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1 Nick Schroeder  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:09:30pm

Love the whole bit at the end about 'the guy with the racist sign was a left-wing plant'.

This has to be a funny situation for RAND PAUL. If he tried to sue the anonymous accuser libel or something, he kind of implicates himself in the kidnapping event in that he's able to identify someone who supposedly 'made it all up anonymously'.

This guy is a hug liability for the GOP.

2 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:10:05pm

"We really don't want to go into this" ...yeah, Rand, we do.

I like how the station got his fidgeting and evasion in the story. Even if he didn't do half of what he was accused of in that GQ story, he's sure worried about something.

3 Nick Schroeder  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:10:29pm

I've also forgotten how to spell tonight.

4 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:11:11pm

Since when does answering a reporter's questions (after answering the same questions in the national telecast) constitute a "dodge"? Because they were walking, with a shake camera in tow? Or, because this is LGF?

5 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:11:16pm

re: #1 Nick Schroeder

Love the whole bit at the end about 'the guy with the racist sign was a left-wing plant'.

This has to be a funny situation for RAND PAUL. If he tried to sue the anonymous accuser libel or something, he kind of implicates himself in the kidnapping event in that he's able to identify someone who supposedly 'made it all up anonymously'.

This guy is a huge liability for the GOP.

Him and his father both...

6 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:12:04pm

Was he wearing pants for this interview?

7 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:13:31pm

re: #4 Kung Fu Grip

Since when does answering a reporter's questions (after answering the same questions in the national telecast) constitute a "dodge"? Because they were walking, with a shake camera in tow? Or, because this is LGF?

??

8 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:14:07pm

Please. Really?

9 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:14:29pm

The guy with the racist sign is Aqua Buddha. Mystery solved.

10 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:15:56pm

Let's do this.....

11 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:17:40pm

Ah, the previous comment feature.

Dissing Shirley Sherrod. Not a friend in my book.

12 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:18:03pm
13 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:18:15pm

Sorry to venture outside the LGF echo chamber. Shame on me.

14 Nick Schroeder  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:18:23pm

re: #4 Kung Fu Grip

Since when does answering a reporter's questions (after answering the same questions in the national telecast) constitute a "dodge"? Because they were walking, with a shake camera in tow? Or, because this is LGF?

Eh, it is a dodge. Though it's not completely unjustified because repeatedly answering the same questions is annoying, you'd expect a public figure to be much better at dealing with the same questions over and over again. That's pretty much what a public figure does, these days. So if RAND PAUL is the kind of guy that gets frustrated by answering the same questions two times in a row, I think that might only add to his liability factor.

His attitude kind of smacks of something like "To hell with this, I got my talking points out on cable news... screw everyone else, I'll be in my bunker until this blows over."

15 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:19:03pm

re: #13 Kung Fu Grip

Sorry to venture outside the LGF echo chamber. Shame on me.

Sorry. I must have missed it. Did you say something?

16 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:19:35pm

re: #15 Gus 802

awesome

17 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:21:36pm

re: #13 Kung Fu Grip

Srry t vntr tsd th LGF ch chmbr. Shm n m.

The troll says what?

18 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:22:06pm

re: #17 Dark_Falcon

Elevated discourse, here we come!

19 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:22:30pm

You've been a member for over 2 years and you finally decide to post something. Just remember your password?

Kung Fu Grip

Registered since: Feb 21, 2008 at 6:25 pm
No. of comments posted: 6
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20 Nimed  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:22:37pm

Meh. I'm sort of feeling sorry for luaP dnaR on this. The whole story sounds bullshitty, frankly.

21 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:22:41pm

re: #4 Kung Fu Grip

Since when does answering a reporter's questions (after answering the same questions in the national telecast) constitute a "dodge"? Because they were walking, with a shake camera in tow? Or, because this is LGF?

When he had to put the qualifier "I don't remember all of what I did in college 27 years ago" on his comments specifically denying the kidnapping and forcing the woman to take drugs, it was weasely at best. To be honest, I think he's done something else way back when that could sink him if anyone caught wind of it, judging by his body language and how he worded things.

By the way, Mr. Six-Posts-in-2.5-years, I find it funny that most of your posts are in this thread...

/whose sock is it?

22 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:22:44pm

re: #17 Dark_Falcon

The troll says what?

Early one too. Must have been waiting in the wings.

23 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:23:05pm

re: #18 Kung Fu Grip

Say good night Troll

"Good Night, Troll!"

24 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:23:13pm

Sorry, newborns have that kind of effect.

25 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:23:27pm

Night, all.

26 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:23:44pm

re: #24 Kung Fu Grip

Sorry, newborns have that kind of effect.

What? Just flounce and be done with it.

27 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:23:45pm

Buh bye!

28 deranged cat  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:24:28pm

when trolls attack! (strategy #1: strike early)

anyways, Rand Paul REALLY drawls. like realllyyyy dddddrrraaaawwwwlllllsss...

29 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:24:41pm

re: #27 Kung Fu Grip

Buh bye!

and..............bye

30 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:25:33pm

re: #27 Kung Fu Grip

Buh bye!

Don't masturbate too hard tonight. You might go blind.

31 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:25:42pm

re: #18 Kung Fu Grip

lvtd dscrs, hr w cm!

And here come the insults, right on cue.

32 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:26:44pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

You were referring to #30, of course. Or, not.... This is LGF, afterall.

33 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:27:10pm

re: #30 Gus 802

Don't masturbate too hard tonight. You might go blind.

We know how the kung fu grip is getting used....

34 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:27:22pm

Ah. Buck likes Kung Fu Grip. Figures.

35 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:27:49pm

re: #33 tnguitarist

Wow. Masterpiece Theatre time.

36 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:27:50pm

Masochism.

37 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:27:52pm

re: #32 Kung Fu Grip

Y wr rfrrng t #30, f crs. r, nt... Ths s LGF, ftrll.

Don't you have a bridge you should be lurking under?

38 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:28:00pm

re: #27 Kung Fu Grip

What a sad little flounce. That's almost good enough to be a GOP congressional candidate in a blue state.

39 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:28:55pm

Buck, don't waste updings on this wretched piece of flounce-bait. He's not worth it.

40 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:29:11pm

re: #37 Dark_Falcon

Why yes -- a bridge, somewhere outside an echo chamber.

41 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:29:20pm

re: #35 Kung Fu Grip

Wow. Masterpiece Theatre time.

Is that your witty retort? Where is you elevated discourse. Bring it.

42 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:29:58pm

re: #40 Kung Fu Grip

Why yes -- a bridge, somewhere outside an echo chamber.

911 was an inside job man! Like wow. Blowback dude.

43 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:30:01pm

re: #41 tnguitarist

I believe it's in the thread. Read a little.

44 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:30:19pm

re: #38 wlewisiii

What a sad little flounce. That's almost good enough to be a GOP congressional candidate in a blue state.

Not in my district, friend. My GOP candidate is Joel Pollack and he's actually a sane and sensible person. Much more enjoyable to hear than this troll.

45 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:31:14pm

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

Keep the hits coming.

46 deranged cat  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:31:15pm

Troll Strategy #2: buzzwords, buzzwords, buzzwords!

47 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:31:40pm

re: #43 Kung Fu Grip

I believe it's in the thread. Read a little.

You burned me but good.....

48 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:32:08pm

Kung fu grip, how about we not dance around the clear evasiveness of saying "I'm not going to remember everything from college..."

If absolutely nothing happened like that he would just say absolutely nothing happened like that. He looks as guilty as sin, and it is clear that he has something in mind with perhaps a different take on events.

But I really really don't care about that nearly as much as his ambivalence to the Civil Rights Act. Would you care to comment on that?

49 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:32:41pm

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

Not in my district, friend. My GOP candidate is Joel Pollack and he's actually a sane and sensible person. Much more enjoyable to hear than this troll.

My apologies. I get too used to the sorry excuses we get up here in Wisconsin (home of the Republican party, but not one that would want them, alas) and project as a result.

50 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:33:03pm

re: #45 Kung Fu Grip

Keep the hits coming.

Kung fu ain't what it used to be.

51 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:33:13pm

re: #45 Kung Fu Grip

Keep the hits coming.

So. Have an opinion on the Civil Rights Act of 1964? Care to share your feelings?

52 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:33:20pm

By the way, I don't know for certain, but I think, and if I am incorrect, I apologize, that capin diggs is over at the stalkers.

53 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:34:03pm

re: #52 LudwigVanQuixote

By the way, I don't know for certain, but I think, and if I am incorrect, I apologize, that capin diggs is over at the stalkers.

This is a surprise?

54 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:34:20pm

re: #51 Gus 802

So. Have an opinion on the Civil Rights Act of 1964? Care to share your feelings?

We are thinking the same way. How the people of Kentucky could consider this loon for a moment seems to be some evidence that claims of inbreeding there are not exaggerated.

55 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:34:54pm

re: #53 wlewisiii

This is a surprise?

No not really, but I am not certain of it. So again, if I am incorrect, I apologize.

56 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:35:06pm

re: #48 LudwigVanQuixote

Thank you! Nice post. I'm not a Rand supporter (of either Rand), so I don't think I need to defend him. I merely commented that it's a stretch to call the interview a "dodge", and then a ton of bricks from the echo chamber follow.

57 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:35:15pm

re: #52 LudwigVanQuixote

By the way, I don't know for certain, but I think, and if I am incorrect, I apologize, that capin diggs is over at the stalkers.

I'll check. I know someone over there nicjacked sheepdogess for a while, so it might be that sort of lie again.

58 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:35:36pm

Well, Lizards, it's late.

I leave you with this - my idea of a Riverdance.

And in my considered opinion, Summer Glau is currently the sexiest grrrl in the 'verse. At the very least, she has the cutest little toes I've ever seen.

59 Nimed  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:36:39pm

re: #40 Kung Fu Grip

Why yes -- a bridge, somewhere outside an echo chamber.

*shudders with empathic embarrassment*
Well, that was a painful quip. Lameness, thy name is Kung Fu Grip.

60 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:36:53pm

re: #56 Kung Fu Grip

Thank you! Nice post. I'm not a Rand supporter (of either Rand), so I don't think I need to defend him. I merely commented that it's a stretch to call the interview a "dodge", and then a ton of bricks from the echo chamber follow.

That's not a dodge? Seriously? That's about as big a dodge as one can get. That douche bag Rand Paul practically ran away from the cameras. That's a dodge. Rand Paul is an asshat of the first order.

61 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:37:24pm

re: #56 Kung Fu Grip

Thank you! Nice post. I'm not a Rand supporter (of either Rand), so I don't think I need to defend him. I merely commented that it's a stretch to call the interview a "dodge", and then a ton of bricks from the echo chamber follow.

If you really think this place is an echo chamber, check the previous thread's discussion on taxes. Classic Liberal vs. Conservative action at its best.

Echo Chamber, phsaw!

62 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:37:30pm

re: #59 Nimed

In the court of the mighty echo chamber, I plead guilty.

63 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:38:10pm

re: #56 Kung Fu Grip

Thank you! Nice post. I'm not a Rand supporter (of either Rand), so I don't think I need to defend him. I merely commented that it's a stretch to call the interview a "dodge", and then a ton of bricks from the echo chamber follow.

Cowardice is as as cowards do. Rand knows this in his soul.

64 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:38:24pm

re: #62 Kung Fu Grip

In the court of the mighty echo chamber, I plead guilty.

Ah yes. Now we go into passive mode.

/Observing.

65 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:38:30pm

re: #60 Gus 802

I "ran" away after giving a national interview on the exact same topic.

66 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:39:12pm

re: #65 Kung Fu Grip

I "ran" away after giving a national interview on the exact same topic.

Was this before or after your IQ test? And did you score 167 points?

67 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:39:45pm

re: #66 Gus 802

168. Sorry for the typo.

68 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:39:50pm

re: #56 Kung Fu Grip

Rational, reasoned discourse is always in season here, but when you come out of the gate swinging, implying we'd never give Rand Paul a fair shake, you come off looking like a jackass that's spoiling for a fight...and you've been antagonizing the whole thread.

/echo chamber my ass...

69 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:40:22pm

re: #56 Kung Fu Grip

So if that is all you are "merely" here to say, then why the echo chamber stuff. If you want to have a debate about this, you could have written what you just wrote first.

Loaded language like you are using is indicative of a real echo chamber. Do say hello to the Rodent for me.

70 freetoken  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:40:33pm

re: #68 talon_262

All one has to do is look at previous posts by Mr. Kung to see where he coming from.

71 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:40:43pm

re: #65 Kung Fu Grip

I "ran" away after giving a national interview on the exact same topic.

You may be the worst troll who have visited LGF. Your comments are very boring and make no sense.

72 blueraven  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:41:08pm

re: #13 Kung Fu Grip

Sorry to venture outside the LGF echo chamber. Shame on me.

Right, there are never disagreements here at LGF./
Have you actually read through any of today's threads for example?
Troll.

73 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:41:09pm

re: #70 freetoken

And I coming from -- where exactly?

74 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:41:27pm

re: #1 Nick Schroeder

Love the whole bit at the end about 'the guy with the racist sign was a left-wing plant'.

This has to be a funny situation for RAND PAUL. If he tried to sue the anonymous accuser libel or something, he kind of implicates himself in the kidnapping event in that he's able to identify someone who supposedly 'made it all up anonymously'.

This guy is a hug liability for the GOP.

What does he hope to gain with this 'left-wing plant' business? Just say, the guy was holding a racist sign, that was not appreciated, and he hopes voters will understand that is not the message of his campaign, nor will it be tolerated. Full stop.

75 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:41:31pm

re: #70 freetoken

All one has to do is look at previous posts by Mr. Kung to see where he coming from.

I saw them...all 2 before this thread. And those were just as antagonistic...

76 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:42:36pm

re: #73 Kung Fu Grip

nd cmng frm -- whr xctly?

I'm guessing the Stalker Blog.

77 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:42:51pm

re: #72 blueraven

Odds are I've been reading this site years longer than most anyone here.

78 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:43:14pm

re: #6 Cato the Elder

Was he wearing pants for this interview?

required response:

79 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:43:18pm

re: #73 Kung Fu Grip

And I coming from -- where exactly?

Just admit to yourself that you're lame.

80 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:43:54pm

re: #77 Kung Fu Grip

Odds are I've been reading this site years longer than most anyone here.

Dumb.

81 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:44:03pm

hay guys, what's up in this thread

82 blueraven  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:44:13pm

re: #77 Kung Fu Grip

Odds are I've been reading this site years longer than most anyone here.

Then I guess you have major comprehension problems.

83 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:44:26pm

re: #79 Gus 802

This argument trumps everything. OK, you win.

84 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:44:27pm

re: #81 WindUpBird

I think... I dunno, its like the internet in slow motion.

85 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:44:33pm

re: #81 WindUpBird

hay guys, what's up in this thread

Kung Fu Grip has a one inch penis.

86 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:44:47pm

The special thing about echo chambers is that there are many to choose from.

Anyone who doesn't like this one has plenty of others to sample.

87 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:44:52pm

re: #84 windsagio

I think... I dunno, its like the internet in slow motion.

ahahahaha

Man, 1998 called, they want their AOL user back

88 austin_blue  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:45:20pm

re: #62 Kung Fu Grip

In the court of the mighty echo chamber, I plead guilty.

Ah, the echo chamber! Imagine if this was a Democratic candidate and what Faux, Rush, and the rest would be saying right now!

By the way, up until tonight, you had, what, thirteen posts in 2 1/2 years? Why the outrage on *this* particular subject?

89 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:45:25pm

re: #85 Gus 802

Hmmm.... Impressive if I'm not male.

90 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:45:39pm

re: #86 Cato the Elder

Does you and I slinging obscenities at each other count as an 'echo', if they're different obscenities?

91 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:45:56pm

re: #81 WindUpBird

hay guys, what's up in this thread

We've got a nice Spewer Troll for you to play with.

92 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:46:04pm

re: #89 Kung Fu Grip

Hmmm... Impressive if I'm not male.

God it really is 1998.

93 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:46:27pm

re: #88 austin_blue

Ah, the echo chamber! Imagine if this was a Democratic candidate and what Faux, Rush, and the rest would be saying right now!

By the way, up until tonight, you had, what, thirteen posts in 2 1/2 years? Why the outrage on *this* particular subject?

Could just be me, but I smelled the distinct smell of a rancid sock...

94 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:46:36pm

re: #20 Nimed

Meh. I'm sort of feeling sorry for luaP dnaR on this. The whole story sounds bullshitty, frankly.

The whole story sounds weird as hell.

95 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:46:43pm

re: #77 Kung Fu Grip

Odds are I've been reading this site years longer than most anyone here.

Yeah, the stalkers are like that.

Let's look at a great post of yours shall we. It is one of your two before tonight.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

And if Sherrod were white, and made the same sort of speech? Fired, with no apology, no retraction, and with no reputation left to repair. But, let's fall all over ourselves in praise of Ms. Sherrod's "redemption."

And, keep burying the Journolist story Charles. It's a nice juxtaposition -- Sherrod and the Journolist smears -- isn't it? Put the spotlight on one, and ignore the other.

Let's apply Charles Johnson logic to both. There are racist elements in the Tea Party -- therefore, the Tea Party is racist!! There are ostensibly objective journalists willing to conspire to slant the news for Obama. Therefore, all journalists slant the news for Obama!! Uh, er, um -- no. LGF logic in action.

Brilliant I say.

So please do me a favor when you get back to the stalker blog. Tell Rodent the following:

Making up history is a favorite pass time of the wingnuts. All truths are rewritable to their sense of immediate need and outrage. They rely on the public having no short term memory and no proper education. That way, they can re-write the books, in case anyone wants to look anything up.

Wingnuts now routinely claim that Muslims had nothing to do with Algebra. Really? Algebra is an Arabic word! They claim there was no Muslim golden age in Spain. I wonder who built the Alhambra or the university at Cordoba? But if you take those things out of the textbooks, you do away with such inconvenient questions.

It would not do to have your target humanized, or productive, or to posses any traits to be admired. That conflicts with the ideal of painting them all as scum throughout all of history. It is much like the Nazi purge of "Jewish" science. Stalinists and Catholics have also tried to purge "Jewish" science. The ways that totalitarians keep people uneducated and marginalize hated groups are ubiquitous.

The historical reality is that in the 900's, Damascus had gaslights, sewers and running water, while London was mostly mud huts and had feces encrusted streets. The reality, is that most of the learning that brought Europe out of the Dark ages, was preserved by the Muslims, in their great Spanish universities. However, if people realized this, they might find that there are Islamic achievements to be admired. Understanding such things might build bridges of mutual respect and quell the insanity of extremists on both sides.

A movement that must have enemies can not tolerate facts or truths getting in the way of dehumanizing those very enemies.

96 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:46:48pm

It's time to put up a geocities page with a animated "Under Construction" gif and talk about how Mike Tyson ate Evander Holyfield's ear

97 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:46:52pm

re: #89 Kung Fu Grip

Hmmm... Impressive if I'm not male.

Same difference.

98 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:47:07pm

re: #90 windsagio

Does you and I slinging obscenities at each other count as an 'echo', if they're different obscenities?

that's less of an echo chamber and more Thunderdome

99 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:47:35pm

re: #77 Kung Fu Grip

Perhaps you read it six years before us. But during? And only now exploded in your silliness? Doubtful dude. Really really really doubtful.

Just go home to your momma's basement from whatever coffeehouse you're wifi posting from and abuse that poor monkey.

100 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:47:55pm

re: #90 windsagio

Does you and I slinging obscenities at each other count as an 'echo', if they're different obscenities?

你自己去他媽的

I mean that in the nicest possible way.

101 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:48:03pm

re: #92 windsagio

God it really is 1998.

Did you hear? Monica Lewinski!

102 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:48:18pm

re: #96 WindUpBird

Dude,I just figured out how "Marquee" works in HTML! This page is gonna be SO KICK ASS!

103 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:48:21pm

re: #88 austin_blue

Did I say there was only one echo chamber? I'm with you.

13 posts in 2.5 years? That many?

I made one comment here about the "dodge" in the title, and the hounds were unleashed. Need more proof of an echo chamber?

104 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:48:42pm

re: #48 LudwigVanQuixote

Kung fu grip, how about we not dance around the clear evasiveness of saying "I'm not going to remember everything from college..."

If absolutely nothing happened like that he would just say absolutely nothing happened like that. He looks as guilty as sin, and it is clear that he has something in mind with perhaps a different take on events.

But I really really don't care about that nearly as much as his ambivalence to the Civil Rights Act. Would you care to comment on that?

Yeah, that's the thing. The story sounds nuts, but you'd think an innocent man would say 'this simply didn't happen, and I don't know who would say such a thing'. He's evading. Something happened--he knows who this person is, and what they're referring to. Is the real story bad enough to hurt him? Maybe not. But it's not out of whole cloth, not the way he's reacting.

Weird.

105 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:48:59pm

re: #103 Kung Fu Grip

Did I say there was only one echo chamber? I'm with you.

13 posts in 2.5 years? That many?

I made one comment here about the "dodge" in the title, and the hounds were unleashed. Need more proof of an echo chamber?

Deep man.

106 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:49:15pm

re: #102 windsagio

Dude,I just figured out how "Marquee" works in HTML! This page is gonna be SO KICK ASS!


It's gonna be snazzy, I'm going to post my entire list of CDs online

107 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:49:16pm

re: #94 SanFranciscoZionist

The whole story sounds weird as hell.

It does. It is certainly a he said/ she said. However, he really seems to have something in mind.

If someone said stuff like that about me in college, the first thing I would say is NO WAY! THAT NEVER HAPPENED!, I would not say some stuff about not remembering everything. It sounds like a defensive pre-emptive move for something.

108 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:49:21pm

Grrr, fucking Comcast...my internet connection went dead a bit ago and hasn't come back up, so I'm tethering my Tilt 2 to my PC to get my nightly LGF fix in before bed.

/good to have a backup

109 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:49:28pm

re: #100 Cato the Elder

I'm curious what the last characters that ASCII ate were supposed to add to that sentence... 'please'?

110 austin_blue  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:49:32pm

re: #93 talon_262

Could just be me, but I smelled the distinct smell of a rancid sock...

Fire up the grill, DF! I'm pitching in a keg of Shiner Bock!

111 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:50:15pm

re: #103 Kung Fu Grip

Did you hear? Biggie Smalls just got murdered

112 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:50:16pm

re: #103 Kung Fu Grip

Did I say there was only one echo chamber? I'm with you.

13 posts in 2.5 years? That many?

I made one comment here about the "dodge" in the title, and the hounds were unleashed. Need more proof of an echo chamber?

Yes, you do.

113 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:50:26pm

re: #77 Kung Fu Grip

Odds are I've been reading this site years longer than most anyone here.

Check. They always say that.

114 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:50:33pm

re: #95 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah, the stalkers are like that.

Let's look at a great post of yours shall we. It is one of your two before tonight.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Brilliant I say.

So please do me a favor when you get back to the stalker blog. Tell Rodent the following:

Making up history is a favorite pass time of the wingnuts. All truths are rewritable to their sense of immediate need and outrage. They rely on the public having no short term memory and no proper education. That way, they can re-write the books, in case anyone wants to look anything up.

Wingnuts now routinely claim that Muslims had nothing to do with Algebra. Really? Algebra is an Arabic word! They claim there was no Muslim golden age in Spain. I wonder who built the Alhambra or the university at Cordoba? But if you take those things out of the textbooks, you do away with such inconvenient questions.

It would not do to have your target humanized, or productive, or to posses any traits to be admired. That conflicts with the ideal of painting them all as scum throughout all of history. It is much like the Nazi purge of "Jewish" science. Stalinists and Catholics have also tried to purge "Jewish" science. The ways that totalitarians keep people uneducated and marginalize hated groups are ubiquitous.

The historical reality is that in the 900's, Damascus had gaslights, sewers and running water, while London was mostly mud huts and had feces encrusted streets. The reality, is that most of the learning that brought Europe out of the Dark ages, was preserved by the Muslims, in their great Spanish universities. However, if people realized this, they might find that there are Islamic achievements to be admired. Understanding such things might build bridges of mutual respect and quell the insanity of extremists on both sides.

A movement that must have enemies can not tolerate facts or truths getting in the way of dehumanizing those very enemies.

Good points Ludwig. It'll be fun watch the Stalkers rant about them on the "Diary of Dorkus".

115 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:50:50pm

re: #110 austin_blue

Fire up the grill, DF! I'm pitching in a keg of Shiner Bock!

I'll bring a sixer of Hair of the Dog Fred! Oh wait, only five of them *hic*

116 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:51:14pm

re: #111 WindUpBird

Did you hear? Biggie Smalls just got murdered

Quiz time!

We eagerly await Kung Fu Dip's answer.

117 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:51:22pm

re: #103 Kung Fu Grip

Did I say there was only one echo chamber? I'm with you.

13 posts in 2.5 years? That many?

I made one comment here about the "dodge" in the title, and the hounds were unleashed. Need more proof of an echo chamber?

Well no not really, let's talk about the Sherrod stuff.

By the way, tell Rodent I wrote a real mini blog about who the real Nazis are and laid out lots of that history stuff he hates.

I mean it's all good before your inevitable banning, so why not enjoy your time here, tell us who you are and we can have a real debate.

118 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:51:32pm

re: #111 WindUpBird

Did you hear? Biggie Smalls just got murdered

They're killing each other in our schools! How did it come to this?!

119 blueraven  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:51:42pm

re: #94 SanFranciscoZionist

The whole story sounds weird as hell.

He should just get it over with. Probably just a college prank, but his reluctance to even address it makes it all the more mysterious and yes, wierd.

Most would not hold it against him, unless it was something really violent.

120 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:51:49pm

re: #96 WindUpBird

It's time to put up a geocities page with a animated "Under Construction" gif and talk about how Mike Tyson ate Evander Holyfield's ear

Uh, OK. I was backing Holyfield in that fight.

121 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:52:09pm

re: #118 windsagio

They're killing each other in our schools! How did it come to this?!

Man, I totally just heard the new Goo Goo dolls record, it's fucking sweet

122 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:52:15pm

re: #117 LudwigVanQuixote

Well no not really, let's talk about the Sherrod stuff.

OK, and....?

123 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:52:35pm

I'm really not in the mood for troll. I'm drunk and I have poison ivy. I'm ill.

124 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:52:36pm

re: #114 Dark_Falcon

Good points Ludwig. It'll be fun watch the Stalkers rant about them on the "Diary of Dorkus".

Check out my mini blog, that is an excerpt. I know I am pimping it, but I put a lot of work into it.

125 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:52:45pm

re: #122 Kung Fu Grip

Try again you fucked that up.

126 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:52:55pm

re: #122 Kung Fu Grip

Dude dude dude


Princess Di just got killed

Isn't that fucked up?

127 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:53:02pm

re: #121 WindUpBird

Man, I totally just heard the new Goo Goo dolls record, it's fucking sweet

Man, I hear Blizzard is working on a new game! It's like Warcraft II in space!

128 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:53:04pm

re: #111 WindUpBird

Did you hear? Biggie Smalls just got murdered

And I'm going to have to take a math class this fall. Though I'd gotten done with those back in high school.

(I was in college in 1998, and I ended up with a B- in that College Algebra class.)

129 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:53:06pm

re: #101 WindUpBird

Did you hear? Monica Lewinski!

I was having chicken pox at the age of 24 when my mother called and helpfully told me about Monica Lewinsky.

I was lying on what sure felt like my deathbed, and all I could think of to say was, "Is she Jewish?" to which my mom replied "What do you think?"

Then she brought me all the papers, and some Vietnamese hot and sour soup.

130 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:53:09pm

re: #109 windsagio

I'm curious what the last characters that ASCII ate were supposed to add to that sentence... 'please'?

I can't reproduce them if the LGF system won't swallow them.

Oddly enough, I usually have better luck with Chinese than with simple old Cyrillic Unicode.

131 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:53:34pm

re: #103 Kung Fu Grip

Did I say there was only one echo chamber? I'm with you.

13 posts in 2.5 years? That many?

I made one comment here about the "dodge" in the title, and the hounds were unleashed. Need more proof of an echo chamber?

Well, when you act like an antagonistic assbite your first post in a thread, with no other post record to speak of as a reference, you get what you give.

132 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:53:42pm

re: #123 tnguitarist

I'm really not in the mood for troll. I'm drunk and I have poison ivy. I'm ill.

I'm sorry, but I have to

133 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:54:21pm

re: #129 SanFranciscoZionist

I was having chicken pox at the age of 24 when my mother called and helpfully told me about Monica Lewinsky.

I was lying on what sure felt like my deathbed, and all I could think of to say was, "Is she Jewish?" to which my mom replied "What do you think?"

Then she brought me all the papers, and some Vietnamese hot and sour soup.

I got it when I was 19. They say the older you are, the worse it is. They were right.

134 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:54:31pm

re: #124 LudwigVanQuixote

Check out my mini blog, that is an excerpt. I know I am pimping it, but I put a lot of work into it.

I already saw it. Great stuff.

135 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:54:33pm

In other news, Congress is passing a law in order to encourage rebel groups to Overthrow Saddam. This will totally work!

136 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:54:43pm

re: #131 talon_262

Wow. Now, can we say there's more than one "antagonistic assbite "?

Am I stooping to your level now?

137 Nimed  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:54:47pm

re: #94 SanFranciscoZionist

The whole story sounds weird as hell.

Frankly, my best guess (hey, baseless speculation is fun!) would be a college prank that may (or may not) have crossed a line.

I must say Paul's defense sounds perfectly reasonable to me so far. That this is surfacing 27 years later and in the middle of a campaign is pretty fishy on its own. But the anonymous accusation part? How can you defend yourself against something like this? No candidate is safe from this type of thing.

138 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:54:50pm

re: #127 windsagio

Man, I hear Blizzard is working on a new game! It's like Warcraft II in space!

Man I got this new game called HALF LIFE, it'll blow your mind

139 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:55:17pm

re: #135 windsagio

In other news, Congress is passing a law in order to encourage rebel groups to Overthrow Saddam. This will totally work!

BRB, I gotta go play metal gear solid

140 stevemcg  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:55:28pm

If my college memories were so fuzzy I couldn't categorically deny kidnapping somebody and making her take drugs, I must have had a great time. As a matter of fact, I DID kidnap somebody once...

141 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:55:32pm

re: #135 windsagio

In other news, Congress is passing a law in order to encourage rebel groups to Overthrow Saddam. This will totally work!

Until we abandon them and let Saddam slaughter them all.

Just a prediction.

142 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:55:33pm

re: #138 WindUpBird

Man I got this new game called HALF LIFE, it'll blow your mind


re: #139 WindUpBird

BRB, I gotta go play metal gear solid


It's been a hell of a year for games!

143 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:55:37pm

re: #136 Kung Fu Grip

Wow. Now, can we say there's more than one "antagonistic assbite "?

Am I stooping to your level now?

Go back to Breitbart. You're lame.

144 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:55:48pm

re: #141 Cato the Elder

I... I think you're psychic.

145 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:55:51pm

re: #119 blueraven

He should just get it over with. Probably just a college prank, but his reluctance to even address it makes it all the more mysterious and yes, wierd.

Most would not hold it against him, unless it was something really violent.

I suspect the problem is that he and his buddies were high, and he doesn't want to admit that. Also, once he admits that ANYTHING happened, he's getting into a deep, deep swamp of suspicion.

146 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:55:58pm

re: #132 WindUpBird

I'm sorry, but I have to


[Video]

There is no way I'm clicking on Faster Pussycat. What's next, Enuf'z'Enuf?

147 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:55:58pm

re: #136 Kung Fu Grip

Wow. Now, can we say there's more than one "antagonistic assbite "?

Am I stooping to your level now?

The thing is, people here know me...they don't know you.

/lighten up, Francis...

148 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:56:10pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

And I'm going to have to take a math class this fall. Though I'd gotten done with those back in high school.

(I was in college in 1998, and I ended up with a B- in that College Algebra class.)

Only a B+ in Algebra! Those evil Muslims were attacking you even then!

////

149 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:56:25pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

And I'm going to have to take a math class this fall. Though I'd gotten done with those back in high school.

(I was in college in 1998, and I ended up with a B- in that College Algebra class.)

I escaped math in college somehow, but it was owed me after that goddamn Calc class I took in high school :(

150 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:56:49pm

re: #147 talon_262

I guess that's the beauty of an echo chamber.

151 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:56:59pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

Man, I just heard some dude hid a bomb in his teddy bear to try to hijack a plane! That's fucked up.

152 boredtechindenver  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:57:23pm

re: #129 SanFranciscoZionist

I was having chicken pox at the age of 24 when my mother called and helpfully told me about Monica Lewinsky.

re: #133 tnguitarist

I got it when I was 19. They say the older you are, the worse it is. They were right.

I got the chicken pox on a trip to Disneyland. And back home through SD, Yuma, Phoenix and after that, I was so sick, I don't remember the rest of the trip. I think I was most contagious on all the E ticket rides, so the trip wasn't a complete waste.

153 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:57:34pm

re: #146 tnguitarist

There is no way I'm clicking on Faster Pussycat. What's next, Enuf'z'Enuf?

hahaha no no no, I wouldn't do that to you

How about... some Y&T!

WHO DOESN'T LOVE PINCH HARMONICS?!?!?!

154 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:58:07pm

re: #137 Nimed

Frankly, my best guess (hey, baseless speculation is fun!) would be a college prank that may (or may not) have crossed a line.

I must say Paul's defense sounds perfectly reasonable to me so far. That this is surfacing 27 years later and in the middle of a campaign is pretty fishy on its own. But the anonymous accusation part? How can you defend yourself against something like this? No candidate is safe from this type of thing.

And all of that is fair. The thing to say then is first a falt out denial and tehn saying all of that forcefully followed by a challenge for his accuser to step forward.

Well that is what someone totally innocent would do.

He looks guilty as sin. I personally don't think it is possible for it to be worse than his views on civil rights, but that seems to have not disqualified him.

155 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:58:40pm

I'm running out of events, dammit :(

156 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:58:45pm

re: #150 Kung Fu Grip

I guess that's the beauty of an echo chamber.

Man, have you seen Saving Private Ryan yet?

157 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:58:50pm

re: #151 windsagio

Man, I just heard some dude hid a bomb in his teddy bear to try to hijack a plane! That's fucked up.

It's better than hiding your head in your ass, like someone on this thread is doing.

158 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:59:06pm

re: #150 Kung Fu Grip

I guess that's the beauty of an echo chamber.

Yawn. Shouldn't you be working on your pappy's still or something?

159 austin_blue  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:59:35pm

re: #119 blueraven

He should just get it over with. Probably just a college prank, but his reluctance to even address it makes it all the more mysterious and yes, wierd.

Most would not hold it against him, unless it was something really violent.

Dude, this happened at *Baylor*. "Pranks" like this are most definitely not allowed, at least officially. Then again, a dear friend, an Old Baylor Line grad, when meeting someone else who was graduated from that august institution, immediately asks "Are you gay or Baptist?" (He's gay, and Methodist.)

Vertical heterosexual intercourse is banned because it looks too much like dancin'.

160 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:59:37pm

re: #158 Gus 802

Thanks for reminding me.

161 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:59:43pm

re: #156 WindUpBird

Man, have you seen Saving Private Ryan yet?

Great movie. Granted, I see lots of movies since I've been in college, but that one was worth it!

162 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 10:59:52pm

re: #153 WindUpBird

hahaha no no no, I wouldn't do that to you

How about... some Y&T!


[Video]WHO DOESN'T LOVE PINCH HARMONICS?!?!?!

That's funny as hell that you mention that. I was giving my other guitarist a hard time because he can't do pinch (or artificial, if you like) harmonics. Every solo I played tonight was full-on harmonics.

163 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:00:00pm
164 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:00:05pm

re: #150 Kung Fu Grip

I guess that's the beauty of an echo chamber.

Dude, you know what I really really want? A soundproof bedroom so the dogs of the tenants upstairs don't wake me up when the ladies are out drinking and the doggies go nutso. Can you help me out here?

165 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:00:05pm

re: #133 tnguitarist

I got it when I was 19. They say the older you are, the worse it is. They were right.

I was sick as a dog for over a week before the spots began. I thought it was just a really bad flu. Then I started to spot.

Now, a sane person would have realized what it was at this point, but I was out of my mind with illness, so I called the advice nurse at Kaiser who said:

1. She didn't know what that could be.
2. There seemed to be a lot of it going around.
3. Could I come in and have the doctor take a look?

So I took public transit while I was popping pox out on every surface--I probably killed someone on the 38 Geary that day, and never knew--and waited for half an hour before seeing a doctor who said, "You've got the chicken pox. Didn't the advice nurse tell you what this was?"

Things just got worse from that point on.

166 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:00:15pm

re: #160 Kung Fu Grip

Thanks for reminding me.

Can you believe it? Big Audio Dynamite just broke up!

167 boredtechindenver  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:00:17pm

re: #157 Dark_Falcon

It's better than hiding your head in your ass, like someone on this thread is doing.

Hey, no dissing auto-salad tossing, man. Who knows what you would do if you were extremely flexible.
///

168 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:00:39pm

re: #166 WindUpBird

BAD or BAD II?

169 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:00:40pm

re: #137 Nimed

Frankly, my best guess (hey, baseless speculation is fun!) would be a college prank that may (or may not) have crossed a line.

I must say Paul's defense sounds perfectly reasonable to me so far. That this is surfacing 27 years later and in the middle of a campaign is pretty fishy on its own. But the anonymous accusation part? How can you defend yourself against something like this? No candidate is safe from this type of thing.

Yeah. It's not a classy way to attack someone.

170 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:01:22pm

re: #160 Kung Fu Grip

Thanks for reminding me.

Yeah. Get some rest. Tomorrow you have to get your mullet re-cut and hit the local Walmart.

171 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:02:19pm

re: #170 Gus 802

Ha!! What a rascal you are!

172 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:02:20pm

re: #150 Kung Fu Grip

I guess that's the beauty of an echo chamber.

we get the echo chamber thing. I'm asking you about your remarks on Sherrod. Would you please elucidate them for us?

While we at it, say hello to my fans for me.

173 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:02:21pm

re: #165 SanFranciscoZionist

The third day or so I woke up with one sore. I thought, 'this won't be so bad', The day after that, yikes. Surface of the moon.

174 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:03:40pm

re: #172 LudwigVanQuixote

I think the point was made that Princess Di is really dead.

175 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:03:54pm

THE NEW 1998 TRANS AM

176 stevemcg  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:04:17pm

Kung Fu Grip will go back to his buddies and tell them how he tore y'all a new one.

177 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:04:41pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

And I'm going to have to take a math class this fall. Though I'd gotten done with those back in high school.

(I was in college in 1998, and I ended up with a B- in that College Algebra class.)

Heh. My son is smart enough to deal with any math class. He love engineering & architecture which demand good math skills - the killer is that so far he hates math. Which means that daddy who despised math in the day is now scrambling to force himself to learn of limits and integrals and differentiation and integration so that when the time comes I can smile and make jokes about how easy that equation is. Because that's what a dad does. I couldn't learn this to make my own life better but his? Damn right skippy.

178 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:04:56pm

Already crossed off the list.

179 austin_blue  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:05:15pm

re: #166 WindUpBird

Can you believe it? Big Audio Dynamite just broke up!

No! Really? Medicine Show was Killer Bee!

180 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:05:24pm

This is seriously the most boring troll evah.

181 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:05:44pm

re: #180 tnguitarist

High praise, indeed.

182 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:06:18pm

re: #180 tnguitarist

This is seriously the most boring troll evah.

You make your own fun.

183 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:06:27pm

re: #181 Kung Fu Grip

High praise, indeed.

Would you like to discuss a topic?

184 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:07:01pm

re: #183 tnguitarist

I tried. Read the thread. You know the rest.

185 boredtechindenver  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:07:14pm

K, you have all scared off SFZ. I wanted to show her the hideous bathroom and kitchen.

186 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:07:44pm

re: #170 Gus 802

Yeah. Get some rest. Tomorrow you have to get your mullet re-cut and hit the local Walmart.

Which one do you think it is? It really doesn't matter since they are all douches anyway, bu I'm curious as to your opinion. It doesn't have the feel of Possum. It certainly doesn't have the feel of one of the harridans over there.

Much too sane for TFK and no Kerry is Satan reference.

No discussion of his ninja ways or how tough he is or guns... not likely Iron Fist.

Definitely not Rodent or Savage.

Could be Paul Revere or Snork though.

But I could be wrong. Like I said, it really doesn't matter. It's one of them and they are all douches.

187 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:08:42pm

re: #184 Kung Fu Grip

I tried. Read the thread. You know the rest.

You rode in to defend Paul, then refused to answer any questions.

188 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:08:50pm

re: #185 boredtechindenver

K, you have all scared off SFZ. I wanted to show her the hideous bathroom and kitchen.

The kitchen has a certain demented retro charm.

The bathroom...uh...

189 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:09:01pm

re: #186 LudwigVanQuixote

"It's one of them" THEM! You know.... them!!!!

190 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:09:03pm

re: #174 Kung Fu Grip

I think the point was made that Princess Di is really dead.

How cryptic. Yeah could be Possum. He hasn't denied his stalkerness. And trying to be cryptic like that fits the bill.

191 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:09:28pm

re: #181 Kung Fu Grip

High praise, indeed.

Seriously though. We don't give a shit. You're just an outsider making dumb comments. You won't be here tomorrow which is the good part. You're just another moral coward that happens by here from time to time. Basically you're just a low life scum bag for the most part.

192 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:09:39pm

re: #185 boredtechindenver

K, you have all scared off SFZ. I wanted to show her the hideous bathroom and kitchen.

Looks like a set from a Tarantino movie.

193 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:09:53pm

re: #190 LudwigVanQuixote

does "who" really matter that much?

Or just something to talk about? :D

194 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:10:25pm

re: #186 LudwigVanQuixote

Which one do you think it is? It really doesn't matter since they are all douches anyway, bu I'm curious as to your opinion. It doesn't have the feel of Possum. It certainly doesn't have the feel of one of the harridans over there.

Much too sane for TFK and no Kerry is Satan reference.

No discussion of his ninja ways or how tough he is or guns... not likely Iron Fist.

Definitely not Rodent or Savage.

Could be Paul Revere or Snork though.

But I could be wrong. Like I said, it really doesn't matter. It's one of them and they are all douches.

It could well be TFK. He's had sock puppets here and when he used two of them he 'sounded' very different than he normally does.

195 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:10:25pm

re: #189 Kung Fu Grip

"It's one of them" THEM! You know... them!!!

Yes of course you are. So which one? You know you are going to get this sock banned and deleted pretty much as soon as Charles gets around to it. So before you go, which are you? And let's talk.

196 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:11:02pm

re: #186 LudwigVanQuixote

Which one do you think it is? It really doesn't matter since they are all douches anyway, bu I'm curious as to your opinion. It doesn't have the feel of Possum. It certainly doesn't have the feel of one of the harridans over there.

Much too sane for TFK and no Kerry is Satan reference.

No discussion of his ninja ways or how tough he is or guns... not likely Iron Fist.

Definitely not Rodent or Savage.

Could be Paul Revere or Snork though.

But I could be wrong. Like I said, it really doesn't matter. It's one of them and they are all douches.

No telling really. A lot of times we'll get people like Kung Fu Grip claiming to be a woman but turning out to be a man. Happened several times before. My guess then is that Kung Fu Grip is probably some stalker dude.

197 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:11:08pm

re: #187 tnguitarist

That you think I defended Paul is proof you haven't kept up.

198 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:11:24pm

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

It could well be TFK. He's had sock puppets here and when he used two of them he 'sounded' very different than he normally does.

No I am actually starting to smell marsupial. We'll see though, it isn't really going to be a loss for me if I don't guess correctly.

199 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:11:59pm

re: #196 Gus 802

No telling really. A lot of times we'll get people like Kung Fu Grip claiming to be a woman but turning out to be a man. Happened several times before. My guess then is that Kung Fu Grip is probably some stalker dude.

Hell I think about 35% of the 'girls' on here regularly aren't :p

200 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:12:30pm

re: #196 Gus 802

No telling really. A lot of times we'll get people like Kung Fu Grip claiming to be a woman but turning out to be a man. Happened several times before. My guess then is that Kung Fu Grip is probably some stalker dude.

LOL, Of course this is one of the stalkers. I'm also pretty sure it isn't one of their "ladies." Since he has taken the time to come here, why not use this opportunity to chat with us though?

201 Nimed  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:12:30pm

re: #154 LudwigVanQuixote

And all of that is fair. The thing to say then is first a falt out denial and tehn saying all of that forcefully followed by a challenge for his accuser to step forward.

Well that is what someone totally innocent would do.

He looks guilty as sin. I personally don't think it is possible for it to be worse than his views on civil rights, but that seems to have not disqualified him.

Yeah, he definitely sounds like he did something, and is preparing for the eventuality of further developments. The thing is that getting voters to go "Mmm..." at this, like you and I are doing right now, was probably the reason for this stunt.

Of course, this is Rand Paul we're talking about, so there are plenty of reasons to loathe the man. Still, he deserves to be treated fairly and all that -- which would mean a chance to respond to a specific accuser with specific allegations.

202 austin_blue  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:12:39pm

re: #185 boredtechindenver

K, you have all scared off SFZ. I wanted to show her the hideous bathroom and kitchen.

I'll agree that the bathroom is a disaster, but the kitchen has got good bones. I'd like to have a crack at it with new flooring, fascia, and countertops. I actually love the upper sliding drawers with that Jetson's back angle construction. Good stuff!

203 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:13:26pm

re: #197 Kung Fu Grip

That you think I defended Paul is proof you haven't kept up.

Well, do you have any opinions, or are you just wasting virtual oxygen?

204 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:13:39pm

re: #201 Nimed

My main thing on the subject.

"Doesn't change a thing, but damn its funny"

205 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:13:49pm

re: #199 windsagio

Hell I think about 35% of the 'girls' on here regularly aren't :p

That would explain a lot about why none of them are offended when Savage dreams about women being made to shut up by forced sodomization.

206 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:13:58pm

re: #195 LudwigVanQuixote

Why would Charles delete me? Because the echo chamber needs to be free of contaminants?

Civil discourse is in short supply here. Perhaps we know why.

207 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:14:30pm

re: #205 LudwigVanQuixote

That would explain a lot about why none of them are offended when Savage dreams about women being made to shut up by forced sodomization.

WTF?

I feel I missed something somewhere >>

208 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:15:31pm

re: #206 Kung Fu Grip

Why would Charles delete me? Because the echo chamber needs to be free of contaminants?

Civil discourse is in short supply here. Perhaps we know why.

I can name plenty of liberals and conservatives on here. Name another blog where you see that.

209 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:15:47pm

re: #201 Nimed

Yeah, he definitely sounds like he did something, and is preparing for the eventuality of further developments. The thing is that getting voters to go "Mmm..." at this, like you and I are doing right now, was probably the reason for this stunt.

Of course, this is Rand Paul we're talking about, so there are plenty of reasons to loathe the man. Still, he deserves to be treated fairly and all that -- which would mean a chance to respond to a specific accuser with specific allegations.

I hear that. And I am being fair. If even he had flat out denied this and acted like an innocent man, I would say that this is garbage without proof and that even he dopes not deserve to be s,eared by anonymous accusers.

But he didn't do that.

210 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:15:56pm

The echo chamber thing still blows my mind. He should come by when we're talking about Israel sometime >>

211 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:16:27pm

re: #207 windsagio

WTF?

I feel I missed something somewhere >>

Don't worry...you didn't miss anything with savage.

212 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:16:32pm

re: #203 tnguitarist

Sorry, but responding to infantile insults can be time consuming.

213 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:17:17pm

re: #206 Kung Fu Grip

Why would Charles delete me? Because the echo chamber needs to be free of contaminants?

Civil discourse is in short supply here. Perhaps we know why.

You're an idiot. Accept that and it will be the first step.

214 boredtechindenver  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:17:20pm

re: #188 SanFranciscoZionist

The kitchen has a certain demented retro charm.

The bathroom...uh...

re: #192 Cato the Elder

Looks like a set from a Tarantino movie.

Actually i like the kitchen. The bathroom needs Mr. Wolf. It needs to be taken to a corn field and beaten with bats. It needs to be taken to a beet field and cornholed.

I am going to put a bid on the place.

215 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:17:42pm

re: #199 windsagio

Hell I think about 35% of the 'girls' on here regularly aren't :p

Hey! I can prove...

...no, I can't. You'll have to take my word on my XX.

216 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:17:46pm

re: #213 Gus 802


Hook. Line. Sinker.

217 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:17:54pm

re: #212 Kung Fu Grip

Sorry, but responding to infantile insults can be time consuming.

In other words, you don't want to answer the question.

218 Artist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:18:09pm

re: #206 Kung Fu Grip

Why would Charles delete me? Because the echo chamber needs to be free of contaminants?

Civil discourse is in short supply here. Perhaps we know why.

You keep using that term...
I don't think it means what you think it means.

219 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:18:12pm

re: #215 SanFranciscoZionist

Hey! I can prove...

...no, I can't. You'll have to take my word on my XX.

I believe you, but it might be prejudice because I especially like you ;)

220 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:18:23pm

re: #216 Kung Fu Grip

Hook. Line. Sinker.

Yep. And I'm holding the pole.

221 darthstar  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:18:31pm

Rand Paul could learn a thing or two about running away from reporters from Sharron Angle...number one, stop talking! Number two: if you're at Fox, you're among friends...don't be afraid...they're paid to protect you.

222 austin_blue  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:18:31pm

re: #206 Kung Fu Grip

Why would Charles delete me? Because the echo chamber needs to be free of contaminants?

Civil discourse is in short supply here. Perhaps we know why.

I asked a reasonable question in my #88. You haven't answered!

I feel neglected! And sad! My feelers are hurt!

Please respond with an honest answer to a perfectly legitimate question.

223 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:18:56pm

re: #201 Nimed

Yeah, he definitely sounds like he did something, and is preparing for the eventuality of further developments. The thing is that getting voters to go "Mmm..." at this, like you and I are doing right now, was probably the reason for this stunt.

Of course, this is Rand Paul we're talking about, so there are plenty of reasons to loathe the man. Still, he deserves to be treated fairly and all that -- which would mean a chance to respond to a specific accuser with specific allegations.

Yeah. Basically, with something this weird, and an anonymous accuser, I'm inclined to dismiss it from consideration. Of course, I already don't like Rand Paul, so whether I take this into account or not isn't really important.

224 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:19:22pm

re: #206 Kung Fu Grip

Why would Charles delete me? Because the echo chamber needs to be free of contaminants?

Civil discourse is in short supply here. Perhaps we know why.

OK very one note. Here I am asking you to debate and I have given you several topics to discuss.

Let me ask, do you think that the Muslims never had a Golden age in Spain or nothing to do with Algebra?

Simple question, really a yes or no.

Do you think that Teabaggers represent a rising Nazi-like threat to American liberty? I believe I can make that case strongly. Care to comment?

Do you think that commandments from G-d are voluntary or obligatory if you believe those commandments actually came from G-d. What does that mean for Teabaggers who claim to be Cristian or Jewish?


Let's chat :)

225 Nimed  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:19:25pm

re: #210 windsagio

The echo chamber thing still blows my mind. He should come by when we're talking about Israel sometime >>

Or the stimulus, or taxation, or the Iraq War, or the Afghanistan War, or HCR, or acceptable pizza ingredients.

226 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:19:46pm

re: #222 austin_blue

I asked a reasonable question in my #88. You haven't answered!

I feel neglected! And sad! My feelers are hurt!

Please respond with an honest answer to a perfectly legitimate question.

They're too busy working on their martyr cookie.

227 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:20:01pm

re: #225 Nimed

I'd argue that it used to be an echo chamber, but that might get me in trouble :p

/ducks!

228 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:20:04pm

re: #206 Kung Fu Grip

Why wld Charles dlt m? Bcs th ch chmbr nds o b fr f cntmnnts?

Cvl dscrs s n shrt spply hr. Prhps w knw why.

The only contaminant I'm seeing here is you.

229 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:20:05pm

re: #212 Kung Fu Grip

If by echo chamber you mean complete opposite of echo chamber, then you're right.

230 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:20:27pm

re: #207 windsagio

WTF?

I feel I missed something somewhere >>

Go check the miniblog. It's all there.

231 darthstar  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:20:28pm

re: #218 SteelPH

You keep using that term...
I don't think it means what you think it means.

Inconceivable!

232 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:20:43pm

re: #230 LudwigVanQuixote

Will do >

233 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:21:07pm

re: #224 LudwigVanQuixote

OK very one note. Here I am asking you to debate and I have given you several topics to discuss.

Let me ask, do you think that the Muslims never had a Golden age in Spain or nothing to do with Algebra?

Simple question, really a yes or no.

Do you think that Teabaggers represent a rising Nazi-like threat to American liberty? I believe I can make that case strongly. Care to comment?

Do you think that commandments from G-d are voluntary or obligatory if you believe those commandments actually came from G-d. What does that mean for Teabaggers who claim to be Cristian or Jewish?

Let's chat :)

No. No (um, really?). I'm an athiest, so I don't care.

234 boredtechindenver  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:21:10pm

So windy and WUB and other drinkers of good beer. I pointed Hoosier to McNellie's in Norman. Check the beer list. Next week is Spaten Optimator. I had 3 of those at the Tulsa branch of McNellie's like 4 yrs ago, and was on my ass so fast. Them Vyvx guys drank me under the table.

235 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:21:46pm

re: #216 Kung Fu Grip

Hook. Line. Sinker.

Yeah this is Possum. Get bored over there?

236 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:22:06pm

re: #206 Kung Fu Grip

Why would Charles delete me? Because the echo chamber needs to be free of contaminants?

Civil discourse is in short supply here. Perhaps we know why.

Trying to be gentle here--you did jump on at comment four, and rather than express a personal opinion of your own, you insulted the site.

I have learned that, most of the time, with LGF, you get as good as you give. If you brought nothing but crankypants complaints about echo chambers, it's not surprising you're not getting much civil discourse back.

I get civil discourse here all the time! Except occasionally when I go bazonkers and try to whap people's heads off with my vorpal sword.

237 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:22:29pm

re: #235 LudwigVanQuixote

Well the "Oh I'm actually trolling you guys!" tactic isn't exactly new :p

PS: Why is your name 'van' and not 'von'? >>

238 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:22:39pm

re: #210 windsagio

The echo chamber thing still blows my mind. He should come by when we're talking about Israel sometime >>

To be fair, Wind, you've accused us yourself of being a bit echo-chambery on Israel.

239 Nimed  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:23:27pm

re: #223 SanFranciscoZionist

I guess that makes us a mini echo chamber. Damn! :)

240 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:23:41pm

re: #206 Kung Fu Grip

Why would Charles delete me? Because the echo chamber needs to be free of contaminants?

Civil discourse is in short supply here. Perhaps we know why.

Dude, I'm a card carrying socialist. Yeah, for real. Member in good standing of the Democratic Socialists of America. Mike Harrington's old group. No, this is not the first time I have said this. I'm still here and this is still a right of center blog.

Live with it.

241 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:23:58pm

re: #236 SanFranciscoZionist

Understood. But, the "march in lockstep" LGF narrative on Paul should be mind-numbing to most.

242 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:24:01pm

re: #233 Kung Fu Grip

Excellent, so lets talk about why the teabags are just like Nazis.

Why would you think that a racist fear based populist movement like the teabags, which has at its core a notion of taking America back from corrupting influences and non-whites, filled with hate and fear promoting conspiracy theories and dreams of victimization in its own country is not Nazi like?

243 mikhailtheplumber  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:24:06pm

re: #233 Kung Fu Grip

No. No (um, really?). I'm an athiest, so I don't care.

You might be pretending to be one, but you're definitely no atheist. Being atheist does not mean that you "do not care" about religious issues.

244 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:24:13pm

re: #238 SanFranciscoZionist

To be fair, Wind, you've accused us yourself of being a bit echo-chambery on Israel.

I changed all that!

Anyways my preferred term is 'monoculture' ;)

245 Nimed  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:24:24pm

re: #227 windsagio

I'd argue that it used to be an echo chamber, but that might get me in trouble :p

/ducks!

You're a natural born provocateur.

246 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:24:43pm

re: #245 Nimed

You're a natural born provocateur.

Its a living :D

247 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:24:50pm

re: #233 Kung Fu Grip

No. No (um, really?). I'm an athiest, so I don't care.

Big deal. I'm an atheist too. You're still an asshole.

248 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:24:53pm

re: #227 windsagio

I'd argue that it used to be an echo chamber, but that might get me in trouble :p

/ducks!

There was a time. We had some people who worked against the flow, but they tended to get squished a lot.

249 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:25:35pm

re: #242 LudwigVanQuixote

I don't accept your premises. Therefore, I don't share your conclusion.

250 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:25:47pm

re: #237 windsagio

Well the "Oh I'm actually trolling you guys!" tactic isn't exactly new :p

PS: Why is your name 'van' and not 'von'? >>

Because it's Ludwig van Beethoven. The Quixote is because I love the novel and the character. Favorite music and favorite literature. It's nothing that profound really.

251 mikhailtheplumber  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:26:18pm

Man, what happened to the entertaining, go-out-with-a-bang trolls LFG used to have?

I'm bored!

252 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:26:18pm

re: #241 Kung Fu Grip

Understood. But, the "march in lockstep" LGF narrative on Paul should be mind-numbing to most.

Do you have a differing opinion about either Mr. Paul that you would like to share?

253 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:26:30pm

re: #241 Kung Fu Grip

Understood. But, the "march in lockstep" LGF narrative on Paul should be mind-numbing to most.

Well, it's only because Paul (and his dad) deserve the rap they're getting, for the most part...they're the bad craziness infecting today's GOP personified.

254 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:26:35pm

re: #243 mikhailtheplumber

You'll note the question wasn't about whether I care about religious issues. Read it again.

255 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:26:37pm

re: #250 LudwigVanQuixote

Because it's Ludwig van Beethoven. The Quixote is because I love the novel and the character. Favorite music and favorite literature. It's nothing that profound really.

You know, it never occurred to me that the first part was from Beethoven. I got the quixote part :D

256 darthstar  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:26:42pm

re: #249 Kung Fu Grip

I don't accept your premises. Therefore, I don't share your conclusion.

Nor do you seem to answer a question. Sorry, GI Joe, but you can't expect to get very far with only five or six bumper-sticker responses.

257 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:26:43pm

re: #242 LudwigVanQuixote

Excellent, so lets talk about why the teabags are just like Nazis.

Why is a raven like a writing desk?

258 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:27:42pm

re: #256 darthstar

Nor do you seem to answer a question. Sorry, GI Joe, but you can't expect to get very far with only five or six bumper-sticker responses.

Hmm. I think it's the atheist Sarah Palin!

/

259 darthstar  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:27:57pm

re: #251 mikhailtheplumber

Man, what happened to the entertaining, go-out-with-a-bang trolls LFG used to have?

I'm bored!

Homeschooling and vouchers.

260 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:28:50pm

re: #253 talon_262

The Pauls have principles, some of which are wrong-headed. But, with things as they are in politics, someone who has principles and sticks to them has a certain redeeming quality -- if nothing much else.

261 mikhailtheplumber  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:28:57pm

re: #254 Kung Fu Grip

Well, you said that since you're an atheist you don't care about:

1) whether or not "the Muslims never had a Golden age in Spain or nothing to do with Algebra".

2) whether or not "Teabaggers represent a rising Nazi-like threat to American liberty?"

3) whether or not "commandments from G-d are voluntary or obligatory if you believe those commandments actually came from G-d. What does that mean for Teabaggers who claim to be Cristian or Jewish?"

So it's not that I misread your answer. It's that your answer was a non-sequitur.

262 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:29:17pm

re: #260 Kung Fu Grip

The Pauls have principles, some of which are wrong-headed. But, with things as they are in politics, someone who has principles and sticks to them has a certain redeeming quality -- if nothing much else.

What principles would you say they have?

263 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:29:24pm

How is American beer like having sex in a canoe?

264 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:29:39pm

re: #256 darthstar

Nor do you seem to answer a question. Sorry, GI Joe, but you can't expect to get very far with only five or six bumper-sticker responses.

Hey, it works for Sarah Palin! Though she doesn't have to face hardball questions.

265 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:29:44pm

re: #263 tnguitarist

How is American beer like having sex in a canoe?

It's fucking close to water.

266 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:29:56pm

re: #261 mikhailtheplumber

My answers were No, No, I don't care.

Read!

267 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:30:06pm

re: #260 Kung Fu Grip

The Pauls have principles, some of which are wrong-headed. But, with things as they are in politics, someone who has principles and sticks to them has a certain redeeming quality -- if nothing much else.

Hey. I hope you don't mind but I'm just going to down ding everything you say.

268 darthstar  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:30:07pm

re: #260 Kung Fu Grip

The Pauls have principles, some of which are wrong-headed. But, with things as they are in politics, someone who has principles and sticks to them has a certain redeeming quality -- if nothing much else.

Principles? Pray tell! Please, give us an example of these "redeeming qualities" the Pauls have. I'm genuinely interested.

269 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:30:08pm

re: #265 SanFranciscoZionist

Ding!

270 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:30:49pm

re: #267 Gus 802

You mean you haven't already?

271 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:30:54pm

re: #266 Kung Fu Grip

My answers were No, No, I don't care.

Read!

You should stick around and keep telling us to read. Before you got here, we had no idea.

272 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:31:16pm

re: #249 Kung Fu Grip

OK which ones...

Here you are whining about no discussion and you are not giving any.

Perhaps you don't like the topics.

OK, how about the First Amendment and how it is absolutely anti-American to deny freedom of religious expression to any group that practices within the bounds of criminal law?

OK ok, maybe you don't like that?

How about how a law maker who is supposed to uphold those principles ought not be able to keep his job when he opposes them. It's sort of like a free-market poulitboro member or a meat eating Buddhist monk. It doesn't work so well. Shouldn't all those Republicans who are opposed to granting first amendment rights to other Americans be impeached? And do say why not in some meaningful way?

273 austin_blue  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:31:49pm

re: #260 Kung Fu Grip

The Pauls have principles, some of which are wrong-headed. But, with things as they are in politics, someone who has principles and sticks to them has a certain redeeming quality -- if nothing much else.

If he was honest, Ron would have named his son Rosenbaum Paul.

But I'll agree with anyone who thinks that that sounds really fucking stupid.

274 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:32:01pm

re: #270 Kung Fu Grip

I know, what do you think about Park51?

275 mikhailtheplumber  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:32:09pm

re: #260 Kung Fu Grip

"Principles" by itself doesn't mean anything. It's what these principles mean.

The Confederation had strong principles regarding slavery. Al Qaeda has strong principles regarding Sharia Law and the West.

I wouldn't say they are necessary redeeming qualities.

276 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:32:32pm

re: #274 tnguitarist

I know, what do you think about Park51?

Don't expect an answer.

277 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:32:41pm

re: #263 tnguitarist

How is American beer like having sex in a canoe?

I give up, How?

278 Nimed  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:33:02pm

re: #235 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah this is Possum. Get bored over there?

Hey, I remember that name. It's that dude that has such a low opinion of himself that he actually admits that his purpose in life is making you and a bunch of other people "waste precious minutes" (the implicit admission is that the minutes of his own life are not that valuable).

I think that guy may suffer from a mental disorder. Not kidding here.

279 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:33:03pm

re: #266 Kung Fu Grip

My answers were No, No, I don't care.

Read!

You don't care about the Golden Age of Spain, OR the Tea/Fascist connection OR the implications of a revealed religion for modern conservatism? Heck, what do you like to talk about?

(Me, I'd always pick Spain, 'cause medieval Jewish history is one of my things, and Spain is just the epicenter of all kinds of cool stuff for that.)

Did you know they've found Christian tombstones from Spain with quotations from the Koran on them? Just, you know, making the whole family happy, and getting maximum piety on the marker.

280 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:33:10pm

re: #260 Kung Fu Grip

The Pauls have principles, some of which are wrong-headed. But, with things as they are in politics, someone who has principles and sticks to them has a certain redeeming quality -- if nothing much else.

I have yet to see any. All I see is two men who will ape rape the Constitution at every chance possible. Even my Moonbat best friend laughs his ass off at the Pauls. (Serious Moonbat. Took me 6 months to get him away from Birther stupiditiy and I'm still working on agw. He's not ignorant, though, so I have hope.

281 austin_blue  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:33:10pm

re: #277 Dark_Falcon

I give up, How?

Fucking next to water.

282 darthstar  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:33:19pm

re: #266 Kung Fu Grip

My answers were No, No, I don't care.

Read!

In that case I'll assume the questions were:
Do you know what you're talking about?
Do you realize how pathetic your rhetorical skills are?
and
Isn't it past your bedtime?

283 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:33:27pm

re: #260 Kung Fu Grip

The Pauls have principles, some of which are wrong-headed. But, with things as they are in politics, someone who has principles and sticks to them has a certain redeeming quality -- if nothing much else.

The only "principles" in see the Pauls (and a good deal of the GOP nowadays) is gaining political power at any cost, even if it means crawling into bed with batshit conspiracy loons, racists, xenophobes, and other dregs of the extreme right-wing.

What used to be fringe is under rehabilitation for the mainstream...

284 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:33:27pm

re: #275 mikhailtheplumber

They aren't redeeming at all. But sticking to one's principles, no matter what they are, is.

285 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:33:33pm

re: #277 Dark_Falcon

I give up, How?

SFZ answered. They're both fucking close to water.

286 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:33:47pm

re: #260 Kung Fu Grip

The Pauls have principles, some of which are wrong-headed. But, with things as they are in politics, someone who has principles and sticks to them has a certain redeeming quality -- if nothing much else.

Yeah principles of hating blacks, Jews, Israel, Civil Rights, and modern economics as well as charity and the social contract. Thier principles are either anti-American, insane or both.

287 Kung Fu Grip  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:34:17pm

re: #282 darthstar

Right! Goodnight, all. Sincerely.

288 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:34:23pm

re: #273 austin_blue

If he was honest, Ron would have named his son Rosenbaum Paul.

But I'll agree with anyone who thinks that that sounds really fucking stupid.

And there really is no masculine form of Alisa.

But I tend to believe them when they say 'Randal' was not a tribute to Ayn.

289 darthstar  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:34:48pm

re: #286 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah principles of hating blacks, Jews, Israel, Civil Rights, and modern economics as well as charity and the social contract. Thier principles are either anti-American, insane or both.

But they do stick with them! And, according to GI Joe with the kung fu grip, that's redeeming!
/facepalm

290 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:34:51pm

re: #287 Kung Fu Grip

Right! Goodnight, all. Sincerely.

Get help.

291 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:34:52pm

re: #284 Kung Fu Grip

They aren't redeeming at all. But sticking to one's principles, no matter what they are, is.

So was Stalin admirable for sticking to his principles, no matter how many people they killed?

292 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:34:58pm

re: #287 Kung Fu Grip

Right! Goodnight, all. Sincerely.

No Park51 answer?

293 austin_blue  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:34:59pm

re: #279 SanFranciscoZionist

You don't care about the Golden Age of Spain, OR the Tea/Fascist connection OR the implications of a revealed religion for modern conservatism? Heck, what do you like to talk about?

(Me, I'd always pick Spain, 'cause medieval Jewish history is one of my things, and Spain is just the epicenter of all kinds of cool stuff for that.)

Did you know they've found Christian tombstones from Spain with quotations from the Koran on them? Just, you know, making the whole family happy, and getting maximum piety on the marker.

My wife's folkloric group has a whole set of Spanish Sephardic tunes. Lovely stuff.

294 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:35:01pm

re: #276 Gus 802

Don't expect an answer.

It's in the interest of civil discourse, Gus. Or maybe more like seeing what the hamster will actually eat.

295 mikhailtheplumber  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:35:44pm

re: #279 SanFranciscoZionist

SFZ, have you read "Dying in the Law of Moses", by Miriam Bodian?

Awesome book. It's about post-expulsion Spain, but still worth every penny.

296 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:36:27pm

re: #292 tnguitarist

No Park51 answer?

KFG is out like a fart in the wind...

297 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:36:27pm

re: #290 Gus 802

Get help.

Quite Concur.

298 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:37:09pm

re: #287 Kung Fu Grip

Peace >> (looks like you need it :D)

299 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:37:09pm

re: #279 SanFranciscoZionist

You don't care about the Golden Age of Spain, OR the Tea/Fascist connection OR the implications of a revealed religion for modern conservatism? Heck, what do you like to talk about?

(Me, I'd always pick Spain, 'cause medieval Jewish history is one of my things, and Spain is just the epicenter of all kinds of cool stuff for that.)

Did you know they've found Christian tombstones from Spain with quotations from the Koran on them? Just, you know, making the whole family happy, and getting maximum piety on the marker.

And I think we could have a fabulous discussion about Astronomy from there. Aldebaran for instance, is an Arabic name. It's also a lot of fun to talk abut the Inquisition, the Moriscos and the way that really, the Moors were vastly more civilized than the Spanish.

300 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:37:14pm

re: #284 Kung Fu Grip

They aren't redeeming at all. But sticking to one's principles, no matter what they are, is.

Is it better to stick to your principles, or to be educated into better principles without letting pride blind you to the truth?

For that matter, what is a principle? Is any belief a principle? Is it always good to cling to beliefs? Must a principle also include action?

301 austin_blue  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:37:23pm

re: #285 tnguitarist

SFZ answered. They're both fucking close to water.

Hey!

302 mikhailtheplumber  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:37:24pm

re: #284 Kung Fu Grip

They aren't redeeming at all. But sticking to one's principles, no matter what they are, is.

That is so wrong in so many levels.

"I don't care what these Newton says about gravity! I charged these magical chicken wings with phlegm from an eagle, so when I jump off this cliff I'll be able to fly".

303 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:37:44pm

re: #296 talon_262

KFG is out like a fart in the wind...

And with him gone, I've got to get to bed myself. Sleep well, all.

304 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:37:46pm

re: #302 mikhailtheplumber

That is so wrong in so many levels.

"I don't care what these Newton says about gravity! I charged these magical chicken wings with phlegm from an eagle, so when I jump off this cliff I'll be able to fly".

LOL!

305 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:37:58pm

re: #287 Kung Fu Grip

Right! Goodnight, all. Sincerely.

Wait, no debate? Really the echo chamber was happy to talk to you.

306 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:38:13pm

re: #296 talon_262

KFG is out like a fart in the wind...

I won't lie. I was baiting.

307 darthstar  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:38:33pm

re: #302 mikhailtheplumber

That is so wrong in so many levels.

"I don't care what these Newton says about gravity! I charged these magical chicken wings with phlegm from an eagle, so when I jump off this cliff I'll be able to fly".

That's actually ranch dressing. You might want to just sit for a while. //

308 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:38:40pm

re: #303 Dark_Falcon

And with him gone, I've got to get to bed myself. Sleep well, all.

I'm out in a minute too...gotta leave early(ish) in the morning to visit some friends in Birmingham for the weekend.

309 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:38:42pm

re: #295 mikhailtheplumber

SFZ, have you read "Dying in the Law of Moses", by Miriam Bodian?

Awesome book. It's about post-expulsion Spain, but still worth every penny.

Put on Amazon list.

Thanks!

310 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:38:59pm

re: #297 Dark_Falcon

Quite Concur.

For sure. Not a big deal though. Just another moronic troll with nothing to say. Later DF.

311 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:39:30pm

Anagrams for "Rand Paul":

Lunar Pad
A Lard Pun
Run Ad Pal
Pa Run Lad
Nu Rap Lad
Darn U Pal
Run Da Lap

312 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:39:45pm

re: #310 Gus 802

For sure. Not a big deal though. Just another moronic troll with nothing to say. Later DF.

And they ate up 300+ posts...we still knew they're full of shit, though.

313 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:40:21pm

I'm sorry, but if I was going to troll, I would go out with all guns blazing.

314 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:40:54pm

re: #278 Nimed

Hey, I remember that name. It's that dude that has such a low opinion of himself that he actually admits that his purpose in life is making you and a bunch of other people "waste precious minutes" (the implicit admission is that the minutes of his own life are not that valuable).

I think that guy may suffer from a mental disorder. Not kidding here.

MIGHT?

Yeah it was that part that made me think of him. Possum is actually the weakest gamma of the bunch. But honestly the running off was unlike him.

315 mikhailtheplumber  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:41:06pm

re: #313 tnguitarist

Maybe he wants to take it slow, you know?

316 darthstar  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:41:52pm

re: #313 tnguitarist

I'm sorry, but if I was going to troll, I would go out with all guns blazing.

Seriously...if you're going to troll, get to know the people you're trolling first, what makes them tick, and what ticks them off. Then pull out all the stops and be a mini-nova in cyber-space.

317 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:41:58pm

re: #312 talon_262

And they ate up 300+ posts...we still knew they're full of shit, though.

Right. And all it said repeatedly was something about an "echo chamber" but said nothing in the end. Serious lowlife territory with this troll.

318 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:42:06pm

re: #313 tnguitarist

I'm sorry, but if I was going to troll, I would go out with all guns blazing.

I think Possum or whomever doesn't want to blow the sock just yet.

319 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:42:42pm

re: #313 tnguitarist

I'm sorry, but if I was going to troll, I would go out with all guns blazing.

They think they're being smart by being assholish, but not completely over the top...the thing is, if Charles checks their IP, I suspect KFG will be found to be a sock of someone over at the Blog of the Damned.

320 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:43:07pm

re: #317 Gus 802

Right. And all it said repeatedly was something about an "echo chamber" but said nothing in the end. Serious lowlife territory with this troll.

You are right. I have to give a 5.1 out of 10 for the overall performance and he took serious penalty points on the dismount.

321 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:44:39pm

re: #293 austin_blue

My wife's folkloric group has a whole set of Spanish Sephardic tunes. Lovely stuff.

Are you familiar with Jordi Savall and Hesperioin XX?

322 mikhailtheplumber  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:44:41pm

Well, this individual part of our collective echo-chamber has a paper to write tomorrow.

A gute nakht, khaveyrim!

323 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:45:03pm

I just love Master Chef!

BTW, LVQ, have you seen The Secrets? Israeli film. Just saw it. Very cool. If you've been looking for a film about lesbian-curious yeshiva girls in Tsfat, this is the one to see.

324 darthstar  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:45:19pm

re: #317 Gus 802

Right. And all it said repeatedly was something about an "echo chamber" but said nothing in the end. Serious lowlife territory with this troll.

"echo chamber" is probably a new phrase to the person, and they wanted to try it out, but didn't realize it's a phrase that requires some sort of backing once used. Next time s/he's back, it'll be "America haters" or something like that. Still wearing the trolling wheels, I'm guessing.

325 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:45:29pm

re: #321 LudwigVanQuixote

Are you familiar with Jordi Savall and Hesperioin XX?

Voice of the Turtle, also very good, and Etty Ben Zaken.

326 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:45:35pm

re: #320 LudwigVanQuixote

You are right. I have to give a 5.1 out of 10 for the overall performance and he took serious penalty points on the dismount.

Never to return again no doubt.

327 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:45:37pm

re: #322 mikhailtheplumber

Well, this individual part of our collective echo-chamber has a paper to write tomorrow.

A gute nakht, khaveyrim!

A gute nakht.

328 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:45:59pm

re: #320 LudwigVanQuixote

You are right. I have to give a 5.1 out of 10 for the overall performance and he took serious penalty points on the dismount.

5.1? That's a 3.7 if I've ever seen one. Poor technique, clumsy out of the gate and a weak-kneed dismount.

329 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:46:15pm

re: #263 tnguitarist

How is American beer like having sex in a canoe?

Are you an Aussie philosopher?

330 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:46:25pm

re: #326 Gus 802

Never to return again no doubt.

Dunno. If it is Possum, I owed it more kicks. Last time it was here it foully insulted Jadespring.

331 Nimed  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:46:27pm

re: #314 LudwigVanQuixote

MIGHT?

Yeah it was that part that made me think of him. Possum is actually the weakest gamma of the bunch. But honestly the running off was unlike him.

Because he would normally "brag" about those minutes, I suppose. But wether this was him or not, I'm sort of serious of about the mental disorder part (in contrast to mere loathsome beliefs and general obsessive assholery).

332 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:47:05pm

re: #324 darthstar

"echo chamber" is probably a new phrase to the person, and they wanted to try it out, but didn't realize it's a phrase that requires some sort of backing once used. Next time s/he's back, it'll be "America haters" or something like that. Still wearing the trolling wheels, I'm guessing.

They really were trying it on for size, weren't they?

333 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:47:32pm

re: #324 darthstar

"echo chamber" is probably a new phrase to the person, and they wanted to try it out, but didn't realize it's a phrase that requires some sort of backing once used. Next time s/he's back, it'll be "America haters" or something like that. Still wearing the trolling wheels, I'm guessing.

Yeah. It's an echo chamber alright. That must be why I grind my teeth so many times that I'm thinking about sending Charles a bill. ;)

/

334 austin_blue  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:47:49pm

re: #310 Gus 802

For sure. Not a big deal though. Just another moronic troll with nothing to say. Later DF.

Yup, I'm out too. O Dark Thirty here in Austin, Still eighty degrees outside. Sauna time this summer. Last year it was dry as a bone, but blast furnace heat. And that's the difference between an El Nino summer and a developing La Nina summer in Central Texas.

I'm thinking Kung Flu Gripe will be back. I imagine it believes that its CyberAttack on The Lizardi was successful despite the fact that every entreaty to engage in substantive discussion was met with "Meh".

Slick little operator there. Not your average Wingnut. If I didn't know better, I would suspect the dreaded Nodrog, or its Evil Twin.

Sleep well, all. Play nice! And adios.

335 Nimed  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:48:03pm

re: #331 Nimed

pimf - whether.

336 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:48:18pm

re: #329 LudwigVanQuixote

Aussie Southern philosopher

337 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:49:17pm

re: #334 austin_blue

I think it was a recon mission.

338 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:49:41pm

re: #328 tnguitarist

5.1? That's a 3.7 if I've ever seen one. Poor technique, clumsy out of the gate and a weak-kneed dismount.

Especially since they racked themselves by stepping on their own dick...

339 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:50:11pm

re: #323 SanFranciscoZionist

I just love Master Chef!

BTW, LVQ, have you seen The Secrets? Israeli film. Just saw it. Very cool. If you've been looking for a film about lesbian-curious yeshiva girls in Tsfat, this is the one to see.

Ohh yes, that was a fascinating movie. In a way, it reminded me very much of Virgin Suicides. It was very atmospheric and very slow but inexorable in its movement. I have to confess that the portrayal of Haredim in the movie displays as much about Secular Israeli stereotypes of Haredim as it does about Haredim, and that bothered me a bit, but I rather liked the movie overall.

Speaking of Israeli films, have you seen Ushpizim?

340 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:50:50pm

re: #330 SanFranciscoZionist

Dunno. If it is Possum, I owed it more kicks. Last time it was here it foully insulted Jadespring.

Would you believe that possum is actually not the most vile one there?

341 Mocking Jay  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:51:02pm

Kung Fu grip in action.

342 joest73  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:51:41pm

I don't like Rand for some reason..... He gives me the same gut reaction I get when I see Al Gore.

Is the reporter talking about the busted fake tea partyer?

343 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:51:42pm

re: #341 JasonA

Never gets old.

344 Gus  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:52:09pm

re: #330 SanFranciscoZionist

Dunno. If it is Possum, I owed it more kicks. Last time it was here it foully insulted Jadespring.

You ever notice how they all have really weird nicknames?

345 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:52:12pm

re: #331 Nimed

Because he would normally "brag" about those minutes, I suppose. But wether this was him or not, I'm sort of serious of about the mental disorder part (in contrast to mere loathsome beliefs and general obsessive assholery).

Ohhh for certain. They are many of them borderline schizophrenic. The way they make things up is astonishing and the hateful paranoid dream world they inhabit could be the source of several psychology PhDs.

346 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:52:52pm

re: #339 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohh yes, that was a fascinating movie. In a way, it reminded me very much of Virgin Suicides. It was very atmospheric and very slow but inexorable in its movement. I have to confess that the portrayal of Haredim in the movie displays as much about Secular Israeli stereotypes of Haredim as it does about Haredim, and that bothered me a bit, but I rather liked the movie overall.

Speaking of Israeli films, have you seen Ushpizim?

Yes. Love it.

347 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:53:01pm

re: #340 LudwigVanQuixote

Would you believe that possum is actually not the most vile one there?

Oh, quite.

348 Mocking Jay  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:53:31pm

re: #343 tnguitarist

Never gets old.

I wish I could forget it, and relive that moment when I first watched this clip.

349 Nimed  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:55:48pm

re: #330 SanFranciscoZionist

re: #340 LudwigVanQuixote

Would you believe that possum is actually not the most vile one there?

You guys migh need this for the discussion.

350 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:55:58pm

re: #347 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, quite.

I hate to tell you by the way, but it seems I have regained the dubious honor of most hated lizard. They were trying to branch out an beat on you a bit, but the idea that a Jew or a Christian, can not view being kind to the impoverished or giving charity or doing acts of social justice, as optional, really pisses them off.

The nerve of God actually commanding them to be good and expecting people to listen just infuriates their sensibilities.

The irony of their holy war attitudes only makes it more amusing.

351 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:55:58pm

re: #348 JasonA

I wish I could forget it, and relive that moment when I first watched this clip.

I always loved how he looks like he is gonna brush it off, then.....

352 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:57:22pm

re: #341 JasonA

Kung Fu grip in action.


[Video]

That is a very Iron Fist level of ninja skills.

353 windsagio  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:57:29pm

re: #350 LudwigVanQuixote

I hate to tell you by the way, but it seems I have regained the dubious honor of most hated lizard. They were trying to branch out an beat on you a bit, but the idea that a Jew or a Christian, can not view being kind to the impoverished or giving charity or doing acts of social justice, as optional, really pisses them off.

The nerve of God actually commanding them to be good and expecting people to listen just infuriates their sensibilities.

The irony of their holy war attitudes only makes it more amusing.

What's a brother got to do to earn some hate? (not that I care >>)

354 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:58:07pm

re: #350 LudwigVanQuixote

I hate to tell you by the way, but it seems I have regained the dubious honor of most hated lizard. They were trying to branch out an beat on you a bit, but the idea that a Jew or a Christian, can not view being kind to the impoverished or giving charity or doing acts of social justice, as optional, really pisses them off.

The nerve of God actually commanding them to be good and expecting people to listen just infuriates their sensibilities.

The irony of their holy war attitudes only makes it more amusing.

Baffles me a bit. I can understand the stance that secular authorities cannot direct or enforce one's tzedakeh--I don't agree, but I get the concept. People who feel that they are not MORALLY obligated to be charitable, or to shield the vulnerable, and still think they are religious people confuse the hell out of me.

355 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:58:30pm

re: #350 LudwigVanQuixote

I hate to tell you by the way, but it seems I have regained the dubious honor of most hated lizard. They were trying to branch out an beat on you a bit, but the idea that a Jew or a Christian, can not view being kind to the impoverished or giving charity or doing acts of social justice, as optional, really pisses them off.

The nerve of God actually commanding them to be good and expecting people to listen just infuriates their sensibilities.

The irony of their holy war attitudes only makes it more amusing.

Anyway, I think I can stand not being the most hated lizard. You've worked hard for it!

356 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:58:50pm

re: #353 windsagio

What's a brother got to do to earn some hate? (not that I care >>)

Not that I care to occupy their every waking thought, but the denizens of the Blog of the Damned can shove it...

357 tnguitarist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:58:50pm

re: #350 LudwigVanQuixote

I hate to tell you by the way, but it seems I have regained the dubious honor of most hated lizard. They were trying to branch out an beat on you a bit, but the idea that a Jew or a Christian, can not view being kind to the impoverished or giving charity or doing acts of social justice, as optional, really pisses them off.

The nerve of God actually commanding them to be good and expecting people to listen just infuriates their sensibilities.

The irony of their holy war attitudes only makes it more amusing.

Reminds me of an ex-friend of mine. He says once you're saved, you're going to heaven. Doing good deeds is looked upon as trying to buy your way into heaven. Incidentally, he is a member of the Quayle family.

358 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:59:09pm

re: #354 SanFranciscoZionist

Baffles me a bit. I can understand the stance that secular authorities cannot direct or enforce one's tzedakeh--I don't agree, but I get the concept. People who feel that they are not MORALLY obligated to be charitable, or to shield the vulnerable, and still think they are religious people confuse the hell out of me.

They don't confuse me. They are called evil by the tradition.

What offends me though is that they claim to speak for us.

359 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 12, 2010 11:59:10pm

re: #350 LudwigVanQuixote

I hate to tell you by the way, but it seems I have regained the dubious honor of most hated lizard. They were trying to branch out an beat on you a bit, but the idea that a Jew or a Christian, can not view being kind to the impoverished or giving charity or doing acts of social justice, as optional, really pisses them off.

The nerve of God actually commanding them to be good and expecting people to listen just infuriates their sensibilities.

The irony of their holy war attitudes only makes it more amusing.

I have to say, my favorite character in The Secrets was the boy Michelle marries. The scene where he throws himself in front of her taxi was cute.

360 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:01:08am

re: #357 tnguitarist

Reminds me of an ex-friend of mine. He says once you're saved, you're going to heaven. Doing good deeds is looked upon as trying to buy your way into heaven. Incidentally, he is a member of the Quayle family.

Why am I not surprised. They really do see Christianity as a sin as much as you want and get out of jail free card. I probably should leave the full discussion of that to a Christian, but I can't imagine that the Christian view of such things is much different than our own.

361 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:02:34am

re: #355 SanFranciscoZionist

Anyway, I think I can stand not being the most hated lizard. You've worked hard for it!

Not really. I assure you that I don't write for them. I see them as a cross section of what I am fighting against though.

362 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:02:59am

re: #360 LudwigVanQuixote

Why am I not surprised. They really do see Christianity as a sin as much as you want and get out of jail free card. I probably should leave the full discussion of that to a Christian, but I can't imagine that the Christian view of such things is much different than our own.

It's really, really complicated. There are several completely different concepts about salvation operating within Christianity.

Myself, I prefer Father Guido Sarducci's approach, but you know...

363 Gus  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:03:27am

re: #353 windsagio

What's a brother got to do to earn some hate? (not that I care >>)

That's pretty easy. Just say that Slobodan Milošević or Augusto Pinochet were war criminals and genocidal maniacs.

364 windsagio  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:04:00am

re: #363 Gus 802

That's pretty easy. Just say that Slobodan Milošević or Augusto Pinochet were war criminals and genocidal maniacs.

Done and Done.

365 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:04:56am

re: #359 SanFranciscoZionist

I have to say, my favorite character in The Secrets was the boy Michelle marries. The scene where he throws himself in front of her taxi was cute.

Speaking of which, I had a great conversation with Miss. S. We are getting extremely serious.

Anyway she said the sweetest thing to me. We were talking about baby names and We agreed that we liked the name Abagail (Father's Joy) for a girl and Gabriel Elijah for a boy.

She said she thinks a son of mine needs to hate injustice and fight for the future from the start.

I really do love her.

366 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:05:04am

re: #360 LudwigVanQuixote

Why am I not surprised. They really do see Christianity as a sin as much as you want and get out of jail free card. I probably should leave the full discussion of that to a Christian, but I can't imagine that the Christian view of such things is much different than our own.

As a lapsed Methodist (leaning more towards deism), asking for forgiveness for your sins doesn't and shouldn't be treated as a reset button...by asking for forgiveness, you already know you're wrong and should be taking steps to curtail your sinning. Too often though, many do treat asking for forgiveness as a get-out-of-jail-free card.

Lord knows I try to do my best to improve myself...

367 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:05:15am

re: #360 LudwigVanQuixote

feh. Ok, my christianity is highly influenced by the epistle of James. He is, according to most authorities, the brother of the one I think of as my messiah. Good enough for me... ;) Both were good Jewish men. That also tells me a whole lot... :eek:

368 darthstar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:05:32am

Uh-oh...movie starting with 8-bit graphics in "virtual reality" world. This will keep me up for another couple of hours. 1992 - The Lawnmower Man. Right now, a chimp in a 3-D helmet has killed a guard, stolen his door key, and is going Doom on some...oh, never mind...Pierce Brosnan was just having a bad dream.

369 blueraven  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:05:49am

Goodnight all.

Please remember to keep albusteve in your thoughts and prayers for a successful surgery and speedy recovery. He will be in my thoughts tomorrow. Hope to see him back soon.

370 Gus  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:05:59am

I need to get horizontal. Night all.

371 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:06:13am

re: #369 blueraven

Goodnight all.

Please remember to keep albusteve in your thoughts and prayers for a successful surgery and speedy recovery. He will be in my thoughts tomorrow. Hope to see him back soon.

Amen to that...

372 tnguitarist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:06:40am

re: #368 darthstar

Uh-oh...movie starting with 8-bit graphics in "virtual reality" world. This will keep me up for another couple of hours. 1992 - The Lawnmower Man. Right now, a chimp in a 3-D helmet has killed a guard, stolen his door key, and is going Doom on some...oh, never mind...Pierce Brosnan was just having a bad dream.

The short story was better and not even close to the movie.

373 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:07:28am

re: #366 talon_262

As a lapsed Methodist (leaning more towards deism), asking for forgiveness for your sins doesn't and shouldn't be treated as a reset button...by asking for forgiveness, you already know you're wrong and should be taking steps to curtail your sinning. Too often though, many do treat asking for forgiveness as a get-out-of-jail-free card.

Lord knows I try to do my best to improve myself...

What you just said is exactly the view of it that Judaism has. The process of Tsuva (repentance) is just that.

Step one is asking forgiveness and resolving to change your ways. Step two is actually repairing the damage you have done as best you can. Step three is having the opportunity to make the same error and getting it right.

374 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:08:31am

re: #367 wlewisiii

feh. Ok, my christianity is highly influenced by the epistle of James. He is, according to most authorities, the brother of the one I think of as my messiah. Good enough for me... ;) Both were good Jewish men. That also tells me a whole lot... :eek:

eek?

That was a lovely post.

375 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:08:36am

re: #371 talon_262

Amen to that...

Amen. I'll take my knees and read the episcopal prayers for the sick in the morning for him. May the good one watch over him.

376 tnguitarist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:08:56am

re: #365 LudwigVanQuixote

We're doing the baby name thing right now. I'm at a loss. The family names have been used up. I would like something with a Irish/Scottish heritage.

377 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:09:35am

re: #365 LudwigVanQuixote

Speaking of which, I had a great conversation with Miss. S. We are getting extremely serious.

Anyway she said the sweetest thing to me. We were talking about baby names and We agreed that we liked the name Abagail (Father's Joy) for a girl and Gabriel Elijah for a boy.

She said she thinks a son of mine needs to hate injustice and fight for the future from the start.

I really do love her.

I approve!

378 freetoken  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:10:07am

Published tonight on the Orlando Fox nation:

Church members expected to burn Koran

The "pastor" is interviewed - highly recommend watching it to see how antagonistic that guy is.

He claims Jesus would burn the Koran.

379 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:10:24am

re: #377 SanFranciscoZionist

I approve!

Some good old-fashioned names that should never go out of style...

380 freetoken  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:10:41am

He's hurting for a fight, and has his gun with him.

381 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:10:46am

re: #377 SanFranciscoZionist

I approve!

re: #379 talon_262

Some good old-fashioned names that should never go out of style...

Thank you!

382 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:11:20am

re: #375 wlewisiii

Amen. I'll take my knees and read the episcopal prayers for the sick in the morning for him. May the good one watch over him.

Thanks for reminding me, and I'd also ask that you all, if you have a moment, pray for a good friend of mine whose kidneys are failing, and the mother of a friend, who is sick with pancreatic cancer and will probably leave us in the next few weeks.

383 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:12:02am

re: #376 tnguitarist

We're doing the baby name thing right now. I'm at a loss. The family names have been used up. I would like something with a Irish/Scottish heritage.

For a boy, right?

Do you favor something more anglicized, or with the traditional spelling?

384 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:12:08am

re: #376 tnguitarist

We're doing the baby name thing right now. I'm at a loss. The family names have been used up. I would like something with a Irish/Scottish heritage.

There are a lot of great sottish/Irish names. I confess I have always like the girl names like Kathleen and Sinead.

For boys, Duncan and Eric are just fabulous.

385 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:12:17am

re: #382 SanFranciscoZionist

Thanks for reminding me, and I'd also ask that you all, if you have a moment, pray for a good friend of mine whose kidneys are failing, and the mother of a friend, who is sick with pancreatic cancer and will probably leave us in the next few weeks.

Most definitely...throwing some good vibes to all who need them.

386 freetoken  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:13:30am

I wish Fox would show the entire video of their interview with him. I bet some real doozies are on the cutting floor.

387 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:13:47am

re: #383 SanFranciscoZionist

For a boy, right?

Do you favor something more anglicized, or with the traditional spelling?

I love names with twelve letter an four "y"s!

But I confess, I have had some students with names that are somewhat unfortunate in an American class.

388 tnguitarist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:14:15am

re: #383 SanFranciscoZionist

re: #384 LudwigVanQuixote

Yes, a boy. I like Gavin at the moment. I'm very flexible on spellings. My daughter's name is spelled Rebekka.

389 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:14:23am

re: #374 LudwigVanQuixote

eek?

That was a lovely post.

Eeek because it's hard as shit to live up to. I try. On a really great freaking day I get within a mile. Oy...

390 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:14:30am

re: #384 LudwigVanQuixote

There are a lot of great sottish/Irish names. I confess I have always like the girl names like Kathleen and Sinead.

For boys, Duncan and Eric are just fabulous.

Angus is always good...

391 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:14:53am

re: #369 blueraven

Goodnight all.

Please remember to keep albusteve in your thoughts and prayers for a successful surgery and speedy recovery. He will be in my thoughts tomorrow. Hope to see him back soon.

You wouldn't happen to know the name of his mom would you?

392 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:15:30am

re: #390 talon_262

Angus is always good...

If the lad is born with fluffy orange hair and is over 9 lbs sure!

393 tnguitarist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:16:03am

Btw, can anyone here tell me what lineage the surname Fleschute has?

394 tnguitarist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:16:42am

re: #392 LudwigVanQuixote

If the lad is born with fluffy orange hair and is over 9 lbs sure!

My wife is a flaming red head.

395 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:17:07am

re: #388 tnguitarist

re: #384 LudwigVanQuixote

Yes, a boy. I like Gavin at the moment. I'm very flexible on spellings. My daughter's name is spelled Rebekka.

Kieran is a nice Irish name that's not used too much in the States yet.

396 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:17:12am

re: #392 LudwigVanQuixote

If the lad is born with fluffy orange hair and is over 9 lbs sure!

HEEED!

/So I Married an Axe Murderer

397 tnguitarist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:17:58am

re: #396 talon_262

HEEED!

/So I Married an Axe Murderer

That theengs like Sputnik!

398 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:18:25am

re: #397 tnguitarist

That theengs like Sputnik!

It's like an aaarange on a toothpick!

399 tnguitarist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:18:47am

re: #395 SanFranciscoZionist

Kieran is a nice Irish name that's not used too much in the States yet.

Funny. That's very close to my wife's name.

400 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:18:49am

re: #397 tnguitarist

That theengs like Sputnik!

It has its own gravitational field!

401 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:19:17am

re: #382 SanFranciscoZionist

Thanks for reminding me, and I'd also ask that you all, if you have a moment, pray for a good friend of mine whose kidneys are failing, and the mother of a friend, who is sick with pancreatic cancer and will probably leave us in the next few weeks.

Amen, as well. Your friends are in my prayers as well.

402 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:20:37am

re: #398 SanFranciscoZionist

It's like an aaarange on a toothpick!

Oooh, that was offsides, wasn't it? Tonight he'll cry himself to sleep... on his huge pillow!

403 tnguitarist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:22:03am

re: #402 talon_262

Oooh, that was offsides, wasn't it? Tonight he'll cry himself to sleep... on his huge pillow!

What an underrated movie.

We've got a piper down!

404 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:22:08am

Well kung fu grip was definitely Possum BTW, The little fuck is bragging about his little adventure here. Do please flag all of his posts and recommend this to Charles so he can clean up in aisle four.

405 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:22:59am

re: #404 LudwigVanQuixote

Well kung fu grip was definitely Possum BTW, The little fuck is bragging about his little adventure here. Do please flag all of his posts and recommend this to Charles so he can clean up in aisle four.

Damn, you can spot them pretty good....

406 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:23:01am

re: #404 LudwigVanQuixote

Well kung fu grip was definitely Possum BTW, The little fuck is bragging about his little adventure here. Do please flag all of his posts and recommend this to Charles so he can clean up in aisle four.

Too weird for words.

407 windsagio  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:24:12am

re: #406 SanFranciscoZionist

Too weird for words.

I still do not get the LGF/Stalker vibe. Is it like a family thing?

408 tnguitarist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:24:14am

re: #404 LudwigVanQuixote

Well kung fu grip was definitely Possum BTW, The little fuck is bragging about his little adventure here. Do please flag all of his posts and recommend this to Charles so he can clean up in aisle four.

What's to brag about? It was lame.

409 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:24:37am

re: #405 talon_262

Damn, you can spot them pretty good...

Yeah he's a very specific kind of douche.

410 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:24:58am

re: #403 tnguitarist

What an underrated movie.

We've got a piper down!

I always love this exchange:

Stuart Mackenzie: Well, it's a well known fact, Sonny Jim, that there's a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, known as the Pentavirate, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as The Meadows.
Tony Giardino: So who's in this Pentavirate?
Stuart Mackenzie: The Queen, the Vatican, the Gettys, the Rothschilds, and Colonel Sanders before he went tets-up. Oh, I hated the Colonel with is wee beady eyes! And that smug look on his face, "Oh, you're gonna buy my chicken! Ohhhhh!"
Charlie Mackenzie: Dad, how can you hate the Colonel?
Stuart Mackenzie: Because he puts an addictive chemical in his chicken that makes ya crave it fortnightly, smartarse!
Charlie Mackenzie: Coo-coo.

411 tnguitarist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:26:32am

re: #410 talon_262

I always love this exchange:

Funny aside....I met the Colonel when I was a wee lad. My dad was a higher-up in the KFC chain.

412 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:26:36am

re: #408 tnguitarist

What's to brag about? It was lame.

It's the only justification that little gamma has in his meaningless life. He is so pathetic that he seeks the approval of betas by running over here and calling us names.

You have to seriously worry about it. He's like the little dweeb attached to the bully telling tales about how he called someone unpopular names and hoping the bully likes him.

Very 7th grade. I used to beat the bullies and the kids like him up two at a time.

413 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:27:14am

re: #407 windsagio

I still do not get the LGF/Stalker vibe. Is it like a family thing?

It's really hard to explain. They're obsessed with Charles to a degree that would be funny if it wasn't so completely whackazoid.

414 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:27:37am

re: #407 windsagio

I still do not get the LGF/Stalker vibe. Is it like a family thing?

In as much as they are an incestuous group of losers banding together for mutual reinforcement, sure its a family thing.

415 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:29:49am

re: #407 windsagio

I still do not get the LGF/Stalker vibe. Is it like a family thing?

Charles substitutes for Daddy and he kicked them to the curb after they showed their asses too much (or they flounce, in varying styles, usually bitterly)...they make it a point to tell Daddy how much they hate him every chance they get.

416 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:30:14am

Good night all. I have to crawl off before the boss decides it's time.

Thank you.

William

417 Nimed  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:31:22am

re: #407 windsagio

I still do not get the LGF/Stalker vibe. Is it like a family thing?

It's pretty weird for the people who never knew them. As to Possum, you may remember this particular guy, because he actually showed up in LGF a couple of times. Once was in that Jadespring thread, and once to say to Ludwig that he liked wasting minutes of his life. Pretty bizarre.

418 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:31:50am

re: #417 Nimed

It's pretty weird for the people who never knew them. As to Possum, you may remember this particular guy, because he actually showed up in LGF a couple of times. Once was in that Jadespring thread, and once to say to Ludwig that he liked wasting minutes of his life. Pretty bizarre.

There's that too...

419 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:32:15am

Well since you stalker guys are reading here, I've trashed snorks BS several times in my mini blog - why not read it.

Besides, I have no need to teach someone who can't do algebra science if they do not wish to learn. Fact is that I've dealt with him.

Ohh and Paul Revere guy, I enjoyed reading sarah lover beat you bitches like mules.

420 MittDoesNotCompute  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:33:10am

Definitely overdue for bed at this point...later, taters.

421 ClaudeMonet  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:35:40am

re: #185 boredtechindenver

K, you have all scared off SFZ. I wanted to show her the hideous bathroom and kitchen.

The kitchen isn't so bad, although the floor is a plain old wrong color. I like the table design but not the color.

There is no excuse for that bathroom. "Hideous" is an understatement.

re: #376 tnguitarist

We're doing the baby name thing right now. I'm at a loss. The family names have been used up. I would like something with a Irish/Scottish heritage.

IIRC, it's a boy, so I'll offer up--

Malcolm
Andrew
Sean

422 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:39:07am

re: #421 ClaudeMonet

The kitchen isn't so bad, although the floor is a plain old wrong color. I like the table design but not the color.

There is no excuse for that bathroom. "Hideous" is an understatement.

re: #376 tnguitarist

IIRC, it's a boy, so I'll offer up--

Malcolm
Andrew
Sean

One of the teachers at my school had his first this year, and they named him Milo.

They wanted M names. His grandpa is Mahmoud, but told them that for all intents and purposes he felt that Ahmedinejad had made the name unusable for an American baby.

423 tnguitarist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:40:20am

My 80-pound dog thinks it's ok to get in the bed with me. He's sweet but he snores like a chainsaw.

424 tnguitarist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:41:26am

re: #422 SanFranciscoZionist

Just no K's. Too many in the family already.

425 JamesWI  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:43:41am

I love the echo chamber talk from the troll. Apparently any site that doesn't think that Barack Obama is the "worst President ever!" (ala Ben Quayle) must be a Communist echo chamber. On this site, I see plenty of liberals who love Obama, and plenty of conservatives who think Obama is awful. One of the few places I can go where I can get an actual, rational debate with people I might disagree with. (As the disclaimer, I am a moderate lefty, who voted for neither candidate because I didn't think either had shown they would make a good President. Though the Palin VP pick definitely made me root harder for Obama)

426 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:53:21am

Actually, I just realized what the stalker blog reminds me of. Sorry, I was doing dishes, and it clicked. There's a children's book called The Against Taffy Sinclair Club, where a group of little girls form a club based on hating a pretty but snooty classmate of theirs who models.

That pretty much sums it up. Not that Charles is, in any way, like Taffy Sinclair, but the grade-school obsession with someone who you and your gang have decided to not like.

427 tnguitarist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:56:59am

Good night. I'm gonna crash if I can stop scratching this poison whatever long enough.

428 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 12:58:14am

re: #426 SanFranciscoZionist

Actually, I just realized what the stalker blog reminds me of. Sorry, I was doing dishes, and it clicked. There's a children's book called The Against Taffy Sinclair Club, where a group of little girls form a club based on hating a pretty but snooty classmate of theirs who models.

That pretty much sums it up. Not that Charles is, in any way, like Taffy Sinclair, but the grade-school obsession with someone who you and your gang have decided to not like.

The Rodent announced that he hopes that Israel of all nations uses nerve gas to kill every Shiite. I wish I were making that up.

Get that clear.

Not a single one of them objects.

And they call others Nazis.

How many Hot air readers, or RSM readers or just basic Fox listeners might agree with that?

When I wrote that NAzism is on the rise in America, I do not joke, and I never exaggerate about such a serious topic.

429 windsagio  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 1:14:40am

oops back, was playing SC2 with some friends :)

re: #417 Nimed

It's pretty weird for the people who never knew them.

Yeah that's just about it, different mindset about it if you didn't know them.

430 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 1:21:50am

Ohh and stalkers, I know that making things up is your fav pastime so take these statements to the bank and at least quote me properly when I say something.

I never said that AGW deniers should be exterminated. Most of you rank and file morons are too stupid to be held accountable for being misled. I said, that those in power who block AGW legislation, and create the anti-science propaganda are guilty of contributing to mass murder. I said that those corporate goons, and pet politicians should be tried for crimes against humanity and punished exactly like any other mass murderer would be punished.

I know that these monsters won't face justice in this world. But their crimes are severe. In a just world they will have to answer for them.

As to wannabe neo-confederates and neo-nazis who decide to rebel against America or to attempt to tear down this nation, if they do so, much like their Southern predecessors, they deserve the full and lethal attentions of the army.

431 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 1:24:46am

re: #407 windsagio

Oh the fan club :D

432 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 1:25:47am

Night all.

433 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 1:27:58am

re: #431 Windupbird

Oh the fan club :D

Yes possum just wrote that I should go an rape my soon to be fiancée because she wants it. They are beyond repulsive.

I really shouldn't give them any attention, but they are a good representation of the far right these days, and you and Nimed are curious about why these assholes were banned and why they are considered such scum.

434 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 1:28:46am

re: #432 SanFranciscoZionist

Night all.

Sleep well SFZ!

435 Nimed  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 1:31:54am

re: #431 Windupbird

Oh the fan club :D

Oh man, I freaking love that expression.

436 Artist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 1:32:15am

re: #369 blueraven

Goodnight all.

Please remember to keep albusteve in your thoughts and prayers for a successful surgery and speedy recovery. He will be in my thoughts tomorrow. Hope to see him back soon.

Whoa, what happened to him?

437 freetoken  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 1:38:06am
438 Nimed  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 1:39:11am

re: #433 LudwigVanQuixote

Yes possum just wrote that I should go an rape my soon to be fiancée because she wants it. They are beyond repulsive.

I really shouldn't give them any attention, but they are a good representation of the far right these days, and you and Nimed are curious about why these assholes were banned and why they are considered such scum.

Dude, just judging by the very small sample of direct experience (again, thinking of the Jadespring thread here), you're absolutely right. As to the disgusting comments, just close that tab. Really, all the fan club wants is your attention, and they'll say anything get it. Don't give it to them.

439 Nimed  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 1:44:15am

re: #436 SteelPH

Whoa, what happened to him?

He is having his leg surgery tomorrow.

440 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 1:44:23am

re: #435 Nimed

Oh man, I freaking love that expression.

Yeah its a real blessing that Charles took the time to police his blog and purge them. They do nothing but befoul anyplace that they are.

They used to make this place very difficult.

I remember thread after thread of fighting with a lot of them. In many ways they are just repugnant children out to cause as much anonymous grief as possible. It is amazing how much the anonymity of the web makes them feel it is acceptable to be so monstrously rude, uncouth and uneducated.

They say things that in the real world would get them laid out. And I suppose the "freedom" of being that "brave" from the safety of their little computer rooms allows them to imagine that they have some sort of manhood or purpose.

Can you imagine what would happen in the real world if someone like the possum suggested something vile like raping a man's woman to his face? Provided he wasn't killed, I doubt a jury in America would convict over anything that happened to him. And you know this is just some little dweeb with the real world physical prowess of a piece of toast.

Of course he is. He wouldn't be so insecure otherwise. He always was the little gamma of their pack.

441 Artist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 1:45:09am

re: #439 Nimed

He is having his leg surgery tomorrow.

Ah I see.

I wish him well.

442 windsagio  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 1:49:37am

re: #440 LudwigVanQuixote

The amazing thing is the people who believe what they do, but hold on for what are presumably social reasons.

443 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 1:51:29am

re: #438 Nimed

Dude, just judging by the very small sample of direct experience (again, thinking of the Jadespring thread here), you're absolutely right. As to the disgusting comments, just close that tab. Really, all the fan club wants is your attention, and they'll say anything get it. Don't give it to them.

Ohh dude the tab is long closed. I go there, because like I said, they are like a zoo exhibit of the right wingnuts. Right, this is the reality of what the teabaggs are.

Conspiracy theories and prejudice always come from feelings of fear, helplessness and powerlessness. These are all pathetic betas. It is because of that that they seek all sorts of payback and it is because of that that truly evil leaders can take advantage of them and perhaps threaten everything we hold dear.

Nazis were also always bullies who fought from cowardice and numbers. For my entire life, I have wondered how Germany could sink so low, what the process was. I see it in America today. Behold the little sniveling brown shirts who are feeling that their imaginary testicles are dropping.

444 freetoken  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 1:54:46am

re: #438 Nimed

Really, all the fan club wants is your attention, and they'll say anything get it. Don't give it to them.

No doubt about it, and I for one refuse them the privilege of appearing before my eyeballs.

But, OTOH, Aki-chan can have all of my attention...

445 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 1:55:44am

re: #444 freetoken

No doubt about it, and I for one refuse them the privilege of appearing before my eyeballs.

But, OTOH, Aki-chan can have all of my attention...

Wow! I appreciate your very fine taste.

446 freetoken  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 2:00:38am

re: #445 LudwigVanQuixote

Aki-chan does have her charms, though Kana still rules.

447 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 2:04:10am

re: #446 freetoken

Aki-chan does have her charms, though Kana still rules.

Again fabulous, but I have to say I ever so slightly prefer aki.

448 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 2:05:14am

re: #446 freetoken

Aki-chan does have her charms, though Kana still rules.

Women... God saved the best for last.

449 freetoken  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 2:08:38am

re: #447 LudwigVanQuixote

Again fabulous, but I have to say I ever so slightly prefer aki.

Aki has a sort of childish cuteness remaining (hard when one is a pin-up idol), which is why I called her Aki-chan ("chan" being a replacement for "san" when speaking of children). As for the art of seduction, though, Kana is a true master.

450 Nimed  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 2:09:05am

re: #443 LudwigVanQuixote

Ok, but certainly you see the cycle here. They know you go there, so they will write deliberately provocative stuff, you get outraged and respond, etc.

If you wish to keep up with extreme right-wing trash, it's not like there aren't a bunch of other sites with basically the same type of weirdos, more traffic, and who don't engage in personal attacks directed specifically to you.

451 freetoken  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 2:09:47am

re: #448 LudwigVanQuixote

Women... God saved the best for last.

I've met many women who have made my world better. There are a few though...

452 Nimed  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 2:15:19am
453 freetoken  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 2:18:00am
454 laZardo  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 2:28:13am

On 'Progressives' and 'Conservatives' by Hwang Jang Yop, the former party secretary that defected from North Korea and whom Kim Jong-Il later tried to assassinate.

The democratic line of justice is not progressive, conservative, left-wing or right-wing. It is a fair line which meets commonly the needs of the people, social development, and global citizens.

SNIP

455 Taqyia2Me  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 3:14:01am

Thoughts and prayers go out to Lizard albusteve today for a successful surgery and a complete and speedy recovery.

456 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 3:15:48am

re: #455 Taqyia2Me

Thoughts and prayers go out to Lizard albusteve today for a successful surgery and a complete and speedy recovery.

Dig.

457 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 3:39:00am

It is Friday the 13th. Prepare to die. Of you'll get a little prickly in you finger!! Choose now!!

458 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 3:41:36am

re: #457 Cannadian Club Akbar

It is Friday the 13th. Prepare to die. Of you'll get a little prickly in you finger!! Choose now!!

Some people always have little pricks in their fingers. Heh.

459 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 3:44:25am

My morning news sucks. Let's listen to this instead.

460 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 3:58:11am

re: #459 Cannadian Club Akbar

Better than the news.

461 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 3:59:21am

re: #460 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Better than the news.

I'm beginning to hate my local radio.

462 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 4:00:04am

re: #433 LudwigVanQuixote

Yes possum just wrote that I should go an rape my soon to be fiancée because she wants it. They are beyond repulsive.

I really shouldn't give them any attention, but they are a good representation of the far right these days, and you and Nimed are curious about why these assholes were banned and why they are considered such scum.

Oh I know why they were banned, but talking about them just encourages them.

The patterns of behavior in comments on political blogs is a lot different than the places I come from

463 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 4:00:47am

re: #461 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm beginning to hate my local radio.

I hate my local Portland radio, but I love my local Portland internet podcasts. Radio is dead, long live radio!

464 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 4:02:12am

re: #463 windupbird

I hate my local Portland radio, but I love my local Portland internet podcasts. Radio is dead, long live radio!

My local radio lets people call in and talk. Idiots.

465 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 4:07:52am

I am just on a Led Zeppelin kick this morning.

466 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 4:17:28am

Or let's try this. Lucia.

467 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 4:23:26am

re: #466 Cannadian Club Akbar

Fucking brilliant.

468 Taqyia2Me  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 4:24:49am

re: #464 Cannadian Club Akbar

My local radio lets people call in and talk. Idiots.

Same here, Friday a.m. is Butthead of the Week day.

469 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 4:37:26am

This just fucking rocks.

470 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 4:46:50am

This weekend...
[Link: moaablogs.org...]

471 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 5:19:20am

Triskaidekaphobia... I ain't scared.

472 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 5:34:40am
AP Iran reactor to be fueled Aug. 21
By JPOST.COM STAFF AND ASSOCIATED PRESS
08/13/2010 13:40
Report: Russia will load fuel into nuclear reactor at Bushehr station.
Russia has announced that it will start loading uranium fuel into the nuclear reactor of the Bushehr nuclear power station in Iran on August 21, a spokesman for Russia's state atomic cooperation reportedly told Reuters Friday.
...
The United States has called for Russia to delay the startup until Iran proves that it's not developing nuclear weapons. Russian officials said that the latest UN sanctions against Iran won't affect the Bushehr project.

Russian officials said that Iran had signed a pledge to ship all the spent uranium fuel from Bushehr back to Russia for reprocessing, excluding a possibility that any of it could used to make nuclear weapons.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Oh good, the crazy Islamofascist swine "signed a pledge". No need to worry, then.

473 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 6:02:09am

re: #465 Cannadian Club Akbar

I am just on a Led Zeppelin kick this morning.

The Zep is playing in Park City , Utah tomm.. night!
Sold out I think!

474 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 6:05:35am

re: #472 Spare O'Lake

I would have been very concerned had they not agreed to sign the pledge.

475 IngisKahn  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 6:06:47am

re: #109 windsagio

I'm curious what the last characters that ASCII ate were supposed to add to that sentence... 'please'?

&30340 is "的", looks like a web translation of "Go fuck yourself". It reads literally "You (to) yourself go, damn it."

476 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 6:07:56am
"If I am proved correct the Germans will call me a German,
the Swiss will call me a Swiss citizen, and the French will call me a
great scientist."
"If relativity is proved wrong, the French will call me a Swiss, the
Swiss will call me a German, and the Germans will call me a Jew".
- Albert Einstein

The serial stabber, identified in the MSM only as an Israeli citizen, is an Arab non-Jew, by the way.

477 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 6:12:03am

re: #476 Spare O'Lake

The serial stabber, identified in the MSM only as an Israeli citizen, is an Arab non-Jew, by the way.

I caught that when they named him....I thought..WTF?
Israeli my ass
Might be going to Israel but that's a Pali name.

478 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 6:12:39am

re: #476 Spare O'Lake

The serial stabber, identified in the MSM only as an Israeli citizen, is an Arab non-Jew, by the way.

"He's a nut!"
-Barney Fife

479 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 6:15:07am

re: #476 Spare O'Lake

re: #477 reloadingisnotahobby

An Arab non-Muslim, also, IIRC.

Didn't I see that he was Catholic.

Don't matter anyway, he's a nut.

480 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 6:16:28am

re: #479 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

...I can't tell the diff only hearing the name...
I'z un educamaated...
Morning FBV

481 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 6:17:29am

Time to "Loose the Hounds"...
BBL

482 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 6:17:37am

re: #474 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I would have been very concerned had they not agreed to sign the pledge.

CONCERN TROLL 1!!!1

483 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 6:18:13am

re: #482 Spare O'Lake

Well... he's concerned...

bbl

484 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 6:21:55am

re: #477 reloadingisnotahobby

I caught that when they named him...I thought..WTF?
Israeli my ass
Might be going to Israel but that's a Pali name.

Israeli Christian Arab - tough combo!

485 McSpiff  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 6:22:37am

re: #484 Spare O'Lake

If there was ever an appropriate use for the label "Middle Eastern" ...

486 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 6:32:25am

Howdy folks!

:) TGIF

487 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 6:35:23am

re: #450 Nimed

Ok, but certainly you see the cycle here. They know you go there, so they will write deliberately provocative stuff, you get outraged and respond, etc.

If you wish to keep up with extreme right-wing trash, it's not like there aren't a bunch of other sites with basically the same type of weirdos, more traffic, and who don't engage in personal attacks directed specifically to you.

Imitation Libel is the sincerest form of flattery.

488 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 6:40:44am

re: #479 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #477 reloadingisnotahobby

An Arab non-Muslim, also, IIRC.

Didn't I see that he was Catholic.

Don't matter anyway, he's a nut.

No connection to terrorism.

Just your typical random stabber.

489 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 6:42:26am

Dammit, i always go to bed before the troll roast...good morning, all!

490 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 6:44:13am

Meet Iran's Jon Stewart: Parazit's Sharp Cuts


Kambiz Hosseini states that he has "no patience for ta'rouf." He states it very emphatically.

In his book The Ayatollah Begs to Differ, Hooman Majd explains that ta'rouf is "a defining Persian characteristic that includes the practice, often infuriating, of small talk, or frustratingly and sometimes incomprehensible back-and-forth niceties." Hosseini, host of the weekly satiric show Parazit on Voice of America's Persian News Network (PNN), is having none of it.

It is hardly necessary for Hosseini to declare his position with such vehemence. In the interview segment of Parazit, the show he co-created with Saman Arbabi, his lack of patience for ta'rouf is unmistakable.

Hosseini once asked his VOA boss if he was an agent of the Islamic Republic. He asked Iranian gay rights activist Arsham Parsi if this was really the time to push for homosexual rights. He asked human rights activist and former CNN anchor Rudi Bakhtiar if she had stated that Ahmadinejad has many followers out of fear that otherwise she would lose access to Iran. He got into a spat with journalist Masih Alinejad about an article that wasn't published on a Green Movement website -- the more Alinejad insisted that the matter was trivial, the more Hosseini insisted that in fact it was vital and that "the people have the right to know."

All this and more has been heard on a program pitched as comedy. Parazit is billed as the show for those who "don't have the patience for news...and all news is bad news." It declares that it is brought to its listeners by the "servants of Mossad and the CIA" to "tickle the foundations of power."

All ta'rouf aside, Hosseini and Arbabi have created a popular and relevant show that has brought Iran's self-mythologizing personalities down to earth with one common denominator -- humor. Hosseini and Arbabi are smartasses, but every episode of Parazit reminds its audience that in order to be a smartass you first have to be smart.

491 What, me worry?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 6:45:36am

Morning lizards!

What a clever and original fellow Mr. Kung Fu is. Looks like he got the booby prize.

What an echo chamber this is, because, you know, we never have a difference of opinion LOL The only difference of opinion the stalkers have, btw, is when one of them says to stop bitching about Charles already! And then the rest try to justify why they're spending 2 years of their lives and every waking breath obsessing about this place. I would think it sad if I didn't find them such pathetic losers.

Btw, anyone have a hot line to Steve and how he's doing or maybe later on this afternoon?

492 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 6:48:57am

re: #491 marjoriemoon

Morning lizards!

What a clever and original fellow Mr. Kung Fu is. Looks like he got the booby prize.

What an echo chamber this is, because, you know, we never have a difference of opinion LOL The only difference of opinion the stalkers have, btw, is when one of them says to stop bitching about Charles already! And then the rest try to justify why they're spending 2 years of their lives and every waking breath obsessing about this place. I would think it sad if I didn't find them such pathetic losers.

Btw, anyone have a hot line to Steve and how he's doing or maybe later on this afternoon?

yeah, between being called a bigot and a spewer of conservative talking points who is enamored with the power of my phallus yesterday, the echoes almost deafened me!

(all in good fun, though...no harm done)

Walter has the hotline to Steve. In the meantime, i'm praying for him, regardless of his general disaffection for faith-based action;)

493 Varek Raith  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:02:31am

Someone's kung fu was weaksuace.
Morning.

494 What, me worry?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:04:17am

re: #492 Aceofwhat?

yeah, between being called a bigot and a spewer of conservative talking points who is enamored with the power of my phallus yesterday, the echoes almost deafened me!

(all in good fun, though...no harm done)

Walter has the hotline to Steve. In the meantime, i'm praying for him, regardless of his general disaffection for faith-based action;)

I thought all men were enamored at the power of their phallus! It's just a given.

They went after me again the other day, again deliberately misquoting me to make their point. Such liars.

Steve will appreciate the good wishes, in whatever form they come, I'm sure :)

495 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:04:38am

re: #493 Varek Raith

Someone's kung fu was weaksuace.
Morning.

good trolls are hard to find these days...

496 What, me worry?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:06:01am

Ok, just a drive by. I'll pop in later ya'll.

497 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:06:45am

re: #494 marjoriemoon

I thought all men were enamored at the power of their phallus! It's just a given.

nah...it's the dumbest part of me...it's not power, it's a control mechanism/

498 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:20:43am

Chef Found Dead In Girlfriend's Freezer

The days turned into years for the owner of the Bistro De Leon restaurant in St. Augustine. Chef Jean Poinard wanted nothing more than to speak to his father, 71-year-old Jean-Francois Poinard, in France.

But police in France said Jean-Francois Poinard was found dead in his girlfriend's freezer, curled up in the fetal position, wrapped in plastic bags.

He'd been there for two years.

499 reine.de.tout  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:23:42am

re: #492 Aceofwhat?

yeah, between being called a bigot and a spewer of conservative talking points who is enamored with the power of my phallus yesterday, the echoes almost deafened me!

(all in good fun, though...no harm done)

Walter has the hotline to Steve. In the meantime, i'm praying for him, regardless of his general disaffection for faith-based action;)

I'm praying for him, too.

As to you being a bigot, etc. - I think sometimes people's emotions get overheated. And that includes myself at times. I try to look at each and every new thread as sort of a "new day" all of its own so stuff doesn't carry over.

500 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:33:57am

re: #499 reine.de.tout

I'm praying for him, too.

As to you being a bigot, etc. - I think sometimes people's emotions get overheated. And that includes myself at times. I try to look at each and every new thread as sort of a "new day" all of its own so stuff doesn't carry over.

me too. i'm chuckling over it, especially my timely proof that we aren't exactly an echo chamber around here!

501 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:35:56am

re: #498 NJDhockeyfan

Chef Found Dead In Girlfriend's Freezer

I might have some chicken nuggets older than that.

502 deranged cat  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:36:11am

re: #493 Varek Raith

Someone's kung fu was weaksuace.
Morning.

you know, i'd prefer kung fu's weaksauce than...

"all you libs better watch out!!!....november is going to be a reckoning for all you dumb-ocrats!!...the american people have spoken...vote the bums out...TEA PARTY! derp de der!"
503 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:36:17am

re: #501 MandyManners

*whack*

504 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:40:02am

re: #503 MandyManners

*whack*

can't get anyone else to spank you?

//

505 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:40:36am

re: #501

{{{Mandy}}}

506 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:50:04am

I just ate a giant cup of applesauce. Man, we really forget what it is to be a kid, huh?

507 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:52:55am

Langley granny used live grenade as paperweight

We all know grandma’s place can get overstuffed with knick-knacks and tokens from the past, but one Langley granny seems to have taken it too far — by using a live hand grenade for a paperweight.

Whether she was stocking up for Armageddon or just liked how the light reflected off the metal casing will never been known. Police say they’re just glad they removed the weapon before it went off.

RCMP Cpl. Holly Marks said members of Navy Bomb Disposal Team attended the elderly woman’s unit in an unnamed Langley senior’s facility on July 26 after family members stumbled across the grenade.

Marks said the family was helping elderly woman, who is in her late 90s, move from the facility into hospice care. The grenade was apparently being used as a paper weight. Also found were two live rounds of ammunition.

Neither the woman’s family or police have any idea how the mini-arsenal found its way into her unit, Marks said. All three items were removed from the facility and were to be destroyed.

508 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:54:40am

Tomorrow is The Kid's first scrimmage game and some of these parents are turning it into a situation worthy of a PAC-10 game. From trays and trays of fruit and gallons of Gatorade and water (with lemon slicee) to that flavored water, to a spread of meats, veggies, barbecue and every kind of bread imaginable, they're going ga-ga. (Yes, I'm guilty, too.) But, really. This is just a scrimmage game. What's homecoming gonna' be like? Catering by Chez Maison and the Rolling Stones for half-time?!

509 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:54:41am

re: #507 NJDhockeyfan

Don't fuck with my grandma when she's been drinking.
/

510 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:54:56am

re: #504 Aceofwhat?

'Sup with you?

511 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:55:17am

re: #508 MandyManners

Can I come?

512 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:55:26am

re: #505 NJDhockeyfan

{{{Mandy}}}

(((NJD)))

How are you feeling lately?

513 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:55:44am

re: #508 MandyManners

Tomorrow is The Kid's first scrimmage game and some of these parents are turning it into a situation worthy of a PAC-10 game. From trays and trays of fruit and gallons of Gatorade and water (with lemon slicee) to that flavored water, to a spread of meats, veggies, barbecue and every kind of bread imaginable, they're going ga-ga. (Yes, I'm guilty, too.) But, really. This is just a scrimmage game. What's homecoming gonna' be like? Catering by Chez Maison and the Rolling Stones for half-time?!

Very cool!

514 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:55:49am

re: #506 Cannadian Club Akbar

I just ate a giant cup of applesauce. Man, we really forget what it is to be a kid, huh?

Just don't flick boogers all over the wall.

515 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:56:46am

re: #512 MandyManners

(((NJD)))

How are you feeling lately?

Better every day. I'm going to NJ later and coming back next week. It will be nice to go back home for a few days.

516 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:57:03am

re: #514 MandyManners

Just don't flick boogers all over the wall.

I thought you wiped them under the chair. Am I doing it wrong?
/

517 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:57:25am

re: #507 NJDhockeyfan

Langley granny used live grenade as paperweight

What? No Uzi?

518 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:58:05am

re: #511 Cannadian Club Akbar

Can I come?

You can tote the gear bag while I carry a few trays.

519 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:58:38am

re: #513 NJDhockeyfan

Very cool!

My mind gets boggled rarely these days but, it's boggled now.

520 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:58:51am

re: #510 MandyManners

'Sup with you?

been busy! how excited is the Kid to get on the field and knock some people around?

521 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:59:05am

re: #515 NJDhockeyfan

Better every day. I'm going to NJ later and coming back next week. It will be nice to go back home for a few days.

Where are you now? (Yes, I've missed something.)

522 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:59:08am

re: #518 MandyManners

You can tote the gear bag while I carry a few trays.

Deal. And I can throw down the BBQ if needed.

523 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:59:34am

re: #516 Cannadian Club Akbar

I thought you wiped them under the chair. Am I doing it wrong?
/

No. You stick *gum* under the chair.

524 RadicalModerate  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:00:22am

re: #476 Spare O'Lake

The serial stabber, identified in the MSM only as an Israeli citizen, is an Arab non-Jew, by the way.

Arrgh. This again. Didn't you read the discussion from yesterday's thread where this got covered?

Started with this post, scroll down to see the conversation.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

The claim that Abuelazam is a "Palestinian Arab" came from Debbie Schlussel, and the assertion was repeated at the fever swamp yesterday.
Other rightwing blogs (Brietbart, HotAir, etc) have picked up on the claim and are repeating Schlussel's story.

2nd link down on this cached image:
[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

From the JPost article that was cited, the only statement that was made regarding his ethnicity was this:


Abuelazam was reported to be a Christian man from Ramle, where he lived with his divorced mother and several uncles.

This is the latest update from JPost, and still says nothing about him being an Arab or Palestinian.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

By the way, white supremacist sites are now labeling Abuelazam as a "hero" since a majority of his victims were African-Americans.

This one comes from one called "The wandering white" (no google cache, so no link, but it's the first hit on a google search for "Elias Abuelazam hero").
Given his thinly veiled threat to President Obama, I'm forwarding the link to the hosting site's administrators.


Elias Abuelazam, a heroic Israeli Arab (probably Greek Orthodox), has set an example that right-thinking people should follow all over the world. Faced with intractable populations of increasingly dominant, malicious negroes in nations dominated by state-enforced political correctness, cultural Marxist lynch-mob justice, and nearly universal lack of state respect for property rights, whites should take the intiative and resist negro oppression to the fullest extent possible.

Weapons of mass destruction should not be ruled out: The prospect of a nuclear weapon killing Islamic Communist mulatto Hussein Obongo and his globalist American federal government lapdogs should delight anyone unwilling to travel the road to serfdom with the united negro and mulatto kleptocrats and Marxo-Keynesians of the world.

Elias Abuelazam, I salute you!
Posted by The Wandering White at 12:20 PM

One more note: The Google search also returned hits on Brietbart's site a few links down, where some readers there were also calling Abuelazam a hero.

525 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:00:38am

re: #523 MandyManners

No. You stick *gum* under the chair.

But, but, you chew both first, right?
/yukky

526 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:01:42am

re: #521 MandyManners

Where are you now? (Yes, I've missed something.)

I live in Virginia.

BTW, last night Cato said I was 'a card-carrying member of the Mandy Mob.' Where's my damn card?

527 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:02:34am

re: #520 Aceofwhat?

been busy! how excited is the Kid to get on the field and knock some people around?

Thrilled to pieces. He may be one of the youngest and smallest players but, he loves to stomp butt, and he's very good at it.

You know, if Karl Marx had ever attended games such as these, he'd never have thought we could equalize everyone and wipe out war. Fact: humans are violent, and their drive to dominate is instinctive.

528 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:02:57am

re: #522 Cannadian Club Akbar

Deal. And I can throw down the BBQ if needed.

Catered.

529 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:02:59am

re: #526 NJDhockeyfan

I live in Virginia.

BTW, last night Cato said I was 'a card-carrying member of the Mandy Mob.' Where's my damn card?

I have mine. It's cool. She's topless.

530 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:03:50am

re: #525 Cannadian Club Akbar

But, but, you chew both first, right?
/yukky

eeewww

532 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:04:30am

re: #526 NJDhockeyfan

I live in Virginia.

BTW, last night Cato said I was 'a card-carrying member of the Mandy Mob.' Where's my damn card?

I have a mob?

Oh, dear. Gotta' go make sure I have enough Basil Hayden's to go around.

533 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:04:36am

re: #529 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have mine. It's cool. She's topless.

Woo Hoo! Go Mandy!

534 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:05:19am

re: #524 RadicalModerate


Given his thinly veiled threat to President Obama, I'm forwarding the link to the hosting site's administrators.

One more note: The Google search also returned hits on Brietbart's site a few links down, where some readers there were also calling Abuelazam a hero.

wow that was ugly. i mean, that was nauseatingly hateful...i know that people think like the poster you quoted, but when you see the actual words...ugh. thanks for venturing into the sewer to dredge that out.

535 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:07:54am

re: #527 MandyManners

Thrilled to pieces. He may be one of the youngest and smallest players but, he loves to stomp butt, and he's very good at it.

You know, if Karl Marx had ever attended games such as these, he'd never have thought we could equalize everyone and wipe out war. Fact: humans are violent, and their drive to dominate is instinctive.

That's what is great about sports. Fitness+ a safe outlet for aggression so that we can be more productive and cooperative during other activities!

Mens sana in corpore sano, right?

536 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:08:16am

re: #531 Killgore Trout

Epic meltdown...
Anderson Cooper Grills Shouting GOPer Louie Gohmert On 'Terror Babies' Conspiracy (VIDEO)

OMG. He didn't even make it 1 second before going off.

537 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:09:08am

re: #535 Aceofwhat?

That's what is great about sports. Fitness+ a safe outlet for aggression so that we can be more productive and cooperative during other activities!

Mens sana in corpore sano, right?

Or we could drink and smoke cigarettes.
/

538 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:13:35am

re: #531 Killgore Trout

Epic meltdown...
Anderson Cooper Grills Shouting GOPer Louie Gohmert On 'Terror Babies' Conspiracy (VIDEO)

every time i think i can't be more embarrassed about Republicans...sheesh. where do we find these people??

*kicks rock sullenly*

539 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:13:54am

re: #537 Cannadian Club Akbar

Or we could drink and smoke cigarettes.
/

that's after. these things aren't mutually exclusive/

540 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:14:15am

re: #535 Aceofwhat?

That's what is great about sports. Fitness+ a safe outlet for aggression so that we can be more productive and cooperative during other activities!

Mens sana in corpore sano, right?

You talking dirty to me again?

541 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:14:26am

re: #538 Aceofwhat?

every time i think i can't be more embarrassed about Republicans...sheesh. where do we find these people??

*kicks rock sullenly*

2 words. Rick Scott. Go Alex!!

542 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:15:08am

re: #541 Cannadian Club Akbar

2 words. Rick Scott. Go Alex!!

Ouch. Yeah.

543 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:17:02am

re: #540 MandyManners

You talking dirty to me again?

no, but i can switch to French if you're feeling adventurous/

544 RadicalModerate  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:20:16am

Turned on morning news programs today and they're all over the Laura Schlessinger story where she dropped about a dozen n-bombs on her radio program in one segment.

As bad as I thought of her tossing the word around like it was nothing, I was far more disturbed by her ending statement to the caller:
"If you're that hypersensitive about color and don't have a sense of humor, don't marry out of your race."

Apparently Loving v Virginia has little to no meaning for Dr. Schlessinger.

545 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:23:04am

re: #544 RadicalModerate

Apparently Loving v Virginia has little to no meaning for Dr. Schlessinger.

Yeah, some of us came across that rant of hers the other day. Insanity.

546 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:23:32am

re: #544 RadicalModerate

As bad as I thought of her tossing the word around like it was nothing, I was far more disturbed by her ending statement to the caller:
"If you're that hypersensitive about color and don't have a sense of humor, don't marry out of your race."


Agreed. I think her other statements excluding the N word were bad enough. It was a pretty ugly rant but it seems to be what a lot of conservatives believe these days.

547 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:23:57am

re: #544 RadicalModerate

I personally love Redbones.

548 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:24:03am

re: #543 Aceofwhat?

no, but i can switch to French if you're feeling adventurous/

Trish!

549 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:24:04am

re: #544 RadicalModerate

Turned on morning news programs today and they're all over the Laura Schlessinger story where she dropped about a dozen n-bombs on her radio program in one segment.

As bad as I thought of her tossing the word around like it was nothing, I was far more disturbed by her ending statement to the caller:
"If you're that hypersensitive about color and don't have a sense of humor, don't marry out of your race."

Apparently Loving v Virginia has little to no meaning for Dr. Schlessinger.

Why is this ranting bitch still on the air? She got so obnoxious years ago that radio stations moved her show to the "Overnight slot." I'm surprised that she hasn't been dumped altogether.

550 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:27:48am

re: #544 RadicalModerate

Turned on morning news programs today and they're all over the Laura Schlessinger story where she dropped about a dozen n-bombs on her radio program in one segment.

As bad as I thought of her tossing the word around like it was nothing, I was far more disturbed by her ending statement to the caller:
"If you're that hypersensitive about color and don't have a sense of humor, don't marry out of your race."

Apparently Loving v Virginia has little to no meaning for Dr. Schlessinger.

I doubt she'd like it if someone started tossing around slurs about her ethnicity!

551 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:29:14am

re: #549 Alouette

Why is this ranting bitch still on the air? She got so obnoxious years ago that radio stations moved her show to the "Overnight slot." I'm surprised that she hasn't been dumped altogether.

And, how does having a PhD on diabetic rats give her any insight about relationships?

552 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:30:31am

re: #551 MandyManners

And, how does having a PhD on diabetic rats give her any insight about relationships?

I don't know. Ask Michael Savage.

553 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:31:20am

re: #552 Alouette

I don't know. Ask Michael Savage.

That guy is a fucking raving loon.

554 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:32:46am

re: #551 MandyManners

And, how does having a PhD on diabetic rats give her any insight about relationships?

I have no PHD. But, kiss soft, hug strong, support always.

555 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:34:32am

re: #553 Cannadian Club Akbar

That guy is a fucking raving loon.

truer words were never spoken...

556 deranged cat  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:35:21am

re: #531 Killgore Trout

Epic meltdown...
Anderson Cooper Grills Shouting GOPer Louie Gohmert On 'Terror Babies' Conspiracy (VIDEO)

He's an actual real life troll. I tried for a few minutes to write a small paragraph explaining why he's so troll'yl, but i think it's better if you just watch the video. he melts down right after the first question is asked.

557 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:35:36am

re: #544 RadicalModerate

I was reading about this on another site, and someone there mentioned this (which I hadn't even known about):

Meet Deryk Schlessinger

The soldier son of talk radio relationship counselor Laura Schlessinger is under investigation for a graphic personal Web page that one Army official has called “repulsive.” The MySpace page, publicly available until Friday when it disappeared from the Internet, included cartoon depictions of rape, murder, torture and child molestation; photographs of soldiers with guns in their mouths; a photograph of a bound and blindfolded detainee captioned “My Sweet Little Habib”; accounts of illicit drug use; and a blog entry headlined by a series of obscenities and racial epithets.

Yep, she's her "kid's mom" all right... 9_9

558 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:35:50am

re: #553 Cannadian Club Akbar

That guy is a fucking raving loon.

So's "Dr. Laura"

559 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:37:08am

re: #557 publicityStunted

I was reading about this on another site, and someone there mentioned this (which I hadn't even known about):

Meet Deryk Schlessinger

Yep, she's her "kid's mom" all right... 9_9

I did so not need to know that.

560 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:38:05am

Full disclosure.. I own 2 Micheal Savage books.

561 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:40:46am

re: #560 Cannadian Club Akbar

Full disclosure.. I own 2 Micheal Savage books.

I am guessing he is not related to Dan Savage?/

562 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:40:55am

re: #560 Cannadian Club Akbar

Full disclosure.. I own 2 Micheal Savage books.

I've got his book 'Healing Children Naturally'. It's a great book.

563 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:42:17am

re: #562 NJDhockeyfan

I've got his book 'Healing Children Naturally'. It's a great book.

I read his first book and could see the speaking cadence in his writing. About him growing up. Rocked.

564 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:44:42am

re: #563 Cannadian Club Akbar

I read his first book and could see the speaking cadence in his writing. About him growing up. Rocked.

I'll tell you what, whether you like his politics or not, the stories he tells about him growing up are frickin hilarious.

565 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:44:57am

Just got here... watched the video up thread on Rand Paul... I see what's going on... when O'Reilly at Fox does a drive by interview with some democrat, and side swipes him, and the person doesn't want to have anything to do with the interview, it's an outrage, but when a Fox reporter does it to a conservative, then it's dodging.

566 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:45:11am

Me thinks people write political books as a true belief and get pushed into extremism as the money rolls in. Prolly pushed by the publisher.

567 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:46:49am

re: #566 Cannadian Club Akbar

Me thinks people write political books as a true belief and get pushed into extremism as the money rolls in. Prolly pushed by the publisher.

well, the middle ground has been covered quite a few times...Plato comes to mind...

568 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:47:12am

re: #561 Radicchio ad Absurdum

I am guessing he is not related to Dan Savage?/

or Randy

569 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:47:48am

re: #567 Aceofwhat?

well, the middle ground has been covered quite a few times...Plato comes to mind...

Ya, but he didn't vote for Obama.
/

570 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:48:00am

re: #566 Cannadian Club Akbar

Me thinks people write political books as a true belief and get pushed into extremism as the money rolls in. Prolly pushed by the publisher.

Savage's Healing Children Naturally book is all about what to feed your children and keeping them from eating shit. There is not a single political sentence in that book.

571 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:49:05am

re: #568 Aceofwhat?

or Randy

ROTFLMAO thinking of those three Savages getting together

572 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:49:40am

re: #570 NJDhockeyfan

Savage's Healing Children Naturally book is all about what to feed your children and keeping them from eating shit. There is not a single political sentence in that book.

I meant his political ones. He also wrote a book on kicking a coke habit. But last I looked it was about $600. (not for me)

573 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:50:37am

re: #571 Radicchio ad Absurdum

ROTFLMAO thinking of those three Savages getting together

ooohhh yeaaahhh!

574 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:52:39am

Popular tour shuttered over terrorism concerns

ST. JOHNSBURY — A popular factory tour at famous maple syrup company has become one of the more obscure casualties of Sept. 11, 2001.

For more than a century, Maple Grove Farms has been bottling syrup and making maple candies at its production facility in St. Johnsbury. For much of that history, curious visitors could stop by to watch the factory floor in action.

Recently however, the company, the largest maple syrup wholesaler in the nation, had to shutter the tour as a result of “food-defense” concerns that have sprouted since terrorist attacks in New York City and Washington, D.C., nearly nine years ago.

“The times have changed, and we must change with them,” says Steve Jones, general manager at Maple Grove Farms.

The federal government has not instituted a blanket prohibition on factory tours. But post-9/11 guidelines developed by the Department of Homeland Security and Food and Drug Administration have shaped the voluntary food-safety standards that companies like Maple Grove must meet in order to sell their wares to major retailers.

“One of fallouts of those guidelines was to restrict access to food plants a lot more than they ever have been in past,” says Dave Fusaro, editor-in-chief at Food Processing, an industry trade magazine. “Maybe the biggest loss was the plant tour. Used to be you could bring a Boy Scout troop in and walk right through. That ain’t going to happen anymore.”

575 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:52:49am

Also remember, Micheal Savage is an actual Doctor.

576 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:52:50am

Chucky is blaming it on us...

"Asked why the Democrats are still expected to lose seats in November after passing major bills like healthcare reform, credit card reform, a fair-pay act and Wall Street reform, Schumer said voters are frustrated and don’t feel the effects of the legislation."

It's the economy STUPID. If any still believes that our electorate is in touch with you and I and your next store neighbor, well, I have some cake I can let you eat.

[Link: thehill.com...]

577 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:53:29am

re: #572 Cannadian Club Akbar

I meant his political ones. He also wrote a book on kicking a coke habit. But last I looked it was about $600. (not for me)

Us that coke habit 600 dollars a day, week, month?

578 ShaunP  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:54:14am

re: #565 Walter L. Newton

Just got here... watched the video up thread on Rand Paul... I see what's going on... when O'Reilly at Fox does a drive by interview with some democrat, and side swipes him, and the person doesn't want to have anything to do with the interview, it's an outrage, but when a Fox reporter does it to a conservative, then it's dodging.

This wasn't a drive-by, catch a person on the street, guerrilla interview. He was in their studio doing another interview. And it's not really outrageous; it is kind of silly though how some of the new batch of GOP candidates are trying to dodge the press. When have you ever seen a pol in an election year dodging reporters?

579 Crimsonfisted  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:54:21am

Posted on a dead thread. Repeating here.
I USE THE AUTO-COMMENTS! Please keep!

Thank you. That is all.

The High Priestess has spoken.

580 darthstar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:54:29am

re: #565 Walter L. Newton

Just got here... watched the video up thread on Rand Paul... I see what's going on... when O'Reilly at Fox does a drive by interview with some democrat, and side swipes him, and the person doesn't want to have anything to do with the interview, it's an outrage, but when a Fox reporter does it to a conservative, then it's dodging.

Good morning, Walter. I would agree with you, except this wasn't a 'drive-by' interview. Rand Paul was in the local Fox news room for a campaign plugging interview on the national network. The local Kentucky FOX affiliate that was hosting him thought that, since he is running for Senate in their state and there are some people asking questions about Aqua Buddha, they might be able to get a little face time with him. And he ran away.

They should have interviewed him while he was waiting for the national spokesmodel to give him his two minutes of fame.

581 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:54:42am

re: #577 Walter L. Newton

Us that coke habit 600 dollars a day, week, month?

My brother spent $900 in a day not long ago.

582 blueraven  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:58:54am

re: #565 Walter L. Newton

Just got here... watched the video up thread on Rand Paul... I see what's going on... when O'Reilly at Fox does a drive by interview with some democrat, and side swipes him, and the person doesn't want to have anything to do with the interview, it's an outrage, but when a Fox reporter does it to a conservative, then it's dodging.

To equate O'Reilly's "ambush" style of journalism where a "reporter" springs forth out of the bushes without warning and shoves a mic in someones face, to a question asked by reporters in a studio for a scheduled interview is ludicrous.

583 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:59:47am

I feel like the focus on Ron Paul's apparently crazy party days during college is a bit off the mark. It appears that nobody was hurt by the incident with "Aqua Buddha", and I doubt that anybody was even all that bothered by it. Frankly, it sounds alot like fairly typical frat boy stuff.

I think there is a certain danger to this kind of story, because it detracts from more legitimate criticism of Paul's policy positions, which are much crazier than his stoner antics. I worry about a media narrative that goes something like this:

Story 1: "Candidate A thinks the civil rights act of 1964 wasn't really a good idea, associated closely with white supremecists, and apparently forced a fellow college student to smoke weed in a college prank gone overboard"

Follow up story: "As it turns out, Candidate A didn't force a fellow college student to smoke weed, it was overblown. The allegation is made by an unnamed source, which cannot be verified. Clearly, Candidate A isn't as crazy as his opponents make him out to be."

The impression gleaned by the retarded electorate: "Ron Paul is being smeared by his opponents using unnamed anonymous sources, and isn't as crazy as everybody is saying. He seems like a relatively normal guy to me. I don't like this kind of personal attack politics. I might vote for Rand Paul."

There is a danger that this kind of story can help defuse the ACTUAL crazy shit Rand Paul stands for if it turns out to be nothing. The focus needs to be on the policy positions that Paul endorses, not the stupid stuff he did when he was 20 that really isn't all that crazy compared to what alot of people here, and alot of voters, have themselves done when they were young. Who cares that he was a stoner in college (I sure don't), he is a fucking racist tool who has no respect or concern for civil rights gains made in the past 50 years, and associates with white supremacists.

Clinton was a stoner in college, and Bush was an alcoholic before he got elected. The electorate didn't care that the past two presidents had crazy childhoods. It is a mistake to think they will care that R.P. did. It helps Paul to have this story out there, in a way, because it distracts from his far more odious traits.

584 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:01:44am

re: #583 Fozzie Bear

very nicely done. agree completely.

585 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:03:51am

re: #583 Fozzie Bear


[snip]

I think there is a certain danger to this kind of story, because it detracts from more legitimate criticism of Paul's policy positions, which are much crazier than his stoner antics.

[snip]

I think any story is fair game.

586 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:05:54am

re: #585 Walter L. Newton

I think any story is fair game.

IMO, the entire media is full of shit.

587 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:08:47am

bbiab.

588 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:09:24am

I've been thinking about something lately... it's only a stink, something I feel may be in the air, and I have no absolute proof of this... but I think the Clintons are intent in trying to ruin the current administration, at least help damage it.

Bill Clinton campaigned for Romanoff (sp?) in Colorado, who was running against President Obama's hand picked choice, Bennett.

And then Bill drops the remark the other day stating that he had nothing to do with the job offer to Sestak.

Maybe it's nothing, but watch out. See if Bill and certain supporters don't start picking up on dropping comments and making statements that don't weigh nicely on the administration.

Just a feeling.

589 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:09:48am

re: #585 Walter L. Newton

I think any story is fair game.

Sure, it's fair game. I wouldn't expect any reporter to pretend it isn't a story. I just also think the focus on the issue helps Paul more than it hurts him. Plus, I am suspicious of any single anonymous source discussing the events of decades ago, especially when those events don't shed any light on the candidate's policy positions.

This is the kind of story that often backfires, and it smells fishy to me. If it turned out to be less than truthful, it may help Paul quite a bit. Americans love underdogs. Lets not help turn this pile of shit into an underdog.

590 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:10:35am

re: #585 Walter L. Newton

I think any story is fair game.

I don't want to put words in FB's mouth, but i think his point was that if one wishes to report on something crazy about Luap Nor, college stories are counterproductive. The serious crazy is much more recent, and relevant.

591 joest73  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:13:21am

re: #583 Fozzie Bear


Clinton was a stoner in college, and Bush was an alcoholic before he got elected. The electorate didn't care that the past two presidents had crazy childhoods. It is a mistake to think they will care that R.P. did. It helps Paul to have this story out there, in a way, because it distracts from his far more odious traits.

And the majority of the electorate didn't care that President Obama had a mysterious college background.....

592 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:14:28am

re: #588 Walter L. Newton

It wouldn't surprise me, honestly. The Clintons are brilliant political players, and Machiavellian. Hillary's primary campaign was the genesis of birtherism, and lets not forget that she probably still wants to be president.

I'm not convinced, but it wouldn't blow my mind if it turned out to be the case.

593 Stonemason  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:14:51am

re: #591 joest73

And the majority of the electorate didn't care that President Obama had a mysterious college background...

shhhhh, that wasn't supposed to be mentioned.

594 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:16:00am

re: #591 joest73

And the majority of the electorate didn't care that President Obama had a mysterious college background...

oh, please, elaborate. i am trying to procrastinate and this should be good...

595 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:16:24am

re: #590 Aceofwhat?

I don't want to put words in FB's mouth, but i think his point was that if one wishes to report on something crazy about Luap Nor, college stories are counterproductive. The serious crazy is much more recent, and relevant.

And that's my point... I think the media is bias enough to know exactly why they report on certain things, and the way they report them. It's not counterproductive to the industry, it's extremely productive. Both in viewership, listeners, revenues and molding public opinion the way they want to.

Any wonder why they are called the Fourth Estate. That term was coined by Edmund Burke in 1787. They understood back then. We've lost sight of those facts.

596 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:17:31am

re: #591 joest73

And the majority of the electorate didn't care that President Obama had a mysterious college background...

Oh, PLEASE. Do tell, what's the unsolved mystery with Obama's higher education? Was his stint as president of the Harvard Law Review somehow fishy? Does it concern you that he graduated at the top of his class?

I don't get this meme at all. His history is known.

597 ClaudeMonet  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:17:36am

re: #576 Walter L. Newton

Chucky is blaming it on us...

"Asked why the Democrats are still expected to lose seats in November after passing major bills like healthcare reform, credit card reform, a fair-pay act and Wall Street reform, Schumer said voters are frustrated and don’t feel the effects of the legislation."

It's the economy STUPID. If any still believes that our electorate is in touch with you and I and your next store neighbor, well, I have some cake I can let you eat.

[Link: thehill.com...]

"It's the economy STUPID" only applies when you're a member of the party out of power, you're the challenger, or both.

598 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:18:53am

re: #597 ClaudeMonet

"It's the economy STUPID" only applies when you're a member of the party out of power, you're the challenger, or both.

Thanks for clearing that up for me. There's nothing wrong with the economy, it's all our imagination.

599 joest73  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:19:15am

re: #588 Walter L. Newton

I've been thinking about something lately... it's only a stink, something I feel may be in the air, and I have no absolute proof of this... but I think the Clintons are intent in trying to ruin the current administration, at least help damage it.

Bill Clinton campaigned for Romanoff (sp?) in Colorado, who was running against President Obama's hand picked choice, Bennett.

And then Bill drops the remark the other day stating that he had nothing to do with the job offer to Sestak.

Maybe it's nothing, but watch out. See if Bill and certain supporters don't start picking up on dropping comments and making statements that don't weigh nicely on the administration.

Just a feeling.

I think I said that here in one of my handful of posts the past few months.
I think the next Clinton move will depend on the outcome of the Nov. elections. If we have a huge win for the repubs I wouldn't be surprised to see Hillary resign from here position soon after the new year. If that happens.....look out.

600 Buck  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:20:42am

re: #588 Walter L. Newton

I've been thinking about something lately... it's only a stink, something I feel may be in the air, and I have no absolute proof of this... but I think the Clintons are intent in trying to ruin the current administration, at least help damage it.

I have a close friend who is a very close friend of the Clinton's.

He describes the Clinton's (and himself) as people who hate Obama... a hate.

However, he also talks about how he went to the Whitehouse, and got to play basketball with Obama.... so the whole 'two faces' thing is definitely in play.

601 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:22:06am

re: #599 joest73

I think I said that here in one of my handful of posts the past few months.
I think the next Clinton move will depend on the outcome of the Nov. elections. If we have a huge win for the repubs I wouldn't be surprised to see Hillary resign from here position soon after the new year. If that happens...look out.

Obama's left flank is WIDE open, and Hilary knows this. She has the chops to pull it off. Obama is a little too centrist from the perspective of much of his base. Globally speaking, he is center-right.

However, evidence on this one is lacking. I don't think there's enough to form any kind of conclusion on this, but I would keep one eye on Hilary if I were Obama.

602 ClaudeMonet  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:22:53am

re: #598 Walter L. Newton

Thanks for clearing that up for me. There's nothing wrong with the economy, it's all our imagination.

Sorry, I forgot the / at the end of my response.

I'm an accountant, and I know there's plenty wrong with the economy. I guess I differ from a lot of people in that I don't blame any particular party or person.

603 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:25:54am

re: #600 Buck

Do me a favor. Don't respond to my comments, or expect me to respond to yours. Talk about calling the pot black. In my opinion, you're one of the most two faced users on this forum.

And your sitting back, lurking in a thread, having a mental orgasm every time you stealth down ding someone, without even commenting is a bunch of bullshit.

Stay out of my conversation. Got it?

604 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:25:56am

California Republicans are different than those from the south that's for sure...
Fiorina and Whitman both reject the idea of changing the 14th.

605 blueraven  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:25:57am

re: #598 Walter L. Newton

Thanks for clearing that up for me. There's nothing wrong with the economy, it's all our imagination.

A nation of whiners?

606 ClaudeMonet  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:26:17am

re: #599 joest73

I think I said that here in one of my handful of posts the past few months.
I think the next Clinton move will depend on the outcome of the Nov. elections. If we have a huge win for the repubs I wouldn't be surprised to see Hillary resign from here position soon after the new year. If that happens...look out.

"Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer"--Don Vito Corleone

I think President Obama understands this. Personally, I wouldn't like to see her resign, as IMO she's done a much better job as SOS than she did as a Senator.

607 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:26:34am

re: #602 ClaudeMonet

Sorry, I forgot the / at the end of my response.

I'm an accountant, and I know there's plenty wrong with the economy. I guess I differ from a lot of people in that I don't blame any particular party or person.

Politicians are in charge of the modern economy in much the same way as a sailor is in charge of a small boat in a storm. The consequences of their losing control completely may be catastrophic (as civil war and hyperinflation in parts of the former Soviet empire have recently reminded us), but even while they keep afloat, their influence over the course of events is tiny in comparison with that of the storm around them. We who are their passengers may focus our hopes and fears upon them, and express profound gratitude toward them if we reach harbor safely, but that is chiefly because it seems pointless to thank the storm.

--Paul Seabright

608 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:27:28am

re: #602 ClaudeMonet

Sorry, I forgot the / at the end of my response.

I'm an accountant, and I know there's plenty wrong with the economy. I guess I differ from a lot of people in that I don't blame any particular party or person.

I'm not blaming anyone, but certainly what is being touted as the answers is not working, and it's evident our current bunch of economic "experts" have no clue on how to fix it.

609 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:29:03am

re: #607 Aceofwhat?

Ain't that the fucking truth.

Policy does matter as regards the economy, but it isn't like it is possible to design a "fix the economy" bill that would somehow repair everything. Economies move slowly, organically, and the current situation will take time for us to work our way out of no matter who is in charge.

It is certainly possible for administration policy to help or hurt things, but in either case, it will take years for the effects to be felt.

610 ClaudeMonet  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:30:15am

re: #608 Walter L. Newton

I'm not blaming anyone, but certainly what is being touted as the answers is not working, and it's evident our current bunch of economic "experts" have no clue on how to fix it.

One of the few good things about economics as a "discipline" is that it keeps those who practice it away from other fields.

Ace--Great quote. Upding.

611 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:30:21am

re: #609 Fozzie Bear

Bill Gates deserves more credit than Bill Clinton for the '90's economy. I use Bill Gates as a braoder tech boom term, not literally that person only.

612 Buck  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:30:34am

re: #602 ClaudeMonet

Sorry, I forgot the / at the end of my response.

I'm an accountant, and I know there's plenty wrong with the economy. I guess I differ from a lot of people in that I don't blame any particular party or person.

The Canadian and US economies are connected in many ways. There is an old Canadian joke that when the US sneezes, Canada catches a cold.

This "worst economic downturn since the great depression" was different. Canada was not nearly as affected (effected?) as we would have thought. The conservative government in Canada (I think it is the first time in history where Canada has a more conservative government that the US) did things very differently. Both before and after the downturn.

For example in Canada housing prices were stable, and so were employment numbers.

History will teach us who was to blame, however we need the distance from it. I have my theory of course.

613 deranged cat  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:31:29am

re: #598 Walter L. Newton

urgh. ive been trying to write a thoughtful paragraph, but i completely suck at it. so ill just say this: I agree with Schumer. many people in my area are impatient, uninformed and lazy/ignorant. like, they usually believe the first thing they hear.. and if that first thing happens to be fox news, well it's pretty easy for them to feel frustrated.

614 Buck  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:31:53am

re: #611 Rightwingconspirator

Bill Gates deserves more credit than Bill Clinton for the '90's economy. I use Bill Gates as a braoder tech boom term, not literally that person only.

I would add Wal-Mart... lower prices to consumers on a wide scale...

615 blueraven  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:34:25am

re: #612 Buck

The Canadian and US economies are connected in many ways. There is an old Canadian joke that when the US sneezes, Canada catches a cold.

This "worst economic downturn since the great depression" was different. Canada was not nearly as affected (effected?) as we would have thought. The conservative government in Canada (I think it is the first time in history where Canada has a more conservative government that the US) did things very differently. Both before and after the downturn.

For example in Canada housing prices were stable, and so were employment numbers.

Of course Canada has a larger social safety net than the US...so there is that.

History will teach us who was to blame, however we need the distance from it. I have my theory of course.

616 deranged cat  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:34:41am
617 Varek Raith  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:34:42am

re: #614 Buck

I would add Wal-Mart... lower prices to consumers on a wide scale...

Yep, using Chinese labor at 20 some-odd cents an hour sure is hard to compete against.

618 joest73  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:34:44am

re: #609 Fozzie Bear

Ain't that the fucking truth.

Policy does matter as regards the economy, but it isn't like it is possible to design a "fix the economy" bill that would somehow repair everything. Economies move slowly, organically, and the current situation will take time for us to work our way out of no matter who is in charge.

It is certainly possible for administration policy to help or hurt things, but in either case, it will take years for the effects to be felt.

While it may be true that the President/Congress has little control of the economy short term, but the actions of those people in charge in Washington sets the tone for the perception of the economy. I was too young to remember the Carter years but you get the feeling that were are in the middle of one of those "malaise" periods.

619 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:34:44am

I see we had another one of the stupid assholes from the stalker blog acting like a baby in this thread. No longer.

620 ClaudeMonet  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:36:14am

re: #422 SanFranciscoZionist

One of the teachers at my school had his first this year, and they named him Milo.

They wanted M names. His grandpa is Mahmoud, but told them that for all intents and purposes he felt that Ahmedinejad had made the name unusable for an American baby.

If he were still alive, my great-uncle Adolph would understand completely. He forbade his children from honoring him by naming their kids for him.

621 blueraven  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:36:32am

re: #615 blueraven

Ach...somehow screwed up the formatting
My reply to Buck is:

Of course Canada has a larger social safety net than the US...so there is that.

622 deranged cat  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:36:55am

re: #615 blueraven

in almost all cases, "affect" is used. "effect" is usually used to describe something that happened as a result.

623 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:37:10am

re: #619 Charles

and lame, too. boring trolls are boring...

624 Kragar  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:37:30am

The GOP has found a new enemy, Terror babies.

Gohmert Continues to Push ‘Terror Babies’ Debate on 14th Amendment

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Tex.) reasserted his claim last night that Al Qaeda may be sending women to the U.S. to birth a contingent of future terrorists credentialed with American passports.

Gohmert argued with host Anderson Cooper, who asked him to provide proof to back up his claims about the phenomenon. He said “the evidence abounds” but failed to produce a source for his information, other than an anonymous former FBI agent. (Watch the video here.)

625 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:37:31am

Good morning.

Hey Walter, thinking a lot about Steve here, hoping you will have a good news report sometime soon.

626 Varek Raith  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:37:52am

re: #623 Aceofwhat?

and lame, too. boring trolls are boring...

Nice avatar.
:)

627 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:38:36am

re: #614 Buck

Wal Mart only did that because of off shoring. **spit**
Every President for a couple decades was all for that.

628 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:40:03am

re: #624 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The GOP has found a new enemy, Terror babies.

Gohmert Continues to Push ‘Terror Babies’ Debate on 14th Amendment

Look Out! (in 15 years or so) LOL

629 Varek Raith  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:40:51am

re: #624 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The GOP has found a new enemy, Terror babies.

Gohmert Continues to Push ‘Terror Babies’ Debate on 14th Amendment

I'm all for throwing kids in Gitmo.
/

630 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:41:06am

re: #624 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

This "terror baby" thing has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Honestly, who would believe this? This is too nutty even for the nutters, I would have thought.

631 deranged cat  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:42:06am

re: #624 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The GOP has found a new enemy, Terror babies.

Gohmert Continues to Push ‘Terror Babies’ Debate on 14th Amendment

somebody posted that earlier, you should read the replies to it earlier hahaha..
and yes. he is CRAZY in that video. i love how he keeps attacking Cooper, saying he's a detractor etc etc..

632 joest73  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:42:09am

re: #614 Buck

I would add Wal-Mart... lower prices to consumers on a wide scale...

If you add Wal-Mart....then you do need to give credit to Clinton....since Hillary was a board member of Wal-Mart.

633 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:42:14am

re: #625 Stanley Sea

Good morning.

Hey Walter, thinking a lot about Steve here, hoping you will have a good news report sometime soon.

I hope so too. There is a good chance we (I) won't hear anything for a week or so. I know his arrangements, he has two good people with him, and one of the best medical teams working on this. I told him to try to contact me first, so I don't wind up bothering him.

So, I'm leaving it up to him to get back to me (us) with information when/as he can.

But after about a week, if I don't hear from him, I'll be all over New Mexico trying to get a status. I have emails address', phone numbers and names... I got names...

634 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:42:43am

re: #626 Varek Raith

Nice avatar.
:)

Another dead baby...sue the parents!

635 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:45:06am

re: #633 Walter L. Newton

thanks for that

636 ClaudeMonet  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:48:21am

re: #630 Fozzie Bear

This "terror baby" thing has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Honestly, who would believe this? This is too nutty even for the nutters, I would have thought.

I'm no longer sure that anything "is too nutty even for the nutters". As appalled as I was about the behavior of the left during the Bush Presidency, the right has gone light-years beyond that since President Obama became the Democratic nominee.

The concept of sane-and-loyal-but-disagreeing seems to have met its demise about 13-14 years ago.

637 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:50:37am

re: #633 Walter L. Newton

Thanks Walter. Just from a blog relationship my stomach aches.

638 Buck  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 9:57:27am

re: #627 Rightwingconspirator

Wal Mart only did that because of off shoring. **spit**
Every President for a couple decades was all for that.

We disagree. I think that there are a lot more US made products at Wal-Mart than you give credit for. Especially in the 90's. I also think you minimize the benefits of lower consumer prices on the overall economy.

It might be that some factory jobs were lost, but many other jobs were created. I know that Union propaganda would like it to seem like they were crappy jobs, but the reality is that building the buildings, staffing the wearhouses, the trucking, the computers, the management.... and even the front line staff meant huge employment gains.

Was this President Clintons doing, of course not, but it happened on his watch, and IMO contributed to the economic gains of that time.

639 tnguitarist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 10:01:02am

re: #635 Aceofwhat?

thanks for that

Don't tell me you're a Squidbillies fan. Best show ever. I just saw Unknown Hinson live last Sunday. He's the voice of Early and one hell of a guitar player.

640 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 10:21:55am

re: #476 Spare O'Lake

The serial stabber, identified in the MSM only as an Israeli citizen, is an Arab non-Jew, by the way.

The MSM is not, in fact, responsible for pointing out when serial killers are Catholics.

641 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 10:22:57am

re: #477 reloadingisnotahobby

I caught that when they named him...I thought..WTF?
Israeli my ass
Might be going to Israel but that's a Pali name.

He's an Israeli-born Israeli citizen. That's an ARAB, Israeli name, and the nutjob himself is a Christian. How are we planning to pick which of his identities best defines him?

642 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 10:26:54am

re: #502 deranged cat

you know, i'd prefer kung fu's weaksauce than...

I'm already preparing for, in November, any sadness I have about the midterms being magnified by gloating here, and any happiness I have being diluted by sulking here.

This is a terrible thing to say about one's online friends, but there it is.

;)

643 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 10:28:07am

re: #507 NJDhockeyfan

Langley granny used live grenade as paperweight

There was a piece in the paper some years ago about a Jerusalem lady who found a live grenade in her apartment while cleaning for Pesach. No one knew how it got there.

The Army came and removed it for her.

644 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 10:29:33am

re: #524 RadicalModerate

Arrgh. This again. Didn't you read the discussion from yesterday's thread where this got covered?

Started with this post, scroll down to see the conversation.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

The claim that Abuelazam is a "Palestinian Arab" came from Debbie Schlussel, and the assertion was repeated at the fever swamp yesterday.
Other rightwing blogs (Brietbart, HotAir, etc) have picked up on the claim and are repeating Schlussel's story.

2nd link down on this cached image:
[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

From the JPost article that was cited, the only statement that was made regarding his ethnicity was this:

This is the latest update from JPost, and still says nothing about him being an Arab or Palestinian.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

By the way, white supremacist sites are now labeling Abuelazam as a "hero" since a majority of his victims were African-Americans.

This one comes from one called "The wandering white" (no google cache, so no link, but it's the first hit on a google search for "Elias Abuelazam hero").
Given his thinly veiled threat to President Obama, I'm forwarding the link to the hosting site's administrators.

One more note: The Google search also returned hits on Brietbart's site a few links down, where some readers there were also calling Abuelazam a hero.

Jesus H.

Now that's an angle I hadn't forseen.

What dolls!

645 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 10:31:44am

re: #544 RadicalModerate

Turned on morning news programs today and they're all over the Laura Schlessinger story where she dropped about a dozen n-bombs on her radio program in one segment.

As bad as I thought of her tossing the word around like it was nothing, I was far more disturbed by her ending statement to the caller:
"If you're that hypersensitive about color and don't have a sense of humor, don't marry out of your race."

Apparently Loving v Virginia has little to no meaning for Dr. Schlessinger.

I'm so glad that woman dropped out of Judaism with such public fervor.

646 Interesting Times  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 10:34:43am

re: #645 SanFranciscoZionist

At this point, I'd prefer she drop off the face of the Earth.

647 ClaudeMonet  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 10:36:00am

re: #641 SanFranciscoZionist

He's an Israeli-born Israeli citizen. That's an ARAB, Israeli name, and the nutjob himself is a Christian. How are we planning to pick which of his identities best defines him?

Whichever we dislike the most.

Those who hate Israel will call him an Israeli. We Jews will point out that he is an Arab. Those who hate Christians will call him a Catholic.

648 ClaudeMonet  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 10:37:51am

re: #645 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm so glad that woman dropped out of Judaism with such public fervor.

I stopped paying even minimal attention to her years ago. Why did she publicly drop out of Judaism?

649 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 11:50:02am

re: #647 ClaudeMonet

Whichever we dislike the most.

Those who hate Israel will call him an Israeli. We Jews will point out that he is an Arab. Those who hate Christians will call him a Catholic.

It's a type of "othering" I'm very concerned with.

650 Dan M.  Fri, Aug 13, 2010 7:36:00pm

This is a non-story. Rand Paul implicitly admits that he might have smoked weed and participated in harmless pranks in college. Big deal. This wasn't a "Fox News" reporter that he was dodging. It was a local Fox affiliate badgering him after his interview was over on a topic that he doesn't care to talk about because what is there to say other than "Sure, I might have smoked some weed and goofed off a bit, but so what?"

I was expecting something good like a confrontation with Cavuto. You know, the one person in this segment who actually works for Fox News.

651 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 14, 2010 9:16:41am

re: #650 Dan M.

Do you ever have anything to say besides complaining about what stories are posted at LGF?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

652 Sacred Plants  Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:53:09am

I can only express my upright thanks and profound respect that you have come out over that tremendous experience, if not with your personality then with your profession. Spiritual abuse is just like sexual abuse: Precisely the same acts, based on the freedom of will can be perfectly right, and based on the overwhelming of the fellow creature they are horribly wrong. It does not matter what is the content of the procedure (although it seems questionable how the distance to the source was neglected, I would personally recommend to check what's upstream first before trusting the water) nor whether that might be of such nature that it would inspire the honest to seek retreat rather than publicity (as many traditions of faith recommend it for acts of worship). The only thing that matters is that the overwhelming of the personality intended with the construct is essentially the same as the overwhelming of the sexuality intended with an act of abuse. Which leaves the perpetrators behind as a gang of mind rapists. For precisely this reason, in a totalitarian society they would be government officials, of the type which does not prefer to serve in any other branch of government than the one it does, to put it bluntly. In a planetary perspective, just as with the sexual abuse in the Church, at this point we have only seen the tip of the iceberg, represented in this iconic as well as iconoclastic case, and quite likely there is more to come as these who were affected by it over the time are getting ready to reclaim their liberty. Maybe it is so that if the Church is in such a rotten state there is nothing to prevent societies from devolving into organized spiritual abuse. The only mystery here is how the perps could come to think they could get away with it.

Need a sane moral compass? Follow the Discordian Rule.


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