Castro Tells Ahmadinejad: ‘Stop Slandering the Jews’

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Jeffrey Goldberg scored a journalistic coup on a recent visit to Havana — an interview with Castro himself. And Fidel had a surprising message for Iran’s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: Fidel to Ahmadinejad: ‘Stop Slandering the Jews’.

Over the course of this first, five-hour discussion, Castro repeatedly returned to his excoriation of anti-Semitism. He criticized Ahmadinejad for denying the Holocaust and explained why the Iranian government would better serve the cause of peace by acknowledging the “unique” history of anti-Semitism and trying to understand why Israelis fear for their existence.

He began this discussion by describing his own, first encounters with anti-Semitism, as a small boy. “I remember when I was a boy - a long time ago - when I was five or six years old and I lived in the countryside,” he said, “and I remember Good Friday. What was the atmosphere a child breathed? `Be quiet, God is dead.’ God died every year between Thursday and Saturday of Holy Week, and it made a profound impression on everyone. What happened? They would say, `The Jews killed God.’ They blamed the Jews for killing God! Do you realize this?”

He went on, “Well, I didn’t know what a Jew was. I knew of a bird that was a called a ‘Jew,’ and so for me the Jews were those birds.� These birds had big noses. I don’t even know why they were called that. That’s what I remember. This is how ignorant the entire population was.”

He said the Iranian government should understand the consequences of theological anti-Semitism. “This went on for maybe two thousand years,” he said. “I don’t think anyone has been slandered more than the Jews. I would say much more than the Muslims. They have been slandered much more than the Muslims because they are blamed and slandered for everything. No one blames the Muslims for anything.” The Iranian government should understand that the Jews “were expelled from their land, persecuted and mistreated all over the world, as the ones who killed God. In my judgment here’s what happened to them: Reverse selection. What’s reverse selection? Over 2,000 years they were subjected to terrible persecution and then to the pogroms. One might have assumed that they would have disappeared; I think their culture and religion kept them together as a nation.” He continued: “The Jews have lived an existence that is much harder than ours. There is nothing that compares to the Holocaust.” I asked him if he would tell Ahmadinejad what he was telling me. “I am saying this so you can communicate it,” he answered.

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94 comments
1 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 11:41:19am

Just finished reading that article. Sounds like a leopard changing his spots on many fronts.

2 Political Atheist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 11:44:15am

re: #1 Dreggas

Imminent mortality will do that. Especially for a man like Fidel. How many people did he kill in the revolution? Maybe Che’s ghost haunts him.

3 affenkopf  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 11:45:11am

He’s still a bastard.

4 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 11:45:54am

Sounds like a man who knows he’s on his deathbed, trying to make up for past wrongs.

But Castro is the last person that could be accused of being an American tool.

And the religious restrictions got lifted a little while ago, as well.

But will it make any impression on Amhadinnerjacket, or will Cuba just wind up on the enemies list?

5 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 11:48:37am

He also regrets the Missile Crisis;

We returned repeatedly in this first conversation to Castro’s fear that a confrontation between the West and Iran could escalate into a nuclear conflict. “The Iranian capacity to inflict damage is not appreciated,” he said. “Men think they can control themselves but Obama could overreact and a gradual escalation could become a nuclear war.” I asked him if this fear was informed by his own experiences during the 1962 missile crisis, when the Soviet Union and the U.S. nearly went to war other over the presence of nuclear-tipped missiles in Cuba (missiles installed at the invitation, of course, of Fidel Castro). I mentioned to Castro the letter he wrote to Khruschev, the Soviet premier, at the height of the crisis, in which he recommended that the Soviets consider launching a nuclear strike against the U.S. if the Americans attack Cuba. “That would be the time to think about liquidating such a danger forever through a legal right of self-defense,” Castro wrote at the time.

I asked him, “At a certain point it seemed logical for you to recommend that the Soviets bomb the U.S. Does what you recommended still seem logical now?” He answered: “After I’ve seen what I’ve seen, and knowing what I know now, it wasn’t worth it all.”

I was surprised to hear Castro express such doubts about his own behavior in the missile crisis - and I was, I admit, also surprised to hear him express such sympathy for Jews, and for Israel’s right to exist (which he endorsed unequivocally).

6 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 11:48:44am

re: #4 Obdicut

Sounds like a man who knows he’s on his deathbed, trying to make up for past wrongs.

But Castro is the last person that could be accused of being an American tool.

And the religious restrictions got lifted a little while ago, as well.

But will it make any impression on Amhadinnerjacket, or will Cuba just wind up on the enemies list?

Well, that will throw a wrench into Oliver Stone’s life.
/

7 Political Atheist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 11:50:59am

Now I have seen everything.

8 Bob Levin  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 11:52:03am

We need to hear from the Cuban exiles—they also may have some comments worth hearing.

Fidel does sound like he’s aware of his mortality, very aware.

What was that line from Flannery O’Connor’s “A Good Man is Hard to Find”?—‘She’d have been a wonderful woman…if there was someone around to shoot her every moment of her life.’ Or something like that.

9 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 11:53:21am

re: #7 Rightwingconspirator

Now I have seen everything.

Obdi’s right- it is his death confession and mea culpa.

Man wants to get square (with the maker he doesn’t believe in).

10 RadicalModerate  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 11:53:53am

re: #4 Obdicut

Sounds like a man who knows he’s on his deathbed, trying to make up for past wrongs.

But Castro is the last person that could be accused of being an American tool.

And the religious restrictions got lifted a little while ago, as well.

But will it make any impression on Amhadinnerjacket, or will Cuba just wind up on the enemies list?

Religious restrictions in Cuba went away with the fall of communism in the Soviet Union in the early ’90s. Even at the height of communism, Catholicism in Cuba was not persecuted nearly to the same extent as occurred in eastern Europe, organized services were frowned upon, but religious symbols were quite visible during the Castro regime.

11 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 11:53:58am

dictator slap fight!

12 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 11:56:01am

Prior to the Cuban Revolution, the country was home to a small Jewish population (12-15,000), and many who couldn’t directly get into the US first stopped in Cuba so it served as something of a waystation. Nearly all of those Jews in Cuba fled after Castro’s revolution. There is a small Jewish community that is still there to this day, and it dates back to the expulsion of Jews from Spain during the Inquisition.

So if this is a genuine change of heart on his part, it is late in coming, and it doesn’t absolve him of his prior actions, which includes support and training for Palestinian terrorists (who continue using many of those anti-Semitic slurs in their ongoing propaganda against Israel).

13 Political Atheist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 11:56:37am

With a nod to this page by aigle, let me say when that Time mag hit my Jewish owned company I work for I was offended. The graphic of flowers on a Star of David etc. Just awful and way below Times standard. The editor should be fired.

The cover in now Exhibit A in why only fools believe “the Jews run the media”. (BTW I was a bit uncomfortable with the oft used “joos” in this kind of context.)

14 Gus  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 11:58:39am

I would have never expected to hear this from Fidel Castro. Whatever the reason I think he should be congratulated on all points including his introspection of the potential hostilities during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

15 Political Atheist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 11:59:41am

re: #9 researchok

Obdi’s right- it is his death confession and mea culpa.

Man wants to get square (with the maker he doesn’t believe in).

Obdi is almost always right.

16 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:00:30pm

Remember, Farrakhan regretted hating Jews when he thought he was gonna die. But today, he is a douche.

17 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:00:32pm

The Israelis ought to invite him for a State visit.

Seriously. It would send a powerful message in the region.

18 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:02:04pm

let’s annex cuba when castro dies

19 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:02:28pm
A frail and aged Fidel stood to greet us. He was wearing a red shirt, sweatpants, and black New Balance sneakers.

It’s the sneakers. He’s found a new balance.

20 Gus  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:02:32pm

re: #18 SpaceJesus

let’s annex cuba when castro dies

Casinos and luxury apartments!

21 avanti  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:02:56pm

re: #13 Rightwingconspirator

With a nod to this page by aigle, let me say when that Time mag hit my Jewish owned company I work for I was offended. The graphic of flowers on a Star of David etc. Just awful and way below Times standard. The editor should be fired.

The cover in now Exhibit A in why only fools believe “the Jews run the media”. (BTW I was a bit uncomfortable with the oft used “joos” in this kind of context.)

The cover is offensive on several levels, and designed to move product. The actual article did not match the headline.

22 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:03:34pm

re: #14 Gus 802

I would have never expected to hear this from Fidel Castro. Whatever the reason I think he should be congratulated on all points including his introspection of the potential hostilities during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Very true.

In and of itself, his remarks send powerful- and pointed messages across a great swath of the political spectrum.

23 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:04:17pm

re: #20 Gus 802


just no batista this time. that’d be so awesome. too bad the entire right wing in america would oppose it because they are hispanophobic

24 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:04:32pm

re: #20 Gus 802

Casinos and luxury apartments!

That will come- and so will high dollar auctions of those ‘51 Chevys.

25 avanti  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:05:08pm

re: #9 researchok

Obdi’s right- it is his death confession and mea culpa.

Man wants to get square (with the maker he doesn’t believe in).

This is where the LGF lefties are supposed to slam Castro’s comments since we are all anti Israel. (according to a few right wing blogs)

26 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:06:16pm

Would love to stay, but I have to go to my job that I hate. See ya’ll tonight.

27 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:06:33pm

re: #25 avanti

This is where the LGF lefties are supposed to slam Castro’s comments since we are all anti Israel. (according to a few right wing blogs)

Or, get slammed by the hard lefties because LGF is pro Israel.

CJ needs to buy stock in the Maalox company.

28 avanti  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:06:44pm

re: #24 researchok

That will come- and so will high dollar auctions of those ‘51 Chevys.

Lots of Studebaker’s that need parts too.

29 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:07:27pm

i want a classic chevy made entirely out of cigars

30 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:07:46pm

re: #25 avanti

This is where the LGF lefties are supposed to slam Castro’s comments since we are all anti Israel. (according to a few right wing blogs)

It’s really beautiful seeing this following closely on the heels of the Muslim Imams visiting Holocaust sites and renouncing Holocaust denial.

It’s a thin strand of hope, but it’s there.

31 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:08:15pm

Wow.

And fuck “Time” magazine.

32 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:08:31pm

re: #28 avanti

Lots of Studebaker’s that need parts too.

I want the Auto Trader franchise for Cuba.

33 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:09:35pm

re: #29 SpaceJesus

i want a classic chevy made entirely out of cigars

Light up the low rider?

34 Political Atheist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:09:56pm

re: #21 avanti

I understand when a supermarket check stand tabloid does that.*sigh* Time may no longer deserve a much better rep.

35 Cineaste  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:10:24pm

Can we at least finally drop the ridiculous embargo on Cuba? Remind me what it was supposed to accomplish and that is fairing?

As far as I can tell, the spread of communism has either been defeated or - if you believe the wing nuts - we lost and it’s now in tEh wHitE HoWse/

36 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:10:52pm

re: #33 researchok

Light up the low rider?

There’s a shop around the corner with this sign in the window:

“Praise the Lowered”.
37 avanti  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:10:58pm

We joke, but do you have any idea of the economic boom for both countries if we traded with Cuba like we do with the more repressive China ? The above is only possible with a move to moderation by Cuba though.

38 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:11:14pm

re: #34 Rightwingconspirator

I understand when a supermarket check stand tabloid does that.*sigh* Time may no longer deserve a much better rep.

Nest TIME cover:

Boy swallows nickel, doctors pump stomach find 5 Canadian pennies!

39 Jimmah  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:11:32pm

re: #30 Obdicut

It’s really beautiful seeing this following closely on the heels of the Muslim Imams visiting Holocaust sites and renouncing Holocaust denial.

It’s a thin strand of hope, but it’s there.

Today the Muslim world and Fidel Castro, who knows - maybe one day, perhaps even within our own lifetimes, we’ll see Mel Gibson join the party.

40 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:11:41pm

re: #36 wrenchwench

There’s a shop around the corner with this sign in the window:

Line of the day.

41 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:12:15pm

re: #39 Jimmah

Today the Muslim world and Fidel Castro, who knows - maybe one day, perhaps even within our own lifetimes, we’ll see Mel Gibson join the party.

You know, there is such a thing as too much optimism…

42 S'latch  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:13:40pm

Who’s this Castro guy? I think I he’s right on.

43 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:13:42pm

Something pretty extraordinary is going on with Fidel Castro.

Fidel Castro says Cuban model no longer works.

(Reuters) - Fidel Castro said Cuba’s economic model no longer works, a U.S.-based journalist reported on Wednesday following interviews with the former president last week.

Jeffrey Goldberg, a writer for the Atlantic Monthly magazine, wrote in a blog that he asked Castro, 84, if Cuba’s model — Soviet-style communism — was still worth exporting to other countries and he replied, “The Cuban model doesn’t even work for us anymore.”

44 avanti  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:13:58pm

re: #32 researchok

I want the Auto Trader franchise for Cuba.

Ebay Cuba for me. I susspect I actaully had parts go to Cuba though a agent in Canada. I don’t think a water pump for a 55 Studebaker threatens out national security though.

45 Gus  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:14:07pm

re: #41 researchok

You know, there is such a thing as too much optimism…

“Hello, Fidel? This is Mahmoud. You know I’ve been thinking about what you said and you’re right.”

Hangs up phone.

//

46 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:15:22pm

re: #43 Charles

Something pretty extraordinary is going on with Fidel Castro.

Fidel Castro says Cuban model no longer works.

Either Fidel has come full circle or they have some really great weed down there.

47 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:15:26pm

re: #4 Obdicut

Sounds like a man who knows he’s on his deathbed, trying to make up for past wrongs.

But Castro is the last person that could be accused of being an American tool.

And the religious restrictions got lifted a little while ago, as well.

But will it make any impression on Amhadinnerjacket, or will Cuba just wind up on the enemies list?

I don’t think Iran’s leadership gives much of a good goddamn what Castro has to say. The whole brotherhood of international revolution is pretty much dead.

48 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:15:40pm

re: #37 avanti

It would be a start in the right direction, but the Cuban exiles wouldn’t go for it - primarily because Castro expropriated their properties (something China didn’t do). There are lots of folks itching to resume business and reclaim their property rights that were taken by the Cuban government.

There are even more who would love to see capitalism finally dawn on Cuba and bring an influx of US trade. But note too that the embargo was a US-Cuba thing; there wasn’t a similar embargo with Europe, Canada, Mexico, and yet the Cubans remains in pretty dire economic straits.

49 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:16:02pm

re: #45 Gus 802

“Hello, Fidel? This is Mahmoud. You know I’ve been thinking about what you said and you’re right.”

Hangs up phone.

//

LOLOL

50 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:16:29pm

re: #43 Charles

Excuse me while I say this: HOLY HELL!!! That’s one heck of a change.

I’m going to be at a function done by the Muslims at OU later tonight. Should be good.

51 deranged cat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:17:20pm

re: #45 Gus 802

“Hello, Fidel? This is Mahmoud. You know I’ve been thinking about what you said and you’re right.”

Hangs up phone.

//

Iran So Far
[Link: www.hulu.com…]

52 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:17:30pm

re: #43 Charles

The clarity of hindsight and of his own impending mortality appear to be informing his decision making in ways that should have been apparent to anyone in his position even just a few years ago (like after the fall of the Soviet Union and the collapse of other communist countries).

53 avanti  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:17:38pm

re: #43 Charles

Something pretty extraordinary is going on with Fidel Castro.

Fidel Castro says Cuban model no longer works.

Time to fire up the Nixon like dialog with Cuba IMHO, It worked with China, might be worth another try. Even the Fl. Cuban community is more receptive to talking as those opposing it age.

54 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:18:14pm

re: #45 Gus 802

re: #45 Gus 802

“Hello, Fidel? This is Mahmoud. You know I’ve been thinking about what you said and you’re right.”

Hangs up phone.

//

God (if you are a believer) has one serious sense of humor.

55 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:18:19pm

Wonder what Marco Rubio’s take is…

56 Gus  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:18:26pm

re: #52 lawhawk

The clarity of hindsight and of his own impending mortality appear to be informing his decision making in ways that should have been apparent to anyone in his position even just a few years ago (like after the fall of the Soviet Union and the collapse of other communist countries).

He could be setting things up for a change and direction towards greater moderation for his brother?

57 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:18:44pm

If I had a subscription to “Time”, the Catonian cancellation letter they would receive tomorrow would be incendiary enough to destroy a cubicle and singe off the eyebrows of every Dilbert within three floors.

58 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:19:13pm

re: #25 avanti

This is where the LGF lefties are supposed to slam Castro’s comments since we are all anti Israel. (according to a few right wing blogs)

I could care less what Fidel Castro has to say about the Jews. If he has any influence over the Iranians, his trying to get through to them is laudable, but I don’t know if I understand all the nuances of this well enough to get what’s going at all.

59 avanti  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:19:39pm

re: #46 researchok

Either Fidel has come full circle or they have some really great weed down there.

The Cuba citizens that worked with me in GITMO claimed they did, but sadly, they could not bring any on base for evaluation.

60 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:20:01pm

re: #56 Gus 802

Raul is no spring chicken either - and Raul has been pretty much running the show since the rumors of his sickness (and oft noted death - greatly exaggerated) began a few years back. Raul promised greater economic and social freedoms, but they are painfully slow in coming.

61 avanti  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:21:45pm

re: #54 researchok

re: #45 Gus 802

God (if you are a believer) has one serious sense of humor.

Well, there is the aardvark after all.

62 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:22:53pm

re: #51 deranged cat

Iran So Far
[Link: www.hulu.com…]

Terrific!!

63 Gus  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:23:04pm

re: #60 lawhawk

Raul is no spring chicken either - and Raul has been pretty much running the show since the rumors of his sickness (and oft noted death - greatly exaggerated) began a few years back. Raul promised greater economic and social freedoms, but they are painfully slow in coming.

True. Things move rather slowly in Cuba. I think the recent changes in US policy is helping though.

64 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:23:50pm

re: #59 avanti

The Cuba citizens that worked with me in GITMO claimed they did, but sadly, they could not bring any on base for evaluation.

Yankee imperialists deprive so many!
/

65 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:24:06pm

re: #58 SanFranciscoZionist


i think it kind of says to everybody, “hey, look. not everyone in the developing world is a giant racist moron”

66 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:24:33pm

re: #57 Cato the Elder

If I had a subscription to “Time”, the Catonian cancellation letter they would receive tomorrow would be incendiary enough to destroy a cubicle and singe off the eyebrows of every Dilbert within three floors.

Why so subtle?

67 avanti  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:24:33pm

re: #60 lawhawk

Raul is no spring chicken either - and Raul has been pretty much running the show since the rumors of his sickness (and oft noted death - greatly exaggerated) began a few years back. Raul promised greater economic and social freedoms, but they are painfully slow in coming.

“HAVANA (Reuters) – Cuba will soon turn some small-scale manufacturing and retail services into cooperatives as the state retreats from minor businesses in an effort to boost the island’s troubled economy, government and Communist Party sources said.

The moves are the latest reforms by President Raul Castro, who wants to reduce bureaucracy and raise productivity by easing the government’s role without sacrificing the socialist system installed after Cuba’s 1959 revolution.”

68 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:25:27pm

re: #57 Cato the Elder

what did they do

69 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:25:43pm

re: #55 Stanley Sea

Wonder what Marco Rubio’s take is…

Whatever it has to be.

70 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:27:35pm

re: #65 SpaceJesus

i think it kind of says to everybody, “hey, look. not everyone in the developing world is a giant racist moron”

Well, I knew that, but I still sort of favor, say, Ellen Johnson over Castro.

;)

71 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:28:59pm

re: #70 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, I knew that, but I still sort of favor, say, Ellen Johnson over Castro.

;)


but castro has that revolutionary mystique, that developing world pazazz

72 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:29:18pm

re: #70 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, I knew that, but I still sort of favor, say, Ellen Johnson over Castro.

;)

What do you have against reeducation camps??

//

73 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:30:05pm

The kids just had their music lesson, which, glory be, I don’t have to teach.

Nothing like a pack of eleven-year-olds watching Midnight Special and wanting to know if Mick Jagger is gay. They also disapprove of Tina’s wig, and whatever it is that James Brown did to his hair.

74 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:30:25pm

re: #72 researchok

What do you have against reeducation camps??

//

Mostly, the suspicion that I’m the sort that always ends up in them.

75 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:32:24pm

re: #74 SanFranciscoZionist

Mostly, the suspicion that I’m the sort that always ends up in them.

Doesn’t the teachers union cover that?
/

76 TedStriker  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:32:44pm

re: #74 SanFranciscoZionist

Mostly, the suspicion that I’m the sort that always ends up in them.

I know nothing!!!

/Sgt. Schultz

77 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:33:23pm

re: #73 SanFranciscoZionist

The kids just had their music lesson, which, glory be, I don’t have to teach.

Nothing like a pack of eleven-year-olds watching Midnight Special and wanting to know if Mick Jagger is gay. They also disapprove of Tina’s wig, and whatever it is that James Brown did to his hair.

Did they ever bury James Brown- or is he still in a living room of storage unit somewhere?

78 What, me worry?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:35:03pm

re: #8 Bob Levin

We need to hear from the Cuban exiles—they also may have some comments worth hearing.

Fidel does sound like he’s aware of his mortality, very aware.

What was that line from Flannery O’Connor’s “A Good Man is Hard to Find”?—‘She’d have been a wonderful woman…if there was someone around to shoot her every moment of her life.’ Or something like that.

There was a story years ago, a man came here from Cuba (Miami) who was a Cuban Jew. He was so excited to finally be in the states where he could go to synagoguge freely and not be harrassed like he was in Cuba.

Anyway, Cuban Jews are called Jewbins. Well… Jewban, but you say it like Jew-bin.

So this old man decides he’s getting a license plate telling the world he’s a Cuban Jew. He applies for the plate “Jewban” and he’s denied. Why? Because it looks like JEW BAN.

Long story short, he hashed it out with the FL Dept of Motor Vehicles and got his plate.

79 TedStriker  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:35:05pm

re: #73 SanFranciscoZionist

The kids just had their music lesson, which, glory be, I don’t have to teach.

Nothing like a pack of eleven-year-olds watching Midnight Special and wanting to know if Mick Jagger is gay. They also disapprove of Tina’s wig, and whatever it is that James Brown did to his hair.

Ahh, youth…they wouldn’t know good music if if bit them on the ass.

/damn kids…get off mah lawn! ;-P

80 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:36:21pm

re: #79 talon_262

Ahh, youth…they wouldn’t know good music if if bit them on the ass.

/damn kids…get off mah lawn! ;-P

You know my dad??
/

81 What, me worry?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:36:31pm

re: #65 SpaceJesus

i think it kind of says to everybody, “hey, look. not everyone in the developing world is a giant racist moron”

No it doesn’t. Fidel hasn’t changed. Well maybe he has, but I think the lizards pegged it upthread. He’s getting old and getting ready to die. Jews had no freedom in Cuba under Castro’s rule. None.

82 darthstar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:39:01pm

Fidel Castro tried hyperbolic rhetoric and isolationist policy for 50 years, and after a near death experience finally is ready to admit it wasn’t a good idea, and that it doesn’t work very well. Ahmadinejad might do well to listen to him.
So could the GOP for that matter.

83 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:40:44pm

re: #81 marjoriemoon

meh, i honestly don’t have enough historical information to speak on jews who lived in castro’s cuba.

84 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:42:23pm

Castro is trying to reset himself as an elder statesman, but like Arafat, you can’t trust the guy. He’s also trying to have it both ways. He knows that Iran is walking a thin line with its bellicosity, but thinks that it is the US and Israel who need to step back - particularly with Israel eliminating its own nuclear arsenal:

Castro opened our initial meeting by telling me that he read the recent Atlantic article carefully, and that it confirmed his view that Israel and America were moving precipitously and gratuitously toward confrontation with Iran. This interpretation was not surprising, of course: Castro is the grandfather of global anti-Americanism, and he has been a severe critic of Israel. His message to Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, he said, was simple: Israel will only have security if it gives up its nuclear arsenal, and the rest of the world’s nuclear powers will only have security if they, too, give up their weapons.

We’d just have to ignore that Iran has any role in creating the conflict, up to and including its clandestine efforts to build an enrichment capability that exceeds what it would need for a civilian nuclear program and that it incessantly evokes genocidal flourishes in reference to Israel’s existence (as in wiped off the map and using Hamas and Hizbullah as its proxies). We’d also have to note that Israel’s nuclear arsenal (such as its neighbors believe exists) is seen as a counterbalance to Israel’s small military size and deterrence to large scale attack. Eliminating that nuclear arsenal as a deterrent would potentially open Israel up to further aggression down the road.

85 JRCMYP  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:43:58pm

Excuse me while I go shoot down a few flying pigs for tonight’s dinner.

86 brownbagj  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 1:10:44pm

Too much hope…let’s see…

Two stalker blogs conversing:
Stalker blog 1: I have been thinking a lot lately (yes - maybe too much hope)
Stalker blog 2: How does it feel? (probably appropriate)
Stalker blog 1: Thinking that maybe Charles was neither left nor right - just trying to do what’s right.
Stalker blog 2: What should we do?
Stalker blog 1: Take all proceeds from our hate site to fund Charles and then shut down.
Stalker 2: Agreed!

Is this bigger than Israel and Palestine? Cuba and the US?

87 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 1:28:22pm

Hmmm interesting. I have no love for Castro but I’m glad he’s saying this.

88 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 1:31:16pm

re: #29 SpaceJesus

i want a classic chevy made entirely out of cigars

Not bronzed condoms?

89 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 1:49:23pm

re: #43 Charles

Something pretty extraordinary is going on with Fidel Castro.

Fidel Castro says Cuban model no longer works.

Whoa. That’s huge.

90 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 1:55:45pm

re: #75 researchok

Doesn’t the teachers union cover that?
/

Catholic school. We ain’t unionized.

91 Slap  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 1:56:51pm

re: #73 SanFranciscoZionist

But, on the other hand, you’ve got 11-yr-olds watching the Midnight Special.

Although there was a fair share of poop on that program, I find the idea that an 11-yr-old might possibly see a clip of King Crimson, or T-Rex, or Mott the Hoople, or early Earth Wind $ Fire to be a nice thought.

And really, it’s not so bad that they respond negatively to ’70s hairstyles. Gives one hope!

92 marsl  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:16:05pm

I know why this new face of Fidel.

He wants to be buried in Jerusalem. It seems that 2000 years ago, somebody had been buried and resuscitated after 3 days…. and Fidel wants the same.

93 Tigger2005  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:22:00pm

It’s snowing in hell, pigs are flying, and the Pope has formally excommunicated every pedophile priest from the Church. Fidel Castro said something with which I actually agree.

94 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 11:04:18pm

re: #87 HappyWarrior

Hmmm interesting. I have no love for Castro but I’m glad he’s saying this.

My thought exactly.

Even if he doesn’t mean it, there’s a refreshing novelty in his not bashing, bashing, bashing someone for hours on end.

As for an end to the embargo, I suspect that we won’t see it until there’s either a Republican in the WH or a lame duck Democrat, such as President Obama in 2015. Just like it took a Republican to open relations with Mainland china.


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