1 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 6:50:04pm

Prickly pears?

Is that a metaphor for Lizards?

2 Randall Gross  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 6:50:37pm

We knew you had some pods containing aliens around…

3 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 6:51:53pm

re: #2 Thanos

We knew you had some pods containing aliens around…

///All right Mr. McCain, what did the “pod” the version of you who claimed he wasn’t a Maverick emerged from look like?

4 jaunte  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 6:56:29pm

Now I wish I had some radishes.

5 Rishonah  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 6:57:50pm

Are those really prickly pears? I always wondered what they looked like.

6 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 6:58:13pm

re: #3 jamesfirecat

///All right Mr. McCain, what did the “pod” the version of you who claimed he wasn’t a Maverick emerged from look like?

No, that’s a Prickly Pear Cactus. McCain would know of it, since it grows in the desert. McCain recently shoved one of its fruits down JD Hayworth’s throat, figuratively speaking. And aren’t you glad he morphed like he did? Whatever the cost of his veering right, it spared Arizona being represented by a teabagger.

7 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 6:58:39pm

Not quite ripe yet.

8 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:00:43pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

No, that’s a Prickly Pear Cactus. McCain would know of it, since it grows in the desert. McCain recently shoved one of its fruits down JD Hayworth’s throat, figuratively speaking. And aren’t you glad he morphed like he did? Whatever the cost of his veering right, it spared Arizona being represented by a teabagger.

I’ll respect McCain more if he starts to act like a reasonable and rational man again now that he no longer has captain crazy leaning over his shoudler from the right.

He could start by helping break the filibuster on Obama’s attempt to help small businesses.

9 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:04:29pm

Comedy entertainment via pink moonbats

Here’s what’s going on behind the scenes in the “peace negotiations” between Israeli and Palestinian officials, announced by Secretary Clinton for September 1st, 2010.

10 Jimmah  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:04:50pm

A Rush and a Pushback and the Land is Ours

11 Political Atheist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:05:02pm

What a nice cactus. We have succulents around here too, though I’m partial to the Agave. *wink*

12 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:05:32pm

re: #8 jamesfirecat

I’ll respect McCain more if he starts to act like a reasonable and rational man again now that he no longer has captain crazy leaning over his shoudler from the right.

He could start by helping break the filibuster on Obama’s attempt to help small businesses.

Why? i don’t support it either. Ever since the Shoreside Bank mini-scandal here in Chicago, I’ve been very skeptical of Obama’s community lending. Nor do i want to add more bad government debt. It’s a bad idea, and Obama’s promises on it are just unicorn farts as far as I’m concerned.

13 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:05:57pm

Fortunately, I took “Math for Poets 101” in college, so I can appreciate the natural Fibonacci numbers inherent in a photo like this! You betcha!

14 Ericus58  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:06:09pm

Great pic, Charles!
Thanks for one of your picture threads!

15 TedStriker  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:06:26pm

Here’s some more Sinfest for ya:

Image: 2010-08-16.gif

16 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:07:26pm

re: #10 Jimmah

A Rush and a Pushback and the Land is Ours

Did not watch. The lead singer’s voice always gives me a contact depression.

17 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:08:20pm

re: #12 Dark_Falcon

Why? i don’t support it either. Ever since the Shoreside Bank mini-scandal here in Chicago, I’ve been very skeptical of Obama’s community lending. Nor do i want to add more bad government debt. It’s a bad idea, and Obama’s promises on it are just unicorn farts as far as I’m concerned.

How do you support helping Small Businesses then?

18 wee fury  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:09:41pm

The photo is thought provoking …

19 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:10:39pm

re: #13 Cato the Elder

Fortunately, I took “Math for Poets 101” in college, so I can appreciate the natural Fibonacci numbers inherent in a photo like this! You betcha!

Wrong again… not the Fibonacci number… the Valenzetti Equation.

The Valenzetti Equation is the mathematical equation developed by the reclusive Princeton University mathematician Enzo Valenzetti. Its creation was the result of efforts made following the Cuban Missile Crisis by the United States and the Soviet Union to find a solution to the hostility and danger of imminent global disaster created by the Cold War. The equation was secretly commissioned through the UN Security Council and is used to predict the time of human extinction.

20 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:10:40pm

Bwa-ha-ha-haa! Oh, yes they can.

21 zora  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:10:43pm

re: #9 NJDhockeyfan

it’s too sad to be comedy. these people are whackjobs.

22 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:10:53pm

re: #12 Dark_Falcon

Why? i don’t support it either. Ever since the Shoreside Bank mini-scandal here in Chicago, I’ve been very skeptical of Obama’s community lending. Nor do i want to add more bad government debt. It’s a bad idea, and Obama’s promises on it are just unicorn farts as far as I’m concerned.

Also let me rephrase my statement in a less confrontational way…

Maybe now that he’s won his party’s primary he’ll go back to being reasonable on immigration and looking for rational long term solutions instead of shouting/chanting/whispering meaningless catch phrases.

Wouldn’t it be nice if he did that DF?

23 Irenicum  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:11:51pm

Purty. But every time I try to smell em I get a nose bleed.

24 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:11:59pm

Pretty color.

26 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:12:55pm

re: #19 Walter L. Newton

Wrong again… not the Fibonacci number… the Valenzetti Equation.

The Valenzetti Equation is the mathematical equation developed by the reclusive Princeton University mathematician Enzo Valenzetti. Its creation was the result of efforts made following the Cuban Missile Crisis by the United States and the Soviet Union to find a solution to the hostility and danger of imminent global disaster created by the Cold War. The equation was secretly commissioned through the UN Security Council and is used to predict the time of human extinction.

Speaking of that… I wonder if Ludwig is familiar with the Valenzetti Equation?

27 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:13:12pm

re: #17 jamesfirecat

How do you support helping Small Businesses then?

Cut captial gains tax
Tort reform
Reduce environmental regs
Make the Girl Scouts sell their damn cookies somewhere else

28 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:13:39pm

re: #25 darthstar

FTFY (Plagiarism is a crime)

You never let me have any fun.

29 theheat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:15:05pm

I decided I’d take a stab at growing cactus here in the rainy Northwest, so I mail ordered some prickly pear starts. First thing I figured out the hard way: use BBQ tongs to plant them. These are nasty critters. They have about a million spiny little hairs on them, so small you can’t see even them.

30 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:15:08pm

re: #25 darthstar

FTFY (Plagiarism is a crime)

Oh, great…so the Valenzetti Equation is where they get the numbers for that stupid show about the people from the plane crash stuck on Turd Island (I know, it’s true name is Bulamanganao).

31 Jimmah  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:15:20pm

This video reminds me that I really shouldn’t be wearing my good clothes while I’m decorating:

Night folks :)

32 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:15:42pm

re: #11 Rightwingconspirator

What a nice cactus. We have succulents around here too, though I’m partial to the Agave. *wink*

You get sunburnt?

33 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:16:21pm

re: #31 Jimmah

This video reminds me that I really shouldn’t be wearing my good clothes while I’m decorating:


[Video]Night folks :)

Heh. Decorating = painting.
LOL!

34 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:16:30pm

re: #19 Walter L. Newton

Wrong again… not the Fibonacci number… the Valenzetti Equation.

The Valenzetti Equation is the mathematical equation developed by the reclusive Princeton University mathematician Enzo Valenzetti. Its creation was the result of efforts made following the Cuban Missile Crisis by the United States and the Soviet Union to find a solution to the hostility and danger of imminent global disaster created by the Cold War. The equation was secretly commissioned through the UN Security Council and is used to predict the time of human extinction.

So…

[Cato gulps, gasps, reaches for a beer]

they know the date, and are keeping it from us for our own peace of mind?!?!!?

[calls dealer, puts in emergency order]

A-and, t-there’s nothing we can d-d-do about it?!?!?

Are you saying we’re all lost, or will my Shield of Algebra protect me in the end?

35 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:17:14pm

re: #28 Walter L. Newton

You never let me have any fun.

There’s nothing wrong with citing your sources. It’s called being honest, and makes you look smarter than if you pass information off as if it’s something you actually know…and then get caught. Besides, your writing style is easy enough to spot, so when you pull from someone else, it stands out quite clearly.

36 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:17:25pm

re: #30 darthstar

Oh, great…so the Valenzetti Equation is where they get the numbers for that stupid show about the people from the plane crash stuck on Turd Island (I know, it’s true name is Bulamanganao).

The Valenzetti Equation is part of a online extension of the TV show called The Lost Experience, which was “played” between season 3 and 4… it’s backstory to a lot of what was going on on The Island.

37 Ericus58  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:17:25pm

re: #27 Decatur Deb

Cut captial gains tax
Tort reform
Reduce environmental regs
Make the Girl Scouts sell their damn cookies somewhere else

That reminds me of the poster with the girl scout in the forefront of a burning house….

“Next time, you buy the damn cookies”

38 Political Atheist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:17:51pm

re: #32 Floral Giraffe

You get sunburnt?

I use Aloe for that. Agave makes my tequila. Blue Agave I think. Or so the jimador told me.

How are ya Floral?

39 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:19:12pm

re: #35 darthstar

There’s nothing wrong with citing your sources. It’s called being honest, and makes you look smarter than if you pass information off as if it’s something you actually know…and then get caught. Besides, your writing style is easy enough to spot, so when you pull from someone else, it stands out quite clearly.

Cake-brain… it was meant to be found, I wasn’t trying to pass it off as my own, as indicative of the fact that Cato and yourself commented on the origins.

Except Cato had fun with it, you’re anal tight-assed attitude took it as some affront to you senibilities.

40 jaunte  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:19:30pm

re: #34 Cato the Elder

will my Shield of Algebra protect me in the end?


Let x=x

41 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:19:51pm

re: #36 Walter L. Newton

The Valenzetti Equation is part of a online extension of the TV show called The Lost Experience, which was “played” between season 3 and 4… it’s backstory to a lot of what was going on on The Island.

Is there a Lost Porn Experience as well? I didn’t notice it was from a site called “lostopedia”…I do hope you don’t get this involved in next season’s “Dancing with the Stars”

42 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:19:58pm

re: #17 jamesfirecat

How do you support helping Small Businesses then?

Keep taxes low instead. Leave the income tax rates at the Bush level for at least one more year. Lower taxes allow a business owner to funnel his money back into his business. It doesn’t have a dragging effect over time. Loans, by contrast, have conditions and require repayment. They are preferential, while low tax rates are universal. By letting tax rates rise, Obama is taking money from small business owners, which will leave them less able to qualify for or repay loans.

43 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:20:44pm

re: #34 Cato the Elder

So…

[Cato gulps, gasps, reaches for a beer]

they know the date, and are keeping it from us for our own peace of mind?!?!!?

[calls dealer, puts in emergency order]

A-and, t-there’s nothing we can d-d-do about it?!?!?

Are you saying we’re all lost, or will my Shield of Algebra protect me in the end?

Yes… but you there are opposing mathematical opinions… you may want to take this hypothesis into consideration…

“Denoting by N the total number of humans who were ever or will ever be born, the Copernican principle suggests that humans are equally likely (along with the other N − 1 humans) to find themselves at any position n[dubious – discuss], so humans assume that our fractional position f = n/N is uniformly distributed on the interval (0, 1] prior to learning our absolute position.”

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

44 Irenicum  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:20:53pm

re: #31 Jimmah

Cool video. Her voice reminds me of Leigh Nash of Sixpence None the Richer.

45 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:21:26pm

re: #34 Cato the Elder

So…

[Cato gulps, gasps, reaches for a beer]

they know the date, and are keeping it from us for our own peace of mind?!?!!?

[calls dealer, puts in emergency order]

A-and, t-there’s nothing we can d-d-do about it?!?!?

Are you saying we’re all lost, or will my Shield of Algebra protect me in the end?

It’s no secret… the date is in Dec 2012.
/

46 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:21:29pm

re: #39 Walter L. Newton

Cake-brain… it was meant to be found, I wasn’t trying to pass it off as my own, as indicative of the fact that Cato and yourself commented on the origins.

Except Cato had fun with it, you’re anal tight-assed attitude took it as some affront to you senibilities.

That hurts, Walter. You cut me deep. I don’t know if I can go on any more. I don’t know if I can go on any less, either, but that’s beside the point.

47 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:22:07pm

re: #46 darthstar

That hurts, Walter. You cut me deep. I don’t know if I can go on any more. I don’t know if I can go on any less, either, but that’s beside the point.

We can only hope…

Supper… I’ll be back.

48 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:22:29pm

re: #41 darthstar

Is there a Lost Porn Experience as well? I didn’t notice it was from a site called “lostopedia”…I do hope you don’t get this involved in next season’s “Dancing with the Stars”

Cato will. Bristol Palin will be on it, so Cato will be rooting for her to fall on her backside. He regards her as a grifter like her mother.

49 Irenicum  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:23:22pm

What, someone said something about Dancing with the Porn Stars?

50 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:24:20pm

re: #38 Rightwingconspirator

I use Aloe for that. Agave makes my tequila. Blue Agave I think. Or so the jimador told me.

How are ya Floral?

Peachy keen, and you?
I see your Lady tomorrow!

51 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:25:12pm

re: #48 Dark_Falcon

Cato will. Bristol Palin will be on it, so Cato will be rooting for her to fall on her backside. He regards her as a grifter like her mother.

Bristol isn’t a grifter. Her mom’s a grifter. Bristol’s simply taking advantage of the publicity she got for being related to her mother. She’ll either get a manager who will make her a celebrity in her own right, or she’ll hook up with Levi and go back to nursing school in a couple of years when her mother’s star burns out.

52 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:25:40pm

re: #49 Irenicum

What, someone said something about Dancing with the Porn Stars?

They did, but, um, well, er, um, I don’t think Porn stars, well, dance…
If you know what I mean…

53 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:25:56pm

re: #21 zora

it’s too sad to be comedy. these people are whackjobs.

I like this comment at YouTube…


What, no suicide bombers and cardboard Qassam rockets? At least be realistic…
54 Irenicum  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:27:04pm

re: #52 Floral Giraffe

Those are some crazy dance floor moves. How did he get her to spin like that?

55 Ericus58  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:27:56pm

re: #48 Dark_Falcon

Cato will. Bristol Palin will be on it, so Cato will be rooting for her to fall on her backside. He regards her as a grifter like her mother.

I would hope that most will let Bristol live her life - mistakes and all.
Bristol has a rough road ahead, and I hope she becomes her own Woman.
Who here has not had the experience of having a sister/daughter/friend in similar situation?
Bad “husband”, difficult Mom… newborn child.

She is that child’s best defender. I wish her the best.

56 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:28:05pm
57 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:28:50pm

re: #55 Ericus58

I would hope that most will let Bristol live her life - mistakes and all.
Bristol has a rough road ahead, and I hope she becomes her own Woman.
Who here has not had the experience of having a sister/daughter/friend in similar situation?
Bad “husband”, difficult Mom… newborn child.

She is that child’s best defender. I wish her the best.

Quite Concur.

58 Irenicum  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:29:12pm

re: #55 Ericus58

Well put.

59 freetoken  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:29:37pm

re: #55 Ericus58


Bad “husband”, difficult Mom… newborn child.

If the latest Vanity Fair article is true, “difficult” is a bit of an understatement when it comes to The Sarah.

60 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:29:55pm

re: #53 NJDhockeyfan

I like this comment at YouTube…

So, were those people doing the street theatre pro-Israel or pro-Palestine? Honestly, I can’t tell the difference between the two sides. Basically, they’re calling for the status quo.

61 laZardo  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:30:08pm

Morning honcos.

Waiting around to be interviewed by my school paper. Also, new LGF page.

62 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:30:22pm

re: #48 Dark_Falcon

Cato will. Bristol Palin will be on it, so Cato will be rooting for her to fall on her backside. He regards her as a grifter like her mother.

Show you what happens when you make assumptions about me.

I regard Bristol as primarily a victim. Of her mother’s hubris and ambition.

This is a mother who loved her daughter so much that she would have and did marry her off to a completely unworthy baby daddy all for the sake of presenting a nice wholesome Christian family to the rubes at the GOP convention.

Sawah Pawin is the worst mother in America, and would sell any member of her family for more money, a bigger Lear jet, or just attention.

63 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:31:02pm

re: #54 Irenicum

Those are some crazy dance floor moves. How did he get her to spin like that?

It’s amazing what those Palins will do when you start pulling out the FIVE dollar bills.

64 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:31:31pm

re: #63 darthstar

Lol that was cold.

Funny, but cold.

65 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:31:46pm

re: #40 jaunte

Let x=x

Mega-giga-tera-updings for Laurie Anderson.

66 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:31:55pm

re: #60 darthstar

So, were those people doing the street theatre pro-Israel or pro-Palestine? Honestly, I can’t tell the difference between the two sides. Basically, they’re calling for the status quo.

You never heard of Coke Pink? That’s who made the video and posted it. They are not friends of Israel at all.

67 compound idaho  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:32:45pm

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

Keep taxes low instead. Leave the income tax rates at the Bush level for at least one more year. Lower taxes allow a business owner to funnel his money back into his business. It doesn’t have a dragging effect over time. Loans, by contrast, have conditions and require repayment. They are preferential, while low tax rates are universal. By letting tax rates rise, Obama is taking money from small business owners, which will leave them less able to qualify for or repay loans.

Repeal health care, reduce taxes, stop talking cap and trade. Small businesses do not need more loans/debt. We need more customers and a growing economy. Banks do not want and should not make loans to companies just trying to stay afloat meet payroll etc. Debt is to fund expansion in a growing economy.

68 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:32:58pm

re: #62 Cato the Elder

Sawah Pawin is the worst mother in America, and would sell any member of her family for more money, a bigger Lear jet, or just attention.

Cato, did you see the Betty Bowers video I posted in the previous thread?

Linky goodness, in case you issed it.

69 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:33:14pm

re: #68 darthstar

Cato, did you see the Betty Bowers video I posted in the previous thread?

Linky goodness, in case you issed it.

missed, not issed…PIMF

70 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:33:31pm

re: #62 Cato the Elder

Show you what happens when you make assumptions about me.

I regard Bristol as primarily a victim. Of her mother’s hubris and ambition.

This is a mother who loved her daughter so much that she would have and did marry her off to a completely unworthy baby daddy all for the sake of presenting a nice wholesome Christian family to the rubes at the GOP convention.

Sawah Pawin is the worst mother in America, and would sell any member of her family for more money, a bigger Lear jet, or just attention.

Please excuse the assumption and consider my contention withdrawn.

71 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:33:49pm

re: #66 NJDhockeyfan

You never heard of Coke Pink? That’s who made the video and posted it. They are not friends of Israel at all.

Coke Zero, yes. Coke Pink, no.

72 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:34:50pm

re: #67 compound idaho

Repeal health care, reduce taxes, stop talking cap and trade. Small businesses do not need more loans/debt. We need more customers and a growing economy. Banks do not want and should not make loans to companies just trying to stay afloat meet payroll etc. Debt is to fund expansion in a growing economy.

Why repeal health care?

Or are you being sarcastic?

73 Irenicum  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:35:00pm

re: #66 NJDhockeyfan

Is that New Coke Pink, cuz it sucks. I stick with Original Coke Pink. Better formula.

74 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:35:19pm

re: #67 compound idaho

Repeal health care, reduce taxes, stop talking cap and trade. Small businesses do not need more loans/debt. We need more customers and a growing economy. Banks do not want and should not make loans to companies just trying to stay afloat meet payroll etc. Debt is to fund expansion in a growing economy.

Agreed. Obama will not repeal his health care plan, but he could do that latter two. Make it clear that cap-and-trade is dead, and that the tax cuts will be extended for at least a year. These are measures that would pass with bipartisan support.

75 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:35:31pm

re: #71 darthstar

Coke Zero, yes. Coke Pink, no.

Code Pink. You might like them.

76 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:35:46pm

re: #72 jamesfirecat

I like how its not ‘repeal health care reform’, but ‘repeal health care!

SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST!

77 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:36:08pm

Love this iPhone photo! Who in the past would’ve thought that our cellular devices could produce equal images??? Done.

78 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:36:11pm

re: #73 Irenicum

Is that New Coke Pink, cuz it sucks. I stick with Original Coke Pink. Better formula.

I got pink coke from a dealer once…I was like, WTF? Did you cut this while washing your colors in the laundry? (I still did the shit, though…but those were some dark days in my youth)

79 b_sharp  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:36:29pm

Somebody start a fight.

80 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:36:38pm

re: #73 Irenicum

Is that New Coke Pink, cuz it sucks. I stick with Original Coke Pink. Better formula.

I still love how New Coke cause Pepsi to declare “Victory Over Coke Day” as a corporate holiday. It was perhaps the best corporate diss ever.

81 Irenicum  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:37:04pm

re: #78 darthstar

You made me snort with laughter.

82 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:37:08pm

re: #74 Dark_Falcon

so is the new angle ‘we shouldn’t help small business but only big business’?

Generally saying that the right wants to only help the very rich is a smear, but now I”m wondering.

83 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:37:17pm

What a relief to have a thread about something other than craziness.

Here is the approach of the gloaming for the second of September, A.D. 2010, in the San Gabriel Mountains of California.

— Tonight’s towercam.

84 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:37:20pm

re: #80 Dark_Falcon

I still love how New Coke cause Pepsi to declare “Victory Over Coke Day” as a corporate holiday. It was perhaps the best corporate diss ever.

Maybe IBM can have “V-A” day…

85 Political Atheist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:37:42pm

re: #50 Floral Giraffe

Peachy keen, and you?
I see your Lady tomorrow!

We are well here looking forward to a long fun weekend.
D_L says hasta manana from the seekrit garden!

86 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:38:00pm

re: #79 b_sharp

Somebody start a fight.

*throws a left punch*

87 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:38:26pm

re: #84 jamesfirecat

That would be MS, no?

“We beat them so hard we had to lend them money because we had to have someone to beat!”

88 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:38:27pm

re: #83 Ojoe

I look at these every.fucking.time.you.post.them. Ojoe. Thanks.

89 jaunte  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:38:46pm

re: #79 b_sharp

Somebody start a fight.

You’re going to have to come up with a competing towercam.

90 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:39:08pm

re: #88 darthstar

took me a while, but set them as the screen on my phone. Only problem is its pretty boring in the middle of the night >>

91 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:39:11pm

re: #87 windsagio

That would be MS, no?

“We beat them so hard we had to lend them money because we had to have someone to beat!”

I’ve seen that used to explain the Pirates.

92 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:39:45pm

re: #79 b_sharp

Somebody start a fight.

OK.

This one goes out to Ludwig:

Science will save humanity!

The same science that fucked it.

93 b_sharp  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:39:56pm

re: #86 Floral Giraffe

*throws a left punch*

Duck!

94 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:40:08pm

re: #88 darthstar

It’s my default browser window. I grew up down in So Cal & hiked those mountains a lot, so I get to spy on them with the Towercam. When it’s pretty I post it. Glad you like it.

95 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:40:37pm

re: #75 NJDhockeyfan

Code Pink. You might like them.

puleeze. I had no knowledge of those impressive strong political affect-ors on US life till I arrived on LGF.

booga booga

96 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:40:57pm

re: #82 windsagio

so is the new angle ‘we shouldn’t help small business but only big business’?

Generally saying that the right wants to only help the very rich is a smear, but now I”m wondering.

No. My argument is that small business owners (many of whom own a good bit more than a mom-and-pop store, given how the term is defined) will get hit by the rise in taxes and this will cancel out any stimulative effect of small business loans. In fact, I think the combination likely to have a net negative effect. So I argue for holding tax rates down instead.

97 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:41:02pm

re: #9 NJDhockeyfan

Comedy entertainment via pink moonbats

[Video]

Medea Benjamin is auditioning for her very own reality show.

98 b_sharp  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:41:09pm

re: #89 jaunte

You’re going to have to come up with a competing towercam.

I don’t have one. Would a buttcam be OK.

99 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:41:31pm

re: #96 Dark_Falcon

No. My argument is that small business owners (many of whom own a good bit more than a mom-and-pop store, given how the term is defined) will get hit by the rise in taxes and this will cancel out any stimulative effect of small business loans. In fact, I think the combination likely to have a net negative effect. So I argue for holding tax rates down instead.

How about if we only raises taxes on people making less than 250,000 in PROFIT per year?

100 Irenicum  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:41:32pm

re: #95 Stanley Sea

Same here. I never even heard of them till I got here and found out “they” were everywhere!!!

101 jaunte  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:41:51pm

re: #98 b_sharp

Thomas Merton is giving you such a look.

102 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:41:58pm

re: #95 Stanley Sea

puleeze. I had no knowledge of those impressive strong political affect-ors on US life till I arrived on LGF.

booga booga

They were fun to watch for a while in Senate hearings where they’d hold up signs saying, “Liar” without disrupting the process…Almost got C-SPAN to change the angle of their camera on the people testifying.

103 laZardo  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:42:08pm

re: #92 Cato the Elder

Be careful with that science, you might go…

104 compound idaho  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:42:22pm

re: #76 windsagio

I like how its not ‘repeal health care reform’, but ‘repeal health care!

SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST!

The health care legislation will increase my cost of doing business near as I can tell. The irony is that one of my employees is sure the whole health care industry is out to kill him or rather keep him and all of us sick as long as possible. So on his behalf “repeal health care” although I meant 0bamacare.

105 Irenicum  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:42:22pm

re: #98 b_sharp

OK, enough of the cracks!

106 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:42:22pm

Пиз”ец мне!

107 b_sharp  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:42:47pm

re: #92 Cato the Elder

OK.

This one goes out to Ludwig:


[Video]Science will save humanity!

The same science that fucked it.

Yup. There was no suffering before science.

108 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:43:22pm

re: #98 b_sharp

I don’t have one. Would a buttcam be OK.

Googled it…you gotta be 18, but there is a buttcam dot net site out there…penetrating pics, they promise.

109 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:43:45pm

re: #104 compound idaho

The health care legislation will increase my cost of doing business near as I can tell. The irony is that one of my employees is sure the whole health care industry is out to kill him or rather keep him and all of us sick as long as possible. So on his behalf “repeal health care” although I meant 0bamacare.

What do you say to the CBO’s statements that Obamacare will decrease the national debt?

110 b_sharp  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:44:31pm

re: #101 jaunte

Thomas Merton is giving you such a look.

Is he dead?

111 compound idaho  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:44:32pm

re: #109 jamesfirecat

What do you say to the CBO’s statements that Obamacare will decrease the national debt?

I have some land in FL for sale.

112 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:44:34pm

re: #99 jamesfirecat

How about if we only raises taxes on people making less than 250,000 in PROFIT per year?

Did you mean to say “more than” instead of “less than”?

113 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:44:36pm

re: #109 jamesfirecat

What do you say to the CBO’s statements that Obamacare will decrease the national debt?

I’m guessing “Debts don’t matter”…but that’s a phrase that’s waiting for the Republicans to retake the White House.

114 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:44:56pm

re: #111 compound idaho

I have some land in FL for sale.

Who doesn’t. Shit won’t sell.

115 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:45:05pm

re: #112 Dark_Falcon

Did you mean to say “more than” instead of “less than”?

Yeah my bad.

116 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:45:08pm

re: #110 b_sharp

I pray… pray that that’s a Mark Twain reference.

117 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:45:09pm

re: #114 darthstar

Who doesn’t. Shit won’t sell.

That was sarc, CCA and Ace!

118 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:45:23pm

re: #107 b_sharp

Yup. There was no suffering before science.

Of course there was.

Science merely rationalized and industrialized it.

119 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:45:58pm

re: #118 Cato the Elder

Neoluddite trip again, eh?

Things have gone to hell since last Wednesday!

120 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:46:09pm

re: #111 compound idaho

I have some land in FL for sale.

What do you say to the idea that keeping people from being forbidden due to Pre-existing conditions will dramatically increase the standard of living?

121 laZardo  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:46:32pm

re: #110 b_sharp

Is he dead?

Since 1968, Jim.

122 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:46:48pm

re: #120 jamesfirecat

He knows personally because healthcare reform will dramatically increase costs for his small business!

Really!

123 laZardo  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:46:52pm

re: #117 darthstar

That was sarc, CCA and Ace!

/

For your trouble. (:

124 compound idaho  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:47:03pm

re: #120 jamesfirecat

What do you say to the idea that keeping people from being forbidden due to Pre-existing conditions will dramatically increase the standard of living?

That law could have been one page long.

125 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:48:01pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

That was rather scary.

126 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:48:48pm

re: #124 compound idaho

That law could have been one page long.

The law SHOULD have been one sentence long: “We hereby extend Medicare coverage to all United States citizens.” Done. Health care reform complete. Insurance companies, feel free to compete.

127 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:49:26pm

re: #125 Cato the Elder

That was rather scary.

Scary cat is scary.

128 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:49:31pm

re: #124 compound idaho

That law could have been one page long.

Do you realize what would happen to the insurance industry if the law was one page long and just said that and only that?

129 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:49:32pm

re: #126 darthstar

The law SHOULD have been one sentence long: “We hereby extend Medicare coverage to all United States citizens.” Done. Health care reform complete. Insurance companies, feel free to compete.

OMG CREEPING SOCIALISM!!!!!!

130 prairiefire  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:49:44pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

Пиз”ец мне!

[Video]

Stealth kitteh.

131 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:50:11pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

Scary cat is scary.

indeed

132 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:50:53pm

break time…bbl

133 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:52:45pm

re: #131 darthstar

Is that the music from Lost? Nice touch.

134 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:53:05pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

How is your “kitty with issues” doing?
Zoe, IIRC?

135 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:53:09pm

re: #126 darthstar

And once again, I want to date you.

136 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:53:41pm

re: #115 jamesfirecat

Yeah my bad.

OK, good. My answer would still be “no”. That would still have a negative effect. Remember, just because the small business made $300,000, doesn’t mean the own kept all that profit. Much of it, maybe most of it, would go towards upgrading the business’s products and services, paying bonuses, charitable giving, etc. It’s better to keep the taxes lower all the way around.

137 compound idaho  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:53:52pm

re: #128 jamesfirecat

Do you realize what would happen to the insurance industry if the law was one page long and just said that and only that?

If convicted drunk drivers can buy auto insurance, I am sure we could fix the pre-existing conditions problems without fucking everything else up. If being a drunk is not a pre-existing condition with regard in auto insurance, I don’t know what is. No offense to anyone here.

138 laZardo  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:54:13pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

Пиз”ец мне!

[Video]

:3

139 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:55:22pm

OT: What do you mix with coffee infused vodka?

I’ve gotta try it, but I’m not one to drink stuff straight >>

140 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:55:39pm

re: #134 Floral Giraffe

How is your “kitty with issues” doing?
Zoe, IIRC?

She’s doing much better. A little extra attention and some additional play time and all her behavior problems have all gone. Thanks for asking.

141 laZardo  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:56:02pm

Gonna get interview’d bbl.

Once again, I posted a new LGF page. O:

142 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:56:30pm

re: #140 Killgore Trout

She’s doing much better. A little extra attention and some additional play time and all her behavior problems have all gone. Thanks for asking.

Well, what I’m curious about is your froggies.

143 Ericus58  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:56:57pm

re: #92 Cato the Elder

OK.

This one goes out to Ludwig:


[Video]Science will save humanity!

The same science that fucked it.

The video and that gal’s voice…. awesome.

Not getting into the bickering between you guys.
I appreciate you both… just in prescribed doses ;)

144 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:56:59pm

re: #136 Dark_Falcon

OK, good. My answer would still be “no”. That would still have a negative effect. Remember, just because the small business made $300,000, doesn’t mean the own kept all that profit. Much of it, maybe most of it, would go towards upgrading the business’s products and services, paying bonuses, charitable giving, etc. It’s better to keep the taxes lower all the way around.

How about businesses that make over a million dollars in profit?

145 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:57:35pm

An update on the environmentalist nut case… he used to be a smuggler…

Discovery Gunman James Lee’s Sordid Past as a Human Smuggler

James Lee, the bomb-laden gunman who was killed by police in the lobby of the Discovery Channel, was once convicted and imprisoned for smuggling illegal immigrants into the country from Mexico.

The revelation that Lee had once smuggled illegals contrasts sharply with a hate-filled manifesto he left behind in which he describes illegal immigrants as “disgusting filth” and their children as “anchor baby filth.”

146 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:58:27pm

re: #142 reine.de.tout

Well, what I’m curious about is your froggies.

LOL!
They’re out there, he just needs to get out the flashlight & go looking!
(Leaving the kitties in the house!)
*waves*

147 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:58:27pm

re: #137 compound idaho

If convicted drunk drivers can buy auto insurance, I am sure we could fix the pre-existing conditions problems without fucking everything else up. If being a drunk is not a pre-existing condition with regard in auto insurance, I don’t know what is. No offense to anyone here.

You completely miss my point

If you just make it so that people with pre-existing conditions can buy health insurance, then no one will buy insurance EVER until something has gone wrong with them and they need insurance to fit the bill…

That’s why there has to be a tax on people who don’t buy insurance to keep them from jumping on the bandwagon only when they actually need it.

So what about “Obamacare” do you find so objectionable exactly?

148 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:58:53pm

re: #142 reine.de.tout

Well, what I’m curious about is your froggies.


They are still around. I haven’t spotted one for a week or so but I can hear them chirping at night. They seem to be sticking around.

149 Political Atheist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:59:07pm

Random photo sanity break…

Okay not really random.

150 prairiefire  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:59:07pm

re: #139 windsagio

OT: What do you mix with coffee infused vodka?

I’ve gotta try it, but I’m not one to drink stuff straight >>

Fra Angelica?

151 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:59:13pm

re: #145 NJDhockeyfan

An update on the environmentalist nut case… he used to be a smuggler…

Discovery Gunman James Lee’s Sordid Past as a Human Smuggler

Wow this guy really was all over the crazy roadmap….

152 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:59:26pm

re: #137 compound idaho

If convicted drunk drivers can buy auto insurance, I am sure we could fix the pre-existing conditions problems without fucking everything else up. If being a drunk is not a pre-existing condition with regard in auto insurance, I don’t know what is. No offense to anyone here.

I cannot stand the comparison of health insurance to car insurance.

Wrecked Toyota Avalon? Please compare to chemotherapy for stage 4 breast cancer.

153 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 7:59:57pm

re: #145 NJDhockeyfan

An update on the environmentalist nut case… he used to be a smuggler…

Discovery Gunman James Lee’s Sordid Past as a Human Smuggler

Fucking wingnut.

154 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:00:03pm

re: #150 prairiefire

I appreciate the advice, but I have absolutely no idea what that is :p

155 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:00:16pm

re: #145 NJDhockeyfan

An update on the environmentalist nut case… he used to be a smuggler…

Discovery Gunman James Lee’s Sordid Past as a Human Smuggler

Ahem.
Check “pages” every now and then.

156 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:00:32pm

re: #153 Walter L. Newton

Fucking wingnut.

Damn teabaggers!

157 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:00:32pm

re: #139 windsagio

OT: What do you mix with coffee infused vodka?

I’ve gotta try it, but I’m not one to drink stuff straight >>

Coke? straight.

158 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:00:43pm

re: #152 Stanley Sea

You randomly remind me of a NPR story I heard (I think yesterday). Apparently a double masectomy GREATLY decreases your chance of getting Breast Cancer.

159 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:00:54pm

re: #148 Killgore Trout

They are still around. I haven’t spotted one for a week or so but I can hear them chirping at night. They seem to be sticking around.

Great!
‘cept it’s crickets that chirp.
Frogs croak.
uh-oh.

160 zora  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:01:01pm

[Link: www.theatlantic.com…]

Digby argues that Moulitsas should have some kind of poetic license,and shouldn’t be taken literally. That strikes me as squishy. This statement—“in their tactics and on the issues, our homegrown American Taliban are almost indistinguishable from the Afghan Taliban”—is quite literal, and one is obliged to ask if it’s true or not.

The notion that “slut-shaming” and “nose-cutting” have the same deeper meaning—presumably a fear of women’s sexuality, though Digby doesn’t say this—is true as far as it takes you. Likewise the notion that black people should be slaves, the notion that they should be shipped back to Africa, that they should be segregated in communities, that they should not be allowed to intermarry, also have the same root cause—that blacks are unequal to whites. At varying points, Abraham Lincoln, John C. Calhoun, William T. Sherman, and Ulysses Grant held one or all of these views, and all probably died thinking blacks were unequal to whites. But that doesn’t make them interchangeable. Lincoln and Grant aren’t “less evil” versions of Calhoun.

good read. coates from the atlantic regarding the comparison of the religious right to the taliban and markos moulitsas new book, american taliban

161 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:01:05pm

re: #157 Stanley Sea

I’ll try coke first :D

162 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:01:08pm

re: #149 Rightwingconspirator

Random photo sanity break…

Okay not really random.

163 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:01:54pm

re: #146 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
They’re out there, he just needs to get out the flashlight & go looking!
(Leaving the kitties in the house!)
*waves*

*waves back*
Hey, Flo.
The only thing I hunt with a flashlight is sand crabs when I’m at the beach.
gah.
I was soooo happy when the young ‘uns finally outgrew it.

164 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:02:22pm

re: #155 reine.de.tout

Ahem.
Check “pages” every now and then.

Sorry about that. They didn’t load so I didn’t see it. I have the worst internet service. It’s very slow….when I am connected. It disconnects constantly.

165 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:02:35pm

re: #149 Rightwingconspirator

Random photo sanity break…

Okay not really random.

I love your fire photos!

166 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:02:43pm

re: #159 reine.de.tout

Great!
‘cept it’s crickets that chirp.
Frogs croak.
uh-oh.

They don’t seem to give the familiar croak until they’re mature. I can track them down in the garden by their chirping.

167 prairiefire  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:02:48pm

re: #154 windsagio

I appreciate the advice, but I have absolutely no idea what that is :p

Spelled it wrong. Frangelico, a hazelnut liqueur~yummy.[Link: www.frangelico.com…]

168 Randall Gross  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:03:00pm

KT: Earlier I was playing Alien Ant Farm’s version of Smooth Criminal that you turned me onto a while bacfk and my wife said “Hey, that sounds like a song Michael Jackson could have done… “

169 prairiefire  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:03:05pm

re: #159 reine.de.tout

Great!
‘cept it’s crickets that chirp.
Frogs croak.
uh-oh.

They are really little.

170 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:03:26pm

re: #119 windsagio

Neoluddite trip again, eh?

Things have gone to hell since last Wednesday!

Not a Luddite bone in my body.

Merely reflecting upon how science has made mass murder a job for video gamers sitting in uniform in a sub-sub-sub-basement somewhere in Idaho.

171 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:03:32pm

re: #158 windsagio

Well, DUH.
Didn’t mean to sound cruel, but no place to have the cancer = no cancer…

172 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:03:35pm

re: #167 prairiefire

awesome! Thanks!

173 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:03:57pm

re: #100 Irenicum

Same here. I never even heard of them till I got here and found out “they” were everywhere!!!

They’re not everywhere. I used to know exactly where they were, but they sold the cottage.

174 CuriousLurker  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:04:36pm

re: #152 Stanley Sea

I cannot stand the comparison of health insurance to car insurance.

Wrecked Toyota Avalon? Please compare to chemotherapy for stage 4 breast cancer.

Not to mention that drunk driving is a choice.

175 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:05:04pm

re: #171 Floral Giraffe

Haha exactly, they were very serious about it too, didnt’ get why it was a little absurd.

Altho’ with research it turns out they were talking about women with a particular mutation that makes getting cancer almost a certainty, and that they should just cut ‘em off early. Still, its a huge ‘DUH”!

176 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:05:20pm

re: #171 Floral Giraffe

Well, DUH.
Didn’t mean to sound cruel, but no place to have the cancer = no cancer…

I look forward to the day when I can abandon this pathetic meatbag form and ascend in a body made of glorious disease proof metal!

177 Political Atheist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:06:40pm

re: #165 reine.de.tout

Those are from a new set of a few dozen. Went for a magazine cover shoot assignment and could not resist firing up big blue as we call it. I’m such a pyro!

178 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:06:45pm

re: #174 CuriousLurker

Not to mention that drunk driving is a choice.

ding ding

Hi CL!

179 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:06:59pm

re: #145 NJDhockeyfan

An update on the environmentalist nut case… he used to be a smuggler…

Discovery Gunman James Lee’s Sordid Past as a Human Smuggler

A lot of ‘coyotes’ have contempt for the people they smuggle. Many abuse and exploit them quite badly.

180 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:07:10pm

re: #139 windsagio

OT: What do you mix with coffee infused vodka?

I’ve gotta try it, but I’m not one to drink stuff straight >>

Cream and sugar?

181 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:07:27pm

re: #177 Rightwingconspirator

LOL!
Pyro’s are HOT!

182 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:07:35pm

re: #175 windsagio

Haha exactly, they were very serious about it too, didnt’ get why it was a little absurd.

Altho’ with research it turns out they were talking about women with a particular mutation that makes getting cancer almost a certainty, and that they should just cut ‘em off early. Still, its a huge ‘DUH”!

I’m going to look for the story on NPR. You, as a dude are not relating it well to us wimmen.

183 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:08:19pm

re: #153 Walter L. Newton

Fucking wingnut.

Fucking moonwingbatnut.

184 Nimed  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:08:20pm

re: #171 Floral Giraffe

Well, DUH.
Didn’t mean to sound cruel, but no place to have the cancer = no cancer…

I hear that’s one of the main reasons women don’t have prostate cancer.
/

185 CuriousLurker  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:08:23pm

re: #178 Stanley Sea

ding ding

Hi CL!

Hiya, Sea! *waves*

186 Political Atheist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:08:25pm

re: #162 Killgore Trout

[Video]

That was hilarious, really fun. “Let it burn” circa 2010 lol

187 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:09:16pm

re: #168 Thanos

KT: Earlier I was playing Alien Ant Farm’s version of Smooth Criminal that you turned me onto a while bacfk and my wife said “Hey, that sounds like a song Michael Jackson could have done… “

They were kind of a one hit wonder band but they did some good stuff….

188 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:09:31pm

Hm. Latest on the platform fire, if anyone’s interested. It appears stored barrels caught fire, not any of the 7 wells on the platform:

VERMILION BAY, LA (WAFB/AP) - An oil platform exploded and burned off the Louisiana coast Thursday, the second such disaster in the Gulf of Mexico in less than five months.

Coast Guard Petty Officer Bill Coklough said Mariner Energy, Inc., the Houston company that owns the rig, had deployed three firefighting vessels to the site and one already was in place fighting the blaze. The Coast Guard had reported that a 100-foot-wide oil sheen had been spotted near the platform, but now says there is no sign of an oil leak.

According to the Coast Guard, 13 people were on the platform when it caught fire Thursday morning. All 13 are accounted for and one injury was reported.

The workers will be taken to Terrebonne General Medical Center in Houma by helicopter to be fully checked out.

The Coast Guard said it received a call at 9:19 a.m. from a neighboring rig that Vermilion 380 was on fire. A helicopter pilot then reported at about 10 a.m. he saw 13 people floating in the water in special suits near a burning oil rig platform.

Rescue helicopters and Coast Guard cutters were immediately sent to the scene. The rig is in water about 340 feet deep. Mariner said this is a platform rig, not a drilling rig.

The company reported there were seven active wells on the platform and one caught fire, but all are now shut in. Mariner also reported the platform produced an average of 1,400 barrels of oil per day, as well as 1,800 barrels of natural gas each day.

Mariner says stored barrels were the ones that caught fire and that dispersants are on standby if needed.

189 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:09:35pm

‘Nite, all.

190 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:11:02pm
191 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:12:08pm

re: #188 reine.de.tout

So far…
It’s in my prayers, that this “news” is the same tomorrow.
And the next day & the next…

192 jaunte  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:12:48pm

re: #188 reine.de.tout

So the next question becomes: how did the stored barrels catch fire?

193 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:13:28pm

More Laurie Anderson for the freeks:

194 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:13:40pm

re: #190 windsagio

Here’s the story from Reuters

HORRIBLE prevention.

195 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:13:53pm

re: #191 Floral Giraffe

So far…
It’s in my prayers, that this “news” is the same tomorrow.
And the next day & the next…

They say the wells are shut in. So that’s it. Thank goodness everyone survived.


re: #192 jaunte

So the next question becomes: how did the stored barrels catch fire?

Yeah, I’m wondering about that, too.

196 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:14:15pm

re: #194 Stanley Sea

HORRIBLE prevention.

reading further. It’s successful.

What a choice.

197 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:14:46pm

re: #196 Stanley Sea

reading further. It’s successful.

What a choice.

Not one I would want to have to make.

198 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:14:54pm

re: #196 Stanley Sea

I just, just don’t get why its a surprise that that works.

OF COURSE YOU CAN”T GET CANCER IN TISSUE YO UDONT” HAVE!!!

199 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:15:00pm

As the drunken geezers relive the musical hay day circa 2000….
sweater song


Namaste, y’all
200 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:16:33pm

re: #199 Killgore Trout

That would be fun; “Everybody post the top song when you were in Highschool! (you choose the year)”

Mine:

201 prairiefire  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:16:38pm

re: #193 Cato the Elder

More Laurie Anderson for the freeks:


[Video]

Love her in measured doses.

202 jaunte  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:16:41pm

re: #198 windsagio

I should have gotten skinned years ago.

203 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:17:28pm

re: #200 windsagio

That would be fun; “Everybody post the top song when you were in Highschool! (you choose the year)”

Mine:

I have no idea… I was taking accordion lessons… play damn good too!

204 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:18:18pm

re: #198 windsagio

I just, just don’t get why its a surprise that that works.

OF COURSE YOU CAN”T GET CANCER IN TISSUE YO UDONT” HAVE!!!

Yeah, no breasts by choice. ugh

I have a good friend who lost her mom to breast cancer. She got tested, and has the “gene” she also has a daughter.

All I can say is I’m lucky as hell so far. I cannot imagine what she’s going through. I’m with her on her journey, no decisions made. But it sucks.

205 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:18:52pm

re: #199 Killgore Trout

As the drunken geezers relive the musical hay day circa 2000…
sweater song

[Video]
Namaste, y’all

I love this song. just love it.

206 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:19:08pm

re: #203 Walter L. Newton

I have no idea… I was taking accordion lessons… play damn good too!

Here you are Walter:

207 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:19:32pm

re: #204 Stanley Sea

See that’s brutal, and tragic.

208 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:19:51pm

re: #200 windsagio

That would be fun; “Everybody post the top song when you were in Highschool! (you choose the year)”

Mine:


[Video]

Yeah I know, I was “weird” as a high school kid…..

209 prairiefire  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:20:05pm

re: #197 reine.de.tout

Not one I would want to have to make.

My sister in law had an elective hysterectomy because her breast cancer was from too much estrogen. Her reconstructive surgery for her breast was not successful, unfortunately. Her body rejected the plastic form for her new boobie. So, she last 30 pounds, has a fab hair style and has moved on.

210 brownbagj  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:20:20pm

re: #204 Stanley Sea

Reading things like this just breaks my heart. I wish humanity could quit finding inventive ways to kills each other and solve this very solvable issues.

My best to your friend and her daughter.

211 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:20:35pm

re: #200 windsagio

Next.

I’m pulling the thread as he walks away at the moment.

212 brownbagj  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:21:48pm

Ugh. I cannot type with a kid on my lap. Sorry for all the typos.

213 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:22:38pm

re: #210 brownbagj

Reading things like this just breaks my heart. I wish humanity could quit finding inventive ways to kills each other and solve this very solvable issues.

My best to your friend and her daughter.

Thank you.

Support the Susan G. Komen whatever, whenever.

214 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:22:51pm

Man, never mention breast cancer. All the ladies have crazy tragic stories they know >>

215 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:22:58pm

re: #9 NJDhockeyfan

Believe it or not, I once had respect for Code Pink until they jumped on the Israel bashing bandwagon, then I lost all possible respect. I actually thought they had developed a decent niche for themselves. Now the pink clad cretins stand alongside “right to return” groups that chant nasty things at us from across the street. One of the reasons I’ve ceased identifying as a liberal (now it’s just ‘nonpartisan’ - my views no longer fall dead smack into one camp) is because I don’t want to be lumped in with the jerks of Code Pinko or other left-wing kooks.

216 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:23:36pm

Even more Laurie Anderson. This one goes out to all the Superior People.

217 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:23:52pm

re: #209 prairiefire

Yeah for her!
Good job!

218 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:24:02pm

re: #208 jamesfirecat

That’s… kinda… grim >>

219 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:24:38pm

OK, I’m finished with Weezer. On to Nirvana.

HeLLO!

220 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:25:14pm

re: #216 Cato the Elder

Dejavu.

221 brownbagj  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:26:17pm

re: #213 Stanley Sea

Thank you.

Support the Susan G. Komen whatever, whenever.

We actually do. One of my wife’s friends barely survived. We walk, sponsor and donate.

222 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:26:30pm

re: #214 windsagio

You want to tell us your prostate stories?
They’re not any better.
It’s a matter of perspective.
And whether they’re YOUR parts….
It sucks to have these issues…

223 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:26:35pm

re: #218 windsagio

That’s… kinda… grim >>

Simple Plan often is. That may be why they didn’t truly ‘catch on’. They don’t produce cotton candy pop, much of their stuff has pain shot right though it.

224 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:27:38pm

re: #222 Floral Giraffe

I don’t know any prostate stories sadly >> ALl my friends are still healhy so far.

225 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:27:51pm

re: #223 Dark_Falcon

Simple Plan often is. That may be why they didn’t truly ‘catch on’. They don’t produce cotton candy pop, much of their stuff has pain shot right though it.

I like happy stuff… like Jim Morrison.

226 prairiefire  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:27:57pm

re: #222 Floral Giraffe

You want to tell us your prostate stories?
They’re not any better.
It’s a matter of perspective.
And whether they’re YOUR parts…
It sucks to have these issues…

We better not scare him, Floral. He won’t want to grow old.

227 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:28:05pm

re: #218 windsagio

That’s… kinda… grim >>

Its hard for me to pick what I was listening to in high school and what I was in college.

I had brief Simple Plan phase but pretty soon I moved onto stuff like this

And this…

228 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:28:14pm

re: #224 windsagio

I don’t know any prostate stories sadly >> ALl my friends are still healhy so far.

I can tell you about a pain in the ass.

229 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:28:46pm

re: #221 brownbagj

We actually do. One of my wife’s friends barely survived. We walk, sponsor and donate.

Kudos

230 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:28:54pm

oh this has to be shared, brilliant!

231 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:29:13pm

re: #227 jamesfirecat

argh, AMV! MY BRAIN!

232 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:29:17pm

re: #215 eclectic infidel

Believe it or not, I once had respect for Code Pink until they jumped on the Israel bashing bandwagon, then I lost all possible respect. I actually thought they had developed a decent niche for themselves. Now the pink clad cretins stand alongside “right to return” groups that chant nasty things at us from across the street. One of the reasons I’ve ceased identifying as a liberal (now it’s just ‘nonpartisan’ - my views no longer fall dead smack into one camp) is because I don’t want to be lumped in with the jerks of Code Pinko or other left-wing kooks.

Thanks for that. Code Pink has made the same mistake many on the right have made (Yes, I know its much more widespread on the right, but its the same kind of error): They’ve decided to try to bulk up their organization by allying with evil people they should avoid.

233 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:29:21pm

Can this day get any @#$#@ worse!? I shut down the bad PC, rebooted my old one and it started giving me grief. I finally got it back up and running.
Tomorrow I go look at a $1500 “cash” car so hopefully I’ll have transportation and then I[‘m going to go buy a @#$#@ motherboard and try to make the rest of my day go a little better.

234 zora  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:29:35pm

re: #200 windsagio

Brass Monkey

235 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:30:21pm

re: #215 eclectic infidel

Believe it or not, I once had respect for Code Pink until they jumped on the Israel bashing bandwagon, then I lost all possible respect. I actually thought they had developed a decent niche for themselves. Now the pink clad cretins stand alongside “right to return” groups that chant nasty things at us from across the street. One of the reasons I’ve ceased identifying as a liberal (now it’s just ‘nonpartisan’ - my views no longer fall dead smack into one camp) is because I don’t want to be lumped in with the jerks of Code Pinko or other left-wing kooks.

You should stay away from lefty blogs as well. I went over to HuffPo the other day reading comments on a thread about Hamas murdering 4 Israelis. The anti-Semitism and hate of Israel was unreal to read. I had to leave, it made my head hurt.

236 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:30:51pm

re: #234 zora

[Video]Brass Monkey

I’ll see your Brass Monkey and raise you Brass in Pocket

237 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:31:17pm

re: #236 PT Barnum

I thought you were older than that for some reason :D

238 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:31:25pm

re: #223 Dark_Falcon

Simple Plan often is. That may be why they didn’t truly ‘catch on’. They don’t produce cotton candy pop, much of their stuff has pain shot right though it.


I like happy stuff too honestly, but you tend to get into punk/pop via listening to grunge first…

So yeah I was into Simple Plan and Bad Religion before I discovered Blink 182, Bowling For Soup, Savage Garden, and every so often Relient K.

239 Ericus58  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:31:37pm

Still posting our grad year songs?

Try this one then:


a year before my real date ;)
but was on pic…. the committee went with “Stairway to Heaven” ugh!

240 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:32:45pm

re: #239 Ericus58

The more the better man!

Of course they did too, stupid Stairway :p

Its like the terrifying revival of “Bohemian Rhapsody” after waynes world came out. My friends used to sing it when gaming >>

241 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:33:00pm

re: #231 windsagio

argh, AMV! MY BRAIN!

The sad thing is that after the fact I just realized its a REALLY REALLY bad AMV in that’s just the song played over the show’s normal opening credits.

Here.

242 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:33:23pm

re: #216 Cato the Elder

Even more Laurie Anderson. This one goes out to all the Superior People.

re: #220 Racer X

Dejavu.

Dammit! Copypaste error.

Here’s Laurie Anderson for Superior People: “O Superman!”

“O Superman! O Judge! O Mom and Dad!”

For the connoisseurs among you, this is also a great video, not just a great song. Long live Art Rock!

243 prairiefire  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:33:41pm

re: #239 Ericus58

I have to say ACDC has stood the test of time. If you think about how long ago they first came out, they still seem current.

244 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:33:51pm

re: #237 windsagio

I thought you were older than that for some reason :D

I graduated in 1980.

I like Bowling for Soup. They do the theme song for one of my favorite cartoons: Phineas and Ferb. Cause I do have Squirrels in my Pants

245 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:34:03pm

re: #224 windsagio

I don’t know any prostate stories sadly >> ALl my friends are still healhy so far.

Ah! The blind insouciance of youth!

246 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:34:20pm

re: #243 prairiefire

I have to say ACDC has stood the test of time. If you think about how long ago they first came out, they still seem current.

I have Back in Black as my ringtone.

247 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:34:34pm

re: #224 windsagio

I don’t know any prostate stories sadly >> ALl my friends are still healhy so far.

Meh, you’re young.
Time will catch up with you all!
May it be light, and easy!

248 prairiefire  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:34:45pm

re: #244 PT Barnum

I’m going to 49 this year. You, too?

249 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:35:01pm

re: #200 windsagio

That would be fun; “Everybody post the top song when you were in Highschool! (you choose the year)”

Mine:

Mine:

250 What, me worry?  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:35:16pm

re: #246 PT Barnum

I have Back in Black as my ringtone.

She’s Got the Jack for me!

I’m up and running btw. Yea me!

251 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:35:23pm

re: #244 PT Barnum

KINKY!

252 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:35:38pm

Doot-doo-doo!

253 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:35:56pm

re: #240 windsagio

The more the better man!

Of course they did too, stupid Stairway :p

Its like the terrifying revival of “Bohemian Rhapsody” after waynes world came out. My friends used to sing it when gaming >>

Here’s a good vid of Queen performing it live:

254 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:36:16pm

re: #251 windsagio

KINKY!

I have to admit I love Phineas and Ferb. It works on so many levels.

255 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:36:32pm

re: #243 prairiefire

LOL!
My first rock concert was for Jeff Beck.
Aerosmith was the opening band.
Once upon a time, in a land far far away…

(I was deaf for WEEKS!)

256 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:36:33pm

re: #214 windsagio

Man, never mention breast cancer. All the ladies have crazy tragic stories they know >>

Yes, we do.

257 What, me worry?  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:37:13pm

re: #256 reine.de.tout

Yes, we do.

And some are rather miraculous!

258 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:37:44pm

re: #257 marjoriemoon

And some are rather miraculous!

Yes, and we are happy for those!

259 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:37:50pm

re: #235 NJDhockeyfan

You should stay away from lefty blogs as well. I went over to HuffPo the other day reading comments on a thread about Hamas murdering 4 Israelis. The anti-Semitism and hate of Israel was unreal to read. I had to leave, it made my head hurt.

Oh I know. It’s hard to take even in print. The double-standard, along with the outright prejudice against Jews is quite prevalent with the left.

Cognitive dissonance. Ack!

260 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:38:13pm

re: #254 PT Barnum

It’s good, no “Adventure time” tho’ :p

The clients like cartoons, so I see a lot at work :D

261 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:38:25pm

re: #251 windsagio

KINKY!

Ok… this is going to freak some people out, I’m probably opening myself up for a lot of shit… but this is what I did musically from 1965 till I graduated high school in 1970… did this with my accordion…

262 prairiefire  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:38:25pm

Billy Corgan wrote this song for me~~ “1979”

Night, lizards.

263 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:38:35pm

Also I listened to this a lot in high school…


(Warning above is AMV that introduced me to the song)

(Here is the non AMV version)

I guess the fact that I liked this song foreshadowed the fact that I’d become a “tax the millionares” Democrat…

264 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:39:14pm

re: #252 Racer X

Doot-doo-doo!


[Video]

Made me think of this:

265 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:39:15pm

re: #261 Walter L. Newton

That’s a hell of a marching band.

266 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:39:52pm

re: #263 jamesfirecat

Music really is corrupting our youth! At least politically!

267 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:40:21pm

re: #252 Racer X

Doot-doo-doo!


[Video]

I read this as

Doo-doo-doot!

Which made me think of this…

268 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:40:23pm

re: #230 windsagio

oh this has to be shared, brilliant!


[Video]

I am dying.

Oh this is it. lol

269 brownbagj  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:40:41pm

re: #266 windsagio
Dancing is evil. It leads kids into sex before marriage.

/

270 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:41:13pm

re: #262 prairiefire

Good song. He’s a hometown favorite of this Chicagoan.

271 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:41:56pm

re: #269 brownbagj

Dancing is evil. It leads kids into sex before marriage.

/

All right, who let the wingnut in? ;)

273 zora  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:42:14pm

re: #255 Floral Giraffe

my older sister took me to my first concert. prince at the richmond colosseum. he was amazing. i bought a poster of him in a g street. i was indignant for weeks because my father confiscated it. he still has the letter i wrote him about how if i was a boy he would have let me hang up a bikini pic and how he was oppressing me.

274 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:42:23pm

A band that named itself after algebra……..

NSFW

275 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:42:32pm

re: #272 windsagio

*I TRY TO GET HIM TO SING IT A LOT I MEAN

276 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:42:34pm

re: #265 windsagio

That’s a hell of a marching band.

A Philadelphia Mummers String Band… that was Fralinger String Band, I marched with Trilby… it’s one of the oldest parade and marching traditions in this country, goes back to the 1870’s…

277 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:42:43pm

re: #250 marjoriemoon

She’s Got the Jack for me!

I’m up and running btw. Yea me!

oh hey..just saw that. Great! I’ll be on tomorrow night cause I’m gonna need some stress relief.

278 brownbagj  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:42:58pm

re: #272 windsagio

Riiiigggghhhhhttttt.

279 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:43:08pm

re: #263 jamesfirecat

Good stuff. They don’t equal Green Day, but they’re not bad.

280 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:43:11pm

Cuz when love is gone
there’s always justice.
And when justice is gone
there’s always force.
And when force is gone
there’s always Mom.

—Laurie Anderson

This verse could be the epitaph for the world before World War One.

281 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:43:35pm

re: #278 brownbagj

oh dont’ get me wrong, he goth’s it up some, still great :D

282 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:44:11pm

re: #252 Racer X

re: #252 Racer X

LOL!
You made me go find this!

283 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:44:28pm

re: #274 Mr Pancakes

A band that named itself after algebra…

NSFW


[Video]

Please don’t bring up algebra right now. After the Cato-Ludwig running battle of the past two days, the mere mention of it makes my head hurt.

284 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:44:53pm

re: #279 Dark_Falcon

Good stuff. They don’t equal Green Day, but they’re not bad.

Green Day is another band I didn’t start listening to till college.

Don’t like all of their stuff but I did love some of their songs…

And certain parodies of their songs…

(AMV But its gut bustingly funny)

285 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:45:16pm

re: #283 Dark_Falcon

Please don’t bring up algebra right now. After the Cato-Ludwig running battle of the past two days, the mere mention of it makes my head hurt.

There was a running battle?

286 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:45:17pm

re: #280 Cato the Elder

Cuz when love is gone
there’s always justice.
And when justice is gone
there’s always force.
And when force is gone
there’s always Mom.

—Laurie Anderson

This verse could be the epitaph for the world before World War One.

How so?

287 brownbagj  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:45:21pm

re: #283 Dark_Falcon

Would that be causation or correlation?

/

288 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:45:43pm

re: #267 jamesfirecat

I love the Gomez kissing up his wife’s arm, whenever she spoke French!
NOT what you’d find on the TeeVee today!
LOL!

289 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:45:57pm

Good night everybody…I’m going to go get unconscious.

290 Ericus58  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:46:00pm

re: #249 Alouette

Mine:


[Video]

Oh, you scored on that one!
Luv’s the Marvin.

291 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:46:04pm

Anyone here a fan of the UK show Waiting For God?

292 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:46:14pm

re: #285 Mr Pancakes

There was a running battle?

Yeah. It spilled into thread after thread yesterday.

293 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:46:50pm

re: #288 Floral Giraffe

I love the Gomez kissing up his wife’s arm, whenever she spoke French!
NOT what you’d find on the TeeVee today!
LOL!

I do the same thing…but on a different location }:)~

294 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:46:50pm

re: #287 brownbagj

Would that be causation or correlation?

/

SMACK!

Does that answer your question?

295 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:47:21pm

re: #293 PT Barnum

I do the same thing…but on a different location }:)~

she says I’m incorrigable..I tell her I’m encourageable.

296 brownbagj  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:48:02pm

re: #294 Dark_Falcon

I just couldn’t help myself. I would guess a high probability of more of this.

297 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:49:40pm

re: #34 Cato the Elder

So…

[Cato gulps, gasps, reaches for a beer]

they know the date, and are keeping it from us for our own peace of mind?!?!!?

[calls dealer, puts in emergency order]

A-and, t-there’s nothing we can d-d-do about it?!?!?

Are you saying we’re all lost, or will my Shield of Algebra protect me in the end?

Way to twist what I write and over simplify it to the point that you sound just like one of the stalkers.

The fact is that ignorant boobs like you snark at the threats of AGW because you are so uneducated.

You do periodically snark because you are afraid of actually having to fulfill some social contract that might make you minimally eco-conscious. Poor, poor you. Poor Cato, hates that he might have a duty to the wider world. How - Republican of you.

As to the actual deniers, That you claim I want executed, I have always been very specific about the corrupt politicians and propagandists. Whether you think it is worthy of satire or not, they are convincing large masses of people to vote for their own dooms - and to drag us all along with them. That is a fact. It is evil, and given the catastrophic consequences of it, it is no ordinary evil at that.

But in the mean time, feel free to be-clown yourself. Play the besotted fool and wallow in some sense of importance. You become more disgusting and pathetic with each post.

You have never particularly shown yourself to be this fucking stupid before. My patience with you is at an end.

Why should you be proud of being ignorant?

By what right do you have to pretend an education when you write with the sneering disdain of it that a worthless person like Sarah Palin has?

You really disgusting and groping for relevance if it becomes somehow important of you to glorify your own ignorance as a badge of honor.

298 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:49:48pm

re: #285 Mr Pancakes

There was a running battle?

Yes. Cato was outlining a standard reduction of the 4-color theorem to a question about 3-coloring edges of trivalent graphs. Ludwig didn’t agree and tired to explain why 3-colorings of edges is a question about finding a positive evaluation algorithm for a certain planar algebra. Cato rebutted with a detailed discussion of “Euler characteristic” evaluation algorithms and Ludwig returned his parry to explain how this technique almost answers the 4-color theorem.

It was brutal to say the least.

299 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:50:04pm

re: #280 Cato the Elder

Ohh and one other thing. Fuck you.

300 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:50:49pm

lol.

301 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:51:12pm

and for SS:

I’d mentioned it to her earlier >>

302 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:53:06pm

re: #298 Walter L. Newton

Yes. Cato was outlining a standard reduction of the 4-color theorem to a question about 3-coloring edges of trivalent graphs. Ludwig didn’t agree and tired to explain why 3-colorings of edges is a question about finding a positive evaluation algorithm for a certain planar algebra. Cato rebutted with a detailed discussion of “Euler characteristic” evaluation algorithms and Ludwig returned his parry to explain how this technique almost answers the 4-color theorem.

It was brutal to say the least.

That would get my hackles up too……… I’m sorry I missed it.

303 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:53:23pm

re: #299 LudwigVanQuixote

I like you LVQ.

But when you act this way - it just makes people want to bust your balls MORE.

In case you had not noticed.

And they don’t dislike you - it’s more of a frat ball-busting party going on at your expense.

304 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:53:29pm

Oh and PIMF

Cato,

You really are disgusting and groping for relevance as if it becomes somehow important for you to glorify your own ignorance as a badge of honor.

305 Kragar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:53:51pm

re: #301 windsagio

and for SS:

[Video]

I’d mentioned it to her earlier >>

Greedy Fly was better

306 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:54:01pm

re: #303 Racer X

Cato tried to bring back the fight earlier too. They both seem utterly unable to let go.

307 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:54:13pm

re: #302 Mr Pancakes

That would get my hackles up too… I’m sorry I missed it.

Stick around for round two.

308 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:54:34pm

re: #299 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohh and one other thing. Fuck you.

Way to keep it classy LVQ.

309 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:54:38pm

re: #305 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I associate ‘Glycerine’ with somebody from the era, you know how it is :)

310 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:54:59pm

God said, ‘Adam, I want you to do something for me.’

Adam said, ‘Gladly, Lord, what do You want me to do?’

God said, ‘Go down into that valley.’

Adam said, ‘What’s a valley?’

God explained it to him. Then God said, ‘Cross the river.’

Adam said, ‘What’s a river?’

God explained that to him and then said, ‘Go over to the hill…’

Adam said, ‘What is a hill?’

So God explained to Adam what a hill was. He told Adam, ‘On the other side of the hill you will find a cave.’

Adam said, ‘What’s a cave?’

After God explained, He said, ‘In the cave, you will find a woman.’

Adam said, ‘What’s a woman?’

So God explained that to him, too. Then, God said, ‘I want you to reproduce.’

Adam said, ‘How do I do that?’

God first said (under His breath), ‘Geez…..’ And then, just like everything else, God explained that to Adam, as well.

So, Adam goes down into the valley, across the river and over the hill into the cave and finds the woman.

Then, in about 5 minutes, he was back.

God, His patience wearing thin, said angrily, ‘What is it now?’

And Adam said…


*

*


(YOU’RE GOING TO LOVE THIS!!!)

*

*


*

*

*

‘What’s a headache?’

311 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:55:00pm

re: #303 Racer X

I like you LVQ.

But when you act this way - it just makes people want to bust your balls MORE.

In case you had not noticed.

And they don’t dislike you - it’s more of a frat ball-busting party going on at your expense.

Dude I hadn’t been posting for several hours and there are 15 butthurt posts from this loser.

I don’t mind that he disagrees, it just shows the world how much of an imbecile he can actually be when he decides to play the fool, but he could at least quote me correctly.

312 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:55:06pm

re: #307 Walter L. Newton

Stick around for round eighteen.

FixT

313 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:55:07pm

re: #236 PT Barnum

I’ll see your Brass Monkey and raise you Brass in Pocket


[Video]

Fucking Chrissy Hynde. You all know she was married at one time to Ray Davies of the Kinks? Also that her whole band died basically.

314 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:55:37pm

re: #306 windsagio

Cato tried to bring back the fight earlier too. They both seem utterly unable to let go.

I tried to settle it by explaining what is an evaluation algorithm is?

I’ll do it again. Suppose you have a bunch of diagrams (think formal sums of links) constructed out of a few generators (think crossings) modulo some relations (think the HOMFLY relations). There are two obvious questions. Are these rules enough to reduce every link to a constant times the empty diagram? Does any way of reducing a given diagram give the same answer? Usually the former question is substantially easier than the latter. Often the first question is answered by giving an explicit algorithm for simplifying diagrams.

See, it’s simple.

315 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:55:42pm

re: #306 windsagio

Cato tried to bring back the fight earlier too. They both seem utterly unable to let go.

One takes the other waaaaaayyyy to seriously.

316 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:56:01pm

re: #273 zora

my older sister took me to my first concert. prince at the richmond colosseum. he was amazing. i bought a poster of him in a g street. i was indignant for weeks because my father confiscated it. he still has the letter i wrote him about how if i was a boy he would have let me hang up a bikini pic and how he was oppressing me.

Love it!!!

317 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:56:04pm

re: #308 PT Barnum

Way to keep it classy LVQ.

He’s such a nice pleasant guy. I bet his 3rd grade class he teaches is so proud of him.

318 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:56:08pm

re: #315 Racer X

One takes the other waaayyy to seriously.

It’s entirely mutual :P

319 brownbagj  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:56:28pm

The probability of this running battle ending anytime soon is approaching zero.

320 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:56:36pm

re: #308 PT Barnum

Way to keep it classy LVQ.

You know, I think that after not being here for several hours and seeing thread after thread of his whining he deserves a little beating.

He is going to get much worse if he shows his useless ass up and decides to come out and play.

321 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:56:43pm

Man, SS is playing a SFZ!

You’ll never catch up at this rate!!!

322 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:56:51pm

Okay..now I’m really going to bed.. Tomorrow is another day.

323 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:57:14pm

re: #311 LudwigVanQuixote

He’s busting your balls and you play right into it.

324 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:57:21pm

Since I really don’t like watching two of my normally favorite lizards going at each other I’m going to talk about other stuff….

You know I chiefly remember my dad doing two things when I was young and in elementary school, one of them was reading “The Hobbit” and “Lord of the Rings” to me and my brother…. I don’ think we ever finished Two Towers, since my memories only go as far as Sam and Frodo threatening Golum.

Secondly I remember him playing through Legend of Zelda Link to the Past…. it was the only video game I ever remember him devoting a noticeable amount of time to….

325 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:57:22pm

re: #320 LudwigVanQuixote

you could be the better man you know. Sometimes the best way to win the fight is to let the other guys assholery hang in the wind.

326 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:57:26pm

re: #299 LudwigVanQuixote

It’s not a race.
I hope you are well.
This stuff, well, you are smart enough to know what it does to you.
Be well, my Dear Friend.

327 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:57:41pm

re: #320 LudwigVanQuixote

You know, I think that after not being here for several hours and seeing thread after thread of his whining he deserves a little beating.

He is going to get much worse if he shows his useless ass up and decides to come out and play.

If you don’t have anything better to do with your time, mate, go for it. If it were me, I’d get a hobby.

328 Kragar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:57:45pm

re: #319 brownbagj

The probability of this running battle ending anytime soon is approaching zero.

I imagine it goes a little something like this:

329 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:58:03pm

re: #319 brownbagj

The probability of this running battle ending anytime soon is approaching zero.

I keep walking away from it.

One look at the threads will show that, but I really am not interested in being misquoted in the same way the stalkers do.

That simply isn’t right.

330 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:58:03pm

re: #307 Walter L. Newton

Stick around for round two.

I think the bell just rung for that.

331 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:58:15pm

re: #324 jamesfirecat

your DAD? Damn now I feel old again.

332 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:58:19pm

re: #301 windsagio

and for SS:


[Video]

I’d mentioned it to her earlier >>

YES! I’m quite behind.

Love this!!!!

333 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:58:33pm

re: #323 Racer X

He’s busting your balls and you play right into it.

And I am going to play into it by kicking his shriveled little nuts up into his throat.

334 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:58:39pm

re: #317 NJDhockeyfan

He’s such a nice pleasant guy. I bet his 3rd grade class he teaches is so proud of him.

You’re not helping by flinging insults.

335 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:59:22pm

I just think its funny that they fight because they’re actually basically the same :p

(There, I’ve offended both sides!)

336 Ericus58  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:59:38pm

re: #272 windsagio

random:

WUB totally kills this song in Karaoke, I try to get him a lot.


[Video]

That song actually tugs at my heart a bit… I remember making a vow that my son would not experience that as I had.

/sheesh, old guys and their hangups…

337 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:59:41pm

re: #317 NJDhockeyfan

He’s such a nice pleasant guy. I bet his 3rd grade class he teaches is so proud of him.

What a lovely compliment.
//NOT//

338 brownbagj  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:59:46pm

re: #329 LudwigVanQuixote

Hey, I am just trying to bring a little laughter into this. Do you what you need to do. I would walk away - sooner or later it will die down.

But, you are your own person and must do what you feel is right.

339 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 8:59:46pm

re: #317 NJDhockeyfan

He’s such a nice pleasant guy. I bet his 3rd grade class he teaches is so proud of him.

Yeah, I water boarded people. Why don’t you just go to the stalker blog Puck?

340 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:00:01pm

re: #319 brownbagj

The probability of this running battle ending anytime soon is approaching zero.

It’ll end when Charles hands out a timeout.

341 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:00:06pm

Mah-om!

I can’t go to bed right now.

There is someone WRONG on the internet.

342 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:00:15pm

re: #331 windsagio

your DAD? Damn now I feel old again.

For playing Legend of Zelda or for leading us the Hobbit?

He was already more or less Horse-Shoe bald (that’s bald except for a horse shoe pattern of hair) by that point if it makes you feel any better….

343 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:00:23pm

re: #329 LudwigVanQuixote

I keep walking away from it.

One look at the threads will show that, but I really am not interested in being misquoted in the same way the stalkers do.

That simply isn’t right.

Bwahahahahaha! It’s OK for you to misquote others but when you get misquoted it burns you up.

What a maroon! Heh.

344 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:00:39pm

re: #342 jamesfirecat

Zelda… not just zelda, but Zelda 3!

345 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:00:42pm

re: #338 brownbagj

Hey, I am just trying to bring a little laughter into this. Do you what you need to do. I would walk away - sooner or later it will die down.

But, you are your own person and must do what you feel is right.

No it is humorous but there is an aspect of anger here in that Cato had been something of a friend that i stood up for in the past.

If he keeps asking for a fight, he will get one.

346 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:01:11pm

re: #343 NJDhockeyfan

You’re loving this, aren’t you. 2 people you don’t like fighting!

347 Kragar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:01:23pm

I must say, despite Sienna Miller being smoking hot as a brunette, the G.I. Joe movie was really quite the peace of crap.

348 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:01:44pm

re: #343 NJDhockeyfan

Bwahahahahaha! It’s OK for you to misquote others but when you get misquoted it burns you up.

What a maroon! Heh.

NO, I don’t think so, I certainly have never mischaracterized you. You and the Matrix are the two biggest wingnuts here.

349 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:02:02pm

re: #345 LudwigVanQuixote

Well, you DO know what I’d rather have…
And, I bet you’d prefer it too.
Although with another….

350 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:02:09pm

re: #339 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah, I water boarded people. Why don’t you just go to the stalker blog Puck?

That post was actually a lie. I know you aren’t a 3rd grade teacher. It sucks when people post lies about you doesn’t it?

351 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:02:10pm

re: #345 LudwigVanQuixote

No it is humorous but there is an aspect of anger here in that Cato had been something of a friend that i stood up for in the past.

If he keeps asking for a fight, he will get one.

I’m ready.

352 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:02:19pm

re: #346 windsagio

You’re loving this, aren’t you. 2 people you don’t like fighting!

Yes he is. Now tell me windy, honestly, do you remember him defending Rush and Beck?

353 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:02:41pm

re: #321 windsagio

Man, SS is playing a SFZ!

You’ll never catch up at this rate!!!

How far am I behind? I’m on the 2nd Bush song.

354 brownbagj  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:02:57pm

Two men enter. One man leave! Two men enter. One man leave!

355 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:03:07pm

re: #351 Cato the Elder

I’m ready.

Good,

First off if you want to snark that’s fine, but don’t misquote me and make straw men like one of the stalker gimps. It’s pretty pathetic.

356 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:03:08pm

re: #352 LudwigVanQuixote

Who? I’m a little (read: alot) tipsy right now so I don’t remember much.

357 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:03:18pm

re: #354 brownbagj

Two men enter. One man leave! Two men enter. One man leave!

BARTER TOWN!

358 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:03:30pm

re: #344 windsagio

Zelda… not just zelda, but Zelda 3!

Yeah I’ve actually been sort of “meh’ on the series lately, but I also recall “playing” Majora’s Mask with my brother, with the strategy guide in hand whenever it was needed.

I’m pretty sure I did the same thing for Orcarania of time.

He got Oracle of Seasons I got Oracle of Ages and we traded when we were done to play the linked games.

Haven’t played/watched Wind Waker or anything after it….

359 Kragar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:03:35pm

re: #354 brownbagj

Two men enter. One man leave! Two men enter. One man leave!

BUST A DEAL, FACE THE WHEEL! BUST A DEAL, FACE THE WHEEL!

360 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:03:48pm

re: #348 LudwigVanQuixote

NO, I don’t think so, I certainly have never mischaracterized you. You and the Matrix are the two biggest wingnuts here.

Where’s the links to all those lies you posted about me? Man up dude.

361 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:04:02pm

I wanna take part, but I can’t figure out any subjecct that keeps it even :p

PS: SS, you’re getting closer!!!

362 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:04:02pm

re: #356 windsagio

Who? I’m a little (read: alot) tipsy right now so I don’t remember much.

GASP!
Someone is *hic* Tipsy on this blog?
THE HORROR OF IT ALL!
///

363 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:04:17pm

re: #350 NJDhockeyfan

That post was actually a lie. I know you aren’t a 3rd grade teacher. It sucks when people post lies about you doesn’t it?

I have never lied about you. You have defended Rush and Beck before many times. I’ll just have to keep digging back to find them. But eventually, Charles will notice and remind you that even he called you on it.

364 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:04:18pm

re: #351 Cato the Elder

I’m ready.

Paul Dirac was a sissy… back to you.

365 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:04:34pm

re: #358 jamesfirecat

Never played anything after ‘link to the past’ >>

Old.

366 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:04:44pm

re: #232 Dark_Falcon

Thanks for that. Code Pink has made the same mistake many on the right have made (Yes, I know its much more widespread on the right, but its the same kind of error): They’ve decided to try to bulk up their organization by allying with evil people they should avoid.

I think in Code Pink’s case, they have identified the evil as righteous.

367 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:05:02pm

re: #364 Walter L. Newton

Paul Dirac was a sissy… back to you.

You think that is clever Walter. Wow.

368 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:05:35pm

re: #359 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

BUST A DEAL, FACE THE WHEEL! BUST A DEAL, FACE THE WHEEL!

Well then, can we tie Obama to a donkey, put a clown head over him and send him off to parts unknown?

/Entirely kidding

369 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:05:39pm

re: #357 Floral Giraffe

I get to play Tina Turner, you can pick your part.
LOL!

370 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:06:09pm

re: #363 LudwigVanQuixote

NJD is just one of those guys, we need a few talking-point echoers to not get chased off the blog, so we have to be nice, or at least tolerant :D

371 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:06:18pm

re: #359 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

BUST A DEAL, FACE THE WHEEL! BUST A DEAL, FACE THE WHEEL!

Bow to the Aes Sedai. Fear me, oh man….

372 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:06:47pm

re: #365 windsagio

Never played anything after ‘link to the past’ >>

Old.

Think about playing Majora’s Mask at some point….

It’s incredibly deep and for only having four Dungeons before you can go fight the boss (yes four, no seven dark crystals afterwards either) there’s a fucking lot of material crammed in there…. some of it… very… very poignant.

373 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:06:53pm

re: #352 LudwigVanQuixote

Yes he is. Now tell me windy, honestly, do you remember him defending Rush and Beck?

I guess you didn’t find shit, did you, just like I predicted? Now you are trying to get someone else to waste their time looking for something that isn’t there.

Ha ha ! You are so lame.

374 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:06:53pm

re: #367 LudwigVanQuixote

You think that is clever Walter. Wow.

Evidently… it diverted your attention. Sort of like a geek magnet.

375 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:06:58pm

Where did you go Cato? Pretty simple request.

You want to be clown yourself that’s fine, but hours of butthurt from you is not.

You want to troll me that’s fine too. You will just end up be looked upon like Walter - you know irrelevant and kinda dumb.

376 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:07:53pm

re: #371 Floral Giraffe

Bow to the Aes Sedai. Fear me, oh man…

I don’t suppose you’re Green Aja by any chance?

377 Kragar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:07:55pm

re: #371 Floral Giraffe

Bow to the Aes Sedai. Fear me, oh man…

Kneel before the Lord Dragon, or you will be knelt.

378 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:08:04pm

re: #363 LudwigVanQuixote

I have never lied about you. You have defended Rush and Beck before many times. I’ll just have to keep digging back to find them. But eventually, Charles will notice and remind you that even he called you on it.

Proof! Where is it?

379 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:08:11pm

re: #375 LudwigVanQuixote

FEISTY!

380 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:08:51pm

re: #375 LudwigVanQuixote

Where did you go Cato? Pretty simple request.

You want to be clown yourself that’s fine, but hours of butthurt from you is not.

You want to troll me that’s fine too. You will just end up be looked upon like Walter - you know irrelevant and kinda dumb.

Define the Valenzetti Equation?

381 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:08:55pm

re: #375 LudwigVanQuixote

I am SO tempted to call you…
It’s not even funny.
re: #377 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Yes, Dear, Sir.
(Well, except YOU’re not my Sir…)

382 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:08:57pm

Golf can best be defined as an endless series of tragedies obscured by the occasional miracle, followed by a good beverage.

383 brownbagj  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:09:06pm

Remember where you are. This is Thunderdome. Death is listening, and will take the first man who screams.

384 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:09:52pm

re: #373 NJDhockeyfan

I guess you didn’t find shit, did you, just like I predicted? Now you are trying to get someone else to waste their time looking for something that isn’t there.

Ha ha ! You are so lame.

No I just simply do not have all the patience to go back through all of your old posts. It takes too long for the pages to load for me to waste hours looking. Though I am shocked that you are denying your own words.

385 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:10:00pm

re: #381 Floral Giraffe

I am SO tempted to call you…
It’s not even funny.
re: #377 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Yes, Dear, Sir.
(Well, except YOU’re not my Sir…)

Well, wasn’t that a mess?
Yes, it was!

386 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:10:07pm

re: #297 LudwigVanQuixote

tl;dr

Like most of your earnest posts.

You should get yourself a radio talk show. I’m sure you would humiliate and abash your critics with their lack of geometry and algebra.

You know who you remind me of? Ingatius J. Reilly, the hero of the greatest American picaresque novel, “A Confederacy of Dunces”.

Consider yourself the chief dunce.

387 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:10:18pm

re: #366 SanFranciscoZionist

I think in Code Pink’s case, they have identified the evil as righteous.

Quite Concur.

388 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:10:37pm

re: #382 Racer X

Golf can best be defined as an endless series of tragedies obscured by the occasional miracle, followed by a good beverage.

No, Golf can best be defined by this cartoon…

389 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:10:38pm

Golf! You hit down to make the ball go up. You swing left and the ball goes right. The lowest score wins. And on top of that, the winner buys the drinks.

390 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:11:12pm

re: #380 Walter L. Newton

Define the Valenzetti Equation?

What are you talking about? I have never heard of it.

391 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:11:21pm

Golf is harder than baseball. In golf, you have to play your foul balls.

392 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:11:39pm

re: #389 Racer X

And, if you’re lucky, a pissed off thrown club, kills a duck!
///

393 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:12:06pm

re: #386 Cato the Elder

Alright Cato you enjoy picking fights, now you have successfully ended a friendship and you have one. Why did you do so?

What is the point?

394 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:12:15pm

I’ve never gotten the ‘people fighting? TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE AS LOUD AS YOU CAN!’ thing.

Seems silly.

395 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:12:18pm

re: #384 LudwigVanQuixote

No I just simply do not have all the patience to go back through all of your old posts. It takes too long for the pages to load for me to waste hours looking. Though I am shocked that you are denying your own words.

I am just letting you know that you are a proven blatant liar. You are the one who posted those lies and you can’t prove what you posted. Now everyone else knows you are a fool.

396 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:12:29pm

re: #392 Floral Giraffe

And, if you’re lucky, a pissed off thrown club, kills a duck!
///

That sounds like a fowl turn of fate to me.

397 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:12:53pm

re: #390 LudwigVanQuixote

What are you talking about? I have never heard of it.

Wikipedia compares Enzo Valenzetti’s mathematical work to the “Drake Equation”. Those who remember Enzo and his mathematical rigor will consider this an absurd insult to his name, as it is impossible to know any of the terms in the Drake Equation, thus any quantitative values derived from it are purely speculation. Alas, we must assign blame only to the Internet itself, where anyone may claim to be an expert on any subject.

[Link: www.valenzettifoundation.org…]

398 Ericus58  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:12:59pm

Jesus freakin’ Christmas….

I came on tonight to enjoy some music and laughs… but somehow it got all downer.

Is this really what it’s like after dark here?!

Meh.

To all I wish a good night and take care.
Everyone.

399 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:13:02pm

re: #394 windsagio

I’ve never gotten the ‘people fighting? TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE AS LOUD AS YOU CAN!’ thing.

Seems silly.

LaLaLaLa, I can’t HEAR you!

400 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:13:10pm

David Letterman’s Top Ten Reasons Why Golf Is Better Than Sex……

#10… A below par performance is considered damn good.
#09…. You can stop in the middle and have a cheeseburger and a couple of beers.
#08… It’s much easier to find the sweet spot.
#07… Foursomes are encouraged.
#06… You can still make money doing it as a senior.
#05…. Three times a day is possible.
#04… Your partner doesn’t hire a lawyer if you play with someone else.
#03… If you live in Florida, you can do it almost every day.
#02… You don’t have to cuddle with your partner when you’re finished.

And the NUMBER ONE reason why golf is better than sex…

#01… When your equipment gets old you can replace it!

401 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:13:31pm

re: #395 NJDhockeyfan

I am just letting you know that you are a proven blatant liar. You are the one who posted those lies and you can’t prove what you posted. Now everyone else knows you are a fool.

NO I am not proven any sort of liar.

The only one lying is you. But is to be expected. It also really doesn’t matter because everyone else knows your posts too.

402 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:14:33pm

re: #398 Ericus58

Jesus freakin’ Christmas…

I came on tonight to enjoy some music and laughs… but somehow it got all downer.

Is this really what it’s like after dark here?!

Meh.

To all I wish a good night and take care.
Everyone.

I think I’ll need to break out the Simple Plan again at this rate….

403 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:14:46pm

re: #394 windsagio

I’ve never gotten the ‘people fighting? TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE AS LOUD AS YOU CAN!’ thing.

Seems silly.

Really silly.

Although I’ve fallen into the trap once or twice and felt really stupid afterwards. What do I care what anonymous people on the internet say or think about me?

404 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:14:48pm

re: #397 Walter L. Newton

Wikipedia compares Enzo Valenzetti’s mathematical work to the “Drake Equation”. Those who remember Enzo and his mathematical rigor will consider this an absurd insult to his name, as it is impossible to know any of the terms in the Drake Equation, thus any quantitative values derived from it are purely speculation. Alas, we must assign blame only to the Internet itself, where anyone may claim to be an expert on any subject.

[Link: www.valenzettifoundation.org…]

OK great? So it isn’t a real equation. Let me guess you picked up on it from some show like Lost?

405 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:15:47pm

re: #393 LudwigVanQuixote

Alright Cato you enjoy picking fights, now you have successfully ended a friendship and you have one. Why did you do so?

What is the point?

Critiquing you means, apparently, that one can’t also be your friend.

I still consider myself your friend. It is you who have called me a “gimp”, twice.

Reconcile that in your mind with your upcoming Shabbos. Reflect upon it. And then get back to me.

406 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:15:57pm

re: #404 LudwigVanQuixote

OK great? So it isn’t a real equation. Let me guess you picked up on it from some show like Lost?

You have no sense of humor… but I suspect that a whole lot of people are laughing right now… Ludwig… it was humor… a joke… lighten up… you’re gonna bust a aneurism.

407 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:15:57pm

re: #403 Racer X

Once or twiccew :D

BTW, FEELIN GOOD!

I almsot never drink, so I”m a cheap date :D

408 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:16:32pm

re: #401 LudwigVanQuixote

NO I am not proven any sort of liar.

The only one lying is you. But is to be expected. It also really doesn’t matter because everyone else knows your posts too.

Sure they do. If I did post that bullshit you claimed there would have been others posting the proof already. You already looked and found nothing. Now you won’t man up and admit you were wrong. You are such a pussy.

409 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:16:46pm

re: #404 LudwigVanQuixote

OK great? So it isn’t a real equation. Let me guess you picked up on it from some show like Lost?

In fact, looking a little further,

Though shrouded in mystery, this much is known about the Valenzetti Equation: it is a mathematical calculation designed to predict nothing less than the exact number of years left before the extinction of the human race given the current rate of technological advancement.

So go figure its a bunch of crap.

Walter you really are a jerk.

410 Kragar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:17:02pm

Here is an equation I think most of us can agree on:

(Internet + anonymous + conflict)/accountability = RAGE BONERS!!!!

411 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:17:14pm

This is really intensely unpleasant.

412 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:17:27pm

re: #407 windsagio

Once or twiccew :D

BTW, FEELIN GOOD!

I almsot never drink, so I”m a cheap date :D

Then you’re gonna feel like shit in the morning. I wish people wouldn’t do what you are doing unless they are professionals… like I was at one time. Look Windy, if you want me to teach you how to drink like a pro… I could work it out for ya.

413 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:17:57pm

re: #410 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Here is an equation I think most of us can agree on:

(Internet + anonymous + conflict)/accountability = RAGE BONERS!!!

Penny Arcade figured this out well before you….

[Link: www.penny-arcade.com…]

414 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:18:09pm

re: #409 LudwigVanQuixote

In fact, looking a little further,

So go figure its a bunch of crap.

Walter you really are a jerk.

LOL… find your sense of humor Ludwig…

415 freetoken  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:18:20pm

re: #397 Walter L. Newton]

… as it is impossible to know any of the terms in the Drake Equation, thus any quantitative values derived from it are purely speculation.


Why do you say this Walter?

For example, the fraction of stars which have planets will have a good estimation by the time the Kepler Mission is complete.

416 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:19:09pm

re: #410 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Here is an equation I think most of us can agree on:

(Internet + anonymous + conflict)/accountability = RAGE BONERS!!!

You have won the internets!

Johnny, tell him what his prize is.

417 Kragar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:19:21pm

re: #413 jamesfirecat

Penny Arcade figured this out well before you…

[Link: www.penny-arcade.com…]

I never said I came up with it, you fuckwad, LEARN TO FUCKING READ!
/

See, I even provided a proof!

418 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:19:26pm

re: #412 Walter L. Newton

I’ve had ONE (and a half).

Just a lightweight :D

419 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:19:28pm

re: #409 LudwigVanQuixote

In fact, looking a little further,

So go figure its a bunch of crap.

Walter you really are a jerk.

Are you familiar with the Doomsday Argument?

“Denoting by N the total number of humans who were ever or will ever be born, the Copernican principle suggests that humans are equally likely (along with the other N − 1 humans) to find themselves at any position n[dubious – discuss], so humans assume that our fractional position f = n/N is uniformly distributed on the interval (0, 1] prior to learning our absolute position.”

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

420 brownbagj  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:19:53pm

re: #416 Racer X

His prize is a free account on an anonymous message board!

421 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:19:54pm

re: #410 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Here is an equation I think most of us can agree on:

(Internet + anonymous + conflict)/accountability = RAGE BONERS!!!

Agreed. I’m going to start reporting posts and hope Charles shows up.

422 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:20:10pm

re: #415 freetoken

]


Why do you say this Walter?

For example, the fraction of stars which have planets will have a good estimation by the time the Kepler Mission is complete.

I didn’t say that… I was quoting Enzo Valenzetti son, Enrico.

423 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:20:11pm
424 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:20:20pm

re: #414 Walter L. Newton

LOL… find your sense of humor Ludwig…

… and might I add - when LVQ does in fact find it, anonymous people busting his balls in cyberspace will not matter at all to him.

425 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:20:40pm

re: #421 Dark_Falcon

this is hardly reportable man, not like say matrix freakouts, for instance.

426 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:20:42pm

re: #421 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. I’m going to start reporting posts and hope Charles shows up.

Oh great and noble lizard we beseech you….

(With that I’m going to bed, as I have to be up in seven hours…)

427 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:21:03pm

re: #421 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. I’m going to start reporting posts and hope Charles shows up.

DF I like you…… just stoppit.

428 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:22:52pm

It had to be posted.

429 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:22:58pm

re: #426 jamesfirecat

Somebody with art skills should design and post teh Shrine to Charles (tm)

430 Kragar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:23:09pm

Speaking of the Matrix, in a real world scenario, if a mysterious stranger offered you a magic pill to show you how deep the rabbit hole really went, how often do you think it was just some guy who was slipping you a roofie?

431 freetoken  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:23:26pm

re: #422 Walter L. Newton

I didn’t say that… I was quoting Enzo Valenzetti son, Enrico.

ok. It sounded weird to me.

432 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:23:26pm

re: #414 Walter L. Newton

LOL… find your sense of humor Ludwig…

No Walter I don’t a sense of humor about certain things. Amongst them is my hatred of you and the permanent hatred that Cato has earned himself.

I mean really comparing me to a Nazi technocrat is going to make me pleased? Writing like a stalker gimp for thread after thread purposefully trolling is helpful?

Really, I do see it and I am sure that you think this is a hoot. Good for you.

It only shows you really are an asshole.

433 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:24:02pm

Back at the ranch:

Hawking spurns God: Universe just happened

In a new book called “The Grand Design”, however, co-written with Leonard Mlodinow, Hawking seems to explicitly reject the idea that God woke up one day and said “Abracadabra.”
434 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:24:11pm

re: #423 LudwigVanQuixote

Cato, you compared me to a Nazi technocrat the other night and now you are telling me what to do on Shabbos?

Cato, in the real world, you would be asking to loose teeth. I am not threatening you, but you do realize that you really are picking a fight? You get that right? I suppose the internet makes commandos out of us all. I’m sure you think that deeply insulting me is funny. I’m sure you enjoy your little laugh.

Fine. It makes you an utter asshole, and I will treat you as such from now on. Go fuck off.

No, I called you a technocrat, and pointed out that the Nazis were also fond of those guys.

What you think of me is none of my goddamn business.

435 Political Atheist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:24:12pm

Ludwig-Seen this?

436 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:24:25pm

re: #432 LudwigVanQuixote

No Walter I don’t a sense of humor about certain things. Amongst them is my hatred of you and the permanent hatred that Cato has earned himself.

I mean really comparing me to a Nazi technocrat is going to make me pleased? Writing like a stalker gimp for thread after thread purposefully trolling is helpful?

Really, I do see it and I am sure that you think this is a hoot. Good for you.

It only shows you really are an asshole.

When did I compare you to a Nazi technocrat? I wouldn’t do something like that.

437 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:24:45pm

re: #432 LudwigVanQuixote

I sent you a mail.
*smooch*

438 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:24:46pm

re: #427 Mr Pancakes

DF I like you… just stoppit.

Sorry, I’m just getting annoyed is all.

439 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:24:58pm

re: #434 Cato the Elder

No, I called you a technocrat, and pointed out that the Nazis were also fond of those guys.

What you think of me is none of my goddamn business.

Quite an equivocation. Cato. You write like one of the stalkers and you think it is funny.

440 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:25:38pm

Oops!

Drama Above Ground as Chilean Miners Await Rescue

Yonni Barrios may have been feeling trapped long before a landslide sealed him inside a Chilean gold mine last month.

As Barrios awaited rescue along with 32 other miners, his wife and his mistress met each other thousands of feet above, at a vigil for the men stuck in the mine. Marta Salinas, 56, says she heard the other woman calling her husband’s name as families gathered to pray for the workers.

Salinas told told The Sun in London she was “horrified” but plans to keep her man. “Barrios is my husband. He loves me, and I am his devoted wife. This woman has no legitimacy,” she told the British paper.

But the other woman, Susana Valenzuela, said she and the trapped miner will stay together. “We are in love,” she told the paper. “I’ll wait for him.”

441 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:25:49pm

When it comes to changing hearts and minds on some subjects, I am reminded of some very wise words from Phil Plait.

442 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:25:58pm

re: #436 Walter L. Newton

When did I compare you to a Nazi technocrat? I wouldn’t do something like that.

No Cato did. You know he did and you are playing along with this. That is the root of why he is persona non grata and will continue to be.

443 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:26:15pm

re: #432 LudwigVanQuixote

No Walter I don’t a sense of humor about certain things. Amongst them is my hatred of you and the permanent hatred that Cato has earned himself.

I mean really comparing me to a Nazi technocrat is going to make me pleased? Writing like a stalker gimp for thread after thread purposefully trolling is helpful?

Really, I do see it and I am sure that you think this is a hoot. Good for you.

It only shows you really are an asshole.

He never called you a Nazi. That was Bagua.

444 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:27:21pm

re: #434 Cato the Elder


What you think of me is none of my goddamn business.

Just wanted to day that I consider this to be a positive affirmation, even though in this context, it isn’t used as one.

445 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:27:51pm

re: #443 Dark_Falcon

Seriously DF, just stay out of the way. Let them have it out, its what they both want.

Nothing real to talk about anyways.

446 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:27:56pm

Go away!

Just go over to the stalker blog!

*tears*

I hate you you!

447 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:28:30pm

re: #428 Racer X

That joynt is off the hook. I’ve played that song for lots of people from ages 60 to 16 and not one person yet has disliked it.

448 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:28:51pm

re: #442 LudwigVanQuixote

No Cato did. You know he did and you are playing along with this. That is the root of why he is persona non grata and will continue to be.

Ludwig… I have been making some humorous comments related to “cod” algebraic material in hopes that you would lighten up… I am far from arguing any points with you. Evidently humor is not going to work.

449 Kragar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:29:04pm

re: #446 Racer X

Go away!

Just go over to the stalker blog!

*tears*

I hate you you!

450 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:29:13pm

re: #445 windsagio

Seriously DF, just stay out of the way. Let them have it out, its what they both want.

Nothing real to talk about anyways.

What are you drinking?

451 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:29:16pm

re: #424 Racer X

… and might I add - when LVQ does in fact find it, anonymous people busting his balls in cyberspace will not matter at all to him.

No racer, this is about more than ball busting. Cato knows full well where and when he went over the line. The fact that he continues on his childish rant for thread after thread really only means that he meant to go over it.

My emnity is quite final.

Walter would be wise to stay out of it. So would DF. However, neither are that wise.

452 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:29:29pm

re: #436 Walter L. Newton

When did I compare you to a Nazi technocrat? I wouldn’t do something like that.

Don’t worry about it Walter. He just makes shit up as he goes. Here’s a video explaining it:

453 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:29:59pm

re: #443 Dark_Falcon

He never called you a Nazi. That was Bagua.

Read the other night’s thread and stay out of it DF. Really, you magical balance fairy stuff is not called for.

454 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:30:50pm

re: #451 LudwigVanQuixote

No racer, this is about more than ball busting. Cato knows full well where and when he went over the line. The fact that he continues on his childish rant for thread after thread really only means that he meant to go over it.

My emnity is quite final.

Walter would be wise to stay out of it. So would DF. However, neither are that wise.

Sometimes my irritation overwhelms my good sense. I’ll try to stay clear though.

455 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:30:54pm

re: #438 Dark_Falcon

Sorry, I’m just getting annoyed is all.

Don’t blame you. I am pretty damn annoyed myself.

456 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:30:56pm

re: #452 NJDhockeyfan

Don’t worry about it Walter. He just makes shit up as he goes. Here’s a video explaining it:


[Video]

No cato did and he just admitted it. But you are right, this has become childish. I am out. I really am. You children play your playground politics later.

457 brownbagj  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:31:06pm

So, how about those college football games on tonight?

458 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:31:37pm

re: #450 Walter L. Newton

Coffee-infused vodka and diet coke! I’m done tho, resisting having another, nobody likes hangovers :D

459 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:31:48pm

re: #457 brownbagj

So, how about those college football games on tonight?

I hate football.

460 brownbagj  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:32:16pm

re: #459 Walter L. Newton

American or soccer?

461 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:33:01pm

re: #455 SanFranciscoZionist

Don’t blame you. I am pretty damn annoyed myself.

Hey you, how have you been? When does the new job begin?

462 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:33:02pm

re: #460 brownbagj

American or soccer?

I don’t like sports period.

463 Kragar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:33:03pm

re: #457 brownbagj

So, how about those college football games on tonight?

I’m a big fan of [insert local team here]. I was really impressed by [insert star name here]. He really made the day when he scored that [hit/run/touchdown/goal].

464 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:33:09pm

re: #456 LudwigVanQuixote

No cato did and he just admitted it. But you are right, this has become childish. I am out. I really am. You children play your playground politics later.

It was so nice and peaceful before you showed up. Go crawl back to your cave.

465 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:33:09pm

re: #444 eclectic infidel

Just wanted to day that I consider this to be a positive affirmation, even though in this context, it isn’t used as one.

That was a quote from my dear departed friend, Moses, a convert (for reasons known only to himself) to Russian Orthodoxy, a one-time monk, father of three children, and one of the funniest and smartest people I ever knew.

When someone would carry rumors to his ears - and try living in a small Maine town with two dependent kids, an estranged crack-addicted wife living in Florida, and being a converted Russian Orthodox former monk, and see if you don’t get rumors - he would say that:

“What other people think of me is none of my damned business!”

466 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:33:44pm

Just got this in an email - not sure how accurate it is.

MEXICO IS ANGRY!

The shoe is on the other foot and the Mexicans from the State of Sonora, Mexico do not like it. Can you believe the nerve of these people? It’s almost funny.

The State of Sonora is angry at the influx of Mexicans into Mexico. Nine state legislators from the Mexican State of Sonora traveled to Tucson to complain about Arizona’s new employer crackdown on illegals from Mexico. It seems that many Mexican illegals are returning to their hometowns and the officials in the Sonora state government are ticked off.

A delegation of nine state legislators from Sonora was in Tucson on Tuesday to state that Arizona’s new Employer Sanctions Law will have a devastating effect on the Mexican state. At a news conference, the legislators said that Sonora, - Arizona’s southern neighbor - made up of mostly small towns - cannot handle the demand for housing, jobs and schools that it will face as Mexican workers return to their hometowns from the USA without jobs or money.

The Arizona law, which took effect Jan. 1, punishes Arizona employers who knowingly hire individuals without valid legal documents to work in the United States. Penalties include suspension of, or loss of, their business license.

The Mexican legislators are angry because their own citizens are returning to their hometowns, placing a burden on THEIR state government. ‘How can Arizona pass a law like this?’ asked Mexican Rep Leticia Amparano-Gamez, who represents Nogales. ‘There is not one person living in Sonora who does not have a friend or relative working in Arizona,’ she said, speaking in Spanish. ‘Mexico is not prepared for this, for the tremendous problems it will face as more and more Mexicans working in Arizona and who were sending money to their families return to their home-towns in Sonora without jobs,’ she said. ‘We are one family, socially and economically,’ she said of the people of Sonora and Arizona.

467 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:33:48pm

re: #458 windsagio

Coffee-infused vodka and diet coke! I’m done tho, resisting having another, nobody likes hangovers :D

Of course a LIB would infuse COFFEE and DIET into an otherwise acceptable drink.

468 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:34:33pm

re: #467 Mr Pancakes

Lol, you know how it is :D

The coffee vodka is actually damn good, I’m surprised!

469 brownbagj  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:34:45pm

re: #463 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

The team from my local regional area is superior to the team from your local regional area.

Some company has that on a t-shirt.

470 brownbagj  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:35:33pm

re: #462 Walter L. Newton

Do you understand them? Have you studied them?

If not, how can you say you hate them?

/

471 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:36:14pm

The impassioned vs. the stoic.

With a little rewrite it could be a Python skit.

472 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:36:25pm

re: #470 brownbagj

Do you understand them? Have you studied them?

If not, how can you say you hate them?

/

Read my lips. See how easy that was to say it.

473 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:36:49pm

New Immigration Laws: Read to the bottom or you will miss the message…

1. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.

2. All ballots will be in this nation’s language.

3. All government business will be conducted in our language.

4. Non-residents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are here.

5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office.

6. Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs. Any burden will be deported.

7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount at least equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.

8. If foreigners come here and buy land… options will be restricted. Certain parcels including waterfront property are reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.

9. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving of a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies. These will lead to deportation.

10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be actively hunted & when caught, sent to jail until your deportation can be arranged. All assets will be taken from you.

Too strict?

The Above laws are current immigration laws of MEXICO!

474 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:37:05pm

re: #465 Cato the Elder

That was a quote from my dear departed friend, Moses, a convert (for reasons known only to himself) to Russian Orthodoxy, a one-time monk, father of three children, and one of the funniest and smartest people I ever knew.

When someone would carry rumors to his ears - and try living in a small Maine town with two dependent kids, an estranged crack-addicted wife living in Florida, and being a converted Russian Orthodox former monk, and see if you don’t get rumors - he would say that:

“What other people think of me is none of my damned business!”

This line was told to me by my ex-wife, who is now my best friend, when I expressed intimidation about entering the dating scene again. And here I am, a couple months later, in the beginning of what seems to be a beautiful relationship.

475 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:37:15pm

re: #455 SanFranciscoZionist

Hey, how is your MIL doing?
Best wishes…

476 brownbagj  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:37:21pm

re: #472 Walter L. Newton

Read my lips.

Just don’t say no new taxes.

477 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:39:55pm

re: #466 Racer X

Just got this in an email - not sure how accurate it is.

Heh. Don’t worry about it, Obama ordered a surge to go protect the border.

Arizona Now Has ‘Whopping 30’ National Guard Troops and 15 Billboard Signs Warning Citizens About Drug Cartels Operating on Public Lands

Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu said requests by Arizona law enforcement personnel and Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) for 3,000 National Guard troops along the state’s border with Mexico have been answered so far with 1 percent of that number deployed there this week.

“We have a whopping 30 [National Guard troops] this week that are showing up,” Babeu told CNSNews.com. “It’s less than a half-hearted measure designed to fail.”

But the federal Bureau of Land Management (BLM) has placed 15 signs along a 60-mile stretch of Interstate 8 that links San Diego with Phoenix and Tucson warning travelers of drug cartels and human trafficking operations.

“DANGER – PUBLIC WARNING, TRAVEL NOT RECOMMENDED,” read the signs placed along Interstate 8. “Visitors May Encounter Armed Criminals and Smuggling Vehicles Traveling at High Rates of Speed. Stay Away From Trash, Clothing, Backpacks, and Abandoned Vehicles.”

“BLM Encourages Visitors To Use Public Land North of Interstate 8,” the signs say.

“I think the American people are outraged that we can fight wars half-way around the world, send our nation’s treasury and our most precious resources – our American heroes that serve in the military — and yet here in our own country somehow they believe it’s okay for us not to have a secure border,” Said Sheriff Babeu.

“And that it’s okay to put up signs in my county and parts of America to surrender parts of our country to foreign born criminals,” Babeu added, “warning our own American citizens to stay out.”

478 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:40:03pm

re: #473 Racer X

I do like that you ppointed out that there was a special kicker :p

479 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:40:24pm

re: #477 NJDhockeyfan

Fuck Arizona. Racist bastards.

480 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:41:42pm

OK, you fun loving LGF’rs.
Play nicely, or beat the crap out of each other.
Just, well, TRY to do it with love, OK?
Laters.

481 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:42:26pm

re: #286 Dark_Falcon

How so?

Because the pre-WWI Europeans believed in love, justice, and force, in that order, and when they came to die in agony on Flanders’ fields for nothing and again nothing, except to hold or take or retake a few yards of poisoned ground, within sight of a medieval parish church that had stood there since before their grandfather’s grandfather’s grandfather’s grandfather was born, they took refuge in Mommy.

Ecce homo!

482 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:42:27pm

re: #466 Racer X

Would not put much faith in it.

The problem in Mexico right now is that the place is about to become Iraq of 3 years ago with narco gangs playing the role of depraved killers. The economy there sucks worse than here, yet people are leaving the US because they have a family network that will support them there that doesn’t exist here.

The next wave to come across our border could be a new phenomenon for us - refugees crossing a land border. We are used to processing refugees off of planes and boats.

483 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:43:00pm

Goodnight. Sleep well everyone.

484 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:43:29pm

re: #473 Racer X

New Immigration Laws: Read to the bottom or you will miss the message…

1. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.

2. All ballots will be in this nation’s language.

3. All government business will be conducted in our language.

4. Non-residents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are here.

5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office.

6. Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs. Any burden will be deported.

7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount at least equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.

8. If foreigners come here and buy land… options will be restricted. Certain parcels including waterfront property are reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.

9. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving of a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies. These will lead to deportation.

10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be actively hunted & when caught, sent to jail until your deportation can be arranged. All assets will be taken from you.

Too strict?

The Above laws are current immigration laws of MEXICO!

Some of those are justifiable and some are bogus.

485 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:44:11pm

re: #481 Cato the Elder

Because the pre-WWI Europeans believed in love, justice, and force, in that order, and when they came to die in agony on Flanders’ fields for nothing and again nothing, except to hold or take or retake a few yards of poisoned ground, within sight of a medieval parish church that had stood there since before their grandfather’s grandfather’s grandfather’s grandfather was born, they took refuge in Mommy.

Ecce homo!

Yeah, I can see that.

486 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:44:19pm

re: #480 Floral Giraffe

Play nicely, or beat the crap out of each other.
Just, well, TRY to do it with love, OK?

I knew you were kinky, I just didn’t know how kinky you were.

487 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:45:15pm

re: #479 windsagio

Fuck Arizona. Racist bastards.

Any comment on the laws of Mexico?

488 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:45:46pm

PA Honors Mother for Raising Killers, Human Rights Groups Attend


As direct negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority began this week in Washington, the PA gave an award to a woman for raising four sons who all murdered Israelis in terrorist attacks.

PA Minister of Prisoners Affairs Issa Karake gave the “Shield of Resoluteness and Giving” to the mother of the Abu Hamid brothers, four of whom have been sentenced to life in prison for terrorism, in a ceremony reported by the PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida and translated by Palestinian Media Watch. A fifth was killed fighting Israel in 1994.

The woman was referred to by PA media only as Umm Yusef, “mother of Yusef,” and not by her given name. She was also referred to as “Khansa of Palestine,” a reference to the legend of a woman from the days of the beginning of Islam, who rejoiced when her four sons were all killed in battle.

Umm Yusef Abu Hamid’s sons all took part in terrorist attacks in which innocent Israeli civilians were murdered.

Karake praised the Abu Hamid family as “a model of willpower and of the struggle for the independence of Palestine.” He was accompanied by other PA representatives and by representatives of PA “human rights” groups.

I’m sure this will get mentioned at the peace talks very soon.

489 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:46:00pm

re: #461 eclectic infidel

Hey you, how have you been? When does the new job begin?

It’s started. Lot of work, but the kids are good kids. I’m kind of wrecked, though.

490 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:46:02pm

re: #487 Racer X

I would need proof that they were real to comment :p

(no offense)

491 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:46:18pm

re: #487 Racer X

Fuck Mexico. Xenophobic bastards.

492 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:47:25pm

re: #482 karmic_inquisitor

Would not put much faith in it.

The problem in Mexico right now is that the place is about to become Iraq of 3 years ago with narco gangs playing the role of depraved killers. The economy there sucks worse than here, yet people are leaving the US because they have a family network that will support them there that doesn’t exist here.

The next wave to come across our border could be a new phenomenon for us - refugees crossing a land border. We are used to processing refugees off of planes and boats.

Bingo!

The corrupt government in Mexico has been completely happy to let those poor people travel right on up into America. Now the government is crumbling and the world economy is in the dumps. Mexico is in a world of hurt.

493 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:47:48pm

re: #487 Racer X

I might add that it wouldn’t negate AZ’s history of seriously messed up crap either.

(Altho I’m glad tosee from the pages that Joe Arpaio might finally get nailed for his constant abuses of civil rights)

494 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:47:58pm

re: #473 Racer X

New Immigration Laws: Read to the bottom or you will miss the message…

1. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.

2. All ballots will be in this nation’s language.

3. All government business will be conducted in our language.

4. Non-residents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are here.

5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office.

6. Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs. Any burden will be deported.

7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount at least equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.

8. If foreigners come here and buy land… options will be restricted. Certain parcels including waterfront property are reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.

9. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving of a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies. These will lead to deportation.

10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be actively hunted & when caught, sent to jail until your deportation can be arranged. All assets will be taken from you.

Too strict?

The Above laws are current immigration laws of MEXICO!

I’ve always wanted to have an immigration system modeled on Mexico’s.

Much as I have wanted to have our religious freedoms modeled after those of Saudi Arabia.

495 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:48:33pm

re: #474 eclectic infidel

This line was told to me by my ex-wife, who is now my best friend, when I expressed intimidation about entering the dating scene again. And here I am, a couple months later, in the beginning of what seems to be a beautiful relationship.

Nice story! May it end with flowers.

496 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:48:43pm

re: #494 SanFranciscoZionist

the whole list sounds like one of those overforwarded possibly-accurate mass emails.

497 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:48:47pm

re: #477 NJDhockeyfan

Heh. Don’t worry about it, Obama ordered a surge to go protect the border.

Arizona Now Has ‘Whopping 30’ National Guard Troops and 15 Billboard Signs Warning Citizens About Drug Cartels Operating on Public Lands

Arizona’s GOP government is killing their tourist industry with their fear mongering.

Pitiful.

498 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:48:54pm

re: #475 Floral Giraffe

Hey, how is your MIL doing?
Best wishes…

Thanks. The sick one is in the hospital. The doctors are saying two to eight weeks left.

The less sick one is freaking out.

I am also freaking out.

499 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:49:43pm

re: #498 SanFranciscoZionist

Umm I hate to ask, but “You have 2 mother in laws?”

I feel I’ve missed something important.

500 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:50:04pm

re: #490 windsagio

I would need proof that they were real to comment :p

(no offense)

Snopes says “undetermined” and “research in progress”.

Since 2006 they have been researching I guess.

501 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:50:12pm

re: #473 Racer X

I’ll give you a little hint… visit snopes.com and read up on this… and then come back here and apologize.

502 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:50:59pm

re: #501 Walter L. Newton

re: #500 Racer X

503 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:51:05pm

re: #466 Racer X

And on the sonora thing…

[Link: www.snopes.com…]

Are you dropping this shit in here just to stir the pot?

504 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:51:13pm

re: #499 windsagio

Umm I hate to ask, but “You have 2 mother in laws?”

I feel I’ve missed something important.

yes you have. It’s a new modern, wonderful world!

505 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:51:37pm

re: #504 Stanley Sea

it really is!!

506 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:51:38pm

re: #494 SanFranciscoZionist

I’ve always wanted to have an immigration system modeled on Mexico’s.

Much as I have wanted to have our religious freedoms modeled after those of Saudi Arabia.

I’m not wanting to model anything after Mexico. It just really irks me when Mexican lawmakers come here and complain about our laws, when theirs are ten times worse. Fucking hypocrites.

507 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:51:53pm

re: #497 Stanley Sea

Arizona’s GOP government is killing their tourist industry with their fear mongering.

Pitiful.

Yup, not stopping all those murders happening by the drug gangs would make tourism so much better for Arizona.
/

508 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:52:26pm

re: #502 windsagio

re: #500 Racer X


[Video]

Windy… I have said this a thousand times… I have DSL up here in the mountains, and right now there are 5 different computers using the network wireless… videos won’t stream for me, and I’m not going to sit here waiting for it to download.

So, I don’t know what you posted… or what you are trying to say. I have an idea… just talk to me.

509 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:52:31pm

re: #503 Walter L. Newton

And on the sonora thing…

[Link: www.snopes.com…]

Are you dropping this shit in here just to stir the pot?

Yes!

The little dustup above was getting nasty.

510 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:53:06pm

re: #496 windsagio

the whole list sounds like one of those overforwarded possibly-accurate mass emails.

True, but Mexico does have a nasty history of human-rights abuses towards folks trying to cross the southern border. Also, there are restrictions on non-citizens owning land, although I would point out that this has a somewhat different social significance when you’re Mexico than when you’re the United States.

None of this matters a damn when it comes to the United States of America, justice for all, freedom, opportunity, and possible apple pie.

511 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:53:06pm

re: #509 Racer X

Yes!

The little dustup above was getting nasty.

So you idea for stopping one argument is to start another one?

512 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:53:17pm

re: #503 Walter L. Newton

And on the sonora thing…

[Link: www.snopes.com…]

Are you dropping this shit in here just to stir the pot?

[Link: www.snopes.com…]

513 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:53:26pm

re: #508 Walter L. Newton

I was just linking ‘synchronicity 2’ as I often do in that circumstance, nothing of import :D

“A humiliating kick in the crotch!” (random lyric, apropos of nothing)

514 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:54:08pm

re: #511 Walter L. Newton

So you idea for stopping one argument is to start another one?

I can handle it.

;-)

515 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:54:18pm

re: #499 windsagio

Umm I hate to ask, but “You have 2 mother in laws?”

I feel I’ve missed something important.

Well, you know how Heather had two mommies?

So does Mr. SFZ.

(He was raised by his mom and her partner, after mom and dad divorced.)

516 zora  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:55:21pm

nite, lizards.

517 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:55:32pm

re: #500 Racer X

Snopes says “undetermined” and “research in progress”.

Since 2006 they have been researching I guess.

I know #10 is bogus…….

I used to live and work in Mexico……. when you go down as a tourist, no one records your arrival in Mexico.

Gringo friends of mine have been caught with their FM-3 expired…….. they have to get it renewed with maybe a small fine. If you are caught working without an FM-3, the company gets a big fine…… no one goes to jail and has their assets taken away.

518 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:55:45pm

re: #506 Racer X

I’m not wanting to model anything after Mexico. It just really irks me when Mexican lawmakers come here and complain about our laws, when theirs are ten times worse. Fucking hypocrites.

Eh, they mostly don’t have a leg to stand on, but whatevah…

519 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:56:02pm

re: #506 Racer X

No kidding. Did you happen to catch that rather outrageous speech lately given by Presidente Calderón? Crazy stuff.

520 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:56:07pm

re: #513 windsagio

I was just linking ‘synchronicity 2’ as I often do in that circumstance, nothing of import :D

“A humiliating kick in the crotch!” (random lyric, apropos of nothing)

I got the two-step critters on computers, the 19 year old dude that lives here (family friend, don’t ask) on a computer and my girlfriend and myself on a computer. Five users on a standard DSL… nothing even fancy.

That’s the only thing I miss moving up here a year ago, I had broadband cable down hill and I had the fastest package they could sell me.

521 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:56:25pm

re: #507 NJDhockeyfan

Yup, not stopping all those murders happening by the drug gangs would make tourism so much better for Arizona.
/

Crime’s down in Arizona. Violent crime is down in Arizona. Tourists in Arizona seem to be perfectly safe in Arizona.

522 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:57:15pm

Stir, stir, stir.


There’s an old sea story about a ship’s Captain who inspected his sailors, and afterward told the first mate that his men smelled bad.

The Captain suggested perhaps it would help if the sailors would change underwear occasionally. The first mate responded, “Aye, aye sir, I’ll see to it immediately!”

The first mate went straight to the sailors berth deck and announced, “The Captain thinks you guys smell bad and wants you to change your underwear.” He continued, “Pittman, you change with Jones, McCarthy, you change with Witkowski, and Brown, you change with Schultz.”

THE MORAL OF THE STORY:
Someone may come along and promise “Change”, but don’t count on things smelling any better.

So how’s this “change ” thing working for YOU???

523 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:57:24pm

re: #515 SanFranciscoZionist

I did not know that! Thanks for sharing, now I feel like part of the ‘in’ crowd :D

524 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:57:37pm

re: #517 Mr Pancakes

I know #10 is bogus…

I used to live and work in Mexico… when you go down as a tourist, no one records your arrival in Mexico.

Gringo friends of mine have been caught with their FM-3 expired… they have to get it renewed with maybe a small fine. If you are caught working without an FM-3, the company gets a big fine… no one goes to jail and has their assets taken away.

Definitely, no one records your arrival. No one even looks at you as you cross the border going south.

The other way it takes longer. To put it mildly.

525 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:57:42pm

re: #492 Racer X

Bingo!

The corrupt government in Mexico has been completely happy to let those poor people travel right on up into America. Now the government is crumbling and the world economy is in the dumps. Mexico is in a world of hurt.

Well a lot of that history (and people’s feelings about it) are going to have to be shoved aside if the narco civil war escalates.

The US is going to have to figure out a few things, like are we going to turn away war refugees at the border, or are we going to set up camps for them? Are we going to occupy Mexican territory to set up camps in a humanitarian operation? Will we go the Somalia route and bring in forces to attempt to establish a peace? Will bringing in forces be exploited by the narcos as a means of stirring popular hatred towards American by exploiting the generations of propaganda that the government has relied on to mask its own corruption?

The Calderon government may dissolve in a few months. It certainly may simply lose control of the northern states well before that.

Americans haven’t given this much thought.

526 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 9:58:43pm

re: #519 Slumbering Behemoth

No kidding. Did you happen to catch that rather outrageous speech lately given by Presidente Calderón? Crazy stuff.

Heh.

and it continues… .

527 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:00:16pm

“You’re not supposed to use a lot of wasabi. It’s considered disrepectful. To the fish.”

“Isn’t it pretty much past caring?”

528 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:00:44pm

I’m going to bed and listen to the repeat of the Michael Medved radio show… night all.

529 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:01:29pm

re: #528 Walter L. Newton

I’m going to bed and listen to the repeat of the Michael Medved radio show… night all.

Say hi to Michael for us, and remind him that Brokeback Mountain did better than he anticipated.

530 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:01:29pm

re: #522 Racer X

So how’s this “change ” thing working for YOU???

Not so great. I’ve been Screaming for Change for a long time now, and haven’t gotten any.

531 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:02:13pm

re: #529 SanFranciscoZionist

Wrong Michael, but ever wonder about the story how Michael Savage became what he is after a gay fling with Ginsberg went wrong?!

532 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:03:08pm

re: #524 SanFranciscoZionist

Definitely, no one records your arrival. No one even looks at you as you cross the border going south.

The other way it takes longer. To put it mildly.

Don’t sneak into Mexico unless you don’t mind getting shot.

Ecuadorean survivor urges migrants to avoid Mexico


One of two known survivors of a drug gang’s massacre in northern Mexico of 72 undocumented Central and South American migrants urged others in an interview broadcast Thursday not to attempt the journey to the United States.

Luis Freddy Lala Pomavilla, 18, also described being seized by gunmen after entering Mexico from Guatemala and then taken to a house where the migrants were tied up and kept overnight before being shot in the head.

“I’m telling everyone, Ecuadoreans, don’t make the journey any more because the Zetas are killing a lot of people,” Lala said, referring to the drug gang that dominates parts of Tamaulipas state, where he was found last week.

Lala, who was wounded in the neck, wore a brace and part of his face was bandaged. His speech was labored in the four-minute interview with state-run GamaTV.

“There are a lot of bad people who won’t let you through,” he said in the edited interview, which was apparently recorded during his plane flight home from Mexico on Sunday.

533 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:04:27pm

re: #532 NJDhockeyfan

this whole line off reasoning makes me feel icky.

It’s like people are trying to justify american nativism/racism by saying “THE MEXICANS DO IT TOO!!!!1!!1!”

534 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:05:22pm

re: #533 windsagio

this whole line off reasoning makes me feel icky.

It’s like people are trying to justify american nativism/racism by saying “THE MEXICANS DO IT TOO!!!1!!1!”

I believe in American exceptionalism. What the other kids are doing is not relevent. Uncle Sam’s children play by Uncle Sam’s rules.

535 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:05:46pm

re: #507 NJDhockeyfan

Yup, not stopping all those murders happening by the drug gangs would make tourism so much better for Arizona.
/

Where? What? Stop repeating the lies.

Prove the increase of crime in AZ.

Not in Mexico, in ARIZONA.

536 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:06:14pm

re: #534 SanFranciscoZionist

I agree with you except for the exceptionalism bit :P

We’re not special, but what other kids are doing STILL isn’t relevant!

537 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:06:30pm

re: #532 NJDhockeyfan

Don’t sneak into Mexico unless you don’t mind getting shot.

Ecuadorean survivor urges migrants to avoid Mexico

Yes, I’m sure the narcos would have left them alone if they’d entered legally. (You seem to be switching from ‘Mexico’s government is mean’ to ‘Mexico’s government is incompetent and overwhelmed’).

538 darthstar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:06:43pm

re: #436 Walter L. Newton

When did I compare you to a Nazi technocrat? I wouldn’t do something like that.

You can’t stir the shit and not expect to get painted with it just a little. Don’t act like a vestel virgin when you were hoping for a blow-out between Ludwig and Cato. Seriously, one of the most annoying things on the internet is your obsession with stoking flame wars between other posters. We have our differences here, but most of us are able to see beyond those. You just want to see more flame-outs. There’s something wrong with that.

539 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:07:27pm

re: #526 Racer X

One of these days, one of us is going to find a music video so bizarre, so off-the-wall, so randomly insane that everyone who views it will end up like this.

Until then? Good times.

540 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:07:39pm

re: #535 Stanley Sea

Where? What? Stop repeating the lies.

Prove the increase of crime in AZ.

Not in Mexico, in ARIZONA.

Crime is down in AZ. I think it has something to do with the sheriff, and pink underwear, and baloney sandwiches.

;-)

541 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:07:52pm

re: #533 windsagio

this whole line off reasoning makes me feel icky.

It’s like people are trying to justify american nativism/racism by saying “THE MEXICANS DO IT TOO!!!1!!1!”

We have a duty to keep people out, as do they. It’s not racist unless I’m misunderstanding you.

542 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:10:43pm

For an instance of ‘civilized’ government expelling the foreign in a place where few of have anything at stake, I recommend folks read up on France’s recent expulsions of Roma (gypsies) to Romania.

[Link: www.google.com…]

That is the current Google News summary. Lots of issues bundled in all of that. No simple narrative.

543 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:11:01pm

re: #540 Racer X

Crime is down in AZ. I think it has something to do with the sheriff, and pink underwear, and baloney sandwiches.

;-)

One sheriff tamed a whole big state? That’s a hell of a lot of baloney…sandwiches. Even given as hard and inventively as that sheriff seems to work.

In general, Arizona has a very tame crime profile. In terms of violent crime rates, they fall in between Massachusetts and Pennsylvania.

544 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:11:33pm

re: #541 Mr Pancakes

Let me work on that, I was mistaken, and this one is pushing.


I left that sentence unmodified BECAUSE I DON”T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IT MEANS!

looked away from the screen a second, looked back, and saw that.

… damn.

545 Racer X  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:12:30pm

re: #543 SanFranciscoZionist

One sheriff tamed a whole big state? That’s a hell of a lot of baloney…sandwiches. Even given as hard and inventively as that sheriff seems to work.

In general, Arizona has a very tame crime profile. In terms of violent crime rates, they fall in between Massachusetts and Pennsylvania.

Must be all those racists.

546 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:15:14pm

re: #544 windsagio

Let me work on that, I was mistaken, and this one is pushing.

I left that sentence unmodified BECAUSE I DON”T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IT MEANS!

looked away from the screen a second, looked back, and saw that.

… damn.

Well…. I cross the border a lot….. NEVER have the border guards ever said “oh….. white guy, keep on moving brother”.

547 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:16:05pm

re: #527 SanFranciscoZionist

“You’re not supposed to use a lot of wasabi. It’s considered disrepectful. To the fish.”

“Isn’t it pretty much past caring?”

Heh. I’ve heard the opposite from sushi lovers: pass on the soy, feel free to go crazy with the wasabi.

548 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:16:16pm

re: #546 Mr Pancakes

cross when brown and report >>

549 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:17:17pm

re: #548 windsagio

cross when brown and report >>

Actually….. a good majority of the border guards are Latino.

550 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:17:35pm

re: #549 Mr Pancakes

Ask black people about black police officers :P

551 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:17:38pm

re: #545 Racer X

Must be all those racists.

“Attention-seeking hysterics” is the phrase that tends to come to mind when thinking about people like Brewer. For me, at any rate.

552 TedStriker  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:18:04pm

re: #511 Walter L. Newton

So you idea for stopping one argument is to start another one?

Kind of like helping someone forget about the pain of a gunshot wound by breaking their finger…

/Major Payne

553 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:18:08pm

re: #536 windsagio

I agree with you except for the exceptionalism bit :P

We’re not special, but what other kids are doing STILL isn’t relevant!

I believe in American exceptionalism. This does not mean we are perfect, nor that we never err, just that this nation is exceptional. It is special.

So long as we never completely lose sight of the vision for this nation our Founders had, and the principles of Enlightenment that their formative decisions were based upon, it will remain exceptional.

554 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:18:21pm

re: #550 windsagio

Ask black people about black police officers :P

Well ok…… but they are equal opportunity assholes.

555 Kronocide  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:19:26pm

re: #547 eclectic infidel

Heh. I’ve heard the opposite from sushi lovers: pass on the soy, feel free to go crazy with the wasabi.

Actually, I’m not an expert on this so I am compelled to comment.

Don’t mix wasabi in with your soy, it’s totally Yankee.

Dip the sashimi in the soy, not the rice.

556 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:19:28pm

re: #554 Mr Pancakes

I’ll take your word for it, never even been to mexico, let alone crossed the land border.

They’re Jerks now in Blaine tho.

557 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:19:59pm

re: #553 Slumbering Behemoth

I believe in American exceptionalism. This does not mean we are perfect, nor that we never err, just that this nation is exceptional. It is special.

So long as we never completely lose sight of the vision for this nation our Founders had, and the principles of Enlightenment that their formative decisions were based upon, it will remain exceptional.

Yeah, but…a lot of really creepy people think that our “exceptionalism” gives us the right to be creeps. Evil ones. Think about that.

558 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:20:44pm

re: #556 windsagio

I’ll take your word for it, never even been to mexico, let alone crossed the land border.

They’re Jerks now in Blaine tho.

Come on down!……. (rubbing my hands with glee)

559 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:20:54pm

re: #555 BigPapa

Actually, I’m not an expert on this so I am compelled to comment.

Don’t mix wasabi in with your soy, it’s totally Yankee.

Dip the sashimi in the soy, not the rice.

But I like my wasabi in my soy sauce!

560 Stanghazi  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:21:27pm

re: #540 Racer X

The whole crime wave was a GOP lie in AZ.

McCain won his primary. Mission accomplished.

Now the fallout begins.

561 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:22:08pm

re: #557 Cato the Elder

Yeah, but…a lot of really creepy people think that our “exceptionalism” gives us the right to be creeps. Evil ones. Think about that.

I see that usage, yes. For me it’s about having signed onto a high ideal as a nation. We may not be better than anyone else, but we damn well have to try to be.

562 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:22:20pm

re: #558 Mr Pancakes

I’d really rather not :p

I wont’ even go to San Diego, and that’s on the coast!

/deeply regionalist… CASCADIA FOREVER!

563 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:22:42pm

re: #555 BigPapa

Actually, I’m not an expert on this so I am compelled to comment.

Don’t mix wasabi in with your soy, it’s totally Yankee.

Dip the sashimi in the soy, not the rice.

Admittedly if I’m ordering sashimi, especially Shiro Maguro or Sake, I’m devouring it sans any sauce or topping. I’m more inclined to use wasabi for nigiri than anything else.

564 Kragar  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:22:57pm

re: #555 BigPapa

Actually, I’m not an expert on this so I am compelled to comment.

Don’t mix wasabi in with your soy, it’s totally Yankee.

Dip the sashimi in the soy, not the rice.

Funny, my wife mixes wasabi into her soy sauce all the time when eating Sushi. I’ll have to tell her despite being born and raised in Japan, she’s been doing it wrong.

565 Kronocide  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:23:25pm

re: #559 SanFranciscoZionist

But I like my wasabi in my soy sauce!

YANKEE!

(I do too…)

566 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:23:45pm

re: #557 Cato the Elder

Yeah, but…a lot of really creepy people think that our “exceptionalism” gives us the right to be creeps. Evil ones. Think about that.

You think I haven’t? Fuck those creeps.

567 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:23:51pm

re: #559 SanFranciscoZionist

But I like my wasabi in my soy sauce!

I know people that do that….. I prefer to spritz my sushi with soy and put a dab of wasabi on top. Wasabi mixed with soy looks like old guacamole.

568 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:24:05pm

re: #562 windsagio

I’d really rather not :p

I wont’ even go to San Diego, and that’s on the coast!

/deeply regionalist… CASCADIA FOREVER!

Wimp

569 Kronocide  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:24:57pm

re: #567 Mr Pancakes

Wasabi mixed with soy looks like old guacamole.

WHY DO YOU HATE OLD GUACAMOLE?

570 TedStriker  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:25:06pm

re: #553 Slumbering Behemoth

I believe in American exceptionalism. This does not mean we are perfect, nor that we never err, just that this nation is exceptional. It is special.

So long as we never completely lose sight of the vision for this nation our Founders had, and the principles of Enlightenment that their formative decisions were based upon, it will remain exceptional.

This.

There is a reason why people from all over the world have risked their lives, their families, and everything they owned and everything they ever knew to come to America since its founding.

That reason is that anyone, no matter who they are, where they’re from, or whatever their social status might have been, has the same opportunities to be what they want to be and do what they want to do.

Everyone has a shot at the American Dream…seeing it through is on the individual.

571 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:25:24pm

oops new thread! Of nothing :D

572 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:25:45pm

re: #567 Mr Pancakes

I know people that do that… I prefer to spritz my sushi with soy and put a dab of wasabi on top. Wasabi mixed with soy looks like old guacamole.

Yeah it does. I used to do that too in the beginning of my sushi experience. Lately, I’ve really been trying to capture the flavors of the fish so I’ve been avoiding the soy.

573 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:26:03pm

re: #561 SanFranciscoZionist

I see that usage, yes. For me it’s about having signed onto a high ideal as a nation. We may not be better than anyone else, but we damn well have to try to be.

I think our nation is better than a whole lot of others out there. The margin may or may not be slim, but it’s there.

574 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:26:16pm

re: #569 BigPapa

WHY DO YOU HATE OLD GUACAMOLE?

Cuz I live in the avocado capital of the world….. there is no excuse for old guac.

575 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:27:15pm

re: #568 Mr Pancakes

Wimp

Last time I went to Mexico was a three-ring circus. Don’t know when I’ll ever be back…although as I mentioned, my parents have developed this idea about retiring to Baja somewhere. The discovery that foreigners are now allowed to own guns there has further piqued my father’s interest.

576 TedStriker  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:27:36pm

re: #557 Cato the Elder

Yeah, but…a lot of really creepy people think that our “exceptionalism” gives us the right to be creeps. Evil ones. Think about that.

Rush has used “American exceptionalism” in past to give cover for some real bullshit…I think we can agree that the term doesn’t mean what he thinks it means.

577 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:29:32pm

re: #575 SanFranciscoZionist

Last time I went to Mexico was a three-ring circus. Don’t know when I’ll ever be back…although as I mentioned, my parents have developed this idea about retiring to Baja somewhere. The discovery that foreigners are now allowed to own guns there has further piqued my father’s interest.

Yea…. think you have to belong to a gun club…… I would HIGHLY recommend never bringing a firearm into Mexico…..

578 windsagio  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:30:16pm

re: #577 Mr Pancakes

Don’t do anything that might get the polices’ special attention I know some people that got into serious trouble down there, and there’s really no good ot once they have you.

579 Kronocide  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:32:17pm

re: #574 Mr Pancakes

Hawaii has to be second as an avocado capital, trees are everywhere, multiple species. I have a friend with a Sharwill tree: some grow as big as small cantaloupes and the flavor is just divine. I have no idea if it’s the soil or water (or both), but half of one with a spoon is a meal.

580 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:32:25pm
581 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:32:56pm

re: #570 talon_262

It hasn’t always been a fair playing field here in the States for many, but we continue to move forward in great strides that have surpassed the efforts of many other nations past and present. I believe this makes the US exceptional. Not perfect, just exceptional.

582 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:33:18pm

re: #561 SanFranciscoZionist

I see that usage, yes. For me it’s about having signed onto a high ideal as a nation. We may not be better than anyone else, but we damn well have to try to be.

Agreed. But please God let us see the difference.

583 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:34:17pm

re: #574 Mr Pancakes

Cuz I live in the avocado capital of the world… there is no excuse for old guac.

First and foremost, whatever you do, it turns black after six hours.

584 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:36:05pm

re: #583 Cato the Elder

First and foremost, whatever you do, it turns black after six hours.

Yep…… lemon juice will help, but either eat it within 6 hours or toss it…….

585 TedStriker  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:37:16pm

re: #581 Slumbering Behemoth

It hasn’t always been a fair playing field here in the States for many, but we continue to move forward in great strides that have surpassed the efforts of many other nations past and present. I believe this makes the US exceptional. Not perfect, just exceptional.

True…

586 Kronocide  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:38:23pm

re: #583 Cato the Elder

First and foremost, whatever you do, it turns black after six hours.

That’s why you squeeze lime in it. But I can’t confirm or deny this, guac does not last 6 hours around me so I can’t tell if you’re lying or not. I’ll take your word for it, this time

587 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:41:56pm

re: #586 BigPapa

That’s why you squeeze lime in it. But I can’t confirm or deny this, guac does not last 6 hours around me so I can’t tell if you’re lying or not. I’ll take your word for it, this time

My wife swears that leaving the pit in the guac will keep it green, I disagree…… the only part of the guac that stays green is under the pit.

588 Kronocide  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:53:10pm

re: #587 Mr Pancakes

My wife swears that leaving the pit in the guac will keep it green, I disagree… the only part of the guac that stays green is under the pit.

Yes, it’s to cover the flesh from oxygen, and it keeps the avocado genie in. Also, there’s a Bacon subspecies that allegedly tastes like bacon. The implications are mind bending.

589 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:57:23pm

re: #588 BigPapa

Yes, it’s to cover the flesh from oxygen, and it keeps the avocado genie in. Also, there’s a Bacon subspecies that allegedly tastes like bacon. The implications are mind bending.

There’s nothing like a hass. All from one tree in LA.

All Hass avocado trees have been grown from seeds (or were grafted from the cuttings) of a single tree which was grown from a seed purchased in 1926 from A. R. Rideout of Whittier, California.

590 harlequinade  Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:09:38pm

re: #99 jamesfirecat

While I hate to be a dead threader - this:

[Link: www.fastcodesign.com…]

591 boredtechindenver  Fri, Sep 3, 2010 12:40:28am

re: #553 Slumbering Behemoth

I believe in American exceptionalism. This does not mean we are perfect, nor that we never err, just that this nation is exceptional. It is special.

The nation is special. The people? Short bus special.

592 Obdicut  Fri, Sep 3, 2010 1:51:25am

re: #434 Cato the Elder

The Nazis were not technocrats. They believed in a hell of a lot of junk science, and were mystics.

593 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Sep 3, 2010 8:27:52am

re: #592 Obdicut

The Nazis were not technocrats. They believed in a hell of a lot of junk science, and were mystics.

The sad thing is that he actually knows that, but was merely trying to be deeply insulting.


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