Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer Stand With The English Defense League

WingnutsAugust 2010 • Views: 16,797

Hate monger and anti-mosque queen bee Pamela Geller often promotes an extreme right wing British group called the English Defense League (an offshoot of the neo-Nazi British National Party), praising them as “peaceful patriots” trying to peacefully defend their peaceful culture from the invasion of the Moslem horde.

When the EDL recently held a rally in London to protest Britain’s exclusion of Dutch anti-Muslim demagogue Geert Wilders, for example, Geller gushed:

How I wish I could be there to stand with the English Defense League.

Geller’s crony, anti-Muslim writer Robert Spencer, also gushes over the EDL regularly:

The EDL deserves the support of all free people.

At Harry’s Place, Edmund Standing shows us some of the people with whom Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer stand:

Youtube Video

(Hat tip: Gus 802.)

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99 comments

Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Aug 24, 2010 4:45:45pm

Please, oh please, put your arm back down. The smell is creeping right through the intertubes and into this room.

And it reeks.

Randall Gross Tue, Aug 24, 2010 4:46:13pm

Yep, those look like Pammy & Robert's friends to me.

Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Aug 24, 2010 4:47:13pm

Wait...wait...dude with a swastika tattoo, doing the stolen "Heil" sign, in front of a flag that says "England?"

Has anyone informed him that the nazis attacked England and everything it stood for?

jamesfirecat Tue, Aug 24, 2010 4:47:50pm

///This picture makes me long for my grand parent's day when at least those who claimed to be nazi supermen actually bothered to be at least good looking...

Surabaya Stew Tue, Aug 24, 2010 4:48:11pm

re: #3 EmmmieG

Wait...wait...dude with a swastika tattoo, doing the stolen "Heil" sign, in front of a flag that says "England?"

Has anyone informed him that the nazis attacked England and everything it stood for?

Nuance is sorely lacking with these fools.

thatthatisis Tue, Aug 24, 2010 4:49:28pm

The Nazi salute is such a nice touch.. . . .

I don't normally support censorship, but for gawd's sake someone please photoshop a shirt on that man. There are limits.

SpaceJesus Tue, Aug 24, 2010 4:51:15pm

decided to read the wikipedia article on this geller. found the following:

"She has been a strong defender of former Serbian dictator Slobodan Milosevic,"

is this fucking true?

Randall Gross Tue, Aug 24, 2010 4:53:24pm

Pammy and Robert's other friends in Belgium who really started the no mosque movement....
Warning: clicking on any of the pic links in this google search could take you to some ugly eurofascist sites.

[Link: www.google.com...]

brookly red Tue, Aug 24, 2010 4:53:38pm

re: #6 thatthatisis

The Nazi salute is such a nice touch.. . . .

I don't normally support censorship, but for gawd's sake someone please photoshop a shirt on that man. There are limits.

touche.

seldom is a thread won in less than 10 comments.

Winny Spencer Tue, Aug 24, 2010 4:53:55pm

re: #7 SpaceJesus

Sure is. Srebrenica? Muslim propaganda, according to Pam.

Randall Gross Tue, Aug 24, 2010 4:54:43pm

re: #7 SpaceJesus

decided to read the wikipedia article on this geller. found the following:

"She has been a strong defender of former Serbian dictator Slobodan Milosevic,"

is this fucking true?

It's true, both atlas and JW have published Julia Gorin and Jatras articles, both prime Serbian agitprop artists.

Walter L. Newton Tue, Aug 24, 2010 4:55:33pm

Perfect time to haul out these old hoary missives between Robert Spencer and myself. Things never change, do they?

"Robert, can you answer one simple question for me. This would help a lot in deciding what is really going on here. Which European political parties do you UNCONDITIONALLY condemn because of their proven ties to racist nationalism?" (Walter L. Newton email to Robert Spencer sent on Friday, November 07, 2008 1:16 PM)

And his answer...

"Actually, I am fighting jihad, and have no interest in or intention to investigate these groups. Insofar as they are fighting jihad, I applaud them. Insofar as they are doing anything else, my endorsement is not implied." (Robert Spencer email answer to Walter L. Newton sent on Sat 11/8/2008 10:39 AM)

This support Spencer is giving to the EDL should come as no surprise to anyone who has been paying attention to Spencer for all these years.

HappyWarrior Tue, Aug 24, 2010 4:57:25pm

Gee if he wanted to tell the world he was a loser, he couldn't just gotten a L on his arm instead of that swastika.

SpaceJesus Tue, Aug 24, 2010 4:58:10pm

re: #10 Winny Spencer

Sure is. Srebrenica? Muslim propaganda, according to Pam.

this has to be untrue. i really don't believe it.

if true, she is defending the massacre of men, women and children at the hands of someone who ranks up there with pol pot, hitler, and whichever asshole was behind rawanda.

defending the EDL is small beans compared to this vile, vile shit.

Kreuzueber Halbmond Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:00:14pm

Pam Geller = the necklace says "Love" but the face screams hate. Go figure.

Image: md_horiz.jpg

darthstar Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:00:28pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

Gee if he wanted to tell the world he was a loser, he couldn't just gotten a L on his arm instead of that swastika.

A swastika is just a way of having four Ls in one big happy circle.

Charles Johnson Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:00:44pm

re: #14 SpaceJesus

this has to be untrue. i really don't believe it.

if true, she is defending the massacre of men, women and children at the hands of someone who ranks up there with pol pot, hitler, and whichever asshole was behind rawanda.

defending the EDL is small beans compared to this vile, vile shit.

Pamela Geller's Mash Note to a Genocidal Serbian War Criminal. Not Milsoevic, but Karadzic, who's just as evil. (She also defends Milosevic.)

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:01:11pm

re: #3 EmmmieG

Wait...wait...dude with a swastika tattoo, doing the stolen "Heil" sign, in front of a flag that says "England?"

Has anyone informed him that the nazis attacked England and everything it stood for?

Oswald Mosley's bastard grandchildren.

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:01:42pm

re: #7 SpaceJesus

decided to read the wikipedia article on this geller. found the following:

"She has been a strong defender of former Serbian dictator Slobodan Milosevic,"

is this fucking true?

Yes.

Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:01:49pm

re: #7 SpaceJesus

decided to read the wikipedia article on this geller. found the following:

"She has been a strong defender of former Serbian dictator Slobodan Milosevic,"

is this fucking true?

Yes. Spencer is too.

HappyWarrior Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:01:54pm

re: #16 darthstar

A swastika is just a way of having four Ls in one big happy circle.

I'm gonna have to use that. Thanks.

JamesWI Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:02:37pm

re: #14 SpaceJesus

this has to be untrue. i really don't believe it.

if true, she is defending the massacre of men, women and children at the hands of someone who ranks up there with pol pot, hitler, and whichever asshole was behind rawanda.

defending the EDL is small beans compared to this vile, vile shit.

It is true, and she does. If I recall correctly, Stalker Blog also defends Milosevic and downplays Srebenica as being necessary to fight jihad.

HappyWarrior Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:02:47pm

re: #14 SpaceJesus

this has to be untrue. i really don't believe it.

if true, she is defending the massacre of men, women and children at the hands of someone who ranks up there with pol pot, hitler, and whichever asshole was behind rawanda.

defending the EDL is small beans compared to this vile, vile shit.

Know for a fact that her and Spencer have defended Karadzic many a time.

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:05:06pm

re: #14 SpaceJesus

this has to be untrue. i really don't believe it.

if true, she is defending the massacre of men, women and children at the hands of someone who ranks up there with pol pot, hitler, and whichever asshole was behind rawanda.

defending the EDL is small beans compared to this vile, vile shit.

Yes.

History we saw unfold in our lives is being rewritten by people who truly, truly hate Muslims. Not Islamist terrorists, not al-Qaeda, not 'radicals'. They hate Muslims. Little girls, and old men, and pregnant women and babies with teething rings.

SpaceJesus Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:05:16pm

re: #17 Charles

holy fucking crap

darthstar Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:05:46pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

I'm gonna have to use that. Thanks.

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That would have been too much to tattoo.

SpaceJesus Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:07:03pm

re: #22 JamesWI

It is true, and she does. If I recall correctly, Stalker Blog also defends Milosevic and downplays Srebenica as being necessary to fight jihad.

oh i know they do, rodan even posted a video that was gloating about murdered muslim civilians in the balkans.

Charles Johnson Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:08:21pm

Fox News is still in full-on anti-mosque mode. Just checked it out and Laura Ingraham is ranting away.

Vicious Babushka Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:08:36pm

re: #1 EmmmieG

Please, oh please, put your arm back down. The smell is creeping right through the intertubes and into this room.

And it reeks.

And he needs a bro for his moobs.

HappyWarrior Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:08:43pm

It's my understanding that the Death of a Nation is the definitive book on the Balkan troubles. I only read part of it for a class I took but it was very interesting. Hard to pronounce all those names I must say.

Vicious Babushka Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:10:28pm

re: #3 EmmmieG

Wait...wait...dude with a swastika tattoo, doing the stolen "Heil" sign, in front of a flag that says "England?"

Has anyone informed him that the nazis attacked England and everything it stood for?

zombie Winston Churchill should kick his ass.

elbruce Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:10:35pm

They're still looking for Kyle:

Image: 1234905318735-copy.jpg

The Guardian has an interesting piece on her which mentions the Milosevic connection. Also this:

She has allied herself with racist extremists in South Africa in promoting a claim that the black population is carrying out a "genocide" of whites.

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:12:36pm

re: #32 elbruce

They're still looking for Kyle:

Image: 1234905318735-copy.jpg

The Guardian has an interesting piece on her which mentions the Milosevic connection. Also this:

People like Pam are fond of telling people like me that the Islamofascists won't spare us 'when they take over'.

I return the favor. Pam? The white supremacists you swan around with? They don't forget you're a Jew. Don't expect to be rewarded 'when they take over'.

Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:14:39pm

So...there was a way of thinking and a movement. It attacked your nation. Your nation stood up to the movement, bravely, heroically, and ultimately, won.

So you sympathize with the other guys? The ones who lost? Really, really lost? Became the bad guys in every other film made from then until now? The dudes who dropped bombs on your grandmother? Seriously?

I don't get it. If you want to feel brave, tattoo "RAF" on your bicep.

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:15:48pm

re: #34 EmmmieG

So...there was a way of thinking and a movement. It attacked your nation. Your nation stood up to the movement, bravely, heroically, and ultimately, won.

So you sympathize with the other guys? The ones who lost? Really, really lost? Became the bad guys in every other film made from then until now? The dudes who dropped bombs on your grandmother? Seriously?

I don't get it. If you want to feel brave, tattoo "RAF" on your bicep.

This, this, this.

elbruce Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:16:35pm

re: #34 EmmmieG

So you sympathize with the other guys? The ones who lost? Really, really lost? Became the bad guys in every other film made from then until now? The dudes who dropped bombs on your grandmother? Seriously?

I'm gonna go start up an Imperial Japan Club. BANZAI! ///

Randall Gross Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:16:52pm

re: #32 elbruce

She has allied herself with racist extremists in South Africa in promoting a claim that the black population is carrying out a "genocide" of whites.

This is also true, she defended the Neo Nazi leader recently murdered there in a few articles.

Decatur Deb Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:16:54pm

re: #7 SpaceJesus

decided to read the wikipedia article on this geller. found the following:

"She has been a strong defender of former Serbian dictator Slobodan Milosevic,"

is this fucking true?

Hate to be simplistic, but in the end there are only two sides--Human and Anti-human.

[Link: www.google.com...]

brookly red Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:17:50pm

re: #34 EmmmieG

So...there was a way of thinking and a movement. It attacked your nation. Your nation stood up to the movement, bravely, heroically, and ultimately, won.

wow

Nimed Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:18:14pm

"What about the New Black Panthers, Charles?"

SpaceJesus Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:21:59pm

re: #17 Charles

thanks a lot for this by the way. i was just elected president of my international student legal society, and am emailing this Julia Gorin now to see if she will come debate at my university with my organization sponsoring it all. wonder if she has the spine.

jamesfirecat Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:22:27pm

re: #28 Charles

Fox News is still in full-on anti-mosque mode. Just checked it out and Laura Ingraham is ranting away.

I can't wait to see their faces when somebody finally realizes that the people they're ranting against are to a certain degree the same ones who have the second largest share in their news corporation, someone besides Jon Stewart at least....

Randall Gross Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:23:55pm

re: #32 elbruce

Also note this picture of the meeting room for the youth group auxillaries of their friends Vlaams Belang, the sign in the upper left says "Solidarity With White South Africa"
Image: filip-de-man-at-voorpost.jpg

Notice in the upper right you can see them spreading anti muslim sentiment even back then.

Decatur Deb Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:24:02pm

re: #41 SpaceJesus

thanks a lot for this by the way. i was just elected president of my international student legal society, and am emailing this Julia Gorin now to see if she will come debate at my university with my organization sponsoring it all. wonder if she has the spine.

That's "Tranzi student legal society.." now.

Walter L. Newton Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:25:48pm

re: #42 jamesfirecat

I can't wait to see their faces when somebody finally realizes that the people they're ranting against are to a certain degree the same ones who have the second largest share in their news corporation, someone besides Jon Stewart at least...

James... the on air staff of Fox are aware of Alwaleed and his involvement with News Corp. You make this sound like it's some secret. We discuss this on LGF years ago.

Winny Spencer Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:27:51pm

re: #43 Thanos

Huh? A Bobby Sands poster in the middle? These guys really have an odd way of picking and choosing whom they pay homage to.

Shiplord Kirel Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:28:53pm

re: #6 thatthatisis

I don't normally support censorship, but for gawd's sake someone please photoshop a shirt on that man. There are limits.

Ironic isn't it?
Except for Goering, fat Nazis were pretty rare by the spring of 1945.
I mean, gruel rations were getting a bit thin with the allies bombing the shit out of the railroads; and the few calories the rank and file did get were constantly being burned off clearing rubble, digging mass graves, and fleeing from the Red Army.
This Aryan hero should compare himself to his predecessors and draw the obvious conclusion.

brookly red Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:31:58pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel

Ironic isn't it?
Except for Goering, fat Nazis were pretty rare by the spring of 1945.
I mean, gruel rations were getting a bit thin with the allies bombing the shit out of the railroads; and the few calories the rank and file did get were constantly being burned off clearing rubble, digging mass graves, and fleeing from the Red Army.
This Aryan hero should compare himself to his predecessors and draw the obvious conclusion.

// Hey I lost 15 lbs so far on the "Summer of Recovery Diet"...

elbruce Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:32:08pm

re: #28 Charles

Fox News is still in full-on anti-mosque mode. Just checked it out and Laura Ingraham is ranting away.

They might want to check under the covers again and see who they're in bed with. On a lot of counts.

Randall Gross Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:32:24pm

re: #46 Winny Spencer

Huh? A Bobby Sands poster in the middle? These guys really have an odd way of picking and choosing whom they pay homage to.

Yeah, they like the IRA, they are Catholic and fit right in with VB, Lega Nord, etc. etc.

Decatur Deb Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:35:06pm

re: #50 Thanos

Yeah, they like the IRA, they are Catholic and fit right in with VB, Lega Nord, etc. etc.

Looks like just another way to be "against daddy".

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:35:33pm

re: #50 Thanos

Yeah, they like the IRA, they are Catholic and fit right in with VB, Lega Nord, etc. etc.

Jesus. My life is so simple. I don't like terrorist organizations. That's it. I don't check their race, color, creed or national origin.

OK, I thought the Meibion Glyndwr were funny, in a horrible way, but I didn't LIKE them.

elbruce Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:39:15pm

re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist

Jesus. My life is so simple. I don't like terrorist organizations. That's it. I don't check their race, color, creed or national origin.

Remember, if you don't always say "Islamofascist" when denouncing terrorism, it means you must be defending that kind.

///

Winny Spencer Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:39:39pm

re: #50 Thanos

Yeah, they like the IRA, they are Catholic and fit right in with VB, Lega Nord, etc. etc.

Ah, thanks. That explains it.

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:41:32pm

re: #53 elbruce

Remember, if you don't always say "Islamofascist" when denouncing terrorism, it means you must be defending that kind.

///

Or, at least failing to recognize their special specialness.

elbruce Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:43:51pm

CAUGHT ON TAPE: Republican operatives showing the method they use to distribute GOP talking points. See the method that the establishment GOP uses to disseminate their propaganda items from one Republican to another:

Youtube Video

Stanghazi Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:46:49pm

re: #56 elbruce

Brutal

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:47:45pm

I like elephants.

Gus Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:48:17pm

Thanks for the hat tip Charles.

goddamnedfrank Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:48:31pm

re: #55 SanFranciscoZionist

Or, at least failing to recognize their special specialness.

And setting them "aside from the rest of humanity." Which seems like a prelude to a pogrom.

Walter L. Newton Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:48:48pm

re: #59 Gus 802

Thanks for the hat tip Charles.

How did you business meeting go last week?

Stanghazi Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:48:50pm

And Bloomberg doubles down.

Thank you Mayor of NYC.

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Gus Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:50:18pm

re: #61 Walter L. Newton

How did you business meeting go last week?

Got the project. Thanks for asking. Isn't a ton of money but it'll pay for this months rent and more.

Dancing along the light of day Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:50:38pm

re: #63 Gus 802

Congratulations!

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:51:15pm

re: #60 goddamnedfrank

And setting them "aside from the rest of humanity." Which seems like a prelude to a pogrom.

Mostly just whining, I think.

Thank God.

AntonSirius Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:51:18pm

re: #4 jamesfirecat

///This picture makes me long for my grand parent's day when at least those who claimed to be nazi supermen actually bothered to be at least good looking...

That's ubermensch to you. Filthy shvine!

Gus Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:51:50pm

re: #64 Floral Giraffe

Congratulations!

Thanks Ms. Giraffe. ;)

jaunte Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:52:07pm

re: #62 Stanley Sea

And Bloomberg doubles down.

Thank you Mayor of NYC.

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Excellent.

But if we say that a mosque and community center should not be built near the perimeter of the World Trade Center site, we would compromise our commitment to fighting terror with freedom.

We would undercut the values and principles that so many heroes died protecting. We would feed the false impressions that some Americans have about Muslims. We would send a signal around the world that Muslim Americans may be equal in the eyes of the law, but separate in the eyes of their countrymen. And we would hand a valuable propaganda tool to terrorist recruiters, who spread the fallacy that America is at war with Islam.
Islam did not attack the World Trade Center -- Al-Qaeda did. To implicate all of Islam for the actions of a few who twisted a great religion is unfair and un-American. Today we are not at war with Islam -- we are at war with Al-Qaeda and other extremists who hate freedom.

Walter L. Newton Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:53:20pm

re: #63 Gus 802

Got the project. Thanks for asking. Isn't a ton of money but it'll pay for this months rent and more.

Hey... every penny counts. Just like the project Kaiser dropped in my lap this pass summer... yea... will pay for the vacation to France in Jan. I'm taking the work the way I can get it... piecemeal is fine as long as I'm paying bills and having a little fun. Better than the alternative.

jamesfirecat Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:53:56pm

re: #45 Walter L. Newton

James... the on air staff of Fox are aware of Alwaleed and his involvement with News Corp. You make this sound like it's some secret. We discuss this on LGF years ago.

So you're team evil then?

Gus Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:54:59pm

re: #69 Walter L. Newton

Hey... every penny counts. Just like the project Kaiser dropped in my lap this pass summer... yea... will pay for the vacation to France in Jan. I'm taking the work the way I can get it... piecemeal is fine as long as I'm paying bills and having a little fun. Better than the alternative.

Sure is better than the alternative. It's amazing how when you're down to pocket change how the final panic sets in and all the blood leaves my head.

Walter L. Newton Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:55:33pm

re: #70 jamesfirecat

So you're team evil then?

You're an annoying little wanker some times.

Gus Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:55:49pm

The write-up for the Youtube video is good too:

People oppose the EDL because of what it is, not because of what some EDL activists say they'd like it to be, and the facts are simple - the EDL is being used as a Trojan Horse by Nazis and BNP activists.

Whether EDL leaders planned it that way is a moot point, but EDL leaders Stephen Yaxley-Lennon and Chris Renton (aka John Sheridan) are BNP, Jeff Marsh (aka Joe Casuals) promotes Nazi music in his blog and says he supports voting BNP, Paul Ray says he's NOT anti-BNP but he was shunned by EDL leaders for opposing Renton linking with Nazis, Joel Titus says he opposes the BNP but accepted BNP activists as friends on You Tube, and EDL poster-boy Guramit Singh is a proven racist. Other movers and shakers in the original EDL include NF activist David Tull and BNP activist David Cooling. With that kind of leadership, of course it's the EDL's fault Nazis turn up at EDL demos!

Stanghazi Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:56:21pm

re: #72 Walter L. Newton

You're an annoying little wanker some times.

An employed one. Better all the time.

Dancing along the light of day Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:57:07pm

BBL.
Congrats to Gus, Walter & James & any other Lizards with good news!

brookly red Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:57:21pm

re: #62 Stanley Sea

And Bloomberg doubles down.

Thank you Mayor of NYC.

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

you know he is going to run in 2012, don't you?

jamesfirecat Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:58:09pm

re: #72 Walter L. Newton

You're an annoying little wanker some times.

I was referencing the Daily Show clip Charles posted earlier today "Team Evil" means you believe that Fox's on air people are intentionally trying to hide their organization's own connections rather than simply being blissfully unaware of them.

Not at all intended as a personal insult.

Stanghazi Tue, Aug 24, 2010 5:58:55pm

re: #76 brookly red

you know he is going to run in 2012, don't you?

Good going. He'll win.

Better on the side of right, no matter the circumstance.

Decatur Deb Tue, Aug 24, 2010 6:00:32pm

re: #50 Thanos

Yeah, they like the IRA, they are Catholic and fit right in with VB, Lega Nord, etc. etc.

re: #54 Winny Spencer

Ah, thanks. That explains it.

Been digging for a half hour and don't find a Catholic component in EDL. They claim specifically not to be particularly Christian, and have been attacked (Bradford) by RC and 3 other churces.

Winny Spencer Tue, Aug 24, 2010 6:06:27pm

re: #79 Decatur Deb

Those particular posts were about Vlaams Belang, not the EDL. You're right, there is nothing remotely Catholic about the EDL.

Decatur Deb Tue, Aug 24, 2010 6:07:58pm

re: #80 Winny Spencer

Those particular posts were about Vlaams Belang, not the EDL. You're right, there is nothing remotely Catholic about the EDL.

Thanks--had me confused. I didn't see the photo.

Ben G. Hazi Tue, Aug 24, 2010 6:11:05pm

re: #18 SanFranciscoZionist

Oswald Mosley's bastard grandchildren.

I slightly disagree with that assessment, SFZ...they're just fucking bastards.

Ben G. Hazi Tue, Aug 24, 2010 6:22:41pm

re: #45 Walter L. Newton

James... the on air staff of Fox are aware of Alwaleed and his involvement with News Corp. You make this sound like it's some secret. We discuss this on LGF years ago.

It's more of less an open secret....most everyone at News Corp. and the rest of the MSM knows about Alwaleed's stake in News Corp., but says very little (if anything) in public about it, particularly in relation to stories such as the brouhaha with Cordoba House/Park51.

The viewing public is being treated like mushrooms (that is, kept in the dark and fed a bunch of shit), while the rest of the MSM should be hammering Fox News and News Corp. about Alwaleed for all it's worth, if only for ratings, especially when conflict of interests occur.

Amory Blaine Tue, Aug 24, 2010 6:46:08pm

re: #16 darthstar

A swastika is just a way of having four Ls in one big happy circle.

L is for LOVE!!!!!

elbruce Tue, Aug 24, 2010 6:47:54pm

re: #83 talon_262

It's more of less an open secret...most everyone at News Corp. and the rest of the MSM knows about Alwaleed's stake in News Corp., but says very little (if anything) in public about it, particularly in relation to stories such as the brouhaha with Cordoba House/Park51.

The viewing public is being treated like mushrooms (that is, kept in the dark and fed a bunch of shit), while the rest of the MSM should be hammering Fox News and News Corp. about Alwaleed for all it's worth, if only for ratings, especially when conflict of interests occur.

Until they started picking on his Kingdom Foundation on air, it would be a tricky story to highlight. Just bringing up the fact that a Saudi controls 7% of NewsCorp by itself smacks of bigotry. One would need to contrast that control with the stories and opinion that FNC is putting out. The fact that they have been banging the anti-Islam drum for so long does make for a story, but it would be kind of a confusing one.

What it boils down to is, they really screwed up with this Kingdom Foundation talk, and have opened the door to legitimately newsworthy stories regarding their ownership and the fact that they're receiving funding from the exact same sources that they're blaming the Cordoba Initiative for receiving funding from.

captdiggs Tue, Aug 24, 2010 6:56:17pm

re: #83 talon_262

the rest of the MSM should be hammering Fox News and News Corp. about Alwaleed for all it's worth,

They won't, because they see that to do so shines a light on Imam Rauf's financial dealings with the same person.
The knife cuts both ways, which is why I'm surprised at all the Al Alweed brouhaha.
Using al alweed to condemn Newscorp is overlooking the fact that all that is heaped on Newscorp would quite rightly be heaped on Rauf and his Cordoba initiative.

elbruce Tue, Aug 24, 2010 7:10:16pm

re: #86 captdiggs

They won't, because they see that to do so shines a light on Imam Rauf's financial dealings with the same person.

I don't think the MSM really cares about defending Imam Rauf, or... they might have done some of that by now.

re: #86 captdiggs

The knife cuts both ways, which is why I'm surprised at all the Al Alweed brouhaha.

Using al alweed to condemn Newscorp is overlooking the fact that all that is heaped on Newscorp would quite rightly be heaped on Rauf and his Cordoba initiative.

It was FOX News who already brought it up to begin with. That's the point. Nobody here is saying bin Talal is a bad guy, or that taking money from him makes you shady. FOX News is already saying that about Imam Rauf, when the fact is they do the same thing.

AntonSirius Tue, Aug 24, 2010 7:23:50pm

re: #62 Stanley Sea

And Bloomberg doubles down.

Thank you Mayor of NYC.

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Bloomberg/somebody else 2012!

AntonSirius Tue, Aug 24, 2010 7:26:07pm

Actually, let me clarify that:

Bloomberg/Huntsman '12!

That ticket, I might vote for.

goddamnedfrank Tue, Aug 24, 2010 8:00:05pm

"It's a table full of hate desserts!"

-Alex Wagner

Eclectic Infidel Tue, Aug 24, 2010 8:45:00pm

re: #3 EmmmieG

Wait...wait...dude with a swastika tattoo, doing the stolen "Heil" sign, in front of a flag that says "England?"

Has anyone informed him that the nazis attacked England and everything it stood for?

A feudal mentality is not concerned with such things.

captdiggs Tue, Aug 24, 2010 8:56:28pm

re: #87 elbruce

I don't think the MSM really cares about defending Imam Rauf, or... they might have done some of that by now.

Another reflexive defense that ignores facts

If you think the (left leaning) media has not been defending Rauf/the mosque, you haven't been paying attention. Even here, dozens of lkinks to media defending Rauf and the mosque have been posted.

Nobody here is saying bin Talal is a bad guy

I have for one. Others here have acknowledged that Al Alweed has supported suicide bombers through donations to the families of suicide bombers.

I have to agree with Spare, all reason about this is out the window.
Now we have arguments that go; * Al Alweed is a good guy, but Fox doing business with him makes them bad, and never mind what Rauf and Cordoba does with al alweed*

Mentis Fugit Tue, Aug 24, 2010 9:07:16pm

re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, I thought the Meibion Glyndwr were funny, in a horrible way, but I didn't LIKE them.

"Come home to a Real Fire. Buy a Cottage in Wales." - Not the Nine O'Clock News

yasharki Tue, Aug 24, 2010 11:07:12pm

I'm sure it's been asked before, but why is anyone paying attention to nonsensical ramblings of someone like Pam?

To an outside observer like myself, it seems like she is either a clinical case study of paranoid schizophrenia, or a somewhat clever con artist riding the terrorism scare wave.

I wish some of the people who know this harpy personally would provide some details. It just blows my mind how someone like her gets any mention in intelligent and coherent blogs, let alone major news outlets...

Charles Johnson Wed, Aug 25, 2010 9:14:59am

re: #92 captdiggs

I have to agree with Spare, all reason about this is out the window.

A classic case of projection.

Dom Wed, Aug 25, 2010 9:53:39am

The EDL are hardcore neo-nazis. In the UK it isn't really open to debate. IF Spencer genuinely thinks otherwise - and by now he should know them damn well - he has been hoodwinked and should accept as a warning in good faith, that these people are white supremacist Hitler-lovers and not freedom fighters at all. Charles is totaly 100% on the money.

SueG Wed, Aug 25, 2010 12:15:28pm

I don't know if I have to laugh or cry. Speechless.

Yashmak Wed, Aug 25, 2010 2:27:22pm

I don't know who is more repellant. The fat Nazi, or Geller.

im_gumby_damnit Thu, Aug 26, 2010 11:30:49am

Saw that picture of Pamela Geller and immediately had a Rocky Horror Picture Show flashback.

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