Newt Gingrich: Obama Has a ‘Kenyan Worldview’

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Uh oh.

Citing a recent Forbes article by Dinesh D’Souza, former House speaker Newt Gingrich tells National Review Online that President Obama may follow “Kenyan, anti-colonial” worldview.

Gingrich says that D’Souza has made a “stunning insight” into Obama’s behavior — the “most profound insight I have read in the last six years about Barack Obama.”

“What if [Obama] is so outside our comprehension, that only if you understand Kenyan, anti-colonial behavior, can you begin to piece [his actions]?” Gingrich asks. “That is the most accurate, predicative model for his behavior.”

“This is a person who is fundamentally out of touch with how the world works, who happened to have played a wonderful con, as a result of which he is now president,” Gingrich tells us.

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331 comments
1 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:59:43pm

What the fuck is a "Kenyan worldview" Newt? And it's obvious to anyone with a brain taht Newt is playing to race here. Highly doubt he would say this about a white politician.

2 Henchman 25  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:00:10pm

Nothin' look good old fashioned race baiting in the evening....
Ugh.

3 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:00:38pm

Nice nod to the Nirthers, Newt. You choad.

4 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:01:03pm

Don't just dip your toe into stupidity, Newt...dive right in. Dumb fuck.

5 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:01:26pm

What's more American than an anti-colonial worldview?

6 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:01:29pm

“If you look at the continuous denial of reality, there has got to be a point where someone stands up and says that this is just factually insane.”

pot/kettle

7 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:01:44pm

Isn't he about due to rotate wives again?

8 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:02:31pm

It's like they're getting crazier by the minute.

9 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:02:40pm

re: #5 jaunte

What's more American than an anti-colonial worldview?

Yes! Considering that we got our independence from the world's then greatest colonial power.

10 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:03:18pm

re: #7 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Isn't he about due to rotate wives again?

Maybe he should embrace Islam. Then he could have four of them.

///

11 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:03:25pm

Palin/Newt 2012: Because Obama's a Kenyan, you betcha!

12 brookly red  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:04:20pm

/well as a conservative I find that much less of a problem then a Chicagoland world view... just saying.

13 McSpiff  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:04:36pm

Newt Gingrich - Supporting Imperialism since 2010.

14 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:05:03pm

What the hell does that even mean, Newt?

15 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:05:16pm

All those Teapartiers with tricorne hats must be secret royalists.

16 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:05:28pm

re: #14 Varek Raith

What the hell does that even mean, Newt?

It hits all the buzzwords.

17 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:06:07pm

re: #12 brookly red

/well as a conservative I find that much less of a problem then a Chicagoland world view... just saying.

You talking smack about my hometown, New Yorker?

18 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:06:10pm

By the way, Newt also repeats the bullshit about Obama "conning" the US public. Seriously does he think we're dummies because we voted for Obama over McCain, a man many in Newt's mindset don't think is conservative enough. Imagine that Newt that many of us voted for Obama because we liked him over McCain and thought he would make a good president. I'd vote for Obama again over McCain and I have no regrets about doing so.

19 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:06:10pm

I have little doubt now that Newt's setting himself up for a 2012 run. He seems to have decided that cornering the wingnut market is the immediate goal.

20 brookly red  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:06:56pm

re: #17 Dark_Falcon

You talking smack about my hometown, New Yorker?

pizza should not be eaten with a spoon!

21 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:07:28pm

Axis of Evil, 2002: Iran, Iraq, North Korea
Axis of Evil, 2010: Chicago, Hawaii, Kenya

22 Lidane  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:07:38pm

Dear Newt--

Why not just admit you think he's uppity and that having a black president offends your delicate sensibilities? At least then you'd be honest.

Also, way to pander to the Klan, asshole. The fact that you're saying this shit about the President of the United States should make you ashamed of yourself, at least if you weren't such a sleazy, opportunistic political whore.

In short, STFU and STFD you washed up, miserable hack. You'll never be president, but at the rate you're going, you'll end up getting Obama a second term. When that happens, I'll laugh my ass off at you and the other bigots.

No love,
Me

23 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:09:16pm

re: #20 brookly red

pizza should not be eaten with a spoon!

The correct way to eat pizza is to fold the crust and begin eating it from the pointed end. Chicago pizza is not real pizza.

24 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:11:17pm

So, here's D'Souza's big 'anti-colonialist' insight, bolded:

Colonialism today is a dead issue. No one cares about it except the man in the White House. He is the last anticolonial. Emerging market economies such as China, India, Chile and Indonesia have solved the problem of backwardness; they are exploiting their labor advantage and growing much faster than the U.S. If America is going to remain on top, we have to compete in an increasingly tough environment.

But instead of readying us for the challenge, our President is trapped in his father's time machine. Incredibly, the U.S. is being ruled according to the dreams of a Luo tribesman of the 1950s. This philandering, inebriated African socialist, who raged against the world for denying him the realization of his anticolonial ambitions, is now setting the nation's agenda through the reincarnation of his dreams in his son. The son makes it happen, but he candidly admits he is only living out his father's dream. The invisible father provides the inspiration, and the son dutifully gets the job done. America today is governed by a ghost.

25 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:11:34pm

re: #20 brookly red

pizza should not be eaten with a spoon!

A knife and fork is proper, unless it's crappy pizza with almost nothing on it, then you can fold it over, roll it up, or wad it into a ball before eating it.

26 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:11:37pm

Link: [Link: www.forbes.com...]

27 brookly red  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:11:42pm

re: #23 NJDhockeyfan

The correct way to eat pizza is to fold the crust and begin eating it from the pointed end. Chicago pizza is not real pizza.

I want to make Kenyan pizza jokes, but I don't think this it the time & for sure not the place...

28 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:11:51pm

re: #23 NJDhockeyfan

The correct way to eat pizza is to fold the crust and begin eating it from the pointed end. Chicago pizza is not real pizza.

I much prefer thin crust myself. I am from Chicago, but I dislike deep-dish pizza. It's too likely to end up on my shirt.

29 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:11:59pm

But I thought Newt loved getting involved in African politics though;

Newt Gingrich Teams With Anti-Gay Zealot Lou 'Uganda' Engle For U.S. Cyber-'Revival'

30 brookly red  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:12:19pm

re: #25 darthstar

A knife and fork is proper, unless it's crappy pizza with almost nothing on it, then you can fold it over, roll it up, or wad it into a ball before eating it.

infidel

31 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:12:47pm

re: #30 brookly red

infidel

I like pineapple on pizza, too.

32 Randall Gross  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:12:55pm

Newt: blowing the Nirther dog whistle with steam....

33 Four More Tears  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:12:57pm

re: #12 brookly red

/well as a conservative I find that much less of a problem then a Chicagoland world view... just saying.

Gotta get that Obama dig in there somehow, don't you?

34 nines09  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:13:42pm

Newt should know wonderful cons. He's pulled a few. Schmuck.

35 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:13:59pm

re: #31 darthstar

I like pineapple on pizza, too.

Don't ever show your face in a pizza place in Chicago or New York. You'd end up leaving feet first.

36 Randall Gross  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:14:25pm

This just tells me that the GOP is more desperate than they act for this next election.

37 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:14:59pm

So basically Gingrich is inadvertently arguing that Kenya should have remained a British colony under British rule (and at one time German rule) against the will of the Kenyan people. This is almost like those that were recently saying that Haiti should have remained under French rule.

38 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:15:03pm

re: #33 JasonA

Gotta get that Obama dig in there somehow, don't you?

Just don't diss the south.
:P

39 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:15:10pm

I'm going to go get some Thai pizza with popcorn on it and watch the NY vs ChiTown pizza flounce!

40 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:15:28pm

re: #31 darthstar

I like pineapple on pizza, too.

BURN THE WITCH!

///

41 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:15:41pm

re: #31 darthstar

I like pineapple on pizza, too.

Eww...I like bacon, pepperoni, sausage, etc. Basically meat with maybe some mushrooms, peppers, or onions. Fruit doesn't belong.

42 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:16:04pm

re: #38 Varek Raith

Just don't diss the south.
:P


Didn't they invent pineapple pizza?

43 Lidane  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:16:18pm

re: #24 jaunte

I knew there was a reason I've never had a use for Dinesh D'Souza. God, what an idiot. I feel dumber for having read that. =P

44 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:16:44pm

re: #36 Thanos

This just tells me that the GOP is more desperate than they act for this next election.

They're already looking towards 2012, which despite all their bluster, they know is not in the bag. Mid-terms always mean the party in the White House loses seats. But there are no guarantee that Obama can't pull off a miracle or two between now and then.

45 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:16:46pm

re: #37 Gus 802

So basically Gingrich is inadvertently arguing that Kenya should have remained a British colony under British rule (and at one time German rule) against the will of the Kenyan people. This is almost like those that were recently saying that Haiti should have remained under French rule.

Since Newt doesn't actually say anything in that little diatribe, that's about as good as any.

46 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:16:47pm

re: #35 Dark_Falcon

Don't ever show your face in a pizza place in Chicago or New York. You'd end up leaving feet first.

I love New York pizza. I also love Chicago style pizza. When I lived in Fiji, ham & pineapple pizzas were the best thing they made (to a then 15 year old). I make all sorts of pizzas. Corn-meal crust(bacon & egg with bechamel sauce), whole wheat crust (sausage, pesto, whatever), thick crust (clams, prawns, meat & veggie, etc)...

47 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:16:56pm

re: #36 Thanos

This just tells me that the GOP is more desperate than they act for this next election.

Talks of the Dems demise are greatly exaggerated. I think the needle will bump but it's not going to be the carnage predicted.

48 brookly red  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:17:05pm

re: #33 JasonA

Gotta get that Obama dig in there somehow, don't you?

no actually I prefer to sit back and watch it crumbel

49 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:17:11pm

re: #43 Lidane

It's a lot of words to wrap a short guilt-by-family-association slur in.

50 Cineaste  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:17:38pm

Wait, he is "so fundamentally out of touch with how the world works" that he won the Presidency of the United States with the widest majority in a couple generations? That sounds like someone who is pretty in touch with how the world works.

51 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:17:41pm

re: #39 BigPapa

I'm going to go get some Thai pizza with popcorn on it and watch the NY vs ChiTown pizza flounce!

There's an Indian restaurant on Mission at 33rd in San Francisco that makes a great Indian-style pizza (veggies and a curry sauce...fuckin' tasty).

52 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:17:42pm

re: #37 Gus 802

So basically Gingrich is inadvertently arguing that Kenya should have remained a British colony under British rule (and at one time German rule) against the will of the Kenyan people. This is almost like those that were recently saying that Haiti should have remained under French rule.

Actually, Kenya was always under British rule. It was Tanzania (as German East Africa) that was controlled by the kaiser.

53 Cato the Elder  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:17:48pm

So, Newtie is "pro-colonial"?

Fascinating.

54 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:17:55pm

I'm looking forward to Beck, Limbaugh and Palin defending this remark. Could be big fun.

55 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:18:17pm

re: #51 darthstar

There's an Indian restaurant on Mission at 33rd in San Francisco that makes a great Indian-style pizza (veggies and a curry sauce...fuckin' tasty).

No meat?

56 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:18:20pm

re: #53 Cato the Elder

So, Newtie is "pro-colonial"?

Fascinating.

Newt's more pre-colonial.

57 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:18:23pm

re: #50 Cineaste

Wait, he is "so fundamentally out of touch with how the world works" that he won the Presidency of the United States with the widest majority in a couple generations? That sounds like someone who is pretty in touch with how the world works.

Quite the cunning ruse, eh?

58 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:18:35pm

re: #45 marjoriemoon

Since Newt doesn't actually say anything in that little diatribe, that's about as good as any.

Yeah. I'm assuming Newt is saying "Obama's bad" because his thinking is "anti-colonialist" like "they were in colonial Kenya." Therefore, being anti-colonial is a bad thing.

59 Cineaste  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:18:58pm

re: #52 Dark_Falcon

Actually, Kenya was always under British rule. It was Tanzania (as German East Africa) that was controlled by the kaiser.

And if we're really going to split hairs. I think it was just Tanganyika that was German East Africa. Zanzibar was separate IIRC.

60 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:19:08pm

re: #47 BigPapa

Talks of the Dems demise are greatly exaggerated. I think the needle will bump but it's not going to be the carnage predicted.

If the primaries are any indication, there is an anti-incumbent undertone to this election, but not one that will spare the GOP in entirety. They'll pick up some seats, eat up the Dems majority in Congress, perhaps even take a house. But they're gonna find a lot of elections not going their way and that's got the potential to make them even loonier.

61 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:19:08pm

re: #52 Dark_Falcon

Actually, Kenya was always under British rule. It was Tanzania (as German East Africa) that was controlled by the kaiser.

OK, nix the Germans then.

62 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:19:30pm

re: #53 Cato the Elder

So, Newtie is "pro-colonial"?

Fascinating.

Well, I think he's more worried about black people taking things from white people. As far as I know Kenya has had a pretty tolerant and peaceful post-colonial period.

63 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:19:31pm

Gingrich 2012: Kinder, Küche, Kirche

64 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:19:39pm

Three cheers for British colonial rule of Kenya!

Gee. I wonder what Newt really thinks about the American Revolution.

65 Cineaste  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:19:50pm

re: #53 Cato the Elder

So, Newtie is "pro-colonial"?

Fascinating.

But of course. Our founding fathers were colonists...

Oh wait. /

66 engineer cat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:20:04pm

Kenyan worldview

is there some kind of competition going on this year among wingnuts to see who can peddle the most ridiculous bullshit before the suckers stop swallowing it?

67 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:20:05pm

re: #61 Gus 802

OK, nix the Germans then.

What? But they bombed Pearl Harbor!

/

68 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:20:24pm

re: #58 Gus 802

Yeah. I'm assuming Newt is saying "Obama's bad" because his thinking is "anti-colonialist" like "they were in colonial Kenya." Therefore, being anti-colonial is a bad thing.

The thing is, the people listening to that mess will have no idea what he's talking about, only that it sounds good in their own agendas, birthers, etc.

69 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:20:25pm

re: #28 Dark_Falcon

I much prefer thin crust myself. I am from Chicago, but I dislike deep-dish pizza. It's too likely to end up on my shirt.

Everybody hates me and I don't care..
I order thin crust Veggie pizzas with extra everything and tomatoes and extra pineapples..No ham thank you...
I don't care... Lizards freak out..I don't care...That's my pizza
/It even disgusts Charles...( Extra Pineapples Charles!)
LOL

70 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:20:31pm

re: #51 darthstar

There's an Indian restaurant on Mission at 33rd in San Francisco that makes a great Indian-style pizza (veggies and a curry sauce...fuckin' tasty).

Too far for me but I miss Bay Area food. No Indian food where I live, became spoiled on that when I lived in Fremont for 3 years.

I was in Sydney and had a tandoori pizza with mint sauce on top, that was screamin good.

71 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:20:34pm

re: #67 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

What? But they bombed Pearl Harbor!

/

That was the Jews.
/

72 brookly red  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:20:37pm

re: #56 darthstar

Newt's more pre-colonial.

I don't know why but I expect the next big fast food wave to be Newts Fried Chicken...

73 Max  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:21:00pm

re: #24 jaunte

I'm confused. Is he saying that Obama's father is an "African socialist" or is he talking about Obama himself?

I'm confused by the "dreams of his son" part. As far as I know, Barack Obama doesn't have a son.

Still, Mr. D'Souza is using very choppy sentence structure. He's a terrible writer.

74 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:21:07pm

re: #64 Gus 802

Three cheers for British colonial rule of Kenya!

Gee. I wonder what Newt really thinks about the American Revolution.

Good point. I suspect the difference between the Kenyans and Americans in Newt's mind is purely racial.

75 Cineaste  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:21:35pm

re: #57 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Quite the cunning ruse, eh?

It's like the truthers. The US Government can't keep a prison in Cuba secret but somehow they were able to secretly blow up a wide swath of downtown New York and in 10 years no one's ever leaked... sure... that's the more probably scenario...//

76 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:22:02pm

re: #73 Max D. Reinhardt

He's trying to say (clumsily) that Obama is his father. Kenyan, socialist, philandering, drunk.

77 Lidane  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:22:13pm

re: #66 engineer dog

]is there some kind of competition going on this year among wingnuts to see who can peddle the most ridiculous bullshit before the suckers stop swallowing it?

Pfft. That's been going on since John McCain forced Caribou Barbie on the rest of us and ended up getting curbstomped for it at the polls. The right went crazy as soon as the votes were counted and Obama won, and they've shown no signs of slowing down since then.

78 Cineaste  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:22:58pm

I think Newt is taking word salad language classes from Ms. Palin.

79 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:23:15pm

re: #60 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yes, that's my call too. It's not going to go as good as they're crowing. There's always anti-incumbent sentiment when times suck and inherent distrust of one party with all 3 seats. But that's the best thing going for the GOP.

80 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:23:36pm

re: #59 Cineaste

And if we're really going to split hairs. I think it was just Tanganyika that was German East Africa. Zanzibar was separate IIRC.

Correct. Zanzibar was British. In 1914, the German cruiser Konigsberg surprised and sank the British cruiser in Zanzibar harbor.

81 Lidane  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:24:12pm

re: #67 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

What? But they bombed Pearl Harbor!

/

Youtube Video
82 Cineaste  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:25:08pm

re: #80 Dark_Falcon

Correct. Zanzibar was British. In 1914, the German cruiser Konigsberg surprised and sank the British cruiser in Zanzibar harbor.

Of course that doesn't matter. Newt will hate Zanzibar either way because it is predominantly Muslim. Dating back to the Omani empire in the later part of the first millenium but hey, what's a little history to the good professor Gingrich.

83 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:25:36pm

re: #79 BigPapa

Yes, that's my call too. It's not going to go as good as they're crowing. There's always anti-incumbent sentiment when times suck and inherent distrust of one party with all 3 seats. But that's the best thing going for the GOP.

Ayep. As much as they'd like to believe otherwise, anti-Bush sentiment has not gone totally away. Folks may have started holding Obama responsible for not ending the recession, but they still know who started it. And while there will be a "throw the bums out!" sentiment amongst voters, many will be hesitant to throw their own bums out.

84 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:25:47pm

Heh...(from dKos)...Good news in Nevada:

NV-Sen: Ashjian to stay on the ballot following judge's ruling
Conservative efforts to knock Tea Party candidate Scott Ashjian off of the ballot in the high-profile Nevada Senate race were tossed aside on Thursday, as Judge James Wilson noted that the complaint had been filed well past the deadline for challenging candidates. The plaintiffs had argued that they sent a letter to the Secretary of State complaining that Ashjian had insufficient signatures. Unfortunately, that was not the same thing as filing an official challenge, which the conservative groups had neglected to do until a full nine weeks past the deadline.
85 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:26:33pm

re: #76 jaunte

He's trying to say (clumsily) that Obama is his father. Kenyan, socialist, philandering, drunk.

I think he succeeded in saying it, I heard him loud and clear. Yikes!

I'll have a nice callous on my chin from my jaw dropping repeatedly over the last 18 months. I actually liked Newt in a previous life. This is just nucking futs.

86 Kruk  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:26:47pm

re: #75 Cineaste

It's like the truthers. The US Government can't keep a prison in Cuba secret but somehow they were able to secretly blow up a wide swath of downtown New York and in 10 years no one's ever leaked... sure... that's the more probably scenario...//

Strangely, it's the people who whole heartedly believe Bush was a knuckle dragging moron who couldn't tie his own shoes without help who also believe he was the evil mastermind behind 9/11.

Mind you, Obama goes one better. He somehow manages to be a secret Muslim, an acolyte of a radical Black church *and* a godless Communist all at the same time.

87 brookly red  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:27:54pm

re: #80 Dark_Falcon

Correct. Zanzibar was British. In 1914, the German cruiser Konigsberg surprised and sank the British cruiser in Zanzibar harbor.

Konigsberg isn't a crusier, it is a lager...

88 Cato the Elder  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:28:22pm

Dinesh: every racist's favorite cabana boy.

89 Max  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:28:23pm

If I was running the 2012 Republican Convention, well one, I'd be a sekrit Mooslem and two, I'd do everything in my power to keep Newt of the podium, if not off the party ticket.

90 Lidane  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:28:26pm

re: #83 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

And while there will be a "throw the bums out!" sentiment amongst voters, many will be hesitant to throw their own bums out.

That's pretty much always the case. People think that Congress is made up of a bunch of corrupt, sleazy fat cats who should be bounced out on their ass-- except for the guy in their district who keeps bringing in all the money.

The Dems are going to lose seats this time around. It's inevitable. However, I don't think it will be as dramatic as all that, given that most of the time, the same people keep getting re-elected to the job.

91 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:28:43pm

OK So if Obama is allegedly an anti-colonialist then what are we even doing in Iraq or Afghanistan with him as the CiC. I'm not saying that our presence there is colonialism but sure an anti-colonial purist would have withdrawn troops by now to prevent any appearance of colonialist actions. What about Guam and Puerto Rico? Again, Gingrich is talking out of his ass.

92 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:28:46pm

You know what bugs me is that Newt's not a dummy. He has to know that we Americans fought a colonial power to gain our independence. I don't know for sure what he's getting at here but I for one am sick of Obama being knocked for his Kenyan heritage. Am I a Nazi or Nazi sympathizer because I'm part German? In people like Newt's book the answer would be yes. I'm also sick and tired of people like Newt acting like Obama conned the American public in to voting for him. If they wanted to beat Obama they should have put someone up better than McCain who many of them whined about anyhow. I have news for Newt. Barack Obama is our president. He's my president, he's your president. I don't always agree with him but he deserves better than your bullshit.

93 Cineaste  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:29:11pm

re: #86 Kruk

Couldn't have said it better myself. I love that conundrum of complaining about Reverend Wright while claiming Obama is really Muslim. WTF?

They also have been complaining that he's a communist, but are upset over his "lavish" lifestyle (mind you, complaining that it's expensive when the President goes somewhere is total BS, but whatever).

94 Max  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:29:25pm

Dinesh D'Souza: the Bobby Jindal of right wing writers.

95 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:29:26pm

re: #86 Kruk

Strangely, it's the people who whole heartedly believe Bush was a knuckle dragging moron who couldn't tie his own shoes without help who also believe he was the evil mastermind behind 9/11.

Mind you, Obama goes one better. He somehow manages to be a secret Muslim, an acolyte of a radical Black church *and* a godless Communist all at the same time.

Plus, they managed to plan the event for over 40 years, all so they could bring in a foreigner in as President.

96 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:29:48pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

You know what bugs me is that Newt's not a dummy.

Rumors of Newt's brilliance have been widely exaggerated.

97 Lidane  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:30:16pm

re: #86 Kruk

Mind you, Obama goes one better. He somehow manages to be a secret Muslim, an acolyte of a radical Black church *and* a godless Communist all at the same time.

He's also a Nazi who hates white people and is going to kill them all once he finishes taking over the world. At least if the nutbars are to be believed.

98 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:30:19pm

re: #95 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Plus, they managed to plan the event for over 40 years, all so they could bring in a foreigner in as President.

So it's all Kennedy's fault.

99 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:30:29pm

D'Souza also thinks liberals caused 9/11:


During an interview on The Colbert Report on January 16, 2007, while promoting his book, The Enemy At Home: The Cultural Left and Its Responsibility for 9/11, D'Souza blamed liberals for causing the September 11, 2001, attacks. He says they convinced the Carter administration to withdraw support from the Shah, which allowed Muslim fundamentalists to take control of the Iranian government. He also stated that the distorted representation of American culture on television is one of the main sources of resentment of the U.S by Muslims worldwide. D'Souza believes that while traditional Muslims are not too different from traditional Jews and Christians in America, in the media only liberal America is depicted, which by traditional standards is morally depraved; and this false image of America that is broadcast to the world both turns people in traditional cultures against America and is destructive to the traditional societies themselves.[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
100 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:30:34pm

And how can Obama still be a "Communist" while being anti-colonialist? The Communists at one point in history were one of the biggest "colonialists" on the face of the Earth.

101 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:30:39pm

re: #96 darthstar

wildly, not widely...pimf

102 Cineaste  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:30:51pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

You know what bugs me is that Newt's not a dummy.

No, but he's incredibly conniving to get what he wants. Even his ex-wife said so. He will say or do anything to stay in the popular consciousness. He does not give a fuck.

103 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:32:33pm

Some Saturday nights get no better
Watching Stanford beat UCLA's ass is great tonight...
I hope I didn't jink them...

104 Kruk  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:32:51pm

re: #93 Cineaste

They also have been complaining that he's a communist, but are upset over his "lavish" lifestyle (mind you, complaining that it's expensive when the President goes somewhere is total BS, but whatever).

That's all part of the plan, Comrade. Such conspicious Borgeois consumption will only feed the anger of the Poleteriot and hasten the inevitable revolution.

/

105 Max  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:32:58pm

Yikes! I just found a debate between Dinesh D'Souza and Christopher Hitchens, and Mr. D'Souza is arguing that the Nazis were atheists.

Shocka! A big-time conservative "intellectual" is a historical illiterate.

Youtube Video
106 avanti  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:33:03pm

For the Muscle car guys. The Studebaker guys are getting ready for the annual Pure Stock Muscle car drags this week. They'll have about a dozen cars with the Avanti supercharged engines competing. The fastest car is a 2 door 64 Lark sedan with the rare optional R3 engine. He just did a dyno pull on the supercharged 305 cu.in. engine with some impressive numbers:

"Peak horsepower in Pure Stock Drags legal configuration (full exhaust, etc), measured at the rear wheels (which is what's "left over" after power losses through the transmission and differential) was 376.3 HP @ 5531 RPM.

The dyno has a formula to figure raw flywheel horsepower based on measured rear-wheel horsepower after "dialing in" type of transmission, type of differential, and a host of other variables. Using that 376.3 HP as the base, the dyno's formula computed the flywheel horsepower available to be 452 HP !
The the torque curve remained fairly flat and high through the whole test procedure, and measured a best of 370.5 ft/lb at the rear wheels at 4654 RPM during testing."

I'll post how we did in a few days.

107 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:33:13pm

re: #90 Lidane

That's pretty much always the case. People think that Congress is made up of a bunch of corrupt, sleazy fat cats who should be bounced out on their ass-- except for the guy in their district who keeps bringing in all the money.

The Dems are going to lose seats this time around. It's inevitable. However, I don't think it will be as dramatic as all that, given that most of the time, the same people keep getting re-elected to the job.

Ayep. I figure it'll be like '06 was for the Democrats: Some high-profile falls, a whittling away of the majority party's advantage, but the predicted knock-out blow won't happen. Expect a lot of cries from the Right the day after about "voter fraud!" and allegations of pre-programmed voting machines, illegals being allowed to vote, vote tampering, and so forth.

108 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:34:18pm

re: #99 jaunte

D'Souza also thinks liberals caused 9/11:

Without reading the whole thing, I'm assuming that's one of those "It's Clinton's Fault" defense.

That's when I go back to Reagan arming the Mujhadeen. Or we can go back further to when we propped up Sadaam Hussein. It's such a stupid game. At least by Clinton's time, we were trying to do something even if we didn't get him.

Who got bin Laden, btw?

109 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:34:22pm

Fuck You Newt. Seriously. Go have sex with your new trophy wife and leave President Obama alone.

110 mdey  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:34:57pm

Sucking up to the birthers, Wow. Newt really is a shameless opportunist.

111 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:35:08pm

re: #87 brookly red

Konigsberg isn't a crusier, it is a lager...

Well, it was a cruiser back then. Named after a town in East Prussia now called Kallingrad. After sinking the Pegasus, the Konigberg took refuge in the Rufigi River delta. For many months, it frustrated all Royal Navy efforts to precisely locale and sink her, till she finally met her end from aircraft directed gunfire from the monitor Severn and Mersey.

112 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:35:43pm

re: #110 mdey

Sucking up to the birthers, Wow. Newt really is a shameless opportunist.

And the colonialists.
Or something.
?

113 Max  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:35:44pm

re: #110 mdey

Sucking up to the birthers, Wow. Newt really is a shameless opportunist.

What was your first clue?

114 Cato the Elder  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:37:16pm

re: #105 Max D. Reinhardt

The Nazis actually were far more atheist than anything else they might have been.

115 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:37:23pm

re: #103 HoosierHoops

Some Saturday nights get no better
Watching Stanford beat UCLA's ass is great tonight...
I hope I didn't jink them...

I'm watching that right now. I hope this game gets better. I don't enjoy watching blowouts.

116 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:37:40pm

re: #99 jaunte

Carter ok.

Does he mention Reagan and Iran and the Contras in any of that?

117 Lidane  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:38:05pm

re: #94 Max D. Reinhardt

Dinesh D'Souza: the Bobby Jindal of right wing writers.

Ever since that disaster of a speech where he got compared to Kenneth the Page, I can't take Jindal seriously. I just can't.

118 palomino  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:38:26pm

Newt's full of shit, just echoing the far right's attempt to portray Obama as some scary un-American "other."

How is Obama's worldview really that much different from the average Dem politician's? I don't see that it is in any way.

119 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:38:42pm

re: #116 marjoriemoon

Sorry, don't know; I'd have to see that whole Colbert interview.

120 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:40:08pm

re: #58 Gus 802

Yeah. I'm assuming Newt is saying "Obama's bad" because his thinking is "anti-colonialist" like "they were in colonial Kenya." Therefore, being anti-colonial is a bad thing.

No, I think he's just saying that Obama is bad because his father was African. It's pretty damn simple.

121 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:40:18pm

re: #116 marjoriemoon

I think his intent was more to blame our popular (liberal) culture for enraging Islamic radicals.

122 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:41:03pm

Silly, silly, silly lizards.

Newt has a globe. Africa is upside-down, don't you see? Just look at your globe, and you will see.

A Kenyan view is an upside-down view of the world. Sometimes Obama has to twist his head around, or stand on his head just to read his briefings.

Silly lizards.

123 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:41:07pm

I can't wait for Stewart's expert commentary of this weekend's events. The bit with Oliver last week implying the US Government was funding terrorists (US tax breaks for creepy churches) was just brilliant.

124 engineer cat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:41:50pm

He says they convinced the Carter administration to withdraw support from the Shah, which allowed Muslim fundamentalists to take control of the Iranian government.

i suppose it is too strenuous for mr d'souza to recall the everlasting resentment of the iranian people at how we forced the shah back down their throats when they tried to throw him out the first time in the 50s

125 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:42:09pm

re: #121 jaunte

I think his intent was more to blame our popular (liberal) culture for enraging Islamic radicals.

All the better to distract people from the fact that popular conservative culture is doing their best to enflame Christian radicals.

126 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:42:33pm

re: #124 engineer dog

He says they convinced the Carter administration to withdraw support from the Shah, which allowed Muslim fundamentalists to take control of the Iranian government.

i suppose it is too strenuous for mr d'souza to recall the everlasting resentment of the iranian people at how we forced the shah back down their throats when they tried to throw him out the first time in the 50s

You don't say.

127 Cato the Elder  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:43:11pm

I wish Gingrich a prison term with all the requisite ass fun.

128 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:43:13pm

Police suspect terrorist link to Copenhagen blast

An explosion in a Copenhagen, Denmark, hotel toilet may have been linked to terrorist activities, the head of the Danish secret service PET said Saturday.

Jakob Scharf said initial investigations indicated that Friday afternoon's blast might have been a botched preparation for a terrorist attack.

An injured man arrested shortly after the explosion was refusing to answer police questioning, reports said.

Police apprehended the man after he was seen running away from the Jorgensen Hotel and into the nearby Orstedsparken park.

The park was evacuated and the surrounding streets were cordoned off as explosive experts were called in to remove a suspected suicide belt around his body.

After several hours, a remote-controlled bomb disposal unit removed a bag strapped to the man's waist. The bag did not explode when a shot was fired at it, and the suspect was taken by ambulance to hospital.

129 Kruk  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:43:16pm

re: #97 Lidane

He's also a Nazi who hates white people and is going to kill them all once he finishes taking over the world. At least if the nutbars are to be believed.

But somehow he's also doing all he can to weaken America in the meantime. If one wanted to take over the world, wouldn't one want to *strengthen* the superpower one already controls?

This whole "hates white people" idea has come up many times, not least with Shirley Sherrod. There'a a very real fear of what might happen if minorities gain position of power, and I suspect it comes from people who imagine their own beliefs about keeping others "in their place" will be mirrored by those others.

130 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:44:06pm

Kenyan Worldview = Stay with your first wife and mother of your two daughters.

Yeah, I got a bee in my bonnet about that one.

131 palomino  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:44:08pm

re: #99 jaunte

D'Souza also thinks liberals caused 9/11:

Really? They attacked us on 9/11 (and continue to try) because they don't like our TV shows and fashion magazines and even pornography?

Total bs.

132 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:44:36pm

re: #131 palomino

I blame Murphy Brown.

133 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:45:04pm
Dinesh D’Souza

ell oh ell. The George Galloway of Christianity.

Google Video
134 freetoken  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:45:12pm

I just noticed the changed logo. Slow I am somedays.

Anyway, Gingrich, if he is thinking of running for the GOP 2012 nomination, will face a crowded field, with plenty of other candidates vying for the wingnut vote.

135 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:45:14pm

re: #121 jaunte

I think his intent was more to blame our popular (liberal) culture for enraging Islamic radicals.

Right, and that's why people who don't know their own history believe it.

136 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:45:30pm

re: #132 jaunte

I blame Murphy Brown.

I blame Two Girls, One Cup. Osama watched it once and he puked up his insides after watching it.*
*Yes I'm aware that debuted after 9-11

137 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:45:40pm

Pam is pissed and abusing the English language again....
Geraldo's Hit Job

I Geraldo epitomized the mainstream media's attempt to marginalize and minimize both our rally against the mega-mosque today, and the opposition to the Ground Zero mosque in general.
...
But it was that kind of night. Geraldo didn't seem to care how nonsensical, rude and ignorant he had to be to do it, he was just determined to portray me and those who agree with me as "extreme." It was yet another example of how out of touch with the American people the mainstream media has become.

Well, Geraldo, we are not all extremists. We are not going away, either. Defending America is not extreme. Truth has become estreme. Truth is the new hate speech. The lies that Geraldo and others like you tell about us, and the boxes you push us into, become more obvious to more people every day. Our rally, attended by tens of thousands (just look at the pictures) that you dismissed as 1,500 is a case in point. You can pretend those people don't exist, Geraldo, but they do. We do. And we're going to keep fighting to defend our country, whatever you call us, and whatever lies you tell.

138 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:45:43pm

Cal Thomas just Foot-Mouthed on Fox: Rauf was making a threat if Park 51 was moved. Alan Colmes is the reasoned one.

139 palomino  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:45:44pm

re: #132 jaunte

I blame Murphy Brown.

Yeah. Me too. If only she'd worn a burka on her TV show, everything would be OK now.
/

140 webevintage  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:45:53pm

re: #24 jaunte

So, here's D'Souza's big 'anti-colonialist' insight, bolded:

Incredibly, the U.S. is being ruled according to the dreams of a Luo tribesman of the 1950s. This philandering, inebriated African socialist, who raged against the world for denying him the realization of his anticolonial ambitions, is now setting the nation's agenda through the reincarnation of his dreams in his son. The son makes it happen, but he candidly admits he is only living out his father's dream. The invisible father provides the inspiration, and the son dutifully gets the job done. America today is governed by a ghost.

hahahahahahahaha
I am amazed that someone gets paid to write crazy Presidential zombie ghost fanfiction.
At the end will the Scoobies have to cut off the head of the zombie ghost dad to release America, and the President, from its drunken ramblings?

141 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:47:09pm

re: #91 Gus 802

OK So if Obama is allegedly an anti-colonialist then what are we even doing in Iraq or Afghanistan with him as the CiC. I'm not saying that our presence there is colonialism but sure an anti-colonial purist would have withdrawn troops by now to prevent any appearance of colonialist actions. What about Guam and Puerto Rico? Again, Gingrich is talking out of his ass.

He says it's a predicative model, but it actually doesn't predict anything Obama has so far done. Model fail.

142 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:47:11pm

re: #137 Killgore Trout

Pam is pissed and abusing the English language again...
Geraldo's Hit Job

Oh, just sing us another song, mommy.

143 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:47:46pm

re: #142 darthstar

Oh, just sing us another song, mommy.

Off we go, into the wild blue yonder...flying high, with a bottle of booze...

144 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:47:55pm

re: #137 Killgore Trout

Pam is pissed and abusing the English language again...
Geraldo's Hit Job

Shouldn't somebody call the cops? Help English get a restraining order? Charge her with language abuse?

145 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:48:16pm

I just can't wait to see the look on their faces if Obama wins in 2012.

146 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:48:22pm

re: #122 EmmmieG

Silly, silly, silly lizards.

Newt has a globe. Africa is upside-down, don't you see? Just look at your globe, and you will see.

A Kenyan view is an upside-down view of the world. Sometimes Obama has to twist his head around, or stand on his head just to read his briefings.

Silly lizards.

Hmm, depends. There's always the Peters Map.
[Link: www.petersmap.com...]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

147 Kruk  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:48:51pm

re: #140 webevintage

hahahahahahahaha
I am amazed that someone gets paid to write crazy Presidential zombie ghost fanfiction.
At the end will the Scoobies have to cut off the head of the zombie ghost dad to release America, and the President, from its drunken ramblings?

Since Obama was elected at least in part by the youth vote, he won't be able to blame his downfall on "those darn kids".

148 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:49:09pm

re: #137 Killgore Trout

Truth has become estreme.


Estremely drinked.

149 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:49:10pm

re: #121 jaunte

I think his intent was more to blame our popular (liberal) culture for enraging Islamic radicals.

Surely if Islamic radicals could see that our lifestyle is really not so shocking, they'd leave us alone.

/

150 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:49:34pm

re: #147 Kruk

Since Obama was elected at least in part by the youth vote, he won't be able to blame his downfall on "those darn kids".

Well his detractors blame his presidency on us damn kids, to which I say your welcome every time :).

151 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:49:53pm

Gingrich could never become president. First he says these types of stupid things all the time. Even worse is when he sounds like they just thawed someone out from the 1950s. Then he has that weird voice of his which is usually whiny. To top it all off he has that strange looking head.

152 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:50:31pm

re: #130 EmmmieG

Kenyan Worldview = Stay with your first wife and mother of your two daughters.

Yeah, I got a bee in my bonnet about that one.

If I were going to join in the pop-psychoanalyzing of the President, I would say that one of his priorities is not to be the men his mother married.

153 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:51:14pm

Lunatic stalker said what? Twitter / 1389: @JammieWF I suspect that @ ...

@JammieWF I suspect that @Lizardoid was a moby to begin with, and was always covertly part of the leftist/jihadist convergence.

154 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:51:37pm

re: #131 palomino

Really? They attacked us on 9/11 (and continue to try) because they don't like our TV shows and fashion magazines and even pornography?

Total bs.

Hypocritical narrishkeit. "These people are incredibly evil, but they would have left us alone if YOU hadn't made them mad with Baywatch."

155 avanti  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:51:51pm

re: #137 Killgore Trout

Pam is pissed and abusing the English language again...
Geraldo's Hit Job

She wanted press coverage, she got it on the most conservative network, what's the problem ?

156 freetoken  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:51:55pm

re: #151 Gus 802

His ego would immensely enjoy being on stage at the 2012 GOP convention, though.

All he needs to do is win a few delegates and he'll get his next 10 years of fame.

157 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:51:57pm

re: #137 Killgore Trout

Pam is pissed and abusing the English language again...
Geraldo's Hit Job

Shrieky to English translation: OW!! MY BUTT, IT HURTS! That tricksy Latino Geraldo spanked me! He's an MSM bully, since he wouldn't agree with me!

158 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:52:08pm

re: #154 SanFranciscoZionist

Hypocritical narrishkeit. "These people are incredibly evil, but they would have left us alone if YOU hadn't made them mad with Baywatch."

Pamela is an infidel. :)

159 b_sharp  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:52:17pm
“This is a person who is fundamentally out of touch with how the world works, who happened to have played a wonderful con, as a result of which he is now president,” Gingrich tells us.

The irony is as thick as a field freshly fertilized with day old manure here. If anyone can be described as being out of touch with how the world works it would be D’Souza.

160 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:52:18pm

re: #132 jaunte

I blame Murphy Brown.

Word.

161 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:52:33pm

re: #139 palomino

Yeah. Me too. If only she'd worn a burka on her TV show, everything would be OK now.
/

There was a country song once, called "Would Jesus Wear A Rolex on His Television Show?"

162 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:52:34pm

re: #153 Charles

Lunatic stalker said what? Twitter / 1389: @JammieWF I suspect that @ ...

Oh, that nut. She's an admirer of Slobodan Milošević and a general purpose crank and stalker.

163 darthstar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:52:42pm

re: #153 Charles

leftist/jihadist convergence...isn't that held in the parking lot of the 7-11?

164 palomino  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:53:00pm

re: #141 SanFranciscoZionist

He says it's a predicative model, but it actually doesn't predict anything Obama has so far done. Model fail.

But isn't it just like a Kenyan to want a troop increase in Afghanistan? And to favor a health reform package with an individual mandate but not a public option? And of course to support a temporary bailout, but not nationalization, of the banking industry during times of economic crisis?

Gingrich is just laughable. If anything, Obama is far more moderate, and far less radical, than the far right was predicting two years ago.

165 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:53:02pm

re: #153 Charles

Lunatic stalker said what? Twitter / 1389: @JammieWF I suspect that @ ...

Damnit Charles, when were you gonna tell me you were a liberal/jihadist plant? I trust you all this time!

///

166 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:53:16pm

re: #153 Charles

Lunatic stalker said what? Twitter / 1389: @JammieWF I suspect that @ ...

Nebulous multinational/generational conspiracies are the coolest.

167 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:53:43pm

Animal Rights Group Promotes Compassion for Murfreesboro Mosque

MURFREESBORO, Tenn.- An animal rights group is now getting involved in the debate over a controversial mosque in Murfreesboro.

The Tennessean reports PETA is asking the Islamic Center for permission to place a sign at the construction site. The sign would feature an image of peas arranged to represent different religious symbols, like the Christian cross, Muslim star and Jewish Star of David.

PETA says the sign is meant to promote compassion and understanding of all religions. There is no word yet on the Islamic Center's opinion of the proposal.

PETA is involving itself in this debate? How will they save animal lives? Are they going to ask the mosque not to eat meat?

168 Kruk  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:54:15pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

Well his detractors blame his presidency on us damn kids, to which I say your welcome every time :).

They're more interested in blaming Black voters. The theme is that he got such a large number of Black votes because he's Black and they're Black, and Blacks will always vote for Blacks etc. They ignore that in every election before 2008, 100% of White voters voted for a White candidate. Are we to assume those votes were also cast on racial lines?

169 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:54:32pm

re: #167 NJDhockeyfan

Peas in our time.

170 b_sharp  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:54:35pm

re: #3 Dark_Falcon

Nice nod to the Nirthers, Newt. You choad.

I don't know what a 'choad' is, but it sounds deadly awful.

171 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:55:21pm

re: #170 b_sharp

I don't know what a 'choad' is, but it sounds deadly awful.



Here ya go.

172 spiderx  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:55:24pm

Newt Gingrich has a philandering narcissistic authoritarian world view.

173 Kruk  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:55:29pm

re: #154 SanFranciscoZionist

Hypocritical narrishkeit. "These people are incredibly evil, but they would have left us alone if YOU hadn't made them mad with Baywatch."

And yet, these are the people who claim to stand up for freedom of expession and "Western" values.

174 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:55:41pm

re: #168 Kruk

They're more interested in blaming Black voters. The theme is that he got such a large number of Black votes because he's Black and they're Black, and Blacks will always vote for Blacks etc. They ignore that in every election before 2008, 100% of White voters voted for a White candidate. Are we to assume those votes were also cast on racial lines?

Oh no doubt about it. I am just pointing out as a young voter that my generation is sometimes blamed for Obama. As I said earlier no regrets here about voting for him over McCain.

175 palomino  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:56:41pm

re: #161 SanFranciscoZionist

There was a country song once, called "Would Jesus Wear A Rolex on His Television Show?"

But it's the Joel Osteen prosperity doctrine--shiny expensive things are a sign of how much Jesus loves you.

176 Kruk  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:57:04pm

re: #169 jaunte

Peas in our time.

"All we're saying, is give peas a chance..."

177 b_sharp  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:57:21pm

Having a witch turn somebody into a newt is starting to have a whole new horror to it.

178 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:57:36pm

re: #167 NJDhockeyfan

Animal Rights Group Promotes Compassion for Murfreesboro Mosque

PETA is involving itself in this debate? How will they save animal lives? Are they going to ask the mosque not to eat meat?

Sometimes, all you can do is...stare in confusion.

Peas for peace?

179 b_sharp  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:58:40pm

re: #171 Varek Raith


Here ya go.

Newt the choad is definitely chafing.

180 engineer cat  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:59:21pm

chode
2. n.
a real or imaginary penis that is short and squat.

if i ever need to refer to an imaginary penis that is short and squat, now i will know the word for it

181 palomino  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 8:59:30pm

re: #178 SanFranciscoZionist

Sometimes, all you can do is...stare in confusion.

Peas for peace?

Everybody's gotta get a piece of this mosque action, even if it's PETA and the mosque is the one in Murfreesboro.

182 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:00:00pm

re: #167 NJDhockeyfan

Animal Rights Group Promotes Compassion for Murfreesboro Mosque

PETA is involving itself in this debate? How will they save animal lives? Are they going to ask the mosque not to eat meat?

Well remember Muslims don't eat pork. So in that respect I imagine they're happy for having Muslims in the community. But on the flip side, most Muslims I've known especially those of Arab extraction tend to like lamb meat too. Of course PETA would be pissed at me since I enjoy pork and lamb equally.

183 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:00:14pm

re: #168 Kruk

They're more interested in blaming Black voters. The theme is that he got such a large number of Black votes because he's Black and they're Black, and Blacks will always vote for Blacks etc. They ignore that in every election before 2008, 100% of White voters voted for a White candidate. Are we to assume those votes were also cast on racial lines?

IIRC, there was a greater black voter turnout than usual, (not huge, but an uptick) but the percentages of blacks voting Democrat didn't move noticeably.

I really don't know how people can get that upset about the idea that black people would be interested in voting for the first serious black candidate for president. It sort of simply stands to reason.

184 Henchman 25  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:00:29pm

re: #167 NJDhockeyfan

Animal Rights Group Promotes Compassion for Murfreesboro Mosque

PETA is involving itself in this debate? How will they save ruin animal lives?

185 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:00:36pm

re: #171 Varek Raith


Here ya go.

I had no idea. So, it's the same as schmuck, then?

186 Henchman 25  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:00:45pm

re: #184 SteelPH

FTFY

187 b_sharp  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:01:01pm

re: #28 Dark_Falcon

I much prefer thin crust myself. I am from Chicago, but I dislike deep-dish pizza. It's too likely to end up on my shirt.

Then this is something you need.

188 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:02:36pm

re: #175 palomino

But it's the Joel Osteen prosperity doctrine--shiny expensive things are a sign of how much Jesus loves you.


WOULD JESUS WEAR A ROLEX
(Margaret Archer / Chet Atkins)

Ray Stevens - 1987

Woke up this mornin' turned on my TV set
There in livin' color was somethin' I can't forget
This man was preachin' at me.. yeah.. layin' on the charm
Asking me for 20 with 10,000 on his arm

He wore designer clothing and a big smile on his face
Selling me salvation while they sang Amazing Grace
Asking me for money when he had all the signs of weath
Almost wrote a check out.. yeah.. but then I asked myself…

Would He wear a pinky ring, would He drive a fancy car
Would His wife wear furs and diamonds,
would His dressing room have a star
If he came back tomorrow there's something I'd like to know
Would Jesus wear a rolex on His television show

Would Jesus be political if he came back to earth
Have his second home in Palm Springs.. yeah.. but try to hide his worth
Take money from those poor folks when He comes back again
And admit He's talked to all those preachers who said they'd been-a talking to Him

Would He wear a pinky ring, would He drive a fancy car
Would His wife wear furs and diamonds,
would His dressing room have a star
If he came back tomorrow there's something I'd like to know
Could ya tell me - Would Jesus wear a rolex
Would Jesus wear a rolex
Would Jesus wear a rolex on His television show
Would Jesus wear a rolex on His television show

189 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:02:55pm

re: #178 SanFranciscoZionist

Sometimes, all you can do is...stare in confusion.

Peas for peace?

I don't think the mosque member are going to approve of PETA's nude pictures and PETA won't eat their Halal meat meals. Something doesn't sound right.

190 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:03:10pm

re: #183 SanFranciscoZionist

IIRC, there was a greater black voter turnout than usual, (not huge, but an uptick) but the percentages of blacks voting Democrat didn't move noticeably.

I really don't know how people can get that upset about the idea that black people would be interested in voting for the first serious black candidate for president. It sort of simply stands to reason.


You know the funny thing was to me was hearing white conservatives accuse black voters of reverse racism for voting for Obama. I thought it was funny because originally in the primaries, Obama was neck and neck with black voters with Hillary Clinton. There were many prominent Black Americans such as Maya Angelou that endorsed Clinton. Magic Johnson and the CEO of BET were others. Shit, I don't blame blacks for turning up in larnge numbers to support Obama. They were excited for the same reason my Irish Catholic grandmother was for JFK. It was the feeling that we've come a long way from the days of second class citizenship.

191 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:04:18pm

re: #183 SanFranciscoZionist

IIRC, there was a greater black voter turnout than usual, (not huge, but an uptick) but the percentages of blacks voting Democrat didn't move noticeably.

I really don't know how people can get that upset about the idea that black people would be interested in voting for the first serious black candidate for president. It sort of simply stands to reason.

Of the Blacks who voted, Obama got 98% of the vote. And it did, indeed, go up. I have to find the figure.

Also up among first time voters, too, and that's not a bad thing. Not for us, anyway.

192 b_sharp  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:04:21pm

re: #69 HoosierHoops

Everybody hates me and I don't care..
I order thin crust Veggie pizzas with extra everything and tomatoes and extra pineapples..No ham thank you...
I don't care... Lizards freak out..I don't care...That's my pizza
/It even disgusts Charles...( Extra Pineapples Charles!)
LOL

Hawaiian pizza rules, dude.

193 Kruk  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:04:40pm

re: #174 HappyWarrior

Oh no doubt about it. I am just pointing out as a young voter that my generation is sometimes blamed for Obama. As I said earlier no regrets here about voting for him over McCain.

Yep. It was the Kids, the Blacks, the Latinos, the Asians, Jews, the Women....the only people who didn't fall for the "con job" were middle aged white blokes. There's a hard core who simply can't believe such a large cross section of the voters would have chosen Obama, so they fall back on conspiracy theories and 'othering' both Obama and those who voted for him.

194 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:05:45pm

Protester of the day?

195 b_sharp  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:05:53pm

re: #73 Max D. Reinhardt

I'm confused. Is he saying that Obama's father is an "African socialist" or is he talking about Obama himself?

I'm confused by the "dreams of his son" part. As far as I know, Barack Obama doesn't have a son.

Still, Mr. D'Souza is using very choppy sentence structure. He's a terrible writer.

He's a terrible thinker. Watch any of his debates with Christopher Hitchens.

196 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:06:15pm

re: #169 jaunte

Peas in our time.

Strategic Air Command - "Peas is our profession."

197 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:06:26pm

re: #188 SanFranciscoZionist

Youtube Video
198 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:06:35pm

re: #190 HappyWarrior

You know the funny thing was to me was hearing white conservatives accuse black voters of reverse racism for voting for Obama. I thought it was funny because originally in the primaries, Obama was neck and neck with black voters with Hillary Clinton. There were many prominent Black Americans such as Maya Angelou that endorsed Clinton. Magic Johnson and the CEO of BET were others. Shit, I don't blame blacks for turning up in larnge numbers to support Obama. They were excited for the same reason my Irish Catholic grandmother was for JFK. It was the feeling that we've come a long way from the days of second class citizenship.

Practically every black student at the high school I used to work at had at least one Obama t-shirt. They were really excited about him. They like his nerdiness, and his hot wife, and his cute daughters, and the fact that he's black and he gets to be President. A pair of kids dressed up like him and Michelle to host part of our black history month assembly. He's a superhero.

How cool is that, that the PRESIDENT is a big deal to teenagers?

199 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:07:13pm

I have to say as a young voter what appealed to me and to this day appealed to me about Obama is that he seemed to talk on an even level with younger voters. He came across as reasonable and likable. When I saw Obama speak, I understood what people my dad's age experienced with Kennedy. I've read in history books that JFK was seen as the cool older brother to Ike Eisenhower who was regarded as being more like a grandfather figure.

200 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:07:28pm

re: #194 Killgore Trout

Protester of the day?

Oh dear.

/

201 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:07:46pm

I'm guided by vices.

202 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:08:04pm

re: #193 Kruk

Yep. It was the Kids, the Blacks, the Latinos, the Asians, Jews, the Women...the only people who didn't fall for the "con job" were middle aged white blokes. There's a hard core who simply can't believe such a large cross section of the voters would have chosen Obama, so they fall back on conspiracy theories and 'othering' both Obama and those who voted for him.

I can understand that, too. When Bush won his second term, I have to admit, I called a friend and asked, "Who the hell ARE these people, and are they INSANE?"

So, I can imagine that it's hard for some to get their heads around the idea that Obama did indeed have wide enough appeal to win the presidency. But I got over it, and they should too.

203 webevintage  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:08:06pm

re: #194 Killgore Trout

Protester of the day?

My favorite picture of the day was the dude with the Che flag.
It made no sense which made me laugh.

204 Kruk  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:08:33pm

re: #196 Gus 802

Strategic Air Command - "Peas is our profession."

I always loved that one. It manged to sound horribly ironic while being absolutely true.

205 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:08:48pm

re: #191 marjoriemoon

Of the Blacks who voted, Obama got 98% of the vote. And it did, indeed, go up. I have to find the figure.

Also up among first time voters, too, and that's not a bad thing. Not for us, anyway.

Well this is interesting if you like this sort of thing.

[Link: pewresearch.org...]

The 2008 election was the most diverse in history.

The electorate in last year's presidential election was the most racially and ethnically diverse in U.S. history, with nearly one-in-four votes cast by non-whites, according to a new analysis of Census Bureau data by the Pew Research Center.1 The nation's three biggest minority groups -- blacks, Hispanics and Asians -- each accounted for unprecedented shares of the presidential vote in 2008.

Overall, whites2 made up 76.3% of the record 131 million people3 who voted in November's presidential election, while blacks made up 12.1%, Hispanics 7.4% and Asians 2.5%.4 The white share is the lowest ever, yet is still higher than the 65.8% white share of the total U.S. population

206 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:10:59pm

re: #204 Kruk

I always loved that one. It manged to sound horribly ironic while being absolutely true.

Then there's the Colt Single Action Army "Peasmaker."

//

207 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:11:34pm

re: #206 Gus 802

Then there's the Colt Single Action Army "Peasmaker."

//

Peas on earth, toward men good will.

208 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:12:35pm

One of my high school friends is named Earth.

She married a guy with a Gaelic surname that translates to 'son of the peaceful man'.

By the second Christmas they were married, his family had already run through all the Peace on Earth jokes they could think of.

209 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:12:38pm

re: #198 SanFranciscoZionist

Practically every black student at the high school I used to work at had at least one Obama t-shirt. They were really excited about him. They like his nerdiness, and his hot wife, and his cute daughters, and the fact that he's black and he gets to be President. A pair of kids dressed up like him and Michelle to host part of our black history month assembly. He's a superhero.

How cool is that, that the PRESIDENT is a big deal to teenagers?

It was exciting. The enthaisium I saw for Obama was totally different than the milquetoast reception there was for Kerry back in 2004 when I was a senior in high school. I wasn't at GMU at the time but people I know who were have some amazing stories and Obama loves the campus here too. He's visited quite a few times.

210 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:13:23pm

re: #207 SanFranciscoZionist

Peas on earth, toward men good will.

We came in peas for all makind. - Apollo 11 lunar plaque.

211 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:14:45pm

Drop Kick Me Jesus Through
The Goalposts Of Life

Song from Bobby Bare Greatest Hits, Bareworks Inc.
Words and music by Paul Craft.
CD, BWCD-040292

Drop kick me Jesus through the goal posts of life
End over end neither left nor to right
Straight through the heart of them righteous uprights
Drop kick me Jesus through the goal posts of life.

Make me, oh make me, Lord more than I am
Make me a piece in your master game plan
Free from the earthly temptation below
I’ve got the will, Lord if you’ve got the toe.

Drop kick me Jesus through the goal posts of life
End over end neither left nor to right
Straight through the heart of them righteous uprights
Drop kick me Jesus through the goal posts of life.

Take all the brothers who’ve gone on before
And all of the sisters who’ve knocked on your door
All the departed dear loved ones of mine
Stick’em up front in the offensive line.

Drop kick me Jesus through the goal posts of life
End over end neither left nor to right
Straight through the heart of them righteous uprights
Drop kick me Jesus through the goal posts of life.

Yeah, Drop kick me Jesus through the goal posts of life
End over end neither left nor to right
Straight through the heart of them righteous uprights
Drop kick me Jesus through the goal posts of life.

212 webevintage  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:14:57pm

I wonder what they learned today:
[Link: www.flickr.com...]

and yeah, they are pretty damn cute.

213 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:16:11pm

re: #212 webevintage

I wonder what they learned today:
[Link: www.flickr.com...]

and yeah, they are pretty damn cute.

Awww.

214 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:16:18pm

re: #211 SanFranciscoZionist
Drop Kick Me Jesus

Youtube Video
215 freetoken  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:17:46pm

Townhall has up an entry on the "anti-mosque rally". However, the link is broken (and Google doesn't have a cache). However, the "print" edition is still available:

[Link: townhall.com...]

Note the third image down, where there is a picture of a guy in front of a crowd, and the Townhall caption reads "A man reads provocative passages from the Koran:"

However, the scene reminds me of the guy who then burnt a page of the Koran. Can some of you check to see if it is that same guy/situation?

216 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:20:02pm

Praise the Lord and Send Me The Money

217 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:20:18pm

re: #212 webevintage

I wonder what they learned today:
[Link: www.flickr.com...]

and yeah, they are pretty damn cute.

Good slideshow.

I think too young for such a thing. But then I'm a little overprotective heh

218 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:20:41pm

re: #211 SanFranciscoZionist

Drop Kick Me Jesus Through
The Goalposts Of Life

Song from Bobby Bare Greatest Hits, Bareworks Inc.
Words and music by Paul Craft.
CD, BWCD-040292

Drop kick me Jesus through the goal posts of life
End over end neither left nor to right
Straight through the heart of them righteous uprights
Drop kick me Jesus through the goal posts of life.

Make me, oh make me, Lord more than I am
Make me a piece in your master game plan
Free from the earthly temptation below
I’ve got the will, Lord if you’ve got the toe.

Drop kick me Jesus through the goal posts of life
End over end neither left nor to right
Straight through the heart of them righteous uprights
Drop kick me Jesus through the goal posts of life.

Take all the brothers who’ve gone on before
And all of the sisters who’ve knocked on your door
All the departed dear loved ones of mine
Stick’em up front in the offensive line.

Drop kick me Jesus through the goal posts of life
End over end neither left nor to right
Straight through the heart of them righteous uprights
Drop kick me Jesus through the goal posts of life.

Yeah, Drop kick me Jesus through the goal posts of life
End over end neither left nor to right
Straight through the heart of them righteous uprights
Drop kick me Jesus through the goal posts of life.

Bobby Bare is one of the few country musicians I like.

219 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:21:38pm

re: #216 SanFranciscoZionist

Praise the Lord and Send Me The Money

Yeeeeeha!

220 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:23:11pm

re: #217 marjoriemoon

Good slideshow.

I think too young for such a thing. But then I'm a little overprotective heh

I wouldn't bring my kids to a protest, especially one like that. The possibility of violence was high and that's not an experience I would want my kids to have.

221 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:23:13pm

What happened with Spencer today? He's conspicuously absent.

222 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:24:23pm

Bobby Bare lyrics - Your Credit Card Won't Get You Into Heaven

Your credit card won't get you into heaven
Your Visa will not buy you silver wings
And when you're burning down in hell with no water in the well
Your Diner's Club won't buy you one cold drink.

You cannot charge salvation or redemption
Your Master Charge it won't help to save your skin
When you're standing in the gates and they slam 'em in your face
Your Playboy key, it will not get you in...

223 webevintage  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:24:33pm

re: #217 marjoriemoon

Good slideshow.

I think too young for such a thing. But then I'm a little overprotective heh

I kinda thought so too.
Maybe they were far enough away from the anti-mosque folks (or their parents had properly prepared them with what to expect) so they would not hear the ugly or get caught up if violence happened.
If I was little Geller and her crew would scare the hell out of me.

224 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:27:59pm

re: #223 webevintage

I kinda thought so too.
Maybe they were far enough away from the anti-mosque folks (or their parents had properly prepared them with what to expect) so they would not hear the ugly or get caught up if violence happened.
If I was little Geller and her crew would scare the hell out of me.

The big, pushing crowds are bad enough. I've been to rallies like that. It's easy to get separated. They're really too small, IMO.

225 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:32:05pm

Time Magazine has an anti-Israel story promoted on the cover.

Shocka!

'Rhymes With Fagin'
Time magazine adds its voice to the chorus of those attempting to delegitimize the Jewish state.


If you're a reader of a certain age, you might understand the headline.

In May 1977, when Menachem Begin was elected Israel's prime minister, Time magazine set out to describe the man, beginning with the correct pronunciation of his last name: "Rhymes with Fagin," the editors explained, invoking the character from Oliver Twist. Modern Israeli leader; archetypal Jewish lowlife: Get it?

The magazine's other characterization of Begin was that he was "dangerous." A year later, he shared the Nobel Peace Prize with Egypt's Anwar Sadat.

Maybe there's something in the magazine's DNA. This week, readers were treated to a cover story by Karl Vick titled, suggestively, "Why Israel Doesn't Care About Peace." That's one way for Time to address the current state of negotiations between the Jewish state and its neighbors, which otherwise barely rate a mention in the article.

... Nearly every Israeli has a child, sibling, boyfriend or parent in the army. Nearly every Israeli has been to the funeral of a fallen soldier, or a friend killed in a terrorist attack. Most Israeli homes and businesses come equipped with safe rooms or bomb shelters; every Israeli owns a gas mask. The whole country exists under the encroaching shadows of Hezbollah in Lebanon, Hamas in Gaza, and the prospect of a nuclear Iran. How many Americans, to say nothing of Europeans, can say the same about their own lives?

Yet when it comes to scoring cheap shots against the Jewish state, Time is not the sort of magazine to allow the obvious to disturb a prejudiced hypothesis. Can the magazine point to equally pointed cover stories about internal Palestinian affairs and what, perchance, they mean for the peace process? I checked: It last did so in April 2002 with a largely sympathetic portrait of Yasser Arafat "All Boxed In" by an invading Israeli army.

Those loving peaceful folks in the Pali area are such kind people getting constantly attacked by Israel. Good thing Time is telling us the real story...
///

[spit]

226 webevintage  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:32:16pm

This is totally OT from anything we have talked about today.
But I just got an "update" from the Post Office website that a package I had sent was delivered today.
It was 13 pounds, I mailed it parcel (which can take 10 days)....on Friday.
It was delivered today in CA.
Today.
I mailed it yesterday from Arkansas.

wow.

227 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:34:21pm

re: #226 webevintage

This is totally OT from anything we have talked about today.
But I just got an "update" from the Post Office website that a package I had sent was delivered today.
It was 13 pounds, I mailed it parcel (which can take 10 days)...on Friday.
It was delivered today in CA.
Today.
I mailed it yesterday from Arkansas.

wow.

I'ld want to get out of AK and to CA fast too.

/

228 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:38:47pm

Last night I unsubscribed thunderf00t from my Youtube account. That dude gets on my nerves.

229 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:39:43pm

re: #225 NJDhockeyfan

Karl Vick obviously doesn't understand people who are trying to make the best of a bad situation.

230 freetoken  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:40:46pm

re: #225 NJDhockeyfan

Instead of relying on the WSJ editorial board to do a review of Vick's piece, why don't you read it and see where you would correct Vick, if you think he is in error?

Here's the link:
[Link: www.time.com...]

231 Lidane  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:43:32pm

re: #153 Charles

Lunatic stalker said what? Twitter / 1389: @JammieWF I suspect that @ ...

Oh, that's hilarious.

It was only a matter of time really. I'm shocked it took them this long to call you a liberal plant.

232 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:44:03pm

Guess who's not going to renounce this guy's shit

Why, the GOP!

233 avanti  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:46:54pm

Comment on crazy Pam's site:


"Seems to me that this last bit of our Hope would be a really small obstacle to conquer, Yet they expect us 70% of Americans to believe that Somehow Fox-News Hub has been holding their ground for this long?

INDEED WITHOUT A DOUBT; THEY HAVE BEEN OVER RUN FOR SURE!

PREPARE YOU'RE SELVES FOR WAR! "


Run for the hills, Fox has being taken over by them Muslims too./

234 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:47:20pm

re: #120 SanFranciscoZionist

No, I think he's just saying that Obama is bad because his father was African. It's pretty damn simple.

yes

235 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:49:06pm

re: #233 avanti

Comment on crazy Pam's site:

"Seems to me that this last bit of our Hope would be a really small obstacle to conquer, Yet they expect us 70% of Americans to believe that Somehow Fox-News Hub has been holding their ground for this long?

INDEED WITHOUT A DOUBT; THEY HAVE BEEN OVER RUN FOR SURE!

PREPARE YOU'RE SELVES FOR WAR! "

Run for the hills, Fox has being taken over by them Muslims too./

They're here!!

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

236 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:53:44pm

Here's one entrepreneurial fellow at the rally.

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

237 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:54:15pm

Oh that was last August.

238 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:56:03pm

One of Pam's comments,

"There's a tipping point coming."

Yeah, when people finally realize how crazy she is.

239 Lidane  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:57:32pm

re: #233 avanti

So because Fox News did their job for once and reported that Pam's freakshow got less than 1000 people, and Geraldo pretty much pointed and laughed at her to her face, it's now a network overrun by teh ebil Mooslims?

Too funny.

240 freetoken  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 9:58:31pm

For tonight's cuteness dose:

MSNBC Video
241 Irenicum  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:01:21pm

Hey gang. So I have a Kenyan worldview? Damn.

242 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:02:10pm

Is anyone surprised with this news?

Scientists Find Thick Layer Of Oil On Seafloor

Scientists on a research vessel in the Gulf of Mexico are finding a substantial layer of oily sediment stretching for dozens of miles in all directions. Their discovery suggests that a lot of oil from the Deepwater Horizon didn't simply evaporate or dissipate into the water — it has settled to the seafloor.

The Research Vessel Oceanus sailed on Aug. 21 on a mission to figure out what happened to the more than 4 million barrels of oil that gushed into the water. Onboard, Samantha Joye, a professor in the Department of Marine Sciences at the University of Georgia, says she suddenly has a pretty good idea about where a lot of it ended up. It's showing up in samples of the seafloor, between the well site and the coast.

"I've collected literally hundreds of sediment cores from the Gulf of Mexico, including around this area. And I've never seen anything like this," she said in an interview via satellite phone from the boat.

Joye describes seeing layers of oily material — in some places more than 2 inches thick — covering the bottom of the seafloor.

"It's very fluffy and porous. And there are little tar balls in there you can see that look like microscopic cauliflower heads," she says.

It's very clearly a fresh layer. Right below it she finds much more typical seafloor mud. And in that layer, she finds recently dead shrimp, worms and other invertebrates.

What a fucking shame.

243 TedStriker  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:02:41pm

re: #231 Lidane

Oh, that's hilarious.

It was only a matter of time really. I'm shocked it took them this long to call you a liberal plant.

re: #239 Lidane

So because Fox News did their job for once and reported that Pam's freakshow got less than 1000 people, and Geraldo pretty much pointed and laughed at her to her face, it's now a network overrun by teh ebil Mooslims?

Too funny.

Bigoted and xenophobic paranoia will do that to a person...

244 Irenicum  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:06:19pm

So howzit going fellow kiddos?

245 TedStriker  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:07:11pm

re: #120 SanFranciscoZionist

No, I think he's just saying that Obama is bad because his father was African. It's pretty damn simple.

I'm pretty sure that "sins of the father" isn't a valid charge against anyone, including President Obama...and it shouldn't be, in this day and age. Everyone stands on their own merits and accomplishments, but the wacko wingnuts don't have two functioning brain cells among them to consider that, not if there's political hay to be made.

246 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:08:43pm

re: #245 talon_262

I'm pretty sure that "sins of the father" isn't a valid charge against anyone, including President Obama...and it shouldn't be, in this day and age. Everyone stands on their own merits and accomplishments, but the wacko wingnuts don't have two functioning brain cells among them to consider that, not if there's political hay to be made.

This is pretty bad stuff. He's controlled by the ghost of his father? WTF?

247 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:08:45pm

re: #244 Irenicum

So howzit going fellow kiddos?

The usual.

Moscow burning. Missiles heading towards New York. Film at 11.

248 Irenicum  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:09:38pm

Aww shit. I hate not having cable.

249 Irenicum  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:11:20pm

I'm just glad to know Jimmy Jazz.

250 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:11:28pm

Nice battle for the bottom 10. Evening (or morning) Honcos.

251 Irenicum  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:12:10pm

re: #250 Cannadian Club Akbar

Who dat be?

252 laZardo  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:12:36pm

I see conservative bigotry predictably dominates the news.

253 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:14:31pm

re: #252 laZardo

I see conservative bigotry predictably dominates the news.

Says more about the media than it does the bigots. That they feel that giving the bigots screen-time, and thus a larger audience, makes me feel more and more vindicated in swearing off cable news and newspapers years ago.

254 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:14:49pm

re: #251 Irenicum

Who dat be?

Top bottom.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
laZardo has the top goodie.

255 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:15:23pm

re: #250 Cannadian Club Akbar

Nice battle for the bottom 10. Evening (or morning) Honcos.

Fricking kwisatz haderach convention.

256 Irenicum  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:17:14pm

re: #254 Cannadian Club Akbar
Ah. Appropriately down dinged.

257 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:17:36pm

I don't know if I hate the History Channel or love it. Fuck.

258 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:18:32pm

re: #257 Cannadian Club Akbar

I don't know if I hate the History Channel or love it. Fuck.

Why do you hate WWII?
/

259 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:19:43pm

re: #257 Cannadian Club Akbar

I don't know if I hate the History Channel or love it. Fuck.

I just watched that same show. It will bring you back 9 years. Be prepared to get angry again.

260 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:19:54pm

re: #258 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Why do you hate WWII?
/

I'm split. I'm half Polish and half German.

261 Irenicum  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:20:34pm

Why is Mr Guinness my close friend?

262 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:20:36pm

re: #259 NJDhockeyfan

I just watched that same show. It will bring you back 9 years. Be prepared to get angry again.

I never stopped being angry.

263 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:20:50pm

Saint of 9/11

264 jaunte  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:22:06pm

re: #261 Irenicum

He has some good pints.
Image: guinness.jpg

265 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:22:58pm

re: #262 Cannadian Club Akbar

I never stopped being angry.

I never have either. The feeling felt worse the day they attacked us. I suggest Bourbon while watching that show. It helped me.

266 Irenicum  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:23:41pm

re: #262 Cannadian Club Akbar

9/11 is not what I wanted it to be.

267 Irenicum  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:24:22pm

re: #264 jaunte

I could drink that.

268 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:24:40pm

re: #265 NJDhockeyfan

I never have either. The feeling felt worse the day they attacked us. I suggest Bourbon while watching that show. It helped me.

I have a blend. Not enough, though.

269 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:24:51pm

re: #266 Irenicum

9/11 is not what I wanted it to be.

What did you want it to be?

270 Irenicum  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:25:34pm

re: #269 NJDhockeyfan

A world changing event. It wasn't.

271 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:26:08pm

re: #270 Irenicum

A world changing event. It wasn't.

I suppose it changed the world. It just didn't change the way the world WAS.

272 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:26:39pm

re: #270 Irenicum

A world changing event. It wasn't.

We are America. Everyone else can fuck off.

273 Ojoe  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:27:10pm

re: #31 darthstar

I like pineapple on pizza, too.

Except, not pineapple and anchovies on the same slice.

Good night.

274 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:27:19pm

re: #268 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have a blend. Not enough, though.

I finished off the Jack Daniels. It's still wonderful stuff.

275 Irenicum  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:27:50pm

re: #272 Cannadian Club Akbar

That's my problem.

276 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:29:42pm

re: #275 Irenicum

That's my problem.

OK. The rest of the world can bite me?
/

277 Ojoe  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:31:35pm

re: #225 NJDhockeyfan

There is an old Israel hater with a bi-weekly show on the local MPR station here, it is very vile. The atmosphere is thickening.

278 Irenicum  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:32:30pm

re: #276 Cannadian Club Akbar

I totally understand that. But the world is very complicated.

279 JRCMYP  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:32:44pm

OH MY FUCKING GOD. That's fucking, fucking, fucking, fucking INFURIATING.

FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKING FUCK FACE.

Whew. I feel better. now.

280 Ojoe  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:33:16pm

re: #277 Ojoe

MPR = NPR

PIMF

BBL

281 Irenicum  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:33:44pm

re: #279 JRCMYP

Um, why?

282 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:34:27pm

re: #278 Irenicum

I totally understand that. But the world is very complicated.

I betchya a dollar I know world politics better than Joe Biden.

283 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:34:59pm

re: #278 Irenicum

I totally understand that. But the world is very complicated.

We are the best country in the world, hands down. If someone from another country doesn't like it, too fucking bad. That is not complicated.

284 Irenicum  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:35:26pm

As an aside kiddos I am so glad I'm listening to The Clash.

285 laZardo  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:36:38pm

re: #280 Ojoe

MPR = NPR

PIMF

BBL

LUL K

286 Irenicum  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:37:16pm

re: #283 NJDhockeyfan

Yes. I'm glad I was born here to. No country is the best country by the way.

287 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:37:53pm

re: #277 Ojoe

There is an old Israel hater with a bi-weekly show on the local MPR station here, it is very vile. The atmosphere is thickening.

Not surprising. You are in California, correct? It's no secret there is a large amount of revolting hateful leftists in California who support terrorists like Hamas.

288 laZardo  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:38:03pm

re: #286 Irenicum

Yes. I'm glad I was born here to. No country is the best country by the way.

BUT NORTH KOREA IS BEST KOREA.

/ O:

289 Kragar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:38:03pm

re: #286 Irenicum

Yes. I'm glad I was born here to. No country is the best country by the way.

Kragaristan excluded.

290 Irenicum  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:38:51pm

re: #287 NJDhockeyfan

Haha!

291 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:38:53pm

re: #288 laZardo

BUT NORTH KOREA IS BEST KOREA.

/ O:

re: #289 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Kragaristan excluded.

Not sure to upding first!!!

292 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:39:11pm

re: #286 Irenicum

Yes. I'm glad I was born here to. No country is the best country by the way.

America is the best.

293 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:39:37pm

re: #270 Irenicum

A world changing event. It wasn't.

Of course it was. Ask the people of Spain and the UK who suffered serious terrorist attacked following 911. Ask the British soldiers that gave their lives in Afghanistan. Those that died fighting under the Multi-National Forces in Iraq. The world is a much different place then it was on 9/10/2001.

294 Lidane  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:40:26pm

re: #284 Irenicum

As an aside kiddos I am so glad I'm listening to The Clash.

My theme song for the evening:

Youtube Video
295 Irenicum  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:41:08pm

re: #292 NJDhockeyfan

Let all the others burn.

296 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:41:15pm

re: #293 Gus 802

Of course it was. Ask the people of Spain and the UK who suffered serious terrorist attacked following 911. Ask the British soldiers that gave their lives in Afghanistan. Those that died fighting under the Multi-National Forces in Iraq. The world is a much different place then it was on 9/10/2001.

Excellent post.

297 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:41:42pm

re: #296 NJDhockeyfan

Excellent post.

Thanks.

298 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:42:14pm

re: #295 Irenicum

Let all the others burn.

They will burn? Why will they burn?

299 Irenicum  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:42:45pm

re: #293 Gus 802

Except for those it wasn't .

300 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:44:51pm

re: #294 Lidane

My theme song for the evening:


[Video]

Mine. I hate this:

Youtube Video
301 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:46:16pm

re: #299 Irenicum

Except for those it wasn't .

That happens. In fact it also happened during WWII even in the states. You can't expect everyone in the world to have at the very least even an emotional attachment. It happens with natural disasters all the time. Look at all those that died in the last great Tsunami or the 100,000s that died in Haiti.

302 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:50:41pm

They just read off a phone call. About 30 different fire divisions responding to ONE of the towers. God fucking danm it.

303 Gus  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:57:40pm

G'night.

304 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 10:57:53pm

re: #302 Cannadian Club Akbar

They just read off a phone call. About 30 different fire divisions responding to ONE of the towers. God fucking danm it.

My uncle was a cop in NJ (retired now) and lost a couple friends when the towers collapsed. It's amazing what those firefighters went threw right up to the moment the towers went down.

305 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 11:00:12pm

re: #304 NJDhockeyfan

My uncle was a cop in NJ (retired now) and lost a couple friends when the towers collapsed. It's amazing what those firefighters went threw right up to the moment the towers went down.

This is killing me. Fuck.

306 Lidane  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 11:02:42pm

re: #300 Cannadian Club Akbar

Honestly, even if my cable wasn't on the frtiz, I would have avoided my TV today like the plague.

I think the only time I sat in front of a TV today was when I played a little bit of Mass Effect 2 on the 360. I've spent more time online or with my iPod plugged in than anything else. I think it's kept me sane today, and not getting pulled back into where I was nine years ago.

307 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 11:03:36pm

re: #305 Cannadian Club Akbar

This is killing me. Fuck.

I made it to the end of the show. It was not easy. I told you it would make you angry. Those fucking cocksuckers attacked us. They will never get away with it.

308 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 11:04:42pm

re: #306 Lidane

Honestly, even if my cable wasn't on the frtiz, I would have avoided my TV today like the plague.

I think the only time I sat in front of a TV today was when I played a little bit of Mass Effect 2 on the 360. I've spent more time online or with my iPod plugged in than anything else. I think it's kept me sane today, and not getting pulled back into where I was nine years ago.

This is a very tough show to watch. Be glad you aren't watching it.

309 Lidane  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 11:08:29pm

re: #308 NJDhockeyfan

This is a very tough show to watch. Be glad you aren't watching it.

From the sounds of it, I'm glad I'm not. Not because I want to forget what happened or anything, but because I still remember how I felt when it happened (I pretty much cried for weeks over it because it was so senseless), and I saw the whole thing all over again when they showed that documentary by those French filmmaker brothers. That's enough for me.

310 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 11:09:04pm

re: #307 NJDhockeyfan

I made it to the end of the show. It was not easy. I told you it would make you angry. Those fucking cocksuckers attacked us. They will never get away with it.

They want it? They got it. Fuck them. There is no crying about shit at this point. Fuck them.

311 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 11:12:14pm

re: #310 Cannadian Club Akbar

They want it? They got it. Fuck them. There is no crying about shit at this point. Fuck them.

Amen brother. I'm glad I watched it. I don't want my anger to go away. I want justice, death to all those responsible.

312 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 11, 2010 11:13:17pm

I gotta go to bed. Tomorrow is a new day. I hope everyone has a great weekend.

313 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 12:25:51am

Just tried to read this before coffee. I thought it said Obama had a "Keynsian" world view, which had me nodding in agreement for a second until I read the rest of the comments.

Hey, he is a ferner, probably not even Christian. No wonder he is out of touch with those who believe in minimal taxation and government, but a strong military and strict restrictions on abortions and gay rights in the military...

And everybody knows that the best way to stimulate any economy is to let the upper income brackets keep more money to reinvet in well-paiying domestic jobs.

/

314 Randall Gross  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 4:25:03am

I haven't read the whole thread, but I am hoping that someone remembered to point out that Dinesh is a Discovery Institute shill?

Did anyone else point out that Newt is a Neoconfederate historian who has alternate history fantasies about the South winning the Civil War?

Of course all indicators are that he's boarding the Becktard bandwagon since the next book is going to be a Novel about George Washington...

315 Jeff In Ohio  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 5:45:41am

re: #76 jaunte

He's trying to say (clumsily) that Obama is his father. Kenyan, socialist, philandering, drunk.

translation: black, lazy, oversexed, addled.

Sorry I missed this thread last night.

316 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 6:07:11am

re: #56 darthstar

Newt's more pre-colonial.

I think prehistoric is the word you're looking for in this case.

317 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 6:09:57am

re: #73 Max D. Reinhardt

I'm confused. Is he saying that Obama's father is an "African socialist" or is he talking about Obama himself?

I'm confused by the "dreams of his son" part. As far as I know, Barack Obama doesn't have a son.

Still, Mr. D'Souza is using very choppy sentence structure. He's a terrible writer.

Doesn't matter. When you've got a prepackaged audience you don't need to be a good writer. As long as you satisfy the audience's expectations.

Sort of like Star Trek and Twilight, but in politics.

318 ihateronpaul  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 6:36:04am

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH BEING AGAINST COLONIALISM.

This is what colonialism brings:
death
persecution
slavery
war
destruction of ancient traditions

319 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 7:10:42am

This "insight" is totally worthless save that it reinforces the preconceptions that Obama is "foreign", non-American, and probably not even Christian.

Obama is a lot more American than a lot of people want to admit and they are having problems with that to this day, even after he has been president for a year and a half already.

320 Lidane  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 9:35:10am

re: #317 Romantic Heretic

Sort of like Star Trek and Twilight, but in politics.

Star Trek > Twilight. There's not even a comparison.

For all its flaws, Star Trek at least had some interesting characters and plot lines that went somewhere. Twilight? Not so much. I subjected myself to the first Twilight book and was so irritated by it I immediately threw it in the trash when I was done. Even my inner 16-year old was cringing. It's terrible.

/nerd

321 Lidane  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 9:37:21am

re: #318 ihateronpaul

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH BEING AGAINST COLONIALISM.

Does it matter? It's just another thing to yell at Obama about, and the rubes who fall for it are too stupid to realize that being an anti-colonialist is actually a GOOD thing.

322 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 10:29:37am

re: #287 NJDhockeyfan

Not surprising. You are in California, correct? It's no secret there is a large amount of revolting hateful leftists in California who support terrorists like Hamas.

Oh man here comes the wingnut crazy train

Tell us more about Kos, dude! Give us the full mandy! You're very original and have many compelling thoughts that none of us have ever heard before!

323 mikhailtheplumber  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 12:04:28pm

I don't think even the FOX News talkingheads are going to pick this Kenain anti-colonialist mindview thingy. While it is not entirely-overtly racist enough, it's too wordy for the viewers.

324 Timmeh  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 7:38:29pm

re: #24 jaunte

So, here's D'Souza's big 'anti-colonialist' insight, bolded:

That is one one of the most offensive and blatantly racist things I've read coming from someone who is supposedly an intellectual.

325 Timmeh  Sun, Sep 12, 2010 8:38:48pm

re: #99 jaunte

D'Souza also thinks liberals caused 9/11:

D'Souza is a lying little rat. His latest propaganda includes a claim that "from now on the primary mission of America's space agency would be to improve relations with the Muslim world." Only problem is that that's not what Bolden said at all. He said nothing about that being NASA's "primary mission."

326 beeds  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 9:28:07pm

How is this racist? Just because Kenya is in Africa makes this a racist comment? What if Obama were a white guy who's dad was from Sweden and Newt had said that "Obama follows an anti-colonial Swedish World View." Would this be racist? No. So the only reason it's racist is because Kenyans happen to be black? I think it's racist to hold Kenyans to a lower standard than you would if he were Swedish!

327 tnguitarist  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:14:20am

re: #326 beeds

Obama is an American, not a Kenyan. Go away and come back with a better talking point.

328 sagehen  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:12:10am

things found on other blogs relevant to this topic:

Campus Progress demonstrates that Dinesh D'Souza has been publishing appallingly racist material for decades.

Best comment I've seen on Newt (found at another blog):
It's like he forgot his dog whistle at home and thought, "Fuck it, I'll just play the tuba."

329 beeds  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:44:14pm

re: #327 tnguitarist

I never said he was from Kenya. I am fully aware and acknowledge that he is American. If you read what I wrote, you'll see that I said; "...if Obama were a white guy who's dad was from Sweden..." this implies that I understand that Obama's father is from Kenya.
Again, I don't understand how it's racist to accuse someone of holding a world view that is in alignment with that of a country who's demographics happen to consist of native Africans. Again, how is this racist? Does this mean we can't disagree with a world view held by people from Africa?..because it would be considered racist?
Telling me to "go away" is proof that you've lost the argument.
I welcome your comments....bring 'em.

330 tnguitarist  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 1:29:19am

re: #329 beeds

You know damn good and well what Newt is implying. Explain exactly what a Kenyan world view is. Do you even know where Kenya is?

When did "anti-colonial" become a bad thing? Anti-colonial like our founding fathers?

331 beeds  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:02:20am

re: #330 tnguitarist

damn, you got met....I don't know where Kenya is. Maybe I should've researched that a bit more.
I agree, I think anti-colonialism is a good thing. But, I don't think it's racist for someone to disagree.


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