Dan Riehl: Investigate Karl Rove for Showing Signs of Intelligence

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Any conservative who dares to criticize the nomination of Christine O’Donnell is getting smacked around and threatened with excommunication by the teabag base — even Karl Rove, that RINO.

Here’s one of the dimmest of the wingnut bloggers, Dan Riehl, demanding that Karl Rove be suspended from Fox News and “investigated” for not supporting the anti-masturbation, anti-gay, young earth creationist O’Donnell: Fox Should Suspend Rove And Investigate, Cornyn Must Resign.

Michelle Malkin has a very solid reaction to Karl Rove’s disgraceful behavior on Fox News tonight. That is not why Fox should suspend him and investigate. According to this report, Rove was working behind the scenes on  behalf of the Castle campaign to negotiate a deal that would have led to some Delaware Tea Party groups not supporting Christine O’Donnell, while giving Mike Castle a pass.

Especially given his comments on Fox News tonight, until this is resolved, it seems impossible to trust Rove as an objective analyst. In terms of the conservative movement, we should not simply ignore him, but proactively work to undermine Rove in whatever ways we can, given his obvious willingness to undermine us.

In which universe was Karl Rove ever “an objective analyst?” My goodness. That’s some high octane self-delusion there.

I apologize for inflicting that freakish nonsense on you, but Riehl’s attitude is typical of the Know Nothing Party; a universal call to lynch Karl Rove went out when he said O’Donnell might not be the smartest choice for the GOP.

And now, National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Cornyn has put out a statement embracing Christine O’Donnell.

It’s a teabag world. We’re all just steeping in it.

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158 comments
1 mr.fusion  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 9:49:55am

Michelle Malkin has a very solid reaction

I had to stop reading right there.......

2 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 9:50:22am

Its never pretty when the monster turns on the evil scientist who created it.

3 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 9:51:31am

Christine O'Donnell and Dan Riehl: dumb and dumber.

4 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 9:53:34am

But I was assured just this morning that:

Given that the GOP leadership don't back this lady in Delaware, and have told her to go pound sand, and as the fellow she defeated isn't throwing support behind her campaign, it's difficult to argue that the leadership of the party have lost their bearings

Talking points die as quickly as they're created, these days.

5 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 9:53:38am

Darth Rove: Fluke, you are my son.
Tea Party Candidate: Nooooooooooo!
Darth Rove: Well do you think I'm happy about it?

6 ErikJ76  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 9:55:42am

The right wingers really want their news 'Unfair and unbalanced'....

7 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 9:56:22am

re: #6 ErikJ76

The right wingers really want their news 'Unfair and unbalanced'...

They couldn't get much more unbalanced without being hauled off to a sanitarium.

8 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 9:56:31am

To be fair it's not just racial purity the wingnuts are after. They like all of their groups pure. /maybe

9 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 9:57:02am

Personally, I can't get past her stance on masturbation... I'm a righty... and frankly? I'm fer it.

10 jaunte  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 9:57:50am

The dimmer McCain is jeering at Rove for acting like he's 'the smartest guy in the room' while talking with Hannity.

11 Mark Pennington  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 9:57:51am

Rove will apologize and change his tune to save his popularity. Wait and see...2 weeks at the most.

12 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 9:57:55am
13 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 9:59:53am

re: #9 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh! Ha! Get it? Rightie? Masturbation!

I kill me!

14 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:00:05am

re: #11 beekiller

Rove will apologize and change his tune to save his popularity. Wait and see...2 weeks at the most.

Please, since when has Karl Rove cared about his own popularity?

15 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:00:11am

re: #9 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Personally, I can't get past her stance on masturbation... I'm a righty... and frankly? I'm fer it.

I will be sure to shake your left hand if we ever meet.

16 Mark Pennington  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:00:35am

OT: [Link: bighollywood.breitbart.com...]

LoLoLoL

17 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:02:09am

re: #12 Killgore Trout

Here's Roves Fox Appearance: Right-wing media turn on Rove for "trashing" O'Donnell

Hmm..Rove is predicting 7-8 seat pickup in the fall.

18 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:02:18am

re: #16 beekiller

OT: [Link: bighollywood.breitbart.com...]

LoLoLoL

Good grief what a bunch of morons and weirdos.

19 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:04:43am
It's a teabag world. We're all just steeping in it.

I wish they'd leaf me alone.

20 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:06:19am

OT: After 2 hours of hacking away at it, I finally patched together a way to write a script which allows me to OCR a PDF, then embed the plaintext back into the PDF and save it, all using a simple right-click within the gnome desktop in Ubuntu.

This may seem really nerdy and boring, but holy crap I have just saved myself countless hours of work.

(Yes, I know this is stupid easy to do in windows, but I have been wanting to be able to do this in linux with minimal fuss for some time now)

Now to write a script for the windows clients on the network to allow them to run this script on the ubuntu server with a right click and deposit the resulting file back on the windows desktop. Ugh.

I love computers, and I hate them.

Back to your regularly scheduled political debate.

21 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:06:29am

re: #15 DaddyG

I will be sure to shake your left hand if we ever meet.

I'd probably warn you against my elbows too. And.. watch out for those couch cushions.

22 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:08:07am

re: #21 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Damn, because I was really planning on spending a lot of time shaking your elbows while rubbing my face on your couch cushions.

23 Slap  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:08:20am

Especially given his comments on Fox News tonight, until this is resolved, it seems impossible to trust Rove as an objective analyst.

The irony BURNS on this one. A conservative ciriticizing Fox for having an analyst who's not objective is a bit like criticizing the NFL for having guys who play football....

24 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:08:29am

re: #20 Fozzie Bear

Ahh crap it's cropping off the bottom third of my PDF's for some reason. I fail. Back to the drawing board.

25 windsagio  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:10:55am

I just wanna ask him: "Oh Karl, Karl... did you really think it wouldn't backfire eventually?"

26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:11:03am

re: #20 Fozzie Bear

This lawn supervisor was out on a sprinkler maintenance job, and he started working on a Findlay sprinkler head with a Langstrom seven-inch gangly wrench. Just then this little apprentice leaned over and said, 'You can't work on a Findlay sprinkler head with a Langstrom seven-inch wrench.' Well, this infuriated the supervisor, so he went and got Volume 14 of the Kinsley manual, and he reads to him and says, 'The Langstrom seven-inch wrench can be used with the Findlay sprocket.' Just then the little apprentice leaned over and says, 'It says sprocket, not socket!'
-Steve Martin

27 celticdragon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:11:07am

Charles...everybody else?

You guys need to see this for yourselves.

I am not ready to really comment on this yet. I'm still in shock.

28 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:11:14am

re: #16 beekiller

OT: [Link: bighollywood.breitbart.com...]

LoLoLoL

Oh man. How pathetic. And look at all the comments praising her as a genius!

29 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:11:45am

re: #22 Obdicut

You need a hobby.

30 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:13:18am

re: #27 celticdragon

Charles...everybody else?

You guys need to see this for yourselves.

I am not ready to really comment on this yet. I'm still in shock.

Is the bad craziness accelerating out of control like an unrecalled Toyota, or is it me?

31 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:13:22am

If you haven't seen it, you have to watch this.

[Link: www.xtranormal.com...]

32 abbyadams  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:14:01am

Karl, my man...you made this bed, you lie in it. Sorry, but I have pity for all the real and good so-called "RINOs" that are suffering. People who, you know, have ideas for helping this country. Ideas that have nothing to do with cultural warfare.

33 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:14:22am

re: #28 Charles

Frankly, I loved her on SNL. The "dim-bulb ditzy-blonde" that she normally played did little to make me to want to take her seriously.

34 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:14:42am

re: #26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This lawn supervisor was out on a sprinkler maintenance job, and he started working on a Findlay sprinkler head with a Langstrom seven-inch gangly wrench. Just then this little apprentice leaned over and said, 'You can't work on a Findlay sprinkler head with a Langstrom seven-inch wrench.' Well, this infuriated the supervisor, so he went and got Volume 14 of the Kinsley manual, and he reads to him and says, 'The Langstrom seven-inch wrench can be used with the Findlay sprocket.' Just then the little apprentice leaned over and says, 'It says sprocket, not socket!'
-Steve Martin

Oh no, there's blow-by at the compound jasper flange!!!

(This is what we say around the office when something arcane and technical goes wrong. It's code for "the shit just broke. Fix it.")

35 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:14:57am

re: #33 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Frankly, I loved her on SNL. The "dim-bulb ditzy-blonde" that she normally played did little to make me to want to take her seriously.

That wasn't an act.

36 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:15:21am

re: #32 abbyadams

Karl, my man...you made this bed, you lie in it. Sorry, but I have pity for all the real and good so-called "RINOs" that are suffering. People who, you know, have ideas for helping this country. Ideas that have nothing to do with cultural warfare.

Amen (pun intended).

37 abbyadams  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:15:35am

re: #16 beekiller

I had to quit. I just ate.

38 celticdragon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:15:55am

re: #31 karmic_inquisitor

If you haven't seen it, you have to watch this.

[Link: www.xtranormal.com...]

Chock full of win.

39 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:16:18am

The #tcot feed on Twitter is really crazy today.

Message to Rove: Next time you wanna win an election, better put on a black wig and make-up, GOOOO O'Donnell! #tcot

40 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:16:38am

re: #35 Charles

She was cute as a button on the show... I've seen her since... just can't take her seriously... that's what I was sayin'...

41 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:16:43am

re: #16 beekiller

OT: [Link: bighollywood.breitbart.com...]

LoLoLoL

I think she accidentally the whole thing.

42 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:18:28am

re: #30 Charles

Is the bad craziness accelerating out of control like an unrecalled Toyota, or is it me?

It isn't you. The worst parts of "conservatism" (Im not even comfortable crediting them with that title) are salivating at the chance to gain power during an off year with a rough economy. They also feel entitled since the long time Rove GOP machine lost the last Presidential election.

The fringe smells blood in the water and sees an opportunity to take over the party. They are interpreting general dissatisfaction with the Obama administration and the Legislature as validation of their nuttiness. They are wrong but it wont stop them from coming out of the racist/nationalist/isolationist/nutterist/etcist closet and doing some real damage to the concept of limited government and fiscal responsibility in order to push their own agendas.

43 celticdragon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:18:29am

re: #39 Charles

The #tcot feed on Twitter is really crazy today.

You should have read the comments at Hannity.com when Fox reported that the NRSC was washing their hands of her campaign.

You had to wipe the spittle off the screen.

44 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:18:32am

You know what else is pretty hilarious? The wingnuts are acting as if though they've taken over the country over last night's election results in Delaware. Get this. O'Donnell only got 30,561 votes and Castle got 27,021 votes. That's a total of 57,582 vote in the Delaware GOP senatorial primary.

And here's the State of Delaware Elections Voter Registration Totals

Statewide

292,738 Democrats
182,796 Republicans
146,212 Other
621,746 Total

So if 100 percent of registered Republicans vote and vote for O'Donnell that means the GOP would have to pick up 109,943 independents or 75 percent of independent. And that's just to win by one single vote. That's not going to happen.

All told only 4.91 percent of all registered voters and 16.7 percent of registered Republicans in Delaware voted for O'Donnell.

45 abbyadams  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:18:59am

Here's what I want to know. So, you have a party that increasingly lives in an echo chamber (Fox news, talk radio), and believes that "Real Americans" really want what they do, politically, and culturally...and think they're in the majority. What's going to happen when they lose? Because they may win battles...but they're going to lose the war.

I wonder if they will draft women.

46 CuriousLurker  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:19:32am

The crazy train just keeps on rolling down the tracks, faster & faster. Maybe if we create a riddle...

Blaine the Mono is a fictional character in author Stephen King's The Dark Tower series. Blaine is immortalized as one of the subjects of Jake Chambers' English essay entitled "My Understanding of Truth".

Blaine is a creation of North Central Positronics. Much more than a mere train, Blaine is also a part of the computer intelligence running the city of Lud and influencing the Pubes and Grays that dwell there.

Blaine has gone mad and has split into two personalities: Big Blaine, who runs the show, and Little Blaine, the representative of the remainder of Blaine's sanity.

Blaine is obsessed with riddles, to the point where he makes a deal with Roland and his ka-tet: if they can stump him with a riddle, Blaine will deliver them safely to their destination. If they have failed to stump the Mono by the time they reach Topeka, they will be unwilling participants in Blaine's suicide.

[Link: www.thedarktower.com...]

47 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:20:45am

re: #30 Charles

Is the bad craziness accelerating out of control like an unrecalled Toyota, or is it me?

Prepare ship for Ludicrous Speed, fasten all seat belts, close all shops in the mall, cancel the three ring circus, secure all animals in the zoo...

48 Interesting Times  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:20:46am

re: #32 abbyadams

Karl, my man...you made this bed, you lie in it. Sorry, but I have pity for all the real and good so-called "RINOs" that are suffering. People who, you know, have ideas for helping this country. Ideas that have nothing to do with cultural warfare.

Exactly. Rove, the not-so-magnificent bastard, can go waterboard himself with a bucket of his own tears :P

49 celticdragon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:20:50am

re: #44 Gus 802

You know what else is pretty hilarious? The wingnuts are acting as if though they've taken over the country over last night's election results in Delaware. Get this. O'Donnell only got 30,561 votes and Castle got 27,021 votes. That's a total of 57,582 vote in the Delaware GOP senatorial primary.

And here's the State of Delaware Elections Voter Registration Totals

So if 100 percent of registered Republicans vote and vote for O'Donnell that means the GOP would have to pick up 109,943 independents or 75 percent of independent. And that's just to win by one single vote. That's not going to happen.

All told only 4.91 percent of all registered voters and 16.7 percent of registered Republicans in Delaware voted for O'Donnell.

Nearly half of Castle's voters are predicted to vote for the Dem according to exit polling. O'Donnell ran a spectacularly nasty campaign...and it will be remembered.

50 CarleeCork  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:21:12am

re: #30 Charles

Is the bad craziness accelerating out of control like an unrecalled Toyota, or is it me?


The craziness is overwhelming. I just want to stay home with the blinds closed.

51 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:21:56am

Well, it only took the GOP 12 hours to do an about face on O'Donnell and claim to be unified in their support of her. The NRSC sent her a $42,000 check today, and Mitt Romney says his PAC will also give her some funding. (42k isn't exactly campaign support, it's lipstick on a pig)

52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:22:36am

re: #27 celticdragon

That is not a recent thing. This has been going on for years. The black folks in those pictures obviously portray slaves for their living; it's their living. Please don't impugn their livelihood. That being said...

The State Senator? WTF?

53 celticdragon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:23:02am

re: #47 jamesfirecat

Prepare ship for Ludicrous Speed, fasten all seat belts, close all shops in the mall, cancel the three ring circus, secure all animals in the zoo...


Officer of the Watch: Sir, we hit an effing 'uge iceberg! We are taking on water by the bow.


Captain: Give the highest paying passengers a tax break. That will solve everything.

54 Kragar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:23:26am

re: #30 Charles

Is the bad craziness accelerating out of control like an unrecalled Toyota, or is it me?

Its feeding on itself, until the eventual implosion.

55 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:23:31am

re: #47 jamesfirecat

(Spaceballs, auto ding)

56 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:24:08am

re: #44 Gus 802

Rinse and repeat for NY (see page 10 of 10 for the totals statewide) - it's the same basic issue.

NYS total enrolled voters: 11,658,344
NYS active enrolled: 10,612,515

Registered Dem active enrolled: 5,245,325
Registered GOP active enrolled: 2,700,764

About 50,000 are registered independent or any other minor parties currently active. That means that for a GOPer to win a statewide race in NY, you'd have to peel off significant numbers of Democrats to win. That will not happen with Paladino.

57 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:24:10am

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That is not a recent thing. This has been going on for years. The black folks in those pictures obviously portray slaves for their living; it's their living. Please don't impugn their livelihood. That being said...

The State Senator? WTF?

Exactly...they're paid characters. I just hope they cost the Republicans throwing that party a bunch of money.

58 CarleeCork  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:24:41am

re: #45 abbyadams

Here's what I want to know. So, you have a party that increasingly lives in an echo chamber (Fox news, talk radio), and believes that "Real Americans" really want what they do, politically, and culturally...and think they're in the majority. What's going to happen when they lose? Because they may win battles...but they're going to lose the war.

I wonder if they will draft women.


One of them already said she will resort to the 2nd Amendment.

59 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:25:26am

re: #49 celticdragon

Nearly half of Castle's voters are predicted to vote for the Dem according to exit polling. O'Donnell ran a spectacularly nasty campaign...and it will be remembered.

Yep. I presented a best case scenario in which 100 percent of Republicans would vote for O'Donnell. Then they would need to get 75 percent of independents or maybe even Democrats. Not enough Koolaid in the state of Delaware for that to happen. The GOP doesn't even have the base numbers for O'Donnell and with the exit polling you indicated makes the whole endeavor fruitless. O'Donnell will get nearly zero support from the National Republican Senatorial Committee. Knowing this, the fact that they are now turning on Rove makes it all the more laughable.

60 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:26:11am

re: #53 celticdragon

Officer of the Watch: Sir, we hit an effing 'uge iceberg! We are taking on water by the bow.


Captain: Give the highest paying passengers a tax break. That will solve everything.

Beggin your pardon Cap'n but we'd best make White Star lines provide low interst loans to the folks in steerage. They can buy us out of this mess!


(It sort of like Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum fighting over who's plan to save us from them is best.)

61 abbyadams  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:26:42am

re: #58 CarleeCork

Right. I dislike this whole thing intensely. It was bad enough when ACORN was around as a scapegoat.

62 celticdragon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:27:24am

re: #57 darthstar

Exactly...they're paid characters. I just hope they cost the Republicans throwing that party a bunch of money.

Most of you know I loves me some re-enacting.

But portraying a house mammy and a grinning field slave for Southern white politicians dressed up as Confederates?

I can't go there. They may be making a buck...but I really can't endorse that one. I am going to send this to my African American History prof tonight.

63 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:28:26am

re: #56 lawhawk

I omitted one column - those enrolled who left party affiliation blank - just over 2 million of those. That would require Paladino to hold all the GOP, take all the blank affiliation voters, and still need to pull more Democrat-enrolled NYers to win.

It still has no chance of happening.

64 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:28:31am

re: #62 celticdragon

Most of you know I loves me some re-enacting.

But portraying a house mammy and a grinning field slave for Southern white politicians dressed up as Confederates?

I can't go there. They may be making a buck...but I really can't endorse that one. I am going to send this to my African American History prof tonight.


Party City was sold out of the Fredrick Douglass costumes. /

65 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:28:52am

re: #51 darthstar

Well, it only took the GOP 12 hours to do an about face on O'Donnell and claim to be unified in their support of her. The NRSC sent her a $42,000 check today, and Mitt Romney says his PAC will also give her some funding. (42k isn't exactly campaign support, it's lipstick on a pig)

Chump change. And who's Mitt Romney going to convince in Delaware? Not the registered Democrats. He'd have to convince the Republicans supported Castle (while opposing O'Donnell) and over 75 percent of the independents. Again, not going to happen. Most people in Delaware won't even know about Romney's endorsement nor care.

66 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:29:55am

re: #63 lawhawk

I omitted one column - those enrolled who left party affiliation blank - just over 2 million of those. That would require Paladino to hold all the GOP, take all the blank affiliation voters, and still need to pull more Democrat-enrolled NYers to win.

It still has no chance of happening.

I think the odds of getting hit by lightening are higher. OK, maybe not but it's somewhere in that range.

67 celticdragon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:30:25am

re: #65 Gus 802

Chump change. And who's Mitt Romney going to convince in Delaware? Not the registered Democrats. He'd have to convince the Republicans supported Castle (while opposing O'Donnell) and over 75 percent of the independents. Again, not going to happen. Most people in Delaware won't even know about Romney's endorsement nor care.

It will be the new litmus test for party purity. What the people in Delaware think is besides the point.

68 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:30:56am

re: #65 Gus 802

Chump change. And who's Mitt Romney going to convince in Delaware? Not the registered Democrats. He'd have to convince the Republicans supported Castle (while opposing O'Donnell) and over 75 percent of the independents. Again, not going to happen. Most people in Delaware won't even know about Romney's endorsement nor care.

Romney's just trying to get Teabagger support for the 2012 Primary season. He knows they consider him a freak due to his religion, but if he supports one of them, then he can't be all bad, right?

69 Kragar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:32:18am

re: #68 darthstar

Romney's just trying to get Teabagger support for the 2012 Primary season. He knows they consider him a freak due to his religion, but if he supports one of them, then he can't be all bad, right?

All that endorsement is going to do is loose him supporters.

70 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:33:36am

This is all just a build-up to the coming zombie apocalypse. Get your chainsaws oiled and your shotguns cleaned.

71 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:33:57am

re: #62 celticdragon

If there were plantation shows but black performers were not allowed to perform because of the "taste" issue, would it be fair to the black performers?

I'm willing to bet that both of those performers have a degree regarding antebellum musicology or somesuch...

By the way, does anybody know if the term "Negro Spiritual" is still an okay term to use?

72 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:34:13am

Note how fluid things are:

Democrats Re-Establish Narrow Edge in Party Affiliation
September 15, 2010

Slightly more Americans identify as Democrats or lean Democratic (44%) than identify as or lean Republican (41%) in September to date. This re-establishes a Democratic edge after the parties were even in August, but is well below the 17-point advantage Democrats held when President Obama took office.

Yes it's lower than 2008 but it just split:

Image: zmiz2ogtbkurthy0zbxxcg.gif

73 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:34:54am

re: #68 darthstar

Romney's just trying to get Teabagger support for the 2012 Primary season. He knows they consider him a freak due to his religion, but if he supports one of them, then he can't be all bad, right?

I don't get Romney going the populist route. He was defended pretty vigorously from Rs and Ds when Huckabee used a dog whistle anti-Mormon remark with the Southern Evangelicals. Why he feels the need to pander is beyond me.

I was sorely disappointed when he took the spineless position of "the mosque is legal but should they do it?" Expecially with the history the Mormons faced being driven from state to state and denied their own property and governance for their peculiar beliefs.

He's showing that he is a perfectly political animal even if it costs his principles.

Sad.

74 celticdragon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:35:54am

re: #68 darthstar

Romney's just trying to get Teabagger support for the 2012 Primary season. He knows they consider him a freak due to his religion, but if he supports one of them, then he can't be all bad, right?

He has "establishment insider" written all over him. The Tea party will vote for a corpse draped in a Gadsden Flag before they vote for a blow dried, establishment squish who invented mandatory health care in Massachusetts like Romney. The Mormon thing is icing on the cake. I have no idea why he thinks the evangelical fundy wing will be any more forgiving of that now than four years ago.

75 Kragar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:36:18am

re: #70 Fozzie Bear

This is all just a build-up to the coming zombie apocalypse. Get your chainsaws oiled and your shotguns cleaned.

Amateur.

76 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:37:14am

re: #71 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If there were plantation shows but black performers were not allowed to perform because of the "taste" issue, would it be fair to the black performers?

I'm willing to bet that both of those performers have a degree regarding antebellum musicology or somesuch...

By the way, does anybody know if the term "Negro Spiritual" is still an okay term to use?


I've used it as casually as "Viennese Waltz" when referring to a particular historical style of music. I think context is critical here however and describing the Wynans as "negro spiritual" singers would be crass.

77 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:37:20am

The Values Voter Summit this weekend is going to be a real freak show. The nuts are going to be really worked up, and almost anything could happen.

78 CuriousLurker  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:37:28am

How the crazy train will (hopefully) look a few years from now:

Image: Abandoned-Clown-Train.jpg

79 jaunte  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:37:33am

re: #70 Fozzie Bear

This is all just a build-up to the coming zombie apocalypse. Get your chainsaws oiled and your shotguns cleaned.

Paladino does have that look about the eyes:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

80 engineer cat  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:37:41am

Fox Should Suspend Rove

how many republicans and conservatives can the wingnuts declare heretics before they've excommunicated the entire country?

only a couple of weeks ago gen petraeus was declared a wimp and a traitor for daring to suggest that qu'ran burning might be undesirable. and, it's been useless for quite a while to refer to anything the bush administration did in regard to bailout policies or distinction between al qaida and islam without hearing from wingnuts that bush was a "closet liberal"

i remember a picture of giuliani, schwartzenegger, and mccain standing together at a podium. limbaugh ran this picture with the caption: "three liberals"

81 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:37:48am

Coons up in first poll

PPP, which seems to have gotten the Delaware primary dynamic about right, goes over the numbers from its last poll:

Republicans more than likely cost themselves a Senate seat last night.

Chris Coons begins the general election in Delaware with a 50-34 lead over Christine O'Donnell.

Mike Castle would have led Coons by a 45-35 margin.

82 Nick Schroeder  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:37:53am

Newt is already lighting up Facebook with the backpedaling.

http://www.newt.org/newt-direct/gingrich-statement-christine-odonnell-victory-us-senate-gop-primary-delaware

I like the term 'elite media'. It suggests that media is the superior example of excellence, and therefore bad, and what true Americans should seek out is sub-standard 'shit media'.

83 jaunte  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:38:52am

re: #80 engineer dog

Fox Should Suspend Rove

how many republicans and conservatives can the wingnuts declare heretics before they've excommunicated the entire country?

only a couple of weeks ago gen petraeus was declared a wimp and a traitor for daring to suggest that qu'ran burning might be undesirable. and, it's been useless for quite a while to refer to anything the bush administration did in regard to bailout policies or distinction between al qaida and islam without hearing from wingnuts that bush was a "closet liberal"

i remember a picture of giuliani, schwartzenegger, and mccain standing together at a podium. limbaugh ran this picture with the caption: "three liberals"

Luckily for the rest of us, party purity is a subtractive process.

84 JeffM70  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:39:06am

Karl Rove could be trusted as an objective news analyst before this incident? Who knew?

85 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:39:43am

re: #78 CuriousLurker

How the crazy train will (hopefully) look a few years from now:

Image: Abandoned-Clown-Train.jpg

There will always be someone willing to drive the crazy clown train. Always.

86 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:40:22am

re: #82 Nick Schroeder

Newt is already lighting up Facebook with the backpedaling.

http://www.newt.org/newt-direct/gingrich-statement -christine-odonnell-victory-us-senate-gop-primary- delaware

I like the term 'elite media'. It suggests that media is the superior example of excellence, and therefore bad, and what true Americans should seek out is sub-standard 'shit media'.

He's dreaming.

87 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:40:34am

re: #76 DaddyG

Biiig difference in Black Gospel and a Negro Spiritual.

Mahalia Jackson, for example was a great Black Gospel Singer who also lent her unique talents to Negro Spirituals.

88 rhino2  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:41:07am

re: #82 Nick Schroeder

Newt is already lighting up Facebook with the backpedaling.

http://www.newt.org/newt-direct/gingrich-statement -christine-odonnell-victory-us-senate-gop-primary- delaware

I like the term 'elite media'. It suggests that media is the superior example of excellence, and therefore bad, and what true Americans should seek out is sub-standard 'shit media'.

Yes it's an odd twist of the word "elite" to mean something horrific and scary (read: communist), something I've never understood given the word's actual meaning.

89 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:41:19am

My goodness. Such hatred coming at me today from the right wing blogs. For example:

Bashing Charles Johnson Is Like Heckling The Special Olympics

This person tried to register an account yesterday.

90 Kragar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:41:29am

re: #77 Charles

The Values Voter Summit this weekend is going to be a real freak show. The nuts are going to be really worked up, and almost anything could happen.

I won't vote for anyone who panders to that crowd.

Sorry Mitt.

91 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:42:19am

re: #77 Charles

The Values Voter Summit this weekend is going to be a real freak show. The nuts are going to be really worked up, and almost anything could happen.

I just hope the mask comes completely off. I hope they declare the Tea Party to be the wholly owned franchise of Social Conservatism that it is. I hope they lay out all of the new programs and government expansion that wil be required to enforce the will of God over the American people.

Won't hapen, though. As O'Donnell has demonstrated, these are accomplished liars.

92 celticdragon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:43:25am

re: #71 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If there were plantation shows but black performers were not allowed to perform because of the "taste" issue, would it be fair to the black performers?

I'm willing to bet that both of those performers have a degree regarding antebellum musicology or somesuch...

By the way, does anybody know if the term "Negro Spiritual" is still an okay term to use?

Context.

Keep that in mind when you see Southern white pols dressed as Confederate officers along with African American dressed as field hand slaves or house servants with instruments.

“To rob the Negro of his reputation of thinking through a problem in his own fashion is about the same as trying to pretend that he doesn’t have a natural instinct for rhythm and for singing and dancing.”

- Jesse Helms writing in 1956 on life in his hometown of Monroe, N.C.

Context.

93 Interesting Times  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:44:14am

re: #85 DaddyG

There will always be someone willing to drive the crazy clown train. Always.

...which I'm okay with, as long as they continue to drive it like this ;)

94 engineer cat  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:44:14am

Bashing Charles Johnson Is Like Heckling The Special Olympics

ah, i remember well when i heard people fling these kind of insults - i was eleven years old once, too, you know

95 sliv_the_eli  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:44:34am

I said it before and will say it again. The Republican Party is so busy eating its own that it will pull defeat out of the jaws of victory and leave this country at the mercy of one-party rule for at least another two years.

96 rhino2  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:45:34am

re: #89 Charles

My goodness. Such hatred coming at me today from the right wing blogs. For example:

Bashing Charles Johnson Is Like Heckling The Special Olympics

This person tried to register an account yesterday.

I own the world? BigFurHat? I find it hard to get any further than that with any kind of high expectations.

97 webevintage  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:47:36am

I was listening to Ms. O'Donnell's speech from last night again and at one point she makes a little reference to "character assassination".
I have a feeling that that is how she plans on answering all of the questions Dems may use against here:
tax questions, misuse of campaign funds, a trail of lies like not really having attended college and gotten a Master's degree....this chick has some baggage.

None of it will matter to her or her voters since it is just the Dems and the lamestream media picking on her.

Should like someone we know?

98 engineer cat  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:48:16am

re: #87 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Biiig difference in Black Gospel and a Negro Spiritual.

Mahalia Jackson, for example was a great Black Gospel Singer who also lent her unique talents to Negro Spirituals.

from what little i know about it, the tradition of spirituals was well established by the middle of the 19th century, and involves a more traditional style of singing, whereas gospel, it seems, was actually invented in the 1920s as a way of bringing in more emotional and rhythmic popular elements, in the spirit of martin luther when he said "don't let the devil get all the good tunes"

99 celticdragon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:49:00am

re: #95 sliv_the_eli

I said it before and will say it again. The Republican Party is so busy eating its own that it will pull defeat out of the jaws of victory and leave this country at the mercy of one-party rule for at least another two years.

It just might work out that way. There are rumblings that Dems all over the country are essentially going to run against O'Donnell/Angle/etc in their races..and tie the actual GOP opponent to them in every ad. This enforced purity litmus testing will make that rather easy.

100 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:49:25am

At Gateway Pundit...

"Fox News should require Rove to answer to this charge. If he really did act as a helpmate for Rep. Mike Castle this damages Rove’s veracity as an analyst. He has just made himself suspect. You can’t be both a political player and an autonomous, disinterested analyst. Will Fox suspend Rove over this? They certainly should if he really did work to help Castle, in any case." -- Warner Todd Huston

When has Rove ever been an "autonomous, disinterested analyst?" Rove is a GOP operative working for a Republican media tool. That's his fucking job. Warner Todd Huston is an idiot if he thinks otherwise.

102 avanti  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:50:14am

Rush on Rove:

Video.

103 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:51:11am

re: #20 Fozzie Bear

OT: After 2 hours of hacking away at it, I finally patched together a way to write a script which allows me to OCR a PDF, then embed the plaintext back into the PDF and save it, all using a simple right-click within the gnome desktop in Ubuntu.

This may seem really nerdy and boring, but holy crap I have just saved myself countless hours of work.

(Yes, I know this is stupid easy to do in windows, but I have been wanting to be able to do this in linux with minimal fuss for some time now)

Now to write a script for the windows clients on the network to allow them to run this script on the ubuntu server with a right click and deposit the resulting file back on the windows desktop. Ugh.

I love computers, and I hate them.

Back to your regularly scheduled political debate.

HAL 9000: Fozzie, I can't do that. But did you hear the one about the three ducks that come walking into a bar?

;)

104 celticdragon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:51:29am

re: #100 darthstar

At Gateway Pundit...

When has Rove ever been an "autonomous, disinterested analyst?" Rove is a GOP operative working for a Republican media tool. That's his fucking job. Warner Todd Huston is an idiot if he thinks otherwise.

Not any more. Rove has joined the RINO brigade. Off to the Eastern Front!


*WW II humor regarding disgraced Wehrmacht officers*

105 JeffM70  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:51:29am

These people are almost euphoric in their liberation from logic and reason. They're actually proud to surrender to their fear, prejudices, and paranoia.

107 JeffM70  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:53:42am

re: #100 darthstar

They've totally given in to their fantasy world. But it proves the point that all they seek is validation of their own views rather than truth.

108 rhino2  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:53:50am

re: #105 JeffM70

These people are almost euphoric in their liberation from logic and reason. They're actually proud to surrender to their fear, prejudices, and paranoia.

They're just being GOOD 'MERKINS

109 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:53:52am

re: #97 webevintage

None of it will matter to her or her voters since it is just the Dems and the lamestream media picking on her.

Should like someone we know?

Sarah Palin, Sharron Angle, Rand Paul all come to mind.

110 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:54:09am

re: #89 Charles

My goodness. Such hatred coming at me today from the right wing blogs. For example:

Bashing Charles Johnson Is Like Heckling The Special Olympics

This person tried to register an account yesterday.

And she says:

So, I’m not going to bash Charles Johnson anymore. I’m going to bash his audience instead.

That's quite the ego on display there. A half witted imbecile with Obama derangement syndrome and an amateurish ability at photo editing. I'll forget they even existed within the next hour.

111 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:54:23am

re: #97 webevintage
Lots of people confuse character assassination with character suicide.

112 researchok  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:54:30am

re: #104 celticdragon

'There can be no deviation. The slightest deviation will be punished'

The right is taking their cues from Mao's Little Red Book.

113 Kragar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:54:39am

re: #105 JeffM70

These people are almost euphoric in their liberation from logic and reason. They're actually proud to surrender to their fear, prejudices, and paranoia.

The biggest conspiracy of all is that they're just not important enough for anyone to bother to with a conspiracy involving them. They hate that.

114 researchok  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:55:20am

re: #110 Gus 802

And she says:

That's quite the ego on display there. A half witted imbecile with Obama derangement syndrome and an amateurish ability at photo editing. I'll forget they even existed within the next hour.

I knew you were slow.
//

115 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:56:37am

re: #114 researchok

I knew you were slow.
//

OK 2 minutes. Tops.

That comment would get Christine O'Donnell's mind swirling. Of course that doesn't take much effort.

116 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:57:05am

re: #110 Gus 802

And she says:

That's quite the ego on display there. A half witted imbecile with Obama derangement syndrome and an amateurish ability at photo editing. I'll forget they even existed within the next hour.

That's the nutjob who supplies Pamela Geller with crude photoshops of me as the joker, Elena Kagan as a Nazi, etc.

There's a chorus of idiot wingnut parrots on Twitter who instantly retweet any articles like this.

117 webevintage  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:57:47am

re: #91 karmic_inquisitor

I just hope the mask comes completely off. I hope they declare the Tea Party to be the wholly owned franchise of Social Conservatism that it is. I hope they lay out all of the new programs and government expansion that wil be required to enforce the will of God over the American people.

Won't hapen, though. As O'Donnell has demonstrated, these are accomplished liars.

Yep.
And there is large segment of the population who do not care if she is a liar.
They will just say she is being picked on.

The sad thing is, the Tea Party Movement really could have been something good, but with it's intermingling of soc con views and just plain crazy it has become the "we're white and middle aged and the world is changing so that freaks us out thank god for Srah Palin and Glenn Beck" Party.
But what it has mostly become is a movement that allows Dick Army and friends to amass a lot of power and wealth.

119 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:59:47am

The funny thing is that they include my Twitter username with it, so I'll be sure to see it -- as if they think it's going to damage me somehow. They seem to think I'll be so distraught at the mean things they say that I'll just give up. Like Sarah Palin.

120 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:00:10am

Orthodoxy imposed on self is discipline.

Orthodoxy imposed on others is dictatorship.

Try that dichotomy out on any of the following:

Jihad
Rule of Law
Patriotism
Financial discipline
Reproductive rights
etc.

If the founding fathers were brilliant about one thing over anything else it was creating a government that was loose enough to allow people to govern themselves wisely. That is what I thought conservatism meant. I still do. Obviously I'm heretical.

121 researchok  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:01:52am

re: #119 Charles

The funny thing is that they include my Twitter username with it, so I'll be sure to see it -- as if they think it's going to damage me somehow. They seem to think I'll be so distraught at the mean things they say that I'll just give up. Like Sarah Palin.

They want you to respond, to point them out. They are in effect jihadis, looking to be heroes/martyrs.

Pointing them out dos just that, in their minds.

122 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:01:58am

re: #116 Charles

That's the nutjob who supplies Pamela Geller with crude photoshops of me as the joker, Elena Kagan as a Nazi, etc.

There's a chorus of idiot wingnut parrots on Twitter who instantly retweet any articles like this.

It's pretty clear that they're all rather angry people. We have a lot of effect on their little caged minds. It's a motley crew straight out of an insane asylum if there ever was one when you include the wingnut bloggers and the stalker sites. In this case Bigfuridiot™ links to that lunatic WristAction.

123 celticdragon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:02:14am

re: #120 DaddyG

Orthodoxy imposed on self is discipline.

Orthodoxy imposed on others is dictatorship.

Try that dichotomy out on any of the following:

Jihad
Rule of Law
Patriotism
Financial discipline
Reproductive rights
etc.

If the founding fathers were brilliant about one thing over anything else it was creating a government that was loose enough to allow people to govern themselves wisely. That is what I thought conservatism meant. I still do. Obviously I'm heretical.

You are another squishy RINO.

Bad RINO! Bad!

//

124 garhighway  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:02:25am

This may be the most unintentionally funny line ever written:

"Especially given his comments on Fox News tonight, until this is resolved, it seems impossible to trust Rove as an objective analyst"

Un-fucking-believable.

125 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:03:08am

re: #62 celticdragon

I'm sure they really don't care if you (or your professor, for that matter) endorse their choice of work.

126 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:03:12am

re: #121 researchok

They want you to respond, to point them out. They are in effect jihadis, looking to be heroes/martyrs.

Pointing them out dos just that, in their minds.


Heh. Virtual splodydopes. The fantasy jihad league.

127 researchok  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:03:30am

re: #120 DaddyG

Orthodoxy imposed on self is discipline.

Orthodoxy imposed on others is dictatorship.

Try that dichotomy out on any of the following:

Jihad
Rule of Law
Patriotism
Financial discipline
Reproductive rights
etc.

If the founding fathers were brilliant about one thing over anything else it was creating a government that was loose enough to allow people to govern themselves wisely. That is what I thought conservatism meant. I still do. Obviously I'm heretical.

At some point, there will be a self correction. It will be painful and ugly, but eventually sanity will make it's way back.

128 celticdragon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:03:30am

re: #122 Gus 802

It's pretty clear that they're all rather angry people. We have a lot of effect on their little caged minds. It's a motley crew straight out of an insane asylum if there ever was one when you include the wingnut bloggers and the stalker sites. In this case Bigfuridiot™ links to that lunatic WristAction.

...that lunatic WristAction

Ooohh!

Better not let the O'Donnell campaign hear about that!

;)

129 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:03:41am

re: #123 celticdragon

You are another squishy RINO.

Bad RINO! Bad!

//


Spank away RINOs have tough hides.

130 researchok  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:04:00am

re: #126 DaddyG

Heh. Virtual splodydopes. The fantasy jihad league.

I like that.

131 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:04:35am

re: #128 celticdragon

...that lunatic WristAction

Ooohh!

Better not let the O'Donnell campaign hear about that!

;)

Yeah. I heard that WristAction applied for the name PudWhacker but it was taken.

/

132 celticdragon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:06:25am

re: #125 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm sure they really don't care if you (or your professor, for that matter) endorse their choice of work.

Reinforcing bad cultural stereotypes that perpetuate racist views and reinforce white prerogative is something to be concerned about, imo.

Whatever you think worth endorsing is up to you.

133 engineer cat  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:06:55am

smerconish on msnbc says that last night's primary in deleware replaced a RINO with an EIPO (Electable In Primary Only)

134 What, me worry?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:08:34am

re: #2 jamesfirecat

Its never pretty when the monster turns on the evil scientist who created it.

That better be in the Top 10 today!

135 researchok  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:08:42am

If things are this bad now, I can hardly wait to see what is in store two years from now.

136 celticdragon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:09:23am

re: #135 researchok

If things are this bad now, I can hardly wait to see what is in store two years from now.

The Third Battle of Bull Run...with better weapons.

137 Kragar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:09:47am

re: #133 engineer dog

smerconish on msnbc says that last night's primary in deleware replaced a RINO with an EIPO (Electable In Primary Only)

They did what they were told to do. I hope they keep it up.

138 webevintage  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:10:39am

re: #124 garhighway

This may be the most unintentionally funny line ever written:

"Especially given his comments on Fox News tonight, until this is resolved, it seems impossible to trust Rove as an objective analyst"

Un-fucking-believable.

THE DELICIOUS SCHADENFREUDE IS DELISH!

139 celticdragon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:14:12am

re: #138 webevintage

THE DELICIOUS SCHADENFREUDE IS DELISH!

Half the calories and tastes great!

140 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:14:37am

re: #124 garhighway

This may be the most unintentionally funny line ever written:

"Especially given his comments on Fox News tonight, until this is resolved, it seems impossible to trust Rove as an objective analyst"

Un-fucking-believable.

If you read history this brings up all sorts of interesting parallels where punishment was dished out for not telling the leader what he wanted to hear, regardless of what the reality was. And it rarely ended well.

141 sliv_the_eli  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:14:41am

re: #99 celticdragon

I agree. The Dems would have to be absolute morons not to run their campaigns exactly along the lines you suggest. The only question will be whether anti-incumbent feeling is so strong that voters will vote for extremists so long as they get rid of the incumbents. If that is the case, then the mere fact the Dems have more incumbents could lead to Republican victory.

For those of us in the middle who are troubled by the choices that might be presented, it will come down to a choice of continued one-party rule -- with its absence of any real checks on extremism -- or having a Republican-controlled Congress that can at least be checked by President Obama's ability to veto any stupidity that a right wing Congress can come up with. IMHO, the split between a Republican Congress and Democrat White House -- and the check that each played on any extremist tendencies of the other -- played a large role in this country's relative prosperity during the 1990's.

142 What, me worry?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:16:26am

re: #119 Charles

The funny thing is that they include my Twitter username with it, so I'll be sure to see it -- as if they think it's going to damage me somehow. They seem to think I'll be so distraught at the mean things they say that I'll just give up. Like Sarah Palin.

My guess is they're trying to get you to fight back. To go to their blogs and start an argument with them which you've never done, nor will ever do.

They're unimportant anyway. Many were registered lizards who lost their accounts for a good reason in the first place. And yet, the keep clamoring to come back!

We hate you!
We love you!
We hate you!
We love you!

143 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:16:39am

re: #135 researchok

If things are this bad now, I can hardly wait to see what is in store two years from now.

The "Tea Party" will fade from memory and a more appealing (/sarc) "Birth of a Nation" Party will take its place...its members lovingly referring to themselves as "Birthers" until they realize that not all Americans see that as a positive moniker, at which time they'll try getting all their members to wear brown and the catchy slogan, "What can brown-shirts do for you?"

144 What, me worry?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:19:15am

re: #143 darthstar

The "Tea Party" will fade from memory and a more appealing (/sarc) "Birth of a Nation" Party will take its place...its members lovingly referring to themselves as "Birthers" until they realize that not all Americans see that as a positive moniker, at which time they'll try getting all their members to wear brown and the catchy slogan, "What can brown-shirts do for you?"

The UPS party?

145 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:19:36am

I am opposed to the statists on both ends of the political spectrum. My mistrust of the Liberals was their dependence on big government and judicial activism to push their agenda.

I once hoped for a conservative resurgence to combat what I thought was a threat to my civil liberties, national security and economic opportunity.

Instead I got offered another flavor of statism this time with racist nuts and theocratic sprinkles.

Of course the center left having the critical mass of artists and journalists came up with this great forward sounding title - Progressives!

So now the center right are faced with a terrible problem compounded by our lack of Fine Arts majors and a dependence on MBAs to do our creative thinking. We cannot just invert the Progressives label and call it our own. Regressives. No that will not work.

What to call the anti-statists who still believe government is good for the occational butt kicking like the civil rights movement and the Civil War ending slavery?

Hmmmm...

146 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:20:35am

re: #141 sliv_the_eli

I agree. The Dems would have to be absolute morons not to run their campaigns exactly along the lines you suggest. The only question will be whether anti-incumbent feeling is so strong that voters will vote for extremists so long as they get rid of the incumbents. If that is the case, then the mere fact the Dems have more incumbents could lead to Republican victory.

For those of us in the middle who are troubled by the choices that might be presented, it will come down to a choice of continued one-party rule -- with its absence of any real checks on extremism -- or having a Republican-controlled Congress that can at least be checked by President Obama's ability to veto any stupidity that a right wing Congress can come up with. IMHO, the split between a Republican Congress and Democrat White House -- and the check that each played on any extremist tendencies of the other -- played a large role in this country's relative prosperity during the 1990's.

I don't think that will work out this time around.

I have a suspicion that the operational theory the GOP is using is that by blocking everything, not cooperating, and making ideology the sole litmus test for the next two years they can then go into 2012 claiming that the Obama Administration was a total failure and therefore the GOP should be elected as the proper replacement. And that they will be successful in casting the Executive Branch as solely to blame.

The operational goal, of course, is simply to regain power. Party before country since at least 50% of the citizenry are obviously traitors at this point... (sarc)

147 sliv_the_eli  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:20:58am

re: #136 celticdragon

Reminds me of the quote from the character playing General Custer in the Night at the Museum sequel: "We're Americans. We don't think, we do." If you lop off the last two words, you would have the motto of the Republican Party these days.

148 webevintage  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:21:24am

re: #143 darthstar

The "Tea Party" will fade from memory and a more appealing (/sarc) "Birth of a Nation" Party will take its place...its members lovingly referring to themselves as "Birthers" until they realize that not all Americans see that as a positive moniker, at which time they'll try getting all their members to wear brown and the catchy slogan, "What can brown-shirts do for you?"

Doug J over on Balloon Juice has been doing a series of post calling the GOP the "New Confederate Party".
Here is one from last night:

I’m sure they will be no more extreme than they were 150 years ago.
n the 1860 Election the Confederates were against:
# Education. Ditto 2010
# Federal Spending for infrastructure. Ditto 2010
# Help for Free Labor and the working man. Ditto 2010
# Federal efforts to reign in the oligarchs of the day. Ditto 2010
# The idea that the Constitution guaranteed “personal Liberty”. Ditto 2010


[Link: www.balloon-juice.com...]

149 sliv_the_eli  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:22:08am

re: #144 marjoriemoon

NY City traffic cops. They already have the required attitude.

150 sliv_the_eli  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:26:19am

re: #146 oaktree

Why not? Seems to have worked for the Dems.

151 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 12:20:45pm

This is the funniest shit right here

152 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 12:24:37pm

re: #100 darthstar

At Gateway Pundit...

When has Rove ever been an "autonomous, disinterested analyst?" Rove is a GOP operative working for a Republican media tool. That's his fucking job. Warner Todd Huston is an idiot if he thinks otherwise.

These people really are that stupid

They're just that completely dumb, I love it

153 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 12:42:15pm

Investigate Rove because he dared to have a differing opinion of O'Donnell. Seriously Dan next time you call Obama or Obama supporters totalitarian, may want to take a look in the mirrror bud.

154 Intenzity  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:24:21pm

"Michelle Malkin has a very solid reaction..."

Sorry, every time I tried to read the article I couldn't get past that phrase without laughing so hard I had to start over.

155 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 8:33:16pm

re: #30 Charles

Is the bad craziness accelerating out of control like an unrecalled Toyota, or is it me?

I'm thinking more like a Vega...or a Pinto...or a Corvair.

WTF are these people thinking, especially the black folks? Are they thinking at all?

156 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 8:46:41pm

re: #141 sliv_the_eli

I agree. The Dems would have to be absolute morons not to run their campaigns exactly along the lines you suggest. The only question will be whether anti-incumbent feeling is so strong that voters will vote for extremists so long as they get rid of the incumbents. If that is the case, then the mere fact the Dems have more incumbents could lead to Republican victory.

For those of us in the middle who are troubled by the choices that might be presented, it will come down to a choice of continued one-party rule -- with its absence of any real checks on extremism -- or having a Republican-controlled Congress that can at least be checked by President Obama's ability to veto any stupidity that a right wing Congress can come up with. IMHO, the split between a Republican Congress and Democrat White House -- and the check that each played on any extremist tendencies of the other -- played a large role in this country's relative prosperity during the 1990's.

Don't underestimate the Democrats' ability to not go for the jugular.

157 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 8:48:33pm

re: #149 sliv_the_eli

NY City traffic cops. They already have the required attitude.

Hamilton County (Ohio) Sheriff's Department. They already have the black shirts.

158 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 8:50:37pm

re: #153 HappyWarrior

Investigate Rove because he dared to have a differing opinion of O'Donnell. Seriously Dan next time you call Obama or Obama supporters totalitarian, may want to take a look in the mirrror bud.

Rove won't care even if Fox fires him. Hell, with that on his resume, CNN or MSNBC will hire him!

Props to Rove for saying what he was thinking and not saying what Hannity et al wanted to hear.


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