Rage Candy for the Teabag Base

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The Washington Times just keeps getting crazier and crazier: KUHNER: President’s socialist takeover must be stopped.

President Obama has engaged in numerous high crimes and misdemeanors. The Democratic majority in Congress is in peril as Americans reject his agenda. Yet more must be done: Mr. Obama should be impeached.

He is slowly - piece by painful piece - erecting a socialist dictatorship. We are not there - yet. But he is putting America on that dangerous path. He is undermining our constitutional system of checks and balances; subverting democratic procedures and the rule of law; presiding over a corrupt, gangster regime; and assaulting the very pillars of traditional capitalism. Like Venezuela’s leftist strongman, Hugo Chavez, Mr. Obama is bent on imposing a revolution from above - one that is polarizing America along racial, political and ideological lines. Mr. Obama is the most divisive president since Richard Nixon. His policies are Balkanizing the country. It’s time for him to go.

Of course, they’re competing in the current right wing marketplace, so it’s pretty much impossible for them to get too crazy. The teabagger base gobbles up this rage candy and goes looking for more.

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224 comments
1 GatorAtLaw  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 10:46:54am

Its sad that this doesn’t even raise my eyebrows anymore.

2 jaunte  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 10:57:40am
To provide the shock troops for his socialist takeover, Mr. Obama calls for “comprehensive immigration reform” - granting amnesty to 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens. This would forge a permanent Democratic electoral majority. It would sound the death knell for our national sovereignty.


“Shock troops…socialist takeover…death knell…”
Good grief. You can almost hear the spittle hitting the screen.

3 aagcobb  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 10:58:17am

Not surprising that the newspaper which employed RSM printed such a racist article. At the end, he even threw a bone to the birthers, calling the President the “usurper”.

4 Jeff In Ohio  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 10:59:14am

Accusations without facts: it’s all these assholes got anymore.

Impeach due to high crimes and misdemeanors: what high crimes and misdemeanors? Some namby pamby bullshit about creeping socialism?

5 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:00:14am

That’s some weapons grade crazy he’s go there.

6 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:00:54am
Impeachment is the only answer. This usurper must fall.


Idiots.

7 Four More Tears  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:03:29am
It’s time for him to go.

I’m pretty sure the Constitution has this one covered…

8 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:03:30am

Some titles of Kuhners previous stories at the Moonie Times:

# KUHNER: Bloomberg for president?
Published August 26 2010

# KUHNER: Obama’s Islamic agenda
Published August 19 2010

# KUHNER: Why God is great
Published August 12 2010

# KUHNER: Radical Islam’s conquest of America
Published August 5 2010

# KUHNER: Should Arizona secede?
Published July 29 2010

# KUHNER: President’s socialist takeover must be stopped
Published July 22 2010

# KUHNER: Why Obama is a cultural Muslim
Published July 8 2010

# KUHNER: Who lost Afghanistan?
Published June 24 2010

# KUHNER: Christophobia
Published April 2 2010

9 Surabaya Stew  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:03:41am

re: #4 Jeff In Ohio

Accusations without facts: it’s all these assholes got anymore.

Impeach due to high crimes and misdemeanors: what high crimes and misdemeanors? Some namby pamby bullshit about creeping socialism?

It was never about facts, only their unjustifiable anger about a black dem taking over the oval office. They wish to destroy Obama because they hate people like him; facts or logic or the good of the nation be damned!

There are other BS reasons for the current spate of wingnut madness of course, but this is the main one. Always remember that.

10 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:03:53am

re: #1 GatorAtLaw

Its sad that this doesn’t even raise my eyebrows anymore.

It used to be that people that said stuff like this were the ones that mumbled to themselves on the crosstown bus. What happened?

11 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:04:31am

re: #1 GatorAtLaw

Its sad that this doesn’t even raise my eyebrows anymore.

I’m more of a head shaker.

Meanwhile, when you ask what Obama is actually doing to bring in this communist dictatorship (oh sorry “socialist” dictatorship), you get an icy stare and more rhetoric. Go ask a Tbagger.

Could it be stopping the usury scam of credit card companies that’s pissing them off?

Could it be the stimulus which nearly every economist admits, without it we would have been in a full blown depression?

Could it be healthcare? Because God forbid the poor have affordable access to services.

How about beefing up enforcement on workplace safety and employers trying to scam their workers out of pay and benefits?

Or how he’s been more aggressive on clean energy and auto-emissions legislation.

Or maybe how he’s making moves to clean up corruption and practices in the mining and oil industries to make them safer?

Eh, but who cares about facts anyway.

12 Four More Tears  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:04:48am

re: #10 PT Barnum

It used to be that people that said stuff like this were the ones that mumbled to themselves on the crosstown bus. What happened?

They got blogs.

13 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:04:49am

Some background on Kuhner:

Anatomy of an anonymous political smear - Americas - International Herald Tribune
By David D. Kirkpatrick
Published: Monday, January 29, 2007

WASHINGTON — Jeffrey Kuhner, whose Web site published the first anonymous smear of the 2008 presidential race, is hardly the only editor who will not reveal his reporters’ sources. What sets him apart is that he will not even disclose the names of his reporters.

But their anonymity has not stopped them from making an impact. In the last two weeks, Kuhner’s Web site, Insight, the last remnant of a defunct conservative print magazine owned by the Unification Church led by the Reverend Sun Myung Moon, was able to set off a wave of television commentary, talk-radio chatter, official denials, investigations by journalists around the globe and news media self-analysis that has lasted 12 days and counting.

The controversy started with a quickly discredited Jan. 17 article on the Insight Web site asserting that the presidential campaign of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton was preparing an accusation that her rival Senator Barack Obama had covered up a brief period he had spent in an Islamic religious school in Indonesia when he was 6.

Continues.

14 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:06:03am

re: #13 Gus 802

From linked article:

And the Fox News rival MSNBC has picked up several of Insight’s other recent anonymous “scoops.” Among them: that Bush was afraid to fire his adviser Karl Rove because “he knows too much”; that there is a rift between Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice over the president’s support for Israel; and that Bush spent the months before the midterm elections in a bunker mentality focused on the Iraq war and the elections to the exclusion of all else. Kuhner has appeared as a guest on both networks.

15 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:06:18am

re: #12 JasonA

They got blogs.

Ah yes teh Intertubes, the legitimization of cranks everywhere.

16 Locker  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:06:47am

It’s easy to lie to an audience that never asks How? when line after line of ridiculous accusations are spouted at maximum volume. Dumb asses believe what they want to believe.

17 jaunte  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:07:24am

re: #8 Gus 802

# KUHNER: Why God is great
Published August 12 2010

Kuhner thinks God is great because Hitchens is going to die.

18 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:07:50am

re: #9 Surabaya Stew

It was never about facts, only their unjustifiable anger about a black dem taking over the oval office. They wish to destroy Obama because they hate people like him; facts or logic or the good of the nation be damned!

There are other BS reasons for the current spate of wingnut madness of course, but this is the main one. Always remember that.

Who is “their?” Bullshit. I don’t like him because of his policies… not because he’s “a black dem.”

Put your broad brush back in it’s case.

19 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:07:59am

Yeah. Should be interesting to see next time someone links to a Washington Times article to tick people off here at LGF. (Cough)

This must be the 12th article regarding the BS coming from that slimy rag.

20 TedStriker  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:08:26am

re: #13 Gus 802

Some background on Kuhner:

Anatomy of an anonymous political smear - Americas - International Herald Tribune
By David D. Kirkpatrick
Published: Monday, January 29, 2007

So, that’s where that shit came from….what a wingnut hack.

21 jamesfirecat  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:08:32am

Do they even bother to give examples of how he’s doing these things, or do they just take it for granted that he is?

22 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:08:46am

re: #16 Locker

It’s easy to lie to an audience that never asks How? when line after line of ridiculous accusations are spouted at maximum volume. Dumb asses believe what they want to believe.

It’s all a Jerry Springer, dog and pony show.

23 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:09:05am

re: #21 jamesfirecat

Do they even bother to give examples of how he’s doing these things, or do they just take it for granted that he is?

It’s real simple.
Dem=CommieSocialistUsurper.

24 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:09:11am

re: #21 jamesfirecat

Do they even bother to give examples of how he’s doing these things, or do they just take it for granted that he is?

Declaration is all that’s required in wingnutland. It’s enough for us to say it’s true and up to you to prove that it isn’t.

25 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:09:25am

re: #17 jaunte

# KUHNER: Why God is great
Published August 12 2010

Kuhner thinks God is great because Hitchens is going to die.

Yeah. He’s another a-hole when it comes to Hitchens.

26 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:10:09am

re: #21 jamesfirecat

Do they even bother to give examples of how he’s doing these things, or do they just take it for granted that he is?

Glenn Beck has been saying this stuff on TV every night for two years now. They just accept it as fact.

27 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:11:34am

re: #25 Gus 802

Yeah. He’s another a-hole when it comes to Hitchens.

I take offense to that remark.

“Are you Kuhner?”

No, I’m an a-hole.

28 Boondock St. Bender  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:11:47am

hmmm…lets replace the name obama with clinton…wow!
it’s 1994 again!

29 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:11:59am

re: #17 jaunte

# KUHNER: Why God is great
Published August 12 2010

Kuhner thinks God is great because Hitchens is going to die.

That just makes God look like a vindictive asshole.

30 jamesfirecat  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:12:36am

re: #24 PT Barnum

Declaration is all that’s required in wingnutland. It’s enough for us to say it’s true and up to you to prove that it isn’t.

Remind me to post the Jon Oliver bit on life before Habeas Corpus, except wait… some law buff, which came first, the idea of Habeas Corpus or “innocent until proven guilty”?

31 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:12:54am

re: #21 jamesfirecat

Do they even bother to give examples of how he’s doing these things, or do they just take it for granted that he is?

They’re hallucinating and it also involves a great deal of knee jerk. If Obama’s a socialist in the historical sense he’s got to be the laziest socialist “dictator” ever. Of course, normal people like us know that he’s not a socialist. In fact, he’s not even that far to the left.

32 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:13:31am

re: #21 jamesfirecat

Do they even bother to give examples of how he’s doing these things, or do they just take it for granted that he is?

Well James, if you bothered to read the WHOLE article, the author does give examples. Agree with them or not (I basically don’t, this is a lot of hyperbole), but you can’t say he isn’t giving examples.

33 Boondock St. Bender  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:13:42am

re: #29 Varek Raith

I wonder who kuhner blames when something horrible happens to him?
(besides obama that is…)

34 Jeff In Ohio  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:14:09am

re: #9 Surabaya Stew

I see that.

It’s the sum total of the completely outrageous assertions, in addition to the really really stupid ones (see the current brouhaha over the Oval Office Rug) and the ones that sound plausible, but are in fact just as ridiculous - Grahams assertion this morning that the agenda Obama campaigned on was not the agenda he has pushed after taking office, or the bullshit how nothing has been accomplished by this President and Congress, and if there was something accomplished, somehow it AND IT ALONE is responsible for the struggling economy. Coupled with dumbass stories posted in thread at LGF with conclusions that have nothing to do with the story posted…

really, liars or idiots or trolls. Take your choice.

35 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:14:14am

re: #33 Boondock St. Bender

I wonder who kuhner blames when something horrible happens to him?
(besides obama that is…)

Who else. Satan. /

36 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:14:15am

re: #4 Jeff In Ohio

Accusations without facts: it’s all these assholes got anymore.

Impeach due to high crimes and misdemeanors: what high crimes and misdemeanors? Some namby pamby bullshit about creeping socialism?

Being really, really annoying has GOT to be a high crime or misdemeanor. It’s just got to!

/

37 Boondock St. Bender  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:15:10am

re: #35 Gus 802

Saaa-taaan??!(gotta say it like the church lady)

38 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:15:14am

re: #4 Jeff In Ohio

Accusations without facts: it’s all these assholes got anymore.

Impeach due to high crimes and misdemeanors: what high crimes and misdemeanors? Some namby pamby bullshit about creeping socialism?

Spent about six years explaining to people that you can hate George W. Bush as much as you want, but you can’t impeach him for that.

Seems that not only was the lesson not learned, but the concept became fashionable.

39 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:16:07am

The Todd Palin-RS McCain post is featured at Reddit.com and it’s driving thousands of hits to LGF:

[Link: www.reddit.com…]

(If anyone would like to comment in that thread, it’s pretty easy to register there.)

40 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:16:18am

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Glenn Beck has been saying this stuff on TV every night for two years now. They just accept it as fact.

Charles’ last video from Chase Whiteside, the fellow who does those tea party interviews really cracked me up at one point.

Chase tells a group of about 5 people that Beck called Obama a racist.

First man: That’s a lie! He never said such a thing!

Lady: I never heard that!

Next person: I can’t believe that is true!

Chase turns to the last woman: Did you ever hear Beck say Obama is a racist?

Woman:… pauses… “No.”

lol

41 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:16:40am

re: #11 marjoriemoon

I’m more of a head shaker.

Meanwhile, when you ask what Obama is actually doing to bring in this communist dictatorship (oh sorry “socialist” dictatorship), you get an icy stare and more rhetoric. Go ask a Tbagger.

Could it be stopping the usury scam of credit card companies that’s pissing them off?

Could it be the stimulus which nearly every economist admits, without it we would have been in a full blown depression?

Could it be healthcare? Because God forbid the poor have affordable access to services.

How about beefing up enforcement on workplace safety and employers trying to scam their workers out of pay and benefits?

Or how he’s been more aggressive on clean energy and auto-emissions legislation.

Or maybe how he’s making moves to clean up corruption and practices in the mining and oil industries to make them safer?

Eh, but who cares about facts anyway.

I think last time I asked, I got to hear about Cash for Clunkers again.

42 Boondock St. Bender  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:16:48am

re: #38 SanFranciscoZionist

it’s the latest craze
witch hunt clinton
witch hunt bush
now witch hunt obama

43 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:17:33am

Right. He “gives examples.” And BP is now owned by the Federal government.

/

44 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:17:47am

Oh, I see. It’s not just ‘socialism’, it’s ‘multicultural socialism’. Which, I expect, is worse.

What the hell does that even mean?

45 jamesfirecat  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:18:06am

re: #32 Walter L. Newton

Well James, if you bothered to read the WHOLE article, the author does give examples. Agree with them or not (I basically don’t, this is a lot of hyperbole), but you can’t say he isn’t giving examples.


Lets take a look….

“Yet Obamacare’s most pernicious aspect is its federal funding of abortion. “

GAH!

If you can oppose that then a CO who is morally opposed to the military industrial complex, I deserve a special tax break so that none of their taxes go to support our armed forces.

We won’t agree (either economically or morally) with every bit of government spending, get over it.

46 TedStriker  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:18:16am

re: #21 jamesfirecat

Do they even bother to give examples of how he’s doing these things, or do they just take it for granted that he is?

I find it ironic that right-wing pundits (especially Rush) used to say that the Democrats (and “liberals”, in particular) staked out their policy positions and such using their “emotions” (pushing “feel-good” policies) and polling to see which way the political winds blew, not by facts and logic.

Nowadays, Rush and right-wingers more hardcore than he is are doing the same thing, only in reverse; instead of “feel-good” stuff, it’s “feel-bad”, because is nothing but the most destructive and corrosive of emotions seem to be coming from them these days…and facts are pretty light on their arguments.

Bad craziness, indeed.

47 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:18:32am

re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist

I think last time I asked, I got to hear about Cash for Clunkers again.

Please no! Not again. I am sick to death of hearing about Cash for Clunkers.

48 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:18:39am

re: #35 Gus 802

Who else. Satan. /

49 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:18:40am

re: #17 jaunte

# KUHNER: Why God is great
Published August 12 2010

Kuhner thinks God is great because Hitchens is going to die.

So is Kuhner. And so am I. I also believe that God is great, but I don’t see how Hitchen’s particular death, taken out of context, is any proof of that.

50 Batman  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:18:52am

If the next two years are anything like the last two years, we are in the clear. Just wait it out, loons. Try at least trying to sound sane so people will vote your way. Take a lesson from 2004.

51 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:19:00am

re: #43 Gus 802

Right. He “gives examples.” And BP is now owned by the Federal government.

/

Hey Gus… you see the part where I said I don’t agree with him and it’s a lot of hyperbole? But he does give examples. So, what’s you point. You’re agreeing with me?

52 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:19:21am

re: #21 jamesfirecat

Do they even bother to give examples of how he’s doing these things, or do they just take it for granted that he is?

There are plenty of examples. Somehow none of them are scaring me that badly.

53 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:19:37am

re: #51 Walter L. Newton

Hey Gus… you see the part where I said I don’t agree with him and it’s a lot of hyperbole? But he does give examples. So, what’s you point. You’re agreeing with me?

Yep. He gives examples and they’re stupid examples.

54 Jeff In Ohio  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:19:50am

re: #44 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, I see. It’s not just ‘socialism’, it’s ‘multicultural socialism’. Which, I expect, is worse.

What the hell does that even mean?

It means people who don’t look or act or pray or think or whose shit doesn’t smell like him and his are in charge.

Oh for a time when the impeachable offense was lying about getting a blow job.

55 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:21:03am

re: #45 jamesfirecat

Lets take a look…

“Yet Obamacare’s most pernicious aspect is its federal funding of abortion. “

GAH!

If you can oppose that then a CO who is morally opposed to the military industrial complex, I deserve a special tax break so that none of their taxes go to support our armed forces.

We won’t agree (either economically or morally) with every bit of government spending, get over it.

James, pay real close attention… did I say I agree with his examples? Did I say he is correct? You said he doesn’t give examples. With in the context of his article, he does, with in his concepts about Obama, he believes he is address his points.

So, why are you arguing with me?

56 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:21:20am

re: #53 Gus 802

Yep. He gives examples and they’re stupid examples.

Agreed.

57 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:21:44am

re: #45 jamesfirecat

Lets take a look…

“Yet Obamacare’s most pernicious aspect is its federal funding of abortion. “

GAH!

If you can oppose that then a CO who is morally opposed to the military industrial complex, I deserve a special tax break so that none of their taxes go to support our armed forces.

We won’t agree (either economically or morally) with every bit of government spending, get over it.

‘Obamacare’ federally funds abortion? Is this a new development?

58 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:23:02am

Someone’s going around to lots of blogs this weekend and posting ugly comments using my name with a link to LGF.

59 jamesfirecat  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:23:18am

re: #55 Walter L. Newton

James, pay real close attention… did I say I agree with his examples? Did I say he is correct? You said he doesn’t give examples. With in the context of his article, he does, with in his concepts about Obama, he believes he is address his points.

So, why are you arguing with me?

I’m not trying to argue with you Walter, I’m just reporting back to LGF in general what my scouting report into crazy territory uncovered in case anyone wants a cliff notes version of the examples given without having to read the entire thing….

60 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:24:34am

My husband wants to know if editors return articles to writers at the Washington Times with post-its saying ‘Not enough crazy’.

61 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:24:50am

re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist

I think last time I asked, I got to hear about Cash for Clunkers again.

And then there’s the Frank Dodd Financial Reform bill.

The Republicans were screaming about the banks and mortgage companies who lent to “deadbeats”, giving away virtual freebies to people who couldn’t afford their own homes and in the next breath, blaming the crisis on the homeowners for taking the mortgages.

And when Obama puts some ropes on the banks, you think they’d be happy? No way! Anti-capitalist pig dog!

62 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:25:28am

re: #44 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, I see. It’s not just ‘socialism’, it’s ‘multicultural socialism’. Which, I expect, is worse.

What the hell does that even mean?

Black socialists. Minority Democrats. Pick one.

63 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:27:03am

Seriously, can anyone explain to me why I keep seeing these assertions that ‘Obamacare’ gives federal funding to abortion? What are they talking about?

64 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:27:22am

Socialism!! I just woke up!! Stop it at all cost!! What?

65 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:27:29am

re: #62 marjoriemoon

Black socialists. Minority Democrats. Pick one.

Blacks and Hispanics!!11ty

[Insert tired old Rev. Jeremiah Wright quote here.]

66 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:27:56am

I’m off to kill something virtual…later…

67 Boondock St. Bender  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:28:14am

re: #58 Charles

Someone is apparently mad at daddy…
sad when people resort to that kind of non-sense.
character assasination is all too ramant on the net.

68 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:28:21am

re: #63 SanFranciscoZionist

Seriously, can anyone explain to me why I keep seeing these assertions that ‘Obamacare’ gives federal funding to abortion? What are they talking about?

It has to do with federal funding of Planned Parenthood.

69 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:29:00am

Test. (I know fail, save it)

70 Boondock St. Bender  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:30:04am

re: #69 Cannadian Club Akbar

no you passed…as a matter of fact,you wrecked the curve…we’ll see you at recess poindexter…

71 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:30:23am

re: #67 Boondock St. Bender

Someone is apparently mad at daddy…
sad when people resort to that kind of non-sense.
character assasination is all too ramant on the net.

Some strange people out there. I used to think it was younger folks doing that but I’ve come to learn that it can be anyone of any age. Some of the crazed stalkers are in their 60s.

72 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:30:25am

re: #58 Charles

Someone’s going around to lots of blogs this weekend and posting ugly comments using my name with a link to LGF.

I hate dinging you up on things like that, but I do in solidarity.

I don’t know how you do what you do, but I love ya for it.

73 cliffster  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:30:45am

Damn, that must be a good cupcake..

Image: cupcake.jpg

74 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:31:38am

re: #68 marjoriemoon

It has to do with federal funding of Planned Parenthood.

Obama didn’t introduce that.

75 Boondock St. Bender  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:32:48am

Well.gotta go to a pool party(poor me…)
you guys have fun!
Charles don’t let the d-bags get to you.

76 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:34:21am

re: #74 SanFranciscoZionist

Obama didn’t introduce that.

Well he made some amendments.

[Link: www.plannedparenthood.org…]

Notable items in the Obama FY2010 Budget include:

* Ends funding for ineffective abstinence-only programs (CBAE and Title V program)

* Provides $178 million for evidence-based comprehensive sex education programs that prevent teen pregnancy

* Provides a modest $10 million increase in the Title X family planning program, to a total of $317 million

* Extends access to basic health care to millions more women through the Medicaid State Option Family Planning Waiver

* Does not remove onerous restrictions on women’s ability to access the full range of reproductive health care

How horribly evil and communistic of him.

77 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:36:03am

re: #76 marjoriemoon

Well he made some amendments.

[Link: www.plannedparenthood.org…]

How horribly evil and communistic of him.

That money should be going to abstinence programs!!11ty

They work! Don’t they?!?

/

78 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:36:59am

re: #70 Boondock St. Bender

no you passed…as a matter of fact,you wrecked the curve…we’ll see you at recess poindexter…

Next to the swingset!! (restart helps)

79 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:37:41am

Wingnut alternative to Planned Parenthood.

Replace fluoride with saltpeter in the water supply.

/

80 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:37:56am

OK. My computer works. Let’s fight!!!

81 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:38:16am

re: #77 Gus 802

That money should be going to abstinence programs!!11ty

They work! Don’t they?!?

/

Yea, ask Bristol.

82 cliffster  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:38:16am

re: #77 Gus 802

That money should be going to abstinence programs!!11ty

They work! Don’t they?!?

/

I vote neither.

83 McSpiff  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:39:45am

re: #82 cliffster

No sex education?

84 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:41:19am

re: #83 McSpiff

No sex education?

Learn it the same way “we” did

Out on the street corner with a pile of French Post Cards !
//

85 jamesfirecat  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:41:41am

re: #80 Cannadian Club Akbar

Let’s fight!!!

Them’s fighting word!

86 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:41:42am

Btw, Charles, have you thought about posting a disclaimer on your front page somewhere that you don’t post anywhere on the net? Except for your twitter?

87 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:42:27am

My brother, who just borrowed money from me, and his friend, who has no money, are going to Coco Beach to skateboard. Nice life.

88 researchok  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:43:29am

re: #8 Gus 802

Some titles of Kuhners previous stories at the Moonie Times:

To be accurate, the articles are under opinion/commentary, not news.

Of course, the WT has no business publishing such drivel, but in doing so they have staked out their irrelevancy.

89 cliffster  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:44:08am

re: #83 McSpiff

No sex education?

biology?

90 Cineaste  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:44:09am

re: #4 Jeff In Ohio

Accusations without facts: it’s all these assholes got anymore.

Impeach due to high crimes and misdemeanors: what high crimes and misdemeanors? Some namby pamby bullshit about creeping socialism?

Well they wouldn’t want to bother letting facts get in the way of a good rant.

91 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:44:10am

re: #85 jamesfirecat

Them’s fighting word!

Shuttup, College boy!!!
///

92 McSpiff  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:46:09am

re: #89 cliffster

biology?

Biology, sociology, psychology, hell even economics. If your sex education is simply “penis goes here” you’re only teaching about 1% of the material.

93 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:47:02am

re: #92 McSpiff

Biology, sociology, psychology, hell even economics. If your sex education is simply “penis goes here” you’re only teaching about 1% of the material.

I thought size didn’t matter!

94 Surabaya Stew  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:47:09am

re: #18 Walter L. Newton

Who is “their?” Bullshit. I don’t like him because of his policies… not because he’s “a black dem.”

Put your broad brush back in it’s case.

The broad brush here is justified. Walter, I know you don’t hate Obama because he’s black, but the majority all the fire-breathing right-wingers that are a regular topic of discussion on LGF certainly do. (I’m not taking about rational R’s or unhappy true conservatives, that kind of dissatisfaction with Obama’s policies and decisions is fine.) What we’re dealing with is the extreme anger with the TP’ers and others that goes beyond CDS or BDS. The kind of anger that is hurting us now and will grow into greater violence across the land, with dead doctors and muslims that will haunt us forever after.

If if takes a broad brush to strike these fools down, I’m all for it.

95 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:47:23am

re: #88 researchok

To be accurate, the articles are under opinion/commentary, not news.

Of course, the WT has no business publishing such drivel, but in doing so they have staked out their irrelevancy.

The opinion and commentary at the Washington Times is what defined and defines the general zeitgeist of that paper. Without it it wouldn’t be the Washington Times. Hence they are in the business to publish that very thing — drivel.

1st Amendment rights still apply. I say that because outsiders may think I’m the type that would demand government control of such malarkey.

96 cliffster  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:47:33am

re: #92 McSpiff

Biology, sociology, psychology, hell even economics. If your sex education is simply “penis goes here” you’re only teaching about 1% of the material.

yeah, we gotta teach ‘em how to move-it move-it

97 Cineaste  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:47:38am

re: #11 marjoriemoon

Also, I love how they’re absolutely fit to be tied over the $20 billion that BP committed to claims through Ken Feinberg’s trust. Ken Feinberg was, of course, the person that everyone said did such an excellent job administering the claims after 9/11 - but sure let’s just refer to him as “an Obama appointee”. But the more important thing that they miss is that you are still entitled to sue BP if you want. You choose not to ask Feinberg to administer your claim and just walk down to the courthouse and file the papers. Nothing is stopping you.

But you’ll spend a decade fighting for every penny and by then you will have lost your livelihood, and possibly much more.

Obama didn’t subvert justice and rule of law with BP, just the opposite, he ensured fair treatment for all, under the law.

98 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:47:55am

re: #92 McSpiff

Biology, sociology, psychology, hell even economics. If your sex education is simply “penis goes here” you’re only teaching about 1% of the material.

Are there 3 arrows?
//

99 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:48:56am

re: #87 Cannadian Club Akbar

My brother, who just borrowed money from me, and his friend, who has no money, are going to Coco Beach to skateboard. Nice life.

Maybe they’re secretly going to be close Cape Canaveral

They DO sound like SPACE SHOTS, so they’re half way there!!

100 jamesfirecat  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:49:20am

re: #91 Cannadian Club Akbar

Shuttup, College boy!!!
///

Hey I’m “working out of a bar startup boy now!”

101 researchok  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:50:12am

re: #95 Gus 802

The opinion and commentary at the Washington Times is what defined and defines the general zeitgeist of that paper. Without it it wouldn’t be the Washington Times. Hence they are in the business to publish that very thing — drivel.

1st Amendment rights still apply. I say that because outsiders may think I’m the type that would demand government control of such malarkey.

I agree with you- as I noted, they have staked out their irrelevance.

I just don’t want anyone claim you or anyone else here is misrepresenting anything.

102 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:50:24am

re: #100 jamesfirecat

Hey I’m “working out of a bar startup boy now!”

I’ll have a Vodka Martini ,, neat ,, with olives

103 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:50:52am

re: #97 Cineaste

All right. Here is where I become an asshole. Obama jumped on the new oil rig fire quick. He did nothing for 54 days with BP.

104 deranged cat  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:50:54am

the trolls are everywhere!

105 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:51:24am

re: #104 deranged cat

the trolls are everywhere!

Stop hanging out under bridges!
/

106 Reginald Perrin  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:51:31am

re: #58 Charles

Someone’s going around to lots of blogs this weekend and posting ugly comments using my name with a link to LGF.

Curiouser and curiouser!” Cried Alice

107 cliffster  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:51:34am

re: #94 Surabaya Stew

There are of course people who don’t like Obama because he’s black. For the vast majority of people who dislike him, even for silly, “He should be impeached because he’s creating a socialist dictorship” reasons, it isn’t because he’s black. The knee-jerk, you-hate-obama-because-he’s-black bit is very damaging, in its own way, to race relations.

108 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:52:45am

re: #103 Cannadian Club Akbar

All right. Here is where I become an asshole. Obama jumped on the new oil rig fire quick. He did nothing for 54 days with BP.

That’s a reasonable crank in regards to a president.

109 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:53:42am

re: #103 Cannadian Club Akbar

All right. Here is where I become an asshole. Obama jumped on the new oil rig fire quick. He did nothing for 54 days with BP.

How do you, we, know? Dick Cheney would have had a secret meeting with the BP leadership and we would have never known about. Obama could have done the same thing. We’re not privy to everything in government.

110 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:53:53am

re: #108 SanFranciscoZionist

That’s a reasonable crank in regards to a president.

Because yes, now he cares.

111 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:54:53am

Are you fucking people kidding me?

112 lostlakehiker  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:55:00am

re: #4 Jeff In Ohio

Accusations without facts: it’s all these assholes got anymore.

Impeach due to high crimes and misdemeanors: what high crimes and misdemeanors? Some namby pamby bullshit about creeping socialism?

Indeed. Any comparison with what Chavez has done in VZ is more than a stretch, it’s sheer fantasy. In America, the State has not nationalized all possible competing news outlets. Mr. Obama is not into his second term, let alone third or fourth.

Our legal system has not been systematically turned into an instrument of oppression and one-party rule. There is no shadow police force. The economy hasn’t been gutted and the proceeds turned over to the ruling party.

Such fascist measures, dressed up as socialism or not, are simply not going to fly in America. Hardly anyone wants to implement them, and those who do keep silent for the most part because they are smart enough to see that some wishes are truly impossible dreams.

There was some agitated fantasizing from the left, during the hotter phases of the Iraq war, that Bush was getting set to decree himself President For Life.

Part of eternal vigilance in defense of liberty is resisting the impulse to cry “Wolf” every time you see a doggy.

113 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:55:26am

Please bring it.

114 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:56:01am

re: #111 Cannadian Club Akbar

Are you fucking people kidding me?

Come on. The right wing would have piled on Obama if he had “jumped” on BP the first day.

Obama attacks BP!!11ty Obama attacks private enterprise!!11ty

115 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:56:52am

re: #111 Cannadian Club Akbar

Are you fucking people kidding me?

About?

116 boxhead  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:56:56am

re: #18 Walter L. Newton

Who is “their?” Bullshit. I don’t like him because of his policies… not because he’s “a black dem.”

Which ones and why? Just curious.

117 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:57:28am

Breaking!

Obama has ham sandwich instead of talking to nation about BP!!11ty

118 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:57:38am

re: #107 cliffster

There are of course people who don’t like Obama because he’s black. For the vast majority of people who dislike him, even for silly, “He should be impeached because he’s creating a socialist dictorship” reasons, it isn’t because he’s black. The knee-jerk, you-hate-obama-because-he’s-black bit is very damaging, in its own way, to race relations.

There’s an undercurrent of racial discrimination in the Tea Party. Sometimes it’s blatant and sometimes it’s simmering, but it seems to always come out when you ask them whether he’s a Muslim.

119 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:57:53am

re: #114 Gus 802

Come on. The right wing would have piled on Obama if he had “jumped” on BP the first day.

Obama attacks BP!!11ty Obama attacks private enterprise!!11ty

Sorry, you don’t get piled on when you say, “How can we help”.

120 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:58:00am

re: #107 cliffster

The knee-jerk, you-hate-obama-because-he’s-black bit is very damaging,

As you stated, there are those that will never like anything he does simply due to his race

OTOH, what I highlighted of yours above is true also. imho, why they do it is to absolve themselves of debating with “you” the substantive differences in policy.
“It doesn’t matter what you say, you just don’t like anything he does because he’s black”!

121 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:58:20am

Breaking!

Obama wears wrong colored shirt to press conference about oil spill.

Allahpundit has the inside scoop.

122 Cineaste  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:58:41am

re: #103 Cannadian Club Akbar

All right. Here is where I become an asshole. Obama jumped on the new oil rig fire quick. He did nothing for 54 days with BP.

That’s more than a little hyperbolic. He held his first official address to the nation after 54 days but the federal government had been doing a lot prior to that. That being said, as many on both sides have pointed out, what exactly was Obama to do? Nobody had a way to fix the well. They didn’t even know it was leaking for several days. When another rig blew up, you can be damn sure everyone sat up and took notice but I’m not sure why that’s something to be upset about…

123 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:59:06am

re: #119 Cannadian Club Akbar

Sorry, you don’t get piled on when you say, “How can we help”.

They were there already. It’s called the Coast Guard. We’re not going to have to rehash the fact checking on this again are we?

124 pharmmajor  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 11:59:20am

Oh sweet Jesus… look, I disagree with the president’s economic policies, but I don’t go around accusing him of being a Socialist or rallying up nuts through inflammatory rhetoric. What happened to reasonable debate? What is wrong with these right-wing retards?

125 researchok  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:00:52pm

re: #117 Gus 802

Breaking!

Obama has ham sandwich instead of talking to nation about BP!!11ty

Obama eats ham??

Are you sure?

//

126 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:01:09pm

re: #118 marjoriemoon

There’s an undercurrent of racial discrimination in the Tea Party. Sometimes it’s blatant and sometimes it’s simmering, but it seems to always come out when you ask them whether he’s a Muslim.

Which leads to the Birther issue and the questioning of his loyalty to this country because he’s really from Africa.

Or how his father hated white people (??)

Personally, I discuss issues, but I see it there, simmering away.

127 jamesfirecat  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:01:11pm

re: #103 Cannadian Club Akbar

All right. Here is where I become an asshole. Obama jumped on the new oil rig fire quick. He did nothing for 54 days with BP.

I’m just glad it shows that he evidently is learning from his mistakes.

128 cliffster  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:01:21pm

re: #118 marjoriemoon

There’s an undercurrent of racial discrimination in the Tea Party. Sometimes it’s blatant and sometimes it’s simmering, but it seems to always come out when you ask them whether he’s a Muslim.

An “undercurrent of racial discrimination”? That sounds spooky. There’s an undercurrent of crying racism whenever people disagree with Obama. None of it is good.

129 Cineaste  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:01:26pm

re: #123 Gus 802

They were there already. It’s called the Coast Guard. We’re not going to have to rehash the fact checking on this again are we?

Facts? Who needs those when we know what we feel Obama did….

///

good grief

130 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:02:24pm

re: #124 pharmmajor

Oh sweet Jesus… look, I disagree with the president’s economic policies, but I don’t go around accusing him of being a Socialist or rallying up nuts through inflammatory rhetoric. What happened to reasonable debate? What is wrong with these right-wing retards?

It started slipping away during the Nixon years, got worse during the Carter admin, and each succeeding “opposition” party (to whoever is POTUS) has doubled down on it ever since

131 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:02:34pm

re: #128 cliffster

An “undercurrent of racial discrimination”? That sounds spooky. There’s an undercurrent of crying racism whenever people disagree with Obama. None of it is good.

I think that’s extreme and I don’t see anywhere here doing that. Not to lizards anyway.

132 jamesfirecat  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:02:59pm

re: #119 Cannadian Club Akbar

Sorry, you don’t get piled on when you say, “How can we help”.

You misunderestimate how crazy the right wing is.

Granted he would have gotten piled on if he did nothing, so not doing something because you would get piled on by the right is a pretty flimsy excuse.

133 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:03:24pm

The Ongoing Administration-Wide Response to the Deepwater BP Oil Spill

Day 1

NIGHT OF TUESDAY, APRIL 20

Search and Rescue

The U.S. government response to the BP Oil Spill began immediately after the explosion on the night of April 20 as an emergency search-and-rescue mission. At approximately 10:30 p.m. that night, notification was received that Mobile Offshore Drilling Unit (MODU) Deepwater Horizon had exploded and was on fire. The rig was located 45 miles southeast of Venice, La.

Establish Command Center to Address Potential Environmental Impacts

Concurrently, the administration also quickly establishes a command center on the Gulf Coast to address the potential environmental impact of the event and to coordinate with all state and local governments. Since this point, the administration has continuously anticipated and planned for a worst-case scenario.

NOAA Mobilizes to Provide Trajectory Support

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) mobilizes within three hours of the explosion and started to provide trajectory support and coordinated scientific weather and biological response services. The NOAA weather forecast office in Slidell, La., also provided weather information to the Coast Guard at its request shortly after the explosion to support initial search-and-rescue operations.

The President is Alerted

The President is alerted to the event and he begins actively monitoring the situation. At the time, it was known that 126 people were on the rig when the explosion occurred.

Assets Deployed To Date

Total response vessels: Two Coast Guard cutters

Total response aircraft: Four helicopters and one rescue plane

134 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:03:48pm
135 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:04:04pm

Oh yeah. I forgot. That’s from the White House. I’ll assume that people will think they’re lying.

136 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:04:28pm

re: #124 pharmmajor

Oh sweet Jesus… look, I disagree with the president’s economic policies, but I don’t go around accusing him of being a Socialist or rallying up nuts through inflammatory rhetoric. What happened to reasonable debate? What is wrong with these right-wing retards?

Reasonable debate? Why don’t they debate?

Because like Brewer, they’re deer in the headlights. That got nothin but to punish the poor and elderly.

137 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:05:09pm

re: #134 Cannadian Club Akbar

Fucking Fox News. Oh, wait..

James Carville. Who cares.

Day 1

NIGHT OF TUESDAY, APRIL 20

Search and Rescue

The U.S. government response to the BP Oil Spill began immediately after the explosion on the night of April 20 as an emergency search-and-rescue mission. At approximately 10:30 p.m. that night, notification was received that Mobile Offshore Drilling Unit (MODU) Deepwater Horizon had exploded and was on fire. The rig was located 45 miles southeast of Venice, La.

Establish Command Center to Address Potential Environmental Impacts

Concurrently, the administration also quickly establishes a command center on the Gulf Coast to address the potential environmental impact of the event and to coordinate with all state and local governments. Since this point, the administration has continuously anticipated and planned for a worst-case scenario.

NOAA Mobilizes to Provide Trajectory Support

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) mobilizes within three hours of the explosion and started to provide trajectory support and coordinated scientific weather and biological response services. The NOAA weather forecast office in Slidell, La., also provided weather information to the Coast Guard at its request shortly after the explosion to support initial search-and-rescue operations.

The President is Alerted

The President is alerted to the event and he begins actively monitoring the situation. At the time, it was known that 126 people were on the rig when the explosion occurred.

Assets Deployed To Date

Total response vessels: Two Coast Guard cutters

Total response aircraft: Four helicopters and one rescue plane

138 pharmmajor  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:05:28pm

re: #130 sattv4u2

It started slipping away during the Nixon years, got worse during the Carter admin, and each succeeding “opposition” party (to whoever is POTUS) has doubled down on it ever since

And that’s why I avoid associating with the Democrats and Republicans at all costs. Because when the other side is in power, each turns on the crazy at full force.

139 cliffster  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:05:42pm

re: #131 marjoriemoon

I think that’s extreme and I don’t see anywhere here doing that. Not to lizards anyway.

Do you see lizards being racist?

140 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:05:50pm

Oh, I got it. Obana inherited the DW oil spill.

141 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:06:51pm

re: #128 cliffster

An “undercurrent of racial discrimination”? That sounds spooky. There’s an undercurrent of crying racism whenever people disagree with Obama. None of it is good.

I don’t see that, but I do see a tendency to assume that the crazy opposition is rooted in racism. Remembering the psychotic accusations against Clinton, I am not so sure of that, but there is surely a nutty strain of xenophobia involved. My best example of that would be the people who simply can’t quite accept that he’s just a Protestant. It’s not just the ‘he’s a secret Muslim’ people, it’s the ones who give pseudo-anthropological reasons for why they are sure he’s really not a believing Christian.

142 Jimmah  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:06:51pm
President Obama has engaged in numerous high crimes and misdemeanors. The Democratic majority in Congress is in peril as Americans reject his agenda. Yet more must be done: Mr. Obama should be impeached.

He is slowly - piece by painful piece - erecting a socialist dictatorship. We are not there - yet. But he is putting America on that dangerous path. He is undermining our constitutional system of checks and balances; subverting democratic procedures and the rule of law; presiding over a corrupt, gangster regime; and assaulting the very pillars of traditional capitalism. Like Venezuela’s leftist strongman, Hugo Chavez, Mr. Obama is bent on imposing a revolution from above - one that is polarizing America along racial, political and ideological lines. Mr. Obama is the most divisive president since Richard Nixon. His policies are Balkanizing the country. It’s time for him to go.

Jesus H. This reads like a post by one of the baboons on the stalker blog, corrected for spelling and grammar.

143 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:07:04pm

re: #136 marjoriemoon

Reasonable debate? Why don’t they debate?

Because like Brewer, they’re deer in the headlights. That got nothin but to punish the poor and elderly.

and kick puppies ,,,don’t forget the kicking of the puppies!

{sigh}

144 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:07:05pm

We’re now using the ignorance of ideologues and the general public as facts and as a basis for judgment. This is the same public, many of whom thought “Iraq was an island in South Pacific” in 2003.

145 researchok  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:07:14pm

The entire MSM has gone downhill.

FOX News may be at the head the pack but there is good reason why journalism as a whole is held in such low regard by virtually everyone.

146 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:07:52pm

re: #139 cliffster

Do you see lizards being racist?

There certainly have been, but they’re gone.

Of the current crop, I can’t tell you. They wouldn’t last if they made that overtly public.

147 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:07:54pm

re: #140 Cannadian Club Akbar

Oh, I got it. Obana inherited the DW oil spill.

No one is saying that. You’re moving the goal posts.

148 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:08:42pm

re: #147 Gus 802

No one is saying that. You’re moving the goal posts.

I forgot the sarc tag. My bad.

149 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:09:27pm

re: #143 sattv4u2

and kick puppies ,,,don’t forget the kicking of the puppies!

{sigh}

1. Raise the retirement age to 70.

2. Privatize Medicare and social security.

3. Cut education and public funding.

Who benefits from these things? The young, healthy and wealthy?

150 sagehen  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:09:29pm

re: #139 cliffster

Do you see lizards being racist?

How do you think the flouncer and banned turned into flouncers and banned?

We’ve seen plenty of it.

151 researchok  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:10:39pm

re: #141 SanFranciscoZionist

I don’t see that, but I do see a tendency to assume that the crazy opposition is rooted in racism. Remembering the psychotic accusations against Clinton, I am not so sure of that, but there is surely a nutty strain of xenophobia involved. My best example of that would be the people who simply can’t quite accept that he’s just a Protestant. It’s not just the ‘he’s a secret Muslim’ people, it’s the ones who give pseudo-anthropological reasons for why they are sure he’s really not a believing Christian.

The race card is now politics as usual. Recall ‘Bush the racist’ when it came to Katrina.

152 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:10:43pm

re: #150 sagehen

How do you think the flouncer and banned turned into flouncers and banned?

We’ve seen plenty of it.

I hate the Polish.
//

153 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:11:27pm

re: #151 researchok

The race card is now politics as usual. Recall ‘Bush the racist’ when it came to Katrina.

Bush hates black people.

154 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:11:49pm

60 percent of Americans think that Obama responded poorly to the BP oil spill. 60 percent of Americans were also watching American Idol that night and think that the Gulf of Mexico is a body of water in Mexico.

/

155 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:12:12pm

re: #149 marjoriemoon

1. Raise the retirement age to 70.

2. Privatize Medicare and social security.

3. Cut education and public funding.

Who benefits from these things? The young, healthy and wealthy?

They have no ideas how to move us to energy dependency, how to strengthen the economy, how to create more jobs. And if they did decide to agree with anything Obama did, at this point, they’d be thrown to the 9th level of Dante’s hell.

156 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:12:41pm

re: #154 Gus 802

60 percent of Americans think that Obama responded poorly to the BP oil spill. 60 percent of Americans were also watching American Idol that night and think that the Gulf of Mexico is a body of water in Mexico.

/

Either that or they think that Gulf of Mexico is a chain of Gulf gas stations in Mexico.

//

157 Jeff In Ohio  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:13:12pm

re: #128 cliffster

An “undercurrent of racial discrimination”? That sounds spooky. There’s an undercurrent of crying racism whenever people disagree with Obama. None of it is good.

Of course that’s a fantasy. I’ve never heard anyone call Frum or Brooks a racist.

158 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:13:50pm

re: #153 Cannadian Club Akbar

Bush hates black people.

I hoped people might feel better about that once Obama called Kanye West a jackass.

159 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:14:36pm

re: #154 Gus 802

60 percent of Americans think that Obama responded poorly to the BP oil spill. 60 percent of Americans were also watching American Idol that night and think that the Gulf of Mexico is a body of water in Mexico.

/

It’s funny because it’s true!
/

160 cliffster  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:14:42pm

re: #141 SanFranciscoZionist

I don’t see that, but I do see a tendency to assume that the crazy opposition is rooted in racism. Remembering the psychotic accusations against Clinton, I am not so sure of that, but there is surely a nutty strain of xenophobia involved. My best example of that would be the people who simply can’t quite accept that he’s just a Protestant. It’s not just the ‘he’s a secret Muslim’ people, it’s the ones who give pseudo-anthropological reasons for why they are sure he’s really not a believing Christian.

I’m glad you can see that. It’s true.

161 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:15:01pm

re: #159 Varek Raith

It’s funny because it’s true!
/

My numbers are probably high. ;)

162 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:15:49pm

re: #154 Gus 802

60 percent of Americans think that Obama responded poorly to the BP oil spill. 60 percent of Americans were also watching American Idol that night and think that the Gulf of Mexico is a body of water in Mexico.

/

It is part of Mexico.

163 pharmmajor  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:16:15pm

re: #155 marjoriemoon

They have no ideas how to move us to energy independency, how to strengthen the economy, how to create more jobs.

The libertarians know how to do all that and more.

164 Gus  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:16:35pm

re: #162 Cannadian Club Akbar

It is part of Mexico.

Of course. But it’s not “a body of water in Mexico.”

165 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:17:26pm

re: #163 pharmmajor

The libertarians know how to do all that and more.

In what way? or are you being sarcastic.

166 researchok  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:17:48pm

re: #155 marjoriemoon

They have no ideas how to move us to energy dependency, how to strengthen the economy, how to create more jobs. And if they did decide to agree with anything Obama did, at this point, they’d be thrown to the 9th level of Dante’s hell.

They know what to do. They are just doing what every other administration before them has done.

They are just kicking the ball further down the road so the next guys will have to deal with it. They just don’t want to have to Americans the truth- that there is a cost to prosperity- and just a cost, but there are and moral obligations as well.

We are a generation that refuses to leave a better world for our kids than the one we have, in no small measure because successive governments set that very example.

167 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:18:49pm

re: #164 Gus 802

Of course. But it’s not “a body of water in Mexico.”

Got your point. My bad.

168 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:19:17pm

re: #167 Cannadian Club Akbar

Got your point. My bad.

You needs somes coffees.
Stat!

169 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:20:10pm

re: #160 cliffster

I’m glad you can see that. It’s true.

I do see it, and I disagree with it, to a great extent. I think there is a tendency to explain the really crazy accusations with ‘a black Democrat got into office’, when honestly, I think any Democrat would have caught this kind of flack from the rising crazyright. There’s a racial component, but really, I think the Democratic component is key, and the xenophobia about his foreign father is perhaps more important than simple blackness—I don’t think the black son of Mr. and Mrs. Barry Obermayer of Kansas would be getting this degree of fantasy and hysteria focused on his religion and racial beliefs.

OTOH, I DON’T see people accusing people of racism when they bring rational disagreements with Obama’s policies. Not here, and not in general. The mistake I see is assuming that a white man in the same position would not be accused of similar and insane things by the RWR. I think that Clinton’s experience proves otherwise.

170 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:20:12pm

re: #149 marjoriemoon

1. Raise the retirement age to 70.

2. Privatize Medicare and social security.

3. Cut education and public funding.

Who benefits from these things? The young, healthy and wealthy?

You’re right

Lets spend MORE money that we don;’t have so not only will my grandkids be saddled with the debt, but THEIR grandkids will be able to turn their paychecks directly over to the Chinese gov’t!

Clintons TANF act was very good. It reduced the welfare rolls and increased employment through a number of PRIVATE industry perks

Obamas Economic Stimulus Act of 2009 will reverse the welfare-to-work provisions that Bill Clinton signed in the 1990s and again base federal grants to states on the number of people signed up for welfare rather than at a flat rate.

YIPPEEE

171 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:20:22pm

re: #168 Varek Raith

You needs somes coffees.
Stat!

I haven’t had coffee in 2 weeks.

172 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:20:47pm

re: #171 Cannadian Club Akbar

I haven’t had coffee in 2 weeks.

There’s you problem!!!
/

173 cliffster  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:21:28pm

re: #157 Jeff In Ohio

Of course that’s a fantasy. I’ve never heard anyone call Frum or Brooks a racist.

You’re right, you caught me. No one ever, ever inappropriately chalks up opposition to Obama to racism. Fantasy, as you say. I need to lay off the hallucinogens.

174 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:21:38pm

re: #172 Varek Raith

There’s your problem!!!
/


Bugger all.
I need coffee.

175 tradewind  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:22:05pm

re: #134 Cannadian Club Akbar
Lol@ Serpenthead. Even a stopped clock……

176 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:22:11pm

re: #174 Varek Raith

Bugger all.
I need coffee.

While you’re up, could you bring me one?

Dark, no sugar please

177 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:23:54pm

re: #175 tradewind

I love you. Down Ding at will.

178 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:24:27pm

re: #175 tradewind

re: #177 Cannadian Club Akbar

I love you. Down Ding at will.

get a room, you two!

179 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:26:11pm

re: #166 researchok

They know what to do. They are just doing what every other administration before them has done.

They are just kicking the ball further down the road so the next guys will have to deal with it. They just don’t want to have to Americans the truth- that there is a cost to prosperity- and just a cost, but there are and moral obligations as well.

We are a generation that refuses to leave a better world for our kids than the one we have, in no small measure because successive governments set that very example.

Except that I don’t see the Democrats riling up their base by plying them with irrational fears. The Republicans use morality and nationalism as a way of dividing, as opposed to really working on issues that would benefit the majority of citizens.

The new blood of Republicans don’t care. They just want their party back and the best way to do that is to scare the hell out of the populace.

180 tradewind  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:27:21pm

re: #154 Gus 802
Probably 100% of the citizens of Vera Cruz, Mexico are laboring under that falsehood as well…///

181 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:28:05pm

re: #179 marjoriemoon

Except that I don’t see the Democrats riling up their base by plying them with irrational fears. The Republicans use morality and nationalism as a way of dividing, as opposed to really working on issues that would benefit the majority of citizens.

The new blood of Republicans don’t care. They just want their party back and the best way to do that is to scare the hell out of the populace.

Correct. Which is a political move.

182 Jeff In Ohio  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:28:10pm

re: #173 cliffster

You’re right, you caught me. No one ever, ever inappropriately chalks up opposition to Obama to racism. Fantasy, as you say. I need to lay off the hallucinogens.

OK. Your right. You said one thing and meant another. It was obvious. Don’t know how I missed it.

183 tradewind  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:28:56pm

re: #177 Cannadian Club Akbar
Nevah.
He must have redeeming qualities. Mary Matalin married him, and his little girls are cute.

184 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:29:34pm

re: #170 sattv4u2

You’re right

Lets spend MORE money that we don;’t have so not only will my grandkids be saddled with the debt, but THEIR grandkids will be able to turn their paychecks directly over to the Chinese gov’t!

Clintons TANF act was very good. It reduced the welfare rolls and increased employment through a number of PRIVATE industry perks

Obamas Economic Stimulus Act of 2009 will reverse the welfare-to-work provisions that Bill Clinton signed in the 1990s and again base federal grants to states on the number of people signed up for welfare rather than at a flat rate.

YIPPEEE

I don’t know about that last bit, but coming from you, no offense Dear Satt, I’d have to look further into that.

Let me ask you, what happened to the customer service industry in this country? Phone customer service? How many 1000s, millions (?) of people lost their jobs to foreign countries that will never come back here?

185 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:29:43pm

re: #179 marjoriemoon

Except that I don’t see the Democrats riling up their base by plying them with irrational fears

(esp. 37 seconds in)

186 tradewind  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:30:02pm

re: #178 sattv4u2
Contributing to delinquency of a lizard…. it’s a misdemeanor.

187 cliffster  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:30:40pm

So I’ve got a buddy coming over this afternoon - in from out of town. Problem? He swears like sailor. Met him for lunch yesterday with my 4-year-old girl, and he tried, but he just can’t help it. This afternoon, he’s coming over and both my kids will be around him. I’m doing the cooking.. his health might be in serious danger if he doesn’t cool it.

188 tradewind  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:31:41pm

re: #179 marjoriemoon

Except that I don’t see the Democrats riling up their base by plying them with irrational fears.


Well, no, unless you think they may worry about Granny eating dog food, social security checks vanishing in the mail, and video cameras being installed in every bedroom.
Nothing irrational about those talking points..

189 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:31:54pm

re: #187 cliffster

So I’ve got a buddy coming over this afternoon - in from out of town. Problem? He swears like sailor. Met him for lunch yesterday with my 4-year-old girl, and he tried, but he just can’t help it. This afternoon, he’s coming over and both my kids will be around him. I’m doing the cooking.. his health might be in serious danger if he doesn’t cool it.

Make him buy a case a beer every time he lets one fly.
That ought to learn him!

190 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:33:13pm

re: #185 sattv4u2


Except that I don’t see the Democrats riling up their base by plying them with irrational fears


[Video](esp. 37 seconds in)

I don’t know what the hell that was supposed to be? Gore played on our fears? About what, global warming? Yea, nothing to be afraid about there.

191 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:33:30pm

re: #187 cliffster

Tell him to shut the fuck up. Or use the easy button.

192 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:33:36pm

re: #94 Surabaya Stew

The broad brush here is justified. Walter, I know you don’t hate Obama because he’s black, but the majority all the fire-breathing right-wingers that are a regular topic of discussion on LGF certainly do. (I’m not taking about rational R’s or unhappy true conservatives, that kind of dissatisfaction with Obama’s policies and decisions is fine.) What we’re dealing with is the extreme anger with the TP’ers and others that goes beyond CDS or BDS. The kind of anger that is hurting us now and will grow into greater violence across the land, with dead doctors and muslims that will haunt us forever after.

If if takes a broad brush to strike these fools down, I’m all for it.

Bullshit.

193 tradewind  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:33:48pm

re: #170 sattv4u2

…base federal grants to states on the number of people signed up for welfare rather than at a flat rate.


What could go wrong??//

194 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:33:57pm

re: #184 marjoriemoon

I don’t know about that last bit, but coming from you, no offense Dear Satt, I’d have to look further into that.

Let me ask you, what happened to the customer service industry in this country? Phone customer service? How many 1000s, millions (?) of people lost their jobs to foreign countries that will never come back here?

A),, it’s not “their” job
A job belongs to the company that creates it. In my case, I just happen to have a skill set at a mutually agreeable compensation package that enables me to have it!
B),, you can also blame it IN PART (repeat ,, IN PART) to union demands of being overcompensated for said job (salary, benefits AND retirement package). Mind you, I don’t blame just the union in this. The “company” signed the contract with the union, so they are just as complicit

195 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:34:08pm

re: #188 tradewind

Well, no, unless you think they may worry about Granny eating dog food, social security checks vanishing in the mail, and video cameras being installed in every bedroom.
Nothing irrational about those talking points..

You forgot about killing granny! Get with the program, will ya!

196 tradewind  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:34:26pm

re: #187 cliffster
Take the path of least resistance, and make him pay for the babysitter.//

197 cliffster  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:34:28pm

re: #189 Varek Raith

Make him buy a case a beer every time he lets one fly.
That ought to learn him!

you know, I really like that one.

198 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:34:53pm

re: #190 marjoriemoon

I don’t know what the hell that was supposed to be? Gore played on our fears? About what, global warming? Yea, nothing to be afraid about there.

he wasn’t talking about Global Warming in that screed

but helluva try!

199 tradewind  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:35:39pm

re: #195 marjoriemoon
The dog food diet would probably accomplish that, maybe not as quickly as some would like.//
(notenoughsarctags)

200 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:36:18pm

Out for a bit. Out for a walk later.

201 tradewind  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:36:39pm

re: #194 sattv4u2
That’s one of the best things about a mac.
Call ‘em up, get actual American help. I love it.

202 cliffster  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:37:36pm

I’m out. Yall have a good holiday sunday afternoon.

203 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:38:09pm

re: #194 sattv4u2

A),, it’s not “their” job
A job belongs to the company that creates it. In my case, I just happen to have a skill set at a mutually agreeable compensation package that enables me to have it!
B),, you can also blame it IN PART (repeat ,, IN PART) to union demands of being overcompensated for said job (salary, benefits AND retirement package). Mind you, I don’t blame just the union in this. The “company” signed the contract with the union, so they are just as complicit

Um… controlled under President Bush. Bush was very excited about moving jobs overseas. Quite frankly, I’m not entirely against to a smaller extent, but practically the customer service industry when it comes to phone service in large corporations is gone in this country. You want to justify that by saying it wasn’t really their job to begin with, be my guest.

204 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:38:35pm

re: #202 cliffster

I’m out. Yall have a good holiday sunday afternoon.

easy for you to say’

am in the middle of a 12 hour work day today, followed by another one tomorrow!

DRINK!!

//

205 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:38:46pm

re: #198 sattv4u2

he wasn’t talking about Global Warming in that screed

but helluva try!

Well I couldn’t hear it with blubber mouth.. .Rush was it? Screaming over it.

Great example.

206 What, me worry?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:40:23pm

Ok, i gotta jet. Day’s a wastin.

I’ll return to taunt you all a second time :)

207 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:41:51pm

DEATH PANELS!!
9/11 VICTORY MOSQUE!!
OBAMA’S A SOCIALIST DICTATOR!!
ACORN STOLE THE ELECTION!!

208 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 12:43:13pm

re: #203 marjoriemoon

Um… controlled under President Bush. Bush was very excited about moving jobs overseas. Quite frankly, I’m not entirely against to a smaller extent, but practically the customer service industry when it comes to phone service in large corporations is gone in this country. You want to justify that by saying it wasn’t really their job to begin with, be my guest.

BLAME BUSH (hows that knee jerk!?!?)

And yes, I will “justify it” by stating (factually) that the job belongs to the company that created it

(and btw ,, oustsourcing started big time in the 80’s ,,, I’m not positive, but I’m pretty sure Bush wasn’t POTUS then)
[Link: www.ask.com…]

209 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 1:09:51pm

re: #148 Cannadian Club Akbar

I forgot the sarc tag. My bad.

I read it as sarcastic; didn’t down ding ya.

210 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 1:21:50pm

re: #71 Gus 802

Some strange people out there. I used to think it was younger folks doing that but I’ve come to learn that it can be anyone of any age. Some of the crazed stalkers are in their 60s.

I hang around a forum where the resident troll is in his late 70s. I want to blame his behaviour on senile dementia but he has just enough lucid to make me think he’s always been that way.

211 webevintage  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 1:22:30pm

Someone got paid to write stupid like that.
Amazing.
and the comments after it are made of crazy fun….

Impeach the President because he refuses to secure our borders.

Well, except immigration has gone down in the last 2 years and Obama has upped the amount of money spent and added guards…but hey, he’s doing nothing.
Morons.

212 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 1:30:31pm

re: #211 webevintage

Someone got paid to write stupid like that.
Amazing.
and the comments after it are made of crazy fun…

Impeach the President because he refuses to secure our borders.

Well, except immigration has gone down in the last 2 years and Obama has upped the amount of money spent and added guards…but hey, he’s doing nothing.
Morons.

This is the thing. It’s not that Obama can do no wrong, or that everything is Bush’s fault—it’s that things that happened for eight years under Clinton and THEN eight years under Bush (at a minimum) are NOW so intolerable that we should impeach Obama immediately over them, even if he’s making progress toward fixing them. And that these are not seen as issues the U.S. needs to fix, but as special failings of Obama’s.

He REFUSES to secure our borders. He could do it so easily! Every president before him did it! But he REFUSES!!

He also REFUSES to create world peace!

He REFUSES to walk on water!

213 elbruce  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 1:38:32pm

re: #211 webevintage

Impeach the President because he refuses to secure our borders.

Well, except immigration has gone down in the last 2 years and Obama has upped the amount of money spent and added guards…but hey, he’s doing nothing.
Morons.

The usual tactic at work there: pretend the facts are other than they are and then be outraged at what you just made up. If it were the case that the U.S. had no enforcement of its immigration laws, I’d agree that it was dereliction of duty. Just as if it were the case that somebody was building a mosque directly on the WTC site I’d agree that was a bad idea.

214 Mentis Fugit  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 1:42:02pm

re: #125 researchok

Obama eats ham??

Are you sure?

//

MINO!

215 Mentis Fugit  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 1:45:12pm

re: #212 SanFranciscoZionist

He REFUSES to walk on water!


If he did, the Washington Times headline would be OBAMA CAN’T SWIM

Old joke… I know… sorry…

216 sagehen  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 1:52:14pm

re: #212 SanFranciscoZionist

He REFUSES to walk on water!


“If he walked on water, they’d complain he can’t swim.”

217 lostlakehiker  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 2:44:59pm

re: #149 marjoriemoon

1. Raise the retirement age to 70.

2. Privatize Medicare and social security.

3. Cut education and public funding.

Who benefits from these things? The young, healthy and wealthy?

It’s not just Republicans who are mulling over measures to put social security on some sort of sustainable financial basis. The choices are to raise taxes on the already hard-pressed working class [hurts the young], cut benefits [hurts the old], raise the age at which one qualifies for full benefits [hurts the middle-aged], run social security at a loss and cover it out of federal income tax revenue [conflicts with every other use the government has for that same revenue], or run at a loss and debase the dollar through inflation [amounts to a cut in benefits through the back door, and hurts everybody who needs the dollar to serve as a store of value.]

There really aren’t any win-win solutions.

Talk about privatizing social security is Ron Paul stuff. This talk assumes, for purposes of debate, that everybody is financially rather sophisticated. Nothing could be further from the truth, but debate is inhibited by the difficulty in today’s PC world of insisting openly that some people are better able to manage their money than others and that one purpose of social security is to make sure that the fool and his money are not fully separated. The “privatize” idea is ridiculous because of this fact, but nobody dares say exactly why it’s ridiculous. Everybody knows better, though.

Privatizing medicare is not quite so ridiculous. The trouble with the current system is that the fee structure doesn’t cover medical costs. Medicare, like social security, is on a collision course with reality. The “reform” recently enacted only makes the problem worse, but even before that, it was headed for failure.

Education is where the Republicans have the best case. There’s a high school in LA going up now at a construction cost of about six hundred million dollars.

If it’s going to serve 6000 kids, and the real number will almost surely be considerably smaller, that means the building alone will have cost $100 000 per student.

This isn’t money going to instruction. It isn’t money going to necessary construction. It’s money going to friends of friends of friends, money being blown in the name of education, and money that California doesn’t have. Some schmuck from central Missouri, whose son goes to a school that cost $5000 per student to build, is going to have to pick up the tab.

Bazillions for education, any cut is a cut to the bone.

218 elbruce  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 3:12:40pm

re: #217 lostlakehiker

It’s not just Republicans who are mulling over measures to put social security on some sort of sustainable financial basis.

Much like the mosque being built directly on the WTC site or the federal government refusing to enforce immigration laws, the notion that Social Security is unsustainably shaky is a problem that’s been manufactured out of lies:

[Link: www.newdeal20.org…]

To ensure that all benefits will always be paid in full and on time, Social Security’s Board of Trustees annually reports to Congress on how the program is projected to do over the next three-quarters of a century. Obviously, projections extending so far out in the future will sometimes show deficits or, for that matter, unintended surpluses. The simple, mundane truth is that the actuaries refined some of their assumptions and methodologies in the 1990s and began, as a consequence, forecasting a manageable deficit over the 75-year valuation period. These constantly-evolving long-run projections, part of the program’s prudent, conservative management, demonstrate that Social Security is closely monitored, a fact which could and should reassure the American people about Social Security’s reliability. Instead, the fact of a projected manageable shortfall, still decades away, has been used in exactly the opposite way, to convince the American people, against all evidence, that Social Security will not be there in the future.

219 Surabaya Stew  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 4:38:39pm

re: #192 Walter L. Newton

Bullshit.

I respect your disagreement with my opinion. However, you’re making a lonely argument. Too many right-wingers have a race problem, and its pretty clear that its become a major force against Obama overall.

220 Wozza Matter?  Sun, Sep 5, 2010 5:19:55pm

re: #128 cliffster

There’s an undercurrent of crying racism whenever people disagree with Obama.

bull shit.

When people HATE on the man - yeah, he’s more loathed than Bush Jnr, and the crazy over flowing around his presence in the whitehouse is worse than what Clinton got - and it’s being mainstreamed far more than the Vince Foster garbage ever was.

221 [deleted]  Mon, Sep 6, 2010 10:46:01am
222 iceweasel  Mon, Sep 6, 2010 10:48:21am

re: #221 big-dog

Sigh. Another dead-thread jammed with broken wingnuts on a last chance power drive. /

223 [deleted]  Mon, Sep 6, 2010 10:58:33am
224 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 6, 2010 11:21:18am

Bye now! I’m sure you’ll be much happier at some other site.


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