San Antonio Mosque Vandalized

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Here’s another anti-Muslim hate crime that Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer and the Bigot Brigade can claim they have nothing to do with — this time on the hallowed ground of San Antonio, Texas: San Antonio mosque vandalized amid national tensions over NYC mosque.

A San Antonio mosque has been hit several times in the past week by vandals.

Tensions are already running high with the mosque controversy in New York City. Now, the Islamic Center of San Antonio has become a target.

Vandals spray-painted symbols and letters on the facade of the new building.

Members of the Islamic center near the Medical Center in northwest San Antonio said they came out from prayers Sunday to find the cars in the parking lot vandalized with graffiti and anti-Islamic messages.

Police are investigating the incidents.

UPDATE at 9/6/10 7:01:28 pm:

A few hours later, we have an update: San Antonio mosque rules out hate crime as root of graffiti incident.

SAN ANTONIO — As the anniversary of Sept. 11 approaches, tensions are running high, including here in San Antonio, where a mosque has been targeted several times over the weekend by vandals.

Nadia Ramdass of KENS 5 spoke with the Council on American-Islamic Relations in Washington, D.C., which is not treating the incident as a hate crime due to the non-offensive nature of the graffiti.

They are working with local police and FBI, however, to ensure they’re correct.

Vandals spray painted symbols and letters inside and outside of the mosque, located near the Medical Center in northwest San Antonio on Sunday.

Members of the Islamic Center were already targeted by vandals on Saturday, too. They came out from prayers to find the cars in the parking lot sprayed with graffiti.

Members of the mosque believe the incidents could be gang related.

So far, local law enforcement has no leads.

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208 comments

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:33:12pm

No better than people who would burn a cross in someone's front yard.

jamesfirecat Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:33:53pm

This also won't end well.... except that it might if this behavior forces America as a whole to confront what might be a Anti-Islamic undercurrent growing within our culture....

Alecto Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:36:25pm

This makes me so angry. The fact we don't have a loud outcry against this in our country just proves we aren't a Christian nation.

Crimsonfisted Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:38:08pm

Vandals spray-painted symbols and letters on the facade of the new building.

What symbols? What letters? Letters and symbols? Why don't they say what those were?

Lidane Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:41:01pm

I'd go into full-on rant mode about this, but I don't have time. Grad school calls, since I have to go and finish some work for tomorrow.

I'm just wondering what part of the Sacred Monument of Ground Zero™ is in San Antonio, and why a mosque there is harming anyone. I don't get it at all.

Wozza Matter? Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:43:30pm

Not.Good.

ClaudeMonet Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:44:33pm

re: #4 Crimsonfisted

What symbols? What letters? Letters and symbols? Why don't they say what those were?

Why should anyone release this information? To encourage copycat crimes? To not be able to link similar crimes together, should more vandalism occur?

Our local big Islamic Center is located right by I-75 north of town, and I drive by it about once a week at various hours. I've noticed that there is always at least one car in the parking lot, a smart move IMO. Vandals and such are curiously less active when they think there's no one around to spot them or catch them. Not that cars in the lot stopped the SA vandals.

Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:46:38pm

Wow. Obama's really laying into the Republicans in a speech in Milwaukee. Live on CNN.

ClaudeMonet Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:47:08pm

re: #5 Lidane

I'd go into full-on rant mode about this, but I don't have time. Grad school calls, since I have to go and finish some work for tomorrow.

I'm just wondering what part of the Sacred Monument of Ground Zero™ is in San Antonio, and why a mosque there is harming anyone. I don't get it at all.

Why, it's in the same town as the Sacred Monument of the Alamo! That's proof that San Antonio should be reserved for Christians only, I say!

(Never mind that the Mexicans who stormed the Alamo were also Christians, if you consider Catholics to be Christian)

watching you tiny alien kittens are Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:48:00pm

Well you know doing it to a synagogue is seen as unacceptable (so far, at least) but doing it to a Mosque just proves how much of a patriot you are...

///Dickheads.

Lidane Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:48:24pm

re: #8 Charles

Wow. Obama's really laying into the Republicans in a speech in Milwaukee. Live on CNN.

And everyone over at #tcot is already whining about it, too.

For all their tough talk, the modern right wing are awfully thin-skinned.

Wozza Matter? Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:49:05pm

re: #5 Lidane

I'd go into full-on rant mode about this, but I don't have time. Grad school calls, since I have to go and finish some work for tomorrow.

I'm just wondering what part of the Sacred Monument of Ground Zero™ is in San Antonio, and why a mosque there is harming anyone. I don't get it at all.

remember the alamo.......

Crimsonfisted Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:50:56pm

re: #7 ClaudeMonet

I would think it would help identify the group. Is this the same group as Charles reported the other day? Is it the Nazi symbol? A cross? Gang symbols? What? Something unique that other people can be looking out for in other places like our own neighborhoods?

Letters? I mean, random letters that mean nothing or actual words? It seems odd to state "symbols and letters" without some kind of a clarification.

lostlakehiker Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:52:46pm

Vandals spray-painted symbols and letters on the facade of the new building.

That's just trashy. People, people, mind your manners.

Lidane Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:52:49pm

re: #12 wozzablog

remember the alamo...

Damn near everyone died at The Alamo. It's value is more symbolic than anything, since it enabled the Texians to finally defeat Mexico at the Battle of San Jacinto.

Of course, the same idiots who vandalized this mosque probably think the Alamo was a great military victory or something. =P

elizajane Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:53:24pm

re: #13 Crimsonfisted

I would think it would help identify the group. Is this the same group as Charles reported the other day? Is it the Nazi symbol? A cross? Gang symbols? What? Something unique that other people can be looking out for in other places like our own neighborhoods?

Letters? I mean, random letters that mean nothing or actual words? It seems odd to state "symbols and letters" without some kind of a clarification.

Two possibilities: 1) the inscriptions were not printable in a newspaper that might be seen by small children, or 2) the perpetrators were illiterate and their message could not be deciphered.

Wozza Matter? Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:54:13pm

re: #15 Lidane

Damn near everyone died at The Alamo. It's value is more symbolic than anything, since it enabled the Texians to finally defeat Mexico at the Battle of San Jacinto.

Of course, the same idiots who vandalized this mosque probably think the Alamo was a great military victory or something. =P

i was there last year :p

Crimsonfisted Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:54:49pm

re: #16 elizajane

Two possibilities: 1) the inscriptions were not printable in a newspaper that might be seen by small children, or 2) the perpetrators were illiterate and their message could not be deciphered.

Must be #2

spikester Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:54:55pm

re: #16 elizajane

Two possibilities: 1) the inscriptions were not printable in a newspaper that might be seen by small children, or 2) the perpetrators were illiterate and their message could not be deciphered.

my $$$$'s on 2

Lidane Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:55:00pm

re: #15 Lidane

UGH. Total contraction fail. PIMF.

Reginald Perrin Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:55:07pm

This should teach those [bigoted word]s not to build where they are not wanted.

///

ClaudeMonet Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:55:31pm

re: #11 Lidane

And everyone over at #tcot is already whining about it, too.

For all their tough talk, the modern right wing are awfully thin-skinned.

My political fantasy--A talks trash about B. B says, "Here's my response--'F**k you, a**hole.'" The End. But no, both sides have to keep talking, bitching, moaning, charging, whining...

If the President is taking it to the Republicans, in this case good for him. A little backbone goes a long way if (a) you're a Democrat, a member of the party not exactly known for their toughness, and (b) the opposition is as awful as the Repubs have been lately.

And I'm not even a fan of President Obama.

ClaudeMonet Mon, Sep 6, 2010 12:58:31pm

re: #16 elizajane

Two possibilities: 1) the inscriptions were not printable in a newspaper that might be seen by small children, or 2) the perpetrators were illiterate and their message could not be deciphered.

Third possibility--The inscriptions contained some distinctive phrasing or spelling that could link it to other incidents.

My money's on a combination of all three.

"Don't write naughty words on walls if you can't spell"--Tom Lehrer, Be Prepared

Lidane Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:00:27pm

re: #22 ClaudeMonet

If the President is taking it to the Republicans, in this case good for him. A little backbone goes a long way if (a) you're a Democrat, a member of the party not exactly known for their toughness, and (b) the opposition is as awful as the Repubs have been lately.

Seriously. He's actually been fairly restrained, IMO, given how much shit the GOP flings at him on a daily basis. I'm glad to see him laying into them. If it annoys the Republicans, so much the better. They can deal with it.

And I'm not even a fan of President Obama.

You don't have to be a fan of his to appreciate someone pushing back against the seemingly endless tide of bullshit being sent his way.

ClaudeMonet Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:05:41pm

re: #24 Lidane

Seriously. He's actually been fairly restrained, IMO, given how much shit the GOP flings at him on a daily basis. I'm glad to see him laying into them. If it annoys the Republicans, so much the better. They can deal with it.

You don't have to be a fan of his to appreciate someone pushing back against the seemingly endless tide of bullshit being sent his way.

I've always been a fan of Harry Truman. Show the opposition that you have no fear and can throw any of their sh** back at them. That may be why I was a big Jimmy Connors fan, back when I watched tennis.

BTW, what are you studying in grad school? Something useful, or just fun?

Kronocide Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:06:34pm

re: #22 ClaudeMonet

And I'm not even a fan of President Obama.

Neither am I. He just needs to not screw up too bad and he'll come out looking peachy. The GOP is doing everything they can to make him look good by looking so bad themselves.

He's stubbed his toe a few moments, but I have to say he's not doing to bad, no serious screw ups.

Lidane Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:08:03pm

re: #25 ClaudeMonet

BTW, what are you studying in grad school? Something useful, or just fun?

Both. It's an MBA so it's useful, but it's also something I think is fun. :)

ClaudeMonet Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:12:07pm

re: #27 Lidane

Both. It's an MBA so it's useful, but it's also something I think is fun. :)

I trust you won't wind up like most of the MBAs I knew in my last corporate job. Pompous, self-impressed, jargon-spouting douchebags, overpaid to be "pigeon execs" who make a lot of noise, crap all over the place, and fly away.

Digital media sounds interesting, but I admit I have no idea what's involved.

RadicalModerate Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:12:23pm

Here's a link that has the video of the report.

[Link: www.kens5.com...]

On the surface, some of the graffiti appears to be gang "tagging", by spraypainting of initials on the building. However, tagging typically doesn't include spraypainting on automobiles - they only hit buildings and other stationary objects.
Also, there were many places painted with anti-Muslim slurs, and other forms of vandalism, which would not coincide with gang "tagging" activity.

spikester Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:13:21pm

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No better than people who would burn a cross in someone's front yard.

the people who will do something like this will do the same thing to a synagogue, a “you don’t believe in the same Jesus I believe in church” or kick over grave stones; and are someone’s piss poor neighbors

Ojoe Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:13:44pm

IMHO these are incidents in a religious war of centuries that has the momentum of a juggernaut and is far far from over.

Good luck stopping it with noble intentions of tolerance and forbearance.

I suppose we should try anyway.

osprey34229 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:14:40pm

These could be self inflicted wounds. These fellows are
1/2 millennium behind in civilization 1/2 ahead in PR!
They play us like chumps! We never learn.

osprey34229 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:16:04pm

re: #31 Ojoe

IMHO these are incidents in a religious war of centuries that has the momentum of a juggernaut and is far far from over.

Good luck stopping it with noble intentions of tolerance and forbearance.

I suppose we should try anyway.

Dead on!!

SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:16:40pm

re: #31 Ojoe

IMHO these are incidents in a religious war of centuries that has the momentum of a juggernaut and is far far from over.

Good luck stopping it with noble intentions of tolerance and forbearance.

I suppose we should try anyway.

What religious war, exactly is that?

I don't mean to be tetchy, but I often hear people dismiss the Israeli/Palestinian conflict as something that's been going on for thousands of years, which is bullshit. What actual conflict is being played out here?

Lidane Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:16:45pm

re: #28 ClaudeMonet

I trust you won't wind up like most of the MBAs I knew in my last corporate job. Pompous, self-impressed, jargon-spouting douchebags, overpaid to be "pigeon execs" who make a lot of noise, crap all over the place, and fly away.

Nah, that's not me. I'd have to take myself seriously first, and that has yet to happen. XD

The way I see it, it's a degree that will help me get a better job, and in industries that I've either worked in before, or have an interest in.

Digital media sounds interesting, but I admit I have no idea what's involved.

It's basically a degree that incorporates teh internets and technology into business. Imagine the IT folks or the creative types on one side and the pencil pushers from Accounts Receivable and middle management on the other. I'll be able to talk to both of them and help them get things done.

sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:17:03pm

re: #29 RadicalModerate

Here's a link that has the video of the report.

[Link: www.kens5.com...]

On the surface, some of the graffiti appears to be gang "tagging", by spraypainting of initials on the building. However, tagging typically doesn't include spraypainting on automobiles - they only hit buildings and other stationary objects.
Also, there were many places painted with anti-Muslim slurs, and other forms of vandalism, which would not coincide with gang "tagging" activity.

Good find

I can't come up with anything that "AC" and/or "FC" would be for a muslim/ Islamic slur

Looked/ sounded more like a gang sign or someones initials

SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:17:22pm

re: #32 osprey34229

These could be self inflicted wounds. These fellows are
1/2 millennium behind in civilization 1/2 ahead in PR!
They play us like chumps! We never learn.

Do you have a copy of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Jihad downloaded to your computer, by any chance?

wrenchwench Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:17:35pm

re: #32 osprey34229

You are a chump. Play somewhere else, please.

elbruce Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:19:22pm

re: #30 spikester

the people who will do something like this will do the same thing to a synagogue, a “you don’t believe in the same Jesus I believe in church” or kick over grave stones; and are someone’s piss poor neighbors

When I lived in Spokane in the 90's, the Aryan Nations were still active just over the WA/ID border, having parades and everything. The local synagogue had to hire an off-duty police officer to stand outside the place on Saturdays to make sure nothing happened.

Kronocide Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:19:50pm

MBA Jargon Watch

Careful, if I see 'business units' or 'income streams' imma gonna hurl. I just left the Big Company with the Easy Job to start my own biz cuz I got sick of the BS. Not to mention this really crystallized it for me.

Don't take my jokes too seriously, my biz consultant has an MBA and I pay extra for that and appreciate the extra education.

osprey34229 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:19:59pm

re: #37 SanFranciscoZionist

Do you have a copy of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Jihad downloaded to your computer, by any chance?

re: #37 SanFranciscoZionist

Do you have a copy of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Jihad downloaded to your computer, by any chance?

No should I?

SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:20:42pm

re: #39 elbruce

When I lived in Spokane in the 90's, the Aryan Nations were still active just over the WA/ID border, having parades and everything. The local synagogue had to hire an off-duty police officer to stand outside the place on Saturdays to make sure nothing happened.

In much of Europe, you'll never see a synagogue service without security guards or locked gates out front.

And in the States, often.

RadicalModerate Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:21:12pm

Osprey, FL - Isn't that near Tampa Bay, which is R*dan's stomping grounds?

Batman Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:22:18pm

re: #32 osprey34229

These could be self inflicted wounds. These fellows are
1/2 millennium behind in civilization 1/2 ahead in PR!
They play us like chumps! We never learn.

The kind of PR that says everyone deserves to be treated fairly definitely sounds "ahead of our civilization" at the moment. It's a shame.

sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:22:44pm

re: #23 ClaudeMonet

Third possibility--The inscriptions contained some distinctive phrasing or spelling that could link it to other incidents.

My money's on a combination of all three.

"Don't write naughty words on walls if you can't spell"--Tom Lehrer, Be Prepared

See Radicakls #29

Looks as if the graffiti is someones (or gangs) initials

Same was sprayed on the cars according to the witness

jamesfirecat Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:23:38pm

re: #32 osprey34229

These could be self inflicted wounds. These fellows are
1/2 millennium behind in civilization 1/2 ahead in PR!
They play us like chumps! We never learn.

Yeah and the abortion clinic owner could have torched it himself for the insurance....

SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:23:51pm

re: #45 sattv4u2

See Radicakls #29

Looks as if the graffiti is someones (or gangs) initials

Same was sprayed on the cars according to the witness

Looks like a sort of cross between desecrators and taggers.

I'm betting whoever they are, they're between the ages of fourteen and nineteen.

sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:24:45pm

re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist

Looks like a sort of cross between desecrators and taggers.

I'm betting whoever they are, they're between the ages of fourteen and nineteen.

Bingo

Late summers night ,,, boredom ,,, two (or more) teens ,,, two (or more) cans of spray paint

YOU do the math!

Ojoe Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:24:53pm

re: #34 SanFranciscoZionist

It is the primeval "Us vs. Them" scenario and there are plenty of people who buy into it, just set up one side & you'll have takers on the other. The particular conflict being discussed here is the militant type of islam vs "others" although plenty of groups not just islam have engaged in that.

I don't think we will see the end of this behavior anytime soon.

In fact the Democrats vs. Republicans "gig" is tainted with it too.

Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:25:29pm

Quote:

Members of the Islamic center near the Medical Center in northwest San Antonio said they came out from prayers Sunday to find the cars in the parking lot vandalized with graffiti and anti-Islamic messages.

ClaudeMonet Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:25:45pm

re: #35 Lidane

Nah, that's not me. I'd have to take myself seriously first, and that has yet to happen. XD

The way I see it, it's a degree that will help me get a better job, and in industries that I've either worked in before, or have an interest in.

Digital media sounds interesting, but I admit I have no idea what's involved.

It's basically a degree that incorporates teh internets and technology into business. Imagine the IT folks or the creative types on one side and the pencil pushers from Accounts Receivable and middle management on the other. I'll be able to talk to both of them and help them get things done.

Easy there, ace. I'm one of those "pencil pushers". ;) We're the guys everyone puts down until they need someone to tell them what the f*** happened when their grandiose projects and dreams, WHICH WE WARNED YOU ABOUT, fell apart.

RadicalModerate Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:25:47pm

re: #45 sattv4u2

See Radicakls #29

Looks as if the graffiti is someones (or gangs) initials

Same was sprayed on the cars according to the witness

I said *some* of it appears at first glance to be gang initials.

However, you skipped over the part where I mentioned that gang tagging doesn't typically include cars (which were hit here).
Nor does it include painting of anti-Muslim slurs, which did occur here.
And tagging normally doesn't include other vandalism - which also happened here.

ProMayaLiberal Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:25:51pm

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

I guess some American Muslims are a little more trusting of people. I know that some of the Mosques do have Sunday School and stuff. I'm skipping my church, I'll go and be with my friends, and see they don't get hurt.

re: #32 osprey34229

Go back to whatever hole you crawled out of. Who's the trool cooker?

osprey34229 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:25:54pm

re: #38 wrenchwench

You are a chump. Play somewhere else, please.

Very thoughtful.Do you remember the all the phoney pics
they put out, false stories wise up !

sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:25:54pm

re: #43 RadicalModerate

Osprey, FL - Isn't that near Tampa Bay, which is R*dan's stomping grounds?

And 34229 just HAPPENS to be the zip code for there !!!

SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:26:17pm

re: #48 sattv4u2

Bingo

Late summers night ,,, boredom ,,, two (or more) teens ,,, two (or more) cans of spray paint

YOU do the math!

Add a little family bitching and moaning about Muslims...

Kronocide Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:26:26pm

re: #35 Lidane

Digital media sounds interesting, but I admit I have no idea what's involved.

It's basically a degree that incorporates teh internets and technology into business. Imagine the IT folks or the creative types on one side and the pencil pushers from Accounts Receivable and middle management on the other. I'll be able to talk to both of them and help them get things done.

Find a passion first then use the MBA as a means to partake in it. I just spent 8 years of my career working for somebody who got a USC MBA: essentially, the last year before he finished, he looked for a cool new industry to start a company in and chose mine. He's done OK, but not that great.

'Digital Media' sounds great but it's a very wide spectrum. You could say I work in that industry too, even though I don't.

Ojoe Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:27:23pm

I think humanity would greatly benefit if we all refrained from going around with group labels stuck to our foreheads, so to speak.

SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:27:28pm

re: #54 osprey34229

Very thoughtful.Do you remember the all the phoney pics
they put out, false stories wise up !

THEY.

Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:27:59pm

re: #8 Charles

Wow. Obama's really laying into the Republicans in a speech in Milwaukee. Live on CNN.

What!? Any link to audio or a transcript? Sadly, I have a hard time imaging Obama calling anyone to task for anything, and would be very curious to see what this sounds like.

Crimsonfisted Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:28:28pm

re: #60 negativ

The speech

osprey34229 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:28:30pm

re: #55 sattv4u2

And 34229 just HAPPENS to be the zip code for there !!!

34229 is zip for Osprey & who is R'dan

ClaudeMonet Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:28:52pm

re: #59 SanFranciscoZionist

THEY.

Ah yes, THEY, the Terrorist Horde for the Extermination of You. Big group.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:29:12pm

re: #30 spikester

Yes. That guy exactly!

SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:29:49pm

re: #63 ClaudeMonet

Ah yes, THEY, the Terrorist Horde for the Extermination of You. Big group.

They scare me so much I can hardly remember my own name, let alone retain any kind of critical thinking facilities or sense of personal responsibility.

sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:30:27pm

re: #52 RadicalModerate

I said *some* of it appears at first glance to be gang initials.

However, you skipped over the part where I mentioned that gang tagging doesn't typically include cars (which were hit here).
Nor does it include painting of anti-Muslim slurs, which did occur here.
And tagging normally doesn't include other vandalism - which also happened here.

I'm talking about your video link
No mention from the on-site reporter nor the two people interviewed of Anti Muslim Slurs

[Link: www.kens5.com...]

Kronocide Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:30:54pm

'This is a holy war that has been going on for xxx's of years' sounds a little too much like 'the earth has been warming and cooling for eaons.'

BellaMac Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:31:22pm

re: #5 Lidane

Im not surprised that this happened if the UK is anything to go by. Saudis and other Islamists get into everything and cause trouble. They have mucho control of purse strings of some UK newspapers.

They're so fulla hate it shuldnt surprise them if they get hated. Believe me I know what Im talking about

sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:32:03pm

re: #56 SanFranciscoZionist

Add a little family bitching and moaning about Muslims...

No question, I'm sure

Tomorrow, the same two tag a Gay Bar ,,then a Mexican restaurant ,, then ,,,,

Varek Raith Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:32:05pm

re: #32 osprey34229

These could be self inflicted wounds. These fellows are
1/2 millennium behind in civilization 1/2 ahead in PR!
They play us like chumps! We never learn.

You would very much like this to be the case, wouldn't you?

Batman Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:32:44pm

Something tells me this Osprey guy could vandalize a mosque and convince himself they did it to themselves.

Kronocide Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:33:02pm

Last time I checked with my confidential sources, gang members do not work on Sunday mornings. The do most of their 'work' during the PM.

Any reports of 'tagging' and gang affiliations need to be confirmed by police gang units: they'll tell really quick whether it's the real deal, poseurs, or just junk.

SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:33:28pm

re: #68 BellaMac

Im not surprised that this happened if the UK is anything to go by. Saudis and other Islamists get into everything and cause trouble. They have mucho control of purse strings of some UK newspapers.

They're so fulla hate it shuldnt surprise them if they get hated. Believe me I know what Im talking about

That's the excuse for this sort of crap these days?

What's the excuse for when the same thing happens to the synagogue up the block? Do you accept that one too?

Bigoted nonsense, this is.

SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:34:09pm

re: #69 sattv4u2

No question, I'm sure

Tomorrow, the same two tag a Gay Bar ,,then a Mexican restaurant ,, then ,,,

Hopefully then they get arrested and do two hundred hours of community service scrubbing stuff, rather than advancing to trying to set fire to something.

Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:34:10pm

re: #66 sattv4u2

I'm talking about your video link
No mention from the on-site reporter nor the two people interviewed of Anti Muslim Slurs

[Link: www.kens5.com...]

Quote (again):

Members of the Islamic center near the Medical Center in northwest San Antonio said they came out from prayers Sunday to find the cars in the parking lot vandalized with graffiti and anti-Islamic messages.

It's right there on the page you're linking to.

allegro Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:34:22pm

re: #68 BellaMac

Im not surprised that this happened if the UK is anything to go by. Saudis and other Islamists get into everything and cause trouble. They have mucho control of purse strings of some UK newspapers.

They're so fulla hate it shuldnt surprise them if they get hated. Believe me I know what Im talking about

Pardon me if I'm misunderstanding your point... are you suggesting that the mosque and its believers deserved or otherwise have some responsibility for the vandalism?

wrenchwench Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:34:43pm

re: #68 BellaMac

Believe me I know what Im talking about

On your first comment this does not carry a lot of weight.

osprey34229 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:34:49pm

re: #63 ClaudeMonet

Ah yes, THEY, the Terrorist Horde for the Extermination of You. Big group.

They have done one hell of a job already or have you
forgotten 9/11.

sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:35:08pm

re: #72 BigPapa

Last time I checked with my confidential sources, gang members do not work on Sunday mornings. The do most of their 'work' during the PM.

Any reports of 'tagging' and gang affiliations need to be confirmed by police gang units: they'll tell really quick whether it's the real deal, poseurs, or just junk.

Reporter states "over the weekend ,, after prayer"

about -1:10 in

[Link: www.kens5.com...]

SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:35:08pm

re: #76 allegro

Pardon me if I'm misunderstanding your point... are you suggesting that the mosque and its believers deserved or otherwise have some responsibility for the vandalism?

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no...yes.

A Man for all Seasons Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:35:09pm

re: #62 osprey34229

34229 is zip for Osprey & who is R'dan

It's Rodan..Not R'dan...That punk will never make mythical here..It's plain old 'I'm A dumbass and got banned here Rodan' That's the best he could do...

Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:35:13pm

Incoming.

Kronocide Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:35:28pm

Osprey.... hm.

Reminds me of a time when a hatchling came in with the nic 'Raven' or 'The Crow' or something. His first or second post was 'caw caw caw caw' or something like that....

Charles banned him. Comedy gold, still laugh about that.

SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:35:29pm

re: #77 wrenchwench

On your first comment this does not carry a lot of weight.

Especially if you cannot punctuate to save your life.

sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:36:00pm

re: #75 Charles

Quote (again):

It's right there on the page you're linking to.

yes it is,, but it is NOT stated in the on site report,, NOR by the two young men (witnesses)

jamesfirecat Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:36:03pm

re: #68 BellaMac

Im not surprised that this happened if the UK is anything to go by. Saudis and other Islamists get into everything and cause trouble. They have mucho control of purse strings of some UK newspapers.

They're so fulla hate it shuldnt surprise them if they get hated. Believe me I know what Im talking about

"They have mucho control of purse strings of some UK newspapers."

////Don't worry that won't happen here as long as we have Rupert Murdoch to defend us!

allegro Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:36:18pm

re: #69 sattv4u2

Tomorrow, the same two tag a Gay Bar ,,then a Mexican restaurant ,, then ,,,

Oh, those silly scamps... boys will be boys, right?

SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:36:39pm

re: #78 osprey34229

They have done one hell of a job already or have you
forgotten 9/11.

Oh, go away. Your sort doesn't care about those who died and suffered on 9/11, you just want a flag to wrap yourself in so your religious bigotry looks more respectable.

RadicalModerate Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:37:30pm

re: #81 HoosierHoops

I use the wildcard simply because I don't want to give that asshat the pleasure of my calling him by name.

Varek Raith Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:37:31pm

re: #78 osprey34229

All Muslims are terrorists in your eyes, yes?

osprey34229 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:37:45pm

re: #71 nonsense

Something tells me this Osprey guy could vandalize a mosque and convince himself they did it to themselves.

What gives you that idea? Is it because you have no
retort to my PR statement.

sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:37:54pm

re: #87 allegro

Oh, those silly scamps... boys will be boys, right?

Yup ,,, because thats EXACTLY what I said

(except for the part where I didn't)

Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:38:09pm

re: #85 sattv4u2

yes it is,, but it is NOT stated in the on site report,, NOR by the two young men (witnesses)

Are you trying to suggest it didn't happen because the one-minute video doesn't mention it?

Batman Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:38:46pm

re: #91 osprey34229

What gives you that idea? Is it because you have no
retort to my PR statement.

Orly.

re: #44 nonsense

The kind of PR that says everyone deserves to be treated fairly definitely sounds "ahead of our civilization" at the moment. It's a shame.

RadicalModerate Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:38:55pm

re: #85 sattv4u2

You're deliberately being dense here, or do you discount the police reports because the on-camera segment didn't include it?

Kronocide Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:39:19pm

re: #78 osprey34229

They have done one hell of a job already or have you
forgotten 9/11.

9/11? What is that? Oh, yeah, sorry. I forgot. You're right, they're exterminating us. My bad.

Vandalizing mosques will sure take care of that problem, won't it?

allegro Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:39:37pm

re: #92 sattv4u2

Yup ,,, because thats EXACTLY what I said

(except for the part where I didn't)

How many times are you going to use that same excuse today for your idiot statements?

wrenchwench Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:39:38pm

re: #84 SanFranciscoZionist

Especially if you cannot punctuate to save your life.

That will never fly with the LGF Board of How Shit Oughtta Be.

Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:39:42pm

Sometimes you can almost feel the average IQ of the room drop.

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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:39:53pm

re: #91 osprey34229

What gives you that idea? Is it because you have no
retort to my PR statement.

The Muslims control the media!!!

(SHIT! MY people were supposed to control the media! What the hell went wrong! MOIIISH! Moish, we got a problem!!)

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Varek Raith Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:40:56pm

re: #100 SanFranciscoZionist

The Muslims control the media!!!

(SHIT! MY people were supposed to control the media! What the hell went wrong! MOIIISH! Moish, we got a problem!!)

Seriously!
Who the hell's supposed to be paying my checks?
The Zionist Overlords or the Muslim Overlords.
I'm so confused.

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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:41:03pm

re: #93 Charles

Are you trying to suggest it didn't happen because the one-minute video doesn't mention it?

Not at all

That stated, I would think that there would (should) be a mention of it from the reporter as well as the two young men

News orgs are driven by ratings
The report would have more legs with the inclusion of the slurs (or mention of them) rather than just (what looks like) gang signs, which are very common

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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:41:11pm

re: #100 SanFranciscoZionist

The Muslims control the media!!!

(SHIT! MY people were supposed to control the media! What the hell went wrong! MOIIISH! Moish, we got a problem!!)

you guys control everything..Didn't you get the memo?
*wink*

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osprey34229 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:41:16pm

re: #88 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, go away. Your sort doesn't care about those who died and suffered on 9/11, you just want a flag to wrap yourself in so your religious bigotry looks more respectable.

Very judgmental !

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Kronocide Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:41:35pm

re: #99 Charles

Comic gold Charles.

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Batman Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:41:47pm

re: #104 osprey34229

Very judgmental !

Congratulations, you win irony.

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Wozza Matter? Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:42:31pm

re: #68 BellaMac

Im not surprised that this happened if the UK is anything to go by. Saudis and other Islamists get into everything and cause trouble. They have mucho control of purse strings of some UK newspapers.

They're so fulla hate it shuldnt surprise them if they get hated. Believe me I know what Im talking about

STFU

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wrenchwench Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:42:46pm

re: #102 sattv4u2

News orgs are driven by ratings
The report would have more legs with the inclusion of the slurs (or mention of them) rather than just (what looks like) gang signs, which are very common

Fer cryin' out loud, it's San Antonio. What kind of high falutin' standards are you holding them to?

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spikester Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:42:59pm

re: #104 osprey34229

Very judgmental !

don't know much about lgf do you?

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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:43:22pm

re: #104 osprey34229

Very judgmental !

Better believe it.

You, OTOH, seem like an open-minded sort.

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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:43:47pm

re: #106 nonsense

Congratulations, you win irony.

It's not as valuable as goldy and silvery, but I'm sure you can get something for it.

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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:43:47pm

re: #108 wrenchwench

Fer cryin' out loud, it's San Antonio. What kind of high falutin' standards are you holding them to?

Your right

I noticed the camera never showed below the reporters knees

Prolly no shoes!!
//

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Varek Raith Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:44:21pm

Image: irony.jpg

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Varek Raith Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:44:44pm

re: #111 SanFranciscoZionist

It's not as valuable as goldy and silvery, but I'm sure you can get something for it.

Platinumy.

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RadicalModerate Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:44:52pm

By the way, did anyone else see that story on CNN about the sex shop in Amsterdam that recently opened up to cater to Muslims?

Sort of flies in the face that all of the Muslim faith is sexually repressed.

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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:45:21pm

re: #108 wrenchwench

re: #112 sattv4u2

You're right

I noticed the camera never showed below the reporters knees

Prolly no shoes!!
//

pimf

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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:45:47pm

re: #115 RadicalModerate

By the way, did anyone else see that story on CNN about the sex shop in Amsterdam that recently opened up to cater to Muslims?

Sort of flies in the face that all of the Muslim faith is sexually repressed.

OK, I'll bite. What makes a Muslim sex shop different from a Christian, Jewish, Hindu, agnostic or atheist sex shop?

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allegro Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:46:31pm

re: #117 SanFranciscoZionist

They do it facing east?

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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:46:42pm

re: #115 RadicalModerate

By the way, did anyone else see that story on CNN about the sex shop in Amsterdam that recently opened up to cater to Muslims?

Sort of flies in the face that all of the Muslim faith is sexually repressed.

heh ,, the stories I could tell you

I've done work in the Middle East (Jordan , the UAE ,,, Saudi Arabia)

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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:47:17pm

re: #117 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, I'll bite. What makes a Muslim sex shop different from a Christian, Jewish, Hindu, agnostic or atheist sex shop?

The rugs are better!

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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:47:42pm

re: #104 osprey34229

Very judgmental !

Really..Let's talk about Judgment...You get 3 downdings for every thing you say...Let's talk..I would love to be enlightened by you

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RadicalModerate Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:49:57pm

re: #117 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, I'll bite. What makes a Muslim sex shop different from a Christian, Jewish, Hindu, agnostic or atheist sex shop?

From the story, all items sold, and marketing has to conform to Sharia tenets. Primarily, no sex toys and no explicit sexual acts depicted on marketing materials. However that still leaves a lot of leeway as to what can or cannot be marketed.

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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:50:38pm

re: #100 SanFranciscoZionist

The Muslims control the media!!!

(SHIT! MY people were supposed to control the media! What the hell went wrong! MOIIISH! Moish, we got a problem!!)

Oy! That one goes into the favorites! LOL!

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reine.de.tout Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:51:00pm

re: #54 osprey34229

Very thoughtful.Do you remember the all the phoney pics
they put out, false stories wise up !

re: #104 osprey34229

Very judgmental !

re: #100 SanFranciscoZionist

The Muslims control the media!!!

(SHIT! MY people were supposed to control the media! What the hell went wrong! MOIIISH! Moish, we got a problem!!)

Get with the program SFZ.
That should be " . . . the media ! . . . got a problem !!"

Remember to put that space in there.

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tradewind Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:51:37pm

re: #60 negativ
Russ sends his regrets:
[Link: www.politico.com...]

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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:52:01pm

re: #32 osprey34229

These could be self inflicted wounds. These fellows are
1/2 millennium behind in civilization 1/2 ahead in PR!
They play us like chumps! We never learn.

Are you the sort of person who blames slavery on the slaves?

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osprey34229 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:52:06pm

Well you fine folks sure told me ! I'll just raise the iq of the
group and leave you to your usual redundant prattle. Just
remember THEY are playing US like a $2.00 guitar!

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wrenchwench Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:52:25pm

re: #124 reine.de.tout

Looks sorts familiar....

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jamesfirecat Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:52:38pm

re: #117 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, I'll bite. What makes a Muslim sex shop different from a Christian, Jewish, Hindu, agnostic or atheist sex shop?

///Well you know how there isn't suppose to be anything made in the image of Mohammad?

(This joke brought to you by my poor taste and poor impulse control)

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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:52:46pm

re: #122 RadicalModerate

From the story, all items sold, and marketing has to conform to Sharia tenets. Primarily, no sex toys and no explicit sexual acts depicted on marketing materials. However that still leaves a lot of leeway as to what can or cannot be marketed.

No sex toys at all?

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spikester Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:53:43pm

re: #127 osprey34229

Well you fine folks sure told me ! I'll just raise the iq of the
group and leave you to your usual redundant prattle. Just
remember THEY are playing US like a $2.00 guitar!

upding for leaving!

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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:54:08pm

Oh brother.

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RadicalModerate Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:54:19pm

re: #130 SanFranciscoZionist

No sex toys at all?

That may have been a bit too broad - they mentioned no phallic toys (ie dildoes)

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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:54:40pm

re: #126 eclectic infidel

Are you the sort of person who blames slavery on the slaves?

Well ,, if they didn't go down to the shore when those ships showed up to see what was going on ,,,,,

MAJOR ////////

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allegro Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:55:03pm

re: #133 RadicalModerate

That may have been a bit too broad - they mentioned no phallic toys (ie dildoes)

Meh. That's what zucchini is for.

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RadicalModerate Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:57:32pm

Looks like CNN's got the video linked on their main site now.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:58:02pm

re: #127 osprey34229

You are so lame...All you had to do was defend your position..Until you can do that..Shut the Hell up about where you stand..Cause..Really..Nobody cares...

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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:58:35pm

re: #135 allegro

Meh. That's what zucchini is for.

Natural pleasure?

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prairiefire Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:58:37pm

I was very glad to hear the interim preacher's sermon at my in laws Presb. church yesterday morning. He covered how Ann Rice had some very good points in renouncing the "anti-everything" Christian church and that Koran burnings were a horrible event that he was sure Jesus would disapprove of. It put a big smile on my face.

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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 1:58:54pm

re: #137 HoosierHoops

You are so lame...All you had to do was defend your position..Until you can do that..Shut the Hell up about where you stand..Cause..Really..Nobody cares...

I care!

Oh ,, wait

No I don't

I was thinking of someone else!!!

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wrenchwench Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:02:00pm

re: #136 RadicalModerate

Looks like CNN's got the video linked on their main site now.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

I keep getting the Sonic ad...over and over... I think I have to go to lunch now....

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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:04:35pm

re: #141 wrenchwench

I keep getting the Sonic ad...over and over... I think I have to go to lunch now...

Blackberry Torch ad for me

Guess I have to make a call,, or send an e-mail ,,, SUMFIN!

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Boondock St. Bender Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:08:33pm

wow what heros
sneaking in an vandalising other folks property...
that'll teach them to pracice their religion....
jack-asses.

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RadicalModerate Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:08:51pm

Hrm. Worked for me - try this one instead, it may work better

[Link: cnn.com...]

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Boondock St. Bender Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:09:04pm

re: #143 Boondock St. Bender

whoops...practice..
pimf

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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:10:48pm

re: #144 RadicalModerate

Hrm. Worked for me - try this one instead, it may work better

[Link: cnn.com...]

It worked for me also (just after the Blackberry Ad)

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brookly red Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:11:41pm

re: #139 prairiefire

I was very glad to hear the interim preacher's sermon at my in laws Presb. church yesterday morning. He covered how Ann Rice had some very good points in renouncing the "anti-everything" Christian church and that Koran burnings were a horrible event that he was sure Jesus would disapprove of. It put a big smile on my face.

I am coming in late so sorry if it has been mentioned already, but when I hear about this Quran burning stuff I can't help but think that I wouldn't want to be serving in someplace like Afghanistan & have to deal with the fall out, if you know what I mean.

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right_wing2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:12:10pm

There's no excuse for vandalism of ANY kind- whether it's against a mosque, a church, synagogue, business or political office.

I may not agree with someone's beliefs. Hell, I may not even respect someone's beliefs. But I respect their right to hold them.

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PhillyPretzel Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:13:10pm

re: #148 right_wing2

Amen

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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:14:27pm

re: #147 brookly red

I am coming in late so sorry if it has been mentioned already, but when I hear about this Quran burning stuff I can't help but think that I wouldn't want to be serving in someplace like Afghanistan & have to deal with the fall out, if you know what I mean.

morons

STFU
STFD

and whoever taught these assclowns how to use a match,,, FU Too!!

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kellygrrrl Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:14:52pm

good thing we now have the Rightwingers on record admitting that there is an obvious connection between RHETORIC and VIOLENCE

[Link: crooksandliars.com...]

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Reginald Perrin Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:15:02pm

re: #127 osprey34229

Before you leave would you be kind enough to please answer one question?

What is it that you and your fellow stalker trolls think you accomplish when you come here and litter the threads with troll droppings?

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brookly red Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:15:29pm

re: #150 sattv4u2

morons

STFU
STFD

and whoever taught these assclowns how to use a match,,, FU Too!!

I think that means you agree?

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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:16:02pm

re: #153 brookly red

I think that means you agree?

Indubadibly!

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Boondock St. Bender Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:16:57pm

re: #147 brookly red

brookly...i honestly think that those types don't care.
it's all about them.

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Kronocide Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:17:48pm

re: #147 brookly red

I am coming in late so sorry if it has been mentioned already, but when I hear about this Quran burning stuff I can't help but think that I wouldn't want to be serving in someplace like Afghanistan & have to deal with the fall out, if you know what I mean.

It's worth mentioning again even if it has been addressed. The actual Islamic terrorist PR specialists are eating up this stuff and will use it for more propaganda, you can bet on that.

Talk about 'getting played like a $2 guitar.'

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elizajane Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:18:19pm

re: #147 brookly red

I am coming in late so sorry if it has been mentioned already, but when I hear about this Quran burning stuff I can't help but think that I wouldn't want to be serving in someplace like Afghanistan & have to deal with the fall out, if you know what I mean.

General Petraeus said much the same thing today ("unhelpful" was his mild term), causing lots of armchair soldiers on Weaselzippers & other hate sites to jump about shrieking "Go on, burn those Korans! Just let them [bigoted word]s try anything with me! I've got a great big gun in my closet!"

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prairiefire Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:18:22pm

I don't think I care for "Crooks & Liars" new red, white, and blue page format. It makes them look like many other blogs.

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brookly red Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:19:56pm

re: #155 Boondock St. Bender

brookly...i honestly think that those types don't care.
it's all about them.

You a probably right... now I have no problem with people protesting something but nothing good can come from deliberate provocation.

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Boondock St. Bender Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:21:51pm

re: #159 brookly red

no,no it can't(except perhaps get more attention and money for whoever is doing it)

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PhillyPretzel Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:22:52pm

Here is an article from The Wall Street Journal: [Link: online.wsj.com...]

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brookly red Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:23:47pm

re: #161 PhillyPretzel

Here is an article from The Wall Street Journal: [Link: online.wsj.com...]

yeah, like that...

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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:23:53pm

re: #147 brookly red

I am coming in late so sorry if it has been mentioned already, but when I hear about this Quran burning stuff I can't help but think that I wouldn't want to be serving in someplace like Afghanistan & have to deal with the fall out, if you know what I mean.

It's not good PR, although I comfort myself with the thought that if people like this weren't doing it, our enemies would probably make it up anyway.

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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:25:34pm

re: #157 elizajane

General Petraeus said much the same thing today ("unhelpful" was his mild term), causing lots of armchair soldiers on Weaselzippers & other hate sites to jump about shrieking "Go on, burn those Korans! Just let them [bigoted word]s try anything with me! I've got a great big gun in my closet!"

Yes, well, I may or may not have a great big gun in my closet myself, but I live in Northern California.

My brother-in-law, OTOH, is in Afghanistan. He also has a great big gun, but so do a lot of other people I'd just as soon not have anything to be madder at him about. Ya know?

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brookly red Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:26:18pm

re: #163 SanFranciscoZionist

It's not good PR, although I comfort myself with the thought that if people like this weren't doing it, our enemies would probably make it up anyway.

yes the alleged Guantanamo flushings come to mind...

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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:26:24pm

re: #159 brookly red

You a probably right... now I have no problem with people protesting something but nothing good can come from deliberate provocation.

I'm OK with them protesting. I object to book burning, and also to the idea of protesting a whole religion because you think yours is better. (Not yours, brookly, yours, generic.)

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brookly red Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:28:16pm

re: #166 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm OK with them protesting. I object to book burning, and also to the idea of protesting a whole religion because you think yours is better. (Not yours, brookly, yours, generic.)

/generic religion? Hmmmm could be money to be made here...

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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:29:28pm

re: #165 brookly red

yes the alleged Guantanamo flushings come to mind...

Guantanamo Flushings

Sounds like a Spanish section in New York!!

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brookly red Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:31:09pm

re: #168 sattv4u2

Guantanamo Flushings

Sounds like a Spanish section in New York!!

//

Flushing is the ethnic food err, Mecca for sure...

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:32:04pm

OT...

Let's go Hokies! (clap clap clapclapclap)
Let's go Hokies! (clap clap clapclapclap)

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wrenchwench Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:32:41pm

OK, joining Facebook just paid off. A friend of my little brother posted a 20 year old photo of him sleeping in 12th grade physics class. Mouth open and everything. I'm still laughing.

Said brother now has a PhD, so no harm done, apparently.

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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:33:06pm

re: #170 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

OT...

Let's go Hokies! (clap clap clapclapclap)
Let's go Hokies! (clap clap clapclapclap)

The NCAA will be going CRAZY if Boise State wins tonight then wins out after

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Fart Knocker Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:33:19pm

re: #170 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

OT...

Let's go Hokies! (clap clap clapclapclap)
Let's go Hokies! (clap clap clapclapclap)

HELL YEAH!!!

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Varek Raith Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:33:52pm

re: #170 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

OT...

Let's go Hokies! (clap clap clapclapclap)
Let's go Hokies! (clap clap clapclapclap)

Gawd, sport's nerds.
9_9
///

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:33:54pm

re: #172 sattv4u2

Fer sher...

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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:36:33pm

re: #169 brookly red

Flushing is the ethnic food err, Mecca for sure...

Flushing

Gateway to Murray Hill

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Mentis Fugit Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:37:17pm

re: #135 allegro

Meh. That's what zucchini is for.

So wait, have I got this right: Muslim sex shops include a vegetable stand?

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:38:07pm

re: #172 sattv4u2

The NCAA will be going CRAZY if Boise State wins tonight then wins out after

Just looked at their schedule... one of the times when "cupcake" has a bad meaning...

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brookly red Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:38:32pm

re: #177 Mentis Fugit

So wait, have I got this right: Muslim sex shops include a vegetable stand?

must not respond...
must not respond...
must not respond...

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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:39:30pm

re: #178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just looked at their schedule... one of the times when "cupcake" has a bad meaning...

I know , thats what I mean

I think after tonight the toughest game they have will be ,,, umm,,, eerrr,,,, hell ,, they DON'T have a "toughest"!

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b_sharp Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:40:57pm

re: #127 osprey34229

Well you fine folks sure told me ! I'll just raise the iq of the
group and leave you to your usual redundant prattle. Just
remember THEY are playing US like a $2.00 guitar!

A $2.00 guitar is rather difficult to play because the intonation is impossible to set.

I guess his leaving really would raise the avg IQ.

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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:42:04pm

re: #181 b_sharp

A $2.00 guitar is rather difficult to play because the intonation is impossible to set.

I guess his leaving really would raise the avg IQ.

It's dead, Jim!

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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:42:05pm

re: #130 SanFranciscoZionist

No sex toys at all?

As far as I know, there is no prohibition against electric toothbrushes in Saudi Arabia.

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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:43:37pm

re: #183 negativ

As far as I know, there is no prohibition against electric toothbrushes in Saudi Arabia.

If you have one in Mississippi, you're considered show offish

for TWO reasons

A),, you have teeth
B) ,, you have electricity!!

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elbruce Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:44:02pm

re: #147 brookly red

I am coming in late so sorry if it has been mentioned already, but when I hear about this Quran burning stuff I can't help but think that I wouldn't want to be serving in someplace like Afghanistan & have to deal with the fall out, if you know what I mean.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Gen. David Petraeus said the Taliban would exploit the demonstration for propaganda purposes, drumming up anger toward the U.S. and making it harder for allied troops to carry out their mission of protecting Afghan civilians.

"It could endanger troops and it could endanger the overall effort," Gen. Petraeus said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal. "It is precisely the kind of action the Taliban uses and could cause significant problems. Not just here, but everywhere in the world we are engaged with the Islamic community."

Hundreds of Afghans attended a demonstration in Kabul on Monday to protest the plans of Florida pastor Terry Jones, who has said he will burn the Quran on Sept. 11.

Yeah, they're basically putting our troops in danger with this crap.

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b_sharp Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:45:53pm

re: #152 Reginald Perrin

Before you leave would you be kind enough to please answer one question?

What is it that you and your fellow stalker trolls think you accomplish when you come here and litter the threads with troll droppings?

They're fertilizing the growth of liberal attitudes and solidly reasoned arguments in us. They get nothing out of it but looking crap-tastically stupid.

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Mentis Fugit Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:48:00pm

At least now we're seeing how near Ground Zero is appropriate for a ~~Muslim community center~~Big Scary Mosque O'Doom-And-Jihad.

Twenty-five thousand blocks is still too close for the knuckle-draggers.

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b_sharp Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:49:06pm

re: #171 wrenchwench

OK, joining Facebook just paid off. A friend of my little brother posted a 20 year old photo of him sleeping in 12th grade physics class. Mouth open and everything. I'm still laughing.

Said brother now has a PhD, so no harm done, apparently.

I found grade 12 Algebra the best class in which to snooze.

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wrenchwench Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:49:58pm

re: #188 b_sharp

I found grade 12 Algebra the best class in which to snooze.

It was chemistry for me. Still got an A.

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Aceofwhat? Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:50:27pm

re: #100 SanFranciscoZionist

The Muslims control the media!!!

(SHIT! MY people were supposed to control the media! What the hell went wrong! MOIIISH! Moish, we got a problem!!)

that almost made me pee, and i'm wearing my Federer shorts, so it would have been even worse than your usual inadvertent pee on the couch, because i love these Federer shorts/

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b_sharp Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:51:13pm

re: #182 sattv4u2

It's dead, Jim!

You've already had your fun, now it's my turn. I'll just pretend he's still here.

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prairiefire Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:55:09pm

re: #188 b_sharp

I found grade 12 Algebra the best class in which to snooze.

Quantitative Business Analysis for me.

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wrenchwench Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:58:20pm

re: #192 prairiefire

Quantitative Business Analysis for me.

Wow, I almost fell asleep just reading the name of that class.

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b_sharp Mon, Sep 6, 2010 2:58:25pm

re: #192 prairiefire

Quantitative Business Analysis for me.

Anything with the word 'business' in it is a fast acting sedative.

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Reginald Perrin Mon, Sep 6, 2010 3:03:11pm

re: #186 b_sharp

They're fertilizing the growth of liberal attitudes and solidly reasoned arguments in us. They get nothing out of it but looking crap-tastically stupid.

I have never received a straight answer to that question in all the years I have studied trolls.
My theory..... their goal is to derail threads and disrupt civil debate.

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prairiefire Mon, Sep 6, 2010 3:06:36pm

re: #193 wrenchwench

Wow, I almost fell asleep just reading the name of that class.

I really enjoyed the instructor when I took Organizational Management from him. Plus, he was grading my Senior paper for my English degree. He said, "perhaps your grade would be higher if you did not spend your whole time staring out of the window."
I still have anxiety dreams about passing that dam class to get my degrees. To.this.day.

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b_sharp Mon, Sep 6, 2010 3:20:11pm

re: #195 Reginald Perrin

I have never received a straight answer to that question in all the years I have studied trolls.
My theory... their goal is to derail threads and disrupt civil debate.

Their goal is to prove their superiority and gather accolades from their fellow dim-wits.

Crack open a troll and you'll find a terrified little kid about to wet his/her panties.

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tradewind Mon, Sep 6, 2010 3:27:25pm

re: #158 prairiefire

I don't think I care for "Crooks & Liars

.....
Stopping there works for me./

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Romantic Heretic Mon, Sep 6, 2010 3:28:24pm

re: #28 ClaudeMonet

I trust you won't wind up like most of the MBAs I knew in my last corporate job. Pompous, self-impressed, jargon-spouting douchebags, overpaid to be "pigeon execs" who make a lot of noise, crap all over the place, and fly away.

Digital media sounds interesting, but I admit I have no idea what's involved.

Pigeon execs? What a perfect description.

The best book I ever read on running a business had a short chapter on MBAs. Its advice? Don't hire them, ever.

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prairiefire Mon, Sep 6, 2010 3:37:13pm

re: #199 Romantic Heretic

Pigeon execs? What a perfect description.

The best book I ever read on running a business had a short chapter on MBAs. Its advice? Don't hire them, ever.

I'm a Peter F. Drucker gal, myself. "Theories of Organizational Management", very insightful book.

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Romantic Heretic Mon, Sep 6, 2010 3:41:06pm

re: #127 osprey34229

Well you fine folks sure told me ! I'll just raise the iq of the
group and leave you to your usual redundant prattle. Just
remember THEY are playing US like a $2.00 guitar!

Nah. They're playing you like a $2.00 guitar. The mere thought of them makes you scream like a little girl.

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Mentis Fugit Mon, Sep 6, 2010 3:41:39pm

re: #199 Romantic Heretic

Pigeon execs? What a perfect description.

"Seagull management" works much better for me; pigeons can't hold a candle to gulls when it comes to meaningless noise, and gulls are notorious for circling endlessly while shitting on you from a great height. Pigeons? Dilettantes!

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Romantic Heretic Mon, Sep 6, 2010 3:43:42pm

re: #200 prairiefire

I'm a Peter F. Drucker gal, myself. "Theories of Organizational Management", very insightful book.

Drucker's pretty good. What keeps his stuff from the top of my list is he writes mostly for experts in the same field. I find them a bit too esoteric and jargon laden.

Still, interesting and brilliant insights in his work.

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Romantic Heretic Mon, Sep 6, 2010 3:45:32pm

re: #202 Mentis Fugit

"Seagull management" works much better for me; pigeons can't hold a candle to gulls when it comes to meaningless noise, and gulls are notorious for circling endlessly while shitting on you from a great height. Pigeons? Dilettantes!

Quick joke.

Two seagulls are flying over the sports stadium of your choice.

One says to the other, "You know, there are 50,000 people sitting down there."

The reply: "Kind of takes the skill out of it."

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Romantic Heretic Mon, Sep 6, 2010 3:52:13pm

re: #183 negativ