Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. #5: 'What Ever Happened To Scorpio?'

Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. #5: ‘What Ever Happened To Scorpio?’

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Tonight’s classic cover from the Lizard Collection: issue #5 of Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD, published in October 1968. The gorgeous psychedelic cover is by the great Jim Steranko, who also wrote the story and pencilled the interior artwork.

Our copy of this book is in very fine to near mint condition, with an almost flawless cover, white paper, and super-bright inks. It looks and feels like it just came off the rack today.

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233 comments

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jul 25, 2010 12:34:27am

Repost:

Okay, this is just too freaking cool:

Interactive Mirror

Imagine trying to read your favorite blog while shaving at the same time.

"Hey boss, this is The Behemoth, I can't come into work today".

"Why not"?

"I'm calling in 'stupid'. I cut myself reading".

The Left Sun, Jul 25, 2010 12:37:28am

OK-- we have loads of clever and artistically talented lizards around-- someone needs to photoshop these nick fury covers and do a series in pages like "Dick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D., : Shit Head Idiot Extremists Leading the Deluded."

We could swap in and out faces of geller, Breitbart, other wingnut bloggers et al as needed. Help!

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jul 25, 2010 12:44:43am

360° Tribute To MC Escher

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jul 25, 2010 1:04:13am

Man, this thread is moving fast. I can barely keep up.

Irenicum Sun, Jul 25, 2010 1:18:09am

re: #4 Slumbering Behemoth

It's the invasion meme. Just too damn fast.

goddamnedfrank Sun, Jul 25, 2010 1:32:03am

You win this time Nick Shield, but someday soon my Big Mexican Ladies will be victorious.

goddamnedfrank Sun, Jul 25, 2010 1:33:46am

re: #6 goddamnedfrank

or Nick Fury, whatever yer fuckin' name is. Clearly time to hit the sack.

Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 3:21:28am

Wow. Everyone is sleeping. Think I'll take my pants off.

Aye Pod Sun, Jul 25, 2010 3:24:21am

Morning!

Youtube Video

Aye Pod Sun, Jul 25, 2010 3:26:16am

re: #9 Jimmah

Morning!

[Video]

And here's the embeddable version. d'oh

Youtube Video

Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 3:27:10am

I did a 3 mile walk on Friday. None yesterday because of rain. Thinking of a 2 and a half one this morning.

Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 3:28:23am

re: #10 Jimmah

Very cool.

Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 3:30:56am

Dallas 1 PM.

Aye Pod Sun, Jul 25, 2010 3:42:29am

re: #13 Cannadian Club Akbar

Dallas 1 PM.

Saxon -hilarious!

"This is Scandanavian 101
For Gods sake get the ground lights on"

Youtube Video

Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 3:43:34am

re: #14 Jimmah

Saxon -hilarious!

"This is Scandanavian 101
For Gods sake get the ground lights on"

[Video]

My metal years!!!

Darth Vader Gargoyle Sun, Jul 25, 2010 3:43:40am

Good Morning Lizards!

Today's Simpsons quote:

Homer: I saw this movie about a bus that had to SPEED around a city, keeping its SPEED over fifty, and if its SPEED dropped, it would explode! I think it was called, The Bus That couldn't Slow Down.

A/C in the house couldn't keep up yesterday as DC got into the low 100s. Ready for some cooler weather.

windsagio Sun, Jul 25, 2010 3:45:12am

Lol, phoneposting. That's a weird looking Nick on that cover

Aye Pod Sun, Jul 25, 2010 3:45:51am

The Fall - The Mixer

Youtube Video

Aye Pod Sun, Jul 25, 2010 3:48:51am

re: #17 windsagio

Lol, phoneposting. That's a weird looking Nick on that cover

He looks kinda butthurt. Friend of Batman's maybe? ;-)

Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 3:53:06am

Flair. Heh. Love this.

Aye Pod Sun, Jul 25, 2010 3:54:03am

Yello - Blender

Youtube Video

Aye Pod Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:06:33am

re: #4 Slumbering Behemoth

Man, this thread is moving fast. I can barely keep up.

Yer no kiddin.

Youtube Video

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:13:50am

re: #20 Cannadian Club Akbar

Was on the television the other day. Watched it again...

Fifteenth time or so...

RogueOne Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:14:01am

re: #11 Cannadian Club Akbar

I did a 3 mile walk on Friday. None yesterday because of rain. Thinking of a 2 and a half one this morning.

Why all the walking? DUI?

Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:15:34am

re: #24 RogueOne

Why all the walking? DUI?

Har. I hate riding bikes.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:15:43am

re: #11 Cannadian Club Akbar

You have to stay in shape. My grandmother, she started walking
five miles a day when she was 60. She's 97 today and we don't know
where the hell she is.
-Ellen DeGeneris

RogueOne Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:16:33am

re: #23 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Was on the television the other day. Watched it again...

Fifteenth time or so...

Mike Judge is a genius. He should have his own cable station.

Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:16:43am

Everyone is so funny today!!!
/

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:20:44am

heh

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:22:05am

Heh... again...

Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:23:03am

re: #29 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

heh

I fucking love that clip.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:24:34am

re: #27 RogueOne

About (censored) years ago, I was in Tempe, AZ at the comedy club there. Picked up a comic book... very odd... had it for five years or so... then saw my first Beavis and Butthead episode...

Thought it looked familiar... Comic book was a Mike Judge waaay before he got famous.

Then? Like a dumb ass? Threw it away.

Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:24:52am

re: #30 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Heh... again...

I have a 44 ounce Louisville Slugger.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:25:58am

Stop worrying. Hamas is doing very well, thank you very much.

Aye Pod Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:28:16am

GOP congressman threatens seccession if health care law stands

Gene, July 24th 2010, 6:25 pm

In the past I’ve ridiculed a subset of American liberals and Democrats for an annoying tendency to threaten to leave the country– most often for Canada– if things don’t go their way politically. In the end, they rarely do. And at least some liberals have a sense of humor about it...

But there’s a corresponding (and much more disturbing) phenomenon on the conservative side, which seems to be moving from the Right’s extreme wing closer to its mainstream.

Republican Congressman Zach Wamp of Tennessee, who is a candidate for governor in the state’s GOP primary, said that if the federal health care reform law passed by Congress this year isn’t repealed, states will have to consider breaking away from the US.

[Link: hurryupharry.org...]

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:28:24am

re: #22 Jimmah

Oh, hell. I just watched that.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:29:15am

re: #35 Jimmah

The "epitome of hyperbole".

Aye Pod Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:32:56am

re: #37 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The "epitome of hyperbole".

Dangerous hyperbole.

RogueOne Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:34:11am

re: #35 Jimmah

Zach Wamp recants secession talk
[Link: www.examiner.com...]

Wamp, a Chattanooga congressman, raised the specter of secession in an interview with Hotline on Call. Wamp, talking tough, claimed: "I hope that the American people will go to the ballot box in 2010 and 2012 so that states are not forced to consider separation from this government."

Wamp is currently running for Governor of Tennessee. His opponents for the GOP nomination, Knoxville Mayor Bill Haslam and state Senate Speaker Ron Ramsey, were quick to criticize his over the top statement.

On Saturday Wamp recanted his wild eyed rhetoric. Wamp told reporters at a campaign stop that: "Of course we will not secede from the union. But we will also not have a governor who will cave in to Barack Obama."

Wamp seems to be taking a cue from Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R). Perry played the crazy card by raising the specter of session in 2009 at a Tea Party rally.

As a former resident of Knoxville, I'm rooting for Haslam.

Aye Pod Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:37:39am

Casual Parents

Youtube Video

laters

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:47:24am

re: #39 RogueOne

I had never heard of him. Don't live in TN, so, why should I have?

Question, quote from his WIKI...

Haslam was formerly a member of the Mayors Against Illegal Guns Coalition, but resigned early in 2009 and became a member of the National Rifle Association.

Why can't you belong to both? Looks like political weinie-ism.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:49:36am

re: #38 Jimmah

I don't think so. Stupid hyperbole, IMO.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:50:21am

re: #24 RogueOne

John Deere was stolen.

Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:50:36am

re: #41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I had never heard of him. Don't live in TN, so, why should I have?

Question, quote from his WIKI...

Why can't you belong to both? Looks like political weinie-ism.

Which way the wind blows...

RogueOne Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:51:19am

re: #41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I had never heard of him. Don't live in TN, so, why should I have?

Question, quote from his WIKI...

Why can't you belong to both? Looks like political weinie-ism.

I'm a homer. He's the mayor of a college town so I would assume he'd be on the left side of the republican aisle.

Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:51:48am

re: #43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

John Deere was stolen.

Just shut up!!!
///

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:52:58am

re: #45 RogueOne

My point (probably silly) is that I don't see a clashing of ideas between an "Anti-Illegal gun coalition" and the "NRA".

RogueOne Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:53:54am

This is ironically on-topic. ComicCon VS. Fred Phelps

Super Heroes vs. the Westboro Baptist Church
[Link: www.comicsalliance.com...]

Image: counterproestt3-1279836983.jpg

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:53:54am

re: #45 RogueOne

You still in TN?

Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:54:45am

re: #49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You still in TN?

Indiana.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:55:19am

re: #50 Cannadian Club Akbar

There's a Tennessee, Indiana?

RogueOne Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:57:14am

re: #49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You still in TN?

No. I only lived in Knoxville for a couple years almost 20 years ago. I still visit almost every year though. Nice part of the country and the closest thing to real mountains east of the Mississippi.

Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:57:25am

re: #51 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There's a Tennessee, Indiana?

No. Yo know when yo are in Indiana.
/Abmer waves of grain

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:58:18am

re: #52 RogueOne

Bite me... I live at 1200 feet! Shenandoah Valley baby! Can I get a woot!

RogueOne Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:58:47am

re: #51 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There's a Tennessee, Indiana?

No but there is a Nashville, IN. A total rip-off of Gatlinburg:
[Link: www.nashville-indiana.com...]

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:59:45am

Later, both of ya!

Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:59:55am

re: #54 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Bite me... I live at 1200 feet! Shenandoah Valley baby! Can I get a woot!

I live a 3 feet. No.

RogueOne Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:01:09am

re: #54 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Bite me... I live at 1200 feet! Shenandoah Valley baby! Can I get a woot!

Knoxville and the mountains are great when you're a poor college kid. There's just so much to do that doesn't cost much more than a tank of gas. The Army sent me to southern AZ after I left knoxville where I had the opportunity to see what real mountains were like, been in love ever since.

Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:03:54am

out for a bit. Rouge hold down the Fort!!

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:27:17am

Testing.

Not my tattoo... but an unfortunate one... and fitting... since I am the holiest lizard.

And humble.

RogueOne Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:33:43am

The Penn and Teller Bullshit episode on Criminal Justice was great. It starts off with a long segment on Richard Paey. Everyone who believes our justice system is working correctly should have to sit down and watch Richard tell his f'ed up story.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:35:23am

re: #61 RogueOne

I don't have Showtime.

Cathypop Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:01:52am

Hello. Anybody here?

RadicalModerate Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:10:58am

Latest in the compost pile that consists of Andrew Brietbart apologists comes from Terrence Smith from the Examiner:

Hey, Tom, watch the tape again! She was not - repeat, not - quoted out of context!

For added deranged hilarity, note his spelling of President Obama's name with a numerical "0".

So the bottom line here appears to be that liberals in and out of the 0bama administration are arguing that Shirley Sherrod isn't a racist; she's a class warrior! Well thank goodness for that! She'll fit right in with the rest of the 0bamanauts, who engage in class warfare on a regular, if not daily, basis. But if she's a racist too, as appears to be the case, in spite of liberal protestations to the contrary, not to worry. She fits right in with 0bama's clique quite well in that regard as well.

It's the rest of us mainstream Americans that don't fit in with 0bama's vision of "hope" and "change." Our founding fathers gave us a Constitution that made us the greatest and most prosperous nation on the face of the earth, but now, somehow, we've elected a President and Congress that would like to change all that.

Of course, he'd NEVER engage in race-baiting, as evidenced by his article from two weeks ago regarding the NAACP (BTW, nice placement of quotemarks there, Mr. Smith.)

The increasingly irrelevant NAACP

Hard times have fallen on the National Association for the Advancement of "Colored" People - the NAACP. The organization was founded to fight racism, and while racism surely still exists in America, it's been on the decline for decades, particularly institutional racism. Furthermore, black Americans increasingly engage in racist activities as much as or more than they're victimized by them, so that this disgusting practice has unfortunately become much more of a two-way street. The NAACP, however, seems to be stuck in the 1950s and be unaware of this fact.

What, me worry? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:27:20am

Morning lizards!

They're talking about Shirley Sherrod on Meet the Press. They haven't mentioned Breitbart by name yet, which I think is a shame.

What, me worry? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:28:02am

re: #65 marjoriemoon

Morning lizards!

They're talking about Shirley Sherrod on Meet the Press. They haven't mentioned Breitbart by name yet, which I think is a shame.

Ooop.... they got him!! I spoke to soon!

pharmmajor Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:40:02am

Whatever happened to Scorpio... I think Harry Callahan killed him.

Mich-again Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:42:12am

I've been on a bit of a book reading kick lately. I read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas by HST yesterday. Yikes. If that account was anywhere close to the truth, that guy was some kind of Superhuman druggie. He should have been dead from a massive OD before they ever got to Vegas.

darthstar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:42:34am

re: #66 marjoriemoon

Ooop... they got him!! I spoke to soon!

Are they defending him or roasting him?

Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:45:02am

Sad news this morning
Local officials: Abducted U.S. service member killed

What, me worry? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:53:26am

re: #69 darthstar

Are they defending him or roasting him?

They're talking about the idea of bringing racism out in the open in this administration - our inability to discuss racism, but there's a woman on the panel who is the WH communications director who specifically said that Breitbart aired the video to try to prove that the NAACP is a racist organization, so that was terrific.

EJ Dionne is on the panel and I adore that man. He wrote a column about it which is coming out tomorrow, but highlighted all the points we talk about here on LGF.

Someone else was quoted, I didn't catch the name, as saying the Whitehouse should have a department that specifically deals with this issue. I think that's wise. As an example, Israel has a government dept that deals with anti-Semitism which was originally headed by Sharansky before he retired.

William of Orange Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:01:41am

This is right up in Charles Johnson's alley.

Wired:
Help BP Learn How to Use Photoshop

What, me worry? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:05:29am

re: #71 marjoriemoon

They're talking about the idea of bringing racism out in the open in this administration - our inability to discuss racism, but there's a woman on the panel who is the WH communications director who specifically said that Breitbart aired the video to try to prove that the NAACP is a racist organization, so that was terrific.

EJ Dionne is on the panel and I adore that man. He wrote a column about it which is coming out tomorrow, but highlighted all the points we talk about here on LGF.

Someone else was quoted, I didn't catch the name, as saying the Whitehouse should have a department that specifically deals with this issue. I think that's wise. As an example, Israel has a government dept that deals with anti-Semitism which was originally headed by Sharansky before he retired.

Sorry I misquoted that. Gregory quoted a column from Maureen Dowd and she talked about a dept to deal with racism.

It was Donna Brazile, a Democratic strategist, who, after hearing the entire speech, pushed to get it out and helped clear Sherrod's reputation on CNN.
The president shouldn't give Sherrod her old job back. He should give her a new job: Director of Black Outreach. This White House needs one.

Dowd interviewed Congressman Clyburn (D-SC) in that article who said:

"I don't think a single black person was consulted before Shirley Sherrod was fired - I mean c'mon," said Congressman James Clyburn of South Carolina, a black lawmaker so temperate that he agreed with an op-ed piece in The Wall Street Journal on Friday by Sen. James Webb of Virginia, which urged that "government-directed diversity programs should end."
"The president's getting hurt real bad," Clyburn told me. "He needs some black people around him." He said Obama's inner circle keeps "screwing up" on race: "Some people over there are not sensitive at all about race. They really feel that the extent to which he allows himself to talk about race would tend to pigeonhole him or cost him support, when a lot of people saw his election as a way to get the issue behind us. I don't think people elected him to disengage on race. Just the opposite."

But then why would he want government diversity programs to end? Maybe I'm missing something.

Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:27:36am

re: #47 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My point (probably silly) is that I don't see a clashing of ideas between an "Anti-Illegal gun coalition" and the "NRA".

Some of other mayors in that coalition (like Daley of Chicago) are vehemently anti-gun Democrats. He likely felt he could not be associated with them.

Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:30:31am

re: #73 marjoriemoon

But then why would he want government diversity programs to end? Maybe I'm missing something.

He may thing they now do more harm than good. I certainly agree with Jim Webb on the matter.

SixDegrees Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:32:18am

re: #68 Mich-again

I've been on a bit of a book reading kick lately. I read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas by HST yesterday. Yikes. If that account was anywhere close to the truth, that guy was some kind of Superhuman druggie. He should have been dead from a massive OD before they ever got to Vegas.

Thompson was definitely a drug aficionado, but F&L is way over the top. No one could have written so well while sustaining such abuse.

Especially when one considers the sheer silliness involved in mainlining human adrenal gland extract...

Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:34:27am

re: #73 marjoriemoon

I think it would be a serious mistake for Obama to get too involved in race issues either way. The whole reason he was elected is because he's not a Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton race obsessed black politician. I think that's part of the strategy of the new racist right to force Obama into meddling in racial affairs. The best strategy is let the right wing activists target blacks and let them discredit themselves. Don't get more involved that he has to.
As for affirmative action; I don't like racial hiring quotas but now is probably not the time to rethink the practice. Let's see how the new Republican white rights agenda proceeds before we make any decisions about our future.

Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:36:57am

re: #77 Killgore Trout

I think it would be a serious mistake for Obama to get too involved in race issues either way. The whole reason he was elected is because he's not a Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton race obsessed black politician. I think that's part of the strategy of the new racist right to force Obama into meddling in racial affairs. The best strategy is let the right wing activists target blacks and let them discredit themselves. Don't get more involved that he has to.
As for affirmative action; I don't like racial hiring quotas but now is probably not the time to rethink the practice. Let's see how the new Republican white rights agenda proceeds before we make any decisions about our future.

Have to concur. I wouldn't use the phrase "white rights agenda", but I do agree that the right would like to demonize Obama over race issues. People can talk about getting past race, but its still as politically toxic as it ever was.

Daniel Ballard Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:41:53am

re: #77 Killgore Trout

If he gets a second term, that would be a perfect issue to address. It could come from a black man with leadership skills far sooner than a white man with the same skill methinks. In fact the Sherrod incident may have advanced the dialog some. Compelling lady.

Daniel Ballard Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:43:49am

re: #2 iceweasel

OK-- we have loads of clever and artistically talented lizards around-- someone needs to photoshop these nick fury covers and do a series in pages like "Dick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D., : Shit Head Idiot Extremists Leading the Deluded."

We could swap in and out faces of geller, Breitbart, other wingnut bloggers et al as needed. Help!

Okay Ice I know you are not logged in, I just hope you see this later. I'm up for that photoshop comic job. The Satire Soiree crew is here for ya!

reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:50:45am

re: #80 Rightwingconspirator

Okay Ice I know you are not logged in, I just hope you see this later. I'm up for that photoshop comic job. The Satire Soiree crew is here for ya!

Hey, RWC!
Just took a look at your moon photos. Wow.

Where is LWC?
I saw he said a "hello" to me on a previous thread, but I wasn't at the 'puter and didn't see it 'til much later. Pls let him know I was not being rude!

Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:54:26am

re: #79 Rightwingconspirator

If he gets a second term, that would be a perfect issue to address. It could come from a black man with leadership skills far sooner than a white man with the same skill methinks. In fact the Sherrod incident may have advanced the dialog some. Compelling lady.

Good point.

William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:54:39am

re: #41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Good Morning,

It's because Mayors Against Illegal Guns Coalition is Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg's "there should be no such thing as a legal gun" organization. While a real group dedicated to working on lowering access to firearms by felons might well be something useful to the country, this was not it. The NRA and it's ilk delight in pointing this out and putting pressure on those mayors that belonged to it. Combine it with the 2 recent Supreme Court cases and it's a no-brainer for a Tennessee politician to choose the NRA over Bloomberg.

Please note that even as a gun owner, I have no love for the NRA. Everytime those ... people... open their mouths they tend to damage gun owners with the vast middle. Rather like too many other conservative groups these days. But in the end, the Mayors Against Illegal Guns Coalition is worse than the NRA and the number of mayors defecting from it shows the position of weakness that it finds itself in.

Daniel Ballard Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:57:52am

re: #81 reine.de.tout

Hey, RWC!
Just took a look at your moon photos. Wow.

Where is LWC?
I saw he said a "hello" to me on a previous thread, but I wasn't at the 'puter and didn't see it 'til much later. Pls let him know I was not being rude!

Hi
First, congrats on the storm dissipating.
Thanks for the kind words, getting the palm tree right was an interesting challenge.
LWC-No offense taken, I'm sure. As you can see LWC has a profoundly anti idiotarian outlook on things. He rarely posts, as a working writer he's reading blogs to relax and enjoy. Posting is more like work from his pov. Here and Crooks & Liars are his faves.

Daniel Ballard Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:59:31am

re: #83 wlewisiii

Please note that even as a gun owner, I have no love for the NRA.

Agreed. I was a contributor to the 2nd Amend. Foundation for years. Instead of the NRA.

William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:03:49am

re: #85 Rightwingconspirator

That's good to know - I've been considering donating to them but didn't know anyone who did support the group. I'll look at them more closely now.

reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:07:26am

re: #84 Rightwingconspirator

Hi
First, congrats on the storm dissipating.
Thanks for the kind words, getting the palm tree right was an interesting challenge.
LWC-No offense taken, I'm sure. As you can see LWC has a profoundly anti idiotarian outlook on things. He rarely posts, as a working writer he's reading blogs to relax and enjoy. Posting is more like work from his pov. Here and Crooks & Liars are his faves.

Yes, we're quite happy Bonnie Burned out. We've gotten a small bit of rain, that's about it.
However, storm luck may not hold, August is our worst month, and it's coming up fast.

What, me worry? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:14:11am

re: #77 Killgore Trout

I think it would be a serious mistake for Obama to get too involved in race issues either way. The whole reason he was elected is because he's not a Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton race obsessed black politician. I think that's part of the strategy of the new racist right to force Obama into meddling in racial affairs. The best strategy is let the right wing activists target blacks and let them discredit themselves. Don't get more involved that he has to.
As for affirmative action; I don't like racial hiring quotas but now is probably not the time to rethink the practice. Let's see how the new Republican white rights agenda proceeds before we make any decisions about our future.

Sorry I was walking the pup.

I don't agree. It's the 2 ton elephant in the room that no one wants to look at. Obama has spent a lot of time talking about race. He's written about it in his book. He gave the speech on race in 2008 which was one of the most eloquent speeches anyone has every given. So it's not like he hasn't addressed it.

OTOH, you're right that he doesn't want to be seen as the "Black" president per se, particularly with regard to any specific policy. He's the American president who just happens to be Black. However, I think with the surge of racism, having a diversity committee in the WH isn't such a bad idea. Not just about Blacks, but dealing with minority bigotry in general. Most companies have such committees now.

Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:14:12am

re: #83 wlewisiii

Good Morning,

It's because Mayors Against Illegal Guns Coalition is Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg's "there should be no such thing as a legal gun" organization. While a real group dedicated to working on lowering access to firearms by felons might well be something useful to the country, this was not it. The NRA and it's ilk delight in pointing this out and putting pressure on those mayors that belonged to it. Combine it with the 2 recent Supreme Court cases and it's a no-brainer for a Tennessee politician to choose the NRA over Bloomberg.

Please note that even as a gun owner, I have no love for the NRA. Everytime those ... people... open their mouths they tend to damage gun owners with the vast middle. Rather like too many other conservative groups these days. But in the end, the Mayors Against Illegal Guns Coalition is worse than the NRA and the number of mayors defecting from it shows the position of weakness that it finds itself in.

That does explain things and settle matters. Bill Haslam was right to walk away from Bloomburg's organization, especially after the Heller decision.

BBL

goddamnedfrank Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:15:05am

Whatever you do, don’t try and take a seat from an eager fan at Comic-Con. Things could get vicious.
E! Online reports a man was taken to the hospital after being stabbed in the face with a pen. He was taken out of the San Diego Convention Center yesterday on a stretcher and suffered a minor cut near his eyelid. The assailant was escorted out of the convention center’s H Hall in plastic restraints. He was arrested and charged for assault with a deadly weapon. The victim’s blood was splattered on his free Harry Potter Comic-Con t-shirt that was given out earlier at the convention.

/seamy underbelly

What, me worry? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:20:01am

Watching This Week... interesting.

Donna Brasille says the racism conversation cannot start in the Whitehouse. It should be talked about among citizens. Cokie Roberts doesn't agree. She said it should start from the WH. I love Donna, but I'm with Cokie on this one.

pharmmajor Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:35:09am

Jacob Weisberg slams Meg Ryan and other airheaded celebs for their boycott of Israel:

[Link: www.newsweek.com...]

Cato the Elder Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:38:42am

re: #92 pharmmajor

Jacob Weisberg slams Meg Ryan and other airheaded celebs for their boycott of Israel:

[Link: www.newsweek.com...]

Wait, what? Meg hasn't died of plastic surgery yet?

Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:47:48am

Morning...I used the N word yesterday and got called a racist. Dunno why it's not okay to say NASCAR anymore.

Cato the Elder Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:50:22am

I'm going to miss Daniel Schorr.

In fact, he was in my dreams last night. I was editing his autobiography, and he kept making changes right under my nose. A real pain in the ass.

Cheers, Daniel. May you be asking God embarrassing questions in Heaven ten days before the Devil knows you're dead.

Ojoe Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:55:50am

Down with the elitist morons who tanked the economy.

Ojoe Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:58:37am

re: #94 PT Barnum

Nilla Wafer stock car. It's a white cookie inside.

Targetpractice Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:12:36am

Afternoon, fellow lizards. What's the good word?

Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:16:51am

re: #98 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Afternoon, fellow lizards. What's the good word?

Hot and sticky outside in Philly. I'm delaying a shopping trip plus other errands to sit inside with the A/C on and read. :)

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Targetpractice Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:20:42am

re: #99 oaktree

Hot and sticky outside in Philly. I'm delaying a shopping trip plus other errands to sit inside with the A/C on and read. :)

Good call.

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ProGunLiberal Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:30:35am

re: #99 oaktree

Warm and overcast in Colorado Springs.

Haven't been on since Thursday cause of going to a concert and assorted chaos. I'm still new here, so I do I introduce myself?

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Kronocide Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:31:30am

Aloha from the Big Island. Cold and dreary low 70's....

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allegro Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:33:19am

Last night I was flipping the dial and came across Al Franken's keynote speech to the Netroots convention on, surprisingly, Fox news. He talked about a number of things with an emphasis on the importance of net neutrality and the dangers of having a very few huge corporations in ownership of media as has been happening and continues to pose a legitimate threat. I thought it was a good speech overall.

So after the speech, they go to a panel, including Ann Coulter (the only one I recognized), to discuss the speech. It was the most juvenile display I think I've ever witnessed. I realize it was Fox, but I was stunned at the nonsense. There was no legitimate discussion of the content of the speech, just "it was booooring" with the commentators sounding like so many junior high bullies nyah-nyahing with eyes rolling. I think I made it about 5 minutes before escaping the channel for more adult fare.

And people wonder what has happened to civility and intelligent discussion?

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allegro Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:33:59am

re: #101 ProLifeLiberal

You just did. Hiya!

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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:39:46am

re: #101 ProLifeLiberal

Warm and overcast in Colorado Springs.

Haven't been on since Thursday cause of going to a concert and assorted chaos. I'm still new here, so I do I introduce myself?

Welcome.

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Kronocide Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:41:59am

re: #103 allegro

And people wonder what has happened to civility and intelligent discussion?

Media is a business. Ann Coulter has some serious thoughts/instelligence or commentary but it get's lost in her schtick, which is encouraged by her fan base. She happens to be wrong on stuff and might have some other issues. Either way, getting too adult may cost her some ratings points.

Franken, ironically, came from entertainment and went to politics, he's trying to be more serious, somewhat the opposite from Coulter. He has some issues too and I don't know if I agree with him on net neutrality, but I would have liked to see that speech.

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bratwurst Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:45:34am

re: #103 allegro

Last night I was flipping the dial and came across Al Franken's keynote speech to the Netroots convention on, surprisingly, Fox news. He talked about a number of things with an emphasis on the importance of net neutrality and the dangers of having a very few huge corporations in ownership of media as has been happening and continues to pose a legitimate threat. I thought it was a good speech overall.

So after the speech, they go to a panel, including Ann Coulter (the only one I recognized), to discuss the speech. It was the most juvenile display I think I've ever witnessed. I realize it was Fox, but I was stunned at the nonsense. There was no legitimate discussion of the content of the speech, just "it was boooring" with the commentators sounding like so many junior high bullies nyah-nyahing with eyes rolling. I think I made it about 5 minutes before escaping the channel for more adult fare.

And people wonder what has happened to civility and intelligent discussion?

I was watching as well. Coulter's reaction was 100% about the speaker and 0% about the speech (which was thoughtful and well tailored to his audience).

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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:46:36am

Hazy, hot and humid in Philly. Good afternoon fellow lizards.

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allegro Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:46:39am

re: #106 BigPapa

If I am watching a supposed news program, I do expect to see adult behavior. Coulter was only one of, I think, 4 members of the "panel" in addition to the program host. I expected to see disagreement with some or even all of Franken's points, of course, and was interested to hear an alternative viewpoint. There was none. It was all strawmen and juvenile eye-rolling without a single point legitimately discussed. Revolting.

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Achilles Tang Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:50:15am

re: #106 BigPapa

Media is a business. Ann Coulter has some serious thoughts/instelligence or commentary but it get's lost in her schtick, which is encouraged by her fan base.

Par for the course. She also just happens to be a creationist, so avoiding what is undesired comes naturally.

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Kronocide Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:53:56am

re: #109 allegro

I do recall resisting the braying of 'Faux News' years ago, it wasn't as bad as potrayed in Blue Circles because I actually watched some of the programs that were news centric/less on schtick. Used to like Hannity/Colmes.

In the last two years Fox News has really lived up to the negative associations. Your experience validates that. Shameful.

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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:54:57am

re: #109 allegro

If I am watching a supposed news program, I do expect to see adult behavior. Coulter was only one of, I think, 4 members of the "panel" in addition to the program host. I expected to see disagreement with some or even all of Franken's points, of course, and was interested to hear an alternative viewpoint. There was none. It was all strawmen and juvenile eye-rolling without a single point legitimately discussed. Revolting.

It's obvious that Franken, as a former comedian, is beneath their consideration as a serious commentator on the current social and political issues of the day. And he's also proof that the state of Minnesota is unable to handle fixed elections when the Democrats rig things to get clowns such as Franken into office and stop the courts from properly blocking the chicanery that took place.

Therefore, he deserves nothing but their intellectual contempt.

/ ;)

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Kronocide Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:58:25am

re: #110 Naso Tang

Par for the course. She also just happens to be a creationist, so avoiding what is undesired comes naturally.

The subject of creationism has really rocked my political world in the last two years. Many of my respected heros have fallen, creationism being probably most prevalent issue causing my internal shift and distance from conservatism.

I think it's been a big few years for all of us!

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The Left Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:58:44am

re: #109 allegro

If I am watching a supposed news program, I do expect to see adult behavior. Coulter was only one of, I think, 4 members of the "panel" in addition to the program host. I expected to see disagreement with some or even all of Franken's points, of course, and was interested to hear an alternative viewpoint. There was none. It was all strawmen and juvenile eye-rolling without a single point legitimately discussed. Revolting.

But that's Coulter. The real question would be why anyone has ever pretended she's someone to take seriously.

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ReamWorks SKG Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:00:36am

What do y'all think of Mo' Dowd in today's Times saying the Obama White house is too white?

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

I thought this paragraph was odd. While I think Obama, for example, mishandled Rev. Jeremiah Wright--he should have defended him against out-of-context soundbites being used to attack him--why on earth does Dowd include "gays."

It is very clear that Barack Obama doesn't like gays.

The president appears completely comfortable in his own skin, but it seems he feels that he and Michelle are such a huge change for the nation to absorb that he can be overly cautious about pushing for other societal changes for blacks and gays. At some level, he acts like the election was enough; he shouldn’t have to deal with race further. But he does.

His closest advisers — some of the same ones who urged him not to make the race speech after the Rev. Jeremiah Wright issue exploded — are so terrified that Fox and the Tea Party will paint Obama as doing more for blacks that they tiptoe around and do less. “Who knew that the first black president would make it even harder on black people?” asked a top black Democratic official.

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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:00:49am

re: #97 Ojoe

Nilla Wafer stock car. It's a white cookie inside.

Actually it's more likely to be a white cracker...:)

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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:01:28am

re: #96 Ojoe

Down with the elitist morons who tanked the economy.

Who tanked the economy? It was fine last time the administration mentioned it.

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Kronocide Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:01:56am

re: #114 iceweasel

But that's Coulter. The real question would be why anyone has ever pretended she's someone to take seriously.

I didn't pretend, I did take here seriously.... years ago. Until I listened, she called somebody a fag, let out her creationism....

OK, maybe I was enamored with her looks too. Give a guy a break fer fooks sayk!

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ProGunLiberal Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:03:10am

re: #104 allegro

I thought I had to do more to introduce myself. Thank You.

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The Left Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:03:37am

re: #115 reuven

What do y'all think of Mo' Dowd in today's Times saying the Obama White house is too white?

MoDo is a fake liberal whose schtick is trade is playing Concern Troll. She's been doing it since the Clinton admin.

It is very clear that Barack Obama doesn't like gays.

Is this snark, or something you believe? If the latter, substantiate please.

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Varek Raith Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:04:42am

Hi everybody!

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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:05:04am

re: #119 ProLifeLiberal

I thought I had to do more to introduce myself. Thank You.

Feel free to tell us a little about yourself, but not required. What brought you to this little node of the 'net?

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Stonemason Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:05:50am

re: #116 PT Barnum

nice

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Ojoe Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:07:15am

re: #117 Walter L. Newton

Who tanked the economy? It was fine last time the administration mentioned it.

My bad, the economy is just fine.

/Democratic Party mode off

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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:07:23am

re: #123 Stonemason

nice

My mom lives in Missouri...you see it a lot more than you'd expect down there.

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The Left Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:07:40am

re: #118 BigPapa

I didn't pretend, I did take here seriously... years ago. Until I listened, she called somebody a fag, let out her creationism...

OK, maybe I was enamored with her looks too. Give a guy a break fer fooks sayk!

Oh I know-- personally it's also seemed to me that Coulter once put more effort into her act. There's no doubt that she's smart-- she's also apparently realised that she could make the biggest bucks being inflammatory and 'funny'.

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Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:08:32am

re: #115 reuven

Yeah, the whole article is a mess. She still repeats the rumour that the White House demanded her firing although the White House and USDA both said it isn't true. The USDA official that told Sharrod that the White House gave the order (I forget her name) hasn't been heard from since and has probably been fired.

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simoom Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:08:44am

I was skimming through some of the YouTube ComicCon Tron: Legacy videos and came across one I thought was cool. This looks like some sort of Tron: Legacy bar with the walls playing video from the movie, the Daft Punk soundtrack blaring and the room's lighting cycling through the appropriate ambient colors:

Youtube Video

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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:08:46am

re: #126 iceweasel

Oh I know-- personally it's also seemed to me that Coulter once put more effort into her act. There's no doubt that she's smart-- she's also apparently realised that she could make the biggest bucks being inflammatory and 'funny'.

I have a hard time thinking anyone finds Coulter attractive. Me thinks it would be like having marital relations with a broom.

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allegro Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:08:57am

re: #126 iceweasel

she's also apparently realised that she could make the biggest bucks being inflammatory and 'funny'.

From what I saw last night, she fails at both spectacularly.

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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:09:00am

re: #126 iceweasel

Oh I know-- personally it's also seemed to me that Coulter once put more effort into her act. There's no doubt that she's smart-- she's also apparently realised that she could make the biggest bucks being inflammatory and 'funny'.

Didn't that used to be a schtick for stand-up comedians for the most part and not news commentators and pundits?

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The Left Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:10:00am

re: #131 oaktree

Didn't that used to be a schtick for stand-up comedians for the most part and not news commentators and pundits?

Yep. Now we have 'rodeo clowns' as pundits though.

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Varek Raith Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:10:52am

re: #132 iceweasel

Yep. Now we have 'rodeo clowns' as pundits though.

Why must you insult rodeo clowns?
;)

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tnguitarist Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:11:17am

Afternoon, all.

Why are these guys such such crybabies? They all want to take their toys and go home.

Another Republican secessionist.

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Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:11:18am

Breakfast is going to be a frittata with potatoes, bacon, kale and cheese. I love Sunday breakfast but I'm procrastinating because I have to do dishes before I start cooking.

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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:11:26am

re: #133 Varek Raith

Why must you insult rodeo clowns?
;)

should we substitute failed Jedi knights?

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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:11:35am

re: #133 Varek Raith

Why must you insult rodeo clowns?
;)

These guys aren't real rodeo clowns though, they embrase the bull instead of hiding from it.

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Varek Raith Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:11:53am

re: #136 oaktree

should we substitute ~~failed~~ Jedi knights?

Yes.

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The Left Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:13:23am

re: #133 Varek Raith

Why must you insult rodeo clowns?
;)

I don't know. :(

To me, clowns aren't funny...they're kind of scary, and sad.

I think it all goes back to this one time I was at the circus...and a clown killed my dad.

/jack handy

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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:13:31am

re: #134 tnguitarist

Afternoon, all.

Why are these guys such such crybabies? They all want to take their toys and go home.

Another Republican secessionist.

They are doing it for effect... that's all.

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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:14:12am

re: #140 Walter L. Newton

They are doing it for effect... that's all.

They've been doing this (whining) since the 2006 elections.

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Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:15:50am

Get ready for more campaign ads like this. I think they could work pretty well for the dems in many states.

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ProGunLiberal Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:16:05am

re: #122 oaktree

I came across this site from another blog a year or two ago, and have been readding it since. A few days ago I made an account to post on here. I'm an Autistic, so I tend to be very careful about what to say.

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tnguitarist Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:16:06am

re: #140 Walter L. Newton

They are doing it for effect... that's all.

Imagine if Democrats were doing it. They would be called traitors.

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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:16:33am

re: #141 PT Barnum

They've been doing this (whining) since the 2006 elections.

I know, and it's stupid, but it appeals to a certain base, who are also not too bright, at least politically.

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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:17:04am

re: #134 tnguitarist

Afternoon, all.

Why are these guys such such crybabies? They all want to take their toys and go home.

Another Republican secessionist.

It's a side variation of the anti-"big government" screed. If you're not being successful in shrinking it then the next step is agitate to walk away from it entirely.

I got my inoculation against that whole secession business back in the old days when I read Usenet civil war groups.

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tnguitarist Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:17:09am

re: #143 ProLifeLiberal

Welcome!

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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:17:17am

re: #144 tnguitarist

Imagine if Democrats were doing it. They would be called traitors.

I'm not supporting that kind of talk, from either side.

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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:17:50am

re: #145 Walter L. Newton

I know, and it's stupid, but it appeals to a certain base, who are also not too bright, at least politically.

These are the same people who whine that there is an anti christian bias simply because other faiths are being recognized and accomodated in society as a whole.

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Mocking Jay Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:18:09am

re: #143 ProLifeLiberal

I came across this site from another blog a year or two ago, and have been readding it since. A few days ago I made an account to post on here. I'm an Autistic, so I tend to be very careful about what to say.

ProLifeLiberal? I didn't know we came with that option...

(I kid, I kid!)

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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:18:47am

re: #149 PT Barnum

These are the same people who whine that there is an anti christian bias simply because other faiths are being recognized and accomodated in society as a whole.

Right, and your point is?

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tnguitarist Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:19:06am

re: #146 oaktree

It's a side variation of the anti-"big government" screed. If you're not being successful in shrinking it then the next step is agitate to walk away from it entirely.

I got my inoculation against that whole secession business back in the old days when I read Usenet civil war groups.

Fringe groups saying it is one thing, but Congressmen threatening to secession is an entirely different matter.

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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:19:06am

re: #150 JasonA

ProLifeLiberal? I didn't know we came with that option...

(I kid, I kid!)

I'm pro life...I think most conservatives need to get one.

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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:20:12am

re: #151 Walter L. Newton

Right, and your point is?

The victim mentality is strong with those who aren't allowed to boss the rest of us around in one form or another.

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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:20:50am

re: #154 PT Barnum

The victim mentality is strong with those who aren't allowed to boss the rest of us around in one form or another.

Ok.

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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:21:12am

re: #154 PT Barnum

The victim mentality is strong with those who aren't allowed to boss the rest of us around in one form or another.

and feel strongly that they should...

This is the whole authoritarian mindset that seems to run through a great deal of the GOP these days.

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tnguitarist Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:22:08am

re: #154 PT Barnum

The victim mentality is strong with those who aren't allowed to boss the rest of us around in one form or another.

It's funny. I can remember when they used to always accuse liberals of playing the victim.

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Mocking Jay Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:22:21am

re: #156 PT Barnum

and feel strongly that they should...

This is the whole authoritarian mindset that seems to run through a great deal of the GOP these days.

Even after reminding us Liberals over and over again how elections have consequences...

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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:23:05am

re: #155 Walter L. Newton

Ok.

OT, but I finished my first radio script...shot it off to the guy who did a seminar on radio theatre at our state community theatre convention for hopefully some constructive feedback. The nice thing about radio scripts is that they don't have to be that long, which helps when you're trying to get yourself worked up to longer pieces.

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Varek Raith Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:23:25am

re: #158 JasonA

Even after reminding us Liberals over and over again how elections have consequences...

Hahahaha, the rubberband in on the other claw now!

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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:23:30am

A little link for those cooking today so they can identify the proper elements to place on the grill. ;)

Image: periodic-table-of-meat.png

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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:24:04am

re: #158 JasonA

Even after reminding us Liberals over and over again how elections have consequences...

The GOP has taken Emerson's dictum about foolish consistency and turned it on its head.

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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:24:38am

re: #159 PT Barnum

OT, but I finished my first radio script...shot it off to the guy who did a seminar on radio theatre at our state community theatre convention for hopefully some constructive feedback. The nice thing about radio scripts is that they don't have to be that long, which helps when you're trying to get yourself worked up to longer pieces.

Good for you. Let me know if/what feedback you get.

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Varek Raith Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:25:26am

Police: Man stabbed with pen at Comic-Con

(CNN) -- A Comic-Con attendee stabbed another near the eye with a pen Saturday after they got into an argument over whether one was sitting too close to the other, police said.
The injured man, in his 20s, was taken to a hospital with a minor cut, said San Diego Police Officer David Stafford. The attacker, also in his 20s, was arrested and booked for assault with a deadly weapon, he said.

The incident took place in the San Diego Convention Center while fans were waiting for a panel featuring actor Seth Rogen discussing the science-fiction comedy "Paul."

"The room was very crowded and the males argued over one male sitting too close to the other," Stafford said.

The suspect was later seen being led away in handcuffs. He had on a blue "Harry Potter" T-shirt.

The panel was delayed for about 30 minutes while attendees were shown a series of movie trailers.

"Well, there is a crowd issue. It's gotten really crowded. And if anything, an incident like this points to the need for more space," convention-goer Zennie Abraham told iReport -- the CNN website that allows people to submit pictures and videos.

"Should Comic-Con be in San Diego? I think so, but San Diego's got to make more space for it. It's become too big and I didn't think anything like this could happen because it's a chill event but it did happen."

Comic-Con, the annual gathering of self-proclaimed fanboys and fangirls, began Thursday and concludes Sunday. Aside from the stabbing, the convention has proceeded without incident so far, Stafford said.

*shakes head*

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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:25:30am

OK, now it's getting weird. I don't know which LA party posted this ad for parish (county) coroner:

Youtube Video

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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:25:40am

re: #161 oaktree
LOL. I will stand by my opinion that Beef Tenderloin is a very noble meat.

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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:26:34am

re: #161 oaktree

A little link for those cooking today so they can identify the proper elements to place on the grill. ;)

Image: periodic-table-of-meat.png

I gotta say, I would have ranked brisket higher up. I had some brisket at our local bbq place the other day that was just insanely good.

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Mocking Jay Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:27:01am

re: #165 Decatur Deb

OK, now it's getting weird. I don't know which LA party posted this ad for parish (county) coroner:

[Video]

Not quite up to the hilarity of Demon Sheep.

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Achilles Tang Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:28:02am

re: #126 iceweasel

Oh I know-- personally it's also seemed to me that Coulter once put more effort into her act. There's no doubt that she's smart-- she's also apparently realised that she could make the biggest bucks being inflammatory and 'funny'.

next you are going to say Glenn Beck is smart, I suppose//

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tradewind Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:28:08am

Here we go.......
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Some of the most common operations — including hip replacements and cataract surgery — will be rationed as part of attempts to save billions of pounds, despite government promises that front-line services would be protected.
Patients’ groups have described the measures as “astonishingly brutal”.

Yeah, but still no death panels, so it'll be cool./

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webevintage Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:28:23am

re: #164 Varek Raith

Police: Man stabbed with pen at Comic-Con

*shakes head*

A. Potter fan....that's all I need to know
B. I wonder which the injured guy was more upset about; getting stabbed or missing Seth Rogan and the Marvel Panel that was next?

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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:29:27am

re: #163 Walter L. Newton

Good for you. Let me know if/what feedback you get.

I will..

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Varek Raith Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:30:02am

re: #170 tradewind

Here we go...
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Yeah, but still no death panels, so it'll be cool./

Elections have consequences.
Deal with it.

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tradewind Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:30:23am

re: #164 Varek Raith
A con at the Con. How quaint.
:)
That comic book convention has certainly grown. I heard the tickets to get into the panels for Glee and Dexter were sold out in minutes.

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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:31:04am

re: #171 webevintage

A. Potter fan...that's all I need to know
B. I wonder which the injured guy was more upset about; getting stabbed or missing Seth Rogan and the Marvel Panel that was next?

I suspect that some of the people at Comicon share traits with some of the stranger people I played D&D with back in the day. These were the ones that were having difficulty separating the game from reality.

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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:31:12am

re: #169 Naso Tang

next you are going to say Glenn Beck is smart, I suppose//

Yeah, but they're not competing in the same conference--this is SEC.

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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:31:20am

re: #170 tradewind

Here we go...
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Yeah, but still no death panels, so it'll be cool./

Explain to me why this is important? They have nationalized health care, this is nothing like what we will be having here.

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Varek Raith Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:31:57am

re: #174 tradewind

A con at the Con. How quaint.
:)
That comic book convention has certainly grown. I heard the tickets to get into the panels for Glee and Dexter were sold out in minutes.

Yeah, Comic Con is too...
mainstream.

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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:32:20am

re: #176 Decatur Deb

That should be to Jason's 168.

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prairiefire Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:32:41am

re: #178 Varek Raith

I'm going to go some day. I think it would be a great time.

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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:32:44am

re: #177 Walter L. Newton

Explain to me why this is important? They have nationalized health care, this is nothing like what we will be having here.

But if we get anything resembling rational healthcare policy, rationing can't be far behind! That's why they call it rational, right?

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Varek Raith Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:33:14am

BBL.

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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:33:43am

re: #178 Varek Raith

Yeah, Comic Con is too...
mainstream.

Went to GenCon a couple of times back in the 70s..that was a hoot, but that was before the Magic the Gathering thing started and gaming was still just an enjoyable niche hobby.

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Mocking Jay Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:34:52am

re: #178 Varek Raith

Yeah, Comic Con is too...
mainstream.

I don't know about SDCC, but I know at NYCC you can get in on Friday before the masses if you're in the industry. It's sooo much better.

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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:36:55am

re: #184 JasonA

I don't know about SDCC, but I know at NYCC you can get in on Friday before the masses if you're in the industry. It's sooo much better.

I think that's almost standard in a lot of places. I go to a chile pepper/spicy food show in Fort Worth and they have a half-day for industry-only access on the Friday before the two days of public access to the show.

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Mocking Jay Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:38:22am

re: #185 oaktree

I think that's almost standard in a lot of places. I go to a chile pepper/spicy food show in Fort Worth and they have a half-day for industry-only access on the Friday before the two days of public access to the show.

I remember when E3 was industry-only for the whole show. It still technically is, but it seems as if they let everyone and their mother get a damn pass.

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tradewind Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:38:33am

re: #173 Varek Raith
I'm not the one dealing with it, fortunately. Tell that to the poor suckers who need hip replacements and cataract surgeries in the UK now. The scary thing is that there are people in this country who think that model's nirvana.
And you're right, elections do have consequences, especially elections that put control into one party's hands. Despite its curiously short attention span, the electorate usually manages to rouse and self-correct in mid-course after each of these experiments.

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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:39:38am

re: #187 tradewind

I'm not the one dealing with it, fortunately. Tell that to the poor suckers who need hip replacements and cataract surgeries in the UK now. The scary thing is that there are people in this country who think that model's nirvana.
And you're right, elections do have consequences, especially elections that put control into one party's hands. Despite its curiously short attention span, the electorate usually manages to rouse and self-correct in mid-course after each of these experiments.

I'm not sure that the GOP deserves to be in any position of power until they can learn to act like grown ups.

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Mocking Jay Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:39:51am

re: #187 tradewind

Iceweasel! Cancel your plans immediately!!11!!1 You're moving into great danger!

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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:41:30am

re: #189 JasonA

Iceweasel! Cancel your plans immediately!!11!!1 You're moving into great danger!

It's a Trap!

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Stonemason Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:43:43am

re: #188 PT Barnum

I'm not sure that the GOP deserves to be in any position of power until they can learn to act like grown ups.

This from the person who finds it funny to use a racial slur.

Like I said earlier...nice.

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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:44:58am

I suspect ABC broke protocol in this article... they used the words Islamic miliatant group.

"Zachary Chesser, 20, is accused of trying to join Al-Shabaab, a Somali-based Islamist militant group suspected in the recent bombing attacks in Uganda that left 73 dead and dozens more injured as they watched the World Cup final."

American-Bred Terrorists Causing Alarm For Law Enforcement

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:46:52am

re: #192 Walter L. Newton

I suspect ABC broke protocol in this article... they used the words Islamic miliatant group.

"Zachary Chesser, 20, is accused of trying to join Al-Shabaab, a Somali-based Islamist militant group suspected in the recent bombing attacks in Uganda that left 73 dead and dozens more injured as they watched the World Cup final."

American-Bred Terrorists Causing Alarm For Law Enforcement

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

No they didn't, because I spelt it wrong.

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tradewind Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:48:03am

re: #177 Walter L. Newton
Harry says hold on, it's comin'........
He wants the public option, and they're gonna get one.
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

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tradewind Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:49:22am

re: #192 Walter L. Newton
Militant [sic] could also mean nothing more than ' very alert ', so no pejorative there.//

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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:49:40am

re: #194 tradewind

It was always our plan, tovarich.

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Targetpractice Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:49:43am

Well, looks like BP's board of directors couldn't handle the amount of bad publicity he was bringing the company, so Hayward is gettin' shown the door:

Yahoo: BP CEO Tony Hayward nears exit as spill work resumes

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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:51:11am

re: #197 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Well, looks like BP's board of directors couldn't handle the amount of bad publicity he was bringing the company, so Hayward is gettin' shown the door:

Yahoo: BP CEO Tony Hayward nears exit as spill work resumes

Unemployment is rough, but he can always find work cleaning beaches.

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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:51:32am

From The Wall Street Journal:[Link: online.wsj.com...]

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allegro Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:51:36am

re: #187 tradewind

Tell that to the poor suckers who need hip replacements and cataract surgeries in the UK now. The scary thing is that there are people in this country who think that model's nirvana.

I happen to know someone here, a neighbor, who has serious health issues. Lost his job, no health insurance, too young for Medicare, no Medicaid in the state of Texas unless one is pregnant or officially disabled regardless of lack of income. No help, no access to medical care. Yeah, I think he would find access to health care pretty much nirvana, even if he had to wait a bit for it.

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Targetpractice Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:51:58am

re: #194 tradewind

Harry says hold on, it's comin'...
He wants the public option, and they're gonna get one.
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

It's already been reintroduced in the House:

LA Times: Proposed deficit remedy: the healthcare 'public option'

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tradewind Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:52:12am

re: #197 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I can't imagine why he'd want to leave that dream job.
Whoever actually made the decision to silence those alarms on the rig...... and I doubt it was Hayward.... surely hope he or they sleep well at night.
Not.

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Mocking Jay Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:52:48am

re: #198 Decatur Deb

Unemployment is rough, but he can always find work cleaning beaches.

He can't. They're hiring convicts for that. (seriously)

Hmmm...

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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:54:03am

re: #203 JasonA

He can't. They're hiring convicts for that. (seriously)

Hmmm...

Rat's, he'd never meet the morals clause.

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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:54:26am

Just got done arguing with a bunch of morons about opening up tourism and trade with Cuba, which would mean thousands of jobs for Florida. Think about it; cruise ships, car ferries, railroad traffic to the port of Miami, tourists flying in from the rest of America and all of Europe (instead of going to Mexico), Freighters using our ports, the list goes on...

The only argument they can give me is that we "would be supporting a communist government." For 55 years now they have been saying that, has the government fallen? No. Because our embargo hurts the people much more than it hurts the government, it tells the ordinary citizens that they are our enemy.

Besides which if you so strongly believe in "not supporting a communist government" then you need to be boycotting China too to be consistent with your beliefs don't you?

Bahh...Florida needs the damn jobs, open up Cuba!

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tradewind Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:54:30am

re: #200 allegro
In my city we have a Church Health Center ( non- denominational), staffed by volunteer medical personnel who donate their time, and financed by private charitable donations to cover just that sort of thing.... a sort of co-op. Hospitals donate their ORs, etc.
If he is near a large city, check to see if there is a similar program.

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Targetpractice Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:54:30am

re: #202 tradewind

I can't imagine why he'd want to leave that dream job.
Whoever actually made the decision to silence those alarms on the rig... and I doubt it was Hayward... surely hope he or they sleep well at night.
Not.

He's getting blasted by bad press from every angle, pretty much all of it of his own doing, and the shareholders are no doubt raising a fit that he's not chosen to step down voluntarily. No doubt that he's been offered a very generous gold parachute in exchange for falling on his own sword for all to see.

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SixDegrees Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:56:11am

re: #197 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Well, looks like BP's board of directors couldn't handle the amount of bad publicity he was bringing the company, so Hayward is gettin' shown the door:

Yahoo: BP CEO Tony Hayward nears exit as spill work resumes

Hard to tell just yet what's happening. Some reports have Hayward resigning, others are claiming the board is ousting him.

If I were Hayward, I'd pull the rip-cord on my golden parachute and yell "Geronimo!" His stock options will be worth a lot more thanks to his own departure, and it's not like he ever has to work again, strictly from an economic standpoint. Might as well go for early retirement, and maybe take a consulting position or a few board seats in a few years once the heat's off.

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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:56:36am

re: #205 ausador

Just got done arguing with a bunch of morons about opening up tourism and trade with Cuba, which would mean thousands of jobs for Florida. Think about it; cruise ships, car ferries, railroad traffic to the port of Miami, tourists flying in from the rest of America and all of Europe (instead of going to Mexico), Freighters using our ports, the list goes on...

The only argument they can give me is that we "would be supporting a communist government." For 55 years now they have been saying that, has the government fallen? No. Because our embargo hurts the people much more than it hurts the government, it tells the ordinary citizens that they are our enemy.

Besides which if you so strongly believe in "not supporting a communist government" then you need to be boycotting China too to be consistent with your beliefs don't you?

Bahh...Florida needs the damn jobs, open up Cuba!

Charlie does surf, when he's not making cotton shirts for Walmart.

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tradewind Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:56:37am

re: #198 Decatur Deb
If it's a gig like the one at the beach my folks' place is on, tell him to grab it. There's nothing to clean up, but they're still out there. Sitting. Under their umbrellas. With their official Tees.
I'm sure there are many people hard at work cleaning up beaches that need it, but the program isn't managed very well..... there are people literally getting paid to do nothing.

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webevintage Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:57:06am

re: #178 Varek Raith

Yeah, Comic Con is too...
mainstream.

Glee?
WTH?

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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:58:01am

re: #191 Stonemason

This from the person who finds it funny to use a racial slur.

Like I said earlier...nice.

Bite me!

Frankly it's less of a racial slur than a socio-economic slur.

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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:58:12am

re: #210 tradewind

I remember your trip--how far west were you? Shell Island nr PCB was clean this weekend.

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Cato the Elder Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:58:37am

re: #206 tradewind

In my city we have a Church Health Center ( non- denominational), staffed by volunteer medical personnel who donate their time, and financed by private charitable donations to cover just that sort of thing... a sort of co-op. Hospitals donate their ORs, etc.
If he is near a large city, check to see if there is a similar program.

If not, he deserves to be shit out of luck. Right?

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SixDegrees Sun, Jul 25, 2010 11:02:56am

re: #205 ausador

Just got done arguing with a bunch of morons about opening up tourism and trade with Cuba, which would mean thousands of jobs for Florida. Think about it; cruise ships, car ferries, railroad traffic to the port of Miami, tourists flying in from the rest of America and all of Europe (instead of going to Mexico), Freighters using our ports, the list goes on...

The only argument they can give me is that we "would be supporting a communist government." For 55 years now they have been saying that, has the government fallen? No. Because our embargo hurts the people much more than it hurts the government, it tells the ordinary citizens that they are our enemy.

Besides which if you so strongly believe in "not supporting a communist government" then you need to be boycotting China too to be consistent with your beliefs don't you?

Bahh...Florida needs the damn jobs, open up Cuba!

I fully agree with this sentiment. The Evil Communist argument doesn't really hold water - capitalism leads by example, as our old enemies the Russians and the Chinese have amply demonstrated. Nothing would flush the Castro regime out of power faster than a booming economy and demand for imported goods.

Personally, I'd love to see those beachfront casinos and resorts restored to their former architectural glory. Even better - there's a whole population of Cubans living in the states who are more than willing to make it happen, given the chance.

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tradewind Sun, Jul 25, 2010 11:05:53am

re: #213 Decatur Deb
Hey Deb,
Just east of Destin area in S Walton. The water was gorgeous, beaches pristine, not even a teensy tar ball.
Helluva current, though, so even more surprising.

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ProGunLiberal Sun, Jul 25, 2010 11:06:43am

re: #193 Walter L. Newton

Reading the story, it seems most of our home-grown threat comes from people reading stuff on the internet with questionable knowledge of Islam. Actually, this seems to be an issue with these dolts today. I knoow that the following is from Wikipedia, but it is sourced to The Atlantic. When I go back to OU in August, I'll check to see if the particular issue is in library somewhere. This particular example, is about Abu Sayyaf in the Philippines, but you hear similar about many of these groups. Many in the Taliban for instance received "education" of a seriously warped version of Islam from barely literate teachers in some Madrassas in Pakistan during the Soviet-Afghan War.

Mark Bowden in an Atlantic story on the Martin and Gracia Burnham kidnapping and captivity describe the couple as "gently engaged their captors in theological discussion" and finding these jihadists to be shallow, even adolescent, in their faith. Unfamiliar with the Qur'an, the outlaws had only a sketchy notion of Islam, which they saw as a set of behavioral rules, to be violated when it suited them. Kidnapping, murder and theft were justified by their special status as holy warriors. One by one they sexually appropriated several of the women captives, claiming them as `wives`.[70]

70- "Manhunt" by Mark Bowden The Atlantic, March 2007, p.60

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tradewind Sun, Jul 25, 2010 11:06:57am

re: #214 Cato the Elder
Have another cup of coffee, Cato, or whatever floats your boat.

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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 11:07:07am

re: #216 tradewind

The wind gods have been really good to FL.

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webevintage Sun, Jul 25, 2010 11:07:31am

re: #205 ausador

The only argument they can give me is that we "would be supporting a communist government." For 55 years now they have been saying that, has the government fallen?

Gay Marriage, gays in the military, weed for sick people and not doing business with Cuba. All things that will slowly be acceptable and legal as people my parents age pass on.

But I agree that we need to just get over the Cuba thing and go back to doing business with them.

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tradewind Sun, Jul 25, 2010 11:08:17am

re: #201 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Well, November's a short hundred days or so away.

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Targetpractice Sun, Jul 25, 2010 11:10:43am

re: #221 tradewind

Well, November's a short hundred days or so away.

And there's plenty of time between then and the new Congress for the lame ducks to pass that legislation and others that are waiting for Democrats who got nothing left to lose.

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Stonemason Sun, Jul 25, 2010 11:12:43am

re: #212 PT Barnum

Bite me!

Frankly it's less of a racial slur than a socio-economic slur.

is a usually disparaging term for poor whites[1],

Justify it all you want, you are wrong.

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Achilles Tang Sun, Jul 25, 2010 11:13:04am

re: #187 tradewind

The scary thing is that there are people in this country who think that model's nirvana.

What me worry? I have insurance companies behind my back; or is that on my back?

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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Jul 25, 2010 11:19:06am

re: #223 Stonemason

is a usually disparaging term for poor whites[1],

Justify it all you want, you are wrong.

poor being the primary modifier. If it applied to all whites, then I'd be in agreement with you. I looked at the same Urban Dictionary entry you did, apparently.

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Stonemason Sun, Jul 25, 2010 11:22:34am

re: #225 PT Barnum

poor being the primary modifier. If it applied to all whites, then I'd be in agreement with you. I looked at the same Urban Dictionary entry you did, apparently.

Okay, I went with the polite response...didn't work 'cause it never does when pointing out to someone on the left that terms they use are offensive.

My first response?

Fuck you asshole, I am not rich, I like NASCAR, I take offense at being called a fucking cracker.

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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 11:30:19am

re: #226 Stonemason

Okay, I went with the polite response...didn't work 'cause it never does when pointing out to someone on the left that terms they use are offensive.

My first response?

Fuck you asshole, I am not rich, I like NASCAR, I take offense at being called a fucking cracker.

I'm going academic on you, and understand the usual negative connotation, but "Cracker" is very PC/erudite in some narrow contexts.

[Link: fcit.usf.edu...]

My weekly chant: "It's the context and intent that makes the slur."

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Stonemason Sun, Jul 25, 2010 11:36:39am

re: #227 Decatur Deb

It was used as a derogatory 'joke' about NASCAR, hence my offense, which I tried to point out nicely.

There was a DC politician that used a word for cheap a few years ago, technically correct, but highly offensive.

There has been an ongoing discussion regarding race on this board, and the flippant use of a slur against whites sucks, period.

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Stonemason Sun, Jul 25, 2010 11:38:43am

re: #228 Stonemason