On his radio show this morning, Glenn Beck made excuses for the Birther movement by saying that Barack Obama is “a Christian that Christians don’t recognize,” and therefore it’s perfectly understandable that they would think he’s a Muslim.
Beck, of course, is a converted Mormon who promotes Christian supremacism with the help of outright theocrats and historical revisionists, like David Barton.
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:20:33am |
Kinda like Lois Lane doesn't recognize Superman just cause he puts glasses on.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:21:49am |
like that materialistic sodomy supporting conservative entertainer would know what a REAL christian looks like /farrah
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Kragar Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:22:13am |
Rush was on this kick this morning as well. They're going apeshit over the latest poll.
New Poll: 1 in 5 Americans See Obama as 'Muslim'
A new public opinion poll shows 18 percent of Americans wrongly believe President Barack Obama is a Muslim.
The number of Americans with that mistaken idea has risen in the past year, although President Obama is a practicing Christian and has made many public statements about his faith.
The poll released Thursday by the Pew Research Center indicated that only 34 percent of people know the president is Christian. A larger number – 43 percent – say they are not certain what religion Obama practices.
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Obdicut Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:22:21am |
Isn't there a general problem with Christians not 'recognizing' each other? Catholics aren't considered Christian by a large number of Protestant denominations.
However, nobody thinks they're Muslims.
Gee, wonder what it is about Obama that makes racist assholes think he's a Muslim?
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jayzee Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:22:32am |
If I were a Democrat I'd really be enjoying all this.
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Four More Tears Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:24:25am |
re: #5 Obdicut
Isn't there a general problem with Christians not 'recognizing' each other? Catholics aren't considered Christian by a large number of Protestant denominations.
However, nobody thinks they're Muslims.
Gee, wonder what it is about Obama that makes racist assholes think he's a Muslim?
His elitist education?
No, no that's not it... hmmm. Gimme a minute.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:24:51am |
re: #6 jayzee
Actually, as a democrat, while I could enjoy the stupidity of it all I find it utterly disgusting. I was raised to love this country and believe that America and our people were, despite our many faults, good people. The past decade has obliterated that belief. This is the dark underbelly of this country and is not who or what we should be.
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:24:56am |
re: #4 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Rush was on this kick this morning as well. They're going apeshit over the latest poll.
It's gone up recently. What they're going apeshit about is that the number of people stupid enough to buy the memes they've been relentlessly pushing for the last 4 years has gone up.
Higher market share for complete dumbfuckery
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tnguitarist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:25:03am |
re: #7 JasonA
His elitist education?
No, no that's not it... hmmm. Gimme a minute.
It's his choice of casual wear.
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Obdicut Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:25:22am |
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:26:06am |
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Obdicut Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:26:10am |
re: #9 Dreggas
I really thought Obama's election was a watershed moment, leading us away from the racism of the past.
Turns out it's just allowed it all to come to a boil. I'm hoping it's a catharsis; I fear it's not.
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Four More Tears Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:26:21am |
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Four More Tears Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:26:33am |
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:26:34am |
re: #12 Obdicut
Such as what, Spikester?
I'm all ears.
Let him have enough rope...but get the grill ready.
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Kragar Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:27:07am |
Rush was saying how can we really KNOW he is a Christian, when it seems like every Sunday, he plays golf instead of going to Church.
Yes, really.
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:27:15am |
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tnguitarist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:27:49am |
re: #15 Obdicut
I really thought Obama's election was a watershed moment, leading us away from the racism of the past.
Turns out it's just allowed it all to come to a boil. I'm hoping it's a catharsis; I fear it's not.
Color me a cynic, I guess. The night he was elected I told my wife that things were gonna get ugly.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:27:57am |
re: #15 Obdicut
I had hoped the same thing. That maybe we'd have at least taken a real step forward. But as always, two steps forward one step back and it's really quite sad. Hopefully, in the long run, this will be a good thing and we can finally lance the boil that we've been hiding (not always subtly) for so long.
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Four More Tears Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:27:59am |
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:28:14am |
re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
So when was the last time Rush was warming a pew??
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:28:19am |
re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Rush was saying how can we really KNOW he is a Christian, when it seems like every Sunday, he plays golf instead of going to Church.
Yes, really.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Green
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Charles Johnson Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:28:28am |
It's getting really freaking nasty out there. The floodgates of Muslim-hatred have been opened.
[Link: groups.google.com...]
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Kragar Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:28:49am |
re: #10 PT Barnum
It's gone up recently. What they're going apeshit about is that the number of people stupid enough to buy the memes they've been relentlessly pushing for the last 4 years has gone up.
Higher market share for complete dumbfuckery
We're going to put the secret muslim line into every broadcast for 3 years, lets see what happens.
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Four More Tears Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:28:52am |
re: #21 tnguitarist
Color me a cynic, I guess. The night he was elected I told my wife that things were gonna get ugly.
I kinda felt the same way, but I honestly expected the birth certificate nonsense to go away. Who knew?
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:29:05am |
re: #24 reloadingisnotahobby
So when was the last time Rush was warming a pew??
Since he had baked beans before the Wednesday night service...
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:29:23am |
re: #21 tnguitarist
the night he was elected I was playing an MMO. The amount of utter nastiness that came out of my "guildies" was enough to drive me away from them and the game. One, a 14 year old, even said he and his parents hoped that Obama was shot.
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Four More Tears Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:30:27am |
re: #30 Dreggas
the night he was elected I was playing an MMO. The amount of utter nastiness that came out of my "guildies" was enough to drive me away from them and the game. One, a 14 year old, even said he and his parents hoped that Obama was shot.
Talk like that made me walk away from my guild, too.
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PapaWhisky Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:30:41am |
Off Topic Query:
How do the vast majority of us become the religion that we are?
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Obdicut Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:30:56am |
re: #26 Charles
That's insane. As if the Bible-- and Talmudic law-- don't have similar passages.
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Obdicut Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:31:10am |
re: #32 PapaWhisky
Whatever your parents are, you tend to be.
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:31:10am |
re: #31 JasonA
Talk like that made me walk away from my guild, too.
Too bad there isn't a LGF guild..I'd actually dive back into WoW or D&D Online for that...
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Kragar Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:31:14am |
re: #32 PapaWhisky
Off Topic Query:
How do the vast majority of us become the religion that we are?
Devout agnostic after allergic reaction to assholes.
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darthstar Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:31:16am |
NPR did a story this morning about how 1 in 5 Americans now think Obama is a Muslim, and 1 in 3 believe he's a Christian, while that number was 1 in 2 when he was elected.
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:31:43am |
re: #32 PapaWhisky
Off Topic Query:
How do the vast majority of us become the religion that we are?
Just like computers, it's whoever got to you first..
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What, me worry? Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:32:25am |
Actually I think Glenn Beck may be right on this one! I didn't listen to the audio, but if 1 in 5 believe he's in Muslim, I bet that same "1" would tell you about Obama sitting in a Christian church for 20 years listening to his pastor damn America (which is also a slanderous lie).
I mentioned it before, but an Obama hater acquaintance gave me both arguments about a week ago. He was a dirty rotten Muslim and a dirty rotten Christian, both.
Makes no sense.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:32:47am |
re: #35 PT Barnum
I play Age of Conan. I moved to a different server after the election, one with fewer paul-tards, conspiracy theorists, and in general nut jobs. It's been much more relaxing and the guild I am in has a no politics while gaming rule. Makes things much easier.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:33:09am |
re: #32 PapaWhisky
Off Topic Query:
How do the vast majority of us become the religion that we are?
Upbringing primarily, and then social groups once one has fled/been tossed out of the nest.
Of course, there is also a school of thought that one decides what sort of social support group one is look for and then selects a religion that fits the desired criteria.
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PapaWhisky Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:33:24am |
So if the majority subscribe to where they came from .. then it's no surprise that the majority ascribe to where HE came from
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garhighway Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:33:30am |
re: #41 Dreggas
I play Age of Conan. I moved to a different server after the election, one with fewer paul-tards, conspiracy theorists, and in general nut jobs. It's been much more relaxing and the guild I am in has a no politics while gaming rule. Makes things much easier.
Better that then Age of Leno, I guess.
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Ericus58 Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:33:40am |
re: #35 PT Barnum
Too bad there isn't a LGF guild..I'd actually dive back into WoW or D&D Online for that...
Cataclysm is coming.... just sayin'...
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Four More Tears Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:33:51am |
re: #41 Dreggas
I play Age of Conan. I moved to a different server after the election, one with fewer paul-tards, conspiracy theorists, and in general nut jobs. It's been much more relaxing and the guild I am in has a no politics while gaming rule. Makes things much easier.
I played Conan for a while. Not bad, actually. Truth is, I rarely stick with MMOs for long. LotRO was one of my favorites.
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Kragar Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:34:07am |
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:34:08am |
re: #44 garhighway
Better that then Age of Leno, I guess.
Problem there is that everyone leads with their chin. Gets boring after a while.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:35:09am |
re: #45 Ericus58
Cataclysm is coming... just sayin'...
I played EQ for almost 10 years. No more MMOs for me. Too much commitment.
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Four More Tears Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:35:11am |
re: #47 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Dark Millenium and Fallout MMO on the way.
I have no interest in going back to Wow and its 2002-era graphics. A FO MMO don't sound too shabby, though...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:35:57am |
re: #9 Dreggas
I'm not totally sure. I'm kind of thinking that the underbelly is more obvious because of the internet and the anonymity that comes with it.
And I think the underbelly is greatly exaggerated because of the internet and the anonymity that comes with it.
This is one of the times that I really believe what I am saying, and am desperately hoping I am right.
If the awfulness in America is as big as it appears to be? Ain't worth saving. I can't believe it.
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Kragar Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:36:10am |
re: #50 JasonA
I have no interest in going back to Wow and its 2002-era graphics. A FO MMO don't sound too shabby, though...
Dark Millenium isn't WOW.
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What, me worry? Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:36:13am |
re: #47 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Dark Millenium and Fallout MMO on the way.
And Diablo.
Oh yeaaaa baby.
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Kragar Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:36:34am |
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Obdicut Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:36:57am |
re: #43 PapaWhisky
So if the majority subscribe to where they came from .. then it's no surprise that the majority ascribe to where HE came from
If you were proceeding by pure, narrow, deranged logic, sure.
But why would you, when it's obvious he's a Christian, since, you know, he's a Christian?
Geez.
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Obdicut Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:37:30am |
re: #43 PapaWhisky
Also, Hawaii: not exactly a hotbed of Islam.
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:38:12am |
re: #53 marjoriemoon
And Diablo.
Oh yeaaa baby.
I would like to find something where you could play with a group once or twice a week, without committing yourself to playing every night.
DND Online was good that way, as it was all quest based as opposed to having to grind your way to success.
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Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:38:29am |
We're banging the drums of reason, but no one is listening.
The Economy is wretched, but the majority of people don't understand how much worse it could get.
Instead people are too busy looking at, is Obama Christian? is he a secret Muslim, or some other diversion. with the media promoting each random stupidity with this faux 'balanced' coverage, "Is Obama a space alien, we'll have two speakers, one who says yes, one who says no, and we'll let them yell at each other."
The media has abdicated their responsibility to report news, and now simply entertain. But the general population hasn't caught up to that fact yet. So instead we have a bunch of programs that claim to be 'news' but instead indoctrinate and enable the conspiracy theorists. We give weight and credence to the people that yell the loudest and the most.
We as America have also failed because we're not being the best people we can be. Instead too many of us are giving into our base instincts and impulses, our xenophobia and our fear are controlling us.
And I'm not sure we have an easy answer, except to keep banging the drums of reason, and hope that people are able to hear the call.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:38:32am |
Not being a Gamer.....
I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YA"LL ARE F"NG TALKING ABOUT!!
I feel better.....Rain has stopped ..I'm heading ..."gulp"
back out ...the.. the.. there!
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PapaWhisky Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:39:16am |
re: #56 Obdicut
My parents were devout Catholics. I was "raised" Catholic. But I no more consider myself Catholic than i do druid.
But the vast majority of the people I meet ascribe me to my origins
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:39:42am |
re: #58 PT Barnum
I would like to find something where you could play with a group once or twice a week, without committing yourself to playing every night.
DND Online was good that way, as it was all quest based as opposed to having to grind your way to success.
Anybody interested in doing something along these lines, send me an email via my website...I'd love to have a good group to play with again.
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TedStriker Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:39:43am |
re: #43 PapaWhisky
S f th mjrt sbscrb t whr th cm frm .. thn t's n srprs tht th mjrt scrb t whr H cm frm
*SNIFF SNIFF*
/14 posts in 3 years...
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What, me worry? Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:39:49am |
re: #54 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Pfff
PFF?? PFF??? Blasphemy, sir!!
Actually I don't really care, but I'm getting bored of the same ole same ole.
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Four More Tears Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:40:03am |
re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Dark Millenium isn't WOW.
I know, I know. I still had it on my mind from the earlier comments.
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chonguey Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:40:04am |
As a Mormon myself, I can't help but laugh that Beck, of all people, thinks it is justifiable to be suspicious of a person because they practice "a Christianity that Christians don't recognize."
Really? I mean, REALLY?
I would say that this is an example of the Pot calling the kettle black, but I doubt that Glenn Beck is intelligent enough to pick up on it: He's just that dumb.
Please, Lord, deliver us from this blithering idiot, Glenn Beck.
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AntonSirius Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:40:38am |
re: #40 marjoriemoon
Actually I think Glenn Beck may be right on this one! I didn't listen to the audio, but if 1 in 5 believe he's in Muslim, I bet that same "1" would tell you about Obama sitting in a Christian church for 20 years listening to his pastor damn America (which is also a slanderous lie).
I mentioned it before, but an Obama hater acquaintance gave me both arguments about a week ago. He was a dirty rotten Muslim and a dirty rotten Christian, both.
Makes no sense.
You'd almost think their hatred of him was irrational or something.
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PapaWhisky Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:40:47am |
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:40:52am |
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tnguitarist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:41:01am |
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What, me worry? Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:41:34am |
re: #58 PT Barnum
I would like to find something where you could play with a group once or twice a week, without committing yourself to playing every night.
DND Online was good that way, as it was all quest based as opposed to having to grind your way to success.
We have this unusual thing. About 7 years ago, we met some gamers in EQ and we've been gaming together ever since. We're on and off all the time and no one gets pissy at each other. You play as much or as little as you like. About 5-10 folks. Enough for a small guild. It's very nice.
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:41:45am |
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Kragar Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:42:02am |
re: #60 reloadingisnotahobby
Not being a Gamer...
I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YA"LL ARE F"NG TALKING ABOUT!!
I feel better...Rain has stopped ..I'm heading ..."gulp"
back out ...the.. the.. there!
I can fix that
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:42:04am |
re: #69 PapaWhisky
I respectfully request an answer to my question, please.
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Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:42:33am |
re: #53 marjoriemoon
And Diablo.
Oh yeaaa baby.
For those who do still play Diablo I have some ladder characters on US East that I play from time to time. Sadly no lizard class yet :)
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Obdicut Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:42:33am |
re: #61 PapaWhisky
My parents were devout Catholics. I was "raised" Catholic. But I no more consider myself Catholic than i do druid.
But the vast majority of the people I meet ascribe me to my origins
Well, that's stupid of them. I was raised Catholic. I'm an atheist. Strangely enough, people 'ascribe me to' being an atheist, since that's what I am.
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tnguitarist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:42:55am |
re: #69 PapaWhisky
So....Obama is Shinto? What did I miss?
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Kragar Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:43:15am |
re: #73 PT Barnum
Is that out as a MMO? I only knew it as a single player game.
They're working on a sequel, multiplayer, but not MMO.
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TedStriker Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:43:19am |
re: #61 PapaWhisky
What are whose origins? Clarify, please...
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:43:50am |
re: #74 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Thanks but no!
I've got my wife in a support group.....Farmville or something like that!
It must be good for her...she's on it ALOT!
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tnguitarist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:43:51am |
re: #73 PT Barnum
Is that out as a MMO? I only knew it as a single player game.
2 was MMO, but I haven't touched it in a while. Waiting for 3.....waiting.....
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What, me worry? Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:43:55am |
re: #76 bloodstar
For those who do still play Diablo I have some ladder characters on US East that I play from time to time. Sadly no lizard class yet :)
We have enough lizard gamers to do a guild, I think. How freakin cool would that be. I mean for an MMORPG.
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spikester Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:44:03am |
re: #78 tnguitarist
The big O will be what ever you want if it keeps him on AF-1
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tnguitarist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:44:36am |
re: #79 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
They're working on a sequel, multiplayer, but not MMO.
Wasn't 2 MMO? I never played online.
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Nervous Norvous Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:44:55am |
re: #84 marjoriemoon
We have enough lizard gamers to do a guild, I think. How freakin cool would that be. I mean for an MMORPG.
I think that would be extremely cool...like I said, send me an email on my site...
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Four More Tears Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:45:05am |
re: #84 marjoriemoon
We have enough lizard gamers to do a guild, I think. How freakin cool would that be. I mean for an MMORPG.
I totally think Kragar would go around swiping everyone else's loot.
/
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Killgore Trout Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:45:06am |
Today's outrageous outrage.....
Fox: Decision Not to Rebuild Church Destroyed on 9/11 Surprises Greek Orthodox Leaders
GOP: Why can't the Greek church at Ground Zero be rebuilt?
Reality: Church Destroyed On 9/11 Finding Resurrection Difficult
The Port Authority says the group has the right to rebuild St Nicholas Church at its original location and will still cover the cost of the foundation to protect the underground parking structure below. But whatever is built above ground at the existing 1,200 square feet lot will have to go up without taxpayer funds.
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Obdicut Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:45:40am |
re: #85 spikester
God, what a boring troll.
You don't got it, kid, you don't got that oomph, that wowza, that je ne sais quois. This town is gonna eat you alive, and you'll be stuck with the bill for the meal.
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garhighway Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:45:48am |
re: #85 spikester
The big O will be what ever you want if it keeps him on AF-1
Yo, Spikester! Did you ever answer the questions people had for you on the prior thread?
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Kragar Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:45:52am |
re: #88 JasonA
I totally think Kragar would go around swiping everyone else's loot.
/
Thems fighting words.
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AntonSirius Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:45:57am |
re: #48 oaktree
Problem there is that everyone leads with their chin. Gets boring after a while.
I dropped it after they nerfed Jaywalking.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:46:00am |
re: #76 bloodstar
For those who do still play Diablo I have some ladder characters on US East that I play from time to time. Sadly no lizard class yet :)
EQ has a lizard class called Iksar... but I don't recommend picking the game up unless you have 20 hours a day to devote to the game.
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What, me worry? Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:46:04am |
re: #87 PT Barnum
I think that would be extremely cool...like I said, send me an email on my site...
Absolutely will.
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tnguitarist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:46:10am |
re: #85 spikester
The big O will be what ever you want if it keeps him on AF-1
The big O! You guys are such cards! The hilarity!
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TedStriker Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:46:34am |
re: #84 marjoriemoon
We have enough lizard gamers to do a guild, I think. How freakin cool would that be. I mean for an MMORPG.
MMOs aren't really my style...gimme some BF:BC2 or Call of Duty (though not the last one...Infinity Ward and Activison can go suck an egg for that one).
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Obdicut Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:46:38am |
re: #89 Killgore Trout
Are they seriously promoting the building of a Greek Orthodox Church near ground zero while condemning the community center?
Are they just trying to be completely and blatantly obvious in their bigotry, or am I missing something?
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:46:46am |
re: #4 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Rush was on this kick this morning as well. They're going apeshit over the latest poll.
My interest in the religion practiced by the President is right up there with the hair care products used by the president.
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Kragar Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:46:46am |
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Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:46:58am |
re: #81 cliffster
The libertarian in me could care less about Clemens, but lying under oath? People take that pretty seriously.
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RadicalModerate Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:47:00am |
re: #26 Charles
That "questionnaire" came from Billy Rojas of islamwatch, and Geert Wilders fame. If you do a google for the article title, so-called "Patriot Movement" sites are spreading the article as well.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:47:03am |
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Killgore Trout Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:47:26am |
re: #98 Obdicut
Are they seriously promoting the building of a Greek Orthodox Church near ground zero while condemning the community center?
Are they just trying to be completely and blatantly obvious in their bigotry, or am I missing something?
...and they're lying about the project being blocked.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:47:26am |
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webevintage Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:47:32am |
I've always assumed that 2 in 5 Americans are total morons so that poll does not surprised me.
Hell, Beck said Obama was Satan...so people think he is the anti-Christ.
So who cares if a percentage of the stupid people in America think Obama might be a Muslim.
Plus most fundi evangelicals do not think that the rest of us are Christians anyway.
Espically us Cathoilics....and well, Mormons.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:48:07am |
re: #97 talon_262
RE Building a church destroyed on 9/11!!
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PapaWhisky Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:48:30am |
re: #80 talon_262
His father was a Muslim. We're talking about a country where a significant number of people think the rapture is imminent.
Who think dinosaurs frolicked with Eve.
Who think that god has a 'Plan' for everyone.
Is there any wonder that they would ascribe him a Muslim identity due to his father?
We're not talking about the American Intelligentsia here !
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tnguitarist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:48:30am |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:48:32am |
re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Rush was saying how can we really KNOW he is a Christian, when it seems like every Sunday, he plays golf instead of going to Church.
Yes, really.
Reagan wasn't a churchgoer. I don't recall anyone thinking he was a Muslim.
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Obdicut Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:48:49am |
re: #105 Killgore Trout
...and they're lying about the project being blocked.
Did Russia pay off the GOP to try to make America suck, or something?
It's really hard to find a reason for their actions. They're not going to be able to win more than the short term on the angry-white-people vote, and I'm not sure they can even win in the short term based on it.
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spikester Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:48:52am |
re: #90 Obdicut
you guys are so tweekable
you don't know me from adam
we should have a beer summit
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Killgore Trout Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:49:16am |
mosque
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:49:35am |
re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Rush was saying how can we really KNOW he is a Christian, when it seems like every Sunday, he plays golf instead of going to Church.
Yes, really.
Now, if he went to his mosque on Fridays, I would understand the confusion. But a Christian who doesn't go to church is just a Christian who doesn't go to church much.
(My GFIL is fond of telling his wife that you can be a Christian at home, when he declines to accompany her to services.)
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What, me worry? Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:49:52am |
re: #87 PT Barnum
I think that would be extremely cool...like I said, send me an email on my site...
YOU got mail :>
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:49:58am |
re: #24 reloadingisnotahobby
So when was the last time Rush was warming a pew??
That's different. NO ONE thinks Rush is a Muslim.
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TedStriker Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:50:00am |
re: #69 PapaWhisky
Sorry, talon.
What's the quota?
No quota, but if you don't want people to ascribe ulterior motives to you on the odd post you do make, it might be a good idea to be around a little more.
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Obdicut Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:50:08am |
re: #113 spikester
you guys are so tweekable
you don't know me from adam
we should have a beer summit
Maybe there's a reason for that.
And yes, people are tweakable. when you say stupid shit, people call it stupid.
This doesn't make what you say not stupid, nor you not stupid for saying it.
Sheesh people.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:50:31am |
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PapaWhisky Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:50:41am |
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tnguitarist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:50:45am |
re: #113 spikester
you guys are so tweekable
you don't know me from adam
we should have a beer summit
Good stuff! He'll be here all week, folks. Please, tip your bartender.
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Four More Tears Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:51:02am |
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Obdicut Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:51:06am |
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TedStriker Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:51:06am |
re: #118 SanFranciscoZionist
That's different. NO ONE thinks Rush is a Muslim.
Yeah, he's just a bigoted, xenophobic dirtbag....
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Killgore Trout Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:52:18am |
re: #121 Slumbering Behemoth
lebanon. Happy Ramadan!
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:53:10am |
re: #43 PapaWhisky
So if the majority subscribe to where they came from .. then it's no surprise that the majority ascribe to where HE came from
You mean, the man who was raised by his mother and grandparents, Christian Kansans all?
Now, on a more serious note, simply because most people follow the faith they were raised in, that doesn't mean that when someone tells you what theirs is, you get to double-check their veracity by checking their ancestors. We have freedom of religion around here, not a caste system.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:54:05am |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:54:39am |
re: #61 PapaWhisky
My parents were devout Catholics. I was "raised" Catholic. But I no more consider myself Catholic than i do druid.
But the vast majority of the people I meet ascribe me to my origins
So, you should feel some sympathy for the President's situation, then, as people 'ascribe him to his origins'--specifically, the origins that best suit their prejudices.
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TedStriker Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:54:48am |
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TedStriker Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:55:24am |
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webevintage Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:55:34am |
re: #43 PapaWhisky
So if the majority subscribe to where they came from .. then it's no surprise that the majority ascribe to where HE came from
You mean Kansas or Hawaii?
That's where he "came from"....
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Four More Tears Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:55:40am |
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Obdicut Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:56:07am |
re: #131 SanFranciscoZionist
He's already a mile into his backpedal, you'll never catch him now.
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PapaWhisky Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:56:12am |
re: #129 SanFranciscoZionist
WE might have freedom of religion. Politicians don't. They have to subscribe to some mainstream jiggery-pokery, pitch up at worship once a week and say G-d bless America when they declare war.
How likely is it that someone with O's education and background is very likely an atheist?
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Linden Arden Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:56:38am |
re: #109 PapaWhisky
His father was a Muslim. We're talking about a country where a significant number of people think the rapture is imminent.
Who think dinosaurs frolicked with Eve.
Who think that god has a 'Plan' for everyone.
Is there any wonder that they would ascribe him a Muslim identity due to his father?
We're not talking about the American Intelligentsia here !
Obama's father was an atheist with a Master's degree from Harvard. His
just an FYI.
I have not read his books - this info is straight from Wikipedia.
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Four More Tears Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:57:00am |
Here's a nice compendium of the bullshit that flies out of Geller's piehole:
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:57:17am |
re: #132 talon_262
"Finer than frog's hair", as my buddy used to say.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:58:10am |
re: #77 Obdicut
Well, that's stupid of them. I was raised Catholic. I'm an atheist. Strangely enough, people 'ascribe me to' being an atheist, since that's what I am.
seriously. it's not Judaism...you can't be 'born' a Christian. thus the passage about 'But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven' in the gospels. we are what we say we are.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:58:12am |
re: #109 PapaWhisky
His father was a Muslim. We're talking about a country where a significant number of people think the rapture is imminent.
Who think dinosaurs frolicked with Eve.
Who think that god has a 'Plan' for everyone.
Is there any wonder that they would ascribe him a Muslim identity due to his father?
We're not talking about the American Intelligentsia here !
So, your point is that Americans are dumb as rocks? I'm not prepared to accept that, quite yet.
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spikester Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:59:58am |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:00:17am |
re: #137 PapaWhisky
WE might have freedom of religion. Politicians don't. They have to subscribe to some mainstream jiggery-pokery, pitch up at worship once a week and say G-d bless America when they declare war.
How likely is it that someone with O's education and background is very likely an atheist?
1. No idea.
2. Not my business.
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PapaWhisky Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:00:21am |
re: #142 SanFranciscoZionist
So, your point is that Americans are dumb as rocks? I'm not prepared to accept that, quite yet.
You need to live in the South for a few years
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Ericus58 Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:00:40am |
re: #90 Obdicut
God, what a boring troll.
You don't got it, kid, you don't got that oomph, that wowza, that je ne sais quois. This town is gonna eat you alive, and you'll be stuck with the bill for the meal.
Perfect - have to practice the pronouncing...
"Just what the heck are ya tryin' to say, ya n00b?!"
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:00:51am |
re: #143 spikester
we are what we say we are.
don't think so
alrighty, then. what is your counterproposal? we are what we ___.
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wrenchwench Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:01:13am |
re: #139 JasonA
Here's a nice compendium of the bullshit that flies out of Geller's piehole:
Combine that with the one from Jeffrey Goldberg:
...This is a woman who once called me a "Jewicidal Jihadi" for advocating for peace and compromise in the Middle East. It's a clever phrase, true, but, moi? In other dank corners of the Interwebs, I'm thought of as a blood-and-soil Jewish nationalist. I didn't really address her charges at the time, because it was my impression that Geller was a marginal nutbag, but it seems as if she's setting the national agenda now on matters related to Islam and religious freedom. To which I say, Jesus H. Christ.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:01:23am |
re: #143 spikester
we are what we say we are.
don't think so
But you said it was 'what he says' that makes people think he's a Muslim.
Disconnect? Or just shit-disturbing?
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Linden Arden Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:02:12am |
re: #145 PapaWhisky
You need to live in the South for a few years
I'm with you there. I live in Atlanta but grew up in the sticks.
Lived in Calabasas, CA too. We are one great nation with vastly different tribes.
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ShaunP Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:02:16am |
re: #147 Aceofwhat?
alrighty, then. what is your counterproposal? we are ___.
what whoever yells the loudest says we are...
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RadicalModerate Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:02:39am |
re: #137 PapaWhisky
Only Republicans (and other SoCon parties) have any sort of "religious test" nowadays. There's many instances of Democrats either not stating their religious beliefs, or some outright stating that they are not of the "Christian" mold, that being Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, or even in a few cases atheist. And those people seem to be able to hold public office and serve quite honorably in their position.
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darthstar Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:02:40am |
What the fuck ever happened to civil discourse?
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:03:14am |
re: #150 spikester
Do
Ah. It's not 'say', it's 'do'.
What has Obama 'done' that indicates he's Muslim? Is he fasting this month? Does he abstain from alcohol? Prayer rug rolled up under the Resolute Desk?
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:03:18am |
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:03:19am |
re: #147 Aceofwhat?
alrighty, then. what is your counterproposal? we are what we ___.
Eat! Now when people call me a pussy, I can say it's true!
/
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PapaWhisky Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:03:21am |
re: #153 RadicalModerate
How many will come out and admit they are atheist?
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jaunte Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:03:27am |
“To be is to do”–Socrates.
“To do is to be”–Jean-Paul Sartre.
“Do be do be do”–Frank Sinatra.
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Kragar Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:03:35am |
I’ve completed my ordainment, and can now legally officiate a marriage that will be recognized in all fifty states. As you might expect, it was a long and arduous task involving years of study, strict spiritual discipline, studious reflection on the nature of man, and hopping across a series of crumbling pillars without spilling a glass of water to retrieve the precious Ajanti Dagger.
This is how religion works.
Oh wait, no it wasn’t. I went here, filled out some basic information and verified an email address. For those of you that didn’t visit that link, here’s a picture of the form.
There are no pages after that – that’s the entire thing. You get a verification email and click the link, and you’re done. Many states, including the one I live in, require no registration with the government whatsoever. Unfortunately, not all states are so trusting; some do screen the process. If so, they might require a Letter of Good Standing from your church, and then you’re pretty much screwed: That thing costs ten whole dollars. You can order it from the site. But most of you won’t have to do another damn thing. There are no quizzes, no ethical or moral questions – no qualifications, period. They don’t even ask if you have a criminal record. You could have spent the last decade serial raping baby panda bears in front of fourth grade classes on zoo field trips, and you can still become an ordained minister in most states
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:03:39am |
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:04:03am |
re: #150 spikester
Do
i'd accept that, save for the part where i'm not omniscient enough to observe the totality of a person's actions, and therefore lack the perspective to judge whether a person is lying or simply fallible. because i call myself a Christian, but i guarantee you that i fall short of my goals each day.
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tnguitarist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:04:05am |
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What, me worry? Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:04:17am |
re: #118 SanFranciscoZionist
That's different. NO ONE thinks Rush is a Muslim.
I have 1 Muslim acquaintance. I wish I knew more. This one fellow is an office friend.
Initially I thought he was Hispanic. He's very good looking, dark and spoke fluent Spanish. He went to college in Caracas so I asked him if he was Venezuelan. He said, no he was Lebanese. He didn't say anything else and I guess I just assumed Christian.
So one day we're sitting chatting and he says his sister saw Passion of the Christ and it really freaked her out. When there was a pause in the conversation, I kind of looked at him and I figured, what the hell, I'm just going to ask. I said, "Are you Christian?" He said, "No, I'm Muslim." I said, "Oh!" and he just stared at me. Weird silence. I said, "Well I'm Jewish!" He stared directly at my necklace (my Star) and said, "Uh, Yea, I know!" And we both laughed. That was the extent of our religious conversation.
I saw him today at the food stand and wished him a happy Ramadan (I don't know if that's the way to say it). We kissed (air cheek-to-cheek). He grabbed an empanada (meat pastry) and said, "I don't think this is kosher." And we laughed LOL I said it didn't have any cheese. "But the meat??" said he. I said, "Eat and enjoy your empanada."
I like him very much.
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RadicalModerate Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:04:22am |
re: #155 SanFranciscoZionist
Ah. It's not 'say', it's 'do'.
What has Obama 'done' that indicates he's Muslim? Is he fasting this month? Does he abstain from alcohol? Prayer rug rolled up under the Resolute Desk?
I know! I know!
He's appointed a record number of Jews to high-ranking political and judicial positions!
Oh wait.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:04:27am |
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jaunte Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:04:33am |
What's the difference between authenticity and ethical action?
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darthstar Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:05:00am |
re: #153 RadicalModerate
Only Republicans (and other SoCon parties) have any sort of "religious test" nowadays. There's many instances of Democrats either not stating their religious beliefs, or some outright stating that they are not of the "Christian" mold, that being Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, or even in a few cases atheist. And those people seem to be able to hold public office and serve quite honorably in their position.
Pete Stark (D-CA) is the only self-proclaimed athiest in congress, as far as I know. And I believe we have two members of congress (both Democrats) who are muslim. Everyone else, all 432 of them, claim either some flavor of Christianity or Judaism. In the Senate, that's 100 per cent.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:05:04am |
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Crimsonfisted Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:05:25am |
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Obdicut Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:05:38am |
re: #165 RadicalModerate
I know! I know!
He's appointed a record number of Jews to high-ranking political and judicial positions!
Oh wait.
Just like the Caliphs did in Cordoba!
/That's actually true.
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PapaWhisky Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:06:41am |
re: #168 darthstar
re: #168 darthstar
Pete Stark (D-CA) is the only self-proclaimed athiest in congress, as far as I know. And I believe we have two members of congress (both Democrats) who are muslim. Everyone else, all 432 of them, claim either some flavor of Christianity or Judaism. In the Senate, that's 100 per cent.
And is that reasonable? Generally .. they're all nuts. But do they ALL believe in the flying spaghetti head monster?
NO !
But American Politics forces them to align
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:07:11am |
re: #161 SanFranciscoZionist
What became of class?
I believe in a classless society......... i drink beer from the bottle :-p
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:07:19am |
Me and the Daily Camera rarely agree about much of anything, but their editorial today just about sums up my feelings, and probably the feelings of the majority of people right now. The fact that we aren't being heard is being utterly ignored by those who are certain that they know better.
It's not directly on-topic, but it says what needs to be said. The wheels have all fallen off the cart, and the cart's in the ditch, on fire.
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Obdicut Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:07:28am |
re: #170 Crimsonfisted
It freaked me out in its antisemitism.
And lots of people assured me it wasn't really antisemitic.
And then came the drunken antisemitic ramblings of Gibson.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was really antisemitic.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:08:36am |
re: #168 darthstar
Pete Stark (D-CA) is the only self-proclaimed athiest in congress, as far as I know. And I believe we have two members of congress (both Democrats) who are muslim. Everyone else, all 432 of them, claim either some flavor of Christianity or Judaism. In the Senate, that's 100 per cent.
There's nothing like diversity in a nations body politik - and thats nothing like diversity in a nations body politik.
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TedStriker Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:08:53am |
re: #174 really grumpy big dog Johnson
Me and the Daily Camera rarely agree about much of anything, but their editorial today just about sums up my feelings, and probably the feelings of the majority of people right now. The fact that we aren't being heard is being utterly ignored by those who are certain that they know better.
It's not directly on-topic, but it says what needs to be said. The wheels have all fallen off the cart, and the cart's in the ditch, on fire.
On fire and about to explode into smithereens...
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PapaWhisky Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:08:58am |
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Four More Tears Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:09:00am |
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What, me worry? Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:09:41am |
re: #170 Crimsonfisted
Why did the Passion freak her out? A good way or bad way?
Just curious.
I think it was the bloodiness. Apparently she ran screaming from her apartment to his apartment. I thought that was a little extreme myself, but I didn't see it.
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Bubblehead II Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:11:20am |
re: #160 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I did that through the Universal Life Church on Jan 25th 2000. Still haven't been asked to marry anyone yet.
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RadicalModerate Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:11:24am |
re: #168 darthstar
Pete Stark (D-CA) is the only self-proclaimed athiest in congress, as far as I know. And I believe we have two members of congress (both Democrats) who are muslim. Everyone else, all 432 of them, claim either some flavor of Christianity or Judaism. In the Senate, that's 100 per cent.
I'd have to do some research, but I think that a significant number of those congressmen are listed as "non-denominational", which in many instances translates to "non-practicing". Also, please don't limit your scope to just the US congress - there's a lot of other state and local-level elected officials too, you know.
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Kragar Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:11:36am |
re: #180 JasonA
Huh? I might have to post the Billy Madison gameshow clip...
The rambling incoherent response dialog?
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Nick Schroeder Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:13:56am |
Well, I'll be honest, I kind of have outrage fatigue at this point.
Now, as an atheist, I'm just left feeling jealous and starved for attention. The tears and tooth-gnashing of the lunatic brigade give me strength, and I had gotten used to a steady diet of at least a couple 'you're ruining America's a week. Now, the Muslims are getting all of my sweet DERP nectar.
I guess I have no choice but to open an Atheism Cultural Center right across the street from the XXXTREME ULTIMATE FREEDOM TOWER OF JESUS construction site if I ever hope to again receive the blissful sustenance of bigoted dominionist tears.
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Four More Tears Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:15:29am |
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What, me worry? Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:15:34am |
re: #160 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Sorry I missed this LOL
Back in the 80's, my g/f sent away for her Minister's license - $5. Basically just to see if she could. She got a very nice official looking certificate. We talked a lot about starting our own religion. She always wanted a job she could do from the house.
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Crimsonfisted Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:16:48am |
re: #175 Obdicut
It freaked me out in its antisemitism.
And lots of people assured me it wasn't really antisemitic.
And then came the drunken antisemitic ramblings of Gibson.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was really antisemitic.
It was the little weird creatures around Peter that freaked me out. I didn't see the antisemitism since Jesus and the Apostles are Jews and one movie will NOT dissuade me from my support for Israel so I wasn't looking for it. I don't know if I can watch it again.
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What, me worry? Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:17:26am |
re: #185 Nick Schroeder
Well, I'll be honest, I kind of have outrage fatigue at this point.
Now, as an atheist, I'm just left feeling jealous and starved for attention. The tears and tooth-gnashing of the lunatic brigade give me strength, and I had gotten used to a steady diet of at least a couple 'you're ruining America's a week. Now, the Muslims are getting all of my sweet DERP nectar.
I guess I have no choice but to open an Atheism Cultural Center right across the street from the XXXTREME ULTIMATE FREEDOM TOWER OF JESUS construction site if I ever hope to again receive the blissful sustenance of bigoted dominionist tears.
What you need is a big Cross with a red line through it. Oh and a Jewish Star and a Crescent Moon, both with red lines through them. That outa do it pretty good.
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Crimsonfisted Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:17:54am |
re: #181 marjoriemoon
I think it was the bloodiness. Apparently she ran screaming from her apartment to his apartment. I thought that was a little extreme myself, but I didn't see it.
If you aren't familiar with the story, then yeah. I put off for years before I could bring myself to watch it.
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Kragar Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:18:42am |
re: #186 JasonA
There's another one?
You could be talking about the puppy/industrial revolution part.
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allegro Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:20:57am |
re: #181 marjoriemoon
I think it was the bloodiness. Apparently she ran screaming from her apartment to his apartment. I thought that was a little extreme myself, but I didn't see it.
From what I've heard of it, it's pretty much 2 hours of torture pr0n that would have me running out screaming myself.
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Gus Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:22:31am |
re: #89 Killgore Trout
Today's outrageous outrage...
Fox: Decision Not to Rebuild Church Destroyed on 9/11 Surprises Greek Orthodox LeadersGOP: Why can't the Greek church at Ground Zero be rebuilt?
Reality: Church Destroyed On 9/11 Finding Resurrection Difficult
Oh brother. Anyway there's a video up with Doocy and company interviewing a Francoise from the Greek Orthodox Church of America. He at least says that it's not comparable to Cordoba House and then says "there is no Mosque at Ground Zero." But he goes on to say something about "the irony is not lost on the American people." I'm not sure if he's really directly associated with Saint Nicholas Church.
The video:
[Link: video.foxnews.com...]
Get a load of the graphic on the lower right which shows a flashing super-imposed crescent and star over a crucifix.
If they want to get the church rebuilt they're going to have to raise the cash.
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Obdicut Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:25:33am |
re: #192 allegro
From what I've heard of it, it's pretty much 2 hours of torture pr0n that would have me running out screaming myself.
There's also a lot of stuff about how when powerful Jews don't like you they go to any ends to destroy you. You know, good uplifting stuff like that.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:25:42am |
re: #165 RadicalModerate
I know! I know!
He's appointed a record number of Jews to high-ranking political and judicial positions!
Oh wait.
Well, time was when Muslims did that too. But now that 'Cordoba' is supposed to be a scare word...
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Four More Tears Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:35:41am |
re: #193 Gus 802
If they want to get the church rebuilt they're going to have to raise the cash.
I demand to know where the money is coming from.
/
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Fozzie Bear Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:55:12pm |
re: #168 darthstar
Pete Stark (D-CA) is the only self-proclaimed athiest in congress, as far as I know. And I believe we have two members of congress (both Democrats) who are muslim. Everyone else, all 432 of them, claim either some flavor of Christianity or Judaism. In the Senate, that's 100 per cent.
Yep. The United States is extremely hostile to atheism, at least as far as our political preferences go.
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Why Did More Than 1,000 People Die After Police Subdued Them With Force That Isn’t Meant to Kill? An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that, over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through physical holds, stun guns, body blows and other force not intended to be lethal. More: Why ... CheechakoKGxvi
Abortions Outside Medical System Increased Sharply After Roe Fell, Study Finds The number of women using abortion pills to end their pregnancies on their own without the direct involvement of a U.S.-based medical provider rose sharply in the months after the Supreme Court eliminated a constitutional right to abortion, according ... Cheechako
The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ... Cheechako
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
