The Wild Conspiracy Theories of an Unhinged Islamophobic Blogger

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Crazed wingnut blogger Pamela “Shrieking Harpy” Geller has a book out, which must have been a real chore for the unlucky editor who had to correct her misspellings and tortured grammar. Elon Green has a look at this work of fiction (co-written with her fellow anti-Muslim fascist sympathizer, Robert Spencer), and asks the relevant question: Why Is Simon & Schuster Spreading the Wild Conspiracy Theories of an Unhinged Islamophobic Blogger?

Threshold Editions, the imprint upon which megapublisher Simon & Schuster dumps books it’s too ashamed to release under its own name, made a ballsy bet: that Pamela Geller — a deeply unhinged blogger who famously claimed that Barack Obama is the bastard child of Malcolm X — has an audience sufficiently large and loyal to justify a six-figure advance. Makes sense! If MSNBC, Fox, NBC and CNN have Geller on, the pool of inbred, 50-something Tea Partiers desirous of an icky melange of silicone and Tom Tancredo talking points cannot possibly have gone dry. Right?

Mary Matalin, the head of the imprint, is making a play for a crowd that can’t spell “niggar” but won’t mind reading a book about a man they see as just that — so long as it confirms their half-baked theories. What better way to siphon off Tea Partiers than through a lady who cheerfully befouls the Upper West Side with a toxic brew of rotating hatreds? On days ending in Y this includes Muslims (“The motor of this presidency is submission to Islam”), transgenders (“Does [Obama] chill with anyone who is normal?”) and health care reform — or as she calls it, “rape.”

This is bull goose loony territory, but it happens to be the language of modern conservatism. William Buckley’s body had not been in the ground 10 minutes before the National Review embraced Geller, happily laundering stories they wouldn’t publicly touch with a 10-foot noose. Here’s how it works: A couple weeks prior to the last presidential election, a Review editor linked to Geller’s blog and asked, “What is the deal with Obama’s birth certificate and citizenship status?” (Sort of like Seinfeld, but Catholic!) This, in turn, gave the magazine license to spend 4,000 words answering the question.

In another era, Pam Geller would be rotting away on Blackwell’s Island, counting cockroaches. Instead, the former associate publisher of the New York Observer managed to parlay her ability to find common cause with fascists and mid-level neo-Nazis, and her overt hatred of Muslims and liberal Jews, into an asset instead of a disqualifier. For Geller, a Borscht Belt Ann Coulter shtick is profitable.

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158 comments
1 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:34:08am

I'll write to them.

It'd disappointing that hate sells so well.

Hate is the new sex.

2 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:36:07am

She had a video clip on McLaughlin last night, protesting the NYC Mosque. I was disappointed to see her main streamed like that.

3 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:36:19am
Why Is Simon & Schuster Spreading the Wild Conspiracy Theories of an Unhinged Islamophobic Blogger?

Because the publishing industry is dying a slow, much-deserved death. It isn't any longer necessary, Just like television.

They will publish ANYTHING that promises to sell copies, much like the TV production industry will air ANYTHING that gets people to watch.

Both will be gone within 20 years.

4 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:37:39am

Charles, instead of posting her pic (the one you have) could you post the one of her in the fur coats where she looks like she is in a bear attack? Thanks.
CCA

5 Four More Tears  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:40:11am

re: #4 Cannadian Club Akbar

Charles, instead of posting her pic (the one you have) could you post the one of her in the fur coats where she looks like she is in a bear attack? Thanks.
CCA

Link? I'm curious...

6 Targetpractice  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:40:14am

re: #3 Fozzie Bear

Because the publishing industry is dying a slow, much-deserved death. It isn't any longer necessary, Just like television.

They will publish ANYTHING that promises to sell copies, much like the TV production industry will air ANYTHING that gets people to watch.

Both will be gone within 20 years.

Pretty much. It's like how anti-Bush/anti-Republican/anti-war books were hot items back during the previous administration. Remember all the gushing over Kitty Kelley when her "unauthorized biography" of Dubya came out?

7 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:40:52am

Heh. From the article:

The John Birch book club search for a summer read is over.

8 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:41:07am

That's a well-written review.

...an icky melange of silicone and Tom Tancredo talking points...

Heh.

9 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:41:08am

re: #5 JasonA

Link? I'm curious...

It was from a link here. She looked like an idiot.

10 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:42:24am

re: #3 Fozzie Bear

Because the publishing industry is dying a slow, much-deserved death. It isn't any longer necessary, Just like television.

They will publish ANYTHING that promises to sell copies, much like the TV production industry will air ANYTHING that gets people to watch.

Both will be gone within 20 years.

I don't think TV is gonna curl up and die that soon...

I mean do you know how much work it can be to look up mindless entertainment on the internet?

11 Targetpractice  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:43:17am

re: #10 jamesfirecat

I don't think TV is gonna curl up and die that soon...

I mean do you know how much work it can be to look up mindless entertainment on the internet?

It's simple, you just type in:

www.foxnews.com

12 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:43:48am

re: #11 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It's simple, you just type in:

www.foxnews.com

Well I mean quality mindless entertainment!

Cracked is only publishing 3 or so articles a day after all.....

13 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:44:00am

re: #10 jamesfirecat

I don't think TV is gonna curl up and die that soon...

I mean do you know how much work it can be to look up mindless entertainment on the internet?

Like now?
///

14 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:44:12am

re: #10 jamesfirecat

I don't think TV is gonna curl up and die that soon...

I mean do you know how much work it can be to look up mindless entertainment on the internet?

Less work than finding something worth watching on TV.

The "channel" or "station" based content model is dying, because it no longer makes any sense. There will still be "shows" in 20 years, but you won't be using a TV tuner to see them.

15 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:44:15am

That awful picture!

Quick, scroll it off the top of the screen!

16 BryanS  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:44:23am

It's getting attention because they've successfully spun the story as the mosque being built "on ground zero", as if the world trade center is going to be rebuilt as a gi-fricken-normous mosque.

17 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:45:11am

abridged version of book:

"blah blah blah muslims are not human beings, sieg heil"


there.

18 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:45:30am

Here's another review. I don't know anything about the reviewer other than what it says here, but it's enough for me to make sure I never read anything else by him:

“Sheer brilliance! Sharp, well-written and to-the-point. The ultimate patriot's handbook. Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer lay bare Barack Hussein Obama's radical agenda and how to stop it. No true American's library will be complete without this book.”

--Brad Thor, #1 New York Times bestselling author of Foreign Influence

Unless this review is satire...

19 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:45:59am

re: #17 SpaceJesus

abridged version of book:

"blah blah blah muslims are not human beings, sieg heil"

there.

Is that like a Cliffnote?

20 Gus  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:46:19am

re: #17 SpaceJesus

abridged version of book:

"blah blah blah muslims are not human beings, sieg heil"

there.

Or!

"Muslims are bad, m'kay."

The End /

21 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:47:02am

re: #3 Fozzie Bear

Not dying; books will still be written & published far into the future,

& a recent good book is Team of Rivals>by Doris Kearns Goodwin - 2006.

22 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:47:21am

re: #18 wrenchwench

The guy writes thrillers.

Sounds like he wants to be the next Clive Cussler.

From the review of his latest:

Fans of TV's 24 may enjoy the over-the-top setups, but even they might wish for a little more sophistication.

23 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:47:40am

re: #18 wrenchwench

Actually, Brad Thor is an awesome writer. I am surprised.

24 BryanS  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:48:03am

re: #18 wrenchwench

Here's another review. I don't know anything about the reviewer other than what it says here, but it's enough for me to make sure I never read anything else by him:

Unless this review is satire...

ultimate patriot's handbook...No true American...

That should be enough to consider the book's claims dubious, and the integrity of this reviewer at least, suspect.

25 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:48:18am

re: #14 Fozzie Bear

Less work than finding something worth watching on TV.

The "channel" or "station" based content model is dying, because it no longer makes any sense. There will still be "shows" in 20 years, but you won't be using a TV tuner to see them.

So it'll be like a gigantic soup of TV shows and I can select whatever I want to watch at any time?

Sort of like TVO but with EVERYTHING pre-recorded?

26 Targetpractice  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:48:19am

re: #16 BryanS

It's getting attention because they've successfully spun the story as the mosque being built "on ground zero", as if the world trade center is going to be rebuilt as a gi-fricken-normous mosque.

As the sayin' goes, a lie told enough times begins to sound like the truth. It started out as being "within sight" of Ground Zero, then next to Ground Zero, now practically on Ground Zero. How long before it expands to "They're buying up all the buildings around Ground Zero and turning them into New Dearborn!"?

27 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:49:05am

re: #18 wrenchwench

Here's another review. I don't know anything about the reviewer other than what it says here, but it's enough for me to make sure I never read anything else by him:

Unless this review is satire...

Glenn Beck contributor, Breitbart blogger.

28 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:49:13am

re: #19 Cannadian Club Akbar

Is that like a Cliffnote?


yes, except for a book nobody will read

29 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:50:11am

Here are some others who gave the book a favorable review:

Geert Wilders
David Horowitz
Mark Steyn
Caroline Glick
Andrew C. McCarthy

And of course, the author of the forward:

John Bolton

30 Targetpractice  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:50:13am

re: #14 Fozzie Bear

Less work than finding something worth watching on TV.

The "channel" or "station" based content model is dying, because it no longer makes any sense. There will still be "shows" in 20 years, but you won't be using a TV tuner to see them.

I don't see it happenin'. So long as the movie studios either produce or support their own stations, and sell advertising spots to the highest bidders, there will always be TV stations. The means of accessing them will change, but they'll always be there.

31 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:50:29am

I wish the reviewer hadn't pussyfooted around and just said what he felt.

Greetings all.

32 Four More Tears  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:50:31am

re: #23 Cannadian Club Akbar

Actually, Brad Thor is an awesome writer. I am surprised.

He has an awesome last name, I'll give him that...

33 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:50:47am

re: #23 Cannadian Club Akbar

Actually, Brad Thor is an awesome writer. I am surprised.

According to Wiki, he's a regular contributor to Beck.

And:


On June 17, 2009, Thor hosted a one-hour "Insider Special" for Beck's radio show. He also blogs for Andrew Breitbart's site BigJournalism.com.[10]
34 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:52:06am

re: #32 JasonA

He has an awesome last name, I'll give him that...

Sounds like a name for a Soap Opera. Kinda like Willington Dasherbash. Or not.

35 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:57:28am

I wanna say Thor also wrote Terror is Beslan.

36 BryanS  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:59:06am
Threshold Editions, the imprint upon which megapublisher Simon & Schuster dumps books it’s too ashamed to release under its own name

Curious that a publisher has its own division for publishing things it already knows would be an embarrassment. Publishers shouldn't be allowed to get away with that without public scrutiny like that given by this and other blogs.

I was going to leave it at saying that, but doing a quick google search on the name "Threshold Editions", it looks like it's a division that publishes conservative books. If that's the purpose of the brand, then it makes sense to publish under that brand.

From wiki:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Looks like this is a common trend in the industry.

37 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 11:59:18am

re: #35 Cannadian Club Akbar

I wanna say Thor also wrote Terror is Beslan.

I found nothing.

38 BryanS  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:00:19pm

re: #36 BryanS

Looks like this is a common trend in the industry.

meant to post some text from the wiki about it being a common trend:

Threshold was launched in 2005 after Penguin Group and Random House started their own conservative imprints, Sentinel HC and Crown Forum.[2]

39 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:04:17pm

re: #36 BryanS

Corsi writes for WND. Hannity is an idiot. Some names I never heard of. But I do own books by others.

40 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:04:40pm

The book has its own website. I guess that's how things are done these days. The "discussion forum" looks pretty heavily monitored:

The Post-American Presidency Forum

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41 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:05:10pm

Crazed wingnut blogger Pamela “Shrieking Harpy” Geller has a book out,

And the library just called her saying it's overdue!

(and she's PISSED,,, she didn't even get to the end to see if Lil Bo Peep found her sheep!!)

42 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:05:42pm

I know we're still in low double digits but since not many people are posting I'm gonna go OT for a bit.

[Link: www.washingtonmonthly.com...]

Wow, I'm not sure if whoever came up with this idea should be given a round of applause or a chorus of boos, but it's something to say the least....

43 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:06:41pm

The "book's" title is The Post-American Presidency. What the bloody hell does that even mean?

I am ashamed to belong to the same species as Geller.

44 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:07:08pm

re: #40 wrenchwench

The book has its own website. I guess that's how things are done these days. The "discussion forum" looks pretty heavily monitored:

///Do you think they'd let me post if I said "This book was so great I no longer feel the need for sex, instead I just read this book, over and over again..."

45 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:07:09pm

re: #42 jamesfirecat

Matlock is a tool.

46 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:07:43pm

re: #42 jamesfirecat

I know we're still in low double digits but since not many people are posting I'm gonna go OT for a bit.

[Link: www.washingtonmonthly.com...]

Wow, I'm not sure if whoever came up with this idea should be given a round of applause or a chorus of boos, but it's something to say the least...

All it says is that Griffith is cashing an endorsement check, nothing more, nothing less

47 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:07:49pm

Man all you gotta do is blow up a couple of towers and they never stop.

/

48 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:08:12pm

re: #43 Cato the Elder

The "book's" title is The Post-American Presidency. What the bloody hell does that even mean?

I am ashamed to belong to the same species as Geller.

Don't worry
We don't!

49 Stanghazi  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:09:49pm

re: #42 jamesfirecat

I know we're still in low double digits but since not many people are posting I'm gonna go OT for a bit.

[Link: www.washingtonmonthly.com...]

Wow, I'm not sure if whoever came up with this idea should be given a round of applause or a chorus of boos, but it's something to say the least...


Remember the Funny or Die vid for Obama starring Opie & Andy??

50 Stanghazi  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:10:52pm

re: #46 sattv4u2

All it says is that Griffith is cashing an endorsement check, nothing more, nothing less

Nah, Ange supports Obama. See the video I just posted above.

51 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:12:32pm

re: #50 Stanley Sea

Nah, Ange supports Obama. See the video I just posted above.

Doesn't mean "Ange" didn't get paid for the spot

52 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:13:53pm

re: #51 sattv4u2

Doesn't mean "Ange" didn't get paid for the spot

To appeal to people who will be dead when HCR kicks in.

53 Four More Tears  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:15:34pm

Sorry to go ot, but this is getting even worse...


Death toll in Pakistani floods surges past 800

54 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:19:31pm

re: #40 wrenchwench

This books it outsandingly outstanding.


Lol
I think she probably wrote that one herself.

55 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:19:37pm

re: #52 Cannadian Club Akbar

To appeal to people who will be dead when HCR kicks in.

Not to mention almost another 100 in Afghanistan from the same monsoon

56 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:19:47pm

Since I'm Mr. OT today let me also bring you this astounding example of historyfail from Newt Gingrich and friends....

Gingrich aide: Mosque at Ground Zero is like statue of Marx at Arlington
[Link: www.salon.com...]

It gets better by the way...

Asked what the 19th century German philosopher had ever done to America, Gingrich spokesman Rick Tyler said: "Well let's go with Lenin then."

My sarcasm is not capable of dealing with this level of foolishness....

57 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:20:45pm

re: #54 Killgore Trout

Lol
I think she probably wrote that one herself.

Maybe she's trying to emulate Charles' "outrageous outrage"

imitation, you know!

58 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:24:15pm
Why Is Simon & Schuster Spreading the Wild Conspiracy Theories of an Unhinged Islamophobic Blogger?

Seek and ye shall find

has an audience sufficiently large and loyal to justify a six-figure advance.

She probably does, ergo, done deal. I'm not sure why anyone has to wonder how something like this gets published. It's called profit. I know, big leap there, but I think the theory holds up in a capitalist based economy.

59 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:24:18pm

re: #55 sattv4u2

Not to mention almost another 100 in Afghanistan from the same monsoon

I feel for all. I am not trying to be callous here.

60 webevintage  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:24:21pm

re: #44 jamesfirecat

///Do you think they'd let me post if I said "This book was so great I no longer feel the need for sex, instead I just read this book, over and over again..."

Naw, but you could always add it to the Amazon reviews for the book.

I love reading Amazon reviews when they get crazy...the classic being the Three Wolf Moon Tshirt:
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

and Tuscan Milk:
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

61 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:28:09pm

re: #59 Cannadian Club Akbar

I feel for all. I am not trying to be callous here.

[Video]

my bad

My response was supposed to be for #53

62 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:29:11pm

re: #1 Obdicut

I'll write to them.

It'd disappointing that hate sells so well.

Hate is the new sex.

What do you mean by that?

63 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:30:18pm

re: #61 sattv4u2

my bad

My response was supposed to be for #53

I know. And the Rain Song, I played at a friend's wedding as his bride walked down the isle.

64 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:33:01pm

re: #63 Cannadian Club Akbar

I know. And the Rain Song, I played at a friend's wedding as his bride walked down the isle.

You played with what at a friends wedding?

65 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:33:21pm

The 3 Mosque - Ka - Tears
Larry "Mo" and Curly

66 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:33:36pm

My brother and his GF jst broke up and had to work together today. She wants to be friends. My gosh, does the teaching ever end?

67 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:34:58pm

re: #64 Walter L. Newton

You played with what at a friends wedding?

I played The Rain Song at a friend's wedding. On cassette. Glad I didn't say 8 track.

68 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:35:18pm

Nuyk Nuyk Nuyk.

69 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:35:49pm

re: #64 Walter L. Newton

You played with what at a friends wedding?

it was a "touching" moment!

70 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:36:22pm

re: #62 Casual Talker

What do you mean by that?

People are using hate and fear to sell things more and more than sex, these days.

I prefer sex.

71 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:37:31pm

re: #70 Obdicut

People are using hate and fear to sell things more and more than sex, these days.

I prefer sex.

So do I, but in terms of 'sales', I see no evidence for your assertion - it's a good talking point, though.

72 Gus  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:38:57pm

Good grief I had to go ahead an look at her web site. Now she's trying to concoct a conspiracy theory tying the Xenel Corporation-Al Qaeda/Bin Laden Family and Cordoba House/Park 51.

Without going into too much detail Xenel is a business partner with Chevron:

[We] also believe strongly in partnerships with the private sector, which now accounts for almost half the Kingdom's GDP. We are partnering with the Saudi Industrial Investment Group in three major petrochemical projects amounting to over $5 billion in investment in the Eastern Province. And here in Jeddah, we have launched the Chevron Al Bakri marketing joint venture for lubricants and other downstream products. This is in addition to our longstanding business and personal relationship with Xenel and the Au Reza family, one of whom, Khalid, was honored here last evening.

Xenel also is in a joint venture with AECOM Technology:

July 29, 2010 – Officials of the Jizan Province awarded a management contract to Resources Sciences Arabia Limited, a joint venture between Xenel Group and U.S. company AECOM Technology Corporation, for a housing development project in the Kingdom. The two year agreement, worth $16 million (SR60 million), will provide program management services for the housing community to be built in Jizan. The development includes the creation of five new villages totaling 6,000 housing units, which will provide free accommodations for local citizens displaced from their homes by the conflict with Yemen in late 2009.

AECOM's CEO is John M. Dionisio. There's also an AECOM US FEDERAL PAC which contributed to many Republican candidates including George W. Bush.

If Geller is going to start connecting dots maybe she should take a look at Xenel and AECOM a company that has influence in American politics through their AECOM US Fedearl PAC.

73 KingKenrod  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:39:12pm

re: #60 webevintage

Naw, but you could always add it to the Amazon reviews for the book.

I love reading Amazon reviews when they get crazy...the classic being the Three Wolf Moon Tshirt:
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

and Tuscan Milk:
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Or another classic, these reviews for a $2,500 AKDL1 cat5 cable from Denon:

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

74 Varek Raith  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:40:16pm

re: #72 Gus 802

Good grief I had to go ahead an look at her web site. Now she's trying to concoct a conspiracy theory tying the Xenel Corporation-Al Qaeda/Bin Laden Family and Cordoba House/Park 51.

Without going into too much detail Xenel is a business partner with Chevron:

AECOM's CEO is John M. Dionisio. There's also an AECOM US FEDERAL PAC which contributed to many Republican candidates including George W. Bush.

If Geller is going to start connecting dots maybe she should take a look at Xenel and AECOM a company that has influence in American politics through their AECOM US Fedearl PAC.

Heh.
Whoops.

75 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:40:18pm

One of the most beautiful sounds on the planet

76 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:40:27pm

re: #72 Gus 802

Or Fox and the SA dude that ones 49 percent.

77 Gus  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:40:39pm

re: #74 Varek Raith

Heh.
Whoops.

I'll say. What a dip.

78 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:41:24pm

re: #70 Obdicut

People are using hate and fear to sell things more and more than sex, these days.

I prefer sex.

because you can't find more sex for sale on the internet than you can hate!

79 Gus  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:41:31pm

re: #76 Walter L. Newton

Or Fox and the SA dude that ones 49 percent.

Oh yeah. Fox is now owned by the Saudis!!11ty.

80 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:42:11pm

re: #71 Casual Talker

updinged ,, gmta (78)

81 McSpiff  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:44:52pm

re: #78 sattv4u2

because you can't find more sex for sale on the internet than you can hate!

Seems to be mostly given away for free...

82 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:46:05pm

re: #81 McSpiff

Seems to be mostly given away for free...

WHERE!!!!!

83 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:46:13pm

re: #82 sattv4u2

WHERE!!!

:)

84 darthstar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:47:18pm

Geller's "howler monkey fans"...ooh, if they were able to read that review, let alone her book, they might just be offended.

85 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:47:35pm

re: #80 sattv4u2

updinged ,, gmta (78)

Things will have had to change a lot for hate to override sex. Don't know where Obdicutte is coming from, but I bet that he/she is a yongster.

86 McSpiff  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:47:41pm

re: #83 sattv4u2

;-)

87 Varek Raith  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:47:50pm

re: #84 darthstar

Geller's "howler monkey fans"...ooh, if they were able to read that review, let alone her book, they might just be offended.

They can read?!
/...?

88 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:48:10pm

re: #82 sattv4u2

WHERE!!!

This porn has been brought to you by AlGore.
/

89 Stonemason  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:51:47pm

re: #84 darthstar

Geller's "howler monkey fans"...ooh, if they were able to read that review, let alone her book, they might just be offended.

Nahhh, they saw the 'chimpy' nickname for President Bush too many times from the left wing blog-o-sphere to expect different now.

90 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:51:55pm

re: #71 Casual Talker

Well, it's not like I've done a large study or anything. And they haven't stopped using sex.

You seem to be taking my comment as though it was the beginning of a presentation to Ogilvy & Mather.

91 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:52:40pm

re: #79 Gus 802

Oh yeah. Fox is now owned by the Saudis!!11ty.

I wasn't saying that at all.

92 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:55:27pm

re: #90 Obdicut

Well, it's not like I've done a large study or anything. And they haven't stopped using sex.

You seem to be taking my comment as though it was the beginning of a presentation to Ogilvy & Mather.

It was your comment, not mine. You've now a brought a marketing/PR firm as part of your argument. Do you really with to stand behind such a ludicrous argument?

93 Gus  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:56:23pm

re: #91 Walter L. Newton

I wasn't saying that at all.

Ah. Guess I'll never know what you meant then.

94 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:59:56pm

re: #6 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Pretty much. It's like how anti-Bush/anti-Republican/anti-war books were hot items back during the previous administration. Remember all the gushing over Kitty Kelley when her "unauthorized biography" of Dubya came out?

Did she say he was the love child of Malcolm X, though?

95 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:06:00pm

re: #92 Casual Talker

It was your comment, not mine. You've now a brought a marketing/PR firm as part of your argument. Do you really with to stand behind such a ludicrous argument?

In other news, Jalopnik calls the new Impreza STI "fucking balls rad"

Casual Talker asks the difficult questions! "Why would someone have sex with an irradiated vehicle?"

96 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:06:14pm

She gets six figures for her fiction? Christ, my last royalty check was $25 and change.

Life really isn't fair.

/semi

97 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:07:07pm

re: #96 Romantic Heretic

She gets six figures for her fiction? Christ, my last royalty check was $25 and change.

Life really isn't fair.

/semi

Well, if you work really really really hard at being the craziest cuckoo-for-cocoa-puffs crazy you can be...good things come!

98 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:07:13pm

re: #29 wrenchwench

Here are some others who gave the book a favorable review:

Geert Wilders
David Horowitz
Mark Steyn
Caroline Glick
Andrew C. McCarthy

And of course, the author of the forward:

John Bolton

I'm disappointed in Glick and Bolton.

(I fully expect the lady who objected to that the last time to jump up now and start chiding me about how I don't know what's in Caroline Glick's heart.)

99 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:07:15pm

re: #1 Obdicut

I'll write to them.

It'd disappointing that hate sells so well.

Hate is the new sex.

The hormones fed into the human body are very similar. Unfortunately.

100 Stonemason  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:08:09pm

re: #94 SanFranciscoZionist

Nope, but there are books out there that say President Bush was complicit in the murder of over 3000 people on September 11, 2001.

Books will be written and published forever (I hope), and will not please everyone.

disclaimer to both my posts on this thread: I am defending her right to publish stupid stuff, not the stupid stuff.

101 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:09:23pm

re: #97 WindUpBird

Well, if you work really really really hard at being the craziest cuckoo-for-cocoa-puffs crazy you can be...good things come!

Sigh. Unfortunately I'm only mildly insane.

102 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:10:56pm

re: #95 WindUpBird

In other news, Jalopnik calls the new Impreza STI "fucking balls rad"

Casual Talker asks the difficult questions! "Why would someone have sex with an irradiated vehicle?"

You have a good sense of humor. Cheers!

103 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:13:33pm

re: #56 jamesfirecat

Since I'm Mr. OT today let me also bring you this astounding example of historyfail from Newt Gingrich and friends...

Gingrich aide: Mosque at Ground Zero is like statue of Marx at Arlington
[Link: www.salon.com...]

It gets better by the way...

Asked what the 19th century German philosopher had ever done to America, Gingrich spokesman Rick Tyler said: "Well let's go with Lenin then."

My sarcasm is not capable of dealing with this level of foolishness...

I realize the point here is supposed to be Islam and Communism Are Both Dangerous Foreign Ideologies, but I can't really sort out the analogy in my head.

104 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:15:06pm

re: #103 SanFranciscoZionist

I realize the point here is supposed to be Islam and Communism Are Both Dangerous Foreign Ideologies, but I can't really sort out the analogy in my head.

Umm... there's more to it than that...

When you hear "Arlington Cemetery" what war do you think the soldiers buried there fought in?

105 Stonemason  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:20:26pm

re: #104 jamesfirecat

Every one since 1864?

106 webevintage  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:21:33pm

re: #73 KingKenrod

Or another classic, these reviews for a $2,500 AKDL1 cat5 cable from Denon:

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

But then I realized the cable was blue, so I only gave it one star. I hate blue.

hahahaha
There was one for a cutting board that had a review from Deatheater Bellatrix Lastrange discuss the virtue of said cutting board when slicing up muggles....

107 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:30:32pm

re: #105 Stonemason

Every one since 1864?

I know it's not a cemetery devoted to soldiers of one particular war, but here's how my thought process goes...

When I think of Arlington Cemetery I think of the civil war.

Because that's when it first opened and that's how we got it, because the north ceased what used to be one of General Lee's estates and turned it into a place to bury their dead.

Granted I suppose it's not quite as idiotic as saying "would you put a statue to Hitler in Flanders Field?"

Since Flanders Field was only used bury the dead of WW1, right? (I could be wrong about that also...)

108 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:33:46pm

re: #92 Casual Talker

It was your comment, not mine. You've now a brought a marketing/PR firm as part of your argument. Do you really with to stand behind such a ludicrous argument?

What the fuck are you talking about?

I haven't made an argument. I brought up the marketing firm as an assertion that I wasn't making anything like any sort of informed or formal claim.

What's your deal?

109 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:35:50pm

re: #108 Obdicut

What the fuck are you talking about?

I haven't made an argument. I brought up the marketing firm as an assertion that I wasn't making anything like any sort of informed or formal claim.

What's your deal?

It's Internet Weird Behavior #543. Take a casual piece of throwaway rhetoric, demand proof, refuse to let the issue drop.

Everyone, cut it out and come talk about the "Islam is of the Devil" people.

110 Stonemason  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:36:01pm

re: #107 jamesfirecat

Don't disagree, I was just answering your question. A better comparison would have been a 'statue of Hirohito' on Hawaii.

well, closer, but still not good.

111 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:36:53pm

re: #108 Obdicut

What the fuck are you talking about?

I haven't made an argument. I brought up the marketing firm as an assertion that I wasn't making anything like any sort of informed or formal claim.

What's your deal?

So you didn't mean it? OK. I get it now.

112 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:37:51pm

re: #111 Casual Talker

So you didn't mean it? OK. I get it now.

You really fail to live up to your name.

113 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:38:44pm

re: #111 Casual Talker

So you didn't mean it? OK. I get it now.

What's your deal? So far you're just Casual Antagonist. Get to the point.

114 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:41:35pm

re: #112 Obdicut

You really fail to live up to your name.

How so?

It's still just discussion - worlds won't collide on this. You are usually much more precise in your use of words. I thought you were making a serious point and I was challenging that. Easy enough to say 'just kidding'. Still casual to me.

115 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:42:14pm

re: #113 BigPapa

What's your deal? So far you're just Casual Antagonist. Get to the point.

Read back a bit.

116 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:44:27pm

re: #115 Casual Talker

Read back a bit.

I did, it's a short thread. Instead of speculating what I think your point is, you could just say it instead of questioning somebody else' point.

117 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:45:19pm

re: #114 Casual Talker

I wasn't just kidding. And I used words precisely.

When people say "pink is the new black", do they actually mean that pink is, overnight, the most used color in the spectrum? No, they mean that pink is the new go-to color, that it's being used a lot more, suddenly. Which is what I said, using what we call in English an 'idiom'.

X is the new X is a phrase. It's not part of formal logic. Then saying that I've made a ludicrous argument-- when I haven't made any argument-- is just needlessly dicking around.

118 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:46:35pm

re: #116 BigPapa

I did, it's a short thread. Instead of speculating what I think your point is, you could just say it instead of questioning somebody else' point.

I thought Obdicut was making a serious point in equating hate with sex vis a vis culture. I challenged that, as I don't believe that's true. Turns out (I think), he was joking or somesuch. That's how the conversation started.

119 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:49:10pm

re: #117 Obdicut

I wasn't just kidding. And I used words precisely.

When people say "pink is the new black", do they actually mean that pink is, overnight, the most used color in the spectrum? No, they mean that pink is the new go-to color, that it's being used a lot more, suddenly. Which is what I said, using what we call in English an 'idiom'.

X is the new X is a phrase. It's not part of formal logic. Then saying that I've made a ludicrous argument-- when I haven't made any argument-- is just needlessly dicking around.

So in what respect does sex = hate? Help me understand so we can have a more productive conversation.

FWIW, my interpretation of your statement related to cultural coverage and interest. If I'm wrong about what you meant I'm happy to be corrected.

120 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:49:23pm

re: #118 Casual Talker

I thought Obdicut was making a serious point in equating hate with sex vis a vis culture. I challenged that, as I don't believe that's true.

No joke and an easily made argument. I believe you typed to the effect 'no evidence' of that. There's evidence all around.

121 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:50:50pm

re: #120 BigPapa

No joke and an easily made argument. I believe you typed to the effect 'no evidence' of that. There's evidence all around.

So we've gone around the circle. What evidence is there that these things are equivalent?

122 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:50:54pm

re: #119 Casual Talker

So in what respect does sex = hate? Help me understand so we can have a more productive conversation.

You're just screwing around.

123 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:52:28pm

re: #119 Casual Talker

Have you seriously, seriously never heard the expression "X is the new X"? It's been a phrase since like the 50s, and started ironic use in the 90s.

124 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:52:43pm

re: #122 BigPapa

You're just screwing around.

And you're quoting one sentence without the follow-on.

125 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:53:58pm

re: #123 Obdicut

Have you seriously, seriously never heard the expression "X is the new X"? It's been a phrase since like the 50s, and started ironic use in the 90s.

Yes, and did you read my last comment? It was an overture for disussion. Did I interpret your statement wrong. And if so (see comment 119), please clarify.

126 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:54:42pm

re: #125 Casual Talker

Okay. Do you understand what "x is the new x" means?

127 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:54:49pm

Evidence abounds that 'hate is the new sex.' Read the post at the top of this thread. That's not the same as saying 'sex = hate.

128 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:56:24pm

re: #126 Obdicut

Okay. Do you understand what "x is the new x" means?

As per my previous comment (relative to cultural connectivity) I believe I do. Please continue.

129 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 2:02:27pm

re: #128 Casual Talker

Then explain what you think it means, because I'm really not feeling that you do. You are asking for an explanation of why hate = sex. X is the new X does not actually equate the two, at all-- as I've already explained.

So far, you seem like you misunderstood an idiom, decided that I was making a formal argument, and resisted all attempts at clarification. While being incredibly un-casual.

Hate is the new sex means that there is an increase in the usage of 'hate' to sell things, just as pink is the new black means there is an increase in the usage of pink in a season's fashion. It is never a formal claim.

What more do you need explained to you?

130 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 2:04:43pm

re: #126 Obdicut

Okay. Do you understand what "x is the new x" means?

Since you brought up the marketing/PR analogy, I'm assuming you thought it related. Correct me if I'm wrong.

If, in the lingua franca of culture, hate=sex, one might expect to see product advertising, reality TV shows, etc... marked up with hate instead of sex. Instead of the Bud bikini gals - a bunch of hooded beer-drinkers. You follow me?

I don't see that. That is why I don't believe that hate has replace sex as the new tittilating device. Now, if I still don't get the x=x thing, please explain - but that is the evidence that I would otherwise be looking for to denote a new fashionable state of culture.

Again, I'm open for correction in case I don't completely understand your point.

131 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 2:05:14pm

I think you're getting toyed with Obdi. Plus wifey wants to go get some pho' so BBL.

132 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 2:07:23pm

re: #129 Obdicut

Then explain what you think it means, because I'm really not feeling that you do. You are asking for an explanation of why hate = sex. X is the new X does not actually equate the two, at all-- as I've already explained.

So far, you seem like you misunderstood an idiom, decided that I was making a formal argument, and resisted all attempts at clarification. While being incredibly un-casual.

Hate is the new sex means that there is an increase in the usage of 'hate' to sell things, just as pink is the new black means there is an increase in the usage of pink in a season's fashion. It is never a formal claim.

What more do you need explained to you?

I saw this comment as I was composing my own. I think that I really grasp the meaning of x = x. Could you give me some examples of hate entering the marketing medium (per your words... 'increase in the usage of 'hate' to sell things'). Maybe I'm not in an area where marketing works that way but I'm amenable to examples.

Either way, I think we are getting closer to a dialogue.

133 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 2:12:16pm

re: #129 Obdicut

BTW - the nick relates more to demeanor than content. For me, internet dialogue is casual regardless of subject. Just wanted to clarify that as it should not be an obstacle to meaningful conversation.

134 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 2:15:28pm

re: #130 Casual Talker

I think that I really grasp the meaning of x = x.

As I said, the meaning of "X is the new X" is explicitly not that x = x.

I'm going to a party. I don't know if you're just trolling or extremely bad at reading comprehension.

135 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 2:18:36pm

re: #134 Obdicut

As I said, the meaning of "X is the new X" is explicitly not that x = x.

I'm going to a party. I don't know if you're just trolling or extremely bad at reading comprehension.

I've given you a slew of alternative definitions, clarifications of what 'I think you mean' and solicitations to augment my understanding of your POV. Your reply leads me to believe that you that you have ignored these.

Have fun at your party though.

136 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 2:27:17pm

re: #134 Obdicut

As I said, the meaning of "X is the new X" is explicitly not that x = x.

I'm going to a party. I don't know if you're just trolling or extremely bad at reading comprehension.

At another time, when you do not have schedule conflicts, I would appreciate some examples in marketing of 'hate being the new sex'. Please show me how sex has been shoved aside in favor of hate by the marketing industry.

This would demonstrate your point of view much better than simply implying that I am culturally illiterate and am incapable of understanding basic marketing phrases.

137 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 2:30:06pm

re: #98 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm disappointed in Glick and Bolton.

(I fully expect the lady who objected to that the last time to jump up now and start chiding me about how I don't know what's in Caroline Glick's heart.)

I don't know who Glick is, but Bolton has been clownshit insane since birth.

138 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 3:57:15pm

re: #136 Casual Talker

Please show me how sex has been shoved aside in favor of hate by the marketing industry.

The evidence for the point made is the subject of this blog post: hate to sell books. Therefore, 'sex is the new hate.'

There's been no assertion that the advertising industry is going to reduce T&A commercials selling beer with a bunch of skinheads slam dancing to sell the same beer. There is much much evidence that media (blogs and print) are selling them with hate/xenophobia/fear.

That was it. The evidence is right in front of you if you choose to find it.

139 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:21:25pm

re: #136 Casual Talker

At another time, when you do not have schedule conflicts, I would appreciate some examples in marketing of 'hate being the new sex'. Please show me how sex has been shoved aside in favor of hate by the marketing industry.

This would demonstrate your point of view much better than simply implying that I am culturally illiterate and am incapable of understanding basic marketing phrases.

You're getting weird, man

real weird

140 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:22:50pm

re: #109 SanFranciscoZionist

It's Internet Weird Behavior #543. Take a casual piece of throwaway rhetoric, demand proof, refuse to let the issue drop.

Everyone, cut it out and come talk about the "Islam is of the Devil" people.

perfect call

141 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:27:14pm

re: #138 BigPapa

The evidence for the point made is the subject of this blog post: hate to sell books. Therefore, 'sex is the new hate.'

There's been no assertion that the advertising industry is going to reduce T&A commercials selling beer with a bunch of skinheads slam dancing to sell the same beer. There is much much evidence that media (blogs and print) are selling them with hate/xenophobia/fear.

That was it. The evidence is right in front of you if you choose to find it.

The subject of the blog post is 'hate superecedes sex as new best-selling theme'. Please my child, you need to read more carefully.

142 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:28:11pm

re: #139 WindUpBird

You're getting weird, man

real weird

Jalopnik finds you 'way cool'!

143 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:28:51pm
Why Is Simon & Schuster Spreading the Wild Conspiracy Theories of an Unhinged Islamophobic Blogger?

The obvious answer is because they smell money. Free market capitalism is by definition sociopathic. Whether that's a problem or not is a matter of opinion.

144 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:34:27pm

re: #141 Casual Talker

The subject of the blog post is 'hate superecedes sex as new best-selling theme'. Please my child, you need to read more carefully.

I knew you were a passive aggressive troll.

145 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:35:01pm

re: #138 BigPapa

You argue with yourself.

On one hand.....

'sex is the new hate.'

On the other.....


There's been no assertion that the advertising industry is going to reduce T&A commercials selling beer with a bunch of skinheads slam dancing to sell the same beer.

Wake me up when someone wins. Actually... dont bother. I'm quite comfortable.

146 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:39:41pm

re: #138 BigPapa

Therefore, 'sex is the new hate.hate is the new sex.

There, fixed it.

147 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:44:41pm

re: #145 Casual Talker

Wake me up when someone wins. Actually... dont bother. I'm quite comfortable.

It's obvious to you I made a typing error, unless you're obtuse. Or you just want to fuck with me. You win, casually.

148 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:47:37pm

re: #147 BigPapa

The point stands, independent of operator order.

149 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:48:49pm

re: #148 Casual Talker

The point stands, independent of operator order.

Which point is that?

150 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:50:37pm

re: #149 BigPapa

Which point is that?

The point you have been arguing.

151 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:51:43pm

re: #150 Casual Talker

The point you have been arguing.

GAZE.

152 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:52:06pm

re: #151 Obdicut

GAZE.

Hope you had a good time at the party.

153 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:53:01pm

re: #150 Casual Talker

The point you have been arguing.

The point I was arguing was that I agreed with another poster's comment in the context in which is was made: 'Hate is the new sex.'

So I guess it stands despite operator error.

154 swamprat  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:54:39pm

Hate sells. Tribalism is the medium used to make the pitch. People are persuaded that they belong to such-and-such a group and should therefore cleave to this group and avoid the rival group because the rival group is foul and the promoted tribal group is good.
So we get;

Democrats bewailing the Republican's' racism and industrial selling out.
Republicans bewailing the Democrats' liberal spending and industries faults being pointed out.
Capitalists bewailing the Republicans', and the Democrats' taxes and then bailing out.
Black leaders yelling about white racism.
Racists yelling about Black leaders.
Both these guys are yelling so loudly, their illegal immigrant gardeners and housekeepers are going to ask for minimum wage because it is not worth the aggravation to put up with these jerks.
Republicans are getting in touch with their inner Lester Maddox.
Democrats are getting in touch with their inner Hugo Chavez.
Citizens are getting in touch with their inner anarchist.
Fox is vilified by the left.
All the other news outlets are vilified by the right.
No one can believe any of them.
The young are sold "rebellious" music that pretty much paints within the lines assigned to it.
The old are sold old concepts turned out in new clothing , or sold scams because it is believed that they are too old and stupid to realize that they are being conned.
History is spun to the whim of the teller, and everyone spins it to his own liking.
We are told what we believe by pollsters that believe they want to continue to get paid.
We are told what group we belong to, how we "should" feel, how the "other" group feels, and what we should do about it.

The Democrats cry; The Republicans are racist! and we never were!
The Republicans cry; Racism? Hey, if we don't actually renounce racism, while still pandering to those guys, we can can get votes from both groups!
The minorities just cry.

155 Casual Talker  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:55:28pm

re: #153 BigPapa

The point I was arguing was that I agreed with another poster's comment in the context in which is was made: 'Hate is the new sex.'

So I guess it stands despite operator error.

I disagree, and no one has provided proof otherwise.

It's a fairly simple thing to yield on, my friend, I'm not sure why you would argue this to the end really.

156 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:07:31pm

re: #155 Casual Talker

I disagree, and no one has provided proof otherwise.

It's a fairly simple thing to yield on, my friend, I'm not sure why you would argue this to the end really.

This blog post about Geller's advance is proof otherwise, how about starting there? Then we could move on to Fox, Breitbart, etc.

It's not even started, and if you're my friend you would act friendly instead of the passive aggressive feign and parry, and making hay out of irrelevant mistakes in typing.

157 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 8:37:31pm

re: #155 Casual Talker

I don't know what the hell kind of game you think you're playing, but that's the last time you play it at LGF.

158 ClaudeMonet  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 9:27:00pm

re: #56 jamesfirecat

Since I'm Mr. OT today let me also bring you this astounding example of historyfail from Newt Gingrich and friends...

Gingrich aide: Mosque at Ground Zero is like statue of Marx at Arlington
[Link: www.salon.com...]

It gets better by the way...

Asked what the 19th century German philosopher had ever done to America, Gingrich spokesman Rick Tyler said: "Well let's go with Lenin then."

My sarcasm is not capable of dealing with this level of foolishness...

Which Marx? Chico, Harpo, Groucho, Gummo, or Zeppo?

And what does an ex-Beatle have to do with Arlington Cemetery?

re: #72 Gus 802

If Geller is going to start connecting dots maybe she should take a look at Xenel and AECOM a company that has influence in American politics through their AECOM US Fedearl PAC.

Connecting the dots may be beyond her capabilities.


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