Inglis: The Ignored Conscience of an Increasingly Crackpot Party?

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At the New York Daily News, Mike Lupica says the Republican Party is starting to kill its own, but this isn’t just starting. The purge has been going on in earnest for more than a year.

The current Republican Party, one hijacked by hustlers and extremists, not only looks to destroy President Obama. It even starts to kill its own.

Rep. Bob Inglis, a voice of reason at a dumb, unreasonable time in American politics, is one of them. Inglis (R-S.C.) will be out of a job soon for not hating Barack Obama nearly enough. The irony, he says, is that he disagrees with Obama on almost everything.

Inglis, a conservative Republican from a state so red you worry it might set itself on fire, used to go after Bill Clinton with everything he had. But these days he comes up an even better American than a Republican, speaking his own mind, refusing to join a chorus of idiots and call Obama his enemy, or an enemy of the state. Inglis’ state or anybody else’s.

“I figured out early in the race I was taking a risk by being unwilling to call the President a socialist,” Inglis says. “I’d get asked a question and they’d all wait to see if I’d use the word - socialist - they were throwing around. I wouldn’t. Because I don’t think that’s what he is. To call him a socialist is to demean the office and stir up a passion that we need to be calming, rather than constantly stirring up.”

Listen to the guy. He doesn’t sound like some sore loser. Instead, Bob Inglis sounds like the ignored conscience of an increasingly crackpot party.

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155 comments
1 darthstar  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:16:50am

The Tea Party doesn't speak Inglis.

2 jamesfirecat  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:17:28am

I feel sorry for Inglis, he's trying to bail water out of a boat that other people insist will take care of itself once they drill a few more holes in the hull the water will naturally flow out them on its own...

3 darthstar  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:19:21am

re: #2 jamesfirecat

They just need someone to throw them an anvil. Paging Sharron Angle, Rand Paul, etc.

4 deranged cat  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:23:07am

"Why do I have to see Democrats as my enemies? I've got Al Qaeda. I've got the Taliban. I've got enough enemies. I'm supposed to call this President despicable? The people who are despicable are the ones who constantly mislead the public in the interest of selling books. Or themselves. And always cloaking themselves in patriotism. Shame on them."

Hear, hear!

Reminds me a lot of the article from Mother Jones about Inglis; [Link: motherjones.com...]

Great article too!

5 jc717  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:23:52am

It's crazy. I don't know what it would take for sanity to return to the GOP.
I don't think they have anyone left with enough gravitas to steer the ship around. GWB can't do it. Palin/Rush/Beck won't do it; they're making far too much money stirring things up. How long will it take for this nonsense to work its way out.

6 osprey34229  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:24:10am

Do you think M Lupica has the best interest of the
Republican party in mind when he writes his column ?

7 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:25:14am

re: #2 jamesfirecat

I feel sorry for Inglis, he's trying to bail water out of a boat that other people insist will take care of itself once they drill a few more holes in the hull the water will naturally flow out them on its own...

Inglis is the wireless operator telegraphing the Titanic about icebergs ahead. Try as he might, there's no way his message will get through the thick skulls at the other end in time to do any good.

8 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:26:35am

re: #6 osprey34229

At this point, do we care? The Republicans are imploding, and as far as I'm concerned, they can go right ahead. The voice of sanity will find another platform to speak from.

9 BishopX  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:27:13am

Inglis 2012?

10 kirkspencer  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:27:50am

The sad thing is that it's going to be a while before they're no longer an issue.

The Republicans will make gains in the House and Senate this year. The TPers will believe it's because most people agree with them. The job mess, the recession, the recoil from the heavy Dem gains of the last couple of elections, all are insignificant in their eyes.

They'll be more strident from November 2010 through November 2012. I still think it unlikely they'll take the presidency (due to the candidates) or more Congressional seats (due to their stridency). That'll bring on the "We were robbed" phase, something I'm looking forward to only in that it's the beginning of the end for them.

I'd not be surprised to see them being a voice in the 2020 presidential elections. Saddened, but not surprised.

11 garhighway  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:28:07am

re: #6 osprey34229

Do you think M Lupica has the best interest of the
Republican party in mind when he writes his column ?

Is that the right test?

When Mike sits down to write, should he be asking himself "How can I further the interests of the Republican Party today?"

12 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:28:18am

There is a Bachmann reelection add on the right sidebar.

Heh.

13 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:28:57am

re: #12 rwdflynavy

There is a Bachmann reelection add on the right sidebar.

Heh.

Must've been the 'crackpot' in the post's title.

14 ShaunP  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:29:20am

re: #9 BishopX

Inglis 2012?

I can't say that I would vote for him, but I definitely appreciate a politician that stands up for their principles, rather than folding to the will of "the base"...

*cough* McCain *cough*

15 cronus  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:29:33am

re: #6 osprey34229

Do you think M Lupica has the best interest of the
Republican party in mind when he writes his column ?

Do you think Inglis has the best interests of the Republican Party at heart when he says what he thinks? What relevance does Lupica's motivation have to the piece? Do you think he's misrepresenting Inglis' comments?

16 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:30:09am

Important Break News Update: The National Nightmare has Ended

17 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:31:18am

All aboard the S.S. GOP!
Image: 2371224505_208c8589a1.jpg

18 recusancy  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:34:26am

re: #16 Killgore Trout

Important Break News Update: The National Nightmare has Ended

So I can quit clutching my pearls? Thank god.

19 RadicalModerate  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:34:31am

Good news/Bad news for Rand Paul:

Good News: It appears that the stories that he had embellished his graduation from Baylor University are false.

Bad News: In 1983, as a member of the NoZe Brotherhood (basically a non-sanctioned college fraternal group), he may have participated in the kidnapping of and attempted forcible drug use by a female student.

GQ Exclusive: Rand Paul's Kooky College Days (Hint: There's a Secret Society Involved)

The strangest episode of Paul's time at Baylor occurred one afternoon in 1983 (although memories about all of these events are understandably a bit hazy, so the date might be slightly off), when he and a NoZe brother paid a visit to a female student who was one of Paul's teammates on the Baylor swim team. According to this woman, who requested anonymity because of her current job as a clinical psychologist, "He and Randy came to my house, they knocked on my door, and then they blindfolded me, tied me up, and put me in their car. They took me to their apartment and tried to force me to take bong hits. They'd been smoking pot." After the woman refused to smoke with them, Paul and his friend put her back in their car and drove to the countryside outside of Waco, where they stopped near a creek. "They told me their god was 'Aqua Buddha' and that I needed to bow down and worship him," the woman recalls. "They blindfolded me and made me bow down to 'Aqua Buddha' in the creek. I had to say, 'I worship you Aqua Buddha, I worship you.' At Baylor, there were people actively going around trying to save you and we had to go to chapel, so worshiping idols was a big no-no."

20 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:35:07am

re: #6 osprey34229

Lupica is a broken clock and his latest op-ed is a testament to being right every so often. That would be Mike Lupica - the sports writer and most well known for being on the ESPN show Sports Reporters. Apparently covering the Yankees and Mets isn't doing it for him these days so he's wading into politics.

He is right that Inglis is increasingly marginalized within the GOP. The problem with taking Lupica seriously is that he's completely ignored the messes in his own backyard. Where was Lupica to sound the warnings over his hometown Congressman Charlie Rangel? He's ignored that issue entirely (good luck finding even a passing reference to the corrupt New York Democrat).

How about Lupica on the NJ corruption? Nada.

21 rwmofo  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:36:41am

Now that he's been kicked to the curb, I wonder if Inglis, "the voice of reason," will side with the Democrat party and vote to pay off the teachers and government workers unions just in time for the mid-term elections.

22 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:36:42am

I see we now have a deranged cat commenting on the board.

Welcome! My crazy dog wants to marry you, if the constitutional scholars can just work out the details.

23 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:37:59am

re: #19 RadicalModerate

Thanks for that. Now I understand Weigel's latest Tweet:

The real question: Does Rand Paul think restaurants can discriminate against people who worship Aqua Buddha?
24 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:38:38am

re: #23 wrenchwench

Thanks for that. Now I understand Weigel's latest Tweet:

Fire Allah's arch-nemesis?

25 Randall Gross  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:39:44am

The great RINO hunt was started by the Toomey gang at "Club for Decay" way back during the election cycle of 2006 -- since then it's spun wildly out of their control, but they do have a few primary victories (some of which will turn out to be pyrrhic in the General) under their belts.
I think Cizzila did a count up over the weekend.

26 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:40:02am

re: #12 rwdflynavy

There is a Bachmann reelection add on the right sidebar.

Heh.

Saw that.

Earlier we had a nice ad for MuslimSingles.com, wishing us a happy Ramadan. With a cute Muslim couple, she in a hijab, he in the Muslim version of a kippah.

Run for the hills.

27 deranged cat  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:41:57am

re: #22 Cato the Elder


MRAHWWHWHWH
28 theheat  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:42:09am

re: #4 deranged cat

That's a fantastic article. Sadly, the photo at the beginning of the article shows a rather thin and unassuming looking man (Inglis) next to that bloated, apfel-cheeked, animated Hummel figure (Beck).

If politics were as simple as a race to the feed trough, Inglis would be grist for the stampede of raucous doughboys leading the charge. The Becks and Limbaughs are louder, ruder, girthier, and much more aggressive.

29 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:42:50am

re: #6 osprey34229

Do you think M Lupica has the best interest of the
Republican party in mind when he writes his column ?

I am certain that anyone who tells the truth about today's GOP will be slandered by people like you who don't know fucktarded tribalist theocratic fascism when they see it.

30 nines09  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:43:02am

I always wanted Mike Lupica and Mitch Albom to get a no holds barred ego rassling match on. Prissy and Smug Inc.

31 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:43:07am

It is amazing to me that even in its current delapidated state the GOP is poised to win a midterm majority in the House and possibly also in the Senate.
Just imagine what they will do to Obama in 2012 if the economy remains weak and the GOP can come up with even a moderately charismatic candidate.
And now, back to our regularly scheduled program...

32 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:43:20am

re: #26 Cato the Elder

Saw that.

Earlier we had a nice ad for MuslimSingles.com, wishing us a happy Ramadan. With a cute Muslim couple, she in a hijab, he in the Muslim version of a kippah.

Run for the hills.

SHARIA!!!111!!!!
//

33 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:43:28am

re: #27 deranged cat

[Video]
MRAHWWHWHWH

Those are so wrong...

34 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:43:35am

OT but possibly of interest: I'm adding a feature to the LGF Blog that will let registered users choose to receive any new comments posted in a thread via email. This will make it easier to keep track of comments for any Pages you post, or any threads you're interested in.

The emails will be sent to the email in your account, so if it isn't current you should update it in the My Account page.

35 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:46:11am

re: #32 rwdflynavy

SHARIA!!!111!!!
//

My Sharia!

36 garhighway  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:47:43am

re: #23 wrenchwench

Aqua Buddha? The after-shave for the debonair Buddhist?

37 BishopX  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:50:03am

re: #14 ShaunP

It's usually a bad sign when the other side(me) wants you to run. But I think that a republican running to the left of Obama in terms of Afghanistan and Civil Liberties/warrantless wire tapping would make the race decidedly....interesting.

38 RadicalModerate  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:50:38am

Oh my. The rightwing blogosphere is about to go nuclear on this one.

The Defense Secretary Closes A Command

Robert Gates is currently giving a statement at the Pentagon where he is ordering removal of the JFCOM, and announcing streamlining of both employee and contractor workforce, and will be migrating the IT departments of each military division under a common umbrella versus being maintained as separate entites.

39 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:50:42am

re: #27 deranged cat

That is just mean.

People are so dumb. "I like steam baths, therefore mr. fluffypants will like steam baths too!"

40 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:51:53am

re: #37 BishopX

It's usually a bad sign when the other side(me) wants you to run. But I think that a republican running to the left of Obama in terms of Afghanistan and Civil Liberties/warrantless wire tapping would make the race decidedly...interesting.

Obama's left flank is WIDE open, as he is, on many issues, more conservative than it was acceptable for GOP candidates to be a decade ago.

41 cronus  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:51:57am

OT: Haley Barbour will be today's candidate/victim of the Tea Party litmus test. Will his support of the AZ immigration law be sufficient or will he be brought to heel because he doesn't see its application in Mississippi?

Barbour wary of immigration law for state

Even as his state's Republican Lt. Gov. Phil Bryant pushes for an Arizona-like immigration law, Haley Barbour isn't so sure he's heading in the right direction.

Barbour tells WCBI in Mississippi.

"Arizona has got a much different law because they've got this enormous border that they have to deal with literally on a daily basis.

So for me, while I'm comfortable with the Arizona law I don't see the need for Mississippi."

42 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:52:51am

Bob Inglis happily went on the merry go -round attacking to destroy Clinton.

His whole career, he has been anti education, pro corporate welfare and a frequent thrower of bones to the Christian right.It is a sign of the times that this guy is the conscience of the GOP.

43 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:53:47am

re: #38 RadicalModerate

Oh my. The rightwing blogosphere is about to go nuclear on this one.

The Defense Secretary Closes A Command

Robert Gates is currently giving a statement at the Pentagon where he is ordering removal of the JFCOM, and announcing streamlining of both employee and contractor workforce, and will be migrating the IT departments of each military division under a common umbrella versus being maintained as separate entites.

It's all part of the plan to give the country to Martian Muslim Maniacs from Mexico with monster M-16s!

44 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:54:09am

Bob Inglis said:

"I was at a breakfast and somebody said the President wasn't patriotic," Inglis says. "I knew I was supposed to go along. Instead, I got up and said, 'That's simply not true. I disagree with this President most of the time, but he loves his country.' Afterward a big Republican operative in our state grabbed me and said, 'Don't give him that.' I said, 'Give him what?' And the guy said, 'That he's patriotic.'

That attitude in the local party here ended up like this [from an email I received last week]:

I recently asked for help with our Fund Raising events noted below. We didn't get one person to Volunteer! This is not how we are going to win this year! There are Young Men and Women all over the Globe putting their Lives on the line for our Great Country. Yet we can't find a few Volunteers to man a Booth at a Fair or other Event? So many of our Young are willing to put it all on the line for this Country, yet we can't get a few Volunteers to help save our Country from a Socialist Take Over?
45 MotorCityBadboy  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:55:21am

Don't try to get a conscience now... If you had spoken the truth earlier you could have possibly received some independent support and maybe won your primary. Too bad, so sad.

46 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:55:26am

re: #41 cronus

"So for me, while I'm comfortable with the Arizona law I don't see the need for Mississippi."

The border fence is a pretty big one to straddle.

47 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:55:58am

re: #42 LudwigVanQuixote

Bob Inglis happily went on the merry go -round attacking to destroy Clinton.

His whole career, he has been anti education, pro corporate welfare and a frequent thrower of bones to the Christian right.It is a sign of the times that this guy is the conscience of the GOP.

There's that - but there's also the fact that the voters in his district sent him packing because he didn't represent their interests - Inglis voted for TARP, when his district was opposed - among other things. By taking Inglis at his word, Lupica ignores the problems Inglis had with convincing his constituents that he deserved another term in office.

48 cronus  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:56:19am

re: #38 RadicalModerate

Oh my. The rightwing blogosphere is about to go nuclear on this one.

The Defense Secretary Closes A Command

Robert Gates is currently giving a statement at the Pentagon where he is ordering removal of the JFCOM, and announcing streamlining of both employee and contractor workforce, and will be migrating the IT departments of each military division under a common umbrella versus being maintained as separate entites.

/Why does Robert Gates want the terrorists to win?

49 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:56:51am

Good news for Israel (and US taxpayers) from Congress:

Congress halts aid to Lebanese army
By HILARY LEILA KRIEGER
08/09/2010 21:06
Nita Lowey, chair of key committee, blocks military assistance to LAF.
WASHINGTON – A senior US Congresswoman is blocking funding to the Lebanese military following its attack on Israeli soldiers last week.
...
"This incident was tragic and entirely avoidable. US assistance is intended to enhance our safety and that of our allies,” Rep. Nita Lowey (D-New York) said Monday.
"For the past few years, the US and the international community looked the other way as the lines between Hezbollah and the Lebanese military and government became blurred,” he charged. “But the days of ignoring the LAF’s provocations against Israel and protection of Hezbollah in Southern Lebanon are over.”
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
50 BishopX  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:58:06am

re: #49 Spare O'Lake

Didn't we start funding the Lebanese to cut down on the Syrian influence there?

51 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:58:09am

re: #44 wrenchwench

I recently asked for help with our Fund Raising events noted below. We didn't get one person to Volunteer! This is not how we are going to win this year! There are Young Men and Women all over the Globe putting their Lives on the line for our Great Country. Yet we can't find a few Volunteers to man a Booth at a Fair or other Event? So many of our Young are willing to put it all on the line for this Country, yet we can't get a few Volunteers to help save our Country from a Socialist Take Over?

Note the wonky arbitrary seventeenth-century capitalization of nouns.

Someone's been huffing on too much Pilgrim's Progress.

52 theheat  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 11:59:20am

re: #44 wrenchwench

You know another mark of the beast? Random capitalization of nouns. I get a lot of rabid right wing and fundie emails, and this is one of the most common earmarks.

I find it amusing, because so many of these hard line peeps act as though today's high school grads are all illiterate, and can't wait to beat you over the head with how smart people used to be. If that's true, what do you call someone who compulsively capitalizes nouns in all their crazy fundie pseudo patriot conspiracy emails?

I call them fucking crazy. YMMV.

53 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:00:28pm

re: #52 theheat

They do that to put Emphasis on the Importance of What they're Saying. If You Know What I Mean.

/Gahhh, the grammarian in me just broke down and cried at that post

54 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:00:28pm

re: #7 thedopefishlives
Great analogy , Dopefish.

55 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:02:20pm

re: #50 BishopX

Didn't we start funding the Lebanese to cut down on the Syrian influence there?

Iran and its surrogate Hezbollah is by far the greatest regional threat at this time.

56 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:03:07pm

re: #52 theheat

You know another mark of the beast? Random capitalization of nouns. I get a lot of rabid right wing and fundie emails, and this is one of the most common earmarks.

I find it amusing, because so many of these hard line peeps act as though today's high school grads are all illiterate, and can't wait to beat you over the head with how smart people used to be. If that's true, what do you call someone who compulsively capitalizes nouns in all their crazy fundie pseudo patriot conspiracy emails?

I call them fucking crazy. YMMV.

I blame homeschooling. They read the KJV in the Original, with the funny Black Letters and the weird Spelling.

57 jamesfirecat  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:03:12pm

re: #40 Fozzie Bear

Obama's left flank is WIDE open, as he is, on many issues, more conservative than it was acceptable for GOP candidates to be a decade ago.

Stupid Overton Window that Reagen shifted so far to the right.... It'll shift back at some point, it'll shift back and then, and then, BWAHAHAHA....

[Link: www.thepaincomics.com...]

58 lostlakehiker  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:05:11pm

re: #10 kirkspencer

The sad thing is that it's going to be a while before they're no longer an issue.

The Republicans will make gains in the House and Senate this year. The TPers will believe it's because most people agree with them. The job mess, the recession, the recoil from the heavy Dem gains of the last couple of elections, all are insignificant in their eyes.

They'll be more strident from November 2010 through November 2012. I still think it unlikely they'll take the presidency (due to the candidates) or more Congressional seats (due to their stridency). That'll bring on the "We were robbed" phase, something I'm looking forward to only in that it's the beginning of the end for them.

I'd not be surprised to see them being a voice in the 2020 presidential elections. Saddened, but not surprised.

Good take. Republicans are bent on snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Tea Parties were good clean fun for a few months, but sobriety must eventually set in. A more disciplined, adult approach, please. Call it the Inglis-immersion program?

59 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:05:45pm

re: #54 Pass The Moonbaticide


Great analogy , Dopefish.

It just goes to prove: Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

I always throw in one of my all-time favorite quotes with that one: History repeats itself. Historians repeat each other.

60 Neutral President  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:06:06pm

re: #52 theheat

If that's true, what do you call someone who compulsively capitalizes nouns

Someone who had that burned into their head in German class. It's a hard habit to break.

61 cronus  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:06:28pm

re: #38 RadicalModerate

Oh my. The rightwing blogosphere is about to go nuclear on this one.

The Defense Secretary Closes A Command

Robert Gates is currently giving a statement at the Pentagon where he is ordering removal of the JFCOM, and announcing streamlining of both employee and contractor workforce, and will be migrating the IT departments of each military division under a common umbrella versus being maintained as separate entites.

It looks like Mark Warner and Jim Webb are going to beat the rightwing to the punch on this one. Albeit for the usual parochial reasons.

Big fights await DoD cuts

The next day, six members of the Virginia congressional delegation — including Sens. Mark Warner and Jim Webb, both Democrats — took aim at the notion of shutting JFCOM, which employs thousands in the Norfolk, Va., area.

62 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:06:49pm

re: #59 thedopefishlives

It just goes to prove: Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

I always throw in one of my all-time favorite quotes with that one: History repeats itself. Historians repeat each other.

History repeats itself. The first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.

What about the third time, though?

History in drag.

63 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:07:49pm

re: #60 ArchangelMichael

Someone who had that burned into their head in German class. It's a hard habit to break.

Yeah but with German, it's ALL nouns, not just random ones.

64 RadicalModerate  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:07:51pm

Sarah Palin pays a visit to Alaska - unfortunately for her, not all Alaskans are big fans of hers. Choice quote: "When cash was waved in front of your face, you quit".

65 lostlakehiker  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:07:55pm

re: #56 Cato the Elder

I blame homeschooling. They read the KJV in the Original, with the funny Black Letters and the weird Spelling.

You shouldn't. Home schooled kids win more than their share of spelling bees. Now maybe homeschooling falls short in the biology department, but when it comes to grammar, it's quite the opposite.

66 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:08:24pm

Once again I am struck by the similarity between the Bolsheviks and the Tea Party. Both tended to punish those who didn't bend to their ideological purity.

By the way, I read another article about Inglis recently where he apologized for his participating in the witch hunt against Clinton.

I hated Bill Clinton. I wanted to destroy him. Then I had six years out [after leaving Congress in 1999] to look back on that, and now I would confess it as a sin. It is just wrong to want to destroy another human being and to spend so much time and effort trying to destroy Bill Clinton—some of it with really suspect information. We went on and on about Whitewater. We had talked about the strange things about Vince Foster's death. The drug dealing at Mena airport. So in the six years I was out, I looked back and realized, "Oh what a waste."

67 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:08:34pm

re: #10 kirkspencer

The sad thing is that it's going to be a while before they're no longer an issue.

The Republicans will make gains in the House and Senate this year. The TPers will believe it's because most people agree with them. The job mess, the recession, the recoil from the heavy Dem gains of the last couple of elections, all are insignificant in their eyes.

They'll be more strident from November 2010 through November 2012. I still think it unlikely they'll take the presidency (due to the candidates) or more Congressional seats (due to their stridency). That'll bring on the "We were robbed" phase, something I'm looking forward to only in that it's the beginning of the end for them.

I'd not be surprised to see them being a voice in the 2020 presidential elections. Saddened, but not surprised.

Nice to see you moving your "disappointment" target. Six month ago the left was saying there was no way the GOP will make any gains in 2010... now it's "unlikely they'll take the presidency" in 2012 and you have already written their excuse for them. You've got this all figured out for the GOP.

Thanks.

68 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:08:49pm

re: #62 Cato the Elder

"History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme" -S.L. Clemens.

69 prairiefire  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:09:49pm

re: #64 RadicalModerate

Sarah Palin pays a visit to Alaska - unfortunately for her, not all Alaskans are big fans of hers. Choice quote: "When cash was waved in front of your face, you quit".


[Video]

I read about this earlier today. Interesting exchange. Sarah, Queen of Alaska, tramples over the citizens of Alaska's rights to carry guns and freedom of speech. One of her daughter's says "Your just jealous." Snort

70 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:10:03pm

re: #66 Romantic Heretic

By the way, I read another article about Inglis recently where he apologized for his participating in the witch hunt against Clinton.

Wait, a politician with a conscience?! HOLD THE PRESSES!

71 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:11:50pm

re: #64 RadicalModerate

Sarah Palin pays a visit to Alaska - unfortunately for her, not all Alaskans are big fans of hers. Choice quote: "When cash was waved in front of your face, you quit".

But then she goes on to do the little airhead dance about fweedoms and fighting for Murkah! Sarah! Sarah! Sarah! WOOT!

72 Gus  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:11:51pm

re: #16 Killgore Trout

Important Break News Update: The National Nightmare has Ended

Not so fast!

What is Michelle wearing! What kind of dress is that!!11ty

Where did she buy those bangles?! They look like they're plastic!!11ty

She can spend 2 millon dollars of tax payers money to go to Spain but can't afford a hair dresser!!11ty

//Wingnut out.

//

73 theheat  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:14:31pm

re: #56 Cato the Elder

I suspected as much. I know a lot of homeskoolrs that can't spell their way out of paper bag, and the children are mirrors of their functionally illiterate parents. I notice this more with the ultra religious ones; the snake handlers, the fainters, the ones who speak in tongues. These types really aren't candidates for public school, since they've perpetually offended, and probably seem weird as shit to their fellow students, who would mock and taunt them.

My younger siblings attended private religious school and retained things like basic sentence structure, what is a noun, what is an adverb, etc., though neither of them compose very often. The difference was this was private school and not homeschool, of course, but it was religious-based.

Oddly enough, each of us became atheists - all quite separately - sometime during early adulthood.

74 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:16:13pm

re: #39 Fozzie Bear

That is just mean.

People are so dumb. "I like steam baths, therefore mr. fluffypants will like steam baths too!"

If house cats had evolved from tigers, rather than desert cats, they would like water.

Evolution didn't go there.

75 Yashmak  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:16:46pm

"We lost the election because we didn't present conservative enough candidates!"

All of this crack-pottery seems to issue from this idea. . .that contrary to all available polling information, that if only the GOP had been more conservative, Obama wouldn't have won.

Inglis, at least, appears to understand that it just isn't true.

76 ihateronpaul  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:18:15pm

re: #6 osprey34229

Do you think M Lupica has the best interest of the
Republican party in mind when he writes his column ?

You're talking about the GOP like it's the mob. Well, I guess it's a crazy mob...that's accurate.

Fuck Reagan's 11th commandment, it's fucking stupid and doesn't lead to progress, just corrupt stagnation.

77 Fozzie Bear  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:20:49pm

re: #74 SanFranciscoZionist

If house cats had evolved from tigers, rather than desert cats, they would like water.

Evolution didn't go there.

Well, my cat alfie, LOVES water. He will get in the shower with me at least twice a week and just sit there under the stream of water. He also likes to play with his water dish until the water is everywhere but in the dish.

However, he is extremely weird as far as cats go.

78 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:21:56pm

re: #64 RadicalModerate

Sarah Palin pays a visit to Alaska - unfortunately for her, not all Alaskans are big fans of hers. Choice quote: "When cash was waved in front of your face, you quit".

And the Brainless Wonder goes on to do a little "American Idol" jig and rub her hands together, saying, "I'm honored that you think I'm a celebrity!!1!"

Hint, Sarah: celebrities today include

Paris Hilton
Lindsay Lohan
Mel Gibson
Megan "Face Transplant" Fox
Britney Spears

The honor is all yours.

79 Gus  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:24:05pm

re: #42 LudwigVanQuixote

Bob Inglis happily went on the merry go -round attacking to destroy Clinton.

His whole career, he has been anti education, pro corporate welfare and a frequent thrower of bones to the Christian right.It is a sign of the times that this guy is the conscience of the GOP.

Rather alarming to think that he is now considered a RINO or too moderate. What in the world has infested the GOP?

80 Kragar  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:26:47pm

re: #77 Fozzie Bear

Well, my cat alfie, LOVES water. He will get in the shower with me at least twice a week and just sit there under the stream of water. He also likes to play with his water dish until the water is everywhere but in the dish.

However, he is extremely weird as far as cats go.

I had a cat who figured out how to turn on the kitchen sink faucet and also understood how to work doorknobs. Scared the crap out of me the first time I heard a thump on the door, saw the knob rattle and twist, the door open and he came walking in.

81 theheat  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:28:55pm

re: #78 Cato the Elder


Paris Hilton
Lindsay Lohan
Mel Gibson
Megan "Face Transplant" Fox
Britney Spears

Snooki, Heidi Montag, Michelle 'Bombshell' McGee, kittens that fall asleep on keyboards, puppies that fall asleep on keyboards...

Yeah, it's obviously a pretty tough racket to break in.

82 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:30:24pm

"So, where’s the Cannes Film Festival being held this year?"
--Christina Aguilera

"We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada. And I think now, isn't that ironic?"
--Sarah Palin

83 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:30:30pm

re: #80 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I had a cat who figured out how to turn on the kitchen sink faucet and also understood how to work doorknobs. Scared the crap out of me the first time I heard a thump on the door, saw the knob rattle and twist, the door open and he came walking in.

My cat, Rascal, closes the bathroom door sometimes. I usually have to check when I get home from work to make sure he's not in there. At least his food and water are inside. If I could train him to open it, well, that'd be scary.

84 Gus  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:31:11pm

re: #64 RadicalModerate

Sarah Palin pays a visit to Alaska - unfortunately for her, not all Alaskans are big fans of hers. Choice quote: "When cash was waved in front of your face, you quit".

[Video]

Cripes. It's the talking cliche machine. Hard not to notice the thuggish body language from little Miss Innocent Bristol.

85 cronus  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:31:23pm

Dan (UN/Denver Bicycle Conspiracy) Maes is locked in a toss-up race to be the GOP nominee for Colorado Governor heading into tomorrow's primary election.

CO-Sen, CO-Gov: Bennet Retains Small Edge, Republicans Locked in Tossups

86 Kragar  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:31:38pm

I feel cheated.

Basil Marceaux: I Tricked the Internet

Bare-chested Tennessee Republican gubernatorial contender Basil Marceaux is making a bold claim in the wake of his devastating electoral loss, which came after weeks of gleefully mocking national media coverage. "I hate to say this, but I set the Internet up," he told the Washington Post. "I set the Internet up so they would talk bad about me because it's the only way to get hits."

87 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:32:07pm

re: #79 Gus 802

Rather alarming to think that he is now considered a RINO or too moderate. What in the world has infested the GOP?

I remember reading freerepublic a few years ago and thinking "So this is the GOP base. Imagine if the republicans running for office talked like this!"

...and now they do.

88 Gus  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:35:55pm
89 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:38:30pm

re: #80 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I had a cat who figured out how to turn on the kitchen sink faucet and also understood how to work doorknobs. Scared the crap out of me the first time I heard a thump on the door, saw the knob rattle and twist, the door open and he came walking in.

My landlady in London had a cat who like to sit perched on the edge of the tub while you were in it, and occasionally drift a paw through the water.

I lived in terror that one day he would fall in. Angry cat+naked me seemed like a poor idea.

He never slipped.

90 Gus  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:39:38pm
91 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:41:05pm

re: #90 Gus 802

Sarah Palin's Map of the Earth

Can't be. Where's Alaska? Where's Russia? Where's the heartland?

92 deranged cat  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:41:17pm

i've read toothpaste for dinner for years, and today's is fantastic :D
Image: tea-party-tax-return.gif

93 Yashmak  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:41:18pm

I read a fantastic article about Sarah on Thursday last week. The author spoke of how he (or she?) collected Bush-isms throughout GWB's terms, but that they usually consisted of a single term/phrase/made-up-word. . .and often didn't speak to a lack of understanding of the issue being discussed. Contrast Palin, whose mis-statements appear to sprout from complete lack of preparedness to discuss entire issues, and her blathering attempts to cover up for that lack of preparedness and/or ignorance.

I have to say, I was always at the same time annoyed and amused by the Bushisms. . .even though I voted for the guy twice. But I agree with that author. After listening to Palin talk on several issues, and get caught in her ignorance on multiple occasions (on issues a potential Presidential candidate SHOULD know about), I'm totally freaked out about the idea of her becoming the GOP candidate.

It's a good thing that the probability of it happening is so low.

94 jamesfirecat  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:42:21pm

re: #80 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I had a cat who figured out how to turn on the kitchen sink faucet and also understood how to work doorknobs. Scared the crap out of me the first time I heard a thump on the door, saw the knob rattle and twist, the door open and he came walking in.

If he figures out how to work the can opener you're out of a job.

95 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:43:23pm

"So, where’s the Cannes Film Festival being held this year?"
--Christina Aguilera

"We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada. And I think now, isn't that ironic?"
--Sarah Palinre: #90 Gus 802

Sarah Palin's Map of the Earth

I think I've just fixed the real location of Dragon Lady.

96 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:44:09pm

re: #93 Yashmak

I read a fantastic article about Sarah on Thursday last week. The author spoke of how he (or she?) collected Bush-isms throughout GWB's terms, but that they usually consisted of a single term/phrase/made-up-word. . .and often didn't speak to a lack of understanding of the issue being discussed. Contrast Palin, whose mis-statements appear to sprout from complete lack of preparedness to discuss entire issues, and her blathering attempts to cover up for that lack of preparedness and/or ignorance.

I have to say, I was always at the same time annoyed and amused by the Bushisms. . .even though I voted for the guy twice. But I agree with that author. After listening to Palin talk on several issues, and get caught in her ignorance on multiple occasions (on issues a potential Presidential candidate SHOULD know about), I'm totally freaked out about the idea of her becoming the GOP candidate.

It's a good thing that the probability of it happening is so low.

Bush got tongue-twisted, but you knew what he meant.

My mother still refers to earning a living as 'putting food on your family'. It's a grammatical nightmare, but you get the concept.

Palin is profoundly ignorant, and it doesn't help that people rush to cover for her. I'm still mad at Dennis Prager for his whole, "Well, hell, who knows what "Bush Doctrine" might mean?" routine.

97 Gus  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:44:18pm

re: #95 Cato the Elder

"So, where’s the Cannes Film Festival being held this year?"
--Christina Aguilera

"We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada. And I think now, isn't that ironic?"
--Sarah Palin

I think I've just fixed the real location of Dragon Lady.

Somewhere off the coast of South Africa?

98 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:44:34pm

re: #95 Cato the Elder

Whoops! My #95 was meant in reply to #90.

99 theheat  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:44:41pm

re: #60 ArchangelMichael

Yes, perhaps if you only ever learned German, or learned English way late in life. But this isn't a common denominator of the senders of freaky Emails of random capital Letters. I can think of 10 people off the top of my head, and not one of them speaks German, took German in school, or is from Germany, but they all do the crazy random noun capitalization. Each of them is a fundie, wingnut, or both.

I grew up in a German neighborhood. I can't think of a single German parent of any of my friends that continued capitalizing nouns when writing in English.

Then there's Cato... man of many tongues. He seems to have a handle on his capitals.

100 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:46:29pm

man, you learn something about lizards every day

and sometimes those things are pretty disgusting things

101 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:46:52pm

re: #100 WindUpBird

(not referring to anything in this thread)

102 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:48:28pm

re: #99 theheat

Yes, perhaps if you only ever learned German, or learned English way late in life. But this isn't a common denominator of the senders of freaky Emails of random capital Letters. I can think of 10 people off the top of my head, and not one of them speaks German, took German in school, or is from Germany, but they all do the crazy random noun capitalization. Each of them is a fundie, wingnut, or both.

I grew up in a German neighborhood. I can't think of a single German parent of any of my friends that continued capitalizing nouns when writing in English.

Then there's Cato... man of many tongues. He seems to have a handle on his capitals.

We did, at one time, capitalize nouns in English, although I don't think we did it as uniformly as it's done in German.

Is it possible that these folks are imitating the eighteenth century style they see in revolutionary documents?

...the separate and equal station to which Nature and Nature's God...

Like that?

103 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:49:22pm

A has-been politico, Newt,
thought it'd be real cool and cute
to blow us a job, son,
by talking to Dobson
about how he likes wymyns. Astute!

Copyright © 2010 Cato the Elder

104 CuriousLurker  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:49:46pm

re: #34 Charles

OT but possibly of interest: I'm adding a feature to the LGF Blog that will let registered users choose to receive any new comments posted in a thread via email. This will make it easier to keep track of comments for any Pages you post, or any threads you're interested in.

The emails will be sent to the email in your account, so if it isn't current you should update it in the My Account page.

Woohoo—thank you!! {{Charles}}

105 stevemcg  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:51:45pm

Sort of OT, but we are talking wingnuts. Anybody seen that Sarah Palin video with the "Worst Governor Ever" banner? I could swear she says at the very end that it's nice to meet your enemy.

106 General Sherman  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:51:47pm

Mike Lupica? Seriously? Is this what passes for informed, non-partisan political analysis at LGF now? Mike Lupica is a joke. He's a hack sports writer attempting to get some "street cred" by writing a political column for the NYDN. Just because he says someone is getting "fired" for not calling the POTUS a "socialist" does not make it so. Lupica is an embittered little man whose smirking, Napoleonic complex is well-known by anyone who follows sports. Google Lupica and "Whitlock" to see what I mean.

Substantively, Lupica's article is nothing more than a press release by Inglis. Maybe, just maybe there is something more to this than Lupica's simple-minded rant.

107 stevemcg  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:54:03pm

re: #106 General Sherman

So you disagree with him? The President is our enemy? You didn't need to go all nuclear about it and make it all about Lupica.

108 theheat  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:55:24pm

re: #102 SanFranciscoZionist

In my experience, I've seen it regularly for at least 10-12 years. It's usually associated with an outrageous outrage of some type from the religious right or socons. This was even before the onslaught of really radical historical document quoting teabaggers and post-Obama sore loser Republicans.

It's been out there awhile.

109 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:55:34pm

re: #106 General Sherman

Ooh! LGF has changed! Must post a rant about that after not commenting forever.

Make way for General Sherman!

110 windsagio  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:56:02pm

re: #107 stevemcg

Maybe he just really really hates Mike Lupica ;)

/ok That's not likely all it is.

111 Kragar  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:56:05pm

Iranian rockband covers "Brick in the Wall" with Roger Water's blessing.

Canada-based Iranian rock band Blurred Vision has updated the famous Pink Floyd protest anthem "Another Brick in the Wall" to target the theocratic government of Iran. Their otherwise faithful cover changes the song's famous chant to "Hey Ayatollah, leave those kids alone." With the help of Iranian filmmaker Babak Payami, Blurred Vision also produced a music video to channel the song's anti-authoritarian anger against the oppressive Iranian regime. The video, interspliced with footage from the recent "green movement" protests, shows an Iranian woman fleeing security forces and a robed, bearded ayatollah.
...
The young musicians say they sought—and received—the approval of Pink Floyd's Roger Waters to cover the song. "From here on in, that version of the song is yours," he told them. Though Waters probably never intended his song to be about Iran, he may have had the country in the back of his mind when he wrote it— "Another Brick in the Wall" was released November 30 1979, eight months after the Iranian revolution and only three weeks after the U.S. embassy hostage crisis began.

112 windsagio  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:57:34pm

re: #111 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

That's why I kinda secretly love Iranians. Their current gov't aside, they have a really cool, forward looking culture.

113 windsagio  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:58:35pm

I just realized there's a fair amount of Lupica hate in this thread; secret orders come out already?!

114 avanti  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:58:46pm

New law could ban loveless marriages: (Onion)

115 CuriousLurker  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 12:59:36pm

re: #104 CuriousLurker

Woohoo—thank you!! {{Charles}}

*does happy dance with publicityStunted*

116 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:00:28pm

re: #106 General Sherman

Mike Lupica? Seriously? Is this what passes for informed, non-partisan political analysis at LGF now? Mike Lupica is a joke. He's a hack sports writer attempting to get some "street cred" by writing a political column for the NYDN. Just because he says someone is getting "fired" for not calling the POTUS a "socialist" does not make it so. Lupica is an embittered little man whose smirking, Napoleonic complex is well-known by anyone who follows sports. Google Lupica and "Whitlock" to see what I mean.

Substantively, Lupica's article is nothing more than a press release by Inglis. Maybe, just maybe there is something more to this than Lupica's simple-minded rant.


Hahaha okay, GENERAL, whatever, go push some plastic tanks around if you don't like the posts here :D

117 Summer Seale  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:01:34pm

Hi everyone,

Very interesting Slate article on the Cordoba House from Mr. Hitchens:

[Link: www.slate.com...]

118 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:01:44pm

“Nature abhors a vacuum.”
François Rabelais (c. 1494-1553)
Gargantua and Pantagruel (1534)
Quoting an old Latin proverb (“Natura abhorret vacuum.”)

“Nature abhors a moron.”
H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)
American journalist, critic and curmudgeon
Chrestomathy (1949)

“Most men are engaged in business the greater part of their lives, because the soul abhors a vacuum, and they have not discovered any continuous employment for man’s nobler faculties.”
Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
American writer and philosopher
Entry in his Journal, April 27, 1854

"Politics Abhors a Moderate"

O.K. that last one was made up.

119 Gus  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:01:52pm

re: #106 General Sherman

What the wingnuts and far-right have done to Inglis is not a secret. It could be Lupica reporting or anyone else. One other fact remains and that's that undereducated far-right reactionaries have infiltrated the GOP.

120 Ben G. Hazi  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:02:42pm

re: #106 General Sherman

Alright, Mr. 11-Posts-in-2-years, are you saying you don't like the message because of the messenger or just because the message is saying things you don't like?

/just flounce and get it over with...

121 Nimed  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:02:58pm

Such passion. Who the hell is Mike Lupica?

122 General Sherman  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:03:22pm

Just b/c I don't feel the need to see my comments every week does not mean I don't read LGF every day. I agree with a lot of what CJ posts, but not everything. And yes, I really, really (dislike) Mr. Lupica. My point is that the "craziness" of some of the GOP would be better served by a more honest mouthpiece. To me, Lupica is the Olbermann of sportswriters, short on logic, long on hyperbole.

123 Ben G. Hazi  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:04:14pm

re: #121 Nimed

Such passion. Who the hell is Mike Lupica?

Sportswriter for the New York Daily News and ESPN.

124 Kragar  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:04:45pm

re: #123 talon_262

Sportswriter for the New York Daily News and ESPN.

THAT BASTARD!

/What are we yelling about?

125 Ben G. Hazi  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:05:10pm

re: #122 General Sherman

Just b/c I don't feel the need to see my comments every week does not mean I don't read LGF every day. I agree with a lot of what CJ posts, but not everything. And yes, I really, really (dislike) Mr. Lupica. My point is that the "craziness" of some of the GOP would be better served by a more honest mouthpiece. To me, Lupica is the Olbermann of sportswriters, short on logic, long on hyperbole.

OK, so you don't like Lupica, but in this case, is he wrong?

126 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:06:12pm

re: #117 Summer

Hi everyone,

Very interesting Slate article on the Cordoba House from Mr. Hitchens:

[Link: www.slate.com...]

I love Hitchens. He always hits the nail on the head. And if he can't find your head, he'll still pound a nail into your brain stem.

By the way, I joined SL, but I can't figure out how to IM you.

127 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:08:30pm

re: #111 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Iranian rockband covers "Brick in the Wall" with Roger Water's blessing.

Rock the Casbah!

128 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:09:40pm

re: #121 Nimed

Such passion. Who the hell is Mike Lupica?

I don't know either, but I was afraid to say so.

129 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:11:02pm

re: #120 talon_262

Alright, Mr. 11-Posts-in-2-years, are you saying you don't like the message because of the messenger or just because the message is saying things you don't like?

/just flounce and get it over with...

DADDY 1 HATE Y0U!!!11!!!//

130 palomino  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:15:57pm

re: #31 Spare O'Lake

It is amazing to me that even in its current delapidated state the GOP is poised to win a midterm majority in the House and possibly also in the Senate.
Just imagine what they will do to Obama in 2012 if the economy remains weak and the GOP can come up with even a moderately charismatic candidate.
And now, back to our regularly scheduled program...

Not really amazing at all. Look at the history of midterms. The out party nearly always wins 2 years after the prez election. Couple that with bad economy and this just ain't the Dems' year.

Dems have won two congressional elections in a row (06 and 08) by big margins. This makes the Dems "overweight" in congress, meaning they have seats in a lot of right-leaning districts and states. And NO party has won three times in a row since the Great Depression.

As for that moderately charismatic candidate, he/she also needs to be moderately sane. We haven't seen signs of such a person emerging yet. But yes Obama might be vulnerable in 2012. Can this GOP capitalize on it?

131 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:17:19pm

re: #111 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Iranian rockband covers "Brick in the Wall" with Roger Water's blessing.

This is how we will win. The West is in a cultural war, and R&R is a cultural weapon.

132 sagehen  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:17:41pm

re: #123 talon_262

Sportswriter for the New York Daily News and ESPN.

Well, see, there's the problem.

Keith Olbermann started out as a sportswriter, he sometimes even still covers sports, Steven A Smith is a sports guy who makes guest appearances on MSNBC to sometimes talk about liberal politics in between the sports talk, therefore all sportswriters are suspect.

//

133 BishopX  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:22:46pm

re: #131 Decatur Deb

please don't say that.

The last thing we need to do is provide the Iranian regime with proof we're trying to overthrow them (not that we aren't or shouldn't be).

134 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:25:43pm

re: #117 Summer
Great find, Summer.

Interesting article.

135 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:35:17pm

re: #133 BishopX

please don't say that.

The last thing we need to do is provide the Iranian regime with proof we're trying to overthrow them (not that we aren't or shouldn't be).

We don't want their cheesey regime--just their thought processes.

136 Vambo  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:35:32pm

re: #64 RadicalModerate

Sarah Palin pays a visit to Alaska - unfortunately for her, not all Alaskans are big fans of hers. Choice quote: "When cash was waved in front of your face, you quit".


[Video]

"How is she a celebrity?", asks the cow-eyed teenage whore, who coincidentally is also an aspiring actress, fashion model and spokesperson for teen abstinence (LMFAOx10000).

Worthless fucking family.

137 garhighway  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:44:17pm

re: #130 palomino

Not really amazing at all. Look at the history of midterms. The out party nearly always wins 2 years after the prez election. Couple that with bad economy and this just ain't the Dems' year.

Dems have won two congressional elections in a row (06 and 08) by big margins. This makes the Dems "overweight" in congress, meaning they have seats in a lot of right-leaning districts and states. And NO party has won three times in a row since the Great Depression.

As for that moderately charismatic candidate, he/she also needs to be moderately sane. We haven't seen signs of such a person emerging yet. But yes Obama might be vulnerable in 2012. Can this GOP capitalize on it?

Please don't confuse us with the facts.

138 darthstar  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 1:49:15pm

re: #136 Vambo

"How is she a celebrity?", asks the cow-eyed teenage whore, who coincidentally is also an aspiring actress, fashion model and spokesperson for teen abstinence (LMFAOx10000).

Worthless fucking family.

I liked the part where she defended her mother and demonstrated her own educational level in exclaiming, "She represents America now!"

139 webevintage  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 2:00:48pm

re: #138 darthstar

I liked the part where she defended her mother and demonstrated her own educational level in exclaiming, "She represents America now!"

So far Palin's "reality" show is showing probably a bit too much reality about her and her family.

awesome....

and yeah, Bristol (is she the one who said that) your Mom represent CrazyTinFoil!Hat America sweetie, not "Real America".

140 darthstar  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 2:30:52pm

re: #139 webevintage

So far Palin's "reality" show is showing probably a bit too much reality about her and her family.

awesome...

and yeah, Bristol (is she the one who said that) your Mom represent CrazyTinFoil!Hat America sweetie, not "Real America".

It's only a matter of time before one of the Palins goes off on a profanity laden monologue in front of a camera. I think Sarah's rolling her eyes when the woman said she was a teacher will be the one thing that she complains most about on her facebook page.

141 Amory Blaine  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 2:37:51pm

Mike Lupica is a COMMUNIST writing for Pravda!!!!! Bob Inglis is a FAR LEFT LIBERAL LOON@!@!!@ they are socializing the economy and redistributing wealth to commies. Don't be fooledzz!!!!!!!! I read on the internets Obamao is the antichrist!!!!!!!

142 Ben G. Hazi  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 2:40:33pm

re: #141 Amory Blaine

Mike Lupica is a COMMUNIST writing for Pravda!!! Bob Inglis is a FAR LEFT LIBERAL LOON@!@!!@ they are socializing the economy and redistributing wealth to commies. Don't be fooledzz!!! I read on the internets Obamao is the antichrist!!!

Something like that...

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143 bobster1985  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 2:41:34pm

It's sad when you have a two-party system and one of the parties has lost its mind. I wish some GOP elder - Colin Powell, Bush Sr. - would stand up and tell these crazies to stop.

144 Ben G. Hazi  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 2:44:17pm

re: #143 bobster1985

It's sad when you have a two-party system and one of the parties has lost its mind. I wish some GOP elder - Colin Powell, Bush Sr. - would stand up and tell these crazies to stop.

Nowadays, they'd be promptly laughed out of the GOP as a RINO...to some extent, they already did it to Powell.

145 Vambo  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 2:48:34pm

re: #140 darthstar

It's only a matter of time before one of the Palins goes off on a profanity laden monologue in front of a camera. I think Sarah's rolling her eyes when the woman said she was a teacher will be the one thing that she complains most about on her facebook page.

Most telling, I thought, was Sarah's incredulous laughter every time the woman asked her a question. It was like, "I'm a CELEBRITY goddammit!! How dare she?!?!"

146 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 4:29:47pm

re: #6 osprey34229

Do you think M Lupica has the best interest of the
Republican party in mind when he writes his column ?

In the long run, yes, he does.

147 Aldous  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 4:32:39pm

Inglis only has himself to blame. The irrational nonsense he started with Bill Clinton has culminated in what we see today. Anyone who remember the Clinton days will know the sheer crap the GOP spewed.

You reap what you sow.

148 tradewind  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 4:33:25pm

Call me crazy, but ex- sports reporters who are featured on MSNBC ( I can think of another one with even fewer bona fides but equally low ratings ) don't really qualify as experts on what's wrong with Republicans .

149 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 4:34:46pm

re: #6 osprey34229

Do you think M Lupica has the best interest of the
Republican party in mind when he writes his column ?

probably not .... but it doesn't mean he's wrong.

150 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 4:38:02pm

re: #106 General Sherman

Mike Lupica? Seriously? Is this what passes for informed, non-partisan political analysis at LGF now? Mike Lupica is a joke. He's a hack sports writer attempting to get some "street cred" by writing a political column for the NYDN. Just because he says someone is getting "fired" for not calling the POTUS a "socialist" does not make it so. Lupica is an embittered little man whose smirking, Napoleonic complex is well-known by anyone who follows sports. Google Lupica and "Whitlock" to see what I mean.

Substantively, Lupica's article is nothing more than a press release by Inglis. Maybe, just maybe there is something more to this than Lupica's simple-minded rant.

I don't know if you noticed, but Lupica didn't say that. Inglis did.

151 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 4:57:25pm

re: #148 tradewind

Call me crazy, but ex- sports reporters who are featured on MSNBC ( I can think of another one with even fewer bona fides but equally low ratings ) don't really qualify as experts on what's wrong with Republicans .

Why? Try it like this:

"What's wrong with Republicans is so obvious that *even* ex-sportswriters notice it. No qualifications necessary if even *they* are picking up on it."

Oh, and you'll notice that Lupica was quoting a far far Right, soon-to-be-ex-Congressman who lost his primary because he wasn't radical enough.

So you just keep keep that ostrich in the sand thing going there, TW. I'm sure that's gonna work out great for ya.

152 lostlakehiker  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 5:17:20pm

re: #66 Romantic Heretic

Once again I am struck by the similarity between the Bolsheviks and the Tea Party. Both tended to punish those who didn't bend to their ideological purity.

By the way, I read another article about Inglis recently where he apologized for his participating in the witch hunt against Clinton.

There's this little difference. The Tea Party movement doesn't kill defectors and other enemies, and it doesn't literally torture people so as to win "confessions."

There's a gap, but not an infinite gap, between going Full Godwin and calling somebody a Nazi, and going Limited Godwin and calling them Bolshevik.

153 stevemcg  Mon, Aug 9, 2010 5:19:59pm

I'm still positive she says "It's nice to meet your enemy" at the very end.

154 PAUL_MACDONALD  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:25:53am

re: #76 ihateronpaul

Fuck Reagan's 11th commandment, it's fucking stupid and doesn't lead to progress, just corrupt stagnation.

I don't think that Ronaldus would have had a problem going after these idiots. He was part of the movement that ousted them in the first place. Those few that remain of that era have no problem calling these Bircheresque cranks exactly what they are.

155 Dan M.  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:38:01am

Why is this even a story? The primary was a month and a half ago. Bob Inglish can kindly get over it.


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