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1 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:24:01pm

I guess ol' Andrew really likes dirty deeds done dirt cheap...

;-P

2 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:27:02pm

Context is everything.

3 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:27:05pm

But that's not the point. The crowd that was watching Breitbart save the goat really are a bunch of goatfuckers. When did this story become about Breitbart?

4 Digital Display  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:27:29pm

Now that is Funny!
I expect a lawsuit any day...
LOL

5 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:28:39pm

Breitbart during sex:

Who's your d-a-a-a-a-a-dy?

6 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:29:14pm

re: #3 Nimed

But that's not the point. The crowd that was watching Breitbart save the goat really are a bunch of goatfuckers. When did this story become about Breitbart?

All those motorists, laughing as they tried to run that poor goat down. Laughing, I say.

7 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:30:37pm

Farmer Wilson walks over to Farmer Jones' place and says
"Jones, I got me a problem and I gotta to go to court - I need a lawyer, do you know any?" Farmer Jones replies, "yeah, I know a couple of those guys. One is a hell of a trial lawyer, great guy but expensive as hell; the other, not so great, but the guy sure knows how to pick a jury and he's a lot cheaper." Wilson thanks his buddy and moves on thinking to himself, well I don't have a lot of money so I guess I know what I have to do.


Wilson's day in court finally comes and the first witness called to the stand is his neighbor Mrs. Smith. Mrs. Smith is sworn in and the prosecuter asks her, "Mrs. Smith, would you please tell the court what you saw on the day in question. "Why yes I can", she says, "I was doing my dishes, looking out my window over the sink when I saw Farmer Wilson come out from behind his barn and grab one of his goats". Yes mam, and then what did you see? "Well after he grabbed that goat he proceeded to drop his pants and fornicate with that there goat!" Is that all mam? "Well no, after it seemed like he had his way with that goat, the goat turned around and proceeded to lick his pecker clean!"


It was at this point of the testimony that one man on the jury turns to another man on the jury and says "you know, a good goat will do that"..

8 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:35:15pm

Coming soon: the 'email new comments' feature will let you receive only replies to your comments, in addition to the current firehose approach.

9 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:36:20pm

re: #8 Charles

Man that I'd totally use, let me track my conversations on my phone while gaming :D

10 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:36:44pm

re: #8 Charles

Coming soon: the 'email new comments' feature will let you receive only replies to your comments, in addition to the current firehose approach.

Cool! Can you throw in something that makes witty rejoinders too?

11 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:38:51pm

re: #10 PT Barnum

Cool! Can you throw in something that makes witty rejoinders too?

Here you go

Try it out!

12 palomino  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:39:43pm

Uh oh, now funny or die will go on the list of kenyan marxist websites trying to destroy America and oppress white people. There will be howls of outrage at his Bighollywood and other sites.

13 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:40:11pm

re: #11 windsagio

Here you go

Try it out!

I like this one better

Shakespearean insult generator

14 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:40:28pm

re: #11 windsagio

Here you go

Try it out!

ELIZA - a friend you could never have before

You: I have to pee

Eliza: Can you elaborate on that?

15 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:40:45pm

re: #13 PT Barnum

Comes down to style I guess, Eliza is a bit more meta.

16 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:41:35pm

re: #15 windsagio

Comes down to style I guess, Eliza is a bit more meta.

I'm not known for subtledty if you hadn't figured that out yet..

17 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:42:11pm

re: #15 windsagio

Comes down to style I guess, Eliza is a bit more meta.

Eliza is ancient.

18 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:42:22pm

Notice how I waited until after work hours to post this. That's how sensitive I am.

19 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:42:53pm

re: #17 b_sharp

Eliza is ancient.

Nothing a little botox and a boob job won't cure...

20 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:42:59pm

re: #17 b_sharp

Its fun seeing how long people take to realize they're arguing with a script :D

21 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:43:50pm

re: #18 Charles

Notice how I waited until after work hours to post this. That's how sensitive I am.

Work? I know that no one works anymore. Obama's unemployment benefits makes it so no one wants to make over $20k a year! ;)

22 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:44:39pm

re: #20 windsagio

Its fun seeing how long people take to realize they're arguing with a script :D

back in the day there was a program called rude dos that you could load as a Terminate and stay resident program on someone's PC. It would basically insult them anytime they tried to issue a DOS command. Fun times when you put it on someone's PC that wasn't terribly knowledgable.

23 deranged cat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:44:45pm

anybody else notice he said "sherol/cheryl" sherrod? (also, great video lol)

24 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:45:43pm

re: #18 Charles

Notice how I waited until after work hours to post this. That's how sensitive I am.

You're so nice!

Unfortunately, I'm at work right now, so I have to wait till my beak and try to watch it on my phone.

25 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:45:58pm

re: #22 PT Barnum

back in the day there was a program called rude dos that you could load as a Terminate and stay resident program on someone's PC. It would basically insult them anytime they tried to issue a DOS command. Fun times when you put it on someone's PC that wasn't terribly knowledgable.

I liked the old windows 3.1 program that made icons run away from the cursor. That was friggin great!

26 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:46:03pm

re: #21 SinisterBen

Work? I know that no one works anymore. Obama's unemployment benefits makes it so no one wants to make over $20k a year! ;)

That's what kills me about the whole "unemployed people are too lazy to work for a living when they can just collect unemployment" meme. I've been on unemployment. It wasn't enough to meet my expenses and I don't know how anybody would hope to live on it.

27 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:46:17pm

re: #20 windsagio

Its fun seeing how long people take to realize they're arguing with a script :D

I got my CS degree in '91. Eliza was there.

28 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:46:46pm

good night all.

hospital appointment in the morning. followed by a days slog at the sports club trying to sort things out with the playing surface and membership lists etc etc etc etc.

29 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:46:58pm

re: #24 talon_262

You're so nice!

Unfortunately, I'm at work right now, so I have to wait till my beak and try to watch it on my phone.

You have a talon and a beak?

30 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:47:07pm

re: #26 PT Barnum

That's what kills me about the whole "unemployed people are too lazy to work for a living when they can just collect unemployment" meme. I've been on unemployment. It wasn't enough to meet my expenses and I don't know how anybody would hope to live on it.

Welfare Queens, And Socialism. That's How! And Plasma TVs! Something about Cadillacs. Don't you get it?!

31 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:47:58pm

re: #27 b_sharp

I got my CS degree in '91. Eliza was there.

Someone get gramps a chair!
///

32 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:48:46pm

re: #31 Varek Raith

Someone get gramps a chair!
///

He didn't learn OOP! HERETIC!

33 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:49:23pm

re: #29 b_sharp

You have a talon and a beak?

err, meant "my break"...PIMF

34 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:49:27pm

re: #27 b_sharp

I got my CS degree in '91. Eliza was there.

It was written sometime in the mid 60s

35 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:50:08pm

re: #32 SinisterBen

He didn't learn OOP! HERETIC!

Hell..I don't think half the people out there know anything about OOP, least of all how to implement it.

36 ShaunP  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:51:25pm

re: #26 PT Barnum

That's what kills me about the whole "unemployed people are too lazy to work for a living when they can just collect unemployment" meme. I've been on unemployment. It wasn't enough to meet my expenses and I don't know how anybody would hope to live on it.

You might have missed the FL gubernatorial candidate that is running on drug testing everyone on welfare...

37 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:52:17pm

re: #35 PT Barnum

Hell..I don't think half the people out there know anything about OOP, least of all how to implement it.

I didn't get OOP.
It was beyond me, I suppose.
:P

38 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:52:56pm

re: #36 ShaunP

You might have missed the FL gubernatorial candidate that is running on drug testing everyone on welfare...

Don't get me wrong, I think there are people who make welfare a lifestyle, but I think there are ways to get around that without punishing the vast majority that just need a hand up to get back on their feet.

39 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:53:23pm

re: #35 PT Barnum

Hell..I don't think half the people out there know anything about OOP, least of all how to implement it.

Every time I see that acronym I read it as "oops..."

40 abolitionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:53:40pm

re: #34 PT Barnum

It was written sometime in the mid 60s

Eliza had a lisp. Or was it the other way around?

41 ShaunP  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:53:59pm

re: #38 PT Barnum

Don't get me wrong, I think there are people who make welfare a lifestyle, but I think there are ways to get around that without punishing the vast majority that just need a hand up to get back on their feet.

I concur. There are definitely people scheming the system. To extrapolate that to everyone, especially in this environment, is asinine...

42 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:54:11pm

re: #37 Varek Raith

I didn't get OOP.
It was beyond me, I suppose.
:P

Well he's this caveman see...

43 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:55:04pm

re: #42 PT Barnum

Well he's this caveman see...

Well played, old bean.

44 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:55:19pm

re: #39 freetoken

Every time I see that acronym I read it as "oops..."

As soon as I saw it as passing a whole set of code at once in the form of a variable, it started making sense. Mostly I use it write wrappers for functionality I use all the time.

45 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:56:17pm

re: #43 Varek Raith

Well played, old bean.

That reminds me, I just finished reading all the Jeeves stories by PG Wodehouse. Very funny stuff.

46 nines09  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:56:35pm

Now a little shout out to home schooling. Wonder who hires this masterpiece.The crazy keeps coming

47 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:57:06pm

re: #12 palomino

Uh oh, now funny or die will go on the list of kenyan marxist websites trying to destroy America and oppress white people. There will be howls of outrage at his Bighollywood and other sites.

Will Farrel has shown his true colors: He is a Fascist Progressive out to defame Andrew Breitbart to protect his idol, the Socialist Obama.

/Rodan

48 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:57:27pm

re: #46 nines09

Now a little shout out to home schooling. Wonder who hires this masterpiece.The crazy keeps coming

First comment...

Schlafly Quantuum Mecahnics
E = m * c^2
E = LIBERAL AGENDA! (Everybody Panic!)
m = Barack Obama = muslim space alien terrorist looking to take our guns in the middle of then night and insert a mind-control microchip in our brains. (NO! NOT MY ...BRAIN MEATS!)
c = Kenya parents = TERRRIST! (DERP!)

It would look so much more funnier if their was one of those computer generated memes where either Einstien or Glenn Beck were using a chalkboard.

49 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:59:13pm

re: #46 nines09

Now a little shout out to home schooling. Wonder who hires this masterpiece.The crazy keeps coming

Andy Schlafly would be a funny caricature of conservative anti-science craziness, except that he's a real person who really thinks like this, from an influential political family with lots of money. And that's not so funny.

50 nines09  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:59:29pm

He gets paid for this? What am I doing wrong?

51 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:59:54pm

re: #48 Varek Raith

Object Oriented Programming is a Liberal agenda? Good to know.

52 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:59:59pm

re: #49 Charles

Andy Schlafly would be a funny caricature of conservative anti-science craziness, except that he's a real person who really thinks like this, from an influential political family. And that's not so funny.

Conservapedia: Because reality has a liberal bias

53 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:00:16pm

AquaBuddha, meet BeerBuddha:

Ky. church: Sen. candidate Paul should retract remarks that beer would be thrown at its picnic

Republican Senate candidate Rand Paul has angered a small-town Kentucky church by saying he and other politicians who attended its fundraising picnic had to worry about having beer thrown on them.

Paul told conservative radio personality Sean Hannity Tuesday night that the picnic at St. Jerome Parish was wild and that people boo the politicians. He also said they worried beer and other objects would be thrown at them.

The picnic does not serve alcohol as it's in a dry area.

Parishioner Mark Wilson called for Paul to retract the unflattering comments. He said they might discourage families from attending the picnic.

The picnic has been a good fundraiser for the parish for 130 years. In that time, it has evolved as the traditional kickoff of the fall campaign season in Kentucky.

54 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:00:23pm

re: #52 PT Barnum

Conservapedia: Because reality has a liberal bias

Dude, who knew I could fly because liberals believe in gravity?

55 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:00:41pm

I learned today that junior instructors at Texas Tech have coined a new expression, "black helicopter parents." This refers to rightwing parents who complain that their little darlings flunked a course not because they missed class or failed to study, but because the instructor is conducting a political vendetta against "conserf-tive" families. Apparently this has become very common in recent years, with the substance of the complaints being traceable to the ravings of Rush Limbaugh, etc.

56 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:01:25pm

Andy actually pronounces his last name "braidtbart"?

What a loser. The Stormfront fucks will be all over him for being a traitor to his German heritage.

Not.

57 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:01:41pm

re: #34 PT Barnum

It was written sometime in the mid 60s

When I got my Psych degree in '80, Eliza was there.

58 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:01:43pm

re: #51 SinisterBen

Object Oriented Programming is a Liberal agenda? Good to know.

Back in the 90s when I worked for Gateway, I actually got a call from someone complaining because we referred to systems with dual hard drives as having master and slave drives.

59 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:02:22pm

re: #58 PT Barnum

Back in the 90s when I worked for Gateway, I actually got a call from someone complaining because we referred to systems with dual hard drives as having master and slave drives.

Heh.

61 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:03:19pm

re: #57 b_sharp

When I got my Psych degree in '80, Eliza was there.

She's like the Forrest Gump of Computer Science...When Grace Hopper found the first computer bug (a moth) Eliza was there!

62 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:03:49pm

re: #60 Gus 802

OT Gov. Christie to apply for $268M in federal education aid bill signed by Pres. Obama

Checkmate!

But he'll campaign on how evil government spending is.

63 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:04:16pm

re: #62 PT Barnum

But he'll campaign on how evil government spending is.

Exactly. Hence the "checkmate".

64 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:04:38pm

re: #61 PT Barnum

She's like the Forrest Gump of Computer Science...When Grace Hopper found the first computer bug (a moth) Eliza was there!

When Ada Lovelace wrote the first computer programs..Eliza was there!

65 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:04:46pm

re: #55 Shiplord Kirel

I learned today that junior instructors at Texas Tech have coined a new expression, "black helicopter parents." This refers to rightwing parents who complain that their little darlings flunked a course not because they missed class or failed to study, but because the instructor is conducting a political vendetta against "conserf-tive" families. Apparently this has become very common in recent years, with the substance of the complaints being traceable to the ravings of Rush Limbaugh, etc.

Damn, wish my folks had been into this kinda thinking. Then I wouldn't have gotten my ear talked off constantly about how I needed to get my ass in gear and do more than occupy a chair in the classroom.

66 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:05:47pm

re: #65 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Damn, wish my folks had been into this kinda thinking. Then I wouldn't have gotten my ear talked off constantly about how I needed to get my ass in gear and do more than occupy a chair in the classroom.

"But I proved them!"
-Phillip J. Fry

67 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:05:53pm

re: #65 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Damn, wish my folks had been into this kinda thinking. Then I wouldn't have gotten my ear talked off constantly about how I needed to get my ass in gear and do more than occupy a chair in the classroom.

Nothing like enabling your kids to have an unsustainable sense of entitlement.

68 jaunte  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:06:25pm

re: #56 Cato the Elder

Andy actually pronounces his last name "braidtbart"?

What a loser. The Stormfront fucks will be all over him for being a traitor to his German heritage.

Not.

What does breit bart mean in German? Is it a kind of weasel?

69 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:06:28pm

re: #7 PT Barnum

Anyone else noticing the rise in bestiality jokes around here?

70 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:06:32pm

re: #35 PT Barnum

Hell..I don't think half the people out there know anything about OOP, least of all how to implement it.

I wrote an OOP DOS graphical interface in '89 for an infrastructure design program. On a 386SX. And 5-1/4"floppies.

71 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:07:37pm

re: #70 b_sharp

I wrote an OOP DOS graphical interface in '89 for an infrastructure design program. On a 386SX. And 5-1/4"floppies.

I wasn't even doing programming back then. In 89 I was still working in radio. Thank god I figured out that wasn't my calling.

72 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:08:18pm

re: #51 SinisterBen

Object Oriented Programming is a Liberal agenda? Good to know.

Back in its heyday, the Soviet Union had such concepts as "politically correct vegetables." Cabbage for example was a righteous veggie for Reds because it yielded a high nutritional value relative to the resources put into producing it. Lettuce, on the other hand, was a bourgeois affectation and therefore subversive.

Wingnuts remind me of this when they start finding not just political significance, but conscious political intent, in nearly everything.

73 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:08:19pm

re: #71 PT Barnum

I wasn't even doing programming back then. In 89 I was still working in radio. Thank god I figured out that wasn't my calling.

Wow, I would like to note, that that medium could have made you a fortune, if you were willing to peddle in lies.

74 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:08:37pm

re: #48 Varek Raith

I have a whole miniblog on that crap.

75 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:08:39pm

So, anyone keeping up with the Primaries that happened today?

76 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:09:06pm

re: #72 Shiplord Kirel

Back in its heyday, the Soviet Union had such concepts as "politically correct vegetables." Cabbage for example was a righteous veggie for Reds because it yielded a high nutritional value relative to the resources put into producing it. Lettuce, on the other hand, was a bourgeois affectation and therefore subversive.

Wingnuts remind me of this when they start finding not just political significance, but conscious political intent, in nearly everything.

Araguaya and Mustard?

77 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:09:32pm

re: #73 SinisterBen

Wow, I would like to note, that that medium could have made you a fortune, if you were willing to peddle in lies.

I wasn't, which was why I got out...I've determined I have a low tolerance for bullshit which pretty much disqualifies me from anything marketing related.

78 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:09:59pm

re: #62 PT Barnum

Actually, watch the unions complain because that money is part of the race to the top funds - and are meant for charter schools and improving public schools - a tacit admission that public schools are failing (and there are more than a few in NJ that meet that description). The unions (NJEA etc.) have been out against Christie's efforts to reform and improve schools because they demand more from the teachers - whether it is forgoing raises, limiting pensions/switching to 401ks, or perhaps most contentiously - merit pay.

79 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:10:14pm

re: #76 SinisterBen

Araguaya and Mustard?

Wasn't there something like that during the Dukakis campaign?

80 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:11:11pm

re: #67 PT Barnum

Nothing like enabling your kids to have an unsustainable sense of entitlement.

Yeah, gotta love it. When parents aren't bitching that teachers are coddling kids too much, they're bitching that the school's too hard and the teachers "have an agenda."

81 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:11:16pm

re: #79 PT Barnum

Wasn't there something like that during the Dukakis campaign?

Ha! I was eight at the time... I remember... uh... well my parents argued a lot!

82 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:11:48pm

re: #49 Charles

Andy Schlafly would be a funny caricature of conservative anti-science craziness, except that he's a real person who really thinks like this, from an influential political family with lots of money. And that's not so funny.

Because you know that Einstein was interested in bringing down the Christian purity of white America back in 1905 when he came up with it. That's how foresighted those international Jews are.

The other sad thing is it really is only a matter of time from when they move from hating on Muslims to hating on Jews. That is not to diminish how terribly they are treating American Muslims or how wrong that is.

It's just that we Jews have heard this music before and we know how the piece ends.

83 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:12:10pm

re: #78 lawhawk

Actually, watch the unions complain because that money is part of the race to the top funds - and are meant for charter schools and improving public schools - a tacit admission that public schools are failing (and there are more than a few in NJ that meet that description). The unions (NJEA etc.) have been out against Christie's efforts to reform and improve schools because they demand more from the teachers - whether it is forgoing raises, limiting pensions/switching to 401ks, or perhaps most contentiously - merit pay.

The problem with measuring teacher productivity is that it assumes a one size fits all approach to education. Being ADD myself, I know that I would have done much better in a more hands on environment than sitting in a classroom studying the same material year after year.

84 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:12:22pm

I don't trust that video above... I think it's been edited.

85 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:12:46pm

re: #76 SinisterBen

Araguaya and Mustard?

Arugula is definitely a commie plot. Mustard is good though, for its association with hot dogs and baseball if nothing else.

86 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:12:54pm

re: #82 LudwigVanQuixote

So:
Image: 1243468098031.jpg
??

87 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:12:58pm

re: #84 Walter L. Newton

I don't trust that video above... I think it's been edited.

LSHAWM!

88 avanti  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:13:24pm

I posted the video on my Facebook page and got a quick e-mail to this link where they claim Shirely expanded the Pigford payment.

link...

I replied with this:

"GOP Sen. Grassley introduced legislation to reopen Pigford case "to allow more black farmers to join and to provide more funding to settle claims." Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA) has sponsored or co-sponsored a number of bills seeking to allow more African American farmers to join the settlement of discrimination claims by USDA. According to a July 23 Time report:

[A]s a Senator[,] Obama had championed the black farmers' lawsuit against the USDA.

Along with Republican Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa, Obama introduced legislation to reopen the case (that was initially settled in 1999) to allow more black farmers to join and to provide more funding to settle claims. The legislative language was added to the Farm Bill passed in 2008 and its inclusion led to a second Administration-negotiated settlement in February of this year for $1.15 billion. Yet the money to actually fund that settlement must be approved by Congress, and so far the House and Senate have only been able to vote for it as part of different pieces of legislation. The money will not be appropriated unless both chambers vote on a single bill that includes the funding."


More:

Media Matters.

89 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:13:24pm

"Aldous" is out of here, by the way, after a software-aided review.

90 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:13:42pm

re: #85 Shiplord Kirel

Arugula is definitely a commie plot. Mustard is good though, for its association with hot dogs and baseball if nothing else.

You mustard been a beautiful baby!

91 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:14:13pm

re: #87 PT Barnum

LSHAWM!

And what the fuck does that mean?

92 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:14:16pm

re: #89 Charles

"Aldous" is out of here, by the way, after a software-aided review.

Who?

/

93 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:14:23pm

re: #90 PT Barnum

Another new keyboard today. And there was no reason to laugh at that. Well done.

94 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:14:28pm

re: #89 Charles

"Aldous" is out of here, by the way, after a software-aided review.

Huxley? Or did I miss the festivities?

95 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:14:38pm

re: #68 jaunte

What does breit bart mean in German? Is it a kind of weasel?

It means "wide beard"

96 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:14:54pm

re: #91 Walter L. Newton

And what the fuck does that mean?

Laughed So Hard Almost Wet Myself

97 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:14:58pm

re: #92 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Anti-Israel troll. They do still exist.

98 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:15:29pm

re: #96 PT Barnum

Laughed So Hard Almost Wet Myself

Never mind... I wish I hadn't asked. Go clean up and come back when you smell better.

99 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:15:51pm

re: #93 SinisterBen

Another new keyboard today. And there was no reason to laugh at that. Well done.

I have a spare if you need one...

100 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:15:55pm

re: #97 Charles

Anti-Israel troll. They do still exist.

I knew who you were speaking of. But at the same time, I've paid so little attention to his nattering, that it took me a second to remember.

101 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:16:00pm

re: #84 Walter L. Newton

I don't trust that video above... I think it's been edited.

in reality, the goat was fucking Andy....
faux

102 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:16:27pm

Back to Breitbart though...

I want to protest this unfair, and out of context, mischaracterization of Breitbart. He would never stoop so low as to bang a goat.

For one thing goats are stubborn and they keep turning him down.

For another, he smells too much like Pamela Geller.

Now had this been video of him masturbating to a cross burning, while listening to Beck and dreaming that someday, he can get Beck's job, and using a cheap Chinese made reproduction Constitution to wipe up his rancid love stains... That I could have believed.

103 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:16:31pm

Update on that other target game with a likeness of Obama -- in Seaside Heights, NJ:

Obama game now covered with plastic bag

SEASIDE HEIGHTS — For a $1 a throw, tourists on the boardwalk can get a chance to take out their frustrations over the direction of the country on an effigy of President Barack Obama.

Now, a video of the game has gone viral on the Internet and is provoking outrage on some blogs and websites, but the daytime manager at the amusement stand can't figure out what the fuss is all about.

"I guess some people do,'' Scott Simmons answered when asked whether some might find the Obama figure offensive. "Most people laugh and think it's funny. I voted for Obama.''

But by 1 p.m., "Lucky Leo's'' had placed a bag over Obama's head and shut off the carousel.

"I think it's inappropriate. It makes us look bad, in my opinion. It's the presidency in general, it wouldn't matter who was president,'' said Frank Frazetta, 53, of East Stroudsburg, Pa., who was with his 10-year-old daughter on the boardwalk...

104 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:17:09pm

Tonight is my wedding anniversary. Zedushka and I have been together for 39 years.

105 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:17:15pm

re: #101 albusteve

in reality, the goat was fucking Andy...
faux

Damn that Liberal Photoshop! It makes fat girls crop skinny!

Image: myspace-cropping-fail.jpg

106 jaunte  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:17:48pm

re: #104 Alouette

Congratulations to Zedushka!

107 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:18:13pm

re: #104 Alouette

Tonight is my wedding anniversary. Zedushka and I have been together for 39 years.

What are you doing on LGF! Why aren't you out celebrating? Or is that a bad question...

108 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:18:25pm

I won't go so far as to say that Andrew Breitbart is a goat fucker, but the way he looked at that goat's ass at the end of the video tells me all I need to know.

109 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:18:34pm

re: #89 Charles

"Aldous" is out of here, by the way, after a software-aided review.

Thank you for that. That guy had 'troll' written all over him.

110 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:18:46pm

re: #104 Alouette

Tonight is my wedding anniversary. Zedushka and I have been together for 39 years.

A gliklekhn yortog!

111 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:18:47pm

re: #107 PT Barnum

What are you doing on LGF! Why aren't you out celebrating? Or is that a bad question...

BAAAAAD Question. You smile and nod in these situations.

112 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:19:23pm

Sleepy, sleepy, sleepy...
Night!

113 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:20:06pm

re: #107 PT Barnum

What are you doing on LGF! Why aren't you out celebrating? Or is that a bad question...

We are having our festive dinner tomorrow night. :)

114 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:20:32pm

re: #103 Gus 802

Update on that other target game with a likeness of Obama -- in Seaside Heights, NJ:

Obama game now covered with plastic bag

I gotta admit, I think this was a case of going too far, namely in the response to the target. Pointing out and criticizing ODS is one thing, but we shouldn't become so fanatical about it as to create this impression that the man is above ol'-fashioned ribbing.

115 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:20:48pm

re: #113 Alouette

We are having our festive dinner tomorrow night. :)

So as a freshly engaged moron, how expensive do these things get?

116 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:21:00pm

re: #89 Charles

"Aldous" is out of here, by the way, after a software-aided review.

Saw that comin'.

117 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:21:09pm

re: #86 SinisterBen

So:
Image: 1243468098031.jpg
??

Yeah that's right.

OK I admit it.

You know the polio vaccine, modern virus theory, relativity, electroweak unification, string theory and most of quantum mechanics...

Yeah that's all out fault.

118 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:21:34pm

re: #104 Alouette

Tonight is my wedding anniversary. Zedushka and I have been together for 39 years.

Mazel Tov! May you have at least 39 more!

119 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:21:43pm

re: #111 SinisterBen

BAAAD Question. You smile and nod in these situations.

I had to learn that with my wife too...NEVER answer when they ask you how they look. If you say they look great, they'll disagree with you, and if you tell them they don't look great, they'll ask you why not, and therin lies great peril.

120 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:22:00pm

Looks like the CO GOP is having a tough time deciding what flavor of Tea Partier they like:
[Link: www.thedenverchannel.com...]

Either Ken "Dumbasses" Buck, or Jane TotalFlake Norton.

121 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:22:11pm

re: #102 LudwigVanQuixote

Back to Breitbart though...

I want to protest this unfair, and out of context, mischaracterization of Breitbart. He would never stoop so low as to bang a goat.

For one thing goats are stubborn and they keep turning him down.

For another, he smells too much like Pamela Geller.

Now had this been video of him masturbating to a cross burning, while listening to Beck and dreaming that someday, he can get Beck's job, and using a cheap Chinese made reproduction Constitution to wipe up his rancid love stains... That I could have believed.

You are so crude.

I laughed part of my ass off.

122 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:22:14pm

Indeed, many of the CO races look to be quite tight.

123 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:22:25pm

re: #117 LudwigVanQuixote

AND you twist up my Christmas lights?! ::insert vader yelling NO pic::

124 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:22:53pm

Regular expressions, how do I love thee? Let me count the ways.

125 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:23:03pm

re: #104 Alouette

Tonight is my wedding anniversary. Zedushka and I have been together for 39 years.

Wow. In this day that is very unusual.

126 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:23:25pm

re: #113 Alouette

We are having our festive dinner tomorrow night. :)

Congratulations in any case. I hope me and Mrs. Barnum get to do that someday, of course we'll both be almost 80, but it's something to hope for nonetheless.

127 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:23:39pm

re: #115 SinisterBen

So as a freshly engaged moron, how expensive do these things get?

London broil: $18.00
Corn on the Cob: $2.00
Tossed salad: $1.50
Golan Merlot: $15.99

9 kids and 26 grandkids: PRICELESS.

128 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:23:43pm

re: #124 Charles

Regular expressions, how do I love thee? Let me count the ways.

Hehehe. That is a cool technique.

129 lostlakehiker  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:23:56pm

re: #62 PT Barnum

But he'll campaign on how evil government spending is.

There's nothing inconsistent about that. The governor's job is to do the best he can for his state under the circumstances. Even if he believes that such grants do not serve the broader national interest.

As to the less serious side of this post, such crude humor really gets my goat. I mean, she's got feelings too.

///

130 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:24:06pm

re: #119 PT Barnum

I have learned to express my disdain for simple things like, "no you don't look great."
Then I move a hair around.
"Now you look great."

This mostly works always. Like var in C#.

131 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:24:16pm

re: #115 SinisterBen

So as a freshly engaged moron, how expensive do these things get?

not nearly as expensive as if you forget...

132 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:24:20pm

re: #104 Alouette

Congratulations and best wishes, Alouette and Zedushka.

133 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:24:20pm

re: #127 Alouette

London broil: $18.00
Corn on the Cob: $2.00
Tossed salad: $1.50
Golan Merlot: $15.99

9 kids and 26 grandkids: PRICELESS.

Woman, that is a platoon!

134 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:24:40pm

re: #124 Charles

Regular expressions, how do I love thee? Let me count the ways.

while Love=true
iWays ++

135 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:24:44pm

re: #117 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah that's right.

OK I admit it.

You know the polio vaccine, modern virus theory, relativity, electroweak unification, string theory and most of quantum mechanics...

Yeah that's all our fault.

Did you take a look at the Conservative Red Guard called John Joseph Jay on the previous thread? That man is murderous rage personified.

136 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:25:33pm

re: #135 Dark_Falcon

Did you take a look at the Conservative Red Guard called John Joseph Jay on the previous thread? That man is murderous rage personified.

I had quite a lot to say on the last thread about the likes of him.

137 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:25:54pm

re: #127 Alouette

London broil: $18.00
Corn on the Cob: $2.00
Tossed salad: $1.50
Golan Merlot: $15.99

9 kids and 26 grandkids: PRICELESS.

Sounds lovely. Congratulations.

138 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:26:15pm

re: #114 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I gotta admit, I think this was a case of going too far, namely in the response to the target. Pointing out and criticizing ODS is one thing, but we shouldn't become so fanatical about it as to create this impression that the man is above ol'-fashioned ribbing.

I don't know. Haven't really given too much thought into this case. Since it was utilizing a ball instead of a toy firearm perhaps it is more in line with traditional boardwalk style games. The video of the young mans verbalization that went viral seemed rather off the mark.

139 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:26:35pm

re: #134 darthstar

Good lord, see this is why we need QA:

var iWays = 0;
while (love == true)
{
iWays++;
}

140 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:27:05pm

re: #133 LudwigVanQuixote

Woman, that is a platoon!

Zionist overlords need soldiers.

141 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:27:08pm

How can you not love a regular expression that's this cute?

preg_match_all('/^re: #\d{1,4} (.+?)$/im', $s, $matches);

142 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:27:17pm

re: #103 Gus 802

Update on that other target game with a likeness of Obama -- in Seaside Heights, NJ:

"I think it's inappropriate. It makes us look bad, in my opinion. It's the presidency in general, it wouldn't matter who was president,'' said Frank Frazetta, 53, of East Stroudsburg, Pa., who was with his 10-year-old daughter on the boardwalk."

That's all anyone needs to keep in mind when they think about doing stupid shit like the Obama target game...it demeans the office of the President of the United States and make you look like a fucking idiot. Obama, W, Clinton, whoever just happens to be President at the time...valid criticism and even satire is part of American politics, but bitter, divisive, destructive shit shouldn't be (although it has since before we were a nation).

143 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:27:20pm

Meanwhile down in Georgia it looks like Newt's endorsement carried more weight than The Sarah's:

[Link: sos.georgia.gov...]

Deal was Newt's choice, Handel was The Sarah's.

144 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:27:24pm

re: #139 SinisterBen

Good lord, see this is why we need QA:

var iWays = 0;
while (love == true)
{
iWays++;
}

I'm a VB programmer....but I understand just enough C++ to know what you mean.

145 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:28:03pm

re: #122 freetoken

Lots of races around the country. Looks like WWE honco Linda McMahon is leading in her race for gov on the GOP side in CT.

146 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:28:07pm

re: #143 freetoken

Meanwhile down in Georgia it looks like Newt's endorsement carried more weight than The Sarah's:

[Link: sos.georgia.gov...]

Deal was Newt's choice, Handel was The Sarah's.

He was more than they could Handel..

147 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:28:51pm

re: #140 Alouette

Zionist overlords need soldiers.

Seriously. I do adore you.

148 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:29:03pm

re: #144 PT Barnum

I'm a VB programmer...but I understand just enough C++ to know what you mean.

See I want to insert another Darth Vader yelling No pic here... instead I'll go weep in the corner as I spend the next 3 days converting VB to C# at work, because damnit who codes in VB these days?

149 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:29:19pm

re: #145 lawhawk

Lots of races around the country. Looks like WWE honco Linda McMahon is leading in her race for gov on the GOP side in CT.

If she hadn't body slammed her opponent at a campaign appearance she'd be even further ahead...

150 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:29:19pm

re: #139 SinisterBen

Good lord, see this is why we need QA:

var iWays = 0;
while (love == true)
{
iWays++;
}

no way out - fail.

151 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:29:42pm

re: #150 Walter L. Newton

How does the love ever stop for RegEx?

152 Digital Display  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:30:27pm

The Pixar story on CNBC is just amazing tonight...

153 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:30:50pm

re: #104 Alouette

Tonight is my wedding anniversary. Zedushka and I have been together for 39 years.

Huzzah!!!

My folks made it to 35 years last August before my dad passed away in April...my mom still misses him a lot, as we all do.

154 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:30:55pm

re: #145 lawhawk

That was a gimme though, as Schiff is a libertarian fundamentalist nut (might work in TX but not in Conn.) and the other guy dropped out. McMahon actually won the first round (run by the Party), but because the others wouldn't concede this vote was necessary.

I expect the (D) to carry the state.

155 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:30:57pm

re: #145 lawhawk

Lots of races around the country. Looks like WWE honco Linda McMahon is leading in her race for gov on the GOP side in CT.

I wonder what her naked playboy photos will do for her in the general election?

156 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:31:23pm

re: #148 SinisterBen

See I want to insert another Darth Vader yelling No pic here... instead I'll go weep in the corner as I spend the next 3 days converting VB to C# at work, because damnit who codes in VB these days?

VB 6 or VB.Net?

I've been making a living as a VBA developer for the last few years (You can do some pretty cool things with Access)

But I'm moving to VB.Net because I have to.

157 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:32:53pm

re: #148 SinisterBen

See I want to insert another Darth Vader yelling No pic here... instead I'll go weep in the corner as I spend the next 3 days converting VB to C# at work, because damnit who codes in VB these days?

Everybody using MS Access.

158 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:32:54pm

re: #146 PT Barnum

He was more than they could Handel..

*GROAN*

159 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:33:18pm

re: #139 SinisterBen

Good lord, see this is why we need QA:

var iWays = 0;
while (love == true)
{
iWays++;
}

I use a program that removes the need for semi-colons and curly braces...but I did leave an equal sign off...oh, and I'm actually a QA engineer myself. (doh!)

160 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:34:19pm

re: #155 LudwigVanQuixote

I wonder what her naked playboy photos will do for her in the general election?

You mean her employees' Playboy gigs?

McMahon played it smart - in 2008 she ran for the school board and had her husband enforce the "PG" mentality across the board in the company (thus no more Playboy spreads, or sex scenes in the TV products, etc.)

161 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:34:42pm

re: #156 PT Barnum

VB 6 or VB.Net?

I've been making a living as a VBA developer for the last few years (You can do some pretty cool things with Access)

But I'm moving to VB.Net because I have to.

Hehe, well I have been coding C# for 4 years now, about 15 years total coding experience. I have been coding VB since VB3, so I understand VBA, but with SQL and whatnot, Access programming makes me cry. I don't have a nice IDE, and I'll be damned if I can remember what all the ADO objects do anymore without some intellisense prompting.

162 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:34:46pm

Teabagger and UN conspiracy theorist Dan Maes is leading plagiarist Scott McInnis in the Colorado Republican gubernatorial primary.

Dan Maes 51.5% (128,958)
Scott McInnis 48.4% (121,003)

[Link: data.denverpost.com...]

163 Digital Display  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:35:01pm

re: #157 b_sharp

Everybody using MS Access.

We are an Oracle house..Strictly PL/SQL developing forms

164 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:35:25pm

re: #160 freetoken

You mean her employees' Playboy gigs?

McMahon played it smart - in 2008 she ran for the school board and had her husband enforce the "PG" mentality across the board in the company (thus no more Playboy spreads, or sex scenes in the TV products, etc.)

Actually I meant not only those but her daughter's.

Really WWE has a not so GOP friendly history.

165 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:35:36pm

re: #159 darthstar

Hehe, I meant no disrespect sir!

-- Says the lowly level 2 dwerp.

166 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:36:22pm

re: #124 Charles

Regular expressions, how do I love thee? Let me count the ways.

You mean you used linguistic analysis on his ass?

167 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:36:26pm

re: #151 SinisterBen

How does the love ever stop for RegEx?

I don't know RegEx. I am a underemployed Oracle PL/SQL developer and Visual FoxPro guru... currently working in a supermarket, part time, do some part time programming from home, but I don't know C... evidently as a coder of 30 years, I can basically read most code.

But no, RegEx, don't know what you mean, a standard function I suspect.

168 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:36:41pm

re: #162 Gus 802

Yup, the CO GOP has gone full metal nuts. One would think that Tancredo leaving the party would have helped, but he'll be replaced by a dozen just as bad or worse.

169 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:36:50pm

re: #162 Gus 802

Teabagger and UN conspiracy theorist Dan Maes is leading plagiarist Scott McInnis in the Colorado Republican gubernatorial primary.

Dan Maes 51.5% (128,958)
Scott McInnis 48.4% (121,003)

[Link: data.denverpost.com...]

Good! The more whacko teabaggers that win slots, the more seats republicans lose in the general elections.

170 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:37:03pm

Hillary for Vice President?

As President Obama sinks in the polls, Democrats and liberal pundits inevitably are searching for a scapegoat. The most likely victim appears to be gaffe-prone Vice President Joe Biden, who has become the focus of speculation that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton just might replace him on the 2012 Democratic ticket.

Former Virginia Gov. Doug Wilder, his state's first African-American governor, touched off the controversy. Writing at Politico.com last week, Mr. Wilder argued that Mr. Biden's tenure has been undistinguished and chock full of "too many YouTube moments." He charged that Mr. Biden "has continued to undermine what little confidence the public may have had in him."

By way of contrast, Mr. Wilder says that Hillary Clinton has excelled in her role. "Clinton has been nothing but a team player who has earned good marks since being asked to serve as secretary of state." Having Mrs. Clinton join the 2012 ticket, he said, would revive the Democratic Party and reestablish the party's working-class voters who found her appealing during the 2012 primaries against Mr. Obama.

Pundits jumped on Mr. Wilder's comments and expressed near-universal approval. On his syndicated national show, Chris Matthews of MSNBC assembled a panel to discuss the Wilder intervention. Howard Fineman of Newsweek, a longtime Hillary watcher, said Mrs. Clinton would accept a place on the 2012 ticket "in a second." John Heilemann, a reporter New York magazine, said the major obstacle would be to "figure out a way for Biden to slide aside happily" and suggested that Mr. Biden replace Mrs. Clinton as Secretary of State.

Along the way, Mr. Heilemann outlined why President Obama just might want to have a steadier hand at his side for his re-election campaign: "The Republican attack on Obama is going to revolve around 'too liberal,' but also 'too incompetent.' . . . They're going to say, 'Look, you hired this guy. He was too young for this job. He didn't know what he was doing. He didn't have the experience, and look what's happened.'"

Hmmm. Sounds a lot like the campaign Mrs. Clinton ran against Barack Obama in 2008, complete with that infamous commercial asking voters who they wanted in the White House when a 3 a.m. crisis call came in.

171 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:37:19pm

re: #162 Gus 802

Teabagger and UN conspiracy theorist Dan Maes is leading plagiarist Scott McInnis in the Colorado Republican gubernatorial primary.

Dan Maes 51.5% (128,958)
Scott McInnis 48.4% (121,003)

[Link: data.denverpost.com...]

He's the one who exposed the Red bicycle plot. Btw, is it any coincidence that a movie about Che Guevara was called "The Bicycle Diaries?" I think not.

172 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:37:24pm

re: #161 SinisterBen

Hehe, well I have been coding C# for 4 years now, about 15 years total coding experience. I have been coding VB since VB3, so I understand VBA, but with SQL and whatnot, Access programming makes me cry. I don't have a nice IDE, and I'll be damned if I can remember what all the ADO objects do anymore without some intellisense prompting.

Access is like dating a supermodel..it's pretty but temperamental. It does make a very good front end for databases, since a lot of the stuff you have to code yourself in VB is already built in in Access.

I can pull data out of just about any data source I want to using ODBC and pass through queries. Writing requires a little work sometimes, but otherwise it works pretty smooth.

173 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:37:26pm

re: #162 Gus 802

I was guffawing when I read the first article about the UN plot to take over the US via bike paths. WTF?

174 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:37:57pm

re: #170 Racer X

As President Obama sinks in the polls, Democrats and liberal pundits inevitably are searching for a scapegoat.


Lol@wingnuts.
C'mon, reality isn't that scary, is it?

175 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:38:29pm

re: #173 SinisterBen

I was guffawing when I read the first article about the UN plot to take over the US via bike paths. WTF?

Yeah. Denver. It's run just like the UN here. Socialism everywhere.

//

176 Cato the Elder  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:38:34pm

re: #68 jaunte

What does breit bart mean in German? Is it a kind of weasel?

It's actually a cool old German name, meaning "Broadbeard".

Like a pirate or something.

This guy is just a regular old goathumper.

177 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:38:41pm

re: #164 LudwigVanQuixote

Actually I meant not only those but her daughter's.

Really WWE has a not so GOP friendly history.

But the McMahon's have always been noted as being Republicans and slightly conservative (fiscally). The fascinating thing is that their product is one of the few "sports" programs that appeal more to non-Republicans (there was a poll a few months ago to determine the political bent of sports fans.)

178 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:38:44pm

re: #170 Racer X

Biden has been pretty quiet all around and Hilary would be much too polarizing.

If the Dems have anyone to blame it is their own inability to go on the offensive.

179 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:39:39pm

re: #178 LudwigVanQuixote

Biden has been pretty quiet all around and Hilary would be much too polarizing.

If the Dems have anyone to blame it is their own inability to go on the offensive.

It looks like the right is more offensive than the left.

180 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:39:58pm

Meanwhile, Ned Lamont is losing in his primary bid to be Gov in CT.

And in other news - Rand Paul claims that he isn't a libertarian (no shock there), but is a constitutional conservative (which makes little sense when he's quite willing to ignore vast parts of the Constitution and accumulated jurisprudence).

He keeps talking about how the Founders were into limited government, even as the Federalists were busy calling for a strong central government to rectify all the problems with the articles of confederation.

181 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:40:17pm

White House spokesman blasts liberal critics

'They will be satisfied when we have Canadian healthcare and we've eliminated the Pentagon,' Robert Gibbs tells a newspaper in remarks that bring a festering disenchantment into the open.

Festering tensions between the White House and liberal activists flared Tuesday, with presidential Press Secretary Robert Gibbs scolding what he called "the professional left" for its vocal objections to President Obama's record.

In an interview with the Hill newspaper, the president's chief spokesman voiced disdain for liberal critics who've likened Obama to former President George W. Bush.

"These people ought to be drug tested," Gibbs said. "They will be satisfied when we have Canadian healthcare and we've eliminated the Pentagon. That's not reality. They wouldn't be satisfied if Dennis Kucinich was president."
Later in the day, Gibbs put out a statement saying he had spoken "inartfully."

"I watch too much cable, I admit," he said.

Still, the dust-up underscored the tough political position in which the president finds himself. Left and right are unhappy with him, narrowing the political base that Obama needs to pass legislation and avoid losses in the November midterm election.

Until this point, Obama and liberal activists have largely minimized their disagreements in public. But Gibbs' comments could strain the uneasy alliance, ushering in a period where mutual disenchantment is voiced more openly.

The backlash against Gibbs was swift. One congressman, Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), called on him to resign.

182 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:41:02pm

re: #178 LudwigVanQuixote

Biden has been pretty quiet all around and Hilary would be much too polarizing.

If the Dems have anyone to blame it is their own inability to go on the offensive.

Exactly they need to start kicking some ass and quit being so damned polite.

183 avanti  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:41:51pm

re: #155 LudwigVanQuixote

I wonder what her naked playboy photos will do for her in the general election?

What are you talking about ???

184 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:42:18pm

re: #156 PT Barnum

VB 6 or VB.Net?

I've been making a living as a VBA developer for the last few years (You can do some pretty cool things with Access)

But I'm moving to VB.Net because I have to.

You have my sympathy. At least it's not Java.

Meanwhile, I'm trying to get Open Genera running on my MacBook. (emulator of the last of the great LispM's). Lisp - the most to be had programming.

185 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:42:25pm

re: #180 lawhawk

Saw that coming; the Paul family are experts at exploiting fringe libertarian ideology for grass-roots support, then abandoning it when politically necessary to get elected.

186 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:42:45pm

re: #182 PT Barnum

Exactly they need to start kicking some ass and quit being so damned polite.

Alan Grayson is probably the best at using inflammatory rhetoric. I thought Franken might but he's turned out to be a total wonk.

187 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:42:52pm

re: #182 PT Barnum

Exactly they need to start kicking some ass and quit being so damned polite.

It is a little frustrating at times but the Dems are moving their agenda along pretty well. There have been roadblocks but they're accomplishing pretty much everything they want to.

188 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:43:30pm

re: #186 PT Barnum

Alan Grayson is probably the best at using inflammatory rhetoric. I thought Franken might but he's turned out to be a total wonk.

A wonk? I am confused?

189 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:44:14pm

re: #178 LudwigVanQuixote

Biden has been pretty quiet all around and Hilary would be much too polarizing.

If the Dems have anyone to blame it is their own inability to go on the offensive.

I predict a shakeup in the administration sooner rather than later.

190 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:44:21pm

re: #188 SinisterBen

A wonk? I am confused?

Wonk meaning he knows policy and actually works to get things done rather than just shooting his mouth off.

191 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:45:17pm

re: #189 Racer X

I predict a shakeup in the administration sooner rather than later.

They need to find someone who can get out there and tear the GOP a new one on a regular basis without really tarring the Administration at the same time.

192 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:45:49pm

re: #186 PT Barnum

Alan Grayson is probably the best at using inflammatory rhetoric. I thought Franken might but he's turned out to be a total wonk.

Anthony Wiener's been getting louder, too.

193 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:45:59pm

re: #190 PT Barnum

Wonk meaning he knows policy and actually works to get things done rather than just shooting his mouth off.

Lord, in the space and time it took to post my stupid, I looked up the word. Who knew 'wonk' meant expert?! Not me. Because I don't read enough!

194 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:46:06pm

re: #191 PT Barnum

They need to find someone who can get out there and tear the GOP a new one on a regular basis without really tarring the Administration at the same time.

Ed Shultz is a yutz and Olbermann is too shrill. Maddow is too reality based to be good at it.

195 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:46:14pm

re: #188 SinisterBen

A [Video]wonk? I am confused?

Wonk: A studious or hardworking person.

In other words, Franken is doing his job and relatively well, from what I hear.

As much as the right-wing wanted him to be a complete flameout, he turned out to halfway decent (as far as I know).

196 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:46:28pm

re: #191 PT Barnum

They need to find someone who can get out there and tear the GOP a new one on a regular basis without really tarring the Administration at the same time.

Or, perhaps someone who can influence policy that appeals to the right.

197 JamesWI  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:46:29pm

Also from funnyordie, The new "Between Two Ferns with Zach Galifianakis that came finally came out a couple weeks ago. If you haven't seen them before, go back and watch through all of them. Fantastic.

198 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:46:58pm

re: #193 SinisterBen

Lord, in the space and time it took to post my stupid, I looked up the word. Who knew 'wonk' meant expert?! Not me. Because I don't read enough!

Were you thinking wanker? That would be Eric Cantor

199 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:48:09pm

re: #164 LudwigVanQuixote

Actually I meant not only those but her daughter's.

Really WWE has a not so GOP friendly history.

True, but the McMahon family has lots of money, and they've cleaned up the show. As with most things, objections to past bad actions can be erased with a large cash infusion.

200 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:48:16pm

re: #196 Racer X

Or, perhaps someone who can influence policy that appeals to the right.

The right would have to stop being batshit crazy for that to work though.

201 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:48:28pm

re: #198 PT Barnum

Ah, I was thinking about Boehners I think.

202 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:48:48pm

re: #199 Dark_Falcon

True, but the McMahon family has lots of money, and they've cleaned up the show. As with most things, objections to past bad actions can be erased with a large cash infusion.

How do you think Lindsey Lohan got out of jail so fast?

203 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:49:13pm

re: #202 PT Barnum

This is a FAMILY site sir!!

204 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:49:53pm

re: #203 SinisterBen

This is a FAMILY site sir!!

Maybe the Addams Family.

205 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:50:44pm

re: #202 PT Barnum

How do you think Lindsey Lohan got out of jail so fast?

I'm thinking of a funky 70s-style soundtrack...

/BOW CHICKA WOW-WOW ;-P

206 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:51:02pm

re: #200 PT Barnum

The right would have to stop being batshit crazy for that to work though.

"The Right" are not all batshit crazy. Besides, there is too much political anger and confrontation out there now. Getting someone in who will "tear the GOP a new one" will not help things. Calm is needed. Someone who can be a peacemaker. More anger and vitriol will make matters worse.

207 Ojoe  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:51:04pm

re: #8 Charles

Coming soon: the 'email new comments' feature will let you receive only replies to your comments, in addition to the current firehose approach.

Ooohhh, I've been wanting that one for a long time!

208 pch  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:51:26pm

re: #193 SinisterBen

FWIW, "wonk" is "know" spelled backwards. Whether that's just a bit of reverse etymology, I don't know.

209 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:52:02pm

re: #208 pch

FWIW, "wonk" is "know" spelled backwards. Whether that's just a bit of reverse etymology, I don't know.

Fine, rub it in.

210 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:52:40pm

re: #202 PT Barnum

How do you think Lindsey Lohan got out of jail so fast?

Good question. I'd say its because the LA Sheriff's department has a standing policy of handling celebrities with kid gloves. I doubt there was a direct payoff, but they might have a way things like this get handled on the back end (say with an legit service be paid for at far higher rate than normal).

212 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:52:53pm

re: #208 pch

FWIW, "wonk" is "know" spelled backwards. Whether that's just a bit of reverse etymology, I don't know.

Etymology
American English student slang 1954; perhaps navy slang before that. Expert sense popularized in the Clinton administration, 1993.

Origin uncertain, possibly from wonky (“shaky, unreliable”) or wank, wanker [1], or simply expressive.

[edit]Noun
wonk (plural wonks)

(derogatory) An overly studious person, particularly student; a nerd.
(by extension) A policy wonk or other intellectual expert.

213 jaunte  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:53:04pm

re: #209 SinisterBen

Doesn't work as well with 'boffin', though.

214 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:54:05pm

re: #206 Racer X

"The Right" are not all batshit crazy. Besides, there is too much political anger and confrontation out there now. Getting someone in who will "tear the GOP a new one" will not help things. Calm is needed. Someone who can be a peacemaker. More anger and vitriol will make matters worse.

True, but that's not going to happen. Too many people don't want peace. When a large enough minority wants conflict, then conflict will happen.

215 pch  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:54:13pm

And since I'm late to this thread, may I just interject:

BreitBAAAArt!

216 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:54:35pm

re: #143 freetoken

Meanwhile down in Georgia it looks like Newt's endorsement carried more weight than The Sarah's:

[Link: sos.georgia.gov...]

Deal was Newt's choice, Handel was The Sarah's.

Talk about the lesser of two evils.

217 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:55:12pm

Teabagger Buck holding a slim lead in Colorado right now. And plagiarist McInnis is down by 4...to a UN conspiracy theorist.

218 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:55:56pm

re: #214 Dark_Falcon

True, but that's not going to happen. Too many people don't want peace. When a large enough minority wants conflict, then conflict will happen.

Then things will get worse.

219 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:55:57pm

re: #216 Stanley Sea

Talk about the lesser of two evils.

Sarah's endorsements do better if she endorses them AFTER the polls have closed and then takes credit for their win.

220 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:58:09pm

re: #206 Racer X

"The Right" are not all batshit crazy. Besides, there is too much political anger and confrontation out there now. Getting someone in who will "tear the GOP a new one" will not help things. Calm is needed. Someone who can be a peacemaker. More anger and vitriol will make matters worse.

Except Obama has been trying reason and they aren't having any because it doesn't play well with the morons who now make up the base of the GOP for the most part.

I don't think vitriol is necessary, it's more useful to show their arguments to be the fluff that they are with wit and sarcasm. Ridicule is much more useful. But you got to be able to make that resonate with the very people who are swallowing the bull shit without even needing any ketchup.

221 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:58:11pm

re: #217 darthstar

Teabagger Buck holding a slim lead in Colorado right now. And plagiarist McInnis is down by 4...to a UN conspiracy theorist.

You know, as much as I would like to believe a teabagger would be exposed on the national stage, I believe they would receive as little attention as the next idiot. Things would be ignored, and the policies they wanted to forward would move on undiscussed. It would receive the same attention damn near basic Klan members get on the Park51 project... none.

No one would learn, no changes would occur. Whee! Our Media Reports, You uh Decide?

222 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:59:06pm

I am so mad right now. Just found out my co-workers have been secretly video taping me while I do my afternoon stress reduction exercises while at work. And posting them on Youtube. Bastards.

223 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:59:13pm

re: #187 Killgore Trout

It is a little frustrating at times but the Dems are moving their agenda along pretty well. There have been roadblocks but they're accomplishing pretty much everything they want to.

Scoreboard!

224 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:00:18pm

re: #220 PT Barnum

Okee Dokee.

I still predict a shakeup in the administration.

225 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:01:04pm

re: #223 Stanley Sea

Scoreboard!

- 16 trillion last I checked...

226 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:01:40pm

re: #218 Racer X

Then things will get worse.

Yes they will.

227 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:02:09pm

re: #226 Dark_Falcon

And unfortunate. Aren't we grateful for these times?

228 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:02:27pm
229 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:02:35pm

re: #226 Dark_Falcon

Yes they will.

agreed, and some people here will go into shock

230 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:03:18pm

re: #229 albusteve

agreed, and some people here will go into shock

no they will just deny it...

231 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:04:10pm

re: #230 brookly red

Or call it names. Like Socialism or Fascism, and they will think that fixes things.

232 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:04:41pm

re: #224 Racer X

Okee Dokee.

I still predict a shakeup in the administration.

That is likely. It's normal for that to happen after a president suffers a serious defeat. It's needed in many ways, because if others in the administration didn't take the blame it would fall on the President. And the name of the game is keeping the president effective: Others can be replaced, but once he's neutralized politically the administration is done.

233 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:04:57pm

re: #231 SinisterBen

Or call it names. Like Socialism or Fascism, and they will think that fixes things.

think of it as a 12 step program...

234 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:05:29pm

re: #233 brookly red

think of it as a 12 step program...

I would love to see those steps!

235 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:05:58pm

re: #217 darthstar

Teabagger Buck holding a slim lead in Colorado right now.

Buck's opponent is hardly an improvement.

Like is so many other states, the CO GOP has been taken over by the far right.

Note that the guy who won the GOP MN Governor nod is a tenther, sovereign citizen type of guy.

Pretty much anywhere outside of the North-east of the US (and maybe Delaware), the GOP "base" is turning into the crazy right.

236 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:06:28pm

re: #225 brookly red

- 16 trillion last I checked...

and away we go. Here's the link again!


Image: 12-16-09bud-rev6-28-10-f1.jpg

The Bush Tax Cuts should expire as written! LOL

237 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:06:54pm

re: #230 brookly red

no they will just deny it...

like BO
Recovery Summer!

238 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:07:20pm

re: #222 Racer X

You should be mad at whoever told you to wear that tie.

239 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:07:22pm

re: #232 Dark_Falcon

That is likely. It's normal for that to happen after a president suffers a serious defeat. It's needed in many ways, because if others in the administration didn't take the blame it would fall on the President. And the name of the game is keeping the president effective: Others can be replaced, but once he's neutralized politically the administration is done.

Agreed.

240 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:07:28pm

re: #222 Racer X

I am so mad right now. Just found out my co-workers have been secretly video taping me while I do my afternoon stress reduction exercises while at work. And posting them on Youtube. Bastards.


[Video]

You think that's bad? My co-workers secretly filmed me lip-syncing to a Survivor song of all things.

241 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:07:46pm

re: #222 Racer X

Well, that beats my coworkers catching me destressing on the printer/copier...

242 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:08:02pm

Here's an article on the guy who won the MN Gov. GOP nod tonight:

Minnesota GOP’s would-be Governor: Anti-gay, anti-Semitic group “good people”

243 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:08:45pm

re: #237 albusteve

like BO
Recovery Summer!

I am kind of over it... lets see where we are after the mid terms.

244 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:09:15pm

re: #242 freetoken

Here's an article on the guy who won the MN Gov. GOP nod tonight:

Minnesota GOP’s would-be Governor: Anti-gay, anti-Semitic group “good people”

Yep, and endorsed by Sarah the Grifter.

All you need to do is dig.

245 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:10:23pm

re: #217 darthstar

Teabagger Buck holding a slim lead in Colorado right now. And plagiarist McInnis is down by 4...to a UN conspiracy theorist.

Meanwhile LGF's Buck finally plunged into the Red karma wise last night after bringing up Cato's real name and trying to give him an insulting nickname that didn't make sense in the context he brought it up.

///Not that I'm celebrating or anything even though I do argue with the guy nearly every time he shows up...

246 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:10:23pm

re: #244 Stanley Sea

Yep, and endorsed by Sarah the Grifter.

All you need to do is dig.

But can we trust such a godless news source?

247 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:10:33pm

re: #236 Stanley Sea

Facts, even if they are stubborn things, mean almost nothing in todays media. The fear surrounding the first amendment equates to the ability to say anything about anyone. I am sure this is what the Founding Fathers were imagining when they said the press was free. Lies to the populace was the goal to be sure. Especially as told by those in power with money!

248 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:10:51pm

re: #244 Stanley Sea

All you need to do is dig.

Yeah, but where one has to dig - the remnants of an outhouse - is pretty smelly business.

249 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:10:52pm

re: #245 jamesfirecat

Meanwhile LGF's Buck finally plunged into the Red karma wise last night after bringing up Cato's real name and trying to give him an insulting nickname that didn't make sense in the context he brought it up.

///Not that I'm celebrating or anything even though I do argue with the guy nearly every time he shows up...

Umm... don't most of us?

250 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:11:28pm

re: #236 Stanley Sea

and away we go. Here's the link again!

Image: 12-16-09bud-rev6-28-10-f1.jpg

The Bush Tax Cuts should expire as written! LOL

That graph is neat and all, but there really is no way to say with certainty the Bush Tax cuts were that much of a negative impact on the deficit. Right after 9/11 the economy was on the verge of collapse. The tax cuts helped instill confidence in our economy.

They probably led to increased spending (and tax revenue) when some people were ready to horde their money and buy mass quantities of gold.

251 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:12:23pm

re: #245 jamesfirecat

Meanwhile LGF's Buck finally plunged into the Red karma wise last night after bringing up Cato's real name and trying to give him an insulting nickname that didn't make sense in the context he brought it up.

///Not that I'm celebrating or anything even though I do argue with the guy nearly every time he shows up...

Red Karma... that's by Tom Clancy right?

252 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:13:29pm

re: #250 Racer X

That graph is neat and all, but there really is no way to say with certainty the Bush Tax cuts were that much of a negative impact on the deficit. Right after 9/11 the economy was on the verge of collapse. The tax cuts helped instill confidence in our economy.

They probably led to increased spending (and tax revenue) when some people were ready to horde their money and buy mass quantities of gold.

George H. W. Bush nailed it over three decades ago.

Tax cuts + Increased Military Spending + "Balanced Budget"= Voodoo Economics.

253 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:14:05pm

re: #248 freetoken

Yeah, but where one has to dig - the remnants of an outhouse - is pretty smelly business.

Every day I wonder. It used to be the kiss of death to be associated with a White Supremacist group. Now, ah, just ignore it.

254 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:15:06pm

re: #249 JasonA

Umm... don't most of us?

I've tried to upding him and help him out, but his posting Cato's name without permission forced me to downding him.

255 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:15:13pm

re: #251 brookly red

Red Karma... that's by Tom Clancy right?

I honestly would not be surprised.

I think its the Sequel to Orange Outrage.

256 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:15:18pm

re: #206 Racer X

"The Right" are not all batshit crazy. Besides, there is too much political anger and confrontation out there now. Getting someone in who will "tear the GOP a new one" will not help things. Calm is needed. Someone who can be a peacemaker. More anger and vitriol will make matters worse.

They may not be all batshit crazy, but the standard bearers, the guys who are using their time in the limelight to slowly twist the GOP into an institute of bigotry, racism, and sexism, are. And continuing to feed the crocodile, hoping it'll eat you last, will only give them the "breathing room" they need to make the changes permanent. This Administration needs to do more than simply shake their heads, they need to confront such darkness and hatred, shine a spotlight on it, and call it for what it is.

257 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:16:00pm

re: #254 Dark_Falcon

I've tried to upding him and help him out, but his posting Cato's name without permission forced me to downding him.


Well that showed him.

258 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:16:54pm

re: #254 Dark_Falcon

I've tried to upding him and help him out, but his posting Cato's name without permission forced me to downding him.

Buck is a racist.

259 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:17:10pm

re: #252 jamesfirecat

George H. W. Bush nailed it over three decades ago.

Tax cuts + Increased Military Spending + "Balanced Budget"= Voodoo Economics.

Only time will tell if Obamanomics are successful. The Magic 8 Ball says "no".

260 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:17:28pm

re: #259 Racer X

Only time will tell if Obamanomics are successful. The Magic 8 Ball says "no".

For reference how do you define "Obamanomics"?

261 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:17:31pm

re: #254 Dark_Falcon

I've tried to upding him and help him out, but his posting Cato's name without permission forced me to downding him.

downdings don't mean shit...you have to get into their face for an infraction like that

262 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:17:32pm

re: #253 Stanley Sea

Screw it. How far are they from TV stardom? If we can dog whistle until the cows come home, why not just put a grand wizard on the air? I don't see the missing steps anymore. I don't see why this isn't a late night program on FoxNews. What keeps them from running some "anti-faggot" group as general programming after 9pm...

What is missing here? It certainly isn't intent!

263 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:17:40pm

re: #255 jamesfirecat

I honestly would not be surprised.

I think its the Sequel to Orange Outrage.

No it was right after White Storm Rising... I think.

264 DaddyLawBucks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:19:39pm

re: #210 Dark_Falcon

Everyone who is in jail on that type of charge gets let out early, given they behave. Otherwise, it would be just too expensive to keep them around. It's a budget issue.

265 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:19:47pm

Flight attendant who pulled chute to flee passenger is out on $2500 bail, says he 'greatly appreciated' support

[Link: bit.ly...]

I LOVED this story.

266 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:20:29pm

If I'm extra cranky it's because I'm starting to feel that throat action you get after quitting smoking. If you've never done it I really can't explain how wonderful it is. Fantastic. Joyous.

(insert sarc tag here)

267 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:21:07pm

re: #260 jamesfirecat

For reference how do you define "Obamanomics"?

Doubling down on the deficit through increased spending and more government bailouts for private industry.

Doubling the National Debt over the next 10 years.

268 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:21:26pm

Wow.
Best. Ride. Evar.


for her, anyway
269 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:21:32pm

re: #260 jamesfirecat

For reference how do you define "Obamanomics"?

spending money you don't have, driving the deficit into orbit, bailing out union voters and calling it all necessary to save us from the brink of economic catastrophy...in short, help wreck the economy for votes

270 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:21:39pm

re: #260 jamesfirecat

For reference how do you define "Obamanomics"?

like this ?

[Link: www.washingtonexaminer.com...]

271 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:23:03pm

re: #267 Racer X

Doubling down on the deficit through increased spending and more government bailouts for private industry.

Doubling the National Debt over the next 10 years.

Worse than we are now. A depression. Read the non-political economists.

272 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:23:14pm

Hey I know, I will be found to be corrupt, but I refuse to step down!
[Link: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...]
Grand. Force him out while yelling, "I Love Lamp!" I can't imagine this ass-hat needs any more positive attention.

273 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:23:32pm

re: #270 brookly red

like this ?

[Link: www.washingtonexaminer.com...]

First comment at that link:

Obama and the "progressives" are employing the Cloward and Piven Strategy to intentionally collapse the economy. Then, watch for Obama to declare a state of emergency to exercise broad emergency powers.


Hehe... like flies to dung...

274 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:24:23pm

re: #268 Slumbering Behemoth

LOL!

"Sorry dude, this ride puts you to shame."

275 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:24:35pm

re: #268 Slumbering Behemoth

Wow.
Best. Ride. Evar.


[Video]
for her, anyway

And the male becomes more obsolete with each passing day.

276 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:24:36pm

re: #273 freetoken

Hehe... like flies to dung...

no worse than the crazy shit spewed right here

277 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:25:01pm

re: #270 brookly red

like this ?

[Link: www.washingtonexaminer.com...]

Gah! Read the comments to discern the mindset of those agreeing to the article.

278 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:25:22pm

re: #270 brookly red

like this ?

[Link: www.washingtonexaminer.com...]

Quick. Blame Bush!

279 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:25:22pm

re: #273 freetoken

Hehe... like flies to dung...

OK, blame the commentator dismiss the story... as you like it.

280 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:25:37pm

re: #277 Stanley Sea

Gah! Read the comments to discern the mindset of those agreeing to the article.

why?

281 DaddyLawBucks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:26:07pm

re: #277 Stanley Sea

wait, when we are shipped off to the FEMA camps, do you think we can at least get our hands on some goats?

282 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:26:19pm

re: #270 brookly red

like this ?

[Link: www.washingtonexaminer.com...]

Yes, this incisive article cites how all of this terrible murder of the economy is occurring! I mean cite after cite they tear Obama apart! You totally owned the libs! ;)

283 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:26:40pm

re: #280 albusteve

why?

Uh, they are brainwashed in hatred? Seriously, read the comments.

284 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:26:51pm

re: #277 Stanley Sea

Gah! Read the comments to discern the mindset of those agreeing to the article.

If I read the Youtube comments on every video I would most likely shoot myself. Comments mean nothing.

285 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:26:58pm

re: #267 Racer X

Doubling down on the deficit through increased spending and more government bailouts for private industry.

Doubling the National Debt over the next 10 years.

I think that doubling down on the deficit is a fine idea during a recession.

At the very least I support government spending during a recession since I honestly believe it's foolish to believe the free market will fix what it f***ed up on its own any time soon.

As for government bailout of private industry, I'd say if its a good idea or not depends on the industry.

Bailout the banks that f***ed us up... not such a good idea.

286 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:27:23pm

re: #261 albusteve

downdings don't mean shit...you have to get into their face for an infraction like that

And that I am unwilling to do.

287 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:27:55pm

re: #283 Stanley Sea

Uh, they are brainwashed in hatred? Seriously, read the comments.

I feel like I should repost my joke about this being a family site, but some people would remain unmoved.

I could pound on my keyboard and make more sense than some of those posts.

288 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:28:16pm

re: #283 Stanley Sea

Uh, they are brainwashed in hatred? Seriously, read the comments.

uh or forget the comments & read the story... nawww can't do that.

289 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:29:00pm

re: #268 Slumbering Behemoth

Wow.
Best. Ride. Evar.


[Video]
for her, anyway

Those mail order brides are pretty awesome.

290 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:29:02pm

re: #274 Racer X

re: #275 JasonA

I can confidently say that I have never been out done by an amusement park ride. As an adult, that is. As a teen, I likely could have been out done by a bumpy road.

291 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:29:21pm

re: #275 JasonA

And the male becomes more obsolete with each passing day.

The females have already figured out how to make "fake" sperm out of a bone marrow sample....

///The Lesbian gendercide is coming!

292 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:29:44pm

re: #285 jamesfirecat

I think that doubling down on the deficit is a fine idea during a recession.

At the very least I support government spending during a recession since I honestly believe it's foolish to believe the free market will fix what it f***ed up on its own any time soon.

As for government bailout of private industry, I'd say if its a good idea or not depends on the industry.

Bailout the banks that f***ed us up... not such a good idea.

I agree with you on some points. If the banks effed us up then go ahead and let them fail. Why do we continue to give them Billions? Why did the Obama administration give BP over $300 Million? They did not need it.

And I think misguided legislation contributed to this mess, not just private greed.

293 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:30:17pm

Whasssup?

294 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:30:19pm

re: #283 Stanley Sea

Uh, they are brainwashed in hatred? Seriously, read the comments.

people here are more interested in comments than in issues too much of the time...we are all brainwashed, whether that's a good thing or not depends on which side of an issue you are on...I have no use for comments

295 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:30:58pm

re: #293 fat bastard vegetarian

Whasssup?

the price of pie...

296 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:31:07pm

re: #286 Dark_Falcon

And that I am unwilling to do.

and I did...despicable imo

297 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:31:11pm

re: #292 Racer X

I agree with you on some points. If the banks effed us up then go ahead and let them fail. Why do we continue to give them Billions? Why did the Obama administration give BP over $300 Million? They did not need it.

And I think misguided legislation contributed to this mess, not just private greed.

Well private greed made the mess, then misguided legislation made it worse in some ways and better in others, since I understand we did recently get some bills passed to help keep federal eyes pealed on Wall Street to prevent this from happening again...

298 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:31:28pm

re: #288 brookly red

uh or forget the comments & read the story... nawww can't do that.

OK, Obamanonics. It's a BS opinion piece. I read it. It is what it is Brook.

299 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:31:31pm

re: #290 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #275 JasonA

I can confidently say that I have never been out done by an amusement park ride. As an adult, that is. As a teen, I likely could have been out done by a bumpy road.

...

I just figured out the conspiracy behind all the unpaved streets around here!

300 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:32:07pm

re: #290 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #275 JasonA

I can confidently say that I have never been out done by an amusement park ride. As an adult, that is. As a teen, I likely could have been out done by a bumpy road.

TMI!

301 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:32:29pm

re: #294 albusteve

I have no idea what is going on in the comments section anywhere, but I hope and pray that most of them are posted in jest. I don't know how many local news sites you have read, but it turns out people seem to want negative attention. I expect a study any day now. As long as someone responds, er, never mind, you already know.

302 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:33:12pm

re: #300 Racer X

Okay, I really hate that it looks like I said that.

303 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:33:39pm

re: #300 Racer X

TMI!

Not for the right lady it ain't.

304 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:34:01pm

re: #298 Stanley Sea

OK, Obamanonics. It's a BS opinion piece. I read it. It is what it is Brook.

Obamanomics is the same as "Clintonomics". Just a nickname for a president's economic policies. Whatever they are.

305 Digital Display  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:34:16pm

re: #293 fat bastard vegetarian

Whasssup?

Hi you! As you well know hotel living gets old..Almost 3 weeks now

306 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:34:23pm

re: #296 albusteve

and I did...despicable imo

Quite Concur.

307 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:34:47pm

re: #296 albusteve

and I did...despicable imo

re: #286 Dark_Falcon

But that is a huge infraction right? If I were trying to hide my real name, and it got posted against my desire, I'd be pretty up front about my objections. I happen to be a guy that uses the nic for fun rather than necessity.

308 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:35:05pm

A big box and Maru. Super slow

309 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:35:10pm

re: #304 Racer X

Obamanomics is the same as "Clintonomics". Just a nickname for a president's economic policies. Whatever they are.

Okay now that CAN'T BE RIGHT!

If you mean that "Obamanomics" is just a nickname than that would make sense, but Clinton lead us into a decade of prosperity and a budget surplus so if Obamanomics and Clintonnomics are the same thing....

310 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:35:50pm

Clinton's economic policies turned out to be sound. I am not so confident about Obama. Time will tell.

311 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:36:06pm

I've come to the conclusion that Hollywood will make a movie out of anything these days. Observe:

312 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:36:52pm

re: #309 jamesfirecat

Okay now that CAN'T BE RIGHT!

If you mean that "Obamanomics" is just a nickname than that would make sense, but Clinton lead us into a decade of prosperity and a budget surplus so if Obamanomics and Clintonnomics are the same thing...

Things like that have just become a clue for me to scroll over. Any criticism of "Obamacare" is a waste of time to bother clicking.

313 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:37:44pm

re: #309 jamesfirecat

Okay now that CAN'T BE RIGHT!

If you mean that "Obamanomics" is just a nickname than that would make sense, but Clinton lead us into a decade of prosperity and a budget surplus so if Obamanomics and Clintonnomics are the same thing...

Clinton inherited a decade of prosperity...an economy chugging along just fine when he took office...read a book

314 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:38:04pm

re: #311 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I could live without any more comic book movies.

315 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:39:08pm

re: #312 Killgore Trout

Things like that have just become a clue for me to scroll over. Any criticism of "Obamacare" is a waste of time to bother clicking.

just wait til the cost smacks you in the face....you will not be able to scroll over that amigo

316 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:39:25pm

re: #311 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I've come to the conclusion that Hollywood will make a movie out of anything these days. Observe:


[Video]

Huh. None of the ads on TV gave me the impression that it was like that. I just thought it was some dorky teen romantic comedy.

317 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:40:14pm

re: #313 albusteve

My point is that Obamanomics and Clintonomics are two different economic policies, aren't they?

318 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:40:21pm

re: #313 albusteve

Clinton inherited a decade of prosperity...an economy chugging along just fine when he took office...read a book

Could've sworn there was a recession in there somewhere...

319 DaddyLawBucks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:40:24pm

re: #313 albusteve

yes, and he left office with a balanced budget, no deficit, right? And when Bush got done cutting the taxes for the "rich" (people who made more than me, anyway) and not doing anything to finance two wars, where did he leave us? SCREWED is where.

So more defect spending to stimulate the economy, as opposed to financing tax cuts, is the recommenced method of igniting prosperity again.

320 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:40:56pm

re: #307 Rightwingconspirator

Would it be odd to just post who you are and still be active here? Screw it. I'm Down.

321 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:41:29pm

re: #313 albusteve

Clinton inherited a decade of prosperity...an economy chugging along just fine when he took office...read a book

Nuh-ah! You take that back!

Reality is a president will leave behind a legacy. Their policies may take decades to really feel the impact. Ergo - It was really Clinton's economic policies that led to the financial meltdown. Bush Jr. failed to react in time to prevent it, and Obama looks to be doubling down and making it far worse.

We really won't feel the pain / benefit of Obamanomics for decades.

322 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:41:45pm

re: #317 jamesfirecat

My point is that Obamanomics and Clintonomics are two different economic policies, aren't they?

yes, worlds apart...I have no beef with Bill's influence on the economy...he was pretty much hands off

323 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:43:17pm

re: #322 albusteve

yes, worlds apart...I have no beef with Bill's influence on the economy...he was pretty much hands off

Except for when he wasn't. You know. Like when changes took place.

324 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:43:50pm

re: #322 albusteve

yes, worlds apart...I have no beef with Bill's influence on the economy...he was pretty much hands off

///Must not make obvious sexual joke....

325 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:44:16pm

re: #315 albusteve

just wait til the cost smacks you in the face...you will not be able to scroll over that amigo

Yeah, I'll be sorry when I face the Death Panel and forced to have an abortion/gay marriage by the crown jewel of socialism which closed all of the Republican/white owned car dealerships.

326 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:44:40pm

re: #324 jamesfirecat

///Must not make obvious sexual joke...

But the potential is over 1.21 JiggaWhutts?

327 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:44:44pm

re: #320 SinisterBen

Some do, Thanos recently. If you click through to my site or look at the copyright on my photography in my Pages, you see my real name. Charles, and Walter are under their own names, as far as I know. But do be warned there are real LGF stalkers out there who have tried to harass and intimidate. It's a very personal choice.

328 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:44:51pm

Evening Honcos.

329 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:45:57pm

re: #327 Rightwingconspirator

Some do, Thanos recently. If you click through to my site or look at the copyright on my photography in my Pages, you see my real name. Charles, and Walter are under their own names, as far as I know. But do be warned there are real LGF stalkers out there who have tried to harass and intimidate. It's a very personal choice.

IIRC, Hoops can vouch for that.

330 Digital Display  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:46:08pm

re: #322 albusteve

yes, worlds apart...I have no beef with Bill's influence on the economy...he was pretty much hands off

What? Bush had a 90% approval rating till the economy tanked..
It's the economy stupid got Clinton elected.. The first thing he did after holding office was to convene an Economic summit with all the leaders in Business flying to Washington..( Note to Obama..You should have done that also)

331 DaddyLawBucks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:46:22pm

re: #327 Rightwingconspirator

forgive me, i thought there was a rule about not using our own names? The nick-names are fun, but are they mandatory?

332 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:46:38pm

re: #319 daddylawbucks

yes, and he left office with a balanced budget, no deficit, right? And when Bush got done cutting the taxes for the "rich" (people who made more than me, anyway) and not doing anything to finance two wars, where did he leave us? SCREWED is where.

So more defect spending to stimulate the economy, as opposed to financing tax cuts, is the recommenced method of igniting prosperity again.

I have had my criticism of Bush, luckily he presided over years of steady growth that was squandered in his second term, even tho I supported the Iraq war...he definitely kicked it down the road, but that is no excuse for the wild spending spree we have seen, yet even today, with the teacher bailout....foolish, and does nothing to solve the problem...it makes the problem even worse...you don't give a junkie trying to recover a hit of dope, but BO needs those votes

333 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:47:00pm

re: #325 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I'll be sorry when I face the Death Panel and forced to have an abortion/gay marriage by the crown jewel of socialism which closed all of the Republican/white owned car dealerships.

If you're lucky, you'll be living under Sharia Law by then.

334 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:47:12pm

re: #331 daddylawbucks

forgive me, i thought there was a rule about not using our own names? The nick-names are fun, but are they mandatory?

My name is Mr. Bigglesworth.
/

335 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:47:44pm

re: #327 Rightwingconspirator

Some do, Thanos recently. If you click through to my site or look at the copyright on my photography in my Pages, you see my real name. Charles, and Walter are under their own names, as far as I know. But do be warned there are real LGF stalkers out there who have tried to harass and intimidate. It's a very personal choice.

You know, I am fine with that. I don't mind stating my mind under scrutiny. They have to break my "friend" barrier first. As strongly as I feel about things, I also don't have anything to hide. The worst they can do is post "tea bagger" posts on my walls... Somehow, I doubt my place of employment will care.

336 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:47:48pm

re: #331 daddylawbucks

forgive me, i thought there was a rule about not using our own names? The nick-names are fun, but are they mandatory?

No Mr. Lawbucks you are just fine... don't worry about a thing :)

337 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:47:53pm

re: #331 daddylawbucks

No. It's a personal choice. One choice that is best taken with due care. Look, long timers here can explain this way better than I can. I've only been hanging here a couple years.

338 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:48:10pm

re: #321 Racer X

Nuh-ah! You take that back!

Reality is a president will leave behind a legacy. Their policies may take decades to really feel the impact. Ergo - It was really Clinton's economic policies that led to the financial meltdown. Bush Jr. failed to react in time to prevent it, and Obama looks to be doubling down and making it far worse.

We really won't feel the pain / benefit of Obamanomics for decades.

I blame congress...Frank, Dodd, Schumer and BO himself...FM/FM was a disaster, all on the donks

339 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:48:39pm

re: #325 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I'll be sorry when I face the Death Panel and forced to have an abortion/gay marriage by the crown jewel of socialism which closed all of the Republican/white owned car dealerships.

Speaking of which, the guy who won the MN GOP nod for governor plays on this tune, and his abortion page makes sure we know that he'll keep granny from going to the gas chambers.

340 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:48:44pm

re: #324 jamesfirecat

///Must not make obvious sexual joke...

heh...there's one in there

341 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:49:30pm

re: #325 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I'll be sorry when I face the Death Panel and forced to have an abortion/gay marriage by the crown jewel of socialism which closed all of the Republican/white owned car dealerships.

whoa!...one step at a time comrade

342 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:50:19pm

re: #340 albusteve

heh...there's one in there

When the right is involved, we can always fall back on a "wide stance" as cheap ammo. I want something new though, like wedge issues...

343 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:50:25pm

re: #338 albusteve

I blame congress...Frank, Dodd, Schumer and BO himself...FM/FM was a disaster, all on the donks

Yeah. Shame the Republicans didn't have control of all three branches of government during that time...

344 DaddyLawBucks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:51:23pm

re: #332 albusteve

My point is that government spending which increases employment (preferably on infrastructure type work) means that more people are working, persumably spending their paychecks [since they have been un or under employed] and that increase in consumer spending gets the economic engine running again. Most of the mainline economists, like Paul Samuelson, seem to go with that program. For certain, the Regan "down from the top" theory that justified the Bush tax cuts turned out not to work.

345 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:51:25pm

re: #343 JasonA

Yeah. Shame the Republicans didn't have control of all three branches of government during that time...

And this proves that all politicians suck.

346 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:51:27pm

re: #330 HoosierHoops

What? Bush had a 90% approval rating till the economy tanked..
It's the economy stupid got Clinton elected.. The first thing he did after holding office was to convene an Economic summit with all the leaders in Business flying to Washington..( Note to Obama..You should have done that also)

the boom was unstoppable...it would have happened regardless of who was in office...everybody wants a Blackberry, or an iPod

347 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:51:51pm

re: #335 SinisterBen

You know, I am fine with that. I don't mind stating my mind under scrutiny. They have to break my "friend" barrier first. As strongly as I feel about things, I also don't have anything to hide. The worst they can do is post "tea bagger" posts on my walls... Somehow, I doubt my place of employment will care.

My boss is fine with my online personae. I have no fears in that regard. Others here have experience with stalkers. I have been fortunate as to have no problems so far. I pay no attention to the musings of the banned. I pick few fights. It's all good.

348 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:52:03pm

re: #325 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I'll be sorry when I face the Death Panel and forced to have an abortion/gay marriage by the crown jewel of socialism which closed all of the Republican/white owned car dealerships.

Fucking A. Either this or a Muslim practicing his religion.

We are doomed by our fears (often created by others)

349 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:52:42pm

re: #343 JasonA

Yeah. Shame the Republicans didn't have control of all three branches of government during that time...

republicans warned about the bubble for years...you simply cannot change history

350 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:53:07pm

re: #334 Cannadian Club Akbar

My name is Mr. Bigglesworth.
/

When Mr. Bigglesworth gets angry, PEOPLE DIE!!!

351 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:53:21pm

re: #347 Rightwingconspirator

You rock. I wish to add you as a facebook friend, but I lack the links. ;) Then you can see my TEA Party friends. They announce themselves.

352 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:53:45pm

re: #349 albusteve

republicans warned about the bubble for years...you simply cannot change history

McCain wanted better oversight for FM/FM but never got it.

353 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:54:12pm

re: #344 daddylawbucks

My point is that government spending which increases employment (preferably on infrastructure type work) means that more people are working, persumably spending their paychecks [since they have been un or under employed] and that increase in consumer spending gets the economic engine running again. Most of the mainline economists, like Paul Samuelson, seem to go with that program. For certain, the Regan "down from the top" theory that justified the Bush tax cuts turned out not to work.

fine...so why is unemployment stagnant at over 9%?...the Stimulus has not worked

354 blueraven  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:54:42pm

re: #349 albusteve

republicans warned about the bubble for years...you simply cannot change history

They had control of both houses and the presidency...why didnt they do something?

355 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:54:52pm

re: #334 Cannadian Club Akbar

My name is Mr. Bigglesworth.
/

And I'm Spartacus.

/

356 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:54:53pm

re: #352 Cannadian Club Akbar

McCain wanted better oversight for FM/FM but never got it.

so did Bush...they all told them to fuck off, and collected their cut

357 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:55:08pm

re: #352 Cannadian Club Akbar

McCain wanted better oversight for FM/FM but never got it.

Blocked by Barney Frank (and Maxine Waters too, IIRC), among others.

358 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:55:09pm

re: #348 Stanley Sea

Fucking A. Either this or a Muslim practicing his religion.

We are doomed by our fears (often created by others)

fortune favors the brave...

359 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:55:38pm

re: #330 HoosierHoops

What? Bush had a 90% approval rating till the economy tanked..
It's the economy stupid got Clinton elected.. The first thing he did after holding office was to convene an Economic summit with all the leaders in Business flying to Washington..( Note to Obama..You should have done that also)

The growth is almost always a surprise, driven by industry or circumstance. The Feds can slow or screw up the economy far easier than accelerate it. They can get in the way or stay out of the way. They can build the interstates or the internet. But what happens after that is up to industry and us individuals.

360 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:55:41pm

re: #353 albusteve

fine...so why is unemployment stagnant at over 9%?...the Stimulus has not worked

Are you open to considering that economy would be in much worse shape than had it not been done at all?

361 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:55:48pm

re: #30 SinisterBen

Welfare Queens, And Socialism. That's How! And Plasma TVs! Something about Cadillacs. Don't you get it?!

I swear, there were people here before the election telling me very seriously that it would be cheaper not to work under the Obama administration. It would save on taxes, I admit, but I still haven't been able to figure out how to give up my job completely. The numbers won't crunch.

362 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:56:02pm

re: #357 talon_262

Blocked by Barney Frank (and Maxine Waters too, IIRC), among others.

a minor detail...

363 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:56:11pm

re: #355 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

And I'm Spartacus.

/

Do you like Gladiator movies?
/not this again!!

364 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:56:34pm

re: #354 blueraven

They had control of both houses and the presidency...why didnt they do something?

don't know, but what went down was criminal imo...Chris Dodd should be in jail, and Fwank too

365 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:56:42pm

re: #360 JasonA

Are you open to considering that economy would be in much worse shape than had it not been done at all?

no

366 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:57:17pm

re: #46 nines09

Now a little shout out to home schooling. Wonder who hires this masterpiece.The crazy keeps coming

Andy? Andy has a job. His mother made it for him.

367 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:57:48pm

re: #360 JasonA

Are you open to considering that economy would be in much worse shape than had it not been done at all?

I'm open to it, but I do find it a bit hard to prove.

368 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:57:52pm

re: #50 nines09

He gets paid for this? What am I doing wrong?

You weren't Phyllis Schlafly's only child. Better luck next time.

369 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:57:54pm

re: #354 blueraven

They had control of both houses and the presidency...why didnt they do something?

In response to Steve, via your comment:

blame blame and complain. repeat (till the GOP Saviour appears - whoever or whatever incarnation that is)

370 Digital Display  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:58:14pm

re: #346 albusteve

the boom was unstoppable...it would have happened regardless of who was in office...everybody wants a Blackberry, or an iPod

BB's or iPods didn't exist back then...When Clinton was elected the economy sucked big time.. Clinton flew all the best and brightest business leaders to Washington for a summit to brain storm solutions..There was no boom..People were hurting...His actions gave Confidence to the business world..IMO

371 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:58:25pm

re: #51 SinisterBen

Object Oriented Programming is a Liberal agenda? Good to know.

Practically everything is a liberal agenda, if you read Conservapedia long enough. I don't know if they've attacked germ theory yet, but I'm waiting.

372 blueraven  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:58:27pm

re: #364 albusteve

don't know, but what went down was criminal imo...Chris Dodd should be in jail, and Fwank too

You keep saying that, but again, they were not in charge. You are just another partisan that attacks without facts.

373 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:58:31pm

re: #332 albusteve

I have had my criticism of Bush, luckily he presided over years of steady growth that was squandered in his second term, even tho I supported the Iraq war...he definitely kicked it down the road, but that is no excuse for the wild spending spree we have seen, yet even today, with the teacher bailout...foolish, and does nothing to solve the problem...it makes the problem even worse...you don't give a junkie trying to recover a hit of dope, but BO needs those votes

Yes how Dare Obama try to support our flounder education system!

374 avanti  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:58:49pm

re: #353 albusteve

fine...so why is unemployment stagnant at over 9%?...the Stimulus has not worked

Jobs never recover that fast, losses slow down, than slowly recover. It's typically well over a year to even begin. No question jobs are headed in the right direction, it'll just take longer than we like.

375 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:59:33pm

re: #366 SanFranciscoZionist

Hay thar... what's yer avatar about?

376 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:59:42pm

re: #370 HoosierHoops

BB's or iPods didn't exist back then...When Clinton was elected the economy sucked big time.. Clinton flew all the best and brightest business leaders to Washington for a summit to brain storm solutions..There was no boom..People were hurting...His actions gave Confidence to the business world..IMO

True. But everyone switched to CD's (from cassette) and cell phones hit the market.

377 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:00:16pm

re: #55 Shiplord Kirel

I learned today that junior instructors at Texas Tech have coined a new expression, "black helicopter parents." This refers to rightwing parents who complain that their little darlings flunked a course not because they missed class or failed to study, but because the instructor is conducting a political vendetta against "conserf-tive" families. Apparently this has become very common in recent years, with the substance of the complaints being traceable to the ravings of Rush Limbaugh, etc.

Well, I have to say that I've encountered every other kid of nut parent, but I think I'm fairly safe from this kind at a small Catholic elementary school in Northern California.

That must be a genuine treat, and I'm sure it sets the kids up to be real self-reliant adults who accept that sometimes actions have consquences.

/

378 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:00:31pm

re: #360 JasonA

Are you open to considering that economy would be in much worse shape than had it not been done at all?

it depends....as much could have been accomplished with half the amount...and all of it is yet to be spent...but as an historical crisis saver, it's not worked...preventing job losses is not stimulation...look at todays bill, it does not address the problems with state budgets, so why does the admin spend this money as a stop gap?...connect the dots

379 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:00:48pm

re: #361 SanFranciscoZionist

I swear, there were people here before the election telling me very seriously that it would be cheaper not to work under the Obama administration. It would save on taxes, I admit, but I still haven't been able to figure out how to give up my job completely. The numbers won't crunch.

I believe I learned many things before Obama. Then I was to forget them all after he was elected. The basic message I know now, is that no matter how many people want jobs, there are millions of spaces to fill them. I should just ignore the numbers and remember that people making anything over $20k a year are now really excited to make this small amount! And damn it EVERYONE on unemployment makes $20k a year regardless of previous wages. And they want to live this way forever.

SHAME ON THEM!

380 Digital Display  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:01:12pm

re: #376 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hey you...I think it was about 102 today..How is it down there?

381 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:01:20pm

re: #369 Stanley Sea

In response to Steve, via your comment:

blame blame and complain. repeat (till the GOP Saviour appears - whoever or whatever incarnation that is)

thanks for the thoughtful input

382 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:01:22pm

re: #364 albusteve

don't know, but what went down was criminal imo...Chris Dodd should be in jail, and Fwank too

now if we really, really started putting politicians in jail for things like that then who would run the firckin country?

383 DaddyLawBucks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:01:25pm

re: #353 albusteve

This stuff is not a magic pill, it takes some time, and the stimulus has been quite small in comparison to the amount of money lost in just the housing crash. Personally, I'd like to see a jobs program from the feds to put hundreds of thousands of people to work for a three year stint. Note also that while I believe that the Bush policy's were to blame for the crash, no one in their right mind would imply the downturn was deliberate, "to blame" means more that the outcome was not forseen.

384 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:01:35pm

re: #376 Cannadian Club Akbar

Daughter went to Goodwill today... (got a record player from grandpa) bought 20 albums, $20.00.

ELO, Frampton Comes Alive, bunch of stuff like that.

She's delirious with excitement.

385 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:02:17pm

re: #367 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'm open to it, but I do find it a bit hard to prove.

Yeah Obama needs to take notes on Bush on how to prove a negative

(Prevented a second attack "thanks to me there has been no second attack on the American people" and all that...)

386 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:02:22pm

re: #65 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Damn, wish my folks had been into this kinda thinking. Then I wouldn't have gotten my ear talked off constantly about how I needed to get my ass in gear and do more than occupy a chair in the classroom.

Yeah, I mean...ya know?

387 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:02:27pm

re: #380 HoosierHoops

Hey you...I think it was about 102 today..How is it down there?

Rainy. And it is gonna form into a Tropical Depression before it his Reine.

388 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:02:46pm

re: #353 albusteve

fine...so why is unemployment stagnant at over 9%?...the Stimulus has not worked

Part of it is that the recession gave many companies an excuse to make cuts they were either considering or were holding off on. Increased automation and the slow march of technological progress has made entire sections of businesses obsolete. What you get is a glut of middle-skilled, middle-wage jobs that are too qualified for unskilled labor, but not skilled enough to take up jobs needing various certifications or degrees.

There's thousands of job openings out there, but either too few of those with the necessary skills or too many who are actually overskilled.

389 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:02:51pm

re: #375 fat bastard vegetarian

Hay thar... what's yer avatar about?

Very perceptive. thanks for asking.

SFZ?

390 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:03:08pm

re: #382 brookly red

now if we really, really started putting politicians in jail for things like that then who would run the firckin country?

I will. Grab me a beer.
/

391 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:03:09pm

and that I hate commas, because they are socialist.

392 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:03:43pm

re: #370 HoosierHoops

BB's or iPods didn't exist back then...When Clinton was elected the economy sucked big time.. Clinton flew all the best and brightest business leaders to Washington for a summit to brain storm solutions..There was no boom..People were hurting...His actions gave Confidence to the business world..IMO

well, you might be wrong...the technology was there and just took off like wildfire, pumping up the economy at an astonishing pace...govt had little to do with it, certainly less than Gates and Jobs

393 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:03:48pm

re: #72 Shiplord Kirel

Back in its heyday, the Soviet Union had such concepts as "politically correct vegetables." Cabbage for example was a righteous veggie for Reds because it yielded a high nutritional value relative to the resources put into producing it. Lettuce, on the other hand, was a bourgeois affectation and therefore subversive.

Wingnuts remind me of this when they start finding not just political significance, but conscious political intent, in nearly everything.

There's a scary scene in "Red Scarf Girl" where the narrator and her little friends, at the opening of the Cultural Revolution, are choosing new names for stores as they walk down the street, because the current ones are insufficiently revolutionary. Later, they're pleased when the authorities actually pick some of their names.

394 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:04:04pm

re: #391 SinisterBen

By the way... "Hi!".

395 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:04:11pm

re: #381 albusteve

thanks for the thoughtful input

no prob!!

396 Reginald Perrin  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:04:15pm

One of our regulars made avile inappropriate insult towards SanFranciscoZionist, downstairs on the Anti-Muslim bigotry thread.

Is it possible to have that comment removed?

397 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:04:25pm

re: #390 Cannadian Club Akbar

I will. Grab me a beer.
/

do I look like a fuckin lobbyist to you?

398 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:05:12pm

re: #397 brookly red

do I look like a fuckin lobbyist to you?

You're closer to the fridge.
/

399 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:06:00pm

re: #385 jamesfirecat

Yeah Obama needs to take notes on Bush on how to prove a negative

(Prevented a second attack "thanks to me there has been no second attack on the American people" and all that...)


Gah, how quickly we forget. Thankd jfCAT

400 Digital Display  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:06:15pm

re: #392 albusteve

well, you might be wrong...the technology was there and just took off like wildfire, pumping up the economy at an astonishing pace...govt had little to do with it, certainly less than Gates and Jobs

I have made a shitload of money from Bill Gates crappy software...He is my hero!
ALL HAIL BILL GATES!

401 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:06:59pm

re: #400 HoosierHoops

I have made a shitload of money from Bill Gates crappy software...He is my hero!
ALL HAIL BILL GATES!

So, pizza is on you?

402 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:07:19pm

re: #372 blueraven

You keep saying that, but again, they were not in charge. You are just another partisan that attacks without facts.

look at the facts...the dem congress was implementing Clintons housing dream...it went out of control, and to this day FM/FM needs more federal money...from 06 onward the dems really took advantage of the situation...look at contributions from the lenders to democrats, and the sweetheart deals that went down...you are the partisan, not me

403 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:07:50pm

re: #398 Cannadian Club Akbar

You're closer to the fridge.
/

well there you go by each according to their means... blah blah blah, heres you freakin beer...


( :) I shook it up first)

404 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:07:59pm

re: #401 Cannadian Club Akbar

So, pizza is on you?

Yes. But there's pineapple on it.

405 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:08:28pm

re: #404 JasonA

Yes. But there's pineapple on it.

BURN THE WITCH!

///

406 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:08:32pm

I'm working out the logistics for a 250 square foot greenhouse extension on my home. I have the money for the greenhouse itself but not the labor to build it. Looks like I'm going to have to do it myself. I'm not looking forward to climbing a ladder and attempting to balance a 3foot by 6 foot double paned sheet of glass over my head.

407 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:08:45pm

re: #404 JasonA

Yes. But there's pineapple on it.

PINEAPPLE HAS NO PLACE ON PIZZA!!!!

408 webevintage  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:08:45pm

re: #401 Cannadian Club Akbar

So, pizza is on you?

No pineapple....

409 SinisterBen  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:08:48pm

Yes sir, and on that note, I don't have enough time to research all my positions. Goodnight all. Thanks for the warm welcome.

410 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:08:57pm

re: #400 HoosierHoops

I have made a shitload of money from Bill Gates crappy software...He is my hero!
ALL HAIL BILL GATES!

GATES FOR PRESIDENT!

411 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:08:59pm

re: #405 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

BURN THE WITCH!

///

stone em first...

412 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:09:21pm

re: #402 albusteve

look at the facts...the dem congress was implementing Clintons housing dream...it went out of control, and to this day FM/FM needs more federal money...from 06 onward the dems really took advantage of the situation...look at contributions from the lenders to democrats, and the sweetheart deals that went down...you are the partisan, not me

Not really.

Home Ownership and President Bush

413 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:09:42pm

re: #404 JasonA

Yes. But there's pineapple on it.

a pox upon your ancestors...

414 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:09:48pm

re: #354 blueraven

They had control of both houses and the presidency...why didnt they do something?

Because this "Republicans warned about the bubble" is complete bullshit. In fact, most Republicans in Congress, as well as supply-siders, denied the existence of a bubble right up until the financial meltdown.

The housing crisis had many fathers from both parties -- but both the economic policy of the Bush Administration (cutting taxes, encouraging consumption) and the Alan Greenspan Fed didn't just do nothing to combat it. They both amplified the crisis and left the Treasury with a giant deficit before the current depression.

415 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:10:04pm

re: #412 Gus 802

Not really.

Home Ownership and President Bush


[Video]

Socialism!

416 Ojoe  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:10:10pm

re: #396 Reginald Perrin

Report the comment & it might be removed.

417 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:10:18pm

Just in case you don't have enough doom in your day:

New superbugs spreading from South Asia: study

Plastic surgery patients have carried a new class of superbugs resistant to almost all antibiotics from South Asia to Britain and they could spread worldwide, researchers reported Wednesday.

Many hospital infections that were already difficult to treat have become even more impervious to drugs thanks to a recently discovered gene that can jump across different species of bacteria.

This so-called NDM-1 gene was first identified last year by Cardiff University's Timothy Walsh in two types of bacteria -- Klebsiella pneumoniae and Escherichia coli -- in a Swedish patient admitted to hospital in India.

Worryingly, the new NDM-1 bacteria are resistant even to carbapenems, a group of antibiotics often reserved as a last resort for emergency treatment for multi-drug resistant bugs.

Recommend reading the whole thing.

418 Digital Display  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:10:22pm

re: #404 JasonA

Yes. But there's pineapple on it.

and only veggies..Sorry Lizards...BTW Jason's Deli next store to my Hotel has the greatest all you can eat Salad bar in the world...I think they hate me now...

419 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:10:24pm

re: #414 Nimed

There's enough blame for all of them.

420 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:10:25pm

re: #406 Killgore Trout

I'm working out the logistics for a 250 square foot greenhouse extension on my home. I have the money for the greenhouse itself but not the labor to build it. Looks like I'm going to have to do it myself. I'm not looking forward to climbing a ladder and attempting to balance a 3foot by 6 foot double paned sheet of glass over my head.

don't...you cannot do it alone
those things are touchy

421 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:10:28pm

re: #412 Gus 802

Not really.

Home Ownership and President Bush

[Video]

Or that is not entirely true.

422 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:10:38pm

And now we test.

423 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:11:11pm

re: #422 Charles

And now we test.

I forgot to study...

424 Ojoe  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:11:17pm

re: #396 Reginald Perrin

(Use the little exclamation point button.)

425 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:11:19pm

re: #422 Charles

And now we test.

Pee or written?

426 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:11:38pm

re: #422 Charles

And now we test.

Let's see now.

427 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:11:40pm

re: #425 Cannadian Club Akbar

Pee or written?

It can be both.

428 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:11:42pm

re: #422 Charles

And now we test.

... said Dr. Frankenstein as he was about to pull the level to turn on the electricity to the diodes.

429 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:11:56pm

re: #420 albusteve

don't...you cannot do it alone
those things are touchy

I'm considering creative solutions. I can brain my way out of this.

430 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:11:56pm

re: #415 Killgore Trout

Socialism!

Socialismo!

431 Reginald Perrin  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:12:11pm

re: #396 Reginald Perrin

One of our regulars made avile inappropriate insult towards SanFranciscoZionist, downstairs on the Anti-Muslim bigotry thread.

Is it possible to have that comment removed?

Thank you, that was quick.


I wonder if Spare will be an adult and make a sincere apology?

432 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:12:15pm

re: #426 Charles

Let's see now.

Owww! damit! cut that shit out!

433 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:12:16pm

Yes, we test.

434 Ojoe  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:12:30pm

BBL

435 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:12:44pm

re: #433 Charles

Yes, we test.

Ouch!

436 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:12:52pm

re: #396 Reginald Perrin

Your wish is granted.

Long live Jambi.

437 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:13:14pm

Oh yeah. We now have a feature that can email only replies to your comments. Talk to me quick.

438 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:13:19pm

re: #428 freetoken

... said Dr. Frankenstein as he was about to pull the level to turn on the electricity to the diodes.

That's Fronkenstine!

439 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:13:21pm
440 wee fury  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:13:30pm

re: #433 Charles

Yes, we test.


Ink or pencil?

441 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:13:36pm

re: #437 Charles

Oh yeah. We now have a feature that can email only replies to your comments. Talk to me quick.

Hello Charles.

442 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:13:57pm

re: #417 freetoken

Just in case you don't have enough doom in your day:

New superbugs spreading from South Asia: study

Recommend reading the whole thing.

Economic doomsday, budding nuclear powers, and now killer bugs.

I almost hear God going "Roll the dice, sucker."

443 DaddyLawBucks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:14:26pm

re: #412 Gus 802

Don't you think it's more likely that low interest rates promulgated by the FED lead to the housing bubble? That's what Greenspan admits at the end of his book. Bush did not want to reign in rates, because that would have slowed the economy. He made other economic mistakes too, but the housing crash was the worst, since it triggered a collapse. Financing tax reductions with deficit spending was a dumb idea in the long run too.

444 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:14:43pm

re: #437 Charles

Oh yeah. We now have a feature that can email only replies to your comments. Talk to me quick.

So they don't get posted? I'm an idiot. Work with me here.

445 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:14:51pm

re: #429 Killgore Trout

I'm considering creative solutions. I can brain my way out of this.

a-hole it's green... apply for stimulus money. 60 million should do it ;)

446 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:15:12pm

re: #443 daddylawbucks

Don't you think it's more likely that low interest rates promulgated by the FED lead to the housing bubble? That's what Greenspan admits at the end of his book. Bush did not want to reign in rates, because that would have slowed the economy. He made other economic mistakes too, but the housing crash was the worst, since it triggered a collapse. Financing tax reductions with deficit spending was a dumb idea in the long run too.

Yes.

447 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:15:15pm

re: #430 Gus 802

Socialismo!

We speak English here in 'Murika!!

448 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:15:18pm

re: #429 Killgore Trout

I'm considering creative solutions. I can brain my way out of this.

it can be done by one person...me
I did a long addition off my kitchen years back, but that's what I do, and I had to have another pair of hands here and there...think plumb and level, not close, but absolutely perfect...that's 4/5th of the battle

449 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:15:35pm

re: #442 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Economic doomsday, budding nuclear powers, and now killer bugs.

I almost hear God going "Roll the dice, sucker."

Yes but the WHO figured out that H1N1 isn't gonna kill us all.

450 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:16:10pm

If you reload the page you'll see that the "Email new comments" checkbox is now a drop-down menu with three options:

Not subscribed
Email all comments
Email replies to me

451 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:16:13pm

re: #444 Cannadian Club Akbar

So they don't get posted? I'm an idiot. Work with me here.

Yes. Yes you are. :P

They still get posted, but you, the poster, get emails of replies to the comments you've posted. At least that's what I'm getting from this...

452 DaddyLawBucks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:16:22pm

re: #426 Charles

do we need bluebooks?

453 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:16:58pm

re: #450 Charles

If you reload the page you'll see that the "Email new comments" checkbox is now a drop-down menu with three options:

Not subscribed
Email all comments
Email replies to me

OK but why?

454 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:17:00pm

re: #419 fat bastard vegetarian

There's enough blame for all of them.

There really is. Most of the dismantling of the restrictions to banking activity were passed with overwhelming bipartisan support.

455 blueraven  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:17:00pm

re: #402 albusteve

look at the facts...the dem congress was implementing Clintons housing dream...it went out of control, and to this day FM/FM needs more federal money...from 06 onward the dems really took advantage of the situation...look at contributions from the lenders to democrats, and the sweetheart deals that went down...you are the partisan, not me

A Bush concept...The ownership society
[Link: www.newsweek.com...]

456 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:17:03pm

re: #449 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yes but the WHO figured out that H1N1 isn't gonna kill us all.

Nah, but the next "global pandemic" is just around the corner. I lost interest in H1N1 after the 20th news "special" detailing just how similar it was to the Spanish Flu virus, as though medical technology and hygiene hadn't progressed at all in the last century.

457 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:17:21pm

re: #437 Charles

Wow!

(i don't know what that means)

458 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:17:28pm

Yes, it's a way to avoid missing it if someone replies to you. You get an automatic email when their comment is posted, if it contains the standard LGF 'reply' line.

459 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:17:56pm

Come on, work with me here, people. Heh.

460 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:18:24pm

re: #445 brookly red

a-hole it's green... apply for stimulus money. 60 million should do it ;)

I'll also be installing a 500 gallon cistern. I'm considering a wind turbine next year. Solar roof the year after that. Probably a gun or two at some point. I'll be energy, food and water independent before Glenn Beck and Alex Jones.

461 Digital Display  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:18:33pm

I think it would be cool to click on a posters name and all their comments would be emailed...So if I clicked Charles Nic every thing he posted would end up in my email box...Just an idea

462 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:18:43pm

re: #437 Charles

Oh yeah. We now have a feature that can email only replies to your comments. Talk to me quick.

Drink Trinaranjus.

463 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:18:57pm

re: #458 Charles

Yes, it's a way to avoid missing it if someone replies to you. You get an automatic email when their comment is posted, if it contains the standard LGF 'reply' line.

but I WANT to miss most people who reply to me, sheesh!

464 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:19:04pm

I get over a hundred emails a day I'm supposed to act on. LGF comments going to my email would put me right over the edge.

465 blueraven  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:19:31pm

re: #458 Charles

Very cool!!

466 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:19:33pm

Screw all of you. Did that work?

467 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:19:37pm

re: #458 Charles

Do I have this right?

I ask SFZ a question (like earlier) but she doesn't answer me until I'm beddie bye... next day I have a notification that she answered my query?

468 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:19:37pm

re: #464 Racer X

I get over a hundred emails a day I'm supposed to act on. LGF comments going to my email would put me right over the edge.

You say that as if it would be a bad thing.

469 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:19:55pm

re: #467 fat bastard vegetarian

Do I have this right?

I ask SFZ a question (like earlier) but she doesn't answer me until I'm beddie bye... next day I have a notification that she answered my query?

Eggs ackley.

470 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:20:21pm

re: #460 Killgore Trout

I'll also be installing a 500 gallon cistern. I'm considering a wind turbine next year. Solar roof the year after that. Probably a gun or two at some point. I'll be energy, food and water independent before Glenn Beck and Alex Jones.

serious, claim it will create jobs & ask the gubermint for money...

471 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:20:24pm

re: #468 Charles

You say that as if it would be a bad thing.

Hey, I'm walking a fine line as it is.

472 Digital Display  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:20:42pm

re: #464 Racer X

I get over a hundred emails a day I'm supposed to act on. LGF comments going to my email would put me right over the edge.

Filter to a email folder called LGF...Jeez I get 500-1000 emails a day at work
Man up! *wink*

473 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:20:52pm

re: #313 albusteve

Clinton inherited a decade of prosperity...an economy chugging along just fine when he took office...read a book

So did Bush, and he blew the surplus and then ran up credit card bills, and watched the economy do a nose dive in his last weeks in office.

Your point being?

474 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:21:56pm

re: #473 SanFranciscoZionist

So did Bush, and he blew the surplus and then ran up credit card bills, and watched the economy do a nose dive in his last weeks in office.

Your point being?

We should learn from past mistakes?

475 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:21:58pm

re: #414 Nimed

Because this "Republicans warned about the bubble" is complete bullshit. In fact, most Republicans in Congress, as well as supply-siders, denied the existence of a bubble right up until the financial meltdown.

The housing crisis had many fathers from both parties -- but both the economic policy of the Bush Administration (cutting taxes, encouraging consumption) and the Alan Greenspan Fed didn't just do nothing to combat it. They both amplified the crisis and left the Treasury with a giant deficit before the current depression.

Everyone forgets about the people who made huge bank off the bubble. The real estate agents, the appraisers, the mortgage brokers, the middleman banks. They new damn well they were signing up people for a adjustable mortgage that would end up beyond their means. They didn't care. Commissions baby, free market and all that.

476 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:21:58pm

re: #460 Killgore Trout

I'll also be installing a 500 gallon cistern. I'm considering a wind turbine next year. Solar roof the year after that. Probably a gun or two at some point. I'll be energy, food and water independent before Glenn Beck and Alex Jones.

So if you just buy seed, you can be completely autonomous. Who said no man is an island?

477 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:21:59pm

re: #331 daddylawbucks

forgive me, i thought there was a rule about not using our own names? The nick-names are fun, but are they mandatory?

Not required. Walter just uses his name.

478 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:22:15pm

Alright, but the second I get a reply telling me how to increase my penis-size by two inches I'm done.

479 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:22:23pm

re: #417 freetoken

Darwin's fault.

480 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:22:29pm

re: #474 Racer X

We should learn from past mistakes?

Too late. We're still setting up the super bubble.

481 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:23:01pm

re: #473 SanFranciscoZionist

Hey!

"I'm not gonna be ignored!"
-Alex Forrest

482 wee fury  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:23:07pm

So -- if I post this music


I may receive a deluge of responses in my e-mail inbox?
483 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:23:09pm

re: #478 JasonA

Alright, but the second I get a reply telling me how to increase my penis-size by two inches I'm done.

2 words. Cinder block.
/

484 DaddyLawBucks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:23:26pm

re: #478 JasonA

thats why the Goats like Breitbarth better than you..........

485 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:23:34pm

re: #473 SanFranciscoZionist

re: #475 Stanley Sea

The good part of the depression is the final utter collapse of Reagan/Thatcher economic theory. Its almost as dead as communism.

486 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:24:14pm

re: #480 Gus 802

Too late. We're still setting up the super bubble.

yup. 16 trillion in debt & no way to pay it... super bubble for sure.

although we could start a war or something...

487 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:24:34pm

re: #475 Stanley Sea

Everyone forgets about the people who made huge bank off the bubble. The real estate agents, the appraisers, the mortgage brokers, the middleman banks. They new damn well they were signing up people for a adjustable mortgage that would end up beyond their means. They didn't care. Commissions baby, free market and all that.

Yep. If only there were some regulatory agency that was there to keep an eye on these financial institutions. Someone to make sure they weren't screwing the little guy or the public. Something like a Senate or House oversight committee. Something like that would be cool.

488 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:24:40pm

lol

Went straight to my spam folder :D

489 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:24:53pm

re: #478 JasonA

Alright, but the second I get a reply telling me how to increase my penis-size by two inches I'm done.

Just tell your girlfriend not to comment on LGF.
/

490 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:25:06pm

re: #480 Gus 802

Too late. We're still setting up the super bubble.

No. Doubt.

491 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:25:35pm

re: #460 Killgore Trout

I'll also be installing a 500 gallon cistern. I'm considering a wind turbine next year. Solar roof the year after that. Probably a gun or two at some point. I'll be energy, food and water independent before Glenn Beck and Alex Jones.

Preparing for the coming zombie apocalypse?

/

492 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:25:36pm

re: #375 fat bastard vegetarian

Hay thar... what's yer avatar about?

It's a Moroccan artist's imagining of al-Kahina, the Jewish Berber leader who fought the Arabs when they invaded North Africa.

I like her earrings, and she's one of the very few Jewish girls in combat I've been able to find out about pre-20th-century.

493 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:25:41pm

re: #486 brookly red

yup. 16 trillion in debt & no way to pay it... super bubble for sure.

although we could start a war or something...

Can we attack the Bahamas? I'll storm that beach. In a thong.
//

494 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:25:45pm

re: #455 blueraven

A Bush concept...The ownership society
[Link: www.newsweek.com...]

like I said...I blame congress, that's where the rubber hits the road...but both Bush and McCain warned Dodd about the unsustainability of these sub prime loans, that's a fact...and the dems are still up to their old tricks with the rebate gig...congress definitely favors the banks, hence Wall Street

495 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:26:02pm

re: #489 Nimed

Just tell your girlfriend not to comment on LGF.
/

Hmmm. Can we filter out responses from certain posters, I wonder...? :P

496 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:26:08pm

re: #361 SanFranciscoZionist

I swear, there were people here before the election telling me very seriously that it would be cheaper not to work under the Obama administration. It would save on taxes, I admit, but I still haven't been able to figure out how to give up my job completely. The numbers won't crunch.

haha are those people no longer with us? :D

497 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:26:54pm

re: #460 Killgore Trout

I'll also be installing a 500 gallon cistern. I'm considering a wind turbine next year. Solar roof the year after that. Probably a gun or two at some point. I'll be energy, food and water independent before Glenn Beck and Alex Jones.

you da man...do it

498 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:27:01pm

re: #493 Cannadian Club Akbar

Can we attack the Bahamas? I'll storm that beach. In a thong.
//

don't laugh

499 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:27:10pm

re: #396 Reginald Perrin

One of our regulars made avile inappropriate insult towards SanFranciscoZionist, downstairs on the Anti-Muslim bigotry thread.

Is it possible to have that comment removed?

Apparently, because it's gone now.

500 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:27:13pm

re: #370 HoosierHoops

BB's or iPods didn't exist back then...When Clinton was elected the economy sucked big time.. Clinton flew all the best and brightest business leaders to Washington for a summit to brain storm solutions..There was no boom..People were hurting...His actions gave Confidence to the business world..IMO

I was in high school when clinton took office, and boy it shit sure didn't seem like a boom to my family.

501 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:27:59pm

re: #469 Charles

Eggs ackley.

too kewl...nothing but dust behind you

502 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:28:18pm

re: #464 Racer X

I get over a hundred emails a day I'm supposed to act on. LGF comments going to my email would put me right over the edge.

Just be happy I don't have your work addy. Seriously.

503 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:28:35pm

re: #460 Killgore Trout

I'll also be installing a 500 gallon cistern. I'm considering a wind turbine next year. Solar roof the year after that. Probably a gun or two at some point. I'll be energy, food and water independent before Glenn Beck and Alex Jones.

/and seized by the Feds first too...

504 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:28:37pm

re: #474 Racer X

We should learn from past mistakes?

Good idea.

505 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:29:00pm

re: #493 Cannadian Club Akbar

Can we attack the Bahamas? I'll storm that beach. In a thong.
//

Caymans is more like it. But they are under the British Crown...

506 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:29:24pm

re: #485 windsagio

re: #475 Stanley Sea

The good part of the depression is the final utter collapse of Reagan/Thatcher economic theory. Its almost as dead as communism.

It won't stay dead for long. I predict undeath.

Seriously -- Friedman's monetarist theory, which was first implemented by Reagan and Tatcher, had a considerable success.

507 blueraven  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:30:15pm

re: #494 albusteve

like I said...I blame congress, that's where the rubber hits the road...but both Bush and McCain warned Dodd about the unsustainability of these sub prime loans, that's a fact...and the dems are still up to their old tricks with the rebate gig...congress definitely favors the banks, hence Wall Street

Dodd was not in charge, nor was Barney Frank, until Jan 2007. Yes, I blame congress too, among others. But it is really tiresome to hear that old Dodd/Frank did it meme. It is just not true.

508 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:30:26pm

re: #496 WindUpBird

haha are those people no longer with us? :D

A few have stayed on.

509 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:31:25pm

re: #507 blueraven

Dodd was not in charge, nor was Barney Frank, until Jan 2007. Yes, I blame congress too, among others. But it is really tiresome to hear that old Dodd/Frank did it meme. It is just not true.

Quite concur.

The blame dance.

510 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:31:29pm

re: #473 SanFranciscoZionist

So did Bush, and he blew the surplus and then ran up credit card bills, and watched the economy do a nose dive in his last weeks in office.

Your point being?

agreed...the point is Clinton doesn't deserve any credit for a strong economy, and years later Bush squandered it...I've made that point several times

511 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:31:50pm

re: #509 Stanley Sea

oops (DF)

512 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:32:54pm

re: #469 Charles

Eggs ackley.

Facebook (yeah, I know you're not a fan) has a feature where a little bubble pops up when someone responds to your post or "likes" your post. (Cowardly fuckers still don't have a dislike).

I always thought that was kinda kewl...

I wonder how many women have thrown themselves at me here, and I just never saw their posts. I'm sure there are many.

*Blink*

513 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:33:12pm

re: #480 Gus 802

Too late. We're still setting up the super bubble.

yep...the big one is booked and on the way

514 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:34:44pm

Come to think of it, I remember a former coworker telling me before the election that if Obama was elected, basically black people would get all the white peoples' welfare, and that means black people wouldn't have to work under Obama, they could just all hang out and get rich.

I worked with some fucked up people.

515 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:35:00pm

re: #487 Racer X

Yep. If only there were some regulatory agency that was there to keep an eye on these financial institutions. Someone to make sure they weren't screwing the little guy or the public. Something like a Senate or House oversight committee. Something like that would be cool.

that would be congress...donk you very much since 2006

516 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:35:45pm

re: #514 WindUpBird

Come to think of it, I remember a former coworker telling me before the election that if Obama was elected, basically black people would get all the white peoples' welfare, and that means black people wouldn't have to work under Obama, they could just all hang out and get rich.

I worked with some fucked up people.

Too much Dave Chappelle, you ask me.

517 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:36:14pm

My medicine is making me sleepy, so I'm going to say goodnight and get to bed, Sleep well, all.

518 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:36:27pm

re: #517 Dark_Falcon

My medicine is making me sleepy, so I'm going to say goodnight and get to bed, Sleep well, all.

Get rest.

519 DaddyLawBucks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:36:48pm

re: #517 Dark_Falcon

hope you feel better

520 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:37:36pm

re: #517 Dark_Falcon

These pretzels are making me thirsty!

521 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:37:40pm

re: #514 WindUpBird

You probably remember how a large scale terrorist attack was virtually guaranteed in the first months because Obama was such a gift to terrorists everywhere.

522 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:37:46pm

re: #517 Dark_Falcon

My medicine is making me sleepy, so I'm going to say goodnight and get to bed, Sleep well, all.

Hope you feel better DF

523 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:38:13pm

re: #521 Nimed

You probably remember how a large scale terrorist attack was virtually guaranteed in the first months because Obama was such a gift to terrorists everywhere.

Was that Biden?

524 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:38:49pm

re: #175 Gus 802

Yeah. Denver. It's run just like the UN here. Socialism everywhere.

//

I've seen all you people and your beer festivals. SHARING BEER?!?!? THAT'S COMMIE TALK

525 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:38:57pm

re: #520 fat bastard vegetarian

These pretzels are making me thirsty!

OMG!! They run Seinfeld from 11 til midnight here.

526 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:39:18pm

re: #521 Nimed

You probably remember how a large scale terrorist attack was virtually guaranteed in the first months because Obama was such a gift to terrorists everywhere.

we have dodged a few...

527 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:39:28pm

re: #523 fat bastard vegetarian

Was that Biden?

yes...very close to that

528 blueraven  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:39:42pm

re: #515 albusteve

that would be congress...donk you very much since 2006

No, no partisan here...
And that would be Jan 2007, but who's counting. Lets see, that makes 6 years of republican rule to one year of democratic rule when the recession hit.

529 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:40:32pm

re: #524 WindUpBird

I've seen all you people and your beer festivals. SHARING BEER?!?!? THAT'S COMMIE TALK

I haven't been to one in years. Damn it was a cold day. Some beer fest in Lodo. Was never a beer guy myself. Although, tonight my whiskey tastes like aftershave. Of course, I never really tasted aftershave.

530 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:40:53pm

re: #431 Reginald Perrin

Thank you, that was quick.

I wonder if Spare will be an adult and make a sincere apology?

???

531 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:41:15pm

re: #528 blueraven

No, no partisan here...
And that would be Jan 2007, but who's counting. Lets see, that makes 6 years of republican rule to one year of democratic rule when the recession hit.

Hey everything was hunky dory until the donks took over.

532 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:41:24pm

re: #530 b_sharp

???

He called SFZ something very not nice.

533 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:41:48pm

I have another business plan! Tomorrow is Lotto night. Damn, maybe this time I will win 3 bucks.

/

534 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:42:32pm

re: #525 Cannadian Club Akbar

OMG!! They run Seinfeld from 11 til midnight here EVERYWHERE!.

535 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:43:30pm

re: #401 Cannadian Club Akbar

So, pizza is on you?

Without pineapple

536 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:44:04pm

re: #491 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Preparing for the coming zombie apocalypse?

/

Why the sarc tag?
/Zombies scare the fuck out of me.

537 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:44:07pm

re: #533 Gus 802

I have another business plan! Tomorrow is Lotto night. Damn, maybe this time I will win 3 bucks.

/

Worst part of Lotto? That person in front of you who has to get five dollars for it... and mega... and take five... and two of every scratch off available... while I just want a cup of frickin' coffee!

538 blueraven  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:44:30pm

re: #531 Racer X

Hey everything was hunky dory until the donks took over.

If it soothes you to think so...go for it.

539 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:44:35pm

re: #534 fat bastard vegetarian

OMG. They are running the one where George gets his glasses stolen and he eats the onion. Fucking comedy, the way it was supposed to be.

540 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:44:56pm

re: #532 JasonA

He called SFZ something very not nice.

/worse than liberal? seriously the name calling here is kinda outta hand some times...

541 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:45:32pm

re: #534 fat bastard vegetarian

can you say new world order?

542 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:45:42pm

re: #535 Mr Pancakes

Without pineapple

Charles, can we have a poll?

543 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:45:43pm

re: #536 Killgore Trout

Did you see "Zombieland"? Great frickin' Zombie movie.

544 Deadletterboy  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:45:51pm

This is way off topic, but I just watched one of the best short films I've seen in a long, long time. But if you don't dig Spike Jonze or robots in love, I advise against it.

I'm Here

545 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:46:24pm

re: #540 brookly red

/worse than liberal? seriously the name calling here is kinda outta hand some times...

all the time

546 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:46:56pm

re: #532 JasonA

He called SFZ something very not nice.

I've been riding his case about the mosque. Maybe we need to back off for a while.

547 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:47:36pm

re: #545 albusteve

all the time

no I have seen an increase in name calling & pile ons...

548 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:47:54pm

re: #542 Cannadian Club Akbar

Charles, can we have a poll?

This is all my fault..... I mentioned on here the other day a neighbor brought over some Hawaiian pizza and I chomped it.

549 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:48:10pm

re: #546 SanFranciscoZionist

I've been riding his case about the mosque. Maybe we need to back off for a while.

yes, since there is nothing there

550 Deadletterboy  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:48:25pm

Oops, fucked that up. Actual site for the film is here.

551 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:48:48pm

re: #536 Killgore Trout

Why the sarc tag?
/Zombies scare the fuck out of me.

Force of habit.

552 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:48:56pm

re: #547 brookly red

no I have seen an increase in name calling & pile ons...

Or pushbacks!!!!

553 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:49:14pm

re: #546 SanFranciscoZionist

I've been riding his case about the mosque. Maybe we need to back off for a while.

Not before you reach a compromise, I hope. That's his latest thing, right? Compromise.

554 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:49:22pm

re: #536 Killgore Trout

Why the sarc tag?
/Zombies scare the fuck out of me.

Yea they are getting faster

555 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:49:57pm

re: #552 Stanley Sea

Or pushbacks!!!

no I can push you back with out calling you a name...

556 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:49:59pm

Well... I need to get to bed. And I need to pee. Hopefully, I'll remember to reverse the order of those statements in real life.

G'night Knuckleheads!

557 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:50:17pm

Watchulookinat?

Image: pic-181.jpg

558 Racer X  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:51:00pm

Inferno indeed.

Image: pic-141.jpg

559 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:51:32pm

re: #557 Racer X

Watchulookinat?

Image: pic-181.jpg

DOWN IN FRONT!

560 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:52:03pm

re: #553 Nimed

Not before you reach a compromise, I hope. That's his latest thing, right? Compromise.

You know what? There is no compromise between bigotry and not.

No compromise.

I've said many times, the Republican that shows the strength of standing up for what's right OUT LOUD will win. They will win.

Too bad, there's no hero's these days. It will take a hero type to snap this demagoguery out.

561 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:52:12pm

re: #536 Killgore Trout

Why the sarc tag?
/Zombies scare the fuck out of me.

You're relatively lucky. NYC is a very bad place to be in the event of a zombie outbreak.

562 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:52:12pm

Tea Party kook Ken Buck won in Colorado.

563 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:52:23pm

re: #543 fat bastard vegetarian

Did you see "Zombieland"? Great frickin' Zombie movie.

I really liked it. 28 days later was good too...

I also really liked the first half of I am Legend...

564 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:52:59pm

re: #562 Charles

Tea Party kook Ken Buck won in Colorado.

Buck needs a timeout

565 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:53:04pm

re: #555 brookly red

no I can push you back with out calling you a name...

huh? nothing personal Brookly, just commenting on the pushback to the threads. Nothing personal.

566 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:53:29pm

re: #563 Killgore Trout


Shaun of the Dead!

567 blueraven  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:54:04pm

re: #562 Charles

Tea Party kook Ken Buck won in Colorado.

Maybe he will be another Sharon Angle?

568 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:54:11pm

re: #566 WindUpBird

Shaun of the Dead!

That's on my list....... next up Zombie Strippers!

569 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:54:17pm

re: #563 Killgore Trout

How did Bill Murray not get an Oscar nod?

570 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:54:31pm

re: #567 blueraven

Maybe he will be another Sharon Angle?

Probably not, though he isn't that far from her viewpoint.

571 DaddyLawBucks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:54:46pm

re: #568 Mr Pancakes

Pole dancing Zombies?

572 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:54:53pm

re: #71 PT Barnum

I wasn't even doing programming back then. In 89 I was still working in radio. Thank god I figured out that wasn't my calling.

You worked in radio? I want to hear stories :D

573 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:55:03pm

re: #571 daddylawbucks

Pole dancing Zombies?

Yea

574 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:55:17pm

re: #562 Charles

Gonna be a Wrestlemania in MA!

575 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:55:20pm

re: #560 Stanley Sea

Not to mention that, in this particular case, it's kinda hard to come up with a middle ground. It's really just mosque or no mosque.

576 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:55:22pm

re: #567 blueraven

Maybe he will be another Sharon Angle?

The lloigor were also called the Many Angled Ones

577 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:55:39pm

re: #566 WindUpBird

Shaun of the Dead!

Classic.

578 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:56:07pm

Nighty all.

579 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:56:21pm

re: #565 Stanley Sea

huh? nothing personal Brookly, just commenting on the pushback to the threads. Nothing personal.

no offense taken...

580 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:56:50pm

re: #575 Nimed

Not to mention that, in this particular case, it's kinda hard to come up with a middle ground. It's really just mosque or no mosque.

They could compromise and build it somewhere far away from Manhattan.

Like Murfreesboro, TN.

581 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:56:52pm

re: #578 Cannadian Club Akbar

Nighty all.

Goodnight canook.

582 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:56:55pm

re: #562 Charles

Tea Party kook Ken Buck won in Colorado.

His opponent was just another standard SoCon though, so it's not like the Repbulicans had that big of a choice.

583 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:56:55pm

re: #575 Nimed

Talking about zombies and shit, and you have to bring up the mosque....
/

584 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:56:59pm

re: #562 Charles

Tea Party kook Ken Buck won in Colorado.

Their strategy is working!

585 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:57:17pm

re: #532 JasonA

He called SFZ something very not nice.

He pissed on SFZ? Time to jam a stick up his ass.

Now I'm pissed.

586 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:57:32pm

re: #580 SanFranciscoZionist

Nah... too many gay bars...
/

Really! Bed!

587 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:57:38pm

re: #575 Nimed

Not to mention that, in this particular case, it's kinda hard to come up with a middle ground. It's really just mosque or no mosque.

either you bow to irrational bigotry or you don't, totally

I love this notion that people in one part of New York get to arbitrarily decide where a place of worship goes in another part of New York.

It's so ridiculous, it's just patently absurd

588 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:57:56pm

re: #562 Charles

Tea Party kook Ken Buck won in Colorado.

Senator Bennet beat Romanoff in the Dem primary in CO.

589 Velvet Elvis  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:58:24pm

re: #564 Mr Pancakes

Buck needs a timeout

Was he the one who said bike sharing programs are part of a UN plot to start one world government or something like that?

590 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:58:25pm

re: #575 Nimed

Not to mention that, in this particular case, it's kinda hard to come up with a middle ground. It's really just mosque or no mosque.

well wouldn't mosque somewhere else be considered middle ground?

591 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:58:25pm

re: #584 darthstar

Their strategy is working!

Well it was a communist foot

592 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:58:30pm

re: #563 Killgore Trout

Never watched it, but I've heard good things about REC.

593 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:58:35pm

re: #506 Nimed

In the short term, yeah. But its unsupportable. how many of these have we gotta have?

594 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:59:24pm

re: #585 b_sharp

He pissed on SFZ? Time to jam a stick up his ass.

Now I'm pissed.

stick up his ass?...please
get a grip, it's a blog

595 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:59:38pm

re: #569 fat bastard vegetarian

How did Bill Murray not get an Oscar nod?

Did he get something for Lost in Translation. I hate chick flicks but hat was an awesome movie.

596 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:59:49pm

re: #589 Conservative Moonbat

Was he the one who said bike sharing programs are part of a UN plot to start one world government or something like that?

Not sure...... I was making to a connection to a poster who used Cato's real name.

597 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 8:59:50pm

Just visit the site of Jane Norton, Buck's opponent, to see what the alternative to Buck believes:

[Link: janenortonforcolorado.com...]

This CO contest always was going to put a hard-right candidate in the GOP slot.

598 windsagio  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:00:08pm

oops dammit work. Guess I was just back for a second >


Peaces!

599 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:00:25pm

re: #568 Mr Pancakes

That's on my list... next up Zombie Strippers!

Absolutely hilarious, especially Jenna and the pool balls.

600 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:00:36pm

re: #585 b_sharp

He pissed on SFZ? Time to jam a stick up his ass.

Does he have room for another one?

601 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:00:40pm

re: #587 WindUpBird

either you bow to irrational bigotry or you don't, totally

I love this notion that people in one part of New York get to arbitrarily decide where a place of worship goes in another part of New York.

It's so ridiculous, it's just patently absurd

but absurd enough to generate 2000 posts...
all repeating themselves

602 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:00:40pm

Charles, I think there is a flaw in the system with the new feature. I have about 120 emails. I'll delete the tomorrow. Seems to be EVERY POST!!

603 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:00:55pm

re: #594 albusteve

stick up his ass?...please
get a grip, it's a blog

see what I mean... that is just uncalled for.

604 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:01:14pm

re: #602 Cannadian Club Akbar

Charles, I think there is a flaw in the system with the new feature. I have about 120 emails. I'll delete the tomorrow. Seems to be EVERY POST!!

Dude...
Did you reload the page? Or did you just check the box?

605 Velvet Elvis  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:01:16pm

re: #596 Mr Pancakes

I might have replied to the wrong post. I was talking about the Buck guy.

606 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:01:17pm

re: #599 b_sharp

Absolutely hilarious, especially Jenna and the pool balls.

Thanks..... I kinda perused it and it looked entertaining.

607 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:01:26pm

re: #575 Nimed

Not to mention that, in this particular case, it's kinda hard to come up with a middle ground. It's really just mosque or no mosque.

No, nothing at all to do with a Mosque. That's the demagoguery. All you need to do is replace it with "Temple" This type of talk is not and should not be allowed, regardless of religion.

How we gave it all up, 9+ years later after the terrorist attack blows me away.
Very dangerous shit happening, again.

608 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:01:38pm

re: #583 fat bastard vegetarian

Talking about zombies and shit, and you have to bring up the mosque...
/

:) The zombie has a religious origin, right? Voodoo, I think.

609 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:01:52pm

re: #590 brookly red

well wouldn't mosque somewhere else be considered middle ground?

Like Temecula?

610 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:01:56pm

re: #604 JasonA

Dude...
Did you reload the page? Or did you just check the box?

I reloaded and have a 120 emails.

611 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:02:17pm

re: #594 albusteve

stick up his ass?...please
get a grip, it's a blog

Mind your own business Steve.

612 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:02:31pm

re: #603 brookly red

see what I mean... that is just uncalled for.

I see...some crude MFs out there

613 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:02:44pm

re: #610 Cannadian Club Akbar

I reloaded and have a 120 emails.

There are two options. "Email replies to me," or "Email all comments."

I think I know which one you selected...

614 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:02:50pm

re: #594 albusteve

stick up his ass?...please
get a grip, it's a blog

You know, I'm not breaking a sweat over this myself, especially having not actually seen what was written, but Steve, do you always have to be so quick to forgive people when they insult others? I know Yom Kippur is coming, but dangit...

615 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:03:06pm

re: #600 JasonA

Does he have room for another one?

I have some railroad ties I'm sure can be jammed up there.

616 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:03:36pm

re: #613 JasonA

There are two options. "Email replies to me," or "Email all comments."

I think I know which one you selected...

Got ya. Thank you sir.

617 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:03:55pm

re: #611 b_sharp

Mind your own business Steve.

you are my business if I say so...
relax and and try to enjoy yourself without going neanderthal

618 Velvet Elvis  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:04:23pm

re: #602 Cannadian Club Akbar

Charles, I think there is a flaw in the system with the new feature. I have about 120 emails. I'll delete the tomorrow. Seems to be EVERY POST!!

My rule is that if there is something on the web and there's an option for it to email me, I leave that option turned off. Without exception, always.

619 prairiefire  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:05:03pm

re: #602 Cannadian Club Akbar

Charles, I think there is a flaw in the system with the new feature. I have about 120 emails. I'll delete the tomorrow. Seems to be EVERY POST!!

Hello, CCA
Hello, CCA
Hello, CCA
Hello, CCA
Hello, CCA
Hello, CCA

620 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:05:24pm

re: #593 windsagio

In the short term, yeah. But its unsupportable. how many of these have we gotta have?

Oh, Monetarism is actually separable from the fiscal and labor policies implemented by Reagan and Tatcher. It just came to be associated with the period.

621 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:05:52pm

re: #619 prairiefire

Hello, CCA
Hello, CCA
Hello, CCA
Hello, CCA
Hello, CCA
Hello, CCA

Har.
//

622 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:06:00pm

re: #611 b_sharp

Mind your own business Steve.

actually inserting a stick in someone's ass could be seen as an act of violence... and well you know.

623 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:06:03pm

re: #619 prairiefire

LOL (tks!)

624 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:06:43pm

re: #614 SanFranciscoZionist

You know, I'm not breaking a sweat over this myself, especially having not actually seen what was written, but Steve, do you always have to be so quick to forgive people when they insult others? I know Yom Kippur is coming, but dangit...

Yom whatever means nothing to me...decency does and posting about sticking stuff up peoples asses is lewd, crude and uncalled for

625 Mich-again  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:06:57pm

re: #622 brookly red

actually inserting a stick in someone's ass could be seen as an act of violence... and well you know.

Worse than waterboarding thats for sure.

626 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:07:05pm

Hmmm... testing
re: #613 JasonA

re: #613 JasonA

re: #613 JasonA

re: #613 JasonA

re: #613 JasonA

re: #613 JasonA

627 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:07:53pm

re: #590 brookly red

well wouldn't mosque somewhere else be considered middle ground?

It wouldn't service that community if it was built somewhere else.

628 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:07:56pm

re: #624 albusteve

Yom whatever means nothing to me...decency does and posting about sticking stuff up peoples asses is lewd, crude and uncalled for

Oh, get over your anal hang-ups already. It's not like someone wants to tickle your sphincter with a piece of cord-wood.

629 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:07:56pm

I am already a confessed moron. Everyone back off. I have emails to delete!!
/see ya'll in the morning.

630 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:08:04pm

re: #626 JasonA

Alright, cool.

631 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:08:13pm

Bohemian Rhapsody


/Namaste, Y'all
632 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:08:15pm

re: #622 brookly red

actually inserting a stick in someone's ass could be seen as an act of violence... and well you know.

It's a figurative stick up his figurative ass. I'm not suggesting real violence.

If Charles feels it's outside his boundaries, he'll have my posts deleted.

633 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:08:17pm

re: #629 Cannadian Club Akbar

I am already a confessed moron. Everyone back off. I have emails to delete!!
/see ya'll in the morning.

{CCA}

634 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:08:30pm

re: #607 Stanley Sea

No, nothing at all to do with a Mosque. That's the demagoguery. All you need to do is replace it with "Temple" This type of talk is not and should not be allowed, regardless of religion.

How we gave it all up, 9+ years later after the terrorist attack blows me away.
Very dangerous shit happening, again.

To be fair, if the actual neighbors had an actual concern, then of course the mosque committee should sit down with them and go over it. Some things you can fix.

A lizard from TN mentioned some concern about the mosque in his area having a cemetery attached, and apparently people are worried because Muslim burial customs traditionally don't use coffins. That's, I think, a worry based in ignorance, but it's easy to fix, you get the community leaders in for coffee and introduce them to the funeral home you use.

Now, some things you can't fix. When the synagogue down the street from my mom rebuilt, there were about a bazillion meetings, during which the synagogue employees and board explained exactly what was going on and calmed everyone's fears, and explained why there wasn't a problem, and we still had people having little freakouts, and there was nothing to do except rebuild the shul anyway. It looks horrible, IMHO, but it's won some awards, and there you go.

So if New York Dolls Strip Club is worried that the call to prayer will disrupt their patron's hangovers, there should be a meeting. OTOH, people from outside Manhattan having cows is not something the mosque can or should do anything about.

635 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:08:41pm

re: #625 Mich-again

Worse than waterboarding thats for sure.

heh...true

636 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:08:49pm

re: #625 Mich-again

Worse than waterboarding thats for sure.

well just not the kind of thing that a blog wants to be associated with... well IMO anyway.

637 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:09:15pm

re: #608 Nimed

:) The zombie has a religious origin, right? Voodoo, I think.

I don't know if it has religious significance in voodoo, but it's out of the same tradition, Yoruba beliefs syncretized to Catholicism in the New World.

638 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:09:30pm

re: #628 darthstar

Oh, get over your anal hang-ups already. It's not like someone wants to tickle your sphincter with a piece of cord-wood.

it's not my anal hangup...don't be a dope

639 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:10:01pm

re: #638 albusteve

it's not my anal hangup...don't be a dope

No, it's just fake indignation...

640 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:10:11pm

re: #628 darthstar

Oh, get over your anal hang-ups already. It's not like someone wants to tickle your sphincter with a piece of cord-wood.

*slowly puts away piece of cord-wood...*

641 BongCrodny  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:11:16pm

re: #313 albusteve

Clinton inherited a decade of prosperity...an economy chugging along just fine when he took office...read a book

I guess I must have hallucinated Ross Perot running for the Presidency in order to fix the economy.

642 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:11:25pm

re: #632 b_sharp

It's a figurative stick up his figurative ass. I'm not suggesting real violence.

If Charles feels it's outside his boundaries, he'll have my posts deleted.

of course, carry on.

643 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:11:54pm

re: #632 b_sharp

It's a figurative stick up his figurative ass. I'm not suggesting real violence.

If Charles feels it's outside his boundaries, he'll have my posts deleted.

ooh so offensive! /

(sticking up for the culprit = the reason)

644 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:11:55pm

re: #639 darthstar

No, it's just fake indignation...

it's not fake at all...a lot of people read this blog, don't be stupid

645 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:12:38pm

re: #641 BongCrodny

I guess I must have hallucinated Ross Perot running for the Presidency in order to fix the economy.

Is that what Ross was doing? I never totally figured it out.

646 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:13:17pm

re: #644 albusteve

it's not fake at all...a lot of people read this blog, don't be stupid

And they're probably wondering why you're overreacting to a comment that was, for all intents and purposes, obvious hyperbole...or maybe they're smart enough to recognize that on their own and don't give a shit.

647 Mich-again  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:14:01pm

re: #641 BongCrodny

I guess I must have hallucinated Ross Perot running for the Presidency in order to fix the economy.


Ah yes, Ross Perot and Admiral Stockdale. The dream ticket. They pulled in just enough votes to put WJBC over the top.

648 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:14:37pm

There's too much annoyance here tonight, so I'm outa here.

Take care friends.

649 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:14:41pm

re: #628 darthstar

Oh, get over your anal hang-ups already. It's not like someone wants to tickle your sphincter with a piece of cord-wood.

Maybe that's the problem.

650 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:14:53pm

re: #634 SanFranciscoZionist

Thanks for the as usual reasoned response. :)

651 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:15:31pm

re: #646 darthstar

And they're probably wondering why you're overreacting to a comment that was, for all intents and purposes, obvious hyperbole...or maybe they're smart enough to recognize that on their own and don't give a shit.

I'm not over reacting, just trying to be civil

652 DaddyLawBucks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:15:34pm

re: #649 Nimed

Did I miss anything? Just ran all the way to the store and back to get a pound of crisco..........

653 CarleeCork  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:15:38pm

re: #494 albusteve

like I said...I blame congress, that's where the rubber hits the road...but both Bush and McCain warned Dodd about the unsustainability of these sub prime loans, that's a fact...and the dems are still up to their old tricks with the rebate gig...congress definitely favors the banks, hence Wall Street

Who made the majority of the subprime loans? It wasn't the FMs. Look it up people, the info is out there.

654 darthstar  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:15:43pm

Okay...I'm going to take some time off before someone gets upset over vague pronoun references.

655 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:17:09pm

re: #654 darthstar

Okay...I'm going to take some time off before someone gets upset over vague pronoun references.

Up your ass dude.

Live with it too.

656 CarleeCork  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:17:39pm

re: #510 albusteve

agreed...the point is Clinton doesn't deserve any credit for a strong economy, and years later Bush squandered it...I've made that point several times

So who deserves the credit pray tell?

657 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:17:41pm

re: #636 brookly red

well just not the kind of thing that a blog wants to be associated with... well IMO anyway.

While on the other hand forcing a rape victim to have a wand shoved up her vagina is "a position to be negotiated down from."

658 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:18:31pm

re: #655 Stanley Sea

Up your ass dude.

Live with it too.

Stop flirting with Darth. He's married.

659 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:20:07pm

re: #658 JasonA

Stop flirting with Darth. He's married.

My common sense left me for a minute there. Thank you much for the life line!

660 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:21:19pm

re: #657 goddamnedfrank

While on the other hand forcing a rape victim to have a wand shoved up her vagina is "a position to be negotiated down from."

Wowzas.

661 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:21:21pm

re: #657 goddamnedfrank

While on the other hand forcing a rape victim to have a wand shoved up her vagina is "a position to be negotiated down from."

well I am glad your stalking finally paid off... but we we discussing comments from one poster to another so since the precedent has already been set I suggest you stick that where the sun don't shine :)

662 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:21:59pm

Let me just say....

Defending a guy who's been balancing the cliff for awhile now when he disparages SFZ does not put you on the side of the angels.

663 Mich-again  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:22:39pm

I heard a new conspiracy theory today. via word of mouth, the way the best ct's are spread. ha. That the US has a artificial weather machine HARPS (?) in Alaska that is creating the deadly heat wave around Moscow. Yep folks, not only is global warming a big myth, its happening on purpose. Wrap your brain around that logic. How long till Glen Beck wonders aloud about this.

664 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:23:21pm

re: #657 goddamnedfrank

While on the other hand forcing a rape victim to have a wand shoved up her vagina is "a position to be negotiated down from."

and you conveniently left out the part where I retracted once I realized the law had actually been passed, but that is you style.

665 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:23:56pm

re: #663 Mich-again

I heard a new conspiracy theory today. via word of mouth, the way the best ct's are spread. ha. That the US has a artificial weather machine HARPS (?) in Alaska that is creating the deadly heat wave around Moscow. Yep folks, not only is global warming a big myth, its happening on purpose. Wrap your brain around that logic. How long till Glen Beck wonders aloud about this.

Is this in the vault that Bush's earthquake machine useta be in before he took it back to Texas with him?

666 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:25:06pm
667 Mich-again  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:25:35pm

re: #665 SanFranciscoZionist

Is this in the vault that Bush's earthquake machine useta be in before he took it back to Texas with him?

Yeah they reprogrammed the earthquake maker. Super Sekrit Software

668 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:25:45pm

re: #664 brookly red

and you conveniently left out the part where I retracted once I realized the law had actually been passed, but that is you style.

Maybe he objects to the idea in the sense that that there are some ideas too horrific to be taken up/ argued for even if you purposely intend to give them up later on.

For example, single payer is a position you bring to the table to negotiate down from.... forcing rape victims to undergo vaginal probing if they want an abortion... you shouldn't even joke about/bring that to the table even if you do it while arguing in bad faith.

669 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:26:15pm

re: #666 Gus 802

The Who - Won't Get Fooled Again


[Video]

nice...but I think we will

670 freetoken  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:26:20pm

re: #663 Mich-again

Angels don't play that HAARP, eh?

671 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:26:35pm

re: #664 brookly red

and you conveniently left out the part where I retracted once I realized the law had actually been passed, but that is you style.

A retraction doesn't change the part where you actually said it, you know.

672 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:26:37pm

re: #669 albusteve

nice...but I think we will

Yep.

673 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:29:40pm

re: #668 jamesfirecat

Maybe he objects to the idea in the sense that that there are some ideas too horrific to be taken up/ argued for even if you purposely intend to give them up later on.

For example, single payer is a position you bring to the table to negotiate down from... forcing rape victims to undergo vaginal probing if they want an abortion... you shouldn't even joke about/bring that to the table even if you do it while arguing in bad faith.

I suggested that it was an extreme position to "be negotiated down from" thinking that the law was being considered... once I was informed that it had indeed passed I admitted my error & retracted my statement. A minor detail the GDF omitted for obvious reasons.

674 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:29:51pm

re: #637 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't know if it has religious significance in voodoo, but it's out of the same tradition, Yoruba beliefs syncretized to Csatholicism in the New World.

Isn't a zombie a curious monster? No great feats of strength. No fangs. No dissolving in the mist or transforming into an animal.

If you think about it, it's nothing more than a thick yet exceedingly persistent individual who single-mindedly wants to kill people. That's it. Ok, also very bad looks.

If we never heard of a zombie, who would predict the success of the concept?

675 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:30:33pm

Does anyone other than moi watch Rescue Me??

Time is dragging..west coast still 30 min away.

676 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:30:45pm
677 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:30:55pm

re: #673 brookly red

I suggested that it was an extreme position to "be negotiated down from" thinking that the law was being considered... once I was informed that it had indeed passed I admitted my error & retracted my statement. A minor detail the GDF omitted for obvious reasons.

And once again, I think that one can make a case that is wrong of anyone to bring this position to the table even in bad faith to negotiate down from it.

678 Mich-again  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:31:19pm

re: #670 freetoken

Angels don't play that HAARP, eh?


They just want you to think its the HAARP machine doing it to conceal the top secret orbitting "laser" that collects energy in space and shoots invisible fireballs at the enemies of the New World Order.

679 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:32:02pm

re: #677 jamesfirecat

And once again, I think that one can make a case that is wrong of anyone to bring this position to the table even in bad faith to negotiate down from it.

Yeah, perfect situation to "negotiate down from"

says the men folk.

680 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:33:18pm

re: #673 brookly red

I suggested that it was an extreme position to "be negotiated down from" thinking that the law was being considered... once I was informed that it had indeed passed I admitted my error & retracted my statement. A minor detail the GDF omitted for obvious reasons.

read some of these posts...so little good faith, it's just clutter and trash...people dig friction more than anything and they use any and every post to promote themselves that they can....really sucks

681 jaunte  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:34:12pm

re: #674 Nimed

Isn't a zombie a curious monster? No great feats of strength. No fangs. No dissolving in the mist or transforming into an animal.

If you think about it, it's nothing more than a thick yet exceedingly persistent individual who single-mindedly wants to kill people. That's it. Ok, also very bad looks.

If we never heard of a zombie, who would predict the success of the concept?

For most of human history, that's likely a good description of someone not in your own tribe.

682 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:34:25pm

re: #677 jamesfirecat

And once again, I think that one can make a case that is wrong of anyone to bring this position to the table even in bad faith to negotiate down from it.

Well it was not I that brought it to the table, nor I that voted it into law... in fact it was not even in my state. So how far do wish to go?

683 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:34:34pm
684 DaddyLawBucks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:35:19pm

re: #680 albusteve

wait a moment. Didn't you and I just argue about deficits an hour ago? I don't remember either of us swearing at each other, although we obviously believe the other to be completely wrong.........

685 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:36:08pm

re: #682 brookly red

Well it was not I that brought it to the table, nor I that voted it into law... in fact it was not even in my state. So how far do wish to go?

When you, joe blow, defend it in your round about way, the people actually affected (women) are concerned.

686 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:36:37pm

re: #680 albusteve

read some of these posts...so little good faith, it's just clutter and trash...people dig friction more than anything and they use any and every post to promote themselves that they can...really sucks

I can't believe that a grown man had nothing better to do with his life than wait for a chance to snipe at me... I guess I must be close to something?

687 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:36:39pm

re: #682 brookly red

Well it was not I that brought it to the table, nor I that voted it into law... in fact it was not even in my state. So how far do wish to go?

My position is I think you are "wrong" to believe that it was a morally acceptable thing for anyone to bring to the table for any reason .

688 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:37:11pm

re: #674 Nimed

Isn't a zombie a curious monster? No great feats of strength. No fangs. No dissolving in the mist or transforming into an animal.

If you think about it, it's nothing more than a thick yet exceedingly persistent individual who single-mindedly wants to kill people. That's it. Ok, also very bad looks.

If we never heard of a zombie, who would predict the success of the concept?

I believe that in the original legend, the zombie is controlled by its creator, who can send it on errands. Sort of a golem made from a human body.

The movie version is a bit different. I think it's a total community crisis quality of the 'zombie invasion' that appeals.

My favorite zombie movie is "Shaun of the Dead". My favorite not-so-well-known zombie movie is "Chopper Chicks In Zombie Town", which features a lesbian biker gang and blind children as well as zombies--and the hilarious moment when the bikers are left to fight the zombies alone, because the townspeople knew 'em when they were alive, "and they were good folks".

689 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:37:59pm

re: #675 Stanley Sea

Does anyone other than moi watch Rescue Me??

Time is dragging..west coast still 30 min away.

I watched it for a couple of seasons, and then wandered away. I do think it's an amazing good show. And I recommend it to anyone who wants to better understand my Irish-American heritage.

690 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:38:07pm
691 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:39:23pm

re: #684 daddylawbucks

wait a moment. Didn't you and I just argue about deficits an hour ago? I don't remember either of us swearing at each other, although we obviously believe the other to be completely wrong...

yes, there is no need to go down in the gutter...people do it because they need the attention...a constant state of insecurity and the more bold they sound, the happier they are with themselves

692 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:39:24pm

re: #685 Stanley Sea

When you, joe blow, defend it in your round about way, the people actually affected (women) are concerned.

well at least I am not advocating Sharia...re: #687 jamesfirecat

My position is I think you are "wrong" to believe that it was a morally acceptable thing for anyone to bring to the table for any reason .

well look I could say the same thing about killing the unborn... do we need to go there?

693 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:40:26pm

re: #689 SanFranciscoZionist

I watched it for a couple of seasons, and then wandered away. I do think it's an amazing good show. And I recommend it to anyone who wants to better understand my Irish-American heritage.

I love it!! I went and saw Denis Leary and the Rescue Me comedy tour. Got our photos taken in firemen's jackets in front of the show logo.

Then....at the end of the show I rushed the stage and shook Mr. Leary's hand (before the security pulled me back)

694 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:41:02pm

re: #685 Stanley Sea

When you, joe blow, defend it in your round about way, the people actually affected (women) are concerned.

another concern troll...

695 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:41:16pm

re: #692 brookly red

well look I could say the same thing about killing the unborn... do we need to go there?

I'd go there.

I never get tired of debating abortion.

You want to do this?

I feel that its a morally justified act to deny anyone access to your organs for any reasons even if it would mean their death because they're the most sanctified and private of private property.

696 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:41:55pm

re: #686 brookly red

I can't believe that a grown man had nothing better to do with his life than wait for a chance to snipe at me... I guess I must be close to something?

I think he likes you...gen X are some weird fuckers

697 DaddyLawBucks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:42:49pm

re: #695 jamesfirecat

tell me again how abortion relates to my organs? (since Im not female)

698 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:43:24pm

re: #694 albusteve

another concern troll...

Yeah, women are concerned trolls in response to those who support (in their round about way) laws that infringe against our bodies.

Defend you must, but I don't think you actually agree with the original take.

699 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:44:12pm

re: #690 Gus 802

57 Chevrolet


[Video]

now that was really cool dude...I give it a 4 out of 5

700 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:44:50pm

re: #696 albusteve

I think he likes you...gen X are some weird fuckers

yeah but you know I really didn't want to still up this conversation so how about for the sake of peace in the valley I just drop it?

701 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:46:10pm

re: #699 albusteve

now that was really cool dude...I give it a 4 out of 5

He's a great steel player I discovered on Youtube. He's also from the UK too which is a hoot. Love the pedal steel sound.

702 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:47:06pm

re: #697 daddylawbucks

tell me again how abortion relates to my organs? (since Im not female)

Simple.

In the grand scheme of things... lets assume a fetus has the same rights as any living human being.

Now assume a living human being tried to do the same thing to you that a fetus did...

They tried to make use of your organs, feeding off your body to survive because their own couldn't support them.

We have to keep abortion legal, because if we don't then it establishes a president that your organs are not your own to choose with if it would mean saving someones life.

Its a cruel necessity but a necessity none the less... because if we establish that people can make use of other people's organs against their will... then it basically sets a president where bums can come to your door and demand that you give them one of your kidneys if you have two healthy ones and they would die without a transplant.

I'm being a bit hyperbolic, but look up the "Violinist Argument" and you can see how even if we recognize a fetus as a human being with all the same rights as a fully grown person, that doesn't make abortion murder and it doesn't justify outlawing it...

703 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:47:20pm

re: #698 Stanley Sea

Yeah, women are concerned trolls in response to those who support (in their round about way) laws that infringe against our bodies.

Defend you must, but I don't think you actually agree with the original take.

I'm not following, just observing all the phony bullshit going down...you certainly have a riff you persue

704 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:48:25pm
705 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:48:46pm

re: #701 Gus 802

He's a great steel player I discovered on Youtube. He's also from the UK too which is a hoot. Love the pedal steel sound.

a BRIT?
well I concede he's very stylish and I liked it
thanks for that

706 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:50:04pm

re: #703 albusteve

I'm not following, just observing all the phony bullshit going down...you certainly have a riff you persue

Deeep breath on my part.

You know, it's one thing not to take being insulted too personally or seriously. It's another to watch other people being mocked for being pissed off when it happens.

707 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:50:10pm

re: #703 albusteve

Peace Steve

708 Amory Blaine  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:50:40pm

Well Lucy, My Pet Goat, has some splainin to do!!!!!!

709 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:51:47pm

re: #704 Gus 802

Junior Brown "Highway Patrol"


[Video]

I've heard this guy but never seen him play...cool

710 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:52:12pm

re: #706 SanFranciscoZionist

Same ole crapola. I wish I was back in school, taking some psych class, where I could compile & analyze the behavior of LGF comments...

711 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:52:56pm

re: #693 Stanley Sea


Then...at the end of the show I rushed the stage and shook Mr. Leary's hand (before the security pulled me back)

/wow I didn't figure you for a stalker...

712 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:52:57pm

re: #710 Stanley Sea

Same ole crapola. I wish I was back in school, taking some psych class, where I could compile & analyze the behavior of LGF comments...

I think someone actually did some grad work on that...?

713 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:53:18pm

re: #706 SanFranciscoZionist

Deeep breath on my part.

You know, it's one thing not to take being insulted too personally or seriously. It's another to watch other people being mocked for being pissed off when it happens.

phony...nobody is pissed off, just an excuse to attack

714 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:54:16pm

re: #710 Stanley Sea

Same ole crapola. I wish I was back in school, taking some psych class, where I could compile & analyze the behavior of LGF comments...

I do to

715 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:54:37pm

re: #711 brookly red

Then...at the end of the show I rushed the stage and shook Mr. Leary's hand (before the security pulled me back)

/wow I didn't figure you for a stalker...

ha! you are too much (let's not get personal!!)

Don't you worry though, I'll only respond to the bullshit you post here, on LGF.

716 DaddyLawBucks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:54:38pm

re: #702 jamesfirecat

1. In the grand scheme of things... lets assume a fetus has the same rights as any living human being. It doesn't. That's why abortion is not murder, a fetus is not a person, at least not during the period when it may be aborted.

2. I think the better argument is that every woman should be able to make her own choice, as opposed to some bureaucrat in DC making it for her.

3. This is at the essence a question of religious belief, and keeping the Guvmt out of religion means each woman must be allowed to make her own choice.

717 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:54:53pm

re: #713 albusteve

phony...nobody is pissed off, just an excuse to attack

An excuse to attack who? Poor ol' Spare, who took losing an argument poorly?

718 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:55:25pm

re: #712 SanFranciscoZionist

I want to read it.

I really would get into the study, that's for sure.

719 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:56:38pm

re: #716 daddylawbucks

1. In the grand scheme of things... lets assume a fetus has the same rights as any living human being. It doesn't. That's why abortion is not murder, a fetus is not a person, at least not during the period when it may be aborted.

2. I think the better argument is that every woman should be able to make her own choice, as opposed to some bureaucrat in DC making it for her.

3. This is at the essence a question of religious belief, and keeping the Guvmt out of religion means each woman must be allowed to make her own choice.

Maybe so, but I choose to argue this way because I think its more convincing on the whole, because it gives most of the people with a moral objection to Abortion what they "want" recognition of the Fetus as a human being, and then goes onto prove why they're still "wrong" for wanting to outlaw abortion.

It makes it purely a matter of logic and reason rather than one with some nebulous grey area of "at what point do we give the Fetus some human rights' and so and so forth...

720 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:56:49pm

re: #715 Stanley Sea

ha! you are too much (let's not get personal!!)

Don't you worry though, I'll only respond to the bullshit you post here, on LGF.

what? I never had security pull me off of anyone... and if I did I sure wouldn't brag about in... stalker.

721 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:56:52pm

re: #707 Stanley Sea

Did you watch Steve???

722 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:57:24pm

re: #720 brookly red

what? I never had security pull me off of anyone... and if I did I sure wouldn't brag about in... stalker.

Enjoy your mind photo of me!!!

723 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:58:51pm

re: #722 Stanley Sea

Enjoy your mind photo of me!!!

wow and you took psych... dear lord.

724 Nimed  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:58:53pm

re: #688 SanFranciscoZionist

I believe that in the original legend, the zombie is controlled by its creator, who can send it on errands. Sort of a golem made from a human body.

Great analogy. A sorcerer would just grab a body and do his thing and presto, undead servant. But let's face it, the original zombies are relatively boring.

The movie version is a bit different. I think it's a total community crisis quality of the 'zombie invasion' that appeals.

Yeah, the state of emergency is an essential ingredient (one of the hilarious things in "Shaun" is how long the protagonist takes to be aware of the state of emergency).

The infectious nature of the zombie "plague" is also a near indispensable element IMO, and a source of many of the genre tropes -- the horror of seeing your family or friends (or just pleasant strangers) savagely attack you, the tension that comes from someone in the group that has been bitten but hasn't turned already.

My favorite zombie movie is "Shaun of the Dead". My favorite not-so-well-known zombie movie is "Chopper Chicks In Zombie Town", which features a lesbian biker gang and blind children as well as zombies--and the hilarious moment when the bikers are left to fight the zombies alone, because the townspeople knew 'em when they were alive, "and they were good folks".

:D I'll have to see "Chopper Chicks...".

725 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 9:59:03pm
726 DaddyLawBucks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 10:01:55pm

re: #719 jamesfirecat

anti abortion people (IMHO) are power hungry, since for the most part they presonally are not going to be impacted by making abortion illegal, they seek to exert their power over women in general. I see it as similar to asking them to wear a Berqua.

727 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 10:02:17pm

re: #725 Gus 802

Jimi Hendrix - Power of Soul


[Video]

now you're on my turf...
long time ago and I've evolved, but Hendrix cut a swath that cannot be ignored...there is definitely something there eh?

728 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 10:03:00pm

Hm. I just had a realization that I'm sure Charles must have already had. When he deleted comments before they disappeared into the ether unless someone caught a screenshot. The email system does undermine that. Ah well. Time for me to get some Zzzs. Later, lizards.

729 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 10:03:14pm

re: #726 daddylawbucks

anti abortion people (IMHO) are power hungry, since for the most part they presonally are not going to be impacted by making abortion illegal, they seek to exert their power over women in general. I see it as similar to asking them to wear a Berqua.

No disagreement there, its just when you strip away the fact that they're concerned about innocent life (as my argument does) it makes what is going on all the more clear....

730 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 10:03:44pm

re: #727 albusteve

now you're on my turf...
long time ago and I've evolved, but Hendrix cut a swath that cannot be ignored...there is definitely something there eh?

Never duplicated. God I love Hendrix. Such a body of work in such a short time. But, that is life.

731 brookly red  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 10:05:24pm

well I gotta rest up now, so many mellows to harsh in the morrow... and they cling so hard.

later

732 DaddyLawBucks  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 10:05:40pm

re: #729 jamesfirecat

I see your point. The only Innocent Life those people are concerned about are the lives they can shove their rules onto. Its strange that the "conservatives" who want to keep the gvtment out of our lives love this issue so much.

733 albusteve  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 10:10:13pm

re: #730 Gus 802

Never duplicated. God I love Hendrix. Such a body of work in such a short time. But, that is life.

we'll do more Jimi sometime...
I'm out but thanks for the send off

734 Gus  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 10:11:21pm
735 BongCrodny  Tue, Aug 10, 2010 10:14:29pm

re: #645 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, I may be getting Perot mixed up with Dana Carvey's spoof of same. :-)

However, in response to Steve's earlier post, the unemployment rate for the years 1988 through 1990 was about 5.5% -- but it went up to 6.8% in 1991 and 7.5% in 1992.

I confess to burning through way too many brain cells during my extended childhood, but I just don't see a 2% spike in the unemployment rate in two years as an indication that the "economy [was] chugging along just fine."


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