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He sure has trouble taking responsibility for his own actions. I thought conservatives were all about personal responsibility, or does that only apply to everyone else?
He sure has trouble taking responsibility for his own actions. I thought conservatives were all about personal responsibility, or does that only apply to everyone else?
That applies to sane people. AB is not stable or sane.
Um, Andrew? It's really not a good idea to parade your paranoia around like that. Gibbering your delusions in public like that can get you committed promoted.
He sure has trouble taking responsibility for his own actions. I thought conservatives were all about personal responsibility, or does that only apply to everyone else?
conservative, my ass...he's another fraud with some juice, but a fake nevertheless
He sure has trouble taking responsibility for his own actions. I thought conservatives were all about personal responsibility, or does that only apply to everyone else?
'Personal responsibility' is a shame tactic the wingnuts use to silence and demonize people who dissent from their views. It works far too often.
Breitbart will play this to the hilt. It's all part and parcel of his attempt to take out the left by hook or crook. He'll play martyr and claim persecution even though he's the one who destroyed Sherrod with a video that was heavily edited and continues to deflect responsibility for his shameful conduct on others.
Breitbart will play this to the hilt. It's all part and parcel of his attempt to take out the left by hook or crook. He'll play martyr and claim persecution even though he's the one who failed miserably to destroyed Sherrod with a video that was heavily edited and continues to deflect responsibility for his shameful conduct on others.
After seeing the video on Charles' Jon Stewart thread, it amazes me that the right is still pushing the Shirley Sherrod is a bigot angle. The woman clearly used the story to illustrate the lessons we can learn from our prejudices but because Breitbart and his friends have a raging hate on for the NAACP, the show must go on and Sherrod must be demonized at all costs. It's just pathetic as hell and the increasing reactionaryism within the modern conservative movement is troubling to say the least.
no, he's going on the View to gab with his base...fuck the Boy Scouts
Is there any event Obama can miss and not be criticized ? The Boy Scout event is usually visited once by the POTUS in his term, so he has two to six years to make it.
I really don't think Obama gives a rat's ass about Breitbart, except as a momentary annoyance, like a fly buzzing around your head.
Obama loves Breitbart. Every liberal in the country loves Breitbart. Entire publicity campaigns are now being built around him and his predictable reactions.
Is there any event Obama can miss and not be criticized ? The Boy Scout event is usually visited once by the POTUS in his term, so he has two to six years to make it.
George W. Bush went to the Boy Scout Jamboree twice a month for the entire time he was in office.
Is there any event Obama can miss and not be criticized ? The Boy Scout event is usually visited once by the POTUS in his term, so he has two to six years to make it.
it's a once every four year event...it's their 100th anniversary...shove your excuses, the View is more important, just say it
Latest Fox fake story just now: "Tax payers to help BP pay for the spill"
Translation: BP will write off the billions in losses from their profits when paying US taxes as the tax code provides.
If Obama did show up at a Boy Scout event, the same people who are now whining that he's dissed the Scouts would be wanting to protect the poor young fellas from possible contamination with (shudder!) socialist cooties.
Latest Fox fake story just now: "Tax payers to help BP pay for the spill"
Translation: BP will write off the billions in losses from their profits when paying US taxes as the tax code provides.
Hmmm... attend an event where he can be embroiled in controversy over views about atheists and homosexuals -or- attend an interview on a show that is likely sympathetic to his politics and has a worldwide audience yet risk controversy over lack of support for a traditional American institution?
Politically speaking this is a no win.
...I see the problem and I am an active Boy Scout leader and dad.
If Obama did show up at a Boy Scout event, the same people who are now whining that he's dissed the Scouts would be wanting to protect the poor young fellas from possible contamination with (shudder!) socialist cooties.
Or as I see it. Even if he did show up in person they'd still find something to whine about.
no, he's going on the View to gab with his base...fuck the Boy Scouts
The White House let the Scouts know the President wouldn't be attending two months ago, long before he was scheduled to appear on The View. He has had numerous Oval Office visits with the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts, most recently meeting with a scouting delegation on the 12th. He will be addressing the Boy Scout jamboree by pre-recorded video.
Hmmm... attend an event where he can be embroiled in controversy over views about atheists and homosexuals -or- attend an interview on a show that is likely sympathetic to his politics and has a worldwide audience yet risk controversy over lack of support for a traditional American institution?
Politically speaking this is a no win.
...I see the problem and I am an active Boy Scout leader and dad.
Yep, same for Bush. What would be the political upside of going to the NAACP event when you've already lost the minority vote.
The White House let the Scouts know the President wouldn't be attending two months ago, long before he was scheduled to appear on The View. He has had numerous Oval Office visits with the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts, most recently meeting with a scouting delegation on the 12th. He will be addressing the Boy Scout jamboree by pre-recorded video.
Ooops, I copied the link to the article the cnsnews.com outrage spung from, not my LGF Page. Here's the correct link :P:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Honestly I suppose the kids at the Jamboree will be disappointed, but Obama has recognized the 100th anniversary at other events.
This wasn't even on my radar screen until this thread.
Executives don't really have much control over their own schedules. As bad as it is with the Governor of a state (I work with our schedulers office often) I cannot imagine how much of a nightmare scheduling the POTUS would be!
France has declared war on al-Qaida, and matched its fighting words with a first attack on a base camp of the terror network's North African branch, after the terror network killed a French aid worker it took hostage in April.
The declaration and attack marked a shift in strategy for France, usually discrete about its behind-the-scenes battle against terrorism.
"We are at war with al-Qaida," Prime Minister Francois Fillon said Tuesday, a day after President Nicolas Sarkozy announced the death of 78-year-old hostage Michel Germaneau.
The humanitarian worker had been abducted April 20 or 22 in Niger by al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb, and was later taken to Mali, officials said.
I am.
I don't give a flying fuck if the President goes to the Boy Scout Jamboree.
I don't care about the Boy Scouts for the most part.
I don't really like apple pie that much either.
I don't eat yellow mustard on my hot dogs and I drink tea ever morning instead of coffee.
He sure has trouble taking responsibility for his own actions. I thought conservatives were all about personal responsibility, or does that only apply to everyone else?
Some of us still believe it.
Seems we're a smaller group every day, though.
Honestly I suppose the kids at the Jamboree will be disappointed, but Obama has recognized the 100th anniversary at other events.
This wasn't even on my radar screen until this thread.
Executives don't really have much control over their own schedules. As bad as it is with the Governor of a state (I work with our schedulers office often) I cannot imagine how much of a nightmare scheduling the POTUS would be!
They might be disappointed, although honestly, I expect for the kids the highlights of the event probably won't be a speech from the President. It would have been a nice gesture for him to be there, and it seems to me like he could be on the View any time.
Scheduling--yes. I once scheduled a rabbi, and that was bad enough. (Of course, that was mostly the rabbi's own fault...)
I am.
I don't give a flying fuck if the President goes to the Boy Scout Jamboree.
I don't care about the Boy Scouts for the most part.
I don't really like apple pie that much either.
I don't eat yellow mustard on my hot dogs and I drink tea ever morning instead of coffee.
I am.
I don't give a flying fuck if the President goes to the Boy Scout Jamboree.
I don't care about the Boy Scouts for the most part.
I don't really like apple pie that much either.
I don't eat yellow mustard on my hot dogs and I drink tea ever morning instead of coffee.
On the other hand I love kit-lers.
kit-lers? Is that safe to Google?
The apple pie thing gives me cause to worry. Perhaps a call into Homeland Security is in order. /
nah, doesn't matter. Obama could pull out a gun and start shooting people and people would come to his rescue when he got criticized.
But instead people are concern trolling about Obama not attending a scout jamboree. When we point out that this is remarkably reminiscent of ODS, we get accused of RODS.
In other words, there is no outrage to be had here, but that isn't stopping wingnut trolls from being morons.
I am.
I don't give a flying fuck if the President goes to the Boy Scout Jamboree.
I don't care about the Boy Scouts for the most part.
I don't really like apple pie that much either.
I don't eat yellow mustard on my hot dogs and I drink tea ever morning instead of coffee.
On the other hand I love kit-lers.
My husband is an Eagle Scout...which is as much attention as I normally pay to the Boy Scouts of America.
I don't like pie, really. I like pie crust.
I love French's yellow mustard on hot dogs.
And coffee.
I maintain that 'kit-lers' should be called Chaplincats.
They might be disappointed, although honestly, I expect for the kids the highlights of the event probably won't be a speech from the President. It would have been a nice gesture for him to be there, and it seems to me like he could be on the View any time.
Scheduling--yes. I once scheduled a rabbi, and that was bad enough. (Of course, that was mostly the rabbi's own fault...)
Considering the reoccurring dust ups between the scouts and the issue of gay scouts... I don't think it would be smart for the President to seen to offer support for that group.
Considering the reoccurring dust ups between the scouts and the issue of gay scouts... I don't think it would be smart for the President to seen to offer support for that group.
Hey, what's good for the goose is good for the gander:
It's not about you, Breitbart! It's about the racism inherent in your pathetic racist, homophobic, hateful movement! I'm real, real, sorry that you're getting shit in your face but we didn't ask for that, Breitbart. You're just a casualty of war, man. Again, it's not about you, man.
Save your time. Instead of posting lame outrages, just the occasional, "I hate the bastard" would remind newbies of what the rest of us already know. Nothing he does will ever please you, we get it.
France has declared war on al-Qaida, and matched its fighting words with a first attack on a base camp of the terror network's North African branch, after the terror network killed a French aid worker it took hostage in April.
The declaration and attack marked a shift in strategy for France, usually discrete about its behind-the-scenes battle against terrorism.
But instead people are concern trolling about Obama not attending a scout jamboree. When we point out that this is remarkably reminiscent of ODS, we get accused of RODS.
In other words, there is no outrage to be had here, but that isn't stopping wingnut trolls from being morons.
wrong...one person made one comment...already concern trolling means nothing except to those that belch it out every thread
Fascinating. Almost as much as your wild comparison of Obama not attending this BS event and its subsequent response to that of the president going on a wild shooting rampage its imaginary response.
You know The Furher kind of ruined that 1930s little moustache thing for everyone. /
Yeah, there's this weird online thing about white cats with teeny black mustache markings, and sometimes head markings that look like slicked-to-the-side hair.
It's a weirdly adorable look, and as I say, I insist that they look like Chaplin, rather than Hitler.
Wonder if my ES will want any sons we might have to go into scouting. He himself says he doesn't want to troop lead or otherwise be involved as an adult until they admit gay scouts and scout leaders.
Fascinating. Almost as much as your wild comparison of Obama not attending this BS event and its subsequent response to that of the president going on a wild shooting rampage its imaginary response.
I would certainly hope that you're smart enough to see that I wasn't comparing those two. Either way, you're either stupid or dishonest. You pick.
I was kicked out of the Cub Scouts for eating a Brownie./
One of my college friends was kicked out of the Rainbow Girls for having sex with a DeMolay boy. On the altar of a church they were having a joint event at.
He was not kicked out of DeMolay.
My father, OTOH, was never allowed into DeMolay, although his father was a Mason of many years' standing, because they didn't allow Catholics back then.
Why not criticize him on real screw ups, there are plenty of real ones we can discuss.
I have taken issue with the President on some decisions (most notably the moratorium. I have an issue with that decision based on my viewpoint and the information I know to be true.
People here who believe the moratorium necessary have defended the decision on its merits; not because it's an Obama decision.
What you're talking about can be done.
But not if everybody gets all emotional.
Wonder if my ES will want any sons we might have to go into scouting. He himself says he doesn't want to troop lead or otherwise be involved as an adult until they admit gay scouts and scout leaders.
It is a very tough call. I can see his POV. I also see a lot of good in the organization that I cannot give up for disagreement with one or two policy points. I ran out of idealogically pure organizations to belong to a long time ago.
being called a bigot and racist didn't phase me...wingnut is pretty weak by those standards...invent something original
I don't think Steve is a wing nut, he's just way more unhappy with Obama than I was with Bush. Since I was pretty unhappy for eight years of Bush, I can feel his pain.
So, what exactly is Breitbart's reputation, anyway?
I see him as a snarling, sneering, combative asshole who relishes his assholery, wants to destroy Sinistro-Americans, and will stoop to anything to accomplish that mission, including destroying the careers of hundreds of innocent people. And when called on it, he will never, ever apologize.
Is he trying to say that he wants to be seen as a fluffy kitteh?
You used it to make a wild accusation about people here.
Ok, how about this. There are people everywhere, and unfortunately yes here, who will come to Obama's rescue even when he does things that are clearly questionable. Allow me to extend my most abject apologies to you if my hyperbole about Obama offended your sensibilities. I hope you can recover.
It is a very tough call. I can see his POV. I also see a lot of good in the organization that I cannot give up for disagreement with one or two policy points. I ran out of idealogically pure organizations to belong to a long time ago.
He's very proud of his scouting past, and keeps all the badges and such. I think his disappointment about the gay thing stems from the fact that he had a troop leader who was gay, and whom he greatly respected. Dunno. Be interesting to see what he says when our hypothetical little one is old enough.
So, what are "Rainbow Girls" and where do I find one?
/
Organization for the daughters of Masons. You become either a Rainbow Girl or a Job's Daughter, and stay with them until you quit, marry or turn twenty. In the last two cases you can transfer to Eastern Star, which is the Masonic equivalent of the Ladies' Auxiliary.
Ok, how about this. There are people everywhere, and unfortunately yes here, who will come to Obama's rescue even when he does things that are clearly questionable. Allow me to extend my most abject apologies to you if my hyperbole about Obama offended your sensibilities. I hope you can recover.
You have that wrong Cliffster. My objection isn't regarding "hyperbole about Obama" but about hyperbole about the people here. You made a wild accusation.
Ok, how about this. There are people everywhere, and unfortunately yes here, who will come to Obama's rescue even when he does things that are clearly questionable. Allow me to extend my most abject apologies to you if my hyperbole about Obama offended your sensibilities. I hope you can recover.
So, you are implying that Obama not attending a boy scout event is "clearly questionable"?
In logic, an argument is a set of one or more meaningful declarative sentences (or "propositions") known as the premises along with another meaningful declarative sentence (or "proposition") known as the conclusion. A deductive argument asserts that the truth of the conclusion is a logical consequence of the premises; an inductive argument asserts that the truth of the conclusion is supported by the premises. Deductive arguments are valid or invalid, and sound or not sound. An argument is valid if and only if the truth of the conclusion is a logical consequence of the premises and (consequently) its corresponding conditional is a necessary truth. A sound argument is a valid argument with true premises.
I don't think Steve is a wing nut, he's just way more unhappy with Obama than I was with Bush. Since I was pretty unhappy for eight years of Bush, I can feel his pain.
Steve isn't a wingnut, (i think) he's someone who pissed off that his "side" is unable to beat what should otherwise be a pretty attackable pres. In some ways he's the anti-wingnut. Seriously, Obama has done fucked up good a few times, and all the major right wing publicans can see seem to talk about are these stupid mini-outrages. So when Obama really just gets a pass on things like health care and immigration because the right is too busy screaming about the NAACP, I think steve gets cranky.
You have that wrong Cliffster. My objection isn't regarding "hyperbole about Obama" but about hyperbole about the people here. You made a wild accusation.
You have that wrong Cliffster. My objection isn't regarding "hyperbole about Obama" but about hyperbole about the people here. You made a wild accusation.
People everywhere, including here, irrationally defend Obama no matter what he does. It's painful, but alas, there it is.
Steve isn't a wingnut, (i think) he's someone who pissed off that his "side" is unable to beat what should otherwise be a pretty attackable pres. In some ways he's the anti-wingnut. Seriously, Obama has done fucked up good a few times, and all the major right wing publicans can see seem to talk about are these stupid mini-outrages. So when Obama really just gets a pass on things like health care and immigration because the right is too busy screaming about the NAACP, I think steve gets cranky.
Now watch him yell at you for making assumptions about what's really going on in his head...
One of my college friends was kicked out of the Rainbow Girls for having sex with a DeMolay boy. On the altar of a church they were having a joint event at.
He was not kicked out of DeMolay.
My father, OTOH, was never allowed into DeMolay, although his father was a Mason of many years' standing, because they didn't allow Catholics back then.
On the church altar ? Impressive. The worse I've done was pick up the "good" girls being dropped off at a Methodist Youth dance and taking them to watch the submarine races on the river from the back seat of my car.
Did you know that the existence of one of the fifty states of the union is a fiction invented by the Trilateral Commission for it's own nefarious purposes?
Steve isn't a wingnut, (i think) he's someone who pissed off that his "side" is unable to beat what should otherwise be a pretty attackable pres. In some ways he's the anti-wingnut. Seriously, Obama has done fucked up good a few times, and all the major right wing publicans can see seem to talk about are these stupid mini-outrages. So when Obama really just gets a pass on things like health care and immigration because the right is too busy screaming about the NAACP, I think steve gets cranky.
I have no sides...my posting history clearly reflects that...I'm a conservative and I sure don't like BO the hack...he's just another elected bust and I see no outrage in not visiting the BSs...it's an opinion reflecting his self centered habits...the View is more important to him and I'm the least surprised...this manufactured outrage you propose is already way old
Did you know that the existence of one of the fifty states of the union is a fiction invented by the Trilateral Commission for it's own nefarious purposes?
My dad writes left-handed but shoots right-handed.
I write, shoot, and fence left-handed.
Being a left-handed swordsman is a distinct advantage. We come up against almost nothing but right-handers our whole lives, and they do too. When they find themselves looking in the mirror, as it were, it seriously screws with their minds.
Andy is just spouting the popular victimization speech we hear from every right winger thats said something outrageous in the news lately. They give each other merit badges for being so unfairly attacked by their barbaric foes. Andy is putting out the word that he expects recognition for his victim badge, Now.
Meanwhile, earlier this week, michelle bachman claimed the title of "the #1 target of the left", all for herself. Will andy and michelle want to mud wrassle for that honored distinction?
Where is ann coulter hiding out these days???
All of my Sunday suits had booger epaulettes for years.
OMG.
I know whatcha mean.
One day I got off worked, picked up the daughter, and stopped at the grocery store. I was wearing one of those wrap skirts that tie at the waist.
So I leave the store, pushing the cart with one hand and carrying her with the other arm. She was a very active kid. She moved constantly. I see these two men walking toward me with their eyes wide as saucers.
The damned tie on the skirt had come undone, and it had practically fallen all the way off - my entire front side was completely exposed. I didn't even realize it!
These are the fun things your kids to do embarrass you. It's why I found it so very satisfying to be a complete embarrassment to her when she hit her teens.
Dick Cheney shot that guy by accident. I defended him.
Drinking a beer and going hunting is pretty stupid though, especially for those of us taking beta blockers and ace inhibitors. Also, shooting a guy in the face by accident is really the kind of move you'd expect from Biden.
I have no sides...my posting history clearly reflects that...I'm a conservative and I sure don't like BO the hack...he's just another elected bust and I see no outrage in not visiting the BSs...it's an opinion reflecting his self centered habits...the View is more important to him and I'm the least surprised...this manufactured outrage you propose is already way old
Sorry, all I meant by "side" was you have conservative views. You've also told me that the major conservative party, the GOP doesn't reflect your views/represent you. Fair enough?
Your views on Obama are entirely your own, I won't call you crazy for them. You put different weight on different shit than me. So be it. I wouldn't speak at the Boy Scout Jamboree if I was Pres either, so obviously that's not going to bug me. I think him going on the View is tacky and transparent as hell, but that's separate.
Being a left-handed swordsman is a distinct advantage. We come up against almost nothing but right-handers our whole lives, and they do too. When they find themselves looking in the mirror, as it were, it seriously screws with their minds.
I fenced left-handed in college. The really funny part, as you may have noticed, is when you come up against another lefty.
Nadal is right-handed but plays tennis left-handed. Thus the epic backhand...
Really? Makes sense.. that's pretty cool. He has one other thing in common with Phil - he'll always wonder, "how much more badass could my record be if I hadn't been paired in history with this freak?" (Federer, Tiger)
Newsflash for Breitbart: I don't think President Obama gives a shit about you one way or the other. But nice try at elevating yourself to the same level as the POTUS. Go back on vacation into hiding, fucktard.
That's when I usually just pulled out my gun... really funny part.
Dave Chappelle comments that he's never bought the moment in Crocodile Dundee where he pulls out his blade, "This is a knife!" and the hood runs. As Dave explains, that's the point where any dude in NYC responds, "Well, this is a gun."
Dave Chappelle comments that he's never bought the moment in Crocodile Dundee where he pulls out his blade, "This is a knife!" and the hood runs. As Dave explains, that's the point where any dude in NYC responds, "Well, this is a gun."
Sorry, all I meant by "side" was you have conservative views. You've also told me that the major conservative party, the GOP doesn't reflect your views/represent you. Fair enough?
Your views on Obama are entirely your own, I won't call you crazy for them. You put different weight on different shit than me. So be it. I wouldn't speak at the Boy Scout Jamboree if I was Pres either, so obviously that's not going to bug me. I think him going on the View is tacky and transparent as hell, but that's separate.
fair enough...I have no love for the GOP, never have...I have a natural aversion to all elected hoodlums, party has little to do with it
So, what exactly is Breitbart's reputation, anyway?
I'm honestly surprised the media treats him like something other than an immature, spoiled, petulant child, who impulsively acts on emotions.
Maybe i'm missing something they know?
Brietbart needs to keep his conspiracies to himself. Otherwise someone rich and powerful will use Andrew's apparent and convenient suicide as another Vince Foster to plague the Administration for the next six years. Heh.
Dave Chappelle comments that he's never bought the moment in Crocodile Dundee where he pulls out his blade, "This is a knife!" and the hood runs. As Dave explains, that's the point where any dude in NYC responds, "Well, this is a gun."
P.S. It's Delaware (that was a freebie, but don't tell anyone, I'll get in trouble).
Newsflash for Breitbart: I don't think President Obama gives a shit about you one way or the other. But nice try at elevating yourself to the same level as the POTUS. Go back on vacation into hiding, fucktard.
exactly...a calculated attempt to crawl over BOs back for yet more attention
I'm honestly surprised the media treats him like something other than an immature, spoiled, petulant child, who impulsively acts on emotions.
Maybe i'm missing something they know?
some conservatives like him because he feeds them shit they want to hear. liberals like him because he make conservatives look like jackasses.
Did you know that the NFL is a powerful leftist organization? Did you remember when a NFL game preempted the televised announcement of a coup d'etat directly after the Kennedy assassination> The coup was foiled and decades of crypto-communist government ensued.
For the record, I still think you're out to lunch politically most of the time. But let's call a spade a spade, and until you start posting about secret communist plots to annex NM to Old Mexico you aren't a wing nut.
Being the POTUS really ages a man. I just saw a clip of Obama on CNN and he really is getting a lot of grey hair.
It does, I've noticed it with Bush, Clinton, Bush, and now Obama.
It is a thankless job, truly.
Whatever you do, a good portion of people are going to be pissed off.
Uh, Mr. President. Wake up please. I know it's 3 AM but you have a very important phone call waiting for you. It's the Chairman of the Boy Scouts of America. He sounds pretty angry sir.
Did you know that the NFL is a powerful leftist organization? Did you remember when a NFL game preempted the televised announcement of a coup d'etat directly after the Kennedy assassination> The coup was foiled and decades of crypto-communist government ensued.
Agent zero, your presence is required at the commie-dome.
It does, I've noticed it with Bush, Clinton, Bush, and now Obama.
It is a thankless job, truly.
Whatever you do, a good portion of people are going to be pissed off.
and the most extreme example was jimmy carter. he aged about 15 years during his 4 year term in office.
For the record, I still think you're out to lunch politically most of the time. But let's call a spade a spade, and until you start posting about secret communist plots to annex NM to Old Mexico you aren't a wing nut.
for the record...I have fought with just about everybody, I've had a ton of posts deleted, I've had a time out and my account has been pulled...I think Charles is trying to tell me something...I used to be civil all the time, that's where the music vids originated...I'd post them to try and create a diversion, cool people off...back a few years ago, people just pounded each other and it got so bad Charles had to step in regularly to break it up...fast foreward, I always defend an underdog if I think they are being unfairly hounded...and only a couple of posters can make me stop...there is no need for brazen hostility and rudeness, but once I'm a target, I'm in all the way until Charles or a certain few drag me off...it's just the way it is...and I rarely hold a grudge, and would be pleased if I could get along with everybody...some people don't want that tho
for the record...I have fought with just about everybody, I've had a ton of posts deleted, I've had a time out and my account has been pulled...I think Charles is trying to tell me something...I used to be civil all the time, that's where the music vids originated...I'd post them to try and create a diversion, cool people off...back a few years ago, people just pounded each other and it got so bad Charles had to step in regularly to break it up...fast foreward, I always defend an underdog if I think they are being unfairly hounded...and only a couple of posters can make me stop...there is no need for brazen hostility and rudeness, but once I'm a target, I'm in all the way until Charles or a certain few drag me off...it's just the way it is...and I rarely hold a grudge, and would be pleased if I could get along with everybody...some people don't want that tho
Don't go and get yourself banned. This place would change for the worst. I don't always agree with you, but I think you're needed. I think you help set the goal posts for this place, and you get hounded for it.
Do I wish sometimes you'd shut up before Charles gives you a time out...yes. Would I shut up if I was in your situation? Probably not. Not really in my character. I tend to dig in harder. I don't think its all on you, or me or any one poster though. Doesn't help when we find out we have stalkers here trying to stir up as much shit as possible either.
I told myself day 1 that I was here to learn from people with very different view points from myself, and I think I've lost track of that a bit in the last year. Something to aim for in year 2 I guess.
The White House let the Scouts know the President wouldn't be attending two months ago, long before he was scheduled to appear on The View. He has had numerous Oval Office visits with the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts, most recently meeting with a scouting delegation on the 12th. He will be addressing the Boy Scout jamboree by pre-recorded video.
Knowing two months in advance doesn't make it any better. I am a scout leader and a father of a tiger scout. This was a big event for the scouts and President Obama couldn't do what the previous three Presidents have done and attend the jamboree in person.
re: #64 Cato the Elder
Just to maintain the level of discourse, which C student... Kerry or Gore? POTUS has not permitted the release of his transcript from Occidental, so no way to really keep current with the comparisons.
re: #275 blueraven
No, I didn't... just reacted to what I see IMO too often, which is someone jumping on a silly typo merely because they're not fond of the author's idea.
If it was a self-correct ( haven't checked yet), mea culpa and disregard.
The White House let the Scouts know the President wouldn't be attending two months ago, long before he was scheduled to appear on The View. He has had numerous Oval Office visits with the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts, most recently meeting with a scouting delegation on the 12th. He will be addressing the Boy Scout jamboree by pre-recorded video.
As an Eagle Scout and as a Scouter, it doesn't bother me a bit that President Obama didn't make a personal appearance at Fort AP Hill...the taped message is more than adequate. Sure, it would have been nice for the President to have been there in person, but it would have been a complete logistics and security pain-in-the-ass.
People are forgetting the soggy potato chip theory when it comes to stories about BB. All children love potato chips. They prefer fresh, crispy ones, but if given the choice between soggy chips and no chips, they'll choose the soggy ones every time.
I don't see why people keep feeding the guy chips. He likes the soggy ones!
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