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Hatemonger Pamela Geller has apparently founded an “umbrella” group called the American Freedom Defense Initiative for her anti-Muslim activities, with an attorney named David Yerushalmi, and they are going to be allowed to put their misleading anti-Cordoba billboard on MTA buses in New York. Geller and Yerushalmi are using the First Amendment to justify their demand to place this distorted advertisement — the same amendment that they deny applies to Muslim Americans. Here’s video from New York’s KPIX.

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This is a good time for some background information on Pamela Geller’s associate David Yerushalmi, who is an advocate for criminalizing Islam itself and imposing 20-year sentences on practicing Muslims. Yes, really.

He’s not simply anti-Muslim, though; Yerushalmi also wrote a now-infamous article titled “On Race: A Tentative Discussion, Part II,” in which he advocated a return to a pre-Bill of Rights Constitution, and the restriction of voting rights to white male land-owners. Again … yes, really.

Here’s a lengthy article at Talk To Action on the bizarre views and causes of David Yerushalmi: Anti-Semitic White-Supremacist Orthodox Jew Tries To Ban Islam In US.

Yerushalmi has deleted as much evidence of the “On Race” article as he could; he removed it from the Internet Archive and the Google cache, and put his entire website behind a registration wall. But here’s a PDF that contains the full article, and it’s as ugly and twisted a piece of racism as anything I’ve ever seen. Yerushalmi opens by calling Islam “an evil religion,” and “blacks … the most murderous of peoples.”

A quote:

There is a reason the founding fathers did not give women or black slaves the right to vote. You might not agree or like the idea but this country’s founders, otherwise held in the highest esteem for their understanding of human nature and its affect on political society, certainly took it seriously. Why is that? Were they so flawed in their political reckonings that they manhandled the most important aspect of a free society - the vote? If the vote counts for so much in a free and liberal democracy as we “know” it today, why did they limit the vote so dramatically?

David Yerushalmi, however, comes off looking almost sane next to another founding board member of Pamela Geller’s American Freedom Defense Initiative, John Joseph Jay. The Southern Poverty Law Center has a blog post about Jay’s almost unbelievable anti-Muslim rants: Prime Islam-Basher Pam Geller Outdone by Colleague.

According to the Daily Kos, AFDI board member John Joseph Jay recently has posted a series of truly vicious anti-Muslim rants — apparently without the benefit of a capital letter function on his computer.  “if islam kills non-believers as a matter of religious doctrine, then why should muslims expect to be free of retribution in the name of those islam kills?” he wrote. “why should muslims get a free pass? if it is right for muslims to kill non-believers, then why is it no less right for the rest of us to kill muslims?”

In another screed, the Daily Kos said Jay wrote: “there are, friends, no ‘innocent’ muslims. they obey. and they obey the dictates of the koran on jihad. and, they obey the commands of local clerics. in this, they have no choice. because, friends, there is no ‘free will’ in islam, one obeys  the dictates of allah.”

Last month, Jay expanded on his advocacy of violence against Muslims to include people in positions of power. He commented on his blog about a magazine article regarding America’s “ruling class” as follows: “friends, if you wish to retain and preserve individual virtue, you are going to have to kill in order to do so. if we are to excise the ruling class, it will be with violence. they used violence to attain their privilege, they use it nakedly in the form of the s.i.e.u. [an apparent reference to the SEIU, the Service Employees International Union] and black panther thugs in elective politics to maintain it, they contemplate relocation camps to preserve it. … buy guns. buy ammo. be jealous of your liberties. and understand, you are going to have to kill folks, your uncles, your sons and daughters, to preserve those liberties.”

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569 comments

1 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:20:15pm

This Jay guy sounds schizophrenic

2 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:20:24pm

It is nice of them to form into handy groups for clean criticism >>

3 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:21:59pm

I think this is the grand prize: a position so crazy it is impossible to out-crazy it.

We may have a winner.

4 Locker  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:22:44pm

Charles you are on a content tear lately. Going forward you are no longer allowed to go on vacation as I’ve become accustom to these meaty posts. Some of the cookbook revenue should be dedicated to pizzas and jolt cola so you can stay at the helm longer.

5 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:23:09pm

re: #3 Fozzie Bear

But is it Timecube CraZy?

6 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:24:13pm

I have to say, there is nothing that makes me more skeptical of someone’s political motives when the group’s name contain the words: “Family”, “Friends of”, or “Freedom.”

7 tradewind  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:24:53pm

re: #2 windsagio
The downside is that if they begin to make Geller appear reasonable in contrast, the train has left the station.

8 Eclectic Infidel  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:25:07pm

“Anti-Semitic White-Supremacist Orthodox Jew Tries To Ban Islam In US.”

That’s an ugly sentence. Bad for New York. Bad for the U.S. Bad for Israel

Sadly, I’ve recently run across a similar person - she’s a Kahanist. They do exist.

9 Cineaste  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:25:14pm
“they obey the commands of local clerics. in this, they have no choice. because, friends, there is no ‘free will’ in islam, one obeys the dictates of allah.”

Now let’s replace “clerics” with “priests” and “islam” with “catholicism” and “allah” with “jesus”

Shoe, meet the other foot.

10 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:25:22pm

re: #7 tradewind

I am sure she’ll meet them halfway :p

11 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:25:44pm

re: #3 Fozzie Bear

I think this is the grand prize: a position so crazy it is impossible to out-crazy it.

We may have a winner.

Don’t worry, somebody will find ways to plumb new depths of lunacy. I once thought that the Troofers were the epitome of utter craziness, believing in a conspiracy so large and convoluted that there was absolutely no way it could be hidden so well. Then Obama got elected and I found how low that bar had been set.

12 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:25:50pm

re: #6 SinisterBen

Like the old Canard about countries with “Democratic” in their name.

13 jaunte  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:26:28pm

“Look! You fools! You’re in danger! Can’t you see? They’re after you! They’re after all of us! Our wives…our children…they’re here already! You’re next!”

— Invasion of the Body Snatchers

14 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:26:42pm

re: #12 windsagio

Like the old Canard about countries with “Democratic” in their name.

Particularly if followed by “Republic.”

15 Cineaste  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:26:58pm

re: #8 eclectic infidel

Sadly, I’ve recently run across a similar person - she’s a Kahanist. They do exist.

Those people are ugly. Rabin testifies to that.

16 Cineaste  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:28:42pm

re: #11 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Don’t worry, somebody will find ways to plumb new depths of lunacy. I once thought that the Troofers were the epitome of utter craziness, believing in a conspiracy so large and convoluted that there was absolutely no way it could be hidden so well. Then Obama got elected and I found how low that bar had been set.

Gamal Abdel Nassar had a great quote:

“The genius of you Americans is that you never make clear-cut stupid moves. Only very complicated ones that make us wonder at the possibility that there may be something to them we are missing.”

17 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:28:45pm

If these people win, the terrorists truly do, too.

AQ would like nothing better than to see the mosque stopped or other Muslim interests in this country infringed upon.

Geller, Yerushalmi, et al., are working for the Islamofascists.

18 tradewind  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:29:12pm

re: #12 windsagio

Like the old Canard about countries parties with “Democratic” in as their name


No kidding./

19 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:29:30pm

re: #17 Cato the Elder

If these people win, the terrorists truly do, too.

AQ would like nothing better than to see the mosque stopped or other Muslim interests in this country infringed upon.

Geller, Yerushalmi, et al., are working for the Islamofascists.

Exactly, this is just what they were hoping Americans would do. Go all chicken little.

20 CuriousLurker  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:29:45pm
American Freedom Defense Initiative

These days whenever I see any organization that has patriotic sounding words in its name I immediately get suspicious.

21 Cineaste  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:29:48pm

re: #18 tradewind

No kidding./

Oh brother.

22 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:30:23pm

re: #21 Cineaste

Oh brother.

PAY ATTENTION TO ME! It is sad really.

23 tradewind  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:30:33pm

re: #20 CuriousLurker
Like ’ Organizing For America ‘.

24 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:31:32pm

re: #23 tradewind

Like ’ Organizing For America ‘.

/my fav, stimulus funding…

25 tradewind  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:31:45pm

re: #22 SinisterBen
Don’t cry.
Think this way ’ Screw ‘em if they can’t take a joke’.

26 Randall Gross  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:32:10pm

The less relevant they’ve become in US political circles the more open with their outright racism and bigotry they get. They don’t care about the associations being seen anymore because if the Republicans are so desperate that they allow the bircher and neoconfederate bigots back into the ever shrinking tent they know there’s room for them.

Many masks have fallen since the election, and the GOP has gone from Big tent to pup tent.

27 webevintage  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:32:34pm

I really wish all the bigots would just crawl back under whatever rocks they were hiding under until Obama was elected and let us all live in relative peace.

28 tradewind  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:32:40pm

re: #22 SinisterBen
Really, there’s no need to shout in caps. Everyone gets a turn.

29 CuriousLurker  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:32:49pm

re: #6 SinisterBen

I have to say, there is nothing that makes me more skeptical of someone’s political motives when the group’s name contain the words: “Family”, “Friends of”, or “Freedom.”

Heh, I didn’t see you’d written almost the exact same thing I just did.

30 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:33:17pm

OK, is it too much to hope that John Joseph Jay is not Jewish? Because these turkeys are embarassing me.

31 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:33:37pm

re: #27 webevintage

I really wish all the bigots would just crawl back under whatever rocks they were hiding under until Obama was elected and let us all live in relative peace.

No. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

32 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:33:57pm

re: #30 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, is it too much to hope that John Joseph Jay is not Jewish? Because these turkeys are embarassing me.

Bad enough that he’s (likely) human.

33 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:34:03pm

re: #29 CuriousLurker

Heh, I didn’t see you’d written almost the exact same thing I just did.

That’s cool. I blame Obama.

34 tradewind  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:34:12pm

re: #30 SanFranciscoZionist
Now I’ve got this song stuck in my head…. John Jacob Jingleberry Jones……..

35 Cineaste  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:34:28pm

re: #25 tradewind

Don’t cry.
Think this way ’ Screw ‘em if they can’t take a joke’.

I suppose that the problem is, it’s not a very good joke. The point being made was that most of the countries that put “Democratic” in their names wind up being anything but (totalitarian, oligarchy, dictatorship, etc…). The Democratic party may be any number of things but it is Democratic. Or are you one of the crowd that likes to cry tyranny and dictatorship about a democratically elected leader that has policies that disagree with you?

36 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:34:57pm

re: #1 WindUpBird

This Jay guy sounds schizophrenic EVIL.

37 webevintage  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:35:14pm

re: #31 Decatur Deb

No. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

I know, I know….

38 Cineaste  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:35:44pm

re: #31 Decatur Deb

No. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

sadly it seems that they’ve latched onto the chlorophyl of the Republican base and are now thriving in broad daylight…

(over-stretching a metaphor?)

39 tradewind  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:35:56pm

re: #35 Cineaste
Serially, I’m glad you cleared that up. I had completely missed your point.

40 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:36:36pm

re: #38 Cineaste

sadly it seems that they’ve latched onto the chlorophyl of the Republican base and are now thriving in broad daylight…

(over-stretching a metaphor?)

Nah—They might kill the host.

41 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:36:48pm

Geller should have worn sunscreen when she was younger…

42 Cineaste  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:37:06pm

re: #39 tradewind

Serially, I’m glad you cleared that up. I had completely missed your point.

Good, I thought it might have flown over your head. ;)

43 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:37:12pm

Wow.

be jealous of your liberties. and understand, you are going to have to kill folks, your uncles, your sons and daughters, to preserve those liberties.

And I thought Geller was a slack-jawed naked hater.

This guy us a real peach. And apparently has a wingnutified case of e.e. cummings envy, too.

44 tradewind  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:37:21pm

re: #38 Cineaste
Nah, just misspelling it ……
NTTATWWT.

45 Randall Gross  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:37:59pm

re: #38 Cineaste

Think of them as the shit coated tail trying to wag the elephant.

46 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:38:19pm

re: #37 webevintage

I know, I know…

We will have to fight this struggle in every forseeable generation.

47 Cineaste  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:38:32pm

re: #44 tradewind

Nah, just misspelling it …
NTTATWWT.

Pot, meet kettle.

“serially”?

48 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:38:48pm

re: #39 tradewind

Serially, I’m glad you cleared that up. I had completely missed your point.

You seem to do that a lot.

49 tradewind  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:39:07pm

re: #47 Cineaste
Yes. Serially.
It’ll come to you.
Or not.

50 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:39:27pm

One of the things I find most disappointing about the seeming freedom now to spew such ugly, bigoted epithets is that I’m seeing it in neighbors who are saying things that make my jaw drop. I do try to offer respect to all until they give me a good reason not to. Some have provided that reason to my dismay.

51 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:39:46pm
be jealous of your liberties. and understand, you are going to have to kill folks, your uncles, your sons and daughters, to preserve those liberties.

This should make for an awkward Jay family Thanksgiving dinner.

52 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:41:10pm

re: #50 allegro

One of the things I find most disappointing about the seeming freedom now to spew such ugly, bigoted epithets is that I’m seeing it in neighbors who are saying things that make my jaw drop. I do try to offer respect to all until they give me a good reason not to. Some have provided that reason to my dismay.

I will never get over people who out themselves as overt racists to me. My son is half-latino, and the stuff people say around me about “Mexicans” is just outrageous. You would think people would want to better hide their stupid.

53 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:41:11pm

re: #51 goddamnedfrank

This should make for an awkward Jay family Thanksgiving dinner.

now I got screamin Jay stuck in my head…

54 tradewind  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:42:32pm

re: #53 brookly red
I’ll trade your ear worm my for John Jacob Jingleberry….

55 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:42:51pm

re: #50 allegro

One of the things I find most disappointing about the seeming freedom now to spew such ugly, bigoted epithets is that I’m seeing it in neighbors who are saying things that make my jaw drop. I do try to offer respect to all until they give me a good reason not to. Some have provided that reason to my dismay.

I hear that kind of rhetoric from my family sometimes. I simply make a more general comment about how I think people can be susceptible to racially charged fear mongering and not realize it (while trying not to sound accusatory). Their defensive reactions usually tell me that my words hit their desired targets.

56 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:42:56pm

re: #52 SinisterBen

I will never get over people who out themselves as overt racists to me. My son is half-latino, and the stuff people say around me about “Mexicans” is just outrageous. You would think people would want to better hide their stupid.

Oh, I hear that. As a green-eyed redhead I suppose that makes some feel like I’m “safe” to say such things. And then they see me with my Hispanic boyfriend…

57 CuriousLurker  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:43:41pm

re: #23 tradewind

Like ’ Organizing For America ‘.

I don’t find that bait particularly tempting.

58 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:43:42pm

re: #53 brookly red

now I got screamin Jay stuck in my head…

Here, try Rufus Xavier Sasparilla on for size.

59 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:43:44pm

re: #50 allegro

One of the things I find most disappointing about the seeming freedom now to spew such ugly, bigoted epithets is that I’m seeing it in neighbors who are saying things that make my jaw drop. I do try to offer respect to all until they give me a good reason not to. Some have provided that reason to my dismay.

It’s better than guessing.

60 mich-again  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:43:51pm

Next up: Mainstreaming holocaust denial.

61 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:43:57pm

“Looking down on the sacred ground of ground zero”? Right, more misinformation from the crackpot Geller.

62 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:44:37pm

re: #59 Decatur Deb

It’s better than guessing.

I suppose so. In this case, I often think that ignorance is bliss, however.

63 SpaceJesus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:45:01pm

charles, you really have to knock off this whole “guilt by association” thing you use against people. just because they act like nazi’s, talk like nazi’s, love nazi’s, and hang with nazi’s doesn’t mean they are nazis. jeez

64 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:46:13pm

re: #63 SpaceJesus

Why do you have to bring the AZ Immigration debate into this. ;)

65 Cineaste  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:46:42pm

re: #61 Gus 802

“Looking down on the sacred ground of ground zero”? Right, more misinformation from the crackpot Geller.

Also- this feeds into the bullshit conflation of religion and the public square. That area is not sacred. It is tragic. God didn’t do anything there and God didn’t have anything to do with what happened. If you say he did then you have to pick which God. The God of the Christians that were killed? The God of the Jews that were killed? The God of the Muslims that were killed? The God that the hijackers did it in the name of? The God of the shintos, the hindus or the buddhists?

It’s a plot of ground that is meaningful. It is not sacred.

66 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:47:26pm

OT beer question:

I’m not much of a beer drinker usually, but at 100 freaking degrees out, it seemed like a good plan. What makes a beer in a bottle go all foamy and overflow after taking a sip? I’t s happened twice now and it’s really annoying.

67 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:48:48pm

re: #61 Gus 802

“Looking down on the sacred ground of ground zero”? Right, more misinformation from the crackpot Geller.

Here’s a picture of Ground Zero, based on wingnut logic.

68 tradewind  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:49:02pm

re: #57 CuriousLurker
And I’d be upset about that if I had written your name on it and weighted it heavily before casting, but………..

69 Cineaste  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:49:19pm

re: #66 allegro

OT beer question:

I’m not much of a beer drinker usually, but at 100 freaking degrees out, it seemed like a good plan. What makes a beer in a bottle go all foamy and overflow after taking a sip? I’t s happened twice now and it’s really annoying.

Muslims. They hate freedom.

///Pam Gellar Explains the world…

70 theheat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:49:23pm

It was so much easier when klukkers and garden variety skinheads comprised the most noteworthy majority of hateful Americans. Now it’s television personalities, mainstream politicians, bloggers, pundits, book editors, billboards, radio hosts, network news getting in on the hate and barbarism - it makes the klukkers look like rank amateurs by comparison. Lazy white bastards.

71 RadicalModerate  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:50:29pm

There’s some trials that are full of boring, dry testimony, then there’s days like this. I think that I would have paid money to see this one.


4Chan Founder Moot’s Weird Testimony In Sarah Palin Email Hacking Trial

Moot was called in to testify about 4Chan and the data he turned over to investigators. But, for some reason, both the prosecution and defense felt the need to question him about 4Chan slang. Nothing in the rest of the testimony makes it clear why these questions needed to be asked, but they’re a lot of fun:

72 Locker  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:50:35pm

Yea that’s it the SEIU isn’t completely consumed with trying to keep us off furloughs and protect our dwindling benefits they are also underground kingmakers of the highest order. Wonder if they can get me a gig as head taster at the national BBQ cookoff?

73 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:51:38pm

re: #70 theheat

Hell, you already have Glenn Beck going on TV claiming that Obama hates the white culture. We are steps away from full on Grand Wizard rhetoric being broadcast on “news” channels. What the hell is wrong with these people?

74 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:51:48pm

re: #66 allegro

OT beer question:

I’m not much of a beer drinker usually, but at 100 freaking degrees out, it seemed like a good plan. What makes a beer in a bottle go all foamy and overflow after taking a sip? I’t s happened twice now and it’s really annoying.

Beer foam consists of polypeptides of five different classifications, divided by their relative hydrophobicity. As the hydrophobicity of the polypeptide groups increases, so does the stability of the foam.

Increase the hydrophobicity of your polypeptide groups and you should be fine.

75 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:52:51pm

Illinois Nazis? “First Amendment!”
KKK? “First Amendment!”
Skinheads? “First Amendment!”
Pro-Life Picketers? “First Amendment!”

Building a community center that happens to have a mosque in NYC city limits?

“DO AWAY WITH THE CONSTITUTION! THEY MUST NOT BE ALLOWED NEAR OUR SACRED GROUNDS!!!!!!!!111111”

“Freedom,” my ass.

76 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:53:02pm

re: #74 darthstar

oh, the first part was from wiki…my bad for not giving credit where credit was due…

77 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:53:29pm

re: #74 darthstar

Increase the hydrophobicity of your polypeptide groups and you should be fine.

I’m planning to do just that when I can find a suitable contractor.

78 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:53:50pm

re: #74 darthstar

Increase the hydrophobicity of your polypeptide groups and you should be fine.

Oh, izzat all? Clears it right up. *burp*

79 Reginald Perrin  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:54:19pm

re: #63 SpaceJesus

charles, you really have to knock off this whole “guilt by association” thing you use against people. just because they act like nazi’s, talk like nazi’s, love nazi’s, and hang with nazi’s doesn’t mean they are nazis. jeez

Except in the case of the alcoholic stalker troll formerly known as Trajan, Rick Martinez, aka the Tampa twit, definitely is a Nazi.

80 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:54:49pm

anything new on the menu?

81 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:55:19pm

re: #65 Cineaste

Also- this feeds into the bullshit conflation of religion and the public square. That area is not sacred. It is tragic. God didn’t do anything there and God didn’t have anything to do with what happened. If you say he did then you have to pick which God. The God of the Christians that were killed? The God of the Jews that were killed? The God of the Muslims that were killed? The God that the hijackers did it in the name of? The God of the shintos, the hindus or the buddhists?

It’s a plot of ground that is meaningful. It is not sacred.

And if it is “scared ground” why then build One World Trade Center? Like I said before that building will be open to all potential leasors including those owned by Muslims.

I often ask myself when do they plan on sunsetting this attitude. How long will these people retain their grudge against all Muslims and characterize them as if they were an entirely homogeneous group. Including going against America citizens who happen to be Muslim.

By now it is very clear. Geller, Spencer, Yerushalmi, et al, do not direct their endeavors against terrorists. It is all a calculated plan which directs their venom against all Muslims even those that are Americans.

82 CuriousLurker  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:55:22pm

re: #68 tradewind

And I’d be upset about that if I had written your name on it and weighted it heavily before casting, but…

Great! I’m glad you’re not upset.

83 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:55:34pm

re: #65 Cineaste

Also- this feeds into the bullshit conflation of religion and the public square. That area is not sacred. It is tragic. God didn’t do anything there and God didn’t have anything to do with what happened. If you say he did then you have to pick which God. The God of the Christians that were killed? The God of the Jews that were killed? The God of the Muslims that were killed? The God that the hijackers did it in the name of? The God of the shintos, the hindus or the buddhists?

It’s a plot of ground that is meaningful. It is not sacred.

Tell that to Giuliani and the WTC cross. The reason that so many Christians think the site, the tragedy, its pain and suffering belongs to them and them alone is because Saint Rudy personally expedited their symbolic claim over it.

84 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:56:18pm

re: #80 albusteve

anything new on the menu?

No, Steve, same old boring old.

85 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:58:04pm

Note, please, the visual lie in Geller’s bus ads:

The Twin Towers are shown from quite a distance away, where they still dominate the skyline.

The “mega-mosque”, all 13 storeys of it, is photographed (and Photoshopped) from below, to look like it would loom over the Towers themselves, if they still stood. And it has a giant crescent-and-star on it, which is pure fiction at this point.

Propaganda that would make Goebbels proud. I wonder how many of Geller’s family realize what a shanda she is.

86 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:58:08pm

re: #78 allegro

Oh, izzat all? Clears it right up. *burp*

Glad to be of help. Transversely, you can maximize the absence of hydrophobicity by reducing the exposure to oxygen of the polypeptides…the best way to do this is to hold the bottom of the can against your upper front teeth, punch the can upward against your jaw, then pop the top and tilt your head back simultaneously, thereby utilizing the propulsive force of the expanding carbon dioxide to facilitate the contents of the beer directly into your throat whilst making a singular swallowing motion.

Shot-gunning beer…it’s not just for children.

87 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:58:17pm

re: #80 albusteve

anything new on the menu?

lost a couple from the class of 94…

88 mich-again  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:58:58pm

How long till Antione Dodson has a TV show? I’d watch it.

89 Eclectic Infidel  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:59:31pm

re: #66 allegro

OT beer question:

I’m not much of a beer drinker usually, but at 100 freaking degrees out, it seemed like a good plan. What makes a beer in a bottle go all foamy and overflow after taking a sip? I’t s happened twice now and it’s really annoying.

Are you storing the beer upright in your fridge? Best thing to do is store it upright, and upon opening, pour it immediately into a glass. I think the foam has to do with the carbonation, but I’m not all that knowledgeable about the actual mechanics.

90 Cineaste  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 2:59:56pm

re: #83 goddamnedfrank

Tell that to Giuliani and the WTC cross. The reason that so many Christians think the site, the tragedy, its pain and suffering belongs to them and them alone is because Saint Rudy personally expedited their symbolic claim over it.

Yes. And also because we Jews all were on the phone tree that told us to stay home that day because, haven’t you heard, no Jews died that day…

////

91 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:00:15pm

re: #87 brookly red

lost a couple from the class of 94…

AGAIN !!!

(((shhh ,, whisper into my ear ,,, who’s outtahere!!)))

92 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:00:33pm

re: #86 darthstar

“… tilt your head back simultaneously, thereby utilizing the propulsive force of the expanding carbon dioxide to facilitate the contents of the beer directly into your throat whilst making a singular swallowing motion.

Dayum. And I thought my boyfriend was demanding… /

93 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:01:24pm

re: #92 allegro

Dayum. And I thought my boyfriend was demanding… /

leggo of my ears ,,,, I know what I’m doing!!!

94 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:01:48pm

re: #89 eclectic infidel

pour it immediately into a glass.

You make this sound so easy, but it took me years to learn a good pour for Guinness.

95 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:02:56pm

re: #94 SinisterBen

You make this sound so easy, but it took me years to learn a good pour for Guinness.

Guinness: crack open can, listen to lovely sound of nitrogen pellet releasing, then pour directly into bottom of glass until about 2/3 full…give it about 10-20 seconds to settle, then add remaining contents.

96 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:03:08pm

re: #94 SinisterBen

You make this sound so easy, but it took me years to learn a good pour for Guinness.

Very Zen to put such effort into something that is so quickly undone.

97 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:03:17pm
This is a good time for some background information on Pamela Geller’s associate David Yerushalmi, who is an advocate for criminalizing Islam itself and imposing 20-year sentences on practicing Muslims. Yes, really.

Holy shit, dude. I have my issues with Islam, as I do with all organized religions, but that is friggin’ odious.

98 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:03:41pm

re: #89 eclectic infidel

“pour it immediately into a glass.”

Now, there’s a solution. My Miller Vesuvius went off a third time. A glass it is.

Sheesh, all this for a damn beer.

99 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:03:46pm

I know that every group has its assholes.

I never judge an entire group of people by their defective members.

But, whenever I see someone like Yerushalmi, my heart breaks. For a Jew to be so twisted and so bigoted, so unflinchingly racist hurts me.

Of all the people on the planet who should have the lesson about racism and stereotyping clear it is us. Of all the people who should get the message about not spreading lies to defame whole peoples, it is us.

He actually said that blacks are the most murderous?

I really can’t believe that. I really can’t. I mean I believe what I see was written, but I am in a bit of shock, that a fellow Jew could be that much of a rasha.

We can only hope that he repents and becomes more civilized after the initiatives of utter monsters like him are defeated.

100 Eclectic Infidel  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:04:38pm

re: #94 SinisterBen

You make this sound so easy, but it took me years to learn a good pour for Guinness.

You know, as with anything, pouring Guinness, oral sex (see above), and cooking up that perfect steak, it’s all about practice, practice, practice.

101 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:04:53pm

///If you believe Kos at least…..

102 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:05:35pm

re: #101 jamesfirecat

///If you believe Kos at least…

Yeah, KOSKiddies hate oral sex.

103 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:06:41pm

re: #100 eclectic infidel

You know, as with anything, pouring Guinness, oral sex (see above), and cooking up that perfect steak, it’s all about practice, practice, practice.

Oral sex? I thought she was a barmaid.

104 Eclectic Infidel  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:06:49pm

re: #95 darthstar

Guinness: crack open can, listen to lovely sound of nitrogen pellet releasing, then pour directly into bottom of glass until about 2/3 full…give it about 10-20 seconds to settle, then add remaining contents.

Yes. Guinness requires that extra touch. The best pint of this liquid gold I ever consumed was at room temperature. Some IPAs are decent at that temperature too.

105 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:08:36pm

re: #103 Decatur Deb

Upding for Mario Lanza. I loved that guy.

106 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:08:39pm

re: #20 CuriousLurker

These days whenever I see any organization that has patriotic sounding words in its name I immediately get suspicious.

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the Bible.” — Sinclair Lewis

107 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:09:19pm

re: #104 eclectic infidel

Yes. Guinness requires that extra touch. The best pint of this liquid gold I ever consumed was at room temperature. Some IPAs are decent at that temperature too.


Stout is a bit much in this heat… I got some Old Speckled Hen for now.

108 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:09:22pm

if the Mosquemongers had any guts at all…if they really believed in their cause, they storm the place, barricade themselves in an starve themselves into submission to make their point…anything short of that, I just can’t enjoy their tantrum

109 ShaunP  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:10:17pm

re: #104 eclectic infidel

Yes. Guinness requires that extra touch. The best pint of this liquid gold I ever consumed was at room temperature. Some IPAs are decent at that temperature too.

Guiness in Jamaica is completely different than we get stateside… and amazing. 6.5% alcohol and amazingly flavorful. Why we don’t get it here? Who knows. Warm please…

110 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:11:05pm

re: #106 Gus 802

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the Bible.” — Sinclair Lewis

And maybe carrying a noose, and it might be wearing a hood. I assure you though, that everyone will still act really surprised.

111 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:11:42pm

re: #109 ShaunP

Guiness in Jamaica is completely different than we get stateside… and amazing. 6.5% alcohol and amazingly flavorful. Why we don’t get it here? Who knows. Warm please…

as opposed to that perennial favorite, fancy bottled water, Red Stripe

112 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:11:58pm

re: #102 SinisterBen

Yeah, KOSKiddies hate oral sex.

Oral sex

Thats when you sit around and just talk about sex, right?

113 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:12:16pm

re: #108 albusteve

if the Mosquemongers had any guts at all…if they really believed in their cause, they storm the place, barricade themselves in an starve themselves into submission to make their point…anything short of that, I just can’t enjoy their tantrum

I get your point, but I’m also just as relieved that they’re not doing that.

114 deranged cat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:12:17pm

Interesting read…

GOP leaders lack concrete plans to reduce debt
[Link: www.sfgate.com…]

House Republican leaders sent their members a new weapon last week for their summer campaign to win back the House: a slick, 15-page document called “Tread Boldly” that demands an end to Washington’s “reckless spending binge.”

But inside, boldness is hard to find.

115 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:12:20pm

John Joseph Jay sounds a lot like one of the cretins at the stalker blog.

116 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:12:31pm

re: #111 albusteve

as opposed to that perennial favorite, fancy bottled water, Red Stripe

Why is that such an expensive beer? I like it and all, but a Sam Adams is just about as good.

117 webevintage  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:13:11pm

re: #71 RadicalModerate

There’s some trials that are full of boring, dry testimony, then there’s days like this. I think that I would have paid money to see this one.

4Chan Founder Moot’s Weird Testimony In Sarah Palin Email Hacking Trial

That is like the beck copyright case and the awesome brief filed by Randazza filed on behalf of the guy Beck was suing.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

118 deranged cat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:13:18pm

OT but i just wanted to say… the “preview” button is amazing. like seriously, it is too awesome.

119 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:13:27pm

re: #115 Charles

John Joseph Jay sounds a lot like one of the cretins at the stalker blog.

I’m new here, what is the stalker blog?

120 Eclectic Infidel  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:14:22pm

re: #107 brookly red

Stout is a bit much in this heat… I got some Old Speckled Hen for now.

Agreed (though not referring to weather in the East Bay right now - just warm with a breeze). On a hot day I usually prefer either a chilled Red Tail Ale (mendocino brewing co), or a Lagunitas IPA (lagunitas brewing co)

121 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:15:11pm

re: #119 SinisterBen

I’m new here, what is the stalker blog?

There’s a blog more or less dedicated to hating LGF.

122 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:15:30pm

re: #120 eclectic infidel

Agreed (though not referring to weather in the East Bay right now - just warm with a breeze). On a hot day I usually prefer either a chilled Red Tail Ale (mendocino brewing co), or a Lagunitas IPA (lagunitas brewing co)

nothing beats the heat like ale…

123 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:15:38pm

re: #116 SinisterBen

Why is that such an expensive beer? I like it and all, but a Sam Adams is just about as good.

I’ve been drinking RS for forty years and it’s still terrible, but it’s the idea of it, being a big fan of all things Jamaican…it’s $6 a sixer in ABQ

124 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:16:05pm

And this, right here, is why I recoiled when the “anti-jihad” bloggers tried to enlist me to support people like this.

125 webevintage  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:16:08pm

re: #114 deranged cat

Interesting read…

GOP leaders lack concrete plans to reduce debt
[Link: www.sfgate.com…]

Mitch promised they will release their plan in September when a reporter (maybe Chris Wallace) asked him what the Republicans plan was.
Mitch did not want to give any hints so as not to “spoil” the big announcement.

126 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:16:17pm

re: #110 SinisterBen

And maybe carrying a noose, and it might be wearing a hood. I assure you though, that everyone will still act really surprised.

People tend to be rather passive about these things. Typically they believe “oh it can’t happen here.” There seems to be a great deal of denial regarding history repeating itself even though it’s been proven century after century. Fascist movement always feed or take advantage of the predominant religion of a country and nationalism.

127 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:16:56pm

Now, I wonder what Raheel Raza (whose name, coincidentally, happens to be a sort of coincidental Muslim cognate for my grandmother’s so I’m inclined to like her) has to say about people like this?

128 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:17:01pm

re: #114 deranged cat

Interesting read…

GOP leaders lack concrete plans to reduce debt
[Link: www.sfgate.com…]

That seems to be the GOP’s platform this year: All talk, no substance. Unfortunately, “the buck stops here” mentality amongst voters means that the Democrats will lose seats. How many depends on how many independent and moderate voters the GOP can scare off before November.

129 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:17:22pm

re: #125 webevintage

Mitch promised they will release their plan in September when a reporter (maybe Chris Wallace) asked him what the Republicans plan was.
Mitch did not want to give any hints so as not to “spoil” the big announcement.

Heh. Gives them a whole month to figure one out.

130 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:18:10pm

re: #126 Gus 802

People tend to be rather passive about these things. Typically they believe “oh it can’t happen here.” There seems to be a great deal of denial regarding history repeating itself even though it’s been proven century after century. Fascist movement always feed or take advantage of the predominant religion of a country and nationalism.

[Link: home.cc.umanitoba.ca…]

This should be required reading in high schools. The whole book reads like a how-to for the modern “conservative” movement.

131 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:19:03pm

re: #128 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

That seems to be the GOP’s platform this year: All talk, no substance. Unfortunately, “the buck stops here” mentality amongst voters means that the Democrats will lose seats. How many depends on how many independent and moderate voters the GOP can scare off before November.

good call, it’s the prevent defense… your way ahead and the clock is running out, just don’t screw it up.

132 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:20:01pm

re: #130 SinisterBen

[Link: home.cc.umanitoba.ca…]

This should be required reading in high schools. The whole book reads like a how-to for the modern “conservative” movement.

With some Kindle-Fu, that can be imported to readers.

133 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:20:29pm

re: #119 SinisterBen

I’m new here, what is the stalker blog?

It’s a blog of banned lizards where the threads go something like this

“I hate Charles”
“yeah ,, well I hate him more”
“Oh yeah, well I’ve hated him longer”
“hell, not as long as I have”
“Huh,, I hated him before I even knew he was born!”

Repeat daily

134 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:20:37pm

re: #130 SinisterBen

[Link: home.cc.umanitoba.ca…]

This should be required reading in high schools. The whole book reads like a how-to for the modern “conservative” movement.

how about we first make reading required in high schools ?

135 Cineaste  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:20:38pm

re: #125 webevintage

Mitch promised they will release their plan in September when a reporter (maybe Chris Wallace) asked him what the Republicans plan was.
Mitch did not want to give any hints so as not to “spoil” the big announcement.

Lewis Black in 2005:

The only thing dumber than a Democrat or a Republican is when those pricks work together. You see, in our two-party system, the Democrats are the party of no ideas and the Republicans are the party of bad ideas. It usually goes something like this. A Republican will stand up in Congress and say, “I’ve got a really bad idea.” And a Democrat will immediately jump to his feet and declare, “And I can make it shittier.”

The only thing that has changed in the last 5 years is that it’s no the Republicans who have no ideas and the Democrats who have the shitty ideas.

136 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:21:22pm

BBL

137 Cineaste  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:21:25pm

re: #131 brookly red

good call, it’s the prevent defense… your way ahead and the clock is running out, just don’t screw it up.

And then comes Sharon Angle…

138 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:22:30pm

re: #137 Cineaste

And then comes Sharon Angle…

Oh gentile jesus, she is a fountainhead of greatness. I use her constantly to ask my Facebook tea party friends WTF their party is doing. Oh, I love what she exposes.

139 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:22:39pm

re: #133 sattv4u2

It’s a blog of banned lizards where the threads go something like this

“I hate Charles”
“yeah ,, well I hate him more”
“Oh yeah, well I’ve hated him longer”
“hell, not as long as I have”
“Huh,, I hated him before I even knew he was born!”

Repeat daily

I think the rhetoric’s changed a bit in recent months, with the “banned and blocked” now trading “battle scars” and talking about just how shitty LGF has gotten.

140 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:23:18pm

re: #115 Charles

John Joseph Jay sounds a lot like one of the cretins at the stalker blog.

Yes he does. After reading some more of the Yerushalami stuff it sounds like some of the Jewish posters there as well.

I have honestly not felt this sick seeing something online in quite some time.

141 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:23:34pm

okay…no mass starvation
then I suggest the Mosquehaters form a human, arm locked worm from Ground Zero, to the Village, to Five Points, isolating all of lower Manhattan, and challenge the NYPD to break their Chain of Conviction…blabbing about this epic travesty on TV just has no excitement appeal….amateurs

142 Cineaste  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:24:14pm

re: #138 SinisterBen

Oh gentile jesus, she is a fountainhead of greatness. I use her constantly to ask my Facebook tea party friends WTF their party is doing. Oh, I love what she exposes.

She’s probably the only thing that let’s the DSCC sleep well at night…

143 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:24:31pm

I am so happy to see another ad for a Muslim matrimonial site with a cute Muslim grrrl here on the blog today. It sort of balances the slavering insanity portrayed in the post.

Muslims are people. They are as varied as any other group of people. I just found out that my town has a Progressive Islamic Community, not far from where I live. I’m planning to go there and do some friend-making one of these days.

That people can sink so low into racist dementia as to embrace someone like Yerushalmi makes me sick in the pit of my stomach.

Shanda!

144 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:24:50pm

re: #137 Cineaste

And then comes Sharon Angle…

That woman is the posterchild for just how far the Tea Party has drifted from the mainstream. How far out there is she? One word: “Fluoridation.”

145 Cineaste  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:24:55pm

re: #141 albusteve

okay…no mass starvation
then I suggest the Mosquehaters form a human, arm locked worm from Ground Zero, to the Village, to Five Points, isolating all of lower Manhattan, and challenge the NYPD to break their Chain of Conviction…blabbing about this epic travesty on TV just has no excitement appeal…amateurs

The Village? But that’s where Teh Gayz live!11!!!

146 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:25:03pm

re: #141 albusteve

okay…no mass starvation
then I suggest the Mosquehaters form a human, arm locked worm from Ground Zero, to the Village, to Five Points, isolating all of lower Manhattan, and challenge the NYPD to break their Chain of Conviction…blabbing about this epic travesty on TV just has no excitement appeal…amateurs

/no that’s the Teamsters job…

147 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:25:06pm

re: #141 albusteve

“…and challenge the NYPD to break their Chain of Conviction…”

Naw, all the NYPD has to do is wait for one to have to pee and it’ll be all over.

148 TedStriker  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:25:18pm

re: #81 Gus 802

And if it is “scared ground” why then build One World Trade Center? Like I said before that building will be open to all potential leasors including those owned by Muslims.

I often ask myself when do they plan on sunsetting this attitude. How long will these people retain their grudge against all Muslims and characterize them as if they were an entirely homogeneous group. Including going against America citizens who happen to be Muslim.

By now it is very clear. Geller, Spencer, Yerushalmi, et al, do not direct their endeavors against terrorists. It is all a calculated plan which directs their venom against all Muslims even those that are Americans.

As much as it pains me to say this, I seriously feel that if Geller, Spencer, Yerushalmi, and their fellow travelers had their way, they’d push for Muslims to be rounded up into camps just like we did to the Japanese-Americans during WWII (or worse).

/what a bunch of bigoted, xenophobic creeps…

149 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:25:25pm

re: #133 sattv4u2

It’s a blog of banned lizards where the threads go something like this

“I hate Charles”
“yeah ,, well I hate him more”
“Oh yeah, well I’ve hated him longer”
“hell, not as long as I have”
“Huh,, I hated him before I even knew he was born!”

Repeat daily

They’ve branched out. Lately they have been hating on SFZ, Hoops, and DF. They always hate me, Ice and Cato. They still have a thing for Irish and Sharmuta.

I am doing better this week, in their “ratings” I have two threads dedicated to me.

I feel honored.

150 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:25:31pm

David Yerushalmi and Pam Geller. What a shidduch.

Oh G-D what if they breed?

151 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:25:47pm

re: #142 Cineaste

She’s probably the only thing that let’s the DSCC sleep well at night…

Don’t forget Luap Dnar! We may just win a seat in Kentucky this year!

152 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:26:09pm

re: #142 Cineaste

She’s probably the only thing that let’s the DSCC sleep well at night…

Clutching defeat from the jaws of victory. 5 months ago, I would have purchased an inTrade for (what I would have presumed to be) anyone running against Reid. Then, they nominated Angle, and I face-palmed as hard as I could.

153 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:26:16pm

re: #144 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

That woman is the posterchild for just how far the Tea Party has drifted from the mainstream. How far out there is she? One word: “Fluoridation.”

Ice cream Mandrake, children’s ice cream!

154 Cineaste  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:26:22pm

re: #148 talon_262

As much as it pains me to say this, I seriously feel that if Geller, Spencer, Yerushalmi, and their fellow travelers had their way, they’d push for Muslims to be rounded up into camps just like we did to the Japanese-Americans during WWII (or worse).

/what a bunch of bigoted, xenophobic creeps…

You know what? If they round them all up they’ll need a giant hole in the ground to store them all in. Where is there a giant hole? Oh right… ground zero. Because we sure as shit can’t get anything built there…

155 TedStriker  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:26:50pm

re: #124 Charles

And this, right here, is why I recoiled when the “anti-jihad” bloggers tried to enlist me to support people like this.

You were wise to have been gunshy about them…

156 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:26:55pm

re: #150 Alouette

David Yerushalmi and Pam Geller. What a shidduch.

Oh G-D what if they breed?

Well breed wouldn’t be the right word - more likely a shiboleth would be made when she came to him in the night to collect a nocturnal emission.

157 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:27:15pm

re: #149 LudwigVanQuixote

They’ve branched out. Lately they have been hating on SFZ, Hoops, and DF. They always hate me, Ice and Cato. They still have a thing for Irish and Sharmuta.

I am doing better this week, in their “ratings” I have two threads dedicated to me.

I feel honored.

Last time I checked evidently I was an up and commer for being more annoying than Ice/Jimmy…

But I don’t like to go there, it makes me feel like I need to dunk my modem and screen in a tub of disenfectant afterwards….

158 Cineaste  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:27:17pm

re: #154 Cineaste

You know what? If they round them all up they’ll need a giant hole in the ground to store them all in. Where is there a giant hole? Oh right… ground zero. Because we sure as shit can’t get anything built there…

btw ///// in case it wasn’t obvious

159 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:27:32pm

re: #139 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I think the rhetoric’s changed a bit in recent months, with the “banned and blocked” now trading “battle scars” and talking about just how shitty LGF has gotten.

“That place sucks since we left”
“Yeah,, I knew it would, thats why I got myself banned”
“Yeah, but I hate him more ,,, oh,, wait ,, we now talk about how much it sucks there now!!”

160 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:27:41pm

Ohhh and for those who don’t know what I was referring to, it is worse than it sounds and I won’t explain it. Consider it the only sane response I can have to such evil.

161 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:28:33pm

re: #157 jamesfirecat

Last time I checked evidently I was an up and commer for being more annoying than Ice/Jimmy…

But I don’t like to go there, it makes me feel like I need to dunk my modem and screen in a tub of disenfectant afterwards…

That’s about right. I’ve been ignoring them a lot lately.

162 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:28:44pm

re: #149 LudwigVanQuixote

They’ve branched out. Lately they have been hating on SFZ, Hoops, and DF. They always hate me, Ice and Cato. They still have a thing for Irish and Sharmuta.

I am doing better this week, in their “ratings” I have two threads dedicated to me.

I feel honored.

Really..They still hating on me? I haven’t gone there in months and probably never will again…Sorry Stalkers..I could care less about you chumps.. Get an effen life and stick to your own blog..I could care less you idiots..

163 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:29:56pm

re: #157 jamesfirecat

Last time I checked evidently I was an up and commer for being more annoying than Ice/Jimmy…

But I don’t like to go there, it makes me feel like I need to dunk my modem and screen in a tub of disenfectant afterwards…

you love it…you don’t fool anyone

164 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:29:59pm

re: #149 LudwigVanQuixote

They’ve branched out. Lately they have been hating on SFZ, Hoops, and DF. They always hate me, Ice and Cato. They still have a thing for Irish and Sharmuta.

I am doing better this week, in their “ratings” I have two threads dedicated to me.

I feel honored.

Curious, but why would you (or anyone else they “hate”) even go and look?

Someone hates me like that and I didn’t do anything to them (except being on earth!) thats a THEM problem not a ME problem. I have too many real life worries than to stalk a stalker!

165 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:31:05pm

re: #149 LudwigVanQuixote

They’ve branched out. Lately they have been hating on SFZ, Hoops, and DF. They always hate me, Ice and Cato. They still have a thing for Irish and Sharmuta.

I am doing better this week, in their “ratings” I have two threads dedicated to me.

I feel honored.

My historical grievances against the Spanish people have been revealed.

(I’ve learned that it is OK to hate Muslims forever because they conquered parts of Spain in the Middle Ages, however, the Expulsion and the Inquisition are evidently just things I should get over. Collateral damage. It was a long time ago. No big deal.)

166 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:31:14pm

re: #164 sattv4u2

Curious, but why would you (or anyone else they “hate”) even go and look?

Someone hates me like that and I didn’t do anything to them (except being on earth!) thats a THEM problem not a ME problem. I have too many real life worries than to stalk a stalker!

attention is attention and people love attention…
at ease

167 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:31:19pm

re: #164 sattv4u2

Curious, but why would you (or anyone else they “hate”) even go and look?

Someone hates me like that and I didn’t do anything to them (except being on earth!) thats a THEM problem not a ME problem. I have too many real life worries than to stalk a stalker!

To be fair, they go to the blog to back trace the accounts. And FYI, the consequences will NEVER be the same.

168 TedStriker  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:31:46pm

re: #139 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I think the rhetoric’s changed a bit in recent months, with the “banned and blocked” now trading “battle scars” and talking about just how shitty LGF has gotten.

Which is funny, because LGF’s still beating the pants off of a lot of mainstream political blogs, traffic-wise (and frankly, content-wise as well)…among other things, it’s e-penis envy.

169 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:32:22pm

Half of the independent corner stores in my neighborhood are now owned by Muslims. They are decent, hardworking people, kind, honest, and have as much right to their places of worship as anyone else.

That the GOP, including old has-been losers like Newt and rising “stars” like Sawah Pawin, is latching on to this kind of prejudice and anti-Americanism, marching in lockstep with crazyfuck loons like the people represented in this post, makes me shudder.

Robert Spencer sits in the middle of the spider’s web, making out with Serbian fascists and Jewish people who are so chillul Hashem that they manage to discredit any valid critique of Islam whatsoever.

Why is the national media not doing more to expose these people and the maggoty rocks they hide under? Hell, I thought the MSM was supposed to have some kind of liberal bias.

170 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:32:37pm

re: #168 talon_262

Which is funny, because LGF’s still beating the pants off of a lot of mainstream political blogs, traffic-wise (and frankly, content-wise as well)…among other things, it’s e-penis envy.

I’m stealing that, thanks

171 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:33:39pm

re: #115 Charles

SIOA co-founder: kill your liberal relatives and all Muslims

John Joseph Jay sounds a lot like one of the cretins at the stalker blog.

John Joseph Jay

“america’s ruling class—and the perils of revolution” is a brilliant essay describing and explaining the origins of america’s ruling elites and the things which they believe, and why those beliefs are diametrically apposite of most of the ideals you and i cherish. the essay explains how the ruling classes have become entrenched in, do in fact constitute, america’s governmental bureaucracy and academia.

and, it explains how the democratic party has become the vehicle of this class, and exerts its power by patronage and dolling out the spoils of the ruling classes dominance. this is not so surprising, as all ruling classes have done the same. but, this article explains why this particular ruling class is so inimical to your values, and why it threatens their very existence and preservation.

and, why it threatens our very existence.

if you are to understand anything of this, you must read this essay. or, you don’t have to if you don’t want to. just don’t blame angelo m. codevilla for your “discomfort” as you are being ground into meal by the treads of an armored personnel carrier.
[…]
if we are to excise the ruling class, it will be with violence. they used violence to attain their privilege, they use it nakedly in the form of the s.i.e.u. and black panther thugs in elective politics to maintain it, they contemplate relocation camps to preserve it, and they will violently resist and suppress any and all efforts to be removed from their privilege.

buy guns. buy ammo. be jealous of your liberties. and, understand, you are going to have to kill folks, your uncles, your sons and daughters, to preserve those liberties.

Also at Loon Watch: SIOA Co-Founder: Kill Your Liberal Relatives and All Muslims.

172 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:33:56pm

re: #167 SinisterBen

To be fair, they go to the blog to back trace the accounts. And FYI, the consequences will NEVER be the same.

to be fair were you not the dude that just asked who they were? Interesting…

173 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:34:04pm

re: #168 talon_262

Which is funny, because LGF’s still beating the pants off of a lot of mainstream political blogs, traffic-wise (and frankly, content-wise as well)…among other things, it’s e-penis envy.

Hey baby check out the size of my router, it’ll give yah a strong signal that doesn’t waver if you know what I mean!

174 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:34:04pm

re: #164 sattv4u2

Curious, but why would you (or anyone else they “hate”) even go and look?

Someone hates me like that and I didn’t do anything to them (except being on earth!) thats a THEM problem not a ME problem. I have too many real life worries than to stalk a stalker!

Well, after being ignored by them for YEARS, they’ve discovered me and decided I’m a terrible person. How can I ignore the attention?

//mostly try to ignore them. I went to over to see the response to the thread about Cordoba and al-Andalus ‘cause I knew that heads were gonna explode.

176 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:34:21pm

re: #169 Cato the Elder

Half of the independent corner stores in my neighborhood are now owned by Muslims. They are decent, hardworking people, kind, honest, and have as much right to their places of worship as anyone else.

That the GOP, including old has-been losers like Newt and rising “stars” like Sawah Pawin, is latching on to this kind of prejudice and anti-Americanism, marching in lockstep with crazyfuck loons like the people represented in this post, makes me shudder.

Robert Spencer sits in the middle of the spider’s web, making out with Serbian fascists and Jewish people who are so chillul Hashem that they manage to discredit any valid critique of Islam whatsoever.

Why is the national media not doing more to expose these people and the maggoty rocks they hide under? Hell, I thought the MSM was supposed to have some kind of liberal bias.

the hated MSM’s bias is wherever the hits are…they’d rape their own mother for a few rating points

177 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:34:52pm

Oops. I didn’t forget the link. Post got a little messed up.

178 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:35:05pm

re: #168 talon_262

Which is funny, because LGF’s still beating the pants off of a lot of mainstream political blogs, traffic-wise (and frankly, content-wise as well)…among other things, it’s e-penis envy.

It’s more bitching about how they no longer were the big fishes in the pond, but were instead the minority on a site that used to be (in their minds) their exclusive domain. Too many deluded themselves into believing that LGF was not only a right-wing site, but an anti-Islam site rather than an anti-Jihad one. Top it off with the fact that hating on Obama for the crime of converting O2 to CO2 and they just can’t handle that it’s not “their site” anymore.

Good riddance to the whole frakin’ lot of them, I say.

179 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:35:13pm

re: #167 SinisterBen

To be fair, they go to the blog to back trace the accounts. And FYI, the consequences will NEVER be the same.

Huh?!?!

WTF do I care what some banned LGF blogger is doing on another site?

I can see if Charles were to check to ensure a banned one isn;t trying to sneak back here somehow.

180 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:35:23pm

re: #172 brookly red

to be fair were you not the dude that just asked who they were? Interesting…

did seem odd…but concerning stalkers and stalker stalkers, I let that stuff go

181 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:36:38pm

re: #169 Cato the Elder

Why is the national media not doing more to expose these people and the maggoty rocks they hide under? Hell, I thought the MSM was supposed to have some kind of liberal bias.

Well, we all know that argument is bunk. Can you imagine the 60 Minutes report on people like this? It would be sensational! Exposing people to this information would get people cringing back into their holes again quite quickly. However, we know the media has a corporate bias, and they will do what they can to ensure we are worried about Gay Marriage, Muslims, and Mexicans, while the economy burns around us. We should be quiet lemmings, and continue to consume.

182 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:36:49pm

re: #174 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, after being ignored by them for YEARS, they’ve discovered me and decided I’m a terrible person. How can I ignore the attention?

//mostly try to ignore them. I went to over to see the response to the thread about Cordoba and al-Andalus ‘cause I knew that heads were gonna explode.

My point is, is you didn’t go there to “look” how would you even know they ARE talking/ hating about you?

As I stated, I have better things (and better people) in my life than to be curious/worried/care

183 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:37:15pm

re: #180 albusteve

did seem odd…but concerning stalkers and stalker stalkers, I let that stuff go

Well not that I care but sometimes things just jump out at you, if you know what I mean. So folks just give me deja vue.

184 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:37:27pm

Oh darn. I must need more sleep or something. Charles already linked to that story.

185 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:37:53pm

How does one get to be so hated by the stalkers?

186 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:38:01pm

re: #172 brookly red

to be fair were you not the dude that just asked who they were? Interesting…

Very interesting for someone claiming lack of knowledge of the stalker blog

187 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:38:14pm

re: #184 Gus 802

Oh darn. I must need more sleep or something. Charles already linked to that story.

watch the watch

you are getting sleepy

very sleepy

reach into your wallet and hand me cash!

188 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:38:16pm

re: #172 brookly red

to be fair were you not the dude that just asked who they were? Interesting…

Heh, I think you missed my joke there.

[Link: knowyourmeme.com…]

189 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:38:27pm

re: #167 SinisterBen

To be fair, they go to the blog to back trace the accounts. And FYI, the consequences will NEVER be the same.

now I’m wondering how you know this, when you didn’t seem to even know what they were a minute ago

190 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:38:28pm

re: #186 HoosierHoops

Very interesting for someone claiming lack of knowledge of the stalker blog

yup, and you heard it here first :)

191 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:38:42pm

re: #187 sattv4u2

watch the watch

you are getting sleepy

very sleepy

reach into your wallet and hand me cash!

Here’s a dollar. /

192 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:39:03pm

re: #191 Gus 802

Here’s a dollar. /

It’s a start

193 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:39:23pm

re: #185 b_sharp

How does one get to be so hated by the stalkers?

they hate them back, complete the circle, and they’re off!

194 TedStriker  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:39:27pm

re: #171 Gus 802

SIOA co-founder: kill your liberal relatives and all Muslims

Also at Loon Watch: SIOA Co-Founder: Kill Your Liberal Relatives and All Muslims.

Why am I getting vibes of savagenation (among others) from this vile screed?

195 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:39:57pm

re: #189 albusteve

now I’m wondering how you know this, when you didn’t seem to even know what they were a minute ago

Yes, my knowledge of internet memes has totally outed me. I am the trojan horse.

YOU DUN GOOFED!

196 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:40:04pm

re: #183 brookly red

Well not that I care but sometimes things just jump out at you, if you know what I mean. So folks just give me deja vue.

I heard a ping in the back of my dense head

197 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:40:17pm

re: #194 talon_262

Why am I getting vibes of savagenation (among others) from this vile screed?

Could be. Also sounds like someone from Gate of Vienna.

198 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:40:48pm

re: #164 sattv4u2

“Don’t focus on the one guy who hates you. You don’t go to the park and set your picnic down next to the only pile of dog shit.”
- Justin’s Dad

199 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:40:55pm

re: #197 Gus 802

Gates of Vienna. Sheesh. I’m crashing and burning here.

200 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:41:01pm

re: #182 sattv4u2

My point is, is you didn’t go there to “look” how would you even know they ARE talking/ hating about you?

As I stated, I have better things (and better people) in my life than to be curious/worried/care

Makes sense.

I knew they were hatin’ on me because a couple of people who monitor them mentioned it. As I said, I checked in again because I knew Rodan would react to something I said on a certain thread in a way that would prove my point.

Mostly, I try to ignore them. Sometimes something sparks my interest.

201 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:41:26pm

re: #196 albusteve

I heard a ping in the back of my dense head

you learn to recognize the speech patterns…

202 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:41:59pm

re: #200 SanFranciscoZionist

Makes sense.

I knew they were hatin’ on me because a couple of people who monitor them mentioned it. As I said, I checked in again because I knew Rodan would react to something I said on a certain thread in a way that would prove my point.

Mostly, I try to ignore them. Sometimes something sparks my interest.

Do they have a functional blog themselves, or is it like a group of mouth breathing freepers with an agenda?

203 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:42:02pm

re: #195 SinisterBen

Yes, my knowledge of internet memes has totally outed me. I am the trojan horse.

YOU DUN GOOFED!

you knew who they are didn’t you?…I can’t give you credit for that giant leap in assumption

204 avanti  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:42:27pm

re: #143 Cato the Elder

I am so happy to see another ad for a Muslim matrimonial site with a cute Muslim grrrl here on the blog today. It sort of balances the slavering insanity portrayed in the post.

Muslims are people. They are as varied as any other group of people. I just found out that my town has a Progressive Islamic Community, not far from where I live. I’m planning to go there and do some friend-making one of these days.

That people can sink so low into racist dementia as to embrace someone like Yerushalmi makes me sick in the pit of my stomach.

Shanda!

I enjoyed this beautiful little movie, I think you might too:

Arranged.

205 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:43:08pm

re: #200 SanFranciscoZionist

Makes sense.

I knew they were hatin’ on me because a couple of people who monitor them mentioned it. As I said, I checked in again because I knew Rodan would react to something I said on a certain thread in a way that would prove my point.

Mostly, I try to ignore them. Sometimes something sparks my interest.

LIAR!
you’re a DOUBLE AGENT!

206 TedStriker  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:43:31pm

re: #178 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It’s more bitching about how they no longer were the big fishes in the pond, but were instead the minority on a site that used to be (in their minds) their exclusive domain. Too many deluded themselves into believing that LGF was not only a right-wing site, but an anti-Islam site rather than an anti-Jihad one. Top it off with the fact that hating on Obama for the crime of converting O2 to CO2 and they just can’t handle that it’s not “their site” anymore.

Good riddance to the whole frakin’ lot of them, I say.

Aye…

207 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:43:31pm

re: #203 albusteve

you knew who they are didn’t you?…I can’t give you credit for that giant leap in assumption

don’t worry, it won’t be long till diner time…

208 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:44:02pm

re: #203 albusteve

you knew who they are didn’t you?…I can’t give you credit for that giant leap in assumption

Dude, I was joking about people going there to “back-trace” those who were commenting about them. You know, jokes? I suggest googling Jessi Slaughter, she was on Good Morning America…

209 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:44:11pm

re: #162 HoosierHoops

Really..They still hating on me? I haven’t gone there in months and probably never will again…Sorry Stalkers..I could care less about you chumps.. Get an effen life and stick to your own blog..I could care less you idiots..

They don’t matter. In the context of this thread, people like Gellar and Yerushalami matter. Over there in the likeness of those two they have the mamzer Buzzsawmonkey and a corva named Guggi.

I am about to unload some angry painful vitriol here mixed with something from the heart. I apologize in advance to those who don’t like my more emotional posts.

But after seeing this, I need to say something.

Judaism we are taught was founded by our ancestor Abraham. The tradition holds that his greatest attribute was kindness. He cared so much for others, that he left a conversation with G-d to take care of guests we are taught. We are taught that his tent had four doors on it so he could receive the hungry or the lonely or those seeking aid or just company from all directions.

We are taught that Moses was tested as the leader because he was the sort who would go to any length to bring back a lost sheep. And indeed, that is when he came upon the burning bush.

It doesn’t mater if you believe those stories.

What matters is the lessons we are taught to take from it. Kindness to all. Desire for justice for all, hope for a better world for all.

We are taught that ritual means nothing in the absences of charity and humility. This is the ringing message of the prophets. We are taught that the great sin which cost us our Temple and two thousand painful years of exile was baseless hatred.

For two thousand years, the tradition has been about justice and hope for a better future built by the moral and upright actions of men doing what they should be doing even when it is hard, or doesn’t pay well in this world. Charity is not an option. Care for the environment is not an option. Care for the poor or the defenseless is not an option. We will not even slaughter a chicken in the presence of other chickens lest we cause more suffering. The message there is not to care for the emotions of chickens. It is if you care that much for a chicken, then how much for a human?

And then I see scum, just utter scum like the ones listed before and my heart breaks. My heart breaks that some who know nothing of us, will see them and think that they speak for us.

My heart breaks that they have fallen so far.

We Jews are one family. Somehow, we as a community failed them.

But, they are rashas. there is no way around the reality of a rasha.

A tsaddick is a holy person. A tsaddick enlightens those around him, fills them with noble ideals and encourages them to strive to be better. A tsaddika is a woman with those traits.

A rasha is the opposite. Not just a wrong doer, but one who preaches darkness and hatred. One who leads others down evil paths.

It is Elul. Alouette will understand why I was actually crying while typing this.

210 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:44:45pm

re: #202 SinisterBen

Do they have a functional blog themselves, or is it like a group of mouth breathing freepers with an agenda?

Yes.

Sorry, define ‘functional’ and I can give you a better answer. They have a blog. They post stuff, and discuss it. They seem perfectly happy, except that LGF still exists, and that chaps their hide.

211 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:45:04pm

Wow, I’ve been around here for a few months and outside of “stalker blog”, I don’t know what the blog is (don’t want to). I’m feeling left out (not really).

212 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:45:13pm

re: #208 SinisterBen

Dude, I was joking about people going there to “back-trace” those who were commenting about them. You know, jokes? I suggest googling Jessi Slaughter, she was on Good Morning America…

me thinks thou doth protest thy innocence too loudly…

213 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:45:32pm

re: #165 SanFranciscoZionist

My historical grievances against the Spanish people have been revealed.

(I’ve learned that it is OK to hate Muslims forever because they conquered parts of Spain in the Middle Ages, however, the Expulsion and the Inquisition are evidently just things I should get over. Collateral damage. It was a long time ago. No big deal.)

Yeah that sounds like the Rodent. He calls me a nazi because I am opposed to genocide. He is a truly sick piece of work.

I have no desire to go there.

214 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:45:54pm

re: #210 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes.

Sorry, define ‘functional’ and I can give you a better answer. They have a blog. They post stuff, and discuss it. They seem perfectly happy, except that LGF still exists, and that chaps their hide.

Ah, I see. I guess I was wondering if it was literally just a blog about a forum. Which, in the scheme of things would be really, really sad.

215 CuriousLurker  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:46:48pm

re: #204 avanti

I enjoyed this beautiful little movie, I think you might too:

Arranged.

I saw that movie a few months ago. It’s great.

216 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:47:37pm

re: #213 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah that sounds like the Rodent. He calls me a nazi because I am opposed to genocide. He is a truly sick piece of work.

I have no desire to go there.

but you do anyway
weird stuff

217 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:47:38pm

re: #203 albusteve

you knew who they are didn’t you?…I can’t give you credit for that giant leap in assumption

Hey Steve-o My favorite Album when I was a kid…( It helped that he saved Canned Heat in the past)
Ever heard of him?
[Link: www.amazon.com…]

218 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:48:23pm

re: #217 HoosierHoops

Hey Steve-o My favorite Album when I was a kid…( It helped that he saved Canned Heat in the past)
Ever heard of him?
[Link: www.amazon.com…]

Good god man $200?!

219 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:48:29pm

re: #130 SinisterBen

[Link: home.cc.umanitoba.ca…]

This should be required reading in high schools. The whole book reads like a how-to for the modern “conservative” movement.

re: #167 SinisterBen

To be fair, they go to the blog to back trace the accounts. And FYI, the consequences will NEVER be the same.

What do you mean by “back trace the accounts”?

220 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:49:23pm

re: #219 prairiefire

What do you mean by “back trace the accounts”?

[Link: knowyourmeme.com…]

T’were a joke.

221 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:50:22pm

re: #217 HoosierHoops

Hey Steve-o My favorite Album when I was a kid…( It helped that he saved Canned Heat in the past)
Ever heard of him?
[Link: www.amazon.com…]

didn’t he replace Alan Wilson?…not sure

222 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:50:28pm

re: #219 prairiefire

What do you mean by “back trace the accounts”?

back off I claim the bounty on this one…

223 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:51:54pm

re: #181 SinisterBen

Well, we all know that argument is bunk. Can you imagine the 60 Minutes report on people like this? It would be sensational! Exposing people to this information would get people cringing back into their holes again quite quickly. However, we know the media has a corporate bias, and they will do what they can to ensure we are worried about Gay Marriage, Muslims, and Mexicans, while the economy burns around us. We should be quiet lemmings, and continue to consume.

We should be quiet, and continue to be consumed by racism, xenophobia, fear and hatred of the Other, and desperate concern over what those people down the street who dress all funny and shit are doing.

People like these, and these, and these.

Oh, wait…not those last ones. White supremacists love them now, since they met the Harpy. I meant these.

224 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:52:00pm

re: #216 albusteve

but you do anyway
weird stuff

Sometimes when I have been told they have a particular hate on about me. Other times when I need a good cross-section of the true crazy on the right.

Some of those people were ones I knew from here. They weren’t always as vile and degraded as they are now. The slip into madness, I confess is curious to me.

I confess that they are like a particularly repulsive species of mold to me. On the one hand they are utterly repugnant, but on the other, strangely fascinating under a microscope.

But no, I really don’t look at them more than once or twice a month.

225 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:52:32pm

re: #221 albusteve

didn’t he replace Alan Wilson?…not sure

Yes..When Blind Owl died of a Heroin overdose in Laura Canyon…When Bob Hite died..Canned heat died..

226 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:53:45pm

re: #209 LudwigVanQuixote

Well said.
I fear that this partisan orgy is very soon going to trigger an ugly round of bigotry and religious conflict which will make Europe seem tame by comparison…with the Jews right smack dab in the cross-hairs.

227 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:53:59pm

re: #220 SinisterBen

[Link: knowyourmeme.com…]

T’were a joke.

I promise I will never yell at my daughter in front of the computer, she could have the camera on.

228 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:54:40pm

re: #227 prairiefire

Alex? is that you?

229 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:54:59pm

re: #228 brookly red

Alex? is that you?

Alex who?

230 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:55:28pm

re: #209 LudwigVanQuixote

I am crying after reading it.

231 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:55:41pm

re: #226 Spare O’Lake

Well said.
I fear that this partisan orgy is very soon going to trigger an ugly round of bigotry and religious conflict which will make Europe seem tame by comparison…with the Jews right smack dab in the cross-hairs.

That never fails to happen.

We care too much for justice to appeal to either extreme.

232 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:55:42pm

re: #229 prairiefire

Alex who?

Baldwin…

233 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:55:56pm

re: #230 Cato the Elder

I am crying after reading it.

Thank you.

234 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:56:06pm

re: #225 HoosierHoops

Yes..When Blind Owl died of a Heroin overdose in Laura Canyon…When Bob Hite died..Canned heat died..

I saw them two years ago at Telluride….Fito is the only one left, and he’s not a founding member…he has a book out I believe…anyway they are marginal at best these days

235 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:56:16pm

re: #223 Cato the Elder

We should be quiet, and continue to be consumed by racism, xenophobia, fear and hatred of the Other, and desperate concern over what those people down the street who dress all funny and shit are doing.

People like these, and these, and these.

Oh, wait…not those last ones. White supremacists love them now, since they met the Harpy. I meant these.

Yes, foment the fear, and excise the wisdom! The fact that this goes down so easily for people does honestly worry me. How bad does it have to get before someone says: “uh, guys we have gone too far…”

236 webevintage  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:56:26pm

Interesting post over on Balloon Juice about the Esquire profile of The Discraced Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich.

[Ex-wife Marianne Gingrich] gives a jaundiced look. “There’s no way,” she says. She thinks he made a choice long ago between doing the right thing and getting rich, and when you make those choices, you foreclose other ones. “He could have been president. But when you try and change your history too much, and try and recolor it because you don’t like the way it was or you want it to be different to prove something new … you lose touch with who you really are. You lose your way.”

She stops, ashes her cigarette, exhales, searching for the right way to express what she’s about to say.

He believes that what he says in public and how he lives don’t have to be connected,” she says. “If you believe that, then yeah, you can run for president.

237 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:57:24pm

Lolcats bin reedin my commmentz.

238 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 3:59:09pm

re: #232 brookly red

Baldwin…

Oh yeah, that was really bad. I don’t allow name calling so I would say “You are having really bad, bad behavior. I am really disappointed”
That’s about the gist of it. We do hollar, I’m sorry to admit.

239 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:00:16pm

re: #233 LudwigVanQuixote

I think most of us can look at people like that and say: “Oh look, a bigot.”
Not: “Oh look, a Jew.” At least I hope that is the situation.

240 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:00:39pm

re: #238 prairiefire

Oh yeah, that was really bad. I don’t allow name calling so I would say “You are having really bad, bad behavior. I am really disappointed”
That’s about the gist of it. We do hollar, I’m sorry to admit.

it’s all good, and not allowing name calling is excellent policy!

241 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:01:23pm

re: #231 LudwigVanQuixote

That never fails to happen.

We care too much for justice to appeal to either extreme.

Jews vs Muslims in Hymietown - Pat Buchanan is having multiple orgasms.

242 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:02:53pm

re: #241 Spare O’Lake

Jews vs Muslims in Hymietown - Pat Buchanan is having multiple orgasms.

Hymietown? IIRC that was Jackson not Buchanan…

243 Eclectic Infidel  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:03:04pm

re: #145 Cineaste

The Village? But that’s where Teh Gayz live!11!!!

Oh noes!

/On the flip side there will be some great eateries for lunch and coffee.

244 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:04:08pm

re: #242 brookly red

Hymietown? IIRC that was Jackson not Buchanan…

Correct, but I’m inclusive when it comes to anti-Semites.

245 CuriousLurker  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:04:21pm

Okay, the sun is going down and I’m getting ready to pack it in for the evening. Ramadan is due to start tonight pending the sighting of the new moon, so I’ll probably be retiring into deep lurk mode for the next 30 days.

In the meantime, I hope all of you stay happy & healthy.

Peace.

246 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:04:54pm

re: #244 Spare O’Lake

Correct, but I’m inclusive when it comes to anti-Semites.

well give credit where it is due…

247 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:05:21pm

re: #239 SinisterBen

I think most of us can look at people like that and say: “Oh look, a bigot.”
Not: “Oh look, a Jew.” At least I hope that is the situation.

I would hope so too.

If you ever take up wearing a keepah after you were not brought up doing so, you notice though that sometimes subtly and others more overtly, when you mess up, it is no longer just you as an individual messing up. There is always some of “that Jew” messed up.

And no, not everyone gives that vibe, but it is ubiquitous.

I used to reflect that this may be the real purpose of wearing a keepah. It forces a certain level of consciousness in one’s actions.

I have a tendency, which I have I believe gotten better with to vent at extremely stupid or arrogant posters here.

My beloved Miss S, simply remarked once that I could write so harshly because no one could see my keepah through the computer screen.

Women are like that sometimes. They get you dead to rights.

248 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:05:28pm

re: #243 eclectic infidel

Oh noes!

/On the flip side there will be some great eateries for lunch and coffee.

All joking aside, who doesn’t want gays to move into their community, property value goes up, you get some nice places to eat and drink, and the night life is friggin’ amazing.

Conversely, old white conservatives move into your area, you get a Neighborhood Walmart, and neighbors who won’t make eye contact and the nightlife, well, it starts at 7:30.

249 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:06:05pm

re: #241 Spare O’Lake

Jews vs Muslims in Hymietown - Pat Buchanan is having multiple orgasms.

Yeah. That fact, in of itself, should give us pause and reconsider being a bigot.

250 lostlakehiker  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:06:33pm

re: #209 LudwigVanQuixote

They don’t matter. In the context of this thread, people like Gellar and Yerushalami matter. Over there in the likeness of those two they have the mamzer Buzzsawmonkey and a corva named Guggi.

I am about to unload some angry painful vitriol here mixed with something from the heart. I apologize in advance to those who don’t like my more emotional posts.

But after seeing this, I need to say something.

Judaism we are taught was founded by our ancestor Abraham. The tradition holds that his greatest attribute was kindness. He cared so much for others, that he left a conversation with G-d to take care of guests we are taught. We are taught that his tent had four doors on it so he could receive the hungry or the lonely or those seeking aid or just company from all directions.

We are taught that Moses was tested as the leader because he was the sort who would go to any length to bring back a lost sheep. And indeed, that is when he came upon the burning bush.

It doesn’t mater if you believe those stories.

What matters is the lessons we are taught to take from it. Kindness to all. Desire for justice for all, hope for a better world for all.

We are taught that ritual means nothing in the absences of charity and humility. This is the ringing message of the prophets. We are taught that the great sin which cost us our Temple and two thousand painful years of exile was baseless hatred.

For two thousand years, the tradition has been about justice and hope for a better future built by the moral and upright actions of men doing what they should be doing even when it is hard, or doesn’t pay well in this world. Charity is not an option. Care for the environment is not an option. Care for the poor or the defenseless is not an option. We will not even slaughter a chicken in the presence of other chickens lest we cause more suffering. The message there is not to care for the emotions of chickens. It is if you care that much for a chicken, then how much for a human?

And then I see scum, just utter scum like the ones listed before and my heart breaks. My heart breaks that some who know nothing of us, will see them and think that they speak for us.

My heart breaks that they have fallen so far.

We Jews are one family. Somehow, we as a community failed them.

But, they are rashas. there is no way around the reality of a rasha.

A tsaddick is a holy person. A tsaddick enlightens those around him, fills them with noble ideals and encourages them to strive to be better. A tsaddika is a woman with those traits.

A rasha is the opposite. Not just a wrong doer, but one who preaches darkness and hatred. One who leads others down evil paths.

It is Elul. Alouette will understand why I was actually crying while typing this.

illegitimati non corrundum: don’t let the bastards grind you down.

There is always evil in the world, but as evil goes, this is weak. It looks stronger than it is because the internet affords every big mouth his/her 15 minutes of fame. There were just as many of this type in the good old days, but they mostly couldn’t afford their own radio station and the MSM wouldn’t cover them.

They’re still insignificant because they don’t get much traffic and what they get is mostly drive-by clicks from the morbidly curious.

The world, apart from its sobering climate problem, really is getting better. Literacy rates are up. Death by violence, counting both free-lance and state violence, is down. Food per capita is up. Totalitarian regimes are in retreat: Russia is no longer Stalinist, China is not in any real sense Maoist any more, and North Korea can only pull so far on its Chinese leash.

While Myanmar is a local tragedy, and there are others, they are merely local.

We have it in our physical means to master the challenges ahead. Nature has been doing her level best these last few weeks to get our attention, and from news reports, with some success. We’ll rise to the occasion.

251 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:06:54pm

re: #248 SinisterBen

Conversely, old white conservatives move into your area, you get a Neighborhood Walmart

I thought all old white conservatives were rich?
The rich don’t frequent with the commoners at Wal Mart!

252 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:06:56pm

Funky Town

253 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:08:13pm

This is pretty cool. One way to quit a job and humiliate your former boss at the same time. Look at the pics in order.

[Link: mashable.com…]

254 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:08:14pm

re: #251 sattv4u2

Conversely, old white conservatives move into your area, you get a Neighborhood Walmart

I thought all old white conservatives were rich?
The rich don’t frequent with the commoners at Wal Mart!

I think Ben might be Canadian.

255 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:08:28pm

re: #245 CuriousLurker

Okay, the sun is going down and I’m getting ready to pack it in for the evening. Ramadan is due to start tonight pending the sighting of the new moon, so I’ll probably be retiring into deep lurk mode for the next 30 days.

In the meantime, I hope all of you stay happy & healthy.

Peace.

Salaam aleikum. Pray for the NYC community leaders to have the wisdom to defuse this issue before it’s too late.

256 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:08:41pm

re: #247 LudwigVanQuixote

On a weird tangent, I was raised a Baha’i so I have been pretty religiously aware from a young age. I think it is easier for me to see the common thread among religions, than the differences. So, when I see people like these, I think bigot, not religion. Hippy mom. What can I do?

257 webevintage  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:09:09pm

More on The Disgraced Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich from his former wife:
[Link: thinkprogress.org…]

He asked her to just tolerate the affair, an offer she refused.
He’d just returned from Erie, Pennsylvania, where he’d given a speech full of high sentiments about compassion and family values.
The next night, they sat talking out on their back patio in Georgia. She said, “How do you give that speech and do what you’re doing?”
“It doesn’t matter what I do,” he answered. “People need to hear what I have to say. There’s no one else who can say what I can say. It doesn’t matter what I live.“


wow.

258 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:09:37pm

re: #245 CuriousLurker

Okay, the sun is going down and I’m getting ready to pack it in for the evening. Ramadan is due to start tonight pending the sighting of the new moon, so I’ll probably be retiring into deep lurk mode for the next 30 days.

In the meantime, I hope all of you stay happy & healthy.

Peace.

Ramadan Barak

259 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:10:09pm

re: #251 sattv4u2

Conversely, old white conservatives move into your area, you get a Neighborhood Walmart

I thought all old white conservatives were rich?
The rich don’t frequent with the commoners at Wal Mart!

No, it turns out the conservative are mostly not rich as a demographic. However, they are pretty sure they someday will be.

260 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:10:39pm

re: #234 albusteve

I saw them two years ago at Telluride…Fito is the only one left, and he’s not a founding member…he has a book out I believe…anyway they are marginal at best these days

Me and my buddy Rick saw them when we were about 15yrs old..We got backstage and spent about an hour talking with them.. The thrill of my young life…I kept asking Henry what it was like playing with Hooker and Zappa..Then he threw me a bag of pot and told me to start rolling joints.. I turned to Rick ‘Do you know how to roll joints?’ You know I don’t know how to roll.. Oh crap! Ah sir…Henry..We don’t smoke pot… A long look..Then laughter..
Canned heat laughed at us! The Bear was laughing so hard..’ Maybe you kids should go now’ he said…I said something stupid..Did you know I know every word to ever song you guys have recorded? Pause..Then laughter again…Ok we’re going now..But we need autographs cause nobody will ever believe us….Great guys..My early hero’s in music

261 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:11:43pm

re: #257 webevintage

More on The Disgraced Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich from his former wife:
[Link: thinkprogress.org…]


wow.

I just finished reading that. I believe that would be textbook Narcissistic Personality Disorder. That is one very broken person. But no worries, I am sure that his desire for certain lower value cars has nothing to do with the depraved acts he performed on them…

262 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:11:48pm

re: #259 SinisterBen

No, it turns out the conservative are mostly not rich as a demographic. However, they are pretty sure they someday will be.

As opposed to liberals, who aspire to move up from the basement into the spare room over the garage!?!?
//
:)

263 captdiggs  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:12:25pm

I find it a bit disturbing that the SPLC used a hate site ( daily kos) for their information.

264 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:12:27pm

Radical Rafe has been on a ding spree. I think he’s trying to find the limits:

But I’ve got thoughts, ideas and concerns (which is what led me discover LGF in the first place) about the advance of Islam in the post 9/11 United States. What words could I put them in here before I’m either banned, blocked or called a bigot?
265 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:12:41pm

re: #262 sattv4u2

As opposed to liberals, who aspire to move up from the basement into the spare room over the garage!?!?
//
:)

I’ll have you know I moved INTO the garage, thank you very much

266 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:13:05pm

re: #263 captdiggs

I find it a bit disturbing that the SPLC used a hate site ( daily kos) for their information.

lol @ pushback

267 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:13:19pm

re: #262 sattv4u2

As opposed to liberals, who aspire to move up from the basement into the spare room over the garage!?!?
//
:)

Yes, I have made it into an apartment myself, but those other damn libs are just so stuck on Starbucks, they will never make it anywhere.

268 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:13:46pm

re: #266 WindUpBird

lol @ pushback

At least he didn’t call SPLC a hate site.

Yet.

269 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:14:24pm

re: #267 SinisterBen

Yes, I have made it into an apartment myself, but those other damn libs are just so stuck on Starbucks, they will never make it anywhere.

Just noticed the Richard James av, nice :D

270 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:14:52pm

re: #249 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah. That fact, in of itself, should give us pause and reconsider being a bigot.

Blowing that whistle will not help.
*sigh*

271 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:14:53pm

re: #265 WindUpBird

I’ll have you know I moved INTO the garage, thank you very much

Damn, that is a fine tin foil covered window you have… where did you get that great smelling incense?

272 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:15:03pm

re: #268 wrenchwench

At least he didn’t call SPLC a hate site.

Yet.

Oh we’re heading there! Don’t even worry about it.

273 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:15:36pm

re: #271 SinisterBen

Damn, that is a fine tin foil covered window you have… where did you get that great smelling incense?

I can’t hear you, I gotta turn down this Melvins record

274 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:15:47pm

re: #265 WindUpBird

I’ll have you know I moved INTO the garage, thank you very much

Must suck when your asleep and someone parks the car on your head!

275 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:15:56pm

re: #267 SinisterBen

Yes, I have made it into an apartment myself, but those other damn libs are just so stuck on Starbucks, they will never make it anywhere.

Nice to meet you. I have not met anyone raised Baha’i before.

276 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:17:26pm

re: #274 sattv4u2

Must suck when your asleep and someone parks the car on your head!

Garages are only for cars if you care about the car’s finish :D

277 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:18:07pm

re: #233 LudwigVanQuixote

Ludwig, did you know that the great Martin Buber wrote a novel?

It is all about Hassidim living in the shtetls in the age of the Napoleonic wars.

One of the protagonists believes that Napoleon is the Gog of the Bible and gets into all kinds of serious monkey business with sorcery and stuff, trying to bring about the advent of Mochiach.

His counterpart, the wise one, points out over and over again that the exile of the Jews and the sufferings of the diaspora are the result of baseless hatred, and without doing something about that, any attempts to force the hand of history are not only pointless, but blasphemous.

I read the book when I was a student in Germany. Buber wrote in German, but then usually translated his own works into Hebrew. It is available from Amazon in English translation.

Some of the characters are unforgettable.

What the rashas are doing now borders on trying to foment and fan the flames of a war that they hope will result in the Millennium, or Moshiach, or some kind of grand conflagration that they assume will bring about their little personal paradises.

I’m cryin’.

278 captdiggs  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:18:26pm

re: #266 WindUpBird

A sampling

Kos Kids Sympathize with Virginia Tech Mass Murderer
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

The Protocols of the Daily Kos
How low can Daily Kos go? Perhaps the most sickening, hate-filled antisemitic diary ever at Daily Kos:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

Zionism was and remains a racist ideology
[Link: www.dailykos.com…]

279 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:19:05pm

Speaking of stalkers they are already mocking what I wrote about Judaism.

Since I won’t go over there, but I n=know it will be read here. This is the wrong time of year to be so hateful. There is judge in the world.

280 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:20:12pm

re: #277 Cato the Elder

Ludwig, did you know that the great Martin Buber wrote a novel?

It is all about Hassidim living in the shtetls in the age of the Napoleonic wars.

One of the protagonists believes that Napoleon is the Gog of the Bible and gets into all kinds of serious monkey business with sorcery and stuff, trying to bring about the advent of Mochiach.

His counterpart, the wise one, points out over and over again that the exile of the Jews and the sufferings of the diaspora are the result of baseless hatred, and without doing something about that, any attempts to force the hand of history are not only pointless, but blasphemous.

I read the book when I was a student in Germany. Buber wrote in German, but then usually translated his own works into Hebrew. It is available from Amazon in English translation.

Some of the characters are unforgettable.

What the rashas are doing now borders on trying to foment and fan the flames of a war that they hope will result in the Millennium, or Moshiach, or some kind of grand conflagration that they assume will bring about their little personal paradises.

I’m cryin’.

I never read the novel. Your comments on it inspire me. I don’t get he Beatles link, but then again mileage may vary.

281 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:20:34pm

re: #275 prairiefire

Nice to meet you. I have not met anyone raised Baha’i before.

Nice to meet you as well. The bad news is, my individual quest for knowledge ended my whole religious side. I didn’t come out without my scrapes though, I do like to meditate. Like I said, hippy mom. Something was bound to stick.

282 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:21:55pm

re: #278 captdiggs


And Charles has linked to Kos for positive things as well, so kindly get fucked

283 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:22:27pm

re: #280 LudwigVanQuixote

I never read the novel. Your comments on it inspire me. I don’t get he Beatles link, but then again mileage may vary.

The Beatles song is all about baseless hatred. At least that’s the way I read it.

It also contains references to King Lear, Edgar Allen Poe, and fishwives. How could I go wrong?

284 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:22:29pm

Re 279, before you comment on looking over there Steve, I was pretty certain that when I wrote that, the would post it. Curiosity got the better of me.

285 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:22:32pm

re: #281 SinisterBen

Nice to meet you as well. The bad news is, my individual quest for knowledge ended my whole religious side. I didn’t come out without my scrapes though, I do like to meditate. Like I said, hippy mom. Something was bound to stick.

Meditation is as much a mental discipline as a religious practice, in my opinion.

Pleased to meet you as well. I knew some Baha’is in a past life. Had some very interesting conversations (they were trying to bring me into the fold) but couldn’t get past the whole problem I have with all religion, namely the belief that God has a brand preference.

286 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:22:41pm

re: #278 captdiggs

A sampling

Kos Kids Sympathize with Virginia Tech Mass Murderer
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

The Protocols of the Daily Kos
How low can Daily Kos go? Perhaps the most sickening, hate-filled antisemitic diary ever at Daily Kos:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

Zionism was and remains a racist ideology
[Link: www.dailykos.com…]

This isn’t about Daily Kos.

Pay attention.

287 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:22:45pm

re: #282 WindUpBird

And Charles has linked to Kos for positive things as well, so kindly get fucked

I am sure you can see the similarities between KOS and Stormfront… I mean, they are just SO similar! Right?

…guys?

288 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:23:03pm

re: #283 Cato the Elder

The Beatles song is all about baseless hatred. At least that’s the way I read it.

It also contains references to King Lear, Edgar Allen Poe, and fishwives. How could I go wrong?

I didn’t say you went wrong. I just said I didn’t get it. I do now though.

289 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:23:12pm

re: #280 LudwigVanQuixote

You are so lucky to be Jewish

290 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:23:34pm

re: #278 captdiggs

Speaking of baseless hatred….

291 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:24:20pm

re: #289 HoosierHoops

You are so lucky to be Jewish

I suppose thank you. But I think that it is the first and only time I have ever heard anyone call being Jewish lucky. I do adore you Hoops.

292 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:24:39pm

re: #287 SinisterBen

I am sure you can see the similarities between KOS and Stormfront… I mean, they are just SO similar! Right?

…guys?

I lurk sometimes over at Balloon-Juice (which is how I discovered LGF, as a matter of fact). And the firebaggers are screaming about how Gibbs told them to grow the fuck up and quit whining.

293 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:24:42pm

re: #289 HoosierHoops

You are so lucky to be Jewish

nothing beats being a heathen

294 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:25:00pm

re: #263 captdiggs

I find it a bit disturbing that the SPLC used a hate site ( daily kos) for their information.

I find it a bit obvious that you leeean back on distractions from years past in a post about anti-Muslim crazies. And going after the SPLC in the process. Because you go after the strengths, right? You take an organization that does good work, and then you try and smear them.

This shit just happened on the Newt thread a few days ago, the pushback was making it about Clinton, because that’s how you guys work. That’s how you distract, that’s how you muddy the waters and throw up distractions and toss your cynicism around. That’s how you take real news on a blog, and try and make it into garbage in the comments. Like alchemy!

295 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:25:40pm

re: #291 LudwigVanQuixote

I suppose thank you. But I think that it is the first and only time I have ever heard anyone call being Jewish lucky. I do adore you Hoops.

If nothing else, the food would be enough reason for me.

Lox and cream cheese on a really good bagel…..mmmmmmm

Too bad I have had to cut back on carbs. Though my doc just told me my A1C was 5.8, so I’m doing pretty well.

296 What, me worry?  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:25:40pm

re: #209 LudwigVanQuixote

Just going through the comments, Ludwig. I always get here late.

That was so beautiful! Thank you for writing it! {{{ludwig}}}

297 captdiggs  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:25:58pm

re: #282 WindUpBird

It’s a hate site in my book, as the articles show and Charles has pointed out in previous postings about their anti-semitism and tacit support of terrorism.

Which is why I am surprised at the SPLC referencing the site.

I guess it’s all become “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”

298 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:26:14pm

re: #285 PT Barnum

Meditation is as much a mental discipline as a religious practice, in my opinion.

Pleased to meet you as well. I knew some Baha’is in a past life. Had some very interesting conversations (they were trying to bring me into the fold) but couldn’t get past the whole problem I have with all religion, namely the belief that God has a brand preference.

To be honest with you, that was my specific objection. We had “Baha’i Prayers” and “Baha’i Lessons” and “Baha’i Rules” to me, if it was to be a “Progressive Revelation” then everything should just be “prayers”, “lessons”, and “rules.” It would be universal, and whole, not rife with different messages, different rules, and different ideologies.

299 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:26:38pm

re: #292 PT Barnum

And the firebaggers are screaming about how Gibbs told them to grow the fuck up and quit whining.

I read about Gibbs’ comments this morning. I do believe he dun stepped it, actually.

300 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:26:49pm

re: #292 PT Barnum

I lurk sometimes over at Balloon-Juice (which is how I discovered LGF, as a matter of fact). And the firebaggers are screaming about how Gibbs told them to grow the fuck up and quit whining.

haha I am so on Gibbs side, nothing like people who don’t understand politics at all screaming about politics

301 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:26:56pm

re: #292 PT Barnum

What’s a firebagger?

302 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:27:04pm

re: #297 captdiggs

The enema is your friend.

303 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:27:09pm

re: #282 WindUpBird

re: #286 Gus 802

No excuse for that shit. Kos sucks the big one.

304 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:27:16pm

re: #293 albusteve

nothing beats being a heathen

I would guess that a good deal of the people screaming about mosques and such would gladly beat you for being a heathen.

305 webevintage  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:27:21pm

re: #292 PT Barnum

I lurk sometimes over at Balloon-Juice (which is how I discovered LGF, as a matter of fact). And the firebaggers are screaming about how Gibbs told them to grow the fuck up and quit whining.

Yeah…morons.
They are going to spend so much time whining about some comment Gibbs made and miss they shit Republicans have been saying in the last few days.
Such a waste of energy.

306 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:27:54pm

re: #303 Spare O’Lake

re: #286 Gus 802

No excuse for that shit. Kos sucks the big one.

Daily Kos is linked above in this article.

Deal with it. You don’t like it take it up with Charles.

307 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:28:07pm

re: #301 wrenchwench

What’s a firebagger?

The Firedog Lake denizens who are now screaming because Obama is actually to the right of Dennis Kucinich, not that he ever made that a secret in my opinion.

308 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:28:30pm

re: #297 captdiggs

It’s a hate site in my book, as the articles show and Charles has pointed out in previous postings about their anti-semitism and tacit support of terrorism.

Which is why I am surprised at the SPLC referencing the site.

I guess it’s all become “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”

Your pushback is butt-stupid and ass-obvious.

You know, you KNOW that anti-muslim racism is the real deal, the real tangible problem rising day by day, not some bitchy diarist on another blog, but you persist in waving your limp talking point dick around.

Lies and cynicism and handwringing about Daily Kos. What a coward you are.

309 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:28:40pm

re: #296 marjoriemoon

Just going through the comments, Ludwig. I always get here late.

That was so beautiful! Thank you for writing it! {{{ludwig}}}

Thank you marjoree.

310 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:28:43pm

re: #304 PT Barnum

I would guess that a good deal of the people screaming about mosques and such would gladly beat you for being a heathen.

There are quite a few perks to being a heathen, especially the sex and the drugs.

311 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:28:44pm

re: #302 darthstar

The enema is your friend.

I dunno bout you but enemas ain’t my bag.

312 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:28:54pm

re: #307 PT Barnum

The Firedog Lake denizens who are now screaming because Obama is actually to the right of Dennis Kucinich, not that he ever made that a secret in my opinion.

hahahaha I think George Clinton is to the right of Dennis Kucinich

313 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:29:00pm

re: #291 LudwigVanQuixote

I suppose thank you. But I think that it is the first and only time I have ever heard anyone call being Jewish lucky. I do adore you Hoops.

Being God’s chosen people isn’t the best of the best?
I would do anything to be Jewish..But alas..Life isn’t fair

314 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:29:19pm

re: #299 allegro

I read about Gibbs’ comments this morning. I do believe he dun stepped it, actually.

step in it?…he’s covered with it

315 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:29:43pm

re: #306 Gus 802

Daily Kos is linked above in this article.

Deal with it. You don’t like it take it up with Charles.

He liked the way Charles used to link to KOS, back in the old days…

316 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:29:45pm

re: #165 SanFranciscoZionist

My historical grievances against the Spanish people have been revealed.

(I’ve learned that it is OK to hate Muslims forever because they conquered parts of Spain in the Middle Ages, however, the Expulsion and the Inquisition are evidently just things I should get over. Collateral damage. It was a long time ago. No big deal.)

Just to nitpick a bit —it’s a very big stretch to say that Muslims conquered parts of Spain (and Portugal) during the 8th century. The Muslim campaign is usually referred to as the conquest of the Iberian Peninsula simply because there was no such thing as “Spain”, and there wouldn’t be for centuries to come. The most consensual “birth” of Spain is usually placed at the 15th century, with the unification of Castilla and Aragón. The use of the modern word “España” can be traced to 12th century documents, but that’s it.

317 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:30:12pm

re: #303 Spare O’Lake

re: #286 Gus 802

No excuse for that shit. Kos sucks the big one.

haha if you think there’s no excuse for that shit, maybe you should have the guts to say that to the guy who posted it.

Lamesauce

318 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:30:24pm

re: #303 Spare O’Lake

re: #286 Gus 802

No excuse for that shit. Kos sucks the big one.

Individual diaries posted by any of the 250,000+ members don’t mean that Kos personally advocates them. Those diaries are regularly troll-rated until they disappear by the dKos community at large. I fully expect the same to happen here as people come to post objectionable material in the LGF pages…it won’t mean that Charles sucks the big one. It’ll just mean assholes appear (and disappear) on yet another internet web site.

319 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:30:26pm

re: #299 allegro

I read about Gibbs’ comments this morning. I do believe he dun stepped it, actually.

Agreed his whole point was to berate us liberals who would dare ask where his hawkish changes are? Where is this heavy financial oversight? Why would you OK the assassination of an American Citizen without due process? Why do we still have CIA black sites? Why do we still have GITMO?

Apparently, these questions mean that I need a drug test. I suuuuuure appreciate that.

320 TedStriker  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:30:26pm

re: #278 captdiggs

A sampling

Kos Kids Sympathize with Virginia Tech Mass Murderer
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

The Protocols of the Daily Kos
How low can Daily Kos go? Perhaps the most sickening, hate-filled antisemitic diary ever at Daily Kos:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

Zionism was and remains a racist ideology
[Link: www.dailykos.com…]

It’s interesting that you had to dig 2 and 3 years back for your “supporting material”…you couldn’t find anything more recent?

Even so, a broken clock is right twice a day…

321 captdiggs  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:30:28pm

re: #294 WindUpBird

That’s how you distract, that’s how you muddy the waters and throw up distractions and toss your cynicism around.

No, it’s how you excuse racist hatred of the left to validate your hatred of the right.
You’re real anger here is that Charles has pointed out the vile hate on Daily Kos, and you have no real way of defending that hate spewed on the Daily Kos.

322 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:30:31pm

HEH,,

What the last thing that goes through a robbers mind?

How about a bullet from his OWN gun

(action starts about 2 minutes in,,, “money shot” is about 2:19)

[Link: www.wsbtv.com…]

323 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:30:35pm

re: #315 wrenchwench

He liked the way Charles used to link to KOS, back in the old days…

My ox is being gored! Wehhhh! My penis hurts!

324 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:30:37pm

re: #295 PT Barnum

If nothing else, the food would be enough reason for me.

Lox and cream cheese on a really good bagel…mmm

Too bad I have had to cut back on carbs. Though my doc just told me my A1C was 5.8, so I’m doing pretty well.

:)

It has been commented that my people invented the gout.

Seriously though, there is nothing in the world that beats a few warm slices of a good mushroomy brisket on some thick cut warm challah.

325 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:30:47pm

Now we’re going to make this about DKos? What a crock of shit.

326 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:30:54pm

re: #299 allegro

I read about Gibbs’ comments this morning. I do believe he dun stepped it, actually.

Maybe but it’s nice to hear someone being honest about what’s desirable and what’s realistic.

I would like to see the Democrats quit running around like a bunch of scared rabbits and start really laying out why the current GOP is full of shit, but I don’t hold out any hope, since they seem to be doomed to be the adults in this whole situation.

327 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:30:55pm

re: #304 PT Barnum

I would guess that a good deal of the people screaming about mosques and such would gladly beat you for being a heathen.

so what?…I’ve been beaten before and I certainly didn’t consider their religious affiliation

328 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:31:07pm

re: #318 darthstar

Individual diaries posted by any of the 250,000+ members don’t mean that Kos personally advocates them. Those diaries are regularly troll-rated until they disappear by the dKos community at large. I fully expect the same to happen here as people come to post objectionable material in the LGF pages…it won’t mean that Charles sucks the big one. It’ll just mean assholes appear (and disappear) on yet another internet web site.

Simple knowledge, cravenly ignored by cynical people.

329 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:32:16pm

re: #325 Gus 802

Now we’re going to make this about DKos? What a crock of shit.

This is the back door to approving of the anti-mosque crazies.

Find a liberal boogeyman! Boogie boogie!

330 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:32:40pm

re: #313 HoosierHoops

Being God’s chosen people isn’t the best of the best?
I would do anything to be Jewish..But alas..Life isn’t fair

Well Hoops you can join the tribe. If you are serious, it takes about a year.

As to the chosen part, that is something that needs to be expounded on.

We were not chosen as more loved or better. Chosen means we were given the mission of repair of the world and to seek and create justice. The entire chosen is a double standard that applies more stringently to us.

My favorite old Jewish joke is an old man looking up and saying:
“Could you choose someone else?”

331 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:32:52pm

re: #321 captdiggs

No, it’s how you excuse racist hatred of the left to validate your hatred of the right.
You’re real anger here is that Charles has pointed out the vile hate on Daily Kos, and you have no real way of defending that hate spewed on the Daily Kos.

Sorry lamesauce, I need a little more zang than that

332 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:33:26pm

re: #320 talon_262

It’s interesting that you had to dig 2 and 3 years back for your “supporting material”…you couldn’t find anything more recent?

Even so, a broken clock is right twice a day…

Well, Kos is so important that it’s getting posted about constantly in 2010!

Oh wait never mind!

333 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:33:27pm

re: #306 Gus 802

Daily Kos is linked above in this article.

Deal with it. You don’t like it take it up with Charles.

You think I can’t say Kos sucks here, then you deal with it.
Kos sucks the big one.

334 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:33:34pm

re: #324 LudwigVanQuixote

Not strictly jewish, but there is a BBQ place down the road from me that makes brisket that is a thing of absolute gastronomic beauty. I can only eat there about once a month or my doc will start getting on me about my cholestorol and my blood sugar, and one thing to worry about is enough.

335 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:34:01pm

re: #333 Spare O’Lake

You think I can’t say Kos sucks here, then you deal with it.
Kos sucks the big one.

Oral fixation?

336 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:34:07pm

re: #328 WindUpBird

Simple knowledge, cravenly ignored by cynical people.

Whatever lib, I know you speak for me. Wait… what?re: #322 sattv4u2

HEH,,

What the last thing that goes through a robbers mind?

How about a bullet from his OWN gun

(action starts about 2 minutes in,,, “money shot” is about 2:19)

[Link: www.wsbtv.com…]

HAHAHAHA wow. Talk about Karma!

337 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:34:18pm

re: #333 Spare O’Lake

You think I can’t say Kos sucks here, then you deal with it.
Kos sucks the big one.

Daily Kos: State of the Nation

Daily Kos: State of the Nation

Daily Kos: State of the Nation

338 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:34:24pm

re: #333 Spare O’Lake

You think I can’t say Kos sucks here, then you deal with it.
Kos sucks the big one.

Just so happens that you bang on this on an anti-mosque crazies thread


just so happens!

339 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:34:35pm

re: #335 darthstar

Oral fixation?

lots of that around here

340 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:35:04pm

re: #339 albusteve

lots of that around here

Lots of that everywhere.

341 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:35:46pm

re: #319 SinisterBen

Agreed his whole point was to berate us liberals who would dare ask where his hawkish changes are? Where is this heavy financial oversight? Why would you OK the assassination of an American Citizen without due process? Why do we still have CIA black sites? Why do we still have GITMO?

Apparently, these questions mean that I need a drug test. I suuure appreciate that.

‘zactly. Tis never a good idea to piss off the ones what drove you to the dance. There are things to criticize this administration for and, in fact, Obama himself has said “make me” a few times regarding holding his feet to the fire and pushing desirable legislation. When Dems need every vote in this election coming up, disparaging those very voters is not the best plan.

342 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:35:47pm

re: #318 darthstar

Individual diaries posted by any of the 250,000+ members don’t mean that Kos personally advocates them. Those diaries are regularly troll-rated until they disappear by the dKos community at large. I fully expect the same to happen here as people come to post objectionable material in the LGF pages…it won’t mean that Charles sucks the big one. It’ll just mean assholes appear (and disappear) on yet another internet web site.

And then people will probably use some LGF diary posted by some crazy to smear LGF, just as Captain DIGGZ does.

343 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:36:07pm

re: #291 LudwigVanQuixote

I suppose thank you. But I think that it is the first and only time I have ever heard anyone call being Jewish lucky. I do adore you Hoops.

It’s the old joke: “God, I understand you needed a chosen people. But why did you have to chose me?”

344 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:36:09pm
345 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:36:58pm

re: #324 LudwigVanQuixote

:)

It has been commented that my people invented the gout.

Seriously though, there is nothing in the world that beats a few warm slices of a good mushroomy brisket on some thick cut warm challah.

Now I know who to blame.

346 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:37:06pm

re: #313 HoosierHoops

Being God’s chosen people isn’t the best of the best?
I would do anything to be Jewish..But alas..Life isn’t fair

Maybe once in a while if it’s not too much trouble, God, could you please choose someone else?

- channelling 1960’s comedy LP “You Don’t Have To Be Jewish”.

347 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:37:49pm

re: #336 SinisterBen

HAHAHAHA wow. Talk about Karma!

The original report is that they thought the hotel clerk shot the robber

Nuh uh
Looks as if he double clutched the trigger on the recoil and the gun was at his head

348 webevintage  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:38:34pm

re: #301 wrenchwench

What’s a firebagger?

Someone who really did think they would get a rainbow unicorn that sparkles if Obama became President.

349 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:38:47pm

re: #330 LudwigVanQuixote

Heh. See my #346. GMTA.

350 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:38:49pm

the Bible punchin is getting thick around here

351 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:39:47pm

re: #347 sattv4u2

The original report is that they thought the hotel clerk shot the robber

Nuh uh
Looks as if he double clutched the trigger on the recoil and the gun was at his head

I love that they use the scary “deadly shooting” phrasing. Ohh, SCARY! The moron shot himself in the middle of a crime. It was freaking poetic.

352 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:41:14pm

re: #335 darthstar

Oral fixation?

Pretty much.

353 TedStriker  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:41:23pm

re: #297 captdiggs

It’s a hate site in my book, as the articles show and Charles has pointed out in previous postings about their anti-semitism and tacit support of terrorism.

Which is why I am surprised at the SPLC referencing the site.

I guess it’s all become “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”

Repeat after me: DKos diaries don’t necessarily represent the views of Markos, just as LGF posts/pages don’t necessarily represent Charles’ views. (Not so) nice try though, bonehead…

/I see where you’re headed, though…just flounce already

354 captdiggs  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:41:30pm

re: #308 WindUpBird

you KNOW that anti-muslim racism is the real deal, the real tangible problem rising day by day,

I disagree. Some mosque protests. Big deal.
No one is stringing up muslims. There was no pogrom of muslims after 9/11. There’s been no massive campaign of mosque burnings, no great number of discrimination cases.
There are more anti-semitic acts in the US than there have been similar acts against muslims in any given year. There is still more discrimination against blacks in the US than against muslims.

355 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:41:47pm

re: #319 SinisterBen

Agreed his whole point was to berate us liberals who would dare ask where his hawkish changes are? Where is this heavy financial oversight? Why would you OK the assassination of an American Citizen without due process? Why do we still have CIA black sites? Why do we still have GITMO?

Apparently, these questions mean that I need a drug test. I suuure appreciate that.

I’m cool with people leaning on Obama, I’m less cool with Firebaggers because Firebaggers are real difficult to reason with regarding the realities of trying to juggle the politics of so many things at once in the midst of a recession. He’s president, not king, and some of the far left blogs seem to think he has more power than he does. I was the guy that was happy with health care reform, I was not the guy who was losing his mind because we didnt get single payer.

I also never expected heavy financial oversight because this is America, and financial institutions here hold too many cards. We fail to learn these lessons every time, we just sorta pave over the problem and ignore it, then it comes back.

356 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:42:12pm

re: #354 captdiggs

I disagree. Some mosque protests. Big deal.
No one is stringing up muslims. There was no pogrom of muslims after 9/11. There’s been no massive campaign of mosque burnings, no great number of discrimination cases.
There are more anti-semitic acts in the US than there have been similar acts against muslims in any given year. There is still more discrimination against blacks in the US than against muslims.

So the rhetoric doesn’t become an issue until people are being strung up?

Classy.

357 brownbagj  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:42:32pm

re: #248 SinisterBen

All joking aside, who doesn’t want gays to move into their community, property value goes up, you get some nice places to eat and drink, and the night life is friggin’ amazing.

Conversely, old white conservatives move into your area, you get a Neighborhood Walmart, and neighbors who won’t make eye contact and the nightlife, well, it starts at 7:30.

I guess you haven’t seen many of the sex scandals involving said old white conservatives. I bet their nightlife could rival just about anything.

358 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:43:04pm

re: #354 captdiggs

I disagree. Some mosque protests. Big deal.
No one is stringing up muslims. There was no pogrom of muslims after 9/11. There’s been no massive campaign of mosque burnings, no great number of discrimination cases.

nice use of language because that tiptoes around the truth that there HAVE been mosque burnings.

359 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:43:37pm

re: #306 Gus 802

Daily Kos is linked above in this article.

Deal with it. You don’t like it take it up with Charles.

G.K. Chesterton and G.B. Shaw were utter enemies in debate, and the best of friends off the podium. They enjoyed each other’s wit. Chesterton, the converted Catholic, and Shaw, the rationalist atheist, had more fun poking holes in the other guy’s arguments than anything you can do with your clothes on.

The sign of a reasonable man or woman is the ability to see that your antagonist of yesterday may have a valid point today.

Some people here missed out on that part of what an “argument” is all about, and continue with the old, ancient, sempiternal schemata of drooling automatic rejection of anything an opponent says.

Pam Geller is a good example, may her name vanish. CaptDiggs is one of our very own epigones of idiocy.

Embrace the downding.

360 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:44:04pm

re: #357 brownbagj

I guess you haven’t seen many of the sex scandals involving said old white conservatives. I bet their nightlife could rival just about anything.

Man…that is one ugly profile pic…you oughta warn people!

361 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:44:11pm

re: #355 WindUpBird

I’m cool with people leaning on Obama, I’m less cool with Firebaggers because Firebaggers are real difficult to reason with regarding the realities of trying to juggle the politics of so many things at once in the midst of a recession. He’s president, not king, and some of the far left blogs seem to think he has more power than he does. I was the guy that was happy with health care reform, I was not the guy who was losing his mind because we didnt get single payer.

I also never expected heavy financial oversight because this is America, and financial institutions here hold too many cards. We fail to learn these lessons every time, we just sorta pave over the problem and ignore it, then it comes back.

I can handle that. I understand the juggling, and don’t get me lying, I will be voting for Obama again… I just want to keep the pressure on. If I say, oh this is good enough, I get swept under… There are a lot of things I like, but that doesn’t mean I should STFU and eat cake.

Quick question: what’s a firebagger? (newb)

362 webevintage  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:44:28pm

I think the voters should hold the President accountable.
I like the Obameter over at PolitFact that rates which of his promises have be kept or not:
[Link: www.politifact.com…]

It think liberals can and should be pissed when something happens that he SAID he would change, but I cannot allow folks to throw in their lot with Grover fucking Norquist when they don’t get their way.

363 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:45:01pm

re: #313 HoosierHoops

Being God’s chosen people isn’t the best of the best?
I would do anything to be Jewish..But alas..Life isn’t fair

You know it’s not a racial thing, right? You can convert. I have a feeling you would be very welcome.

364 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:45:09pm

re: #362 webevintage

I think the voters should hold the President accountable.
I like the Obameter over at PolitFact that rates which of his promises have be kept or not:
[Link: www.politifact.com…]

It think liberals can and should be pissed when something happens that he SAID he would change, but I cannot allow folks to throw in their lot with Grover fucking Norquist when they don’t get their way.

Nope. Sorry. Sarah Palin told me Politifact lies. Not reading your libtard link. ;)

365 captdiggs  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:45:11pm

re: #356 SinisterBen

So the rhetoric doesn’t become an issue until people are being strung up?

Classy.

If there was going to be violence against muslims in the US, it would have happened in 2001.

366 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:45:15pm

re: #361 SinisterBen

I can handle that. I understand the juggling, and don’t get me lying, I will be voting for Obama again… I just want to keep the pressure on. If I say, oh this is good enough, I get swept under… There are a lot of things I like, but that doesn’t mean I should STFU and eat cake.

Quick question: what’s a firebagger? (newb)

A turbo liberal…known for hanging out at Firedog Lake where the uber liberals congregate.

367 ShaunP  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:45:29pm

re: #354 captdiggs

I disagree. Some mosque protests. Big deal.
No one is stringing up muslims. There was no pogrom of muslims after 9/11. There’s been no massive campaign of mosque burnings, no great number of discrimination cases.
There are more anti-semitic acts in the US than there have been similar acts against muslims in any given year. There is still more discrimination against blacks in the US than against muslims.

Uh, do you realize what post you are commenting in?

368 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:45:32pm

re: #358 WindUpBird

Also, Varg didn’t hate Christians, no massive campaign of church burnings!

/just a few cultural relics here and there >>

369 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:46:24pm

re: #361 SinisterBen

I can handle that. I understand the juggling, and don’t get me lying, I will be voting for Obama again… I just want to keep the pressure on. If I say, oh this is good enough, I get swept under… There are a lot of things I like, but that doesn’t mean I should STFU and eat cake.

Quick question: what’s a firebagger? (newb)

FiredogLake people who essentially want all their politics to magically become reality.

I was sort of through with FDL when they started to make noises in concert with Grover Norquist.

370 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:46:28pm

re: #365 captdiggs

If there was going to be violence against muslims in the US, it would have happened in 2001.

Your trollery is only exceeded by your asshattery.

371 TedStriker  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:46:31pm

re: #325 Gus 802

Now we’re going to make this about DKos? What a crock of shit.

Don’t bother with logic on this one…captdiggs is too busy warming up for their turn on the Flounce-a-Pult.

372 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:46:32pm

re: #366 PT Barnum

A turbo liberal…known for hanging out at Firedog Lake where the uber liberals congregate.

Oh, yes, I went there once. I cringed a lot. And I am freaking left of Kucinich. I think that should say enough.

373 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:46:37pm

re: #365 captdiggs

If there was going to be violence against muslims in the US, it would have happened in 2001.

wow, you don’t even read LGF, do you

374 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:46:39pm

re: #363 Cato the Elder

You know it’s not a racial thing, right? You can convert. I have a feeling you would be very welcome.

It is a process not free of pain for male converts.

375 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:46:47pm

And now it seems appropriate to reiterate that a moderate is not a weakling who wants to please everyone, rather someone who unthinkingly doesn’t subscribe to the dogma of either side.

376 captdiggs  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:47:00pm

re: #358 WindUpBird

nice use of language because that tiptoes around the truth that there HAVE been mosque burnings.

My guess is that there have been more church burnings than mosque burnings in the last 10 years, in the US.

377 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:47:24pm

re: #374 Spare O’Lake

For most american men that’s not really an issue anyways.

378 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:47:25pm

re: #374 Spare O’Lake

It is a process not free of pain for male converts.

It’s certainly something done with malice a foreskin…

379 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:47:50pm

re: #375 LudwigVanQuixote

And now it seems appropriate to reiterate that a moderate is not a weakling who wants to please everyone, rather someone who unthinkingly doesn’t subscribe to the dogma of either side.

It can be either really :p

380 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:48:05pm

re: #376 captdiggs

My guess is that there have been more church burnings than mosque burnings in the last 10 years, in the US.

and that excuses them how?

381 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:48:08pm

re: #378 PT Barnum

-1 in good humor but -1 anyways, pun-bastard :p

382 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:48:12pm

re: #376 captdiggs

My guess is that there have been more church burnings than mosque burnings in the last 10 years, in the US.

Can I just quickly ask why people behave like this?

383 captdiggs  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:48:15pm

re: #370 PT Barnum

Your trollery is only exceeded by your asshattery.

ad hominems are a poor substitute for a rational argument.

384 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:48:20pm

re: #376 captdiggs

My guess is that there have been more church burnings than mosque burnings in the last 10 years, in the US.

And now kids, open your textbooks to page 35, it’s time to adjust for how many churches there are in the US versus how many mosques

Math is hard for Cap’n diggs lol

385 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:48:22pm

re: #376 captdiggs

My guess is that there have been more church burnings than mosque burnings in the last 10 years, in the US.

If you guessed the sky was blue, based on your comments today I’d have to go out and look.

386 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:48:23pm

re: #380 PT Barnum

I know 2 words for that argument!

387 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:48:49pm

re: #381 windsagio

-1 in good humor but -1 anyways, pun-bastard :p

If you don’t like word play a pox upun you.

388 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:48:51pm

re: #375 LudwigVanQuixote

And now it seems appropriate to reiterate that a moderate is not a weakling who wants to please everyone, rather someone who unthinkingly doesn’t subscribe to the dogma of either side.

Misplaced modifier or Freudian slip?

389 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:49:00pm

re: #383 captdiggs

probably the longterm effect of frustration from talking to a frickin’ brick wall for god knows how long.

390 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:49:09pm

re: #376 captdiggs

My guess is that there have been more church burnings than mosque burnings in the last 10 years, in the US.

Is there a reason you are trying to be so hateful?

391 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:49:12pm

religious faith is no problem, til you get three pious godfans in the same room…who needs all this bullshit anyway?…where’s Pat when you need him

392 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:49:26pm

re: #383 captdiggs

ad hominems are a poor substitute for a rational argument.

try providing one and I won’t have to resort to ad hominem.

393 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:49:27pm

re: #354 captdiggs

I disagree. Some mosque protests. Big deal.
No one is stringing up muslims. There was no pogrom of muslims after 9/11. There’s been no massive campaign of mosque burnings, no great number of discrimination cases.
There are more anti-semitic acts in the US than there have been similar acts against muslims in any given year. There is still more discrimination against blacks in the US than against muslims.

Talk about damning with faint praise.

394 webevintage  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:49:48pm

re: #376 captdiggs

My guess is that there have been more church burnings than mosque burnings in the last 10 years, in the US.

I wonder who keeps track of that?
FBI?
Maybe the Southern Poverty Law Center?

395 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:49:53pm

re: #388 Spare O’Lake

Misplaced modifier or Freudian slip?

misplaced modifier…

And now it seems appropriate to reiterate that a moderate is not a weakling who wants to please everyone, rather someone who doesn’t unthinkingly subscribe to the dogma of either side.

396 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:50:16pm

re: #391 albusteve

religious faith is no problem, til you get three pious godfans in the same room…who needs all this bullshit anyway?…where’s Pat when you need him

“The problem is any kind of Radicalism really”.

(I’ve widened it to take the religious aspect out, as I think of it its almost a secondary thing to people getting off on their absolutisms)

397 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:50:40pm

re: #377 windsagio

For most american men that’s not really an issue anyways.

Actually the moehl still insists on cutting off a little more, just to make it kosher.

398 webevintage  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:51:01pm

re: #376 captdiggs

My guess is that there have been more church burnings than mosque burnings in the last 10 years, in the US.

Does it matter?

399 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:51:15pm

Charles could you kill my 375. I missed when I went to insert a word and said something unintended. I know that preview is my friend. I will try to do better.

400 TedStriker  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:51:22pm

re: #367 ShaunP

Uh, do you realize what post you are commenting in?

The irony is apparently completely lost on ol’ captdiggs…

401 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:51:23pm

re: #398 webevintage

Does it matter?

Sort of, I would like to see that citation.

402 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:51:42pm

re: #397 Spare O’Lake

Actually the moehl still insists on cutting off a little more, just to make it kosher.

I know there’s a joke in there somewhere, but I got nothin’

403 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:51:47pm

re: #399 LudwigVanQuixote

Campaign for an edit function! (maybe with a time-limit)

404 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:52:28pm

re: #398 webevintage

Does it matter?

Its the victimization race. “We’re more of a subject of hate than you are!”

Just about every radical group does it >>

405 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:52:30pm

re: #355 WindUpBird

I really didn’t like the stunts the firebaggers pulled during the HCR debate. That said, I think it’s useful that there is some kind of pressure and criticism, no matter how feeble and ignored (as the firebaggers are, let’s face it) coming from the left.

I say this partly because most compromises with the GOP made legislation objectively worse. This was true for HCR, FinReg, civil libertarian issues, etc.

Obama and the rest of the administration are politicians. If they only get bitching and whining from the right, they will do the math and react accordingly.

406 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:52:31pm

re: #403 windsagio

Campaign for an edit function! (maybe with a time-limit)

Ohh that would be nice.

407 ShaunP  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:53:07pm

For the record, just some anti-muslim violence that has come up recently.

[Link: jacksonville.com…]

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

408 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:53:29pm

re: #396 windsagio

“The problem is any kind of Radicalism really”.

(I’ve widened it to take the religious aspect out, as I think of it its almost a secondary thing to people getting off on their absolutisms)

G-d, god, God…the great divider
nice job folks

409 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:53:34pm

re: #405 Nimed

Its the same ol’ problem… you can’t really compromise with people acting in bad faith.

410 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:53:36pm

re: #404 windsagio

Its the victimization race. “We’re more of a subject of hate than you are!”

Just about every radical group does it >>

I find it really funny to watch Christians complain that they are oppressed because they’re no longer able to force everyone else to live according to their rules.

411 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:53:47pm

re: #397 Spare O’Lake

Actually the moehl still insists on cutting off a little more, just to make it kosher.

Not.

A drop of blood is all that is required.

412 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:54:07pm

re: #409 windsagio

Its the same ol’ problem… you can’t really compromise with people acting in bad faith.

In a convent that’s known as a nasty habit.

413 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:54:28pm

re: #412 PT Barnum

lol I hate you so much, but I give in :D

414 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:54:34pm

re: #403 windsagio

Campaign for an edit function! (maybe with a time-limit)

I know I don’t have much of a vote, but sites that allow timeless editing start to read like a bad newspaper from 1984. The sites almost become incoherent at times. Revisited arguments start to become the opposite argument… etc. I like the pithy on demand knowledge. It weeds out those who are trying to subvert the discussion.

415 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:54:35pm

re: #412 PT Barnum

In a convent that’s known as a nasty habit.

or a cloister fuck.

416 captdiggs  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:55:00pm

re: #384 WindUpBird

And now kids, open your textbooks to page 35, it’s time to adjust for how many churches there are in the US versus how many mosques

Math is hard for Cap’n diggs lol

The left, meaning you and some others have taken up the cause of *islamophobia* as their latest cause celebre in attacking the right.
That’s why antisemitic acts and church burnings are of no concern to you…no political leverage.

All of this reminds me of the far left web sites that constantly attack Israel while pretending to care about palestinians.

You all have a nice evening.

417 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:55:15pm

re: #410 PT Barnum

I find it really funny to watch Christians complain that they are oppressed because they’re no longer able to force everyone else to live according to their rules.

I hate to see anyone act like they’re being repressed when they’re really not :p

Trying to resist giving examples >>

418 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:55:17pm

re: #413 windsagio

lol I hate you so much, but I give in :D

I have no compunction about word play..so hate away… :)

419 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:56:04pm

re: #416 captdiggs

lol nuts. For the record there are plenty of lefties I think are unduly harsh on Islam. Its not a tribal thing, man.

420 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:56:14pm

re: #416 captdiggs

The left, meaning you and some others have taken up the cause of *islamophobia* as their latest cause celebre in attacking the right.
That’s why antisemitic acts and church burnings are of no concern to you…no political leverage.

All of this reminds me of the far left web sites that constantly attack Israel while pretending to care about palestinians.

You all have a nice evening.

A half flounce! Care to make it a full order?

421 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:56:19pm

re: #414 SinisterBen

I know I don’t have much of a vote, but sites that allow timeless editing start to read like a bad newspaper from 1984. The sites almost become incoherent at times. Revisited arguments start to become the opposite argument… etc. I like the pithy on demand knowledge. It weeds out those who are trying to subvert the discussion.

What I said in my last comment is what I said. It’s my fault if I didn’t say it right. And I can always correct it later on, in a subsequent comment.

Edit function? Edit yourself as you write, and before you post. End of story.

422 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:56:53pm

re: #376 captdiggs

My guess is that there have been more church burnings than mosque burnings in the last 10 years, in the US.

There are also several hundred times as many churches as mosques.

423 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:57:09pm

re: #416 captdiggs

And happy Ramadan to you, trippy.

424 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:57:13pm

re: #416 captdiggs

Th lft, mnng y nd sm thrs hv tkn p th cs f *slmphb* s thr ltst cs clbr n ttckng th rght. Tht’s wh ntsmtc cts nd chrch brnngs r f n cncrn t y…n pltcl lvrg.

ll f ths rmnds m f th fr lft wb sts tht cnstntl ttck srl whl prtndng t cr bt plstnns.

Y ll hv nc vnng.

It’s all in your head.

425 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:57:14pm

re: #402 PT Barnum

I know there’s a joke in there somewhere, but I got nothin’

Here, let’s try it this way:
Q: What’s that moehl doing down my pants?

426 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:57:31pm

re: #421 Cato the Elder

What I said in my last comment is what I said. It’s my fault if I didn’t say it right. And I can always correct it later on, in a subsequent comment.

Edit function? Edit yourself as you write, and before you post. End of story.

Unfortunately my fingers move faster than my brain sometimes so by the time I realize I’ve hit the Enter key, I’m already getting downdinged for some lame joke I made that offended too many people.

427 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:57:43pm

re: #425 Spare O’Lake

Here, let’s try it this way:
Q: What’s that moehl doing down my pants?

A: There’s a snake in my boot?

428 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:58:15pm

re: #426 PT Barnum

Imo its hard to keep up sometimes if you do close editing at the time, seems like no harm :D

429 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:58:23pm

re: #425 Spare O’Lake

Here, let’s try it this way:
Q: What’s that moehl doing down my pants?

Frequently heard at a bris

“Just take a little off the top”

430 ShaunP  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:58:28pm

re: #422 b_sharp

There are also several hundred times as many churches as mosques.

*these may not be 100% to date, but…

~335,000 Churches
~1,200 Mosques

431 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:59:13pm

re: #424 Gus 802

It’s all in your head.

You disemvoweled it by hand? That’s so thoughtful!

432 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:59:24pm

re: #430 ShaunP

*these may not be 100% to date, but…

~335,000 Churches
~1,200 Mosques

Capt Diggs probably thinks that’s 1200 too many.

433 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:59:26pm

re: #430 ShaunP

*these may not be 100% to date, but…

~335,000 Churches
~1,200 Mosques

HELP we are being repressed!

434 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:59:36pm

re: #416 captdiggs

The left, meaning you and some others have taken up the cause of *islamophobia* as their latest cause celebre in attacking the right.
That’s why antisemitic acts and church burnings are of no concern to you…no political leverage.

All of this reminds me of the far left web sites that constantly attack Israel while pretending to care about palestinians.

You all have a nice evening.

Ok, we’re now sort of used to hearing the rest of this bullshit. But the “you don’t care about church burnings” is a new thing, right?

435 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 4:59:56pm

re: #430 ShaunP

*these may not be 100% to date, but…

~335,000 Churches
~1,200 Mosques

none of which pay property tax

436 ShaunP  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:00:05pm

re: #433 SinisterBen

HELP we are being repressed!

Sharia law! And so on…

437 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:00:09pm

re: #431 wrenchwench

You disemvoweled it by hand? That’s so thoughtful!

I used this…

[Link: novalis.org…]

438 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:00:20pm

re: #434 Nimed

The Good Lord knows I don’t care.

439 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:00:22pm

You guys are telling mohel jokes…

There are exactly 322 known variants.

This one is variant 5.

An old mohel had a picture of a sailing ship in the window of his office. Once his son asked “Dad? why a sailing ship? It has nothing to do with what you do.”

“So what would you like me to put in the window instead?”

440 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:00:37pm

re: #431 wrenchwench

You disemvoweled it by hand? That’s so thoughtful!

LOL

441 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:00:44pm

re: #411 Cato the Elder

Not.

A drop of blood is all that is required.

Only if the original job meets the prescribed standards. Don’t argue with me about this.

442 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:01:02pm

re: #441 Spare O’Lake

Only if the original job meets the prescribed standards. Don’t argue with me about this.

Woah, random aggression!

443 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:01:34pm

re: #430 ShaunP

*these may not be 100% to date, but…

~335,000 Churches
~1,200 Mosques

Run for the hills! We’re being Islamified!

444 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:01:38pm

re: #297 captdiggs


t’s ht st n m bk, s th rtcls shw nd Chrls hs pntd t n prvs pstngs bt thr nt-smtsm nd tct spprt f trrrsm.

Whch s wh m srprsd t th SPLC rfrncng th st.

gss t’s ll bcm “th nm f m nm s m frnd”

What? You say something?

445 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:02:07pm

re: #438 windsagio

The Good Lord knows I don’t care.

I never even liked this music.

446 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:02:23pm

re: #437 Gus 802

I used this…

[Link: novalis.org…]

Tstd nd bkmrkd!

thnks!

447 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:02:31pm

re: #443 Cato the Elder

Run for the hills! We’re being Islamified!

worse, we’ve been Christianized

448 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:02:44pm

re: #439 LudwigVanQuixote

You guys are telling mohel jokes…

There are exactly 322 known variants.

This one is variant 5.

An old mohel had a picture of a sailing ship in the window of his office. Once his son asked “Dad? why a sailing ship? It has nothing to do with what you do.”

“So what would you like me to put in the window instead?”

The one I read in an Isaac Asimov humor collection (that guy wrote about everything):

Guy goes to his urologist, Dr. Finkelstein. And during the exam, the doctor says “You’re bris was done by Isaac Goldman, right?”

The patient says “How did you know?”

“He always cuts on the bias”, replies the doctor.

I’m not jewish just love jokes.

449 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:02:51pm

Variant 7 mohel Joke.

My baby son just lost 5 pounds!

Oh my G-d, is he sick?

No, he just had his brit!

450 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:02:58pm

re: #263 captdiggs

I find it a bit disturbing that the SPLC used a hate site ( daily kos) for their information.

Cnut.

451 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:02:59pm

re: #445 Nimed

Wahahaha! Awesome :D

/ot: Get starcraft so you can destroy me some night >>

452 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:03:23pm

re: #448 PT Barnum

Is that from his dirty jokes book?

453 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:03:31pm

re: #448 PT Barnum

The one I read in an Isaac Asimov humor collection (that guy wrote about everything):

Guy goes to his urologist, Dr. Finkelstein. And during the exam, the doctor says “You’re bris was done by Isaac Goldman, right?”

The patient says “How did you know?”

“He always cuts on the bias”, replies the doctor.

I’m not jewish just love jokes.

I own the book!

454 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:03:52pm

re: #447 albusteve

worse, we’ve been Christianized

Not.

Christianity has never penetrated any society deeper than the water in the well penetrates the stone.

455 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:04:00pm

re: #451 windsagio

Wahahaha! Awesome :D

/ot: Get starcraft so you can destroy me some night >>

I’ll bet that’s not the first time you’ve said that.

456 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:04:20pm

re: #455 PT Barnum

leave my sex life out of it >>

457 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:04:52pm

A town nearby, suburb of Houston, is about 4 square miles in size and has about 150 churches, many of them in strip center storefronts, as are pretty common here. The mayor of the town said “no more” and tried to get something in front of the town council to forbid any new churches since the town was going broke. With the laws determining that businesses like restaurants that serve alcohol, etc. can’t be within 100 feet of a church (or something), it got so that all was left was non-tax paying churches.

I don’t know how this ended up - probably nowhere, but it is an interesting issue.

458 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:05:11pm

re: #453 LudwigVanQuixote

I own the book!

I got it from the library at a time I was trying to read every Asimov book they had. I finally gave up after while.

My other favorite Asimov book was a collection called “Before the Golden Age” which had a bunch of science fiction stories from before the years of Astounding and Amazing.

459 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:05:52pm

re: #457 allegro

A town nearby, suburb of Houston, is about 4 square miles in size and has about 150 churches, many of them in strip center storefronts, as are pretty common here. The mayor of the town said “no more” and tried to get something in front of the town council to forbid any new churches since the town was going broke. With the laws determining that businesses like restaurants that serve alcohol, etc. can’t be within 100 feet of a church (or something), it got so that all was left was non-tax paying churches.

I don’t know how this ended up - probably nowhere, but it is an interesting issue.

Freakin’ wow that sounds like an amazing read, remember the name of the town? I’m curious about that :D

460 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:06:17pm

HAve any right wing blogs been promoting “Burn the Quran day?” I found one thread at Red State but that’s it. Anyone have a list?

461 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:06:34pm

re: #451 windsagio

Wahahaha! Awesome :D

/ot: Get starcraft so you can destroy me some night >>

Sure thing. It’s going to have to wait until September though — that’s when I have my vacations.

462 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:06:35pm

re: #454 Cato the Elder

Not.

Christianity has never penetrated any society deeper than the water in the well penetrates the stone.

then what’s your beef with Palin and the new crop of creationists?

463 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:07:10pm

re: #462 albusteve

Even knowing its your whole ‘thing’ on this blog, don’t you ever get tired?

464 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:07:13pm

re: #459 windsagio

Freakin’ wow that sounds like an amazing read, remember the name of the town? I’m curious about that :D

I’m thinking it was Stafford.

465 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:07:34pm

re: #442 windsagio

Woah, random aggression!

Well it IS a touchy subject.

466 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:08:08pm

re: #450 wozzablog

self reported for being a tired and irritable jackass inexcusably lowering the tone.

467 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:08:26pm

re: #457 allegro

A town nearby, suburb of Houston, is about 4 square miles in size and has about 150 churches, many of them in strip center storefronts, as are pretty common here. The mayor of the town said “no more” and tried to get something in front of the town council to forbid any new churches since the town was going broke. With the laws determining that businesses like restaurants that serve alcohol, etc. can’t be within 100 feet of a church (or something), it got so that all was left was non-tax paying churches.

I don’t know how this ended up - probably nowhere, but it is an interesting issue.

religion is the new usurper of govt….one in the same in the next generation

468 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:08:45pm

re: #464 allegro

I’m thinking it was Stafford.

Found it!

That’s freakin’ something >>

469 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:08:59pm

re: #463 windsagio

Even knowing its your whole ‘thing’ on this blog, don’t you ever get tired?

tired of what?

470 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:09:15pm

re: #469 albusteve

tired of what?

The constant whack-a-mole trolling :P

471 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:10:14pm

re: #470 windsagio

The constant whack-a-mole trolling :P

are you stalking me again?…stalking is a form of trolling

472 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:10:19pm

re: #470 windsagio

The constant whack-a-mole trolling :P

WHACK!

(ooops)

473 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:10:52pm

re: #468 windsagio

Thanks for finding that. I see that I exaggerated terribly. LOL

474 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:11:12pm

re: #460 Killgore Trout

HAve any right wing blogs been promoting “Burn the Quran day?” I found one thread at Red State but that’s it. Anyone have a list?

If there’s nothing at HotAir, Riehl, Breitbart’s Big Somethings, Malkin, etc, that would be unexpectedly decent of them.

475 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:11:35pm
476 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:11:43pm

re: #472 wozzablog

WHACK!

(ooops)

I’m not a mole!

477 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:11:51pm

re: #471 albusteve

are you stalking me again?…stalking is a form of trolling

message board stalking, intersting concept =

How many comments would you place as a judicious radius for an exclusion zone between parties?……….

478 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:12:48pm

re: #473 allegro

Not really that much, its an interesting problem and it was killing the town. All kinds of legal questions tho’.

479 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:13:05pm

re: #477 wozzablog

Its just what he says when I call him out, some kind of reflex

480 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:13:37pm

re: #365 captdiggs

If there was going to be violence against Muslims in the US, it would have happened in 2001.

Well, to George W. Bush’s point, it did not. I will give the former president that much credit. But, the horse has left the barn. The base, xenophobic populism and hatred the Republicans are now trading in is toxic.

481 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:13:54pm

re: #462 albusteve

then what’s your beef with Palin and the new crop of creationists?

Hint: it is not their “Christianity”.

482 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:14:10pm

re: #477 wozzablog

message board stalking, intersting concept =

How many comments would you place as a judicious radius for an exclusion zone between parties?…

This thread’s not big enough for the two of us..I’m calling you out!

Gratuitous insults at high noon!

483 lostlakehiker  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:14:28pm

re: #251 sattv4u2

Conversely, old white conservatives move into your area, you get a Neighborhood Walmart

I thought all old white conservatives were rich?
The rich don’t frequent with the commoners at Wal Mart!

Actually, they do, if by “the rich” you mean not only the super-rich, but the ordinarily rich: doctors, lawyers, dentists, folk who earn 5 or 10 times the median.

484 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:14:33pm

heh, apropos of nothing I kinda enjoy being the subject of random freakouts

485 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:14:34pm

re: #477 wozzablog

message board stalking, intersting concept =

How many comments would you place as a judicious radius for an exclusion zone between parties?…

that’s up to you to decide…the poodle is loose

486 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:14:55pm

Former Bush Aides Bash GOP’s New Stance On 14th Amendment As ‘Offensive,’ ‘Embarrassment’

Former aides to the George W. Bush Administration are retaliating against a recent flurry of Republican calls for a repeal or readdressing of the 14th Amendment, the landmark addition to the United States Constitution that, among other provisions, mandated that “All persons born or naturalized in the United States” would be granted American citizenship.

In response to a recent movement by GOP brass to combat the so-called “anchor baby” or “birth tourism” issue created by the 14th Amendment, Mark McKinnon, media adviser to Bush’s two presidential campaigns, attacked Republicans for forfeiting their allegiance to the legislative milestone.

“The 14th Amendment is a great legacy of the Republican party. It is a shame and an embarrassment that the GOP now wants to amend it for starkly political reasons,” McKinnon told Politico. “Initially Republicans rallied around the amendment to welcome more citizens to this country. Now it is being used to drive people away.”…..

487 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:15:21pm

re: #479 windsagio

Its just what he says when I call him out, some kind of reflex

call me out on what?…you snark but you never really define wtf you are trying to say

488 tradewind  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:15:31pm

re: #299 allegro
Keith Ellison (D., MN) said Gibbs should resign.
The whole controversy has sent him ( Gibbs) to bed with a ’ bad cold ‘.

489 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:15:34pm

re: #485 albusteve

that’s up to you to decide…the poodle is loose

is that why there are landmines all over the thread?

490 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:15:36pm

re: #482 PT Barnum

There was an ‘Its On!’ yesterday, and a “Is that all you got?!” a few days back >>

491 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:15:37pm

re: #475 Gus 802

Whoboy

What a creep.

Ortloff admitted he repeatedly e-mailed and called someone he believed was the mother of 11- and 12-year-old sisters to arrange a meeting with them to have sex at a motel.

492 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:15:38pm

re: #425 Spare O’Lake

Here, let’s try it this way:
Q: What’s that moehl doing down my pants?

I dunno but it sure ain’t the breast stroke.

493 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:15:51pm

re: #484 windsagio

heh, apropos of nothing I kinda enjoy being the subject of random freakouts

And I like the attention of random “freaks.” Er, I did, before I got engaged. Now, now, it is just wrong.

So say we all.

494 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:16:20pm

re: #493 SinisterBen

Thats a much more fun kind of fun :)

495 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:16:21pm

re: #478 windsagio

Not really that much, its an interesting problem and it was killing the town. All kinds of legal questions tho’.

There was one such issue in Houston that really pissed me off. There’s this fantastic BBQ restaurant on Clay Rd that had been there for probably two decades. Across the street was some pasture area that got sold to some church. The church puts up a tent (literally) and the city demanded that the restaurant had to move back about 50 feet due to the ordinances if they wanted to continue serving beer. They had the land. Had to build a whole new restaurant building at their cost because that church bought the property across the street. Seems the church should have been the one required to build back 50 feet since they were the late-comers.

496 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:16:21pm
497 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:16:47pm

I can’t wait until stealth-stalker “Buck” gets over his timeout and joins the conversation.

498 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:16:51pm

re: #481 Cato the Elder

Hint: it is not their “Christianity”.

and who decides that?…it’s become their conservatism, Christianity is up for grabs

499 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:17:22pm

re: #495 allegro

It works that way? That’s freaking insane!

All of those laws are 100% unconstitutional anyways, though.

500 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:17:38pm

re: #496 Gus 802

Michele Bachmann on intelligent design


[Video]

Michele Bachman and intelligent in the same sentence…oxymoron if ever there was one.

501 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:17:41pm

re: #497 Cato the Elder

Buck got Nailed finally? Missed that.



Good.

502 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:18:36pm

re: #499 windsagio

It works that way? That’s freaking insane!

All of those laws are 100% unconstitutional anyways, though.

Once the Supreme Court decided that a city could take away your property and give it to a developer under eminent domain, things just sucked all that much more.

503 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:18:38pm

re: #501 windsagio

Buck got Nailed finally? Missed that.

Good.

Timed out.

504 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:19:12pm

re: #503 Gus 802

ya I got that :p

Guy needed a chill pill pretty bad.

505 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:19:45pm

re: #501 windsagio

Buck got Nailed finally? Missed that.

Good.

Well, it took two limericks by me (of which you have also been the victim), but he finally pushed Stinky to the point of issuing a warning.

Glad to know you’re not quite so sensitive to poetic “sleight of hand”…

506 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:20:02pm

re: #489 PT Barnum

is that why there are landmines all over the thread?

religion is the land mine….another way to impress yourself on the next person…maybe if religionists would simply learn to mind their own damned business, tolerance and intolerance would be better defined…but that ain’t gonna happen is it?

507 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:20:23pm

re: #505 Cato the Elder

Well, it took two limericks by me (of which you have also been the victim), but he finally pushed Stinky to the point of issuing a warning.

Glad to know you’re not quite so sensitive to poetic “sleight of hand”…

But he hates puns so he can’t be all good.

508 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:20:41pm

re: #505 Cato the Elder

Our occasional conflict is a different beast entirely.

Glad it’s on hiatus right now though.

(Trying to hold in the emotes, btw. Praise me!)

509 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:20:42pm

re: #497 Cato the Elder

I can’t wait until stealth-stalker “Buck” gets over his timeout and joins the conversation.

timeout?…really
I’m waiting

510 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:21:14pm

re: #75 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Illinois Nazis? “First Amendment!”
KKK? “First Amendment!”
Skinheads? “First Amendment!”
Pro-Life Picketers? “First Amendment!”

Building a community center that happens to have a mosque in NYC city limits?

“DO AWAY WITH THE CONSTITUTION! THEY MUST NOT BE ALLOWED NEAR OUR SACRED GROUNDS!!!111111”

“Freedom,” my ass.

i hate Illinois nazis.

511 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:21:19pm

re: #506 albusteve

religion is the land mine…another way to impress yourself on the next person…maybe if religionists would simply learn to mind their own damned business, tolerance and intolerance would be better defined…but that ain’t gonna happen is it?

I was speaking of your incessant need to pick fights with people. I think what Windsagio and I (since I agree with hiim) are trying to say is:

Try not being such an asshole.

512 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:21:59pm

Time to give myself a timeout.littlegreenfootballs.com...]>littlegreenfootballs.com…]>.

See y’all tomorrow.

513 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:22:11pm

re: #474 Nimed

If there’s nothing at HotAir, Riehl, Breitbart’s Big Somethings, Malkin, etc, that would be unexpectedly decent of them.

I was hoping to find Spencer and Pam Geller promoting it. The church sponsoring the event is also incredibly antisemitic too. They hate jews and are going to burn the Talmud as well….

514 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:23:10pm

re: #512 wrenchwench

Time to give myself a timeout.littlegreenfootballs.com...]>littlegreenfootballs.com…]>.

See y’all tomorrow.

Now there’s a feature that would be nice to have…the ability to see pictures in line rather than having to open a new page.

515 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:23:19pm

I need somebody with some rep to flounce soon, I have a song I totally wanna post in response.

516 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:23:31pm

re: #514 PT Barnum

Now there’s a feature that would be nice to have…the ability to see pictures in line rather than having to open a new page.

Lol, jerk :P

517 [deleted]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:23:35pm
518 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:24:06pm

re: #482 PT Barnum

This thread’s not big enough for the two of us..I’m calling you out!

Gratuitous insults at high noon!

spaghetti western music at dawn mi amigo, you son of a cowardly dog fish mother muskrat……………

519 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:25:10pm

re: #209 LudwigVanQuixote

{{Ludwig}}

Really don’t waste your tears on those assholes.

520 tradewind  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:26:24pm

re: #57 CuriousLurker
…and yet I see you took it anyway.
Cheers.

521 palomino  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:27:47pm

re: #457 allegro

A town nearby, suburb of Houston, is about 4 square miles in size and has about 150 churches, many of them in strip center storefronts, as are pretty common here. The mayor of the town said “no more” and tried to get something in front of the town council to forbid any new churches since the town was going broke. With the laws determining that businesses like restaurants that serve alcohol, etc. can’t be within 100 feet of a church (or something), it got so that all was left was non-tax paying churches.

I don’t know how this ended up - probably nowhere, but it is an interesting issue.

Do you know which suburb by any chance?

I’ll be in Houston later this week, and may feel the need to get absolved for lots of Texas size sinning. Seriously I was born and raised there so I’m curious if you know the name.

522 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:29:13pm

re: #521 palomino

Do you know which suburb by any chance?

I’ll be in Houston later this week, and may feel the need to get absolved for lots of Texas size sinning. Seriously I was born and raised there so I’m curious if you know the name.

Stafford, southwest side. Wind found the article.

523 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:31:35pm

re: #8 eclectic infidel

“Anti-Semitic White-Supremacist Orthodox Jew Tries To Ban Islam In US.”

That’s an ugly sentence. Bad for New York. Bad for the U.S. Bad for Israel

Sadly, I’ve recently run across a similar person - she’s a Kahanist. They do exist.

Just got here. I have to say this John Joseph Jay reminds me of Chairman Mao. His evident desire to “smash the ruling class” makes it clear he was born at the wrong time: This asshole would have been a perfect Red Guard.

524 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:33:26pm

re: #513 Killgore Trout

I was hoping to find Spencer and Pam Geller promoting it. The church sponsoring the event is also incredibly antisemitic too. They hate jews and are going to burn the Talmud as well…

[Video]

What the fuck. No dog whistles there.
“When you’re burning these Qurans in September 11, throw a couple of Talmuds in with them, would you please?”

525 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:33:26pm

Off for a while, wanted to leave Cato with one of my favorite songs from the ’80s.

Nu geträumt

526 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:33:58pm

re: #505 Cato the Elder

Well, it took two limericks by me (of which you have also been the victim), but he finally pushed Stinky to the point of issuing a warning.

Glad to know you’re not quite so sensitive to poetic “sleight of hand”…

Neither am I :)

527 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:34:19pm

re: #525 windsagio

Goddammit, “Nur”

528 palomino  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:35:02pm

re: #522 allegro

Stafford, southwest side. Wind found the article.

They say San Antonio is the capital of megachurches now, but Houston is the only one with a church previously used as the home of an NBA team. What was called the Summit from 1975-2000 was a great place for concerts, basketball and hockey games, etc. Now it’s where Joel Osteen saves souls and prints fat stacks of cash, not necessarily in that order.

529 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:37:14pm

re: #528 palomino

Great line from the Stafford story:

“I don’t hate God. I’m not against America and apple pie,” Willis said. “We just have to protect what’s left for commercial development.”
530 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:38:02pm

re: #520 tradewind

…and yet I see you took it anyway.
Cheers.

Tsk tsk. You had already responded to that comment, tradewind dear.

531 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:38:44pm

re: #528 palomino

They say San Antonio is the capital of megachurches now, but Houston is the only one with a church previously used as the home of an NBA team. What was called the Summit from 1975-2000 was a great place for concerts, basketball and hockey games, etc. Now it’s where Joel Osteen saves souls and prints fat stacks of cash, not necessarily in that order.

Yup, that’s the place. My brother sold and designed the mega media systems for the conversion. Made him mucho bucks.

532 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:40:32pm

re: #529 windsagio

It really is an issue for the town. They have tried so hard top bring in business. They built this beautiful convention center there but it’s sitting there without so many other businesses that could benefit from it and support it.

533 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:42:33pm

re: #532 allegro

Especially since most of the churches aren’t even for residents. They’re just there to take advantage of lax zoning laws.

534 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:43:50pm

re: #533 windsagio

Especially since most of the churches aren’t even for residents. They’re just there to take advantage of lax zoning laws.

Cynical much?

535 tradewind  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:44:30pm

re: #530 Nimed
Good to know you’re on it.
Still sad that you weren’t hall monitor as a child?
You can work that out here.

536 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:45:28pm

re: #534 b_sharp

He’s quite correct. Most of the people who go to those churches don’t live in the town.

537 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:46:41pm

re: #497 Gus 802

bwahahahahaha…..

538 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:47:01pm

re: #536 allegro

He’s quite correct. Most of the people who go to those churches don’t live in the town.

Many of the people that go those churches don’t live on this planet.

539 allegro  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:47:33pm

re: #538 PT Barnum

Well, there’s that. A whole ‘nother issue altogether.

540 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:48:00pm

re: #497 Cato the Elder

I can’t wait until stealth-stalker “Buck” gets over his timeout and joins the conversation.

I bailed last night after he started getting typical. What happened? heh

541 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:59:49pm

re: #536 allegro

He’s quite correct. Most of the people who go to those churches don’t live in the town.

Stop confusing me with facts. You know facts and I are on the outs right now.

542 Michael McBacon  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:01:39pm

I cannot wrap my mind around these far-Right “activists” who say they stand for freedom but want quotas on Jews Muslims.

543 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:06:50pm

re: #535 tradewind

Good to know you’re on it.
Still sad that you weren’t hall monitor as a child?
You can work that out here.

My role in this case is more akin to that a caregiver, hon. Bitterness combined with poor short-term memory makes you especially vulnerable.

544 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:10:39pm

re: #416 captdiggs

The left, meaning you and some others have taken up the cause of *islamophobia* as their latest cause celebre in attacking the right.
That’s why antisemitic acts and church burnings are of no concern to you…no political leverage.

All of this reminds me of the far left web sites that constantly attack Israel while pretending to care about palestinians.

You all have a nice evening.

Does your downding lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight?

545 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:13:32pm

re: #542 UNIXon

I cannot wrap my mind around these far-Right “activists” who say they stand for freedom but want quotas on Jews Muslims.

I can, they’re simple tribalists who don’t believe in the constitution.

it’s hard to stand up for the rights of people you don’t agree with, that’s why that constitution is so handy! it’s much easier to just be a dumb animal, ignore the notion that we have an establishment clause and just attackattack

546 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:14:22pm

re: #294 WindUpBird

I find it a bit obvious that you leeean back on distractions from years past in a post about anti-Muslim crazies. And going after the SPLC in the process. Because you go after the strengths, right? You take an organization that does good work, and then you try and smear them.

This shit just happened on the Newt thread a few days ago, the pushback was making it about Clinton, because that’s how you guys work. That’s how you distract, that’s how you muddy the waters and throw up distractions and toss your cynicism around. That’s how you take real news on a blog, and try and make it into garbage in the comments. Like alchemy!

I favorited this comment. So true, so true.

547 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:23:37pm

re: #318 darthstar

Individual diaries posted by any of the 250,000+ members don’t mean that Kos personally advocates them. Those diaries are regularly troll-rated until they disappear by the dKos community at large. I fully expect the same to happen here as people come to post objectionable material in the LGF pages…it won’t mean that Charles sucks the big one. It’ll just mean assholes appear (and disappear) on yet another internet web site.

I’m the only one here, but this is a thread I wanted to read.

Darth, exactly. When people try to pin down and blame forever a blog based on it’s commenter’s postings (as in diaries with Kos) just shows inflexibility. Hell, I would not have joined LGF in the old days either. And that, my friends, I think is the current basis for the pushback.

548 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:31:19pm

re: #354 captdiggs

I disagree. Some mosque protests. Big deal.
No one is stringing up muslims. There was no pogrom of muslims after 9/11. There’s been no massive campaign of mosque burnings, no great number of discrimination cases.
There are more anti-semitic acts in the US than there have been similar acts against muslims in any given year. There is still more discrimination against blacks in the US than against muslims.

YET mister. If you cannot see the parallels through your hatred, well, it’s fucked. Thats the whole problem here, if it’s the “other” it’s OK.

Fucked.

549 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:34:40pm

re: #359 Cato the Elder

Thanks Cato for this:

The sign of a reasonable man or woman is the ability to see that your antagonist of yesterday may have a valid point today.

550 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:46:08pm

re: #316 Nimed

Just to nitpick a bit —it’s a very big stretch to say that Muslims conquered parts of Spain (and Portugal) during the 8th century. The Muslim campaign is usually referred to as the conquest of the Iberian Peninsula simply because there was no such thing as “Spain”, and there wouldn’t be for centuries to come. The most consensual “birth” of Spain is usually placed at the 15th century, with the unification of Castilla and Aragón. The use of the modern word “España” can be traced to 12th century documents, but that’s it.

Sorry, sloppy phrasing on my part.

//(But how can you nitpick like that, after centuries of occupation and near-genocide?)

551 captdiggs  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:12:20pm

re: #548 Stanley Sea

YET mister. If you cannot see the parallels through your hatred, well, it’s fucked. Thats the whole problem here, if it’s the “other” it’s OK.

Fucked.

Most of the “hatred” I see here emanates from those who ether think they are liberal thinkers, or pretend to be.
Blanket and broad brush statements about any who see a problem with the mosque at that site, republicans, even claims that any muslim who objects to that mosque is merely a *token* muslim…to be ignored, indicates far more prejudice and animosity than anything I have ever posted here
Seriously, some of the postings here these days are the mirror image of Geller’s rants . Just as much hate and sometimes irrationality only with a different target.

Insofar as this mosque or Islam is concerned my views are colored by my experiences, but I don’t hate any group of people. I don’t think that some here can really say that…and be honest with themselves.

552 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:39:37pm

re: #551 captdiggs

Most of the “hatred” I see here emanates from those who ether think they are liberal thinkers, or pretend to be.

Oh, really.

So you can read the post at the top of this thread and still say all the hatred is coming from liberals, huh?

Interesting.

553 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:44:14pm

re: #551 captdiggs

Most of the “hatred” I see here emanates from those who ether think they are liberal thinkers, or pretend to be.
Blanket and broad brush statements about any who see a problem with the mosque at that site, republicans, even claims that any muslim who objects to that mosque is merely a *token* muslim…to be ignored, indicates far more prejudice and animosity than anything I have ever posted here
Seriously, some of the postings here these days are the mirror image of Geller’s rants . Just as much hate and sometimes irrationality only with a different target.

Insofar as this mosque or Islam is concerned my views are colored by my experiences, but I don’t hate any group of people. I don’t think that some here can really say that…and be honest with themselves.

OMG, you are blaming it on the “liberals”

You are dangerously close to giving up everything based on your hate.

554 Crusader  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:57:51pm

re: #17 Cato the Elder

If these people win, the terrorists truly do, too.

AQ would like nothing better than to see the mosque stopped or other Muslim interests in this country infringed upon.

Geller, Yerushalmi, et al., are working for the Islamofascists.


I’ve been a member here for a long time. I remember once upon a time when Charles and a good number of the regulars here truly understood the meaning of “Never Forget” (featured in the Green subheads to the left column of the top of the page).

Its rather sad that many do indeed forget.

555 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Aug 11, 2010 12:09:51am

re: #6 SinisterBen

I have to say, there is nothing that makes me more skeptical of someone’s political motives when the group’s name contain the words: “Family”, “Friends of”, or “Freedom.”

You forgot “Peace and Justice” and “The People’s…”.

556 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Aug 11, 2010 12:20:10am

re: #108 albusteve

if the Mosquemongers had any guts at all…if they really believed in their cause, they storm the place, barricade themselves in an starve themselves into submission to make their point…anything short of that, I just can’t enjoy their tantrum

“We’re going on a hunger strike. We’ll die before we surrender!”
“Fine. We’ll break in a month from now to clean up your remains. Have a nice day.”

557 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Aug 11, 2010 1:16:42am

re: #245 CuriousLurker

Okay, the sun is going down and I’m getting ready to pack it in for the evening. Ramadan is due to start tonight pending the sighting of the new moon, so I’ll probably be retiring into deep lurk mode for the next 30 days.

In the meantime, I hope all of you stay happy & healthy.

Peace.

As Spare said, “Salaam aleikum.” Sholom aleichem, and may the next 30 days find you healthy, happy, prosperous, and content.

558 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Aug 11, 2010 1:21:47am

re: #293 albusteve

nothing beats being a heathen

We Jews ARE heathens, according to the dominant monotheistic religions.

559 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Aug 11, 2010 1:25:02am

re: #313 HoosierHoops

Being God’s chosen people isn’t the best of the best?
I would do anything to be Jewish..But alas..Life isn’t fair

“Lord, I know that we’re your chosen people, but couldn’t you choose someone else once in a while?”—Tevye

And speaking from experience, I can tell you that being Jewish in Oklahoma was no bright golden haze on the meadow.

560 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Aug 11, 2010 1:32:26am

re: #383 captdiggs

ad hominems are a poor substitute for a rational argument.

A rational argument is a waste of time with certain people. There are those who are best dealt with with ad hominems and a hearty, “Get stuffed!”

561 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Aug 11, 2010 1:33:54am

re: #397 Spare O’Lake

Actually the moehl still insists on cutting off a little more, just to make it kosher.

Measure twice, cut once.

562 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Aug 11, 2010 4:28:36am

re: #554 Crusader

I’ve been a member here for a long time. I remember once upon a time when Charles and a good number of the regulars here truly understood the meaning of “Never Forget” (featured in the Green subheads to the left column of the top of the page).

Its rather sad that many do indeed forget.

maybe you should say what you mean.

563 bratwurst  Wed, Aug 11, 2010 4:47:32am

re: #562 WindUpBird

maybe you should say what you mean.

I think his name about “about” line tell you everything you need to know.

564 ihateronpaul  Wed, Aug 11, 2010 7:08:26am

The sad thing is so many people are going to blindly, yet still knowingly, support David Yerushalmi’s hateful campaign.

565 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Aug 11, 2010 7:21:07am

re: #245 CuriousLurker

my best regards to you.

566 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 11, 2010 8:51:00am

re: #554 Crusader

And another sleeper awakes. It’s remarkable how these threads wake up the anti-Muslim crowd.

567 Steve Dutch  Wed, Aug 11, 2010 10:21:49am

I’ve sometimes made fun of PC types by referring to weird made-up groups like “Tibetan-American foot fetishists” and things of that sort, but I don’t think I could have topped “Anti-Semitic White-Supremacist Orthodox Jew.”

Umm, aren’t Jews Semites?

568 Crusader  Wed, Aug 11, 2010 3:15:38pm

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569 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 11, 2010 6:38:55pm

re: #568 Crusader

And with that, I bid you adieu, “Crusader!” I’m sure you will find other websites that let you crusade to your heart’s content. We won’t miss you.


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