Aloe vera, right?

OpenSUSE 11.4, amirite?

Talon I think you are correct. It does look like the spears of an aloe vera.

That’s a beautiful perspective shot.

re: #1 talon_262

Aloe vera, right?

I was thinking the inside of a Gelgamek’s hoo-hoo, but I think your guess is better.

re: #5 Slumbering Behemoth

I was thinking the inside of a Gelgamek’s hoo-hoo, but I think your guess is better.

You have a dirty mind.

re: #1 talon_262

Yes.

Goodnight, all.

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Dirty? More like traumatized. Have you seen a Gelgamek’s hoo-hoo?

Gorgeous photo!

Bayonet cactus?

My grandpa’s idea of home security was to plant bayonet cactus under every window. Well, he never did get any burglars! He also had this other cactus with little needles all over. If you got too close, it would spray them on you. They were really hard to get off, too.

Eh, looks like it’s one of those nights.

In that case, good night all, see you tomorrow night,

re: #12 marjoriemoon

My grandpa’s idea of home security was to plant bayonet cactus under every window. Well, he never did get any burglars!

A surprising amount of burglar prevention involves merely making it inconvenient. Then again, most people don’t get burgled, so it’s hard to draw a connection between that and anything.

Waste Barrel Trade

So you’ve got a situation where you’ve got little or no running water. You’ve got a no-toilet sort of place, and that place is also in a community that’s either poor or completely broke. What do you do? You look for a way to get rid that waste, but not only that, a way to turn that waste into energy. What Noa Lerner’s got here is a way to do that, by rolling a barrel full of poop down the road, trading it in for boombox time! It’s the X-Runner!

Youtube Video

Science!

re: #14 elbruce

A good burglar can get past any security system. Burglary and it’s prevention is all about time. The longer it takes to bypass a system, the less likely a burglar is going to want to bother with it.

re: #15 NJDhockeyfan

I tell you what, I’d roll a barrel of crap half-way through town if I thought it meant I could end up drawing in hot, dancing Indian women.

ElBruce is doing his little “Israel is racist because of their flag and their very name” shtick again, two threads back, by the way.

*Gulp*

Should the Mentally and Morally Unfit Be Sterilized?

The idea that the mentally unstable, drug addicts and women incapable of rearing children should be sterilized is not new. But is it right?

A professor in the U.K., David Marsland, argues that the only way to prevent the abuse and neglect of children is to stop them from being born in the first place. Marsland says law enforcement and social workers should be able to recommend sterilization and the courts should be able to enforce it.

In the U.S., judges have occasionally used the threat of sterilization and even castration to punish defendants. Oklahoma had a law that allowed the sterilization of certain felons. That law was eventually struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1942, according to The New York Times.

In another case, a mentally unstable woman fatally poisoned one child and had another child on the way. A judge proposed to sterilize her if she had any more babies. The threat was never carried out after objections from civil liberty organizations, the defendant’s lawyer and even the prosecutor, according to the Times.

But in the end, would it be that horrible to protect potential children? Or is the cure worse than the disease?

re: #19 NJDhockeyfan

The world went down that road before, and it didn’t end well. The way things are going today, I fear the record of world history is skipping.

Protecting “potential children” by preventing them from being born is like protecting an ecosystem by bulldozing it.

re: #21 Cato the Elder

Worse than that, I think. The last time this kind of shitty idea was applied in the world, it did not stop at “the mentally unstable, drug addicts and women incapable of rearing children”.

re: #18 Cato the Elder

ElBruce is doing his little “Israel is racist because of their flag and their very name” shtick again, two threads back, by the way.

What I responded to, and what I said, “by the way:”

re: #498 marjoriemoon

How is Israel racially separated?

re: #509 elbruce

Well (and I keep getting shit for this, as if a minority shouldn’t care) the name of the country is “Israel,” which means “the Jewish people.” It’d be like having a country named “Islam” or “Christianity.” The flag is a mogendavid superimposed over a tallit. Right of return applies to Jews only, but not to Palestinians, Canaanites, Samaritans, or any other group with a purported historic claim to that region as its homeland. There are a variety of other local laws that the Orthodox’s have gotten pushed through so they don’t have to encounter anything they don’t like in specific areas.

Other than that, Israel also happens to be the most open and democratic nation in the region. I’m not saying that it is racially separated, I was just originally clarifying Imam Rauf’s observation that if it isn’t, it’s going to end up with a majority of Arabs living there in the long run anyway.

This is what Cato refers to as me doing the “racist” thing…

re: #22 Slumbering Behemoth

Worse than that, I think. The last time this kind of shitty idea was applied in the world, it did not stop at “the mentally unstable, drug addicts and women incapable of rearing children”.

And on can see that exact same thing being advocated by some in the comments section of that article. Blech!

re: #19 NJDhockeyfan

*Gulp*

Should the Mentally and Morally Unfit Be Sterilized?

Reproductive and parental rights are the first rights that any free society should fight for, and the last they should allow to be taken from their cold, dead hands.

WTF is “morally unfit” anyways? Dibs on being the despot who gets to define that.

re: #23 elbruce

Other than that, Israel also happens to be the most open and democratic nation in the region. I’m not saying that it is racially separated, I was just originally clarifying Imam Rauf’s observation that if it isn’t, it’s going to end up with a majority of Arabs living there in the long run anyway.

In your dreams, and Satan’s.

re: #16 Slumbering Behemoth

A good burglar can get past any security system. Burglary and it’s prevention is all about time. The longer it takes to bypass a system, the less likely a burglar is going to want to bother with it.

Funny y’all should be talking about security systems…I work for an alarm company and I just had to sit through a two-hour legal liability seminar this afternoon (on my day off), watching and listening to what happens when alarm installers/service techs and central station operators don’t do their damn jobs.

I heard audio where an 82-year-old lady was getting attacked by a psycho neighbor (had both ears bitten off and her spine broken) and saw video where a C-store clerk got robbed by a couple of hoods and wound up dead on tape (after he hit a panic button that should have sent a silent alarm, but was misprogrammed and set the siren off, prompting one of those hoods to put a bullet in the clerk’s heart)…pretty hardcore shit.

re: #25 elbruce

Reproductive and parental rights are the first rights that any free society should fight for, and the last they should allow to be taken from their cold, dead hands.

WTF is “morally unfit” anyways? Dibs on being the despot who gets to define that.

I think it has something to do with algebra.

re: #28 Cato the Elder

Fuck, not this shit again.

Seriously, Cato…Ludwig’s not even here, ferchristsakes…

re: #29 talon_262

When will algebra ever not be funny?

re: #27 talon_262

There are certain jobs that just should not be done by the unobservant or the apathetic. I’ve quit at least one job because I could tell my head was not in the game as deep as it should have been.

re: #30 Cato the Elder

When will algebra ever not be funny?

re: #30 Cato the Elder

When will algebra ever not be funny?

Algebra used to be funny….. now that it’s a requirement to vote let’s take it bit more seriously shall we?.

re: #30 Cato the Elder

When will algebra ever not be funny?

A few days and countless cross-thread bickerfests ago.

Algebra was never funny until LVQ and Cato made it funny. They deserve our respect.

(Honco salute)

re: #33 talon_262

And, with that, I’m done on that subject for tonight…

re: #35 talon_262

And, with that, I’m done on that subject for tonight…

Me too

42y4 + 21xy − 14x3 + 42xy2 − 42y2 + 6 = 0

re: #27 talon_262

Funny y’all should be talking about security systems…I work for an alarm company….

DSC, ITI, Honeywell, ADI, Pelco, Dedicated Micros, GE Kalatel, Europlex, HAI?

re: #36 Mr Pancakes

Me too

(42y4 + 21xy) − (14x3 + 42xy2) − (42y2 + 6) = 0

FTFY
:P

re: #38 Slumbering Behemoth

FTFY
:P

Oooh, Mr. Pancakes got burned!

;-P

re: #39 talon_262

Oooh, Mr. Pancakes got burned!

;-P

No…. Wikipedia got burned…… I did a cut a paste.

re: #40 Mr Pancakes

No… Wikipedia got burned… I did a cut a paste.

The pun must have been lost there.

Pancakes…burned….

:-)

re: #41 talon_262

The pun must have been lost there.

Pancakes…burned…

:-)

Ha………. I’m always light and fluffy!

re: #36 Mr Pancakes

(42y⁴ + 21xy) − (14x³ + 42xy²) − (42y² + 6) = 0

And now I fixed it betterer.
/

re: #43 Slumbering Behemoth

And now I fixed it betterer.
/

Ok….. you can vote.

re: #37 BigPapa

I’d rather not say specifically, but I will say that I work for an alarm company (installation, service, monitoring), not a manufacturer (of which most of the companies you listed are).

re: #44 Mr Pancakes

Well, that’s a relief.

:looks at ballot:
*sigh*

Aww man, fuck you.

re: #46 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, that’s a relief.

:looks at ballot:
*sigh*

Aww man, fuck you.

No shit

re: #42 Mr Pancakes

Ha… I’m always light and fluffy!

Did you ever have your steamy get-together with Mrs. Butterworth?

/don’t forget the butter…. ;-P

re: #45 talon_262

Where is it that you ply your trade? You don’t have to be specific, something like “The San Fernando Valley” would be sufficient.

re: #48 talon_262

Did you ever have your steamy get-together with Mrs. Butterworth?

/don’t forget the butter… ;-P

Shaaaa we roll around in the syrup every chance we get dude!

re: #48 talon_262

re: #50 Mr Pancakes

And now we are left with food pr0n.

:decline:

re: #51 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #50 Mr Pancakes

And now we are left with food pr0n.

:decline:

Be grateful no one’s talking about latex and lime Jell-O…

///

re: #51 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #50 Mr Pancakes

And now we are left with food pr0n.

:decline:

food pr0n is underrated.

re: #45 talon_262

I’d rather not say specifically, but I will say that I work for an alarm company (installation, service, monitoring), not a manufacturer (of which most of the companies you listed are).

It’s cool, talking shop. I remember ‘keyswitch arming’ LOL.

re: #52 talon_262

Be grateful no one’s talking about latex and lime Jell-O…

///

Who’s not talking that?

re: #49 Slumbering Behemoth

Where is it that you ply your trade? You don’t have to be specific, something like “The San Fernando Valley” would be sufficient.

I live in Nashville, so yeah, it’s a company here in town…

re: #52 talon_262

Be grateful no one’s talking about latex and lime Jell-O…

///

That scenario has aroused my… interest. What are you selling, kind sir?

Well… nothing going on here tonight…

re: #58 Walter L. Newton

Well… nothing going on here tonight…

Al-gebra lessons!

re: #54 BigPapa

It’s cool, talking shop. I remember ‘keyswitch arming’ LOL.

Ugghh, ancient Ademco keyswitch systems with everything on one or two sensor loops. We still a few customers that still use those artifacts (along with Westecs, but relatively not many though, thank G-d).

re: #56 talon_262

Dang. That’s quite a ways from where I live. I dig working with electronics and troubleshooting that kind of stuff (except when it comes to working on my GAWT DAMNED CAR!!!).

Just thought if we were near each other, and there was an opening at your company, you could lie to put in a good word for me with your boss.
/

Walter,

I saw Pirates of Penzance at the Sydney Opera House the other night. As somebody who has not been to theater in 25 years, and who appreciates architecture and acoustics…. I had a great time.

My only minor quibble is the main pirate character was a little… Deppish, if you will. I don’t know who copies who, but the mannerisms were there.

re: #62 BigPapa

Walter,

I saw Pirates of Penzance at the Sydney Opera House the other night. As somebody who has not been to theater in 25 years, and who appreciates architecture and acoustics… I had a great time.

My only minor quibble is the main pirate character was a little… Deppish, if you will. I don’t know who copies who, but the mannerisms were there.

I would be most impressed with the venue more than anything. I detest Gilbert and Sullivan. But don’t mistake my comment, I thinks theatre is always good… and I’m glad you enjoyed it. Nothing beats seeing a show like that all teched out on a big stage.

re: #58 Walter L. Newton

Well… nothing going on here tonight…

Just STFU, put on this latex tutu, and hop in the lime jello.
/

BTW I looked at your jewelry site early today and your work is excellent. I still haven’t sent the link to my mom, but I know she would dig your turquoise stuff. I just have to remember to ask her for her email addy.

re: #64 Slumbering Behemoth

Just STFU, put on this latex tutu, and hop in the lime jello.
/

BTW I looked at your jewelry site early today and your work is excellent. I still haven’t sent the link to my mom, but I know she would dig your turquoise stuff. I just have to remember to ask her for her email addy.

Thank you… yes, pass the URL on to her if you can… I can always use the business.

re: #63 Walter L. Newton

I would be most impressed with the venue more than anything. I detest Gilbert and Sullivan. But don’t mistake my comment, I thinks theatre is always good… and I’m glad you enjoyed it. Nothing beats seeing a show like that all teched out on a big stage.

I understand your point on G and S… but it was fun for a noob. As somebody who deals with acoustics and architecture, the facility was a joy to watch a show in. It sounded great.

I got an appreciation for how much work it takes to make a show smooth and how much talent it takes to sing that way.

re: #63 Walter L. Newton

I would be most impressed with the venue more than anything. I detest Gilbert and Sullivan. But don’t mistake my comment, I thinks theatre is always good… and I’m glad you enjoyed it. Nothing beats seeing a show like that all teched out on a big stage.

We have a local playhouse which I knew nothing about….. maybe I’ll go.

re: #65 Walter L. Newton

It’s beautiful work, dude. You have a talent.

I just did a Google search on my nick, since we were discussing my job (not like I’m worried, since anyone can figure out who I am IRL if they really want)…and found that Pamz and the Deuce (among others) have a few of my comments (along with those of other Lizards) up on threads, one or two of them quite recently.

Kinda creepy, but not surprised…

re: #69 talon_262

I just did a Google search on my nick, since we were discussing my job (not like I’m worried, since anyone can figure out who I am IRL if they really want)…and found that Pamz and the Deuce (among others) have a few of my comments (along with those of other Lizards) up on threads, one or two of them quite recently.

Kinda creepy, but not surprised…

You’re a legend

re: #70 Mr Pancakes

You’re a legend

Not quite, just the law of averages at work…

I Googled myself once…… much to my chagrin I couldn’t find me.

Good night, y’all…

re: #69 talon_262

I did that once. The only hit that was specifically about me was at some little creationist’s blog rebutting something I said in favor of evolution during the dust up here a while back. I didn’t even bother reading it. Talk about disappointing.

You’re really picking at some low hanging fruit if you’re gonna use something I said to deny the validity of evolution.

re: #73 talon_262

Good night, y’all…

Yeah, I’m bouncing too. Y’all have a great weekend.

re: #62 BigPapa

Walter,

I saw Pirates of Penzance at the Sydney Opera House the other night. As somebody who has not been to theater in 25 years, and who appreciates architecture and acoustics… I had a great time.

My only minor quibble is the main pirate character was a little… Deppish, if you will. I don’t know who copies who, but the mannerisms were there.

The Pirate King is one of the most over-the-top of the many over-the-top G & S roles. You get a good ham actor or good actor who can ham it up, and let him run with it.

I’d make a great Pirate King, but it’s all moot since I’ll never get the part. Wrong physical type and not pals with any director who’d direct Gilbert & Sullivan.

Gotta run now. Off at 7:30 for a three-hour ride to the state community theater convention, where I’m on stage for all of 30 seconds in an excerpt from Cat On A Hot Tin Roof as Reverend Tooker (or as he was known backstage, “Reverend Toker, who knows where Big Daddy’s real cash crop is grown on his 28,000 acres”.

And for this I get to pay $85.

re: #69 talon_262

I just did a Google search on my nick, since we were discussing my job (not like I’m worried, since anyone can figure out who I am IRL if they really want)…and found that Pamz and the Deuce (among others) have a few of my comments (along with those of other Lizards) up on threads, one or two of them quite recently.

Kinda creepy, but not surprised…

I had to search my nick since it was mentioned. There must be 50 of me out there. Sweet.

re: #5 Slumbering Behemoth

Gelgamek’s hoo-hoo.

I just like saying it.

8 people are on?

Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Jimmah
negativ
Okami
ozbloke
reine.de.tout
Walter L. Newton
wlewisiii

Freakin’ holiday weekends… Who is ozbloke?

re: #78 tnguitarist

I had to search my nick since it was mentioned. There must be 50 of me out there. Sweet.

There are many benefits to using a common word as your screen name, and to using a different one on each website you frequent. Plausible deniability is nice.

My real name is a bit more unique, though, and in this age when employers routinely Google new applicants it’s a bit disturbing. For example, someone with my first & last name was executed for a double murder in Nebraska in the 90s. There’s a registered sex offender in my city with my first and last name, though the first name is spelled differently, and he’s in his 60s whereas I’m… not.

re: #72 Mr Pancakes

Try IHOP.

re: #80 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Freakin’ holiday weekends… Who is ozbloke?

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

re: #81 negativ

I used to work for a collection agency.

One of the collector’s real name was Jim Smith.

He used an alias… not because he was afraid, but because no one believed it was his real name.

I got a kid who wants to chef. So I kicked him into that position. I am a fun guy. Morning Honcos.

re: #85 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yer paycheck clear?

re: #86 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yer paycheck clear?

A mess up with the transfer of funds.

re: #86 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My boss was very apologetic.

re: #88 Cannadian Club Akbar

My boss was very apologetic.

Good Morning…Good News CCA

re: #89 HoosierHoops

Good Morning…Good News CCA

A new couch for me to sleep on?
////

re: #90 Cannadian Club Akbar

A new couch for me to sleep on?
///

Soon I will be living in a box and blogging from a public library.

re: #80 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

8 people are on?

Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Jimmah
negativ
Okami
ozbloke
reine.de.tout
Walter L. Newton
wlewisiii

Freakin’ holiday weekends… Who is ozbloke?

And I really wasn’t “on” just logged in, but asleep.

re: #91 Cannadian Club Akbar

Soon I will be living in a box and blogging from a public library.

Really?

Morning all.

re: #91 Cannadian Club Akbar

I missed any updates yesterday on your paycheck fiasco. I take it it didn’t end well?

I have actual burns on my arm that actually suck.

re: #87 Cannadian Club Akbar

That happens very easily… there was a guy where I used to work… had to press the button at the precise moment… maximize interest accrual… missed it once… two hundred checks bounced…

Looked like freakin’ Bastille Day at the office.

It is National Bacon Day.. That is so wrong on so many levels…

re: #97 HoosierHoops

Oh, I don’t know. He was pretty smart…

I will be soon living in a box with a paycheck not cashed and burns on my arm. Thanks Obama!!
//Har!

re: #99 Cannadian Club Akbar

I will be soon living in a box with a paycheck not cashed and burns on my arm. Thanks Obama!!
//Har!

Oh, sorry. Try back next month.
[Link: bls.gov…]

re: #97 HoosierHoops

It is National Bacon Day.. That is so wrong on so many levels…

The whole idea gives me a rash(er).

re: #97 HoosierHoops

Aren’t people grossed out by the term “pork bellies”?

Well… to work…

re: #103 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well… to work…

Have a great day

re: #97 HoosierHoops

It is National Bacon Day.. That is so wrong on so many levels…

We are gonna fight. But you know this…
////

re: #105 Cannadian Club Akbar

We are gonna fight. But you know this…
///

Bring home the Bacon CCA!

BBiAB.

re: #97 HoosierHoops

It is National Bacon Day.. That is so wrong on so many levels…

Bacon + (anything) > anything. Don’t fight it. It’s science/

IT’S COLLEGE FOOTBALL SATURDAY!! w00t!

And the US Open is on at the same time…Lawd, i love early September.

good morning from a breezy and delightful Connecticut … I am psyched to be going to the US Open tennis tonight in NYC … can’t wait!

re: #109 _RememberTonyC

good morning from a breezy and delightful Connecticut … I am psyched to be going to the US Open tennis tonight in NYC … can’t wait!

wow. i’m jealous. center court? how are your seats? (although i hear that there isn’t a bad seat in the house)

Explosions!

re: #110 Aceofwhat?

wow. i’m jealous. center court? how are your seats? (although i hear that there isn’t a bad seat in the house)

not sure exactly where my seats are, but I’m picking them up at the VIP will call window at Arthur Ashe stadium. I expect them to be great seats.

re: #109 _RememberTonyC

good morning from a breezy and delightful Connecticut … I am psyched to be going to the US Open tennis tonight in NYC … can’t wait!

I bet not, have you seen this?

“I don’t give a f— what anyone wants. I got a lot of money on the game. Sit the f— down.”

[Link: www.examiner.com…]

re: #113 RogueOne

I bet not, have you seen this?

“I don’t give a f— what anyone wants. I got a lot of money on the game. Sit the f— down.”

[Video]

[Link: www.examiner.com…]

I saw that in the NY Post this morning …. it was on the front page of the paper. The brawlers got a two year ban from the stadium.

re: #112 _RememberTonyC

not sure exactly where my seats are, but I’m picking them up at the VIP will call window at Arthur Ashe stadium. I expect them to be great seats.

Nice.

re: #115 Aceofwhat?

Nice.

I’d take those seats…Not gonna watch on TV…
Hi Ace

re: #114 _RememberTonyC

The younger guy had a potty mouth but he never threw a punch. Those old people were the ones throwing down. Why did he get banned?

re: #115 Aceofwhat?

Nice.

but the really special moment will be before the tennis begins. I’m getting a chance to meet the great Martina Navratilova. We have a mutual friend who is setting it up. She is the greatest female player ever and one of the athletes I admire most. That will be a kodak moment for sure.

re: #118 _RememberTonyC

but the really special moment will be before the tennis begins. I’m getting a chance to meet the great Martina Navratilova. We have a mutual friend who is setting it up. She is the greatest female player ever and one of the athletes I admire most. That will be a kodak moment for sure.

wow. good for you, man. she’s a legend. what a great night. enjoy yourself!

re: #117 RogueOne

The younger guy had a potty mouth but he never threw a punch. Those old people were the ones throwing down. Why did he get banned?

they all got banned for their behavior. the lady threw the first punch, then her 75 year old dad threw one. and the young guy tossed him away and he fell down a couple of small flights of stairs. you just don’t expect that sort of behavior at tennis. but it IS New York.

re: #119 Aceofwhat?

wow. good for you, man. she’s a legend. what a great night. enjoy yourself!

Thanks …. I’ll report back tomorrow :)

re: #116 HoosierHoops

I’d take those seats…Not gonna watch on TV…
Hi Ace

Hoopster! I love CFB saturdays, my man. Just love them. I think that my girlfriend Stanley is going to join us around noon EST and set up a page so that we can take the football discussions off of the main page…would love for you to join us if you’re online.

re: #121 _RememberTonyC

Thanks … I’ll report back tomorrow :)

Take a camera…You made me think..Meeting Legends is awesome…
I was a kid and met Jesse Owens at a car show…Blown away..

I’m short on bacon, so i’m making a ground beef, cheese and tomato omelet to kick off the day’s festivities.

re: #122 Aceofwhat?

Hoopster! I love CFB saturdays, my man. Just love them. I think that my girlfriend Stanley is going to join us around noon EST and set up a page so that we can take the football discussions off of the main page…would love for you to join us if you’re online.

Watch out for UConn at Michigan in the Big House today. The crowd will be 109,901 but I fully expect UConn to make this memorable. Michigan is vulnerable and if their coach Rich Rodriguez is fired after this year, UConn’s Randy Edsall will likely replace him. My college football sources tell me this game is almost an “audition” for the Wolverines job for Randy.

re: #123 HoosierHoops

Take a camera…You made me think..Meeting Legends is awesome…
I was a kid and met Jesse Owens at a car show…Blown away..

the batteries are charging as we speak!

re: #122 Aceofwhat?

Hoopster! I love CFB saturdays, my man. Just love them. I think that my girlfriend Stanley is going to join us around noon EST and set up a page so that we can take the football discussions off of the main page…would love for you to join us if you’re online.

Sounds good! I’ll be watching Football and packing up a room today.. 1 room a day is my goal..There are boxes everywhere..The next 12 hours should be fun…Sunday I’m closing down the pool which is a pain in the ass..Effen pools..

Good morning lizards!

re: #127 HoosierHoops

Sounds good! I’ll be watching Football and packing up a room today.. 1 room a day is my goal..There are boxes everywhere..The next 12 hours should be fun…Sunday I’m closing down the pool which is a pain in the ass..Effen pools..

make sure the last two things you pack are your laptop and your TV. but i guess you already knew that.

re: #128 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

yo …. how are snooki and the situation?

re: #125 _RememberTonyC

Watch out for UConn at Michigan in the Big House today. The crowd will be 109,901 but I fully expect UConn to make this memorable. Michigan is vulnerable and if their coach Rich Rodriguez is fired after this year, UConn’s Randy Edsall will likely replace him. My college football sources tell me this game is almost an “audition” for the Wolverines job for Randy.

Spot on. UConn is for real this year, and Michigan may not be. That program is a blight on the B10 right now, but it’s their own fault. We all knew what RichRod was…a gimmicky offensive mind who can’t recruit or coach defense.

Lots of interesting games today…TCU/OSU…Purdue/ND (watch out for Robert Marve)…Penn State’s first true frosh QB…Brantley’s start at Florida…

Too bad UNC suspended half of their team…tonight’s game just got a lot more boring.

re: #130 _RememberTonyC

yo … how are snooki and the situation?

Snookie? She’s a fake NJian!

re: #127 HoosierHoops

Sounds good! I’ll be watching Football and packing up a room today.. 1 room a day is my goal..There are boxes everywhere..The next 12 hours should be fun…Sunday I’m closing down the pool which is a pain in the ass..Effen pools..

Dude, why isn’t the company writing a check for your movers again? Every time i’ve relocated for my company, i went out of my way to barely lift a finger. Hell, one time my house wasn’t even clean…they looked at me like “what, are we your maids”. I asked them if it really mattered whether they picked toys and pillows off of the floor or out of drawers, since they were getting paid either way, and told them to get to work!

I friggin’ hate packing, man. Hate it.

re: #129 _RememberTonyC

make sure the last two things you pack are your laptop and your TV. but i guess you already knew that.

The Moving truck pulls up the 18th..The won’t deliver until 10-1 in Oklahoma.
Winston and I are living in Hotels in between the 18th and 1st. Should be fun..

re: #132 NJDhockeyfan

Snookie? She’s a fake NJian!

heh…sometimes stereotypes form because they’re true, dude!

re: #131 Aceofwhat?

Spot on. UConn is for real this year, and Michigan may not be. That program is a blight on the B10 right now, but it’s their own fault. We all knew what RichRod was…a gimmicky offensive mind who can’t recruit or coach defense.

Lots of interesting games today…TCU/OSU…Purdue/ND (watch out for Robert Marve)…Penn State’s first true frosh QB…Brantley’s start at Florida…

Too bad UNC suspended half of their team…tonight’s game just got a lot more boring.

And the return of Erin Andrews to boot! I really like Michigan (I worked with Bo Schembechler in 1990-1991 at ABC in NY) and my youngest son may go there. So I hope Edsall does get the job there. He’s a great guy and a Syracuse grad. He was Art Monk’s buddy back in school.

re: #135 Aceofwhat?

heh…sometimes stereotypes form because they’re true, dude!

I never seen the show but I believe she’s from Chile. NJ girls are much finer than her.

re: #132 NJDhockeyfan

Snookie? She’s a fake NJian!

and geller is a fake new yorker … sorry dude, she’s from joisey now :)

re: #113 RogueOne

I bet not, have you seen this?

“I don’t give a f— what anyone wants. I got a lot of money on the game. Sit the f— down.”

[Video][Link: www.examiner.com…]

Serving alcohol at sporting events is, and has always been, a GREAT idea.

re: #134 HoosierHoops

The Moving truck pulls up the 18th..The won’t deliver until 10-1 in Oklahoma.
Winston and I are living in Hotels in between the 18th and 1st. Should be fun..

you should do a travel blog … you’re gonna have some stories!

re: #133 Aceofwhat?

Dude, why isn’t the company writing a check for your movers again? Every time i’ve relocated for my company, i went out of my way to barely lift a finger. Hell, one time my house wasn’t even clean…they looked at me like “what, are we your maids”. I asked them if it really mattered whether they picked toys and pillows off of the floor or out of drawers, since they were getting paid either way, and told them to get to work!

I friggin’ hate packing, man. Hate it.

We have a managed move..I just prefer packing all my stuff…You know until I got the Curveball I was going to Singapore this month…Sending all my stuff back home to Napa and flying to Asia..This has been a shock to the system.. Then Again Indiana was a eye opener…Winters really sucks here..

re: #140 _RememberTonyC

you should do a travel blog … you’re gonna have some stories!

The Yountville Express blows thru tornado alley …

re: #134 HoosierHoops

The Moving truck pulls up the 18th..The won’t deliver until 10-1 in Oklahoma.
Winston and I are living in Hotels in between the 18th and 1st. Should be fun..

My brother lives in Tulsa. We went out there for his wedding. It’s beautiful out there.

re: #143 NJDhockeyfan

My brother lives in Tulsa. We went out there for his wedding. It’s beautiful out there.

Tulsa is in “green country” in Oklahoma … OKC and Norman? Not so much. But Hoopster can go see Kevin Durant this winter … lucky bastard.

re: #144 _RememberTonyC

Tulsa is in “green country” in Oklahoma … OKC and Norman? Not so much. But Hoopster can go see Kevin Durant this winter … lucky bastard.

Yes! Kevin wins the MVP this year! Also Norman is a pretty cool College town..

re: #143 NJDhockeyfan

My brother lives in Tulsa. We went out there for his wedding. It’s beautiful out there.

Living on Tulsa Time!
/It’s funny Tulsa time is only written in 2 chords…Maybe one of the easiest songs to play of all time on guitar..

I see Hamas is still trying to move on with their version of the peace process…

Gaza militants fire Qassam into southern Israel

Gaza militants fired a Qassam rocket into Israel, Army Radio reported on Saturday, adding that the projectile exploded in an open field in the western Negev. No injuries were reported.

The attack comes amid attempts to relaunch direct peace talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority in Washington, a move to which Hamas, the Islamist group which controls the Gaza Strip, strongly objects.

…Hamas on Thursday vowed more violence: “Operations of resistance will continue and the measures by the occupation and Fatah will not block them,” said Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri.

What a nice tolerant group of folks!
/

re: #145 HoosierHoops

Yes! Kevin wins the MVP this year! Also Norman is a pretty cool College town..

I’ve only been there once … back in 1985 … saw Wayman Tisdale play for OU against Danny Manning of Kansas … electric atmosphere at Lloyd Noble Arena that night.

re: #147 NJDhockeyfan

I see Hamas is still trying to move on with their version of the peace process…

Gaza militants fire Qassam into southern Israel

What a nice tolerant group of folks!
/

repeat after me: mideast “peace” will never exist. it doesn’t exist among the arab/muslim “brothers,” and it won’t exist between those groups and the Jews.

just
won’t
happen

re: #136 _RememberTonyC

And the return of Erin Andrews to boot! I really like Michigan (I worked with Bo Schembechler in 1990-1991 at ABC in NY) and my youngest son may go there. So I hope Edsall does get the job there. He’s a great guy and a Syracuse grad. He was Art Monk’s buddy back in school.

Michigan is a great school…i have a lot of friends who went to Michigan and a lot of family who went to Ohio State, so i was raised in the tradition of big 10 football. And now i live in Florida and get to see all of the great SEC teams, too, so i’m loving life.

Edsall does seem like a great guy…handled that poor kid’s death last year with grace and sincerity. Michigan could do a hella lot worse.

But you know they’re also looking at Les Miles…if things get shaky in LSU, i wouldn’t be surprised if Michigan tried to lure him away.

re: #147 NJDhockeyfan

What a nice tolerant group of folks!
/

We should really give them their own country//

Fowler, Corso and Herbstreit…my Saturday morning buddies. My wife gets to sleep in on Saturdays as long as she wants, and I get to set up camp in the living room. It’s a nice little symbiosis here at the Ace ranch…

re: #150 Aceofwhat?

Michigan is a great school…i have a lot of friends who went to Michigan and a lot of family who went to Ohio State, so i was raised in the tradition of big 10 football. And now i live in Florida and get to see all of the great SEC teams, too, so i’m loving life.

Edsall does seem like a great guy…handled that poor kid’s death last year with grace and sincerity. Michigan could do a hella lot worse.

But you know they’re also looking at Les Miles…if things get shaky in LSU, i wouldn’t be surprised if Michigan tried to lure him away.

was Miles a “michigan man” along the way? That matters in Ann Arbor

re: #151 Aceofwhat?

We should really give them their own country//

Has the State Dept condemned Hamas for the murders of 4 Israelis yet or do they still consider it a “tragedy?”

re: #152 Aceofwhat?

Fowler, Corso and Herbstreit…my Saturday morning buddies. My wife gets to sleep in on Saturdays as long as she wants, and I get to set up camp in the living room. It’s a nice little symbiosis here at the Ace ranch…

Lee Corso is a good man. But Bo used to love coaching against him when Lee was at Indiana. Bo never lost to Lee. But Lee is a great man too. Lee was a real leader when it came to integrating the ACC back in the early 1960s when he was a recruiter for Maryland.

re: #154 NJDhockeyfan

Has the State Dept condemned Hamas for the murders of 4 Israelis yet or do they still consider it a “tragedy?”

a strongly worded blackberry message is being prepared.

off for a walk …. see y’all later

re: #156 _RememberTonyC

a strongly worded blackberry message is being prepared.

They need more billboards in Israel!
///

re: #153 _RememberTonyC

was Miles a “michigan man” along the way? That matters in Ann Arbor

yep. alum and former assistant under Bo. big points for that.

re: #155 _RememberTonyC

Lee Corso is a good man. But Bo used to love coaching against him when Lee was at Indiana. Bo never lost to Lee. But Lee is a great man too. Lee was a real leader when it came to integrating the ACC back in the early 1960s when he was a recruiter for Maryland.

yep. agree completely.

Boise State has their one game season this Monday night vs. Virginia Tech.

No good team has been willing to play BSU because they know BSU may just beat them. BSU may not be great, but they are pretty good. Then they have the nerve to turn around and criticize BSU for not playing anyone.

BSU has been for years willing to take on all comers with no BSU home game in return. (I agree asking anyone to play on that blue turf is a bit much to ask.)

re: #161 compound idaho

Boise State has their one game season this Monday night vs. Virginia Tech.

No good team has been willing to play BSU because they know BSU may just beat them. BSU may not be great, but they are pretty good. Then they have the nerve to turn around and criticize BSU for not playing anyone.

BSU has been for years willing to take on all comers with no BSU home game in return. (I agree asking anyone to play on that blue turf is a bit much to ask.)

BSU is ok.. But really they don’t play anybody this year..Who cares if they are undefeated? It really doesn’t matter.. College Football is all messed up..No play-offs…Who really knows who is the best?

Obama’s backdoor gun ban
Government is blocking sale of historic weapons

President Obama is afraid of the M1 Garand, the U.S. rifle that helped win World War II, defeating Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. Administration officials earlier this year moved to block the government of South Korea from selling vintage U.S.-made M1 Garands and M1 carbines to eager stateside collectors.

The State Department confirmed to The Washington Times that it was considering “alternative options” to deal with the classic rifles. During the Clinton administration, such code words meant melting them down. The government in Seoul was told that this step was being taken for the protection of Americans. “The U.S. insisted that imports of the aging rifles could cause problems such as firearm accidents,” a South Korean Ministry of National Defense official told the Korea Times last month.

It’s hard to see how these M1 rifles could be considered risky when they already are offered for sale by the U.S. government through the Civilian Marksmanship Program. In fact, the federally sponsored CMP puts on summer camps that teach boys and girls how to handle the Garand properly and safely. In the past seven years, there hasn’t been a single accident. Many of the participants go on to serve their country or take part in shooting sports at the collegiate and Olympic level.

re: #128 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

Good morning you covert Beck supporter who has successfully hid all your pro-beck comments deep with in the LGF database… clever on you part… but you don’t fool us… with my powers of “If I say it, it’s got to be true” I will expose your for the Beckian that you are. :)

re: #163 NJDhockeyfan

Obama’s backdoor gun ban

What’s a backdoor gun? Sounds especially dangerous.

re: #164 Walter L. Newton

Good morning you covert Beck supporter who has successfully hid all your pro-beck comments deep with in the LGF database… clever on you part… but you don’t fool us… with my powers of “If I say it, it’s got to be true” I will expose your for the Beckian that you are. :)

You’ve exposed my sekrit plans! How dare you post my real agenda!
//

re: #165 RogueOne

What’s a backdoor gun? Sounds especially dangerous.

It’s from the Washington Time. Remember them? Home to Robert Stacy McCain and other white supremacists.

There is no backdoor gun ban. That’s pure hysteria and fear mongering. All it was was a decision by the administration to refuse an offer by the South Korean government to sell 850,000 M1 Garands to the US government.

re: #167 Gus 802

It’s from the Washington Time. Remember them? Home to Robert Stacy McCain and other white supremacists.

There is no backdoor gun ban. That’s pure hysteria and fear mongering. All it was was a decision by the administration to refuse an offer by the South Korean government to sell 850,000 M1 Garands to the US government.

I knew someone would question the story! I thought moonies would be mentioned as well! He he he…

Here is the story from a South Korean newspaper:

Washington Vetoes Korea’s Re-Sale of Old Rifles to U.S.

The U.S. administration has vetoed the Korean government’s plan to sell some 100,000 old M1 rifles used during the Korean War back to the United States. It also banned 850,000 M1 rifles already imported from Korea and other countries from being sold to civilians.

In order to save some W300 million (US$1=W1,181) on storing old weaponry a year, the Korean government decided to sell the 86,000 M1 Garands and 22,000 M1 Carbines to the U.S. and repeatedly asked Washington to approve the deal. The expected price was W130 billion in total, with one M1 Garand fetching US$220 and a M1 Carbine US$140. But the U.S. objected to the plan fearing that they could land in the hands of terrorists.

A Korean government official said, “It’s difficult to understand why the U.S. opposes the deal now, when we already shipped tens of thousands of these firearms to the U.S. in the early 1990s. We are trying to grasp the real underlying cause of this reversal through diplomatic channels.” He added that because these firearms were originally made in the U.S., selling them back needs approval from Washington.

re: #161 compound idaho

BSU has been for years willing to take on all comers with no BSU home game in return. (I agree asking anyone to play on that blue turf is a bit much to ask.)

Errr, sure, they’ll travel to someone else’s stadium for a million dollars. They don’t get it. Most big-time teams are scheduling one of two types of non-conference games: patsies, who are paid to come in and lose…and legit programs, who trade home games (see: Miami/Ohio State…Alabama/Penn State…).

Boise, who is not a patsy but also not yet elite enough to get much interest in a home-and-home series from elite teams, needs to lower their asking price or quit whining.

Just sayin’.

re: #165 RogueOne

What’s a backdoor gun? Sounds especially dangerous.

It’s another nonsense story that has been around for 6 months or so. The rifles are very old and weren’t stored or cared for properly. It’s nothing outrageous.

re: #168 NJDhockeyfan

I knew someone would question the story! I thought moonies would be mentioned as well! He he he…

Here is the story from a South Korean newspaper:

Washington Vetoes Korea’s Re-Sale of Old Rifles to U.S.

And? Big deal. The sale was turned down. That’s not a gun ban. There is no Constitutional right to allowing gun purchases by the Federal government from the South Koreans for gun collectors.

re: #162 HoosierHoops

BSU is ok.. But really they don’t play anybody this year..Who cares if they are undefeated? It really doesn’t matter.. College Football is all messed up..No play-offs…Who really knows who is the best?

i don’t mind if they beat VaTech and Oregon State and go undefeated and go to the NC this year. they’ll get killed by Alabama or Florida or Ohio State and we won’t have to have this debate any more!

re: #168 NJDhockeyfan

I knew someone would question the story! I thought moonies would be mentioned as well! He he he…

Here is the story from a South Korean newspaper:

Washington Vetoes Korea’s Re-Sale of Old Rifles to U.S.

I don’t know if they’re questioning the story…i think that the story is legit, but the spin seems funny. I can still go down to the gun store and buy a gun, right? I don’t understand why it would be a “ban” if i can still buy the same gun that i could yesterday…

re: #171 Gus 802

And? Big deal. The sale was turned down. That’s not a gun ban. There is no Constitutional right to allowing gun purchases by the Federal government from the South Koreans for gun collectors.

Calm down Tex, I was just posting the Washington Times link to see how many people would get ticked off. The WT is spinning the story, that is obvious.

re: #167 Gus 802

re: #170 Killgore Trout

It was a joke. You guys are a little slow in the morning/

re: #28 Cato the Elder

I think it has something to do with algebra.

re: #19 NJDhockeyfan

*Gulp*

Should the Mentally and Morally Unfit Be Sterilized?

What is “morally unfit”? Or can there even be any such thing? A woman who murders her children is morally unfit to have more, IMHO. If she escapes legal liability by reason of insanity, she’s still morally unfit to have more.

This is not that slippery a slope. There’s a clear line between the population in general, and the small class of women who have been found at trial to have done that, but to have been insane.

Leave the phrase “morally unfit” out of it, and simply provide that women who are insane and have killed one of their own children shall be put on birth control for however long their mental illness lasts. Until menopause, if medical science cannot find an answer earlier.

As to men, this is a family thread and I’d better not air my suggestions for what to do with men who kill their own children and are acquitted on grounds of insanity.

re: #174 NJDhockeyfan

Calm down Tex, I was just posting the Washington Times link to see how many people would get ticked off. The WT is spinning the story, that is obvious.

Right. You posted it to see who would get ticked off.

re: #174 NJDhockeyfan

Calm down Tex, I was just posting the Washington Times link to see how many people would get ticked off. The WT is spinning the story, that is obvious.

ha, i get it now. good stuff.

Dear web developers:

Please stop using Flash-based navigation, and for the love of “Bob” please resist the temptation to put 32,767 lines of Javascript on every single page.

Sincerely,
Everyone

re: #176 lostlakehiker

As to men, this is a family thread and I’d better not air my suggestions for what to do with men who kill their own children and are acquitted on grounds of insanity.

no worries. i endorse whatever you refrained from saying.

Heh. Think I’ll go back to work.

re: #179 negativ

I had to disable the flash plugin on my chrome browser. It was locking up LGF.

re: #176 lostlakehiker

re: #19 NJDhockeyfan

What is “morally unfit”? Or can there even be any such thing?

This experiment has already been run.

re: #167 Gus 802

It’s from the Washington Time. Remember them? Home to Robert Stacy McCain and other white supremacists.

There is no backdoor gun ban. That’s pure hysteria and fear mongering. All it was was a decision by the administration to refuse an offer by the South Korean government to sell 850,000 M1 Garands to the US government.

Same difference. The administration is taking an action which will hinder American collectors’ chances to get a device that isn’t illegal, isn’t particularly suited to the commission of crimes, and has real historical interest.

Just because the Washington Times reports a story doesn’t mean that the statements of fact contained in the article are false.

Winter fashion preview

re: #185 Killgore Trout

Winter fashion preview

that’s just awful. is there anything the British won’t wear??

re: #186 Aceofwhat?

that’s just awful. is there anything the British won’t wear??

Cowboy hats?

re: #185 Killgore Trout

Winter fashion preview

I want the bunny beanie…Mornin’ folks. I see the more paranoid types are still bouncing back and forth between conspiracy and plausible deniability…It’s evil!…I didn’t say that, but the question needs to be asked…I’m just putting it out there. Good times.

re: #187 Killgore Trout

Cowboy hats?

Really…

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Re:

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That would make a nice March.

re: #168 NJDhockeyfan

A Korean government official said, “It’s difficult to understand why the U.S. opposes the deal now, when we already shipped tens of thousands of these firearms to the U.S. in the early 1990s. We are trying to grasp the real underlying cause of this reversal through diplomatic channels.” He added that because these firearms were originally made in the U.S., selling them back needs approval from Washington.

How about because THE US GOV’T DOESN’T WANT OR NEED NEARLY 1 MILLION M1s.

I’m sure they did ship tens of thousands in the early 90s. We didn’t need, want, or use them then, either.

WASTEFUL SPENDING. Remember when conservatives used to get pathologically turgid over that?

re: #187 Killgore Trout

Cowboy hats?

+1

re: #188 darthstar

I want the bunny beanie…Mornin’ folks. I see the more paranoid types are still bouncing back and forth between conspiracy and plausible deniability…It’s evil!…I didn’t say that, but the question needs to be asked…I’m just putting it out there. Good times.

college football > everything else

(at least today)

re: #193 Aceofwhat?

college football > everything else

(at least today)

Ah, yes, the real football season…college. Just as with basketball, so much better than the pros.

re: #191 negativ

WASTEFUL SPENDING. Remember when conservatives used to get pathologically turgid over that?

They still are: see health care, food stamps, social security. Guns are good, though.

re: #162 HoosierHoops

What you all say is true, but the big time schools could put an end to BSU bragging rights for years to come by stepping up and thumping them during in a non conference game. I guess we will see Monday night.

I will however pretend to be pulling for VT here in the compound. Mrs. Compound went to school down the road at Radford and two brothers with degrees from VT. I find college football entertaining. It is life and death for the Mrs. and I don’t have the guts to openly cheer for Boise at the house.

No comment…

Karel De Gucht, the European trade commissioner,…

“On Thursday, with the Middle East peace process in the news, Mr. De Gucht picked yet another fight. Jews, he told Belgian radio, have a “belief” that they are “always right.” He described his frustration at debating the Middle East because “it is not easy even with a moderate Jew to have a conversation.”

He continued: “Don’t underestimate the power of the Jewish lobby in the capital. That is best organized lobby in the states. And they have an influence on politicians, Republicans and Democrats.””

[Link: blogs.wsj.com…]

re: #196 compound idaho

What you all say is true, but the big time schools could put an end to BSU bragging rights for years to come by stepping up and thumping them during in a non conference game. I guess we will see Monday night.

I will however pretend to be pulling for VT here in the compound. Mrs. Compound went to school down the road at Radford and two brothers with degrees from VT. I find college football entertaining. It is life and death for the Mrs. and I don’t have the guts to openly cheer for Boise at the house.

Boise’s in real trouble. Stopping a marquee power running attack isn’t their forté, and VaTech can play big-boy defense.

Morning Lizards,
Gonna be hot today but summer is gasping. Nights are beginning to cool down and the daytime temps are reluctantly following.
Hopefully, I’ll watch a little college ball today. I’d like to see a little Texas and UCLA. Did I ever mention I was a long time UCLA season ticket holder? That was a while back.
Hope all your favorite team win today.

re: #197 Walter L. Newton

yeesh.

re: #196 compound idaho

Boise State could get lots of big name schools to play them if they just tried a more subtle message:
OU - Pussies!
Cornhuskers? Cornholers is more like it.
Longhorns? Bunch of roping steers.

Next season’s schedule could be quite interesting then.

re: #195 darthstar

They still are: see health care, food stamps, social security. Guns are good, though.

And I’m sure every one of those rejected rifles is in pristine condition, and by no means would the entire shipment consist of rusted-out, unusable garbage with rotten stocks and missing parts. Because man, if there’s anything South Koreans can’t get rid of fast enough, it’s a million rifles that work.

re: #199 Semper Fi

Morning Lizards,
Gonna be hot today but summer is gasping. Nights are beginning to cool down and the daytime temps are reluctantly following.
Hopefully, I’ll watch a little college ball today. I’d like to see a little Texas and UCLA. Did I ever mention I was a long time UCLA season ticket holder? That was a while back.
Hope all your favorite team win today.

yeah, that UCLA game is interesting. i don’t know what to expect from them this year.

Texas needs to run the ball if they’re going to have a chance to beat OU later…

re: #191 negativ

How about because THE US GOV’T DOESN’T WANT OR NEED NEARLY 1 MILLION M1s.

I’m sure they did ship tens of thousands in the early 90s. We didn’t need, want, or use them then, either.

WASTEFUL SPENDING. Remember when conservatives used to get pathologically turgid over that?

Those are usually bought by collectors. I don’t see where this would be wasteful spending anyway. Those would be sold pretty quickly.

Now this is wasteful spending:

Prof Gets $700K in Stimulus Cash to Write Jokes

Here’s a knee-slapper for you: A Northwestern University professor has snagged $712,883 worth of stimulus funds for his efforts to teach computers how to create jokes. Kristian Hammond and his grad students are working on a “machine-generated humor” project that aims to create “structured queries that lead to interesting, factual juxtapositions of ideas that lead to a humorous outcome … sometimes.”

The program has drawn budget hawk ire, the Chicago Sun-Times reports, with John McCain listing it as his 36th most wasteful stimulus project. “Why do we need to pay for a joke machine, when we already have Congress?” asked one conservative blog. But Hammond says the project will have important benefits beyond making jokes, saying that ultimately this type of automated content generation will become the new search engine. “We’re modeling human cognitive skills on a machine,” he protests. “This is hard-core computer engineering. … I’m not really that funny of a guy.”

re: #201 darthstar

Boise State could get lots of big name schools to play them if they just tried a more subtle message:
OU - Pussies!
Cornhuskers? Cornholers is more like it.
Longhorns? Bunch of roping steers.

Next season’s schedule could be quite interesting then.

I don’t keep up with sports much at all… but unless I’m mistaken, don’t the three teams you mentioned above usually beat the snot out of most other teams?

re: #204 NJDhockeyfan

“We’re modeling human cognitive skills on a machine,” he protests. “This is hard-core computer engineering. … I’m not really that funny of a guy.”

You do understand what cognition is, right?

re: #206 darthstar

You do understand what cognition is, right?

The stimulus money was for creating jobs, right? How many jobs did the joke machine create so far?

re: #205 Walter L. Newton

I don’t keep up with sports much at all… but unless I’m mistaken, don’t the three teams you mentioned above usually beat the snot out of most other teams?

Only because they sand-bag and play against schools with weak teams.
/
(and THAT is how you start a proper fight in the morning…people love their college teams more than their own children)

re: #203 Aceofwhat?

yeah, that UCLA game is interesting. i don’t know what to expect from them this year.

Texas needs to run the ball if they’re going to have a chance to beat OU later…

Your UCLA comment is so true. Seems it’s that way at the beginning of each year. How will they do? Who’s gonna be the QB? Do we have someone who can run the ball? Stuff like that.

I’m hoping Texas has an outstanding year. One of my favorite teams.

re: #206 darthstar

You do understand what cognition is, right?

yep. and it’s not the sort of thing that is so critical to our economy or environment that i need to be funding it out of my pocket.

programming, at the moment, doesn’t need to be funded in such an ethereal fashion. we have actual crises to solve. NJD is right…this is dumber than your average Washington Times column.

re: #207 NJDhockeyfan

The stimulus money was for creating jobs, right? How many jobs did the joke machine create so far?

“job” doesn’t only mean ditch-digger.

re: #208 darthstar

Only because they sand-bag and play against schools with weak teams.
/
(and THAT is how you start a proper fight in the morning…people love their college teams more than their own children)

updinged for sports trolling…it’s CFB season, baby!!

re: #211 darthstar

“job” doesn’t only mean ditch-digger.

pointless stimulus is pointless

re: #209 Semper Fi

Your UCLA comment is so true. Seems it’s that way at the beginning of each year. How will they do? Who’s gonna be the QB? Do we have someone who can run the ball? Stuff like that.

I’m hoping Texas has an outstanding year. One of my favorite teams.

Hopefully with the Kiffins in town and the probation in effect, UCLA can make inroads into USC recruiting. I quite dislike the Trojans.

re: #213 Aceofwhat?

pointless stimulus is pointless

True, but buying 700,000 dollars in hardware supports the computer industry, and I’d assume they weren’t buying Toshibas.

re: #211 darthstar

“job” doesn’t only mean ditch-digger.

I’m sure all those millions of unemployed folks are so impressed by this joke machine. I may quit my job so they can get more money.
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re: #215 darthstar

The three-year stimulus grant funds four full-time jobs, pays for equipment and provides tuition and small stipends to two graduate assistants.

Here are the facts. Posted with no idea of it’s merits.

re: #204 NJDhockeyfan

Those are usually bought by collectors. I don’t see where this would be wasteful spending anyway. Those would be sold pretty quickly.

Then let the collectors buy them. Why does the US Gov’t need to be the middle man?

re: #208 darthstar

Only because they sand-bag and play against schools with weak teams.
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(and THAT is how you start a proper fight in the morning…people love their college teams more than their own children)

Well… if you are lying just to start a fight… what ever, I don’t know enough about what they do, don’t do, or how they do it… all I know is they leave most teams in the dust.

You sort of just described the liberal’s over all campaign strategy “sand-bag and play against” the “weak”.

Assumptions are stinkin thinkin.

re: #173 Aceofwhat?

I don’t know if they’re questioning the story…i think that the story is legit, but the spin seems funny. I can still go down to the gun store and buy a gun, right? I don’t understand why it would be a “ban” if i can still buy the same gun that i could yesterday…

If this is like the sale in the ’80s, the M1s would probably have been resold by the government through the Civilian Marksmanship Program run out of Anniston Army Depot and Camp Perry. Don’t tell anyone, but right now anyone who joins the program (easy for vets) can get an M1 carbine for less than 500 bucks. There are a lot of details missing from these reports, perhaps innocently.

(When I sell off a couple handguns, I might visit my daughter in Anniston and see what’s available there. Those are the only two locations where CMP works over-the counter. Everyone else has to trust their grading system for online sales.)

re: #215 darthstar

True, but buying 700,000 dollars in hardware supports the computer industry, and I’d assume they weren’t buying Toshibas.

yes. God forbid we spend 700,000 on something like software to improve energy efficiency. let’s improve search engines. i mean, it’s not like there are any private industries making money in the search engine business, so by all means, let’s subsidize it.

re: #217 Jeff In Ohio

Here are the facts. Posted with no idea of it’s merits.

Four full time jobs for three years, plus small stipends (figure 5,000 for a semester or something like that). If 100k was spent on equipment, then that would leave about 200k/year - divide by four, that’s about 50k per job. Not too wasteful…50k isn’t a lot of money these days.

re: #221 Decatur Deb

If this is like the sale in the ’80s, the M1s would probably have been resold by the government through the Civilian Marksmanship Program run out of Anniston Army Depot and Camp Perry. Don’t tell anyone, but right now anyone who joins the program (easy for vets) can get an M1 carbine for less than 500 bucks. There are a lot of details missing from these reports, perhaps innocently.

(When I sell off a couple handguns, I might visit my daughter in Anniston and see what’s available there. Those are the only two locations where CMP works over-the counter. Everyone else has to trust their grading system for online sales.)

very interesting…thanks.

re: #214 Aceofwhat?

Hopefully with the Kiffins in town and the probation in effect, UCLA can make inroads into USC recruiting. I quite dislike the Trojans.

As I’m a Bruin fan I’m sure you can guess how I feel about the Trojans. Regarding the Bruins, I’ve long thought they need to dispel that “Gutty Bruins” thing and just WIN.

re: #224 Aceofwhat?

very interesting…thanks.

Here’s a link to CMP:

[Link: www.google.com…]

Palestinian Leader Rebuffs Netanyahu’s Call for A ‘Jewish State’

Behind the polite talk at Thursday’s re-launch of direct Israeli-Palestinian negotiations at the State Department was a deep gulf on what Israel calls a make-or-break issue – Palestinian recognition of Israel as a Jewish state.

…Left unsaid was the fact that neither in 1993 nor since then has the PLO agreed to recognize Israel specifically as a Jewish state.

On the contrary, Abbas and other Palestinian leaders have repeatedly rejected this Israeli requirement.

“Palestinians reject the demand to recognize Israel as a Jewish state,” PLO Executive Committee member Wassel Abu Yousef told reporters in Ramallah less than a fortnight ago, after Netanyahu told his cabinet that “recognition of Israel as the national state of the Jewish people” was a necessary component of a peaceful settlement to the conflict.

At a landmark convention in Bethlehem last year, Abbas’ Fatah faction of the PLO adopted a platform rejecting recognition of Israel as a Jewish state.

Lovely example of tolerance from the Palis.

re: #223 darthstar

Four full time jobs for three years, plus small stipends (figure 5,000 for a semester or something like that). If 100k was spent on equipment, then that would leave about 200k/year - divide by four, that’s about 50k per job. Not too wasteful…50k isn’t a lot of money these days.

it’s wasteful given the idiotic product ostensibly being developed, not because we’re afraid that someone is seekritly getting rich. don’t we have, like, green energy to develop?

re: #222 Aceofwhat?

Look at Jeff’s 217…it’s really a small grant when you break it down.

re: #204 NJDhockeyfan
NU prof: Computer research no joke

hey’re working to create programs that mimic how people think when searching for information to create original, sometimes funny, content. The goal is to teach a computer to find information based on what you are working on, where you are located and what you’re reading, among other things, without even having to ask for it. And one day, Hammond says, that type of automated content generation will replace modern search engines.

Hammond made the research proposal about humor because it’s an “interesting human dynamic” that’s attractive to very smart students who otherwise might not consider being involved in an artificial intelligence programming research project.

…and conservatives wonder why they’re labeled as anti-science.

re: #225 Semper Fi

I can’t watch the Trojans play…the games just lose their sensitivity.

re: #230 Killgore Trout

NU prof: Computer research no joke

…and conservatives wonder why they’re labeled as anti-science.

like i said above…good thing there aren’t any private companies working furiously to develop a better search mousetrap.

…and democrats wonder why they’re labeled as economically illiterate.

re: #229 darthstar

Look at Jeff’s 217…it’s really a small grant when you break it down.

it’s 700,000. i don’t care how they split it up. it’s 700k spent developing something that the private sector is all over.

if this guy was on to something, Google or Yahoo would have been all over it.

economic FAIL

re: #231 darthstar

I can’t watch the Trojans play…the games just lose their sensitivity.

Lol.

So true…

re: #231 darthstar

I can’t watch the Trojans play…the games just lose their sensitivity.

best team that money can buy!!

I love talking football but much to do today before I can sit down to catch a game.

Hope everyone has a great holiday weekend.

re: #236 Semper Fi

I love talking football but much to do today before I can sit down to catch a game.

Hope everyone has a great holiday weekend.

be well

re: #204 NJDhockeyfan

Those are usually bought by collectors. I don’t see where this would be wasteful spending anyway. Those would be sold pretty quickly.

Now this is wasteful spending:

Prof Gets $700K in Stimulus Cash to Write Jokes

That’s a real good example of Intentionally Missing The Point (I just made that up, don’t fall all over yourself in awe). Here’s the part you didn’t quote:

They’re working to create programs that mimic how people think when searching for information to create original, sometimes funny, content. The goal is to teach a computer to find information based on what you are working on, where you are located and what you’re reading, among other things, without even having to ask for it. And one day, Hammond says, that type of automated content generation will replace modern search engines.

Hammond made the research proposal about humor because it’s an “interesting human dynamic” that’s attractive to very smart students who otherwise might not consider being involved in an artificial intelligence programming research project.

So far, Hammond’s group has dozens of programs in development, and they’ve filed intellectual property patent applications for some of their work. The three-year stimulus grant funds four full-time jobs, pays for equipment and provides tuition and small stipends to two graduate assistants.

Groundbreaking research? check
Attracting college students to new fields? check
Jobs? check
Creating whole new industries? Maybe.

From the first paragraph, you’d have to be pretty dense not to see how that could go far beyond “search engines” and well into the realm of “helping disabled people regain some independence”.

We’re way way way way wayyy behind the rest of the 1st world in terms of scientific literacy. This should be a source of profound national shame, but somehow it isn’t. Of all the beefs I have with the GOP and conservatives in general, their gleeful mockery, demonization, and grotesque oversimplification of scientific endeavors remains at the top of the list.

re: #232 Aceofwhat?

like i said above…good thing there aren’t any private companies working furiously to develop a better search mousetrap.

…and democrats wonder why they’re labeled as economically illiterate.

No, Ace. This is an attempt to solve the natural language problem— among other things. This is basic science research. Search engine companies are working on refining their algorithms; the basic science of this type is not yet mature enough to actually be worth the investment of private companies.

This is the typical pattern: The government sponsors the basic science research, huge breakthroughs are made, and then are exploited by private companies refining them. Google’s patented algorithms, and their secret ones, are not groundbreaking new ones, but based off of public work. The algorithm was developed by— gasp— Stanford University, and licensed by Google.

re: #239 Obdicut

No, Ace. This is an attempt to solve the natural language problem— among other things. This is basic science research. Search engine companies are working on refining their algorithms; the basic science of this type is not yet mature enough to actually be worth the investment of private companies.

This is the typical pattern: The government sponsors the basic science research, huge breakthroughs are made, and then are exploited by private companies refining them. Google’s patented algorithms, and their secret ones, are not groundbreaking new ones, but based off of public work. The algorithm was developed by— gasp— Stanford University, and licensed by Google.

really? you mean it was licensed for free by Google? they just walked in and said “hey, hand over the license you knobs”?

good grief

re: #239 Obdicut

I’d like to note that it was the founders of Google who developed the algorithm— along with others— at Stanford. Being in an academic environment, free to pursue interesting research, is what leads to breakthroughs like this.

re: #241 Obdicut

I’d like to note that it was the founders of Google who developed the algorithm— along with others— at Stanford. Being in an academic environment, free to pursue interesting research, is what leads to breakthroughs like this.

oops, that would mean they were developing something that actually DID have commercial potential.

like
i
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re: #240 Aceofwhat?

really? you mean it was licensed for free by Google? they just walked in and said “hey, hand over the license you knobs”?

good grief

What are you talking about? This is the standard way stuff works:

Really smart dudes at a University develop some cool stuff. The university holds the patent on it, but licenses it to them (for money) and they take it and make a cool company out of it, having been able to develop the awesome idea inside an academic environment first.

What are you saying ‘good grief’ about, exactly?

re: #242 Aceofwhat?

oops, that would mean they were developing something that actually DID have commercial potential.

like
i
said

This has huge commerical potential, Ace. But it’s not mature yet.

Do you not get the whole basic science —> applied science pathway?

The reason why we kick ass in patents and technology is our combination of government, academic, and private research. Private industry sucks at doing basic science, academic and government research sucks at exploiting that research economically. It’s a wonderful, symbiotic relationship.

re: #238 negativ

I thought about explaining to NJD how the research could help disabled people, but I was afraid it would be too ironic.
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re: #243 Obdicut

What are you talking about? This is the standard way stuff works:

Really smart dudes at a University develop some cool stuff. The university holds the patent on it, but licenses it to them (for money) and they take it and make a cool company out of it, having been able to develop the awesome idea inside an academic environment first.

What are you saying ‘good grief’ about, exactly?

it’s a great system you outlined there. my favorite part is where you didn’t have to insert “magically funded with extra tax dollars”, because the system that you outlined usually does the trick.

sure, some fields do require extra seed money. search engines= not one of them, at least not at present.

re: #233 Aceofwhat?

it’s 700,000. i don’t care how they split it up. it’s 700k spent developing something that the private sector is all over.

if this guy was on to something, Google or Yahoo would have been all over it.

economic FAIL

How exactly do you think Google got started in the first place, how was PageRank developed? Hint, it involved grants from the National Science Foundation and other federal agencies.

re: #246 Aceofwhat?

Except that universities do get funded by tax dollars, Ace. Stanford as well as other places. Stanford’s private, and has its own endownment, but it still gets mad government grants, and the students there get government-sponsered scholarships and loans.

sure, some fields do require extra seed money. search engines= not one of them, at least not at present.

Well, it’s a good thing he’s not research search engines, then, isn’t it?

re: #244 Obdicut

This has huge commerical potential, Ace. But it’s not mature yet.

Do you not get the whole basic science —> applied science pathway?

The reason why we kick ass in patents and technology is our combination of government, academic, and private research. Private industry sucks at doing basic science, academic and government research sucks at exploiting that research economically. It’s a wonderful, symbiotic relationship.

so, wait - the basic science that the google founders turned into applied science didn’t make them any money?

hint for obdicut: not all basic science is so urgently necessary that it needs extra tax dollars.

re: #245 darthstar

I thought about explaining to NJD how the research could help disabled people, but I was afraid it would be too ironic.
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Explain to me how this is helping the terrible unemployment situation was are currently in. That is what the stimulus bill was for, wasn’t it?