Today’s classic cover from the Lizard Collection is issue #11 of Fantasy Masterpieces, an anthology series in which Marvel reprinted some of their earlier comics. After this issue the title was changed from “Fantasy Masterpieces” to “Marvel Super-Heroes.”
Click to embiggenThe inside back cover is another type of classic, an advertisement for Fords, Chevrolets, and Dodges “below wholesale!!”
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What, me worry? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:24:58pm |
Mail order cars! Just like the internet! Well, kinda, sorta.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:25:33pm |
Why would they advertise cars in a children's magazine? Where's the x-ray glasses?
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ReamWorks SKG Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:25:44pm |
Jesse Jackson is on Fox News right now explaining how "the White House overreacted out of fear and fired Sherrod".
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:27:03pm |
re: #3 reuven
Jesse Jackson is on Fox News right now explaining how "the White House overreacted out of fear and fired Sherrod".
JJ is a social pick pocket...even when he is right
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ReamWorks SKG Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:27:13pm |
[Link: www.politico.com...]
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:33:33pm |
I want a 67 Fairlane...427/425hp for less than wholesale
I'll take it from there
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engineer cat Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:36:36pm |
Fantasy Masterpieces
i thought for a moment this meant that this would be a post about wingnut economic theories
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:38:50pm |
re: #7 engineer dog
Fantasy Masterpieces
i thought for a moment this meant that this would be a post about wingnut economic theories
theories like paying for the newest unemployment bill?....crazy dood
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What, me worry? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:41:04pm |
re: #7 engineer dog
Fantasy Masterpieces
i thought for a moment this meant that this would be a post about wingnut economic theories
Naw, it hasn't trickled down to that.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:42:04pm |
The next outrageous outrage is sweeping the wingnutoshpere...
Shirley Silenced: Sherrod Kept Out of Sunday Talk-shows
She was likened to a modern day Rosa Parks or Nelson Mandela, but former the Ag official, according to the Washington Post, was not interviewed on a single major Sunday morning talk-show following a week that can only be described as a Shirley Sherrod media frenzy.
...
Considering the Shirley Sherrod interview barrage that took place last Thursday, to not see Sherrod on television Sunday morning sends a clear signal the mainstream media no longer feels allowing the public to get to know the real Shirley Sherrod advances their agenda.
Outrageous!
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:43:10pm |
re: #6 albusteve
I want a 67 Fairlane...427/425hp for less than wholesale
I'll take it from there
Saw a 67 falcon with black & yellow plates today (original plates), made me think of you!
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What, me worry? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:43:35pm |
re: #10 Killgore Trout
The next outrageous outrage is sweeping the wingnutoshpere...
Shirley Silenced: Sherrod Kept Out of Sunday Talk-showsOutrageous!
Should she be? Maybe she doesn't want to be. They certainly discussed it all morning and named Breitbart and his sleazy brand of "journalism".
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engineer cat Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:44:18pm |
re: #8 albusteve
theories like paying for the newest unemployment bill?...crazy dood
i wonder how bush paid for the iraq and afghanistan wars? ... oh, wait, he didn't
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:44:56pm |
re: #10 Killgore Trout
The next outrageous outrage is sweeping the wingnutoshpere...
Shirley Silenced: Sherrod Kept Out of Sunday Talk-shows
Outrageous!
she should be tucked away in Port Shirley somewhere in the Bahamas, enjoying her new status...talk show?....bwahahaha!
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:46:09pm |
re: #13 engineer dog
i wonder how bush paid for the iraq and afghanistan wars? ... oh, wait, he didn't
why, you are right!....a dem congress did
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Reginald Perrin Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:50:37pm |
re: #15 albusteve
why, you are right!...a dem congress did
Last time I checked the Dems didn't take control of congress until 2007. Are you saying that the Republicans weren't paying for the war before 2007?
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engineer cat Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:51:05pm |
re: #15 albusteve
why, you are right!...a dem congress did
in 2002 - 2006?
democrats in the republican congresses called for Bush and the republicans to finance the iraq and afghanistan wars, but that would have meant - gasp! - raising taxes or calling for cuts in other programs to the tune of the $80 billion+/yr that they were costing
bush and the republican congresses borrowed it instead
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:53:30pm |
re: #16 Reginald Perrin
Last time I checked the Dems didn't take control of congress until 2007. Are you saying that the Republicans weren't paying for the war before 2007?
I'm saying everybody was in it together...paying for those was bipartisan, and now the worm has turned eh?....BO better hope his new guy produces, as in like a surge of some sort...the kind he denied in Iraq...big mouth BO is in a pinch eh?
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:54:38pm |
re: #17 engineer dog
in 2002 - 2006?
democrats in the republican congresses called for Bush and the republicans to finance the iraq and afghanistan wars, but that would have meant - gasp! - raising taxes or calling for cuts in other programs to the tune of the $80 billion+/yr that they were costing
bush and the republican congresses borrowed it instead
so what?...nobody is clean in these ME wars..quit crying about it
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engineer cat Sun, Jul 25, 2010 4:59:48pm |
The inside back cover is another type of classic, an advertisement for Fords, Chevrolets, and Dodges “below wholesale!”
this is my proposal for balancing the federal budget in 2011!
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:01:29pm |
if albusteve was POTUS he would have pulled out of Astan after the fight at Tora Bora....and he would have designed a Surge in Iraq 18 months sooner than it happened...Bush folded to the peace pussies and lots of good people died in Iraq because of it....albusteve would have killed Sadre when he was cornered...albusteve would have done alot different, but I'm not going to go back and play politics with it
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:02:47pm |
re: #10 Killgore Trout
The next outrageous outrage is sweeping the wingnutoshpere...
Shirley Silenced: Sherrod Kept Out of Sunday Talk-shows
Outrageous!
Another conspiracy theory, groan.
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windsagio Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:04:11pm |
re: #21 albusteve
if albusteve was POTUS he would have pulled out of Astan after the fight at Tora Bora...and he would have designed a Surge in Iraq 18 months sooner than it happened...Bush folded to the peace pussies and lots of good people died in Iraq because of it...albusteve would have killed Sadre when he was cornered...albusteve would have done alot different, but I'm not going to go back and play politics with it
if Windie were pres then, Iraq wouldn't have been invaded in the first place which would have made the situation in Afghanistan about 15x better.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:08:17pm |
re: #23 windsagio
if Windie were pres then, Iraq wouldn't have been invaded in the first place which would have made the situation in Afghanistan about 15x better.
How do you figure?
And I'm not trying to be aggravating here, I really would like to know why you think the Afghanistan situation would have been "better" (and in what way" if we had not gone to Iraq.
I think Afghanistan is, was and will always be a lost cause; just seems to me the folks there are such opportunists, and will go with whoever or whatever fits a particular need, right now, today, rather than looking toward what the future will be like.
I fully admit I could be complete naive and wrong on that; which is why I'm interested in hearing how you think it would have been better and why.
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prairiefire Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:09:40pm |
re: #12 marjoriemoon
Hi Marjorie. I read Jason Linkins Sunday morning blog and thought it probably would not be detailed enough for you. I enjoy reading your perspectives as well. Keep up the fight! (/)
I like to sleep in.
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rwdflynavy Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:11:34pm |
Word Up Lizardkind!
Son, You're gonna drive me to drinkin if you don't stop driving that
Hot. Rod. Lincoln.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:11:51pm |
re: #23 windsagio
if Windie were pres then, Iraq wouldn't have been invaded in the first place which would have made the situation in Afghanistan about 15x better.
I can't agree. The major problem in Afghanistan (its disunity) seems insolvable in the short term. Really solving it would require a multi-generational presence there while the culture is slowly changed.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:13:12pm |
re: #27 Dark_Falcon
I can't agree. The major problem in Afghanistan (its disunity) seems insolvable in the short term. Really solving it would require a multi-generational presence there while the culture is slowly changed.
And even then, DF, I'm not sure it could be changed.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:14:39pm |
re: #24 reine.de.tout
How do you figure?
And I'm not trying to be aggravating here, I really would like to know why you think the Afghanistan situation would have been "better" (and in what way" if we had not gone to Iraq.I think Afghanistan is, was and will always be a lost cause; just seems to me the folks there are such opportunists, and will go with whoever or whatever fits a particular need, right now, today, rather than looking toward what the future will be like.
I fully admit I could be complete naive and wrong on that; which is why I'm interested in hearing how you think it would have been better and why.
Iraq defines a pattern of behavior in the eyes of much of the muslim world. The Taliban were on the ropes before Iraq, they had become incredibly unpopular. The invasion and subsequent insurgency in Iraq became a popular symbol of resistance, and similarly recast the Taliban as resistance fighters. Every gain they've made as come post Iraq, before they were just struggling to survive.
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:18:20pm |
re: #23 windsagio
if Windie were pres then, Iraq wouldn't have been invaded in the first place which would have made the situation in Afghanistan about 15x better.
what situation would have been better?...you mean the same as now when the POTUS wants that fight?, and we are getting our asses handed to us?
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engineer cat Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:20:01pm |
defending ourselves against terrorists and destroying terrorist organizations is one thing,. influencing cultural development in other countries is another thing. in afghanistan, these two projects seem like they might overlap
i'm in favor of the first. i'm not so sure that the second is possible, or, even if desirable, any of our business
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Racer X Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:20:25pm |
re: #30 albusteve
what situation would have been better?...you mean the same as now when the POTUS wants that fight?, and we are getting our asses handed to us?
Dude.
No one is handing US our asses. A hundred scumbags die for every one America soldier. We just don't like losing one at all.
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:21:12pm |
re: #29 goddamnedfrank
Iraq defines a pattern of behavior in the eyes of much of the muslim world. The Taliban were on the ropes before Iraq, they had become incredibly unpopular. The invasion and subsequent insurgency in Iraq became a popular symbol of resistance, and similarly recast the Taliban as resistance fighters. Every gain they've made as come post Iraq, before they were just struggling to survive.
really?...and you can support your assertion that the Talis had become "incredibly unpopular" before Iraq?....are you assuming the situation has no fluidity?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:21:59pm |
re: #29 goddamnedfrank
Iraq defines a pattern of behavior in the eyes of much of the muslim world. The Taliban were on the ropes before Iraq, they had become incredibly unpopular. The invasion and subsequent insurgency in Iraq became a popular symbol of resistance, and similarly recast the Taliban as resistance fighters. Every gain they've made as come post Iraq, before they were just struggling to survive.
However, Al Qaeda horrific behavior in Iraq ultimately provoked the Sunni Awaking against them and shattered any heroic image they had built up. The Taliban are similarly despised by the majority of Afghans. The evil of our enemies is proving their undoing.
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:22:08pm |
re: #27 Dark_Falcon
I can't agree. The major problem in Afghanistan (its disunity) seems insolvable in the short term. Really solving it would require a multi-generational presence there while the culture is slowly changed.
and 200k troops we don't have...BO is gonna find this out too late
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McSpiff Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:22:36pm |
re: #30 albusteve
what situation would have been better?...you mean the same as now when the POTUS wants that fight?, and we are getting our asses handed to us?
Asses handed to us? You have a very different view on this war compared to the boots on the ground, I gotta say.
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Ojoe Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:22:45pm |
I bet those below wholesale cars were radioactive guinea pigs from the Nevada proving grounds, or something similar.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:23:17pm |
re: #29 goddamnedfrank
Iraq defines a pattern of behavior in the eyes of much of the muslim world. The Taliban were on the ropes before Iraq, they had become incredibly unpopular. The invasion and subsequent insurgency in Iraq became a popular symbol of resistance, and similarly recast the Taliban as resistance fighters. Every gain they've made as come post Iraq, before they were just struggling to survive.
So you're tying the resurgence of the Taliban to resistance to our Iraq invasion?
That could very well be.
I still think the Taliban would have enjoyed a resurgence, anyhow. Again, the folks in Afghanistan seem prone to taking what is offered by whoever offers what meets their needs right now, today. I think the Taliban would have eventually regrouped and come back, perhaps not as quickly, but it would have happened sooner or later anyhow.
Complicated, odd, strange place, Afghanistan is.
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:23:49pm |
re: #32 Racer X
Dude.
No one is handing US our asses. A hundred scumbags die for every one America soldier. We just don't like losing one at all.
it's not enough...when 3 guys are blown to bits just outside a secure compound, we are losing
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:24:46pm |
re: #34 Dark_Falcon
However, Al Qaeda horrific behavior in Iraq ultimately provoked the Sunni Awaking against them and shattered any heroic image they had built up. The Taliban are similarly despised by the majority of Afghans. The evil of our enemies is proving their undoing.
we can hope you are correct...I'm not convinced
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McSpiff Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:25:10pm |
re: #39 albusteve
it's not enough...when 3 guys are blown to bits just outside a secure compound, we are losing
Jesus steve, this is beyond the usual defeatist crap you pedal. 3 guys means the war is lost? Get fucking real.
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:25:31pm |
re: #36 McSpiff
Asses handed to us? You have a very different view on this war compared to the boots on the ground, I gotta say.
really?....look at the numbers
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:25:57pm |
re: #41 McSpiff
Jesus steve, this is beyond the usual defeatist crap you pedal. 3 guys means the war is lost? Get fucking real.
The sun never shines during a Democrat administration.
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:26:46pm |
re: #41 McSpiff
Jesus steve, this is beyond the usual defeatist crap you pedal. 3 guys means the war is lost? Get fucking real.
I didn't say the war was lost did I?....you get real
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Racer X Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:27:12pm |
re: #39 albusteve
it's not enough...when 3 guys are blown to bits just outside a secure compound, we are losing
Even tho we probably just sent 20 of the enemy to get some raisins?
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engineer cat Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:28:14pm |
re: #34 Dark_Falcon
However, Al Qaeda horrific behavior in Iraq ultimately provoked the Sunni Awaking against them and shattered any heroic image they had built up. The Taliban are similarly despised by the majority of Afghans. The evil of our enemies is proving their undoing.
indeed
no matter what the balance is in the contest of strength, no matter how sophisticated the weapons or how excellent the strategies of commanders, no matter how many years the righteous or innocent may have to suffer under the yoke, evil intentions will not succeed in the end
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Racer X Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:28:35pm |
re: #44 albusteve
I didn't say the war was lost did I?...you get real
I'm sure glad you didn't - because I will never forgive that piece of shit Harry Reid for making that declaration.
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McSpiff Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:28:43pm |
re: #44 albusteve
I didn't say the war was lost did I?...you get real
Sorry, you only said losing. According to wiki, its about 7.5k KIA. We've been in wars where 7.5k to secure a country would have been beyond the General Staff's wildest dreams.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:28:49pm |
OK, I'll BBL.
Windsagio, if you care to answer, I'll check back.
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:29:08pm |
re: #46 Racer X
Even tho we probably just sent 20 of the enemy to get some raisins?
3 for 20 is not good enough
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Ojoe Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:29:29pm |
re: #47 engineer dog
evil intentions will not succeed in the end
No they never will. Evil always over-reaches and is undone.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:29:33pm |
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What, me worry? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:29:57pm |
re: #25 prairiefire
Hi Marjorie. I read Jason Linkins Sunday morning blog and thought it probably would not be detailed enough for you. I enjoy reading your perspectives as well. Keep up the fight! (/)
I like to sleep in.
Heyas Prairie! Gosh, I forgot to read Linkins today! I've been a bit under the weather last few days. Some unpleasant intestinal thing, but seems to be going away.
And thanks! Honestly, I was only interested in what they had to say about Sherrod. They talked about Obama signing the Financial Reform law, but I didn't pay close attention.
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McSpiff Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:30:03pm |
re: #51 albusteve
3 for 20 is not good enough
What's an acceptable metric for you then? 1 for 100? 1 for 1000?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:30:31pm |
re: #47 engineer dog
indeed
no matter what the balance is in the contest of strength, no matter how sophisticated the weapons or how excellent the strategies of commanders, no matter how many years the righteous or innocent may have to suffer under the yoke, evil intentions will not succeed in the end
Ultimately True. Such deeds will be punished, if not in this life, then in the next.
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:30:31pm |
re: #48 Racer X
I'm sure glad you didn't - because I will never forgive that piece of shit Harry Reid for making that declaration.
oh man...don't get me started
how soon people forget
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Racer X Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:30:46pm |
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:30:57pm |
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rwdflynavy Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:31:05pm |
re: #58 albusteve
oh man...don't get me started
how soon people forget
"the surge in Iraq will never work"
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:31:39pm |
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McSpiff Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:32:42pm |
re: #60 albusteve
yes, around there
Updinged for actually agreeing to some numbers. Too many aren't willing to admit that.
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:32:46pm |
re: #61 rwdflynavy
"the surge in Iraq will never work"
BO on his campaign...
"the Surge has failed...it was a failed policy from the beginning and I voted against it's funding"
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rwdflynavy Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:32:52pm |
re: #53 reine.de.tout
It's that testosterone portion of the day.
Reminds me of a Friends episode where Phoebe accuses Joey of getting all "testosterony".
Chandler responds "Which is the real San Francisco treat!"
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Ojoe Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:32:55pm |
re: #62 Dark_Falcon
In the terrible arithmetic of war, 3 per 20 is very good.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:33:13pm |
re: #29 goddamnedfrank
Iraq defines a pattern of behavior in the eyes of much of the muslim world. The Taliban were on the ropes before Iraq, they had become incredibly unpopular. The invasion and subsequent insurgency in Iraq became a popular symbol of resistance, and similarly recast the Taliban as resistance fighters. Every gain they've made as come post Iraq, before they were just struggling to survive.
Indeed. The one thing we'll never know is what would have happened if one of those two brothers rose to power. I'm glad that's one thing we don't have to think about. I think they were worse than their father. At least, Uday.
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Racer X Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:34:07pm |
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rwdflynavy Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:34:15pm |
re: #66 Ojoe
In the terrible arithmetic of war, 3 per 20 is very good.
Not in a war involving the US. The public won't put up with those kind of numbers.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:35:10pm |
re: #34 Dark_Falcon
However, Al Qaeda horrific behavior in Iraq ultimately provoked the Sunni Awaking against them and shattered any heroic image they had built up. The Taliban are similarly despised by the majority of Afghans. The evil of our enemies is proving their undoing.
The Taliban currently offer poor and rural Afghans their only hope for anything approaching class egalitarianism, how fucking sad is that? Karzai's government is setting new records for government corruption, daily:
Socio-economic disparities run rampant, and corruption, classism and an entrenched feudal system all but ensure that the poor - more than 30 percent of Pakistan's 170 million citizens, according to the World Bank - remain poor and marginalized.
Nine percent of Pakistanis lack access to clean water, according to the UN, and 38 percent of Pakistani children are underweight. Bonded labor continues unhindered in the most densely populated provinces of Punjab and Sindh.
Given the little that Pakistani governments, both civilian and military, have provided by way of land reform, education, health care and equitable justice over the past few decades, it's not entirely surprising that an alternative - any alternative - holds appeal for Pakistan's lower classes and peasantry. The Taliban in Swat have forced wealthy landowners out, and, in an ersatz land reform, passed the abandoned plots to the tenants who manned them.
From popular media coverage, it would seem that Pakistan is caught in a Manichean battle for power between the government and the Taliban. It is this myopic thinking that is at the root of America's problems in Pakistan. If the Taliban is associated with increased socio-economic egalitarianism, however much laced with Islamic fundamentalism, it will continue to be popular amongst poorer Pakistanis.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:35:50pm |
re: #69 rwdflynavy
Not in a war involving the US. The public won't put up with those kind of numbers.
They must learn to. And its not three Americans for every 20 talibs, since many of the dead are Allied personnel or Afghans.
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McSpiff Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:36:10pm |
re: #69 rwdflynavy
Not in a war involving the US. The public won't put up with those kind of numbers.
Only looking at KIAs, its estimated to be about 1 to 30 or 3 to 90 for us. Not the 3 to 20 being thrown around. These assholes don't have millions of fighters either.
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rwdflynavy Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:36:52pm |
re: #67 marjoriemoon
Indeed. The one thing we'll never know is what would have happened if one of those two brothers rose to power. I'm glad that's one thing we don't have to think about. I think they were worse than their father. At least, Uday.
When I was on the GW Battlegroup staff in 2000, our intel officer had a weekly segment he'd do at the Admiral's brief called "Uday Today" during which he went over the guy's atrocities. He was one twisted sick f*ck!
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:37:25pm |
re: #35 albusteve
and 200k troops we don't have...BO is gonna find this out too late
i said that last year - and pretty much everyone shouted me down. the US military is over stretched and without some serious structual adjustments in tour duration big cracks will appear, and soon.
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Ojoe Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:37:46pm |
re: #69 rwdflynavy
Well times are different.
Hopefully we can keep the enemies/moral retards down cheaply enough that public opinion, combined with inarticulate leadership, will not stop us from doing it.
Otherwise of course evil gains momentum and is more costly to stop later.
Which you know & I know but which many people don't bother to know.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:38:02pm |
re: #32 Racer X
Dude.
No one is handing US our asses. A hundred scumbags die for every one America soldier. We just don't like losing one at all.
Deserves quoting.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:39:02pm |
re: #70 goddamnedfrank
From popular media coverage, it would seem that Pakistan is caught in a Manichean battle for power between the government and the Taliban. It is this myopic thinking that is at the root of America's problems in Pakistan. If the Taliban is associated with increased socio-economic egalitarianism, however much laced with Islamic fundamentalism, it will continue to be popular amongst poorer Pakistanis.
Well, land reform is important. When it was implemented in Bolivia in the 60's, it eliminated the rural grievances that fed insurgency, and thus made the nation poor ground for guerrillas. This had fatal consequences for one Ernesto Guevara.
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McSpiff Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:39:03pm |
Hey, you know what's annoying? Ex's. Am I right or what?
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:39:45pm |
I take Astan extremely serious, and I was always very uncomfortable with Bush's policy, and was floored when BO actually used this miserable black hole for a campaign prop...I will probably never forgive that asshole for that cheap bravado to dismiss Bush and pimp himself...now the shoe is on the other foot eh?...and people are dying, our people
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:39:52pm |
re: #41 McSpiff
Jesus steve, this is beyond the usual defeatist crap you pedal. 3 guys means the war is lost? Get fucking real.
The Taliban are not going to be defeated traditionally - the military campaign - as all campaigns in the region over the last three centuries - is unwinnable in terms of eradication.
All the troops can do is hold on and get shot at until the political situation (a'la bribing the chiefs) is settled and the local forces are drilled with their own officer corps. And a viable none-narco economy has to sprout from somewhere.
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windsagio Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:40:41pm |
re: #24 reine.de.tout
How do you figure?
And I'm not trying to be aggravating here, I really would like to know why you think the Afghanistan situation would have been "better" (and in what way" if we had not gone to Iraq.I think Afghanistan is, was and will always be a lost cause; just seems to me the folks there are such opportunists, and will go with whoever or whatever fits a particular need, right now, today, rather than looking toward what the future will be like.
I fully admit I could be complete naive and wrong on that; which is why I'm interested in hearing how you think it would have been better and why.
sorry, I was gone for a while.
My understanding is that the drawdown of the troops in afghanistan and the lack of focus on it (again, "I don't really think about where he is anymore") Had a corrosive effect on both the mission and belief in law and order.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:40:56pm |
re: #78 McSpiff
Hey, you know what's annoying? Ex's. Am I right or what?
The more you have, the worse they are.
Or, so I hear...
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albusteve Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:41:37pm |
re: #71 Dark_Falcon
They must learn to. And its not three Americans for every 20 talibs, since many of the dead are Allied personnel or Afghans.
fuck that...it's a terrible ratio
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:42:19pm |
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Racer X Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:43:04pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:44:56pm |
re: #73 rwdflynavy
When I was on the GW Battlegroup staff in 2000, our intel officer had a weekly segment he'd do at the Admiral's brief called "Uday Today" during which he went over the guy's atrocities. He was one twisted sick f*ck!
Well thankfully the 101st Airborne and Delta Force arranged for him to have an argument with a TOW missile. He did not win that argument.
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butterick Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:45:55pm |
Whoa, what is going on in the upper left corner of that comic?
Namor's head is basically turning into a guitar pick there.
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A Man for all Seasons Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:47:05pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:49:49pm |
re: #80 wozzablog
The Taliban are not going to be defeated traditionally - the military campaign - as all campaigns in the region over the last three centuries - is unwinnable in terms of eradication.
All the troops can do is hold on and get shot at until the political situation (a'la bribing the chiefs) is settled and the local forces are drilled with their own officer corps. And a viable none-narco economy has to sprout from somewhere.
Well, we could allow China to buy the mining right to the mineral deposits there. Arrange for them to make regular payoffs to tribal elders in exchange for the right to impose security their way. Call it a leveraged buyout if Afghanistan. Probably not a good idea, but I'm trying to think outside the box here.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:49:53pm |
If winning a war had anything to do with battle losses, Vietnam would be the 51st state.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:49:57pm |
Has anyone gotten in to the latest Wikileaks thing? Ninety thousand classified documents released, many outdated. Bad day at the Pentagon.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:51:26pm |
re: #92 Dark_Falcon
Well, we could allow China to buy the mining right to the mineral deposits there. Arrange for them to make regular payoffs to tribal elders in exchange for the right to impose security their way. Call it a leveraged buyout if Afghanistan. Probably not a good idea, but I'm trying to think outside the box here.
It's, essentially, whats happening in large chunks of Africa. The Chinese are the devil we know.
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Racer X Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:51:30pm |
I'm still in awe of how wonderful this performance is. I fell in love with Pink that night.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:55:04pm |
re: #96 wozzablog
It's, essentially, whats happening in large chunks of Africa. The Chinese are the devil we know.
That's what I was thinking in terms of: a trade off. China agrees to stay out of the Western Hemisphere, and in return they get whatever riches Afghanistan holds and we promise to ensure that no ruckus is raised if they do nasty things to secure them. The plan would essentially throw the Afghans themselves under the bus. That's why I don't like it, but i wanted to put it out there to get people's reactions.
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Mich-again Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:55:28pm |
re: #92 Dark_Falcon
Well, we could allow China to buy the mining right to the mineral deposits there. Arrange for them to make regular payoffs to tribal elders in exchange for the right to impose security their way. Call it a leveraged buyout if Afghanistan. Probably not a good idea, but I'm trying to think outside the box here.
We would benefit from the mining even if we don't reap the profits directly. An increase in supplies of the products from the new mines will bring lower prices to all customers.
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darthstar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:55:53pm |
Home from Tahoe...and the fuckin' sink is still clogged. Third try at the Drano and then it's call a fuckin' plumber time (or maybe try the garden hose wrapped in a towel trick and blow the fucker clean first). But the wife wants to eat dinner, so I'll need to get this working soon.
So.Need.To.Buy.A.New.House. and get out of this cabin.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:56:03pm |
re: #91 HoosierHoops
Hi you! I'm in Oklahoma..Hope you are well
Do you have cowboy boots, yet?
Enquiring minds want to know!
*smooch*
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McSpiff Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:56:07pm |
re: #97 Racer X
Lady Gaga, but a similar "holy shit" moment for me.
Why can't she do this all the time?
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Nimed Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:56:09pm |
re: #79 albusteve
I take Astan extremely serious, and I was always very uncomfortable with Bush's policy, and was floored when BO actually used this miserable black hole for a campaign prop...I will probably never forgive that asshole for that cheap bravado to dismiss Bush and pimp himself...now the shoe is on the other foot eh?...and people are dying, our people
For the record, I think you have a perfectly reasonable position on this. It's not about the kill ratio, it's about reaching specific goals. If the LER was everything, we would have won Vietnam.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:56:29pm |
re: #95 Rightwingconspirator
You had mail, earlier today...
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McSpiff Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:56:43pm |
re: #99 Dark_Falcon
China would never ever go for it. Way too external, way too visible. They like Africa largely because no one is watching.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:56:58pm |
re: #73 rwdflynavy
When I was on the GW Battlegroup staff in 2000, our intel officer had a weekly segment he'd do at the Admiral's brief called "Uday Today" during which he went over the guy's atrocities. He was one twisted sick f*ck!
I got more interested in M.E. politics outside Israel in the late 1999 and 2000 and the stories of Uday were unparalleled. A true sociopath, wasn't there a story about the Iraqi Olympic soccer team that if they didn't win, he either tortured or killed them?
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:57:16pm |
re: #82 windsagio
sorry, I was gone for a while.
My understanding is that the drawdown of the troops in afghanistan and the lack of focus on it (again, "I don't really think about where he is anymore") Had a corrosive effect on both the mission and belief in law and order.
Thanks.
Yes, I can see that. I've heard that before too, elsewhere.
Troops and lack of attention in Afghanistan; meanwhile, the situation there was so very bad, folks preferred an Iraq mission to one in Afghanistan. Still that way, I believe.
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Racer X Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:57:54pm |
re: #101 darthstar
Home from Tahoe...and the fuckin' sink is still clogged. Third try at the Drano and then it's call a fuckin' plumber time (or maybe try the garden hose wrapped in a towel trick and blow the fucker clean first). But the wife wants to eat dinner, so I'll need to get this working soon.
So.Need.To.Buy.A.New.House. and get out of this cabin.
Don't use Drano - use a buttload of bleach instead. Let it sit overnight - then flush with water. If you use the garden hose trick after adding bleach or chemicals use caution - wear eye protection as stuff may go everywhere.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:58:01pm |
re: #99 Dark_Falcon
That's what I was thinking in terms of: a trade off. China agrees to stay out of the Western Hemisphere, and in return they get whatever riches Afghanistan holds and we promise to ensure that no ruckus is raised if they do nasty things to secure them. The plan would essentially throw the Afghans themselves under the bus. That's why I don't like it, but i wanted to put it out there to get people's reactions.
I don't think they have ever not been under the bus.
If they get infrastructure - regardless of any democracy or not - it'll be trading up.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:58:39pm |
re: #94 Decatur Deb
If winning a war had anything to do with battle losses, Vietnam would be the 51st state.
How many schools, roads, hospitals and improvements to Afghanistan's electrical grid could we have created instead of investing in body bags for use in Iraq?
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Mich-again Sun, Jul 25, 2010 5:58:46pm |
re: #101 darthstar
Did you clean the P trap? Easy enough to do.
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:00:16pm |
re: #106 McSpiff
China would never ever go for it. Way too external, way too visible. They like Africa largely because no one is watching.
When we leave - as long as women can go to school and hold down jobs - i think the world will forget.
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darthstar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:00:18pm |
re: #109 Racer X
Don't use Drano - use a buttload of bleach instead. Let it sit overnight - then flush with water. If you use the garden hose trick after adding bleach or chemicals use caution - wear eye protection as stuff may go everywhere.
Thanks...will try that after manually emptying the sink if this doesn't work. I like measuring harsh chemicals with the "buttload" measurement. One of these days, I expect the NPR show "Says You" to have that as one of their "unit of measure" questions (the answer, of course, being "As much as it freakin' takes!")
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darthstar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:00:53pm |
re: #112 Mich-again
Did you clean the P trap? Easy enough to do.
Ran hot water...P-Trap is warm, so I think it might be beyond that.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:01:19pm |
re: #108 reine.de.tout
Thanks.
Yes, I can see that. I've heard that before too, elsewhere.
Troops and lack of attention in Afghanistan; meanwhile, the situation there was so very bad, folks preferred an Iraq mission to one in Afghanistan. Still that way, I believe.
Everyone I knew then who tried to convince me that liberating those poor oppressed Iraqis was the right thing to do couldn't give a rat's ass about them now.
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darthstar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:02:12pm |
Okay...time to go back and check the sink. I'll check back with you lovely people in a little while. I did have a beautiful weekend, by the way. Hiked up to Five Lakes near Alpine Meadows Ski Area with the dogs...gorgeous this time of year. Will share pics later.
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Nimed Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:02:25pm |
re: #108 reine.de.tout
reine, are you in favor of retreating from Afghanistan? If you aren't, I think you have to agree with wind that going to Iraq hurt our war efforts in Afghanistan.
Pardon me for sticking my nose in your discussion. The war in Afghanistan is an important issue that's been somewhat forgotten and it needs more debate.
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Racer X Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:03:36pm |
re: #103 McSpiff
I kinda like Lady Gaga. Lately she seems to be in her own little world, and I fear it may all come crashing down on her. Fame is a bit hard to handle.
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Ojoe Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:05:51pm |
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:06:30pm |
g'night everyone.
first job for a while in the morning.
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windsagio Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:06:33pm |
re: #108 reine.de.tout
Iraq had alot going for it PR wise, and was easier and simpler looking than Afghanistan ever was...
Makes sense that people preferred it in a way.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:07:11pm |
re: #97 Racer X
I'm still in awe of how wonderful this performance is. I fell in love with Pink that night.
Pink - Glitter in the Air (Grammy's)
[Video]
I had to watch that twice.
Amazing.
The whole thing.
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McSpiff Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:07:12pm |
re: #109 Racer X
I remember being maybe... 8 or 9? Maybe even younger.
Mom had gone out of town, leaving me and Dad home to fend for ourselves. No big deal, she had left fish sticks. We'd survive. Except on Sunday afternoon he got called into work. Works for the city water dept, a new subdivision needed its water lines "flushed" with chlorine bleach before they could bring them online.
Well, he couldn't find anyone to watch me so it became an impromptu "take the kid to work day". So we head out to the job site, me very excited to be riding along in the truck. Anyways, the city supplies the chemicals and more or less supervises the contractors doing the flush (or that's how I remember it anyways).
Well, this contractor didn't want to be there anymore than anyone else, so he has his guys rushing. He's over doing something with the pump, fiddling around when the line comes off. He gets his back turned but absolutely soaks his leather jacket in bleach. Totally ruined. I can't stop laughing, all the other laborers are laughing at me, dad thinks its all great and this guy is just freaking out. He wants to get mad at me, but knows he can't. I know he can't either, so we all keep laughing. Never forgot that image.
That was the only time I've gotten to go the job site with him. Definitely a favorite memory I haven't thought of in years. Thanks for reminding me.
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ProMayaLiberal Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:07:32pm |
re: #99 Dark_Falcon
Is it possible that when we invaded Afghanistan, that perhaps a different model of government would have been better than the one there now? I know that there are 4 large Ethnic Groups in the country, with the Taliban (at least in the past) predominantly from just one of them (the Pashtun). Perhaps it would have been better to have a more decentralized government, like that of Switzerland or the United Kingdom?
re: #107 marjoriemoon
I'm interested to hear about what Uday did. I'm not old enough to know of any of the stories about Uday.
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Racer X Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:08:01pm |
Also - I think this kid just nailed the song. He owns it now.
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McSpiff Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:08:26pm |
re: #113 wozzablog
When we leave - as long as women can go to school and hold down jobs - i think the world will forget.
I think that's a very big "if". Its close enough that Chinese could use their own people. Setup a compound around each mine, use the PLA as security and let the Taliban do whatever they want. That's how I'd run it.
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Racer X Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:08:30pm |
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Racer X Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:09:52pm |
re: #124 reine.de.tout
I had to watch that twice.
Amazing.
The whole thing.
She did that live - at the Grammy's in front of some very talented people. She got a standing ovation. Check the look on everyone's faces after.
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ProMayaLiberal Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:10:21pm |
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McSpiff Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:10:47pm |
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Wozza Matter? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:11:00pm |
re: #128 McSpiff
I think that's a very big "if". Its close enough that Chinese could use their own people. Setup a compound around each mine, use the PLA as security and let the Taliban do whatever they want. That's how I'd run it.
Will try and respond tomorrow, bed time now.
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blueraven Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:11:14pm |
re: #61 rwdflynavy
"the surge in Iraq will never work"
Has it worked? I mean really for it's intended purpose. To give the government of Iraq time to get itself together. Only time will tell.
That doesn't not diminish the fact that our soldiers have been heroic in their efforts and quite successful in the mission. But the final verdict on the surge strategy is still out.
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Racer X Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:11:45pm |
re: #125 McSpiff
Good thing he turned his back. Bleach to the face can be nasty.
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McSpiff Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:13:02pm |
re: #137 Racer X
Good thing he turned his back. Bleach to the face can be nasty.
Oh man, especially this stuff. I like to assume I just took my cues from a) The other men not seeming particularly paniced and b) cartoons.
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Mich-again Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:13:07pm |
re: #115 darthstar
Well, if the plug is not there in the P trap, then the obstruction is in the main line and it should be affecting other sinks as well. If its just that one sink, it can't be in the main.
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Racer X Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:14:51pm |
re: #135 Ojoe
Gaga has the shock value for sure, but that performance by Pink is way up there on my all time best list. She nailed that in front of a tough crowd.
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Racer X Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:16:23pm |
re: #139 Mich-again
Well, if the plug is not there in the P trap, then the obstruction is in the main line and it should be affecting other sinks as well. If its just that one sink, it can't be in the main.
Probably the next junction downstream from the P-trap. Gunk does not like elbows and tee's.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:16:29pm |
re: #126 ProLifeLiberal
re: #107 marjoriemoon
I'm interested to hear about what Uday did. I'm not old enough to know of any of the stories about Uday.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
In October 1988, at a party in honor of Suzanne Mubarak, wife of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, Uday murdered his father's personal valet and food taster, Kamel Hana Gegeo (some say at the request of his mother). Before an assemblage of horrified guests, an intoxicated Uday bludgeoned Gegeo with a cane, reputedly administering the coup de grâce with an electric carving knife.
And that's when he was being nice.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:17:10pm |
re: #111 goddamnedfrank
How many schools, roads, hospitals and improvements to Afghanistan's electrical grid could we have created instead of investing in body bags for use in Iraq?
Non of those improvements are of much use as long as the population there remains so insular and uneducated. The schools get bombed, and the money for the rest of the improvements gets stolen. Iraq actually has a tradition of trade and thus is a better place to spend infrastructure money.
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Nervous Norvous Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:17:13pm |
re: #124 reine.de.tout
I had to watch that twice.
Amazing.
The whole thing.
The thong is gone but the melody lingers on. :)
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Racer X Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:19:39pm |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:20:21pm |
re: #116 goddamnedfrank
Everyone I knew then who tried to convince me that liberating those poor oppressed Iraqis was the right thing to do couldn't give a rat's ass about them now.
Well, I give a rat's ass. I try to follow news as much as I can, but there's precious little. I assume it's because things are basically going OK. Could be totally wrong, of course.
re: #118 Nimed
reine, are you in favor of retreating from Afghanistan? If you aren't, I think you have to agree with wind that going to Iraq hurt our war efforts in Afghanistan.
Pardon me for sticking my nose in your discussion. The war in Afghanistan is an important issue that's been somewhat forgotten and it needs more debate.
I agree it's important. The son of one of my HS friends just got home from Afghanistan; she was a wreck the entire time he was there.
Honestly - I don't have a clue what should be done. Afghanistan is such a complicated place, always has been, complicated further by extremely harsh terrain in some areas that no one but an Afghani can operate in, apparently, at least no one except those who have local help.
What it seems to need, that I don't think it's ever really had, is a sort of national stability.
I think there is a lack of education among most Afghans, coupled with a lack of desire for any education. I think most are unaware of much of what exists in other parts of the world, or it's beyond their ability to understand; I think many live from day to day, wanting only that day's needs met, and unconcerned about any sort of future. What they have right now seems good enough to them. And whoever they believe will help them keep things the same - that's who gets support on that day.
All of these observations are not observations from any sort of deep reading or studying of the situation or people there, just the things I sort of "read between the lines" when I see news stories from Afghanistan, so I could be completely off-base.
I just think Afghanistan will not, in my lifetime, undergo any sort of culture change, or desire for a culture change, that will create any sort of stability there.
As to stay or leave . . . I'm basically at this point trying to figure out what I think, and am open to hearing whatever reasonable and rational arguments there are for either option.
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Nervous Norvous Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:20:26pm |
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McSpiff Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:22:08pm |
Alright folks, I have a product demo to run for the boss tomorrow so im getting plenty of sleep, everyone play nice!
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Nervous Norvous Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:22:27pm |
re: #148 McSpiff
Sure do make for a fun wrong tho.
This is true, tho they do make the whole concept of a wedgie redundant...
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Racer X Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:23:29pm |
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:23:51pm |
re: #97 Racer X
I'm still in awe of how wonderful this performance is. I fell in love with Pink that night.
Pink - Glitter in the Air (Grammy's)
[Video]
That was like...whoa, and she could sing while she had her ass in that sling?
Most people would be screaming their heads off.
Also, those three models or whatever they were, doing the upside down splits, didn't even get to take a bow.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:23:56pm |
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Nervous Norvous Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:24:06pm |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:24:30pm |
re: #99 Dark_Falcon
That's what I was thinking in terms of: a trade off. China agrees to stay out of the Western Hemisphere, and in return they get whatever riches Afghanistan holds and we promise to ensure that no ruckus is raised if they do nasty things to secure them. The plan would essentially throw the Afghans themselves under the bus. That's why I don't like it, but i wanted to put it out there to get people's reactions.
Whoa.
Who is in a position to "give" Afghan riches to the Chinese?
And IMO, the Afghans at this point are throwing themselves under the bus.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:24:50pm |
re: #146 reine.de.tout
Well, I give a rat's ass. I try to follow news as much as I can, but there's precious little. I assume it's because things are basically going OK. Could be totally wrong, of course.
I've just met a hell of a lot of Pontius Pilates, you aren't one of them.
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Nervous Norvous Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:24:57pm |
re: #152 Alouette
That was like...whoa, and she could sing while she had her ass in that sling?
Most people would be screaming their heads off.
Also, those three models or whatever they were, doing the upside down splits, didn't even get to take a bow.
I've had my ass in a sling any number of times, and I couldn't sing either. She did a remarkable job.
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elizajane Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:28:53pm |
Help! What to do?
My 82-year-old father is in California visiting my family for a week. For the past few years I've mostly seen him in Europe where there are many distractions so I hadn't kept up with his politics.
I now discover that he's a fervent tea-partier.
He's a bit tired of Rush Limbaugh but he thinks Mark Levin has some interesting ideas although sometimes he goes a little bit far, ha ha.
He reads the news on TownHall (paper news, WSJ).
The country would be a lot better off if McCain and Palin were running it.
Obama is a product of affirmative action (too stupid to have gotten into Harvard any other way) and is pretty plainly a Socialist.
Global warming is a hoax.
I don't know how it happened! He was a Socialist himself, like a card-carrying one, in his youth. He's become the epitome of the old, white, selfish guy, who doesn't want to pay taxes but keeps collecting govt. benefits.
What do I do with him?? What if he wants to move here? Conversing with him is like hearing a list of talking points from HotAir.
I despair.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:29:25pm |
re: #152 Alouette
That was like...whoa, and she could sing while she had her ass in that sling?
Most people would be screaming their heads off.
Also, those three models or whatever they were, doing the upside down splits, didn't even get to take a bow.
LOL.
That's what I was thinking, too, she can still sing while she's up there?
That was no easy feat, that took a great deal of strength, training and practice. It was amazing.
I've seen performances similar to this by Cirque du Soleil, where they seem to have an endless supply of folks who can do those sorts of performances - I suspect those others were professional dancers or gymnasts, or maybe could even have been circus performers.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:30:21pm |
re: #158 elizajane
Help! What to do?
My 82-year-old father is in California visiting my family for a week. For the past few years I've mostly seen him in Europe where there are many distractions so I hadn't kept up with his politics.I now discover that he's a fervent tea-partier.
He's a bit tired of Rush Limbaugh but he thinks Mark Levin has some interesting ideas although sometimes he goes a little bit far, ha ha.
He reads the news on TownHall (paper news, WSJ).
The country would be a lot better off if McCain and Palin were running it.
Obama is a product of affirmative action (too stupid to have gotten into Harvard any other way) and is pretty plainly a Socialist.
Global warming is a hoax.I don't know how it happened! He was a Socialist himself, like a card-carrying one, in his youth. He's become the epitome of the old, white, selfish guy, who doesn't want to pay taxes but keeps collecting govt. benefits.
What do I do with him?? What if he wants to move here? Conversing with him is like hearing a list of talking points from HotAir.
I despair.
Tell him you love him.
Talk to steer the conversation to other things.
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Nervous Norvous Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:30:33pm |
re: #159 reine.de.tout
LOL.
That's what I was thinking, too, she can still sing while she's up there?
That was no easy feat, that took a great deal of strength, training and practice. It was amazing.I've seen performances similar to this by Cirque du Soleil, where they seem to have an endless supply of folks who can do those sorts of performances - I suspect those others were professional dancers or gymnasts, or maybe could even have been circus performers.
Not to mention walking around in a leotard that left her practically nekkid. Lots of body confidence there.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:30:46pm |
re: #158 elizajane
Love him. Ask him to lunch and talk about what's going on in your family. Not worth an argument with an elderly dad unless you think you can have a civil discussion.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:30:57pm |
re: #143 Dark_Falcon
Non of those improvements are of much use as long as the population there remains so insular and uneducated. The schools get bombed, and the money for the rest of the improvements gets stolen. Iraq actually has a tradition of trade and thus is a better place to spend infrastructure money.
Iraq actually had plenty of infrastructure, along with one of the best nation health care systems and standards of living in the region, before we bombed the shit out of it.
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Kronocide Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:31:19pm |
re: #155 reine.de.tout
Whoa.
Who is in a position to "give" Afghan riches to the Chinese?
And IMO, the Afghans at this point are throwing themselves under the bus.
Good questions. The first question, I don't know.
Second, do the Agfhans know they are throwing themselves under the bus?
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:32:36pm |
From the Pashtun phrasebook:
"Under the Bus" --Doing what foreigners want you to do.
"Fun" --Kicking foreign ass.
"Good Day at the Office" --Watching Russian foreigners leave, looking for next foreigner.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:33:17pm |
re: #161 PT Barnum
Not to mention walking around in a leotard that left her practically nekkid. Lots of body confidence there.
And for very good reason.
She has the body to carry it off.
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:33:28pm |
re: #158 elizajane
Help! What to do?
What do I do with him?? What if he wants to move here? Conversing with him is like hearing a list of talking points from HotAir.
I despair.
Call FEMA to take him to the reeducation camps until the death panels can be convened. That's what liberals are supposed to do, right?
No, seriously, just get him interested in other things. It'll be something else to talk about, and people deprogram fairly fast when they aren't continually exposed to the cult.
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Stanghazi Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:33:38pm |
re: #155 reine.de.tout
Whoa.
Who is in a position to "give" Afghan riches to the Chinese?
And IMO, the Afghans at this point are throwing themselves under the bus.
On that first point I so agree. What the hell? Getting back to our original intentions, to eradicate the Taliban, has nothing to do with dispersing the riches of the country. I'm naive about it I know, but still.
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Nervous Norvous Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:33:49pm |
re: #160 reine.de.tout
Tell him you love him.
Talk to steer the conversation to other things.
My 92 year old father in law is just the opposite. Used to be a hardcore republican and now watches Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann religiously. Is very impressed with Rachel, by the way.
He served in the Pacific during WWII, was a funeral director and business man, Since my own dad passed away, he's been a decent surrogate.
My dad was the conservative, but I think even he would have been disgusted by what's been happening in the GOP.
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elizajane Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:34:13pm |
re: #162 marjoriemoon
Love him. Ask him to lunch and talk about what's going on in your family. Not worth an argument with an elderly dad unless you think you can have a civil discussion.
Thanks to you and reine. Yes you are right. But it makes him a difficult dinner guest with our friends. He is very sociable and loves to argue. Even with a crowd of rational Republicans, like we had last night, he's right off the edge.
Will keep talking about food and wine. The weather doesn't work because it might be code for Global Warming....
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Nervous Norvous Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:34:33pm |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:35:49pm |
re: #164 BigPapa
Good questions. The first question, I don't know.
Second, do the Agfhans know they are throwing themselves under the bus?
Second question - no, they don't. They are happy if today's needs are met.
Perhaps we should leave them to it.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:36:10pm |
re: #169 PT Barnum
My 92 year old father in law is just the opposite. Used to be a hardcore republican and now watches Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann religiously. Is very impressed with Rachel, by the way.
He served in the Pacific during WWII, was a funeral director and business man, Since my own dad passed away, he's been a decent surrogate.
My dad was the conservative, but I think even he would have been disgusted by what's been happening in the GOP.
I thank you for that story. Makes me feel a bit less like a traitor.
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Stanghazi Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:36:25pm |
OK folks, got to start preparing for the Mad Men Season premiere dinner and after dinner. Going to whip out the 1965 Lazy Susan I got off of ebay.
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TedStriker Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:36:40pm |
re: #142 marjoriemoon
re: #107 marjoriemoon
I'm interested to hear about what Uday did. I'm not old enough to know of any of the stories about Uday.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
And that's when he was being nice.
Bottom line: Uday Hussein, like his brother and his father, was a cruel, sadistic sonofabitch who deserves what he got.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:38:35pm |
re: #168 Stanley Sea
On that first point I so agree. What the hell? Getting back to our original intentions, to eradicate the Taliban, has nothing to do with dispersing the riches of the country. I'm naive about it I know, but still.
I don't think DF meant it literally, when he said it, the phrasing was awkward.
I think he meant more that we would cut a deal with the Chinese that if they wish to pursue interests in Afghanistan, through the Afghan gov't. we wouldn't oppose it, or some such.
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Nervous Norvous Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:38:36pm |
re: #176 talon_262
Bottom line: Uday Hussein, like his brother and his father, was a cruel, sadistic sonofabitch who deserves what he got.
Both of the Hussein brothers were vicious, brutal animals.
My hope is that they meet 97 Virgils in Heaven who will beat their asses to a pulp.
(That is if the Virgils are like the Virgil I worked for for a while, who was a big mean guy.)
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Nervous Norvous Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:39:22pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:40:35pm |
re: #163 goddamnedfrank
Iraq actually had plenty of infrastructure, along with one of the best nation health care systems and standards of living in the region, before we bombed the shit out of it.
Actually, most of the devastation was caused by the Iraqis themselves. Ultimately, we will leave Iraq better than we found it.
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reginald perrin Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:40:54pm |
re: #175 Stanley Sea
. Going to whip out the 1965 Lazy Susan
Isn't a whip a little extreme. maybe start with a riding crop and then move on to a whip if Suzan is still lazy
///
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:41:11pm |
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:41:19pm |
re: #176 talon_262
Bottom line: Uday Hussein, like his brother and his father, was a cruel, sadistic sonofabitch who deserves what he got.
When they were killed, someone told me that their local paper had the headline 'Uday and Qusay are Ead-Day.'
I really hope that's true.
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Nimed Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:41:57pm |
re: #146 reine.de.tout
Right, I'm pretty much on the fence myself regarding Afghanistan. It seems to me that there were three main objectives to be reached with the war:
- dealing with the Al Qaeda presence, which we largely did by now;
- insuring the safety of Pakistan's nuclear arsenal. I must say I have no idea how this is going;
- the nation-building part: stabilizing the region, holding meaningful elections, investing and helping in the construction of basic infrastructure.
We are not there, contrary to some people in this thread think, to kill all the Taliban. The Taliban movement is incredibly oppressive, but it's almost certainly too costly to eradicate it by eliminating all their members. Worse, our methods so far are killing a lot of civilians and making the Taliban more relatively more sympathetic to non-Pashtun locals, as General McChrystal himself admitted. That's the opposite of what we want.
So, like you, I don't know if it's worth the cost to continue with the war.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:44:26pm |
re: #184 Nimed
Right, I'm pretty much on the fence myself regarding Afghanistan. It seems to me that there were three main objectives to be reached with the war:
- dealing with the Al Qaeda presence, which we largely did by now;
- insuring the safety of Pakistan's nuclear arsenal. I must say I have no idea how this is going;
- the nation-building part: stabilizing the region, holding meaningful elections, investing and helping in the construction of basic infrastructure.
We are not there, contrary to some people in this thread think, to kill all the Taliban. The Taliban movement is incredibly oppressive, but it's almost certainly too costly to eradicate it by eliminating all their members. Worse, our methods so far are killing a lot of civilians and making the Taliban more relatively more sympathetic to non-Pashtun locals, as General McChrystal himself admitted. That's the opposite of what we want.
So, like you, I don't know if it's worth the cost to continue with the war.
I believe there was also an objective to overthrow the Taliban government, which was accomplished.
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ProMayaLiberal Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:46:33pm |
re: #178 PT Barnum
I personally prefer them being in the Inner Ring of the 7th Circle of Hell.
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prairiefire Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:47:42pm |
Pink had a bad fall while doing her trapeze part of her show in Germany. She was pretty banged up, but is doing alright. [Link: showbiz.sky.com...]
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Nervous Norvous Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:48:06pm |
re: #186 ProLifeLiberal
I personally prefer them being in the Inner Ring of the 7th Circle of Hell.
Hows about just letting them be sodomized by a bull elephant?
Or even worse, to have to be given a sense of empathy and have to face up to what they have done.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:48:14pm |
re: #187 LudwigVanQuixote
hey all! How goes tonight?
Slow.
Then it got busy for a bit.
Now seems to be slow again.
Howya doin?
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Political Atheist Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:49:40pm |
re: #185 reine.de.tout
I believe there was also an objective to overthrow the Taliban government, which was accomplished.
We moved the goalposts. We seek to put the place back in far better shape than we left it. Europe, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. We certainly had the option to not do the Marshall plan. We had the option of killing Saddam and running out of town. We could have bombed Afghanistan "up to the stone age", and walked away. But we are better than that. What angers me is conflating a failure of the rebuild with a failure of the original core mission. Smash the Nazis. End the Hirohito empire. Get North Korea out of South Korea. Etc, etc. Conflating like that is pure hateful politics each and every time.
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TedStriker Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:49:57pm |
re: #183 Renaissance_Man
When they were killed, someone told me that their local paper had the headline 'Uday and Qusay are Ead-Day.'
I really hope that's true.
SO.FUCKING.AWESOME.
(if it was true)
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prairiefire Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:50:03pm |
re: #175 Stanley Sea
OK folks, got to start preparing for the Mad Men Season premiere dinner and after dinner. Going to whip out the 1965 Lazy Susan I got off of ebay.
Ha! Hose, heels and eyeliner? Olives for the martinis? Plenty of clothing made from miracle material acetate, preferably in a heavy brocade?
Have fun!
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:51:37pm |
re: #190 reine.de.tout
Slow.
Then it got busy for a bit.
Now seems to be slow again.Howya doin?
In my office writing a paper. Bored out of my mind and not wanting to do it. There was a very large storm though which I missed. However, lots of tress are down and so is power of a large area.
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Nimed Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:52:05pm |
re: #185 reine.de.tout
I believe there was also an objective to overthrow the Taliban government, which was accomplished.
The rationale of that objective is that were sheltering and assisting Al Qaeda. I didn't include that because it's almost a perfect example of a Pyrrhic victory. What good does that do if it doesn't last? They are a political movement with a very strong local support (among the Pashtun) and will be back in power as soon as we leave.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:53:18pm |
re: #194 LudwigVanQuixote
In my office writing a paper. Bored out of my mind and not wanting to do it. There was a very large storm though which I missed. However, lots of tress are down and so is power of a large area.
I'm at home doing research for my work.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:54:15pm |
re: #170 elizajane
Thanks to you and reine. Yes you are right. But it makes him a difficult dinner guest with our friends. He is very sociable and loves to argue. Even with a crowd of rational Republicans, like we had last night, he's right off the edge.
Will keep talking about food and wine. The weather doesn't work because it might be code for Global Warming...
I grew up with the adults in my family talking politics at every holiday dinner. When I was little, I'd hear them yelling at each other, but didn't know what it was all about or who was on which side. They didn't allow any of it to effect their relationships with each other. My parents were liberal. Dad passed away in 93. Mom and I still have great talks.
Anyway, your family probably understands he is who he is and has his opinions, and not hold it against him. You may want to warn strangers! You'll probably have to gauge how much or what you say, but that can be ok.
I have a boss who is far right. Loves Glenn Beck and is forever telling me how broke he is now that Obama is president. I've managed to interject humor into our political discussions. He does pay my salary, after all. So when he moans about his finances, I tell him how sorry I feel for him and that we have a shed in the back of the property if he ever wants to move. He bought his home for $1.5 million, owns a fishing boat (used to have two) and a plane.
hehe
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:54:32pm |
re: #188 prairiefire
Pink had a bad fall while doing her trapeze part of her show in Germany. She was pretty banged up, but is doing alright. [Link: showbiz.sky.com...]
OUCH.
She's OK now, the report says.
but OUCH!
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:56:49pm |
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:57:40pm |
re: #199 Leoben Conoy
Welcome. You've arrived on a rather calm night.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:57:45pm |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:57:57pm |
re: #191 Rightwingconspirator
We moved the goalposts. We seek to put the place back in far better shape than we left it. Europe, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. We certainly had the option to not do the Marshall plan. We had the option of killing Saddam and running out of town. We could have bombed Afghanistan "up to the stone age", and walked away. But we are better than that. What angers me is conflating a failure of the rebuild with a failure of the original core mission. Smash the Nazis. End the Hirohito empire. Get North Korea out of South Korea. Etc, etc. Conflating like that is pure hateful politics each and every time.
I understand your point; I'm not sure the core mission in Afghanistan is, well, clear at this point, or that whatever it was or is, has been accomplished.
re: #195 Nimed
The rationale of that objective is that were sheltering and assisting Al Qaeda. I didn't include that because it's almost a perfect example of a Pyrrhic victory. What good does that do if it doesn't last? They are a political movement with a very strong local support (among the Pashtun) and will be back in power as soon as we leave.
I agree, the Taliban will be back in power as soon as, or shortly after, we leave. And I don't believe there is one thing WE can do to stop that. I don't think there's the will in Afghanistan to look beyond today.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:58:55pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:59:21pm |
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Four More Tears Sun, Jul 25, 2010 6:59:32pm |
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:00:20pm |
re: #203 Leoben Conoy
Thanks! It's been a while since the window opened.
/we have had a problem with jumpers lately...
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Political Atheist Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:00:49pm |
re: #204 reine.de.tout
One thing Afghanistan will remember. Why it would be smart to not make us come back. If the Taliban again runs the country it will be a shame for them. Not us.
But I suspect the next guy that says he wants to base an attack on America there will be quickly dispatched and buried where he serves as a warning.
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Four More Tears Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:01:46pm |
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Kronocide Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:01:50pm |
Reine,
I share your rethinking phase in Afghanistan. It is a much different challenge than Iraq. I have no answers at this point and hope Petraus doesn't just think 'worked in Iraq, will work here.'
After a great week of seeing Sherrod's salvation and Breitbart's very public facepalm, Afghanistan is cause for some serious worry.
That's all I have at the moment.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:02:19pm |
re: #210 Leoben Conoy
What brings you in to register and post? Any particular interests?
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A Man for all Seasons Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:02:19pm |
re: #194 LudwigVanQuixote
In my office writing a paper. Bored out of my mind and not wanting to do it. There was a very large storm though which I missed. However, lots of tress are down and so is power of a large area.
I'm in Oklahoma...Hanging out..
How are you Ludwig?
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:02:53pm |
re: #204 reine.de.tout
I agree, the Taliban will be back in power as soon as, or shortly after, we leave. And I don't believe there is one thing WE can do to stop that. I don't think there's the will in Afghanistan to look beyond today.
There were modernizing forces there. (It's been reported that Kabul was once a hotbed of mini-skirts--NPR.) After the Russians, and the Mujahideen, and the Taliban they are probably extinct.
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Ojoe Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:02:59pm |
re: #186 ProLifeLiberal
Dante's hell has 9 levels even.
Dante's heaven has only 7.
IIRC
So you can put him 2 levels lower.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:03:03pm |
re: #209 Rightwingconspirator
One thing Afghanistan will remember. Why it would be smart to not make us come back. If the Taliban again runs the country it will be a shame for them. Not us.
But I suspect the next guy that says he wants to base an attack on America there will be quickly dispatched and buried where he serves as a warning.
I would like to believe that but we are dealing with a different mindset...
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Political Atheist Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:04:51pm |
re: #187 LudwigVanQuixote
hey all! How goes tonight?
So far? Fine food and good company. How are things for you?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:05:34pm |
Albusteve made the top and bottom 10 Nice.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:05:55pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:06:32pm |
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:07:16pm |
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:07:43pm |
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:07:49pm |
re: #221 Cannadian Club Akbar
Tricky to do that.
not that tricky if you stick to your guns... GO Steve!
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:08:20pm |
re: #212 BigPapa
Reine,
I share your rethinking phase in Afghanistan. It is a much different challenge than Iraq. I have no answers at this point and hope Petraus doesn't just think 'worked in Iraq, will work here.'
After a great week of seeing Sherrod's salvation and Breitbart's very public facepalm, Afghanistan is cause for some serious worry.
That's all I have at the moment.
Interesting, isn't it, that it seems to be a puzzlement for the 3 or 4 of us on this thread who've addressed it. Wonder if the gov't is just as confused as we are?
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:08:54pm |
re: #223 Killgore Trout
I worked for months on that before I made it.
I was about to say - you did it at least once, mebbe twice, IIRC.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:09:10pm |
re: #221 Cannadian Club Akbar
Tricky to do that.
You have to make enough people happy while pissing off enough people to make it work.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:09:18pm |
re: #225 Leoben Conoy
Just that I've been trying for quite a while, I like Charles' photos and music videos he posts.
well despite what you may have heard there are no centerfolds...
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What, me worry? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:10:03pm |
re: #219 Cannadian Club Akbar
Albusteve made the top and bottom 10 Nice.
hehe I see a few sleepers have awakened.
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prairiefire Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:10:33pm |
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:10:47pm |
re: #227 reine.de.tout
Yeah, twice I think.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:10:52pm |
re: #228 Cannadian Club Akbar
You have to make enough people happy while pissing off enough people to make it work.
AND you pretty much don't have to care whether you're making people happy or pissing 'em off.
Not sure I'll ever reach that point.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:10:55pm |
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Political Atheist Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:11:00pm |
re: #225 Leoben Conoy
Just that I've been trying for quite a while, I like Charles' photos and music videos he posts.
Well the Pages have opened that up big time. Again, welcome and I look forward to discussions with you.
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Nimed Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:12:12pm |
re: #221 Cannadian Club Akbar
Tricky to do that.
His bottom ten place is shaky, it's only a -1. We should go downding the comment just to consolidate his position.
/
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:12:23pm |
re: #234 reine.de.tout
AND you pretty much don't have to care whether you're making people happy or pissing 'em off.
Not sure I'll ever reach that point.
Just try Reine. Just try!!!
/and woot!!!!
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:12:37pm |
re: #234 reine.de.tout
AND you pretty much don't have to care whether you're making people happy or pissing 'em off.
Not sure I'll ever reach that point.
CHORUS
But it's all right now, I learned my lesson well.
You see, ya can't please everyone, so ya got to please yourself
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:13:11pm |
re: #232 prairiefire
re: #160 reine.de.tout
You two are terrific. I feel humbled.
{prairiefire}
I believe I had to have had the most difficult father in the world to deal with, and THEN, it got even worse when the Alzheimer's set in. There were places you just didn't go, conversations you just didn't have. It was all about trying to keep the peace. 'Cause you're stuck with each other.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:13:46pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:14:19pm |
re: #237 Nimed
His bottom ten place is shaky, it's only a -1. We should go downding the comment just to consolidate his position.
/
We need to try to suck more. Wait. what?
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Four More Tears Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:14:35pm |
re: #239 brookly red
CHORUS
But it's all right now, I learned my lesson well.
You see, ya can't please everyone, so ya got to please yourself
In bed.
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Nervous Norvous Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:15:42pm |
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:16:01pm |
I see there was some Afghanistan discussion earlier. I know I've been goofing on the conservative's new plans for Afghanistan. I think there is a real discussion to be had about the best course of action. However, the Repubilcan/Tea Party about face is not really about the best policy. It's about Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan and pure ODS that they'd love to lose a war and blame it on Obama.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:16:09pm |
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darthstar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:16:35pm |
Okay, about to give you an update on the sink, but the wife wants me to play "Name that spice" as I've got bulk spices that are unlabeled in the cabinet...
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What, me worry? Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:17:02pm |
re: #244 PT Barnum
We do have a bunch of master debaters here.
I love quick time harch.
...bobbing head...
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:17:18pm |
re: #242 Cannadian Club Akbar
We need to try to suck more. Wait. what?
/what you got a snake bite or something?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:17:20pm |
re: #247 darthstar
Okay, about to give you an update on the sink, but the wife wants me to play "Name that spice" as I've got bulk spices that are unlabeled in the cabinet...
GO WITH TARRAGON!!!
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:17:23pm |
Ugh, I've been laid up with various muscle injuries (they keep moving) the past few days. I'm usually impervious to boredom but being more or less bed ridden is starting to get to me.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:18:01pm |
I made Tomato Pie today.
Somebody posted the recipe here a day or two ago, and I made it just like they said.
Here's what they didn't tell you:
1. REALLY drain those tomatoes, I mean, let the slices sit in the colander for no less than 10 minutes, and THEN pat them all over with a paper towel, then again. Get as much liquid out of the tomato slices as you can (or the diced tomatoes if you're using canned).
2. It probably would have been helpful if I had put the pie crust into the oven and let it cook for a bit before I loaded it up with the tomatoes and the mayo/cheddar/mozzarella topping. Pie crust was soggy, and I think if I'd cooked it a bit first, it wouldn't have been.
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Four More Tears Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:18:06pm |
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ProMayaLiberal Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:18:19pm |
re: #216 Ojoe
Agreed. Based of of the descriptions, he could actually be placed in Round 3, named Ptolomaea, in the 9th circle of Hell.
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prairiefire Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:18:28pm |
re: #240 reine.de.tout
It was so sad when my pretty, sweet Grandma Helen developed dementia. It's so hard to have them right there, but they're not. In 3 years she had about 1 lucid moment when she recognized my and said "Why, hello sweet."
I hope I have another 20 years before I lose all my folks, but it is probably more like 15.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:19:09pm |
re: #247 darthstar
Okay, about to give you an update on the sink, but the wife wants me to play "Name that spice" as I've got bulk spices that are unlabeled in the cabinet...
remember that quarter pound you lost in 92?
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:19:35pm |
re: #245 Killgore Trout
I see there was some Afghanistan discussion earlier. I know I've been goofing on the conservative's new plans for Afghanistan. I think there is a real discussion to be had about the best course of action. However, the Repubilcan/Tea Party about face is not really about the best policy. It's about Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan and pure ODS that they'd love to lose a war and blame it on Obama.
There was some Afghan discussion, and there seems to be great puzzlement about what should be done at this point.
I know I don't have a firm opinion one way or the other; I also haven't heard, lately, any strong arguments for staying there, or any for leaving.
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Four More Tears Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:20:22pm |
re: #259 reine.de.tout
There was some Afghan discussion, and there seems to be great puzzlement about what should be done at this point.
I know I don't have a firm opinion one way or the other; I also haven't heard, lately, any strong arguments for staying there, or any for leaving.
Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
///
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:21:09pm |
re: #255 ProLifeLiberal
Agreed. Based of of the descriptions, he could actually be placed in Round 3, named Ptolomaea, in the 9th circle of Hell.
Did somebody say Inferno?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:22:08pm |
re: #258 prairiefire
It's Oregano, I swear.
Saute tarragon with red wine or vinegar and add it to hollandaise. Call it Bearnaise.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:22:50pm |
re: #259 reine.de.tout
There was some Afghan discussion, and there seems to be great puzzlement about what should be done at this point.
I know I don't have a firm opinion one way or the other; I also haven't heard, lately, any strong arguments for staying there, or any for leaving.
well in the big picture it is next door to Iran (which always was the target) so if you got Iraq on one side, Afghanistan on the other & a fleet in the gulf... well just look at a map.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:23:39pm |
Note to RDT-& BP
I would really like BP to pull the vapid commercials they run for PR and give that cash to shrimpers etc. Enough claims. Just Do It.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:23:50pm |
re: #239 brookly red
CHORUS
But it's all right now, I learned my lesson well.
You see, ya can't please everyone, so ya got to please yourself
Ricky Nelson. He actually wrote that song after he tried to cover the Rolling Stones Paint it Black at Madison Square Gardens and the fans booed him off the stage (OK, they also threw things).
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freetoken Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:24:01pm |
re: #259 reine.de.tout
I know I don't have a firm opinion one way or the other; I also haven't heard, lately, any strong arguments for staying there, or any for leaving.
That's the problem with some much of the "right" drifting off into nut-land - there isn't a public dialogue going on about real issues.
Afghanistan has been a problem for the West since at least the era when the British empire ruled south Asia.
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Nervous Norvous Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:24:28pm |
re: #252 Leoben Conoy
[Boos, Hisses and Catcalls]
You might not want to do that, it just encourages me...:)
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:24:37pm |
re: #256 prairiefire
It was so sad when my pretty, sweet Grandma Helen developed dementia. It's so hard to have them right there, but they're not. In 3 years she had about 1 lucid moment when she recognized my and said "Why, hello sweet."
I hope I have another 20 years before I lose all my folks, but it is probably more like 15.
Enjoy every moment that you can, really.
Because things can happen very quickly and suddenly, as they did with both my parents.
I visited them just before Thanksgiving 2007, all was well.
Then, December 13 - mom was diagnosed with cancer, PROBABLY ovarian cancer, could have been pancreatic cancer. She died December 31, before they finished the tests that would have given us a definite diagnosis. Meanwhile, on Dec 24th, while we're trying to deal with Mom, Dad fell and broke his hip, and had surgery to repair it. He was in rehab hospital the day mom died. After that - just downhill. Dad died on the last day of April 2008. We never expected it would all happen that way. So visit, and enjoy, and ignore whatever petty aggravations there are. So not worth it.
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Kronocide Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:24:58pm |
re: #245 Killgore Trout
I think there is a real discussion to be had about the best course of action. However, the Repubilcan/Tea Party about face is not really about the best policy. It's about Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan and pure ODS that they'd love to lose a war and blame it on Obama.
It's not about a plan, it's about a tactic within internal American politics.
I doubt we can just turn it into Western style democracy within a generation, that is naive. If Afghanistan can turn into a stable state that is the best that can be had at this point. Still a tall order.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:25:17pm |
re: #266 Dark_Falcon
Ricky Nelson. He actually wrote that song after he tried to cover the Rolling Stones Paint it Black at Madison Square Gardens and the fans booed him off the stage (OK, they also threw things).
it is a tuff-town for sure...
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Varek Raith Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:25:44pm |
re: #269 reine.de.tout
Enjoy every moment that you can, really.
Because things can happen very quickly and suddenly, as they did with both my parents.I visited them just before Thanksgiving 2007, all was well.
Then, December 13 - mom was diagnosed with cancer, PROBABLY ovarian cancer, could have been pancreatic cancer. She died December 31, before they finished the tests that would have given us a definite diagnosis. Meanwhile, on Dec 24th, while we're trying to deal with Mom, Dad fell and broke his hip, and had surgery to repair it. He was in rehab hospital the day mom died. After that - just downhill. Dad died on the last day of April 2008. We never expected it would all happen that way. So visit, and enjoy, and ignore whatever petty aggravations there are. So not worth it.
(((reine)))
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Nervous Norvous Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:25:51pm |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:26:43pm |
re: #264 brookly red
well in the big picture it is next door to Iran (which always was the target) so if you got Iraq on one side, Afghanistan on the other & a fleet in the gulf... well just look at a map.
Yep, I've looked at a map.
Can't figure out if you're trying to make an argument for or against staying.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:26:55pm |
re: #253 reine.de.tout
I made Tomato Pie today.
Somebody posted the recipe here a day or two ago, and I made it just like they said.Here's what they didn't tell you:
1. REALLY drain those tomatoes, I mean, let the slices sit in the colander for no less than 10 minutes, and THEN pat them all over with a paper towel, then again. Get as much liquid out of the tomato slices as you can (or the diced tomatoes if you're using canned).2. It probably would have been helpful if I had put the pie crust into the oven and let it cook for a bit before I loaded it up with the tomatoes and the mayo/cheddar/mozzarella topping. Pie crust was soggy, and I think if I'd cooked it a bit first, it wouldn't have been.
It's probably also depends on what kind of tomatoes you're using. Italian sauce tomatoes have a lot more flesh and less water than your average American style tomato.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:27:30pm |
re: #274 PT Barnum
You're in the wrong place then..:)
don't scare him off... we haven't done puns yet.
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Varek Raith Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:28:15pm |
re: #271 Leoben Conoy
One bad joke per day is enough for me.
A Rabbi, a priest and a Muslim walk into a bar.
The bartender asks, "What is this, some kind of joke?"
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:29:09pm |
re: #277 Killgore Trout
It's probably also depends on what kind of tomatoes you're using. Italian sauce tomatoes have a lot more flesh and less water than your average American style tomato.
I have #3151 tomatoes.
Walter could tell me what kind they are.
The store bin just said these were the "Slicing Tomatoes".
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Nervous Norvous Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:29:16pm |
re: #278 brookly red
don't scare him off... we haven't done puns yet.
True..though the thong thing earlier was a good example of what we get up to..:)
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Four More Tears Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:30:32pm |
re: #282 PT Barnum
True..though the thong thing earlier was a good example of what we get up to..:)
Yeah, we're up to our necks in thongs...
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:30:55pm |
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:31:14pm |
re: #275 reine.de.tout
Yep, I've looked at a map.
Can't figure out if you're trying to make an argument for or against staying.
well neither really... if you think doing Iran is good then it is the way to go, if you don't then there is not much point other than saving face. My guess is the powers that be want to do Iran or at least be in a position to do Iran hence the escalation.
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Nervous Norvous Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:31:17pm |
Somehow this explains a great deal for me
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Four More Tears Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:31:53pm |
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:32:15pm |
re: #275 reine.de.tout
Yep, I've looked at a map.
Can't figure out if you're trying to make an argument for or against staying.
You could have a future in the State Dept.
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prairiefire Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:32:17pm |
re: #275 reine.de.tout
I'm for staying. Hopefully active operations can move to more secure bases soon, but we will not give up this domino.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:32:34pm |
If I may be so bold, *wink nudge* the shrimp from the Gulf from ain't from the Gulf. Just sayin'.
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Four More Tears Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:32:48pm |
re: #289 prairiefire
I'm for staying. Hopefully active operations can move to more secure bases soon, but we will not give up this domino.
Pretty sure Russia said that at one point, too...
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engineer cat Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:32:58pm |
"innocent" questions:
did anybody tell americans back in the year of 1946 that we would never leave germany and japan?
do you really suppose that the government has any intention of ever really leaving iraq and afghanistan?
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:33:09pm |
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:33:15pm |
re: #290 Cannadian Club Akbar
If I may be so bold, *wink nudge* the shrimp from the Gulf from ain't from the Gulf. Just sayin'.
Sure they are--Gulf of Tonkin.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:33:50pm |
re: #288 Decatur Deb
You could have a future in the State Dept.
I did work for the gubmint, ya know.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:34:21pm |
re: #288 Decatur Deb
You could have a future in the State Dept.
MY dad was a company man... anyone surprised?
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:34:31pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:35:16pm |
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Four More Tears Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:35:17pm |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:35:26pm |
re: #290 Cannadian Club Akbar
If I may be so bold, *wink nudge* the shrimp from the Gulf from ain't from the Gulf. Just sayin'.
Where are they from?
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Political Atheist Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:35:27pm |
re: #295 reine.de.tout
I did work for the gubmint, ya know.
Which of course explains your angelic patience...
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:35:40pm |
re: #292 engineer dog
"innocent" questions:
did anybody tell americans back in the year of 1946 that we would never leave germany and japan?
do you really suppose that the government has any intention of ever really leaving iraq and afghanistan?
we are building some really big air bases in Iraq... just saying.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:35:48pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:36:02pm |
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prairiefire Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:36:03pm |
re: #291 JasonA
We have, too. I think that Islamic Fascism is a real threat, but a very small numbered one. It only takes 19, right? Probably less.
I think as a nation, we still have to have our mooks in everyone else's ME mook, for years.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:36:33pm |
re: #303 brookly red
we are building some really big air bases in Iraq... just saying.
Good--that means we're leaving.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:37:45pm |
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:37:46pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:38:21pm |
Reine, these are not shrimp from here.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:38:42pm |
re: #305 Cannadian Club Akbar
Shrimp (any seafood) sold in Louisiana must be labelled as to country of origin.
So if shrimp here say "Product of Louisiana", they're Louisiana shrimp.
And of course some folks go buy their shrimp directly from the shrimpers when they bring the catch in. Can't much argue with where they came from.
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Four More Tears Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:39:03pm |
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:39:16pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:39:45pm |
re: #311 reine.de.tout
Shrimp (any seafood) sold in Louisiana must be labelled as to country of origin.
So if shrimp here say "Product of Louisiana", they're Louisiana shrimp.
And of course some folks go buy their shrimp directly from the shrimpers when they bring the catch in. Can't much argue with where they came from.
My boxes say that, but they aren't from here.
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Nimed Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:40:28pm |
re: #303 brookly red
we are building some really big air bases in Iraq... just saying.
You're a funny guy.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:40:32pm |
re: #313 Decatur Deb
And we have companies that have companies that will buy it.
but it has turned into a gubermint program an those are for ever.
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prairiefire Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:40:41pm |
Did you buy them off the back of a truck?/
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:41:18pm |
re: #310 Cannadian Club Akbar
Reine, these are not shrimp from here.
I'm not doubting what you're saying.
There was a huge brou-ha-ha here a few years ago, with local fishers and seafood providers all upset because of seafood being brought in from overseas, and sold AS IF it were local - this included crawfish! Big deal it was, the Chinese crawfish.
So a law was passed that all seafood has to be labelled by country of origin; and there is a special logo that can be put on the package of anything local.
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freetoken Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:41:32pm |
re: #269 reine.de.tout
Enjoy every moment that you can, really.
Because things can happen very quickly and suddenly, as they did with both my parents.
Good words.
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Nimed Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:41:48pm |
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:42:22pm |
re: #318 brookly red
but it has turned into a gubermint program an those are for ever.
They are, but the program is to build newer and bigger airfields in some other hapless shithole.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:42:39pm |
re: #314 BigPapa
All your shrimps are belong to us.
You BP execs have no chance. Make your time. Ha ha ha!!
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Four More Tears Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:42:40pm |
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Nimed Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:43:20pm |
re: #317 JasonA
Now that I have a little more time, I'll probably give Geneforge 5 a try. Like, tonight.
Because I practice what I preach.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:43:45pm |
re: #312 JasonA
o.O
Do they have an accent?
if your shrimp are talking to you I suggest 100mg of Seroquel twice a day...
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engineer cat Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:43:55pm |
re: #314 BigPapa
All your shrimps are belong to us.
the ebil influence of Big Shrimp on our gubbermint!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:43:56pm |
re: #321 reine.de.tout
Reine. What we are getting is Taiwanese shrimp in your local boxes. Trust me. I know.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:44:01pm |
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Four More Tears Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:44:36pm |
re: #327 Nimed
Now that I have a little more time, I'll probably give Geneforge 5 a try. Like, tonight.
Because I practice what I preach.
Ah. I've spent all the gaming money I can for a while. Bioshock 2 was definitely worth it. I think I'll save my shekels for a 360 now.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:44:49pm |
re: #330 Cannadian Club Akbar
Reine. What we are getting is Taiwanese shrimp in your local boxes. Trust me. I know.
I don't doubt you.
What I'm telling you - somebody's breaking the law doing that.
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freetoken Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:45:15pm |
re: #330 Cannadian Club Akbar
We tend to get lots of sea food from the Gulf... the Gulf of Thailand, here in SoCal. About half the seafood at the store I shop is from SE Asia.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:45:19pm |
re: #324 Decatur Deb
They are, but the program is to build newer and bigger airfields in some other hapless shithole.
I would bet on past performances...
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:45:34pm |
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TedStriker Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:45:56pm |
re: #320 prairiefire
Did you buy them off the back of a truck?/
"Hey youse guys...I've got an offer you can't refuse on deez shrimps right here!"
;-P
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Nervous Norvous Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:46:35pm |
I'm off. And I'm leaving for the evening. Have fun everybody.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:46:58pm |
re: #334 freetoken
We tend to get lots of sea food from the Gulf... the Gulf of Thailand, here in SoCal. About half the seafood at the store I shop is from SE Asia.
There is a HUGE difference.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:47:01pm |
re: #335 brookly red
I would bet on past performances...
He's got until Summer 2011, them I'm going LBJ on his ass.
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prairiefire Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:47:33pm |
re: #331 reine.de.tout
Sorry, yes, meant for CCA. They have to label shrimp with country of origin in the supermarkets here.
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Kronocide Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:47:42pm |
Afghanistan -> Shrimp.
Gotta love the LGF.
I've only had 5/6ths of a 6 pack, so it's not my fault.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:47:43pm |
re: #329 engineer dog
the ebil influence of Big Shrimp on our gubbermint!
Big Shrimp is ripping us off!
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Four More Tears Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:49:04pm |
re: #342 BigPapa
Afghanistan -> Shrimp.
Gotta love the LGF.
I've only had 5/6ths of a 6 pack, so it's not my fault.
It sounds like the rest of us are way ahead of you.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:49:29pm |
re: #341 prairiefire
Sorry, yes, meant for CCA. They have to label shrimp with country of origin in the supermarkets here.
Here, too.
And that's what I'm trying to tell CCA also.
If he's getting boxes of shrimp that are labelled as domestic origin, but they aren't - somebody is breaking a law or two or four somewhere.
Not CCA! But whoever is selling him the shrimp.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:49:29pm |
re: #343 Killgore Trout
Big Shrimp is ripping us off!
And just think of how bad Giant shrimp will be. :D
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TedStriker Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:50:46pm |
re: #346 Dark_Falcon
And just think of how bad Giant shrimp will be. :D
Well, I, for one, welcome our new giant shrimp overlords!
;-P
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:50:53pm |
re: #342 BigPapa
Afghanistan -> Shrimp.
Gotta love the LGF.
I've only had 5/6ths of a 6 pack, so it's not my fault.
Just a huge room; I love that sometimes there are, like, 6 or 7 different conversations going on at once. And if you want, you can just jump in! 'Course, I find personally, I usually make an idiot of myself pretty quickly when I do that without going back, first, to see the origins of the conversation.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:51:16pm |
re: #341 prairiefire
Sorry, yes, meant for CCA. They have to label shrimp with country of origin in the supermarkets here.
That isn't my point. The point is they aren't marking it. They label the food from the USA. But it isn't.
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Ojoe Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:51:36pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:52:25pm |
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Nimed Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:52:31pm |
re: #332 JasonA
Ah. I've spent all the gaming money I can for a while. Bioshock 2 was definitely worth it. I think I'll save my shekels for a 360 now.
That sounds good, if you can handle it. I restrict myself to... Mac. To avoid temptation, mostly -- the games I like the most are all major time suckers.
By the way, you'll probably enjoy this article. It's from the guy who runs Spiderweb -- he makes great points.
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Four More Tears Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:53:39pm |
re: #354 Nimed
That sounds good, if you can handle it. I restrict myself to... Mac. To avoid temptation, mostly -- the games I like the most are all major time suckers.
By the way, you'll probably enjoy this article. It's from the guy who runs Spiderweb -- he makes great points.
So humble!
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:53:57pm |
re: #349 reine.de.tout
Just a huge room; I love that sometimes there are, like, 6 or 7 different conversations going on at once. And if you want, you can just jump in! 'Course, I find personally, I usually make an idiot of myself pretty quickly when I do that without going back, first, to see the origins of the conversation.
well try to combine topics, for instance: how will the oil spill causing an increase in shrimp importation effect our war effort in Afghanistan?
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:54:15pm |
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:54:43pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:54:45pm |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:54:51pm |
re: #357 brookly red
well try to combine topics, for instance: how will the oil spill causing an increase in shrimp importation effect our war effort in Afghanistan?
Brookly - I swear -
You made me laugh out loud.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:54:57pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:56:00pm |
re: #357 brookly red
well try to combine topics, for instance: how will the oil spill causing an increase in shrimp importation effect our war effort in Afghanistan?
Taiwan wold get our shrimp dollars.
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ProMayaLiberal Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:56:03pm |
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Kronocide Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:56:05pm |
re: #357 brookly red
well try to combine topics, for instance: how will the oil spill causing an increase in shrimp importation effect our war effort in Afghanistan?
42. Next....
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freetoken Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:56:13pm |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:56:14pm |
re: #360 Cannadian Club Akbar
Not pink.
Right. The shrimp I had the other day were not pink, they were a paler color than Louisiana shrimp. Those were taiwanese shrimp, right?
I'm gonna check next time and see what they have them labelled as.
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Ojoe Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:56:25pm |
re: #359 Decatur Deb
OTOH, where you live must be a good place to learn to fly, not as much to run into.
BBL
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:56:32pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:57:12pm |
re: #357 brookly red
well try to combine topics, for instance: how will the oil spill causing an increase in shrimp importation effect our war effort in Afghanistan?
Answer: More money going overseas increases the budget deficit, which makes it harder to pay for the war.
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justaminute Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:57:24pm |
Hi everyone, I just have a few minutes to post and have not had much time since my husband has returned from Iran. He said everyone should look at the history of Iraq before Saddam. He said don't forget Sunni Muslim really, really don't like Shiite Muslims. Iraq has both but they don't have the strong armed dictator anymore. The Iraqi 's are not our friends now, otherwise Hillary would not be building her own military to protect the Embassy there. I won' t say anything about Afghanistan until reading the Wiki leaks report and it's probably released in pieces, but some are comparing it to the Pentagon Papers, I think I'll wait and see.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:58:18pm |
re: #368 Ojoe
OTOH, where you live must be a good place to learn to fly, not as much to run into.
BBL
Yeah--that's why we're here, Mother Rucker, Home of Army Aviation.
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prairiefire Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:58:58pm |
Jumbo Tiger Prawns, yum:[Link: woodenspears.com...]
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:59:09pm |
This is killing me... tomorrow for sure I am having shrimp parmigiana w/linguine
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:00:37pm |
re: #373 prairiefire
Yuk. Nothing like Gulf Shrimp.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:00:38pm |
re: #364 ProLifeLiberal
Portal 2 should be coming out soon. I can't wait.
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prairiefire Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:00:38pm |
re: #371 justaminute
Fascinating. Folks here guffawed at me when I posted about Hilary's decision on Friday.
Hoosier made it to OKC. Maybe he will stumble into your joint soon.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:01:05pm |
re: #371 justaminute
Hi everyone, I just have a few minutes to post and have not had much time since my husband has returned from Iran. He said everyone should look at the history of Iraq before Saddam. He said don't forget Sunni Muslim really, really don't like Shiite Muslims. Iraq has both but they don't have the strong armed dictator anymore. The Iraqi 's are not our friends now, otherwise Hillary would not be building her own military to protect the Embassy there. I won' t say anything about Afghanistan until reading the Wiki leaks report and it's probably released in pieces, but some are comparing it to the Pentagon Papers, I think I'll wait and see.
Hey -
I posted some stuff from Tehran Bureau in "Pages", tag Iran, just for you!
I bet you've caught up, now that hubby's home, eh?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:02:07pm |
re: #371 justaminute
And your husband was doing what in Iran?
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Kronocide Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:02:29pm |
As long as we're goin Gulf, there is nothing like gumbo made with real blue crab and sweet potato pie... unless you have Dixie to wash it down.
I hope the Gulf bounces back.
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prairiefire Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:02:35pm |
I like big shrimp and I can not lie...re: #379 Cannadian Club Akbar
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:03:43pm |
re: #375 Cannadian Club Akbar
Yuk. Nothing like Gulf Shrimp.
/I know the concept war for oil is wrong but I can make a good case for taking over Cuba & turning it into a giant shrimp farm... hey we could do this.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:04:55pm |
re: #379 Cannadian Club Akbar
And your husband was doing what in Iran?
she would have to kill you...
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justaminute Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:05:04pm |
re: #377 prairiefire
Fascinating. Folks here guffawed at me when I posted about Hilary's decision on Friday.
Hoosier made it to OKC. Maybe he will stumble into your joint soon.
Hoosier is welcome to come. We are not far from him but I would suggest he go to The Greek House, it's run by a old Greek couple. It's been there since I was in college. It has one thing, gyros, french fries and greek salad. It's probably walking distance from him. He won't be sorry.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:05:11pm |
re: #382 brookly red
/I know the concept war for oil is wrong but I can make a good case for taking over Cuba & turning it into a giant
shrimp farmclassic car parts yard... hey we could do this.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:06:28pm |
re: #387 Leoben Conoy
If I only didn't get gout every damn time I ate this stuff...
oh shit... I am sorry.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:06:31pm |
re: #380 BigPapa
As long as we're goin Gulf, there is nothing like gumbo made with real blue crab and sweet potato pie... unless you have Dixie to wash it down.
I hope the Gulf bounces back.
What does "Dixie" mean in this case?
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webevintage Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:07:03pm |
re: #253 reine.de.tout
I made Tomato Pie today.
Somebody posted the recipe here a day or two ago, and I made it just like they said.Here's what they didn't tell you:
1. REALLY drain those tomatoes, I mean, let the slices sit in the colander for no less than 10 minutes, and THEN pat them all over with a paper towel, then again. Get as much liquid out of the tomato slices as you can (or the diced tomatoes if you're using canned).2. It probably would have been helpful if I had put the pie crust into the oven and let it cook for a bit before I loaded it up with the tomatoes and the mayo/cheddar/mozzarella topping. Pie crust was soggy, and I think if I'd cooked it a bit first, it wouldn't have been.
I'm sorry, that was me and yeah....I do bake my crust 1st and really let the the tomatoes drain.
Forgive me?
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justaminute Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:07:10pm |
re: #379 Cannadian Club Akbar
And your husband was doing what in Iran?
He is from there. His mother has Alzheimer's disease and she is in the last stages of the disease. He went to say goodbye.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:08:09pm |
re: #391 justaminute
He is from there. His mother has Alzheimer's disease and she is in the last stages of the disease. He went to say goodbye.
Sorry to hear that. My bad.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:09:25pm |
re: #382 brookly red
/I know the concept war for oil is wrong but I can make a good case for taking over Cuba & turning it into a giant shrimp farm... hey we could do this.
/No really think about this... nice beaches, rum, cigars, shrimp & lots of other sea food. I would rather invade Cuba then Iran.
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ProMayaLiberal Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:09:55pm |
re: #376 Killgore Trout
Same here. I loved the first Portal. There are few games I wish would get remade though.
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Kronocide Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:09:56pm |
re: #389 Dark_Falcon
What does "Dixie" mean in this case?
Dixie Beer. Or Voodoo Beer.
Actually... any xxxx Beer, it's better. Beer is the liquid version of bacon.
Hey.... bacon beer? Whoah...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:11:21pm |
re: #397 BigPapa
Dixie Beer. Or Voodoo Beer.
Actually... any xxx Beer, it's better. Beer is the liquid version of bacon.
Hey... bacon beer? Whoah...
Don't tell Hoops!!!
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:11:49pm |
re: #397 BigPapa
Dixie Beer. Or Voodoo Beer.
Actually... any xxx Beer, it's better. Beer is the liquid version of bacon.
Hey... bacon beer? Whoah...
may I assume you are not Muslim?
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webevintage Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:11:55pm |
re: #391 justaminute
He is from there. His mother has Alzheimer's disease and she is in the last stages of the disease. He went to say goodbye.
I'm so sorry.
It is a horrible thing to have a someone you love die from.
My husband's father past away a couple of years ago from Alzheimer's and the progression of the disease was just one of the saddest things I have ever experienced.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:12:45pm |
re: #390 webevintage
I'm sorry, that was me and yeah...I do bake my crust 1st and really let the the tomatoes drain.
Forgive me?
hehehe.
of course!
Actually you posted a LINK to the recipe, and that's what I used.
Sorry, I wasn't blaming you; more like my own very poor cooking skills. If I knew what I was doing, I probably would have known all of that to begin with. It's what I'll do next time.
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Stanghazi Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:13:36pm |
re: #391 justaminute
He is from there. His mother has Alzheimer's disease and she is in the last stages of the disease. He went to say goodbye.
Sorry. Sad thing.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:13:38pm |
re: #390 webevintage
I'm sorry, that was me and yeah...I do bake my crust 1st and really let the the tomatoes drain.
Forgive me?
no. you should have made a pizza. infidel.
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ProMayaLiberal Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:14:36pm |
re: #391 justaminute
I'm sorry, it's horrible to have that happen to anyone you love.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:15:24pm |
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:16:10pm |
re: #401 webevintage
I'm so sorry.
It is a horrible thing to have a someone you love die from.
My husband's father past away a couple of years ago from Alzheimer's and the progression of the disease was just one of the saddest things I have ever experienced.
my mother has started to say "help me" after every sentence... I am not sure if it is dementia or prayer...
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webevintage Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:16:34pm |
re: #404 brookly red
no. you should have made a pizza. infidel.
I'm an excellent cook but for some reason I just can't make a good pizzza.
I just can't get my crust thin enough.
It makes me sad.
Very sad.
The other thing I suck at is making a pie with a meringue topping.
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justaminute Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:17:01pm |
re: #378 reine.de.tout
Hey Reine, I caught the pages late at night. I really appreciated it. My husband says all the streets surrounding embassies of other countries are filled with people trying to leave the country. But, I wonder where their going to go and get a job in this economic and political climate. It's sad.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:17:04pm |
re: #391 justaminute
He is from there. His mother has Alzheimer's disease and she is in the last stages of the disease. He went to say goodbye.
(((justaminute)))
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:17:04pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:18:31pm |
re: #409 webevintage
Are ya whipping it enough?
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:18:40pm |
re: #409 webevintage
I'm an excellent cook but for some reason I just can't make a good pizzza.
I just can't get my crust thin enough.
It makes me sad.
Very sad.The other thing I suck at is making a pie with a meringue topping.
OK try baking the crust halfway before adding the sauce & cheese...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:19:42pm |
re: #415 brookly red
OK try baking the crust halfway before adding the sauce & cheese...
add cheese then the sauce.
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austin_blue Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:20:22pm |
Just got back from a showing of Der Golem, a 1920 German silent with a 1997 score for string quartet and Klezmer clarinet. Pretty cool!
Part of the Austin Chamber Music series.
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Kronocide Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:20:48pm |
re: #412 Cannadian Club Akbar
Is that like Polish?
No, they're the Sczcphagettians. I'm more of the Pastafarian diatribe.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:21:17pm |
re: #417 austin_blue
Just got back from a showing of Der Golem, a 1920 German silent with a 1997 score for string quartet and Klezmer clarinet. Pretty cool!
Part of the Austin Chamber Music series.
Does Gov Perry know about this?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:22:21pm |
re: #417 austin_blue
Just got back from a showing of Der Golem, a 1920 German silent with a 1997 score for string quartet and Klezmer clarinet. Pretty cool!
Part of the Austin Chamber Music series.
I just watched a Bruce Willis movie.
//
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webevintage Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:22:47pm |
re: #415 brookly red
OK try baking the crust halfway before adding the sauce & cheese...
But how do you get it thin and make it stay when you roll it out?
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:23:57pm |
re: #416 Cannadian Club Akbar
add cheese then the sauce.
as long as the dough bakes throughly... brushing with olive oil & garlic before the oven is another way. but usually if the pizza is not so good the ove is not hot enough. a real pizza oven cranks up to over 600 degrees & that is hard to do at home.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:24:06pm |
re: #421 webevintage
But how do you get it thin and make it stay when you roll it out?
Roll in on parchment and flour it.
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webevintage Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:24:26pm |
re: #414 Cannadian Club Akbar
Are ya whipping it enough?
yesyesyesyes
It hates me.
Too stiff, not stiff enough then the next time all weepy then hard as a rock.
Bah.
I give up....
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:25:06pm |
re: #417 austin_blue
Just got back from a showing of Der Golem, a 1920 German silent with a 1997 score for string quartet and Klezmer clarinet. Pretty cool!
Part of the Austin Chamber Music series.
Glad you liked it. Any other good silents they've run?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:25:28pm |
re: #424 webevintage
yesyesyesyes
It hates me.
Too stiff, not stiff enough then the next time all weepy then hard as a rock.
Bah.
I give up...
Use a mixer and a cold bowl.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:26:38pm |
wow... see how peaceful this place is when the political activists are on break?
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austin_blue Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:27:05pm |
re: #419 Decatur Deb
Does Gov Perry know about this?
Yes. He is trying to have the Artistic Director deported, despite the fact that she was born here and is a robo-babe.
[Link: news.umhb.edu...]
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Kronocide Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:27:36pm |
re: #421 webevintage
But how do you get it thin and make it stay when you roll it out?
The dough has to be relaxed. You have the make the dough way ahead of time and let it rest, then roll it out. It's best to make it the night before, let it rise, then stretch before cooking. Over stretching or over kneading activates the gluten then it becomes too elastic.
3 years pizza 'chef.' The payoffs keep coming!
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prairiefire Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:27:53pm |
re: #421 webevintage
But how do you get it thin and make it stay when you roll it out?
Can you throw it up and toss it. Maybe the dough needs more kneading.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:27:58pm |
re: #427 brookly red
wow... see how peaceful this place is when the political activists are on break?
Screw you commie!!!
//
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prairiefire Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:28:27pm |
re: #429 BigPapa
The dough has to be relaxed. You have the make the dough way ahead of time and let it rest, then roll it out. It's best to make it the night before, let it rise, then stretch before cooking. Over stretching or over kneading activates the gluten then it becomes too elastic.
3 years pizza 'chef.' The payoffs keep coming!
Favourited.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:29:27pm |
re: #428 austin_blue
Yes. He is trying to have the Artistic Director deported, despite the fact that she was born here and is a robo-babe.
[Link: news.umhb.edu...]
Send her here to 'Bama. No...never mind.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:29:37pm |
re: #429 BigPapa
The dough has to be relaxed. You have the make the dough way ahead of time and let it rest, then roll it out. It's best to make it the night before, let it rise, then stretch before cooking. Over stretching or over kneading activates the gluten then it becomes too elastic.
3 years pizza 'chef.' The payoffs keep coming!
bless you.
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webevintage Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:30:12pm |
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Mich-again Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:31:01pm |
We went to a wedding at some sort of Protestant church this weekend and the Minister spoke of how God chose this bride and groom to become married before they were even born and that drew some shouts of approval from the around the congregation. In other words, it was all predestined. I can't think of anything less Christian than the concept of predestination. If we don't have free will and we're just robots playing the roles God chose for us, then why would there be a heaven or a hell to reward or punish people for the lives they led? Do these ministers even think this stuff through?
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webevintage Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:31:13pm |
re: #429 BigPapa
The dough has to be relaxed. You have the make the dough way ahead of time and let it rest, then roll it out. It's best to make it the night before, let it rise, then stretch before cooking. Over stretching or over kneading activates the gluten then it becomes too elastic.
3 years pizza 'chef.' The payoffs keep coming!
Thank you!
I'm going to make a note on my menu list.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:31:20pm |
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austin_blue Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:31:28pm |
re: #425 Dark_Falcon
Glad you liked it. Any other good silents they've run?
The Paramount runs two or three silents a year with orchestras. We've seen Wings, the original Ben Hur, The Sheik, &c. Fun stuff.
Most people don't realize that talkies helped kill orchestras in the States. In 1926 there were over 1,800 small orchestras in this country. My mom's dad and his brothers all played at the movie theater in Hannibal, Mo.
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Mich-again Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:32:22pm |
You need a pizza oven to make real pizza. The Kenmore won't get it.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:33:17pm |
re: #436 Mich-again
We went to a wedding at some sort of Protestant church this weekend and the Minister spoke of how God chose this bride and groom to become married before they were even born and that drew some shouts of approval from the around the congregation. In other words, it was all predestined. I can't think of anything less Christian than the concept of predestination. If we don't have free will and we're just robots playing the roles God chose for us, then why would there be a heaven or a hell to reward or punish people for the lives they led? Do these ministers even think this stuff through?
Some Protestant sects still go in for that sort of thing. That's how they explain God's being all-knowing and all-powerful.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:33:40pm |
Oh gag. Two skunks are doing the nasty in my backyard.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:33:51pm |
re: #436 Mich-again
He's got about 400 yrs of history behind him. It's what happens when omniscient meets omnipotent.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:34:13pm |
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austin_blue Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:34:16pm |
re: #436 Mich-again
We went to a wedding at some sort of Protestant church this weekend and the Minister spoke of how God chose this bride and groom to become married before they were even born and that drew some shouts of approval from the around the congregation. In other words, it was all predestined. I can't think of anything less Christian than the concept of predestination. If we don't have free will and we're just robots playing the roles God chose for us, then why would there be a heaven or a hell to reward or punish people for the lives they led? Do these ministers even think this stuff through?
No. They don't. Judas was always predestined to betray You Know Who. If he hadn't, where would Christianity be? Non-existent. Circular logic, and totally maddening.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:34:20pm |
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:34:59pm |
re: #392 Leoben Conoy
This username is a sock puppet for "Macker" from the stalker blog. It's amazing how creepy these people can be.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:35:12pm |
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:35:26pm |
Their little happy glands are spraying everywhere. And this is the first night it was cool enough to turn off the AC!
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austin_blue Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:35:56pm |
re: #446 Alouette
Oh gag. Two skunks are doing the nasty in my backyard.
Pray that she doesn't orgasm and cut loose.
Oh, dear. Are into weasal sex now?
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Kronocide Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:36:22pm |
Homemade pasta is a tough dish for a perfectionist. You have to make it a few times before you realize less is more: by kneading and kneading it, you active the gluten and it becomes Plastic Man. It will taste really good but be chewy as hell.
Make your dough (pizza or pasta), knead it a little, then leave it overnight in the fridge. It will be really soft and easy to work with.
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Gus Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:36:25pm |
re: #453 Charles
This username is a sock puppet for "Macker" from the stalker blog. It's amazing how creepy these people can be.
I was suspicious about that one. Thanks for the catch.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:36:45pm |
re: #453 Charles
This username is a sock puppet for "Macker" from the stalker blog. It's amazing how creepy these people can be.
Fairly sophisticated. He came and went on a first visit without antagonism.
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Max Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:37:29pm |
Shocka! Fox News is jumping in on today's self-debunknig outrageous outrage.
Obama administration reportedly backed Lockerbie release over transfer to Libyan prison [Link: fxn.ws...]
All in favor of forcing Rupert Murdoch to strip out the word "news" from Fox News say "Aye."
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:37:50pm |
re: #453 Charles
This username is a sock puppet for "Macker" from the stalker blog. It's amazing how creepy these people can be.
With all due respect Sir, perhaps you could better serve your country by working for Homeland Security and that is not a snark.
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Mich-again Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:38:00pm |
re: #446 Alouette
Oh gag. Two skunks are doing the nasty in my backyard.
After 1,000 failed attempts, Pepe le Pew finally gets the girl..
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Kronocide Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:38:53pm |
re: #446 Alouette
Oh gag. Two skunks are doing the nasty in my backyard.
Are they doing is StinkyStyle? The Olfactory Position? Pray tell.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:38:56pm |
re: #457 BigPapa
Homemade pasta is a tough dish for a perfectionist. You have to make it a few times before you realize less is more: by kneading and kneading it, you active the gluten and it becomes Plastic Man. It will taste really good but be chewy as hell.
Make your dough (pizza or pasta), knead it a little, then leave it overnight in the fridge. It will be really soft and easy to work with.
It also freezes pretty well too. I usually make large batches and then freeze single servings in vacuum bags. Just take one out, let it thaw and then roll out like usual.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:39:37pm |
re: #456 austin_blue
Pray that she doesn't orgasm and cut loose.
Oh, dear. Are into weasal sex now?
shuts mouth, shakes head, gulps beer.
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b_sharp Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:40:06pm |
re: #463 Mich-again
After 1,000 failed attempts, Pepe le Pew finally gets the girl..
Isn't that worded slightly incorrectly? Shouldn't there be a pussy in there somewhere?
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Kronocide Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:40:52pm |
Sock discovered as Lizard witnessed skunk passions?
Whoah!
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austin_blue Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:41:10pm |
re: #461 Max D. Reinhardt
Shocka! Fox News is jumping in on today's self-debunknig outrageous outrage.
All in favor of forcing Rupert Murdoch to strip out the word "news" from Fox News say "Aye."
Aye. Not that it matters. He's making money hand over fist.
“Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.”
H. L. Mencken
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Mich-again Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:41:34pm |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:42:11pm |
re: #417 austin_blue
Just got back from a showing of Der Golem, a 1920 German silent with a 1997 score for string quartet and Klezmer clarinet. Pretty cool!
Part of the Austin Chamber Music series.
Hey, Austin Blue!
The Roi is watching CNBC - he said one of the folks on one of the life boats after the Deepwater exploded, heard the toolpusher make a call to someone, and his end of the conversation was, "Are you happy now? I told you this was gonna happen!" (a few expletives in there that I left out).
Have you heard that?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:42:32pm |
Questions:
Who bought Bison? I sure as fuck didn't.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:43:12pm |
re: #456 austin_blue
Pray that she doesn't orgasm and cut loose.
Oh, dear. Are into weasal sex now?
No that happens when Ice gets to Scotland later this week. ;D
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freetoken Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:43:20pm |
Hehe, put up a Pages about a CO GOP candidate calling birthers "dumbasses." Sooner or later more GOP candidates will have to do likewise, I think. (I hope.)
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:43:32pm |
re: #469 austin_blue
Aye. Not that it matters. He's making money hand over fist.
“Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.”
H. L. Mencken
not true... the joint trying to sell General Taso's Chicken Pizza crashed and burned.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:45:57pm |
re: #453 Charles
This username is a sock puppet for "Macker" from the stalker blog. It's amazing how creepy these people can be.
He seems not be able to let go. From what those guys post, they frequently try to create or use sock puppets. Their desire to stalk LGF seems limitless.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:46:07pm |
re: #455 Alouette
Their little happy glands are spraying everywhere. And this is the first night it was cool enough to turn off the AC!
love stinks...
-J. Giles
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Mich-again Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:46:29pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:46:36pm |
re: #476 ProLifeLiberal
Is there seriously a stalker blog?
I have heard of one but never been there.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:46:59pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:47:19pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:49:06pm |
re: #476 ProLifeLiberal
Is there seriously a stalker blog?
Yes, its called "TheBlogmocracy" and its run by some seriously nasty people who Charles booted from LGF. They hate Charles and anyone prominent on LGF. A nastier bunch of haters you will seldom see.
[waves to the stalkers]
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Gus Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:50:06pm |
re: #479 Mich-again
Yep.. I like to call it Banned Camp.
They say the pony rides are therapeutic.
//
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:50:10pm |
re: #476 ProLifeLiberal
Again, my apologies for today's quotes.
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swamprat Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:51:05pm |
re: #476 ProLifeLiberal
Is there seriously a stalker blog?
No, there are about five. Well, 5 main ones.
They should get a Sam's club card. Hell, they could probably form a credit union.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:51:50pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:52:05pm |
re: #483 Dark_Falcon
LOL!
They can kiss just about anything, with their hate.
It's boundless, blind, and so very, very sick.
Daddy, he hates them!
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:52:33pm |
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austin_blue Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:52:50pm |
re: #471 reine.de.tout
Hey, Austin Blue!
The Roi is watching CNBC - he said one of the folks on one of the life boats after the Deepwater exploded, heard the toolpusher make a call to someone, and his end of the conversation was, "Are you happy now? I told you this was gonna happen!" (a few expletives in there that I left out).
Have you heard that?
Yeah, I have. Pitiful, isn't it? Back in the day, a Toolpusher (for the uninitiated, that is the ranking representative of the rig owner on a drilling rig), would stand down a crew and demand a new Company Man (the Oil Company head man) with half a brain be sent out if he thought things were getting out of hand.
I remember one glorious incident where we conspired to slip some phenolphthaline (commonly used by the Mud Engineer) into the Company Man's coffee because he was running off hands to show how big his dick was.
This resulted in continuous, explosive diarrhea. They took him back to the World in a survival suit to keep him from making the helicopter unusable. The new guy, as one can imagine, was *much* more willing to listen.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:52:54pm |
re: #487 brookly red
No, C or D rating, at best.
If you include animal bestiality.
Hi Possum!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:53:15pm |
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austin_blue Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:53:32pm |
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Gus Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:54:34pm |
Alert Level 1. Stand by for instructions.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:54:36pm |
re: #489 Charles
Yes.
Why do you ask?
Contact! surface, range 14,000, bearing three one five closing at 16 knots...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:54:47pm |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:54:58pm |
re: #490 austin_blue
Yeah, I have. Pitiful, isn't it? Back in the day, a Toolpusher (for the uninitiated, that is the ranking representative of the rig owner on a drilling rig), would stand down a crew and demand a new Company Man (the Oil Company head man) with half a brain be sent out if he thought things were getting out of hand.
I remember one glorious incident where we conspired to slip some phenolphthaline (commonly used by the Mud Engineer) into the Company Man's coffee because he was running off hands to show how big his dick was.
This resulted in continuous, explosive diarrhea. They took him back to the World in a survival suit to keep him from making the helicopter unusable. The new guy, as one can imagine, was *much* more willing to listen.
ROFL. I love that story.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:55:37pm |
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ProMayaLiberal Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:55:50pm |
re: #489 Charles
It seems incredibly immature, and I had hope that people would have better things to do. I didn't believe people would put effort into stalking blogs.
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brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:56:11pm |
re: #492 Cannadian Club Akbar
"Airport" was a "B" movie.
well the inflatable pilot really was not oscar material...
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:56:27pm |
re: #500 ProLifeLiberal
It seems incredibly immature, and I had hope that people would have better things to do. I didn't believe people would put effort into stalking blogs.
Really? Never heard of this kind of thing before?
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:57:27pm |
I hate late-night BBQs. Sits on the stomach 'til noon.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:57:43pm |
re: #496 brookly red
Contact! surface, range 14,000, bearing three one five closing at 16 knots...
Stand by Harpoon battery 1. Load the VLS with Standard Missiles and get the Phalax guns online.
| 506 |
Mich-again Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:57:48pm |
re: #501 brookly red
well the inflatable pilot really was not oscar material...
I think you are confusing Airport with Airplane. Both were comedies, only one intentionally.
| 507 |
Vicious Babushka Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:57:55pm |
re: #464 BigPapa
Are they doing is StinkyStyle? The Olfactory Position? Pray tell.
You think I'm standing out on the porch watching? What kind of perv do you think I am? I'm on the opposite side of the house with all the windows closed!
| 508 |
brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:58:23pm |
re: #506 Mich-again
I think you are confusing Airport with Airplane. Both were comedies, only one intentionally.
you are correct...
| 509 |
webevintage Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:58:28pm |
Night.
Thanks for the help with pizza and my sad meringues.
| 511 |
austin_blue Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:58:46pm |
re: #502 Charles
Really? Never heard of this kind of thing before?
Sighs. Lights coals. Hey, DF, got a carving knife?
| 512 |
Vicious Babushka Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:59:15pm |
re: #483 Dark_Falcon
Yes, its called "TheBlogmocracy" and its run by some seriously nasty people who Charles booted from LGF. They hate Charles and anyone prominent on LGF. A nastier bunch of haters you will seldom see.
[waves to the stalkers]
And two of them are bumping uglies in my backyard right now.
Too back I'm outta buckshot.
| 513 |
ProMayaLiberal Sun, Jul 25, 2010 8:59:15pm |
re: #502 Charles
No, honestly. I've never participated (posted comments) in a blog before.
| 514 |
brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:00:01pm |
re: #511 austin_blue
Sighs. Lights coals. Hey, DF, got a carving knife?
shit... real Q don't need no knife.
| 515 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:00:04pm |
re: #507 Alouette
You think I'm standing out on the porch watching? What kind of perv do you think I am? I'm on the opposite side of the house with all the windows closed!
Maybe the male skunk went with some Tom Jones:
Stink Bomb,
Stink Bomb,
You're my Stink Bomb.
And baby you can turn me on.
| 516 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:00:14pm |
re: #513 ProLifeLiberal
No, honestly. I've never participated (posted comments) in a blog before.
So why here?
| 517 |
Kronocide Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:01:20pm |
re: #507 Alouette
You think I'm standing out on the porch watching? What kind of perv do you think I am? I'm on the opposite side of the house with all the windows closed!
Hey man.. get in touch with your inner Plimpton. With a gas mask of course!
| 519 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:01:51pm |
re: #511 austin_blue
Sighs. Lights coals. Hey, DF, got a carving knife?
Yep. And I've got some Pepsi Throwback too. It's out again for the usual limited time.
| 520 |
prairiefire Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:01:57pm |
re: #509 webevintage
Night.
Thanks for the help with pizza and my sad meringues.
Great name for a band. The Sad Meringues.
| 521 |
austin_blue Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:02:18pm |
re: #513 ProLifeLiberal
No, honestly. I've never participated (posted comments) in a blog before.
Really, before you become a blip in our memory, get your ass up to "My Account" and justify your existence. Click on my nic to see how it's done.
| 522 |
ProMayaLiberal Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:02:37pm |
re: #516 Cannadian Club Akbar
Because I like this blog and the news posts on it. Roughly in the center, and no odd conspiracy theories. And most here seem to be tolerant of difference in opinion as long as it is done respectfully.
| 524 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:02:58pm |
| 525 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:03:07pm |
re: #518 b_sharp
Why are we so suspicious?
Because the Stalkers keep trying to register accounts here so they can downding people they hate, read private Lizard Lounge threads, and spew their hate all over this blog.
| 526 |
brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:03:18pm |
| 527 |
b_sharp Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:03:38pm |
re: #520 prairiefire
Great name for a band. The Sad Meringues.
They can lead off with The Lemon Song in their catalogue.
| 528 |
prairiefire Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:03:39pm |
re: #518 b_sharp
Maybe they've registered before w/ diff info. Charles knows.
| 529 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:03:44pm |
| 530 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:04:18pm |
re: #520 prairiefire
Great name for a band. The Sad Meringues.
Carson McCullers did "Ballad of the Sad Cafe". It was reviewed as "Salad of the Bad Cafe."
| 531 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:04:28pm |
re: #522 ProLifeLiberal
Because I like this blog and the news posts on it. Roughly in the center, and no odd conspiracy theories. And most here seem to be tolerant of difference in opinion as long as it is done respectfully.
I'll give you that.
| 532 |
austin_blue Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:04:35pm |
| 533 |
brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:04:39pm |
re: #522 ProLifeLiberal
Because I like this blog and the news posts on it. Roughly in the center, and no odd conspiracy theories. And most here seem to be tolerant of difference in opinion as long as it is done respectfully.
have we not met before...
| 534 |
swamprat Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:04:51pm |
re: #513 ProLifeLiberal
No, honestly. I've never participated (posted comments) in a blog before.
She told me I was the first. I patted her hand, and told her to relax.
I asked what was wrong, and she said;
"You're the first one!"
Yes. I know, it's ok.
"No, you're the first one who ever believed me!
Got that "reply" feature down pat. You're doin' fine.
| 535 |
Political Atheist Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:05:06pm |
Doctor Who
Best season ender evah!
(I so hope there are fans about)
| 536 |
b_sharp Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:05:42pm |
re: #524 reine.de.tout
I know that reine, I'm asking about this guy in particular.
| 537 |
austin_blue Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:05:55pm |
re: #535 Rightwingconspirator
Doctor Who
Best season ender evah!
(I so hope there are fans about)
How *was* the new guy this year?
| 538 |
avanti Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:06:23pm |
re: #522 ProLifeLiberal
Because I like this blog and the news posts on it. Roughly in the center, and no odd conspiracy theories. And most here seem to be tolerant of difference in opinion as long as it is done respectfully.
Well, all of that is true and you are most welcome to join in. Don't be surprised if we are a bit slow to warm up to newbies, we've had issues.
| 539 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:06:44pm |
re: #536 b_sharp
I know that reine, I'm asking about this guy in particular.
Ah. That, I'm not sure about.
| 540 |
Political Atheist Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:07:17pm |
re: #537 austin_blue
Really good. Amazing how they do that. The continuity despite all the plots going on is astounding.
| 541 |
b_sharp Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:07:22pm |
re: #525 Dark_Falcon
Because the Stalkers keep trying to register accounts here so they can downding people they hate, read private Lizard Lounge threads, and spew their hate all over this blog.
No, no. Why this guy?
What about him smells like a stalker troll?
| 542 |
brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:07:31pm |
re: #536 b_sharp
I know that reine, I'm asking about this guy in particular.
speech patterns mostly...
| 543 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:08:02pm |
| 544 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:08:03pm |
re: #536 b_sharp
Charles & Stinky Beaumont, have the mad skillz. You will see...
| 545 |
Political Atheist Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:08:50pm |
None of us are as Young as we were yesterday but some of us are as Libertarian.
| 546 |
austin_blue Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:08:59pm |
re: #540 Rightwingconspirator
Really good. Amazing how they do that. The continuity despite all the plots going on is astounding.
Well, you know, a Time Lord can do that...
Waiting for the new Torchwood on DVD.
| 547 |
avanti Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:09:23pm |
re: #535 Rightwingconspirator
Doctor Who
Best season ender evah!
(I so hope there are fans about)
The season ender was a classic, just blew me away. Even the wife loved the wedding at the end, she all but stood up a cheered. I did have to explain all the time jumps to her, and she thought they were "silly", but in the end, loved it.
| 548 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:09:42pm |
re: #522 ProLifeLiberal
Up thread you mentioned you like to see some games remade... which ones?
| 549 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:10:06pm |
re: #545 Rightwingconspirator
None of us are as Young as we were yesterday but some of us are as Libertarian.
Good heavens, NOT YL, again!
| 550 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:10:18pm |
Ever get the feeling?
| 551 |
austin_blue Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:10:20pm |
re: #548 Walter L. Newton
Up thread you mentioned you like to see some games remade... which ones?
Da-da-daaaah!
| 552 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:10:45pm |
ProLifeLibearal.... Tell me I should trust you.
| 553 |
brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:10:52pm |
| 556 |
Kronocide Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:11:51pm |
None of you have had a wine named after you. Next best thing to having a stalker blog.
| 557 |
austin_blue Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:12:08pm |
re: #554 Walter L. Newton
?
Do it in a descending musical tone. Classic forties response to a major plot point.
| 558 |
brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:12:25pm |
| 559 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:12:31pm |
| 560 |
avanti Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:12:35pm |
re: #552 Cannadian Club Akbar
ProLifeLibearal... Tell me I should trust you.
Hey, I 'm a pro choice fiscal conservative, so it's possible at least.
| 561 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:12:58pm |
re: #556 BigPapa
You say that, like having a stalker blog, is a good thing.
It's not. FYI.
Sick bunch of creeps.
Making threats.
| 562 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:13:21pm |
| 563 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:13:28pm |
re: #557 austin_blue
Do it in a descending musical tone. Classic forties response to a major plot point.
Okay... I thought I was pissing someone off, and I just got here... I didn't even have time to warm up... I gotcha...
| 565 |
brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:14:04pm |
re: #560 avanti
Hey, I 'm a pro choice fiscal conservative, so it's possible at least.
fiscal conservative? keep dreaming :)
| 566 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:15:26pm |
| 567 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:15:49pm |
re: #558 brookly red
/but I did not shoot the Deputy ...
I'm kind of surprised by that. Badass New Yorker that you are, I'd think you'd just wipe out the whole sheriff's department.
/entirely kidding
| 568 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:16:07pm |
re: #396 ProLifeLiberal
Same here. I loved the first Portal. There are few games I wish would get remade though.
Working on that list of games for me?
| 569 |
prairiefire Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:16:30pm |
| 570 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:16:50pm |
re: #567 Dark_Falcon
With a Hello Kitty, AK47?
LOL!
| 571 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:17:05pm |
| 572 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:17:18pm |
re: #561 Floral Giraffe
You say that, like having a stalker blog, is a good thing.
It's not. FYI.
Sick bunch of creeps.
Making threats.
It was very hard for them to cope with the S&M session you and Ludwig had. :D
| 573 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:17:28pm |
re: #568 Walter L. Newton
Hey, I hope you are well?
Haven't been on LGF with you for a while!
| 574 |
austin_blue Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:17:37pm |
re: #563 Walter L. Newton
Okay... I thought I was pissing someone off, and I just got here... I didn't even have time to warm up... I gotcha...
Hey, Walter, I took my one swipe at you a *long* time ago. I apologized and it won't happen again.
| 575 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:18:03pm |
| 576 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:18:05pm |
re: #572 Dark_Falcon
It was very hard for them to cope with the S&M session you and Ludwig had. :D
Lightly taps DF with the riding crop.
| 577 |
Kronocide Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:18:22pm |
re: #561 Floral Giraffe
You say that, like having a stalker blog, is a good thing.
It's not. FYI.
Sick bunch of creeps.
Making threats.
It's not a good thing. Especially for them.
It's a joke. You don't have to laugh or think it's funny if you don't feel like it.
| 578 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:18:27pm |
re: #574 austin_blue
Hey, Walter, I took my one swipe at you a *long* time ago. I apologized and it won't happen again.
No... no... I wasn't thinking you were taking a swipe at me at all... I was just a bit confused at what you meant... really, no problem.
| 579 |
brookly red Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:18:49pm |
re: #567 Dark_Falcon
I'm kind of surprised by that. Badass New Yorker that you are, I'd think you'd just wipe out the whole sheriff's department.
/entirely kidding
are you f'n nuts ... have you not noticed the handy work of our LEOs... look they are slow to anger but if they shoot 40-50 shots is standard.
| 580 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:19:31pm |
re: #577 BigPapa
No, you have to be a target for them, to really appreciate the sickness.
I don't think you "get it".
| 581 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:19:40pm |
re: #556 BigPapa
None of you have had a wine named after you. Next best thing to having a stalker blog.
cool!
| 582 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:20:08pm |
re: #573 Floral Giraffe
Hey, I hope you are well?
Haven't been on LGF with you for a while!
I've been busy with some programming for my only client Kaiser, and had to work overnights at the supermarket last week so the regular overnight clerk could have a vacation, and doing some summer type family things when I can... I've been here, off and on.
| 583 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:20:19pm |
re: #579 brookly red
are you f'n nuts ... have you not noticed the handy work of our LEOs... look they are slow to anger but if they shoot 40-50 shots is standard.
Nope, I was only kidding.
| 584 |
ProMayaLiberal Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:20:23pm |
re: #548 Walter L. Newton
Final Fantasies 7 and 8 are the two big ones. I love Medieval 2 as well, and wish they would update the graphics engine for it. Sorry it took so long to respond. I put a small description on myself in the My Account section.
| 585 |
prairiefire Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:20:25pm |
re: #556 BigPapa
I would like to try that wine. It sounds good.
| 586 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:21:13pm |
| 588 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:25:32pm |
re: #587 prairiefire
And, you preference is?
We can accomodate you!
LOL!
| 589 |
prairiefire Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:26:29pm |
re: #588 Floral Giraffe
And, you preference is?
We can accomodate you!
LOL!
Sweetie, he is snoring away, suffering from a back ache. Such is life!
| 590 |
avanti Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:26:38pm |
re: #565 brookly red
fiscal conservative? keep dreaming :)
Well, not as conservative as you perhaps, but more Clinton like. I don't mind some extensions of government power, I just like it paid for. i.e. health care reform, financial regulation.
| 591 |
austin_blue Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:27:06pm |
re: #584 ProLifeLiberal
Final Fantasies 7 and 8 are the two big ones. I love Medieval 2 as well, and wish they would update the graphics engine for it. Sorry it took so long to respond. I put a small description on myself in the My Account section.
Oh, jeez, a frickin' Sooner.
So.
Gay marriage, civil unions, or get your ass back in the closet?
Progressive income tax or flat tax?
Payroll taxes or income taxes?
How do feel about the health care bill?
Do you believe that human combustion of hydrocarbons can affect the climate?
Do you believe that your genes contain monkey DNA?
| 592 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:29:46pm |
I'm not waiting up for a bit of gamey buttock. 'Nite, all.
| 593 |
b_sharp Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:36:11pm |
re: #591 austin_blue
Gay marriage, civil unions, or get your ass back in the closet?
Church, court, back yard or even a closet, wherever they want to get married.
Progressive income tax or flat tax?
Progressive flat tax.
Payroll taxes or income taxes?
Income tax? What's that?
How do feel about the health care bill?
As a Canadian I support everybody's right to get sick.
Do you believe that human combustion of hydrocarbons can affect the climate?
Spontaneous human combustion sure heats the house up.
Do you believe that your genes contain monkey DNA?
I'll share my genes with anybody, I'm not proud.
| 594 |
ProMayaLiberal Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:39:39pm |
re: #591 austin_blue
Pro-Gay Marriage
Progressive Income Tax
Combination of Both
Health Care bill sould have been better but it's a start.
Anthropogenic Global Warming exists with significant natural influence
I believe in Theistic Evolution.
I'm sorry my responses are taking so long. My internet connection is horrible.
| 595 |
austin_blue Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:42:56pm |
re: #594 ProLifeLiberal
Pro-Gay Marriage
Progressive Income Tax
Combination of Both
Health Care bill sould have been better but it's a start.
Anthropogenic Global Warming exists with significant natural influence
I believe in Theistic Evolution.I'm sorry my responses are taking so long. My internet connection is horrible.
I understand. A 2400-baud modem is a pain in the ass. Oh wait, you play on-line games?
| 596 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:43:06pm |
re: #594 ProLifeLiberal
Pro-Gay Marriage
Progressive Income Tax
Combination of Both
Health Care bill sould have been better but it's a start.
Anthropogenic Global Warming exists with significant natural influence
I believe in Theistic Evolution.I'm sorry my responses are taking so long. My internet connection is horrible.
All of those are well within sane limits. Welcome! Sorry we can be somewhat suspicious, but we get stalked here.
| 597 |
b_sharp Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:43:43pm |
re: #594 ProLifeLiberal
Anthropogenic Global Warming exists with significant natural influence
Oh, oh.
| 598 |
ProMayaLiberal Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:49:56pm |
| 600 |
ProMayaLiberal Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:55:54pm |
re: #599 b_sharp
I research my positions, then decide. Humans have burned an staggering amount CO2 rich fuel, resulting in a spike on top of an underlying pattern. The graph shows humans to be responsible for well over half of the problem.
| 601 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:03:05pm |
re: #584 ProLifeLiberal
Final Fantasies 7 and 8 are the two big ones. I love Medieval 2 as well, and wish they would update the graphics engine for it. Sorry it took so long to respond. I put a small description on myself in the My Account section.
Ugh, man, FF7 and 8 never grabbed me, JRPG repetition forever, everything's totally on rails, no solid combat design, just esoteric mumbojumbo masquerading as depth. The only JRPG I care about is Panzer Dragoon Saga, it worked within the JRPG limitations and did it well, it didn't force a bunch of mindless combat to draw out the experience cheaply
JRPGS aren't really RPGS, they're adventure games. it's a bunch of minigames glued to flashy art assets and a story. Fallout is an RPG. Torment is an RPG. Ultima 4 is an RPG. Oblivion is an RPG.
They should remake Autoduel, and they've already granted my wish in remaking X-Com. I wouldn't mind seeing a remake of Return of Heracles, but I'm not holding my breath,
| 602 |
ProMayaLiberal Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:06:59pm |
re: #601 WindUpBird
To each his own tastes. I tend to like JRPGs and strategy games of various sorts. But I personally prefer FF8 to FF7.
| 603 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:10:30pm |
re: #602 ProLifeLiberal
To each his own tastes. I tend to like JRPGs and strategy games of various sorts. But I personally prefer FF8 to FF7.
Strategy games meaning tactical J-stuff like Ogre Battle and Disgaea? Or grand strategy like Europa Universalis and Hearts of Iron? Or strategy games meaning classic western RTS like Starcraft, Dark Reign, Dune 2, CnC, Red Alert...
If you're into JRPGs, you owe it to yourself to play Panzer Dragoon Saga and Persona 3 and 4. Those Square FF games are so sugary they'll give you diabetic shock ;-)
| 604 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:12:40pm |
re: #602 ProLifeLiberal
Personally, as far as strategy goes, I think Introversion's Defcon is pretty awesome:
It's got that WarGames wireframe look to it, retrofuture, great stuff
| 605 |
Max Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:16:26pm |
Unbelievable. Pajamas Media wingnut, Alfonzo Rachel is actually defending Breitbart's deceptive, despicable smear against Shirley Sherrod. And he actually says that the video, even though it was edited and taken out of context, proves that she is a racist.
| 606 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:18:49pm |
re: #605 Max D. Reinhardt
No honor, no truth, no nothing, just mindless bullshit from those guys, rank and fetid racism
And the apex of the douche pyramid is Breitbart himself, stroking his pseudobeard
| 607 |
ProMayaLiberal Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:18:55pm |
re: #603 WindUpBird
Strategy games like Medieval 2: Total War, and Empire: Total War. I might get one that focuses more on political expansion ideas. And the sugary stuff Square produces helps me escape from the Autism, if only for a while. There is a game on Steam that I've heard is alot of fun that involves you being able to play through the music on your computer as levels. Unfortunately, I can't remember its name.
| 608 |
austin_blue Sun, Jul 25, 2010 10:30:45pm |
re: #594 ProLifeLiberal
Pro-Gay Marriage
Progressive Income Tax
Combination of Both
Health Care bill sould have been better but it's a start.
Anthropogenic Global Warming exists with significant natural influence
I believe in Theistic Evolution.I'm sorry my responses are taking so long. My internet connection is horrible.
Okley dokley, then.
I'm still suspect because you are a self-claimed Sooner.
;-)
| 609 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Jul 25, 2010 11:26:44pm |
re: #446 Alouette
Oh gag. Two skunks are doing the nasty in my backyard.
Where do you think we get little skunks from?
| 610 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jul 26, 2010 3:47:44am |
re: #607 ProLifeLiberal
Strategy games like Medieval 2: Total War, and Empire: Total War. I might get one that focuses more on political expansion ideas. And the sugary stuff Square produces helps me escape from the Autism, if only for a while. There is a game on Steam that I've heard is alot of fun that involves you being able to play through the music on your computer as levels. Unfortunately, I can't remember its name.
That would be Audiosurf
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