What is a "bold-faced liar" anyway? And can you qualify if you lie in italics or all caps instead?

What the hell does socialism have to do with this?

re: #2 Obdicut

That's her everready label for "bad guy"
comsidering who it's coming from,anyone short of jp morgan or andrew carnagie is a socialist.

A few years back, I remember being very offended that Cindy Sheehan would use other people's dead sons and daughters for her protest, against the wishes of the parents.

The principle still stands.

Let them have a day to mourn in peace.

Why is the MSM even paying attention to a blogger who can't spell, use common phrases like "bald-faced liar" or use basic web formatting anyway?

re: #5 elbruce

cause she has a gang of idiots who follow her.

re: #4 EmmmieG

A few years back, I remember being very offended that Cindy Sheehan would use other people's dead sons and daughters for her protest, against the wishes of the parents.

As I recall, she was just using her own. If she hadn't lost a son, you might have a real solid point there.

re: #2 Obdicut

Socialists are evil. Anyone who crosses Pamela Geller is evil. Therefore anyone who crosses her is a socialist.

The world according to Pam.

re: #8 Quant

now you got it!

Pamela Geller shouldn't type during her hot flashes.

re: #10 darthstar

wish she wouldn't type at all

re: #7 elbruce

As I recall, she was just using her own. If she hadn't lost a son, you might have a real solid point there.

No, she had a bunch of fake gravestones with the names of other deceased soldiers. At least one father flew down there to remove his son's "headstone" in person.

I'll see if I can find a cached news story about it.

Cool, that's Christopher Hitchens's son.

re: #2 Obdicut

What the hell does socialism have to do with this?

I'm wondering what blood suckers have to do with it as well. I think our fascination with vampires sucks.

re: #14 BigPapa

pam has studied her goebbels very well.the invective and phrasing are very similar.

re: #14 BigPapa

Oh, fangs for getting a pun thread started. I don't want us to get into a position where wolfing down all puns, no matter how bad, is seen as something to brag to mummy about. I don't suppose there's a ghost of a chance you'll ask for your comment to be put in an early grave so that we don't have to deal with phantom of a pun thread. I don't want to be a harpy, I just know this will be a siren call.

Wikipedia link:

Some parents approved, some did not:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

The father that flew down there was Gary Qualls.

re: #17 EmmmieG

My point here is not about Cindy Sheehan. It is that if you protest someone using other people's dead for a cause on the left, then you must protest it on the right, too.

re: #16 Obdicut

Oh, fangs for getting a pun thread started. I don't want us to get into a position where wolfing down all puns, no matter how bad, is seen as something to brag to mummy about. I don't suppose there's a ghost of a chance you'll ask for your comment to be put in an early grave so that we don't have to deal with phantom of a pun thread. I don't want to be a harpy, I just know this will be a siren call.

your post made me jump foe joey

re: #18 EmmmieG

bad taste to say the least in all cases

re: #15 Boondock St. Bender

pam has studied her goebbels very well.the invective and phrasing are very similar.

Though I did pun about 'socialist vampires,' a common 30's meme was Jews as vampires. While I don't think Geller is actively studying and recasting a new (old) meme, the thought is chilling.

I really don't think she's that smart, she's just a power drunk hack with a keyboard that cannot hold stop typing crazy shit.

re: #21 BigPapa

Though I did pun about 'socialist vampires,' a common 30's meme was Jews as vampires. While I don't think Geller is actively studying and recasting a new (old) meme, the thought is chilling.

I really don't think she's that smart, she's just a power drunk hack with a keyboard that cannot hold stop typing crazy shit.

Ironic considering the laws of kosher.

re: #12 EmmmieG

No, she had a bunch of fake gravestones with the names of other deceased soldiers. At least one father flew down there to remove his son's "headstone" in person.

Well, that's way over the line. As I recall, Bush did meet her once. She then started her activist career based on demanding that he meet with her, even though he already had. So she wasn't really playing very fair the whole time.

But for me, I'd be a lot less harsh in criticizing somebody who actually did lose a kid than somebody who hadn't, just as I'd be a lot less harsh in criticizing a Park51 opponent who actually lost a family member in 9/11 rather than somebody who hadn't.

Grief can mess people up.

re: #21 BigPapa

Though I did pun about 'socialist vampires,' a common 30's meme was Jews as vampires. While I don't think Geller is actively studying and recasting a new (old) meme, the thought is chilling.

I really don't think she's that smart, she's just a power drunk hack with a keyboard that cannot hold stop typing crazy shit.

You don't have to be smart to do that kind of thing on purpose, and Geller frequently uses Nazi-like language to describe Muslims, such as "parasites" and "vermin," and even compares them to rats.

Bary's Attorney Sues Pamela Geller for $10 Million

haha

re: #25 beekiller

wow someone actually married that...

I work for a large corporation which lost many people in the Twin Towers. Our computers suddenly all went out, and we were standing around chatting about how dependent we were on computers, when one of our colleagues got a call from her husband's cell phone. He was trapped under debris, and a big jet had hit the towers.

Some of us called friends or relatives, and got them to hold the telephone near their TV's since we had no way of getting news. Everyone started doing that, and all of us from mail room workers to executive staff huddled together listening to the TV through speaker phones.

I won't tell you how many we lost. I won't tell you how many funerals I attended, and how many living rooms I sat in, crying with the spouses and families of the wonderful people we lost.

But I will tell you that on that first day, as we stood together with tears in our eyes, knowing we were losing friends, the 3 Muslim workers in our office stood off to the side, crying. They felt conflicted about approaching us. Until one of my friends went over a hugged them. Then they came in, and cried with us, and went to funerals with us, and they went to our religious memorials, and they cursed the names of Atta and the others who hijacked the planes, along with all the rest of us. Because they lost the same friends we did, and suffered as we did. Because they were us.

So people who want to lump Muslims together, and hate on Muslims, and make hateful comments about anyone who worships the Islamic faith, can just go to bloody hell.

re: #2 Obdicut

What the hell does socialism have to do with this?

It's just a general cuss word, in this usage.

re: #24 Charles

You don't have to be smart to do that kind of thing on purpose, and Geller frequently uses Nazi-like language to describe Muslims, such as "parasites" and "vermin," and even comparing them to rats.

True, you are correct. I agree those terms are 'Nazi like' and it does raise that evil specter.

I admit that part of me doesn't want to believe in that specter of evil: I'd rather think she's just a hack who happened to end up using the same terms. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt of being a sloppy power drunk racist hack and not an order of evil higher student of Goebbels maintaining a dog whistle campaign to awaken the sleeping fascist hordes.

You can accuse me of rose colored glasses now. If she is the latter then she is even more evil than I thought.

I wonder how she posts sober?

(Okay, that was mean. Sorry.)

re: #27 thatthatisis

thank you for sharing your experience.
those who wish to hate and spread that hate, find that it makes it easier if you dehumanize and demonize those they are targeting.
it would never cross the mind of those like pamela that muslims are people,
people like us.like us there are those that are kind giving wonderful people,and like us there are those consumed by anger and hatred.

re: #30 EmmmieG

I wonder how she posts sober?

(Okay, that was mean. Sorry.)

That was the feeling I got from this particular post too.

re: #29 BigPapa

i was being snarky when i made my comment.(i don't think she purposely studied goebbells)but when you do what she does,i think you naturally fall into a pattern that is very similar to what he did.(and when you find yourself using that guys favorite phrases...perhaps it's time to take a long hard look at yourself.)

re: #30 EmmmieG

"i have a web site???...atlas who???"

More shrieking insanity from Atlas Sags:

while planning to erect a 15-story mega mosque on Ground Zero

It's moving folks - it's no longer at ground zero its actually ON it now. Wow.

re: #35 Jimmah

you know i'm opposed to them building these mega mosques!they'll drive the mom and pop mosques outta buisness!then we'll only be left with the big box mosques...
/(do i?)

re: #22 EmmmieG

It goes to the blood libel against Jews - that despite laws of kashruth (specifically detailing the slaughtering of meat and necessity of soaking and salting to remove blood from the meat), the anti Semites routinely threw blood libels against the Jews (needing blood for wine, matzah, etc.).

re: #29 BigPapa

True, you are correct. I agree those terms are 'Nazi like' and it does raise that evil specter.

I admit that part of me doesn't want to believe in that specter of evil: I'd rather think she's just a hack who happened to end up using the same terms. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt of being a sloppy power drunk racist hack and not an order of evil higher student of Goebbels maintaining a dog whistle campaign to awaken the sleeping fascist hordes.

You can accuse me of rose colored glasses now. If she is the latter then she is even more evil than I thought.

Apart from all the increasingly Mein Kampf style rhetoric she has been spewing, she enthusiastically supports the EDL and other bigoted thugs. Her support of fascists is very conscious.

re: #35 Jimmah

They've (including and especially Geller/Spencer, but also the media reporting on the whole situation) been conflating it being in/on/near for quite some time. It has much greater emotional impact to claim that the super-sized mega triumphal mosque is built on (or in) Ground Zero rather than near it.

re: #37 lawhawk

It goes to the blood libel against Jews - that despite laws of kashruth (specifically detailing the slaughtering of meat and necessity of soaking and salting to remove blood from the meat), the anti Semites routinely threw blood libels against the Jews (needing blood for wine, matzah, etc.).

That's what I meant. Jews don't even eat blood in their meat.

My ancestors ate blood pudding. Ick.

I seem hesitant to broach it, because it still seems kind of vague and amorphous at present, and I'm sure there many many counterexamples that could be found, but let me throw this nascent thesis out there anyway...

Geller seems to be at the pivot point of a movement to triangulate historical virulent racism (aka. neo-Nazis) and aim it away from Jews and towards Muslims instead. Here we've got a Jew standing shoulder to shoulder with seig-heiling swastika-tattoo'd Nazis in common cause against a completely different target. And as long as she keeps the volume turned up to 11, they don't seem to mind so much. In one sense, I wouldn't trust those guys as far as I could throw them, but in another sense, the fact that at least some of them seem to be willing to accept this shift in allegiances may say something positive about Jewish acceptance in the West. Being Jewish isn't nearly the big deal it was in past generations, and hardly as alien; nor are Jews primarily relegated to a limited set of occupations in modern society. Now the semitic target who don't assimilate enough to please them and who are "all out to git us" are the Arabs.

re: #35 Jimmah

More shrieking insanity from Atlas Sags:

It's moving folks - it's no longer at ground zero its actually ON it now. Wow.

Lying comes easy to thugs. And that's what Geller, Spencer, SIOA, SIAD, and so on are: thugs. Here's the latest slime she's bringing over from Denmark:

Anders Gravers Pedersen - Stop Islamiseringen af Danmark

And an excerpt of his latest lunacy:

The biggest totalitarian project in this -- in the group here -- is the European Union. The European Union acts secretly, with the European people being deceived about its development. Democracy is being deliberately removed, and the latest example being the Lisbon Treaty. However the plan goes much further with an ultimate goal of being a European-Arabian super-state, incorporating Muslim countries of North Africa and the Middle East in the European Union (EU). This is already initiated with the signing of the Barcelona treaty in '95 by the EU and nine North African states, and it became effective the first of January, 2010 -- this year. It is also known as the Euro-Mediterranean co-operation. In return for some European control of oil resources, Muslim countries will have unfettered access to technology and movement of people into Europe. The price Europeans will have to pay is the introduction of Sharia law and removal of democracy.

Believe me America is not far behind, and we think you are overtaking us. Violent, economic, cultural and stealth Jihad is the knife slicing the salami of freedom. The salami of freedom is still being sliced. It is time for us to snatch the slicing-knife of jihad, stop mosque building, stop Sharia law and stop Sharia finance.

re: #39 lawhawk

The media helped enable alot of this non-sense by calling it the ground zero mosque.a misleading term to say the least.(although i beleive many of the news outlets have corrected themselves,the early press releases are the ones that stick)

re: #25 beekiller

Bary's Attorney Sues Pamela Geller for $10 Million

haha

Check this out.

re: #41 elbruce

Are you saying that's what she's trying to do, or that that would actually be a successful strategy?

There's no way that antisemitism can be ever actually channeled away from Jews. White supremacists and the like will never, ever, ever actually respect Jews.

re: #41 elbruce

never underestimate anti-semitism.many times it lurks beneath the surface.

re: #21 BigPapa

Though I did pun about 'socialist vampires,' a common 30's meme was Jews as vampires. While I don't think Geller is actively studying and recasting a new (old) meme, the thought is chilling.

I really don't think she's that smart, she's just a power drunk hack with a keyboard that cannot hold stop typing crazy shit.

The anti-Muslim crowd isn't inventing anything. All their crap is recycled classic anti-Semitic material.

re: #44 reine.de.tout

Holy Shit!

re: #16 Obdicut

Oh, fangs for getting a pun thread started. I don't want us to get into a position where wolfing down all puns, no matter how bad, is seen as something to brag to mummy about. I don't suppose there's a ghost of a chance you'll ask for your comment to be put in an early grave so that we don't have to deal with phantom of a pun thread. I don't want to be a harpy, I just know this will be a siren call.

Ow! Owowowowowowow! I'll talk! Just no more puns!

re: #44 reine.de.tout

married pammy,
auto dealership monkeyshines,
dude makes some poor decisions

re: #45 Obdicut

Are you saying that's what she's trying to do, or that that would actually be a successful strategy?

There's no way that antisemitism can be ever actually channeled away from Jews. White supremacists and the like will never, ever, ever actually respect Jews.

It seems to be what she's trying to do. I doubt if it would be successful.

re: #41 elbruce

Geller seems to be at the pivot point of a movement to triangulate historical virulent racism (aka. neo-Nazis) and aim it away from Jews and towards Muslims instead.

There is not a cell in her body that is interested in protecting anything but her bank account. Right now her bank account is filled by Muslim-haters. She's gotta keep feeding them, even when they start nibbling on her toes.

re: #51 elbruce

I really don't think it's anything like that altruistic. I think vanity and greed are more likely culprits.

re: #42 Gus 802

The salami of freedom? Oy. That's a metaphor Im going to work hard at getting out of my mind.

re: #54 Romantic Heretic

The salami of freedom? Oy. That's a metaphor Im going to work hard at getting out of my mind.

Yeah. Pretty weird huh? Maybe it's part of an old saying in Denmark. Regardless it kind of has a Euro-fascist ring to it. "Ze salami of freedom is being threatened by ze outsiders!!11ty."

the bratwurst of tyranny!

re: #42 Gus 802

Violent, economic, cultural and stealth Jihad is the knife slicing the salami of freedom. The salami of freedom is still being sliced.

When I stop laughing at that, I may have to cross-stitch it on a toilet paper holder. That is freaking hilarious.

re: #50 Boondock St. Bender

married pammy,
auto dealership monkeyshines,
dude makes some poor decisions

So does she.
Like attracts like?

When I read about Pammy and the rest of her crowd, and their followers, I have to keep repeating this phrase like a mantra.

To be angered by evil is to partake of it, stupid. - Phrases of Import and Salvation, Chapter IX, The Book of Universal Truths and Other Humorous Anecdotes

re: #58 reine.de.tout

So does she.
Like attracts like?

He died soon after all of that took place. Heart attack I believe.

re: #58 reine.de.tout

apparently,...
silent partner in the business...someone may have to stop concentrating on their lil hate fest and start worrying about frozen assets.

re: #56 Boondock St. Bender

the bratwurst of tyranny!

The Vienna sausage of discontent!

re: #60 Gus 802

He died soon after all of that took place. Heart attack I believe.

She posted here that he drank like a fish, and I thought she said he drank himself to death, but of course the paid death notice did say "heart attack". I believe she would know "drunk to death" when she saw it.

re: #62 Gus 802

The Vienna sausage of discontent!

The mortadella of Capitalism!

re: #60 Gus 802

oh shit that story is three years old...

re: #64 Romantic Heretic

The mortadella of Capitalism!

The Kielbasa of destiny!

re: #66 Gus 802

The Kielbasa of destiny!

The pepperoni of our sacred Heritage!

the bologna of happiness!

the govt. cheese of entitlement!

Gawd that woman is vile.

re: #70 CuriousLurker

Gawd that woman is vile.

She's the Hotdog of Hate.

The bratwust of buffonery?

re: #70 CuriousLurker

Gawd that woman is vile.

did you mean to say
"Gawd that woman is veal sausage."

the headcheese of hyperbole!

re: #71 wrenchwench

re: #73 spikester

LOL

The Feta of philosophy.

The fetid feta of fear-mongering.

the "boo-dan" of disappointment

re: #53 Obdicut

I really don't think it's anything like that altruistic. I think vanity and greed are more likely culprits.

I wouldn't call that altruism. And I was more making an observation regarding a potential cultural shift than any claim of intent on her part.

The raclette of racism.

Seems apt, since raclette is derived racler "to scrape."

re: #44 reine.de.tout

Check this out.

Wow. Stranger than fiction.

I see some of the blogs on the right are turning against General Petraeus over his comments on the Koran burning. Not only do they support the burning, one suggested using it as toilet paper. The few that spoke up about the real danger to out troops were shouted down by the bloggers that suggested bombing mecca for example.
I've seen a trend by the hard right to go Rambo while safe behind their keyboards no matter the consequences for our service people.

View from inside Pamela Geller's brain of the ground zero site with freedom tower and completed megamosque :

Image: freedomtowermegamosque.jpg

A Jimmah-Ice production

re: #83 Jimmah

View from inside Pamela Geller's brain of the ground zero site with freedom tower and completed megamosque :

Image: freedomtowermegamosque.jpg

A Jimmah-Ice production

Image: 911mosque.jpg

Fiiire heeemmm!