Pamela Geller Blames Cabbie Slashing on Mosque Supporters

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TPM called hate monger Pamela Geller for a comment about her latest deranged rant: Anti-Mosque Agitator Pam Geller: Mosque Supporters Ginned Up The Cabble Slashing.

Pamela Geller, the blogger behind the movement to stop an Islamic center from being built a couple of blocks from Ground Zero, told TPMMuckraker that she doesn’t know who is behind the attack on the taxi cab driver — but noted the attacker worked with a company that was pro-Park51.

“We don’t know, we don’t know how he came to do what he did,” Geller said in a brief phone interview as she was driving last week. “But clearly, the Cordoba… Park 51 people are ginning up their fringe element. It’s very, very dangerous.”

“I don’t know why people put him up to it,” Geller said. “We know what side he’s on and it’s not ours,” she continued. …

Geller said that “outlets like [TPM] ginned up the idea… that the opposition was behind it.”

We asked if she was suggesting that those building the mosque were behind the attack on the taxi driver.

“I would never say that, I don’t know that,” Geller said. “He is affiliated with them, we do know that. He is pro-mosque, he works with [them],” she added.

“It’s obvious what the intent was. That’s how vile and debased this difference of opinion has gotten. People are not allowed to be insulted or offended,” Geller said.

We featured Geller’s illiterate, possibly drunken rant last Wednesday, in which she called the cabbie’s attacker “the would be Cordoba murderer,” and directed some special ugliness at yours truly:

How deranged is the left? The slasher of Muslims works for the Cordoba/Park 51. This is what is building an Islamic supremacist mosque on Ground Zero. The only reason we know who this human filth is and who he worked for because of the brave and brilliant cab driver who, despite being slashed multiple times, locked this savage in the back of his cab.

Can you imagine if the would be Cordoba murderer got away. They would be hanging us in the public square as we speak.

It’s no wonder the leftwing mainstream media is shushing up this story.And the Islamic supremacist, Hams funder CAIR blasted it in their alert. Their whiteash will be interesting tomorow. I wouldn’t be surprised if CAIR had a hand in it …………. the CAIR offices are right nextdoor to Imam Rauf’s and Daisy the Con’s offices n Riverside. How convenient.

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Make sure you cite this when the inevitable blame the opponents charges fall from the pens of the media.

Clearly this leftwing loon hoped to slash this poor man in pieces, get away, and have the opposition blamed for this heinous and vile crime. This is how low the mentally ill left will go.

Look at Little Green Sickballs: (hat tip Armaros):

These comments are still there since this morning when the stabbing story first broke and the dangerously deranged Chuck Johnson wanted to blame it on Mosque opposition.

Since then it was discovered that the perpetrator is a liberal who actually was working for Park51

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154 comments
1 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:16:21am

I would advise someone with direct ties to groups like Pamela has ties to not go around making a big deal out of the fact that the attacker was a small contributer to a foundation that also did work with the people who are developing the Cordoba project.

2 Kragar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:16:43am

Quite the cunning stunt...

3 Henchman Ghazi-808  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:16:54am

Jeebus. I'm ashamed I ever read her blog.

4 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:17:25am

Why doesn't she just accuse Rauf himself of doing the stabbing? It'd make as much sense.

5 jaunte  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:17:34am
"Set Up to Lynch Ground Zero Opposition..."

"They would be hanging us in the public square as we speak."

Geller seems to have lynching on her mind.

6 darthstar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:18:07am

I'm sure Wolf Blitzer will give her 10 minutes to explain this idiocy on his show this week.

7 darthstar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:19:32am

re: #5 jaunte

Geller seems to have lynching on her mind.

It's all part of reclaiming civil rights. Soon, slavery will be explained away as a master manipulation by blacks to make white people look bad.

8 Gus  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:19:44am

That's quite the conspiracy the Shrieking Harpy has concocted. Seems to fly in the face of the clear Islamaphobia expressed in Michael Enright's diary and the fact that he was transferred to the prison psych ward.

9 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:19:52am

Oy vay iz mir! What a lunatic.

10 Kragar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:22:59am

Classic "Look what you made us do" logic

11 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:23:44am

She just lies, blatantly and without remorse. Enright partnered with Intersections.org to finance his film school thesis, which followed his best friend's adventures in Afghanistan. That seems to be the extent of his involvement with this group that also happened, later, to support Park51. His diary reportedly contains tons of anti-muslim hatred. But damn the facts, Geller will keep repeating that he was "working for Park51," as long as there exist people remotely stupid enough to believe her.

12 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:25:27am

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

She just lies, blatantly and without remorse. Enright partnered with Intersections.org to finance his film school thesis, which followed his best friend's adventures in Afghanistan. That seems to be the extent of his involvement with this group that also happened, later, to support Park51. His diary reportedly contains tons of anti-muslim hatred. But damn the facts, Geller will keep repeating that he was "working for Park51," as long as there exist people remotely stupid enough to believe her.

People *want* to believe her, therefore they do.

13 Henchman Ghazi-808  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:28:54am

re: #12 oaktree

People *want* to believe her, therefore they do.

I think she wants to believe it so she'll jump to conclusions herself and just starts talking before she has a chance to think.

Or she's a compulsive liar.

14 researchok  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:30:05am

re: #12 oaktree

People *want* to believe her, therefore they do.

When times are tough, people want to believe there is a reason for their problems and their discomfort. Blaming or scapegoating others has long been the 'self help' therapy of choice for many people for a very long time.

They believe that if the 'other' is gone, neutralized or will only 'submit', all will be well and their lives will return to the familiarity they desire.

People will grasp on to anything to preserve a mirage.

Life goes on and we evolve. That is the human condition.

15 cliffster  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:31:22am

"dangerously deranged Chuck Johnson"? really?

Michael Enright, the 21-year-old aspiring filmmaker who accused of stabbing the cab driver, was transferred to the psychiatric ward late last week.

That's what dangerously deranged means.

16 Amory Blaine  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:32:56am

The MSM is just as culpable allowing this to fester.

17 Kragar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:34:13am

After Washington rally, Glenn Beck assails Obama's religion

During an interview on "Fox News Sunday," which was filmed after Saturday's rally, Beck claimed that Obama "is a guy who understands the world through liberation theology, which is oppressor-and-victim."

"People aren't recognizing his version of Christianity," Beck added.

Beck's attacks represent a continuing attempt to characterize Obama as a radical, an approach that has prompted anxiety among some Republicans, who worry that Beck's rhetoric could backfire. The White House has all but ignored his accusations, but some Democrats have pointed to the Fox News host to portray Republicans as extreme and out of touch.

Beck made the remarks in answer to a question about his previous accusation that Obama was a "racist" who has "a deep-seated hatred for white people." He contended that that statement "was not accurate" and that he had "miscast" Obama's religious beliefs as racism.

18 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:34:45am

re: #5 jaunte

Geller seems to have lynching on her mind.

"I'm so oppressed!! These people went so far as to stab a Muslim cabbie to make me look bad!"

19 Kragar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:36:33am

re: #15 cliffster

"dangerously deranged Chuck Johnson"? really?


That's what dangerously deranged means.

No, dangerously deranged means deviating from the party line. The poor boy in New York is just being punished for being forced by the evil Muslims into expressing his rage at their cruel treatment of him.

/

There are no coats but Burlington and Pam is their messenger.

20 avanti  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:36:37am

The distortion of facts is SOP on the far right. I just posted a page about the American Family associations headline that Obama is spending tax dollars to "rebuild Mosques" and demanding the faithful raise hell over it.
They talk about 6 million tax dollars, and how the ACLU would speak up if we were restoring churches. The only problem with that is that the mosque related restoration is a few 100K, we've been helping restore historical sites for many years, and we are spending far more to restore old churches. Either the guy did not follow his own link, or he's purposefully spinning BS.

21 darthstar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:37:28am

Slightly OT: I was playing around on openbook after someone linked the "mosk" search results there. I typed in "bible" and three of the first hits were people talking about the god-fest on Saturday, so I typed "Glenn Beck" to see what his fans had to say. One guy professed his love for Glenn (and Jesus) but said he was praying for Glenn Beck because Glenn's Mormonism was creeping into his show (which this guy also loves) and that it concerned him. Funny shit.

22 Henchman Ghazi-808  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:37:40am

re: #18 SanFranciscoZionist

"I'm so oppressed!! These people went so far as to stab a Muslim cabbie to make me look bad!"

She did mention something about the 'Ground Zero Mosque being a stab in the eye.' I didn't know it was literal.

23 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:37:45am

re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

No, dangerously deranged means deviating from the party line. The poor boy in New York is just being punished for being forced by the evil Muslims into expressing his rage at their cruel treatment of him.

/

There are no coats but Burlington and Pam is their messenger.

AFFORDABLE COATS FOR THE AFFORDABLE COAT GOD!!

(I don't recall who said that first, but it stuck in my mind...)

That, and the martyrdom of the holy St. London Fog.

24 darthstar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:38:14am

re: #17 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

After Washington rally, Glenn Beck assails Obama's religion

You just made my comment #21 appropriate to this thread...thanks.

25 tradewind  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:38:18am

Speaking of drunken hateful rants, looks like Alan Grayson's reign of terror in FL may be nearly up. Zogby has Webster (R) up 46-38.
[Link: www.electionprojection.com...]

26 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:38:27am

re: #21 darthstar

Slightly OT: I was playing around on openbook after someone linked the "mosk" search results there. I typed in "bible" and three of the first hits were people talking about the god-fest on Saturday, so I typed "Glenn Beck" to see what his fans had to say. One guy professed his love for Glenn (and Jesus) but said he was praying for Glenn Beck because Glenn's Mormonism was creeping into his show (which this guy also loves) and that it concerned him. Funny shit.

He's praying for Glenn because Glenn is a Mormon, or because Glenn's Mormonism is affecting his show?

27 Kragar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:38:42am

re: #23 SanFranciscoZionist

AFFORDABLE COATS FOR THE AFFORDABLE COAT GOD!!

(I don't recall who said that first, but it stuck in my mind...)

That, and the martyrdom of the holy St. London Fog.

I believe that was me, its a 40k riff.

28 darthstar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:39:14am

re: #26 SanFranciscoZionist

He's praying for Glenn because Glenn is a Mormon, or because Glenn's Mormonism is affecting his show?

Both, I think...it's hard to tell with these nuts.

29 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:39:31am

I read military history and that area is *full* of leaders (both political and military) that you wonder how they got themselves into some of the completely delusional mindsets that have happened in the history of the human race.

Then you read commentary on these areas and the full gamut of apologetics come into the fray how about this or that country was "pushed" into starting this or that war or triggering an incident. And the answer seems to repeatedly boil down to the following:
1. Bad decisions at home, let's forment something outside to point the blame elsewhere.
2. Unhappiness at second-class status, therefore we must expand in order to get our place in the sun, fulfill our divine destiny, and/or get out from under the demeaning influence of the other powers that are trying to keep us down.
3. Really bad communications where the diplomats talk past each other and fail to understand what the other side is saying, or willing to settle for. (And this almost always seems to also involve a lot of puffery and brinksmanship.)

I think if you scrape off the veneer of civility and logic that our cultures have attempted to add things real quickly devolve back to the tribal-level screaming fights where display and threat of violence is the real interaction. (Which also matches my comparison of most politics to 10-year-olds on an unsupervised playground.)*

*- Cue Peter Gabriel's "Games Without Frontiers" ;)

30 darthstar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:40:46am

re: #25 tradewind

Speaking of drunken hateful rants, looks like Alan Grayson's reign of terror in FL may be nearly up. Zogby has Webster (R) up 46-38.
[Link: www.electionprojection.com...]

Alan Grayson is one of the few honest-to-a-fault members of congress. Yes, he hurt your feelings by exposing the GOP plan for health-care for what it was, utter bullshit. But I think he'll win. Anti-incumbency isn't as hot as you pray it is.

31 cliffster  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:41:49am

Earl now major hurricane as it hits Caribbean

Earl? Hurricane Earl? Oh shit.. whatever you do, don't pull its finger.

32 tradewind  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:41:58am

re: #30 darthstar

But I think he'll win.

Well, I admire you for taking the lone stance. No one else does.

33 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:43:24am

re: #29 oaktree

(Which also matches my comparison of most politics to 10-year-olds on an unsupervised playground.)*

*- Cue Peter Gabriel's "Games Without Frontiers" ;)

The whole comment was worth updinging, but I'd have updinged it just for the reference to his greatest song.

34 jaunte  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:43:57am

re: #25 tradewind

Reign of terror? What did I miss?

35 tradewind  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:43:59am

re: #31 cliffster
Well, crap. Last time I looked it was projected to stay well off the coast.
Hope that holds.
I wouldn't even wish it on the NE.

36 tradewind  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:44:19am

re: #34 jaunte
Uhh,
The point./

37 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:44:31am

Current headline at the top of Geller's site:

EXTREMIST GROUND ZERO MOSQUE IMAM RAUF IS A RAT AND ROACH SLUMLORD

She takes an article in the New York Post about tenant complaints (which are NOT unusual at all - every landlord has complaints) and goes right into Nazi-like language:

Out from under the rock crawls rats and roaches .....

38 jaunte  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:44:43am

re: #36 tradewind

What did Grayson do?

39 darthstar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:45:09am

re: #38 jaunte

What did Grayson do?

He spoke the truth to the GOP.

40 darthstar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:46:38am

re: #37 Charles

She doesn't have a very broad vocabulary, that one.

41 cliffster  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:46:50am

It's all very weird, really. The economy is in the crapper, debt is completely out of control, and approval rates across the board are very low. Republicans don't really need any wild cards in this election. I'm assuming this Geller chick wants Republicans to win (really, I don't know, I never read her site). Why does she feel the need to keep beating the drum on this?

42 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:48:34am

re: #21 darthstar

Slightly OT: I was playing around on openbook after someone linked the "mosk" search results there. I typed in "bible" and three of the first hits were people talking about the god-fest on Saturday, so I typed "Glenn Beck" to see what his fans had to say. One guy professed his love for Glenn (and Jesus) but said he was praying for Glenn Beck because Glenn's Mormonism was creeping into his show (which this guy also loves) and that it concerned him. Funny shit.

This is what makes Glenn Beck's concern about Obama's religious beliefs even more ironic. I wish Brother Beck would tone it down a few decibles before people get an even weirder ideas about telling me what I really believe.

43 elbruce  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:49:04am

re: #25 tradewind

Speaking of drunken hateful rants, looks like Alan Grayson's reign of terror in FL may be nearly up. Zogby has Webster (R) up 46-38.
[Link: www.electionprojection.com...]

Alan Grayson's awesome.

And LOL @ Zogby.

In a recent New York Times Magazine cover story about animal rights, journalist Michael Pollan reported that 51 percent of Americans believe that "primates are entitled to the same rights as human children." It was a surprising finding, but one that Pollan simply attributed to a "recent Zogby Poll." When Pollan's article came out, you can only imagine the celebration at the Doris Day Animal League, a group dedicated to establishing legal rights for chimpanzees. The league's role in commissioning the survey went entirely unmentioned in the Times story.

...

Animal rights is a lefty cause, but one recent Zogby Poll conducted for the libertarian Cato Institute found that "two-thirds of likely voters support personal Social Security accounts" -- i.e., partial privatization. Another, conducted in 1997 for the anti-tort group New Yorkers for Civil Justice Reform, found that Empire State citizens "overwhelmingly believe that the cost of lawsuit awards is too high." And a Newsmax.com/Zogby International Poll, conducted for the right-wing Newsmax Web site, found in late 1999 that two-thirds of Americans wanted Congress to consider a second impeachment proceeding against then-President Clinton. It helped that the poll primed respondents with speculative allegations that the president traded nuclear technology to the Chinese in exchange for campaign cash.

If you want Zogby to tell you that something is so, Zogby will be glad to take your money and produce a poll saying that it's so. In addition to all of that, Zogby's methodology for these things is unique to Zogby, and has no bearing on reputable polling methods whatsoever.

44 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:49:33am

re: #37 Charles

Current headline at the top of Geller's site:

EXTREMIST GROUND ZERO MOSQUE IMAM RAUF IS A RAT AND ROACH SLUMLORD

She takes an article in the New York Post about tenant complaints (which are NOT unusual at all - every landlord has complaints) and goes right into Nazi-like language:

I've asked this question before, and I'm not going to get an honest answer from Pam, but, assuming that Rauf is a complete schmuck of the first water, how does this make a difference?

The only vaguely rational argument one can make against the community center project is that having a Muslim building put up so close to Ground Zero upsets some people. Those people will, presumably, be upset even if the man in charge of this project is actually the reincarnation of Mother Teresa.

So, let's say Rauf is a slumlord. So? Pam has never given a moment's thought to any other slumlord in NYC.

45 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:49:38am

re: #37 Charles
"Out from under the rock crawls rats and roaches ..."

...and the Empire state building has a bedbug problem. Oh my gosh its a conspiracy!!

46 Kragar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:50:19am

re: #37 Charles

Current headline at the top of Geller's site:

EXTREMIST GROUND ZERO MOSQUE IMAM RAUF IS A RAT AND ROACH SLUMLORD

She takes an article in the New York Post about tenant complaints (which are NOT unusual at all - every landlord has complaints) and goes right into Nazi-like language:

But I thought she would be comfortable with making Muslims live in ghettos.

47 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:50:41am

re: #41 cliffster

It's all very weird, really. The economy is in the crapper, debt is completely out of control, and approval rates across the board are very low. Republicans don't really need any wild cards in this election. I'm assuming this Geller chick wants Republicans to win (really, I don't know, I never read her site). Why does she feel the need to keep beating the drum on this?

First, I don't think Pam cares who wins, in fact, it's more fun if the Democrats win, because she can whip up the frenzy higher.

Second, it's all about Pam's empire. She is in no way a Republican operative, she's an anti-jihad-industry-executive.

48 cliffster  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:51:00am
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it,
no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own
reason and your own common sense."

-Buddha (536 B.C.-483 B.C.)

49 jaunte  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:51:29am

re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist

As in Glenn Beck's case, follow the gold.

50 aurelius  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:51:30am

re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist

and business is booming.

51 tradewind  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:51:30am

re: #30 darthstar
When even fellow democrat Anthony Weiner calls him ' one fry short of a happy meal ', it's pretty much over.
[Link: www.politico.com...]

52 darthstar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:51:59am

re: #43 elbruce

I used to participate in Zogby polls. They're all online and you get email invites to participate. Some of the polls read like a Dianetics questionnaire - questions repeated and rephrased to get a different result...

53 tradewind  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:52:01am

re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist
You nailed it.

54 aurelius  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:52:22am

re: #48 cliffster

-Buddha (536 B.C.-483 B.C.)

time to burn those quantum mechanics books! ;)

55 cliffster  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:52:38am

re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist

First, I don't think Pam cares who wins, in fact, it's more fun if the Democrats win, because she can whip up the frenzy higher.

Second, it's all about Pam's empire. She is in no way a Republican operative, she's an anti-jihad-industry-executive.

well, there you go. I really don't know anything about her. Probably good insight on your part, though, thanks.

56 darthstar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:52:50am

re: #51 tradewind

When even fellow democrat Anthony Weiner calls him ' one fry short of a happy meal ', it's pretty much over.
[Link: www.politico.com...]

Okay, so he'll lose the drive-thru diner vote.

57 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:52:59am

re: #26 SanFranciscoZionist

He's praying for Glenn because Glenn is a Mormon, or because Glenn's Mormonism is affecting his show?

Lots of people pray for our [mormon] poor hellbound souls. Its a pretty common meme among evangelicals that cannot square our belief in Jesus Christ with their own doctrines. They have to then say we worship a false Jesus or some such thing (the notion comes from some standard anti-mormon literature) and pray for our salvation.

I've gotten over the stigma and just accept their prayers as well intended.

58 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:53:13am

re: #46 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But I thought she would be comfortable with making Muslims live in ghettos.

And I would have assumed she'd be fine with the poor living in whatever circumstances the property owner chooses to keep his property. At least we can be sure these folks don't have granite countertops. Wait, that was Malkin.

59 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:53:29am

re: #34 jaunte

Reign of terror? What did I miss?

He doesn't like republicans and he hurts their wittle feewings..........

60 tradewind  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:53:48am

re: #56 darthstar
LOL, good one.

61 simoom  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:54:17am

I flipped past Hannitiy's FNC show a couple days back and someone on his "Great American Panel" was pushing something along these lines. Basically, how embarrassing it was for the Media and the Left that they covered the story as an example of growing anti-Muslim sentiment when it turned out the perp was a pro-Mosque Uber-Liberal.

At the time I kind of marveled at how such a stupid, weakly-sourced narrative was still kicking, and totally resistant to being debunked by the latest facts being reported.

62 tradewind  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:54:34am

re: #59 wozzablog
It's more a rage syndrome thing.
Can't filter.

63 elbruce  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:54:45am

re: #51 tradewind

When even fellow democrat Anthony Weiner calls him ' one fry short of a happy meal ', it's pretty much over.
[Link: www.politico.com...]

Yes, I'm sure you hang on Wiener's every pronouncement as if it were the finest prophecy... //

Dems disagree with each other all the time. Some of the more colorful ones use more colorful language when they do so. It doesn't mean you've got an opening; unlike the right, the left doesn't need to march in lockstep to win.

64 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:54:46am

re: #50 aurelius

and business is booming.

As I've said, I figure I could make a fortune off all of this, if I didn't mind the going to hell part. Or the parents disowning me part. Or, you know, the feeling too icky to live part.

65 jaunte  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:54:53am

re: #59 wozzablog

I can see he's used some extra-spicy rhetoric, but calling it a reign of terror is just repeating the same move.

66 reine.de.tout  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:55:33am

re: #57 DaddyG

Lots of people pray for our [mormon] poor hellbound souls. Its a pretty common meme among evangelicals that cannot square our belief in Jesus Christ with their own doctrines. They have to then say we worship a false Jesus or some such thing (the notion comes from some standard anti-mormon literature) and pray for our salvation.

I've gotten over the stigma and just accept their prayers as well intended.

People don't even bother praying for icky Catholics. We're not Christian and unworthy of prayers. LOL. I just have to laugh.

67 Gus  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:56:04am

re: #37 Charles

Current headline at the top of Geller's site:

EXTREMIST GROUND ZERO MOSQUE IMAM RAUF IS A RAT AND ROACH SLUMLORD

She takes an article in the New York Post about tenant complaints (which are NOT unusual at all - every landlord has complaints) and goes right into Nazi-like language:

Now that would be a first. Right wingers being concerned about tenant rights. All of this of course is based on yet another New York Post article. What does Rauf's apartment buildings have to do with Cordoba House? Are they going to apply a moral standard like this for all future developers in Manhattan? If they did they'd find themselves unable to build anything.

68 Kragar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:56:36am

re: #66 reine.de.tout

People don't even bother praying for icky Catholics. We're not Christian and unworthy of prayers. LOL. I just have to laugh.

Its a confusing form of Christianity that people don't recognize - Glenn

69 elbruce  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:56:47am

re: #57 DaddyG

Lots of people pray for our [mormon] poor hellbound souls.

It's fascinating when people use prayer as a rhetorical weapon. One would think that God might disapprove of being dragged into what basically amounts to a "mean girls" insult.

70 darthstar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:56:49am

re: #63 elbruce

Also, Weiner actually LIKES Grayson because, like himself, he isn't afraid to speak openly and honestly.

71 tradewind  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:57:06am

re: #52 darthstar
You mean push polling?
Old as the hills.
But Zogby also uses telephone polling.

72 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:57:40am

re: #43 elbruce

Alan Grayson's awesome.

And LOL @ Zogby.

If you want Zogby to tell you that something is so, Zogby will be glad to take your money and produce a poll saying that it's so. In addition to all of that, Zogby's methodology for these things is unique to Zogby, and has no bearing on reputable polling methods whatsoever.

I took a psychology course back in college that included a section that discussed polling (in general) and also how one could wreck a poll simply by the way you worded the questions. Of course, the course was interested in the concept of *effective* polling, not in generating numbers that looked a certain way.

Between that and a few simple statistics courses I simply will not take a poll's "X% of people believe in Y" statement for granted without first taking a good look at the poll in more details concerning the wording of their questions, the demographics of their responders, and the methodology of the poll itself.

Which means for the most part I generally ignore polls since I just don't have that much time in a day...

73 dragonfire1981  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:58:27am

“But clearly, the Cordoba… Park 51 people are ginning up their fringe element. It’s very, very dangerous.”

Pot meet kettle.

74 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:58:30am

re: #44 SanFranciscoZionist

It could be an issue if the project gets gov't funding/financing. Depending on the program and financing sought (and it appears that Liberty bonds may be utilized), ability to repay and fulfill obligations could be an issue in getting the financing from those sources.

75 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:58:53am

re: #17 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Holy projection, Batman!

76 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:58:55am

re: #66 reine.de.tout

People don't even bother praying for icky Catholics. We're not Christian and unworthy of prayers. LOL. I just have to laugh.


Lets see -

We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds (æons), Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father...

Yeah, I'd guess Catholics are pretty Christian.

77 darthstar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:59:08am

re: #66 reine.de.tout

People don't even bother praying for icky Catholics. We're not Christian and unworthy of prayers. LOL. I just have to laugh.

I went to a Baptist high school for the 9th grade (after Catholic elementary school). I was told by students (and TEACHERS) that I was going to burn in hell and that I was an idol-worshipper. I finally feigned getting saved half way through the year so they'd leave me the fuck alone...even dropped on my knees before the congregation and begged for god's forgiveness...it was kind of fun, like improvisational theatre.

78 reine.de.tout  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:59:50am

re: #76 DaddyG

Lets see -

Yeah, I'd guess Catholics are pretty Christian.

Well, I think so.
But you know . . . there's the Virgin Mary and all . . .

79 tradewind  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:59:56am

re: #63 elbruce

unlike the right, the left doesn't need to march in lockstep to win.


Bob Casey and Joe Lieberman might disagree.

80 tradewind  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:00:44am

re: #74 lawhawk
If he merely hasn't paid some taxes, there's no problem. Qualifies him for a cabinet post.

81 tradewind  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:01:31am

re: #73 dragonfire1981
Well, that explains the ' ginning up ' remark.
:)

82 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:02:32am

re: #69 elbruce

It's fascinating when people use prayer as a rhetorical weapon. One would think that God might disapprove of being dragged into what basically amounts to a "mean girls" insult.


...yup. The LDS Church has grown away from such rhetoric that was common in the 19th century. You will find very little of it from official sources. Glenn Becks comments are frankly quite embarassing to me. If other churches want to preach racial superiority or devisiveness in any way they will reveal themselves for what they are- we don't need to go making accusations.

83 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:02:43am

Michelle Bachman hopes to substitute her reality for our own...

CBS News, which hired company AirPhotosLive.com to conduct an estimate, put the tally at around 87,000. One park service official told NBC News that the number was somewhere around 300,000. (The National Park Service no longer issues official crowd estimates after it was pilloried for allegedly miscalculating attendance at the 1995 Million Man March.)

Beck himself told the crowd that he’d seen estimates that “between 300,000 and 500,000” people showed up. Sarah Palin told POLITICO’s Jonathan Martin that she was disappointed by an Associated Press description of the “tens of thousands” of ralliers, adding that she believed turnout to have been over 100,000.

And, at a rally piggybacking off of the Restoring Honor event, Minnesota congresswoman and Tea Party darling Rep. Michele Bachmann challenged anyone who calculated Beck’s audience at anything less than seven digits. “We're not going let anyone get away with saying there were less than a million here today because we were witnesses," Bachmann said.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. But, regardless of the precise number, the crowd stretching from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial to beyond the World War II Memorial was most certainly a sobering sight for Democrats.

I reject her reality (substituted and all), and prefer our own.

84 Stanghazi  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:04:04am

re: #77 darthstar

I went to a Baptist high school for the 9th grade (after Catholic elementary school). I was told by students (and TEACHERS) that I was going to burn in hell and that I was an idol-worshipper. I finally feigned getting saved half way through the year so they'd leave me the fuck alone...even dropped on my knees before the congregation and begged for god's forgiveness...it was kind of fun, like improvisational theatre.

lol

85 elbruce  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:06:06am
“We're not going let anyone get away with saying there were less than a million here today because we were witnesses," Bachmann said.

What the hell is she going to do about it?

86 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:07:04am

re: #77 darthstar

I went to a Baptist high school for the 9th grade (after Catholic elementary school). I was told by students (and TEACHERS) that I was going to burn in hell and that I was an idol-worshipper. I finally feigned getting saved half way through the year so they'd leave me the fuck alone...even dropped on my knees before the congregation and begged for god's forgiveness...it was kind of fun, like improvisational theatre.

I bet you were good with the interpretive speaking in tongues.

87 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:07:34am

re: #77 darthstar

I went to a Baptist high school for the 9th grade (after Catholic elementary school). I was told by students (and TEACHERS) that I was going to burn in hell and that I was an idol-worshipper. I finally feigned getting saved half way through the year so they'd leave me the fuck alone...even dropped on my knees before the congregation and begged for god's forgiveness...it was kind of fun, like improvisational theatre.


We had a family from our LDS ward in Tennessee that sent their kids to the Christian™ church school in the neighborhood. They were terribly upset when the school said they could not enroll their kids unless they signed a statement disavowing their belief in the Book of Mormon and other LDS doctrine. I myself was thinking, why send them to a school where the teachings are so obvioulsy different from your own? ...but hey I'm subjecting my kids to the evil public schools so what do I know.

88 Kragar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:07:38am

re: #85 elbruce

What the hell is she going to do about it?

Are you going to deny the rights of millions of invisible, intangible American citizens?

89 darthstar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:08:12am

re: #85 elbruce

What the hell is she going to do about it?

The funniest part was that she had to set up a small stage and hold her own little 'post-rally' because even Glenn Beck didn't trust her to stay on message enough to have her be a part of the official god-fest.

90 darthstar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:08:41am

re: #86 Walter L. Newton

I bet you were good with the interpretive speaking in tongues.

Well, the girls did like me for that particular skill, I will say.

91 Kragar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:09:30am

re: #89 darthstar

The funniest part was that she had to set up a small stage and hold her own little 'post-rally' because even Glenn Beck didn't trust her to stay on message enough to have her be a part of the official god-fest.

There was a handler offstage ready to jangle a set of keys if she got distracted by something shiny in the crowd.

92 reine.de.tout  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:09:31am

Geller, with my bolding:

These comments are still there since this morning when the stabbing story first broke and the dangerously deranged Chuck Johnson wanted to blame it on Mosque opposition.

A review:
Immediately after 9/11, there was some anti-Muslim sentiment expressed, but in various locations, Muslims also reported a show of support from various folks in their communities. I know it happened here, and I've seen others write of it.

Ten years later - anti-Muslim, anti-Islam hatred and related incidents are on the rise, possibly as high as its ever been.

What's happened in the interim?

Geller's and Spencer's increasing hatred and idiocy, and paranoia, despite the fact that there has NOT been another incident to rival 9/11, and the few incidents there have been have been must be placed in the 'massive fail' category. Over-the-top "Christianity is all" TeaParties.

And it's Charles Johnson that's "deranged"?
And none of the above has anything to do with the "Mosque" opposition, which I suspect is more "Muslim" opposition than mosque opposition.

She's living on another planet.

93 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:09:55am

re: #88 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Are you going to deny the rights of millions of invisible, intangible American citizens?

Intangible Americans is my new favorite oppressed minority group.

94 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:10:06am

re: #85 elbruce

What the hell is she going to do about it?


Getting her double vision checked would be a good start.

95 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:10:11am

re: #90 darthstar

Well, the girls did like me for that particular skill, I will say.

I said "speaking" not "tweaking"

96 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:10:13am

re: #90 darthstar

Chaim, is that you?

97 tradewind  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:11:24am

re: #87 DaddyG
In my large city, the two academically superior schools for elementary aged boys and high school girls, respectively, happen to be run by the Presbyterian and Episcopal churches. A substantial number of professionals who are also Muslims send their children to both schools, even though they know the children will have chapel daily.
Both schools, btw, separate physical sciences from any religious doctrine.
Sometimes a good education is just a good education, worth putting up with inconveniences.

98 Kragar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:11:25am

re: #94 DaddyG

Getting her double vision checked would be a good start.

I know Gully Dwarves who could provide a more accurate count.

/someone will get that and it is funny dammit

99 jaunte  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:11:32am

re: #93 negativ

Intangible Americans is my new favorite oppressed minority group.

No li me tangerines.

100 darthstar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:12:17am

re: #96 lawhawk

I didn't know Gene Simmons real name was Chaim Witz...that would have been a kick-ass stage name. But he's a fuckin' wing-nut, so no, I'm not him.

101 Gus  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:13:02am

re: #85 elbruce

What the hell is she going to do about it?

She, they, need to get over it. Crowd figures have always been a source of controversy for decades now and well known to many on the left. As far as I'm concerned 3 people showed up for Restoring Honor: Moe, Curly and Larry.

102 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:13:45am

re: #83 lawhawk

I'm really confused by all the assertions-- including your own, last thread-- that the truth lies somewhere between the CBS and the figures made up by Beck.

Can you explain your reasoning?

103 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:13:53am

re: #42 DaddyG

This is what makes Glenn Beck's concern about Obama's religious beliefs even more ironic. I wish Brother Beck would tone it down a few decibles before people get an even weirder ideas about telling me what I really believe.

By the looks of it, you're not the only one who has a problem with Beck ;)

(oh, if only that could have happened for real...)

104 SpaceJesus  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:14:19am

can i get pam to write a blog about my landlord too

105 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:14:21am

re: #98 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I know Gully Dwarves who could provide a more accurate count.

/someone will get that and it is funny dammit

Haven't heard of them in a very long time... LOL

106 deranged cat  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:14:48am

that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. making that argument in a class would get you laughed out of the room..

107 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:14:51am

re: #98 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I know Gully Dwarves who could provide a more accurate count.

/someone will get that and it is funny dammit

That's racist.

Well, pretty much all D&D is racist.

108 Gus  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:14:53am

re: #104 SpaceJesus

can i get pam to write a blog about my landlord too

Anti-Jihadist wingnuts for rent control!!11ty

109 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:15:25am

re: #101 Gus 802

She, they, need to get over it. Crowd figures have always been a source of controversy for decades now and well known to many on the left. As far as I'm concerned 3 people showed up for Restoring Honor: Moe, Curly and Larry.

its too late now, but showing up at the Restoring Honor rally in t-shirts that said ACORN and passing out voter registration applications would have been a hoot!

110 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:15:52am

re: #108 Gus 802

Dripping faucets are a Wahabbist plot!

111 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:16:28am

re: #77 darthstar

I went to a Baptist high school for the 9th grade (after Catholic elementary school). I was told by students (and TEACHERS) that I was going to burn in hell and that I was an idol-worshipper. I finally feigned getting saved half way through the year so they'd leave me the fuck alone...even dropped on my knees before the congregation and begged for god's forgiveness...it was kind of fun, like improvisational theatre.

In middle and high school my best friend's family attended the Overlake Christian mega church in Redmond. The pastor was Bob Moorehead, who was later lost his job over accusations that he fondled the grown men who came to see him for adult baptisms and marriage counseling, which came to light after he got arrested for masturbating in public in Florida.

The peer pressure to come on down and be saved was immense, but I caught a very creepy vibe off that guy even then, from high up in the balcony, and instead practiced how to be a statue.

112 Henchman 25  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:17:12am

I swear, Geller's going make me have an aneurysm out of sheer stupidity.

113 darthstar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:18:00am

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

I like to tell Baptists I meet that their flavor of Christianity cured me of my faith in god.

114 tradewind  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:18:40am

re: #108 Gus 802
I'm sure we'll see a story soon re some republican or conservative landlord's deplorable rental practices. Every roach dropping will be fair game./

115 Kragar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:19:26am

re: #107 Obdicut

That's racist.

Well, pretty much all D&D is racist.

PCRFETOH (Player Character Races for Ethical Treatment of Humanoids) never really caught on.

116 jaunte  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:19:40am

re: #112 SteelPH

“Luke: What's in there?
Yoda: Only what you take with you.
Pam: Rats! Roaches!"

117 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:19:51am

CNN has a summary of Beck's rally, seems fair and balanced, why are they giving this nut any positive coverage?

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

118 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:21:54am

re: #102 Obdicut

Assume that there are people in the tree cover surrounding the reflecting pool. You can't see how many people are there with those photos taken from above, but there are undoubtedly people there. I don't think the numbers are anywhere near what Beck says them to be (let alone Bachmann's nonsense), but I think they may be higher than the high end of the CBS figure.

FWIW, there are other measures to indicate crowds in places like DC - number of metro trips above average, etc. I haven't seen those figures posted anywhere...

119 tradewind  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:22:25am

re: #117 Walter L. Newton
Oh please. It's so obvious that they're positioning themselves /currying favor with their soon-to-be overlords in anticipation of November.//

120 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:22:46am

re: #107 Obdicut

You were a halfling in a campaign, weren't you... /

121 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:24:13am

re: #119 tradewind

Oh please. It's so obvious that they're positioning themselves /currying favor with their soon-to-be overlords in anticipation of November.//

I don't think they would do that... do you?

122 elbruce  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:25:10am

re: #117 Walter L. Newton

CNN has a summary of Beck's rally, seems fair and balanced, why are they giving this nut any positive coverage?

It doesn't look particularly positive, just informative. They seem to have described it accurately. This part looks creepy:

Beck has also begun organizing top conservative religious leaders -- mostly evangelicals -- into a fledgling group called the Black Robed Regiment.

Yoiks!

123 tradewind  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:26:48am

O/T, but it was a link from the CNN page and it just makes me sad. You would think they'd have learned and suffered enough.
[Link: www.ivillage.com...]

124 What, me worry?  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:27:32am

re: #107 Obdicut

That's racist.

Well, pretty much all D&D is racist.

Sexist, yes. Racist? Really?

125 Kragar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:27:41am

re: #120 lawhawk

You were a halfling in a campaign, weren't you... /

Never make fun of a halfling warrior with a helmet mounted cleaver.

126 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:27:42am

re: #122 elbruce

It doesn't look particularly positive, just informative. They seem to have described it accurately. This part looks creepy:

Yoiks!

Boo...

127 tradewind  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:27:45am

re: #121 Walter L. Newton
Next time I will bold my sarc tags.
:)

128 darthstar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:27:50am

re: #117 Walter L. Newton

Well, to his credit, Beck does admit that he doesn't think he'd be electable if he ran for President. So there is a brain-cell or two in there that hasn't turned to fungus.

129 Jeff In Ohio  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:28:15am

re: #17 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The host of Morning Edition read that Beck statement on NPR this morning and after a pregnant pause, stated "That made no sense at all." I breathed a sigh of relief there were other humans about.

130 funky chicken  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:29:35am

She's insane, as is the guy who stabbed that poor cabbie. I do really hope her kids are old enough to have moved out by now, or that her ex can use all of these taped drunken rants to get a judge to award him custody.

131 Kragar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:29:51am

re: #124 marjoriemoon

Sexist, yes. Racist? Really?

Is that a camp? Looks like Orcs, a few warriors and some women and children.

OK, prepare to attack.

132 tradewind  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:30:26am

re: #128 darthstar
Why would he take the pay cut?
In all seriousness, I'm amazed that anyone who has a family and/or a life today would subject themselves and their loved ones to the proctological exam that comprises today's presidential run.

133 darthstar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:30:53am

re: #129 Jeff In Ohio

The host of Morning Edition read that Beck statement on NPR this morning and after a pregnant pause, stated "That made no sense at all." I breathed a sigh of relief there were other humans about.

Hilarious.

134 tradewind  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:31:56am

re: #129 Jeff In Ohio
"You can't fool me... I listen to public radio".
.....Squidward.

135 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:32:06am

re: #124 marjoriemoon

Sexist, yes. Racist? Really?

Those frakkin elves think they are better than anyone else. If you ask me the inbreeding has made them all soft and pale. /

136 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:35:06am

re: #120 lawhawk

You were a halfling in a campaign, weren't you... /

I was an underground member of the Droid Liberation Front in a Star Wars campaign.

Which also led to the satire story "The Droids Who Say 'Ni'" going around the group as a round-robin text file.

137 Kragar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:35:12am

re: #135 DaddyG

Those frakkin elves think they are better than anyone else. If you ask me the inbreeding has made them all soft and pale. /

Bunch of pointy eared tree hugging gits. Can't hold their ale and couldn't navigate the deep roads if you gave them a bloody map.

138 What, me worry?  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:35:19am

re: #92 reine.de.tout

Geller, with my bolding:

A review:
Immediately after 9/11, there was some anti-Muslim sentiment expressed, but in various locations, Muslims also reported a show of support from various folks in their communities. I know it happened here, and I've seen others write of it.

Ten years later - anti-Muslim, anti-Islam hatred and related incidents are on the rise, possibly as high as its ever been.

What's happened in the interim?

Geller's and Spencer's increasing hatred and idiocy, and paranoia, despite the fact that there has NOT been another incident to rival 9/11, and the few incidents there have been have been must be placed in the 'massive fail' category. Over-the-top "Christianity is all" TeaParties.

And it's Charles Johnson that's "deranged"?
And none of the above has anything to do with the "Mosque" opposition, which I suspect is more "Muslim" opposition than mosque opposition.

She's living on another planet.

Well it's all Muslim opposition because Manhattan has always had mosques, one at close as 4 blocks from the WTC.

And there's a mosque in the Pentagon.

They've given up on the "support moderate Muslims" meme, if they even thought there were any. I don't believe they ever believed that really.

139 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:35:19am

re: #128 darthstar

Well, to his credit, Beck does admit that he doesn't think he'd be electable if he ran for President. So there is a brain-cell or two in there that hasn't turned to fungus.

I was watching Beck on the rerun Fox Sunday, this morning, about 12:30 am, at the gym, on the treadmill. When I saw him there, I turned to CNN and then MSNBC, they were all running Katrina stuff, nothing new there, so I turned back to Fox.

This was the first time that I even saw more than a few minutes of Beck in years (i rarely bother with the videos posted here, they stream to slow on DSL, especially when 4 or 5 people in this house are all on the network at the same time), well, anyway, he's certifiably nuts, take my word for it. I use to listen to him religiously when he was just on a couple of hundred radio stations.

No, this guy snapped (or had a relapse) sometime recently, I suspect since he started to go round the bend on CNN. He's a functional nut, but he's mentally unstable.

140 Jeff In Ohio  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:37:33am

re: #134 tradewind

What's a squidward?

141 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:38:15am

re: #124 marjoriemoon

Sexist, yes. Racist? Really?

Not seriously. I'm just pointing out there are various races in D&D. Real, actual, different races.

It was funny, trust me.

142 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:39:12am

re: #129 Jeff In Ohio

On either Saturday afternoon or Sunday, BBC World was doing a bit about the Restoring Honor rally, and they played a sound bite featuring some guy who had a list of imaginary grievances a mile long. It was obvious the BBC presenter was trying his best to stifle a case of the giggles.

The person in the sound bite was raving that the government has taken everyone's rights away; "they're all gone". He complained that the gov' now tells us what to eat, what to drink, what kind of car to drive, and a long list of other things. Oh, and also they're taking away all our guns.

I tried but couldn't find the audio clip in question. Sadness.

143 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:40:08am

re: #124 marjoriemoon

Sexist, yes. Racist? Really?

I thought it was hard to get sexist towards the dwarves since even they had trouble telling the two genders apart*

*- Well, that's more Prattchet than D&D, but you can still play with the concept.

144 Kragar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:41:33am

re: #143 oaktree

I thought it was hard to get sexist towards the dwarves since even they had trouble telling the two genders apart*

*- Well, that's more Prattchet than D&D, but you can still play with the concept.

NO, WE DONT!

Dwarven Thieves were the bomb.

145 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:41:59am

re: #139 Walter L. Newton

re: #142 negativ

Addiction to drama? Is there a scientific term for that?

146 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:42:20am

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

But damn the facts, Geller will keep repeating that he was "working for Park51," as long as there exist people remotely stupid enough to believe her.

And there are plenty of those to go around with this controversy.

147 What, me worry?  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:42:21am

re: #141 Obdicut

Not seriously. I'm just pointing out there are various races in D&D. Real, actual, different races.

It was funny, trust me.

hehe Well I got the funny, but I wasn't sure. I mean sexist, yea... Wow... all the women are a 36DD, 25" waist, about 90 lbs.

Just like in real life.

That's why I always liked to play dwarves on EQ. The women were short, fat and had beards. My way of thumbing my 2h scimitar at The Man.

148 What, me worry?  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:42:48am

re: #143 oaktree

I thought it was hard to get sexist towards the dwarves since even they had trouble telling the two genders apart*

*- Well, that's more Prattchet than D&D, but you can still play with the concept.

Right on, brother (or sister).

149 Kragar  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:46:34am

re: #147 marjoriemoon

hehe Well I got the funny, but I wasn't sure. I mean sexist, yea... Wow... all the women are a 36DD, 25" waist, about 90 lbs.

Just like in real life.

That's why I always liked to play dwarves on EQ. The women were short, fat and had beards. My way of thumbing my 2h scimitar at The Man.

And then there is the Kragar rule;
"Dude, why do you keep playing chicks in WoW?"
"Because if I'm going to stare at the screen for 4 hours, its going to at least have a cute ass in the middle of it."

150 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 11:54:52am

re: #145 DaddyG

re: #142 negativ

Addiction to drama? Is there a scientific term for that?

Histrionic personality disorder, maybe?

Personality disorder characterized by at least 3 of the following:

(a) self-dramatization, theatricality, exaggerated expression of emotions;
(b) suggestibility, easily influenced by others or by circumstances;
(c) shallow and labile affectivity;
(d) continual seeking for excitement, appreciation by others, and activities in which the patient is the centre of attention;
(e) inappropriate seductiveness in appearance or behaviour;
(f) over-concern with physical attractiveness.

Associated features may include egocentricity, self-indulgence, continuous longing for appreciation, feelings that are easily hurt, and persistent manipulative behaviour to achieve own needs.

Includes:
* hysterical and psychoinfantile personality (disorder)

Or, it could just be a case of Wingnut Syndrome, which apparently isn't in the DSM-IV.

151 webevintage  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 12:38:20pm

re: #66 reine.de.tout

People don't even bother praying for icky Catholics. We're not Christian and unworthy of prayers. LOL. I just have to laugh.

I guess that is why Beck can say this about Obama:
"People aren't recognizing his version of Christianity," Beck added.

Because if you are Catholic you should have no problem recognizing the social justice version of Christianity.

152 ClaudeMonet  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:14:30pm

re: #57 DaddyG

Lots of people pray for our [mormon] poor hellbound souls. Its a pretty common meme among evangelicals that cannot square our belief in Jesus Christ with their own doctrines. They have to then say we worship a false Jesus or some such thing (the notion comes from some standard anti-mormon literature) and pray for our salvation.

I've gotten over the stigma and just accept their prayers as well intended.

When someone says something along the lines of, "I'll pray for you", I don't take exception. I thank them for their concern and move on. I know that at worst it's a small waste of time for them and costs me nothing. And if they happen to have a private line to God/Jesus/Allah/Aqua Buddha/The Flying Spaghetti Monster and he/she/it decides to lighten my load, fine.

153 ClaudeMonet  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:17:53pm

re: #85 elbruce

What the hell is she going to do about it?

Draw sharper eyebrows on.

154 ClaudeMonet  Mon, Aug 30, 2010 10:21:22pm

re: #103 publicityStunted

By the looks of it, you're not the only one who has a problem with Beck ;)

(oh, if only that could have happened for real...)

And Beck lands sphincter-first on top of the Washington Monument, after which Abe and George give each other high-fives.


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