited state, and ran it without looking into its context or origins, because it ‘proved’ that the NAACP is just so totally racist.

I’m willing to believe that, but it doesn’t help his case any. Especially given that this is the third or fourth time he’s pulled this sort of thing.

82 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 20, 2010 6:34:05pm

re: #63 Spare O’Lake

A racist coup de gras would be a death blow administered by a racist. I don’t think that’s what you meant to say.

Actually, a racist coup de gras would be a racist hitting someone with a fatty substance.

A coup de grace is a death blow.


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