What Right Wing Extremist Violence? Part 2

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In Oakland, police have announced that Byron Williams, who was injured in a shootout with police on Sunday, was on his way to commit mass murder at offices of the ACLU and the Tides Foundation.

OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) ― Police say a California man who engaged in a freeway shootout with authorities was planning to attack people at the American Civil Liberties Union and another nonprofit.

Oakland Police Officer Jeff Thomason says Byron Williams told investigators he was on his way to San Francisco late Saturday night when California Highway Patrol officers pulled him over on Interstate 580. Williams allegedly opened fire wearing a bulletproof vest and armed with three guns.

Thomason says Williams wanted to target the ACLU and Tides Foundation for their “political views.” Authorities have said he has a deep-rooted anger with left-leaning politics.

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129 comments

darthstar Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:58:55pm

Soon, he’ll be a Fox News Contributor.

ShaunP Tue, Jul 20, 2010 3:59:04pm

I’ll never understand why self avowed constitution hawks hate the ACLU…

Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:00:02pm

re: #2 ShaunP

I’ll never understand why self avowed constitution hawks hate the ACLU…

Because the ACLU works for the Gheyz and commies!

reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:00:44pm

Not another one, please, not another one.

This has to stop.

Renaissance_Man Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:01:01pm

I blame the polarised political atmosphere that the Democrats and Obama have been pushing. This is going to reflect terribly on the White House. And remember that we haven’t seen the unedited tapes yet. I find that disturbing.

Is that about right?

Kronocide Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:01:53pm

What Wight Wing Viowence?

TedStriker Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:02:44pm

re: #2 ShaunP

I’ll never understand why self avowed constitution hawks hate the ACLU…

Because the ACLU is full of commies who don’t deserve to breathe the same air as true patriots!

///dripping

avanti Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:03:03pm

Glenn Beck will condemn his actions in 1-2-3…/

Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:04:55pm

re: #8 avanti

Glenn Beck will condemn his actions in 1-2-3…/

Or he’ll blame Obama.

“Look at what the President made this poor guy do to defend liberty!”

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:05:09pm

re: #5 Renaissance_Man

You dropped this.

RadicalModerate Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:05:15pm

Brietbart is on John King USA right now.

He’s blaming the NAACP on the entire story.

Gus Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:05:21pm

There it is.

goddamnedfrank Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:05:41pm

I’m just a simple cave man, your concept of social justice frightens and confuses me.

Gus Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:05:44pm

re: #11 RadicalModerate

Brietbart is on John King USA right now.

He’s blaming the NAACP on the entire story.

Act II - Deflect

Killgore Trout Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:05:45pm

re: #8 avanti

Glenn Beck will condemn his actions in 1-2-3…/

Refudiation!

RadicalModerate Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:06:38pm

He’s claiming that the farmer and wife who were interviewed by every media group today are possibly plants to save Sherrod.

He’s mentioning the Tea Party time and again.

albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:07:40pm

re: #11 RadicalModerate

Brietbart is on John King USA right now.

He’s blaming the NAACP on the entire story.

and the ratings spike!

Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:07:47pm

re: #13 goddamnedfrank

I’m just a simple cave man, your concept of social justice frightens and confuses me.

As I sit in my $75,000 Mercedes, I think how do the little horses fit inside the engine, I just don’t know.

But I do know this…the NAACP IS RACIST!!!

///

Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:09:15pm

re: #11 RadicalModerate

Brietbart is on John King USA right now.

He’s blaming the NAACP on the entire story.

He says the truth is near!

darthstar Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:09:21pm

Why is CNN wasting their time with this fucktard right now? They’re giving him a soap-box.

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:09:53pm

re: #16 RadicalModerate

We’ll he’s doubling, tripling down on complete lies.

He may be caught in something he can’t wriggle out of this time.

Not as many people will be willing to cynically defend him on this as they were on the ACORN shit.

darthstar Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:10:01pm

He just pulled the Jeremiah wright card! Accusing Tea party of racism is to deflect attention from Wright? WTF?

Renaissance_Man Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:10:33pm

re: #10 Obdicut

You dropped this.

/

If people can’t tell the difference without a sarc tag, that only shows that some posters/attitudes are such that they are beyond satire.

ShaunP Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:11:22pm

re: #23 Renaissance_Man

If people can’t tell the difference without a sarc tag, that only shows that some posters/attitudes are such that they are beyond satire.

Right on! If you can’t tell from my facial cues, that’s on them…

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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:11:41pm

re: #23 Renaissance_Man

If people can’t tell the difference without a sarc tag, that only shows that some posters/attitudes are such that they are beyond satire.

Or they don’t know you well enough yet to assume what is sarc, and what isn’t.

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:11:54pm

re: #4 reine.de.tout

Not another one, please, not another one.

This has to stop.

I don’t think it’s going to stop any time soon— not without getting worse. Look at who’s fueling it. Look at the gibbering morons foaming hatred from the TV, the radio, and even from their positions as elected officials.

We can just hope law enforcement can weather the storm. And I really hope the Secrete Service can keep Obama safe.

And his wife.

And those girls.

If something happens to those girls it will be one goddamn dark day.

RadicalModerate Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:12:00pm

Erick son of Erick is comparing this to Rush Limbaugh’s pushback from when he was trying to buy the St.Louis Rams, saying he was wrongly accused of making racist statements.

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:12:45pm

re: #23 Renaissance_Man

If people can’t tell the difference without a sarc tag, that only shows that some posters/attitudes are such that they are beyond satire.

Nope. It just means they didn’t get your particular satire. There’s no need to mount a high horse about it.

Let’s not fight about such trivialities while humongous evils romp around us.

webevintage Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:13:14pm

re: #27 RadicalModerate

Erick son of Erick is comparing this to Rush Limbaugh’s pushback from when he was trying to buy the St.Louis Rams, saying he was wrongly accused of making racist statements.

So both AB and Erick son of Erick are on CNN at the same time?
Will this open one of the seals of hell?

Racer X Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:13:20pm

OK, who spiked the water supply of the entire country with LSD?

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:13:35pm

re: #30 Racer X

OK, who spiked the water supply of the entire country with LSD?

I did, but I thought it’d be a happy trip, man.

avanti Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:14:04pm

re: #27 RadicalModerate

Erick son of Erick is comparing this to Rush Limbaugh’s pushback from when he was trying to buy the St.Louis Rams, saying he was wrongly accused of making racist statements.

Yep, he claimed the left made up all the racist comments by poor Rush.

austin_blue Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:14:05pm

OT:

Charles-

Thought you might find this interesting:

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

Gotta run.

My Commission meets tonight.

BBL.

CuriousLurker Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:14:11pm

Thank goodness this guy wasn’t successful.

Charles Johnson Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:15:11pm

Good lord. Breitbart is digging in and getting even more hateful.

Racer X Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:15:16pm

re: #31 Obdicut

I did, but I thought it’d be a happy trip, man.

Will you please tell AB and the TPers that “look at all the colors” is a good thing? Thanks!

darthstar Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:15:26pm

From what I heard, it sounded like Roland Martin (is he on King’s panel?) was saying Breitbart can’t keep making these claims when the facts say otherwise. I thought he was part of the ‘outrage’ crew earlier today?

This is a fast moving meltdown. I think they want to get this wrapped up in one news cycle.

reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:15:28pm

re: #34 CuriousLurker

Thank goodness this guy wasn’t successful.

Amen.

albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:15:55pm

re: #35 Charles

Good lord. Breitbart is digging in and getting even more hateful.

he’s cornered and he knows it

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:15:55pm

re: #22 darthstar

He just pulled the Jeremiah wright card! Accusing Tea party of racism is to deflect attention from Wright? WTF?

Oh, you mean that Jeremiah Wright card that people keep busting out in the comments here now and again?

Renaissance_Man Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:16:31pm

re: #25 reine.de.tout

Or they don’t know you well enough yet to assume what is sarc, and what isn’t.

That is true, but I’m not especially concerned with opinions of myself. This is a nice place, but it’s just the internet. My point is that if I make a statement that is so palpably insane, yet it can be easily mistaken for an honest opinion, then these opinions and those who espouse them are so nuts as to be beyond satire.

Racer X Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:16:37pm

re: #33 austin_blue

OT:

Charles-

Thought you might find this interesting:

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

Gotta run.

My Commission meets tonight.

BBL.

*blushes*

Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:17:11pm

I want Fox and the Teabagg propagandists called to responsibility for this.

RadicalModerate Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:17:15pm

Now Andrew is talking out of both sides of his mouth.

This story isn’t about Sherrod, but she’s a racist.

darthstar Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:17:20pm

Accusing King of not reporting and going off of Sherrod’s word and he’s still calling her a racist every third word…I wish this wasn’t just streaming audio. I’ll bet King’s face isn’t showing patience right now.

ShaunP Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:17:22pm

re: #41 Renaissance_Man

That is true, but I’m not especially concerned with opinions of myself. This is a nice place, but it’s just the internet. My point is that if I make a statement that is so palpably insane, yet it can be easily mistaken for an honest opinion, then these opinions and those who espouse them are so nuts as to be beyond satire.

I saw your “was that about right” as a pseudo-sarc tag…

webevintage Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:17:41pm

re: #37 darthstar

From what I heard, it sounded like Roland Martin (is he on King’s panel?) was saying Breitbart can’t keep making these claims when the facts say otherwise. I thought he was part of the ‘outrage’ crew earlier today?

he was until Ms. Sherrod slapped him around a bit on CNN earlier today.
I was kind of awesome….

darthstar Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:18:07pm

“Journolist” … concerned citizen…

Jetpilot1101 Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:18:23pm

re: #43 LudwigVanQuixote

I want Fox and the Teabagg propagandists called to responsibility for this.

Sir, with all due respect, that’s like asking the SEC to regulate the Pink Sheet Stock Market. It will never happen. I’d like it to happen but it never will.

RadicalModerate Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:19:07pm

Good fucking grief..

Brietbart: “The last thing I want to talk about right now is race”.

Mardukhai Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:19:13pm

re: #2 ShaunP

I’ll never understand why self avowed constitution hawks hate the ACLU…

I’ll tell you why I personally hate the ACLU (even though my uncle was on its national board).

As I’ve said before in my posts, a gang of black racists tried to kill me and 405 others in an arson attack in October, 1967, apparently because we opposed them in a student election. Three hours later, the same gang beat up the student newspaper staff, hospitalizing my friend, the editor Jim Vazko. Jim and his staff had been investigating their extortion and embezzlement of student funds.

The ACLU came to the defense of the racist pigs and served as their defense team. They weren’t interested in racial justice. They weren’t interested in freedem of the press. They were interested in coming to the aid of bad guys. That’s what they did, that’s what they do.

Shortly before all this happened, I approached the ACLU regarding voting intimidation on campus. Their response was too foul for me to relate here.

That’s why I hate the ACLU.

darthstar Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:19:14pm

uh, um, ah, I was aware…I was aware of the two of them…in March. I got them in the mail.

Oh, fuck you and go away, Breitbart.

darthstar Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:19:50pm

What legitimate question did Breitbart raise?

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:19:53pm

re: #51 Mardukhai

Can you please back up this story with any sort of proof or evidence whatsoever?

If not, why should anyone believe you?

RadicalModerate Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:19:54pm

The Brietbart interview is posted on CNN.

CuriousLurker Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:19:55pm

*sigh*

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:20:02pm

re: #50 RadicalModerate

Good fucking grief..

Brietbart: “The last thing I want to talk about right now is race”.

Brietbart: “I’d rather whistle it!”

Mardukhai Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:20:20pm

And yes, I misspelled “freedom.” on #51 above.

reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:20:51pm

re: #41 Renaissance_Man

That is true, but I’m not especially concerned with opinions of myself. This is a nice place, but it’s just the internet. My point is that if I make a statement that is so palpably insane, yet it can be easily mistaken for an honest opinion, then these opinions and those who espouse them are so nuts as to be beyond satire.

As long as it’s not Charles who misunderstands your intent, I suppose you are correct.

Nimed Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:21:50pm

re: #27 RadicalModerate

Erick son of Erick is comparing this to Rush Limbaugh’s pushback from when he was trying to buy the St.Louis Rams, saying he was wrongly accused of making racist statements.

Wow, even that imbecile stated that Sherrod didn’t deserve to be fired. This is going to cost Breitbart something.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:21:50pm

re: #51 Mardukhai

I’ll tell you why I personally hate the ACLU (even though my uncle was on its national board).

As I’ve said before in my posts, a gang of black racists tried to kill me and 405 others in an arson attack in October, 1967, apparently because we opposed them in a student election. Three hours later, the same gang beat up the student newspaper staff, hospitalizing my friend, the editor Jim Vazko. Jim and his staff had been investigating their extortion and embezzlement of student funds.

The ACLU came to the defense of the racist pigs and served as their defense team. They weren’t interested in racial justice. They weren’t interested in freedem of the press. They were interested in coming to the aid of bad guys. That’s what they did, that’s what they do.

Shortly before all this happened, I approached the ACLU regarding voting intimidation on campus. Their response was too foul for me to relate here.

That’s why I hate the ACLU.

I don’t believe you

TedStriker Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:21:55pm

re: #39 albusteve

he’s cornered and he knows it

Just like a wild animal…

reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:22:49pm

re: #51 Mardukhai

I’ll tell you why I personally hate the ACLU (even though my uncle was on its national board).

As I’ve said before in my posts, a gang of black racists tried to kill me and 405 others in an arson attack in October, 1967, apparently because we opposed them in a student election. Three hours later, the same gang beat up the student newspaper staff, hospitalizing my friend, the editor Jim Vazko. Jim and his staff had been investigating their extortion and embezzlement of student funds.

The ACLU came to the defense of the racist pigs and served as their defense team. They weren’t interested in racial justice. They weren’t interested in freedem of the press. They were interested in coming to the aid of bad guys. That’s what they did, that’s what they do.

Shortly before all this happened, I approached the ACLU regarding voting intimidation on campus. Their response was too foul for me to relate here.

That’s why I hate the ACLU.

I’m thinking a lot has probably changed in the last 40+ years since the incidents you described; it might be time to take a step back and take a new look at things. You think?

Mardukhai Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:23:17pm

re: #54 Obdicut

Can you please back up this story with any sort of proof or evidence whatsoever?

If not, why should anyone believe you?

Check any newspaper in the United States during the period from October, 1967 through February, 1969 regarding the so-called “Student Strike” at San Francisco State. It was all about getting the charges dropped against the ten pigs. I suggest reading the San Francisco Chronicle.

By the way, the pigs’ first lawyer was Willy Brown, yeah, that Willy Brown.

Cato the Elder Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:23:27pm

Why would an angry right-wing asshole want to shoot up the ACLU when the ACLU spends a good portion of its budget defending the rights of angry right-wing assholes?

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:24:26pm

re: #64 Mardukhai

Check any newspaper in the United States during the period from October, 1967 through February, 1969 regarding the so-called “Student Strike” at San Francisco State. It was all about getting the charges dropped against the ten pigs. I suggest reading the San Francisco Chronicle.

By the way, the pigs’ first lawyer was Willy Brown, yeah, that Willy Brown.

Obvious boomer conservative is obvious

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:24:28pm

re: #64 Mardukhai

So no, you can’t provide any proof to back up your story?

Why is one incident of black racism— assuming that your story is true— more important to you than the vastly more common white racism against blacks, the lynchings that were occurring even during that time, the murder of civil rights workers, etc?

HoosierHoops Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:24:32pm

re: #51 Mardukhai

What University was it?
Just a point of order…Lawyers are supposed to take opposing views..It’s kind of what they do.. I don’t hate a Lawyer for defending a mass murderer..Or defending anyone..It’s what they do..The ACLU is no different

Mardukhai Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:25:24pm

re: #61 WindUpBird

I don’t believe you

You’re not alone — the university administration says that the firebombing never happened. You can show them the clippings (I have files and files of them) and they respond with personal invective.

albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:25:30pm

re: #51 Mardukhai

the ACLU has a good thing going, for themselves..I question whether they actually make life any better for Americans…they tried to pick a fight with Las Cruces, NM over the crosses on their city seal…Las Cruces said bring it on, so it was dropped

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:26:07pm

re: #69 Mardukhai

You’re not alone — the university administration says that the firebombing never happened. You can show them the clippings (I have files and files of them) and they respond with personal invective.

Obvious boomer conservative is still obvious

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:26:34pm

re: #69 Mardukhai

Why did you previously claim that the newspapers covered it up, and now say you have lots of clippings?

albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:26:40pm

re: #54 Obdicut

Can you please back up this story with any sort of proof or evidence whatsoever?

If not, why should anyone believe you?

trust…the same reason believe your anecdotes

SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:26:48pm

just makes me want to work for the ACLU even more in 2 years

reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:27:08pm

re: #69 Mardukhai

You’re not alone — the university administration says that the firebombing never happened. You can show them the clippings (I have files and files of them) and they respond with personal invective.

Are you going now to the university to show them the clippings?
Why?
These incidents you described, if they happened, are now more than 40 years old!

Please take a step back and look around.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:28:09pm

re: #70 albusteve

the ACLU has a good thing going, for themselves..I question whether they actually make life any better for Americans…they tried to pick a fight with Las Cruces, NM over the crosses on their city seal…Las Cruces said bring it on, so it was dropped

I don’t know, do you think it makes life better for gay people when they’re actually allowed to adopt kids?

Nimed Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:28:20pm

re: #64 Mardukhai

Reagan shot my dog in 82. Check the papers.

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:28:45pm

re: #73 albusteve

trust…the same reason believe your anecdotes

I don’t use anecdotes to try to prove the ACLU— or any other institution— is bad and stuff.

I especially don’t use single 40 year anecdotes and fail to compare them against the gigantic legacy of white-against-black racism in this country.

Mardukhai Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:28:56pm

re: #67 Obdicut

So no, you can’t provide any proof to back up your story?

Why is one incident of black racism— assuming that your story is true— more important to you than the vastly more common white racism against blacks, the lynchings that were occurring even during that time, the murder of civil rights workers, etc?

What sort of proof do you want? You’re a typical liberal, what is inconvenient to you never happened. Like the Zebra Killings. Did I fake those as well? (By the way, I’m a Democrat, I support most of the Obama Administration’s policies. But the Atty. General should resign.)

By the way, as a journalist, I’m working on a book about the so-called “Student Strike” — It’s remarkable how many famous people should have gone to jail for extortion and embezzlement.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:29:04pm

re: #77 Nimed

Reagan shot my dog in 82. Check the papers.

Muhammad Ali ate my cheeseburger, that black racist

Interesting Times Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:29:21pm

re: #72 Obdicut

Why did you previously claim that the newspapers covered it up, and now say you have lots of clippings?

I googled Jim Vazko and found this from Google Books:

Long time gone: sixties America then and now

Mardukhai Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:30:05pm

re: #71 WindUpBird

Never been a conservative. Obvious. Just happened to have been in a building that was burned by leftist radicals. Racist leftist radicals.

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:30:13pm

re: #79 Mardukhai

You’re a typical liberal,

….

By the way, I’m a Democrat, I support most of the Obama Administration’s policies. But the Atty. General should resign.

Tipped your hand already there, buddy.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:30:22pm

re: #79 Mardukhai

What sort of proof do you want? You’re a typical liberal, what is inconvenient to you never happened. Like the Zebra Killings. Did I fake those as well? (By the way, I’m a Democrat, I support most of the Obama Administration’s policies. But the Atty. General should resign.)

By the way, as a journalist, I’m working on a book about the so-called “Student Strike” — It’s remarkable how many famous people should have gone to jail for extortion and embezzlement.

oh! A concern troll! How cute, can we keep him

TedStriker Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:30:58pm

re: #65 Cato the Elder

Why would an angry right-wing asshole want to shoot up the ACLU when the ACLU spends a good portion of its budget defending the rights of angry right-wing assholes?

Hell, the ACLU even stood up for Rush Limbaugh during his drug kerfluffle with the authorities…

Mardukhai Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:32:13pm

re: #81 publicityStunted

Because you have to read carefully. After the radicals were caught and shut down, it became clear that journalists were covering up a massive scandal. One of those journalists was my own father.

Ten years later, he confessed to me “We weren’t going to smear the anti-war movement with a scandal.”

We were never close after that.

HoosierHoops Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:32:45pm

re: #79 Mardukhai

What sort of proof do you want? You’re a typical liberal, what is inconvenient to you never happened. Like the Zebra Killings. Did I fake those as well? (By the way, I’m a Democrat, I support most of the Obama Administration’s policies. But the Atty. General should resign.)

By the way, as a journalist, I’m working on a book about the so-called “Student Strike” — It’s remarkable how many famous people should have gone to jail for extortion and embezzlement.

Forget that..What University? Google comes up blank..You know that old Chestnut..Everybody knows Google sucks for searching
Are you referring to the Clemson incident…
Post a link please

albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:32:51pm

commence mean ass mockery!

Mardukhai Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:33:06pm

re: #84 WindUpBird

Asshole, I’ve been a member of LGF for many years.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:33:19pm

re: #82 Mardukhai

Never been a conservative. Obvious. Just happened to have been in a building that was burned by leftist radicals. Racist leftist radicals.

Your internet is weak

Seriously, you come in here with this and you insult our intelligence thinking it will work. This sort of transparent concern troll stuff, I outgrew this when I was in college in the 90’s.

Mardukhai Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:33:43pm

re: #87 HoosierHoops

I already said, SF State.

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:33:49pm

re: #81 publicityStunted

What’s funny is that the reporting on the Vasko affair was incredibly incendiary— most of it reactionary and anti-black— and yet he’s alleging a vast conspiracy to cover up an arson attempt.

And— heh— according to that book, the ACLU did NOT defend the “gator 9”, when they had defended white students in similar circumstances.

Nimed Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:34:01pm

re: #80 WindUpBird

Muhammad Ali ate my cheeseburger, that black racist

Was that before or after he tried to burn you alive?

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:34:16pm

I’m done feeding the concern troll, gotta get work done

HoosierHoops Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:34:37pm

re: #88 albusteve

commence mean ass mockery!

Yea Steve-O But all it takes is one little old link…one link

Mardukhai Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:34:46pm

re: #90 WindUpBird

Yeah, Merced Hall was never bombed. Right. Jim Vazko never existed. Idiot.

albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:35:56pm

re: #95 HoosierHoops

Yea Steve-O But all it takes is one little old link…one link

yes, but it’s no excuse to be a butt head

Racer X Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:35:58pm

re: #96 Mardukhai

You got issues, dude.

HoosierHoops Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:35:59pm

re: #91 Mardukhai

I already said, SF State.

Whoops missed that..I went to College an hour north of there..Let me google that.

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Nimed Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:37:07pm

Wow, the title of the next post is promising.

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Cato the Elder Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:37:33pm

I have my own problems with the ACLU, and I no longer donate to them. This started when they made a huge whoopty-do over a teensy-weensy cross on the Los Angeles County seal.

Right after that happened, I wrote them a letter complaining about the two ginormous Catholic crosses bottony on the Maryland flag (which, if displayed properly on an indoor pole according to state law, is supposed to be hung on a staff topped with another pesky Christian cross, as shown in the picture).

They wrote back all eager to take on the case - at which point I decided I couldn’t keep up the charade, and told them to go fuck themselves.

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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:38:17pm

re: #96 Mardukhai

Yeah, Merced Hall was never bombed. Right. Jim Vazko never existed. Idiot.

Can you provide evidence that the ACLU defended the black students, when the book on the incident cited above says that they did not?

There definitely was a Vazko, and he definitely was an enormous racist who published incredibly virulent screeds against the Black Student Union. It is highly probably that he was attacked by members of the Black Student Union.

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Mardukhai Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:38:42pm

re: #98 Racer X

You get fire-bombed by racists and some asshole says it never happened, of course you get mad.

Dude, you deny history. What else can be made to have never happened?

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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:38:51pm

re: #92 Obdicut

What’s funny is that the reporting on the Vasko affair was incredibly incendiary— most of it reactionary and anti-black— and yet he’s alleging a vast conspiracy to cover up an arson attempt.

And— heh— according to that book, the ACLU did NOT defend the “gator 9”, when they had defended white students in similar circumstances.

That account linked by publicitystunted does not, as you point out, support Mardukhai’s version of events.

The student were suspended in the middle of a semester, Vazko suffered minimal injuries and was in hospital overnight for observation, it appears there was lots of reporting on the incident.

Mardukahai - I don’t know exactly what your issue is, but this incident is more than 40 years old, and your account of it isn’t matching up with what I just read.

Truly, I beg you to step back and take a fresh look at what’s going on in the world TODAY.

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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:40:23pm

re: #103 Mardukhai

You’re seriously alleging a conspiracy involving every newspaper that reported on the incident?

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Mardukhai Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:42:26pm

re: #102 Obdicut

You’re just vomiting back radical propaganda. Everyone on campus hated the BSU. The BSU was a strong-arm gang that worked hand in glove with white student crooks, and were finally put out of business by the state attorney general (a Democrat) in Feb. 1969. (That’s a whole ‘nuther issue.)

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Mardukhai Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:43:22pm

re: #104 reine.de.tout

Yes, they did. I was there.

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HoosierHoops Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:44:31pm

re: #105 Obdicut

You’re seriously alleging a conspiracy involving every newspaper that reported on the incident?

LOL.. I think not..It’s laughable..
I will admit a story written about me in the Napa Register was at least 50% bullshit years ago…I don’t think most reporters are the sharpest tools in the shed…But I did look really good to the Valley folks
*cough* Bullshit story

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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:47:20pm

re: #107 Mardukhai

Yes, they did. I was there.

It was more than 40 years ago.
Everyone else has probably moved on to better things.
I suggest you let go, and move on yourself.

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Mardukhai Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:48:04pm

I’ve been a journalist for 40 years. If it spoils a gig, or violates perceived reality, journos form a solid wall. They don’t want to be fired, and they don’t want to be the odd man out.

Two of the journalists involved, Bill Stout of CBS and Art Seidenbaum of the LA Times were family friends. Both later apologized to me. Seidenbaum said, “We just couldn’t believe what we were seeing.”

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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:48:13pm

re: #106 Mardukhai

GAZE.

You have showed nothing, proved nothing. When someone did a Google search, the facts of the incident were radically different than you had presented them— namely, the ACLU did not defend the students, according to that book. You say there was a conspiracy among all newspapers (many of which, during that time, were reactionary, conservative newspapers that reported very negatively on the BSU, so would have no reason to cover up anything) and obviously in the University as well. You have no proof, and you tell this story over and over; even if it were true, as I said before, even if it were true, there are so many more incidents of blacks being assaulted and killed by whites through racism. We really have treated blacks like shit in this country. It really happened, and we can’t just wish it away.

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Mardukhai Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:49:49pm

re: #111 Obdicut

You have proven nothing. You lied. You never Googled anything. You have no quotes. You don’t even exist. You’re a bot.

Two can play this game.

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Cato the Elder Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:49:52pm

re: #108 HoosierHoops

LOL.. I think not..It’s laughable..
I will admit a story written about me in the Napa Register was at least 50% bullshit years ago…I don’t think most reporters are the sharpest tools in the shed…But I did look really good to the Valley folks
*cough* Bullshit story

Every time I’ve read a newspaper story about me or someone I know well, the reporters have managed to bugger up at least one important detail…for instance, in a Baltimore Sun story years ago that quoted my father, they said he was a physician who worked “near Hopkins Hospital”.

LOL. He worked his entire professional life at and for Hopkins, and still works there in retirement, daily.

We tweaked him for months about that, how he worked like Lucy in “Peanuts” out of a little kiosk on Broadway in Baltimore, just a block or two away from Hopkins. I’d call him up and say, so how’s life at the kiosk today?

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Mardukhai Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:51:17pm

I give up. Going back to my book.

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Cato the Elder Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:55:49pm

re: #114 Mardukhai

I give up. Going back to my book.

A book about something that happened 41 years ago, and about which numerous other books have been written, and concerning which you have not brought one iota of compelling new testimony on this blog.

Yeah, that’s gonna be a top seller. As a journalist, you fail to impress.

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Reginald Perrin Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:56:31pm

Tom Blumer, a contributor to Pajamas Media and Newsbusters attacks Shirley Sherrod from a different angle. He is claiming she resigned quickly to cover-up how she got the job in the first place. Later on he starts to compare settling old lawsuits filed by African American farmers against the USDA with reparations.

The astro-turf spin machine is working hard to keep Ms Sherrod in the spotlight and portray her as a villian, rather than the victim of Breitbart’s racism.

Shirley Sherrod’s Disappearing Act: Not So Fast: Washington Examiner

Here are a few bigger-picture questions:

* Did Shirley Sherrod resign so quickly because the circumstances of her hiring and the lawsuit settlement with her organization that preceded it might expose some unpleasant truths about her possible and possibly sanctioned conflicts of interest?
* Is USDA worried about the exposure of possible waste, fraud, and abuse in its handling of Pigford?
* Did USDA also dispatch Sherrod hastily because her continued presence, even for another day, might have gotten in the way of settling Pigford matters quickly?

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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:57:27pm

re: #115 Cato the Elder

A book about something that happened 41 years ago, and about which numerous other books have been written, and concerning which you have not brought one iota of compelling new testimony on this blog.

Yeah, that’s gonna be a top seller. As a journalist, you fail to impress.

I’m trying to figure out what exactly it is that he wants by bringing this incident up.

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Racer X Tue, Jul 20, 2010 4:59:54pm

re: #117 reine.de.tout

I’m trying to figure out what exactly it is that he wants by bringing this incident up.

Me too.

“But they did it too” is a lame argument anyway.

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Cato the Elder Tue, Jul 20, 2010 5:00:42pm

re: #117 reine.de.tout

I’m trying to figure out what exactly it is that he wants by bringing this incident up.

Perhaps he’s trolling the book here so he can flog it later on Atlas…

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TedStriker Tue, Jul 20, 2010 5:16:13pm

re: #102 Obdicut

Can you provide evidence that the ACLU defended the black students, when the book on the incident cited above says that they did not?

There definitely was a Vazko, and he definitely was an enormous racist who published incredibly virulent screeds against the Black Student Union. It is highly probably that he was attacked by members of the Black Student Union.

Another member of the infamous LGF Class of 2004 whose ox has been gored or who has a longstanding grudge, whether it’s currently justified or not…I hate to be cynical, but I’ve not seen many Lizards that go that far back that haven’t eventually melted down.

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Romantic Heretic Tue, Jul 20, 2010 6:10:28pm

re: #117 reine.de.tout

I’m trying to figure out what exactly it is that he wants by bringing this incident up.

As I recall he was trying to prove that the ACLU did not deserve to be protected from people like Byron Williams because they are racist.

Or something to that effect.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 6:35:37pm

re: #2 ShaunP

I’ll never understand why self avowed constitution hawks hate the ACLU…

Too much with the first, not enough with the second.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 6:37:34pm

re: #16 RadicalModerate

He’s claiming that the farmer and wife who were interviewed by every media group today are possibly plants to save Sherrod.

He’s mentioning the Tea Party time and again.

White farmers and their wives are the simple salt of the American earth. Unless they’re sayin’ something Breitbart don’t like.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 6:38:47pm

re: #26 Obdicut

I don’t think it’s going to stop any time soon— not without getting worse. Look at who’s fueling it. Look at the gibbering morons foaming hatred from the TV, the radio, and even from their positions as elected officials.

We can just hope law enforcement can weather the storm. And I really hope the Secrete Service can keep Obama safe.

And his wife.

And those girls.

If something happens to those girls it will be one goddamn dark day.

Chas v’shalom. Don’t even think it.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 6:45:38pm

re: #82 Mardukhai

Never been a conservative. Obvious. Just happened to have been in a building that was burned by leftist radicals. Racist leftist radicals.

Hold on, I’m confused. Last time you were talking about this, you seemed to blame Robert Corrigan for not responding appropriately. He wasn’t the president of SFSU in the late sixties, surely?

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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jul 20, 2010 7:05:51pm

re: #125 SanFranciscoZionist

He’s also complaining about how no newspaper reported it and claiming to have a lot of clippings that prove it.

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Locker Tue, Jul 20, 2010 7:18:21pm

re: #51 Mardukhai

I’ll tell you why I personally hate the ACLU (even though my uncle was on its national board).

As I’ve said before in my posts, a gang of black racists tried to kill me and 405 others in an arson attack in October, 1967, apparently because we opposed them in a student election. Three hours later, the same gang beat up the student newspaper staff, hospitalizing my friend, the editor Jim Vazko. Jim and his staff had been investigating their extortion and embezzlement of student funds.

The ACLU came to the defense of the racist pigs and served as their defense team. They weren’t interested in racial justice. They weren’t interested in freedem of the press. They were interested in coming to the aid of bad guys. That’s what they did, that’s what they do.

Shortly before all this happened, I approached the ACLU regarding voting intimidation on campus. Their response was too foul for me to relate here.

That’s why I hate the ACLU.

Your perspective, your opinion. Granted. However, I down ding because of your sweeping judgments based on one case they took in which you are personally involved.

Maybe they took a bad case and maybe they didn’t. The point is that ignoring a gigantic bulk of positive action based on one “mistake” is unreasonable. Imagine if you were judged this way in your own life, workplace, social group, etc.

Do you ever make mistakes? Do you ever say something or do something that, in retrospect wasn’t a good idea? I’d assume you’d say the same thing I do which is “nobody is perfect” so perhaps you should consider that in your proclamation of hate for an entire organization rather than a specific incident.

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Locker Tue, Jul 20, 2010 7:19:49pm

re: #65 Cato the Elder

Why would an angry right-wing asshole want to shoot up the ACLU when the ACLU spends a good portion of its budget defending the rights of angry right-wing assholes?

Because angry, right-wing assholes are fucking stupid…. deliberately and proudly.

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Locker Tue, Jul 20, 2010 7:22:25pm

re: #79 Mardukhai

What sort of proof do you want? You’re a typical liberal, what is inconvenient to you never happened. Like the Zebra Killings. Did I fake those as well? (By the way, I’m a Democrat, I support most of the Obama Administration’s policies. But the Atty. General should resign.)

By the way, as a journalist, I’m working on a book about the so-called “Student Strike” — It’s remarkable how many famous people should have gone to jail for extortion and embezzlement.

“As a journalist” you have a surprising lack of knowledge about sources and references. Perhaps a brush up course is in order?

Sincerely,

A typical liberal

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