1 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 11:42:58am

We watched that in my office this morning. We were all laughing our asses off.

2 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 11:53:22am

Just had a very interesting conversation with a journalist from Dutch newspaper NRC Handelsblad, about the connections between European far right groups and the US anti-Muslim movement.

3 b_sharp  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 11:55:37am

re: #2 Charles

Just had a very interesting conversation with a journalist from Dutch newspaper NRC Handelsblad, about the connections between European far right groups and the US anti-Muslim movement.

And what were your conclusions?

4 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 11:55:59am

I love the Beck “This is what you need to do” segment.

5 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 11:59:41am

re: #2 Charles

Anything interesting to tell? Will this person be writing an article about the conversation?

6 Stanley Sea  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:04:03pm

“I’ll be two flights down”

So many ways to interpret that one Beck.

7 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:04:31pm

The Geller-thing’s name came up quite a bit.

8 elbruce  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:08:20pm

I don’t remember if I threw this in before. If so, sorry. But it seems that that Taiwanese company that makes those hilarious animated news items with the cheap CGI has now covered the anti-mosque situation:

9 b_sharp  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:08:26pm

re: #7 Charles

The Geller-thing’s name came up quite a bit.

I hear she’s actually an alien.

10 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:08:57pm

re: #7 Charles

The Geller-thing’s name came up quite a bit.

I’ll bet “shrieking harpy” sounds great in Dutch.

11 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:10:31pm

I’m going to go off topic early… I suspect this is sort of a semi-open thread… delete this if needed…

Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

In a filing this week in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, the Justice Department said that “no charges are either pending or contemplated with respect to al-Nashiri in the near future.”

The statement, tucked into a motion to dismiss a petition by Nashiri’s attorneys, suggests that the prospect of further military trials for detainees held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, has all but ground to a halt, much as the administration’s plan to try the accused plotters of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in federal court has stalled.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com…]

I’m not totally clear on this, the article sort of goes back and forth between statements from the military, the administration and “sources,” but at first sniff, I don’t like.

12 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:15:56pm

Sharron Angle twice refuses to disavow claim that there are “domestic enemies” in Congress

during a 2009 interview, a right-wing talk show host told Angle that there are “domestic enemies” and “homegrown enemies” within the “walls of the Senate and the Congress.” Angle replied: “Yes, I think you’re right.”

Yesterday, Angle was asked by Nevada radio host Heidi Harris if she wanted to disavow the remarks. Both times, she declined:

HARRIS: They have gone back to almost a year ago, dug through a conversation you had with my buddy Bill Manders up there in Reno, the big talker up there, where he said that we have domestic enemies and he thinks some of them are in the walls of the Senate and Congress, and you agreed with him. Did you agree with him?

ANGLE: Well, we were talking about what’s going on in Congress, of course, and the policies that have come out of Congress, and those policies as we’ve all seen over the last 18 months have definitely hurt our country.

HARRIS: Yeah, well I agree with you by the way, but I wanted to make sure you got you a chance to clarify that, because I’ll tell you the truth, Sharron. I do think we actually do have folks in Congress who truly want to do us harm and see us change from the nation we are now.

ANGLE: There is no doubt that the policies that have been coming out in the last 18 months have injured us, and injured us most specifically here in Nevada.

At the end of the exchange, Harris claimed that there are people in Congress who “truly want to do us harm.” Angle didn’t disavow that statement, either. Audio here.

13 Winny Spencer  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:16:37pm

re: #2 Charles

On that note, this is politics here in Sweden 2010:

Recently released election advert (for tv) for the Sweden Democrats:
The voice-over is in Swedish, but the message should be easy to discern.

Translation:
“Politics is essentially about prioritizing.
Now, YOU have a choice.
On the 19th of September, you can choose - an end to immigration instead of an end to pensions.
Vote for the Sweden Democrats.”

An army of burqas.

14 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:18:10pm

re: #10 wrenchwench

I’ll bet “shrieking harpy” sounds great in Dutch.

Gieren harpij

15 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:19:12pm

re: #12 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

16 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:19:16pm

re: #13 Winny Spencer

On that note, this is politics here in Sweden 2010:

Recently released election advert (for tv) for the Sweden Democrats:
The voice-over is in Swedish, but the message should be easy to discern.

[Video]

Translation:
“Politics is essentially about prioritizing.
Now, YOU have a choice.
On the 19th of September, you can choose - an end to immigration instead of an end to pensions.
Vote for the Sweden Democrats.”

An army of burqas.

Wow. An overt appeal to xenophobia. This is what Spencer and Geller and their friends are trying to import to America.

17 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:22:03pm

re: #16 Charles

Wow. An overt appeal to xenophobia. This is what Spencer and Geller and their friends are trying to import to America.

Trying?

18 elbruce  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:23:53pm

re: #11 Walter L. Newton

I’m going to go off topic early… I suspect this is sort of a semi-open thread… delete this if needed…

Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

The DoJ is kind of screwed no matter what they do. Either you continue to hold detainees in violation of the Constitution, or you try them in court. If you try them in court, then the fact that they’ve been tortured, mistreated and held for years without trial makes whatever evidence was gathered completely useless for legal purposes. It’s also been my understanding that in most if not all of those cases, there wasn’t really any evidence collected to begin with.

19 Gus  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:24:17pm

re: #13 Winny Spencer

On that note, this is politics here in Sweden 2010:

Recently released election advert (for tv) for the Sweden Democrats:
The voice-over is in Swedish, but the message should be easy to discern.

[Video]Translation:
“Politics is essentially about prioritizing.
Now, YOU have a choice.
On the 19th of September, you can choose - an end to immigration instead of an end to pensions.
Vote for the Sweden Democrats.”

An army of burqas.

What in hell. That’s just nuts.

20 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:24:18pm

re: #13 Winny Spencer

OMG! That’s hideous.

It was just three years ago Charles had this in a post:

And LGF reader “Dave of Sweden” points out another problematic member:

Unfortunately, the Swedish representative Ekeroth is a member of a pretty vile party called Sverigedemokraterna (Sweden democrats), which was originally an openly racist organization. Recently they’ve tried to put up a different facade, but I’m not convinced.

…and some people here argued that there was nothing wrong with Sverigedemokraterna.

21 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:25:18pm

re: #18 elbruce

The DoJ is kind of screwed no matter what they do. Either you continue to hold detainees in violation of the Constitution, or you try them in court. If you try them in court, then the fact that they’ve been tortured, mistreated and held for years without trial makes whatever evidence was gathered completely useless for legal purposes. It’s also been my understanding that in most if not all of those cases, there wasn’t really any evidence collected to begin with.

Source… links…

22 elbruce  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:25:35pm

re: #16 Charles

This is what Spencer and Geller and their friends are trying to import to America.

We’ve had plenty of it for a long time. For pretty much ever, in fact.

I don’t get this “pensions vs. immigration” thing though. That’s a weird set of unrelated things to try to make people choose between.

23 Gus  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:28:21pm
24 webevintage  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:32:18pm

re: #23 Gus 802

Beckapalooza

hahahahaha
I hope Wonkette will be live blogging to event.

25 Gus  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:33:17pm

Breaking news!

Obama rides a bicycle.

Ed Morrissey will have the full report at 6 PM.

26 PT Barnum  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:33:53pm

The Stewart thing was hysterical. Wife and I laughed our asses off last night. The problem isn’t Beck, it’s the people who don’t seem to understand he’s a bullshit artist.

27 Nimed  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:34:57pm

re: #22 elbruce

We’ve had plenty of it for a long time. For pretty much ever, in fact.

I don’t get this “pensions vs. immigration” thing though. That’s a weird set of unrelated things to try to make people choose between.

They’re suggesting that Swedish Muslims live on welfare.

Funnily enough, because of typically low birth rates the sustainability of the generous European social democracies depend on a steady influx of young immigrants.

28 darthstar  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:36:20pm

Hard to believe it’s been 20 years to the day. Motherfucker rocked.

29 PT Barnum  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:36:38pm

re: #25 Gus 802

Breaking news!

Obama rides a bicycle.

Ed Morrissey will have the full report at 6 PM.

Remember this?

30 webevintage  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:38:16pm

re: #25 Gus 802

Breaking news!

Obama rides a bicycle.

Ed Morrissey will have the full report at 6 PM.

If only he was out killing something in a manly way.
/

and is it wrong here to say I’d like to smack Krauthammer for this:
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com…]

31 Gus  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:38:24pm

re: #29 PT Barnum

Remember this?

Think I saw that once or twice before.

32 Winny Spencer  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:38:43pm

re: #27 Nimed

And have babies, notice the pram(s).

And good point.

33 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:39:51pm

re: #25 Gus 802

Breaking news!

Obama rides a bicycle.

Ed Morrissey will have the full report at 6 PM.

That’s how you know he’s a sekrit marxist muslim. Real American Presidents don’t ride bikes, they jog.

34 b_sharp  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:40:38pm

re: #28 darthstar

Hard to believe it’s been 20 years to the day. Motherfucker rocked.


[Video]

I was sitting in a tent trailer just outside Calgary when we first heard about the crash. It was originally reported that it was Clapton’s heli that crashed and my wife and I went into a kind of mini-shock. When we learned it was Stevie I damn near cried. It was a crappy 35th birthday present.

35 elbruce  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:40:53pm

re: #21 Walter L. Newton

Source… links…

Here’s 2 for now:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com…]

[Link: www.mcclatchydc.com…]

But I’ve heard more stories like this than I’ve heard any actual evidence against any detainees. It was widely reported that we were taking in people sight unseen around Afghanistan based on a bounty system. For most of the people who we ended up releasing after only a few years of captivity, it turned out their only crime was to not be a local, so the locals felt no compunction against turning them in to the U.S. for bounty. It’s unknown how many remaining detainees were turned in under similar circumstances. If that were so, it wouldn’t be possible for any evidence against them to exist.

Bush started out saying that every single person being detained in Guantanamo Bay were “the worst of the worst.” Then he had to let some of them go. Then he said that all the ones remaining were “the worst of the worst.” Then he had to let more of them go. Then he said that all the ones remaining were “the worst of the worst.” I’m not inclined to start believing that now.

36 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:41:04pm

re: #33 Slumbering Behemoth

That’s how you know he’s a sekrit marxist muslim. Real American Presidents don’t ride bikes, they jog.

Its very confusing.

37 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:42:23pm

re: #33 Slumbering Behemoth

That’s how you know he’s a sekrit marxist muslim. Real American Presidents don’t ride bikes, they jog.

Except the mountain biking President GW Bush.

38 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:43:19pm

re: #25 Gus 802

Breaking news!

Obama rides a bicycle.

Ed Morrissey will have the full report at 6 PM.

Heh. At least he put some air in the tires this time.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

39 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:43:39pm

re: #37 wrenchwench

Except the mountain biking President GW Bush.

Of course, but we have already determined that he too is a sekrit moslem.

40 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:43:59pm

re: #34 b_sharp

I was sitting in a tent trailer just outside Calgary when we first heard about the crash. It was originally reported that it was Clapton’s heli that crashed and my wife and I went into a kind of mini-shock. When we learned it was Stevie I damn near cried. It was a crappy 35th birthday present.

I can do the math.

Happy 55th birthday!

Happier than the 35th one, I hope.

41 elbruce  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:44:57pm

re: #33 Slumbering Behemoth

That’s how you know he’s a sekrit marxist muslim. Real American Presidents don’t ride bikes, they jog.

ORLY?

Image: bush_lite_mtb.jpg

42 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:45:35pm

Tony LaRussa and Albert Pujols will be attending the Beck-a-looza. So, how did those two get involved? Because it was pitched as an apolitical event:

Beck, who met Pujols at Busch Stadium before a June appearance at Chaifetz Arena, is promoting the event as an apolitical celebration of the First Amendment and the Special Operations Warrior Foundation. Cardinals manager Tony La Russa, scheduled to introduce Pujols, insisted Thursday that he and Pujols are attending only after receiving assurances that the event is not a thinly disguised political rally.

Some liberal critics have portrayed the three-hour event as a platform for the conservative Tea Party movement.

“I made it clear when we were approached: I said, ‘If it’s political, I wouldn’t even approach Albert with it.’ I don’t want to be there if it’s political,” La Russa said.

43 Gus  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:45:55pm

re: #34 b_sharp

I was sitting in a tent trailer just outside Calgary when we first heard about the crash. It was originally reported that it was Clapton’s heli that crashed and my wife and I went into a kind of mini-shock. When we learned it was Stevie I damn near cried. It was a crappy 35th birthday present.

Pilot error.

44 b_sharp  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:46:34pm

re: #40 wrenchwench

I can do the math.

Happy 55th birthday!

Happier than the 35th one, I hope.

Thanks. Although I reject the reality that makes me that old. I’m really only 38.

Well, I’m talking to you people so yah, it’s been much better. When the wife gets home tonight it should be even better than that.

45 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:47:01pm

Amateur NC ghost hunter looking for ‘ghost train’ hit and killed by real train

A man who was with about a dozen people who were looking for a legendary “ghost train” in Iredell County was hit by a locomotive and killed early Friday morning.

46 b_sharp  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:47:45pm

re: #43 Gus 802

Pilot error.

That makes it even more disheartening.
We lost a hell of a musician that day.

47 b_sharp  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:49:24pm

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Amateur NC ghost hunter looking for ‘ghost train’ hit and killed by real train

I hate to speak ill of the dead, but this truly deserves a Darwin award.

48 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:50:09pm

re: #13 Winny Spencer

On that note, this is politics here in Sweden 2010:

Recently released election advert (for tv) for the Sweden Democrats:
The voice-over is in Swedish, but the message should be easy to discern.


[Video]Translation:
“Politics is essentially about prioritizing.
Now, YOU have a choice.
On the 19th of September, you can choose - an end to immigration instead of an end to pensions.
Vote for the Sweden Democrats.”

An army of burqas.

Maybe I’m just over thinking things, but I believe I noticed a secondary theme in that ad beyond “pensioner v. welfare immigrant”. The imagery seems to suggest a call to preserve racial/national identity, in that “Our people old and few, while Theirs are many and growing”.

I dunno. Like I said, maybe I’m over thinking this.

49 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:50:58pm

re: #41 elbruce

I shall refer you to comment #39.

50 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:51:34pm

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Amateur NC ghost hunter looking for ‘ghost train’ hit and killed by real train

His words to St. Peter at the Pearly Gates..

“Funny thing is, I never saw it coming!”

51 Pass The Moonbaticide  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:51:43pm

I cant’t watch this - It claims “Sorry, Videos are not currently available in your country”. (UK)

Does anybody have a Youtube - or similarsite - link to the same ?

52 Gus  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:52:19pm

re: #47 b_sharp

I hate to speak ill of the dead, but this truly deserves a Darwin award.

I’m kind of wondering about the amateur part. Like is there really such thing as a professional ghost hunter? That’s almost like either being an amateur or professional zombie hunter.

53 elbruce  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:52:49pm

re: #49 Slumbering Behemoth

I shall refer you to comment #39.

Sometimes things slip in between. while I’m typing something else. Almost always, in fact.

54 b_sharp  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:53:58pm

re: #52 Gus 802

I’m kind of wondering about the amateur part. Like is there really such thing as a professional ghost hunter? That’s almost like either being an amateur or professional zombie hunter.

I think only dead people can be considered highly qualified professionals.

55 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:54:03pm

re: #53 elbruce

Happens all the time. Laters all.

56 Virginia Plain  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:54:10pm

The Sky is Crying:

57 elbruce  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:56:00pm

re: #52 Gus 802

Like is there really such thing as a professional ghost hunter?

Only if you can get somebody to pay you.

What is a “ghost train,” anyway? I could never figure that part out.

58 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:56:30pm

AN Massive solar storm to hit Earth in 2012 with ‘force of 100m bombs’
[Link: in.news.yahoo.com…]

Anyone laughing at the Mayans NOW!?!?!

/

59 palomino  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:56:35pm

re: #42 lawhawk

Tony LaRussa and Albert Pujols will be attending the Beck-a-looza. So, how did those two get involved? Because it was pitched as an apolitical event:

Not sure how this could be seen as a non-political event. All of the speakers are apparently conservatives, with Palin as the keynote. Furthermore, everything Beck does is political.

And the theme of “Restoring Honor” suggests that it’s been lost over the last two years with Dems in charge.

But it’s not fair to blame Larussa or Pujols. They’re supporting what sounds like a good cause for the troops, and they probably don’t pay enough attention to TV hacks to know what a charlatan Beck really is. Baseball is pretty consuming, especially when you’re in a race to make the playoffs.

60 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:56:45pm

OT carryover from last thread.

We have a late entrant into the nutter statement of the day. This from none other than Fidel Castro, who thinks that OBL is on the US payroll and was hired by the CIA for the Bush Administration.

61 b_sharp  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:57:21pm

re: #57 elbruce

Only if you can get somebody to pay you.

What is a “ghost train,” anyway? I could never figure that part out.

Here you go.

62 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:57:38pm

re: #60 lawhawk

OT carryover from last thread.

We have a late entrant into the nutter statement of the day. This from none other than Fidel Castro, who thinks that OBL is on the US payroll and was hired by the CIA for the Bush Administration.

Ole Fidels’ been talking to Rosie O’Donnel again, I see!!

63 deranged cat  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:58:06pm

re: #38 Charles

different commenters back then! and a very different tone too.

64 Gus  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:58:12pm

re: #57 elbruce

Only if you can get somebody to pay you.

What is a “ghost train,” anyway? I could never figure that part out.

A mythical apparition of a train that was destroyed but came back in use (after its “death”) and is usually seen as a transparent form of its original self typically in gray scale.

/

65 webevintage  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:58:14pm

I just got a new rolling pin.
It is 20 inches long…the box it came in was 42 inches long.

66 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:58:43pm

re: #65 webevintage

I just got a new rolling pin.
It is 20 inches long…the box it came in was 42 inches long.

rolling pin envy !?!?!?

67 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:58:47pm

re: #64 Gus 802

A mythical apparition of a train that was destroyed but came back in use (after its “death”) and is usually seen as a transparent form of its original self typically in gray scale.

/

That sounds like very specific instructions in photoshop.

*ahem*

68 ShaunP  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 12:59:32pm

I’m not sure WTF this guy was doing:

Cruiser cam catches 100 mph crash…


Witnesses said moments before the crash, Brennan was passing other drivers at speeds of at least 100 mph. He crashed when he drove off the left side of the roadway while passing a Sugarcreek Twp. police car. The crash was caught on that officer’s cruiser camera.

“He went down into the median, into the grass, hit the guardrail, went airborne and the car hit the center post of the bridge and literally exploded into three main pieces,” said witness Mark Riley.

Police said Brennan was alert and conscious after the crash and was flown to Miami Valley Hospital by Careflight where he was last listed in critical condition.

“He is very lucky to still be alive at this point,” said Ohio State Highway Patrol Lt. Marty Fellure. “You can see behind me the impact he took and where he got ejected and landed, he’s a very fortunate man right now.”

And of course, there are already gif’s of this on the interwebs:

Image: 2qi7oye.gif

69 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:00:02pm

re: #64 Gus 802

A mythical apparition of a train that was destroyed but came back in use (after its “death”) and is usually seen as a transparent form of its original self typically in gray scale.

/

Though in a Peter Jackson production, it will most likely end up a sort of phosphorescent green

70 elbruce  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:00:15pm

If things can be ghosts, I’m gonna open up a store selling ghost merchandise. Advertise on Glenn Beck.

71 deranged cat  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:00:48pm

re: #68 ShaunP

wow, holy crap.

72 Pass The Moonbaticide  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:00:57pm

re: #61 b_sharp
I’d forgotten that scene !
Thank you - Great Film !

73 deranged cat  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:02:00pm

re: #68 ShaunP

wait, let me change that to HOLY SH*T.

74 Gus  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:02:23pm

re: #70 elbruce

If things can be ghosts, I’m gonna open up a store selling ghost merchandise. Advertise on Glenn Beck.

He’s already selling gold at ghost prices.

/

75 webevintage  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:02:37pm

re: #52 Gus 802

I’m kind of wondering about the amateur part. Like is there really such thing as a professional ghost hunter? That’s almost like either being an amateur or professional zombie hunter.

Not only are they “professional” but they get paid to ghost hunt on TV.
The one with TAPS is boring, but I have to say that the one from the travel channel is hilarious in the douchbaggery of the guys yelling at the “spirits” and then screaming like little girls when they think they have been touched or they hear a cat make a noise.
[Link: www.travelchannel.com…]

76 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:03:12pm

re: #38 Charles

But it’s a girl’s bike. ////

77 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:03:48pm

re: #70 elbruce

Only works if it’s golden hued.

78 Gus  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:03:55pm

re: #75 webevintage

Not only are they “professional” but they get paid to ghost hunt on TV.
The one with TAPS is boring, but I have to say that the one from the travel channel is hilarious in the douchbaggery of the guys yelling at the “spirits” and then screaming like little girls when they think they have been touched or they hear a cat make a noise.
[Link: www.travelchannel.com…]

Yeah. But to me a professional ghost hunter is like a creationist scientist.

79 ShaunP  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:05:25pm

re: #76 lawhawk

But it’s a girl’s bike. ///

LOL, I thought the same thing… :D

80 elbruce  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:05:29pm

re: #77 lawhawk

Only works if it’s golden hued.

Sure, I’ll tell them that it’s gold. Ghost gold!

81 webevintage  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:06:23pm

re: #79 ShaunP

LOL, I thought the same thing… :D

Why do guy’s bikes have the bar of pain on them?

82 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:06:27pm

Fidelsticks Alert:

Fidel Castro says Osama bin Laden is a US agent
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
08/27/2010 20:58
HAVANA — Fidel Castro said Friday that al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden is a bought-and-paid-for CIA agent who always popped up when former US President George W. Bush needed to scare the world, arguing that documents recently posted on the Internet prove it.

“Any time Bush would stir up fear and make a big speech, bin Laden would appear threatening people with a story about what he was going to do,” Castro told state media during a meeting with a Lithuanian-born writer known for advancing conspiracy theories about world domination. “Bush never lacked for bin Laden’s support. He was a subordinate.”

Castro said documents posted on WikiLeaks.org — a website that recently released thousands of pages of classified documents from the Afghan war — “effectively proved he was a CIA agent.” He did not elaborate.

The comments, published in the Communist Party daily Granma on Friday, were the latest in a series of provocative statements by the 84-year-old revolutionary, who has emerged from seclusion to warn that the planet is on the brink of nuclear war.
[Link: www.jpost.com…]

83 celticdragon  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:06:46pm

O/T

You guys are not going to believe this one. I sure couldn’t.

Imagine you come home from work one day to a notice on your front door that you have 45 days to demolish your house, or the city will do it for you. Oh, and you’re paying for it.

This is happening right now in Montgomery, Ala., and here is how it works: The city decides it doesn’t like your property for one reason or another, so it declares it a “public nuisance.” It mails you a notice that you have 45 days to demolish your property, at your expense, or the city will do it for you (and, of course, bill you).

The city has even demolished homes that still being built!!

Consider Jimmy McCall. Jimmy was in the process of building from the ground-up a home for his family when he was notified it was slated for demolition. After one failed attempt to bulldoze the half-completed home, the city came back under this state law and got what they were fighting for: Jimmy’s would-be dream home was demolished, and he was stuck with the bill.


Of course, it almost goes without saying that most of the home owners are African Americans…

The end game in Montgomery, however, is obvious. The city wants to clear and ultimately sell-off the property of lower-income, mostly black Alabamans to higher-income developers, but it can’t do that through the state’s eminent domain law. So it found a backdoor, which also incidentally does not require the city to compensate property owners for their loss, but instead charges them.

I have a feeling that none of the Tea Party types in Washington DC this weekend to listen to Beck step on Dr Kings legacy will in any way give a shit about this.

84 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:08:58pm

re: #78 Gus 802

Yeah. But to me a professional ghost hunter is like a creationist scientist.

No kidding. This sort of claptrap is no better for anyones minds than creationism and the other trappings that go along with most mystical bullshit. But you have actual scientist, not just pseudo-scientist that believe in paranormal crap, it gets frustrating after a while. I spent years toe to toe debunking this shit, from the common folk to the PHD’s.

85 spikester  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:09:38pm

re: #83 celticdragon

this kind os shit drives otherwise sane people to look at tea parties

86 Gus  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:10:50pm

re: #84 Walter L. Newton

No kidding. This sort of claptrap is no better for anyones minds than creationism and the other trappings that go along with most mystical bullshit. But you have actual scientist, not just pseudo-scientist that believe in paranormal crap, it gets frustrating after a while. I spent years toe to toe debunking this shit, from the common folk to the PHD’s.

Yep. Like UFOs, homeopathy, etc.

87 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:11:52pm

Off to work… later.

88 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:12:26pm

re: #76 lawhawk

But it’s a girl’s bike. ///

re: #79 ShaunP

LOL, I thought the same thing… :D

It’s not, actually. It just has a sloping top tube. You can see his wife has the women’s model.

89 celticdragon  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:12:40pm

re: #85 spikester

this kind os shit drives otherwise sane people to look at tea parties

True…but the tea party demographic is not generally affected by this sort of thing. You don’t see aging upper middle class white people protesting with tricorn hats and readings of the Constitution in front of bulldozers knocking down the home of a working poor black family. Especially not in Alabama.

90 b_sharp  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:14:01pm

re: #88 wrenchwench

re: #79 ShaunP

It’s not, actually. It just has a sloping top tube. You can see his wife has the women’s model.

There you go again, throwing facts into the mix, even though you know it will leave a sour taste in some people’s minds.

91 Pass The Moonbaticide  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:17:02pm
92 celticdragon  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:17:36pm

re: #84 Walter L. Newton

No kidding. This sort of claptrap is no better for anyones minds than creationism and the other trappings that go along with most mystical bullshit. But you have actual scientist, not just pseudo-scientist that believe in paranormal crap, it gets frustrating after a while. I spent years toe to toe debunking this shit, from the common folk to the PHD’s.

I try to keep an open mind. I resisted the whole notion of mindful meditation pain management for years, but it does seem to have validity. Whatever my training in science (geology is about as tangible as you can get…), I am aware that we can’t really explain just how our consciousness works to begin with. What about after death? I have no idea. We cannot prove that there are spirits or ghosts or such, but I am not going to say they are easily disproved either. It would be foolish presumption, in my view.

93 palomino  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:18:16pm

re: #82 Spare O’Lake

That’s rich: Castro warning that we’re on the brink on nuclear war.

The time the US actually was closest to a nuclear war (Cuban missile crisis) Castro himself was kinda sorta involved. Isn’t it time for him to die, or at least retire?

94 elbruce  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:19:18pm

Who is the person who works for the city of Montgomery who is selecting these houses? What’s that person’s name?

95 elbruce  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:21:54pm

re: #92 celticdragon

I try to keep an open mind. I resisted the whole notion of mindful meditation pain management for years, but it does seem to have validity. Whatever my training in science (geology is about as tangible as you can get…), I am aware that we can’t really explain just how our consciousness works to begin with. What about after death? I have no idea. We cannot prove that there are spirits or ghosts or such, but I am not going to say they are easily disproved either. It would be foolish presumption, in my view.

Well then, the limits of what we are willing to treat as serious theories are solely bounded by our imaginations. You don’t have to disprove something somebody made up; it’s incumbent on them to provide proof of it.

96 Nimed  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:30:49pm

re: #30 webevintage

If only he was out killing something in a manly way.
/

and is it wrong here to say I’d like to smack Krauthammer for this:
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com…]

Sigh. I realize Krauthammer has admirers here, but the man now probably surpasses Thomas Friedman in the “wrong about everything” category. He writes:

- Resistance to the vast expansion of government power, intrusiveness and debt, as represented by the Tea Party movement? Why, racist resentment toward a black president.

— Disgust and alarm with the federal government’s unwillingness to curb illegal immigration, as crystallized in the Arizona law? Nativism.

— Opposition to the most radical redefinition of marriage in human history, as expressed in Proposition 8 in California? Homophobia.

— Opposition to a 15-story Islamic center and mosque near Ground Zero? Islamophobia.

I’m willing to bet a lot of money that, in less than 10 years, “Homophobia” and “Islamophobia” are going to be the consensual judgement of pretty much everybody regarding Prop. 8 and the cultural center, including all good thinking Republicans. The Tea Party is of course fueled by more than “resentment towards a black President”, but that’s definitely a part of it. Krauthammer naturally prefers not to deal with reality, so he opts to build a straw man called “Liberalism” (he’s smart enough not to address anyone’s comments in particular) who claims that the Tea Party movement is based exclusively on racism.

But what’s really amazing is that a man who for years staunchly defended the Iraq War, a conflict that has been shown to be consistently unpopular in virtually all polls since 2004, is now singing praises to the “court of public opinion” and writing about the deserved “comeuppance” deserved by “the arrogant elites”.

97 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:36:01pm

re: #96 Nimed

Your criticisms of Krauthammer are speculative and partisan.

98 celticdragon  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:39:16pm

re: #93 palomino

That’s rich: Castro warning that we’re on the brink on nuclear war.

The time the US actually was closest to a nuclear war (Cuban missile crisis) Castro himself was kinda sorta involved. Isn’t it time for him to die, or at least retire?

We came real close several times…possibly even closer then what we knew about during the Cuban Missile Crisis. The Yeltsin/Norwegian Rocket Crisis damned killed all of us..and it never even made the news.

At the Russian radar station, the crew saw the missile suddenly separate into several sections just as the warheads of a Trident missile would. Their trajectory seemed to be carrying them towards Moscow. In Moscow, a signal went out to the nuclear briefcases which always accompany President Boris Yeltsin and top defense officials. Russia had established a deadline: they’re supposed to detect an attack, assess it and reach a decision on retaliation within 10 minutes.

There were only 5 minutes left. Urgent radio contact was made with Russian submarine commanders. Orders were given to go into a state of combat readiness and the military issued orders to the Strategic Forces to prepare to possibly receive the next command, which would have been the launch order.

For 4 minutes, the Russian commanders waited for the order to launch. The Russian strategic plans permit launching Russian missiles before enemy missiles hit Russian territory. Eight minutes after the alarm was first sounded, the mysterious objects fell into the seas. The decision to launch a retaliatory nuclear strike was averted; the Russian forces stood down.

Hours later, the Russians learned that the unidentified object had been a scientific rocket launched from Norway to study the Northern lights. The Russian government had been notified weeks earlier the launch was coming, but no one told the radar crew

More here…


Another nasty scare was during the Able Archer NATO exercise in Europe in 1983. The Russians (party Secretary Andropov was sick and approaching death) were convinced that the exercise was a cover for use of Pershing Missiles to generate a fatal first strike on the Soviet Union during a period of political paralysis. Front line Red Army units were on full war alert, and the unusual amount of near-hysterical coded traffic was noticed by us and the Brits.

Able Archer wound down…we didn’t launch a first strike and Russians finally relaxed and went off of alert…but we didn’t know how close they were to deciding to launch a pre-emptive nuclear attack.

The Collected “What If?”
Eminent Historians Imagine What Might Have Been. pp 394-395.

99 celticdragon  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:40:31pm

re: #95 elbruce

Well then, the limits of what we are willing to treat as serious theories are solely bounded by our imaginations. You don’t have to disprove something somebody made up; it’s incumbent on them to provide proof of it.

It is no more or less provable than the existence of God. It generally comes down to personal experience and inclination.

100 celticdragon  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:44:16pm

re: #96 Nimed

I’m willing to bet a lot of money that, in less than 10 years, “Homophobia” and “Islamophobia” are going to be the consensual judgement of pretty much everybody regarding Prop. 8 and the cultural center, including all good thinking Republicans.

Considering that the GOP is still getting mileage off racist dog whistles, I wouldn’t be willing to think that ten years will be near enough time to let teh man secks kweers who are goin’ ta hell into consideration for actual civil equality. The SOCONS are driving that train and they are not going to slow it down until they die. I give it 25 years minimum.

101 elbruce  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 1:50:39pm

re: #99 celticdragon

It is no more or less provable than the existence of God. It generally comes down to personal experience and inclination.

On the contrary; the claim that ghosts interact with our world is testable. However, God can be defined such that no critical test can disprove Him, but in which He still has a causal relationship with the universe as its creator.

But if we can’t detect ghosts, that is to say if we’re talking about something which has no way of interacting with the real world, then I could substitute unicorns or wookiees and there’s no difference. So the question becomes, why ghosts instead of unicorns or wookiees? It’s completely arbitrary.

102 Blue Point  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 2:27:12pm

One mans dream is another mans hallucination. What a jackass. Wonder who will come and hallucinate with the Great Pretender?

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What is a “Special Operations Warrior Foundation” or should I not want to know?
What a tool.

103 elbruce  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 3:07:54pm

re: #102 nines09

What is a “Special Operations Warrior Foundation” or should I not want to know?

It appears to be a charity that provides scholarships to the kids of Special Ops soldiers who are killed in action. They’re supposed to be getting a bunch of money donated from the event. So, nothing scary there. They’re just the nice charity that you want to throw in so that people will think you’re doing the gig for the right reasons instead of sheer self-aggrandizement.

104 Blue Point  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 3:13:49pm

re: #103 elbruce
Thanks. Not that I have any reason to doubt anything he does. I think you are correct in your assessment.

105 ihateronpaul  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 3:17:58pm

glenn beck makes me sick.
his followers make me sad.

106 AlexRogan  Fri, Aug 27, 2010 5:42:26pm

re: #2 Charles

Just had a very interesting conversation with a journalist from Dutch newspaper NRC Handelsblad, about the connections between European far right groups and the US anti-Muslim movement.

re: #3 b_sharp

And what were your conclusions?

Charles: “I told you so…”

And he has, but the hard right in this country went tone-deaf to reason long ago.

/they can still hear (and make) them dog whistles though…

107 America's Resolve  Sun, Aug 29, 2010 8:18:50am

Sacred ground???

Thought the national mall belonged to ALL Americans???

Godspeed and God Bless America!


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