Jon Stewart on the ‘Mega Mosque’ Morons (Again)
Hey! Jon Stewart stole my joke.
Hey! Jon Stewart stole my joke.
1 | windsagio Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:24:11am |
Whenever someone calls Islam a 'way or life or a cult' I want to punch my self in the nuts.
WTF guys?!
3 | Radicchio ad Absurdum Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:25:46am |
re: #1 windsagio
Whenever someone calls Islam a 'way or life or a cult' I want to punch my self in the nuts.
Maybe its just me, but that seems to be somewhat of a self-defeating manner of protest.
4 | windsagio Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:26:30am |
re: #3 Radicchio ad Absurdum
Its like how a broken arm makes a headache go away >>
Just takes a lot of pain to numb out from the sheer bigotry.
5 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:29:39am |
re: #4 windsagio
Its like how a broken arm makes a headache go away >>
Just takes a lot of pain to numb out from the sheer bigotry.
This is the principle behind the facedesk. Productive? Not hardly. But it helps give the body another source of pain to relieve the burning of Teh Stupid (tm).
6 | pharmmajor Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:30:05am |
re: #1 windsagio
Whenever someone calls Islam a 'way or life or a cult' I want to punch my self in the nuts.
WTF guys?!
Why? Wouldn't it make more sense to punch the whackjobs in the nuts?
7 | windsagio Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:30:53am |
re: #6 pharmmajor
My arms don't seem to fit in the coax cable >>
8 | Radicchio ad Absurdum Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:31:18am |
9 | Political Atheist Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:31:38am |
What will it take to change this attitude? 1. Build the cultural center. 2. Catch Osama. 3. Perp walk him past the cultural center. 4. Due Process, then The Needle. 5. Celebrate at the cultural center.
10 | windsagio Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:31:47am |
re: #8 Radicchio ad Absurdum
That would distract from the anguish too! I think we have a plan!
Anybody want a few buckets of blood?
11 | albusteve Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:34:44am |
re: #4 windsagio
Its like how a broken arm makes a headache go away >>
Just takes a lot of pain to numb out from the sheer bigotry.
current events must drive you nearly insane...that's some serious bravado
13 | Political Atheist Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:36:04am |
re: #1 windsagio
Whenever someone calls Islam a 'way or life or a cult' I want to punch my self in the nuts.
WTF guys?!
Try getting a decent punching bag. All those bruises in all the wrong places would just be too difficult to explain.
14 | albusteve Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:36:36am |
Mike catches holy hell in poll
Mayor Bloomberg's popularity rating has dropped to its lowest level in five years, in part because of his ardent defense of a proposed mosque several blocks from Ground Zero, according to a poll released yesterday.
New Yorkers' approval of their third-term mayor (pictured) dipped to 49 percent, down from 56 percent in April, as 53 percent of those surveyed said they disagree with his position on the mosque, according to the Marist survey.
"The mosque is not doing him any good . . . He's certainly on the wrong side of public opinion on that in the city," said pollster Lee Miringoff, director of Marist College's Institute for Public Opinion.
Read more: [Link: www.nypost.com...]
15 | Charles Johnson Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:37:46am |
re: #14 albusteve
Mike catches holy hell in poll
Mayor Bloomberg's popularity rating has dropped to its lowest level in five years, in part because of his ardent defense of a proposed mosque several blocks from Ground Zero, according to a poll released yesterday.
New Yorkers' approval of their third-term mayor (pictured) dipped to 49 percent, down from 56 percent in April, as 53 percent of those surveyed said they disagree with his position on the mosque, according to the Marist survey.
"The mosque is not doing him any good . . . He's certainly on the wrong side of public opinion on that in the city," said pollster Lee Miringoff, director of Marist College's Institute for Public Opinion.
Read more: [Link: www.nypost.com...]
The New York Post is distorting the results of that poll. I'm going to post something about it soon.
The fact is that a majority of Manhattanites SUPPORT the Cordoba House.
16 | Varek Raith Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:38:44am |
re: #15 Charles
The New York Post is distorting the results of that poll. I'm going to post something about it soon.
The fact is that a majority of Manhattanites SUPPORT the Cordoba House.
I'm flabbergasted!
No!
Shocked!
No!...
...
17 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:39:26am |
re: #15 Charles
The New York Post is distorting the results of that poll. I'm going to post something about it soon.
GASP! Shock! Outrage!!!11one
18 | Firstinla Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:41:08am |
I think the issue should be put to vote, giving the voters the option of either Park51 or a nuclear power plant.
19 | albusteve Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:41:18am |
re: #15 Charles
The New York Post is distorting the results of that poll. I'm going to post something about it soon.
The fact is that a majority of Manhattanites SUPPORT the Cordoba House.
I'd like to see it...as far as I know Bloomberg has been a very popular mayor...something is fishy, and no doubt there is a clash of agendas in there
21 | albusteve Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:42:22am |
re: #18 Firstinla
I think the issue should be put to vote, giving the voters the option of either Park51 or a nuclear power plant.
no, that cannot happen...it would be meaningless and just cause more trouble
22 | Varek Raith Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:43:07am |
re: #18 Firstinla
I think the issue should be put to vote, giving the voters the option of either Park51 or a nuclear power plant.
It's not up to the voters to decide what is built on that privately owned property.
They met all reqs for the center.
26 | Varek Raith Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:44:20am |
27 | jamesfirecat Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:45:00am |
"Hey! Jon Stewart stole my joke."
Great minds think alike in my opinion.
28 | lawhawk Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:45:12am |
re: #15 Charles
Here's the Marist poll press release.
Here's the Marist poll table, and it indeed shows that 53% of Manhattan residents support the construction of the Cordoba Initiative near Ground Zero. The other boroughs oppose its construction by hefty margins (53% and above). That's the only metric in the poll that finds support. When broken down by every other characteristic, there is little to no support (age, race, income level, education or religion). Note too that religion doesn't include those self-identifying as Muslim so there's no gauge as to how fellow Muslims feel about the proposal. The only other identifying metric that comes closest to support is that 49% of liberals polled support the endeavor, whereas 38% are opposed and 12% are unsure.
29 | jamesfirecat Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:47:27am |
re: #18 Firstinla
I think the issue should be put to vote, giving the voters the option of either Park51 or a nuclear power plant.
Yeah, who needs a zoning commission or the right to build a place of worship upon your privately owned land!
30 | albusteve Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:48:00am |
re: #28 lawhawk
Here's the Marist poll press release.
Here's the Marist poll table, and it indeed shows that 53% of Manhattan residents support the construction of the Cordoba Initiative near Ground Zero. The other boroughs oppose its construction by hefty margins (53% and above). That's the only metric in the poll that finds support. When broken down by every other characteristic, there is little to no support (age, race, income level, education or religion). Note too that religion doesn't include those self-identifying as Muslim so there's no gauge as to how fellow Muslims feel about the proposal. The only other identifying metric that comes closest to support is that 49% of liberals polled support the endeavor, whereas 38% are opposed and 12% are unsure.
53%...so just over half those polled are fair minded, you would hope the number would be higher
31 | lawhawk Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:48:13am |
re: #28 lawhawk
What is missing from the poll data to understand its accuracy/relevance is how many people were polled in each of the 5 boroughs to see whether there was a disproportionate number from outlying boroughs or whether there was a significant number of Manhattanites polled.
32 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:48:59am |
re: #22 Varek Raith
It's not up to the voters to decide what is built on that privately owned property.
They met all reqs for the center.
Doesn't Con-Ed own half of the property? I thought I read that somewhere. Also Gov. Paterson offered them a different site to build it to ease the controversy I think.
33 | albusteve Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:49:01am |
re: #27 jamesfirecat
"Hey! Jon Stewart stole my joke."
Great minds think alike in my opinion.
I guarantee you Steward reads LGF
34 | lawhawk Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:50:52am |
re: #32 NJDhockeyfan
Both are true. Paterson offered up a solution that no one asked for. Con Ed owns one of the two parcels on which the CI would build, but the company doesn't have any right to refuse the demolition and construction of the community center.
35 | webevintage Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:52:05am |
I see The Disgraced Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich is very, very worried about what the Saudis do.
WTF?
Yesterday on the PBS Newshour some woman was upset about the Park51 thing because she considered ground zero her mother's grave and did not want a "mosque" so close to her mother's grave.
But a titty bar is OK?
I just do not get the logic of these folks.
36 | webevintage Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:52:45am |
37 | Four More Tears Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:53:13am |
re: #35 webevintage
I see The Disgraced Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich is very, very worried about what the Saudis do.
WTF?Yesterday on the PBS Newshour some woman was upset about the Park51 thing because she considered ground zero her mother's grave and did not want a "mosque" so close to her mother's grave.
But a titty bar is OK?
I just do not get the logic of these folks.
I don't want a titty bar close to my grave, I want one on my grave.
38 | albusteve Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:53:16am |
re: #31 lawhawk
What is missing from the poll data to understand its accuracy/relevance is how many people were polled in each of the 5 boroughs to see whether there was a disproportionate number from outlying boroughs or whether there was a significant number of Manhattanites polled.
NBC is pushing the Marist poll too...
and then there is this,
[Link: stopthe911mosque.com...]
the dogs are loose
39 | Varek Raith Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:53:26am |
re: #35 webevintage
I see The Disgraced Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich is very, very worried about what the Saudis do.
WTF?Yesterday on the PBS Newshour some woman was upset about the Park51 thing because she considered ground zero her mother's grave and did not want a "mosque" so close to her mother's grave.
But a titty bar is OK?
I just do not get the logic of these folks.
It's real simple.
They.
Are.
Muslim.
If this were a Church center being built, do you think they'd be opposed to it?
40 | webevintage Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:55:09am |
Charles...the comment response thing in your mailbox is awesome.
41 | Four More Tears Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:55:33am |
re: #39 Varek Raith
I just want to say that your avatar can shiver me timber any time she wants.
42 | HappyWarrior Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:55:42am |
The bit with Wyatt Cenac was classic. Having him conclude the story near a mosque. Gingrich's answer was puzzling to say the least. His logic seemed because the Saudis disrespect religious freedom we should do the same to Muslims here. And all the other protests of mosques around the country. Haven't people forgotten a little thing called religious freedom which is why so many of our forefathers came here in teh first place.
43 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:55:56am |
re: #39 Varek Raith
It's real simple.
They.
Are.
Muslim.
If this were a Church center being built, do you think they'd be opposed to it?
If religious folks from that church attacked us and killed 3 thousand people I bet there would be opposition to it.
44 | Varek Raith Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:56:54am |
re: #43 NJDhockeyfan
If religious folks from that church attacked us and killed 3 thousand people I bet there would be opposition to it.
So, Muslims from this nonexistent Mosque attacked us?
Neat.
45 | Four More Tears Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:57:01am |
re: #43 NJDhockeyfan
If religious folks from that church attacked us and killed 3 thousand people I bet there would be opposition to it.
Soo... what people who are part of the Cordoba House had anything to do with 9/11?
46 | ShaunP Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:57:02am |
re: #43 NJDhockeyfan
If religious folks from that church attacked us and killed 3 thousand people I bet there would be opposition to it.
They're not from the same church. It's like blaming Catholics for something Episcopalians do...
47 | lawhawk Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:58:23am |
re: #46 ShaunP
Image is everything. Opponents to this project have portrayed an image, and it's sticking in the craw of many people, regardless of the fact that the image is quite twisted and distorted by the opponents to render the CI effort in the most sinister light.
48 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:58:24am |
49 | Varek Raith Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:58:25am |
re: #46 ShaunP
They're not from the same church. It's like blaming Catholics for something Episcopalians do...
Hell, let's just blame all Churches for the Priest abuse scandal.
9_9
50 | Four More Tears Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:58:37am |
re: #46 ShaunP
They're not from the same church. It's like blaming Catholics for something Episcopalians do...
Yeah, Jonestown is such a black mark on all Christianity...
51 | albusteve Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:58:52am |
re: #45 JasonA
Soo... what people who are part of the Cordoba House had anything to do with 9/11?
who knows?, that's not the point....we are not a society of emotion and speculation...that would be chaos
52 | Four More Tears Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:59:17am |
re: #48 NJDhockeyfan
Did I say that?
Okay. I must be stupid, because if you're not saying that then I haven't a clue what the point of that previous comment was.
53 | KingKenrod Wed, Aug 11, 2010 9:59:36am |
re: #30 albusteve
53%...so just over half those polled are fair minded, you would hope the number would be higher
And where 86% voted for Obama.
54 | Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Aug 11, 2010 10:01:33am |
re: #37 JasonA
I don't want a titty bar close to my grave, I want one on my grave.
I want my grave on one...
55 | albusteve Wed, Aug 11, 2010 10:01:41am |
re: #47 lawhawk
Image is everything. Opponents to this project have portrayed an image, and it's sticking in the craw of many people, regardless of the fact that the image is quite twisted and distorted by the opponents to render the CI effort in the most sinister light.
a sign of the times....image has hit the afterburners
the truth is dead in politics as far as trump goes
56 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Aug 11, 2010 10:02:12am |
57 | Four More Tears Wed, Aug 11, 2010 10:02:16am |
58 | Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Aug 11, 2010 10:03:57am |
If you wee the War on Terror as the "Clash of Cultures" between the "enlightened" West and "barbaric" ISlam, it is easy to see this cultural center as gloating over a "victory".
If you see the WOT as a clash between humanity and fundamentalism, then forbidding the Cultural Center would be a triumph for fundamentalists.
59 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 11, 2010 10:08:51am |
re: #56 thedopefishlives
If that's NOT what you're saying, we could use an explanation as to what you ARE saying.
Say we were attacked by Catholic terrorists, they daily kill people around the world in the name of their religion, are arrested for planning terror attacks here and other countries, and they continue to threaten attacks, I wouldn't support a Catholic church near Ground Zero....would you?
60 | Samita Wed, Aug 11, 2010 10:09:34am |
I love Stuart (Jewish) defending the rights of Muslims to build mosques!
61 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Aug 11, 2010 10:10:51am |
re: #59 NJDhockeyfan
Say we were attacked by Catholic terrorists, they daily kill people around the world in the name of their religion, are arrested for planning terror attacks here and other countries, and they continue to threaten attacks, I wouldn't support a Catholic church near Ground Zero...would you?
Yes, as a matter of fact, I would. Unless it could be proven that the guys building the church supported, materially or otherwise, the terrorists. Lumping all Muslims into "those guys that blew up the Twin Towers" is disingenuous at best.
62 | garhighway Wed, Aug 11, 2010 10:11:22am |
re: #43 NJDhockeyfan
If religious folks from that church attacked us and killed 3 thousand people I bet there would be opposition to it.
Hey! Can anyone play this game? Here's my entry:
If people from that mosque built a time machine, came back to this time from the future and commenced to pillage Manhattan I would be pissed.
63 | Wozza Matter? Wed, Aug 11, 2010 10:14:27am |
re: #59 NJDhockeyfan
Say we were attacked by Catholic terrorists, they daily kill people around the world in the name of their religion, are arrested for planning terror attacks here and other countries, and they continue to threaten attacks, I wouldn't support a Catholic church near Ground Zero...would you?
but then you are making the argument that Islam is non-denominational?
There are atl east three strands of Islam, the same as there is in Christianity.
64 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Aug 11, 2010 10:14:31am |
re: #61 thedopefishlives
Not to mention that it's a bit of a disconnect to compare the Catholic Church, which is a single unified organization with definite structure, with "all Muslims". A more apt comparison would be to say, for example, some radical fundamentalist Christian sect blew up a mall and killed thousands of people, and now the Methodist organization wants to build a church in the downtown area a few blocks away.
65 | Samita Wed, Aug 11, 2010 10:16:51am |
do this...
google maps for "church new york city" - basically uncountable ~1000 on the island alone
then "mosque new your city" = 8
Then check the distribution of them... there is a definite argument for the need of a Mosque just about in the location they want to build this one.
66 | HappyWarrior Wed, Aug 11, 2010 10:20:14am |
What bothers me is that we send a crappy message to American Muslims by acting like this. We as a country pride ourselves on our freedom of religion yet there seems to be a vocal group of people who feel that oh freedom of religion is fine........but only if you're Christian.
67 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Aug 11, 2010 10:22:46am |
re: #66 HappyWarrior
There are some Christian groups that believe the "freedom of religion" clause was established specifically and exclusively for Christianity, and that "everyone else" can just shove off because they have no Constitutionally protected freedom.
The sheer egotism and bigotry of that is just staggering.
68 | Stanghazi Wed, Aug 11, 2010 10:23:02am |
re: #66 HappyWarrior
What bothers me is that we send a crappy message to American Muslims by acting like this. We as a country pride ourselves on our freedom of religion yet there seems to be a vocal group of people who feel that oh freedom of religion is fine...but only if you're Christian.
A crappy message? Actually more like a threat.
69 | brownbagj Wed, Aug 11, 2010 10:23:31am |
re: #1 windsagio
Whenever someone calls Islam a 'way or life or a cult' I want to punch my self in the nuts.
WTF guys?!
Before you read the next sentence, please position a video recorder to put you in full frontal view....
Islam a 'way or life or a cult, Islam a 'way or life or a cult, Islam a 'way or life or a cult, Islam a 'way or life or a cult.
Now, box it up and send it to AFV. We can split the 10Gs.
70 | HappyWarrior Wed, Aug 11, 2010 10:24:34am |
re: #68 Stanley Sea
A crappy message? Actually more like a threat.
Yeah much better word. Seriously it is disturbing when you hear an elected official like that Lt Governor of Tennessee talk like that. One thing if it's some internet jackass but quite another if it's a guy with that kinda power.
71 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Aug 11, 2010 10:27:03am |
re: #15 Charles
The New York Post is distorting the results of that poll. I'm going to post something about it soon.
The fact is that a majority of Manhattanites SUPPORT the Cordoba House.
53%
[Link: maristpoll.marist.edu...]
73 | blueraven Wed, Aug 11, 2010 10:47:27am |
re: #28 lawhawk
Here's the Marist poll press release.
Here's the Marist poll table, and it indeed shows that 53% of Manhattan residents support the construction of the Cordoba Initiative near Ground Zero. The other boroughs oppose its construction by hefty margins (53% and above). That's the only metric in the poll that finds support. When broken down by every other characteristic, there is little to no support (age, race, income level, education or religion). Note too that religion doesn't include those self-identifying as Muslim so there's no gauge as to how fellow Muslims feel about the proposal. The only other identifying metric that comes closest to support is that 49% of liberals polled support the endeavor, whereas 38% are opposed and 12% are unsure.
That poll shows no breakdown of voter party. How many democrats, republicans, conservatives, liberals etc...
The only breakdown shown is this
This survey of 809 New York City residents was conducted July 28th through August 5th, 2010. Residents 18 years of age and older were interviewed by telephone. Telephone numbers were selected based upon a list of telephone exchanges from throughout the city. The exchanges were selected to ensure that each borough was represented in proportion to its population. Interviews were conducted in both English and Spanish. Results are statistically significant at ±3.5%. There are 696 Registered Voters. The results for this subset are statistically significant at ±4.0. The error margin increases for cross-tabulations.
The self identification of those polled hold a significant effect on the results, and should be included in any reliable poll. Maybe I missed that info?
74 | Eclectic Infidel Wed, Aug 11, 2010 11:00:22am |
re: #18 Firstinla
I think the issue should be put to vote, giving the voters the option of either Park51 or a nuclear power plant.
Wow. You really support voting on religious liberties? You do know that half the lot is owned by the developers and the other half by Con Ed, right?
75 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 11, 2010 11:31:46am |
re: #1 windsagio
Whenever someone calls Islam a 'way or life or a cult' I want to punch my self in the nuts.
WTF guys?!
Windy, when they say "do you want to harm yourself or others?" the answer is always 'others'.
76 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 11, 2010 11:32:39am |
re: #2 RogueOne
I loved the Woody Allen's building suggestion. Priceless.
Why? You really want to see a movie about a neurotic old Jewish guy who has a mosque move in next door? You already know that it ends with him getting the gorgeous Pakistani girl.
77 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 11, 2010 11:39:08am |
re: #59 NJDhockeyfan
Say we were attacked by Catholic terrorists, they daily kill people around the world in the name of their religion, are arrested for planning terror attacks here and other countries, and they continue to threaten attacks, I wouldn't support a Catholic church near Ground Zero...would you?
Catholicism has a central hierarchy.
Islam does not.
That wouldn't necessarily color my perception, but it's an important thing to understand.
78 | boredtechindenver Wed, Aug 11, 2010 3:33:05pm |
re: #69 brownbagj
Before you read the next sentence, please position a video recorder to put you in full frontal view...
Islam a 'way or life or a cult, Islam a 'way or life or a cult, Islam a 'way or life or a cult, Islam a 'way or life or a cult.
Now, box it up and send it to AFV. We can split the 10Gs.
Sorry windy. i had to upding and giggle.