Roger Spooner, the farmer to whom Shirley Sherrod referred in her speech, says Sherrod is not a “racist,” she’s a lifelong friend — and she helped save their farm.
I don’t know how Andrew Breitbart sleeps at night. What he did to Sherrod is beyond despicable. This was one of the most loathsome episodes of creepy right wing dishonesty I have ever witnessed.
And that’s saying plenty.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jul 20, 2010 7:51:37pm |
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Four More Tears Tue, Jul 20, 2010 7:52:01pm |
This is one really clever racist we're dealing with here...
/
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 7:53:12pm |
Aren't these the sort of folks the librul eeleet are supposed to disdain?
/
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Jul 20, 2010 7:54:35pm |
Well, G-d willing, this will end up in a really big law suit that ends Breitbart's career and splashes Fox as well.
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What, me worry? Tue, Jul 20, 2010 7:55:19pm |
Pity they're being dragged into this ugly mess. God bless em. "She helped us, we want to help her."
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jul 20, 2010 7:55:35pm |
I'm glad that those people stood up for the woman who helped them. I hope they help turn things around for Sherrod and for her to get justice....
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jul 20, 2010 7:56:13pm |
Breitbart doesn't care. He thinks he's serving the greater good by by attacking the "Marxist" Obama. The irony is that in his willingness to hurt people to accomplish his goals, Andrew Breitbart is closer to Stalin than Barack Obama will ever be. Once again the wingnuts attack Obama only to make him look good simply because he isn't a scumbag like them. All their attacks on him tend to backfire; He's like the Roadrunner.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jul 20, 2010 7:57:12pm |
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
Breitbart doesn't care. He thinks he's serving the greater good by by attacking the "Marxist" Obama. The irony is that in his willingness to hurt people to accomplish his goals, Andrew Breitbart is closer to Stalin than Barack Obama will ever be. Once again the wingnuts attack Obama only to make him look good simply because he isn't a scumbag like them. All their attacks on him tend to backfire; He's like the Roadrunner.
MEEP MEEP!
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jul 20, 2010 7:57:41pm |
re: #4 LudwigVanQuixote
Well, G-d willing, this will end up in a really big law suit that ends Breitbart's career and splashes Fox as well.
Fox has the money to pay, but hopefully this will put them off running hit pieces like that. Breitbart, though, should be done behind this.
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Four More Tears Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:00:32pm |
re: #10 Dark_Falcon
Fox has the money to pay, but hopefully this will put them off running hit pieces like that. Breitbart, though, should be done behind this.
Emphasis on the word "should." He won't be, but it's nice to pretend for just a moment that there are consequences for this sort of thing.
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What, me worry? Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:01:24pm |
I don’t know how Andrew Breitbart sleeps at night. What he did to Sherrod is beyond despicable. This was one of the most loathsome episodes of creepy right wing dishonesty I have ever witnessed.
Made me think of Mark Twain, "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes."
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:02:25pm |
re: #11 JasonA
Emphasis on the word "should." He won't be, but it's nice to pretend for just a moment that there are consequences for this sort of thing.
It is a slow news period and he is a low hanging fruit. I think he is going to take a beating now.
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Unakite Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:02:27pm |
re: #12 marjoriemoon
Made me think of Mark Twain, "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes."
Yep, this is ridiculous.
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Jeff In Ohio Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:03:07pm |
This is breaking my heart. What the fuck is wrong with Vilsack and why does he still have a job?
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:03:37pm |
re: #11 JasonA
Emphasis on the word "should." He won't be, but it's nice to pretend for just a moment that there are consequences for this sort of thing.
Well, even if he survives, Fox will likely avoid him for a good long while. An expensive lawsuit is the kind of thing that will make the suits dial the crazy back, or at least I hope it will.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:03:47pm |
re: #4 LudwigVanQuixote
Well, G-d willing, this will end up in a really big law suit that ends Breitbart's career and splashes Fox as well.
Trying to score political points with distortion and dishonesty whose end result smears a woman's reputation and career, and ultimately serves to create more racial tension in this country where there should be none?
Damn right, I will be satisfied with nothing less then what you describe. I will remind myself to be patient, as these things can take time to unfold.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:05:22pm |
re: #12 marjoriemoon
As I said in the last thread, the truth finally has its shoes on, let's hope it can run faster than Breitbart.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:05:37pm |
re: #4 LudwigVanQuixote
Well, G-d willing, this will end up in a really big law suit that ends Breitbart's career and splashes Fox as well.
I don't think god has anything to do with it...but are you saying you think there is a libel suit here?
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jc717 Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:06:01pm |
And now for a lighter take on prejudice...
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Targetpractice Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:06:35pm |
The only thing more disgusting than Breitbart's actions in this whole affair is the rush by the Right to "defend" him. I've heard at least half a dozen different variations of the same theme, that he's as much as a "victim" as the NAACP and USDA, that he too was duped by this edited video, and that he was only doing what he "thought best."
At the same time, they've likewise shifted gears in the face of the full video and now started focusing on the audience. They're pointing out that the audience was full of NAACP members who "clapped and cheered" as Sherrod stated that she felt Mr. Spooner would be better helped by "one of his own kind." They want to spin that into proof that the NAACP is full of racists and thus should "clean house" before going after the Tea Party.
And, of course, they're now trying to act "shocked" at the NAACP and USDA's actions, "shocked" that they took swift action rather than waiting for the evidence. The latter, in particular, they're trying to spin into an indictment of Obama, claiming that he was the one who ordered pressure be applied to Sherrod to resign. That he either "threw her under the bus" or "is too inexperienced to recognize a con."
Breitbart's just the tip of the disgusting, racist, shallow-minded, slime-covered iceberg. The whole Right is slowly rotting out and the name of its affliction is Obama Derangement Syndrome.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:06:45pm |
Brietbart sure stepped in it this time. Although none of the usual blogs are actually blaming him for editing the videos, which they should be, I think the wingnuts are getting tired of being embarrassed by Andrew. The Acorn tapes were eventually debunked but it took a few months and most right wing blogs just swept it under the proverbial rug. The wheels came off the black panther case a few days ago. I suspect that most wingnut blogs are going to be very cautious of his Journolist scoops. I don't think Brietbart is finished but he's wasted a lot of his capital by peddling easily debunked bullshit.
I don't think the wingnuts are done with outrageous outrages. I'm sure they're frustrated about not being taken seriously but this is more driven by instinct than intellect. They can't resist. The only reason they're bailing out on this story is because the debunking happened so quickly it was impossible to ignore.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:07:10pm |
re: #11 JasonA
Emphasis on the word "should." He won't be, but it's nice to pretend for just a moment that there are consequences for this sort of thing.
It happened to Dan Rather. All the "Liberal Media" in the world couldn't put that Humpty Dumpty back together.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:07:37pm |
Can't Tell Me Nothing
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:07:47pm |
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
Breitbart doesn't care. He thinks he's serving the greater good by by attacking the "Marxist" Obama. The irony is that in his willingness to hurt people to accomplish his goals, Andrew Breitbart is closer to Stalin than Barack Obama will ever be. Once again the wingnuts attack Obama only to make him look good simply because he isn't a scumbag like them. All their attacks on him tend to backfire; He's like the Roadrunner.
you mean this guy?
Image: 68roadrunner.jpg
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What, me worry? Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:07:59pm |
re: #19 albusteve
I don't think god has anything to do with it...but are you saying you think there is a libel suit here?
If they don't hire her back, I'd say yes. If they do, then probably not.
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Obdicut Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:08:12pm |
re: #22 Killgore Trout
This sweet old couple are hard to ignore. This one came pre-debunked in the most extreme way.
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mikefromArlington Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:08:40pm |
Breitbart was on Hannity tonight and both of them came to the agreement she's still a racist.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:08:57pm |
re: #15 Jeff In Ohio
This is breaking my heart. What the fuck is wrong with Vilsack and why does he still have a job?
because BO would be too embarrassed to can him...it was ever thus
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:08:58pm |
re: #17 Slumbering Behemoth
Trying to score political points with distortion and dishonesty whose end result smears a woman's reputation and career, and ultimately serves to create more racial tension in this country where there should be none?
Damn right, I will be satisfied with nothing less then what you describe. I will remind myself to be patient, as these things can take time to unfold.
Agreed, 100%
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:09:32pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:10:45pm |
re: #27 Obdicut
This sweet old couple are hard to ignore. This one came pre-debunked in the most extreme way.
It's nice that they were willing to come forward for her. This kind of media scrutiny must be nerve-wracking.
And, as Major Strasser tells Rick, the other side would have paid them much better.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:12:19pm |
re: #22 Killgore Trout
Brietbart sure stepped in it this time. Although none of the usual blogs are actually blaming him for editing the videos, which they should be, I think the wingnuts are getting tired of being embarrassed by Andrew. The Acorn tapes were eventually debunked but it took a few months and most right wing blogs just swept it under the proverbial rug. The wheels came off the black panther case a few days ago. I suspect that most wingnut blogs are going to be very cautious of his Journolist scoops. I don't think Brietbart is finished but he's wasted a lot of his capital by peddling easily debunked bullshit.
I don't think the wingnuts are done with outrageous outrages. I'm sure they're frustrated about not being taken seriously but this is more driven by instinct than intellect. They can't resist. The only reason they're bailing out on this story is because the debunking happened so quickly it was impossible to ignore.
Agreed. Breitbart will survive this, but from here on in he won't be able to get major coverage until someone else has looked into his "scoop". If he's smart, he'll lie low till September, but I think he'll be too Butthurt to do that.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:12:57pm |
re: #20 jc717
And now for a lighter take on prejudice...
[Video]
How very odd. I never heard of that guy in my life before yesterday when seeing another video, and now he shows up here today. You been spying on me, JC?
/
If You Open Your Mind Too Much Your Brain Will Fall Out
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:14:09pm |
re: #33 Dark_Falcon
Agreed. Breitbart will survive this, but from here on in he won't be able to get major coverage until someone else has looked into his "scoop". If he's smart, he'll lie low till September, but I think he'll be too Butthurt to do that.
lay low?...no way..he's the Lindsey Lohan of bloggers right now...people will love him no matter what...he'll skate over this dust up
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:15:20pm |
Has BHO decided to not throw her under the bus?
He is the boss. Make no bones about it. BHO is the boss.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:15:32pm |
re: #33 Dark_Falcon
Agreed. Breitbart will survive this, but from here on in he won't be able to get major coverage until someone else has looked into his "scoop". If he's smart, he'll lie low till September, but I think he'll be too Butthurt to do that.
I don't even believe that much. So long as he can drum up an "outrage," whether from whole cloth or by stitching together scraps, that makes Obama and/or the Democrats look back, Fox News will be there to report it as "fact."
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steve_davis Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:15:46pm |
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
Breitbart doesn't care. He thinks he's serving the greater good by by attacking the "Marxist" Obama. The irony is that in his willingness to hurt people to accomplish his goals, Andrew Breitbart is closer to Stalin than Barack Obama will ever be. Once again the wingnuts attack Obama only to make him look good simply because he isn't a scumbag like them. All their attacks on him tend to backfire; He's like the Roadrunner.
By the way, if this story doesn't absolutely exemplify why we don't see Barack Obama throwing folding chairs out onto the court when he doesn't get his way, then we are even more obtuse than I fear. People are wondering, "Why doesn't he show more emotion? Why doesn't he let us know what he feels?" Yeah, it's not like black people attempting to honestly explain how angry they feel about the endemic racism they get caught up in has ever caused a black official any problems, especially with Breitbart around to mix from the master tape.
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Gus Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:15:56pm |
Three cheers for the Spooners! Roger Spooner is 87 years old and still drives.
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avanti Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:16:29pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:17:07pm |
re: #22 Killgore Trout
I don't think Brietbart is finished but he's wasted a lot of his capital by peddling easily debunked bullshit.
I fear you may be right here. If Jones, both Pauls, and the JBS aren't getting laughed right out of the fucking tent, I won't hold much hope that Breitbart will get his.
Still, the results of the Throbbing Memo debacle give me some hope.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:17:17pm |
re: #39 Gus 802
Three cheers for the Spooners! Roger Spooner is 87 years old and still drives.
So was my dad.
The only problem was he had no clue where he was half the time.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:17:39pm |
re: #36 MandyManners
Has BHO decided to not throw her under the bus?
He is the boss. Make no bones about it. BHO is the boss.
My guess is that his advisers are telling him that Vilsack was "right," that it doesn't matter whether the initial reaction was wrong or not, they can't be seen as "condoning" racism and so "requesting" her resignation was the "right" thing to do.
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webevintage Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:18:06pm |
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
Joseph N. Welch to Senator McCarthy
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:18:58pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:19:24pm |
re: #36 MandyManners
Has BHO decided to not throw her under the bus?
He is the boss. Make no bones about it. BHO is the boss.
Obama is the president. Under normal circumstances, it is not the president's job to run around the country rescuing USDA workers being attacked by psychotic bloggers as revenge for the NAACP saying somethin' mean about the Tea Party.
Of course, these are far from normal circumstances.
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goddamnedfrank Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:19:44pm |
re: #36 MandyManners
Has BHO decided to not throw her under the bus?
He is the boss. Make no bones about it. BHO is the boss.
Refudiate faster damnit!
Talk to us more about the DOJ / New Black Panthers, ACORN and Van Jones.
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lostlakehiker Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:19:46pm |
It's not a shocking surprise, but it is dismaying, that Sherrod, or anybody, would be summarily fired without having had a chance to present their side of the story and supporting evidence.
That's nothing unique to government, or the Obama administration. One wrong word, one too-honest moment, and it's game over. Organizations are snakebit.
We have too many hounds out to hound a person to ruin if it will serve some partisan purpose. Breitbart has joined one of the packs. But we also have a shortage of fortitude. Knowing how often the first "outrage" is no such thing when the rest of the facts come in, why do we allow or condone or even participate in this kind of public show trial kangaroo court? The voice of the mob is the force that pushes institutions into kangaroo-court firings.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:19:53pm |
re: #35 albusteve
lay low?...no way..he's the Lindsey Lohan of bloggers right now...people will love him no matter what...he'll skate over this dust up
Well, I wish he could switch places with Lilo in jail right now. We could all use two weeks without having to refute his trumped up "news stories"
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:21:01pm |
re: #23 Slumbering Behemoth
It happened to Dan Rather. All the "Liberal Media" in the world couldn't put that Humpty Dumpty back together.
well, the difference was Dan Rather was anchoring actual news, breitbart has nowhere to fall from. You can't fire a raconteur who's writing his own ticket. As long as people listen to him, he's got power.
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webevintage Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:21:06pm |
re: #36 MandyManners
Has BHO decided to not throw her under the bus?
He is the boss. Make no bones about it. BHO is the boss.
Not sure.
I think the President was with some dude from the UK all day.
and yeah, the President makes decisions about low level employees...
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:21:15pm |
re: #46 SanFranciscoZionist
Obama is the president. Under normal circumstances, it is not the president's job to run around the country rescuing USDA workers being attacked by psychotic bloggers as revenge for the NAACP saying somethin' mean about the Tea Party.
Of course, these are far from normal circumstances.
BO needs to kick ass....
bwahahaha!
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:21:43pm |
re: #44 webevintage
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
Joseph N. Welch to Senator McCarthy
Breitbart has none, and the McCarthy comparison is well earned by him.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:21:53pm |
re: #46 SanFranciscoZionist
USDA workers being attacked by psychotic bloggers as revenge for the NAACP saying somethin' mean about the Tea Party.
And now that I've typed that out, it really makes less than no sense. Politics is FUN!!
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Ojoe Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:21:58pm |
It is pretty anyway, even with the smog.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:22:23pm |
re: #50 WindUpBird
True enough.
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Unakite Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:23:07pm |
re: #34 Slumbering Behemoth
How very odd. I never heard of that guy in my life before yesterday when seeing another video, and now he shows up here today. You been spying on me, JC?
/
If You Open Your Mind Too Much Your Brain Will Fall Out
Heh, never heard of that guy before period, but now I have. :)
See what happens when people communicate with each other?
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:23:29pm |
re: #49 Dark_Falcon
Well, I wish he could switch places with Lilo in jail right now. We could all use two weeks without having to refute his trumped up "news stories"
well I don't pay much attention to him...I get along fine without blogger/TV head rassling matches...amused but that's about it
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Ojoe Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:23:44pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:23:56pm |
re: #44 webevintage
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
Joseph N. Welch to Senator McCarthy
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:24:56pm |
re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist
And now that I've typed that out, it really makes less than no sense. Politics is FUN!!
it has to keep coming because by next week nobody will remember this dust up...there will be a new one to rage about
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:25:03pm |
re: #43 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
My guess is that his advisers are telling him that Vilsack was "right," that it doesn't matter whether the initial reaction was wrong or not, they can't be seen as "condoning" racism and so "requesting" her resignation was the "right" thing to do.
YOU KILLED THE UNICORN!!!!
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simoom Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:25:17pm |
re: #15 Jeff In Ohio
What the fuck is wrong with Vilsack
I've known something wasn't quite right with the guy ever since seeing this:
[Link: wonkette.com...]
:p
BTW, if Vilsack doesn't end up doing the right thing with respect to Sherrod, perhaps Pooh-suit-Vilsack from the above article should accompany any FP posts concerning him, just like with Mao-cap-Palin: Image: ZZ53C5387F.jpg or Zombie-Geller: Image: PamelaGellerUndead.jpg
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:25:40pm |
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Jeff In Ohio Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:26:20pm |
re: #46 SanFranciscoZionist
Obama is the president. Under normal circumstances, it is not the president's job to run around the country rescuing USDA workers being attacked by psychotic bloggers as revenge for the NAACP saying somethin' mean about the Tea Party.
Of course, these are far from normal circumstances.
I find myself wanting to believe the right thing is to give this woman her job back and if it takes the President of the United States to get that done, then that's what needs to be done. Otherwise, the motherfuckers win, and I'm tired of the moterhfuckers winning.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:26:25pm |
re: #63 simoom
I've known something wasn't quite right with the guy ever since seeing this:
[Link: wonkette.com...]
:pBTW, if Vilsack doesn't end up doing the right thing with respect to Sherrod, perhaps Pooh-suit-Vilsack from the above article should accompany any FP posts concerning him, just like with Mao-cap-Palin: Image: ZZ53C5387F.jpg or Zombie-Geller: Image: PamelaGellerUndead.jpg
that dick head should have been fired this morning at the latest...ho hum
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Nimed Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:26:40pm |
re: #46 SanFranciscoZionist
Obama is the president. Under normal circumstances, it is not the president's job to run around the country rescuing USDA workers being attacked by psychotic bloggers as revenge for the NAACP saying somethin' mean about the Tea Party.
Of course, these are far from normal circumstances.
I am a bit miffed at Vilsack for expeditiously pooping his pants as he watched the video. My bet is Sherrod is too.
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:27:14pm |
re: #57 Unakite
Heh, never heard of that guy before period, but now I have. :)
See what happens when people communicate with each other?
Peace Anthem for the Middle East
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chonguey Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:27:16pm |
Where does it end? What has to happen for even more responsible sane Conservatives besides just Charles to say "Enough is Enough!", pull off a William F. Buckley and banish Breitbart, Glenn Beck and their ilk to the rubbish bin of phony "Conservatives" where they belong?
I fear what will have to happen until the Fox-fueled epistemological bizzarro circus finally ends. These outrageous outrages are appearing at an increasing rate, wrecking more and more careers, stirring up predictable racial tensions, and even snookering the Obama White House with no seeming ability in the American media landscape to put a lid on this constant stream of right-wing lies, distortions and out-right slanders.
The insane right wants an all out race/culture war, and they are happily smearing their way down the primrose path of manufactured racial resentment to an ugly, ugly place.
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Four More Tears Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:27:24pm |
re: #65 Jeff In Ohio
I find myself wanting to believe the right thing is to give this woman her job back and if it takes the President of the United States to get that done, then that's what needs to be done. Otherwise, the motherfuckers win, and I'm tired of the moterhfuckers winning.
Same tactics that brought down ACORN. It works.
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avanti Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:28:25pm |
re: #45 albusteve
looks fast, standing still...those were the good old days
Here's going fast in a Avanti, in 1963
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:28:43pm |
re: #64 Slumbering Behemoth
Fussin' and fightin' from dusk till dawn
Lyin', stealin, wheelin', dealin', it just keeps rollin' on
Nothin but bad news and it's wearin' kind of thin
With every news situation seems to be a no win
Little feat
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:28:46pm |
re: #46 SanFranciscoZionist
Obama is the president. Under normal circumstances, it is not the president's job to run around the country rescuing USDA workers being attacked by psychotic bloggers as revenge for the NAACP saying somethin' mean about the Tea Party.
Of course, these are far from normal circumstances.
Is the Secretay of Agriculure under the command of the president?
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:29:19pm |
re: #47 goddamnedfrank
Refudiate faster damnit!
Talk to us more about the DOJ / New Black Panthers, ACORN and Van Jones.
Bite my shiny metal ass!
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cliffster Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:30:10pm |
I didn't watch one single second of Breitbart's video, nor one single second of the actual video, and still I know - Breitbart's a dick.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:30:17pm |
re: #63 simoom
I've known something wasn't quite right with the guy ever since seeing this:
[Link: wonkette.com...]
:pBTW, if Vilsack doesn't end up doing the right thing with respect to Sherrod, perhaps Pooh-suit-Vilsack from the above article should accompany any FP posts concerning him, just like with Mao-cap-Palin: Image: ZZ53C5387F.jpg or Zombie-Geller: Image: PamelaGellerUndead.jpg
Hey, why you gotta be hating on the furries?
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calochortus Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:30:19pm |
re: #44 webevintage
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
Joseph N. Welch to Senator McCarthy
Gotta say that was my reaction as well...
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Targetpractice Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:30:22pm |
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:30:24pm |
re: #51 webevintage
Not sure.
I think the President was with some dude from the UK all day.and yeah, the President makes decisions about low level employees...
This is a departmental kefflufle?
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Obdicut Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:30:49pm |
re: #73 MandyManners
The corporal who didn't tip my friend when she waited on him for lunch today is under the command of the President.
Your point?
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calochortus Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:31:05pm |
re: #79 MandyManners
This is a departmental kefflufle?
I think it was a few hours ago. Things change.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:31:17pm |
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b_sharp Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:31:20pm |
re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist
And now that I've typed that out, it really makes less than no sense. Politics is FUN!!
People need to be careful when handling negative sense, it's been known to turn a normally intelligent mind inside out, just because it sucks.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:31:26pm |
re: #65 Jeff In Ohio
I find myself wanting to believe the right thing is to give this woman her job back and if it takes the President of the United States to get that done, then that's what needs to be done. Otherwise, the motherfuckers win, and I'm tired of the moterhfuckers winning.
I do agree, and if I had Obama's cell number, I'd be on it this minute.
But I do see this being dumped on his doorstep, which is kind of insane. Obama didn't start this, and it is no part of his job description to deal with it. I'd like to see him do something for this woman, if that's what it takes, but I am very wary of the number of people who've popped up announcing that if he doesn't, he's 'throwing Sherrod under the bus', and failing at being president.
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polkadot Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:31:40pm |
That guy sure don't seem like someone who was condescending to her like she said he was.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:32:05pm |
re: #47 goddamnedfrank
Refudiate faster damnit!
Talk to us more about the DOJ / New Black Panthers, ACORN and Van Jones.
I heard Obama is the commander of everything everywhere and has absolute knowledge of everything therefore everything should happen at the pace of Extremely Concerned blog comments
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:32:25pm |
re: #85 polkadot
That guy sure don't seem like someone who was condescending to her like she said he was.
Maybe that's because it's a few decades after they met and now they're good friends?
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:32:28pm |
old McBreitbart had a farm ee i ee i oooo
and on that farm he had some bullshit ee i ee i ooo
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Four More Tears Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:32:56pm |
re: #84 SanFranciscoZionist
I do agree, and if I had Obama's cell number, I'd be on it this minute.
But I do see this being dumped on his doorstep, which is kind of insane. Obama didn't start this, and it is no part of his job description to deal with it. I'd like to see him do something for this woman, if that's what it takes, but I am very wary of the number of people who've popped up announcing that if he doesn't, he's 'throwing Sherrod under the bus', and failing at being president.
They hated him to begin with. Seriously.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:33:55pm |
re: #73 MandyManners
Is the Secretay of Agriculure under the command of the president?
Does the president normally intervene in hiring and firing decisions at the USDA?
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:33:58pm |
re: #80 Obdicut
The corporal who didn't tip my friend when she waited on him for lunch today is under the command of the President.
Your point?
Oh, for fuck's sake.
Ssstttreeetttccchhh a bit much?
Did that issue make the front pages?
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Ojoe Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:34:26pm |
re: #69 chonguey
Where does it end?
I think it ends, when the independents get their own party, a centrist one, and thus marginalize, and cut adrift the crazies in their own, by then, powerless parties.
And do not forget that the left has crazies too.
In fact this scene could not have developed without two brands of crazies.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:34:44pm |
re: #85 polkadot
That guy sure don't seem like someone who was condescending to her like she said he was.
Polkadado, CLEAN UP YOUR GRAMMAR.
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Obdicut Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:35:16pm |
re: #92 MandyManners
Oh, for fuck's sake.
Ssstttreeetttccchhh a bit much?
Did that issue make the front pages?
I'm sorry, you asked whether someone was under the command of the president.
Now what matters is whether it reached the front pages?
Again: What is your point? Could you please make it simply and directly?
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Nimed Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:35:33pm |
re: #70 JasonA
Same tactics that brought down ACORN. It works.
And when it doesn't, there are no consequences. Another news cycle comes and that's it. We can say that Breitbart "lost credibility" with this, but it doesn't really matter that much. He will continue to go appear on Fox, CNN, Bill Maher.
Self-employed media clowns with an audience can get burned if they cross the line enough times, but it takes a lot to get to that point. Just look at what it took with Ann Coulter.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:35:46pm |
re: #91 SanFranciscoZionist
Does the president normally intervene in hiring and firing decisions at the USDA?
So, why is BHO throwing this woman under the bus?!
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Obdicut Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:36:04pm |
re: #97 MandyManners
Can you please quote what Obama has said on the matter?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:36:14pm |
re: #97 MandyManners
So, why is BHO throwing this woman under the bus?!
You do not have the knowledge to make that assertion
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:36:24pm |
re: #79 MandyManners
This is a departmental kefflufle?
Yeah, this is a departmental kerfuffle. Vilsack decided to get rid of an employee precipitously, on the word of a piece-of-shit wannabe journalist. He made a big mistake, and I would like to see that fixed.
Of course, now this is turning into a referendum on Barack Obama's leadership skills, like everything else that's happened in the United States since about three months before he took office.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:36:36pm |
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Stanghazi Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:36:53pm |
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
Breitbart doesn't care. He thinks he's serving the greater good by by attacking the "Marxist" Obama. The irony is that in his willingness to hurt people to accomplish his goals, Andrew Breitbart is closer to Stalin than Barack Obama will ever be. Once again the wingnuts attack Obama only to make him look good simply because he isn't a scumbag like them. All their attacks on him tend to backfire; He's like the Roadrunner.
meep meep
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Four More Tears Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:36:55pm |
re: #97 MandyManners
So, why is BHO throwing this woman under the bus?!
So, why do you keep calling him BHO?
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:37:01pm |
re: #98 Obdicut
Can you please quote what Obama has said on the matter?
dude, you are boring the lurkers
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:37:04pm |
re: #100 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah, this is a departmental kerfuffle. Vilsack decided to get rid of an employee precipitously, on the word of a piece-of-shit wannabe journalist. He made a big mistake, and I would like to see that fixed.
Of course, now this is turning into a referendum on Barack Obama's leadership skills, like everything else that's happened in the United States since about three months before he took office.
This, forever
haters gotta hate!
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:37:17pm |
re: #85 polkadot
That guy sure don't seem like someone who was condescending to her like she said he was.
It's been a long time, and I think they've both probably learned something since then. Like she said in her nice speech.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:37:45pm |
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b_sharp Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:37:55pm |
re: #85 polkadot
That guy sure don't seem like someone who was condescending to her like she said he was.
As we all know, nobody changes over time, they never learn, they never gain new information, they never make the decision to reevaluate their value system. They never grow.
You've got it nailed.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:37:56pm |
re: #98 Obdicut
Can you please quote what Obama has said on the matter?
He is the president. All executive power flows from him.
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b_sharp Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:39:13pm |
re: #89 SpaceJesus
old McBreitbart had a farm ee i ee i ooo
and on that farm he had some bullshit ee i ee i ooo
You have a verse in there somewhere about him eating that shit?
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:39:21pm |
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Jeff In Ohio Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:39:30pm |
re: #84 SanFranciscoZionist
I do agree, and if I had Obama's cell number, I'd be on it this minute.
But I do see this being dumped on his doorstep, which is kind of insane. Obama didn't start this, and it is no part of his job description to deal with it. I'd like to see him do something for this woman, if that's what it takes, but I am very wary of the number of people who've popped up announcing that if he doesn't, he's 'throwing Sherrod under the bus', and failing at being president.
Damn realpolitik! I see your point, Vislak really fucked this up by not giving his employee a fair hearing, and that rankles me.
I suppose if this was Pres. Bartlett he'd just ask Leo McGarry to tell the Sec. of Ag. to find away to make it right. Don't know if Hollywood transposes to Washington.
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Obdicut Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:39:35pm |
re: #110 MandyManners
He is the president. All executive power flows from him.
Again:
What is your point? Can you please state it clearly?
Do you honestly feel that this decision by the USDA is Obama's "fault", and that is where you're going to place blame? Without any proof, any hint of proof that Obama has even been appraised of this situation? That, if he has, that he did more than say, "Let the Secretary handle it, it's his job?"
Why an immediate attack on Obama? What motivates that?
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cliffster Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:39:47pm |
re: #110 MandyManners
He is the president. All executive power flows from him.
So sayeth all the people blaming Bush for all the shitty stuff going on in the country long after he's left office. Why did you cause the oil spill, Bush?
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:40:23pm |
re: #107 Ojoe
Thin skills if you ask me.
You can argue that, but I would argue you can't argue that from this.
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Nimed Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:41:13pm |
re: #99 WindUpBird
You do not have the knowledge to make that assertion
Atrios tweets:
- heckuva job, white house
- i hope sherrod sues the hell out of everyone including the naacp
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Stanghazi Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:41:14pm |
re: #44 webevintage
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
Joseph N. Welch to Senator McCarthy
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:41:15pm |
re: #116 cliffster
So sayeth all the people blaming Bush for all the shitty stuff going on in the country long after he's left office. Why did you cause the oil spill, Bush?
Hey if Bush fucked up the MMS under tenure as President, and the f***ed up (or more exactly coked up) version of the MMS gave BP the permit to drill the well that sprung a leak (that brought the cat, that ate the rat) then it's not exactly a stretch to say some of the blame is Bush's fault...
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:41:23pm |
Mr. Spooner's cap commemorates the USS Yorktown (CV-5), the aircraft carrier lost at the epic battle of Midway in 1942. 40 men went down with the ship, there were 2,270 survivors. The wreck was re-discovered by Robert Ballard in 1998.
Mr. Spooner is 87 years old. I wonder if he is a veteran of that battle and that ship?
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darthstar Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:41:25pm |
re: #113 SanFranciscoZionist
How is he doing so?
She's just talking out her ass...she'll go back, read the previous three threads, then come back as if nothing happened and get on Breitbart's ass as soon as she realizes that's where Charles and most of us have been focusing attention.
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cliffster Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:41:41pm |
re: #120 jamesfirecat
Hey if Bush fucked up the MMS under tenure as President, and the f***ed up (or more exactly coked up) version of the MMS gave BP the permit to drill the well that sprung a leak (that brought the cat, that ate the rat) then it's not exactly a stretch to say some of the blame is Bush's fault...
hehe, yeah. hehe
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:41:54pm |
re: #110 MandyManners
He is the president. All executive power flows from him.
Yes, and he is also Neo in the Matrix, and every single subordinate in his administration is wetware jacked directly into his consciousness, so he has absolute knowledge of everything that is happening inside everyone's head, and he can move at the speed of light.
Also, he's the president, which means he has no responsibilities whatsoever besides doing damage control for the USDA. Why, I'd love it if he were to drop whatever he were doing right this instant, no matter how important, and make damn sure that that nice lady gets her job back right now at 8:40pm pacific as opposed to tomorrow morning.
Christ. 9_9
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:42:05pm |
re: #114 Jeff In Ohio
Damn realpolitik! I see your point, Vislak really fucked this up by not giving his employee a fair hearing, and that rankles me.
I suppose if this was Pres. Bartlett he'd just ask Leo McGarry to tell the Sec. of Ag. to find away to make it right. Don't know if Hollywood transposes to Washington.
I hope so. I'd like to hear what Rahm would say to Vilsack in that phone call.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:42:31pm |
re: #115 Obdicut
Again:
What is your point? Can you please state it clearly?
Do you honestly feel that this decision by the USDA is Obama's "fault", and that is where you're going to place blame? Without any proof, any hint of proof that Obama has even been appraised of this situation? That, if he has, that he did more than say, "Let the Secretary handle it, it's his job?"
Why an immediate attack on Obama? What motivates that?
it's the same meme all over again..don't play stupid just because you don't like the poster...the question is why hasn't or when will BO step on Vilsack to make this right...a legit question...nobody is blaming BO for this event
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Ojoe Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:42:48pm |
re: #117 SanFranciscoZionist
It remains to be seen on this, yes.
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avanti Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:43:11pm |
re: #82 albusteve
172?...hmmm
I doubt that
It's in the USAC record books at 165 MPH plus for the mile, but 172 at the end. 29 world records in all, beating Micky Thomson's 421 Pontiac by 15 MPH. The record stood for many years.
Ron Hall when over 200 MPH two years back with a modified, but still Studebaker engined Avanti a few years back.
Funny fact they discovered on the salt flats that they had to fix. At those speeds, the back glass would pop out at 140 plus.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:44:02pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:44:43pm |
re: #124 WindUpBird
Yes, and he is also Neo in the Matrix, and every single subordinate in his administration is wetware jacked directly into his consciousness, so he has absolute knowledge of everything that is happening inside everyone's head, and he can move at the speed of light.
Also, he's the president, which means he has no responsibilities whatsoever besides doing damage control for the USDA. Why, I'd love it if he were to drop whatever he were doing right this instant, no matter how important, and make damn sure that that nice lady gets her job back right now at 8:40pm pacific as opposed to tomorrow morning.
Christ. 9_9
Thanks. I started a few responses and gave up because I was cussing.
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Four More Tears Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:44:53pm |
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Jeff In Ohio Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:45:01pm |
re: #131 WindUpBird
This is so unbelievably passive aggressive
I prefer the aggressive passive. I need a good nap after putting out.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:45:13pm |
re: #130 avanti
It's in the USAC record books at 165 MPH plus for the mile, but 172 at the end. 29 world records in all, beating Micky Thomson's 421 Pontiac by 15 MPH. The record stood for many years.
Ron Hall when over 200 MPH two years back with a modified, but still Studebaker engined Avanti a few years back.
Funny fact they discovered on the salt flats that they had to fix. At those speeds, the back glass would pop out at 140 plus.
I give...I watched the whole vid...299 supercharged cubes for 172?...astounding actually
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Ojoe Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:45:28pm |
re: #130 avanti
Who has the world's fastest straight six?
My google-fu was not strong enough to find out.
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cliffster Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:45:32pm |
re: #131 WindUpBird
This is so unbelievably passive aggressive
awww, poor guy. she really gets under your skin doesn't she?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:45:52pm |
re: #132 SanFranciscoZionist
Thanks. I started a few responses and gave up because I was cussing.
I couldn't see the keyboard because I was too busy hitting it with my forehead :D
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:45:55pm |
re: #127 albusteve
it's the same meme all over again..don't play stupid just because you don't like the poster...the question is why hasn't or when will BO step on Vilsack to make this right...a legit question...nobody is blaming BO for this event
Mandy seems to feel that he has a responsibility to respond to this event though, and if he doesn't correct Vilsack's decision, he's 'throwing Sherrod under the bus'.
Of course, I guess if he does intervene, he's throwing Vilsack under the bus.
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Stanghazi Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:46:42pm |
re: #79 MandyManners
This is a departmental kefflufle?
Did you read any of the posts today? A departmental kefflufle? That's all?
(kerfuffle is correct)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:46:49pm |
re: #137 cliffster
awww, poor guy. she really gets under your skin doesn't she?
I guess you must have missed the part a few days ago where she came into a thread where everything was totally chill, attacked me and Windsagio with zero provocation and then was immediately timed out.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:46:52pm |
If I found me one of those magic lamps, the kind with the wish granting genies trapped inside, I would wish for:
1. Peace on Earth
2. Total and absolute equality for all humanity
3. A society so scientifically and technologically advanced that all ills physical, mental, emotional, and environmental were part of long forgotten, distant past
Incidentally, and of no relation to the above, I have a span crossing a major river that I'd be willing to part with if the price were right.
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Four More Tears Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:47:24pm |
re: #141 WindUpBird
I guess you must have missed the part a few days ago where she came into a thread where everything was totally chill, attacked me and Windsagio with zero provocation and then was immediately timed out.
I missed that!
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polkadot Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:47:29pm |
re: #139 SanFranciscoZionist
Sherrod herself said that this came from the White House.
Why would she say that if it were not true?
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Kefirah Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:48:07pm |
re: #21 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
what's disgusting is that some of the right has whitewashed the whole thing. forget defending breitbart - his role in this has gone slip.sliding down the memory hole.
i happened by a television when bill o'reilly was ranting away, and breitbart wasn't mentioned AT ALL.
instead [shockingly] he started smearing the obama administration for its "embarrassing failures" to address sherrod, van jones, etc.
i had to walk away. i value my brain cells.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:48:39pm |
re: #143 JasonA
I missed that!
I was talking about the Ford RS200 and the Buick GNX. Windsagio was talking about the Imperial Palace in Vegas. Apparently very provocative
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Cato the Elder Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:48:42pm |
Department of Upping the Ante:
So, half an hour ago, I get a phone call on my mobile.
Cato: "Hello?"
Caller: "We know where you live." Click.
Well, of course "they" know where I live.
Defcon: Heightened.
Let 'em come.
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polkadot Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:48:50pm |
re: #141 WindUpBird
Can you tell me what "timed out" means?
Thanks.
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goddamnedfrank Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:49:03pm |
re: #74 MandyManners
Bite my shiny metal ass!
I can bend what I want, when I want, who I want.
Talk to us about the DOJ / New Black Panthers, ACORN and Van Jones. What's that matter, billy goat got your tongue? Keep spreading those racist Breitbart memes. That's your job here.
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webevintage Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:49:21pm |
re: #144 polkadot
Sherrod herself said that this came from the White House.
Why would she say that if it were not true?
Ummmm, because that's what she was told.
I know, people never lie when they are trying to get you to do something you don't really want to do.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:49:32pm |
re: #148 polkadot
Can you tell me what "timed out" means?
Thanks.
it means your account is temporarily disabled, that you cannot post on the site for 24 hours
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:49:33pm |
re: #147 Cato the Elder
Department of Upping the Ante:
So, half an hour ago, I get a phone call on my mobile.
Cato: "Hello?"
Caller: "We know where you live." Click.
Well, of course "they" know where I live.
Defcon: Heightened.
Let 'em come.
What what what?
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:49:56pm |
re: #144 polkadot
Sherrod herself said that this came from the White House.
Why would she say that if it were not true?
Since when is Barrack Obama the only person who works out of the White House?
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:49:59pm |
re: #139 SanFranciscoZionist
Mandy seems to feel that he has a responsibility to respond to this event though, and if he doesn't correct Vilsack's decision, he's 'throwing Sherrod under the bus'.
Of course, I guess if he does intervene, he's throwing Vilsack under the bus.
BO does have a responsibility here...Vilsack answers to him and he fucked up...so what now?...when you kick it upstairs it's on BO plate
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CarleeCork Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:50:03pm |
re: #4 LudwigVanQuixote
Well, G-d willing, this will end up in a really big law suit that ends Breitbart's career and splashes Fox as well.
From your lips.....
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:50:08pm |
re: #150 webevintage
Ummm, because that's what she was told.
I know, people never lie when they are trying to get you to do something you don't really want to do.
I've never been lied to by my boss! never ever ever!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:50:15pm |
re: #147 Cato the Elder
Seriously?
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Kronocide Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:50:18pm |
re: #147 Cato the Elder
That's disturbing, but I guess that's what they wanted.
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b_sharp Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:50:35pm |
re: #144 polkadot
Sherrod herself said that this came from the White House.
Why would she say that if it were not true?
She was told it was.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:50:49pm |
re: #138 WindUpBird
I couldn't see the keyboard because I was too busy hitting it with my forehead :D
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:50:50pm |
re: #154 albusteve
BO does have a responsibility here...Vilsack answers to him and he fucked up...so what now?...when you kick it upstairs it's on BO plate
he does have a responsibility here, but he also doesn't operate at the speed of blog comments
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webevintage Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:51:02pm |
re: #121 Shiplord Kirel
Mr. Spooner's cap commemorates the USS Yorktown (CV-5), the aircraft carrier lost at the epic battle of Midway in 1942. 40 men went down with the ship, there were 2,270 survivors. The wreck was re-discovered by Robert Ballard in 1998.
Mr. Spooner is 87 years old. I wonder if he is a veteran of that battle and that ship?
I bet he is, but Breitbart says he is just a liberal plant....
God, what a bastard....
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:51:14pm |
re: #146 WindUpBird
I was talking about the Ford RS200 and the Buick GNX. Windsagio was talking about the Imperial Palace in Vegas. Apparently very provocative
no Camaro's?
the shame of it all
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cliffster Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:51:16pm |
re: #141 WindUpBird
I guess you must have missed the part a few days ago where she came into a thread where everything was totally chill, attacked me and Windsagio with zero provocation and then was immediately timed out.
nope, didn't see that. If it bothered you that much, though, perhaps you'd be better off just not talking to her.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:51:31pm |
re: #161 reine.de.tout
ahaha it's always funny
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:51:46pm |
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polkadot Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:51:47pm |
re: #156 WindUpBird
And the guy didn't think she would SAY anything about it?
She won a lawsuit against them last year, surely he didn't think she was some sort of shrinking violet!
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avanti Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:52:44pm |
re: #135 albusteve
I give...I watched the whole vid...299 supercharged cubes for 172?...astounding actually
Nothing beats cubic inches, except more boost. It helped that the Avanti is very aerodynamic too.
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cliffster Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:52:55pm |
re: #162 WindUpBird
he does have a responsibility here, but he also doesn't operate at the speed of blog comments
Breitbart's stalking a government employee.. get Obama on the phone stat!
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webevintage Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:52:57pm |
re: #169 polkadot
And the guy didn't think she would SAY anything about it?
She won a lawsuit against them last year, surely he didn't think she was some sort of shrinking violet!
head desk
Is there an LOL to go with this?
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Charles Johnson Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:53:05pm |
re: #169 polkadot
Amazing. Even after all this, you're still ranting away. Have you no shame?
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Cato the Elder Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:53:06pm |
re: #164 LudwigVanQuixote
Cato, could you please elaborate?
That's the whole story.
What, me worried? I'm a gun nut.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:53:07pm |
re: #166 cliffster
nope, didn't see that. If it bothered you that much, though, perhaps you'd be better off just not talking to her.
You're the one claiming it totally bothered me, which is interesting of you to assert
I'm just typing the truth here!
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Stanghazi Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:53:09pm |
re: #115 Obdicut
Again:
What is your point? Can you please state it clearly?
Do you honestly feel that this decision by the USDA is Obama's "fault", and that is where you're going to place blame? Without any proof, any hint of proof that Obama has even been appraised of this situation? That, if he has, that he did more than say, "Let the Secretary handle it, it's his job?"
Why an immediate attack on Obama? What motivates that?
She bailed!!! Always shows her bad attitude and bias, then bails.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:53:35pm |
re: #175 Cato the Elder
That's the whole story.
What, me worried? I'm a gun nut.
Do you think it is our little friends or merely a crank call?
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Racer X Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:53:35pm |
re: #147 Cato the Elder
Department of Upping the Ante:
So, half an hour ago, I get a phone call on my mobile.
Cato: "Hello?"
Caller: "We know where you live." Click.
Well, of course "they" know where I live.
Defcon: Heightened.
Let 'em come.
That's fucked up.
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:54:07pm |
re: #163 webevintage
I bet he is, but Breitbart says he is just a liberal plant...
God, what a bastard...
That's what I was thinking. Attacking an 87 year old Midway veteran in this manner is almost breathtakingly evil. Breitbart will be doubly damned to hell for it.
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avanti Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:54:39pm |
re: #154 albusteve
BO does have a responsibility here...Vilsack answers to him and he fucked up...so what now?...when you kick it upstairs it's on BO plate
I hate to agree, but I think the POTUS has to micromanage this one in a day or two.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:54:42pm |
re: #175 Cato the Elder
That's the whole story.
What, me worried? I'm a gun nut.
And if it is our little friends, I have been doing some research on them.
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cliffster Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:54:43pm |
re: #176 WindUpBird
You're the one claiming it totally bothered me, which is interesting of you to assert
I'm just typing the truth here!
I charge $200/hour for psychotherapy. We can conduct it over instant messaging but I only take cash or money order, because I don't technically have any certification.
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Stanghazi Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:54:52pm |
re: #122 darthstar
She's just talking out her ass...she'll go back, read the previous three threads, then come back as if nothing happened and get on Breitbart's ass as soon as she realizes that's where Charles and most of us have been focusing attention.
Oh, fucking a, quoted for truth.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:55:09pm |
re: #144 polkadot
Sherrod herself said that this came from the White House.
Why would she say that if it were not true?
Sherrod said, IIRC, that she was told by her superiors that the White House wanted this handled. I do not think we know (or she knows) who 'the White House' is in this case, nor how much they knew at the time.
If you have clearer knowledge, please share.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:56:02pm |
re: #162 WindUpBird
he does have a responsibility here, but he also doesn't operate at the speed of blog comments
I've already posted what I think and I only do that once, usually....BO should stay out of this publicly (sorry Ludwig)...Vilsack should be sacked and Sherrod should have whatever she wants for compensation...but most importantly, this is not a street fight BO needs or should get involved with...bad juju for the POTUS
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:56:14pm |
re: #153 jamesfirecat
Since when is Barrack Obama the only person who works out of the White House?
But all executive power flows from him!
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:56:30pm |
re: #154 albusteve
BO does have a responsibility here...Vilsack answers to him and he fucked up...so what now?...when you kick it upstairs it's on BO plate
How fucking convenient.
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Racer X Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:56:37pm |
re: #181 avanti
I hate to agree, but I think the POTUS has to micromanage this one in a day or two.
After he gets all the facts.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:56:56pm |
re: #73 MandyManners
Is the Secretay of Agriculure under the command of the president?
A down-ding for this question?
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:57:05pm |
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goddamnedfrank Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:57:11pm |
re: #177 Stanley Sea
She bailed!!! Always shows her bad attitude and bias, then bails.
She's still logged in, like a good little Breitbart troll she didn't go anywhere.
Talk to us about the DOJ / New Black Panthers, ACORN and Van Jones, troll.
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jaunte Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:57:18pm |
re: #121 Shiplord Kirel
Mr. Spooner's cap commemorates the USS Yorktown (CV-5), the aircraft carrier lost at the epic battle of Midway in 1942. 40 men went down with the ship, there were 2,270 survivors. The wreck was re-discovered by Robert Ballard in 1998.
Mr. Spooner is 87 years old. I wonder if he is a veteran of that battle and that ship?
Here's a reference:
It’s been more than 67 years since Roger Spooner stood on the deck of the U.S.S. Yorktown, watching an air parade of kamikaze pilots dive into the carrier while he loaded 54-pound shells to fire at circling Japanese planes in a frantic attempt to keep the ship from sinking at the Battle of Midway.
[Link: www2.dothaneagle.com...]
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:57:28pm |
re: #163 webevintage
I bet he is, but Breitbart says he is just a liberal plant...
God, what a bastard...
If Spooner were telling the tale Breitbart wanted, Breitbart would be kissing his ass.
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darthstar Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:57:33pm |
re: #187 SanFranciscoZionist
But all executive power flows from him!
That's what the FLOTUS says...and who can blame her?
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Cato the Elder Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:57:35pm |
re: #182 LudwigVanQuixote
And if it is our little friends, I have been doing some research on them.
It could be any number of little friends. I make enemies easily.
It bothers me not; they can try and hurt me, but I am ready.
Laser sights are a boon for when you get woken up at 4h by the best watchdog in the world.
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Stanghazi Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:57:53pm |
re: #137 cliffster
awww, poor guy. she really gets under your skin doesn't she?
And you defend her crapola that makes not a bit of sense, but is done to fire up the comments?
Why, por favor?
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Ojoe Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:58:11pm |
re: #192 goddamnedfrank
Where is the button to show who's logged in? I forgot how to find that out.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:58:12pm |
re: #185 SanFranciscoZionist
Sherrod said, IIRC, that she was told by her superiors that the White House wanted this handled. I do not think we know (or she knows) who 'the White House' is in this case, nor how much they knew at the time.
If you have clearer knowledge, please share.
We also don't know what was meant by "handle this". Could it have meant "find out what the real story is"? And the person who heard the "handle this" erroneously interpreted as "get that resignation"?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:58:17pm |
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:58:27pm |
re: #198 Ojoe
Where is the button to show who's logged in? I forgot how to find that out.
below the comment box.
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Kronocide Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:58:31pm |
I don’t know how Andrew Breitbart sleeps at night. What he did to Sherrod is beyond despicable. This was one of the most loathsome episodes of creepy right wing dishonesty I have ever witnessed.
I hear you CJ and don't disagree. However, it seems this episode has been severely blunted and the potential for big blowback on Breitbart and the great ConservoSpingMachine is heightened in this news cycle.
Nothing like going to work for a few hours and seeing the threads evolve on LGF as this plays out. Honco salute.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:58:38pm |
Wait a second, so she isn't a vile racist using the government's money to support blacks while letting whites lose their farms? Gee...you'd never know it from all the news broadcasts today...
(Except for Fox believe it or not, but they were only sticking up for her "cause Obama was against her," seemingly anyway. They were protesting her being hounded into resigning without lingering for any real thought about why.)
You know Breitbart really is an asshole of the very worst sort, too bad he was born 70 odd years too late to get a job at the "ministry of propaganda" since he would have been a natural there.
/implied Godwin.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:58:38pm |
re: #171 avanti
Nothing beats cubic inches, except more boost. It helped that the Avanti is very aerodynamic too.
I'm a big block guy...lots of iron to work with...but that vid was pretty impressive
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Gus Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:58:46pm |
re: #185 SanFranciscoZionist
Sherrod said, IIRC, that she was told by her superiors that the White House wanted this handled. I do not think we know (or she knows) who 'the White House' is in this case, nor how much they knew at the time.
If you have clearer knowledge, please share.
Hey maybe we should call up Andrew Breitbart and have him clear this up. Given his track record and accuracy in "journalism". //
Everything at this point is hearsay. The "it's Obama's fault" meme is obviously being promoted by the right wing bloggers -- I know, I've been keeping track of them almost all day on Twitter.
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webevintage Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:59:00pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:59:06pm |
re: #197 Stanley Sea
And you defend her crapola that makes not a bit of sense, but is done to fire up the comments?
Why, por favor?
No, they're all VERY HONEST AND VERY CONCERNED QUESTIONS
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goddamnedfrank Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:59:20pm |
re: #198 Ojoe
Where is the button to show who's logged in? I forgot how to find that out.
"show users" at the bottom.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:59:30pm |
re: #169 polkadot
And the guy didn't think she would SAY anything about it?
She won a lawsuit against them last year, surely he didn't think she was some sort of shrinking violet!
So, what's your scenario?
Here's mine: White House staffers become aware that this scandale has erupted in a small way. Someone several steps down from Barack Obama makes a call to the USDA and says "Get this handled. If the woman made a racist speech, get her out of there."
Sherrod then receives calls from her superiors, telling her that the White House wants the issue resolved (for intimidation factor), pressuring her to resign, and threatening bad consequences if she does not.
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prairiefire Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:59:37pm |
re: #176 WindUpBird
WUB~ There is a most excellent pic of Russell Brand dressed as Batman floating around on the tubes:[Link: pacificcoastnewsonline.celebuzz.com...]
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:59:41pm |
re: #193 jaunte
Here's a reference:
It’s been more than 67 years since Roger Spooner stood on the deck of the U.S.S. Yorktown, watching an air parade of kamikaze pilots dive into the carrier while he loaded 54-pound shells to fire at circling Japanese planes in a frantic attempt to keep the ship from sinking at the Battle of Midway.
[Link: www2.dothaneagle.com...]
Wow!
Great find!
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Jul 20, 2010 8:59:46pm |
However, this is and has been on Obama's plate. This is the chance for the black president to really smash the anti-black racists of the right. He will pass a golden opportunity to put these cretins on the defensive and deal them a blow that will resonate through the elections if he plays it right. Or, he could take a whimpy "moral high ground."
The bottom line is to come out and restore Shrrod and apologize to her publicly for being snookered by the lie machine of Fox and the teabags. Say flat out that they are and have always been the real racists and that America understands their race baiting, smears and slimy tactics. Use those exact words.
As Fox implodes with endless drivels of insanity, they will make a spectacle that no moderate can ignore, while further firing up the liberal base. It will also put the rubes on defense for one.
OR
Obama can just wuss out, because he "has more important things to do" as was suggested by several commenters here earlier.
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RadicalModerate Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:00:29pm |
A question for the legal-lizards here -
In my opinion, Shirley Sharrod has a pretty strong libel case against Andrew Brietbart.
The reasons I think so are threefold:
1. Andrew knowingly published a false story regarding her - When pushed with contradictory evidence, has not backed away from that story, but redirected it as a screed against the NAACP.
2. Shirley Sharrod has most definitely been harmed by this story, in the fact that it cost her job, and has done significant damage to her reputation.
3. From the statements that he's made during interviews, I have no doubt that this story was designed to damage her specifically, and the NAACP in a larger sense, in retaliation for the NAACP condemnation of racism within the Tea Party movement.
Thoughts?
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Nimed Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:00:39pm |
re: #188 SanFranciscoZionist
How fucking convenient.
Steve has half a point on this. Because of the publicity this has received, Obama will certainly have a say on it.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:00:45pm |
re: #181 avanti
I hate to agree, but I think the POTUS has to micromanage this one in a day or two.
At this point, I really hope he will, but it is EFFED UP that this is now being treated as a significant moment in the Obama administration.
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ssn697 Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:00:47pm |
This story reeks from every angle. Breitbart's disgusting charade, Fox News lapping it up despite Breitbart's reputation, Vilsack admitting he didn't know the story was from 24 years ago but refusing to take back the call for resignation, and the burying of what the REAL story should signify.
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Stanghazi Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:00:56pm |
re: #145 Kefirah
what's disgusting is that some of the right has whitewashed the whole thing. forget defending breitbart - his role in this has gone slip.sliding down the memory hole.
i happened by a television when bill o'reilly was ranting away, and breitbart wasn't mentioned AT ALL.
instead [shockingly] he started smearing the obama administration for its "embarrassing failures" to address sherrod, van jones, etc.
i had to walk away. i value my brain cells.
It's like a game plan against the administration, and the truth all in one.
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webevintage Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:01:50pm |
re: #214 LudwigVanQuixote
Obama can just wuss out, because he "has more important things to do" as was suggested by several commenters here earlier.
I think he had important things to do today.
I'm one supporter who hopes that this is on his list of important things to do tomorrow.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:02:31pm |
re: #211 SanFranciscoZionist
So, what's your scenario?
Here's mine: White House staffers become aware that this scandale has erupted in a small way. Someone several steps down from Barack Obama makes a call to the USDA and says "Get this handled. If the woman made a racist speech, get her out of there."
Sherrod then receives calls from her superiors, telling her that the White House wants the issue resolved (for intimidation factor), pressuring her to resign, and threatening bad consequences if she does not.
That is probably quite accurate.
The WH also could just have said "Handle it", and the person interpreted it to mean "get her out of here". We don't know.
Just sayin' the White House may not have been the ones to decide she needed to be out of there.
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Nimed Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:03:13pm |
By the way, as anybody been following the other story of the day, the Jornoulist stuff? Is there anything to that -- are liberal journalists really conspiring to produce the headlines?
/
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:03:31pm |
re: #188 SanFranciscoZionist
How fucking convenient.
it's the way it is...BO is not excluded because he is the smartest human on the planet...when people working for him fuck up they need to be bounced for it
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Kefirah Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:03:55pm |
re: #216 RadicalModerate
i kind of touched on this earlier.
i think her chances of winning a libel or defamation case are slim, because the statements he published were not false in the truest sense of the word. they were her own statements taken utterly out of context, but they were her own statements.
he will also likely argue that he didn't have the whole tape [which is irrelevant when you're discussing his hate.mongering and race.baiting, because either way, he's guilty of those charges], and therefore didn't know that the edited snippets "presented her in a false light" [and again, due to the fact that they were her own statements, i don't even think we'll get to this point of the argument].
sherrod is a public official, and the rules are slightly different. in a time when journalists are honest and report true facts, even with a bit of editorial diction, this is a boon to a democratic public. see: watergate.
unfortunately, it's situations like this, where the otherwise reasonable law keeps someone like sherrod from just compensation, that make my teeth grind at nigt.
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ssn697 Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:04:01pm |
She should be reinstated. She could be a strong voice for ending this racial divide. Obviously only a tiny piece to the puzzle, but this is (IMO) an important point for racial divisions. If Breitbart's attacks (like ACORN) are allowed to work, it will NEVER stop.
He doesn't care if the story is destroyed. He got what he wanted: a scalp.
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jaunte Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:04:16pm |
re: #213 reine.de.tout
I have a slow internet connection on a motel in Montrose Colorado, and this was the first hit on 'Midway veterans Spooner.' Breitbart can't even be pretending to check facts.
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:04:34pm |
re: #193 jaunte
Here's a reference:
It’s been more than 67 years since Roger Spooner stood on the deck of the U.S.S. Yorktown, watching an air parade of kamikaze pilots dive into the carrier while he loaded 54-pound shells to fire at circling Japanese planes in a frantic attempt to keep the ship from sinking at the Battle of Midway.
[Link: www2.dothaneagle.com...]
Fantastic find! Thanks, Jaunte.
And this is the man that Breitbart accuses of being a lib plant, a fraud. My honest response would probably get me banned at this point.
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webevintage Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:04:42pm |
re: #225 Nimed
By the way, as anybody been following the other story of the day, the Jornoulist stuff? Is there anything to that -- are liberal journalists really conspiring to produce the headlines?
/
Who knows.
Now that President Grizzly Mama has commented on it I have a feeling it will be the outrageous outrage on FOX in the AM so they can pretend today never happened.
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Stanghazi Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:05:39pm |
re: #193 jaunte
Here's a reference:
It’s been more than 67 years since Roger Spooner stood on the deck of the U.S.S. Yorktown, watching an air parade of kamikaze pilots dive into the carrier while he loaded 54-pound shells to fire at circling Japanese planes in a frantic attempt to keep the ship from sinking at the Battle of Midway.
[Link: www2.dothaneagle.com...]
OMG, how dare they try to smear this man.
tears
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:05:46pm |
re: #216 RadicalModerate
A question for the legal-lizards here -
Well, that counts me out right away. I'm here illegally.
/
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:05:47pm |
re: #222 webevintage
I think he had important things to do today.
I'm one supporter who hopes that this is on his list of important things to do tomorrow.
Fair enough. This is a golden chance to go on the offensive with these cretins. Everyone knows who the real racists are. Everyone knows that the GOP is still trying to stop jobs bills and only narrowly had their filibuster defeated to extend unemployment benefits. Everyone knows the GOP is anti-science and anti- education.
Everyone knows they are dirty racist scum who deal from the bottom of the deck everytime.
It is time for the good guys to take these SOBs down with the old-fashioned tactic of shining a light and speaking the truth directly.
It is time the GOP and Fox and the Teabaggs are called front and center for their racist ways. Name names - I love how the NAACP named Palin. Do it a lot. Just say it. As they get more unhinged they will give the gift of more ammo to use against them.
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A Man for all Seasons Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:06:18pm |
re: #178 LudwigVanQuixote
Do you think it is our little friends or merely a crank call?
Ludwig...Don't count out the wing nuts on the Internet..When I first came here I posted about my website Food4humanity.org My phone number and name were posted.. I got effen slammed and harassed by stalkers..I shut down the web site...food4humanity.org no longer exists and the crank calls have dialed down...it was ugly 18 months ago for me..But following Charles...
There is no way those folks are going to stop me from being who I am...effen them..
I live by this..Imagination is the foundation of reality...food4humanity got trashed..I got called a charity whore on the Internet...
I think I came out so much stronger and better because of it...I never had really honest to God had ever been attacked before...I had to stand up...
I saw the way Charles was being attacked and went, Please hoopster...You ain't got it bad..just change your phone number...
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:06:43pm |
re: #225 Nimed
By the way, as anybody been following the other story of the day, the Jornoulist stuff? Is there anything to that -- are liberal journalists really conspiring to produce the headlines?
/
No not really that would be the rightwing echo chamber projecting again.
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mikhailtheplumber Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:06:59pm |
re: #28 mikefromArlington
The argument is: "My soundbite was bogus, and I can't prove it, but I'm sticking to my guns in spite of all the evidence."
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Kefirah Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:07:13pm |
re: #220 Stanley Sea
and the kicker?
i'm afraid they're winning, because it's far easier to slouch 'round in a cesspool of ignorance than lift oneself up.
hate is like inertia - reversing course requires real effort of character, and methinks that might be beyond the resources of some of these people.
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Kronocide Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:07:36pm |
re: #223 reine.de.tout
That is probably quite accurate.
The WH also could just have said "Handle it", and the person interpreted it to mean "get her out of here". We don't know.
Just sayin' the White House may not have been the ones to decide she needed to be out of there.
Another plausible scenario: WH called them and asked what is going on, USDA said we're going to can here. WH says OK.
Sherrod's boss/deliverer says 'The call came from the WH.'
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:08:08pm |
Good nigh, L:zards.
Thank you for your kind words about The Kid and Petey.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:08:12pm |
re: #232 Stanley Sea
OMG, how dare they try to smear this man.
tears
Every time Breitbart does something like this, I assume that that's about as awful as he's going to get
and then he always surprises me
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:08:33pm |
re: #233 Slumbering Behemoth
Well, that counts me out right away. I'm here illegally.
/
///Hello Sir I'm from the Arizona police department, I'd like to ask you some questions...
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:08:44pm |
re: #234 LudwigVanQuixote
Fair enough. This is a golden chance to go on the offensive with these cretins. Everyone knows who the real racists are. Everyone knows that the GOP is still trying to stop jobs bills and only narrowly had their filibuster defeated to extend unemployment benefits. Everyone knows the GOP is anti-science and anti- education.
Everyone knows they are dirty racist scum who deal from the bottom of the deck everytime.
It is time for the good guys to take these SOBs down with the old-fashioned tactic of shining a light and speaking the truth directly.
It is time the GOP and Fox and the Teabaggs are called front and center for their racist ways. Name names - I love how the NAACP named Palin. Do it a lot. Just say it. As they get more unhinged they will give the gift of more ammo to use against them.
to be fair, the GOP wants the unemployment extensions to be paid for...sounds reasonable to me...why don't you express that point?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:09:02pm |
re: #230 Shiplord Kirel
Fantastic find! Thanks, Jaunte.
And this is the man that Breitbart accuses of being a lib plant, a fraud. My honest response would probably get me banned at this point.
I'd say it requires the deployment of The Aldrin.
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Kronocide Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:09:23pm |
re: #230 Shiplord Kirel
And this is the man that Breitbart accuses of being a lib plant, a fraud. My honest response would probably get me banned at this point.
Wow, a sailor on the Yorktown. Breitbart could get hammered for this... but who would do it?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:09:42pm |
re: #244 Slumbering Behemoth
RELEASE THE ALDRIN!
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webevintage Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:10:08pm |
re: #232 Stanley Sea
OMG, how dare they try to smear this man.
tears
Of course this can be used by others to say that Sherrod smeared him when she said he "talked down to her" or me when I wrote that rude jerks should realize that being rude does not get one what they need.
But yeah, old dude from GA a liberal plant who went on national TV and lied.....AB is a bastard.
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b_sharp Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:10:10pm |
re: #235 HoosierHoops
Ludwig...Don't count out the wing nuts on the Internet..When I first came here I posted about my website Food4humanity.org My phone number and name were posted.. I got effen slammed and harassed by stalkers..I shut down the web site...food4humanity.org no longer exists and the crank calls have dialed down...it was ugly 18 months ago for me..But following Charles...
There is no way those folks are going to stop me from being who I am...effen them..
I live by this..Imagination is the foundation of reality...food4humanity got trashed..I got called a charity whore on the Internet...
I think I came out so much stronger and better because of it...I never had really honest to God had ever been attacked before...I had to stand up...
I saw the way Charles was being attacked and went, Please hoopster...You ain't got it bad..just change your phone number...
{{Hoops
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mikhailtheplumber Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:10:51pm |
re: #49 Dark_Falcon
Well, I wish he could switch places with Lilo in jail right now. We could all use two weeks without having to
refuterefudiate his trumped up "news stories"
Fixed that for ya.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:11:19pm |
re: #245 BigPapa
Wow, a sailor on the Yorktown. Breitbart could get hammered for this... but who would do it?
it'd be great if some GOP luminary with military bona fides just released a statement savaging Breitbart for this as an unamerican worm
here's hoping
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Cato the Elder Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:11:28pm |
What I'm thinking is, one of the village idiots got drunk and decided to teach me a lesson.
My phone number is available on whitepages.com, so I got a little call.
Since last year they have known my real name, my locale, and what I and Haku look like, from a local paper.
Rodent constantly calls me out by my meatspace name on his blogs.
I have offended so many right-wingers that by now I must be on multiple lists.
I find it funny. With all the reading I do, at most I sleep three hours a night and if so much as a mouse goes by in my old, creaky house, Haku wakes up and alerts me.
But this is just one more little reminder of how much hate is out there.
Robert Spencer has publicly accused me of trying to destroy the "brave little band" of anti-jihadists, which of course includes Pamz. Whom I have intentionally maligned on this blog more times than I can count.
Here I stand. I can do no other.
And I'm always armed.
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Stanghazi Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:11:52pm |
re: #221 albusteve
fucking gossip monger...what's with all this back stabbing chatter, piling on and general mayhem?...why do you need to be so judgmental? it's petty
You earn it, you face it. Isn't that one of the LGF's credo's?
Give me a break with your blind support. Mandy dropped her bombs and left, as usual. You would give any "lefty" never ending crap if they did the same.
Eyes open, sorry.
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brownbagj Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:12:14pm |
You know, AB may not get sued or publicly stoned, but he may get something worse.
HE may find that his usual "news outlets" no longer take his calls. He may find that he no longer gets invited to parties.
Yes, his demise may not be public, it may be worse. He may become a pariah in his own circles.
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TedStriker Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:12:29pm |
re: #190 MandyManners
A down-ding for this question?
Yes, the Secretary of Agriculture is a Cabinet-level post.
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webevintage Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:13:20pm |
re: #253 brownbagj
Yes, his demise may not be public, it may be worse. He may become a pariah in his own circles.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed because I think that this would be, in his mind, the worst thing that would happen to him.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:13:26pm |
re: #250 WindUpBird
it'd be great if some GOP luminary with military bona fides just released a statement savaging Breitbart for this as an unamerican worm
here's hoping
Maybe we can get John McCain to do it.....
(Or maybe not....)
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TedStriker Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:13:48pm |
re: #253 brownbagj
You know, AB may not get sued or publicly stoned, but he may get something worse.
HE may find that his usual "news outlets" no longer take his calls. He may find that he no longer gets invited to parties.
Yes, his demise may not be public, it may be worse. He may become a pariah in his own circles.
From your lips to G-d's ear...
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:13:58pm |
Sorry dudes, I am just so pissed off right now. I feel awful for Sherrod, but I also just feel angry that Breitbart and his worthless pals have so managed to pull this shit off.
I am imagining for a moment, a scenario in which during the last administration, a dishonest, openly partisan, left-wing 'journalist' with a history of lying about shit smeared a government employee (white, I expect), with being a racist, and got her fired.
I am now trying to imagine a scenario in which that would be a litmus test for the administration of George W. Bush. And I'm imagining the response of some of our more Republican-leaning posters to the suggestion that really, the ball was in Bush's court over this, and a lot would depend on whether he personally betrayed or not the person set up by the journalist.
I'm really annoyed right now. I get it. Folks don't like Obama. Hell, half the time I'm mad at him myself. But for the love of God, people, this is disingenuous stupidness.
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Stanghazi Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:14:35pm |
re: #238 Kefirah
and the kicker?
i'm afraid they're winning, because it's far easier to slouch 'round in a cesspool of ignorance than lift oneself up.
hate is like inertia - reversing course requires real effort of character, and methinks that might be beyond the resources of some of these people.
Yeah.
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TedStriker Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:15:11pm |
re: #258 SanFranciscoZionist
Sorry dudes, I am just so pissed off right now. I feel awful for Sherrod, but I also just feel angry that Breitbart and his worthless pals have so managed to pull this shit off.
I am imagining for a moment, a scenario in which during the last administration, a dishonest, openly partisan, left-wing 'journalist' with a history of lying about shit smeared a government employee (white, I expect), with being a racist, and got her fired.
I am now trying to imagine a scenario in which that would be a litmus test for the administration of George W. Bush. And I'm imagining the response of some of our more Republican-leaning posters to the suggestion that really, the ball was in Bush's court over this, and a lot would depend on whether he personally betrayed or not the person set up by the journalist.
I'm really annoyed right now. I get it. Folks don't like Obama. Hell, half the time I'm mad at him myself. But for the love of God, people, this is disingenuous stupidness.
Here, here...
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brownbagj Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:16:19pm |
re: #258 SanFranciscoZionist
Not only is it disingenuous, it is dangerous. At some point, there is no going back.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:16:31pm |
re: #247 webevintage
Of course this can be used by others to say that Sherrod smeared him when she said he "talked down to her" or me when I wrote that rude jerks should realize that being rude does not get one what they need.
But yeah, old dude from GA a liberal plant who went on national TV and lied...AB is a bastard.
He may be a registered Democrat. Had we considered that?
//
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Stanghazi Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:16:33pm |
re: #250 WindUpBird
it'd be great if some GOP luminary with military bona fides just released a statement savaging Breitbart for this as an unamerican worm
here's hoping
Yeah, one of the ones out of office, maybe, hopefully.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:17:19pm |
re: #252 Stanley Sea
You earn it, you face it. Isn't that one of the LGF's credo's?
Give me a break with your blind support. Mandy dropped her bombs and left, as usual. You would give any "lefty" never ending crap if they did the same.
Eyes open, sorry.
you like being aggressive with no other motive than to juice yourself up...go for it, you have plenty of support here...to me there is a limit to what's important...lots of bombs get dropped so you have your work cut out for you
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:17:30pm |
re: #263 Stanley Sea
Yeah, one of the ones out of office, maybe, hopefully.
ANYONE, I'll take anyone. SOMEONE in the GOP to stand up to this human toilet about this.
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brownbagj Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:18:38pm |
re: #262 SanFranciscoZionist
I asked on another thread that maybe AB was right and these farmers are a plant. Has anyone rubbed their skin to make sure the whiteness is real? Could they be part of the ethanol lobbyist and have been "gotten to?"
// and again just in case /////
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Nimed Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:20:02pm |
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brownbagj Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:20:51pm |
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Stanghazi Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:21:54pm |
re: #264 albusteve
you like being aggressive with no other motive than to juice yourself up...go for it, you have plenty of support here...to me there is a limit to what's important...lots of bombs get dropped so you have your work cut out for you
Yeah right. Defend Mandy's stupid ass comments. Stupid comments to stir up the blog. She wasn't here all day then shows up with crap. I call her out. Now it's about me and my aggressiveness. (there's a term for turning it around like this isn't there?) I am not afraid of restating it, you can turn it on me, but it wasn't me. It was the mannerly lady.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:22:37pm |
re: #265 WindUpBird
ANYONE, I'll take anyone. SOMEONE in the GOP to stand up to this human toilet about this.
not likely...move on to the next outrage...Breitbart will walk and the whole issue will be history too soon...AmIdol politics
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Nimed Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:24:25pm |
re: #265 WindUpBird
ANYONE, I'll take anyone. SOMEONE in the GOP to stand up to this human toilet about this.
Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen. Sure, they will say that Sherrod should get her job back, blah blah, but denouncing Breitbart is way too risky.
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mikhailtheplumber Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:25:02pm |
re: #124 WindUpBird
... he has absolute knowledge of everything that is happening inside everyone's head, and he can move at the speed of light...
Christ. 9_9
Faster than the speed of light! He, like Jesus, is a living counterexample to the Theory of Relativity. ////
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:25:11pm |
re: #269 Stanley Sea
Yeah right. Defend Mandy's stupid ass comments. Stupid comments to stir up the blog. She wasn't here all day then shows up with crap. I call her out. Now it's about me and my aggressiveness. (there's a term for turning it around like this isn't there?) I am not afraid of restating it, you can turn it on me, but it wasn't me. It was the mannerly lady.
I'm not defending her comments...don't make shit up...it's not about Mandy, it's about you....you take the entire experience way to serious to the point of making some small thing unpleasant for the rest of us...let the small shit go
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:25:16pm |
re: #269 Stanley Sea
Yeah right. Defend Mandy's stupid ass comments. Stupid comments to stir up the blog. She wasn't here all day then shows up with crap. I call her out. Now it's about me and my aggressiveness. (there's a term for turning it around like this isn't there?) I am not afraid of restating it, you can turn it on me, but it wasn't me. It was the mannerly lady.
it's the right thing to do.
This isn't some old-boy's network where everyone just agrees to agree and get along. There's people here who have been here all day as this thing was breaking, who were actually participating, and not just laying blind stinkers about Obama and then running out.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:26:20pm |
re: #266 brownbagj
I asked on another thread that maybe AB was right and these farmers are a plant. Has anyone rubbed their skin to make sure the whiteness is real? Could they be part of the ethanol lobbyist and have been "gotten to?"
// and again just in case ///
Underneath their makeup, the Spooners are probably Dave Chappelle and one of the Wayans Brothers.
//
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:27:21pm |
re: #271 Nimed
Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen. Sure, they will say that Sherrod should get her job back, blah blah, but denouncing Breitbart is way too risky.
I'm wondering if they will say that. Guess we'll see!
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albusteve Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:27:39pm |
re: #274 WindUpBird
it's the right thing to do.
This isn't some old-boy's network where everyone just agrees to agree and get along. There's people here who have been here all day as this thing was breaking, who were actually participating, and not just laying blind stinkers about Obama and then running out.
so gimme a cigar....
find me some vodka if you wanna move up
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Stanghazi Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:29:24pm |
re: #273 albusteve
I'm not defending her comments...don't make shit up...it's not about Mandy, it's about you...you take the entire experience way to serious to the point of making some small thing unpleasant for the rest of us...let the small shit go
Oh Steve.
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Stanghazi Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:31:22pm |
re: #274 WindUpBird
it's the right thing to do.
This isn't some old-boy's network where everyone just agrees to agree and get along. There's people here who have been here all day as this thing was breaking, who were actually participating, and not just laying blind stinkers about Obama and then running out.
It's a joke. Stand up for your comments, and for your FRIEND'S comments.
Steve? what about Mandy's comments? I should've scrolled right? Like the other 4 people who responded, you single out me?
A la blog psychology.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jul 20, 2010 10:20:03pm |
re: #279 Stanley Sea
It's a joke. Stand up for your comments, and for your FRIEND'S comments.
Steve? what about Mandy's comments? I should've scrolled right? Like the other 4 people who responded, you single out me?
A la blog psychology.
Fight back against the evil Liberal New Culture of LGF!!!11
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Stanghazi Tue, Jul 20, 2010 10:25:04pm |
Does anyone watch RESCUE ME?
this damn tv show is too much good
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sffilk Wed, Jul 21, 2010 6:18:49am |
Breitbart was on "Good Morning, America" this morning, saying that 1) he was trying to show that the NAACP is racist; and 2) when he went to the mainstream media with "4 videos" showing that the "n" word was not used at that rally in Washington, DC, a few months ago, that all the mainstream media would have nothing to do with the videos; thus, the mainstream media was more interested in slamming the Tea Party than publishing the truth. When asked by Mr. Stefanopolous why didn't he just put the videos out there, Mr. Breitbart said words to the effect of, "How about you put them on TV right now?"
I merely report what I saw this morning.
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laZardo Wed, Jul 21, 2010 7:53:09am |
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