Anti-Mosque Rally Attendance: Less Than 1,000

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According to the Associated Press, attendance at Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer’s international hate rally was less than 1,000: The Associated Press: Dueling demonstrations begin after 9/11 memorial.

After the ceremony, around 1,000 activists rallied about five blocks from the site of the 2001 attacks to support the proposed Islamic community center. A smaller group of opponents rallied nearby, chanting, “USA, USA.”

UPDATE at 9/11/10 6:27:36 pm:

Hilarious! Geller is claiming 40,000. Who could ever have predicted that?

UPDATE at 9/11/10 6:41:30 pm:

Pamela Geller’s closing words to the seething throng:

As the crowds dissipated, Geller warned them against talking to members of the media: “Do not give them any ammunition. You know who you are. You know that you’re righteous. Do not give them an opportunity to deride this fine and honorable effort. Remember what I’m saying. They’re looking to catch you. Don’t give it to them.”

“Listen to Mommy,” she said.

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314 comments
1 TedStriker  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:23:11pm

Would it be wrong for me to direct a hearty "BWAHAHAHA!!!" in Pam, Robert, and Geert's general direction?

2 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:25:45pm

re: #1 talon_262

No, no it wouldn't. I think we may have to deal with the bigots for a bit, but I'm reasonably certain good old American tolerance will win.

I hope I didn't offend anyone earlier.

3 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:25:51pm

Heh. Just as expected, Geller is claiming 40,000.

4 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:26:30pm

Evening lizards.

5 Bubblehead II  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:26:41pm

A smaller group of opponents rallied nearby, chanting, “USA, USA.”

Wonder how many people the Harpy is claiming was there.

Dons Haz-mat suit and prepare for a swim.

6 brookly red  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:27:06pm

re: #4 NJDhockeyfan

Evening lizards.

/run, save your self!

7 jamesfirecat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:27:11pm

Please tell me there was a counter protest larger than the actual protest.

I lvoe it when that happens.

8 Bubblehead II  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:27:17pm

re: #3 Charles

Damn, you beat me to it.

9 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:28:52pm

What I'd like to know is how many of the 1,000 or less were actually from the NYC area itself.

10 SpaceJesus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:30:21pm

re: #3 Charles

Heh. Just as expected, Geller is claiming 40,000.


that figure include all the voices in her head?

11 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:30:47pm

re: #4 NJDhockeyfan

Evening lizards.

Evenin' fellow lizard. Welcome.

12 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:31:00pm

40,000 Headmen

13 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:31:00pm

re: #6 brookly red

/run, save your self!

I'm watching a 9-11 show in the History Channel. It's all personal video recordings from NYC during the attacks. There are no announcers on this show, just personal recordings. I feel like it's 9 years ago all over again. I am pissed off right now.

I've been trying to avoid these shows tonight. My wife put this on then went to bed. I can't turn it off now. Fuck!

14 brookly red  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:31:07pm

size of the dog in the fight, or size of the fight in the dog? 19 men pulled off 9/11... just 19. numbers are a funny thing.

15 Bubblehead II  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:31:47pm

IT"S A CONSPIRACY TO SILENCE US !!!!

"Crickets are chirping in taqiya media newsrooms nationwide (although they were all there). There has been no coverage."

"UPDATE: I will be on FOX news tonight, Geraldo at Large, tonight at 10 pm Eastern, FOX news."

Did Geraldo ever find Al's vault?

Snicker.......

16 Cato the Elder  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:31:55pm

re: #3 Charles

Heh. Just as expected, Geller is claiming 40,000.

She's confused. That would be the brain cell count remaining to her.

17 [deleted]  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:32:17pm
18 brookly red  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:32:29pm

re: #13 NJDhockeyfan

I'm watching a 9-11 show in the History Channel. It's all personal video recordings from NYC during the attacks. There are no announcers on this show, just personal recordings. I feel like it's 9 years ago all over again. I am pissed off right now.

I've been trying to avoid these shows tonight. My wife put this on then went to bed. I can't turn it off now. Fuck!

/how can you run from what you know?

19 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:33:14pm

Does it matter? Glenn Beck had eleventy billion at his Godstock 2010 rally, calling for respect and honor, but 12 hours later he was back to his old asshole self. I expect the same to happen with Geller and her clan (or is that Klan?)...

20 MisterCookie  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:33:35pm

re: #16 Cato the Elder

She's confused. That would be the brain cell count remaining to her.

That's still too high. You could express her current brain cell count using less than a byte of data.

21 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:33:58pm

re: #13 NJDhockeyfan

I'm watching a 9-11 show in the History Channel. It's all personal video recordings from NYC during the attacks. There are no announcers on this show, just personal recordings. I feel like it's 9 years ago all over again. I am pissed off right now.

I've been trying to avoid these shows tonight. My wife put this on then went to bed. I can't turn it off now. Fuck!

I saw that this morning...Don't miss the miracle of Stairway B on the History channel.. The story of the 14 people that survived the North Tower collapse..

22 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:35:18pm

re: #9 eclectic infidel

What I'd like to know is how many of the 1,000 or less were actually from the NYC area itself.

That truly is the $64,000 question. I'll willing to bet no more than half, if even that, are from NYC itself.

23 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:36:03pm

re: #21 HoosierHoops

I saw that this morning...Don't miss the miracle of Stairway B on the History channel.. The story of the 14 people that survived the North Tower collapse..

Sorry if I don't give a shit about Pam Geller. This program I'm watching is something else. I'm gonna be pissed off for weeks again. Is that wrong?

24 engineer cat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:36:30pm

re: #20 MisterCookie

That's still too high. You could express her current brain cell count using less than a byte of data.

"you're either with us or against us"

they save storage space by using only a bit at a time due to their boolean view of morality

25 Bubblehead II  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:37:35pm

Oh My, from the 32 remarks so far.

Rose said...

Yes, the media was silent. CNN made it sound as if the pro-mosque rally was larger! I am so grateful to come here and read this version. Can't wait for Geraldo Rivera tonight! Go team!

Anybody got a bridge for sale? I think I can direct you to a buyer.

26 brookly red  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:37:59pm

re: #15 Bubblehead II

IT"S A CONSPIRACY TO SILENCE US !!!

"Crickets are chirping in taqiya media newsrooms nationwide (although they were all there). There has been no coverage."

"UPDATE: I will be on FOX news tonight, Geraldo at Large, tonight at 10 pm Eastern, FOX news."

Did Geraldo ever find Al's vault?

Snicker...

now I can't stand that rodent but really, if you found it would you tell any body? :)

27 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:38:01pm

To be fair, Pam was probably too drunk to get a really accurate count.

28 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:38:04pm

re: #23 NJDhockeyfan

Sorry if I don't give a shit about Pam Geller. This program I'm watching is something else. I'm gonna be pissed off for weeks again. Is that wrong?

I wasn't taking about Geller..I was talking about all the 911 footage on the History Channel this morning

29 TedStriker  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:38:10pm

re: #3 Charles

Heh. Just as expected, Geller is claiming 40,000.

re: #13 NJDhockeyfan

I'm watching a 9-11 show in the History Channel. It's all personal video recordings from NYC during the attacks. There are no announcers on this show, just personal recordings. I feel like it's 9 years ago all over again. I am pissed off right now.

I've been trying to avoid these shows tonight. My wife put this on then went to bed. I can't turn it off now. Fuck!

When I came to work earlier, someone had the TV in the kitchen on the History Channel and they were running a Experts vs. Troofers 9/11 show. I flipped that shit the moment I saw Alex Jones pop up...seriously, how in the fuck does he even have any media credibility?

/unfortunately, I know the answer to that...

30 The Shadow Do  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:39:21pm

Despite the morons who choose this day to promote their malevolent moronacy, I am taken with the fact that this great country is not so greatly changed from 9/10/01 - though the opposing cliche persists. Life is a deal more sober for most of us as the time passes - despite the self-celebrating loons this day attracts that would try to argue otherwise. It is as it should be. The economic exuberance we then knew will eventually return, cycles being what they are. We can live with the tougher security and inconvenience at airports because we must. We can live with the unending war on religious fundamentalism because we must.

Turns out Americans, in the whole, are a pretty smart, resilient and sensible lot. Doing just fine here y'all.

31 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:39:21pm

re: #27 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

To be fair, Pam was probably too drunk to get a really accurate count.

Hell, even seeing double, she wouldn't mistake 1,000 for 40,000.

32 jamesfirecat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:39:27pm

re: #15 Bubblehead II

Did Geraldo ever find Al's vault?

AHA ROAD MAPS!

(name the movie)

33 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:40:33pm

re: #28 HoosierHoops

I wasn't taking about Geller..I was talking about all the 911 footage on the History Channel this morning

I know you were. I just had to get that off my chest. This is a Pam Geller thread but she is the last thing concerning me right now. This show has no commercials and really has me in a spin.

34 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:40:46pm

re: #32 jamesfirecat

AHA ROAD MAPS!

(name the movie)

UHF

35 TedStriker  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:40:56pm

re: #32 jamesfirecat

AHA ROAD MAPS!

(name the movie)

UHF

/love Weird Al

36 Bubblehead II  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:41:02pm

re: #26 brookly red

Not until I verified the contents (and took what was actually worth something).

37 TedStriker  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:41:07pm

re: #34 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

JInx!

38 jamesfirecat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:41:07pm

re: #34 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

UHF


Well that didn't take long.

No wonder I like it here.

39 The Shadow Do  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:41:16pm

re: #3 Charles

Heh. Just as expected, Geller is claiming 40,000.


that would be the count of crotch cooties shared between her and Spencer.

40 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:42:19pm

Geller's closing words to the masses:

As the crowds dissipated, Geller warned them against talking to members of the media: “Do not give them any ammunition. You know who you are. You know that you’re righteous. Do not give them an opportunity to deride this fine and honorable effort. Remember what I’m saying. They’re looking to catch you. Don’t give it to them.”

“Listen to Mommy,” she said.

41 prairiefire  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:42:19pm

re: #7 jamesfirecat

Please tell me there was a counter protest larger than the actual protest.

I lvoe it when that happens.

There was a counter protest larger than the actual protest.

42 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:42:32pm

Those motherfuckers did this to our country! Goddamn them!

43 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:43:42pm

re: #40 Charles

Geller's closing words to the masses:

NO WIRE HANGERS!!!

44 TedStriker  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:43:43pm

re: #38 jamesfirecat

Well that didn't take long.

No wonder I like it here.

And Michael Richards as the spastic proto-Cosmo Kramer Stanley Spudowski...too bad we found out much later how much of an ass he apparently is IRL.

45 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:43:56pm

Did I miss anything while I was offline?

46 Bubblehead II  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:44:06pm

re: #32 jamesfirecat

AHA ROAD MAPS!

(name the movie)

Indianana Jones?

No Clue

47 brookly red  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:44:30pm

re: #36 Bubblehead II

Not until I verified the contents (and took what was actually worth something).

just trivia but Al Capone was "grew up" about 200 yards from where I am sitting now.

48 TedStriker  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:44:54pm

re: #40 Charles

Geller's closing words to the masses:

Is it me or was that Geller quote fucking creepy?

/listen to Mommy?

49 jamesfirecat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:45:16pm

re: #41 prairiefire

There was a counter protest larger than the actual protest.


MMMM THAT'S GOOD IRONY!

50 The Shadow Do  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:45:41pm

re: #42 NJDhockeyfan

Those motherfuckers did this to our country! Goddamn them!

Know what? We are killing their asses all over the world.

51 prairiefire  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:45:56pm

re: #45 Alouette

Did I miss anything while I was offline?

Happy New Year, Alouette. I found this cookbook on my last thrift store run, "Arthur Schwartz's Jewish Home Cooking." It looks great.

52 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:46:15pm

re: #48 talon_262

Is it me or was that Geller quote fucking creepy?

/listen to Mommy?

Very creepy.

53 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:46:27pm

re: #40 Charles

Geller's closing words to the masses:

What God complex?

/

54 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:48:25pm

re: #50 The Shadow Do

Know what? We are killing their asses all over the world.

I know. I'm still pissed off. It's beyond my control right now. They are showing people jumping out the windows of the WTCs on fire. It makes me sick.

55 Lidane  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:50:01pm

re: #10 SpaceJesus

that figure include all the voices in her head?

Nah. Just all the bottles of vodka she's polished off to get through the day. =P

She's delusional if she thinks they had anywhere near 40K people there.

56 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:51:26pm

re: #17 The Blue Boy

Out of curiousity, I checked out the Atlas blog. The pics are inconclusive from the angle they were taken. You only see about a block of a street that looks packed.

IndyBay is a website here in the Bay Area that is leftist, communist, anti-US, anti-Israel, you get the idea. It is notorious for inflating numbers at rallies and showing only the best photos of any given event.

The evil at work here is deception. It's PR and it's designed for one thing alone: propaganda. This rally was a test run, IMO.

57 Lidane  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:51:54pm

re: #13 NJDhockeyfan

I'm watching a 9-11 show in the History Channel.

And I've never been happier to have my cable on the fritz. Today is the last day that I'd watch anything on TV, except maybe something on the Food Network or some cartoons.

58 aorist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:52:58pm

re: #20 MisterCookie

That's still too high. You could express her current brain cell count using less than a byte of data.

Signed, or unsigned 8 bit integer? ;)

Oh and hi. I'm new here, although I've been lurking and reading for quite awhile. I've really been enjoying reading the site, and the comments. I feel a bit less alone in all the current madness. So, figured I'd register and participate.

*raises a glass* cheers, everyone have a good Saturday night.

59 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:53:31pm

re: #57 Lidane

And I've never been happier to have my cable on the fritz. Today is the last day that I'd watch anything on TV, except maybe something on the Food Network or some cartoons.

My kids played Wii all day and I cooked & canned over 7 gallons of hot sauce today. This was the last thing I wanted to see.

60 Stanghazi  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:53:38pm

Listen to Mommy? really? she said that?

sick lady

61 jamesfirecat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:53:48pm

re: #58 aorist

Signed, or unsigned 8 bit integer? ;)

Oh and hi. I'm new here, although I've been lurking and reading for quite awhile. I've really been enjoying reading the site, and the comments. I feel a bit less alone in all the current madness. So, figured I'd register and participate.

*raises a glass* cheers, everyone have a good Saturday night.

Welcome hatchling.

62 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:54:26pm

re: #60 Stanley Sea

Listen to Mommy? really? she said that?

sick lady

"Now go get mommy another 2 fingers of Scotch."

63 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:56:58pm

re: #58 aorist

Signed, or unsigned 8 bit integer? ;)

Oh and hi. I'm new here, although I've been lurking and reading for quite awhile. I've really been enjoying reading the site, and the comments. I feel a bit less alone in all the current madness. So, figured I'd register and participate.

*raises a glass* cheers, everyone have a good Saturday night.

Welcome!

64 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:57:15pm

re: #9 eclectic infidel

What I'd like to know is how many of the 1,000 or less were actually from the NYC area itself.

Nearly all of the people arrested in Oakland after the Mehserles verdict was announced were not from Oakland.

Like that.

65 [deleted]  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:57:30pm
66 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:57:47pm

re: #62 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"Now go get mommy another 2 fingers of Scotch."

Heh. Daddy just took a shot of blended scotch with a muscle relaxant. Hey, my neck hurts, okay? :)

67 Stanghazi  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:57:50pm

re: #62 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"Now go get mommy another 2 fingers of Scotch."

re: #62 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"Now go get mommy another 2 fingers of Scotch."

Lady is sick and twisted.

Emancipation!!

68 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:58:30pm

re: #14 brookly red

size of the dog in the fight, or size of the fight in the dog? 19 men pulled off 9/11... just 19. numbers are a funny thing.

Borrowed technology, and good timing.

And no one had ever seen a hjacking follow such a pattern.

69 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:58:44pm

re: #65 The Blue Boy

I can see why Geller didn't link to the pictures directly. Her call for "no signs, just flags" was pretty much ignored.

That's from June.

70 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:58:49pm

All the truthers who think our government bombed those towers need to watch this show.

71 engineer cat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 6:59:28pm

re: #58 aorist

Signed, or unsigned 8 bit integer? ;)

Oh and hi. I'm new here, although I've been lurking and reading for quite awhile. I've really been enjoying reading the site, and the comments. I feel a bit less alone in all the current madness. So, figured I'd register and participate.

*raises a glass* cheers, everyone have a good Saturday night.

welcome

you must be a literate person, since not only do you know the difference between signed and unsigned, but, if i am not mistaken, your nym is an obscure verb tense understood only by attic greeks

72 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:00:02pm

re: #30 The Shadow Do

Despite the morons who choose this day to promote their malevolent moronacy, I am taken with the fact that this great country is not so greatly changed from 9/10/01 - though the opposing cliche persists. Life is a deal more sober for most of us as the time passes - despite the self-celebrating loons this day attracts that would try to argue otherwise. It is as it should be. The economic exuberance we then knew will eventually return, cycles being what they are. We can live with the tougher security and inconvenience at airports because we must. We can live with the unending war on religious fundamentalism because we must.

Turns out Americans, in the whole, are a pretty smart, resilient and sensible lot. Doing just fine here y'all.

And despite our recent problems, we're pretty welcoming.

[Link: edition.cnn.com...]

This is a great story. Two young Muslim men from NY spent Ramadan traveling the country, visiting other mosques and communities.

The fisherman in Montana became the embodiment of their trip -- Ali and Tariq were embraced nearly everywhere they went, from a Confederate souvenir shop in Georgia to the streets of Las Vegas, Nevada, to the hills of North Dakota where the nation's first mosque was built in 1929.

Like any road trip, there were strange moments along the way: A Mississippi police officer quizzed them about their beliefs on the ground zero mosque and they were asked to leave a mosque in Mobile, Alabama.

They chuckle about those experiences now and emphasize it shouldn't overshadow the whole trip because, ultimately, they discovered that America still embraces immigrants and the nation is filled with welcoming and loving people.

Apparently, that mosque had some problems with foreign visitors. The guys talk about it on the video at the link.

73 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:00:02pm

re: #40 Charles

That's quite a fetish Pammy is entertaining.

74 Bubblehead II  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:00:53pm

re: #58 aorist

Welcome Hatchling. If you have been lurking as long as you claim, bring me a drink.

75 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:01:14pm

re: #23 NJDhockeyfan

Sorry if I don't give a shit about Pam Geller. This program I'm watching is something else. I'm gonna be pissed off for weeks again. Is that wrong?

Emotions aren't right or wrong, they're what you feel. Anger is a pretty normal one in this case.

/That's my NorCal way of saying that I kind of sympathize with that guy they picked up in Pakistan who was gonna go hunting for Bin Laden by himself with a gun and a Bible.

76 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:01:31pm

re: #58 aorist

Signed, or unsigned 8 bit integer? ;)

Oh and hi. I'm new here, although I've been lurking and reading for quite awhile. I've really been enjoying reading the site, and the comments. I feel a bit less alone in all the current madness. So, figured I'd register and participate.

*raises a glass* cheers, everyone have a good Saturday night.

Cheers and good will to you.

77 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:01:52pm

re: #70 NJDhockeyfan

All the truthers who think our government bombed those towers need to watch this show.

That's where you are wrong..All the facts in the world and even eyewitness accounts recorded for all time will not change the Truther's mind.. Facts don't matter to those dumbasses at all

78 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:02:41pm

re: #65 The Blue Boy

I can see why Geller didn't link to the pictures directly. Her call for "no signs, just flags" was pretty much ignored.

That baseball cap and suit look has got to go. Can't mommy at least dress him??

79 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:02:53pm

Q: What would an LGF thread be without a catchy little tune about heroin addiction?

Youtube Video

A: (it would be an LGF thread)

BUT WAIT!

Youtube Video
80 [deleted]  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:03:17pm
81 avanti  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:04:03pm

Fox covering both sides of the protest now.(Geraldo) BTW, Pam is supposed to be on.

82 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:04:20pm

re: #60 Stanley Sea

Listen to Mommy? really? she said that?

sick lady

She sees herself as a nurturing figure, taking care of her followers in a brutal world. Go figure.

83 avanti  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:05:25pm

re: #81 avanti

Fox covering both sides of the protest now.(Geraldo) BTW, Pam is supposed to be on.

Fox said 1500 anti Mosque, 2000 pro demonstrators.

84 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:06:12pm

re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist

Emotions aren't right or wrong, they're what you feel. Anger is a pretty normal one in this case.

/That's my NorCal way of saying that I kind of sympathize with that guy they picked up in Pakistan who was gonna go hunting for Bin Laden by himself with a gun and a Bible.

Thank you. Emotions are high right now. I'm watching people running down the street after the first tower collapsed. Goddamn it!

85 Capitalist Tool  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:08:12pm

re: #45 Alouette

Did I miss anything while I was offline?


Missed the Bourbon thread; me too- could have gone to town on that one.

86 jamesfirecat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:09:02pm

re: #83 avanti

Fox said 1500 anti Mosque, 2000 pro demonstrators.

Wow you know you're in trouble when even fox says you got out portested by liberals!

87 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:09:17pm

Time for liquor. BBIAM

88 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:09:48pm

re: #83 avanti

Fox said 1500 anti Mosque, 2000 pro demonstrators.

Fox's report is from the AP, too - an earlier version than the one I'm posting here.

89 engineer cat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:09:57pm

mediamatters:

TIMELINE: Nine months of the right's anti-Muslim bigotry

90 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:10:01pm

Mommy? That's weird. Over my beers I had with my dinner tonight I was thinking about for me what a year of contradictions 2001 was for me on a personal level and of course as an American. In 2001 my youngest brother was born and he's almost like a surrogate son to me. He looks up to me and I'm very protective of him. That same year my godmother who was just about the most kindest woman you could have known passed away. And of course 9-11 which we all know and then there was the jubliation I felt starting high school that year. It was a crazy time to be 14.

91 prairiefire  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:11:41pm

re: #79 negativ

Have you seen my wig around?

Youtube Video
92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:12:08pm

If an idiot shouts and the press doesn't cover it...

93 jamesfirecat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:12:44pm

re: #89 engineer dog

mediamatters:

TIMELINE: Nine months of the right's anti-Muslim bigotry

///Well yeah but its Media matters, are you really gonna trust that left leaning web site?

94 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:12:52pm

re: #23 NJDhockeyfan

Sorry if I don't give a shit about Pam Geller. This program I'm watching is something else. I'm gonna be pissed off for weeks again. Is that wrong?

Not at all, as long as you aim that anger properly.

95 researchok  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:13:07pm

re: #81 avanti

Fox covering both sides of the protest now.(Geraldo) BTW, Pam is supposed to be on.

She's up next.

96 engineer cat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:13:55pm

That same day in an Atlas Shrugs post, Pamela Geller reacted to the Times' article, writing: "I don't know what is more grotesque...jihad or the NY Times preening of it. The New York Times yet again misrepresents, obfuscates, and confuses infidels and kaffirs about Islam." In her post, Geller mostly discussed Sufism, the branch of Islam that Rauf and his followers belong to.

sufis? i don't know much about it, but my impression was that sufism is one of the least doctrinaire or militaristic of any branch of islam

97 avanti  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:13:57pm

re: #88 Charles

Fox's report is from the AP, too - an earlier version than the one I'm posting here.

WTF, they have a Nation of Islam Black Panther on with Pam for fair and balanced report ???.

98 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:14:54pm

re: #97 avanti

WTF, they have a Nation of Islam Black Panther on with Pam for fair and balanced report ???.

Way to go Fox, way to go.

99 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:15:00pm

I have cried exactly twice in a Church..Once when my Mother died and on Weds.Sept 12th 2001 at lunchtime in a Catholic Church..

100 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:15:08pm

re: #97 avanti

WTF, they have a Nation of Islam Black Panther on with Pam for fair and balanced report ???.

Really? Yikes!

101 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:15:32pm

re: #93 jamesfirecat

///Well yeah but its Media matters, are you really gonna trust that left leaning web site?

Not really, but I'll watch the clips they post. If its a editorial, though, I'll stay clear.

102 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:15:36pm

OK, so the Nation of Islam is involved in this exactly how?

103 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:16:10pm

re: #99 HoosierHoops

I have cried exactly twice in a Church..Once when my Mother died and on Weds.Sept 12th 2001 at lunchtime in a Catholic Church..

I've come pretty close a couple times tonight. I haven't cried in decades.

104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:17:04pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

Holy cow! You're a baby!

105 jamesfirecat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:17:09pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

Not really, but I'll watch the clips they post. If its a editorial, though, I'll stay clear.

///But... but... but... if Andrew Brietbart can totally edit clips th make them meaningless than Media Matters must being doing the exact same thing!


(Sorry I'm pretty sure I've see this exact same argument made hear minus sarc tags so I feel the need to dredge it back up again...)

106 jamesfirecat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:17:42pm

re: #104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Holy cow! You're a baby!

I'm two years younger than him, what does that make me, a fetus?

107 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:17:43pm

re: #104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Holy cow! You're a baby!

You know that actually makes me feel kinda good since I'm taking these classes with all these 20-21 year old kids.

108 Capitalist Tool  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:17:48pm

re: #97 avanti

they did that last night, too, unless this is a rerun.

Last night, Pam said something about 'smoking gun' and the Farrakhommando started yelling at her: "I GOT YOUR SMOKIN" GUN RIGHT HERE..."

109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:17:57pm

re: #23 NJDhockeyfan

My anger hasn't subsided a bit... Don't need to watch anything to make me more angry.

110 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:18:36pm

re: #102 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, so the Nation of Islam is involved in this exactly how?

The purpose is induce revulsion among viewers. Most people will recoil from any Panthers, so it makes Geller look better. And a nutcase like that won't be able to use the facts to counter Geller effectively.

/Or is that just too cynical?

111 researchok  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:18:49pm

re: #102 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, so the Nation of Islam is involved in this exactly how?

In any way they can insert themselves.

112 prairiefire  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:18:53pm

re: #104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Holy cow! You're a baby!

So is James.
I read your 9/11 post, James. Thanks for the insight.

113 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:19:20pm

re: #103 NJDhockeyfan

I've come pretty close a couple times tonight. I haven't cried in decades.

It's a natural reaction man. I saw a documentary on Daniel Pearl a few years back and man that was so heartbreaking to watch. I also watched a movie on Flight 93. So hard to watch since I knew exactly what was going to happen obviously. Such bravery those people had.

114 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:19:56pm

re: #108 Capitalist Tool

they did that last night, too, unless this is a rerun.

Last night, Pam said something about 'smoking gun' and the Farrakhommando started yelling at her: "I GOT YOUR SMOKIN" GUN RIGHT HERE..."

Let's get all the crazy people on one TV show, and...then they won't be walking the streets.

115 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:20:08pm

re: #110 Dark_Falcon

The purpose is induce revulsion among viewers. Most people will recoil from any Panthers, so it makes Geller look better. And a nutcase like that won't be able to use the facts to counter Geller effectively.

/Or is that just too cynical?

So they use the Panthers to make her look good? Um... I was under the impression they aren't fond of Jewish people.

116 jamesfirecat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:20:11pm

re: #110 Dark_Falcon

The purpose is induce revulsion among viewers. Most people will recoil from any Panthers, so it makes Geller look better. And a nutcase like that won't be able to use the facts to counter Geller effectively.

/Or is that just too cynical?

To Paraphrase the Daily Show, "If they're not being just that evil, then they're just mind boglingly stupid."

117 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:20:12pm

re: #110 Dark_Falcon

Deceit has many faces.

118 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:20:21pm

I know. It's not supposed to make any sense. We're talking Pam Geller here. But she said this to her little cult following:

Do not give them any ammunition. You know who you are. You know that you’re righteous. Do not give them an opportunity to deride this fine and honorable effort. Remember what I’m saying. They’re looking to catch you. Don’t give it to them.

But said this at her kooky website:

Media pretends these people don't exist. It's criminal.

Which is it? She want the media to operate under her own terms? And what's this BS about the media. She's been on Fox News numerous times and was even on CNN babbling away more than once. She's practically a regular at the New York Post.

Damn, I can't believe how foolish these people are. Where was their hallowed Fox News? And what's this ridiculous notion that Fox News is not part of the mainstream media. Fox and New Corp are one of the largest media outlets in the world.

119 researchok  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:20:29pm

re: #102 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, so the Nation of Islam is involved in this exactly how?

In any way they can insert themselves.

120 The Shadow Do  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:20:37pm

re: #102 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, so the Nation of Islam is involved in this exactly how?

Farrakhan failed his pilot test; his instructor was Jewish I think.

121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:20:42pm

re: #106 jamesfirecat

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Just so you kids know... your politics will change dramatically between now and when you turn 35.

If it doesn't. It is an epic fail.

If you ain't evolving; you're decomposing.

122 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:21:08pm

re: #115 marjoriemoon

So they use the Panthers to make her look good? Um... I was under the impression they aren't fond of Jewish people.

They're not. And she's not crazy about Muslims, even weird Muslims. And both parties are belligerent as hell. It's a recipe for high comedy.

123 researchok  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:21:10pm

re: #118 Gus 802

I know. It's not supposed to make any sense. We're talking Pam Geller here. But she said this to her little cult following:

But said this at her kooky website:

Which is it? She want the media to operate under her own terms? And what's this BS about the media. She's been on Fox News numerous times and was even on CNN babbling away more than once. She's practically a regular at the New York Post.

Damn, I can't believe how foolish these people are. Where was their hallowed Fox News? And what's this ridiculous notion that Fox News is not part of the mainstream media. Fox and New Corp are one of the largest media outlets in the world.

Are you seriously trying to make sense of Geller?

124 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:21:14pm

re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My anger hasn't subsided a bit... Don't need to watch anything to make me more angry.

Don't put this show on then unless you are drinking. The JD is helping me a little now.

125 Capitalist Tool  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:21:24pm

re: #114 SanFranciscoZionist

Let's get all the crazy people on one TV show, and...then they won't be walking the streets.

Maybe in one stadium county...

126 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:21:37pm

re: #123 researchok

Are you seriously trying to make sense of Geller?

Not really.

127 brookly red  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:21:41pm

re: #114 SanFranciscoZionist

Let's get all the crazy people on one TV show, and...then they won't be walking the streets.

perhaps crazy people on TV is part of the problem. just saying...

128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:21:41pm

re: #77 HoosierHoops

Speaking the truth. Fortunately, not the "troof".

129 jamesfirecat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:22:07pm

re: #121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Just so you kids know... your politics will change dramatically between now and when you turn 35.

If it doesn't. It is an epic fail.

If you ain't evolving; you're decomposing.


If my start up company hits it off then in point of fact I am quite likely to suddenly become quite concerned with how much the top 95% of our country pay in income taxes.

If not expect me to become concerned with unemployment benefits....

130 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:22:39pm

re: #115 marjoriemoon

So they use the Panthers to make her look good? Um... I was under the impression they aren't fond of Jewish people.

They use an anti-Semite like that to make her look good by comparison.

131 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:22:40pm

re: #121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Just so you kids know... your politics will change dramatically between now and when you turn 35.

If it doesn't. It is an epic fail.

If you ain't evolving; you're decomposing.

I am sure they will. Hell I'm of the opinion that everything about one's personality not just one's politics is in constant evolution. I've done stuff the past couple years that didn't fit my personality at all when I was 18.

132 Henchman 25  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:23:08pm

re: #118 Gus 802

It's not "mainstream" if it agrees with them.

133 Capitalist Tool  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:23:08pm

re: #129 jamesfirecat

Could you loan me $3?

134 webevintage  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:23:28pm

9/11 footage just makes me weep.
My husband came home from work and saw that I was watching the MSNBC replay of their programming from 9/11 and crying and he promptly turned the channel to a football game and said "no more of that tonight".
Then he gave me a big hug....

135 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:23:42pm

Pam's as much an expert on Islam as Jenny McCarthy is on vaccinations.

Its damn near criminal to give them a platform to spew their garbage.

136 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:23:48pm

re: #124 NJDhockeyfan

Trying to stop smoking (again)... haven't had a drink in three days either.

If I keep this bronchitis for a couple more months, I'll be able to lick the smoking, and I'll bet I could drop a few lbs...

OT... I'm watching "The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers"...

Orcs look to be bad-asses... but they drop if you give them a hard pinch.

137 researchok  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:23:51pm

re: #126 Gus 802

Not really.

Your remarks re FOX really merit attention. They are as much a part of the MSM as every other MSM outlet.

Whatever they are guilty of (and that is plenty at the moment) doesn't change that reality.

138 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:23:53pm

"Listen to mommy?" She really is fucking crazy.

139 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:24:11pm

This is an outrage! Fox News doesn't have Pam Geller's rally on their front page! Fox News has gone over to the dark side! Clearly this is a sign that Al-Waleed bin Talal is pulling the strings at Fox!

//

140 avanti  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:24:29pm

re: #100 NJDhockeyfan

Really? Yikes!

Oddly, against her, he seems simi-rational, and that says a lot about Pam. He mentioned Muslum concentration camps while talking about the hate, and was called on that by Geraldo, who seems to think they are both nuts. He actually said that was about as crazy as Pam's fear that Islam will take over in the USA.

141 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:24:42pm

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

They use an anti-Semite like that to make her look good by comparison.

The anti-Semites show up at the protests. They don't need one on TV giving their point of view, that's for sure.

142 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:25:15pm

re: #134 webevintage

9/11 footage just makes me weep.
My husband came home from work and saw that I was watching the MSNBC replay of their programming from 9/11 and crying and he promptly turned the channel to a football game and said "no more of that tonight".
Then he gave me a big hug...

Every year, I remember one of my college friends talking about the aftermath of 9/11 at her house. Her younger son was a toddler at the time. She thought she'd done a very good job of keeping him shielded from what was happening, until, a few days after the event, she went to the VCR to turn on "Blue's Clues" and Aidan yelled "No fire trucks! No bad guys!" and started crying.

143 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:25:24pm

re: #134 webevintage

9/11 footage just makes me weep.
My husband came home from work and saw that I was watching the MSNBC replay of their programming from 9/11 and crying and he promptly turned the channel to a football game and said "no more of that tonight".
Then he gave me a big hug...

He needs to come over here.

144 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:25:37pm

Pamela Geller now on Fox with Geraldo. Against Malik Shabazz. Oh brother.

145 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:26:13pm

re: #140 avanti

He mentioned Muslum concentration camps while talking about the hate, and was called on that by Geraldo, who seems to think they are both nuts..

Might be one of those times I agree with Geraldo.

146 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:26:19pm

Now she's claiming 30,000.

Hah!

147 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:26:42pm

Geraldo's openly mocking her.

148 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:26:43pm

re: #137 researchok

Your remarks re FOX really merit attention. They are as much a part of the MSM as every other MSM outlet.

Whatever they are guilty of (and that is plenty at the moment) doesn't change that reality.

Right. Some people are so separated from reality that they can't accept that fact. Fox News is part of the MSM. For Entertainment play a big role in the "Hollywood establishment." Heck, Avatar, the movie they so much dislike, was a Fox production.

149 jamesfirecat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:26:45pm

re: #134 webevintage

9/11 footage just makes me weep.
My husband came home from work and saw that I was watching the MSNBC replay of their programming from 9/11 and crying and he promptly turned the channel to a football game and said "no more of that tonight".
Then he gave me a big hug...


That's the kind of strange mix of jerkitude and doing just the right thing you normally only see out of Tim Taylor...

150 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:26:56pm

Geraldo is an idiot...it's fitting he should have Geller on his show.

151 avanti  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:27:04pm

re: #146 Charles

Now she's claiming 30,000.

Hah!

Geraldo said, 1500 back to her.

152 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:27:09pm

re: #144 Charles

Pamela Geller now on Fox with Geraldo. Against Malik Shabazz. Oh brother.

Can please just lock all three of them in Al Capone's Vault and be done with them?

153 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:27:10pm

re: #144 Charles

Pamela Geller now on Fox with Geraldo. Against Malik Shabazz. Oh brother.

That just made me LOL all over again. Are they wearing boxing gloves?

154 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:27:16pm

She must be seething right now, big time.

155 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:27:43pm

re: #147 Charles

Geraldo's openly mocking her.

LOL, good for him.

156 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:27:49pm

They just showed the second tower go down. Goddamn fucking Islamic terrorist cocksucking SOBs! Dammit!

157 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:27:50pm

That was a rough-cut to commercial...mid sentence while Geraldo was speaking? Something honest must have happened.

158 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:27:51pm

re: #148 Gus 802

Right. Some people are so separated from reality that they can't accept that fact. Fox News is part of the MSM. For Entertainment play a big role in the "Hollywood establishment." Heck, Avatar, the movie they so much dislike, was a Fox production.

I finally saw Avatar.

159 TedStriker  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:27:59pm

re: #139 Gus 802

This is an outrage! Fox News doesn't have Pam Geller's rally on their front page! Fox News has gone over to the dark side! Clearly this is a sign that Al-Waleed bin Talal is pulling the strings at Fox!

//

Wouldn't surprise me if that thought has crossed her fevered mind...

160 prairiefire  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:28:02pm

re: #147 Charles

Geraldo's openly mocking her.

Do not tempt me to turn that channel on...

161 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:28:06pm

re: #85 Capitalist Tool

Don't drink and drive.

162 Henchman 25  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:28:06pm

For once, Geraldo's being awesome.

163 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:28:33pm

re: #158 SanFranciscoZionist

I finally saw Avatar.

You like it? I haven't seen a movie in ages. Wouldn't mind seeing Hurt Locker.

164 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:28:39pm

Sudden cut to commercial.

Meanwhile Dave Weigel just tweeted this:

Spoiler: Gingrich said the model for Obama's worldview was "Kenyan anti-colonialism." Probably my fault; I mentioned Fanon.

Gingrich is going all the way.

165 The Shadow Do  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:28:42pm

re: #144 Charles

Pamela Geller now on Fox with Geraldo. Against Malik Shabazz. Oh brother.

Geller, Geraldo, Shabazz. Freak show for sure.

166 Lidane  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:28:50pm

re: #97 avanti

WTF, they have a Nation of Islam Black Panther on with Pam for fair and balanced report ???.

Didn't you know? A Muslim is a Muslim is a Muslim. The Nation of Islam has the word Islam in the name! They're totally relevant to the discussion of a Sufi community center.

///

167 TedStriker  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:28:54pm

re: #138 darthstar

"Listen to mommy?" She really is fucking crazy.

That's a big ol' "Duhhhh", good buddy!

;-P

168 researchok  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:29:19pm

I wonder how much money both Geller and Shabazz have raised and will continue to raise for their respective causes.

This background music of the Ground Zero debate is the cha-ching of the cash registers.

I also wonder how much energy and effort Geller would be expending if there were no money involved in any of the crusades she has adopted.

169 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:29:24pm

re: #164 Charles

Sudden cut to commercial.

Meanwhile Dave Weigel just tweeted this:

Gingrich is going all the way.

How long before Newt starts demanding to see Obama's nirth certificate?

170 Stanghazi  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:29:45pm

And for the cherry on top, wonder how the Palin/Beck honor 911 for $$$ is going?

171 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:29:46pm

re: #158 SanFranciscoZionist

I finally saw Avatar.

What did you make of it? I thought it was good. Not great but good. Thought it was also funny that right wingers were getting their panties bunched up since they're always mocking liberals for being "too sensitive and emotional."

172 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:29:48pm

re: #158 SanFranciscoZionist

I finally saw Avatar.

Just add my scene at the end to get the full effect.

A bunch of Marines sitting around the shuttle, wondering what to do next.

"We come back, nuke the site from orbit. Its the only way to be sure."

173 jamesfirecat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:29:51pm

re: #164 Charles

Sudden cut to commercial.

Meanwhile Dave Weigel just tweeted this:


Gingrich is going all the way.

He could... he just might... he really could....

Image: jump_the_shark.png

NEWT GINGRICH HAS JUST JUMPED THE SHARK!

174 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:30:12pm

re: #163 Gus 802

You like it? I haven't seen a movie in ages. Wouldn't mind seeing Hurt Locker.

It was earlier this summer, while we were at the in-law's place in Louisiana. I enjoyed it, it was sort of fun, although it really was Dances With Wolves in space. Very heavy-handed, but kind of cute.

175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:30:36pm

re: #158 SanFranciscoZionist

I walked out... did you like it?

176 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:30:39pm

Gingrich was always a nut to me honestly. I can remember when he was speaker that my mom hated him since his government shutdown put her out of work for a while.

177 Capitalist Tool  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:30:48pm

Malik Shabazz

178 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:30:51pm

re: #164 Charles

Sudden cut to commercial.

Meanwhile Dave Weigel just tweeted this:

Gingrich is going all the way.

Wasn't Fanon from Martinique or someplace?

179 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:30:53pm

re: #174 SanFranciscoZionist

It was earlier this summer, while we were at the in-law's place in Louisiana. I enjoyed it, it was sort of fun, although it really was Dances With Wolves in space. Very heavy-handed, but kind of cute.

Dances With Wolves in space! That's funny. Sort of like Star Trek was sometimes called Gunsmoke in space.

180 The Shadow Do  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:31:10pm

re: #164 Charles

Sudden cut to commercial.

Meanwhile Dave Weigel just tweeted this:


Gingrich is going all the way.

Pretty shocking. He has always been cynically measured. Sure sign he is totally irrelevent.

181 brookly red  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:31:56pm

wow... the "tribute in light" coming out of the Trade Center site is really something.

182 Capitalist Tool  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:32:01pm

re: #161 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

snicker

183 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:32:17pm

Why in the world do they have a moron like Shabazz debating crazy Pam Geller?

184 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:32:19pm

re: #174 SanFranciscoZionist

I thought it should've been named, "Hey! Look What CGI Can Do!"

185 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:32:19pm

re: #174 SanFranciscoZionist

It was earlier this summer, while we were at the in-law's place in Louisiana. I enjoyed it, it was sort of fun, although it really was Dances With Wolves in space. Very heavy-handed, but kind of cute.

I did turn to the SIL at one point and say 'I know we're supposed to think these guys can win, but it didn't go so well for the Sioux when they tried this with the U.S. Cavalry, and these guys have even bigger guns."

186 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:32:22pm

Is it Geraldo At Large?

187 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:32:33pm

re: #183 Gus 802

Why in the world do they have a moron like Shabazz debating crazy Pam Geller?

Ratings

188 engineer cat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:32:38pm

Nation of Islam Black Panther

they're muslim black panthers like the holy roman empire was holy, roman, and an empire

189 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:32:47pm

re: #179 Gus 802

Dances With Wolves in space! That's funny. Sort of like Star Trek was sometimes called Gunsmoke in space.

Now, Firefly was decidedly a space Western.

190 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:32:55pm

re: #183 Gus 802

Why in the world do they have a moron like Shabazz debating crazy Pam Geller?

Because no self-respecting Muslim would be caught dead on Fox...he's the best they could get.

191 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:33:03pm

re: #183 Gus 802

Why in the world do they have a moron like Shabazz debating crazy Pam Geller?

To make the fight even. They are both nuts.

192 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:33:36pm

re: #191 NJDhockeyfan

To make the fight even. They are both nuts.

Yeah. It's like a WWF wrestling match.

193 researchok  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:33:53pm

re: #148 Gus 802

Right. Some people are so separated from reality that they can't accept that fact. Fox News is part of the MSM. For Entertainment play a big role in the "Hollywood establishment." Heck, Avatar, the movie they so much dislike, was a Fox production.

Right. There is a kind of disassociation here on all sides- whenever a news outlet will report on an event that is not liked, they are immediately marginalized.

In the case of FOX, they have deliberately blurred the line between news, entertainment and opinion. Same for MSNBC, but they are not as of yet quite as adept at it.

CNN is the only cable network where it is still pretty clear who does what, with a few exceptions (e.g., Rick Sanchez). How long that will last no one knows.

194 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:33:57pm

You know who you are. You know that you’re righteous. Do not give them an opportunity to deride this fine and honorable effort. Remember what I’m saying. They’re looking to catch you. Don’t give it to them.”

“Listen to Mommy,” she said.

lolwut?

Youtube Video
195 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:34:06pm

re: #184 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I thought it should've been named, "Hey! Look What CGI Can Do!"

Which is kind of cool. When we did Greek mythology in my ninth grade class, I used to have the kids watch sections of 'Clash of the Titans' and 'Jason and the Argonauts', and tell them that this was what really great special effects looked like when Mrs. SFZ was a little girl.

196 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:34:19pm

You know, the problem isn't so much to me that Fox is biased. I think bias is something that's fairly unavoidable since news is done by human beings not by robots but Fox's problem to me is their bias gets in the way of their ability to report the news. They come across as right wing hacks to me.

197 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:34:33pm

re: #192 Gus 802

Yeah. It's like a WWF wrestling match.

And Geraldo is there...

MY CHAIR SHOT IDEA IS STILL A POSSIBILITY! YES!!!

198 researchok  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:34:35pm

re: #183 Gus 802

Why in the world do they have a moron like Shabazz debating crazy Pam Geller?

He is to FOX what Pat Buchanan is to MSNBC.

House idiot.

199 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:35:11pm

I'd like to see the Orcs do the "Thriller Dance". But, every time they did the foot stomp... they would die.

Really, they can't take much punishment.

200 TedStriker  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:35:13pm

re: #189 SanFranciscoZionist

Now, Firefly was decidedly a space Western.

Star Trek (TOS) did it first...Gene Roddenberry referred to it as "Wagon Train to the stars".

201 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:35:16pm

re: #191 NJDhockeyfan

To make the fight even. They are both nuts.

Now, if they start doing one of those girly slap-fights like you see on sitcoms, someone get it up on YouTube.

202 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:35:44pm

re: #197 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And Geraldo is there...

MY CHAIR SHOT IDEA IS STILL A POSSIBILITY! YES!!!

Maybe one of them will break his nose again. That would be entertaining.

203 Lidane  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:35:56pm

re: #174 SanFranciscoZionist

It was earlier this summer, while we were at the in-law's place in Louisiana. I enjoyed it, it was sort of fun, although it really was Dances With Wolves in space. Very heavy-handed, but kind of cute.

Heh. South Park called it Dances With Smurfs. :D

Avatar was pretty enough, but I hated the story. It was typical James Cameron -- lacking all subtlety, preachy, and so obvious that I knew the ending before anything even really got going. It was like Titanic. Sure, I knew the boat was going to sink, but I also knew the rest of the ending before Kate Winslet even stepped on the boat.

My other issue with Avatar? The 3D was overwhelming. I was dizzy and nauseous with a killer headache, and for hours after seeing the film, not because of the awful story and cheesy dialogue, but because of the barrage of effects. Ugh. Never again.

204 avanti  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:36:24pm

re: #156 NJDhockeyfan

They just showed the second tower go down. Goddamn fucking Islamic terrorist cocksucking SOBs! Dammit!

I was born just before Pearl Harbor, but I'd bet that emotion largely led to locking up Japanese citizens. At least you are directing your anger just at the Islamic terrorists, some are not that rational.
It good to be pissed, we all are, but most of us keep the focus you do. Hell, I think Charles got more involved in politics because of 9-11, and he was pissed too.

205 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:36:38pm

re: #203 Lidane

Heh. South Park called it Dances With Smurfs. :D

Avatar was pretty enough, but I hated the story. It was typical James Cameron -- lacking all subtlety, preachy, and so obvious that I knew the ending before anything even really got going. It was like Titanic. Sure, I knew the boat was going to sink, but I also knew the rest of the ending before Kate Winslet even stepped on the boat.

My other issue with Avatar? The 3D was overwhelming. I was dizzy and nauseous with a killer headache, and for hours after seeing the film, not because of the awful story and cheesy dialogue, but because of the barrage of effects. Ugh. Never again.

I saw it on the DVD player, so the 3D wasn't a problem.

206 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:36:43pm

re: #201 SanFranciscoZionist

Now, if they start doing one of those girly slap-fights like you see on sitcoms, someone get it up on YouTube.

I'm not watching it but I imagine it's like a skit out of SNL. The Shabazz and Geller Show! With your host! Jorendo Revolver!

207 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:36:46pm

re: #195 SanFranciscoZionist

Or the "King Kong" with Fay Wray?

208 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:37:02pm

How weird. Geller's just sitting there while they talk about the CA gas explosion.

209 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:37:27pm

re: #208 Charles

How weird. Geller's just sitting there while they talk about the CA gas explosion.

She's trying to figure out a way to suggest that the Muslims did it.

210 brookly red  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:38:08pm

re: #209 SanFranciscoZionist

She's trying to figure out a way to suggest that the Muslims did it.

/they didn't?

211 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:38:10pm

re: #208 Charles

How weird. Geller's just sitting there while they talk about the CA gas explosion.

She's probably trying to think of a way to blame Muslims.

212 researchok  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:38:16pm

re: #208 Charles

How weird. Geller's just sitting there while they talk about the CA gas explosion.

If there is no payoff, she just isn't interested.

213 avanti  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:38:36pm

re: #188 engineer dog

Nation of Islam Black Panther

they're muslim black panthers like the holy roman empire was holy, roman, and an empire

The Moral Majority was neither.

214 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:38:43pm

re: #207 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Or the "King Kong" with Fay Wray?

Whatever happened to Fay Wray?

Don't dream it, be it. (sorry...best version I could find on short notice)

Youtube Video
215 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:39:20pm

My brain is beginning to hurt watching this.

216 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:39:23pm

Both towers are down and it's eerily quite in downtown Manhattan. It looks like a nuke went off. I weep for all the victims. All those terrorists have gone to Hell and are burning...they have found out the hard way that the 72 virgin story was a lie.

217 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:39:28pm

re: #208 Charles

How weird. Geller's just sitting there while they talk about the CA gas explosion.

She's waiting for the subject to return to how awesome she is.

218 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:39:33pm

re: #209 SanFranciscoZionist

She's trying to figure out a way to suggest that the Muslims did it.

PGE is controlled by left-wing California Dhimmis!!11ty

219 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:40:12pm

re: #215 Charles

My brain is beginning to hurt watching this.

It's a sad day when a New Black Panther has to try and be the voice of reason on a talk show.

220 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:40:23pm

I'm so sorry for San Bruno Tonight..Imagine waking up in Hell...4 Dead? 60 injured?

221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:40:51pm

re: #216 NJDhockeyfan

I've been trying to remember...how long were the dump trucks hauling debris out of the WTC site.

222 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:40:52pm

Why do they let this man speak? To make fools out of Muslims? Fox is wicked.

223 brennant  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:41:04pm

re: #215 Charles

My brain is beginning to hurt watching this.

I just tuned in... who is the other woman?

224 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:41:28pm

re: #158 SanFranciscoZionist

I finally saw Avatar.

Well, what did you think about it?

225 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:41:37pm

re: #216 NJDhockeyfan

All those terrorists have gone to Hell and are burning...they have found out the hard way that the 72 virgin story was a lie.

I think having 72 virgins following me around for all eternity asking why I never call is the perfect definition of hell.

226 TedStriker  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:41:38pm

re: #221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've been trying to remember...how long were the dump trucks hauling debris out of the WTC site.

5-6 months or so, IIRC...

227 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:41:48pm

re: #223 brennant

I just tuned in... who is the other woman?

Another idiot.

228 brookly red  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:42:21pm

re: #223 brennant

I just tuned in... who is the other woman?

isn't that the eternal question?

229 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:42:38pm

Clown show.

230 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:42:40pm

Ha! This is funny. Check out the picture they used of Geller:

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

231 researchok  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:42:42pm

Shriners.

Now there's fodder for controversy.

232 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:42:47pm

Pam melt down!

233 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:42:48pm

re: #215 Charles

My brain is beginning to hurt watching this.

Well, Sherlock Holmes is on Cinemax, if you need a diversion.

234 brennant  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:42:54pm

re: #227 marjoriemoon

Another idiot.

wink wink... nod nod... say no more. Say NO MORE! EH?

235 Capitalist Tool  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:42:55pm

George Washington studied Islam?


this guy is a clown

236 TedStriker  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:43:05pm

re: #222 marjoriemoon

Why do they let this man speak? To make fools out of Muslims? Fox is wicked.

I would have LOVED it had they had the brass balls to have gotten Imam Rauf on with Pamz for a little point/counter-point...

237 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:43:17pm

re: #229 Charles

Clown show.

It's a clown show with more make-up.

//

238 researchok  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:43:42pm

re: #230 Gus 802

Ha! This is funny. Check out the picture they used of Geller:

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

There they are, Pamela Geller.

239 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:43:48pm

I can't watch it anymore, not so close to bed time!

They didn't put Shabazz on there to make Geller look bad. They put him there to make Muslims look bad. Why didn't they find an imam or a community activist? Instead, they chose a Black Panther?

240 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:43:50pm

re: #229 Charles

I just for 2 minutes, but that's all it takes.

"Can I finish? Can I finish?"

241 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:43:56pm

re: #236 talon_262

I would have LOVED it had they had the brass balls to have gotten Imam Rauf on with Pamz for a little point/counter-point...

That would be a cunning stunt...

242 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:44:06pm

The Geller-thing started singing the Marine Corps Hymn.

243 Capitalist Tool  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:44:14pm

15 story middle finger to America

mwaaahaha

244 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:44:26pm

re: #234 brennant

wink wink... nod nod... say no more. Say NO MORE! EH?

lol I don't know. I put on a rerun of Seinfeld.

245 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:44:34pm

re: #242 Charles

The Geller-thing started singing the Marine Corps Hymn.

Just out of the blue?

246 Lidane  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:44:39pm

re: #242 Charles

Seriously? Wow.

247 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:44:48pm

re: #242 Charles

The Geller-thing started singing the Marine Corps Hymn.

As a Marine, I'm insulted.

248 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:44:50pm

re: #232 HoosierHoops

Pam melt down!

What else is new? She blows her stack so often you'd think she's Mount Vesuvius.

249 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:45:02pm

re: #236 talon_262

I would have LOVED it had they had the brass balls to have gotten Imam Rauf on with Pamz for a little point/counter-point...

Oh he'd bury her. She wouldn't know what hit her.

250 Cato the Elder  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:45:06pm

God willing, today is Pam's high water mark.

251 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:45:13pm

Montezuma is apparently next on her list.

252 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:45:14pm

re: #242 Charles

The Geller-thing started singing the Marine Corps Hymn.

Oh, dear.

253 Lidane  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:45:34pm

re: #240 jaunte

"Can I finish? Can I finish?"

Why am I hearing that in Ross Perot's voice?

Ugh.

254 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:45:39pm

re: #221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've been trying to remember...how long were the dump trucks hauling debris out of the WTC site.

I had a C-band satellite dish at the time. There was a live camera feed looking down at Ground Zero showing the clean up. It was on for months. I watched it sometimes just to make sure it was being cleaned up. I don't know why I thought that but I did.

255 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:45:49pm

re: #245 Gus 802

Just out of the blue?

When Malik Shabazz brought up Thomas Jefferson, she said, "Yeah, because he was fighting Islam!" and started singing "On the shores of Tripoli."

256 researchok  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:45:55pm

re: #250 Cato the Elder

God willing, today is Pam's high water mark.

Don't bet on it.

257 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:46:04pm

re: #242 Charles

The Geller-thing started singing the Marine Corps Hymn.

Please post the youtube of that when it's available. Sounds like the perfect sound-byte for mocking her.

258 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:46:08pm

re: #235 Capitalist Tool

George Washington studied Islam?

this guy is a clown

He might have done some reading when they were working on the Tripoli treaty. I doubt he ever considered converting, although he did say at one point that he would be happy to hire 'Mohametan' workers (along with a long list of other faiths or lack thereof).

259 TedStriker  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:46:38pm

re: #242 Charles

The Geller-thing started singing the Marine Corps Hymn.

Did she yell "the shores of Tripoli"?

/geezus, she just needs to be committed

260 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:46:40pm

re: #146 Charles

Now she's claiming 30,000.

Hah!

*urp!*

261 webevintage  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:46:47pm

re: #203 Lidane

My other issue with Avatar? The 3D was overwhelming. I was dizzy and nauseous with a killer headache, and for hours after seeing the film, not because of the awful story and cheesy dialogue, but because of the barrage of effects. Ugh. Never again.

I can't do 3D either.
I hope it will just be a fad like last time around.

262 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:47:05pm

re: #242 Charles

The Geller-thing started singing the Marine Corps Hymn.

Laughing again. "From the halls of Montezuma, to the shore of Tripoli"?

263 researchok  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:47:26pm

re: #255 Charles

When Malik Shabazz brought up Thomas Jefferson, she said, "Yeah, because he was fighting Islam!" and started singing "On the shores of Tripoli."

I missed that. I was laughing at the Shriners remarks.

I thought it was just the Freemasons that were part of the grand conspiracy.

264 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:47:28pm

re: #239 marjoriemoon

I can't watch it anymore, not so close to bed time!

They didn't put Shabazz on there to make Geller look bad. They put him there to make Muslims look bad. Why didn't they find an imam or a community activist? Instead, they chose a Black Panther?

Because if they put on a sane person, he'd wipe the floor with Geller, after which many wingnuts would change the channel. Shabazz vs. Geller supplies plenty of WWE-type drama.

265 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:47:44pm

re: #154 Charles

She must be seething right now, big time.

Yup. Time to hit the bottle. Four shots of Grey Goose can fix almost any problem.

266 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:47:53pm

re: #255 Charles

When Malik Shabazz brought up Thomas Jefferson, she said, "Yeah, because he was fighting Islam!" and started singing "On the shores of Tripoli."

Oh brother. That's like something of a local cable access channel.

267 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:48:03pm

That show is over. I can't watch another 9-11 show. That was enough for a while.

268 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:48:13pm

re: #255 Charles

When Malik Shabazz brought up Thomas Jefferson, she said, "Yeah, because he was fighting Islam!" and started singing "On the shores of Tripoli."

No, the treaty that, IIRC, he drafted, makes it pretty clear he wasn't fighting Islam, he just didn't want any more American ships boarded. He was kind of finicky about that point.

269 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:48:53pm

re: #267 NJDhockeyfan

Don't, my friend. Just don't.

270 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:49:08pm

re: #255 Charles

When Malik Shabazz brought up Thomas Jefferson, she said, "Yeah, because he was fighting Islam!" and started singing "On the shores of Tripoli."

Sickening. She lacks all perspective and noble words sound foul in her mouth.

271 brookly red  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:49:18pm

re: #268 SanFranciscoZionist

No, the treaty that, IIRC, he drafted, makes it pretty clear he wasn't fighting Islam, he just didn't want any more American ships boarded. He was kind of finicky about that point.

hmmmmm....

272 Henchman 25  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:49:54pm

re: #264 Dark_Falcon

Exactly, plus it would conflict with the narrative they're selling.

273 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:49:55pm

re: #270 Dark_Falcon

Sickening. She lacks all perspective and noble words sound foul in from her mouth.

I wouldn't want to get "in" her mouth...

274 Cato the Elder  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:50:42pm

re: #255 Charles

The mind doth boggle.

275 engineer cat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:50:44pm

re: #268 SanFranciscoZionist

No, the treaty that, IIRC, he drafted, makes it pretty clear he wasn't fighting Islam, he just didn't want any more American ships boarded. He was kind of finicky about that point.

ah, me loves teh internets:

Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen,—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

276 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:51:31pm

re: #267 NJDhockeyfan

hey... my nic is blue... email me...

277 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:51:50pm

re: #268 SanFranciscoZionist

No, the treaty that, IIRC, he drafted, makes it pretty clear he wasn't fighting Islam, he just didn't want any more American ships boarded. He was kind of finicky about that point.

Yeah, but the real Thomas Jefferson was too complex for Pam's limited IQ to process. So like Sarah Palin, she retreats into slogans.

278 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:51:58pm

Obviously Pam fails to realize the Marine Corps actually worked with Muslims during the Tripoli campaign.

Damn historical facts getting in the way again.

279 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:52:12pm

Looks like a Saudi official is in trouble...

Saudi diplomat seeking asylum: 'My life is in danger'

A ranking Saudi diplomat told NBC News that he has asked for political asylum in the United States, saying he fears for his life if he is forced to return to his native country.

The diplomat, Ali Ahmad Asseri, the first secretary of the Saudi consulate in Los Angeles, has informed U.S. Department of Homeland Security officials that Saudi officials have refused to renew his diplomatic passport and effectively terminated his job after discovering he was gay and was close friends with a Jewish woman.

In a recent letter that he posted on a Saudi website, Asseri angrily criticized his country’s “backwardness” as well as the role of “militant imams” in Saudi society who have “defaced the tolerance of Islam.” Perhaps most provocatively of all, he has threatened to expose what he describes as politically embarrassing information about members of the Saudi royal family living in luxury in the U.S.

If he is forced to go back to Saudi Arabia — as Saudi officials are demanding — Asseri says he could face political persecution and even death.

“My life is in a great danger here and if I go back to Saudi Arabia, they will kill me openly in broad daylight,” Asseri said Saturday in an email to NBC.

This could get interesting.

280 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:52:58pm

re: #275 engineer dog

ah, me loves teh internets:

Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen,—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

That would never have made it in if Pam had been able to get Jefferson's administration a set of Robert Spencer's books.

281 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:53:46pm

re: #195 SanFranciscoZionist

Which is kind of cool. When we did Greek mythology in my ninth grade class, I used to have the kids watch sections of 'Clash of the Titans' and 'Jason and the Argonauts', and tell them that this was what really great special effects looked like when Mrs. SFZ was a little girl.

"Jason and the Argonauts" is one of my all-time favorite movies. It's a masterpiece in every possible way. If you're showing that to your students with satisfactory results, I think they could probably learn some things from The Elephant Man, too...

282 Girth  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:53:58pm

Well at least next time that I'm tempted to turn on Geraldo I'll remember the night of 9/11/10 and just keep watching football instead, or watch paint dry, or slam my hand in a door, or whatever less painful and/or more interesting activity that I can think of than what I just witnessed.

283 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:54:10pm

re: #164 Charles

Sudden cut to commercial.

Meanwhile Dave Weigel just tweeted this:

Gingrich is going all the way.

That'll go viral. It's the kind of thing that could end a few careers.

284 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:54:17pm

Ooh! La Nina bodes for a pretty mild winter for the SouthEast.

After last year? I'll take it.

285 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:54:20pm

Battle of Derne

In 1804, the former Consul to Tunis, William Eaton, returned to the Mediterranean with the title of Naval Agent to the Barbary States. Eaton had been granted permission from the United States government to back the claim of Hamet Karamanli. Hamet Karamanli was the rightful heir to the throne of Tripoli and had been deposed by his brother Yussif Karamanli. Upon his return to the area, Eaton sought out Hamet Karamanli who was in exile in Egypt. Upon locating him, Eaton made a proposal to reinstate him on the throne. The exile agreed to Eaton's plan.[citation needed]

Commodore Samuel Barron, the new naval commander in the Mediterranean, provided Eaton with naval support from the USS Nautilus, the USS Hornet and the USS Argus. The three vessels were to provide offshore bombardment support. The Nautilus was commanded by Oliver Hazard Perry, the Hornet was commanded by Samuel Evans, and the Argus was commanded by Isaac Hull.[citation needed]

A detachment of U.S. Marines was given to Eaton under the command of Lieutenant Presley O’Bannon. Eaton and Hull made their base of operations at Alexandria, Egypt. There, with the help of Hamet Karamanli, they recruited about 500 Arab, Greek and Berber mercenaries. Eaton named himself general and commander-in-chief of the combined force.[citation needed]

General Eaton now led his army on a 500-mile trek across the Libyan desert. Their objective was the port city of Derne, the capital of the province of Cyrenaica. Supplies and money were promised to the largely mercenary force when they reached the city. During the 50-day trek Eaton became concerned with the relationship between the Christians and the roughly 200 or 300 Muslim mercenaries in his force. On several occasions mutiny threatened the success of the expedition. The force finally reached the port city of Bomba in late April, up the coast from Derne, where the Argus, the Nautilus and the Hornet along with Captain Hull were waiting. There Eaton and his force received supplies and money to pay the mercenaries.

286 avanti  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:56:36pm

re: #235 Capitalist Tool

George Washington studied Islam?

this guy is a clown

Not that I know of, but he would have been against dissing other faiths IMHO. Here's his order about burning the Pope in effigy:

General Order of November 5, 1775 illustrate this fact:

"As the Commander in Chief has been apprized of a design form'd for the observance of that ridiculous and childish custom of burning the Effigy of the pope -- He cannot help expressing his surprise that there should be Officers and Soldiers in this army so void of common sense, as not to see the impropriety of such a step at this Juncture; at a Time when we are solliciting, and have really obtain'd, the friendship and alliance of the people of Canada, whom we ought to consider as Brethren embarked in the same Cause. The defence of the general Liberty of America: At such a juncture, and in such Circumstances, to be insulting their Religion, is so monstrous, as not to be suffered or excused; indeed instead of offering the most remote insult, it is our duty to address public thanks to these our Brethren, as to them we are so much indebted for every late happy Success over the common Enemy in Canada."

287 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:56:38pm

re: #279 NJDhockeyfan

Looks like a Saudi official is in trouble...

Saudi diplomat seeking asylum: 'My life is in danger'

This could get interesting.

Hopefully, he'll get asylum. The Saudis can whine about not getting their bit of fun in murdering him, and the wingnuts can whine about him being gay. It's a win/win situation.

288 aorist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:58:10pm

re: #74 Bubblehead II

Welcome Hatchling. If you have been lurking as long as you claim, bring me a drink.

Johnnie Walker ok? It's all I have this evening; you're welcome to a glass.

289 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:58:28pm

I am honored to have spent much of this day on this site.

Good evening, my fine lizard friends...

290 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:59:07pm

re: #286 avanti

Not that I know of, but he would have been against dissing other faiths IMHO. Here's his order about burning the Pope in effigy:

General Order of November 5, 1775 illustrate this fact:

"As the Commander in Chief has been apprized of a design form'd for the observance of that ridiculous and childish custom of burning the Effigy of the pope -- He cannot help expressing his surprise that there should be Officers and Soldiers in this army so void of common sense, as not to see the impropriety of such a step at this Juncture; at a Time when we are solliciting, and have really obtain'd, the friendship and alliance of the people of Canada, whom we ought to consider as Brethren embarked in the same Cause. The defence of the general Liberty of America: At such a juncture, and in such Circumstances, to be insulting their Religion, is so monstrous, as not to be suffered or excused; indeed instead of offering the most remote insult, it is our duty to address public thanks to these our Brethren, as to them we are so much indebted for every late happy Success over the common Enemy in Canada."

Note the date. The burning of the Pope in effigy was in lieu of burning an effigy of Guy Fawkes. In some parts of England, the effigy continued being that of the pope till World War I.

291 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:59:07pm

re: #285 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Interesting ending:
The Battle of Derne was the first recorded land battle of the United States on foreign soil after the American Revolutionary War.[1] The battle was the decisive action of the First Barbary War, although Eaton was angered by what he called a 'sell-out' between Consul Lear and the bey. Hamet returned to Egypt and the mercenaries were never fully paid.

292 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:01:41pm

I wonder what people like Geller would say to the fact that during the Cold War that we took the side of Muslims in Afghanistan over the Soviets. Oh wait to Geller and those like her, Muslims and commies are the same thing, my bad.

293 prairiefire  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:02:21pm

"Of all the 14K saps starting out a caper with a woman and a dog..." "High Sierra" is on TCM.

294 lostlakehiker  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:03:02pm

re: #209 SanFranciscoZionist

She's trying to figure out a way to suggest that the Muslims did it.

Can I suggest that maybe we blame the utility? They had been warned repeatedly, over a span of weeks. This resembles, in miniature thank goodness, the story of that train accident in Russia some decade or so ago in which a train went through a valley that had become saturated with natural gas from a major leak.

There had been endless warnings and everybody had had ample chance to act. But nooooo. So, boom.

295 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:03:07pm

re: #275 engineer dog

JEFFRERSON WAS A RINO COMMUNIST SOCIALIST LIBTARD WHO MIGHT HAVE HAD A THANG FOR THE SWEET, SWEET DARK CHOCOLATE BOOTIE OF SALLY HEMINGS WHICH WE WILL NOT TALK ABOUT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.

296 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:04:59pm

re: #287 Dark_Falcon

Hopefully, he'll get asylum. The Saudis can whine about not getting their bit of fun in murdering him, and the wingnuts can whine about him being gay. It's a win/win situation.

You left out the moonbats whining about him being close friends with a Jew.

297 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:10:51pm

re: #276 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

hey... my nic is blue... email me...

Done.

298 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:12:03pm

re: #279 NJDhockeyfan

Looks like a Saudi official is in trouble...

Saudi diplomat seeking asylum: 'My life is in danger'

This could get interesting.

My mom mentioned that when she called. We have family in LA, and apparently her first thought was to wonder if his Jewish friend might be her sister. It seems like the kind of thing my Tante Leah would get involved with.

299 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:12:10pm

re: #296 NJDhockeyfan

You left out the moonbats whining about him being close friends with a Jew.

I highly doubt any moonbats are going to complain about this guy getting asylum. I am not defending moonbats' bullshit bias against Israel but it's not in their nature to oppose asylum for a man for being friends with a Jewish woman.

300 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:15:34pm

re: #296 NJDhockeyfan

You left out the moonbats whining about him being close friends with a Jew.

The friend may herself be a moonbat.

301 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:24:20pm

re: #288 aorist

Johnnie Walker ok? It's all I have this evening; you're welcome to a glass.

Give the old lizard a shot of Walker and let me welcome you with a homemade slice of banana cream pie.

302 ErikJ76  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 11:46:04pm

re: #283 Killgore Trout

That'll go viral. It's the kind of thing that could end a few careers.

Newt just wants to have a chance to win the republican primary 2012.

That primary will be fun to watch. Unless the GOP either gets lots of mainstream republicans to vote in it to balance out the insane teabaggers, or ends up actually fixing it, the chosen candidate will not have a chance in hell against Obama.

303 ClaudeMonet  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 12:09:56am

re: #90 HappyWarrior

Mommy? That's weird. Over my beers I had with my dinner tonight I was thinking about for me what a year of contradictions 2001 was for me on a personal level and of course as an American. In 2001 my youngest brother was born and he's almost like a surrogate son to me. He looks up to me and I'm very protective of him. That same year my godmother who was just about the most kindest woman you could have known passed away. And of course 9-11 which we all know and then there was the jubliation I felt starting high school that year. It was a crazy time to be 14.

It was a crazy time to be any age. Kind of like myself at age "almost 8" when JFK was shot, 12 when RFK and MLK were shot, 30 when Challenger blew up.

Plus, as you know now, 14 is a crazy age, period.

Purely by coincidence, I flew to Florida on family business (collecting some of my late father's stuff and bringing his car north) on 9/11/02. Very tense, very somber at the airports that day. I later realized that perhaps subconsciously, I was doing the right thing--being an American and going about my business. Perhaps it was because of a conversation we'd had when it happened, and his view that "If you change your life because you fear bastards like those, they win."

304 ClaudeMonet  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 12:16:25am

re: #162 SteelPH

For once, Geraldo's being awesome.

Once in a very long while, he reverts to the original Geraldo. He was a good guy before he decided that he was the news instead of simply a reporter.

Or perhaps he just seems sane compared to his guests.

305 ClaudeMonet  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 12:20:14am

re: #179 Gus 802

Dances With Wolves in space! That's funny. Sort of like Star Trek was sometimes called Gunsmoke in space.

Even when I was young and a liberal (small l), I called Star Trek "Liberals In Space". It was meant as a compliment, believe it or not.

Although I always felt that if I were on the Enterprise, I'd be the guy in the red shirt who gets eliminated by the Alien-Of-The-Week in the first three minutes.

306 ModeratelyRight  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 12:49:01am
“Listen to Mommy,” she said

Oh yeah, she's nuttier than a snickers bar.

Listen to...Mommy?

Oh Dear.

307 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 7:41:48am

re: #156 NJDhockeyfan

They just showed the second tower go down. Goddamn fucking Islamic terrorist cocksucking SOBs! Dammit!

I'd take out the 'Islamic' myself. Islam wasn't the reason they did what they did. It was their excuse.

308 JRCMYP  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 4:38:31pm

re: #27 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

To be fair, Pam was probably too drunk to get a really accurate count.

Is she really an alcoholic? I only ask because it seems to be repeated so often.

309 wrenchwench  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 4:50:32pm

re: #308 JRCMYP

Is she really an alcoholic? I only ask because it seems to be repeated so often.

Here's a comment I made on that topic yesterday.

310 JRCMYP  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 4:52:20pm

re: #309 wrenchwench

Here's a comment I made on that topic yesterday.

Niiiiice. She's gross.

311 theblakester  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 9:18:12pm

Whether it was 400 or 40,000, I find it sad that the media wouldn't cover this event. They some how want to silence this event as to not incite, or acknowledge it's existence. Though they have no problem showing the Palestinians, Pakistani's or whoever protesting and burning our flag. Sad state of our media trying to control the message. Can't wait till November!

312 tnguitarist  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:18:22am

re: #311 theblakester

Whether it was 400 or 40,000, I find it sad that the media wouldn't cover this event. They some how want to silence this event as to not incite, or acknowledge it's existence. Though they have no problem showing the Palestinians, Pakistani's or whoever protesting and burning our flag. Sad state of our media trying to control the message. Can't wait till November!

You trip over your own thoughts. Would you rather them not show Palestinians burning our flag? Seems you would want to know what they are up to.

Media controlling the message? That's rich. Let me guess, you set your dvr to record every second of Beck.

313 rumcrook  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 3:28:15pm

im looking at the picture and and I would say its not fair to say it was 1,000 people.

facts and opinion are two different things and it looks like the fact is its a lot more than 1,000 what ever the real number is.

314 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 3:34:24pm

re: #313 rumcrook

You got your photo from Geller, is that where you get your facts? Why not go ahead and just claim 40,000 like she did?


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