trolls are everywhere

Wow. I just this second got one of those mass emails from Markos Moulitsas asking for money to help elect Conway. He's really branching out.
Glad I don't have to vote in KY.

ugh. the comments over there is what turns me off about daily kos.

Like a bunch of kindergartners.

I used to read that site everyday.

re: #3 bluecheese
I've never actually posted a comment... by the time I've re-written it a few times, I've seen enough to lose interest.
Too bad about that book of his.//

re: #2 tradewind

What an amazing coincidence...you received that email just at the exact moment Charles posts about KOS outing a tea-bagger troll.

I bet the Rand guy doesn't feel at all bad about this. Nor do the rest of the people who do shit like this.

People make up weird excuses for themselves based on the fact that it's the internet.

I don't know why the Paulians bother. He's way ahead... all they can do is screw themselves out of a win.
Then again, there's his dad. Poor SOB.

It's the internet :)

Surprise, surprise, an astroturfer...can't say that I agree with Kos much, but on this, I do. A shady, shifty liar in the employ of a political campaign misrepresenting themselves and their politics needed to be given the boot...it would have been better blog drama had they played with them more before giving them the stick.

Perhaps he's a closet progressive who just got outed?

Nah. I didn't really think so.

re: #6 Obdicut

I bet the Rand guy doesn't feel at all bad about this. Nor do the rest of the people who do shit like this.

People make up weird excuses for themselves based on the fact that it's the internet.

this happens all the time. It don't matter how scummy the candidate is, or how good they are, people do crap like this. They pretend that they are making a difference.

Ayn Rand the sock puppet master.

Heck I give my stupid opinions on line for free all the time. Who know it was a paying gig?

Lying and posing as someone else is just for the good of the cause.

/

I agree with the decision to out the troll. He was working for a senate candidate and fair game for exposure. There should be zero tolerance for this type of trolling.

re: #3 bluecheese

ugh. the comments over there is what turns me off about daily kos.

Like a bunch of kindergartners.

I used to read that site everyday.

what i like though, is that you have to click the comments to read them. most you just scroll down enough and it automatically shows the comments, which usually the first comment is a troll (troll strategy tip #1: strike as quickly as possible)

re: #5 reginald perrin
Certainly did.
Along with, I am sure, a few hundred thousand others, or how many people are registered at DK.

Dear Daily Kos community member,

Conventional wisdom is that Democrats are doomed in the 2010 elections. And yes, by all indications, things look bleak.

So how do we react? I suppose we could surrender to our new tea party overlords. If we show enough deference, maybe they'll take mercy, and allow us to keep a constitutional amendment or two.

But that's not how we roll at Daily Kos. Instead, we're going on the attack.

We're going to make Republicans defend their Senate seat in Kentucky, where Democratic Attorney General Jack Conway is pushing Civil Rights Act opponent Rand Paul to the limit. Can you contribute $10 to Jack Conway, and make the tea party play some defense this fall?

There is perhaps no clearer contrast anywhere in the country -- between a Democrat who believes government can make people's lives better, and a Republican who hasn't met a government program he doesn't hate.

As Attorney General, Jack Conway has proven he can win statewide. He supports Elizabeth Warren to head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, and wants to change Senate rules to make a filibuster a real filibuster.

Today, Conway is holding a moneybomb. Let's helping out by finding 500 people to donate $10 to his campaign, and beat tea party favorite Rand Paul.

Join the fight -- contribute $10 to Jack Conway now.

Every dollar we force Republicans to spend playing defense is a dollar they won't spend trying to take over Congress. Every tea party candidate we defeat is a blow to the narrative that the far right is on the rise.

If Conway can win this race in Kentucky, in a tough year for Democrats, it will send a message that voters want government that works for them, rather than no government at all. You can help send that message with your $10 contribution to Jack Conway today.

Keep fighting,
Markos Moulitsas
Founder, Daily Kos

If they lie and cheat to get into office, what makes anyone think they'll stop once they get there?

re: #17 tradewind

Certainly did.
Along with, I am sure, a few hundred thousand others, or how many people are registered at DK.

Why couldn't this Rand guy simply state his position and debate his points out in the open on KOS?

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

If they lie and cheat to get into office, what makes anyone think they'll stop once they get there?

hope?

re: #16 deranged cat

what i like though, is that you have to click the comments to read them. most you just scroll down enough and it automatically shows the comments, which usually the first comment is a troll (troll strategy tip #1: strike as quickly as possible)

I still like how the comments work over there, better than here.

I think it's more organized... the way folks can have sub conversations... that you can skip if you like.

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

If they lie and cheat to get into office, what makes anyone think they'll stop once they get there?

Because it's all for the "greater good".

/yeah, even I don't believe that.

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

If they lie and cheat to get into office, what makes anyone think they'll stop once they get there?

Are you talking about anyone in particular, or politicians in general?

re: #15 Reginald Perrin
I agree.
Nothing lower than going onto another web site pretending to be someone you're not.

re: #19 Walter L. Newton
There's no accounting for Teh Stupid.

The GOP in Arizona is hiring homeless people to run as "Green party" candidates.

Mr. Pearcy and other drifters and homeless people were recruited onto the Green Party ballot by a Republican political operative who freely admits that their candidacies may siphon some support from the Democrats. Arizona’s Democratic Party has filed a formal complaint with local, state and federal prosecutors in an effort to have the candidates removed from the ballot, and the Green Party has urged its supporters to steer clear of the rogue candidates.

How in the hell is this legal? This looks like actual fraud.

Gathered around was a motley crew of people who were down on their luck, including a one-armed pregnant woman named Roxie whom Mr. May befriended sometime back and who introduced him to the rest.

The Democratic Party is fuming over Mr. May’s tactics and those of at least two other Republicans who helped recruit candidates to the Green Party, which does not have the resources to put candidates on ballots around the state and thus creates the opportunity for write-in contenders like the Mill Rats to easily win primaries and get their names on the ballot for November. Complaints about spurious candidates have cropped up often before, though never involving an entire roster of candidates drawn from a group of street people.

“It’s unbelievable. It’s not right. It’s deceitful,” said Jackie Thrasher, a former Democratic legislator in northwest Phoenix who lost re-election in 2008 after a Green Party candidate with possible links to the Republicans joined the race. “If these candidates were interested in the democratic process, they should connect with the party they are interested in. What’s happening here just doesn’t wash. It doesn’t pass the smell test.”

re: #23 Walter L. Newton

Are you talking about anyone in particular, or politicians in general?

Both, with this as a specific example.

re: #19 Walter L. Newton

Why couldn't this Rand guy simply state his position and debate his points out in the open on KOS?

heh. IIRC, Obama did that, back during the Roberts hearings.

Got flamed for it pretty good too.

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Just think. We could be moaning about President Edwards right now.

re: #21 bluecheese

I still like how the comments work over there, better than here.

I think it's more organized... the way folks can have sub conversations... that you can skip if you like.

Don't go messin' with our comment system, now.
/

I find it quite easy to scroll past whatever comments I don't want to read, here.
And alt+F brings me a find box, so I can "find" my nic to see if anyone has responded to me.

re: #29 tradewind

But his hair would be PERFECT!!!
/

re: #17 tradewind

That doesn't prove you received it "this moment" like you claimed. For all we know that letter could be days old or weeks old. You may have been holding that card waiting to play it.

It wouldn't be too difficult to learn when Kos did in fact send that email.
That's how things work here, one can't just make things up and expect everyone takes your word for it.

re: #21 bluecheese

I still like how the comments work over there, better than here.

I think it's more organized... the way folks can have sub conversations... that you can skip if you like.

Heretic.

re: #26 celticdragon

and to think the republicans scream that it's the dems comitting voter fraud and in general playing dirty tricks. Me thinks they doth protest too much.

re: #31 reloadingisnotahobby
Yeah, there's that.
What would be left of it.

re: #32 Reginald Perrin

I got the same money bomb email today. They were doing a moneybomb for the guy starting today and roasted a troll to celebrate i guess.

re: #32 Reginald Perrin

That doesn't prove you received it "this moment" like you claimed. For all we know that letter could be days old or weeks old. You may have been holding that card waiting to play it.

It wouldn't be too difficult to learn when Kos did in fact send that email.
That's how things work here, one can't just make things up and expect everyone takes your word for it.

I got it today at 1:42 Eastern.

re: #30 reine.de.tout

lol. never fear. Charles aint gonna change anything.

he'd get flamed sooo bad if he changed that... even if people liked it better a year later.

heh

Rand v. Kosre: #29 tradewind

Just think. We could be moaning about President Edwards right now.

Interesting choice of words. /

re: #33 wrenchwench

Heretic.

I can honestly say I've never been there!
But do have some fresh feathers and warm tar!!

re: #34 Dreggas
Republicans have some nerve, using live people for their shenanagans. Democrats merely wake the dead... at least in my neck of the woods.

re: #28 bluecheese

heh. IIRC, Obama did that, back during the Roberts hearings.

Got flamed for it pretty good too.

What are you talking about? I was talking about this Rand staff worker, and why didn't he simply contribute to the KOS threads in full disclosure... I wasn't talking about Obama... are you telling me Obama left comments on a blog?

re: #30 reine.de.tout

I find it quite easy to scroll past whatever comments I don't want to read, here.

Of course you never scroll past me. Do ya? Huh?

re: #37 JasonA

Thanks

re: #32 Reginald Perrin
Lol@ the anklenipper.
Want the time stamp?

re: #21 bluecheese

I still like how the comments work over there, better than here.

I think it's more organized... the way folks can have sub conversations... that you can skip if you like.

I find it confusing. Maybe I'm just accustomed to this system but I really like this here at LGF better-Like the shades of gray and font-clearer to my eye. I used to lurk over there but the comments just put me off. I think I'm ahead on every comment I made there, it's a far harsher place to disagree. IMO

re: #34 Dreggas

and to think the republicans scream that it's the dems comitting voter fraud and in general playing dirty tricks. Me thinks they doth protest too much.

Routinely committing an unethical or illegal activity which you have made a career of accusing the other side is due to a malady called Ballsheimers. There is no known cure.

[Link: www.urbandictionary.com...]

re: #42 Walter L. Newton

he posted a diary there, about his vote on justice Roberts.

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

re: #42 Walter L. Newton

What are you talking about? I was talking about this Rand staff worker, and why didn't he simply contribute to the KOS threads in full disclosure... I wasn't talking about Obama... are you telling me Obama left comments on a blog?

sigh

You know damn well why this staff worker didn't act in the manner you're suggesting.

re: #39 DaddyG
Brain bleach.
Moaning as in ' bitching and '.

re: #41 tradewind

Republicans have some nerve, using live people for their shenanagans. Democrats merely wake the dead... at least in my neck of the woods.

Democratic GOTV:

re: #32 Reginald Perrin

That doesn't prove you received it "this moment" like you claimed. For all we know that letter could be days old or weeks old. You may have been holding that card waiting to play it.

It wouldn't be too difficult to learn when Kos did in fact send that email.
That's how things work here, one can't just make things up and expect everyone takes your word for it.

What the fuck? Why don't you just come out and accuse Tradewind of being the Rand operative. Jerk.

There are situations in which it's completely appropriate to out someone posting anonymously on the Internet. This is definitely one of them.

Another situation would be when anonymous people are posting threats or stealing intellectual property, and using their anonymity to avoid responsibility.

tradewind is a Rand operative? holy shit

re: #49 JasonA

sigh

You know damn well why this staff worker didn't act in the manner you're suggesting.

I don't know nothing, I was simply suggesting something. I was projecting how I would have handled it. I would never hide behind some screen "character" or and avatar or made up personality. So, what the fuck are you sitting on this afternoon?

re: #24 tradewind

I use my same nic here and at several online newspapers plus Kos. And some blogging places I no longer even have bookmarked since the crazy plague swept through.

re: #46 Rightwingconspirator
LGF without a doubt is one of, if not the, cleanest and most professional-looking, user-friendly websites evah.
Disclaimer: From my experience : there are an awful lot of them ( as in most) I've never seen.
And won't.
Never fails to amaze me how people juggle multiple message boards with ease... just keeping up here is a stretch.

re: #54 cliffster
Sheeyit, busted.//

re: #53 Charles

There are situations in which it's completely appropriate to out someone posting anonymously on the Internet. This is definitely one of them.

Another situation would be when anonymous people are posting threats or stealing intellectual property, and using their anonymity to avoid responsibility.

I agree... and that's why I was suggesting that I would rather be honest about my position to start with. I'm not much for the anonymous screen character idea anyway.

re: #45 tradewind

Got it already from JasonA

It was a few hours before the thread, Someone was trying to be clever while concern trolling this thread. You have an obvious obsession with the Kos people and your hate towards them is obvious.

Disclaimer: I have posted at KOS or read it on a regular basis.

re: #55 Walter L. Newton

I don't know nothing, I was simply suggesting something. I was projecting how I would have handled it. I would never hide behind some screen "character" or and avatar or made up personality. So, what the fuck are you sitting on this afternoon?

Oh drop the games. You know Kos is a Progressive site. They make it very clear that it's not a place for the discussion of Conservative ideas. At least give them credit for being up front about it.

And with that I have to go.

re: #59 Walter L. Newton

You are very often dishonest about your position, though.

re: #52 Walter L. Newton
Don't mind him... Reggie holds all his faves to a higher standard.//

re: #32 Reginald Perrin

That doesn't prove you received it "this moment" like you claimed. For all we know that letter could be days old or weeks old. You may have been holding that card waiting to play it.

It wouldn't be too difficult to learn when Kos did in fact send that email.
That's how things work here, one can't just make things up and expect everyone takes your word for it.

Just FYI I got that email at 1:35pm PDST. I get them lately.

re: #63 tradewind

Don't mind him... Reggie holds all his faves to a higher standard.//

I will mind him if I feel like it.

re: #60 Reginald Perrin
You'll have to take that up with my server, because I haven't had it an hour. Do that, because this is Very Important To the Integrity of Teh Thread.
Let go of that bone, pup, you've gnawed it clean. Someone will toss you another one soon.

I can pretend I like Rand Paul online.
Is it a well paying gig?

and I like the comment section just as it is.

re: #66 tradewind

I believe you got that email today. It makes sense, since they just busted the troll.

I don't get why you think that means he's 'branching out'.

Can you explain?

re: #52 Walter L. Newton

I wasn't, Walter, calm down. I called her a concern troll because that is the role she has reduced herself to playing. I never accused her of working with anyone. You made that jump in logic, not me. She has earned a dubious reputation for making statements without backing them up. If you ask her more than once for proof, she calls you a stalker. Is that playing fair?
I think she is capable of better than that, if she will get over her attitude.

re: #65 Walter L. Newton
Oh... have to go, but I meant to tell you Walter... check out Rubicon on AMC. I know you don't really watch any television, but you did like Lost. ( just a little)//
This is some great conspiracy/CIA stuff. Dark, makes you scrunch up your brain cells to follow at first, you'd like it.

Rand Paul

Ron/Rand Paul supporters being obsessive? Good heavens, how could that be the case? What are you going to tell me next, that the majority of them take Alex Jones completely seriously?

re: #68 Obdicut
Guess I'm just not that familiar with Kos. He'd never sent an email before, to me, anyway.
Last thing I heard he was wowing them with his best seller.
*cough*

re: #71 elbruce

Hey, I like Beaker.

I suspect this dirty little tactic is a lot more common than most people realize — especially among the followers of Ron and Rand Paul, who have been real trailblazers in obsessive Internet behavior.

This is more true than people even know... it's one of the reasons I am beginning to turn against net anonymity. When you realize that hordes of commenters can be rented, reviews purchased, and all for pennies it's really eye opening. Jonathan Zittrain examined some of this effect in his "Minds for Sale" video, but he never even scraped the surface of what really goes on with comment swarms near election times.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

re: #32 Reginald Perrin

That doesn't prove you received it "this moment" like you claimed. For all we know that letter could be days old or weeks old. You may have been holding that card waiting to play it.

It wouldn't be too difficult to learn when Kos did in fact send that email.
That's how things work here, one can't just make things up and expect everyone takes your word for it.

Tradwind isn't making this up. I got the same email 4 hours ago according to my gmail account.

See: (minus my email address)

from Markos Moulitsas
reply-to campaigns@dailykos.com
to username@gmail.com
date Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:42 AM
subject Go on the attack
mailed-by bounces.salsalabs.net

re: #62 Obdicut
(Or you could look at it another way... that you are often very gullible. Just a thought).
Out.

re: #73 tradewind

That still doesn't explain what you meant by 'branching out'. Are you just not able to explain what you meant?

He's done fundraising emails before.

re: #74 Obdicut

Hey, I like Beaker.

He's one of my favorite Muppet characters... he's everyman, and the whole character comes across so well with just a small selection of simple vocal moods and tones... and a little hyperbolic physical movement.

re: #78 Obdicut

Today's talking point didn't contain the information you seek.

Beaker sings Ode to Joy

re: #71 elbruce

Rand Paul:
Image: Tool_Small.jpg

It's pretty sad when the inmates who want to run the country revert to high school teenage girl tactics. America is in trouble.

Beaker/Gonzo '12!!

Hello, all.

OT: An interesting piece from Slate with great data on income inequality in America.

[Link: www.slate.com...]

OT - I just made 120.00 dollars for a couple hours work for Kaiser... nice work when I get it... so far this has been a better year than the last few years in regards to my very off and on fading programming "career." But this year at least is going to pay about 3/4 of the money needed for a vacation.

This job was neither created nor save by anyone but myself.

re: #84 cliffster

Beaker/Gonzo '12!!

I still think Animal was the best.

Yikes. We're under attack by referrer spammers today. Posting hundreds of links to spam sites with some kind of 'health' related title, all using different proxy IPs.

The idiots who do this are the real bottom of the spammer barrel.

Here's a love note I received earlier:

I'm the one impersonating you on other blogs. I shouldn't have but it is so darn fun.

Just kidding with you! Who would want to be you? Hell you don't even want to be you. If I were you I'd shave my eyebrows with a cheese grater and asphyxiate myself while performing self abuse.

re: #89 Charles

That got really creepy really fast at the end there.

OT: There's some news from the Tea Party front, today. The President of the Montana Big Sky Tea Party was caught tweeting jokes about killing gays, with references to Matthew Shephard.

re: #43 DaddyG

Of course you never scroll past me. Do ya? Huh?

Oops.
No, never!
I just get up and leave . . .

re: #88 Charles

Yikes. We're under attack by referrer spammers today. Posting hundreds of links to spam sites with some kind of 'health' related title, all using different proxy IPs.

The idiots who do this are the real bottom of the spammer barrel.

We use proofpoint software.. Awesome anti-spam system..The bad part..We have a fulltime proofpoint Admin to run it..That's expensive..

re: #89 Charles

Here's a love note I received earlier:

Wow...

re: #89 Charles

Here's a love note I received earlier:

Sick, sad and pathetic is barely skimming the surface of whats wrong with some people.

re: #89 Charles

uuhhh

re: #89 Charles

Here's a love note I received earlier:

There's those sexual fantasies again.

Wingnuttery is a mental illness. Unfortunately, there is no cure.

I'm pretty sure this is 'buzzsawmonkey', by the way.

Driveby-at the link, btw-- it's part of the TOS at kos that you have to disclose such affiliations:

As stated in the Daily Kos FAQ:

Registered users working in paid (or unpaid positions of authority) for political campaigns must disclose their affiliation when it is relevant to the conversation.
Admin Moderation: Warning, suspension, banning and, in an exception to the outing rule, exposure of the paid person's real name.

Anyway, I agree with the banning. Definitely warranted and it's all right up front in the TOS.

Have a good night, folks!

re: #98 Charles

I'm pretty sure this is 'buzzsawmonkey', by the way.

I was just going to suggest that myself. Sick.

re: #89 Charles

Here's a love note I received earlier:

That is one sick and disgusting "human being."

CNN covered interfaith call to oppose Koran burning. Who didn't?

Despite the passions stirred by the Islamic center near ground zero and a plan to burn Korans on Sept. 11, cable news outlets showed limited interest Tuesday afternoon in a press conference where church leaders from a variety of faiths called for a united religious front against perceived examples of Islamophobia.

The Islamic Society of North America organized a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington where leaders from the Christian, Jewish, and Muslim faiths argued against what organizers called “an atmosphere of fear and intolerance” toward Islam.

C-SPAN and CNN carried the interfaith press conference live. Fox News Channel had no coverage, but instead had commentator Lou Dobbs holding forth on President Obama and the “sad isolated state this president has put himself in.” Meanwhile, MSNBC offered talking heads discussing Mr. Obama’s latest plans to spur the economy.

At the interfaith press conference, Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, the former Archibishop of Washington, said the growth of anti-Islamic sentiment was a “powerful moment that calls for a powerful response.” Cardinal McCarrick added, “our message is a message of working together.”

The Rev. Richard Cizik, representing the New Evangelical Partnership for the Common Good, said “shame on you” to those who would burn another religion’s sacred texts. He was referencing plans by the Christian minister of a church in Gainesville, Fla., to burn copies of the Koran. He added, “you bring dishonor to the name of Jesus Christ.”

re: #98 Charles

I'm pretty sure this is 'buzzsawmonkey', by the way.

I guess time doesn't heal all wounds, you would think he would have been over his obsession with you and this blog. That sounds like a sick young man.

re: #103 Reginald Perrin

I guess time doesn't heal all wounds, you would think he would have been over his obsession with you and this blog. That sounds like a sick young man.

My prediction is that it will at least last another 10 years. Could be more. What we're looking at here is a distinct and quantifiable pathology of behavior.

re: #102 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

CNN covered interfaith call to oppose Koran burning. Who didn't?

Good on the Christian leaders who are speaking out against this.

re: #104 Gus 802

My prediction is that it will at least last another 10 years. Could be more. What we're looking at here is a distinct and quantifiable pathology of behavior.

and is in serious need of psychiatric help.

re: #97 Gus 802

There's those sexual fantasies again.

Wingnuttery is a mental illness. Unfortunately, there is no cure.

All the 'smart, Mature, Political astute' banned lizards turned into whiny little crybaby ugly name calling immature spittle spitting nuts for not a day out of Anger...They cry in their cereal every single day about Charles..
You figure after a few years they would get over it and they are no longer welcomed here.. But no..That is the current state of their Mental composure..
Every day they cry about Charles...Daddy issues for sure..
Stalkers: You have been weight, Measured and found wanting

re: #103 Reginald Perrin

I guess time doesn't heal all wounds, you would think he would have been over his obsession with you and this blog. That sounds like a sick young man.

He's not young.

re: #91 mikhailtheplumber

OT: There's some news from the Tea Party front, today. The President of the Montana Big Sky Tea Party was caught tweeting jokes about killing gays, with references to Matthew Shephard.

Jesus Cripes, what's next talking about how black's look nice dangling from a tree?

re: #89 Charles

Here's a love note I received earlier:

Such a juvenile, singular wit right there...I bet they really thought they had you with that zinger.

re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist

Good on the Christian leaders who are speaking out against this.

Kiran Chetry on CNN lost it this morning during the interview of Terry Jones. Basically she broke down into a "What the hell are you thinking?" moment on air. Idiots like Jones need to be called out in public.

re: #106 Varek Raith

and is in serious need of psychiatric help.

He can't get help until he lets himself out of the closet. I don't know what closet he's in, but he is so repressed he's turned into a little ball of bitter hate.

My amateur armchair analysis.

re: #108 Charles

He's not young.

Not really a "man" either. Real men don't write trash like that.

re: #106 Varek Raith

and is in serious need of psychiatric help.

True. But people of this political stripe (outside of mental health issues alone) traditionally do not seek psychiatric help. That might helps if they seeks therapy alongside substance abuse programs.

re: #113 blueraven

Not really a "man" either. Real men don't write trash like that.

Yep. Like I mentioned yesterday. It's a common misconception to assume that the stalkers are young. A lot of them are over 40 with many into their 60s. I'm wondering if it's reflection of the times or that the idea that older people are mature and retain a level of class is a myth. So yes. It's not uncommon for a 60 something year old stalker to sound like he's still in puberty.

re: #111 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Kiran Chetry on CNN lost it this morning during the interview of Terry Jones. Basically she broke down into a "What the hell are you thinking?" moment on air. Idiots like Jones need to be called out in public.

Or how a flaming cross nicely illuminates a garden, if they're feeling moderate.

re: #115 Gus 802

the idea that older people are mature and retain a level of class is a myth

This one, I think.

I replied to the wrong comment!

Damn!

I'm just perplexed at the depth of the anger of some folks.
It just makes no sense to me to live with such anger in your life.

re: #86 Walter L. Newton

OT - I just made 120.00 dollars for a couple hours work for Kaiser... nice work when I get it... so far this has been a better year than the last few years in regards to my very off and on fading programming "career." But this year at least is going to pay about 3/4 of the money needed for a vacation.

This job was neither created nor save by anyone but myself.

You don't know that. Where did they get the money to pay you? You know it's all intertwined, right?

re: #118 mikhailtheplumber

I replied to the wrong comment!

Damn!

I wondered what the hell you meant by that.

re: #121 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sorry, I thought I had quoted Jamesfirecat.

re: #119 reine.de.tout

I'm just perplexed at the depth of the anger of some folks.
It just makes no sense to me to live with such anger in your life.

Have you been able to reduce the number of smokes, Reine?

re: #110 talon_262

Such a juvenile, singular wit right there...I bet they really thought they had you with that zinger.

If it is mullah buzz, it would make sense as he's obsessed enough to have also sent charles like 100 homophobic hate mails.
This little stunt is a special order of malice though-- not content to spew their crap on any of their multiplying hate sites to the same dozen or so obsessive social rejects, or even to send abusive emails, someone had to go around posting hateful stuff 'as' Charles.

That's a whole other order of fuckwittery imo-- actively seeking to fuck with his reputation and smear him outside of their own little shitholes.
Evil.

re: #123 JasonA

Have you been able to reduce the number of smokes, Reine?

By a few.
I'm working myself up to a committment.
*sigh*
Why is it so hard?

re: #115 Gus 802

Yep. Like I mentioned yesterday. It's a common misconception to assume that the stalkers are young. A lot of them are over 40 with many into their 60s. I'm wondering if it's reflection of the times or that the idea that older people are mature and retain a level of class is a myth. So yes. It's not uncommon for a 60 something year old stalker to sound like he's still in puberty.

heh...just like some of the tea party people I guess. Second childhood or something.

re: #125 reine.de.tout

By a few.
I'm working myself up to a committment.
*sigh*
Why is it so hard?

Because people are making a lot of money off of each pack you buy.

re: #90 Obdicut

That got really creepy really fast at the end there.

Translation: I'm going to hurt myself while hurting myself while hurting myself.

3 is the magic number.

re: #125 reine.de.tout

By a few.
I'm working myself up to a committment.
*sigh*
Why is it so hard?

be strong, Reine.

re: #125 reine.de.tout

Because, for those of us who smoke, it's become such an intertwined part of our day it's a hard habit to break. The addiction is bad, but not nearly as bad as the habit and the fact that smokes are so easily available. The hardest part is detangling the smokes from our daily routine and fighting off the way we've trained ourselves to deal with things.

re: #120 JasonA

You don't know that. Where did they get the money to pay you? You know it's all intertwined, right?

Yea... I've been working as a contractor for a Kiaser legacy system for years... I do know where the money came from... but that's none of your fucking business... but if it helps you deal with unreality, then you can fantasize all you want... smile :)

re: #124 iceweasel

If it is mullah buzz, it would make sense as he's obsessed enough to have also sent charles like 100 homophobic hate mails.
This little stunt is a special order of malice though-- not content to spew their crap on any of their multiplying hate sites to the same dozen or so obsessive social rejects, or even to send abusive emails, someone had to go around posting hateful stuff 'as' Charles.

That's a whole other order of fuckwittery imo-- actively seeking to fuck with his reputation and smear him outside of their own little shitholes.
Evil.

It's also very cowardly. Many things come to mind of course. Another being that it is an ultimate display of OCD and stalking behavior. Someone is spending all day thinking about Charles and even people here as we well know. Including the nut that monitors this site compiling our usage data.

From someecards.. I wish there was a holiday for people who don't do shit all day.

re: #119 reine.de.tout

I'm just perplexed at the depth of the anger of some folks.
It just makes no sense to me to live with such anger in your life.

The scary thing about the stalkers is that they feed off each others hate and anger. I couldn't imagine blogging at a place where there is nothing but anger and hate, 24/7.

re: #128 Jeff In Ohio

Translation: I'm going to hurt myself while hurting myself while hurting myself.

3 is the magic number.

Remember:

Two wrongs do not make a right.

But three do.

re: #124 iceweasel

If it is mullah buzz, it would make sense as he's obsessed enough to have also sent charles like 100 homophobic hate mails.
This little stunt is a special order of malice though-- not content to spew their crap on any of their multiplying hate sites to the same dozen or so obsessive social rejects, or even to send abusive emails, someone had to go around posting hateful stuff 'as' Charles.

That's a whole other order of fuckwittery imo-- actively seeking to fuck with his reputation and smear him outside of their own little shitholes.
Evil.

It's evolution in action! ///

*spits*

re: #125 reine.de.tout

By a few.
I'm working myself up to a committment.
*sigh*
Why is it so hard?

Didn't I read here that you are doing the e-cig thing as well? Jason's talking about it here got me started 3 weeks ago today and I haven't smoked a cigarette since. Had some mild cravings but no biggie. I am thrilled and amazed. I did order some Marlboro flavored liquid though - I think I'm maybe missing that.

re: #135 garhighway

Remember:

Two wrongs do not make a right.

But three do.

No, three lefts make a right!

re: #138 jamesfirecat

No, three lefts make a right!

What is this? Fucking New Jersey?

re: #139 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

What is this? Fucking New Jersey?

LOL

re: #137 allegro

Didn't I read here that you are doing the e-cig thing as well? Jason's talking about it here got me started 3 weeks ago today and I haven't smoked a cigarette since. Had some mild cravings but no biggie. I am thrilled and amazed. I did order some Marlboro flavored liquid though - I think I'm maybe missing that.

The day somebody invents an e-Cuban Cigar I'm all in..

re: #131 Walter L. Newton

Yea... I've been working as a contractor for a Kiaser legacy system for years... I do know where the money came from... but that's none of your fucking business... but if it helps you deal with unreality, then you can fantasize all you want... smile :)

Looks like that 65% federal COBRA subsidy did some good after all.

re: #141 HoosierHoops

The day somebody invents an e-Cuban Cigar I'm all in..

Actually I've seen a couple of fancy ass cigar flavors, now that ya mention it.

re: #137 allegro

Didn't I read here that you are doing the e-cig thing as well? Jason's talking about it here got me started 3 weeks ago today and I haven't smoked a cigarette since. Had some mild cravings but no biggie. I am thrilled and amazed. I did order some Marlboro flavored liquid though - I think I'm maybe missing that.

I'm vaping this right now. It is some damn fine juice. I highly recommend it. Check their Facebook page Friday. They usually have a 20% off sale, making a 30ml bottle just $20. I really can't recommend it highly enough.

re: #143 allegro

Actually I've seen a couple of fancy ass cigar flavors, now that ya mention it.

I don't think ass cigar is a flavor I would enjoy much.

The Fox News experts:

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re: #145 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

:p~~~

re: #146 cliffster

The Fox News experts:

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The Devil is a pansie.
Trust me.

re: #147 allegro

:p~~~

That looks so dirty.

re: #147 allegro

:p~~~

OK, maybe it depends on whose ass they had in mind.

re: #134 Reginald Perrin

The scary thing about the stalkers is that they feed off each others hate and anger. I couldn't imagine blogging at a place where there is nothing but anger and hate, 24/7.

Some people have such dysfunctional relationships (if any at all in many cases) that they seek the company of toxic people. Just for the company. They in turn become toxic themselves over the course of time. Most though are drawn towards like minded people. In this case, the express hatred of Muslims is just a reflection of their own internally violent behavior.

That it became Muslims at first was merely by accident. 911 was a galvanizing moment for many of these violently prone, and anti-social personalities. You also have to think about what drew many of these people together: a violent act caused by hatred and responded with hatred from these peer groups.

re: #143 allegro

Actually I've seen a couple of fancy ass cigar flavors, now that ya mention it.

Really? That's cool.. Just like the Captain of the Alabama said in Crimson Rising..Some Cigars are more expensive than drugs...

re: #130 Dreggas

Because, for those of us who smoke, it's become such an intertwined part of our day it's a hard habit to break. The addiction is bad, but not nearly as bad as the habit and the fact that smokes are so easily available. The hardest part is detangling the smokes from our daily routine and fighting off the way we've trained ourselves to deal with things.

YES!
I find I have a LOT of extra time on my hands if I'm not taking a minute or two here and there to have a cigarette. It's amazing.

captdiggs is out of here. The asshole goes to other sites and disses me, then expects to just carry on at LGF. Nope.

I put up with a lot of crap from him, but I'm finished now.

re: #142 goddamnedfrank

Looks like that 65% federal COBRA subsidy did some good after all.

Don't make a fool of yourself... you don't even know what my project is, or what kind of data I am dealing with... it has nothing to do with COBRA.

re: #152 HoosierHoops

Really? That's cool.. Just like the Captain of the Alabama said in Crimson Rising..Some Cigars are more expensive than drugs...

I sure can believe that. My late husband loved his cigars and holy moly, a CHEAP one was about $20.

re: #154 Charles

captdiggs is out of here. The asshole goes to other sites and disses me, then expects to just carry on at LGF. Nope.

I put up with a lot of crap from him, but I'm finished now.

Good news.

re: #155 Walter L. Newton

Don't make a fool of yourself... you don't even know what my project is, or what kind of data I am dealing with... it has nothing to do with COBRA.

Whoa, you're in GI JOE???
///

re: #153 reine.de.tout

YES!
I find I have a LOT of extra time on my hands if I'm not taking a minute or two here and there to have a cigarette. It's amazing.

One thing I love about this e-cig is that I'm not constantly looking forward to the next time I can get away to have a smoke break. I can just take a toot or two under the radar and be happy. Even at work. Just hold it in for a few seconds, take a deep breath, and the vapor has all dissipated by the time I exhale.

re: #158 Varek Raith

Whoa, you're in GI JOE???
///

And man up... don't go G.I Janice on me :)

re: #157 Gus 802

Good news.

Now watch -- he'll start screaming that he was banned just for dissenting, even though he was allowed to spread his idiotic right wing talking points here for years.

re: #154 Charles

captdiggs is out of here. The asshole goes to other sites and disses me, then expects to just carry on at LGF. Nope.

I put up with a lot of crap from him, but I'm finished now.

Would it be wrong if I post a clip from a certain Queen's song?

re: #158 Varek Raith

Whoa, you're in GI JOE???
///

Did I mention how many problems I have with that movie?

re: #163 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Did I mention how many problems I have with that movie?

I haven't gathered the will to see it yet.

re: #157 Gus 802

Good news.

I'm convinced that most of these people basically *want* to get banned at a certain point and essentially force Charles to do so-- then they can whine for years about how they were banned, and lie about the reasons.

"One day I just couldn't log in any more. Wha happened?"

Douchebagua and others all do the same thing, singing their sad little songs in chorus.

re: #159 JasonA

One thing I love about this e-cig is that I'm not constantly looking forward to the next time I can get away to have a smoke break. I can just take a toot or two under the radar and be happy. Even at work. Just hold it in for a few seconds, take a deep breath, and the vapor has all dissipated by the time I exhale.

I think it's working for me cuz it's addressing that "toy" thing. I'm sitting here now holding it in my teeth and when I'm not typing I can hold it and play with it. I got over trying to light it after a couple of days. LOL

re: #153 reine.de.tout

I have some unpleasant news, the stalkers outed your full name and location on their blog last week. There is some good news, the post was eventually removed.
Last week SFZ received a thinly veiled death threat.
The stalkers are getting bolder.

re: #137 allegro

Didn't I read here that you are doing the e-cig thing as well? Jason's talking about it here got me started 3 weeks ago today and I haven't smoked a cigarette since. Had some mild cravings but no biggie. I am thrilled and amazed. I did order some Marlboro flavored liquid though - I think I'm maybe missing that.

Yes, I got one, AND I did get the m/boro flavored liquid - it does make a difference!

re: #154 Charles

now he can have a good whine complaining how you threw him out for no good reason...daddy is so mean!

re: #166 allegro

I think it's working for me cuz it's addressing that "toy" thing. I'm sitting here now holding it in my teeth and when I'm not typing I can hold it and play with it. I got over trying to light it after a couple of days. LOL

For the first two weeks I subconsciously missed other parts of the habit, like the lighting up and the ashing. That's pretty much gone now. This is probably the best thing I've ever bought.

re: #161 Charles

Now watch -- he'll start screaming that he was banned just for dissenting, even though he was allowed to spread his idiotic right wing talking points here for years.

It'll be like that for the next 10 years with him. He'll be thinking about you and LGF daily and spending hours engaging in toxic rhetoric. So off they go to the stalker sites and end up saying nothing otherwise. If you notice, there's absolutely zero content in the contents of the comments at these sites. It's purely lowbrow rhetoric and the usual obsession with the people here.

re: #164 JasonA

I haven't gathered the will to see it yet.

Online at Netflix.

There is only one redeeming item in the whole movie.

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re: #167 Reginald Perrin

I have some unpleasant news, the stalkers outed your full name and location on their blog last week. There is some good news, the post was eventually removed.
Last week SFZ received a thinly veiled death threat.
The stalkers are getting bolder.

You would not believe the email I got after I posted my 'CJ rides into the sunset' post.

I still get mail over that. Apparently, I'm a traitor to the cause. Seriously.

re: #162 jamesfirecat

Absolutely not. Queen is awesome.

re: #172 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Online at Netflix.

There is only one redeeming item in the whole movie.

Image: sienna-miller-g-i-joe.jpg

I was wondering if there's a way to just see the parts with her in it...

re: #159 JasonA

One thing I love about this e-cig is that I'm not constantly looking forward to the next time I can get away to have a smoke break. I can just take a toot or two under the radar and be happy. Even at work. Just hold it in for a few seconds, take a deep breath, and the vapor has all dissipated by the time I exhale.

You're getting my psyched up!
I need to pick a date, and go with it!
Tomorrow!

re: #165 iceweasel

I'm convinced that most of these people basically *want* to get banned at a certain point and essentially force Charles to do so-- then they can whine for years about how they were banned, and lie about the reasons.

"One day I just couldn't log in any more. Wha happened?"

Douchebagua and others all do the same thing, singing their sad little songs in chorus.

I took a peek just now and noticed that DB is sill obsessed. How long has it been now? A month? It's like they're commenting from a hospital bed or perhaps a sanatorium. At least there they might be getting some help.

re: #168 reine.de.tout

Yes, I got one, AND I did get the m/boro flavored liquid - it does make a difference!

Since I got it, I've been vaping mocha mint. Quite nice. But something still seems missing. Either there's something else addicting in ciggie butts or it's the flavor. The other day I was out doing dog walkies with a neighbor and she was smoking. The scent wafted by and it was Ohhh my... I'm looking forward to get my new flavor.

re: #174 ProLifeLiberal

Absolutely not. Queen is awesome.

Well then in the honor of Charles rooting out someone doing some serious double dealing...

re: #177 Gus 802

I took a peek just now and noticed that DB is sill obsessed. How long has it been now? A month? It's like they're commenting from a hospital bed or perhaps a sanatorium. At least there they might be getting some help.

Mental illness of some sort.

Bagua has been posting comments about his usual objects of hate under multiple nicknames over there. Because one just isn't enough!

Last week I hear Doctor Douchebagua diagnosed Charles and Ludwig as 'malignant narcissists' and 'sociopaths'.
Internets Physician, heal thyself. Heh.

re: #176 reine.de.tout

You're getting my psyched up!
I need to pick a date, and go with it!
Tomorrow!

Getting psyched was a big part of it for me. If you go on youtube and cfheck out reviews that people have put up you'll find there's a community that's very enthusiastic about this... hobby. This is my favorite reviewer.

re: #165 iceweasel

yo.

message sending on youtube failed - but you will have a friend request from a discworld charachter.

W

re: #167 Reginald Perrin

I have some unpleasant news, the stalkers outed your full name and location on their blog last week. There is some good news, the post was eventually removed.
Last week SFZ received a thinly veiled death threat.
The stalkers are getting bolder.

I saw it, thanks, though.

There are only a couple hundred people in BR with that name/first initial.
heheheh.

I've done nothing to any of those folks; the level of occasional anger at me is really odd.
Or, maybe not. I just can't live angry like that.

re: #178 allegro

You're still using the 510, right? I got myself an eGo battery, cone, and charger, and it's made a ton of difference.

re: #183 reine.de.tout

I saw it, thanks, though.

There are only a couple hundred people in BR with that name/first initial.
heheheh.

I've done nothing to any of those folks; the level of occasional anger at me is really odd.

At YOU? At everyone.

re: #173 researchok

You would not believe the email I got after I posted my 'CJ rides into the sunset' post.

I still get mail over that. Apparently, I'm a traitor to the cause. Seriously.

Three years ago, I thought they were mostly harmless. My position has changed drastically since then. One thing you have to understand about the stalkers, quite a few of then were trolling progressive blogs during the 200 elections under the leadership of Eric Odom. They may be a the bottom of the pecking order, but they are still a valuable small piece of the astro-turf spin machine.

re: #185 iceweasel

At YOU? At everyone.

(ducks and covers)

Crap..Now I want an illegally smuggled in Cuban Cigar...Just one puff of that mild sweet smoke...Stop talking about Smoking! *wink*

re: #167 Reginald Perrin

I have some unpleasant news, the stalkers outed your full name and location on their blog last week. There is some good news, the post was eventually removed.
Last week SFZ received a thinly veiled death threat.
The stalkers are getting bolder.

It was really more of a challenge to a duel. Not the sort I would accept, mind you.

re: #185 iceweasel

So far I haven't been targeted...then again I'm not a prolific poster either.

re: #180 iceweasel

Mental illness of some sort.

Bagua has been posting comments about his usual objects of hate under multiple nicknames over there. Because one just isn't enough!

Last week I hear Doctor Douchebagua diagnosed Charles and Ludwig as 'malignant narcissists' and 'sociopaths'.
Internets Physician, heal thyself. Heh.

Hey, consider the source right?

Hell, I'm 220 lbs of death made flesh. I was being taught how to use a shotgun and pistol before I was 10 (I had to be able to hit a man-sized target at 7 yards reliably before my parents would allow me to stay home alone with my younger sister).

At that time I was three foot something, and was expected to kill anyone who broke into the house, or, in the extreme, die protecting my sister.

Killing has been my first priority since I was a child. Blame my parents for that.

LOL

I tried smoking once. I stopped after I rolled around for a bit.

re: #125 reine.de.tout

By a few.
I'm working myself up to a committment.
*sigh*
Why is it so hard?

Nicotine is one of the hardest addictions to kick, I still get occasional twinges after 4 years. Hang in there!

re: #184 JasonA

You're still using the 510, right? I got myself an eGo battery, cone, and charger, and it's made a ton of difference.

I am. I haven't done that much homework on that other stuff. This is working out beautifully for me so far, so I'm holding steady with it other than ordering some more juice. Since I can keep the charger right here, the short battery life isn't really an issue.

re: #151 Gus 802

Some people have such dysfunctional relationships (if any at all in many cases) that they seek the company of toxic people. Just for the company. They in turn become toxic themselves over the course of time. Most though are drawn towards like minded people. In this case, the express hatred of Muslims is just a reflection of their own internally violent behavior.

That it became Muslims at first was merely by accident. 911 was a galvanizing moment for many of these violently prone, and anti-social personalities. You also have to think about what drew many of these people together: a violent act caused by hatred and responded with hatred from these peer groups.

I know of more than one who turned, right after 9-11, to the religion of their youth, which they had previously spurned. And of course it was not Islam, but it became quite anti-Islam.

re: #189 SanFranciscoZionist

from a defender of the ninteenth century no doubt...
saahr...i demand satisfaction...

re: #186 Reginald Perrin

Three years ago, I thought they were mostly harmless. My position has changed drastically since then. One thing you have to understand about the stalkers, quite a few of then were trolling progressive blogs during the 200 elections under the leadership of Eric Odom. They may be a the bottom of the pecking order, but they are still a valuable small piece of the astro-turf spin machine.

I hear that.

I just can't get over the obsessiveness- like I said, I still get ugly emails over that. There really is a take no prisoners attitude.

Borders on psychotic.

re: #196 Boondock St. Bender

from a defender of the ninteenth century no doubt...
saahr...i demand satisfaction...

at noon in the quad - choose your second sahr

re: #191 Gus 802

Hey, consider the source right?

LOL

Mongo no like fake Rambo!

re: #193 wlewisiii

Nicotine is one of the hardest addictions to kick, I still get occasional twinges after 4 years. Hang in there!

I was a three pack a day smoker, nasty, plain generic harsh cigarettes... put them down cold Aug. 2008, haven't touched one since, no twinges. It's easy to do if you say you are going do it.

re: #199 Varek Raith

Mongo no like fake Rambo!

Mongo always angry. In fact. Mongo still angry.

re: #191 Gus 802

and my penis is 1.8 inches...er uh..18 inches long...FEAR ME!!

re: #200 Walter L. Newton

I was a three pack a day smoker, nasty, plain generic harsh cigarettes... put them down cold Aug. 2008, haven't touched one since, no twinges. It's easy to do if you say you are going do it.

Correction... it was easy for me... after smoking since I was 16... 39 years...

re: #183 reine.de.tout

I've done nothing to any of those folks; the level of occasional anger at me is really odd.
Or, maybe not. I just can't live angry like that.

They feel that you have betrayed them by being rationale and getting along with the vast majority of lizards regardless of whether they were conservative or not.

re: #202 Boondock St. Bender

and my penis is 1.8 inches...er uh..18 inches long...FEAR ME!!

Big whoop.
I've been trained in the deadly art of Internet Ego Stroking.

re: #201 Gus 802

Mongo always angry. In fact. Mongo still angry.

Mongo just pawn in game of life...

re: #202 Boondock St. Bender

and my penis is 1.8 inches...er uh..18 inches long...FEAR ME!!

Damn. You'd need pants custom made to contain that bad boy.

re: #205 Varek Raith

Big whoop.
I've been trained in the deadly art of Internet Ego Stroking.

I will keel you with my vocabulary and grammar!

//

re: #205 Varek Raith

Big whoop.
I've been trained in the deadly art of Internet Ego Stroking.

So what are you doing later?

who have been real trailblazers in obsessive Internet behavior.

Yep. Sounds about right. I'd take 4chan over the Paulians any day.

re: #203 Walter L. Newton

Correction... it was easy for me... after smoking since I was 16... 39 years...

Glad you corrected that. I too was a heavy smoker for years. 2 packs a day. I have not smoked in 14 years. But I still want one every time I finish a meal of Chinese food, and I used to work in China!

re: #209 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So what are you doing later?

Just going to admire the awesomeness of my posts.

re: #190 eclectic infidel

So far I haven't been targeted...then again I'm not a prolific poster either.

It's the conservatives they are most bitter at. If you weren't considered a conservative before, they don't feel betrayed by you, and you get ignored. They hate Reine because they feel betrayed by her. Same for Charles, and apparently researchok also. They hate SFZ because a Zionist is supposed to be a conservative, so it's another betrayal. They hate libs in general, but only get personal about the ones they feel threatened by, especially ones who "changed the tone" of LGF.

re: #190 eclectic infidel

So far I haven't been targeted...then again I'm not a prolific poster either.

Meh, it's more or less random really. They're working out some other personal psychodramas by directing their hate at Obama, Charles, muslims, whatever. I think Gus had it nailed above-- dysfunctional toxic people with a load of hate for which 9-11 provided some kind of nebulous direction. If it hadn't been that, it would have been something else.

re: #213 wrenchwench

It's the conservatives they are most bitter at. If you weren't considered a conservative before, they don't feel betrayed by you, and you get ignored. They hate Reine because they feel betrayed by her. Same for Charles, and apparently researchok also. They hate SFZ because a Zionist is supposed to be a conservative, so it's another betrayal. They hate libs in general, but only get personal about the ones they feel threatened by, especially ones who "changed the tone" of LGF.

That's part of it. The want LGF circa 2004 back and are too dumb to create a site of their own that doesn't involve obsessing about LGF circa 2010. They'll even have a cow about some of the lighthearted videos that are posted here, the cookbook and the calender. They're like children from a bad neighborhood causing trouble almost everyday with only themselves as the audience or witness.

re: #212 Varek Raith

Just going to admire the awesomeness of my posts.

stop it! you're killing me! lol

re: #197 researchok

Borders on psychotic.

Give them time and they will cross the border. I've received several direct death threats from the stalkers, maybe you're just not trying hard enough.

re: #155 Walter L. Newton

Don't make a fool of yourself... you don't even know what my project is, or what kind of data I am dealing with... it has nothing to do with COBRA.

The unemployed were able to purchase Kaiser's insurance product with the aid of a federal subsidy, and then Kaiser paid you from their bottom line. Follow the money Walter, or don't and continue to play act the ridiculous objectivist superman.

And to think I used to get asked why I wouldn't join them on an LGF facebook page or on other blogs.

re: #185 iceweasel

At YOU? At everyone.

Well, true that.
It's when they mention me specifically, over something, that I find strange.

Ooo I just saw a really awesome, non-mudslinging Alex Sink commercial (for Gov). Anyone see it?

re: #213 wrenchwench

It's the conservatives they are most bitter at. If you weren't considered a conservative before, they don't feel betrayed by you, and you get ignored. They hate Reine because they feel betrayed by her. Same for Charles, and apparently researchok also. They hate SFZ because a Zionist is supposed to be a conservative, so it's another betrayal. They hate libs in general, but only get personal about the ones they feel threatened by, especially ones who "changed the tone" of LGF.

*nods*

Oh yeah, the lefties here in the Bay Area think that SF Voice for Israel is comprised entirely of right-wing nuts for Israel. Out of our little grassroots group, I think only one is really of the conservative mind-set. The rest of us range between secular leftist - religious liberal. As such, as a group, we're cautious about involving ourselves with more conservative groups with respect to forming coalitions. It's always a tough call.

re: #218 goddamnedfrank

The unemployed were able to purchase Kaiser's insurance product with the aid of a federal subsidy, and then Kaiser paid you from their bottom line. Follow the money Walter, or don't and continue to play act the ridiculous objectivist superman.

Oh come on, is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

re: #215 Gus 802

That's part of it. The want LGF circa 2004 back and are too dumb to create a site of their own that doesn't involve obsessing about LGF circa 2010. They'll even have a cow about some of the lighthearted videos that are posted here, the cookbook and the calender. They're like children from a bad neighborhood causing trouble almost everyday with only themselves as the audience or witness.

They're like Adam and Eve after being tossed from the Garden. Pissed at God, pissed at the Devil, and stuck with each other.

re: #220 reine.de.tout

Well, true that.
It's when they mention me specifically, over something, that I find strange.

OK. REVISION:
The level of anger is totally weird, and strange all the time.
I don't understand why they need to mention anyone specifically.
It makes no sense.
That's what I meant to say.

re: #219 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

you have excellent powers of foresight...

Off to enjoy the joys of heated plumbing in my own domicile. Be seeing you.

re: #213 wrenchwench

It's the conservatives they are most bitter at. If you weren't considered a conservative before, they don't feel betrayed by you, and you get ignored. They hate Reine because they feel betrayed by her. Same for Charles, and apparently researchok also. They hate SFZ because a Zionist is supposed to be a conservative, so it's another betrayal. They hate libs in general, but only get personal about the ones they feel threatened by, especially ones who "changed the tone" of LGF.

Zionism was put into action by a bunch of deranged socialists. Why in God's name would they suspect that we'd be conservatives?

/

re: #165 iceweasel

I'm convinced that most of these people basically *want* to get banned at a certain point and essentially force Charles to do so-- then they can whine for years about how they were banned, and lie about the reasons.

"One day I just couldn't log in any more. Wha happened?"

Douchebagua and others all do the same thing, singing their sad little songs in chorus.

For all of the chest-thumping statements of rugged individualism and rock-ribbed conservatism a lot of the Lizards of the Damned exclaimed here over the years, many of them come off on the Stalker Blogs as whiny psycho bitches, IMO...

re: #226 Boondock St. Bender

you have excellent powers of foresight...

Actually, I'm a distrustful bastard, but it does come in handy. Now I am off.

re: #219 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And to think I used to get asked why I wouldn't join them on an LGF facebook page or on other blogs.

They questioned your commitment the the their cause. They were right.

re: #204 Reginald Perrin

re: #213 wrenchwench

Yep.
That's it, exactly.
Still - completely strange, though.
How can having a different view or a different way of dealing with things be a betrayal?
It makes zero sense.

re: #218 goddamnedfrank

The unemployed were able to purchase Kaiser's insurance product with the aid of a federal subsidy, and then Kaiser paid you from their bottom line. Follow the money Walter, or don't and continue to play act the ridiculous objectivist superman.

Like I say... you don't know shit about my project, yet you still can make claims like this... you must be a mind reader. You can sit there and bullshit all you want about how my project is financed or not financed, but since you don't know diddly about what I am doing (and considering my HIPAA requirements, you won't know more)... make all the unfounded statement you want... doesn't change the facts, the facts that you don't have.

Go for it.

re: #228 SanFranciscoZionist

Zionism was put into action by a bunch of deranged socialists. Why in God's name would they suspect that we'd be conservatives?

/

yes, Kibbutzing, such a Rayndian ideal...

re: #225 reine.de.tout

I hear what you're saying, but I think it's ok for you to specifically say it's weird to target you. Of course, it doesn't make sense to mention anyone specifically, but, there is a very high level of nonsensicality in targeting you.

re: #220 reine.de.tout

Well, true that.
It's when they mention me specifically, over something, that I find strange.

The mentally ill don't act based on what normal people recognise as reasons. I wouldn't worry about looking for a cause for what they do. The cause and reason is rooted within themselves, impervious to outside evidence or reason.

Lots of their acting-out is pretty clearly precipitated by personal crises. We've seen it happen here in real time ourselves-- a wingnutty but not insane poster loses a job, say, and becomes angrier and angrier and eventually goes full on stalker.

Kinda OT but the speaking of smoking. What e-cig do those of you who vape recommend? I had one (a V-cignature) but the draw was inconsistent and while I used it without smoking regular cigs it just couldn't replace the feel. After I get married (in october) I was thinking of giving it a try again so I can get off the analog model but want to get a GOOD e-cig this time.

re: #167 Reginald Perrin

I have some unpleasant news, the stalkers outed your full name and location on their blog last week. There is some good news, the post was eventually removed.
Last week SFZ received a thinly veiled death threat.
The stalkers are getting bolder.

Exactly, they're feeling their oats with the Democrats' perceived weaknesses in the fall elections.

re: #232 reine.de.tout

re: #213 wrenchwench

Yep.
That's it, exactly.
Still - completely strange, though.
How can having a different view or a different way of dealing with things be a betrayal?
It makes zero sense.

Strange, rather scary, people.

re: #238 talon_262

Exactly, they're feeling their oats with the Democrats' perceived weaknesses in the fall elections.

Let them, come 2012 they'll reap the crazy they've sowed...

re: #200 Walter L. Newton

I was a three pack a day smoker, nasty, plain generic harsh cigarettes... put them down cold Aug. 2008, haven't touched one since, no twinges. It's easy to do if you say you are going do it.

Well - no, not for me.
You haven't had to deal with me 3 days into a quit.
I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy having to deal with me in those circumstances.

re: #237 Dreggas

What e-cig do those of you who vape recommend?

By JasonA's recommendation I got the joye 510. Haven't had a cig since, 3 weeks today.

re: #237 Dreggas

Kinda OT but the speaking of smoking. What e-cig do those of you who vape recommend? I had one (a V-cignature) but the draw was inconsistent and while I used it without smoking regular cigs it just couldn't replace the feel. After I get married (in october) I was thinking of giving it a try again so I can get off the analog model but want to get a GOOD e-cig this time.

The Joye eGo is what I'd recommend to beginners now. Different companies sell it under different names, like the Janty eGo or the Tornado, but that's the model I'm basically using right now and I'm in love with it.

re: #228 SanFranciscoZionist

Zionism was put into action by a bunch of deranged socialists. Why in God's name would they suspect that we'd be conservatives?

/

They live in a fantasy world. Much like they see war like a John Wayne movie or Rambo. Nothing is based on real life. Like a Kibbutz which is a combination of socialism and Zionism.

re: #244 Gus 802

They live in a fantasy world. Much like they see war like a John Wayne movie or Rambo. Nothing is based on real life. Like a Kibbutz which is a combination of socialism and Zionism.

You mean...
I'm not a Galactic Overlord???
:(

:P

re: #240 jamesfirecat

There's a trope I'm thinking of, oh yeah here it is!

[Link: tvtropes.org...]

re: #241 reine.de.tout

Well - no, not for me.
You haven't had to deal with me 3 days into a quit.
I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy having to deal with me in those circumstances.

I corrected myself a few comments later... it was easy for me... but I was only smoking for 39 years. It was the same with the booze, I just put it down one day. And that was that.

And I sit in a house that currently has probably (even at my past drinking levels) a two month supply of booze (good booze) and a file cabinet full of new pipes and unopened tobacco... I'm just not tempted...

But... if I ever have a doctor tell me I have some terminal illness... then guess what... I'm living in paradise right now... don't even have to leave the house or spend a penny... I've got a instant party waiting for me.

Love it!!!

re: #244 Gus 802

They live in a fantasy world. Much like they see war like a John Wayne movie or Rambo. Nothing is based on real life. Like a Kibbutz which is a combination of socialism and Zionism.

Way to insult the good Kibbutzim folk. Not cool, man.

re: #245 Varek Raith

You mean...
I'm not a Galactic Overlord???
:(

:P

it's been my experience that if you have to ask if you are a Galactic Overlord...
your not.

re: #248 Nimed

Way to insult the good Kibbutzim folk. Not cool, man.

What are you talking about?

re: #248 Nimed

Way to insult the good Kibbutzim folk. Not cool, man.

He isn't.

re: #246 ProLifeLiberal

There's a trope I'm thinking of, oh yeah here it is!

[Link: tvtropes.org...]

A lizard after my own heart...

re: #249 spikester

it's been my experience that if you have to ask if you are a Galactic Overlord...
your not.

Ah, good point.
A Stormtrooper legion will be at your location in...NOW!

re: #250 Gus 802

Bad joke. Don't make me explain it, it will get worse.