NH GOP Senate Candidate: ‘Pro-Life with No Exceptions’

And we have yet another Tea Party Republican with radical anti-choice beliefs: Ovide Lamontagne, New Hampshire GOP candidate for the US Senate.

Lamontagne has stated that he is “pro-life” with no exceptions.

“No exceptions” means he would force a woman to carry a baby to term even if it was a product of rape or incest — and even if it would kill the mother and the baby.

This sickening anti-human view is nauseatingly prevalent in today’s Republican Party, and the new crop of teabaggers is the most extreme yet.

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1 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:39:09am

If he wins its the Democrats' fault.

2 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:39:55am
even if it would kill the mother and the baby.

Well, sure. Life is sacred and all.

3 Kragar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:40:00am

Bastards.

4 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:40:52am

Any relation to Ray? There's a singer with that same name from New Hampshire as well. Seriously though that's an extreme position. I mean I understand opposition to abortion but opposition in all cases is sick to me.

5 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:42:13am

Pro-the-life-of-fetuses-no-matter-the-cost-to-others, perhaps.

6 Mark Pennington  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:43:29am

Rape and incest are crimes. When we debate the abortion issue and throw in rape and incest, we play down the violence of rape, devalue victims and send the wrong message to the victims. That is irresponsible and SICK.

7 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:44:34am

Right now, his GOP opponent in the primary, Ayotte has been leading in all the polls. Those polls also put Ayotte over the Democrat challenger (Hodes), but things would get a whole lot closer if Lamontagne wins the primary.

From that, it would appear that Lamontagne's views are out of step with the people of NH, and even within the GOP (even as he pulls about 30% of the vote in the recent polls).

8 Obdicut  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:47:00am

And he's a Dick Armey/Forbes style tax moron, too:


Lamontagne supports making the Bush tax cuts permanent, while further cutting taxes for working families, phasing out the capital gains and interest and dividends taxes, and further reducing corporate taxes,

He wants unearned income to be tax-free. Make seventy million selling stock? no tax. Make seven hundred dollars washing dishes? Tax.

These people don't live in reality. They don't want to. They think that ignoring reality is taking a principled stand.

Doesn't matter that women will die, children will be abandoned, and the country would dissolve into an anarchic police state.

9 Winny Spencer  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:47:21am

So "pro-life" it becomes anti-life, repulsive.

10 Kronocide  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:47:26am

Pro-Dogma. Pro-Pandering.

11 allegro  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:47:33am

To understand opposition to abortion beyond the "I wouldn't choose it for myself (until I do)" position, means supporting the idea that women do not have the right of agency and self determination. It has nothing to do with the baybeeez.

12 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:47:58am

Well, obviously, having your egg implant in your fallopian tube is a sign that you have sinned and God is angry with you, so you should bear your death sentence with stoicism, like a good Christian.

Because, you know, Christ would have thrown that first rock.

(Not enough sarc tags in the world.)

13 darthstar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:48:04am

re: #7 lawhawk

Yep...Ayotte looks pretty safe right now. I don't see the Teabaggers winning this one, unfortunately, but there is Delaware.

14 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:48:43am

re: #11 allegro

To understand opposition to abortion beyond the "I wouldn't choose it for myself (until I do)" position, means supporting the idea that women do not have the right of agency and self determination. It has nothing to do with the baybeeez.

Well that and considering most of these people who if you suggest that we have social programs to help poor, unwed, and young mothers scream about socialism.

15 Henchman 25  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:49:19am

Yea. "Pro-life".

They care more about the fucking unborn fetuses than the lives of anybody else.

16 Obdicut  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:49:53am

re: #7 lawhawk

From that, it would appear that Lamontagne's views are out of step with the people of NH, and even within the GOP (even as he pulls about 30% of the vote in the recent polls).

Those polls show him pulling about 40%, not 30%.

Stuff like this always makes me curious about how many voters actually have any clue what his positions are. I seriously doubt that 40% of New Hampshireites would actually support those deranged positions.

17 allegro  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:50:22am

re: #15 SteelPH

Yea. "Pro-life".

They care more about the fucking unborn fetuses slut shaming than the lives of anybody else.

18 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:50:23am

re: #8 Obdicut

And he's a Dick Armey/Forbes style tax moron, too:

He wants unearned income to be tax-free. Make seventy million selling stock? no tax. Make seven hundred dollars washing dishes? Tax.

These people don't live in reality. They don't want to. They think that ignoring reality is taking a principled stand.

Doesn't matter that women will die, children will be abandoned, and the country would dissolve into an anarchic police state.

Once you start rejecting science, you have to reject it all, including economics.

19 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:51:27am

re: #13 darthstar

In NY, the big race is the GOP gubernatorial campaign between Lazio and Paladino. You've got nutter and nuttier in that one, but neither has a chance in hell of beating Cuomo (the current AG and D) in November.

NJ doesn't have anyone of consequence running statewide. No real races in North Jersey either. All the action is on the other side of the Hudson River.

20 Cineaste  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:51:29am

Anyone want to take a wager as to whether or not his radical pro-life views extend to reasonable gun control?

Oh right, the only lives people like this are truly concerned with are those that haven't been born yet. Once you're out, it's anybody's game...

21 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:52:36am

re: #8 Obdicut

And he's a Dick Armey/Forbes style tax moron, too:

He wants unearned income to be tax-free. Make seventy million selling stock? no tax. Make seven hundred dollars washing dishes? Tax.

These people don't live in reality. They don't want to. They think that ignoring reality is taking a principled stand.

Doesn't matter that women will die, children will be abandoned, and the country would dissolve into an anarchic police state.


I've long been of the thought that when Republican candidates take stances like this that the Dems should hammer away at them. I remember hearing that I guess it was Jim DeMint taking a position of eliminating the income tax and imposing a high sales tax. Such a stupid policy if you ask me since the poor and middle class will be screwed by a high sales tax. Yeah a high sales tax will be an annoyance but not a harmful policy to upper class voters.

22 Kragar  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:53:04am

This morning, Rush went out and said the Buckley model of voting for the most electable candidate was a dead idea. So what if the Tea Party candidate is 30 points behind in the polls? The powers of Americanism and Patriotism will make up those 30 points.

Rush just torpedoed the GOP.

23 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:53:59am

re: #21 HappyWarrior

I've long been of the thought that when Republican candidates take stances like this that the Dems should hammer away at them. I remember hearing that I guess it was Jim DeMint taking a position of eliminating the income tax and imposing a high sales tax. Such a stupid policy if you ask me since the poor and middle class will be screwed by a high sales tax. Yeah a high sales tax will be an annoyance but not a harmful policy to upper class voters.

That is exactly the idea of such proposals: shift the tax burden toward the poor, and away from the wealthy.

24 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:54:19am

When the alternative is to save one life, kill them both. This is pro-life?

25 Cineaste  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:54:31am

re: #22 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

This morning, Rush went out and said the Buckley model of voting for the most electable candidate was a dead idea. So what if the Tea Party candidate is 30 points behind in the polls? The powers of Americanism and Patriotism will make up those 30 points.

Rush just torpedoed the GOP.

Yeah - that's an answer to Krauthammar on Fox yesterday saying that Palin & Co were nuts for sinking Mike Castle.

26 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:54:37am

re: #23 Fozzie Bear

That is exactly the idea of such proposals: shift the tax burden toward the poor, and away from the wealthy.

Wasn't the French system something like that previous to say... 1789 or so?

27 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:55:11am

re: #24 Alouette

When the alternative is to save one life, kill them both. This is pro-life?

It's anti abortion, sure. But positions like that can't fairly be called pro- anything.

28 Cineaste  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:55:29am

re: #26 oaktree

Wasn't the French system something like that previous to say... 1789 or so?

Pretty much. That worked out really well, didn't it?

It's also pretty similar to the system in most Arab countries.

29 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:56:13am

re: #23 Fozzie Bear

That is exactly the idea of such proposals: shift the tax burden toward the poor, and away from the wealthy.


Don't they ironically enough heh call the thing a "fair tax." It's such crap really for the reasons stated.

30 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:56:49am

I have said this before: The easiest way to lower the number of abortions performed is to support that percentage of women who have abortions because they are scared, poor, and alone.

31 Obdicut  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 9:58:17am

re: #30 EmmmieG

And, of course, not to do abstinence-only sex education but focus on safe sex and education.

The harm reduction model, rather than the AA model.

32 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 10:02:45am

re: #26 oaktree

Wasn't the French system something like that previous to say... 1789 or so?

Believe it was a huge cause of the French revolution. Seriously this tax model is more elitist than any liberal who went to an Ivy League school and prefers wine to cheap beer.

33 Political Atheist  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 10:04:37am

What an idiot. It's settled law anyway. Roe V Wade is not going away.

34 Lidane  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 10:04:54am

re: #22 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

This morning, Rush went out and said the Buckley model of voting for the most electable candidate was a dead idea. So what if the Tea Party candidate is 30 points behind in the polls? The powers of Americanism and Patriotism will make up those 30 points.

Rush just torpedoed the GOP.

Good. I hope more people listen to him and decide that it's a good idea to take that advice.

Honestly, the sooner the lunatics and teabaggers bring the GOP to its knees, the better. Maybe then, the reasonable voices in the party that are now being marginalized as RINOs will be able to take the lead again and get the party back to some state of sanity.

35 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 10:05:24am

I'm starting to see this as part of the rejection of science. There was no "right to choose" when there was no ability to choose. Science leads to evil. Next: no cochlear implants, because God wanted you to be deaf. No stents, because you were meant for clogged arteries. No organ transplants, no insulin, no antibiotics.

36 kirkspencer  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 10:06:54am

re: #33 Rightwingconspirator

What an idiot. It's settled law anyway. Roe V Wade is not going away.

The folk opposed will point out that Dred Scott was settled law. Just something to keep in mind.

(yes, it terrifies me.)

37 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 10:07:16am

re: #33 Rightwingconspirator

What an idiot. It's settled law anyway. Roe V Wade is not going away.

I agree that Roe v. Wade is not going away, but the pushback never stops. Look at all the state laws that have been proposed to make obtaining an abortion more difficult and more expensive.

38 HappyWarrior  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 10:10:12am

re: #37 wrenchwench

I agree that Roe v. Wade is not going away, but the pushback never stops. Look at all the state laws that have been proposed to make obtaining an abortion more difficult and more expensive.

Plus there's been chipping away at privacy too like in that nutty Oklahoma law that gives the state access to the records of the women who got abortions. Creepy stuff and yet many of those proponents and their supporters are the same people yelling vocal about how Obama's policies are destroying our freedoms.

39 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 10:11:14am

I want to rape the GOP and then force it to have my baby.

40 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 10:12:42am

re: #39 Cato the Elder

I want to rape the GOP and then force it to have my baby.

Palin beat you to it, apparently.

41 Lidane  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 10:14:07am

re: #35 wrenchwench

I'm starting to see this as part of the rejection of science. There was no "right to choose" when there was no ability to choose. Science leads to evil.

Oh, it's absolutely a rejection of science, just like the anti-evolution crap.

Science leads to birth control, which leads to women having self-determination and agency, which violates God's law, or something. It's a truly sexist point of view, IMO.

42 Quant  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 10:16:27am

re: #35 wrenchwench

I'm starting to see this as part of the rejection of science. There was no "right to choose" when there was no ability to choose. Science leads to evil. Next: no cochlear implants, because God wanted you to be deaf. No stents, because you were meant for clogged arteries. No organ transplants, no insulin, no antibiotics.

Well, except if someone's in a coma and his/her family wants to turn off life support. Then science is good and it should be used to keep the person alive at all costs.

43 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 10:19:21am

re: #39 Cato the Elder

I want to rape the GOP and then force it to have my baby.

Join the GOP first: that would make it incestuous rape

44 Political Atheist  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 10:48:26am

Oh this is not good at all

[Link: politics.gather.com...]
2010 NH Primary Election: New poll shows tight race between Ayotte, Lamontagne
September 14, 2010 11:08 AM EDT (Updated: September 14, 2010 11:12 AM EDT)
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Voting in the 2010 New Hampshire primary election got underway early this morning. All eyes are on the key Senate race between Republicans Kelly Ayotte and Ovide Lamontagne, with a new poll showing the two candidates locked in a last minute horse race going into today's election. Officials in New Hampshire are expecting a record turnout in today's primary, but turnout appeared to be light when I cast my ballot in Portsmouth at around 9:00 AM.

The results of today's election will determine which Republican will face off against Democratic Congressman Paul Hodes in November. The winner will replace the outgoing Republican Senator Judd Gregg.

45 ClaudeMonet  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 11:20:25am

Ovide
Ovary

Very similar

Coincidence?

I don't know a thing about Ayotte, but that's who I'd vote for if I lived in NH.

46 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 11:35:37am

re: #26 oaktree

Wasn't the French system something like that previous to say... 1789 or so?

There's that damned sound again. Sounds like people knitting with the occasional meaty 'Thunk!' for punctuation.

47 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 11:52:20am

If tax cuts came with an obligation to invest at least 50% of them into domestic job creation, then I could begin to support them.

48 lostlakehiker  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 5:32:23pm

No exceptions? None? That's not even pro-life. If the Mother absolutely cannot carry the child to term, or to far enough along that it can then live, and if the pregnancy will kill her unless aborted, then by the logic of pro-life teaching, an abortion is necessary and appropriate.

As to rape and incest, there are so many good reasons for aborting that kind of pregnancy that the jaw drops at the thought of banning those abortions. The poor mother. It's a Rosemary's Baby situation for her. And what about society? The child of an incestuous relation is at drastically elevated risk of being so severely disabled that it will require many millions of dollars in care over its life. And not much of a life it will be, either. There are better uses for society's resources.

Absolutist positions take an already bad idea, banning abortion, and move it into the category of obscenely cruel and coercive.

49 jamesfirecat  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 7:11:48pm

re: #22 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

This morning, Rush went out and said the Buckley model of voting for the most electable candidate was a dead idea. So what if the Tea Party candidate is 30 points behind in the polls? The powers of Americanism and Patriotism will make up those 30 points.

Rush just torpedoed the GOP.

Remind me to send him a gift basket.


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