Cordoba House Imam: ‘I Am a Jew, I Have Always Been One’

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Jeffrey Goldberg points out the speech given by Imam Feisal Rauf, who’s been viciously maligned as a “radical Islamist” and worse, at a memorial service for Daniel Pearl.

In 2003, Imam Rauf was invited to speak at a memorial service for Daniel Pearl, the journalist murdered by Islamist terrorists in Pakistan. The service was held at B’nai Jeshurun, a prominent synagogue in Manhattan, and in the audience was Judea Pearl, Daniel Pearl’s father. In his remarks, Rauf identified absolutely with Pearl, and identified himself absolutely with the ethical tradition of Judaism. “I am a Jew,” he said.

There are those who would argue that these represent mere words, chosen carefully to appease a potentially suspicious audience. I would argue something different: That any Muslim imam who stands before a Jewish congregation and says, “I am a Jew,” is placing his life in danger. Remember, Islamists hate the people they consider apostates even more than they hate Christians and Jews. In other words, the man many commentators on the right assert is a terrorist-sympathizer placed himself in mortal peril in order to identify himself with Christians and Jews, and specifically with the most famous Jewish victim of Islamism. You can read the full text of his remarks on the B’nai Jeshurun website, but here is an especially relevant portion:

We are here to assert the Islamic conviction of the moral equivalency of our Abrahamic faiths. If to be a Jew means to say with all one’s heart, mind and soul Shma` Yisrael, Adonai Elohenu Adonai Ahad; hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One, not only today I am a Jew, I have always been one, Mr. Pearl.

If to be a Christian is to love the Lord our God with all of my heart, mind and soul, and to love for my fellow human being what I love for myself, then not only am I a Christian, but I have always been one Mr. Pearl.

And I am here to inform you, with the full authority of the Quranic texts and the practice of the Prophet Muhammad, that to say La ilaha illallah Muhammadun rasulullah is no different.

It expresses the same theological and ethical principles and values.

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397 comments
1 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:45:05am

The character assassination of this man has really been beyond the pale.

2 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:45:41am

THAT SNEAKY BASTARD!
///

3 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:45:45am

The more I hear about this man, the more I find myself respecting him. To stand up before such an audience, in a synagogue, and say “I am a Jew,” is like painting a big-ass bullseye on his forehead in the eyes of the fanatics.

Claiming that he’s all but on Hamas’ payroll is not only ignorant, it’s a fraking disgrace.

4 Killgore Trout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:46:49am

Confession?
/911 was a zionist plot.

5 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:48:05am

re: #1 JasonA

The character assassination of this man has really been beyond the pale.

To add to this, if anything bad happens to him, I will raise a shit-storm against the likes of Rush, Hannity, and Geller over it.

6 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:48:50am

How can we live in harmony? First we need to know we are all madly in love with the same God.

- Saint Thomas Aquinas

7 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:48:51am

This is what a lot of Sufis are like, I’ve found. They emphasize the unifying elements in Islam.

As I’ve said:

Bin Laden would love to blow up this community center. Preferably while full of Sufis. Failing that, he’d love to disallow the building of any Sufi Mosque.

The right wing is doing Bin Laden’s work for him.

Good going, guys!

8 PapaWhisky  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:50:23am

re: #7 Obdicut

so why won’t Obama come out and support this guy?

9 spikester  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:50:35am

re: #5 JasonA

shit-storm

where?

10 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:50:35am

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I’m madly in love with the universe, is that still cool?

11 Big Steve  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:50:55am

This guy sounds like one of those “cool” pastors one would see at college campuses……I say let him build the mosque then invite Salman Rushdie to the dedication.

12 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:51:31am

Obvious troll is obvious.

13 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:51:52am

re: #10 Obdicut

I’m madly in love with the universe, is that still cool?

The wise religious people understand that it’s all the same thing.

14 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:52:39am

re: #10 Obdicut

I’m madly in love with the universe, is that still cool?

Yeah, its cool.

15 Big Steve  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:53:20am

re: #10 Obdicut

I’m madly in love with the universe, is that still cool?


I am madly in love with a 14 billion year old universe that randomly resulted in our existance through gradual predictable physical properties and Darwinian evolution.

16 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:54:05am

re: #9 spikester

shit-storm

where?

Check the inside of your mouth. A lot of it’s been coming from there lately.

17 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:54:14am

re: #15 Big Steve

I am madly in love with a 14 billion year old universe that randomly resulted in our existance through gradual predictable physical properties and Darwinian evolution.

Its cool that God can work that way and not resort to silly parlor tricks.

18 celticdragon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:54:27am

You won’t see a mention of this in the wing-o-sphere.

Most of the outrage bloggers probably have no idea what Sufi branch Islam even is.

19 spikester  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:54:30am

incoming!

20 PapaWhisky  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:54:34am

re: #15 Big Steve

that then ended up in three major mono-theistic religions that wanna tear each other hearts out !

21 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:55:00am

OT: Rush Limbaugh flaps his bloviating pie-hole regarding non-profit orgs, which prompts a response from Robert Egger.

Linky

22 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:55:19am

re: #18 celticdragon

You won’t see a mention of this in the wing-o-sphere.

Most of the outrage bloggers probably have no idea what Sufi branch Islam even is.

It’s all “racial Islam” to them.

23 Bob Levin  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:57:17am

There are ten tribes out there wandering around somewhere. Why not?

24 celticdragon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:59:36am

re: #15 Big Steve

I am madly in love with a 14 billion year old universe that randomly resulted in our existance through gradual predictable physical properties and Darwinian evolution.

More like Gouldian contingency.

If you re-ran the same events in Earth’s evolutionary history one thousand times, you would get an equal number of disparate results, and likely very different outcomes in evolution. Darwin seemed to assume that humanity was an inevitable outcome of steady evolutionary progress along a uniformitarian model. Actually, our emergence was anything but inevitable.

25 PapaWhisky  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:01:20pm

re: #24 celticdragon

Sounds like you’re quoting ID there.

The science is good … it just needed a little push

26 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:01:35pm

Whoa. Charles, have you been working under the hood?

27 ShaunP  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:02:50pm

re: #25 PapaWhisky

Sounds like you’re quoting ID there.

The science is good … it just needed a little push

Not sure how you got that from what celtic wrote. It’s pretty much the opposite of intelligent design…

28 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:03:49pm

re: #26 JasonA

Whoa. Charles, have you been working under the hood?

That was weird. I reloaded and all the blockquotes were set in a box. It looked really good. Reloaded again and they were gone.

29 Big Steve  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:04:52pm

re: #24 celticdragon
thats why I saidn “rando”

30 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:05:00pm

I cannot speak about what it means to be Christian or Muslim and I never would, but as a Jew, there is more to being Jewish than reciting the Shema with ones heart, mind and soul.

31 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:05:20pm

re: #21 Slumbering Behemoth

OT: Rush Limbaugh flaps his bloviating pie-hole regarding non-profit orgs, which prompts a response from Robert Egger.

Linky

What a shrill, neurotic idiot. He holds yearly telethons as “EIB Cure-a-Thon” for the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society. The Leukemia & Lymphoma Society is a non-profit. His brain dead, ditto headed audience won’t even think twice about what he says.

Just think, Michael Steele apologized to this guy.

32 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:07:23pm

Outrage Over Plans to Build Library Next to Sara Palin

33 wrenchwench  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:08:03pm

re: #31 Gus 802

You googled up just what I was thinking. Proof that Rush is a moron, or thinks all his listeners are so he can say any old thing and not get caught out.

34 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:08:09pm

Well done that man.

35 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:08:21pm

re: #25 PapaWhisky

Sounds like you’re quoting ID there.

The science is good … it just needed a little push

Nope. Simply that if you wound the clock back and re-ran the simulation there would be enough drift from random events that the result by this time would not be the same. Cheetahs (or homo sapien) might not have made it through the bottleneck. Equus species survive in North America, etc.

The Tree of Life’s branches simply would not leaf and twig the same.

Saying it needed a push is implying that we’re a planned for outcome. Gould’s point was that we were not.

That we fit the puddle does not imply that it was dug in advance for us.

36 celticdragon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:08:21pm

re: #25 PapaWhisky

Sounds like you’re quoting ID there.

The science is good … it just needed a little push

I beg your pardon??

The notion of contingency is utterly hostile to any “Intelligent Design” notion, if that is what you are getting at. Contingency presumes that evolution is random chance, although Simon Conway Morris argues here that :

“Gould sees contingency evolutionary history based on the luck of the draw—as the major lesson of the Burgess Shale. If you rerun the tape of evolution, he says, the results would surely come out differently. Some creature similar to Pikaia, a small eel-like animal with a rudimentary head, may have survived in Cambrian seas to become the ancestor of all vertebrates. If it hadn’t, Gould says, perhaps other—entirely different—major animal groups would have evolved instead from one of the Burgess Shale’s other “weird” body plans. Such a view, with its emphasis on chance and accident, obscures the reality of evolutionary convergence. Given certain environmental forces, life will shape itself to adapt. History is constrained, and not all things are possible.”

Stephan Jay Gould’s work of “Wonderful Life” was largely based on the groundbreaking research Simon Conway Morris did as a grad student in interpreting the famous Burgess Shale Fauna.

37 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:08:34pm

re: #32 Conservative Moonbat

Outrage Over Plans to Build Library Next to Sara Palin

I was gonna post that later :-(

38 celticdragon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:09:51pm

re: #29 Big Steve

thats why I saidn “rando”

True. I was expanding a a bit though, since Darwin really didn’t take random chance into account nearly as much as paleontologists do today…and the subject is still hotly debated.

39 wrenchwench  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:10:11pm

re: #30 Radicchio ad Absurdum

I cannot speak about what it means to be Christian or Muslim and I never would, but as a Jew, there is more to being Jewish than reciting the Shema with ones heart, mind and soul.

I don’t think he literally meant he thinks he’s a Jew. Were you offended by what he said?

40 celticdragon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:10:17pm

re: #37 wozzablog

I was gonna post that later :-(

Me too. I laughed like hell when I read it earlier.

41 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:10:17pm

Humans are products of intelligent design. We were created to be the foodstuff of the Elder Gods when they fall from the stars and anyone who believes differently is just plain delusional.

/

42 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:11:12pm

re: #36 celticdragon

Though it should be noted that Dawkins and Dennett have mostly superceded Gould’s work, at least in demonstrating that Gould and Lewontin in no way showed a mechanism for non-Darwinian evolution.

But you’re entirely right about things proceeding with a large degree of randomness— especially when you add in the Neutral Theory.

43 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:11:31pm

re: #39 wrenchwench

I don’t think he literally meant he thinks he’s a Jew. Were you offended by what he said?

I was thinking he was trying to comment on the similarities and common ground shared by all beliefs, but some people take offense to anything.

44 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:11:45pm

re: #41 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Humans are products of intelligent design. We were created to be the foodstuff of the Elder Gods when they fall from the stars and anyone who believes differently is just plain delusional.

/

Would you believe they want to build a church in downtown R’lyeh? The nerve of some people…

45 wrenchwench  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:12:23pm

re: #37 wozzablog

I was gonna post that later :-(

Post it in The Pages. Doesn’t matter whether it’s been posted before. Start your own Page.

46 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:12:30pm

re: #44 JasonA

Would you believe they want to build a church in downtown R’lyeh? The nerve of some people…

I believe the developers are calling it a snack bar.

47 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:12:55pm

re: #41 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The stars say “MARINATE YOURSELVES!”

48 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:13:06pm

re: #40 celticdragon

Me too. I laughed like hell when I read it earlier.

Well, sorry for ruining everyone’s plans, but I got to it FIRST.

49 celticdragon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:14:07pm

re: #48 Conservative Moonbat

Well, sorry for ruining everyone’s plans, but I got to it FIRST.

Well, upding for the early bird. :)

50 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:14:29pm

re: #46 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I believe the developers are calling it a snack bar.

Will they be serving squid, too?

51 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:14:50pm

Just as JFK said “Eiche Ein Berliner”..(sp)
…Making an important point!!

52 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:15:19pm

re: #50 JasonA

Will they be serving squid, too?

BIGOT!

53 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:15:33pm

re: #51 reloadingisnotahobby

Just as JFK said “Eiche Ein Berliner”..(sp)
…Making an important point!!

…that he was a jelly donut?

/

54 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:15:46pm

anyway. I just dropped in to post that. I’m returning to the daily attempts at productivity.

55 celticdragon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:15:49pm

re: #42 Obdicut

Though it should be noted that Dawkins and Dennett have mostly superceded Gould’s work, at least in demonstrating that Gould and Lewontin in no way showed a mechanism for non-Darwinian evolution.

But you’re entirely right about things proceeding with a large degree of randomness— especially when you add in the Neutral Theory.

I haven’t read Dawkins et al on the subject, but Simon Conway Morris has had quite a bit to say in adjusting Gould’s ideas where he gets a bit carried away. I think Gould get more right than wrong.

56 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:17:12pm

re: #39 wrenchwench

I don’t think he literally meant he thinks he’s a Jew. Were you offended by what he said?

After 9/11 the French Pres said “today we are all americans”………….

How many Americans were offended by that?……….

57 Jack Burton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:17:26pm

re: #51 reloadingisnotahobby

Just as JFK said “Eiche Ein Berliner”..(sp)
…Making an important point!!

5 years of German classes in High School and College are making this painful to read.

58 darthstar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:17:30pm

OT: Gravity

Youtube Video

59 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:17:50pm

re: #55 celticdragon

Oh quite. He advanced the field a lot.

If you haven’t read Darwin’s Dangerous Idea, by Dennett, do so. It’s brilliant.

60 Jack Burton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:17:57pm

re: #56 wozzablog

After 9/11 the French Pres said “today we are all americans”…

How many Americans were offended by that?…

I was! I’m not a cheese eating surrender monkey!

//

61 PapaWhisky  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:18:02pm

re: #36 celticdragon

tread carefully when you read these guys words literally. They had to pander to (or at least acknowledge) a far right religious reality. Even in the UK.


Much of their work is couched in a Holy God get-out clause.

62 Nick Schroeder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:18:19pm

Well, now the hyper-right can just switch from hating him for being a ‘terror imam’ to hating him for being a liberal progressive Muslim.

63 celticdragon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:19:47pm

re: #41 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Humans are products of intelligent design. We were created to be the foodstuff of the Elder Gods when they fall from the stars and anyone who believes differently is just plain delusional.

/

Cthulu is on the line. He/it/Ihavenoidea wants to have you for a snack have a few words with you…

64 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:20:47pm

Message from non-profits to Rush Limbaugh.

65 celticdragon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:21:39pm

re: #64 Gus 802

Message from non-profits to Rush Limbaugh.

Awesome sauce!

66 darthstar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:22:00pm

re: #32 Conservative Moonbat

Outrage Over Plans to Build Library Next to Sara Palin

Speaking of Sarah Palin and plans…her name is actually a seekrit mooslim code…you just have to rearrange the letters…

Sarah Palin - Sharia Plan

67 Yashmak  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:22:11pm

That’s a fascinating article.

68 ShaunP  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:22:31pm

re: #66 darthstar

Speaking of Sarah Palin and plans…her name is actually a seekrit mooslim code…you just have to rearrange the letters…

Sarah Palin - Sharia Plan

Oh, that’s too good… :p

69 sakublock  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:22:50pm

I wouldn’t jump to putting him up on a pedestal at the same token wouldn’t rush to judgement as some others have about nefarious intentions.

70 PapaWhisky  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:23:11pm

re: #66 darthstar

Speaking of Sarah Palin and plans…her name is actually a seekrit mooslim code…you just have to rearrange the letters…

Sarah Palin - Sharia Plan


Beauty !!

71 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:23:26pm

re: #66 darthstar

I knew it!

/wheels within wheels, man. wheels within wheels.

72 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:23:40pm

re: #63 celticdragon

Cthulu is on the line. He/it/Ihavenoidea wants to have you for a snack have a few words with you…

Image: cthulu.jpg

73 ShaunP  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:23:53pm

re: #69 sakublock

I wouldn’t jump to putting him up on a pedestal at the same token wouldn’t rush to judgement as some others have about nefarious intentions.

Who’s rushing? I think we’ve taken a pretty in-depth look at the Imam here…

74 RadicalModerate  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:24:01pm

Politico has posted a story about Barack Obama releasing photos of his official passport, listing Hawaii, USA as his place of birth. Because the date of issue and date of expiration are redacted (blurred) in the picture, and his SSN isn’t visible, the comments section of the article is a cesspool of racism, birtherism, conspiracy kookery, and even a few people calling to forcibly remove him from office.

This stuff is treading further and further into some really dangerous territory.

Don’t look, birthers: Obama’s passport

75 charles_martel  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:25:19pm
If to be a Christian is to love the Lord our God with all of my heart, mind and soul, and to love for my fellow human being what I love for myself, then not only am I a Christian, but I have always been one Mr. Pearl.

Unfortunately, that is not the definition of a Christian. Christians believe in the divinity of Christ, and Muslims deny this. That is a simple and irrefutable fact, but somehow I expect to be downdinged for this simple observation.

76 PapaWhisky  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:26:25pm

re: #74 RadicalModerate

Politico has posted a story about Barack Obama releasing photos of his official passport, listing Hawaii, USA as his place of birth. Because the date of issue and date of expiration are redacted (blurred) in the picture, and his SSN isn’t visible, the comments section of the article is a cesspool of racism, birtherism, conspiracy kookery, and even a few people calling to forcibly remove him from office.

This stuff is treading further and further into some really dangerous territory.

Don’t look, birthers: Obama’s passport

Jaysus !! Why would they blur that?? Talk about fuel to the fire !

77 wrenchwench  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:26:29pm

re: #75 charles_martel

Unfortunately, that is not the definition of a Christian. Christians believe in the divinity of Christ, and Muslims deny this. That is a simple and irrefutable fact, but somehow I expect to be downdinged for this simple observation.

By the logic of his statement, then, he is not a Christian. But we already knew that, didn’t we?

78 charles_martel  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:26:59pm

re: #77 wrenchwench

By the logic of his statement, then, he is not a Christian. But we already knew that, didn’t we?

And yet he claims to be one.

79 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:27:12pm

re: #56 wozzablog

After 9/11 the French Pres said “today we are all americans”…

How many Americans were offended by that?…

We were only offended when they refused to take part in the Iraq clusterf*ck. Then they became “cheese-eating surrender monkeys”.

80 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:27:17pm

re: #75 charles_martel

You’re ignoring what he actually is saying, though, and the import of an Imam saying “I am a Jew”.

Why ignore that in order to make a trivial point?

81 wrenchwench  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:28:10pm

re: #78 charles_martel

And yet he claims to be one.

It was an “if…then” statement. You want to take him literally. Go for it.

Read any poetry lately ever?

82 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:28:46pm

re: #75 charles_martel

Unfortunately, that is not the definition of a Christian. Christians believe in the divinity of Christ, and Muslims deny this. That is a simple and irrefutable fact, but somehow I expect to be downdinged for this simple observation.


Yunno, these are theological details that we need not let interfere with a)our personal efforts to lead a better and more moral life and b) our joint efforts to create a better and more just society.

83 darthstar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:29:19pm

McCain still kissing Bush’s ass.

Last American combat troops leave Iraq. I think President George W. Bush deserves some credit for victory.

84 sffilk  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:30:23pm

re: #66 darthstar

Speaking of Sarah Palin and plans…her name is actually a seekrit mooslim code…you just have to rearrange the letters…

Sarah Palin - Sharia Plan

You should tell her that!

85 wrenchwench  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:31:17pm

Somebody makes a statement of peace, trying to bring people together, and the reaction from some quarters is to pick it apart and drive people apart.

Watch for them to attribute the divisiveness to the Imam.

86 Nick Schroeder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:31:57pm

re: #74 RadicalModerate

Dear god, the comments section on that article goes from zero to insanity in .02 seconds.

87 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:32:18pm

re: #85 wrenchwench

Somebody makes a statement of peace, trying to bring people together, and the reaction from some quarters is to pick it apart and drive people apart.

Watch for them to attribute the divisiveness to the Imam.

Guaranteed.

88 celticdragon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:33:05pm

re: #72 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Image: cthulu.jpg

I’m keeping that one for my next visit to the DMV!

89 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:33:40pm

re: #86 Nick Schroeder

Dear god, the comments section on that article goes from zero to insanity in .02 seconds.

That’s actually .01 seconds slower than I would’ve expected.

90 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:33:40pm

The lightning is VERY CLOSE !
If I start spouting gibberish dial 911….
..and point them to the smoldering building…

91 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:34:47pm

re: #88 celticdragon

I’m keeping that one for my next visit to the DMV!

Image: cthulhu-evolution.png

92 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:35:58pm

re: #57 ArchangelMichael

5 years of German classes in High School and College are making this painful to read.

2 year of German……35 years ago..*

93 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:37:08pm

re: #88 celticdragon

I’m keeping that one for my next visit to the DMV!

Cool, I’ll get you a bigger version:

Image: O7TE7ULLLES46SLYDOHYD6ODF5WQDURQ.jpg

94 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:37:30pm

re: #82 ralphieboy

Yunno, these are theological details that we need not let interfere with a)our personal efforts to lead a better and more moral life and b) our joint efforts to create a better and more just society.

That seems pretty dismissive of religious Muslims, religious Christians and religious Jews. I imagine that many Muslims, Christians and Jews look to their religion and its teachings specifically to lead a better and more moral life for themselves, and to create a better and more just society. Your post implies that anyone who follows these faiths, including the Imam, whom I am pretty sure gets into the “theological details” of Islam (he is an Imam after all), is actually an impediment to a just and moral life personally, and a just and moral society.

95 Yashmak  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:37:33pm

re: #86 Nick Schroeder

Dear god, the comments section on that article goes from zero to insanity in .02 seconds.

I have to admit, I got a chuckle out of the commentor who noted the red star in the middle of his forehead.

96 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:38:13pm

Who knew Cthulhu was a redneck?

Image: cthulhu_final_moyen.jpg

97 celticdragon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:38:21pm

re: #83 darthstar

McCain still kissing Bush’s ass.

I still hear about our “victory” in Iraq (if you can call setting up a kleptocratic, incompetent government that still murders Sunnis and cozy’s up to Iran a victory), but I notice that nobody seems able to really define what the hell we won.

Meanwhile, this week another suicide bomber kills dozens of army recruits in line.

We didn’t “win” anything. We gave the Iraqis enough breathing time to get their shit together and reach a political solution between the religious factions. They did not take their chance to reconcile. They snatched their own defeat from the jaws of victory…and so we leave them to their own devices.

98 Michael McBacon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:39:06pm

Sekrit Zi0nist!!1

99 webevintage  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:39:33pm

re: #75 charles_martel

Unfortunately, that is not the definition of a Christian. Christians believe in the divinity of Christ, and Muslims deny this. That is a simple and irrefutable fact, but somehow I expect to be downdinged for this simple observation.

I am Spartacus….

100 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:39:51pm

re: #96 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Red Neck?
I can’t see the belly button ring!

101 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:39:59pm

re: #97 celticdragon

I still hear about our “victory” in Iraq (if you can call setting up a kleptocratic, incompetent government that still murders Sunnis and cozy’s up to Iran a victory), but I notice that nobody seems able to really define what the hell we won.

Meanwhile, this week another suicide bomber kills dozens of army recruits in line.

We didn’t “win” anything. We gave the Iraqis enough breathing time to get their shit together and reach a political solution between the religious factions. They did not take their chance to reconcile. They snatched their own defeat from the jaws of victory…and so we leave them to their own devices.

shhhhhhh!!!!

102 celticdragon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:40:15pm

re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Image: cthulhu-evolution.png

I couldn’t load that one for some reason :(

103 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:40:30pm

re: #100 reloadingisnotahobby

Red Neck?
I can’t see the belly button ring!

Its still under the wife beater.

104 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:40:50pm

re: #102 celticdragon

I couldn’t load that one for some reason :(

It’s because Cthulhu doesn’t want you to know…

105 ShaunP  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:41:02pm

re: #97 celticdragon

I still hear about our “victory” in Iraq (if you can call setting up a kleptocratic, incompetent government that still murders Sunnis and cozy’s up to Iran a victory), but I notice that nobody seems able to really define what the hell we won.

Meanwhile, this week another suicide bomber kills dozens of army recruits in line.

We didn’t “win” anything. We gave the Iraqis enough breathing time to get their shit together and reach a political solution between the religious factions. They did not take their chance to reconcile. They snatched their own defeat from the jaws of victory…and so we leave them to their own devices.

I heard a good quote from a Marine Captain this morning on NPR:

Captain BROOKS: You know, I think right now actually there’s sort of a quiet pride in knowing that we accomplished our mission. I think no one really expected that we’d be, you know, on the deck of some ship signing a formal peace treaty with Osama bin Laden. I think most people realize that the Iraq War, and counterinsurgency in general, is won in a kind of slow and gradual process and that fading away is sort of the best outcome, that it feels good to know that we left our partners and allies who we felt were capable and ready to take over. And really that, you know, it’s nice to know too that the last Americans to leave Iraq won’t be fleeing on a helicopter from the roof of the Embassy.

The whole thing is pretty darned good…

106 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:42:12pm

re: #99 webevintage

I am Spartacus…

I’m Spartacus

107 RadicalModerate  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:42:42pm

re: #89 MrSilverDragon

That’s actually .01 seconds slower than I would’ve expected.

The feedback there isn’t your run of the mill WND birtherist stuff, because what struck me about the comments section there was the Grade-A absolute lunacy of the posts. I don’t know which is scarier, the complete disconnection from reality that makes up the majority of the comments, or the fact that there were so MANY of them. Over a thousand comments.

108 palomino  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:43:18pm

re: #8 PapaWhisky

so why won’t Obama come out and support this guy?

Well, didn’t he just send they Imam on a goodwill mission to the ME? And also offer qualified words of support for Cordoba House?

Less than perfect, but far more than you’ll find from any
Republican candidate, or half the Dems. They are all too busy demagoguing this issue (largely as a wedge issue distraction from the economy which cannot be fixed easily or soon, so is largely ignored).

109 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:43:23pm

re: #106 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I’m Spartacus

I’m Spartacus!
Welcome to “What’s My Line”!!

110 celticdragon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:43:48pm

Gonna lay down for a bit. BBL.

111 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:45:41pm

re: #75 charles_martel

Unfortunately, that is not the definition of a Christian. Christians believe in the divinity of Christ, and Muslims deny this. That is a simple and irrefutable fact, but somehow I expect to be downdinged for this simple observation.

And the Willful Misinterpretation of the Year Award goes to… charles_martel!

*clap clap clap*

112 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:47:51pm

laters gators

113 wrenchwench  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:48:36pm

re: #111 Nimed

And the Willful Misinterpretation of the Year Award goes to… charles_martel!

*clap clap clap*

Ah, The WiMiYA. Nice presentation!

114 palomino  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:49:53pm
re: #77 wrenchwench

By the logic of his statement, then, he is not a Christian. But we already knew that, didn’t we?

And yet he claims to be one.

Geez, do you have one metaphorical or poetic bone in your body?

His statement is supposed to be figurative, like “Today we are all New Yorkers [on 9/11]” or, in its epic fail mode, “Today we are all Georgians [McCain making no sense]”

115 palomino  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:51:39pm

Sorry, #114 above is in response to charlie_the_hammer

116 General Nimrod Bodfish  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:52:25pm

Test post to see if my avatar is up and running.

117 Sakublock  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:52:52pm

re: #73 ShaunP

118 Yashmak  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:53:17pm

American Thinker publishes the latest blatant misrepresentation of the Cordoba House:

americanthinker.com

“During a White House dinner celebrating Ramadan, the president found it appropriate to come out in favor of religious freedom. Not in support of Christians being attacked by janjaweed gunmen, or Bahá’ís tormented by Iranian mullahs, or Jews being stalked by assassins, or even American citizens being told that they cannot pray in public, but in favor of a shadowy foreign foundation with suspicious financing and disturbing jihadi connections that wishes to build some kind of victory monument congruent to the site of the 9/11 massacre.”

Of course, no substantive indication of what the author meant by “shadowy”, “suspicious financing”, or “jihadi connections”.

I guess his readers are just supposed to swallow that bit without chewing on it.

119 wrenchwench  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:53:59pm

re: #115 palomino

Sorry, #114 above is in response to charlie_the_hammer

I won’t click on it, but he’s got “moneyart.biz” in his profile. Sounds the opposite of poetic.

120 garhighway  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:55:06pm

re: #114 palomino

Geez, do you have one metaphorical or poetic bone in your body?

His statement is supposed to be figurative, like “Today we are all New Yorkers [on 9/11]” or, in its epic fail mode, “Today we are all Georgians [McCain making no sense]”

When McCain said “We are all Georgians” he was simply quoting himself.

He last said those words during Sherman’s March to the Sea.

He was reminiscing.

121 Sakublock  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:55:20pm

re: #73 ShaunP

Google searches are not considered investigative journalism.

122 General Nimrod Bodfish  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:55:36pm

Now that I know my avatar works, on to the thread at hand…

Pretty ballsy, to me anyways, to say something like that when you have the radicals in the world ready to cut someone’s head off for the silliest of reasons. The more I read and hear about him, the more I like the fellow, and the more the bigots look like fools to Joe Public. I hope he’s successful in building the community center.

123 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:56:11pm

re: #116 commadore183

Test post to see if my avatar is up and running.

Actually, it looks like it’s just kinda sitting there, not running at all… but anyways, time for me to catch a nap before a late night of fiber cable migrations. Y’all have a great evening!

(and yeah, that is a cool image, commadore!)

124 General Nimrod Bodfish  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 12:57:07pm

re: #123 MrSilverDragon

LOL yeah, it’s so cool that it has stopped in time.

125 davesax  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:00:13pm

Rauf’s got Chutzpah.

And I mean that in the finest, Jewish sense of the word.

126 sagehen  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:00:26pm

re: #32 Conservative Moonbat

Outrage Over Plans to Build Library Next to Sara Palin

Damn brits have out-Onioned us.

127 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:00:39pm

Undisturbed artifacts will detail lives of Civil War prisoners

The find was detailed Wednesday by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, the Georgia Department of Natural Resources and Georgia Southern University.

The artifacts were found this spring on federal property, the currently closed Bo Ginn National Fish Hatchery. The camp’s location also extends into state property, the adjoining Magnolia Springs State Park.

Visitors got a chance to learn more about the dig in Wednesday’s open house at the state park. Only archaeologists and other officials are allowed on the actual dig site.

This discovery of so many Civil War-era items — including the smoking pipe, uniform buttons, a picture frame, coins, utensils, bullets and objects fashioned by Union prisoners — is unparalleled for many reasons, archaeologists said.

And the prisoner belongings from little-known Camp Lawton are believed to represent just a fraction of what will be uncovered, cleaned and analyzed for up to 30 years.

With the exception of a farmer’s plow 100 years ago, the 42 acres near Millen, Georgia, have been largely free of human touch

128 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:01:46pm

re: #21 Slumbering Behemoth

OT: Rush Limbaugh flaps his bloviating pie-hole regarding non-profit orgs, which prompts a response from Robert Egger.

Linky

I think I have to donate something to the DC Central Kitchen now, just on the basis of that response.

129 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:02:12pm

re: #15 Big Steve

I am madly in love with a 14 billion year old universe that randomly resulted in our existance through gradual predictable physical properties and Darwinian evolution.

It wasn’t random, but neither was the form we now take inevitable.

A being marveling that the world seems perfectly designed for it to live in is like a puddle marveling that the hole in the ground in which it sits is perfectly shaped to contain it.

Life adapts to it’s environment. The world isn’t designed for us, but rather we have adapted to it.

130 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:02:51pm

re: #125 davesax

Rauf’s got Chutzpah.

And I mean that in the finest, Jewish sense of the word.

He’s got big…big…*flips rapidly through Japanese-to-English dictionary, then finds word*…MARBLES! He’s got big marbles!

/

131 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:03:02pm

re: #129 Fozzie Bear


Life adapts to it’s environment. The world isn’t designed for us, but rather we have adapted to it.

This point is lost on lots of people, sadly.

132 sagehen  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:03:31pm

re: #56 wozzablog

After 9/11 the French Pres said “today we are all americans”…

How many Americans were offended by that?…

The same number of Berliners who ich bin eined.

133 Pass The Moonbaticide  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:03:33pm
to say La ilaha illallah Muhammadun rasulullah is no different.

Any Lizards able to translate that for us ?

/Genuinely Interested. Would li know.ke to

134 AlexRogan  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:04:19pm

re: #8 PapaWhisky

so why won’t Obama come out and support this guy?

re: #9 spikester

shit-storm

where?

The st00pid is strong with these two…

135 Pass The Moonbaticide  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:04:36pm

re: #133 Pass The Moonbaticide
Whoops … It got eated.

You know what I meant/

136 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:05:14pm

re: #135 Pass The Moonbaticide


Whoops … It got eated.

You know what I meant/

Yes, I did know what you meant, and that kinda disturbs me…

137 Bubblehead II  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:06:38pm

Here is an interesting article from the Middle East Online.

Mosque Furor Endangers US Troops

The message to the Islamic world couldn’t be clearer: Americans do see the ‘war on terror’ as a war against Islam, not just against a few violent extremists but against all Muslims including moderates who have risked their own lives to condemn Islamic radicalism, notes Robert Parry.

138 ShaunP  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:07:00pm

re: #121 Sakublock

Google searches are not considered investigative journalism.

I don’t think you need a research crew to interpret that the things he’s said in public and written are not radical…

139 PapaWhisky  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:07:14pm

re: #134 talon_262

steady lad … you’re easily out ranked here.

140 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:09:01pm

re: #139 PapaWhisky

Never go full retard.

141 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:09:24pm

re: #139 PapaWhisky

steady lad … you’re easily out ranked here.

Out ranked? What kind of shit are you talking about?

142 jaunte  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:09:44pm

re: #137 Bubblehead II

Here is an interesting article from the Middle East Online.

Mosque Furor Endangers US Troops

The message to the Islamic world couldn’t be clearer: Americans do see the ‘war on terror’ as a war against Islam, not just against a few violent extremists but against all Muslims including moderates who have risked their own lives to condemn Islamic radicalism, notes Robert Parry.


I hope everyone gets this message:

Even worse, the Americans most likely to pay for this political posturing are the US troops on the front lines. The Right and the neocons may profit at the polls but the price will be paid in blood, mostly by American soldiers and US allies in faraway places like Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq.
143 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:10:13pm

re: #140 Jeff In Ohio

Never go full retard.

Would that be like Full Metal R…

I better not. I promised not to do that again.

//

144 PapaWhisky  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:10:21pm

re: #141 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Out ranked? What kind of shit are you talking about?

Steadyyyy ….

145 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:10:33pm

re: #141 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Out ranked? What kind of shit are you talking about?

I think he’s just trying to prove Talon right. Kinda pointless, really. His standing is quite secure…

146 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:11:33pm

Charles should warn us when registration is open so we can bring our hip waders.

147 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:13:48pm

OK, Hollywood is officially out of ideas.

Peter Berg boards ‘Battleship’

Universal has set July 1, 2011, for the release of “Battleship,” confirming Peter Berg as helmer of the live-action pic based on Hasbro’s naval combat board game.

…
Universal has set July 1, 2011, for the release of “Battleship,” confirming Peter Berg as helmer of the live-action pic based on Hasbro’s naval combat board game.

148 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:15:04pm

re: #147 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

BAH, meant to include

Aside from “Battleship” and “Stretch Armstrong,” U is separately developing “Clue” with Gore Verbinski, “Monopoly” with Ridley Scott, “Candyland” with director Kevin Lima, and “Ouija” with Michael Bay’s Platinum Dunes. As a board game, “Battleship” was launched by Milton Bradley in 1967 and has sold more than 100 million units.

149 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:15:08pm

re: #147 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OK, Hollywood is officially out of ideas.

Peter Berg boards ‘Battleship’

*Bangs head repeatedly against nearest wall*

150 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:15:28pm

Pammy responds to the Boorstein article: “But the new headline labeling us “anti-Muslim” is not just silly and stupid; it is malicious, libelous, and dangerous to us personally.”

lol

Sorry, Pam, but when you pay good money to run ads that convince people to leave their religion… yeah, you’re a bigot. No need to be defensive.

151 recusancy  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:15:37pm

re: #56 wozzablog

After 9/11 the French Pres said “today we are all americans”…

How many Americans were offended by that?…

McCain said “today, we are all Georgians” in ‘08 too.

152 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:16:07pm

re: #142 jaunte

Unfortunately, the people that need to get that message are be stuck in a reaffirming loop of derangement.

153 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:16:40pm

re: #151 recusancy

McCain said “today, we are all Georgians” in ‘08 too.

Which is funny, since I doubt most Americans knew what “Georgia” he was talking about.

154 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:17:24pm

re: #148 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Candyland could be scary.

Youtube Video

155 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:18:08pm

re: #153 JasonA

Which is funny, since I doubt most Americans knew what “Georgia” he was talking about.

I kept looking out my office window for the Russian tanks. /

156 Jack Burton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:18:38pm

re: #147 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OK, Hollywood is officially out of ideas.

Peter Berg boards ‘Battleship’

LOLWUT?!?

Are they fucking serious? What’s next: “Shoots and Ladders in IMAX 3D!”

157 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:18:38pm

re: #153 JasonA

Which is funny, since I doubt most Americans knew what “Georgia” he was talking about.

Georgia Engel?

158 rwdflynavy  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:19:14pm

re: #156 ArchangelMichael

LOLWUT?!?

Are they fucking serious? What’s next: “Shoots and Ladders in IMAX 3D!”

Mousetrap

159 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:19:19pm

re: #156 ArchangelMichael

LOLWUT?!?

Are they fucking serious? What’s next: “Shoots and Ladders in IMAX 3D!”

That I can visualize.

160 Ericus58  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:19:32pm

re: #66 darthstar

Speaking of Sarah Palin and plans…her name is actually a seekrit mooslim code…you just have to rearrange the letters…

Sarah Palin - Sharia Plan

LOL - Thread Winner!!!
sorry I’m behind the curve here… nuthouse at work with 3rd and 4th level mangaers running around muddying up my area…

161 Bubblehead II  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:20:25pm

Time to some things.

L8R

162 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:20:59pm

Hungry Hungry Hippos starring Queen Latifa, Rosie O’Donnel, Oprah Winfrey and Lisa Lampanelli. /

163 Jack Burton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:22:01pm

Hungry Hungry Hippos: Safari of BLOOD.
In eye-popping Real3D!

This film not yet rated

164 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:22:34pm

re: #156 ArchangelMichael

LOLWUT?!?

Are they fucking serious? What’s next: “Shoots and Ladders in IMAX 3D!”

The LARP version of Hungry Hungry Hippos looks pretty hilarious:

Youtube Video

165 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:23:49pm

Stephen Spielburg presents a three movie epic:

Rock - A new strata

Paper - The wrapper strikes back

Scissors - Return of the cutlery

166 AlexRogan  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:24:30pm

re: #148 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

BAH, meant to include

Aside from “Battleship” and “Stretch Armstrong,” U is separately developing “Clue” with Gore Verbinski, “Monopoly” with Ridley Scott, “Candyland” with director Kevin Lima, and “Ouija” with Michael Bay’s Platinum Dunes. As a board game, “Battleship” was launched by Milton Bradley in 1967 and has sold more than 100 million units.

Umm, Clue has already been done up…and it’s one of the best ensemble comedies ever done, IMO. ;-)

167 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:24:31pm

re: #165 DaddyG

Stephen Spielburg presents a three movie epic:

Rock - A new strata

Paper - The wrapper strikes back

Scissors - Return of the cutlery

Pong: The Legacy Continues

168 BrainFromArous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:25:29pm

@85,

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Hnstly, dn’t knw wht pnt Gldbrg thnks Rf s mkng. Tht th thr brhmc rlgns hv sm thngs n cmmn: mnthsm, chn f prphtc rvltns, tc.?

Wll, sr. vn th mst hrdcr Whbst, ltr-rthdx Jw r fndmntlst Bptst wld dmt tht. Ths hrdly mks th vry rl dffrncs btwn thm ny lss mprtnt.

Rf - r nyn ls - cn nly b Jw ND Chrstn by dfnng ths fths, s wll s hs wn slm, dwn t th pnt whr thy r bltrtd s dstnct, mnngfl blf systms.

D w qvct btwn vrs dffrnt pltcl dlgs by syng, “Hy, w ll blv n gvrnmnt?” N. Th dvl s n th dtls - f y wll frgv th xprssn.

nd th dtls r prcsly wht Rf s tryng t ld, s vdncd by hm syng,

” Lrd! Tdy w hv cm t pry fr th sl f Dnl Prl, wh lst hs lf n th nm f rlgs dffrnc.”

Rlgs dffrnc. Yh, tht’s n wy t pt t - wy tht hds mr thn t xplns, dsrgrdng WH nd WHM.

sttmnt f pc, ll rght.

169 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:25:35pm

re: #167 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Pong: The Legacy Continues


Pong II the ball returns.

170 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:25:46pm

re: #166 talon_262


Umm, Clue has already been done up…and it’s one of the best ensemble comedies ever done, IMO. ;-)

Never underestimate the power of Hollywood to fuck up a classic.

171 ShaunP  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:26:41pm

I’m starting to think this is a coordinated attack of sleeper agents…

172 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:27:08pm

I shudder at the thought of Micheal Bay’s “Ouija”.

How is he going to get the ouija board to blow up more than once?

173 rwdflynavy  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:27:23pm

re: #171 ShaunP

I’m starting to think this is a coordinated attack of sleeper agents…


He misspelled Brainfromanus…

174 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:27:33pm

re: #168 BrainFromArous


HEY I HAVE A GREAT IDEA LETS FOCUS HARDER ON THOSE THINGS THAT DIVIDE PEOPLE AND TURN THEM AGAINST EACH OTHER! WHAT COULD GO WRONG???

175 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:28:38pm

re: #168 BrainFromArous

We all have brains capable of rational thought.

Thats me blowing smoke to cover the fact that some people are idiots.

176 Flavia  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:29:16pm

I’m thrilled to hear this. Makes me change my mind about the whole thing. Even better, makes me so much happier about the human race in general.

177 Jack Burton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:29:25pm

re: #170 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Umm, Clue has already been done up…and it’s one of the best ensemble comedies ever done, IMO. ;-)Never underestimate the power of Hollywood to fuck up a classic.

I was pretty sure I was going to want to drop a neutron bomb on hollywood if they fucked up LotR. They dodged a bullet there.

Now they want to remake Clue?? Also, supposedly they are remaking or making a prequel to Forbidden Planet…

Watch out Hollywood, the neutron bomb awaits..

/really not serious, but damn plz dont mess the classics up.

178 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:30:31pm

re: #168 BrainFromArous

Jesus, are you people™ * this fucking stupid or do you just lack the capacity recognize and embrace empathy?

* this pejorative trademark used with the implied permission of Ross Perot.

179 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:30:49pm

re: #173 rwdflynavy

He misspelled Brainfromanus…

*snort*

180 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:31:24pm

>

snicker
181 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:31:43pm

re: #177 ArchangelMichael

I was pretty sure I was going to want to drop a neutron bomb on hollywood if they fucked up LotR. They dodged a bullet there.

Now they want to remake Clue?? Also, supposedly they are remaking or making a prequel to Forbidden Planet…

Watch out Hollywood, the neutron bomb awaits..

/really not serious, but damn plz dont mess the classics up.

They’re currently working on a prequel to The Thing and if they mess that up, I’m going to go Dad from Frailty on them.

182 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:32:10pm

re: #174 Fozzie Bear

HEY I HAVE A GREAT IDEA LETS FOCUS HARDER ON THOSE THINGS THAT DIVIDE PEOPLE AND TURN THEM AGAINST EACH OTHER! WHAT COULD GO WRONG???

The children of Abraham are still killing each other thousands of years after Hagar and Sarah’s boys got into a fight.

Never underestimate the power of people to make a bad thing worse with a grudge.

183 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:32:15pm

re: #178 Jeff In Ohio

Jesus, are you people™ * this fucking stupid or do you just lack the capacity recognize and embrace empathy?

* this pejorative trademark used with the implied permission of Ross Perot.

“What do you mean ‘you people’?”

/

184 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:34:11pm

re: #183 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

“What do you mean ‘you people’?”

/

You know. The them in “us vs. them”.

185 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:34:17pm

re: #178 Jeff In Ohio

Jesus, are you people™ * this fucking stupid or do you just lack the capacity recognize and embrace empathy?

* this pejorative trademark used with the implied permission of Ross Perot.

Once The Other™ has been eliminated, then we can sit down and talk and think and all that liberal shit you spineless progs do. There are people different from me out there that must be assimilated or purged, so there’s no time left to waste on your “empathy” right now. OMFG ITS AN EMERGENCY PANIC PANIC!!!

Oh, also you liberals are cowards.


/

186 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:36:01pm

lol spikester doesn’t get sarcasm

187 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:36:32pm

re: #184 DaddyG

You know. The them in “us vs. them”.

Speaking of Them.

‘Zombie Ants’ Controlled by Parasite Existed 46 Million Years Ago

Zombie ants,” or carpenter ants that are transformed into “zombies” by parasitic fungus, existed as far back as 48 million years ago, scientists have discovered.

Evidence of the parasitism was found on a fossilized leaf that grew in the Messel Pit, located in Germany, and was discovered by the University of Exeter’s Dr. David P. Hughes, who studies parasites that can take over the minds of their hosts. News of their findings was published on the university’s website.

The fungus, Ophiocordyceps unilateralis, has the ability to control the minds of infected carpenter ants and lead them away from their colony to a leaf that is an ideal reproductive site for the fungus.

188 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:36:41pm

You know what would make a hilarious movie based on a game? Dungeons and Dragons.

Oh.

wait.

189 Killgore Trout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:36:49pm

Spencer and Geller are really in a froth about being labeled “anti-Muslim” by the MSM.

190 darthstar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:37:13pm

re: #173 rwdflynavy

He misspelled Brainfromanus…

Exactly what I was going to say…well done.

191 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:37:44pm

re: #187 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Speaking of Them.

‘Zombie Ants’ Controlled by Parasite Existed 46 Million Years Ago

Oh crap! Break out the desenex.

192 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:37:49pm

re: #168 BrainFromArous

This kind of asshole, right here, is why the establishment clause is possibly the single most important concept in the constitution.

If church and state are not completely and totally separated, bad things happen.

193 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:38:14pm

re: #165 DaddyG

Stephen Spielburg presents a three movie epic:

Rock - A new strata

Paper - The wrapper strikes back

Scissors - Return of the cutlery

Anecdote:
My brother and I do RPS to decide who picks up tabs after dinners, bar bills, and other miscellaneous decisions of that sort.

So, soon after he got married a RPS decision came up between him and his wife (who is a Chinese-descent Malaysian from Kuala Lumpor). So they did RPS and instead of a “normal” rock, paper, or scissor sign she did one my brother did not know.

Brother: “What’s that?”

S-in-law: “Bird. It drinks water (their equiv of paper), and it beaten by rock. (So it’s a Scissor equivalent.)

Brother (humorously): Bird?!? So it loses to all of them. Rock crushes bird, Scissors cut bird up. Paper wraps it for market.

Story proceeds to end in an unamused sister-in-law…

But not that “rock” appears to retain it’s universal appeal.

194 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:38:20pm

re: #188 DaddyG

You know what would make a hilarious movie based on a game? Dungeons and Dragons.

Oh.

wait.

Greyhawk, Forgotten Realms, Ravenloft, Planescape, Dragonlance and Athas all with hundreds of different characters, settings and history and they still managed to fuck it up.

195 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:38:46pm

re: #189 Killgore Trout

Spencer and Geller are really in a froth about being labeled “anti-Muslim” by the MSM.

What; too limiting?
Anti-people, anti-sense, anti-social…

196 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:39:07pm

re: #188 DaddyG

You know what would make a hilarious movie based on a game? Dungeons and Dragons.

Oh.

wait.

Yeah, Hollywood’s creatively bankrupt. Turning board games into movies, remaking iconic movies with “modern” stars, making sequels/prequels to old classics, making “live action” versions of old cartoons.

197 Taqyia2Me  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:41:09pm

re: #189 Killgore Trout

Spencer and Geller are really in a froth about being labeled “anti-Muslim” by the MSM.

Took the MSM long enough!
Job well done, Charles and Lizards!!

198 Killgore Trout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:41:45pm

re: #195 DaddyG

What; too limiting?
Anti-people, anti-sense, anti-social…

I think they’re getting off easy. They pal around with people who give Nazi salutes in public, march to lay flowers on SS soldiers graves and want to ethnically cleanse Europe. Anti Islam is among the nicer things I can say about hem.

199 darthstar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:42:15pm

re: #189 Killgore Trout

Spencer and Geller are really in a froth about being labeled “anti-Muslim” by the MSM.

Heh…there’s nothing like being publicly humiliated to make a person realize what an asshole they’ve been.

200 Killgore Trout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:43:00pm

re: #197 Taqyia2Me

Took the MSM long enough!
Job well done, Charles and Lizards!!

Yup Charles and LGF has earned a huge “I told you so”. The counter jihad folks willingly walked right into this.

201 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:43:13pm

re: #196 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, Hollywood’s creatively bankrupt. Turning board games into movies, remaking iconic movies with “modern” stars, making sequels/prequels to old classics, making “live action” versions of old cartoons.

The sad part is there must be thousands of classic, mystery, science fiction, fantasy, romance, youth, biography and other literature that could be used as the basis for some awesome movies.

202 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:43:20pm

re: #189 Killgore Trout

Spencer and Geller are really in a froth about being labeled “anti-Muslim” by the MSM.

“Perhaps you have heard Russian epic of Cinderella? If shoe fits, wear it! “

203 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:43:28pm

re: #193 oaktree

Anecdote:
My brother and I do RPS to decide who picks up tabs after dinners, bar bills, and other miscellaneous decisions of that sort.

So, soon after he got married a RPS decision came up between him and his wife (who is a Chinese-descent Malaysian from Kuala Lumpor). So they did RPS and instead of a “normal” rock, paper, or scissor sign she did one my brother did not know.

Brother: “What’s that?”

S-in-law: “Bird. It drinks water (their equiv of paper), and it beaten by rock. (So it’s a Scissor equivalent.)

Brother (humorously): Bird?!? So it loses to all of them. Rock crushes bird, Scissors cut bird up. Paper wraps it for market.

Story proceeds to end in an unamused sister-in-law…

But not that “rock” appears to retain it’s universal appeal.

John Crichton: Again?
Ka D’Argo: Yeah.
John Crichton: One, two, three.
[John throws paper, D’Argo throws rock]
Ka D’Argo: [laughs] Again, I win.
John Crichton: No, I win. Paper wraps rock.
Ka D’Argo: No, paper cannot possibly beat rock.
John Crichton: It does. Paper beats rock.
Ka D’Argo: Rock rips through paper.
John Crichton: D’Argo, that’s not how it works. Paper beats rock.
Ka D’Argo: That’s unrealistic.
John Crichton: Well, it’s the rules. And it’s not suppose to be realistic, it’s supposed to be entertaining.
Ka D’Argo: My coma was more entertaining.

204 wrenchwench  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:43:47pm

re: #168 BrainFromArous

Oh, “@85,” that was me!

Religious difference. Yeah, that’s one way to put it - a way that hides more than it explains, disregarding WHO and WHOM.

A statement of peace, all right.

As I recall (actually, the search function helped), you were all upset about the Mexican American kids and the flag issue from May 5th, too.

Do you have a problem with sharing the USA with people who are not just like you?

205 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:44:31pm

re: #196 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, Hollywood’s creatively bankrupt. Turning board games into movies, remaking iconic movies with “modern” stars, making sequels/prequels to old classics, making “live action” versions of old cartoons.

The Land Before Time Part 37. Littlefoot’s Nursing Home Adventure.

206 AlexRogan  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:45:45pm

re: #202 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

“Perhaps you have heard Russian epic of Cinderella? If shoe fits, wear it! “

One of my favorite bits from Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country (which is somewhat underrated, IMO…I think it’s one of the best of the TOS films)…and that scene is the genesis of the Star Trek facepalms, I think.

207 wrenchwench  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:46:06pm

re: #189 Killgore Trout

Spencer and Geller are really in a froth about being labeled “anti-Muslim” by the MSM.

They are watching their money-raising abilities dwindle. Reasonable people won’t want to be associated with them, so they’ll become more reliant on the really rabid supporters. Hopefully those are the ones with fewer resources.

208 darthstar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:47:15pm

re: #200 Killgore Trout

Yup Charles and LGF has earned a huge “I told you so”. The counter jihad folks willingly walked right into this.

This line from Spencer’s email is funny:

And above all, despite the promiscuous Goebbels-style Big-Lie application of the term to Pamela Geller and me by the likes of Honest Ibe Hooper of Hamas-linked CAIR and his tool Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs, it simply isn’t true.

Big-Lie…isn’t that a Breitbart site?

Goebbels, Goebbels, Goebbels

209 Kruk  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:48:48pm

re: #202 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

“Perhaps you have heard Russian epic of Cinderella? If shoe fits, wear it! “

Bah. You cannot truly appreciate Cinderalla till you hear it in the original Klingon.

210 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:48:52pm

re: #189 Killgore Trout

Spencer and Geller are really in a froth about being labeled “anti-Muslim” by the MSM.

Odd.
That’s exactly what they are.

Are they trying to deny it?

211 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:49:13pm

re: #207 wrenchwench

They are watching their money-raising abilities dwindle. Reasonable people won’t want to be associated with them, so they’ll become more reliant on the really rabid supporters. Hopefully those are the ones with fewer resources.

Let us hope and pray that is the case.

212 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:49:52pm

It would be fun to ask them to explain exactly how they are pro-Muslim and play the tape back with a twister game going on in the background. Someone call the Daily Show.

213 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:50:06pm

re: #201 DaddyG

The sad part is there must be thousands of classic, mystery, science fiction, fantasy, romance, youth, biography and other literature that could be used as the basis for some awesome movies.

Unfortunately, such great material always seems to wind up in one of three piles:

1. Practically impractical: The cost of production and distribution would be so expensive that, even with the Dark Knight’s numbers, it wouldn’t make back the money spent. Or the technology needed to make the film “believable” simply doesn’t exist, like with Avatar.

2. Nothing’s Taboo (Except When It’s Taboo): Some of the material is considered “too risky” with current movie-goers, such as how the “Arab terrorist” market dried up back after 9/11. Movie execs refuse to touch such stuff unless it can be made “audience-friendly,” but in many cases doing so would pretty much make the movie pointless.

3. Development Hell: Execs love the idea, the numbers seem to match up…and then something goes horribly wrong. The director splits, the actor(s) split/die/are busy/etc, the creator has second-thoughts about agreeing to the adaptation, the economy crashes, etc. The list of movies sitting in Development Hell reads like a “who’s who” of every major cultural fad in the last 30-40 years.

214 wrenchwench  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:50:53pm

re: #210 reine.de.tout

Odd.
That’s exactly what they are.

Are they trying to deny it?

They deny it at every opportunity. It makes my jaw drop.

215 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:51:24pm

re: #213 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I was really disappointed when Red Dwarf movie production was aborted over funding issues.

216 AlexRogan  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:51:29pm

re: #196 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, Hollywood’s creatively bankrupt. Turning board games into movies, remaking iconic movies with “modern” stars, making sequels/prequels to old classics, making “live action” versions of old cartoons.

When you have a Hollywood studio that is trying to make Space Invaders into a movie, you know there’s a problem…

/frakking Space Invaders!!!

217 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:52:12pm

re: #133 Pass The Moonbaticide

Any Lizards able to translate that for us ?

/Genuinely Interested. Would li know.ke to


There is no god but God, and Mohammed is His messenger.

long explanation

218 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:52:16pm

re: #213 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Case in point, Del Toro was shopping the “At the Mountains of Madness” movie idea around for years but no studio would back him unless he included either a love story or a happy ending.

219 Killgore Trout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:52:40pm

re: #210 reine.de.tout

Odd.
That’s exactly what they are.

Are they trying to deny it?

Yes. They are claiming that journalists who label them as anit-Muslim are endangering their lives (because it makes the violent Muslims angry)

220 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:53:14pm

re: #216 talon_262

When you have a Hollywood studio that is trying to make Space Invaders into a movie, you know there’s a problem…

/frakking Space Invaders!!!

Space InvadersFuturama New EpisodesA New Comedy from Will Ferrell and Adam McKay

221 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:53:25pm

Hola..

222 ShaunP  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:53:45pm

re: #219 Killgore Trout

Yes. They are claiming that journalists who label them as anit-Muslim are endangering their lives (because it makes the violent Muslims angry)

LOL. Even their denial is anti-muslim…

223 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:53:54pm

re: #221 PT Barnum

Hola..

FOREIGNER! GET HIM!
/

224 Killgore Trout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:53:55pm

Meanwhile Pam allows comments like this about journalists to be posted on her blog….

Michelle Boorstein is a cancerous pervert: she is getting a sexual kick out of this. I can’t wait for the islamic pie to hit the dhimmifull in the face - or wherever they see fit!

The Saudis have created a new form of punishment: by paralysis. The Boor deserves this:

225 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:54:44pm

re: #177 ArchangelMichael

I was pretty sure I was going to want to drop a neutron bomb on hollywood if they fucked up LotR. They dodged a bullet there.

It would have been so easy to make a box office hit that at the same time would piss off al the fans of the re: #194 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Greyhawk, Forgotten Realms, Ravenloft, Planescape, Dragonlance and Athas all with hundreds of different characters, settings and history and they still managed to fuck it up.

Maybe that’s the problem, they should have committed to one world. Now that they have learned from this and other mistakes, the next D&D movie will surely be awesome.

/how the hell did they get Jeremy Irons?

226 AlexRogan  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:55:31pm

re: #224 Killgore Trout

Meanwhile Pam allows comments like this about journalists to be posted on her blog…

Michelle Boorstein is a cancerous pervert: she is getting a sexual kick out of this. I can’t wait for the islamic pie to hit the dhimmifull in the face - or wherever they see fit!
The Saudis have created a new form of punishment: by paralysis. The Boor deserves this:

Me thinks the rabid wingnuts doth protest too much…

227 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:55:53pm

Al Franken pushing back HARD against the Ground Zero Mosque crazies:

Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) said on Wednesday that conservative criticism of plans to develop a mosque and Islamic community center in close proximity to “Ground Zero” in New York City is “one of the most disgraceful things that I’ve heard.”

Unambiguous and awesome.

228 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:56:06pm

re: #218 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Case in point, Del Toro was shopping the “At the Mountains of Madness” movie idea around for years but no studio would back him unless he included either a love story or a happy ending.

Good point, there should be a fourth pile:

4. Execs Say The Darnedest Things: Execs are interested…so long as some changes are made. Can be small, like changing the ethnicity or background of one character, to junking entire sections of the plot or simply rewriting the entire universe altogether. Generally leads to directors walking off, angry creators, and/or actor burn-out.

229 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:56:34pm

re: #223 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

FOREIGNER! GET HIM!
/

Never mind, he’s a Dirty White Boy!

230 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:56:38pm

re: #223 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

FOREIGNER! GET HIM!
/

Hola? What the heck is that? Sounds like a Hawaiian word or sumthin’.

//

231 AlexRogan  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:57:21pm

re: #229 WindUpBird

Never mind, he’s a Dirty White Boy!

Who’s a Jukebox Hero..

232 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:57:28pm

re: #133 Pass The Moonbaticide

Any Lizards able to translate that for us ?

/Genuinely Interested. Would li know.ke to

There is no God but God, and Mohammed is His prophet.

Core statement of faith in Islam.

233 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:57:45pm

re: #230 Gus 802

Hola? What the heck is that? Sounds like a Hawaiian word or sumthin’.

//

Worse..it’s Spanish..I’m an illegal emigrant

234 wrenchwench  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:57:50pm

re: #208 darthstar

This line from Spencer’s email is funny:

Big-Lie…isn’t that a Breitbart site?

Goebbels, Goebbels, Goebbels

Spencer can’t write his way out of a paper bag. I read one of his books (worse, I paid for it, penance continues…) and could hardly slog through it. I wish Boorstein hadn’t sat on some of the more damning information, unless it’s so she can write a more devastating follow up.

235 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:58:23pm

re: #225 Nimed

It would have been so easy to make a box office hit that at the same time would piss off al the fans of the re: #194 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)


Maybe that’s the problem, they should have committed to one world. Now that they have learned from this and other mistakes, the next D&D movie will surely be awesome.

/how the hell did they get Jeremy Irons?

The problem was they didn’t go with any setting, they just threw a bunch of gimmicks in a box, shook it up and called it a film.

And Jeremy got paid, so what does he care?

I can say with relative security there will never be a live action D&D movie featuring Drizzt or any other Drow.

236 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:58:40pm

re: #231 talon_262

Who’s a Jukebox Hero..

Sounds Urgent

237 Charles Johnson  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:59:10pm

re: #219 Killgore Trout

Yes. They are claiming that journalists who label them as anit-Muslim are endangering their lives (because it makes the violent Muslims angry)

Whiners.

238 rwdflynavy  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:59:38pm

re: #236 PT Barnum

Sounds Urgent

That was Cold as Ice.

239 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:59:39pm

re: #233 PT Barnum

Worse..it’s Spanish..I’m an illegal emigrant

You one of dem Farsi speakin’ Persian tattoo wearin’ Mexicans driving up here with dem BMWs to have your terror babies in this here country?

//

240 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:59:59pm

re: #237 Charles

Whiners.

Charles, have you no sympathy?! Can’t you see they are the victims here?!

///

241 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 1:59:59pm

re: #235 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Was pretty much the story with that execrable Dungeon Siege flick they made a few years back. Any movie with Burt Reynolds as the villain is just going to be awful, no matter what you do.

242 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:00:19pm

re: #236 PT Barnum

Sounds Urgent

But it feels like the first time

243 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:00:38pm

re: #239 Gus 802

You one of dem Farsi speakin’ Persian tattoo wearin’ Mexicans driving up here with dem BMWs to have your terror babies in this here country?

//

Yeah, we don’t like yer kind her. *spit*

//

244 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:01:02pm

Terror Babies sounds like a great name for a punk band.

245 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:01:02pm

re: #242 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But it feels like the first time

Oh yes, back when I wanted to know what love is

246 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:01:08pm

re: #241 PT Barnum

Was pretty much the story with that execrable Dungeon Siege flick they made a few years back. Any movie with Burt Reynolds as the villain is just going to be awful, no matter what you do.

Well, that had the added bonus of being directed by Uwe Boll, so it was doomed from the start.

247 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:01:25pm

re: #241 PT Barnum

Was pretty much the story with that execrable Dungeon Siege flick they made a few years back. Any movie with Burt Reynolds as the villain is just going to be awful, no matter what you do.

It was easy to tell that movie was going to be awful. Two words: Uwe Boll.

248 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:01:37pm

re: #246 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Well, that had the added bonus of being directed by Uwe Boll, so it was doomed from the start.

He should stick to basketball. /

249 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:01:53pm

And Sharron Angle thinks colors have mystical power, lol

This lady is so awesome, get her a reality show stat, put her in a house with Lemmy from Motorhead and Tom Araya from Slayer

250 AlexRogan  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:01:58pm

re: #219 Killgore Trout

Yes. They are claiming that journalists who label them as anit-Muslim are endangering their lives (because it makes the violent Muslims angry)

re: #237 Charles

Whiners.

Well, if the right-wing nutbags don’t want to attract unwanted attention from other nutbags, then maybe they shouldn’t spew nutbag shit…just my opinion.

That said, no one deserves to live under the threat of violence or bodily harm…NO ONE.

251 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:02:11pm

re: #247 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It was easy to tell that movie was going to be awful. Two words: Uwe Boll.

It could have been worse, it could have been Joel Schumacher

252 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:02:30pm

re: #251 PT Barnum

It could have been worse, it could have been Joel Schumacher

*shudders*

253 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:03:15pm

re: #219 Killgore Trout

Yes. They are claiming that journalists who label them as anit-Muslim are endangering their lives (because it makes the violent Muslims angry)

It’s the same reason that the klan wore hoods, not shame per se, but fear of being singled out for retribution.

254 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:03:22pm

re: #245 PT Barnum

Oh yes, back when I wanted to know what love is

is that when you were hot blooded?

255 darthstar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:03:27pm

re: #245 PT Barnum

Oh yes, back when I wanted to know what love is

That’s what I get for waiting for a girl like you.

256 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:03:29pm

re: #251 PT Barnum

It could have been worse, it could have been Joel Schumacher

Schumacher made one good movie!

257 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:03:41pm

re: #252 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

*shudders*

Wasn’t he the guy who directed Starship Troopers too? One of the worst adaptations of a classic novel ever.

258 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:04:16pm

re: #253 goddamnedfrank

It’s the same reason that the klan wore hoods, not shame per se, but fear of being singled out for retribution.

And now we just have the internet instead! Whee!

259 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:04:51pm

re: #257 PT Barnum

Wasn’t he the guy who directed Starship Troopers too? One of the worst adaptations of a classic novel ever.

Nah, that was the Total Recall/Robocop guy, paul verhoeven

260 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:05:11pm

re: #257 PT Barnum

Wasn’t he the guy who directed Starship Troopers too? One of the worst adaptations of a classic novel ever.

No, that was Paul Verhoeven, director of Showgirls, Robocop and Total Recall.

261 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:05:16pm

re: #257 PT Barnum

Wasn’t he the guy who directed Starship Troopers too? One of the worst adaptations of a classic novel ever.

Nah, that was Paul Verhoeven. You know, Robocop, Total Recall, Basic Instinct. It had more blood and gore than most slasher films, so it had to be one of his.

262 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:05:20pm

re: #255 darthstar

That’s what I get for waiting for a girl like you.

Stop playing Head Games

263 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:05:29pm

re: #259 WindUpBird

Nah, that was the Total Recall/Robocop guy, paul verhoeven

re: #260 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

No, that was Paul Verhoeven, director of Showgirls, Robocop and Total Recall.

GMTA

264 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:05:56pm

re: #261 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Nah, that was Paul Verhoeven. You know, Robocop, Total Recall, Basic Instinct. It had more blood and gore than most slasher films, so it had to be one of his.

Whoever directed it, it was just fucking awful

265 darthstar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:06:25pm

re: #262 PT Barnum

Stop playing Head Games

That was yesterday.

266 wrenchwench  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:06:37pm

A comment from Spencer’s sewer:

I don’t believe Mr Spencer is anti-Muslim, just anti-Islam, because he attacks Westerners who support Islam as much, if not more than, native born Muslims.

That passes for an explanation of why being a bigot is not being a bigot in the anti-muslim circles. It’s similar to “I’m not anti-Semitic, I’m anti-Zionist,” except it’s more like “I’m not anti-Jew, I’m anti-Jewish.”

267 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:06:40pm

re: #256 WindUpBird

Schumacher made one good movie!

Refresh my memory, which one was that?

268 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:07:08pm

re: #264 PT Barnum

Whoever directed it, it was just fucking awful

I kept thinking it would be really good as a flashback, showing a grizzled and hardened Johnny Rico leading his squadron on a mission and then recalling how he got there..more Apocolypse now meets Space Above and Beyond

269 AlexRogan  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:07:11pm

re: #242 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But it feels like the first time

Do they wanna know what love is?

270 theheat  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:07:19pm

re: #249 WindUpBird

I’d like to see Ozzy Osbourne’s set designers appointed head of her media campaign. Price of Darkness meets Princess of Crazy.

Between the two of them, I think Ozzy is the better person. He might be a bit addled, but he isn’t preaching hate and psychosis. And Sharon Osbourne would throw down Sharron Angle in a cage match any day.

271 darthstar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:07:37pm

re: #269 talon_262

Do they wanna know what love is?

Either that song’s been used, or I’m getting Double Vision.

272 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:08:00pm

re: #269 talon_262

Do they wanna know what love is?

Say you will.

273 darthstar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:08:23pm

re: #272 PT Barnum

Say you will.

Too late

274 Charles Johnson  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:08:41pm

The new line going around the me-hating blogs is that I’m “jealous” of Pamela Geller.

Apparently, most of these people never emotionally graduated from the 8th grade.

275 Varek Raith  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:08:44pm

re: #8 PapaWhisky

re: #9 spikester

Someone shine a spotlight?

276 Political Atheist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:08:51pm

re: #201 DaddyG

The sad part is there must be thousands of classic, mystery, science fiction, fantasy, romance, youth, biography and other literature that could be used as the basis for some awesome movies.

There is a lot of original work just laying there, unable to get out of the “known quantity” requirement for financing. Some of this work is as good or better than what we have seen in the past.

277 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:09:31pm

re: #257 PT Barnum

Wasn’t he the guy who directed Starship Troopers too? One of the worst adaptations of a classic novel ever.

Best review of Starship Troopers I ever saw was in a wargame company’s house magazine. The review was by a former army officer and simply reviewed the movie on the basis of the military shown and in terms of organization, armament, and logistics. Scathing from top to bottom, and openly referred to the M.I. basic unit apparently being the “mob” given their lack of squad tactics and organization.

There was an old Sci-fi series called “Space, Above and Beyond” or something like that in the mid 1990s (IIRC). My willing suspension of disbelief for that series went out the window once it became clear that the main characters doubled as fighter pilots *and* ground-pounders (basic infantry.)

278 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:09:31pm

re: #244 DaddyG

Terror Babies sounds like a great name for a punk band.

Image: LittlePunkBaby_1208450966.jpg

279 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:09:40pm

re: #264 PT Barnum

Whoever directed it, it was just fucking awful

Somehow, powered armor troops, inserted via torpedos launch from orbit, with one man armed with enough fire power to effectively control a 2 mile radius around him and a single platoon able to engage along a 50 mile front became a bunch of kids in BMX armor and oversized bulky rifles running in a gagglefuck formation lacking any reasonable form of armor, air or artilley support.

280 darthstar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:09:55pm

re: #274 Charles

The new line going around the me-hating blogs is that I’m “jealous” of Pamela Geller.

Apparently, most of these people never emotionally graduated from the 8th grade.

Don’t be jealous…just get these.

281 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:09:57pm

re: #267 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Refresh my memory, which one was that?

Lost Boys

YEAH! Forgot about Lost Boys, didncha? :D

282 What, me worry?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:10:59pm

re: #274 Charles

The new line going around the me-hating blogs is that I’m “jealous” of Pamela Geller.

Apparently, most of these people never emotionally graduated from the 8th grade.

What in God’s name would you have to be jealous of HER for? She’s got 5 people that visit her site?

283 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:11:02pm

re: #274 Charles

The new line going around the me-hating blogs is that I’m “jealous” of Pamela Geller.

Apparently, most of these people never emotionally graduated from the 8th grade.


Who knew we all yearned, YEARNED to have the rewarding life of an escaped mental patient

284 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:11:14pm

re: #235 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The problem was they didn’t go with any setting, they just threw a bunch of gimmicks in a box, shook it up and called it a film.

And Jeremy got paid, so what does he care?

I can say with relative security there will never be a live action D&D movie featuring Drizzt or any other Drow.

I never read Forgotten Realms (a lot of Dragonlance, though :p ). Why do think so? A drow is a dark elf, right? On it face, a short guy with some practice with swords should be able to pull it off. Make-up doesn’t seem especially difficulty either — pointy ears, body paint, maybe contact lenses… No?

285 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:11:14pm

re: #280 darthstar

Don’t be jealous…just get these.

Pass the brain bleach!

286 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:11:21pm

re: #279 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Somehow, powered armor troops, inserted via torpedos launch from orbit, with one man armed with enough fire power to effectively control a 2 mile radius around him and a single platoon able to engage along a 50 mile front became a bunch of kids in BMX armor and oversized bulky rifles running in a gagglefuck formation lacking any reasonable form of armor, air or artilley support.


So they were French??

287 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:11:41pm

re: #281 WindUpBird

Lost Boys

YEAH! Forgot about Lost Boys, didncha? :D

And yet somehow today, the Twilight series is considered as a great vampire movie by the masses.

288 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:11:46pm

re: #282 marjoriemoon

What in God’s name would you have to be jealous of HER for? She’s got 5 people that visit her site?

She did get on Alex Jones’ radio show, holy shit stop the presses, she’s a household name, move over Lady gaga

289 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:11:49pm

re: #280 darthstar

Don’t be jealous…just get these.

Holy moly. That’s scary looking.

290 Varek Raith  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:11:56pm

re: #285 DaddyG

Pass the brain bleach!

Image: cannot_be_unseen.jpg

291 researchok  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:12:04pm

re: #283 WindUpBird

Who knew we all yearned, YEARNED to have the rewarding life of an escaped mental patient

More than some truth to that.

292 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:12:15pm

re: #287 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And yet somehow today, the Twilight series is considered as a great vampire movie by the masses.

*cries*

293 Varek Raith  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:12:17pm

re: #287 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And yet somehow today, the Twilight series is considered as a great vampire movie by the masses.

BLOOD RAGE!!!111!!

294 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:12:28pm

re: #279 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Somehow, powered armor troops, inserted via torpedos launch from orbit, with one man armed with enough fire power to effectively control a 2 mile radius around him and a single platoon able to engage along a 50 mile front became a bunch of kids in BMX armor and oversized bulky rifles running in a gagglefuck formation lacking any reasonable form of armor, air or artilley support.

I don’t think watching one guy dressed up like Iron man would have been nearly as exciting, or maybe it would have been.

295 AlexRogan  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:13:30pm

re: #282 marjoriemoon

What in God’s name would you have to be jealous of HER for? She’s got 5 people that visit her site?

And they’re are all perpetually in an ideological circle-jerk…

296 What, me worry?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:13:50pm

re: #288 WindUpBird

She did get on Alex Jones’ radio show, holy shit stop the presses, she’s a household name, move over Lady gaga

She’s been in front of the camera a few times, but I don’t think most people know her. Didn’t Joy Behar have her on and they reamed her a new one?

All I have to say is…

WHATEVA

297 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:14:00pm

re: #287 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And yet somehow today, the Twilight series is considered as a great vampire movie by the masses.


With four daughters aged 10-19 in the house I am fed a steady diet of that drivel, along with all of the “kiddie soaps”.

I like to sit there and tell them what’s going to happen next with which character, which is not hard given the transparent cliches that serve as plots.

This really, really pisses them off while at the same time amusing them.

298 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:14:42pm

re: #294 PT Barnum

I don’t think watching one guy dressed up like Iron man would have been nearly as exciting, or maybe it would have been.

One thing with the novel _Starship Troopers_ is that the actual number of combat scenes/chapters in it are fairly few. The intro, training (flashback), and then I think actual details on two more drops.

299 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:14:53pm

re: #296 marjoriemoon

She’s been in front of the camera a few times, but I don’t think most people know her. Didn’t Joy Behar have her on and they reamed her a new one?

All I have to say is…

WHATEVA

ahah I would have loved to see that, being kicked in the store by Joy Behar!

300 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:15:15pm

re: #284 Nimed

I never read Forgotten Realms (a lot of Dragonlance, though :p ). Why do think so? A drow is a dark elf, right? On it face, a short guy with some practice with swords should be able to pull it off. Make-up doesn’t seem especially difficulty either — pointy ears, body paint, maybe contact lenses… No?

Dark Elf; Elven (slim anglo features) with jet black skin. No actor or studio wants to deal with the racial can of worms that would come up over the casting.

301 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:15:36pm

re: #297 DaddyG

With four daughters aged 10-19 in the house I am fed a steady diet of that drivel, along with all of the “kiddie soaps”.

I like to sit there and tell them what’s going to happen next with which character, which is not hard given the transparent cliches that serve as plots.

This really, really pisses them off while at the same time amusing them.

My drivel was honestly probably worse as a kid, I mean Knight Rider and The A-Team weren’t exactly Arrested Development :D

302 theheat  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:15:36pm

re: #296 marjoriemoon

Isn’t it scary the ladies of The View might have a better grasp of reality than some of its guests? Who’da thunk it.

303 What, me worry?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:16:29pm

re: #299 WindUpBird

ahah I would have loved to see that, being kicked in the store by Joy Behar!

It was Joy and another woman. All I remember is Pammy dressed up in her black leather. But they were very insulted about what Pam said. Like, you know, normal people are.

304 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:16:38pm

re: #301 WindUpBird

My drivel was honestly probably worse as a kid, I mean Knight Rider and The A-Team weren’t exactly Arrested Development :D

I pity the fool!

Did you catch the David Hasselhoff roast on Comedy Central? There was some funny stuff.

305 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:16:45pm

re: #298 oaktree

One thing with the novel _Starship Troopers_ is that the actual number of combat scenes/chapters in it are fairly few. The intro, training (flashback), and then I think actual details on two more drops.

True..I think there is enough emotional depth there that it could have been a really good movie, though not accepted by the same audience.

306 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:16:46pm

re: #297 DaddyG

With four daughters aged 10-19 in the house I am fed a steady diet of that drivel, along with all of the “kiddie soaps”.

I like to sit there and tell them what’s going to happen next with which character, which is not hard given the transparent cliches that serve as plots.

This really, really pisses them off while at the same time amusing them.

I do that to friends of mine with more complex movies/shows. And when I get it right (which is about 3/4 of the time) it pisses them off.

When you read a lot and watch classic films you’ve seen a lot of the plot twists and standards expected of the genre. So you just have to watch for the clues that seem to be required in the script.

307 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:17:47pm

re: #303 marjoriemoon

It was Joy and another woman. All I remember is Pammy dressed up in her black leather. But they were very insulted about what Pam said. Like, you know, normal people are.

ahahaha that faker Sturgis look she has going? oh GOD

308 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:18:04pm

BTW for any MMO gamers, we’re working on putting together a lizard guild on something. Email me from my page if interested.

309 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:18:09pm

re: #306 oaktree
You don’t lay a gun on the dresser unless its going to be used by the third act.

310 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:18:13pm

re: #304 DaddyG

I pity the fool!

Did you catch the David Hasselhoff roast on Comedy Central? There was some funny stuff.

I heard about it, haven’t seen it. PLEASE tell me K.I.T.T. roasted him :D

311 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:18:27pm

re: #251 PT Barnum

It could have been worse, it could have been Joel Schumacher

Mmm, hard to say — Uwe Boll may be slightly worse. But a studio rep saying “We’re deciding between Joel Schumacher and Uwe Boll” must be every screenwriter’s nightmare.

312 What, me worry?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:19:10pm

re: #308 PT Barnum

BTW for any MMO gamers, we’re working on putting together a lizard guild on something. Email me from my page if interested.

Oooo I sent you a note earlier today. Did you get it?

313 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:19:21pm

re: #311 Nimed

Mmm, hard to say — Uwe Boll may be slightly worse. But a studio rep saying “We’re deciding between Joel Schumacher and Uwe Boll” must be every screenwriter’s nightmare.

That’s sort of the difference between shit and shit that’s been set on fire, at least Joel Schumacher can make a competent terrible movie :D

314 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:19:38pm

re: #312 marjoriemoon

Oooo I sent you a note earlier today. Did you get it?

Yep…I replied too

315 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:20:36pm

re: #305 PT Barnum

True..I think there is enough emotional depth there that it could have been a really good movie, though not accepted by the same audience.

It’s a very good coming of age story set against an interstellar war. With a big dollop of Heinlein’s “how about this!” political stuff mixed in.

He wrote very readable stories. The prose flows, the action keeps up, and the side commentary is not dominating (YMMV at what point the Brain Eater got him). Compare that to some of the info-dump happy military sci-fi that came after it and you want to cry. Though there is still interesting stuff out there.

316 What, me worry?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:20:40pm

re: #314 PT Barnum

Yep…I replied too

Sweeet

317 theheat  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:20:42pm

Never heard that one “between shit and shit that’s been set on fire” before. I think I like it.

318 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:21:07pm

re: #266 wrenchwench

LOL, I’m not a racist, I just hate inner city community organizers because they empower the blacks.

319 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:21:12pm

re: #310 WindUpBird

I heard about it, haven’t seen it. PLEASE tell me K.I.T.T. roasted him :D


Not Kitt but there were some fantastic lines. Most of which cannot be repeated in mixed company.

320 AlexRogan  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:21:32pm

re: #311 Nimed

Mmm, hard to say — Uwe Boll may be slightly worse. But a studio rep saying “We’re deciding between Joel Schumacher and Uwe Boll” must be every screenwriter’s nightmare.

Uwe Boll can’t write or direct for shit…the man has no business being in show business.

321 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:21:59pm

re: #315 oaktree

It’s a very good coming of age story set against an interstellar war. With a big dollop of Heinlein’s “how about this!” political stuff mixed in.

He wrote very readable stories. The prose flows, the action keeps up, and the side commentary is not dominating (YMMV at what point the Brain Eater got him). Compare that to some of the info-dump happy military sci-fi that came after it and you want to cry. Though there is still interesting stuff out there.

I used to go back and read his entire oevre of juveniles once a year.

322 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:22:04pm

re: #315 oaktree

It’s a very good coming of age story set against an interstellar war. With a big dollop of Heinlein’s “how about this!” political stuff mixed in.

He wrote very readable stories. The prose flows, the action keeps up, and the side commentary is not dominating (YMMV at what point the Brain Eater got him). Compare that to some of the info-dump happy military sci-fi that came after it and you want to cry. Though there is still interesting stuff out there.

The Great Crusade series has been very enjoyable for the most part for military sci-fi.

323 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:22:36pm

re: #319 DaddyG

Most of which cannot be repeated in mixed company.


I didn’t hear anything racist!!/

324 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:23:28pm

I’m really enjoying the Iain M Banks and Alistair Reynolds stuff. I’ve also gone back and re-read Poul Anderson and Heinlein lately. Its mind candy for me when work is done and I ride the bus home.

325 Jack Burton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:24:28pm

re: #320 talon_262

Uwe Boll can’t write or direct for shit…the man has no business being in show business.

And then Tommy Wiseau came around… suddenly Uwe Boll looks like John Huston in comparison.

326 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:26:02pm

re: #300 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Dark Elf; Elven (slim anglo features) with jet black skin. No actor or studio wants to deal with the racial can of worms that would come up over the casting.

:) I see. Well, it would be hard to cast 20 African-Americans with her facial lines.

327 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:27:09pm

Make em all CGI..problem solved.

328 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:27:21pm

re: #326 Nimed

They could also just ‘black them up’ ;)

329 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:27:37pm

re: #276 Rightwingconspirator

There is a lot of original work just laying there, unable to get out of the “known quantity” requirement for financing. Some of this work is as good or better than what we have seen in the past.

One studio could just continue making movies based on Philip K. Dick novels. I’d love to see ‘The Man in the High Castle’ made into a movie. The only really good movie based on a Dick novel (well short story) was Blade Runner, the others have fallen flat with me.

And I’d shit a brick if someone made a movie out of Gibson’s ‘Mona Lisa Overdrive’ or Pynchon’s ‘V’.

330 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:28:03pm

re: #320 talon_262

Uwe Boll can’t write or direct for shit…the man has no business being in show business.

Upding, and preaching to the choir dude. :D

331 Jack Burton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:28:29pm

re: #329 Jeff In Ohio

One studio could just continue making movies based on Philip K. Dick novels. I’d love to see ‘The Man in the High Castle’ made into a movie. The only really good movie based on a Dick novel (well short story) was Blade Runner, the others have fallen flat with me.

And I’d shit a brick if someone made a movie out of Gibson’s ‘Mona Lisa Overdrive’ or Pynchon’s ‘V’.

Last time they made a Gibson movie it was borderline atrocious.

332 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:28:41pm

re: #329 Jeff In Ohio

One studio could just continue making movies based on Philip K. Dick novels. I’d love to see ‘The Man in the High Castle’ made into a movie. The only really good movie based on a Dick novel (well short story) was Blade Runner, the others have fallen flat with me.

And I’d shit a brick if someone made a movie out of Gibson’s ‘Mona Lisa Overdrive’ or Pynchon’s ‘V’.

How about a movie of the Jack Vance Dying Earth stories

333 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:28:55pm

re: #328 windsagio

They could also just ‘black them up’ ;)

*SLAP

334 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:28:59pm

re: #287 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

of tweeners and post tweeners.

335 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:29:07pm

re: #331 ArchangelMichael

Last time they made a Gibson movie it was borderline atrocious.

was that Johnny Mnemonic..and yes it was..

336 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:29:46pm

re: #324 DaddyG

I’m really enjoying the Iain M Banks and Alistair Reynolds stuff. I’ve also gone back and re-read Poul Anderson and Heinlein lately. Its mind candy for me when work is done and I ride the bus home.

I’m a big fan of Banks and Bujold personally. Through a friend of mine I’ve been reading older stuff by Drake. Not reading much sci-fi recently in favor of filling out a few areas of military history. WW2 Pacifc Theatre for the most part, but also been reading Balkowski’s books on D-Day and the period immediately afterwards. (Both of these aligning with war gaming. The former with a game called “Silent War” and the latter with a solitaire “D:DAY Omaha Beach” game*.)

* - Which is simply nasty in certain facets. Balkowski writes about one of the assault companies essentially getting annihilated in front of one of the German defense positions and if you can easily watch the game generate the same result. (The history on this company in the invasion is very sketchy since practically no one survived the assault to make a report about what really happened to them.)

337 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:30:44pm

re: #329 Jeff In Ohio

I want a movie at least as good as LOTR based on “The Warrior’s Apprentice”.

338 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:30:45pm

I suspect one of the difficulties with getting a really good novel into script form is capturing the internal dialogue of the characters in an intelligent way without resorting to a “wonder years” narration gimmick.

Orson Scott Card’s Ender series, Heinleins Stranger in a Strange Land, Asimovs Foundation series… all of them rely pretty heavily on exploring the thoughts and feelings of their characters.

It may be why short stories are often better vehicles for Sci Fi than novels.

339 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:31:12pm

re: #301 WindUpBird

My drivel was honestly probably worse as a kid, I mean Knight Rider and The A-Team weren’t exactly Arrested Development :D

Hey man, being cable less and WB is running Knight Rider and the A-Team back to back every night. My kids think they are a hoot. And no one ever gets killer or laid.

340 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:32:04pm

re: #338 DaddyG

or if you’re doing novels, stick with pure pulp. The Skylark of Space would make a freakin’ great film, imo.

341 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:32:36pm

re: #336 oaktree
You just gave me two more authors to look up. I really enjoyed the Jeff Shaara (Gods and Generals) treatment of WWII.

342 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:32:44pm

re: #338 DaddyG

I suspect one of the difficulties with getting a really good novel into script form is capturing the internal dialogue of the characters in an intelligent way without resorting to a “wonder years” narration gimmick.

Orson Scott Card’s Ender series, Heinleins Stranger in a Strange Land, Asimovs Foundation series… all of them rely pretty heavily on exploring the thoughts and feelings of their characters.

It may be why short stories are often better vehicles for Sci Fi than novels.

Heck, _The Stars My Destination_ would make a good mini-series. Though I expect that an executive would screw with it heavily before approving it.

343 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:32:50pm

re: #328 windsagio

They could also just ‘black them up’ ;)

lol. I think there would be less outrage to just submit an all black cast to cheekbone surgery.

Mmm… I’m fairly certain there exists such a thing as “cheekbone surgery”.

344 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:32:53pm

re: #340 windsagio

or if you’re doing novels, stick with pure pulp. The Skylark of Space would make a freakin’ great film, imo.

4 words

John Carter of Mars

345 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:33:28pm

re: #344 PT Barnum

4 words

John Carter of Mars

Being worked on now.

346 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:33:34pm

re: #342 oaktree

Heck, _The Stars My Destination_ would make a good mini-series. Though I expect that an executive would screw with it heavily before approving it.

Oh yeah…EXCELLENT IDEA! Who would you pick to play Gully Foyle?

347 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:33:37pm

re: #344 PT Barnum

4 words

John Carter of Mars

OH GOD YES!

It freaking makes itself, and the Burroughs estate sells cheap.

348 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:33:47pm

re: #345 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Being worked on now.

Be Still My Heart

349 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:34:17pm

re: #347 windsagio

OH GOD YES!

It freaking makes itself, and the Burroughs estate sells cheap.

Would also love to see an anthology film based on the short stories of Fredric Brown….

350 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:34:17pm

re: #343 Nimed

The Drow are awful anywyas, especially after Salvatore got his hands on them.

351 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:34:35pm

re: #348 PT Barnum

Be Still My Heart

Now its that terrible combination of Hope and Fear.

353 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:35:22pm

Anybody seen KickAss? I dvrd it the other night but haven’t watched it yet.

354 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:35:23pm

re: #346 PT Barnum

Oh yeah…EXCELLENT IDEA! Who would you pick to play Gully Foyle?


I here Mel Gibsons not busy!!
Just sayin!!/

355 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:35:25pm

re: #331 ArchangelMichael

WHich one? I don’t get to the movies much.

re: #332 PT Barnum

Um, yeah!

356 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:35:37pm

re: #329 Jeff In Ohio

One studio could just continue making movies based on Philip K. Dick novels. I’d love to see ‘The Man in the High Castle’ made into a movie. The only really good movie based on a Dick novel (well short story) was Blade Runner, the others have fallen flat with me.

And I’d shit a brick if someone made a movie out of Gibson’s ‘Mona Lisa Overdrive’ or Pynchon’s ‘V’.

IIRC, Gibson basically washed his hands of Hollywood after Johnny Mnemonic and absolutely refuses to allow any director near his work unless they can convince him that they will do them justice.

So far, no director has met his approval, or so I understand.

357 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:35:39pm

John Carter of Mars

“Civil War vet John Carter is transplanted to Mars, where he discovers a lush, wildly diverse planet whose main inhabitants are 12-foot tall green barbarians. Finding himself a prisoner of these creatures, he escapes, only to encounter Dejah Thoris, Princess of Helium, who is in desperate need of a savior. “

Willem Dafoe … Tars Tarkas

Taylor Kitsch … John Carter

358 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:36:01pm

re: #353 PT Barnum

On a slight aside, funny thing about that film. the movie was OK’d before the comic ever even existed.

359 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:36:34pm

re: #357 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yay! But…

Goddamn Disney.

360 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:36:44pm

re: #350 windsagio

The Drow are awful anywyas, especially after Salvatore got his hands on them.

Now Illithids on the other hand, there is some serious movie potential.

361 garhighway  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:36:56pm

re: #274 Charles

The new line going around the me-hating blogs is that I’m “jealous” of Pamela Geller.

Apparently, most of these people never emotionally graduated from the 8th grade.

At least admit that you are jealous of her hair.

/

362 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:37:15pm

re: #356 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Ah, did not know that.

363 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:37:21pm

re: #187 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

More disturbingly, there’s a parasitic worm called the Lancet Fluke that does something very similar.

In order to complete their reproductive cycle, Lancet Flukes have to somehow end up in the digestive system of a cow. To do this, they rely on snails and also commandeer the nervous systems of ants.


* Adult worms in the liver of the definitive host produce eggs that are washed out in the bile, mixed with the stool, and passed from the body.

* Land snails feed on decaying animal droppings and ingest the eggs, whereupon the eggs hatch, releasing miracidia.


* Miracidia migrate through the gut wall into the snail’s digestive gland, where they multiply asexually. Cercariae are produced. The snail is the first intermediate host for the fluke.

* Cercariae exiting the snail’s tissues are encased in a coating of slime, which is left behind on the vegetation that the snail travels over. Transforming to metacercariaie, the parasites can be very numerous (hundreds in one slime ball) and are protected from drying out by the slime encasing them.

* Foraging ants collect the slime balls and carry them back to the nest, where the slime balls are eaten. Metacercariae encyst in the ant’s body cavity and become infective to the definitive host. One metacercaria travels to the ant’s nervous tissue and encysts there, an event which profoundly influences the ant’s behavior from then on - scientists are still unsure of how this works.

* Infected ants crawl to the tops of blades of grass in the cool evenings and early mornings and cling there. This is the time when herbivores are grazing—the ant’s strange behavior makes the insect much more likely to be eaten by a grazing animal! In the heat of the day, when the dew dries up and animals rest in the shade, the ant that has not been eaten resumes its normal activities, only to ascend again when things cool down.

* Metacercariae in ants that have been eaten migrate up the bile duct into the liver and mature to adult flukes in under two months. At about three months after infection, the worms begin producing eggs.

364 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:37:45pm

re: #357 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

John Carter of Mars

“Civil War vet John Carter is transplanted to Mars, where he discovers a lush, wildly diverse planet whose main inhabitants are 12-foot tall green barbarians. Finding himself a prisoner of these creatures, he escapes, only to encounter Dejah Thoris, Princess of Helium, who is in desperate need of a savior. “

Willem Dafoe … Tars Tarkas

Taylor Kitsch … John Carter

And Lynn Collins as Dejah Thoris…Bet they lose all the topless women though

365 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:38:14pm

re: #350 windsagio

The Drow are awful anywyas, especially after Salvatore got his hands on them.

:) I’ll take your word for it. I’ve read 500 parodies of Drizzt without ever reading the damn books. I must say I can’t imagine how any character can possibly be more teenage-cool than Dragonlance’s Raistlin.

366 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:38:16pm

re: #338 DaddyG

I suspect one of the difficulties with getting a really good novel into script form is capturing the internal dialogue of the characters in an intelligent way without resorting to a “wonder years” narration gimmick.

Orson Scott Card’s Ender series, Heinleins Stranger in a Strange Land, Asimovs Foundation series… all of them rely pretty heavily on exploring the thoughts and feelings of their characters.

It may be why short stories are often better vehicles for Sci Fi than novels.

A lot of it also has to do with the writers and/or their families either asking small fortunes for the rights, refusing to sell the rights due to fear that the material will be mistreated, or the rights getting passed around from studio to studio due to the movies inevitably ending up in Development Hell.

367 darthstar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:38:29pm

Heh…You have to admit, the camera does like this guy.

368 Slap  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:38:34pm

re: #323 reloadingisnotahobby

One line I remember can be repeated. I think it was Gilbert Gottfried who turned to Hasselhoff and said, “So, how’s that chain of “all-you-can-eat-OFF-THE-FLOOR” restaurants working out for you?”

369 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:39:17pm

re: #363 negativ

You can believe in creation or evolution. Either way creatures like this are WTF!!! in a really intersting way.

370 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:39:17pm

re: #365 Nimed

:) I’ll take your word for it. I’ve read 500 parodies of Drizzt without ever reading the damn books. I must say I can’t imagine how any character can possibly be more teenage-cool than Dragonlance’s Raistlin.

Secretly I haven’t read any of his crap either. I’m just tired of dealing with the backlash.

“OH LOOK ITS ANOTHER GOOD REBEL AGAINST HIS INHERENTLY EVIL RACE THAT USES 2 SWORDS AND IS ALL TRAGIC!”

371 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:39:32pm

re: #367 darthstar

Heh…You have to admit, the camera does like this guy.

Is it just me, or does he look like he’s sliding down the stairs?

372 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:40:11pm

re: #364 PT Barnum

Hmm, one of the big Pixar guys is the director. Animated?

John Carter done in the style of Heavy Metal would be, well, Metal.

No way that’s happening tho’.

373 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:40:29pm

re: #346 PT Barnum

Oh yeah…EXCELLENT IDEA! Who would you pick to play Gully Foyle?

Good question…

Needs good range for an anti-hero character like him.

A little bit younger I’d like to see what Kevin Spacey or Gabriel Byrne could do with it. And I would also be curious what sort of take the Cohens could do with the material.

If I could get any actor of any time to do it I’d favor James Cagney or Gregory Peck. Sort that can do a sensitive turn and then suddenly go semi-psycho on you, and make it believable.

374 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:40:29pm

re: #371 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Is it just me, or does he look like he’s sliding down the stairs?

That was Gerald Ford’s schtick

375 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:40:58pm

re: #368 Slap

One line I remember can be repeated. I think it was Gilbert Gottfried who turned to Hasselhoff and said, “So, how’s that chain of “all-you-can-eat-OFF-THE-FLOOR” restaurants working out for you?”

What was the line about Hoffs greatest acting moment being Pamala Andersons T-Ts? I almost fell out of my bed on that one.

376 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:41:04pm

re: #373 oaktree

Good question…

Needs good range for an anti-hero character like him.

A little bit younger I’d like to see what Kevin Spacey or Gabriel Byrne could do with it. And I would also be curious what sort of take the Cohens could do with the material.

If I could get any actor of any time to do it I’d favor James Cagney or Gregory Peck. Sort that can do a sensitive turn and then suddenly go semi-psycho on you, and make it believable.

Bruce Dern

377 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:41:04pm

re: #374 PT Barnum

That was Gerald Ford’s schtick

*rimshot!*

378 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:42:01pm

re: #376 PT Barnum

Bruce Dern

James Coburn,
Lee Marvin

379 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:42:22pm

re: #378 PT Barnum

James Coburn,
Lee Marvin

Also good choices.

380 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:42:32pm

re: #370 windsagio

Secretly I haven’t read any of his crap either. I’m just tired of dealing with the backlash.

“OH LOOK ITS ANOTHER GOOD REBEL AGAINST HIS INHERENTLY EVIL RACE THAT USES 2 SWORDS AND IS ALL TRAGIC!”

lol exactly! Contrast that with “Neutral (but sort of evil) extremely gifted blood coughing virgin Red Mage with yellow hourglass eyes and his own agenda”. There’s just no comparison.

381 Slap  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:42:54pm

re: #375 DaddyG

The guy that voices Stewie — said that the thing we remember most about Hasselhoff from Baywatch was Pamela Anderson’s t-ts.

Somebody also said that the two of them have something in common — they’re both famous for stuffing their mouths full of meat in videos….

382 PT Barnum  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:43:03pm

re: #379 oaktree

Also good choices.

Lee Marvin strikes me as someone who could have played a semi literate prone to fits of rage..

383 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:43:10pm

re: #371 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Is it just me, or does he look like he’s sliding down the stairs?

That’s because he’s riding down on the sekrit Mooslim Magic Carpet of Persia!!11ty

//

384 deranged cat  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:43:31pm

re: #320 talon_262

Uwe Boll can’t write or direct for shit…the man has no business being in show business.

Oh. I thought you guys were talking about Usain Bolt.. i was like “when the heck did he start directing..?”

385 DaddyG  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:44:01pm

re: #381 Slap

That was it. Thanks!

(I also liked the shot at Lisa Lampanelli - “like Clorox. Safe for whites but really made for colors.”

386 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:44:13pm

re: #381 Slap

The guy that voices Stewie — said that the thing we remember most about Hasselhoff from Baywatch was Pamela Anderson’s t-ts.

Somebody also said that the two of them have something in common — they’re both famous for stuffing their mouths full of meat in videos…

The one thing they have in common is that they’ve both made embarrassing videos with meat stuffed in their mouths.

387 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:45:30pm

OOOH! Alien Legion has been optioned and they’re working on it for 2013.

Now that will be the straight up shit.

Jugger Grimrod was the pimpest mofo around.

Image: alien20legion201.jpg

388 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:46:50pm

ok poofies, latah!

389 Slap  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:46:59pm

re: #386 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Zackly. Thanks for the accuracy — the brain’s a bit fuzzy.

390 Targetpractice  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 2:54:40pm

Think if there’s one kinda movie I’d like to see Hollywood make and take seriously, it would be an alternate history movie. And not in the standard Hollywood “We changed time, we gotta change it back!” sort of way, where at the end everything’s “back to normal” or “better than normal.” Adapting “The Man in the High Castle” or something in a similar vein would be awesome to see, provided the director could take it seriously.

391 blueraven  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 3:14:17pm

re: #9 spikester

shit-storm

where?

Gathering with lightning speed in the heart, mind, and soul of bigots.

392 blueraven  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 3:18:27pm

re: #48 Conservative Moonbat

Well, sorry for ruining everyone’s plans, but I got to it FIRST.

The early bird gets the karma. Well done!

393 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:05:35pm

re: #360 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Now Illithids on the other hand, there is some serious movie potential.

Cthulu!

394 Grimalkin  Fri, Aug 20, 2010 7:45:52pm

Try Hello Kitty vs Cthulhu
hello-cthulhu.com

395 Øyvind Strømmen  Sun, Aug 22, 2010 4:45:15am

re: #282 marjoriemoon

What in God’s name would you have to be jealous of HER for? She’s got 5 people that visit her site?

Charles has only 4. The rest of us are only Charles posting under different names. Didn’t you know?

//

396 spikester  Mon, Aug 23, 2010 12:32:11pm

test

&#937 man

397 spikester  Mon, Aug 23, 2010 12:35:24pm

charles
the preview shows greek omega the post shows….
do i get a bug of the week wine shot?


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