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1 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 10:19:29pm

A very good effort from the autotune folks this time. @1:25 the singer from weezer (I don't know his name) does an epic performance probably 15 feet away from the mic with no reverb or processing. Nice pipes.
Also they pulled the most awesome line from Weiner's smackdown...

"The gentleman is correct in sitting"
Where in the hell did he learn to smack someone around like that with parliamentary procedure?

2 brookly red  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 10:34:24pm

*sigh* funny & well done.
if only it were all that that easy... but this is serious shit.

3 Cato the Elder  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 10:36:24pm

The gentleman is correct in sitting...and spinning.

4 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 10:39:35pm

A real hero does an interview...

EXCLUSIVE: 1st Living Medal of Honor Winner Since Vietnam Tells His Story

America's first living recipient of the Medal of Honor since the Vietnam War says the heroic actions he undertook in Afghanistan are as brave as what every American soldier experiences day in and day out during their tours of duty in that country.

Last week, Army Staff Sgt. Salvatore Giunta was named as the first living recipient of America's highest medal for valor since the start of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The previous seven awards have been posthumous.

In his first broadcast network interview since being named to receive the honor, Giunta told ABC News' Martha Raddatz that America's forces in Afghanistan act with "immense bravery" doing "above and beyond anything that should ever be asked of them."

[snip]

5 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 10:46:43pm

Rangel was the best. Well, him and the Islamic stripper.

Someone commented about that speech that it seemed likely he would start to sing "And I Am Telling You I'm Not Going" at some point.

6 brookly red  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 10:47:23pm

re: #4 NJDhockeyfan

A real hero does an interview...

EXCLUSIVE: 1st Living Medal of Honor Winner Since Vietnam Tells His Story

like I said serious shit.

7 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 11:04:14pm

Very nice...

Third Iranian Diplomat Defects

Amidst increasing international pressure on Iran’s nuclear program, and continued controversy for the delayed release of one of three American hikers, reports come of a third Iranian diplomat defecting in Europe.

Farzad Farhangian, the press attaché at the Iranian Embassy in Brussels, left the embassy and defected to Norway on Friday, AP reported.

Farhangian follows the defections of two other Iranian diplomats, Hossein Alizadeh, who defected last Monday; and Mohammed Reza Heydari, who defected in January.

"I don't consider myself anymore a diplomat standing beside a brutal Iranian regime," said Alizadeh in an interview with the AP.

The defections symbolize the Iranian regime’s power slipping further and further from a people with exceedingly high discontent for the ruling power, say analysts.

8 brookly red  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 11:09:46pm

re: #7 NJDhockeyfan

Very nice...

Third Iranian Diplomat Defects

or they are just playing us... they love the stall game. If these guys had real issues they could have jumped long ago... f'em. rats from a sinking ship are still rats.

9 Lidane  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 11:11:10pm
10 Cato the Elder  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 11:19:27pm

re: #8 brookly red

And asses like you are still asses.

11 brookly red  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 11:21:09pm

re: #10 Cato the Elder

And asses like you are still asses.

go fart dust you old wind bag.

12 shai_au  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 11:27:18pm

I'm beginning to get really, really tired of Auto-Tune. Not just in this, but in... oh, every second song I hear on the radio.

I turn the radio off, but then I hear it in shops too. Auto-Tune everywhere. :(

13 Cato the Elder  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 11:28:01pm

re: #11 brookly red

Go find Miss Manners and piss up her rope, wingnut.

14 brookly red  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 11:29:26pm

re: #12 shai_au

I'm beginning to get really, really tired of Auto-Tune. Not just in this, but in... oh, every second song I hear on the radio.

I turn the radio off, but then I hear it in shops too. Auto-Tune everywhere. :(

hey just ignore it...

15 shai_au  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 11:33:12pm

re: #14 brookly red

hey just ignore it...

I try to. I'm just saying that as far as new trends in music go, liberal use of Auto-Tune is one of my pet hates.

Damn you, Cher. It's all your fault.

16 brookly red  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 11:35:48pm

re: #15 shai_au

I try to. I'm just saying that as far as new trends in music go, liberal use of Auto-Tune is one of my pet hates.

Damn you, Cher. It's all your fault.

new trend? not so much... you would be surprised at how much bullshit you can unload by just saying uh no thank you.

17 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 11:45:01pm

re: #12 shai_au

I'm beginning to get really, really tired of Auto-Tune. Not just in this, but in... oh, every second song I hear on the radio.

I turn the radio off, but then I hear it in shops too. Auto-Tune everywhere. :(

Autotunes is to this decade what electronic percussion was to the 80's...the slow death of pop music.

But the AT was used here creatively and to great effect, unlike most of its applications on the airwaves.

18 shai_au  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 11:45:23pm

re: #16 brookly red

new trend? not so much... you would be surprised at how much bullshit you can unload by just saying uh no thank you.

On the first point... using Auto-Tune to make your voice sound all weird and robotic is a relatively new trend, although I do realise that the technology has been used for pitch correction in the past.

On the second point, I have no idea what you are actually trying to say. That I can just close my ears and pretend that something doesn't annoy me?

No, it's not the worst thing ever, and as far as daily irritations go it's relatively easily ignored. But since the original subject of this thread involves Auto-Tune, I thought I would add my two cents on the current use of the technology. You don't have to agree. :)

19 brookly red  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 11:48:24pm

re: #18 shai_au

On the first point... using Auto-Tune to make your voice sound all weird and robotic is a relatively new trend, although I do realise that the technology has been used for pitch correction in the past.

On the second point, I have no idea what you are actually trying to say. That I can just close my ears and pretend that something doesn't annoy me?

No, it's not the worst thing ever, and as far as daily irritations go it's relatively easily ignored. But since the original subject of this thread involves Auto-Tune, I thought I would add my two cents on the current use of the technology. You don't have to agree. :)

I neither agree or disagree, you either give it the power to annoy you or you don't. But I do agree it is annoying for sure.

20 shai_au  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 11:48:38pm

re: #17 ralphieboy

Autotunes is to this decade what electronic percussion was to the 80's...the slow death of pop music.

But the AT was used here creatively and to great effect, unlike most of its applications on the airwaves.

Yeah, I do appreciate the comedic aspect of this. And it is way better than it is on the airwaves.

Interesting comparison to electronic percussion. I suppose that they both have a similar effect of making everything sound samey, although I think that AT is far worse in this regard.

21 sagehen  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 11:51:53pm

re: #7 NJDhockeyfan

Very nice...

Third Iranian Diplomat Defects

It's the Green People, working house by house, mom's canasta partner's husband's cousin's neighbor finally being persuaded when he heard what the basij did to his nephew's babysitter's boyfriend's professor... and they each told two people, and they each told two people...

All we need to do is not be caught taking any action at all. Maybe drop a comment every now and then, as long as we're appropriately subtle about it.

22 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 11:53:22pm

re: #20 shai_au


Interesting comparison to electronic percussion. I suppose that they both have a similar effect of making everything sound samey, although I think that AT is far worse in this regard.

It was the same syndrome, a popular artist uses it for effect (as Linda Ronstadt did with electronic whoompy drums and Cher with the auto tune) and lesser artists start emulating them by slapping it on with a trowel.

23 Irenicum  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 11:55:44pm

OK, that was a well deserved late night (East Coast) laugh. Frikkin' brilliant.

24 Irenicum  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:02:31am

re: #23 Irenicum

Holy cow! I just checked my blog change and I saw that I was at 7500. Thanks for the love gang! BTW, check out my new link. Just a wee bit more adult. As Popeye would say, I yam what I yam.

25 Irenicum  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:04:38am

Oh, that's right. This is the quiet time in Lizard land. It's been a while since I've frequented this time zone.

26 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:16:12am

re: #24 Irenicum

BTW, check out my new link. Just a wee bit more adult.

James Dobson would not approve!

It's a good nude shot, but definitely veers into the erotic. A year or so ago someone (a photo student) asked me why I don't shoot nudes - and I said I don't like shooting people. (Nudes are a very difficult subject.) Another person (photographer) said I should shoot erotica - sounds even more difficult!

In both cases the people were ... women! Yes, really. Maybe I should have taken it as hints...

27 Kragar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:28:46am

Another day or two and then I should have the last of my Space Wolves done, then I can set in on the Imperial Guard troops I just got with my full attention. I am going to need to build a new CO from scratch using various bits and peices I have lying around, so that will take a day or so, but I can assemble him as I get the rest of my team together. Thinking about documenting the whole process with my new camera and showing the steps, from fresh out the box to table ready models.

28 tnguitarist  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:30:28am

I was just checking out all the old threads. I'll say this again. If all those trolls are convinced that their arguments are so strong, why not come debate in a fresh thread?

29 Kragar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:31:50am

re: #28 tnguitarist

I was just checking out all the old threads. I'll say this again. If all those trolls are convinced that their arguments are so strong, why not come debate in a fresh thread?

Because they're pussies.

30 tnguitarist  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:34:09am

re: #29 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Because they're pussies.

I call em possums. They come out in the dark and play dead when they get caught.

31 Irenicum  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:41:30am

re: #26 freetoken

I sure as hell hope he wouldn't. I've always loved the female form. The background pic is Laetitia Casta. Exquisite doesn't begin to describe her. Truly a heavenly body.

32 Irenicum  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:45:45am

re: #26 freetoken

BTW. I've drawn female nudes a few times. They are difficult but well worth it. I find them more challenging than males, but artistically more worthwhile.

33 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:46:44am

re: #28 tnguitarist

Because they're cowards?

34 boredtechindenver  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:49:41am

Late night lizards, my home buying search continues. The house I would love to get, SWMBO does not like. The house she likes, I am ehh. The house that is number two for both of us is at the upper end, if not above, what I qualify for, and my mortgage guy is not answering email or phone calls. She wants newer houses, and the area I am looking at needs to be less then 5 miles from my mother's house, since I am mowing, and shoveling snow, does not have a lot of new houses, since it was mostly developed in the 40s and 50s. Bedrooms were smaller, closets were smaller, and there were fewer open floorplans that you see in modern houses.

None of the neighborhoods are bad, two of the three are ethnically diverse that I can see right away, and all three probably are. My favorite house has over a quarter acre of lawn, and number two is just under, which is strange, since i have hated mowing since I had to start mowing my parents lawn.

What is troubling to me, the homes I like the most, have the best yards, and I am not really a fan of "The Big Blue Room". I should really be looking for a house with a gas stove, fully remodeled interiors, etc, and ethernet wiring installed, along with wireless access.

35 laZardo  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:52:01am

re: #4 NJDhockeyfan

That's a real Tier One Operator guy right there.

/i loves the vidya.

36 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:53:32am

re: #32 Irenicum

BTW. I've drawn female nudes a few times. They are difficult but well worth it. I find them more challenging than males, but artistically more worthwhile.

Drawing the figure is like eating your vegetables as an artist, it makes you stronger :D

My biggest challenges were always reclining nudes (argh foreshortening and weight hangs differently) and hands, hands require so much attention to get right

37 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:53:46am

re: #34 boredtechindenver

Property is always a compromise, unless you truly are independently wealthy, in which cases there are still compromises but just nicer ones.

38 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:54:20am

re: #28 tnguitarist

I was just checking out all the old threads. I'll say this again. If all those trolls are convinced that their arguments are so strong, why not come debate in a fresh thread?

it's sorta like blog vandalism, they're not really capable of an argument, they just want to tag the blog and leave

39 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:55:30am

re: #34 boredtechindenver

I'm all about the exposed ethernet cable snaking through the house, but then again my apartment is covered with art supplies and insane cats :D

40 laZardo  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:56:18am

re: #36 WindUpBird

Drawing the figure is like eating your vegetables as an artist, it makes you stronger :D

My biggest challenges were always reclining nudes (argh foreshortening and weight hangs differently) and hands, hands require so much attention to get right

So if I've used yaoi to improve my grasp of anatomy (no pun intended, links NOT NSFW) then would it be like drinking protein shakes?

41 boredtechindenver  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:56:19am

re: #36 WindUpBird

Drawing the figure is like eating your vegetables as an artist, it makes you stronger :D

My biggest challenges were always reclining nudes (argh foreshortening and weight hangs differently) and hands, hands require so much attention to get right

My biggest challenges are hands, faces, bodies, and a large lack of artistic talent in the non-theatrical visual arts.

(why can i compose a photograph or video?)

42 Kragar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:56:42am

Wireless is the devil's tool.

43 boredtechindenver  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:57:56am

re: #39 WindUpBird

I'm all about the exposed ethernet cable snaking through the house, but then again my apartment is covered with art supplies and insane cats :D

I have had exposed cabling and insane cats at the same time. Wireless is a godsend. and for the last week, Wireless N+ is a bigger godsend.

44 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:58:43am

re: #40 laZardo

So if I've used yaoi to improve my grasp of anatomy (no pun intended, links NOT NSFW) then would it be like drinking protein shakes?

Eh, the thing with using other peoples art as your reference is you're learning from their abstractions, not from the source

It's more like eating the ginger that comes with sushi :D

45 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:01:32am

re: #43 boredtechindenver

I have had exposed cabling and insane cats at the same time. Wireless is a godsend. and for the last week, Wireless N+ is a bigger godsend.

I have not tried the N+! My laptop is on its way to ragnarok and my wireless card is failing :( Works for a while, drops out, works again, drops out, the beater desktops with the eithernet cable behave better

I'm pricing a desktop-machine-from-hell, after all these creaky laptops, I need something big that just works

46 laZardo  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:01:46am

re: #44 WindUpBird

Eh, the thing with using other peoples art as your reference is you're learning from their abstractions, not from the source

It's more like eating the ginger that comes with sushi :D

Oh God. I remember doing that on a JAL plane trip, my face soured up real nasty.

47 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:02:27am

re: #46 laZardo

Oh God. I remember doing that on a JAL plane trip, my face soured up real nasty.

It's strangely addictive tho o_o

48 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:03:13am

re: #47 WindUpBird

Love the ginger!!

49 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:03:37am
50 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:04:03am

re: #48 freetoken

Love the ginger!!

I'll just eat it straight! Ginger is just a thing I like on anything, really REALLY strong ginger ale makes a great mixer

51 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:04:25am

Sigh... Youtube is not working for me again. Tried both Safari and Firefox.

Computers - the word of the devil.

52 Irenicum  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:04:41am

re: #44 WindUpBird

I prefer Mary Ann to Ginger.

53 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:05:01am

re: #51 freetoken

Sigh... Youtube is not working for me again. Tried both Safari and Firefox.

Computers - the word of the devil.

Computers and the internet, it's like cars and the freeway

54 boredtechindenver  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:07:39am

re: #45 WindUpBird

I have not tried the N+! My laptop is on its way to ragnarok and my wireless card is failing :( Works for a while, drops out, works again, drops out, the beater desktops with the eithernet cable behave better

I'm pricing a desktop-machine-from-hell, after all these creaky laptops, I need something big that just works

N+ only works if the wireless adapter is N+. Right after I replaced the old linksys 45WRTG with a linksys E3000, my lapdog decided that the wireless card would not hold a link. I am using an N+ USB adapter right now, and the speed is amazing. now the slowest connection on the home LAN is my 2G iphone.

55 boredtechindenver  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:09:36am

re: #50 WindUpBird

I'll just eat it straight! Ginger is just a thing I like on anything, really REALLY strong ginger ale makes a great mixer

re: #48 freetoken

Love the ginger!!

If I weren't Type 2 diabetic, i would eat candied ginger by the jar. I have to avoid gingersnaps as it is.

56 Irenicum  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:09:41am

re: #36 WindUpBird

Hands are definitely hard to get right. And foreshortening is definitely a challenge too. It's been years since I've drawn/sketched. I'm considering going back to it.

57 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:11:19am

re: #54 boredtechindenver

N+ only works if the wireless adapter is N+. Right after I replaced the old linksys 45WRTG with a linksys E3000, my lapdog decided that the wireless card would not hold a link. I am using an N+ USB adapter right now, and the speed is amazing. now the slowest connection on the home LAN is my 2G iphone.

haha I have a WRT54G right now, still lives after like four years, it'l probably get replaced with whatever is shiniest and fastest after I get my new machine

I'm looking forward to having a big fat awesome stationary computer that I can't drop and then break :D

58 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:11:27am

Neat music video added recently on Vimeo:

Nice camera work - done on a 7D.

59 Kragar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:11:52am

re: #56 Irenicum

Hands are definitely hard to get right. And foreshortening is definitely a challenge too. It's been years since I've drawn/sketched. I'm considering going back to it.

I used to draw quite a bit, gave it up building models.

60 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:12:19am

re: #56 Irenicum

Hands are definitely hard to get right. And foreshortening is definitely a challenge too. It's been years since I've drawn/sketched. I'm considering going back to it.

You can join my hell of drawing hands :D

61 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:13:08am

re: #59 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I used to draw quite a bit, gave it up building models.

sculpting *_*

62 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:14:52am

This seems weirdly appropriate to your discussion about women:

63 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:15:09am

There needs to be an LGF Oekaki so we can scribble nonsense on it, like a blog whiteboard

64 Kragar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:17:16am

re: #61 WindUpBird

sculpting *_*

Only used plaster and putty a few times. Built a set of bunkers and fortifications for 35-40mm scale. Made some tank traps, wire emplacements and mine fields as well.

65 Irenicum  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:18:09am

re: #64 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

This is such a male blog.

66 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:18:51am

re: #65 Irenicum

This is such a male blog.

Well, it does have more females than many online communities that discuss contemporary events.

67 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:19:15am

re: #64 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Only used plaster and putty a few times. Built a set of bunkers and fortifications for 35-40mm scale. Made some tank traps, wire emplacements and mine fields as well.


You work smaller than I do, I work on a scale of 1:1 :D

Which is probably a good thing because I have twitchy caffienated fingers and I'm terrible at dealing with anything in minature

68 Irenicum  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:19:20am

re: #66 freetoken

That is true.

69 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:19:54am

re: #65 Irenicum

This is such a male blog.

Not according to my wardrobe, but hey :D

70 boredtechindenver  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:21:23am

Man, I had a reply to WUB, but it seems I am only replying to him tonight.

aaahfugit.

re: #67 WindUpBird

Which is probably a good thing because I have twitchy caffienated fingers and I'm terrible at dealing with anything in minature

It is probably good then, that I am straight and you aren't my bf.
/////

71 Kragar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:22:08am

re: #67 WindUpBird

You work smaller than I do, I work on a scale of 1:1 :D

Which is probably a good thing because I have twitchy caffienated fingers and I'm terrible at dealing with anything in minature

Yeah, its a real pain in the ass at times, I work at about the 1/35 to 1/48 scale.

72 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:22:31am

re: #70 boredtechindenver

Man, I had a reply to WUB, but it seems I am only replying to him tonight.

aaahfugit.

It is probably good then, that I am straight and you aren't my bf.
///

ahah RIMSHOT!

Yeah, I'm here because I'm tired of making sprites tonight, it's giving me a headache

73 Irenicum  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:23:16am

Damn. Is it really this late?

74 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:23:42am

re: #71 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yeah, its a real pain in the ass at times, I work at about the 1/35 to 1/48 scale.

You're probably a very patient person o_o

My mother was all about the miniatures, really into detail, taking photo references of buildings to match the molding

75 laZardo  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:24:52am

re: #66 freetoken

Well, it does have more females than many online communities that discuss contemporary events.

From my experience, the most feminine of internet users happen to be gay males.

Just sayin'. O:

76 Kragar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:25:45am

re: #74 WindUpBird

You're probably a very patient person o_o

My mother was all about the miniatures, really into detail, taking photo references of buildings to match the molding

I find it relaxing.

77 boredtechindenver  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:26:51am

K, WUB, you have great taste, (guessing that anyone who wears a costume that Bjork would drape around her shoulders has great taste).

This or this?

(not being snarky on the Bjork comment, i think the swan outfit achieved what it wanted. attention, and a fashion attack or attack on mainstream fashion)

78 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:27:05am

Turns out Vimeo has a video of a photographer and female nude work:

The work seems to put the female in a harsh environment.

79 Irenicum  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:28:51am

re: #75 laZardo

I agree.

80 tnguitarist  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:30:11am

re: #77 boredtechindenver

Wow, I am used to much cheaper property. You could get a place like that for probably $150,000 in these parts. Maybe cheaper.

81 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:30:32am

re: #77 boredtechindenver

K, WUB, you have great taste, (guessing that anyone who wears a costume that Bjork would drape around her shoulders has great taste).

This or this?

(not being snarky on the Bjork comment, i think the swan outfit achieved what it wanted. attention, and a fashion attack or attack on mainstream fashion)

I love Bjork and her swan outfits :D

I also love Lady gagas bizarro futurist latex outfits, very cool


And on the houses, oh GOD the first one because of the interior, no contest whatsoever

82 laZardo  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:31:41am

re: #71 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yeah, its a real pain in the ass at times, I work at about the 1/35 to 1/48 scale.

At least you get to work with big-enough parts. Or did that make it more difficult assembling more parts than 1/72?

/i'm not very good at what i do...

83 Irenicum  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:32:01am

Mmm, Lady Gaga and meat outfits. So many puns, so little time.

84 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:32:48am

re: #83 Irenicum

Mmm, Lady Gaga and meat outfits. So many puns, so little time.

I don't know about the meat, I just like her cyberpunk new wave looks :D

85 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:33:19am

re: #77 boredtechindenver

I look at those two and what goes through my mind is "what a lot of work to maintain."

86 boredtechindenver  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:33:44am

re: #83 Irenicum

Mmm, Lady Gaga and meat outfits.

I just saw that photo today. I also saw her explanation, and i find it completely plausible. I would have gone further and told PETA, "It symbolizes how people and animals are all pieces of meat to the corporate machine."

87 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:34:10am

re: #77 boredtechindenver

The 5th picture. where you can see the angled ceiling and the little windows, that is awesome right there, that room is a room I would love to have

88 Irenicum  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:35:20am

re: #84 WindUpBird

No matter the cut, I like how re-"veal"-ing it is.

89 boredtechindenver  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:36:20am
90 Irenicum  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:37:08am

And on that happy note, g'nite.

91 laZardo  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:37:56am

re: #89 boredtechindenver

Vogue: Hommes Japan

Suddenly, it all makes sense.

92 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:43:14am
93 boredtechindenver  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:46:36am

re: #87 WindUpBird

The 5th picture. where you can see the angled ceiling and the little windows, that is awesome right there, that room is a room I would love to have

That would be the living room. the room beyond is the sunroom with the three floor to ceiling windows, and there is a fireplace on the other side. I think that the sunroom was the original patio, and it was enclosed, since the hallway is exposed brick on the back of the garage.

The other link, the house has wainscotting all around and has a combo country house, 50s post war feel. That is because it was actually built that way. The back was the original, and the kitchen, livingroom was added on in the late 40s, early 50s. That is the house I really want, and I can't explain it other than it feels like my great grandmother's house. And it is nothing like her house, it is just a feeling. The only way I could explain it to my mother is that the reason she had my father buy the mountain property they built on, was that it reminded her of the house that the same great grandmother had in a different town, when my mother was growing up. The same woman evokes a feeling of home in both my mother and myself, but from two different houses we knew from the same stages in our lives.

94 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:51:29am

re: #93 boredtechindenver

The psychology of houses and living spaces is very interesting to me! I've slowly figured out I am not all that particular about how my living space is shaped, but I'm obsessed with light and the lighting in rooms. I dig the creaky Portland craftsman homes that are all over here, they all have big porches, and porches are always a good thing :D

95 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:53:53am

re: #94 WindUpBird

...but I'm obsessed with light and the lighting in rooms.

Over the years I've discovered that I prefer bright rooms - like windows. That is second only to quiet (no street noises or neighbor noises.)

Like you, the shape per se has not been a big thing with me. I do hate narrow doorways, though.

96 boredtechindenver  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:57:43am

I know of only one craftsman style house in the area I grew up in. It was for sale 3 or 4 times in the last 10 years, and I am sure it had a cracked foundation. I still wanted to buy it, but never looked at buying.

97 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:58:02am

re: #95 freetoken

Over the years I've discovered that I prefer bright rooms - like windows. That is second only to quiet (no street noises or neighbor noises.)

Like you, the shape per se has not been a big thing with me. I do hate narrow doorways, though.

Oh FUCK not me, I go nuts if rooms are too bright :D

I like lots of indirect light aimed at walls so as not to create strong shadows, strong shadows are my enemy when I'm drawing, and bright rooms play havoc with reflections on my computer, and I like ambient colored light, so little Ikea LEDs, christmas lights, etc

I actually don't really notice the lack of quiet, I live near a freeway and have loud (though nice) neighbors, I just spend too much time on headphones, I just tune the world out, the quietest place I ever lived (Maple Valley, WA) was almost conspicuously quiet, it sorta made me unconfortable, like every noise I made was twice as loud

98 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 1:58:59am

re: #96 boredtechindenver

I know of only one craftsman style house in the area I grew up in. It was for sale 3 or 4 times in the last 10 years, and I am sure it had a cracked foundation. I still wanted to buy it, but never looked at buying.

Portland is crawling with these things: Image: 72418813_1-Pictures-of-Portland-Realtor-presents-Beautiful-Grand-Craftsman-Bungalow-In-Alberta-Arts.jpg

That's a nice one, there's a lot of banged up ones as well

99 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:01:54am

and on the flip side:

100 boredtechindenver  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:04:24am

Sunroom with northern exposure windows between the house and the garage.

Image: 938463-5.jpg

101 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:28:06am

I have bacon, pancakes, sausage, scrambled eggs with cheese. Envy me now.
/half

102 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:29:07am

re: #101 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have bacon, pancakes, sausage, scrambled eggs with cheese. Envy me now.
/half

My Imperial Troopers are heading your way to make toast.
Out of you.

103 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:29:41am
104 boredtechindenver  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:31:51am

re: #101 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have bacon, pancakes, sausage, scrambled eggs with cheese. Envy me now.

well, i am starting my blood draw fast, so i don't envy you, damn you. Yes I do.

and i hope the scrambled eggs are runnier than when your brother was hung over.

//

105 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:32:32am

re: #101 Cannadian Club Akbar

Sigh... I'm about to have some tuna...

106 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:35:24am

re: #104 boredtechindenver

well, i am starting my blood draw fast, so i don't envy you, damn you. Yes I do.

and i hope the scrambled eggs are runnier than when your brother was hung over.

//

OH SNAP!
/

107 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:35:42am

re: #105 freetoken

Sigh... I'm about to have some tuna...

Canned or fillets?

108 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:36:43am

re: #107 Cannadian Club Akbar

Just canned.

I'm trying to get down to my dance weight. Low calorie, high protein.

109 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:37:49am

re: #108 freetoken

Just canned.

I'm trying to get down to my dance weight. Low calorie, high protein.

Always buy tuna in oil. Water sucks.

110 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:39:09am

re: #109 Cannadian Club Akbar

Just water for me. It takes me longer to eat it, but that is good. I can't really stand tuna in oil - well, I can't really say I like tuna period, but it gets the job done better than just about anything else.

111 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:42:24am

re: #110 freetoken

Just water for me. It takes me longer to eat it, but that is good. I can't really stand tuna in oil - well, I can't really say I like tuna period, but it gets the job done better than just about anything else.

Tuna in oil is actually healthier. I get that it's lighter. If you like sushi, do it. I can't.

112 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:43:19am

re: #111 Cannadian Club Akbar

Tuna in oil is actually healthier. I get that it's lighter. If you like sushi, do it. I can't.

I get that tuna in water is lighter.

113 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:46:02am

re: #111 Cannadian Club Akbar

Sushi is ok, but buying it in Japan spoiled it for me buying it here in the US. Sorry, but the local stuff is just not up to snuff.

Last night I had some Coho, wild caught too. Generally lots of the fish in the local markets is not that good - even though San Diego is a port town. The fishing fleets just aren't based here anymore, and the "fresh" fish is mostly frozen, farm raised (usually Canada).

114 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:48:53am

re: #113 freetoken

I only eat a certain amount of fish. But salmon and other farm raised fish is high in Omega 6. Which is bad.

115 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:49:43am

re: #113 freetoken

Sushi is ok, but buying it in Japan spoiled it for me buying it here in the US. Sorry, but the local stuff is just not up to snuff.

Last night I had some Coho, wild caught too. Generally lots of the fish in the local markets is not that good - even though San Diego is a port town. The fishing fleets just aren't based here anymore, and the "fresh" fish is mostly frozen, farm raised (usually Canada).

I can't eat farmed raised fish.
Bleh!

116 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:51:15am

re: #115 Varek Raith

I can't eat farmed raised fish.
Bleh!

ELITIST!!
/

117 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:52:05am

re: #116 Cannadian Club Akbar

ELITIST!!
/

Most unpleasant.
Who allowed this...peasant to speak to me?
/

118 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:53:33am

re: #117 Varek Raith

Most unpleasant.
Who allowed this...peasant to speak to me?
/

"shakes key". LOOK OVER THERE!!!
REVOLT!!!

119 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:54:16am

re: #114 Cannadian Club Akbar

I only eat a certain amount of fish. But salmon and other farm raised fish is high in Omega 6. Which is bad.

Well, I can see where the normal American diet doesn't need any more ω-6. However, I don't eat the normal American diet; I eat plenty of ω-3 containing foods.

re: #115 Varek Raith

Yeah, much of it just isn't the same. However, wild fish stocks are definitely on the decline, and the world is going to be in difficult straights in the next few years as wild fish catches continue to decline.

120 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 2:58:07am

All right. Back too bed.

121 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 3:14:29am

Recommended, HD fullscreen:

122 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 3:28:35am

It's looking like Hurricane Igor's making a beeline for Bermuda.
[Link: www.nhc.noaa.gov...]

123 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 3:53:47am

rolling quake i think... felt it a few seconds ago, lasted about until now... long but not very sharp...

124 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 3:56:25am

5.4, Baja:

[Link: earthquake.usgs.gov...]

It was weird, long but very gentle.

125 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 4:25:17am

re: #124 freetoken

5.4, Baja:

[Link: earthquake.usgs.gov...]

It was weird, long but very gentle.

in bed?

126 jamesfirecat  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 4:34:44am

re: #8 brookly red

or they are just playing us... they love the stall game. If these guys had real issues they could have jumped long ago... f'em. rats from a sinking ship are still rats.

Well there is the entire ""Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free..."" Sort of basically boils down to "Give us your rats" if you think you think about it.....

127 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 4:54:09am

re: #126 jamesfirecat

Well there is the entire ""Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free..."" Sort of basically boils down to "Give us your rats" if you think you think about it...

They just don't make poor, tired, huddled masses like they used to.

128 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 5:17:49am

re: #127 JasonA

They just don't make poor, tired, huddled masses like they used to.

You must've pissed off the hamsters with that remark...
:)

129 Ericus58  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 5:24:38am

Morning all.
I used my Droid lst night to connect to LGF, and posted using the keyboard... and voice. Awesome stuff, it was time to change out from the 4 yr old flip-phone and go Smart.
I just have to figure out how to "reply"/"quote" to someone's post - the keyboard won't come up when I try that.
But otherwise, pretty dang cool.

130 Jadespring  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 5:26:01am

re: #93 boredtechindenver

That would be the living room. the room beyond is the sunroom with the three floor to ceiling windows, and there is a fireplace on the other side. I think that the sunroom was the original patio, and it was enclosed, since the hallway is exposed brick on the back of the garage.

The other link, the house has wainscotting all around and has a combo country house, 50s post war feel. That is because it was actually built that way. The back was the original, and the kitchen, livingroom was added on in the late 40s, early 50s. That is the house I really want, and I can't explain it other than it feels like my great grandmother's house. And it is nothing like her house, it is just a feeling. The only way I could explain it to my mother is that the reason she had my father buy the mountain property they built on, was that it reminded her of the house that the same great grandmother had in a different town, when my mother was growing up. The same woman evokes a feeling of home in both my mother and myself, but from two different houses we knew from the same stages in our lives.

The house I'm in now was bought because it 'felt' right. Wasn't exactly what I was looking for in terms of style. It's actually quite a unique style for a really old house. A real fixer upper too. The feeling hit right when I drove up. I wanted this house before I even went inside. Walking into it, even though it was a mess and totally stank it just felt like my house and something that could be a home. My hubby thought I was insane when I first brought him to it because he focused on the absolute mess until we'd been then for a bit. He then fell in love with it too. The hardest part was ignoring the feeling and going over the reality of it's condition and inspection to see if it was worthwhile financially to get in terms of what would have to be done to fix it. Thankfully that part worked out fine because the 'feeling' was so strong.

132 Ericus58  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 5:34:57am

re: #131 Varek Raith

American hiker released from Iranian prison, state media reports

"A judge decided to allow Shourd to be released on bail because of her medical condition, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported Sunday, citing Tehran Prosecutor General Abbas Jafari Dolatabadi.

Shourd had a pre-existing gynecological problem, and her family says she now also has a lump in her breast, according to Shafii."

I REALLY HATE THE IRANIAN REGIME.

133 reine.de.tout  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 5:36:12am

re: #93 boredtechindenver

That would be the living room. the room beyond is the sunroom with the three floor to ceiling windows, and there is a fireplace on the other side. I think that the sunroom was the original patio, and it was enclosed, since the hallway is exposed brick on the back of the garage.

The other link, the house has wainscotting all around and has a combo country house, 50s post war feel. That is because it was actually built that way. The back was the original, and the kitchen, livingroom was added on in the late 40s, early 50s. That is the house I really want, and I can't explain it other than it feels like my great grandmother's house. And it is nothing like her house, it is just a feeling. The only way I could explain it to my mother is that the reason she had my father buy the mountain property they built on, was that it reminded her of the house that the same great grandmother had in a different town, when my mother was growing up. The same woman evokes a feeling of home in both my mother and myself, but from two different houses we knew from the same stages in our lives.

The room with the angled ceiling probably was the patio or a screened porch- my parents enclosed their porch for a den, and it had the same angled ceiling.

Get the house that feels like you, is what I'd recommend. My house is a small older home, just a few inches of being big enough for 3 of us, really, but I love it.

134 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 5:39:15am

re: #133 reine.de.tout

The room with the angled ceiling probably was the patio or a screened porch- my parents enclosed their porch for a den, and it had the same angled ceiling.

Get the house that feels like you, is what I'd recommend. My house is a small older home, just a few inches of being big enough for 3 of us, really, but I love it.

I would love to buy one of those decommissioned missile silos or communications bunkers.
That would be my dream home.
:)

135 Ericus58  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 5:41:21am

re: #134 Varek Raith

I would love to buy one of those decommissioned missile silos or communications bunkers.
That would be my dream home.
:)

Set Condition DEFCON 2.

137 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 5:47:48am

re: #126 jamesfirecat

We got the best rats, it was a brain drain and even more an energy drain on Europe & perhaps that's why they (excepting England, I'm talking about continental Europe) were stupid enough to fight two world wars in the space of 31 years (1914 - 1945)

138 Jadespring  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 5:51:28am

Gah my yard is crazy barnyardville right now.

One of my hens hatched 9 chicks a couple of weeks ago and they started coming outside for the first time yesterday. I also got 3 runner ducks at about the same time and a LGD pup a month or so ago. The chicks are running around and the hens freaking out when one goes too far from the group. The rooster and the dog are having stare downs and bark/crow downs and one of the ducks is starting to get involved now too. So I'm sitting here listening to bark, bark, bark, COCK A DOODLE DOO!!, quack, quack quack. NO! BARK BARK BARK, take that quack quack.....

I NEED a video camera. It's hilarious.

139 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 5:52:42am

re: #138 Jadespring

ROFLMAO

140 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 5:53:45am

re: #138 Jadespring

Gah my yard is crazy barnyardville right now.

One of my hens hatched 9 chicks a couple of weeks ago and they started coming outside for the first time yesterday. I also got 3 runner ducks at about the same time and a LGD pup a month or so ago. The chicks are running around and the hens freaking out when one goes too far from the group. The rooster and the dog are having stare downs and bark/crow downs and one of the ducks is starting to get involved now too. So I'm sitting here listening to bark, bark, bark, COCK A DOODLE DOO!!, quack, quack quack. NO! BARK BARK BARK, take that quack quack...

I NEED a video camera. It's hilarious.

Lol.

141 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 5:54:40am

The New Colossus

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Emma Lazarus, 1883

142 rhino2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:17:20am

re: #134 Varek Raith

I would love to buy one of those decommissioned missile silos or communications bunkers.
That would be my dream home.
:)

Ditto - all that wiring work already done for you ;)

143 S'latch  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:23:23am

Thanks. That's a good one.

144 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:23:56am

Vote for Charlie!! Or not. From linky:

Crist's Democratic opponent for Senate, U.S. Rep. Kendrick Meek, called it "too little too late." He and the Republican nominee, Marco Rubio, noted the governor had backed a 2008 amendment to the state constitution banning same sex marriage, flip-flopped on the military's "don't ask, don't tell policy" earlier this year and opposed gay adoption in his 2006 campaign.

Read more: [Link: www.mcclatchydc.com...]

145 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:29:35am

re: #138 Jadespring

Gah my yard is crazy barnyardville right now!

I NEED a video camera. It's hilarious.


I say that about twice a day at our Casa!
Nearly got rear ended this weekend stopping for a Pheasant hen and her brood crossing the road three blocks from the house!!
She had 7 chicks in tow...

146 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:32:58am

Good morning lizards!

147 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:33:09am

re: #145 reloadingisnotahobby

I say that about twice a day at our Casa!
Nearly got rear ended this weekend stopping for a Pheasant hen and her brood crossing the road three blocks from the house!!
She had 7 chicks in tow...

This is why I only own animals I don't mind running over.
/wait, what?

148 Political Atheist  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:35:17am

re: #146 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning. I just saw the video through. Great to have an early laugh. Gotta wonder what Charlie thinks of it...

149 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:39:39am

re: #147 Cannadian Club Akbar

This is why I only own animals I don't mind running over.
/wait, what?


I have a really friendly cat I need to get rid of.
Poops in the wifes Daycare play yard sand!
What's your Address!!
/

150 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:39:44am

re: #19 brookly red

I neither agree or disagree, you either give it the power to annoy you or you don't. But I do agree it is annoying for sure.

Your parents taught you that during a spat with your brother in the back seat of the car, didn't they?

151 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:40:13am
152 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:40:21am

re: #149 reloadingisnotahobby

I have a really friendly cat I need to get rid of.
Poops in the wifes Daycare play yard sand!
What's your Address!!
/


What else is play yard sand for? Duh /

153 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:40:26am

re: #150 DaddyG

Your parents taught you that during a spat with your brother in the back seat of the car, didn't they?

HE"S TOUCHING MEEEEEE!!!

154 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:41:54am

re: #151 Cannadian Club Akbar

............They made their bed.........
pun intended!/

155 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:42:00am

re: #149 reloadingisnotahobby

I have a really friendly cat I need to get rid of.
Poops in the wifes Daycare play yard sand!
What's your Address!!
/

Are you sure it's not the kids pooping?
/

156 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:43:01am

re: #155 Cannadian Club Akbar

Are you sure it's not the kids pooping?
/


Nooo it's not the ki.....
I'll get back to ya!

157 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:44:00am

re: #156 reloadingisnotahobby

Nooo it's not the ki...
I'll get back to ya!

You should see the tree in my front yard!!

158 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:47:19am

Off to the Hardware store to spend tax payers money!!!
Ohhh GOODY!!
I love my job!
They're having a sale on 600 dollar toilet seats....499.00!!
Gotta go!
/

159 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:47:31am

I like to pee along the property line now and then just to confuse the coyotes.

160 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:48:15am
161 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:49:05am

re: #159 DaddyG

I like to pee along the property line now and then just to confuse the coyotes.

I like to shoot at them with pop guns just to made them
nervous!

162 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:50:43am

re: #160 Cannadian Club Akbar

OMG. STFU. And mind your own business.


Keep your hands off my McNuggets!

The first lady doesn't need to worry about my family. We can't afford to eat out any more thanks to this stellar economy.

Obesity is a nagging problem however as fresh veggies and fish are also too expensive to eat regularly outside of when we grow and catch them ourselves.

163 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:51:56am

Good Morning Lizards

This is my job now. Pity me.

164 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:52:59am

re: #162 DaddyG

I personally don't use salt and don't need to be be told I don't like it. Ban Tabasco? It will be war.
/serious

165 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:55:22am

re: #163 rwdflynavy

Good Morning Lizards

This is my job now. Pity me.


Ah...Yes !
The old IDATLLCMS Power Point!!
I hate those things..........

lol/

166 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:56:04am

re: #163 rwdflynavy

Good Morning Lizards

This is my job now. Pity me.

Can I get you some rope? Or a hose to run from the exhaust of you car to put in the window while in the garage?
/

167 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:57:05am

re: #163 rwdflynavy

Good Morning Lizards

This is my job now. Pity me.

That looks like it was put together by a committee of Six Sigma Green Belts. Get out the LEAN stick and beat on that thing for a while.

168 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:57:25am

re: #166 Cannadian Club Akbar
I'm thinking a couple Valium a day .....
...Or your plan works too......

169 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:59:22am

re: #168 reloadingisnotahobby

I'm thinking a couple Valium a day ...
...Or your plan works too...

I'm sticking with the steak and booze thing. Seems to be working.
/

170 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:00:08am

re: #163 rwdflynavy

Good Morning Lizards

This is my job now. Pity me.

WTF is that, plans for a time machine?!
/

171 rhino2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:00:18am

re: #160 Cannadian Club Akbar

OMG. STFU. And mind your own business.

As much hyperbolic wingnut rhetoric is spent on the "government running your life", this is one situation where that's a sentiment I can agree with. I can make my own decisions regarding what I should eat, thanks.

Fighting against childhood obesity I can understand. I imagine in some cases the parents are 100% to blame for the crap they make their kid eat, and depending on the situation you could argue abuse. That to me is a different fight than trying force everyone to eat healthy all the time.

172 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:00:45am

Woooo! Karma 13,000

173 rhino2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:01:07am

re: #172 DaddyG

Congratulations!

174 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:01:47am

re: #166 Cannadian Club Akbar

Can I get you some rope? Or a hose to run from the exhaust of you car to put in the window while in the garage?
/


I'm already working to get my relief identified...

175 rhino2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:02:07am

re: #172 DaddyG

I spend 95% of my time here lurking, so that's probably a figure I'll never see - hah

176 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:03:09am

re: #171 rhino2

If you don't know basic nutrition you are an idiot.
(not you)

177 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:03:15am

re: #171 rhino2

I want onther choice besides what flavor of big brother: religious right wing zealots or religiously zelous left wingers.

The libertarians and constitutionalists are merely anarchist and big brother lite.

178 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:04:18am

re: #175 rhino2

I spend 95% of my time here lurking, so that's probably a figure I'll never see - hah


I spend waaaay too much time typing smart alek responses and puns. If only Karma points were worth someting besides ego.

179 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:05:02am

zelous = zealous sigh.

180 rhino2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:05:19am

re: #176 Cannadian Club Akbar

If you don't know basic nutrition you are an idiot.
(not you)

Reminds me of something I heard a comedian say once (forget who): "I'm not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but we could just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem solve itself".

181 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:05:30am

Can anyone here tell me if Tropicana puts sugar in the OJ?

182 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:06:16am

re: #180 rhino2

Reminds me of something I heard a comedian say once (forget who): "I'm not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but we could just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem solve itself".

Agreed.

183 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:06:49am

'Ground Zero mosque' Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf sued by Union City, NJ

JERSEY CITY, N.J. (AP) — An imam at the center of a dispute over plans to build a mosque near ground zero is being sued by a northern New Jersey community where he owns two apartment buildings.

A New Jersey newspaper reports the lawsuit was filed Monday in state Superior Court by Union City, which is just across the Hudson River from New York and has about 70,000 residents. It says the lawsuit charges Feisal Abdul Rauf hasn't addressed complaints by tenants and orders from the city to correct code violations.

The lawsuit identifies Rauf as sole officer of building owner Sage Development LLC. One building has been vacant since a 2008 fire. The other contains 16 apartments.

The newspaper says repeated calls to Rauf's home telephone in North Bergen were met with busy signals.

Rauf's cell phone voicemail inbox isn't accepting messages.

184 rhino2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:07:26am

re: #181 Cannadian Club Akbar

Can anyone here tell me if Tropicana puts sugar in the OJ?

Can't answer for Tropicana specifically without some googling, but the "fresh squeezed OJ" brands I buy around here don't have any additional sugar added, the fruit has enough by itself.

185 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:08:28am

re: #184 rhino2

Can't answer for Tropicana specifically without some googling, but the "fresh squeezed OJ" brands I buy around here don't have any additional sugar added, the fruit has enough by itself.

Cali?

186 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:08:41am

re: #181 Cannadian Club Akbar

Can anyone here tell me if Tropicana puts sugar in the OJ?

I can
But then I'd have to kill you!

(trade secrets, and all!!)

//

187 rhino2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:09:36am

re: #185 Cannadian Club Akbar

Cali?

NC, we get it trucked up from Florida.

188 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:09:54am

re: #186 sattv4u2

I can
But then I'd have to kill you!

(trade secrets, and all!!)

//

Awe geez, who let you in?
/

189 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:10:36am

re: #188 Cannadian Club Akbar

Awe geez, who let you in?
/

Nice morning

Someone opened a window for fresh air!

190 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:11:02am

re: #187 rhino2

NC, we get it trucked up from Florida.

I'd kinda look into that.

191 Jadespring  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:14:50am

re: #171 rhino2

As much hyperbolic wingnut rhetoric is spent on the "government running your life", this is one situation where that's a sentiment I can agree with. I can make my own decisions regarding what I should eat, thanks.

Fighting against childhood obesity I can understand. I imagine in some cases the parents are 100% to blame for the crap they make their kid eat, and depending on the situation you could argue abuse. That to me is a different fight than trying force everyone to eat healthy all the time.

I don't see anything in that article or more importantly the actual full remarks that the article butchered that suggests anything about anyone 'forcing' restaurants or people to do anything. Is she talking about the government enacting laws? Making it something a restaurant HAS to do or be punished? No. Not that I can see.

What I read is a lot of suggestions of things that restaurants and people can do to help promote better eating and suggestions that can help people have the opportunity for making choices. Apples as a side dish option instead of just automatically french fries? Great idea. Hell even Micky D's is doing that one. Doesn't mean you HAVE to have apples. A couple of restaurants where I live actually have changed their menus to offer these types of things as well as the old stand bys. One's and chain and one's and regular old Mom and Pop burger diner. Still lots of people choosing the french fries but at least now there are more choices.

192 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:14:50am

re: #181 Cannadian Club Akbar

Can anyone here tell me if Tropicana puts sugar in the OJ?

[Link: fitho.in...]

Below is the nutritional info for all 4 Orange Juices
Tropicana: 48 cal; 11 gms Sugar, Vitamin C- 16 mg, Potassium- 170 mg, Calcium- 18 mg. No added sugar.
Real Activ: 48 cal; 12 gms Sugar, Vitamin C- 20 mg, Potassium- 86 mg, Calcium- 18 mg. No added sugar
Real: 56 cal; 13 gms Sugar, Vitamin C- 12.5 mg, Potassium- 70 mg, Calcium- 5 mg. Contains added sugar.
Minute Maid: 42 cal; 10.5 gm Sugar (no more info). Contains added sugar

Bottom line if it says 100% orange juice it should not have added sugar.

193 rhino2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:15:27am

Most of my OJ use has something to do with tools anyway so you know

194 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:15:36am

Operation South Coast: Germany's plans for the invasion of Britain revealed in rare Nazi book not seen for 70 years


With obscure technical diagrams and notes scrawled over its pages of faded colour maps, this book might appear as nothing more than an uninspiring aerial survey.

But these pictures are taken from Adolf Hitler's original war dossier of the planned Nazi invasion of Britain.

Unveiled for the first time 70 years to the day of Hitler's planned onslaught on England's south coast, the blueprints offer a chilling insight into what might have been on the morning of September 15, 1940.
The booklet pinpoints the quaint English coastal towns in the path of the Nazi ground assault, which could have been a grim reality had the RAF not performed so valiantly against the Luftwaffe during the Battle of Britain.

The invaders' guide book also eerily shows how postcards identifying unmistakable landmarks such as Brighton Pier and Land's End were given to Nazi troops to identify their targets in preparation for their blitz of the British Isles.

The original copy of the Nazis' briefing book Militargoegraphiscke Angaben uber England Sudkuste for 'Operation Sealion' detailed every attack point and weakness along England's south coast ahead of the Germans' assault in September 1940.

It is said to have been the most vital part of the painstakingly detailed German attack plan, and included large colour maps showing every part of the south coast, from Land's End in the south west to Foreness Point in Kent.

On September 17, 1940 Hitler was forced to indefinitely postpone Operation Sealion because of the Luftwaffe's failure to gain air supremacy over England in the fateful summer aerial engagement.

I hate Nazis.

195 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:16:58am

re: #193 rhino2

Most of my OJ use has something to do with tools anyway so you know

Most (hell ,, ALL) of my OJ use has to do with either Vodka or Champagne!
//

196 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:19:08am

BIG OJ IS RIPPING US OFF!!!
/

197 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:20:18am

re: #196 Cannadian Club Akbar

BIG OJ IS RIPPING US OFF!!!
/

I think Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman would agree!

oh ,, wait ,,,

198 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:21:52am

re: #197 sattv4u2

I resisted posting an OJ joke. Thank you for relieving my need.

199 rhino2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:22:13am

re: #191 Jadespring

I don't see anything in that article or more importantly the actual full remarks that the article butchered that suggests anything about anyone 'forcing' restaurants or people to do anything. Is she talking about the government enacting laws? Making it something a restaurant HAS to do or be punished? No. Not that I can see.

What I read is a lot of suggestions of things that restaurants and people can do to help promote better eating and suggestions that can help people have the opportunity for making choices. Apples as a side dish option instead of just automatically french fries? Great idea. Hell even Micky D's is doing that one. Doesn't mean you HAVE to have apples. A couple of restaurants where I live actually have changed their menus to offer these types of things as well as the old stand bys. One's and chain and one's and regular old Mom and Pop burger diner. Still lots of people choosing the french fries but at least now there are more choices.

I agree she isn't calling for mass bans on unhealthy food in those remarks, my point was merely that she was starting to expand past where actual government intervention might be needed (some cases of childhood obesity) and into areas where it is much less needed (menu suggestions for restaurants).

She's the First Lady and I realize has no direct authority to do anything policy wise - I'm not running out and buying a deep fryer to make sure I can keep on eating as if I intend to kill myself for fear of government intervention, just voicing my personal opinion that I hope it stays in the realm of speeches and suggestions and doesn't morph later into legislation, that's all.

(I'm not sure how many restaurant owners hadn't thought of offering healthy side-items before this speech, seems to be a national trend now that's been moving for a couple years - especially in the fast food area).

200 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:22:49am

re: #197 sattv4u2

I think Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman would agree!

oh ,, wait ,,,

I was almost laughing to hard to up ding you, but I reached deep down...
/

201 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:23:26am

re: #198 DaddyG

re: #200 Cannadian Club Akbar

Glad I could help!

202 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:24:38am

BBL

203 cliffster  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:26:53am

Ayatollah whips crowds into a violent frenzy


The speech appeared to be part of an effort by Iran’s hard-line leaders to amplify Muslim outrage over scattered gestures to burn or tear pages of the Koran, in the wake of the threat — later withdrawn — by Terry Jones, a Florida pastor, to burn the Koran on the anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

In Tehran, about 1,000 protesters chanting “Death to America” and “U.S. pastor must be killed” clashed with the police and threw stones at the Swiss Embassy, Reuters reported.

Death to America, eh? Seems a pleasant group of folks.

204 Jadespring  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:27:50am

re: #199 rhino2

Well considering her speech was as an invited speaker at a National Restaurant Association meeting, I'm not sure why it's a bad thing that she actually talk about food in restaurants.

205 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:28:45am

re: #203 cliffster

Ayatollah whips crowds into a violent frenzy

Death to America, eh? Seems a pleasant group of folks.

Right until he give them passports.

206 rhino2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:29:34am

re: #204 Jadespring

Well considering her speech was as an invited speaker at a National Restaurant Association meeting, I'm not sure why it's a bad thing that she actually talk about food in restaurants.

Ah, well I'm at work and that's just my ignorance of not reading where the speech was actually given, I'll admit my fault then.

207 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:30:02am

re: #203 cliffster

Ayatollah whips crowds into a violent frenzy

Death to America, eh? Seems a pleasant group of folks.

Who else did he blame?

In his speech, Ayatollah Khamenei said “the leaders of the global arrogance” — a code for the United States among Iranian conservatives — had engineered the plot to desecrate the Koran, Press TV and other agencies reported. He added that “Zionist think tanks which hold the most influence in the United States government and its security and military organizations” were also involved.

Da jooooos!

208 rhino2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:31:25am

re: #207 NJDhockeyfan

Who else did he blame?

Da jooos!

Par for the course is the phrase I believe.

209 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:37:17am

out for a bit.

210 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:39:21am

From Cuba....Communism = FAIL

Cuba to cut 500,000 gov't workers, reform salaries


HAVANA — The big economic changes Cuba's communist leaders have been promising for years appear finally to be happening in earnest — and they will be hard.

Cuba on Monday said it is laying off nearly half a million workers, an eye-popping figure in any country, but especially in a nation where the government so totally dominates the economy.

The shift would mean that one-tenth of the island's 5.1 million-strong work force will be looking for jobs in the private sector by April 2011, a drastic change that could mean a radically altered economic outlook, especially for Cubans in their 20s and 30s who have known nothing but a paternalistic communist system ushered in by Fidel Castro in his 1959 revolution.

211 Slap  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:39:39am

re: #176 Cannadian Club Akbar

If you don't know basic nutrition you are an idiot.

Or, you're the product of the combination of undereducation about food additives and oversaturation of vague language in descriptions of food.

I completely buy in to the argument that we're all responsible for our food choices. I'm just unconvinced that real information about nutrition has been readily accessible until relatively recently. (Not talking about labeling requirements, although that's part of it.) There's been a great deal of slightly misplaced trust on the part of American food consumers -- "well, the FDA says it's OK, so that company CAN'T be putting out bad food", and there's no real understanding of the food production and distribution process. Further, I can't recall ever being taught anything in school regarding reading and decoding nutritional labeling phrases, and never was taught the importance of being proactive in your food choices so you can occasionally indulge without it killing you.

I find it hard to criticize people for not being knowledgeable when that knowledge is obscured by those with an interest in maximizing profit. (An example: high fructose corn syrup -- industry justification is that it's OK "in moderation" -- is a nutritionally useless, profit-maximizing alternative to using simple natural sugar. Fair enough, but take a look at how many products, from beverages to cereals to candy to baked snacks, use HFCS as a significant ingredient; for the average consumer, using HFCS "in moderation" is incredibly difficult because it's everywhere.)

The recent trend toward requiring restaurants to disclose nutritional info should be a revelation to people. Up until recently, it was impossible for a diner to know that that caesar chicken salad they order as a healthy option has 2000 calories and the fat/sodium equivalent of a pound of bacon.

I put this in the same category as financial education in one critical sense: schools do not teach kids to take bankers' and food producers' words with a large grain of salt. Until we start raising young folks who are critical consumers, change will be very slow.

212 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:41:52am

re: #210 NJDhockeyfan

Castro also announced las week that the Cuban model doesn't work. Looks like he might reform the country before he dies. It could speed up the normalization of relations with the US.

213 rhino2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:44:31am

re: #211 Slap

Perhaps we should just teach Googling along with critical thought in school, problem solved.

214 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:46:47am

re: #212 Killgore Trout

Castro also announced las week that the Cuban model doesn't work. Looks like he might reform the country before he dies. It could speed up the normalization of relations with the US.

He said he was not translated correctly. The journalist who interview him is shocked, shocked I tell ya!

Journalist surprised Fidel Castro retracted comments

A U.S. journalist who interviewed Fidel Castro said on Monday he was surprised the former Cuban leader claimed that some of his comments were misrepresented because Castro has made similar statements before.

A report by Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic magazine raised eyebrows around the world last week when it quoted Castro as saying that ``the Cuban model doesn't even work for us anymore.''

Castro later said his comments were misinterpreted and that what he had meant to say was that it was the capitalism model that no longer works.

215 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:48:07am

re: #211 Slap

We were taught all about good eating habits and what's good to eat and not eat when I went to Jr High School. Did they stop teaching that in schools?

216 rhino2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:48:32am

Just ran across this image again - oldie but goodie!

Image: tech_support_cheat_sheet.png

217 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:48:50am

re: #212 Killgore Trout

Castro also announced las week that the Cuban model doesn't work. Looks like he might reform the country before he dies. It could speed up the normalization of relations with the US.

That would be great

I need a new source of parts for my 57' Chevy!

218 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:51:48am

re: #215 NJDhockeyfan

We were taught all about good eating habits and what's good to eat and not eat when I went to Jr High School. Did they stop teaching that in schools?

That
And Civics
and shop
and home ec
and recess monkey bars
and ,,,,,,,

219 rhino2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:52:33am

re: #218 sattv4u2

That
And Civics
and shop
and home ec
and recess monkey bars
and ,,,

Proper use of commas?

/sorry

220 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:52:46am

re: #211 Slap

Agreed. We have a really fucked up food culture and the FDA has been a large part of the problem by requiring high levels of preservatives and chemicals. I'm not sure the labeling requirements is going to help things much. The average American is unfamiliar with actual healthy food that they wouldn't recognize it if they saw it.

221 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:52:51am

re: #214 NJDhockeyfan

Right, the capitalistic model doesn't work, which is why Cuba is slowly moving towards a capitalistic system from the sclerotic government controlled economy in place since the Castro-led revolution in 1959.

Of course, Castro can't be faulted here - it's not like he's an economics genius by any stretch and his country has always relied on handouts from others - particularly the former Soviet Union to subsist as he nationalized industries and eliminated private ownership of property.

222 Slap  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:54:17am

re: #215 NJDhockeyfan

You were probably taught the food groups and the FDA-approved plan.

Were you taught to examine ingredients? Question them? Were you taught about additives like HFCS and their potential effects? Did you learn about the use of hydrogenation and how it changes the basic nature of how food reacts in your digestive and nervous systems? Did you learn about the extent to which livestock animals are exposed to excess levels of antibiotics and hormones, and how those issues affect development and human immune systems?

It's far more than just knowing what food groups are approved. I work in the industry and have to manage these details daily, and I'm telling you that whatever is getting taught is NOT getting through in a meaningful way -- or it hasn't been.

223 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:54:49am

A long article but worth the effort for those interested:Inside America's Mosques

224 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:55:21am

re: #219 rhino2

Proper use of commas?

/sorry

,,,h,u,h,,,?

225 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:58:51am

re: #222 Slap

You were probably taught the food groups and the FDA-approved plan.

Were you taught to examine ingredients? Question them? Were you taught about additives like HFCS and their potential effects? Did you learn about the use of hydrogenation and how it changes the basic nature of how food reacts in your digestive and nervous systems? Did you learn about the extent to which livestock animals are exposed to excess levels of antibiotics and hormones, and how those issues affect development and human immune systems?

No, I was in fucking Jr High School. They said eat fresh vegetables and fruit, stay away from candy and sugar, and exercise.

226 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:59:14am

re: #222 Slap

It's far more than just knowing what food groups are approved. I work in the industry and have to manage these details daily, and I'm telling you that whatever is getting taught is NOT getting through in a meaningful way -- or it hasn't been.


It's interesting to see how the Brits are dealing with food education. The celebrity chefs and cooking shows in the UK are often food education advocates posing as entertainment. I'm not sure how much of a cultural change they have made but there's a serious effort to teach people about food and cooking. American shows focus more on entertainment and unhealthy food like cakes and deserts.

227 Political Atheist  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:59:25am

You guys in or watching the market notice precious metals prices today? Way up. Gold up $22. Ouch. Palladium up $18 an even larger number by percentage. Ouch again. This I say from a manufacturers standpoint, not a day traders angle.

228 Jadespring  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:59:31am

re: #211 Slap

The ceasar salad is good example. Actually any salad is a good example. A healthy eating option- eat more green stuff! So people eat more green stuff and assume that just cause it's 'green' leafy stuff it's better no matter what is also in the dish. Then you have lots of promotions of 'healthy' choices (salad) where the makeup of the salad isn't much better calorie or fat wise then regular and supposedly unhealthy choices. It's not that everyone is generally stupid, it's just lack of knowledge or focusing on just one aspect of the choice, like with salads....just the fact that it has leaves in it.

I love caesar salads and am always on a search for the best ones in my area. Not kidding myself though that it is the most healthy thing I could choose just because it's salad. :)

229 darthstar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:59:40am

re: #225 NJDhockeyfan

No, I was in fucking Jr High School. They said eat fresh vegetables and fruit, stay away from candy and sugar, and exercise.

So how do you explain the piece of cold pizza next to your coffee?

230 Obdicut  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:00:23am

re: #222 Slap

Highly recommended book:


In Defense of Food

A really great, very simple book, echoing much of what you've said.

Basically, eat real food. Not processed crap. Then you can actually get a picture on what you're putting into your body and its likely effects.

231 darthstar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:00:47am

re: #227 Rightwingconspirator

You guys in or watching the market notice precious metals prices today? Way up. Gold up $22. Ouch. Palladium up $18 an even larger number by percentage. Ouch again. This I say from a manufacturers standpoint, not a day traders angle.

Glenn Beck will be making some money today. Gold goes up, the idiots watching Fox call Goldline.

232 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:00:57am

re: #229 darthstar

So how do you explain the piece of cold pizza next to your coffee?

I didn't eat pizza this morning, I had bacon & cheese sandwiches!

233 Obdicut  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:01:08am

re: #225 NJDhockeyfan

No, I was in fucking Jr High School. They said eat fresh vegetables and fruit, stay away from candy and sugar, and exercise.

The problem is that high fructose corn syrup basically is candy, and it's in everything.

234 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:01:10am

re: #227 Rightwingconspirator

You guys in or watching the market notice precious metals prices today? Way up. Gold up $22. Ouch. Palladium up $18 an even larger number by percentage. Ouch again. This I say from a manufacturers standpoint, not a day traders angle.

The Ferengis want to know what the Latinum Market is!!

(Star Trek reference)

235 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:01:53am

re: #233 Obdicut

The problem is that high fructose corn syrup basically is candy, and it's in everything.

It's not in my hot sauce. ;)

236 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:02:06am

re: #230 Obdicut

Highly recommended book:

In Defense of Food

A really great, very simple book, echoing much of what you've said.

Basically, eat real food. Not processed crap. Then you can actually get a picture on what you're putting into your body and its likely effects.

An excellent book.

237 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:02:15am

re: #229 darthstar

So how do you explain the piece of cold pizza next to your coffee?

he walked to the kitchen to get the pizza,, hence ,exercise, so he's covered !

238 darthstar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:02:48am

re: #232 NJDhockeyfan

I didn't eat pizza this morning, I had bacon & cheese sandwiches!

meat+cheese+bread=pizza.

239 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:03:44am

re: #238 darthstar

meat+cheese+bread=pizza.

I forgot the sliced tomatoes. Crap!

240 Obdicut  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:04:38am

re: #235 NJDhockeyfan

It's not in my hot sauce. ;)

Good. It is in a lot of sauces, though. It's become an almost default ingredient; it's both a sweetener and a preservative.

241 Jadespring  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:05:26am

re: #220 Killgore Trout

Agreed. We have a really fucked up food culture and the FDA has been a large part of the problem by requiring high levels of preservatives and chemicals. I'm not sure the labeling requirements is going to help things much. The average American is unfamiliar with actual healthy food that they wouldn't recognize it if they saw it.

I'd also add a generalized perception that 'healthy' or 'healthier' is equal to sucky, not good food. Though I would say that this generalized perception is changing. I'm not really sure exactly how this sort of perception came about but it's something I see and meet with all over the place.

242 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:07:24am

the iranians continue to exploit American hostages. this release cost $500k in ransom.

no regime on earth is as repugnant as the mullahs in tehran. i'm sure they told this girl that if she says anything bad about her treatment in iran, her fellow hikers would suffer the consequences.

Where is the outrage over this? Mr President, use your moral authority and speak out against this.

243 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:07:32am

re: #240 Obdicut

Good. It is in a lot of sauces, though. It's become an almost default ingredient; it's both a sweetener and a preservative.

It's a floor wax, it's a dessert topping!

244 darthstar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:07:32am

re: #233 Obdicut

The problem is that high fructose corn syrup basically is candy, and it's in everything.

NPR news just now...the High Fructose Corn Syrup industry is trying to get the name changed on ingredient labels to "Corn Sugar" because HFCS usage is plummeting...

245 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:08:09am

re: #242 _RememberTonyC

the iranians continue to exploit American hostages. this release cost $500k in ransom.

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

no regime on earth is as repugnant as the mullahs in tehran. i'm sure they told this girl that if she says anything bad about her treatment in iran, her fellow hikers would suffer the consequences.

Where is the outrage over this? Mr President, use your moral authority and speak out against this.

Who paid the ransom?

246 Slap  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:08:38am

re: #230 Obdicut

Highly recommended book:

In Defense of Food

A really great, very simple book, echoing much of what you've said.

Basically, eat real food. Not processed crap. Then you can actually get a picture on what you're putting into your body and its likely effects.

Pollan can be a bit testy , but I agree. If you want to get into it deeper, The Omnivore's Dilemma is the "expanded" version. Both provide real-world mental tools for building a healthy diet.

(He even wrote a version aimed at kids....NJD, this is the kind of education that most of us never got in school.....)

247 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:09:21am

Nazi Graffiti Found in Dorms

Four students were victims of bias-related incidents in New South Hall on Sept. 6 and 11, and a similar incident occurred in Darnall Hall sometime between Sept. 11 and 13, according to the Department of Public Safety.

Swastika symbols were drawn and the name “Hitler” was written on dry-erase boards hanging on the doors to the victims’ rooms. A first-floor resident of New South, who wished to remain anonymous due to the nature of the incident, said he returned to his dorm room at night to find graffiti drawn on his dry-erase board. While the vandalism was not related to Nazism, he said he thought it was likely drawn by the same people who drew a swastika on one of his floormate’s doors. The defaced dry-erase boards were scattered throughout New South.

“The general belief is that this was done by a group of non-Georgetown students who were let into the dorm. It is positive that it was not done by Georgetown students, but it could give other people ideas,” he said.

DPS Investigative Sergeant David Ruiz said DPS could not comment on this supposition, but added that the case was under investigation and that the Metropolitan Police Department had been notified.

248 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:09:36am

re: #245 NJDhockeyfan

Who paid the ransom?

from what I can tell, her family raised the money

249 Taqyia2Me  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:09:47am

re: #240 Obdicut

Good. It is in a lot of sauces, though. It's become an almost default ingredient; it's both a sweetener and a preservative.

HFCS processes thru the human body much slower than real sugar.

250 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:11:52am

People want cheap eats. People want quick eats. People want prepackaged eats. People may want to eat healthy, but those competing interests run into each other. Consider that fresh fruit and vegies are more expensive than many canned varieties and other food choices such that people on limited budgets are going to trade one for another.

Throw in government directives to eat certain foods or avoid certain foods (that later turn out to be not the best food options after all), and you've got mass confusion and a public that consumes far more than they should based on a sedentary lifestyle.

Top among all issues should be portion control. No matter what you're talking about - reducing the overall size of portions should be key.

251 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:12:01am

Good morning honcos! I feel great! Just got a Zionist check through PayPal.

252 Interesting Times  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:12:17am

re: #249 Taqyia2Me

HFCS processes thru the human body much slower than real sugar.

And cancer cells absolutely love the stuff:

Study: cancer cells use high fructose corn syrup to multiply

High-fructose corn syrup can be deadly if you have pancreatic cancer. That's because the cancer cells slurp them up in order to multiply. Researchers say fructose is to blame not only for this, but for a range of deadly diseases.

253 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:12:22am

re: #248 _RememberTonyC

from what I can tell, her family raised the money

I can understand what they did to get their daughter back.

254 Slap  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:12:42am

re: #249 Taqyia2Me

That's a worthwhile characteristic to watch. If a natural-source ingredient (say, sugar, or vegetable oil) which our bodies are designed to process is chemically altered to NOT break down as quickly on the shelf, chances are it will do the same thing in our bodies.

255 darthstar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:13:37am

re: #242 _RememberTonyC

the iranians continue to exploit American hostages. this release cost $500k in ransom.

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

no regime on earth is as repugnant as the mullahs in tehran. i'm sure they told this girl that if she says anything bad about her treatment in iran, her fellow hikers would suffer the consequences.

Where is the outrage over this? Mr President, use your moral authority and speak out against this.

President Ahmadinejad ordered the release as a marker for the end of Ramadan. The Iranian courts, which are in a bit of a power struggle with him, demanded the "bail"...it's not clear whether it was paid or not, as the family said they didn't have the money.

And I don't see why you're pleading with the president...you can't stand him, and if the "mullahs" let the Americans go at his request, you'd just call it a professional courtesy.

256 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:13:49am

re: #250 lawhawk

Top among all issues should be portion control. No matter what you're talking about - reducing the overall size of portions should be key

Can't recall the comic that did the bit about buffet's but the money line was
"you're not supposed to eat all 'you can eat'"

257 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:16:38am

re: #255 darthstar

President Ahmadinejad ordered the release as a marker for the end of Ramadan. The Iranian courts, which are in a bit of a power struggle with him, demanded the "bail"...it's not clear whether it was paid or not, as the family said they didn't have the money.

And I don't see why you're pleading with the president...you can't stand him, and if the "mullahs" let the Americans go at his request, you'd just call it a professional courtesy.

The Iranians are holding Americans hostage. It's the president's duty to demand their release. Would you agree?

258 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:17:38am

re: #257 NJDhockeyfan

The Iranians are holding Americans hostage. It's the president's duty to demand their release. Would you agree?

I'm in Georgia

I'll ask Jimmy Carter!
//

259 Gus  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:17:43am

re: #255 darthstar

President Ahmadinejad ordered the release as a marker for the end of Ramadan. The Iranian courts, which are in a bit of a power struggle with him, demanded the "bail"...it's not clear whether it was paid or not, as the family said they didn't have the money.

And I don't see why you're pleading with the president...you can't stand him, and if the "mullahs" let the Americans go at his request, you'd just call it a professional courtesy.

Hi-dilly-ho-dilly. How about I play devils advocate. What would the call be if they detained three Iranian nationals inside US borders and subsequently Federal authorities had told the press that they were possibly involved in spying? If not the call but the reaction from the American public.

260 darthstar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:19:55am

re: #256 sattv4u2


Top among all issues should be portion control. No matter what you're talking about - reducing the overall size of portions should be key

Can't recall the comic that did the bit about buffet's but the money line was
"you're not supposed to eat all 'you can eat'"

Had lunch at a Mexican restaurant on Sunday that also had a brunch buffet (American items like fried chicken, bacon, scrambled eggs, etc). Their Mexican food is pretty good, which is what we had, but I could see the chafing dishes from my table, and I watched in horror as some guy (he was rather large) put nine pieces (I counted) of fried chicken on his plate, then used the same tongs to scoop about a dozen pieces of bacon on top of said mountain. As it wasn't stable, he had to pull three pieces of bacon off the top, fold them with his fingers, and slip them into his mouth as he explored the other items he wanted to fit on the plate.

It was pretty gross...and sad.

261 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:20:27am

re: #259 Gus 802

Hi-dilly-ho-dilly. How about I play devils advocate. What would the call be if they detained three Iranian nationals inside US borders and subsequently Federal authorities had told the press that they were possibly involved in spying? If not the call but the reaction from the American public.

if we really did arrest iranian spy suspects in the US, we wouldn't release them for a $500k ransom. unless they were bogus charges and we were in the hostage taking business like the mullahs are.

262 Slap  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:20:28am

re: #244 darthstar

Again with the use of language to obfuscate food reality.

These guys just don't give up.

My personal story re: HFCS. Granted, everyone's metabolism is unique. I've always been slender-ish, never a weight problem, never more than a 32 waist size. I made a decision to eliminate every shred of HFCS that was in my regular diet (I was a 2-3 Cokes per day guy), replacing them with items I made, or items that simply used sugar. No other changes, no reductions in regular intake amounts, no changes in exercise. Within a month, I lost 15 pounds, and it's stayed constant since then. I can't say everyone would have the same response, but it's worth trying.

263 darthstar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:20:53am

re: #259 Gus 802

Hi-dilly-ho-dilly. How about I play devils advocate. What would the call be if they detained three Iranian nationals inside US borders and subsequently Federal authorities had told the press that they were possibly involved in spying? If not the call but the reaction from the American public.

Crucify! Crucify! Crucify! (it's in the Bible)

264 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:22:37am

I wonder if Hillary will bring this up at the peace talks?

Hamas video imagines takeover of Israel

A Hamas video clip shows landmarks in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv being bombed and the imaginary takeover of Israel by Palestinians.

Two young Palestinian members of Hamas from Gaza and the West Bank created the video called the "Battle to Free Palestine," Ynetnews.com reported Monday.

The Web site said the clip has caused a frenzy on Arab Internet sites.

The clip opens with a Palestinian declaring "Inshallah [in God's name] the homeland will be returned [to us] through jihad [holy war]."

The scene then moves to a classroom where young Palestinians demand to participate in the "resistance."

Armed Hamas operatives are shown planning the operation.

Then, vivid images show landmarks in Jerusalem such as the Supreme Court and Bank of Israel buildings and popular sites in Tel Aviv being bombed and engulfed in flames.

The name of Tel Aviv is changed to Tel-Arabiya and Palestinian and Hamas flags are hoisted in the city. Palestinian vehicles drive on one of Tel Aviv's main highways.

The clip then shows Israeli soldiers killed in battle and Hamas operatives firing rockets.

265 Gus  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:22:41am

re: #257 NJDhockeyfan

The Iranians are holding Americans hostage. It's the president's duty to demand their release. Would you agree?

He did demand their release. So has the State Department. The State Department is primarily responsible for these matters and the president can't step up to the plate every time a few people in the general public demand that he do so in public and with great flourish.

266 Jadespring  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:22:47am

re: #250 lawhawk

People want cheap eats. People want quick eats. People want prepackaged eats. People may want to eat healthy, but those competing interests run into each other. Consider that fresh fruit and vegies are more expensive than many canned varieties and other food choices such that people on limited budgets are going to trade one for another.

Throw in government directives to eat certain foods or avoid certain foods (that later turn out to be not the best food options after all), and you've got mass confusion and a public that consumes far more than they should based on a sedentary lifestyle.

Top among all issues should be portion control. No matter what you're talking about - reducing the overall size of portions should be key.

You've hit on a lot of points here that make the issue so complex. I'd also add a general decline in people knowing how to cook even the most basic of things or cook in a cheap way, especially from fresher and less processed ingredients. I don't think there is any one factor that has led to this but I do think it is part of it. For people that do cook it can seem really weird, how can people not know? It's not rocket science or anything. I ran into this much more when I lived in the city and less so where I live now which is more rural.

267 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:22:48am

re: #259 Gus 802

That assumes that the persons caught were actually inside the declared border. The Iranians captured the three in an area where the border was not demarcated - and it is possible that the Iranians captured the three while they were not actually within Iran at the time. A similar situation happened with North Korea capturing Laura Ling and an associate along the North Korean/Chinese border (also an unmarked area).

268 Sergeant Major  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:22:56am

re: #245 NJDhockeyfan

The Swiss paid the ransom oh, I mean bail.

269 Political Atheist  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:23:36am

re: #231 darthstar

The whole daytime retail TV thing just gets me. From Beck to infomercials to shopping channels. Exploitative by choice.

270 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:24:22am

re: #268 Sergeant Major

The Swiss paid the ransom oh, I mean bail.

The Swiss? Huh. Interesting.

271 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:24:28am

I think we, as in the US gov, should deny travel rights of civilians to active war zones.
No offense, but these idiots should never have been in Iraq in the first place.

272 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:24:33am

Republicans vs the Constitution: The Battle continues.....
Is the Fourth Amendment Really About ‘Privacy’?

273 Political Atheist  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:25:04am

re: #270 NJDhockeyfan

The Swiss handle much of our diplo contact with Iran. Such as it is.

274 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:25:59am

re: #262 Slap

I have a similar story, but while my weight has been relatively stable from high school on, I gained a bit of weight before getting married because I was eating out - at Chinese restaurants for lunch a couple times a week. After brown bagging lunches, I found that I lost the weight - probably 8-10 pounds, and have kept it off since. I figure the weight difference was due to portion size and the soy sauce. I didn't make any other substantive changes to my diet, although I have been eating more fish in the past year than previously, replacing a red meat meal once a week.

275 Political Atheist  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:26:31am

re: #271 Varek Raith

Oh no. It's okay now our combat brigades are out.
// dripping.

276 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:27:10am

That hot reporter in the Jets controversy is on Fox News. WOW...what a fuckin hottie.

277 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:27:59am

re: #276 NJDhockeyfan

That hot reporter in the Jets controversy is on Fox News. WOW...what a fuckin hottie.

I know!
I saw her on CNN a little while ago.
I was like, DAMN!!!

278 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:28:50am

re: #277 Varek Raith

I know!
I saw her on CNN a little while ago.
I was like, DAMN!!!

It looks like one of her tits is about to fall out of that shirt.

279 deranged cat  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:29:34am

re: #278 NJDhockeyfan

re: #277 Varek Raith

lol. any idea who it is? you've piqued my curiosity.

280 Political Atheist  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:32:17am

OT
Uh oh. My old Sony receiver, the heart of my humble TV/DVD/Direct TV setup is going out. Now the tech is all blue ray HD centric. I do not $feel like upgrading all of it. Not a gadget I was looking forward to replacing. Dang, just did the computer.

281 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:32:18am

re: #279 deranged cat

re: #277 Varek Raith

lol. any idea who it is? you've piqued my curiosity.

Her name is Ines Sainz.

282 Interesting Times  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:33:03am

re: #271 Varek Raith

I think we, as in the US gov, should deny travel rights of civilians to active war zones.
No offense, but these idiots should never have been in Iraq in the first place.

Three things I wish to be nowhere near:

1) Leaking propane tanks
2) Radioactive dump sites
3) The Iranian border

283 Slap  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:33:12am

re: #274 lawhawk

It's incredible how much benefit brown-bagging provides -- in your example, it's a weight thing, but I'm guessing it has also turned out to be a gigantic financial thing, as well. (I've been brownbagging for the last 7 years or so -- probably saves me at least $25 per week.)

284 Slap  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:34:19am

re: #282 publicityStunted

Three things I wish to be nowhere near:

1) Leaking propane tanks
2) Radioactive dump sites
3) The Iranian border

I respectfully submit a fourth:

4) A Michael Bolton concert.

FTFY!

285 Jadespring  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:34:20am

re: #274 lawhawk

I have a similar story, but while my weight has been relatively stable from high school on, I gained a bit of weight before getting married because I was eating out - at Chinese restaurants for lunch a couple times a week. After brown bagging lunches, I found that I lost the weight - probably 8-10 pounds, and have kept it off since. I figure the weight difference was due to portion size and the soy sauce. I didn't make any other substantive changes to my diet, although I have been eating more fish in the past year than previously, replacing a red meat meal once a week.

I was fine, weight wise until I went to University and worked two jobs to put me through it. Combination of eating out more, not eating regularly and just generally eating more processed stuff because it was easy. I also went from an extremely physical athletic job and lifestyle to something more sedentary. Even though I knew a lot about food and choices the extent of the changes caught up (20+) pounds worth of catching up before I really clued into what had happened. I've been wrestling with it ever since because it was like it changed the way my body deals with food.

286 Surabaya Stew  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:35:22am

Morning Lizards!

Saw this in the news; any idea whether this is a genuine apology or not?

Jim Greer's apology

Here's the gist of it:

"In the year since I issued a prepared statement regarding President Obama speaking to the nation's school children, I have learned a great deal about the party I so deeply loved and served," Greer said in a statement Tuesday to CNN and other media outlets.

"Unfortunately, I found that many within the GOP have racist views and I apologize to the President for my opposition to his speech last year and my efforts to placate the extremists who dominate our Party today. My children and I look forward to the President's speech."

However, Greer is now under indictment on fraud and money-laundering charges after being drummed out of the state party so revenge and/or fear could also be motivating factors in his "seeing of the light".

Thoughts, feelings?

287 deranged cat  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:36:43am

re: #281 NJDhockeyfan

hahahahaha. yes. i heard about her the yesterday on various other outlets. including Wonkette.

288 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:36:54am

re: #283 Slap

I'm easily saving $30+ a week now (which adds up over the course of a year). A good cheap eat in my neck of the woods is $7-$10 a lunch so that's money not going out. I have the mrs. to thank for that. :)

289 Slap  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:37:44am

re: #285 Jadespring

I've been wrestling with it ever since because it was like it changed the way my body deals with food.

And this is the core issue -- we rarely realize how our food choices change they way our bodies respond in general. Weight loss and dietary changes are certainly rooted in the brain, but dealing with the ways the body changes can be the most discouraging factor.

All I can say is, keep at it. It's a battle worth fighting, tooth and nail.

290 deranged cat  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:40:49am

I thought this was quite good... just for the fact that we ALL KNOW IT and that it's SO OBVIOUS.

The Stink of Desperation: Why Republicans Lie
[Link: www.esquire.com...]

In the world I grew up in, this episode of "truthiness" would have ended Hannity's career. It's certainly far worse than the charges that sank Dan Rather just five years ago. And there are many, many more such examples, from "death panels" to the way so many Republican politicians have encouraged the absurd "birther" controversy.

I don't think there's any equivalent to this on the left. Liberals can be annoyingly self-righteous and swept away by hyperbole — calling George W. Bush a moron, for example — but I don't see much deliberate lying. Certainly nothing on the scale of Fox or Limbaugh.

I have two theories about this. One is that the conservative intelligentsia is deliberately training the Republican base to be irrational. I can almost see them chortling: "If we can get them to believe the earth is only 6,000 years old, we can get them to believe anything!"
But while this theory provides a little consolation, I don't actually think it's true. Far more likely is theory No. 2 — that Republicans have lost all confidence in their ability to convince the American people with honest arguments. Their triumphalism about November conceals a stink of desperation.

291 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:43:01am

re: #290 deranged cat

Republicans have lost all confidence in their ability to convince the American people with honest arguments.

Yup, I think that's it.

292 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:43:48am

BTW, today's primary day around the country and there are 2 races in the NYC metro area to watch. Rangel will try to hold on to his seat (and I expect that he will). Lazio v. Paladino in the GOP undercard to the November massacre by Andy Cuomo for NYS governor.

While the NYT wants to say that there are more competitive races this year than most, I'm not seeing it. NYS AG is an open race, but the other statewide races are unopposed or have insignificant opposition. No one in NY can name the candidates for AG in a 5-way race. There is no real opposition in the primaries for US senate, and the local races are mostly uncompetitive except for an insurgent run against Carolyn Maloney and the big race between the corrupt Rangel and Adam Clayton Powell IV (son of a corrupt and disgraced Congressman who was himself ousted in 1970 by Rangel - poetic justice of a sort).

293 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:44:17am

re: #230 Obdicut

Highly recommended book:

In Defense of Food

A really great, very simple book, echoing much of what you've said.

Basically, eat real food. Not processed crap. Then you can actually get a picture on what you're putting into your body and its likely effects.

There's also a good chapter/section in _The Omnivore's Dilemma_ on a farm in Virginia where the primary product is the grass... Of course the farmer is also doing further processing on that grass into dairy, poultry, pork and other products.

The rest of the book is good too. ;)

294 avanti  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:44:32am

If you wondered why we have been safe since 9-11, the American Family Association has the answer, it's major league baseball and other sporting events./

"Remarkably, we have established the practice of converting every major league stadium, every NFL stadium, and every NBA arena into a temporary cathedral in which hundreds of thousands of Americans every week pray to God and ask him to watch over this land.

I suggest that these prayers have been heard and they have been answered."
Baseball.

295 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:44:49am

Fidel Castro says French President Nicolas Sarkozy is 'too crazy to be trusted with the launch codes of nuclear bombs'


Former Cuban leader Fidel Castro has said Nicolas Sarkozy is 'too crazy to be trusted with the launch codes of nuclear bombs' in a scathing attack on the French president.

The ex-communist dictator said a briefcase containing the codes for more than 300 atomic weapons never left Mr Sarkozy's side.

And 84-year-old Castro told Mexican daily La Journada: 'France is the world's third biggest nuclear power.

Heh. I think he's still jealous because the Soviets never let him have his own erector set of nukes.

296 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:45:21am

re: #294 avanti

If you wondered why we have been safe since 9-11, the American Family Association has the answer, it's major league baseball and other sporting events./

"Remarkably, we have established the practice of converting every major league stadium, every NFL stadium, and every NBA arena into a temporary cathedral in which hundreds of thousands of Americans every week pray to God and ask him to watch over this land.

I suggest that these prayers have been heard and they have been answered."
Baseball.

Lolwhut.

297 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:47:13am

re: #226 Killgore Trout

It's interesting to see how the Brits are dealing with food education. The celebrity chefs and cooking shows in the UK are often food education advocates posing as entertainment. I'm not sure how much of a cultural change they have made but there's a serious effort to teach people about food and cooking. American shows focus more on entertainment and unhealthy food like cakes and deserts.

Battle Twinkie! Allez Cuisine!!

298 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:50:19am

I see we had another alumni of the class of 2004 melt down last night, in the 'mistake' thread.

That's one reason why I occasionally defend myself against the ankle biters' attacks -- it invariably brings out some lurkers with grudges.

299 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:51:23am

Also, the moron who runs that dumb-as-a-post blog 'jumpinginpools' tried to register two sock puppets last night.

300 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:56:00am

re: #266 Jadespring

You've hit on a lot of points here that make the issue so complex. I'd also add a general decline in people knowing how to cook even the most basic of things or cook in a cheap way, especially from fresher and less processed ingredients. I don't think there is any one factor that has led to this but I do think it is part of it. For people that do cook it can seem really weird, how can people not know? It's not rocket science or anything. I ran into this much more when I lived in the city and less so where I live now which is more rural.

It's essentially family-level education at this point since I don't think high-school home economics ever really touched on it (and does that even *exist* anymore in our current education system?)

You learn to cook (if at all) from your parents unless you self-actualize at some later point to do your own. (Cue quip about ramen noodle consumption rates in college,)

I did spaghetti sauce out of a jar for years and years since that is what Mom did. At some point I started adding extras; more garlic, more herbs, additional spices, etc. But the base was still the stuff from a jar. A couple years back I started working through a few cook books and essentially from that point stopped using jarred sauce. I'd discovered that I could make something tasty and about as quick starting from a can of diced tomatoes (when no garden tomatoes available), or simply doing something simple based on garlic and olive oil. And if you're careful about reading up on your canned product contents and processing you then get a lot of control about what goes into the pot - especially if you have to keep an eye on the sugar and salt levels.

301 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:57:03am

re: #290 deranged cat We see what we want to see. Liberals called George W. Bush worse than a moron and their record for honest and open political dialogue and electons is less than pure.

I am not pleased with the GOPs trend towards pandering to ignorance in the last several years (decades?) but I'm taking my own party to task in public forums adn at the ballot box.

Republican triumphalism has more to do with knowing midterm elections in a bad economic year are disasterous for incumbant parties than it does with desperation.

302 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:01:11am

If I were one of their customers I'd switch immediately:

Veterans Agency Made Secret Deal Over Benefits

The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs failed to inform 6 million soldiers and their families of an agreement enabling Prudential Financial Inc. to withhold lump-sum payments of life insurance benefits for survivors of fallen service members, according to records made public through a Freedom of Information request.
303 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:01:36am

...It also sounds a little like Dem pundits are trying to soften the impending loss of seats by claiming it is the ignorance of the R voter that is leading us to this political crisis.

The intelligencia on both sides of the political divide aren't as influencial and powerful as they dream they are. You could silence all of the pundits and reporters between now and November and I doubt it would have much influence on the mid-term elections which will end up being more of a referendum on how the public feels about the economy and their prospects.

Anti-incumbant is the zeitgeist not appeal to ignorance.

304 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:02:18am

re: #302 JasonA

If I were one of their customers I'd switch immediately:

Veterans Agency Made Secret Deal Over Benefits

What. The. Fuck.

305 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:04:56am

Yikes!

Politician got swastika carved into forehead

A 24-year-old candidate of the nationalist party the Sweden Democrats was yesterday attacked and cut with a knife in his home in Malmö, southern Sweden. Two offenders carved a swastika into his forehead. Earlier in the day someone had sprayed left-wing extremist political slogans on the house where the 24-year-old lives. The perpetrators are unknown at the moment but the police are looking for clues among those who on Friday tried to interrupt a political meeting held in Malmö by the Sweden Democrats.

306 cliffster  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:06:31am

re: #305 NJDhockeyfan

those inglorious bastards.

307 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:07:39am

re: #305 NJDhockeyfan

Sweden Democrat blogger claims Africans have ‘rape gene’

In his blog entitled “Landskronabackspege”, meaning Landskrona rear view mirror, 76-year-old retiree Wahlberg wrote about what he sees as the “genetic characteristics” of black Africans.

“For many thousands of years, the Negro could chill out in the heat, eat some bananas, rape some passing woman or child, fight with other negro males and eat them up, play the drums a little, run around a bit, catch an antelope, eat a few bananas, f**k a bit, get drunk on fermented fruits or herbs, and so on. This has been going on for millennia without any evolutionary pressure in the form of environmental factors forcing the Negro to develop in another direction,” the blog read.

308 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:08:33am

re: #305 NJDhockeyfan

re: #307 Charles

Whew. For a minute there I thought we were the only ones going batshit...

309 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:13:45am
310 Gus  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:22:45am

There's something weird in the air.

Back later.

311 cliffster  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:25:57am

Steve Jobs has to give up is Ninja Stars at the gate just like us normal Americans.

[Link: techland.com...]

312 ClaudeMonet  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 11:09:41am

re: #243 NJDhockeyfan

It's a floor wax, it's a dessert topping!

It's both!

re: #247 NJDhockeyfan

Nazi Graffiti Found in Dorms

Sounds like my experience at a "good Catholic college full of good Catholic kids". Such incidents are always attributed to "outsiders" at any school, public or private. Probably them Joos.


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Barry Gibb - Too Much Heaven (Visualizer) Ft. Alison Krauss ‘GREENFIELDS The Gibb Brothers Songbook, Vol. 1’ out now: barrygibb.lnk.to Listen to more Barry Gibb here: barrygibb.lnk.to... Socials -Facebook: facebook.com...Twitter: @GibbBarryInstagram: instagram.com... #barrygibb #greenfields Music video by Barry Gibb performing Too Much Heaven (Visualizer). A Capitol Records Release; © ...
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 210110We received the second check valve and installed it.It works as it should.They should both ease up the startup workload on the small pumps.We can forget about this for a while or longer. We bought a bunch more plants. Some ...
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No One’s Disciple — Theremin Trees A reflection on something of special importance at this time: the dangers of magical heroes, human and divine. You can support the channel at: patreon.com--0:00 the importance of individuality4:08 heroes, harmful and helpful6:29 religious disciples7:22 a little learning9:20 hero ...
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Alicia Keys - Wasted Energy (Audio) Ft. Diamond Platnumz, Kaash PaigeAlicia Keys - Wasted Energy (Audio) ft. Diamond Platnumz, Kaash Paige Alicia Keys - ALICIA: smarturl.it Follow Alicia Keys:Instagram: instagram.comFacebook: facebook.comTwitter: @aliciakeysWebsite: aliciakeys.com
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Trump Pledges an Orderly Transition of Power After Violent Insurrection Seth Meyers' monologue from Thursday, January 7. Late Night with Seth Meyers. Stream now on Peacock: bit.ly Subscribe to Late Night: bit.ly Watch Late Night with Seth Meyers Weeknights 12:35/11:35c on NBC. Get more Late Night with Seth Meyers: ...
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EELS - Where I’m Going (Audio Stream)"Where I'm Going" from THE CAUTIONARY TALES OF MARK OLIVER EVERETT, out April 22, 2014. Shipping now from eelstheband.com
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Amy Macdonald - Mr Rock & Roll (The Roost Acoustic Session) New year, (good!) old classic. Here's an acoustic version of Mr Rock & Roll, recorded last year in London. Happy new year everyone. ✨ The new album 'The Human Demands' is out now. Listen here: amymacdonald.lnk.to Subscribe to the ...
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