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I haven’t seen the kookosphere this riled up in quite some time; I guess the wingnuts are all puffed up from their big wins in Delaware and New York, because the hate mail is pouring in today.

Here’s the stand-out email of the day, from a reader in Yonkers, New York, who’s clearly an admirer of Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, and Carl Paladino.

Re: Cuomo is like an old flat pillar its time to get rid of him.

Andrew Cuomo endorsed the Islam Mosque near Ground Zero, and he accepted money from Islam Muslims. Americans do not trust Andrew Cuomo and they will let him know their passionate feelings at the polls.

It’s Official New York State is the most corrupt Political State in the country.

Read This Article and watch all the videos about these Islam Muslims, and then tell me if you think they should have equal rights in America. All it will take for us to lose our freedom in America is 20% Islam Muslims and they will take away our freedom and they will do to America what they did to Europe.

Muslims are terrorist, it’s not a religion it’s a way of life!

[Link to batshit insane multi-colored website redacted.]

When I was done with this story I had to vomit.

Dude. I sure hope you were near a toilet.

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413 comments
1 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:08:40pm

"Old flat pillar"? What is an old flat pillar?

2 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:09:45pm

Read This Article and watch all the videos about these Islam Muslims, and then tell me if you think they should have equal rights in America. All it will take for us to lose our freedom in America is 20% Islam Muslims and they will take away our freedom and they will do to America what they did to Europe.

Riiiggghht.... In order to protect our rights, we will just take their rights away....

Bangs head a desk.

3 Kragar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:10:27pm

re: #1 SanFranciscoZionist

"Old flat pillar"? What is an old flat pillar?

Some...thing.

4 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:10:28pm

"Islam mosque" and "Islam Muslims" eh? I suppose that is to distinguish them from Baptist mosques and Mennonite Muslims.

5 engineer cat  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:10:33pm

genuine frontier gibberish is entertaining - until it gets into office

6 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:10:49pm

This loon also spammed the New York Observer with the same rant, twice.

[Link: www.observer.com...]

7 researchok  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:11:03pm

Maybe a means test for an email account isn't such a bad idea.

8 Kragar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:11:42pm

All it will take for us to lose our freedom in America is 20% Fascist Racial Supremacists and they will take away our freedom and they will do to America what they did to Europe.

9 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:11:53pm

I love how this dude talks about freedom but supports a candidate who wants to imprison welfare receipents. As for Islam being a "way of life." Gee, don't many Christians define their Christianity as being part of their lives. Oh that's right, it's different with Muslims since they can't be real Americans.

10 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:12:33pm

"Islam Muslims" - as opposed to the Swedenborgian and the Randian and the Jansenist ones.

11 Kragar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:13:10pm

re: #10 Cato the Elder

"Islam Muslims" - as opposed to the Swedenborgian and the Randian and the Jansenist ones.

The Amish Muslims are the most dangerous.

12 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:15:35pm

Random capitalization is a diagnostic.

13 engineer cat  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:15:49pm

i have some leftover punctuation he can use

14 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:17:22pm

It really is amazing how people will whine about losing freedom then at the same time urge other people not have freedom as this clown has done. I flat out don't get it.

15 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:17:49pm

Either English is not that correspondents first language or it really is time to do away with the Education Department.

16 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:17:57pm

[Link to batshit insane multi-colored website redacted.]

would you sue me if I put that on a tee shirt?

17 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:18:03pm

re: #6 Charles

This loon also spammed the New York Observer with the same rant, twice.

[Link: www.observer.com...]

My guess is that it's the same nut that runs this site [Link: thewestchesternews.com...] or someone unrelated nut that follows that site.

18 Lidane  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:18:24pm

WTF is an Islam Muslim and are they any different from a regular Muslim?

19 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:18:35pm

The stalkers are losing their silly minds today, too. Why they got to go all up in there and do me like that?

20 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:19:24pm

re: #18 Lidane

WTF is an Islam Muslim and are they any different from a regular Muslim?

In Nutso McBatshit's defense, I think he means Islamist. He's still a dumb douche though.

21 Kragar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:19:37pm

re: #15 wozzablog

Either English is not that correspondents first language or it really is time to do away with the Education Department.

What makes you think he went to a corrupt liberal funded brainwashing center known as the Public School system?
/

22 engineer cat  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:19:39pm

Islam Muslims

is this that miss america contestant who kept on talking about "usa americans"?

23 Lidane  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:19:56pm

re: #14 HappyWarrior

It really is amazing how people will whine about losing freedom then at the same time urge other people not have freedom as this clown has done. I flat out don't get it.

Welcome to the 2010 Republican Party. Would you like some Tea? We've got plenty to go around.

/I wish I was kidding.

24 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:20:17pm

re: #17 Gus 802

You should have had a visual warning for that site. Oy. My eyes are bleeding at that "layout".

25 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:20:28pm

I googled up "flat pillar" and learned some things, though not what this kook is talking about.
Flat pillar molecular microscope
Acrylic flat pillar beads (on sale too)
Flat pillar metal-cutting file

Flat pillar mail-box

26 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:20:47pm

re: #19 Charles

The stalkers are losing their silly minds today, too. Why they got to go all up in there and do me like that?

Yo cause its a matter of proper respect like that.

27 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:21:04pm

re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

All it will take for us to lose our freedom in America is 20% Fascist Racial Supremacists and they will take away our freedom and they will do to America what they did to Europe.

The far right obtains about 5% electorally in the UK. More in France, but so do the far left, so they pretty much keep each other in check.
The German system is weighted against them gaining any power.

28 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:21:56pm

From the link provided at the Observer that Charles (properly) declined to supply.

"Muslims own most of our gas stations, taxi stands, stationary stores with lotto, they are building inspectors all over New York City and they’re Inspectors for our bridges and tunnels. They work as security guards, they install central air in New York City Buildings etc... Think about bio terrorism, think about how simple it’s going to be for them to kill us. They are everywhere that they can control. Imagine if they wanted to blow up our gas stations at the same time? When these Muslims take control of our government they will violently kill us because we do not submit to their way of life. They’re motto is Islam will dominate the world! Is this what you what to happen to America? If not, then demand these people have no rights and don’t entertain their excuses. "

Man, what a screed........ They are going to kill us all, etc. etc..... There is even more of this crap, but I think this is enough to give you an idea about how deranged this loon is. hell, I don't think the harpy has gone this far, yet.

29 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:23:18pm

re: #1 SanFranciscoZionist

"Old flat pillar"? What is an old flat pillar?

Upstate for "old flat pillow".

30 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:23:29pm

re: #28 Bubblehead II

From the link provided at the Observer that Charles (properly) declined to supply.

"Muslims own most of our gas stations, taxi stands, stationary stores with lotto, they are building inspectors all over New York City and they’re Inspectors for our bridges and tunnels. They work as security guards, they install central air in New York City Buildings etc... Think about bio terrorism, think about how simple it’s going to be for them to kill us. They are everywhere that they can control. Imagine if they wanted to blow up our gas stations at the same time? When these Muslims take control of our government they will violently kill us because we do not submit to their way of life. They’re motto is Islam will dominate the world! Is this what you what to happen to America? If not, then demand these people have no rights and don’t entertain their excuses. "

Man, what a screed... They are going to kill us all, etc. etc... There is even more of this crap, but I think this is enough to give you an idea about how deranged this loon is. hell, I don't think the harpy has gone this far, yet.


Replace every word with Jew and you've got something out of Streicher's Der Strummer. I hate violating Godwin, really I do but the way this guy talks about Muslims is very Nazi on Jew like.

31 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:23:35pm

OT: Bflat has the fungus again (Cryptococcus) in his nasal passage...another month or two of Diflucan should take care of it. Here he is in the car waiting to go home. Such a good cat...mellows out if I play the Grateful Dead when I'm driving.

32 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:24:22pm

Oh. Charles, go ahead and delete #17 if you wish.

33 Lidane  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:24:22pm

re: #28 Bubblehead II

" Is this what you what to happen to America? If not, then demand these people have no rights and don’t entertain their excuses. "

Sounds like something that Michelle Malkin would spew, given that she's been pushing for and justifying internment camps for years.

34 Digital Display  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:24:59pm

re: #19 Charles

The stalkers are losing their silly minds today, too. Why they got to go all up in there and do me like that?

For the last couple of years the stalkers have acted in every vile way known to the Internet..Every insult...Every 7th grade method to hurt your feelings..
Yet..It doesn't bother you in the least. Such are the cries of their wailings..
Really..It's funnier than shit...
Good Man Mr.J.

35 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:25:21pm

The more and more I watch the Right go out of their little gourds, the less and less I really wanna see Election Day. Not because I expect the sort of bloodbath they all assure me is coming (I don't), but because I worry what they're gonna do if they wake up the day after and find that they didn't take Congress back, they don't have the sort of majorities they need to ram through their "Commonsense Constitution" agenda, and that Tea Party candidates left and right dropped like flies.

36 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:25:23pm

I sense some sexual tension in that email.

Charles - have you considered that he might be inviting you to his dorm room?

37 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:25:37pm

re: #32 Gus 802

Oh. Charles, go ahead and delete #17 if you wish.

We do not speak of #17.

38 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:25:50pm

re: #36 karmic_inquisitor

I sense some sexual tension in that email.

Charles - have you considered that he might be inviting you to his dorm orgy room?


ftfy

39 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:26:36pm

re: #37 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

We do not speak of #17.

the forbidden number?

40 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:26:48pm

re: #33 Lidane

Sounds like something that Michelle Malkin would spew, given that she's been pushing for and justifying internment camps for years.

THat's actually how I first learned about her. She was defending/apologizing for interning Japanese Americans during WWII. Nevermind the fact that one of if not the most decorated units in the war was comprised of Japanese Americans or the fact it was under Reagan or H.W Bush that we apologized for that miscarriage of justice. I'd actually have a lot of respect for Malkin if she used it as a criticism of FDR's administration because it's one of mine of FDR's.

41 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:27:07pm

re: #37 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

We do not speak of #17.

It links to the crazy multi-colored website of Barbara Ricci! Who ever the heck that is.

What is it about crazy people and color design?

42 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:27:23pm

re: #39 brookly red

the forbidden number?

To speak of it is heresy!

/

43 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:28:00pm

re: #37 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

We do not speak of #17.

I thought it was number 7.

44 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:28:21pm

re: #35 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The more and more I watch the Right go out of their little gourds, the less and less I really wanna see Election Day. Not because I expect the sort of bloodbath they all assure me is coming (I don't), but because I worry what they're gonna do if they wake up the day after and find that they didn't take Congress back, they don't have the sort of majorities they need to ram through their "Commonsense Constitution" agenda, and that Tea Party candidates left and right dropped like flies.

The wingnuts I know are already making dark noises about election fraud, ACORN's demise not withstanding.

(How is it I know so many wingnuts? It's simple, unless you are a hermit residing in a cave on the fringes of Yellowhouse Canyon, you cannot live in Lubbock without knowing wingnuts.)

45 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:28:41pm

Hey! That's a great website! She has a lot of important things to say. I'll contact a couple of GOP consultants and see if we can't run her as a Tea Party/GOP candidate.

//

46 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:28:49pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

Replace every word with Jew and you've got something out of Streicher's Der Strummer. I hate violating Godwin, really I do but the way this guy talks about Muslims is very Nazi on Jew like.

"Der Strummer"? What you got against German guitarists?

47 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:28:50pm

One thing I often hear repeated by the press regarding the Tea Partiers is that they are allegedly "well-educated". Granted, I know lots of college-educated dumbshits, but I have an exceptionally hard time believing that the Tea Party activists are, on the whole, anything resembling "well-educated".

Does anyone have any idea where this data comes from?

Even NPR called Christine O'Donnell "sharp". Either their definition of "sharp" differs substantially from mine, or I'm missing an awful lot of information.

From their own damn story:

In 2008, her house fell into foreclosure and was scheduled for auction, until a friend and campaign worker bought it from her. She was then audited by the IRS. In an interview with NPR in August, she suggested that the audit was politically motivated.

"I ran against Joe Biden and I was audited," she said. "My mother's business was audited, and many other members of my family were audited." Asked why she thought she was audited, she said, "Who knows? It could be thug politics. It could be intimidation tactics. Either way, it didn't stop me."

At the end of the audit, she says, the IRS slapped a tax lien on the house, which had already been sold.

"See, that's the other thing ... what makes it really funny," she said. "Because it's an $11,000 tax lien on a home that I sold in 2008, so I didn’t even own the home when they put a tax lien on it."

O'Donnell calls the lien a computer error. She says it's been cleared up, but it's still on her credit report. She earns very little money now and pays half of her rent with campaign donations. She says that's justified because she's running her campaign out of her house.

And it recently came to light that her alma mater, Fairleigh Dickinson University, didn't issue her a degree in 1993 because she still owed it money.

All of this, O'Donnell says, is actually good for her: It shows that she's not a millionaire.

Whisky Tango Foxtrot, over. THAT IS NOT EVIDENCE OF "SHARPNESS".

48 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:29:14pm

re: #43 Bubblehead II

I thought it was number 7.

That's what you're supposed to think.

49 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:29:15pm

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The Amish Muslims are the most dangerous.

What about.... GASP the Atheistic Muslims?

50 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:29:44pm

Catch a look at Palin's latest tweet before her handlers go correct her usage regarding the word "reign" vs. "rein"

[Link: twitter.com...]

51 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:29:57pm

re: #46 Cato the Elder

"Der Strummer"? What you got against German guitarists?

Der Sturmer, thanks. Sorry should have googled check that first.

52 elizajane  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:30:02pm

re: #6 Charles

This loon also spammed the New York Observer with the same rant, twice.

[Link: www.observer.com...]

When you've taken the time to assemble all your varied paranoia, when you've even used your dictionary function and all that hard stuff, obviously you want to post your masterpiece as often as possible. Check on Politico and see if he's hit Ben Smith yet.

53 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:30:19pm

re: #42 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

To speak of it is heresy!

/

but she lives on the floor above 16 yet below 18... gasp, might she be a witch?

54 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:32:14pm

re: #1 SanFranciscoZionist

"Old flat pillar"? What is an old flat pillar?

Maybe he meant "pillow." I really hate old flat pillows.

55 Digital Display  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:32:33pm

re: #46 Cato the Elder

"Der Strummer"? What you got against German guitarists?

The Scorpions!
/Hi Cato

56 elizajane  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:32:43pm

re: #47 negativ

One thing I often hear repeated by the press regarding the Tea Partiers is that they are allegedly "well-educated". Granted, I know lots of college-educated dumbshits, but I have an exceptionally hard time believing that the Tea Party activists are, on the whole, anything resembling "well-educated".

Does anyone have any idea where this data comes from?

Even NPR called Christine O'Donnell "sharp". Either their definition of "sharp" differs substantially from mine, or I'm missing an awful lot of information.

From their own damn story:

Whisky Tango Foxtrot, over. THAT IS NOT EVIDENCE OF "SHARPNESS".

Perhaps they admire her stalwart refusal to pay her college tuition until she actually had a use for the degree, ie, somebody was going to fact-check her claim to have one.

57 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:34:39pm

This one is seriously cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.

58 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:35:17pm

Yes...MSNBC actually pixillated a part of this float during the "oddball" segment of Keith's show tonight.

Image: 1235842204.jpg

59 palomino  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:35:27pm

"Islam Muslims"? Is that verbal formulation kind of like "U.S. Americans"? The commenter must have been studying at South Carolina Beauty Pageant School.

So we're in big trouble when the Muslim population reaches 20%, huh? Well, since they are currently at 1.5%, we'll have a lot to worry about in the 24th century.

60 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:35:29pm

re: #56 elizajane

Perhaps they admire her stalwart refusal to pay her college tuition until she actually had a use for the degree,

Damn! why didn't I think of that?

61 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:36:01pm

re: #44 Shiplord Kirel

The wingnuts I know are already making dark noises about election fraud, ACORN's demise not withstanding.

(How is it I know so many wingnuts? It's simple, unless you are a hermit residing in a cave on the fringes of Yellowhouse Canyon, you cannot live in Lubbock without knowing wingnuts.)

When the far-Left made similar noises and grumblings, I just laughed it off. What were they gonna do? Refuse to shower? Threaten to wear even more patchouli oil? Have a drum circle outside my window at night?

But when I hear the far-Right making similar noises and grumblings, I can't help but notice they're accompanied by the scents of gun oil and gun powder. With the way they're working themselves into a frenzy, expecting Election Day to be the icing on the cake, I worry that anything less than total victory is gonna spawn more than a little violence.

62 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:36:38pm

As mentioned at the end of the prior thread, voteview has an ongoing study on voting behavior of all elected US officials for the last 217 years.

The Congress has not been as partisan as it is today since reconstruction.

Also, both parties have spent the last 20 years eliminating dissenters from their ranks.

The Tea Party contention that Republicans aren't partisan enough is utterly and provably false. Also, when you look at the rankings, there are no Republicans mixed in with Democrats. No crossover whatsoever. No RINOs and no DINOs.

63 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:36:40pm

re: #53 brookly red

but she lives on the floor above 16 yet below 18... gasp, might she be a witch?

Let's weigh her against a duck and find out.

/

64 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:37:15pm

re: #48 Decatur Deb

So it seems. From the now defunct LGF Dictionary (Google Cache)

Comment #17 - Something mysterious and forbidden; a secret you're not supposed to know. Derives from an incident on a thread (please email me the link if you know which thread) in which Charles himself made a comment (originally #17 on the thread) that was so over-the-top that he not only immediately deleted it, but he expunged any trace of it -- all subsequent comments moved down a notch and were renumbered. No one seems to remember what comment #17 said, and when later asked, Charles famously remarked, "Do not mention Comment #17." Eventually that remark become one of LGF's rotating titles and part of legend.

65 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:37:26pm

re: #57 Gus 802

This one is seriously cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.

Jeez. Beauty Queens Gone Mad.

66 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:37:39pm

re: #59 palomino

"Islam Muslims"? Is that verbal formulation kind of like "U.S. Americans"? The commenter must have been studying at South Carolina Beauty Pageant School.

So we're in big trouble when the Muslim population reaches 20%, huh? Well, since they are currently at 1.5%, we'll have a lot to worry about in the 24th century.

Some GOP rep was spouting off a couple of years ago about how the election of Keith Ellison saw the inevitable transfer of power to Muslims en bloc............Jon Stewart did the math. 2 muslim representatives have been elected in 200+ years........ at that rate surely tomorrow we shall be........(still at 2)

67 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:39:08pm

re: #65 Decatur Deb

Jeez. Beauty Queens Gone Mad.

Yeah. It's like something you'd read painted on 4 x 8 plywood panels at the side of the road at some crazy guy's house.

68 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:39:35pm

re: #66 wozzablog

Some GOP rep was spouting off a couple of years ago about how the election of Keith Ellison saw the inevitable transfer of power to Muslims en bloc...Jon Stewart did the math. 2 muslim representatives have been elected in 200+ years... at that rate surely tomorrow we shall be...(still at 2)


Oh Virgil Goode. Seriously the paranoia about Muslim immigrants is hilarious. Equally so is the paranoia about Hispanic immigrants.

69 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:39:41pm

"Islam Muslims"

Is that like "Christian Christians?"

70 Digital Display  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:39:56pm

T minus 47 hours until the Moving truck pulls up..I'm in that stress mode..As many times I have moved there is that stress period.. You all know this...
What is really going to suck this time?
I think the worst move was coming back to the Mainland from 3 years at Pearl Harbor..I could write a book about that crap...

71 fantasmaguero  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:40:04pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

In Nutso McBatshit's defense, I think he means Islamist. He's still a dumb douche though.

LMAO! "Nutso McBatshit" - awesome.

72 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:40:06pm

re: #65 Decatur Deb

Jeezus Saves Beauty Queens Gone Mad.

fify

73 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:40:41pm

re: #19 Charles

The stalkers are losing their silly minds today, too. Why they got to go all up in there and do me like that?

The fan club is braiding each others' hair and gossiping about how meanie mean Charles is

74 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:40:55pm

re: #63 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Let's weigh her against a duck and find out.

/

fine, you go and tell her yes this duck does make you look fat...

I'll be in the lobby with a box of bandaids when you get downstairs...

75 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:41:14pm

re: #68 HappyWarrior

Oh Virgil Goode. Seriously the paranoia about Muslim immigrants is hilarious. Equally so is the paranoia about Hispanic immigrants.

And Ellison wasn't even an immigrant ;p

76 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:43:03pm

re: #70 HoosierHoops

T minus 47 hours until the Moving truck pulls up..I'm in that stress mode..As many times I have moved there is that stress period.. You all know this...
What is really going to suck this time?
I think the worst move was coming back to the Mainland from 3 years at Pearl Harbor..I could write a book about that crap...

make sure they sprayed the truck for bed bugs....

77 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:43:04pm

re: #74 brookly red

fine, you go and tell her yes this duck does make you look fat...

I'll be in the lobby with a box of bandaids when you get downstairs...

Wait, that wasn't part of the deal!

/

78 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:44:14pm

re: #19 Charles

The stalkers are losing their silly minds today, too. Why they got to go all up in there and do me like that?

You live in their heads, that's why. They feel the wind at their backs. I hope it keeps blowing and carries them right off the political cliff.

79 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:44:29pm

re: #77 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Wait, that wasn't part of the deal!

/

pleased to meet you...

80 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:44:47pm

re: #73 WindUpBird

The fan club is braiding each others' hair and gossiping about how meanie mean Charles is

Nice visual.

81 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:45:50pm

re: #75 wozzablog

And Ellison wasn't even an immigrant ;p

Ha, yep. And neither is the other Muslim in Congress. Honestly, I wouldn't complain if we got more Muslim immigrants, anything for more kabob places haha.

82 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:45:58pm

I shall return.

83 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:46:17pm

re: #58 darthstar

U.S. Americans are such goddam prudes.

84 calochortus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:46:40pm

re: #47 negativ

Perhaps NPR meant O'Donnell is "sharp" in the sense of card sharp Or that she is harsh, or pointy? There are many meanings.

85 Amory Blaine  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:47:00pm

re: #19 Charles

do me like that?

Youtube Video
86 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:49:35pm

Republicans voted for this person!

Comedian Eddie Izzard pressed her on just how far she would take her anti-lying beliefs. Izzard asked O'Donnell whether or not she would lie to Nazis who showed up at her door during WWII and demanded to know if she were hiding any Jewish people in her house. O'Donnell refused to even entertain the notion of concealing the truth from Nazis in that scenario because "you never have to practice deception":

O'DONNELL: A lie, whether it be a lie or an exaggeration, is disrespect to whoever you're exaggerating or lying to, because it's not respecting reality.


MAHER: Quite the opposite, it can be respect.

IZZARD: What if someone comes to you in the middle of the Second World War and says, 'do you have any Jewish people in your house?' and you do have them. That would be a lie. That would be disrespectful to Hitler.

O'DONNELL: I believe if I were in that situation, God would provide a way to do the right thing righteously. I believe that!
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MAHER: God is not there. Hitler's there and you're there.

O'DONNELL: You never have to practice deception. God always provides a way out.


There are no words, only LOL

LOL is not enough

87 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:50:10pm

re: #84 calochortus

Perhaps NPR meant O'Donnell is "sharp" in the sense of card sharp Or that she is harsh, or pointy? There are many meanings.

Well, I'd say she's about as sharp as a bowling ball.

88 Digital Display  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:50:38pm

re: #76 brookly red

make sure they sprayed the truck for bed bugs...

LOL
Who knows what will happen soon...Moving is an adventure that nobody wants to take..I'm embracing this next chapter in my life..
You know what they say..
A rut is nothing more than a grave with both ends kicked out...

89 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:51:14pm

re: #86 WindUpBird

Republicans voted for this person!


There are no words, only LOL

LOL is not enough

Somebody should ask her if she masturbates.

90 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:51:52pm

re: #88 HoosierHoops

LOL
Who knows what will happen soon...Moving is an adventure that nobody wants to take..I'm embracing this next chapter in my life..
You know what they say..
A rut is nothing more than a grave with both ends kicked out...

I am serious, moving trucks are bedbug central...

91 Amory Blaine  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:52:11pm

re: #89 Charles

Inquiring minds want to know.

92 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:52:41pm

re: #86 WindUpBird

Republicans voted for this person!


There are no words, only LOL

LOL is not enough

Only [Facepalm] suffices.

93 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:52:43pm

re: #89 Charles

Somebody should ask her if she masturbates.

She's facing 6 weeks of truth-or-dare.

94 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:53:06pm

re: #89 Charles

Somebody should ask her if she masturbates.

While attached to a polygraph.

95 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:53:43pm

re: #41 Gus 802

It links to the crazy multi-colored website of Barbara Ricci! Who ever the heck that is.

What is it about crazy people and color design?

The gold standard:
[Link: www.timecube.com...]

This has semi-recently been redesigned. It used to be much more Time Cube-ish, but the crazy is still in the text.
[Link: www.av1611.org...]

Before there was the Internet, however, a truly magnificent kook (or, to be politically correct, "differently-sane person") named Francis E. Dec used to distribute his hand-written and typed volumes the old-fashioned way. I know that if he were around today, his website would be a giant wall of text in 19 different font sizes, using 256 different colors, and would have at least 5 animated and/or flashing gifs as a background.

There's another person who creates equally insane content, but uses the more up-to-date medium of video rather than old-style plain text HTML. He's the magnificent Perry Logan, and he's either a genuinely insane crackpot Democrat, or he's a crackpot Democrat who is also the world's most talented performance artist. Either way, I usually find his stuff quite entertaining.

Examples:

Barack Obama is a Neo-con

Youtube Video

Alex Jones is a Bucket of Feces

Youtube Video
96 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:53:54pm

re: #94 wozzablog

While attached to a polygraph.

While hooked up to a Taser hooked up to the lie detector.

97 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:54:04pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

Well, I'd say she's about as sharp as a bowling ball.

Bowling Balls don't have to be sharp in order to be dangerous.

98 compound idaho  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:54:37pm

re: #89 Charles

Somebody should ask her if she masturbates.

The power to regulate masturbation is clearly one of those powers not delegated to the federal government therefore is reserved to the States or to the people unless you are paying for it. In that case it could be covered under the commerce clause. However; in that case it is more commonly referred to as a hand ..... never mind.

99 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:55:40pm

re: #98 compound idaho

The power to regulate masturbation is clearly one of those powers not delegated to the federal government therefore is reserved to the States or to the people unless you are paying for it. In that case it could be covered under the commerce clause. However; in that case it is more commonly referred to as a hand ... never mind.

LMAO!

100 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:55:59pm

re: #94 wozzablog

re: #96 talon_262

wow, the same party of tolerance that was against waterboarding huh?

101 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:56:13pm

re: #97 Bubblehead II

Bowling Balls don't have to be sharp in order to be dangerous.

Where's Lebowski?

102 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:56:15pm

re: #98 compound idaho

The power to regulate masturbation is clearly one of those powers not delegated to the federal government therefore is reserved to the States or to the people unless you are paying for it. In that case it could be covered under the commerce clause. However; in that case it is more commonly referred to as a hand ... never mind.

I thought it would have been under contract law - the importance of handshakes and all that.

103 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:56:23pm

re: #31 darthstar

Such a good cat...mellows out if I play the Grateful Dead when I'm driving.

Your confusing going comatose with being mellow.

104 engineer cat  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:56:51pm

re: #98 compound idaho

The power to regulate masturbation is clearly one of those powers not delegated to the federal government therefore is reserved to the States or to the people unless you are paying for it. In that case it could be covered under the commerce clause. However; in that case it is more commonly referred to as a hand ... never mind.

didn't the famous american jurist Learned Hand write an opinion on the matter?

105 calochortus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:56:59pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

I don't know, it seems to me her financial history has much in common with a 'sharper' a "worthless and impecunious person who earns a precarious living sponging on others..." according to the OED.

106 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:57:29pm

re: #100 brookly red

re: #96 talon_262

wow, the same party of tolerance that was against waterboarding huh?

Being hoist by ones own petard has never been a partisan thing. And waterboarding - really - thats what your going with as snark?

107 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:57:36pm

re: #103 Jeff In Ohio

Your confusing going comatose with being mellow.

look he gets 6 miles per joint... the cat was just fine.

108 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:58:12pm

everything would be fixed in these people's lives if they just moved to a decent-sized urban area and went outside

109 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:58:49pm

God's main method of providing a way out of "practicing deception" is not requiring you to be a politician.

Guess she didn't hear him this time.

110 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:59:23pm

re: #106 wozzablog

Being hoist by ones own petard has never been a partisan thing. And waterboarding - really - thats what your going with as snark?

lie detectors with tasers... my my my, yes you guys own that one.

111 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 5:59:51pm

And since the Stalkers are bring up the Gulla culture of Georgia, and defending Neo-Confederates, you know its time for me to post this:

Youtube Video
112 Digital Display  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:00:11pm

re: #90 brookly red

I am serious, moving trucks are bedbug central...

Thanks...Everything gets boxed and wrapped in plastic...Jeez the cockroaches in Hawaii.. That is the deep dark secret of the Islands..It is paradise with Cockroaches bigger than pets...Man they freaked me out

113 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:01:02pm

re: #112 HoosierHoops

Thanks...Everything gets boxed and wrapped in plastic...Jeez the cockroaches in Hawaii.. That is the deep dark secret of the Islands..It is paradise with Cockroaches bigger than pets...Man they freaked me out

do they fly?

114 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:01:56pm

jesus, Rove just fucking kicks O'Connell half to death in this clip, holy shit

Youtube Video
115 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:02:14pm

re: #114 WindUpBird

O'Donnell, drrrr

116 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:03:20pm

re: #114 WindUpBird

jesus, Rove just fucking kicks O'Connell half to death in this clip, holy shit


[Video]

He also rips Hannity a new asshole in the process, by making him look like an idiot for trying to defend her.

117 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:03:36pm

re: #101 Decatur Deb

Where's Lebowski?

You lost me, but a quick Google search of the name came up with this.

Jeff Bridges stars as Jeff Lebowski, an unemployed Los Angeles slacker and avid bowler,

Am I close?

118 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:03:42pm

New from David Frum:

How I Joined the Ruling Class

119 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:04:03pm

re: #111 Dark_Falcon

all federals are terrorist

120 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:04:41pm

re: #117 Bubblehead II

You lost me, but a quick Google search of the name came up with this.

Jeff Bridges stars as Jeff Lebowski, an unemployed Los Angeles slacker and avid bowler,

Am I close?

you are

121 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:04:50pm

re: #117 Bubblehead II

Dead on--good bowling movie.

122 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:04:50pm

re: #110 brookly red

lie detectors with tasers... my my my, yes you guys own that one.

mmmm-hmmmmm.

Because a taser set up to a lie detector to quiz someone about masturbating is an everyday concern for GOP politicians in a way that it isn't for - wait, what ?

123 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:05:14pm

Heh...Maddow has a clip of O'Donnell speaking out against women in the military as being "detrimental"...that's going to leave a mark.

124 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:05:30pm

this graph shows the slide into partisanship started in 1987 for the Senate. Both sides participated.

Image: Senate_Polar_Moderates_46-111.jpg

Interestingly, both parties are at about the same level - about 10% of members considered moderate (willing to work with the other side).

125 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:05:48pm

re: #122 wozzablog

mmm-hmmm.

Because a taser set up to a lie detector to quiz someone about masturbating is an everyday concern for GOP politicians in a way that it isn't for - wait, what ?

hows about you just admit you made an ooops and be done with it?

126 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:06:31pm

re: #86 WindUpBird

Republicans voted for this person!


There are no words, only LOL

O'DONNELL: You never have to practice deception. God always provides a way out.

LOL is not enough


Apparently, God's way out for Sophie Scholl was a show-trial conducted by a particularly infamous Nazi boot-lick, followed by a date with the guillotine at a prison in Munich.

127 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:06:39pm

re: #116 darthstar

He also rips Hannity a new asshole in the process, by making him look like an idiot for trying to defend her.

I'm quite pleased with Karl Rove's actions on this one. He gave an honest political analysis of the primary and was promptly attacked for not throwing red meat to the Tea Party base. His response is the proper one: Stand by the truth and remind the attackers that O'Donnell is nuts.

Rove, you magnificent bastard!

128 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:06:47pm

re: #116 darthstar

He also rips Hannity a new asshole in the process, by making him look like an idiot for trying to defend her.

Better and better.

Brookly - care to weigh in on whether a new asshole was actually ripped or whether that its offensive to assholes?........

129 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:07:08pm

re: #123 darthstar

Heh...Maddow has a clip of O'Donnell speaking out against women in the military as being "detrimental"...that's going to leave a mark.

The O'Donnell mine is deep with many shafts filled with bountiful treasure.

It will be mined.

She will object.

It will all be very entertaining.

130 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:07:21pm

re: #121 Decatur Deb

Dead on--good bowling movie.

More than a bowling movie. I prefer to refer to it as "The Passion of the Dude."

131 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:08:06pm

Christine O'Donnell is the most amazingly crazed GOP politician I've seen since the last amazingly crazed GOP politician.

132 Digital Display  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:08:08pm

re: #113 brookly red

do they fly?

They are huge! I'm pretty sure cockroaches in Hawaii take Roids

133 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:08:11pm

re: #126 negativ

Hard to imagine a life better-lived.

134 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:08:14pm

re: #123 darthstar

Heh...Maddow has a clip of O'Donnell speaking out against women in the military as being "detrimental"...that's going to leave a mark.

I wonder how Delaware's servicewomen will feel knowing that a candidate thinks their service is "detrimental." I never understood the argument against certain groups like women or gays serving in the military. There are plenty of women and gays that would make much better soldiers than I ever would.

135 Kragar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:08:26pm

re: #116 darthstar

He also rips Hannity a new asshole in the process, by making him look like an idiot for trying to defend her.

Making Hannity appear like an idiot is not that difficult

136 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:08:43pm

re: #125 brookly red

hows about you just admit you made an ooops and be done with it?

for my original comment?

pffft.

and really - you think i want GOP pols tasered?

nice world you live in. i don't think the rental is worth it.

137 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:09:46pm

re: #128 wozzablog

Better and better.

Brookly - care to weigh in on whether a new asshole was actually ripped or whether that its offensive to assholes?...

no I would rather hear you explain how it's OK to hook a woman up to a lie detector with a taser... I am sure you can do that.

138 tnguitarist  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:11:08pm

re: #132 HoosierHoops

They are huge! I'm pretty sure cockroaches in Hawaii take Roids

They get em from Dog (cue Ozzy).

139 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:11:11pm

Biden on Maddow: "I think if every Republican in Delaware voted, Castle would have won 150,000 to 30,000.[laughs]"

In other words...she got every vote she's going to get.

140 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:11:12pm

re: #136 wozzablog

re: #137 brookly red

Would you two please not squabble? I'd rather Charles not have to hand out timeouts.

141 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:11:44pm

re: #135 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Making Hannity appear like an idiot is not that difficult

Yep...just let him speak, or not speak...either way.

142 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:11:46pm

re: #136 wozzablog

for my original comment?

pffft.

and really - you think i want GOP pols tasered?

nice world you live in. i don't think the rental is worth it.

then just say you didn't mean it... with out any snarky conditions.

143 tnguitarist  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:11:49pm

re: #137 brookly red

no I would rather hear you explain how it's OK to hook a woman up to a lie detector with a taser... I am sure you can do that.

Hyperbole----look it up.

144 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:12:26pm

Let's play "who said that?"

First up: "We took the Bible and prayer out of public schools. Now we're having weekly shootings. We had the 60s sexual revolution, and now people are dying of AIDS."

145 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:12:43pm

re: #143 tnguitarist

Hyperbole---look it up.

Every time I look up my hyperbole I end up playing with it.

146 tnguitarist  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:13:59pm

re: #145 darthstar

Every time I look up my hyperbole I end up playing with it.

Keep it on the down-low. You'll have to answer for that.

147 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:14:01pm

re: #145 darthstar

Every time I look up my hyperbole I end up playing with it.

I was sure you were going to say smoking it :)

148 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:14:09pm

re: #144 karmic_inquisitor

Answer here:

Youtube Video
149 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:14:31pm

re: #100 brookly red

re: #96 talon_262

wow, the same party of tolerance that was against waterboarding huh?

Oh, come off the martyrdom pitch for a damn minute...what I said was meant as a joke and I left the damn sarc tag off (which I didn't think I needed, since it was so over-the-top).

BTW, if you mean "party of tolerence" as code for "Democrat", you'd be wrong in my case.

/lighten up, Francis

150 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:15:02pm

re: #123 darthstar

Heh...Maddow has a clip of O'Donnell speaking out against women in the military as being "detrimental"...that's going to leave a mark.

Link? My Google Fu is failing me

151 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:15:05pm

re: #146 tnguitarist

Keep it on the down-low. You'll have to answer for that.

Gubmint Wank Panels.

152 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:15:16pm

re: #137 brookly red

no I would rather hear you explain how it's OK to hook a woman up to a lie detector with a taser... I am sure you can do that.


Tazering innocent people is wrong.

(wow, that was sooooo hard for me to say, i'm a quivering wreck having made that declaration)

but, she wouldn't have anything to worry about if she always told the truth as she claimed....sooo, your concern is noted, btw, nice of you to also call out DF on the upding...... oh, wait, silly me.

153 zora  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:15:28pm

re: #137 brookly red

no I would rather hear you explain how it's OK to hook a woman up to a lie detector with a taser... I am sure you can do that.

don't worry. she wouldn't be harmed. she wouldn't even lie to save a jew from a nazi.

154 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:16:24pm

I'm handing myself a short time out.

Laters peeps.

155 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:16:25pm

re: #147 brookly red

I was sure you were going to say smoking it :)

Not that I couldn't, but...

156 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:16:52pm

re: #149 talon_262

Oh, come off the martyrdom pitch for a damn minute...what I said was meant as a joke and I left the damn sarc tag off (which I didn't think I needed, since it was so over-the-top).

BTW, if you mean "party of tolerence" as code for "Democrat", you'd be wrong in my case.

/lighten up, Francis

well OK I can deal with that, I sarc often my self...

157 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:16:54pm

re: #143 tnguitarist

Hyperbole---look it up.

Thank you...somebody got it ;-P

158 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:17:02pm

re: #154 wozzablog

I'm handing myself a short time out.

Laters peeps.

All this talk about O'Donnell, I read that as I'm HANDLING myself...heh.

159 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:17:04pm

re: #148 karmic_inquisitor

Answer here:

[Video]

Bill Maher has to be doing the Happy Dance over her winning the primary; The Dems get to keep a Senate seat that was in danger, and he gets to make fun of O'Donnell the Crazy Wingnut again. Hell, he may even have her on his HBO show. She's the personification of every type of nuttiness found in the Tea Party.

160 tnguitarist  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:17:23pm

re: #151 Decatur Deb

Gubmint Wank Panels.

I'm not just a member, I'm the president.

161 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:17:30pm

who said this?

"God may choose to heal someone from cancer, yet that person still has a great deal of medical bills. The outstanding bills do not determine whether or not the patient has been healed by God."

162 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:18:05pm

re: #152 wozzablog

Tazering innocent people is wrong.

(wow, that was sooo hard for me to say, i'm a quivering wreck having made that declaration)

but, she wouldn't have anything to worry about if she always told the truth as she claimed...sooo, your concern is noted, btw, nice of you to also call out DF on the upding... oh, wait, silly me.

get over your self... a simple ooops would do.

163 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:18:08pm

re: #153 zora

don't worry. she wouldn't be harmed. she wouldn't even lie to save a Jew from a nazi.

which is kind of what someone managed to navigate the conversation away from - whoever it was escapes me, but hey, obviously saving a Jew from the Nazis is less important than concern troll rhetoric.

164 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:18:29pm

re: #150 Bubblehead II

Link? My Google Fu is failing me

I'm sure it's out there...I just saw it on TV.

165 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:18:52pm

re: #152 wozzablog

Tazering innocent people is wrong.

(wow, that was sooo hard for me to say, i'm a quivering wreck having made that declaration)

but, she wouldn't have anything to worry about if she always told the truth as she claimed...sooo, your concern is noted, btw, nice of you to also call out DF on the upding... oh, wait, silly me.

Did I do something wrong?

166 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:20:16pm

Oh Nos!!11!!

The muslums are coming. The muslums are coming.

Scrreeech!!11!

167 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:20:53pm

re: #165 Dark_Falcon

Did I do something wrong?

wrong place at the wrong time... not to worry it's all good.

168 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:20:54pm

re: #165 Dark_Falcon

Did I do something wrong?

No.

You updinged the comment i was called out for updinging without being called out yourself.

169 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:21:19pm

re: #161 karmic_inquisitor

answer here:

Liveleak Video

That essay goes Godwin in the first paragraph.

170 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:22:24pm

re: #114 WindUpBird

jesus, Rove just fucking kicks O'Connell half to death in this clip, holy shit

For someone who wouldn't lie to a Nazi to save a Jew, she certainly has a flexible relationship to the truth.

171 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:22:34pm

re: #168 wozzablog

No.

You updinged the comment i was called out for updinging without being called out yourself.

Calling out up or down dinging seems a bit odd to me. Extending the fight, I guess.

172 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:23:33pm

re: #131 Charles

Christine O'Donnell is the most amazingly crazed GOP politician I've seen since the last amazingly crazed GOP politician.

She can't be worse than Michele Bachmann can she?

173 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:24:14pm

re: #150 Bubblehead II

Link? My Google Fu is failing me

Then again.........

Del. Tea Party Senate Candidate O’Donnell Opposes Women in Military

and this.

Christine O'Donnell in 1995: Women In Military Colleges Damage National Security

You can watch the whole thing here (relevant clip begins at 16:44).

174 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:24:16pm

re: #161 karmic_inquisitor

who said this?

"God may choose to heal someone from cancer, yet that person still has a great deal of medical bills. The outstanding bills do not determine whether or not the patient has been healed by God."

The newest crazy GOP lady!

175 Mocking Jay  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:25:27pm

This guy was from my city? Oy.

176 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:25:28pm

re: #172 b_sharp

She can't be worse than Michele Bachmann can she?

I've never slept with Michele Bachmann, but I suspect they're comparable.

177 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:25:38pm

re: #135 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Making Hannity appear like an idiot is not that difficult

Do you mind if I make a small change to that?

No?

Thanks.

Showing Hannity for the idiot he is, is not that difficult.

178 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:26:06pm

re: #164 darthstar

I'm sure it's out there...I just saw it on TV.

I think I found it. Subject to further verification.

179 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:26:16pm

re: #176 darthstar

I've never slept with Michele Bachmann, but I suspect they're comparable.

your still not over the dorm thing huh?

180 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:26:19pm

re: #174 Stanley Sea

The newestThis week's crazy GOP lady!

181 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:26:44pm

re: #179 brookly red

your still not over the dorm thing huh?

What can I say? I like fucking.

182 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:26:54pm

re: #132 HoosierHoops

They are huge! I'm pretty sure cockroaches in Hawaii take Roids

Are they this huge?

183 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:27:27pm

re: #170 Cato the Elder

For someone who wouldn't lie to a Nazi to save a Jew, she certainly has a flexible relationship to the truth.

I read several Delaware blogs today. She filed suit against an employer. One of her claims was she wasn't allowed to attend grad school. Problem is, she just received her Bachelor's 2 weeks ago and was never enrolled in Yale grad school (or some other Ivy - I'm not going to look it up again, it's out there)

She's another pants on fire candidate, and apparently only Rove cares.

184 zora  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:28:09pm

re: #181 darthstar

What can I say? I like fucking.

and i bet your palms are hairy.

185 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:28:26pm

re: #183 Stanley Sea

She's a fraud and a liar, but hey, it's the Republican party...the sky's the limit if those are your only qualifications.

186 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:28:29pm

re: #153 zora

don't worry. she wouldn't be harmed. she wouldn't even lie to save a jew from a nazi.

Well yeah but, they're just Jooz. They killed Urr Lrrd.

187 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:28:32pm

re: #182 Alouette

Are they this huge?

that is big enough that you have to pick up after it when you walk it...

188 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:28:55pm

re: #184 zora

and i bet your palms are hairy.

I wish...that would be kind of cool.

189 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:29:03pm

Who said this:

"Our enemies can deal a blow to us any time they wish. They did not wait for permission to do this. They do not deal a blow with prior notice. They do not take action because they can't. "

190 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:30:05pm

re: #189 karmic_inquisitor

Who said this:

"Our enemies can deal a blow to us any time they wish. They did not wait for permission to do this. They do not deal a blow with prior notice. They do not take action because they can't. "

Moses?

191 Kragar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:30:15pm

OT

Apparently me using modeling putty to mold the pieces I need, not going to happen.

192 engineer cat  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:30:35pm

when are they gonna hold the angle-o'donnell-bachmann-paul crazed wingnut politician deathmatch?

193 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:30:41pm

re: #190 brookly red

Moses?

Moses Malone?

194 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:31:02pm

re: #176 darthstar

I've never slept with Michele Bachmann, but I suspect they're comparable.

SMACK!

195 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:31:06pm

re: #189 karmic_inquisitor

answer here: [Link: www.brainyquote.com...]

196 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:33:00pm
197 elizajane  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:33:20pm

re: #183 Stanley Sea

I read several Delaware blogs today. She filed suit against an employer. One of her claims was she wasn't allowed to attend grad school. Problem is, she just received her Bachelor's 2 weeks ago and was never enrolled in Yale grad school (or some other Ivy - I'm not going to look it up again, it's out there)

She's another pants on fire candidate, and apparently only Rove cares.

Princeton! Please do not besmirch the good name of Yale.

198 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:33:41pm

Shut up with the mysoginism!!!

199 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:34:01pm

O'Donnell is good for the Tea Party. The fervor and enthusiasm that the most of Tea Party is showing for political activism is good for politics in general. The lack of good judgement that some of these Tea Party members are showing, both at the state level and personally, is challenging to say the least.

O'Donnell is the results of a lack of good judgement, a mistake brought on by feelings and emotions and not by a realization that there are two sides to the coin in this game, the ability to energize the base, and selecting a electable candidate.

O'Donnell is not electable. Dan Maes in Colorado is not electable. The Tea Party experience is new, they are making some mistakes, and hopefully they will learn from their mistakes.

O'Donnell was a mistake, let's see what they learn.

200 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:34:38pm

re: #192 engineer dog

when are they gonna hold the angle-o'donnell-bachmann-paul crazed wingnut politician deathmatch?

Blunderdome: Two wingnuts enter, one leaves as a RINO!

201 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:35:05pm

re: #196 Max D. Reinhardt

I'm not going in there. That snatch hasn't seen action since the trailer park days.

What the fuck is wrong with you... do you think you could take this conversation any further into the gutter... you are starting to make O'Donnell look sane...

Stop the womanizing shit.

202 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:35:26pm

re: #196 Max D. Reinhardt

I'm not going in there. That snatch hasn't seen action since the trailer park days.

You say 'snatch' like it's a bad thing. No need for that. People are beautiful. We should embrace and enjoy ourselves (and each other).

203 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:35:56pm

re: #198 prairiefire

Shut up with the mysoginism!!!

George W, is that you?

204 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:36:18pm

re: #201 Walter L. Newton

What the fuck is wrong with you... do you think you could take this conversation any further into the gutter... you are starting to make O'Donnell look sane...

Stop the womanizing shit.

Word.

205 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:36:18pm

re: #202 darthstar

You say 'snatch' like it's a bad thing. No need for that. People are beautiful. We should embrace and enjoy ourselves (and each other).

I think that's about to be a misdemeanor.

206 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:36:20pm

re: #198 prairiefire

Shut up with the mysoginism!!!

Trebble agreed, not cool folks.

207 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:36:40pm

blogbreak

Photos from space

[Link: www.boston.com...]

208 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:37:02pm

re: #198 prairiefire

took you long enough...

209 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:37:06pm

re: #199 Walter L. Newton

Let's hope the whole bag o' nuts gets roasted.

With Tazers.

210 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:37:17pm

re: #203 Dark_Falcon

George W, is that you?

Not funny... the conversation about this woman, the comments about woman in general... is going right into the gutter... would you folks like to pay attention to the fact that we have woman on this forum... woman (and maybe some men) that consider this gutter talk unacceptable in this venue?

211 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:37:23pm

I was abducted and anally probed by aliens last night.

Then they froze me solid, tied ropes to my feet and neck, and used me to make crop circles.

But they did not give me a blow job.

212 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:37:37pm

re: #197 elizajane

Princeton! Please do not besmirch the good name of Yale.

I knew when I typed it I was wrong! ohsosorry

213 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:37:53pm

re: #206 wozzablog

Trebble agreed, not cool folks.

so you aren't cool with the tasers any more?

214 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:38:03pm

re: #178 Bubblehead II

I think I found it. Subject to further verification.

I did find it. But it is closer to 17:30 into the show.

Women cause distractions for men being trained to kill.

215 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:38:07pm

re: #208 brookly red

took you long enough...

feh

216 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:38:18pm

re: #196 Max D. Reinhardt

I'm not going in there. That snatch hasn't seen action since the trailer park days.

I have to agree with Walter; That line makes you look like an ass. It's entirely appropriate to call O'Donnell out for the loony things she says and thinks, but making crude sexual references like that makes her look like a victim and you look like some elitist asshole.

217 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:38:30pm

re: #210 Walter L. Newton

Not funny... the conversation about this woman, the comments about woman in general... is going right into the gutter... would you folks like to pay attention to the fact that we have woman on this forum... woman (and maybe some men) that consider this gutter talk unacceptable in this venue?

Thank you.

218 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:38:32pm

re: #207 Stanley Sea

blogbreak

Photos from space

[Link: www.boston.com...]

I can see Russia!

Image: s03_00000002.jpg

219 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:39:12pm

re: #199 Walter L. Newton

O'Donnell is good for the Tea Party. The fervor and enthusiasm that the most of Tea Party is showing for political activism is good for politics in general. The lack of good judgement that some of these Tea Party members are showing, both at the state level and personally, is challenging to say the least.

O'Donnell is the results of a lack of good judgement, a mistake brought on by feelings and emotions and not by a realization that there are two sides to the coin in this game, the ability to energize the base, and selecting a electable candidate.

O'Donnell is not electable. Dan Maes in Colorado is not electable. The Tea Party experience is new, they are making some mistakes, and hopefully they will learn from their mistakes.

O'Donnell was a mistake, let's see what they learn.

Except they're not gonna see it that way. Just like with Grizzly Mama, they're gonna see the failure of Tea Party candidates as the dark work of nefarious forces. There's already grumbling amongst the ranks that this election is gonna be rigged and suggesting "voter fraud" is in the works. Any Democrats elected or reelected on Election Day are gonna be seen, not as a refutation of Tea Party politics, but as "proof" that the whole thing was decided before people began voting.

220 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:39:22pm

re: #210 Walter L. Newton

Not funny... the conversation about this woman, the comments about woman in general... is going right into the gutter... would you folks like to pay attention to the fact that we have woman on this forum... woman (and maybe some men) that consider this gutter talk unacceptable in this venue?

Agreed. I didn't know what it was in reference to when I posted that. My joke was inappropriate.

221 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:39:47pm

re: #173 Bubblehead II

Then again...

Del. Tea Party Senate Candidate O’Donnell Opposes Women in Military

and this.

Christine O'Donnell in 1995: Women In Military Colleges Damage National Security

You can watch the whole thing here (relevant clip begins at 16:44).

O'Donnell is looking more like a Phyllis Schalfly type, IMO...crazier than a shithouse rat.

222 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:40:03pm

re: #98 compound idaho

The power to regulate masturbation is clearly one of those powers not delegated to the federal government therefore is reserved to the States or to the people unless you are paying for it. In that case it could be covered under the commerce clause. However; in that case it is more commonly referred to as a hand ... never mind.

This reads almost exactly like the state of Texas' petition to the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals, wherein it argues that the Texas anti-vibrator laws are somehow not ridiculous:

The State of Texas argued that the state has the right to regulate morality: "The state also argued in a brief that Texas has legitimate “morality based” reasons for the laws, which include “discouraging prurient interests in autonomous sex and the pursuit of sexual gratification unrelated to procreation.”"

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

...

"The sex instinct will be eradicated. Procreation will be an annual formality like the renewal of a ration card. We shall abolish the orgasm."
-- from some book Sarah Palin has almost certainly never read

223 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:40:44pm

re: #219 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Except they're not gonna see it that way. Just like with Grizzly Mama, they're gonna see the failure of Tea Party candidates as the dark work of nefarious forces. There's already grumbling amongst the ranks that this election is gonna be rigged and suggesting "voter fraud" is in the works. Any Democrats elected or reelected on Election Day are gonna be seen, not as a refutation of Tea Party politics, but as "proof" that the whole thing was decided before people began voting.

You just wish you were right.

224 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:41:12pm

I am invisible.

225 Kragar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:41:33pm

re: #222 negativ

-- from some book Sarah Palin has almost certainly never read

That doesn't exactly narrow it down much.
/

226 Kragar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:41:46pm

re: #224 b_sharp

I am invisible.

Who said that?

227 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:42:16pm

re: #220 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. I didn't know what it was in reference to when I posted that. My joke was inappropriate.

You didn't say anything offensive. Walter was rightly offended by the use of the word 'snatch' by Max...it's crude. I tried to downplay it with humor, but I see that, too, was probably a little mis-timed.

228 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:42:20pm

re: #223 Walter L. Newton

You just wish you were right.

If paranoia doesn't work, just pile on more paranoia!

229 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:42:25pm

re: #224 b_sharp

I am invisible.

The necktie gives you away.

230 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:42:25pm

re: #226 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Who said that?

I am not the ghost you are looking for.

231 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:42:39pm

Tea Party crazies: snatching de feet from de jaws of dicktory.

232 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:43:07pm

re: #229 Decatur Deb

The necktie gives you away.

ummm...I think that's a little low to be his necktie...

233 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:43:17pm

re: #222 negativ

This reads almost exactly like the state of Texas' petition to the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals, wherein it argues that the Texas anti-vibrator laws are somehow not ridiculous:

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

...

"The sex instinct will be eradicated. Procreation will be an annual formality like the renewal of a ration card. We shall abolish the orgasm."
-- from some book Sarah Palin has almost certainly never read

Walter would know the book it's from.

234 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:43:17pm

re: #219 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Except they're not gonna see it that way. Just like with Grizzly Mama, they're gonna see the failure of Tea Party candidates as the dark work of nefarious forces. There's already grumbling amongst the ranks that this election is gonna be rigged and suggesting "voter fraud" is in the works. Any Democrats elected or reelected on Election Day are gonna be seen, not as a refutation of Tea Party politics, but as "proof" that the whole thing was decided before people began voting.

I also read AllahPundit today giving credibility to the theory that Rove is pulling a double reverse whammy by dissing O’Donnell (the unelectable lunatic from Delaware) in some sort of conspiracy to motive the Tea Parties. They are molding reality to fit their delusions and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

235 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:44:18pm

re: #127 Dark_Falcon

I'm quite pleased with Karl Rove's actions on this one. He gave an honest political analysis of the primary and was promptly attacked for not throwing red meat to the Tea Party base. His response is the proper one: Stand by the truth and remind the attackers that O'Donnell is nuts.

Rove, you magnificent bastard!

I'd agree with this, if not for my suspicion that he'll be "clarifying his remarks" on Hannity or Limbaugh sometime soon.

236 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:44:23pm

Looks like there may be a debate between Crazy Christine O'Donnell and Chris Coons this Thursday. She rsvp'd, but then maybe not.

Coons apparently was on a debate team....popcorn time

[Link: wjz.com...]

237 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:44:29pm

re: #192 engineer dog

when are they gonna hold the angle-o'donnell-bachmann-paul crazed wingnut politician deathmatch?

Right after the Micheal Moore, Anne Coulter nude jello match.

238 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:44:44pm

re: #213 brookly red

so you aren't cool with the tasers any more?

Wow. I'm the obessed one?.

You want to continue a snarky fight based on an upding. I'm not going to let you.

If you really wanted to go there i would find some comment you have updinged and then scour the thread for your nic, or I would mention you have spent more time focussed on me in this thread than you have with a person who would not even save a Jew from the Nazi's

But i'm not going there with that.

And didn't i already say tasering innocent people was wrong? Don't answer that, because i know i did.

Ahab, you will have to find another whale. G'luck with that.

239 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:44:46pm

BTW, The 9-11 truthers are thrilled that Rove has been expelled from conservative politics.

240 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:44:51pm

re: #222 negativ

This reads almost exactly like the state of Texas' petition to the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals, wherein it argues that the Texas anti-vibrator laws are somehow not ridiculous:

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

...

"The sex instinct will be eradicated. Procreation will be an annual formality like the renewal of a ration card. We shall abolish the orgasm."
-- from some book Sarah Palin has almost certainly never read

A delightful libertarian here in AL organized a "Send a Sex Toy to Troy King" drive to protest the AG's attempt to enforce a similar law here.

241 Kragar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:44:52pm

re: #234 Killgore Trout

I also read AllahPundit today giving credibility to the theory that Rove is pulling a double reverse whammy by dissing O’Donnell (the unelectable lunatic from Delaware) in some sort of conspiracy to motive the Tea Parties. They are molding reality to fit their delusions and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

Maybe we can get some geese to fly overhead, just to seal the deal?

242 Kronocide  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:45:11pm

re: #234 Killgore Trout

You mean to tell me they're goin Troofer on us?

Ya don' say!

243 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:45:18pm

re: #89 Charles

Somebody should ask her if she masturbates.

I think from this text of one of her essays, she simply gets it on without worrying about that whole "marriage" thang:

"Yes, I am a Christian. Yes, I do seek to surrender my entire life to the will of our Father. That is precisely why I don't talk about abstinence or secondary virginity when I am asked to speak about sex. Abstinence is a physical discipline, not a calling. It makes our physical condition the goal.

As Christians, virginity is not even our goal. Purity and holiness are our calling in Christ. In Philippians 3:14 when the apostle Paul urges us to "press toward the goal" he is not calling us to push the limits as long as we don't cross the line. He continues to assure us that it is a prize, a great reward, to live as Christ calls us to live.

I don't like the term "secondary virginity" because it, too, makes virginity the goal and seems to classify certain people as second-rate Christians. 2 Corinthians 5:17 says that "if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold all things have become new." It does not say "all things except our virginity." When Christ heals people from cancer, there is no doubt that the physical body has been restored. Yet sometimes our own shame can cause us to doubt His ability to restore our purity. Christ promises to cleanse us from all of our sins. "

Some heavy rationalization in there. Especially that last line.

244 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:45:24pm

re: #234 Killgore Trout

Rove helped create the Tea Party, thinking he could control and manipulate them, but he lost control and now he's in a balancing act of calling for reason (keeping the majority of Republicans from abandoning the party) and encouraging the vile anti-Obama rhetoric that helped build the Tea Party in the first place.

245 Max  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:46:09pm

Just watched the Rush video from the last thread. Who the fuck is Rush Limbaugh to call Karl Rove a hypocrite?

Rove rightfully criticized the nomination of a lunatic for a national GOP election.

Limbaugh huffed and puffed about how bad drugs were for years, but then he got caught and he tried to weasel his way out of it.

246 Kragar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:46:21pm

re: #243 karmic_inquisitor

Anyone who thinks sex is a shameful act has got real issues.

247 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:46:59pm

re: #242 BigPapa

You mean to tell me they're goin Troofer on us?

Ya don' say!

They're getting close: 9-11 Truthers See Big Gains in Republican Primaries
The complete transformation is going to take another year or two.

248 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:47:10pm

re: #221 talon_262

O'Donnell is looking more like a Phyllis Schalfly type, IMO...crazier than a shithouse rat.

Man have you got that right. Lizards, If you haven't watched this, may I suggest you do. Jump to 17:30.

[Link: www.c-spanvideo.org...]

Womem receive special privileges

249 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:47:15pm

re: #246 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Anyone who thinks sex is a shameful act has got real issues.

"It is if you do it right."

250 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:47:16pm

re: #244 darthstar

Rove helped create the Tea Party, thinking he could control and manipulate them, but he lost control and now he's in a balancing act of calling for reason (keeping the majority of Republicans from abandoning the party) and encouraging the vile anti-Obama rhetoric that helped build the Tea Party in the first place.

I saw that movie! gawd I laughed when he said Abby Normal.

251 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:47:34pm

re: #246 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Anyone who thinks sex is a shameful act has got real issues.

it is, but only if you do it right.

252 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:47:52pm

re: #223 Walter L. Newton

You just wish you were right.

Hell, I don't wish anything, because I watched it happen with the far-Left back in '04 & '06. They viewed Kerry in '04 like the far-Right viewed McCain in '08, namely a compromise candidate that pleased nobody and pissed too many folks off. But even then, they were absolutely sure that Bush was so hated, that the election was all but won. So when they failed, half screamed "voter fraud!," while the other half started telling themselves that it wasn't that they were too far to the Left, but rather that they weren't far enough.

So, come '06, they ran guys like "Red Ned" Lamont and other far-Left wackos in a few spots, but overall ran Blue Dogs. And even then, when numerous races were won by Blue Dogs, those far-Left nuts who lost were not seen as failures, but rather as "proof" that the election was "rigged." I lost track of how many swore up and down that elections they'd won were "rigged" because the margins were too narrow to be a coincidence.

253 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:48:10pm

re: #249 Decatur Deb

"It is if you do it right."

Jinx! You owe me a coke.

254 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:48:19pm

re: #251 PT Barnum

By 19 seconds.

255 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:48:25pm

re: #245 Max D. Reinhardt

Just watched the Rush video from the last thread. Who the fuck is Rush Limbaugh to call Karl Rove a hypocrite?

Rove rightfully criticized the nomination of a lunatic for a national GOP election.

Limbaugh huffed and puffed about how bad drugs were for years, but then he got caught and he tried to weasel his way out of it.

STOP USING PEOPLES OWN STANDARDS TO JUDGE THEM.
It's not fair.

256 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:48:41pm

re: #246 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Anyone who thinks sex is a shameful act has got real issues.

To be fair, she doesn't seem to think that from what she wrote. But the prevailing Christian Conservatism message to youth has been abstinence.

257 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:49:01pm

re: #235 negativ

I'd agree with this, if not for my suspicion that he'll be "clarifying his remarks" on Hannity or Limbaugh sometime soon.

I don't think so. He put too much behind his analysis. Even if he recants, he'd just look like a fool doing so. I think he'll protect his long-term reputation and stay the course.

258 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:49:08pm

re: #243 karmic_inquisitor

I think from this text of one of her essays, she simply gets it on without worrying about that whole "marriage" thang:

Some heavy rationalization in there. Especially that last line.

CO-ED ORGY DORMS AT THE C-STREET HOUSE!!!

259 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:49:34pm

re: #256 karmic_inquisitor

To be fair, she doesn't seem to think that from what she wrote. But the prevailing Christian Conservatism message to youth has been abstinence.

That's why I would vote for her--for Pope.

260 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:49:56pm

re: #254 Decatur Deb

By 19 seconds.

True but I didn't see yours when I posted mine so it should count, right?

261 Max  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:50:17pm

re: #244 darthstar

Rove helped create the Tea Party, thinking he could control and manipulate them, but he lost control and now he's in a balancing act of calling for reason (keeping the majority of Republicans from abandoning the party) and encouraging the vile anti-Obama rhetoric that helped build the Tea Party in the first place.

Rove was one of the first people on the right to criticize the rise of ridiculous anti-Obama rhetoric, and during a heated presidential campaign too.

262 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:50:24pm

re: #259 Decatur Deb

That's why I would vote for her--for Pope.

Go blow smoke out your chimney.

/

263 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:50:58pm

People who obsess about their own and others people's "purity" are generally possessed of purulence, in my experience.

264 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:51:06pm

re: #260 PT Barnum

True but I didn't see yours when I posted mine so it should count, right?

Mine was supposed to be Woody Allen, but might be jumbled.

265 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:51:30pm

Evening lizards!

266 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:51:54pm

re: #252 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Hell, I don't wish anything, because I watched it happen with the far-Left back in '04 & '06. They viewed Kerry in '04 like the far-Right viewed McCain in '08, namely a compromise candidate that pleased nobody and pissed too many folks off. But even then, they were absolutely sure that Bush was so hated, that the election was all but won. So when they failed, half screamed "voter fraud!," while the other half started telling themselves that it wasn't that they were too far to the Left, but rather that they weren't far enough.

So, come '06, they ran guys like "Red Ned" Lamont and other far-Left wackos in a few spots, but overall ran Blue Dogs. And even then, when numerous races were won by Blue Dogs, those far-Left nuts who lost were not seen as failures, but rather as "proof" that the election was "rigged." I lost track of how many swore up and down that elections they'd won were "rigged" because the margins were too narrow to be a coincidence.

Like I have said, this hopefully will be a growing process, one where the nuts shake out of the tree, the mistakes become a "teachable moment" and the fervor that is being displayed matures into a viable force.

No one can predict the future that surely. we'll see what happens.

267 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:54:18pm

re: #266 Walter L. Newton

Like I have said, this hopefully will be a growing process, one where the nuts shake out of the tree, the mistakes become a "teachable moment" and the fervor that is being displayed matures into a viable force.

No one can predict the future that surely. we'll see what happens.

I can predict the future... I predict Stanley will downding this comment ;)

268 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:54:35pm

re: #263 Cato the Elder

People who obsess about their own and others people's "purity" are generally possessed of purulence, in my experience.

I question your purity in having posted that.

/ Got Dorm Room?

269 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:55:44pm

re: #261 Max D. Reinhardt

Rove was one of the first people on the right to criticize the rise of ridiculous anti-Obama rhetoric, and during a heated presidential campaign too.

Rove is a master manipulator. Some soft criticism when he knows it won't make any difference (by September, 2008, everyone knew McCain was toast), and at the same time playing conservative spokesman. He does nothing without thinking about how it will play from every angle.

His criticism of O'Donnell is also calculated. By throwing that unelectable woman under the bus, he validates people who are still thinking they should vote for Rand Paul, or Miller, or Angle...because they're not as crazy as SHE is...

270 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:56:01pm

re: #264 Decatur Deb

Mine was supposed to be Woody Allen, but might be jumbled.

Mine too.

271 Lidane  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:56:29pm

re: #86 WindUpBird

Honestly? I'm pretty sure God IS providing a way out-- for the Jews that were being protected by those brave people who housed them in WW2. That's the damned point.

Ugh. People like her make me want to grab the nearest history book and smack them upside the head with it. Hard.

272 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:56:37pm

re: #261 Max D. Reinhardt

Rove was one of the first people on the right to criticize the rise of ridiculous anti-Obama rhetoric, and during a heated presidential campaign too.

Karl Rove is politically smart, which is why he goes after rhetoric that goes over the top. The problem is that he's now dealing with people who brook no opposition, and attack anyone who offers internal criticism as a traitor. Such attitudes are death to a strategist like Rove, which is why he opposes them.

273 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:56:38pm

re: #267 brookly red

I can predict the future... I predict Stanley will downding this comment ;)

Wrong! :)

274 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:57:02pm

re: #267 brookly red

I can predict the future... I predict Stanley will downding this comment ;)

please! are you watching dings tonight Miss Cleo?

275 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:57:07pm

re: #266 Walter L. Newton

Like I have said, this hopefully will be a growing process, one where the nuts shake out of the tree, the mistakes become a "teachable moment" and the fervor that is being displayed matures into a viable force.

No one can predict the future that surely. we'll see what happens.

I really can't say I share the same level of optimism, at least not right now. I don't see the GOP really waking up to the reality that embracing the far-Right is an election-losing proposition until after 2012.

276 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:57:33pm

re: #273 darthstar

Wrong! :)

no I just pulled a Rove ;)

277 Max  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:57:53pm

re: #269 darthstar

Will Rove Derangement Syndrome be in the DSM-5?

/

278 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:58:06pm

re: #246 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Anyone who thinks sex is a shameful act has got real issues.

Yah. I had sex once, but the doctor gave me a pill that cleared it right up.

279 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:58:06pm

re: #250 brookly red

I saw that movie! gawd I laughed when he said Abby Normal.

Marty Feldman rocked.

280 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:58:42pm

re: #266 Walter L. Newton

Since the teabaggers' "fervor" is all about shit that is insane to begin with, I hope they all self-disembowel.

281 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:58:56pm

re: #279 darthstar

Marty Feldman rocked.

what hump?

282 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:59:34pm

re: #281 brookly red

what hump?

The one that kept changing sides?

283 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 6:59:52pm

re: #280 Cato the Elder

Since the teabaggers' "fervor" is all about shit that is insane to begin with, I hope they all self-disembowel.

I thought that was reserved for samurai, and Romans of quality.

284 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:00:05pm

re: #277 Max D. Reinhardt

Will Rove Derangement Syndrome be in the DSM-5?

/

All snark aside, it isn't derangement. Rove is a power junkie, but not someone people are attracted to (which is why he never ran for office himself). But he knows how to work people, and truth be told he's very good at it. He could sell snow to an Eskimo in the middle of winter.

285 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:00:28pm

re: #281 brookly red

what hump?

Werewolf.

There wolf!

286 Lidane  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:00:44pm

re: #272 Dark_Falcons

The problem is that he's now dealing with people who brook no opposition, and attack anyone who offers internal criticism as a traitor. Such attitudes are death to a strategist like Rove, which is why he opposes them.

He opposes them, yet he helped CREATE that atmosphere. I can't be the only one who remembers eight years of all criticism of the President being equated with treason, and with wanting the terrorists to win.

Rove spent years poisoning the well in this country, and it's now coming back to bite him in the ass. After years of enabling these kinds of strident freaks, is it really all that shocking that they'd go after him for daring to criticize one of their own?

287 Max  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:01:03pm

re: #272 Dark_Falcon

Karl Rove is politically smart, which is why he goes after rhetoric that goes over the top. The problem is that he's now dealing with people who brook no opposition, and attack anyone who offers internal criticism as a traitor. Such attitudes are death to a strategist like Rove, which is why he opposes them.

If Rove was the master-manipulator that the Left makes him out to be, then he would have known that it is time for the raving-wingnut war games. Criticism of belligerants is strictly prohibited!

288 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:01:07pm

re: #282 reine.de.tout

The one that kept changing sides?

like voting for it before voting against it, or something like that?

289 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:01:14pm

laters gaters, and Frau Bleuchar.

290 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:01:35pm

re: #284 darthstar

Not if he had to argue for AGW.

291 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:01:44pm

re: #289 wozzablog

laters gaters, and Frau Bleuchar.

*cue the horses*

292 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:02:44pm

re: #291 reine.de.tout

*cue the horses*

that was one fine movie...

293 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:03:13pm

re: #275 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I really can't say I share the same level of optimism, at least not right now. I don't see the GOP really waking up to the reality that embracing the far-Right is an election-losing proposition until after 2012.

Well... I think the GOP woke up to the fact that O'Donnell is a mistake and they are not that interested in spending any of the bank on her... sounds like a they woke up to that reality.

I'm actually not asking you to share shit with me... I don't need your support.

294 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:03:29pm

re: #280 Cato the Elder

Since the teabaggers' "fervor" is all about shit that is insane to begin with, I hope they all self-disembowel.

Whatever.

295 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:04:01pm

Karl Rove is Greta slamming O'Donnell right now.

296 Max  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:04:38pm

re: #286 Lidane

I don't think it is right to crown Rove the Father of the Teabag movement. I think that this climate of craziness can rest with Rush, Beck, and the right wing media that have been giving credence to deduct conspiracy theories.

297 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:04:42pm

re: #295 NJDhockeyfan

Karl Rove is on Greta's show slamming O'Donnell right now.

Whoops! PIMF

298 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:05:11pm

Why does it feel like Friday night, when it's only Hump Day?

299 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:05:20pm

re: #286 Lidane

s

He opposes them, yet he helped CREATE that atmosphere. I can't be the only one who remembers eight years of all criticism of the President being equated with treason, and with wanting the terrorists to win.

Rove spent years poisoning the well in this country, and it's now coming back to bite him in the ass. After years of enabling these kinds of strident freaks, is it really all that shocking that they'd go after him for daring to criticize one of their own?

They haven't learned to take constructive criticism, which is a skill Rove tries to teach. His decision to move against O'Donnell is a calculation:

He's calculating that even if O'Donnell were to win she'd be uncontrollable, since she's too sure of herself to listen to others. He feels (correctly) that such a person would not be an asset to the party, and that their loss might teach her backers some humility. That last, sadly, is unlikely.

300 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:05:21pm

re: #292 brookly red

that was one fine movie...

It was, indeed.
I still laugh myself silly, every time I see it.

301 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:05:54pm

re: #296 Max D. Reinhardt

I don't think it is right to crown Rove the Father of the Teabag movement. I think that this climate of craziness can rest with Rush, Beck, and the right wing media that have been giving credence to deduct conspiracy theories.

That bastard has many fathers. Rove and Co. did a lot to set the tone.

302 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:05:58pm

re: #294 Walter L. Newton

Whatever.

I am digging around for that old "See you in November" 45... its around here somewhere.

303 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:06:40pm

re: #298 Charles

Why does it feel like Friday night, when it's only Hump Day?

what hump?

304 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:06:47pm

re: #300 reine.de.tout

It was, indeed.
I still laugh myself silly, every time I see it.

Great movie. I laugh myself silly every time I look in the mirror.

305 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:06:54pm

Feels like Wednesday to me.

306 Max  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:07:10pm

re: #301 Decatur Deb

That bastard has many fathers. Rove and Co. did a lot to set the tone.

Karl disbanded "Rove & Company" in 1998 at the request of George W. Bush.

307 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:07:45pm

re: #298 Charles

Why does it feel like Friday night, when it's only Hump Day?

Cause, we are ready for Friday night. Screw this week.

308 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:07:51pm

re: #261 Max D. Reinhardt

Rove was one of the first people on the right to criticize the rise of ridiculous anti-Obama rhetoric, and during a heated presidential campaign too.

You're not going back far enough. Think when Bish wa sin office and Rove had influence.

Remember Terri Schiavo? Remember all the giving of the far right so-con gorups access? Focus on the Family, et al? That's where he helped create it. By the time Obama was running, he was A) out of power and B) was watching it spin out of control

309 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:08:18pm

re: #306 Max D. Reinhardt

Karl disbanded "Rove & Company" in 1998 at the request of George W. Bush.

Did he retire to the desert to do penance?

310 Max  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:08:25pm

Now Rove is taking credit for backing creationist Rubio, because Rubio's nuttiness is more well hidden then O'Donnell's.

311 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:08:26pm

If I were any more bored, I'd be just a shell.

312 freetoken  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:08:27pm

re: #296 Max D. Reinhardt

Rove did, however, spend years maneuvering elements of the GOP base, especially the socons/theocons, against parts of the establishment that weren't for Rove's candidates.

Rove helped to poison the well.

313 darthstar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:08:29pm

re: #291 reine.de.tout

I got caught by the Obama shoplifting scam you linked...was able to remove the post by going to my home page and clicking remove. I hate those vulnerabilities in facebook.

314 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:08:33pm

re: #304 b_sharp

Great movie. I laugh myself silly every time I look in the mirror.

What, you have a hump that keeps moving from side to side?

The scene that sticks in my mind -
When Igor picks up Frankenstein, and says, "Walk this way". and Frankenstein starts following him, and Igor stops and says, "No, no! Walk this way!", and isn't happy until everybody is walking with a limp. I don't know why, but I love that!

315 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:08:47pm

re: #306 Max D. Reinhardt

Karl disbanded "Rove & Company" in 1998 at the request of George W. Bush.

I head they were going to do a reunion tour...

316 Lidane  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:08:50pm

re: #296 Max D. Reinhardt

I don't think it is right to crown Rove the Father of the Teabag movement. I think that this climate of craziness can rest with Rush, Beck, and the right wing media that have been giving credence to deduct conspiracy theories.

Oh, I'm not calling Rove the Father of the Teabaggers. I'm saying he spent eight years poisoning the well of political discourse in this country by equating all criticism and dissent with treason and enabling the strident freaks, making them believe that they spoke for "Real America".

The criticism he's getting from Limbaugh and the teabaggers isn't a surprise. He dared to say mean things about one of their own, and that kind of dissent just isn't part of Real America, don'tcha know.

317 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:09:33pm

re: #313 darthstar

I got caught by the Obama shoplifting scam you linked...was able to remove the post by going to my home page and clicking remove. I hate those vulnerabilities in facebook.

That's what I finally had to do. I didn't have that option right away, though.
That stuff aggravates me so much - I try to immediately post a warning, but sometimes people don't refresh and so they don't see it. Grrrrr!

318 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:09:35pm

re: #298 Charles

Why does it feel like Friday night, when it's only Hump Day?

Speak for yourself. It's Saturday night for me......... Friday's are my Monday.

// Up is down, left is right, right is wrong. What a strange and convoluted world we live in.

319 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:10:03pm

The gloaming upon the San Gabriel Mountains of California for September 15, A.D. 2010. The Towercam, Pacific time zone.

A mountain is range indifferent to the wearisome arguments of politics.

320 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:10:14pm

re: #297 NJDhockeyfan

Whoops! PIMF

Good. Keep hammering her, Karl! The GOP needs you now more than ever.

321 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:10:20pm

Happy hump day, all!
*waves*
( to the lurkers too!)

323 Max  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:10:35pm

re: #308 WindUpBird

Again, I don't think it is right to give Karl Rove credit for the rise of the religious right. FOTF really picked up steam in the 90s, under Gingrich and Delay.

324 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:10:42pm

re: #321 Floral Giraffe

Happy hump day, all!
*waves*
( to the lurkers too!)

Hiya, {FLO}!
How's tricks?

325 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:10:56pm

re: #318 Bubblehead II

Speak for yourself. It's Saturday night for me... Friday's are my Monday.

// Up is down, left is right, right is wrong. What a strange and convoluted world we live in.

another great movie... did you see "Wrong is Right" what a pisser!

326 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:11:02pm

re: #308 WindUpBird

You're not going back far enough. Think when Bish wa sin office and Rove had influence.

Remember Terri Schiavo? Remember all the giving of the far right so-con gorups access? Focus on the Family, et al? That's where he helped create it. By the time Obama was running, he was A) out of power and B) was watching it spin out of control

FWIW, all that values / moralist shit happened long before. The clowns that handed pete Wilson his walking papers in California are the social conservative nut jobs who took over the GOP long ago.

Any and all truces are long gone. Fiscal Conservative/Social Liberals exist to be used by SoCons. Rove rode their wave for a while and is now having his Goldwater moment.

327 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:11:14pm

re: #324 reine.de.tout

Good, hard day, but it's all progress, and that's a good thing!

328 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:11:24pm

re: #321 Floral Giraffe

Happy hump day, all!
*waves*
( to the lurkers too!)

Happy hump day to you too!

329 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:11:36pm

re: #322 freetoken

Interesting:

Michael Steele Defends Gingrich's Comments That Obama May Have A 'Kenyan Anti-Colonial Worldview'


[Video]

I'm going to ask again what's been asked here, what's wrong with having an anti colonial world view and as said, what could be more American than being anti-colonial? Seriously Newt's a sleazebag and always has been. He's just showing it more since Obama's in the White House.

330 Kragar  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:11:37pm

I have it on good authority that O'Donnell is against Hump Day.

331 Lidane  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:12:13pm

re: #299 Dark_Falcon

They haven't learned to take constructive criticism, which is a skill Rove tries to teach.

Why should they take constructive criticism? They're the Voice of Real America, don'tcha know.

Rove helped to create this monster by setting a poisonous tone in the national political discourse. It's not shocking that they're attacking him now.

332 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:12:17pm

re: #330 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

LOL!

333 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:12:19pm

re: #327 Floral Giraffe

Good, hard day, but it's all progress, and that's a good thing!

You had a nice weekend?

334 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:12:24pm

re: #314 reine.de.tout

What, you have a hump that keeps moving from side to side?

The scene that sticks in my mind -
When Igor picks up Frankenstein, and says, "Walk this way". and Frankenstein starts following him, and Igor stops and says, "No, no! Walk this way!", and isn't happy until everybody is walking with a limp. I don't know why, but I love that!

Mel's movies are all great and contain more than their fair share of quotable quotes and memorable visuals.

Blazing Saddles is my favourite, especially Mongo.

335 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:12:36pm

re: #317 reine.de.tout

That's what I finally had to do. I didn't have that option right away, though.
That stuff aggravates me so much - I try to immediately post a warning, but sometimes people don't refresh and so they don't see it. Grrr!

?

336 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:12:52pm

re: #315 brookly red

I head they were going to do a reunion tour...

I heard they were going to do a performance on the roof of a music studio.

337 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:13:16pm

re: #333 reine.de.tout

It was amazing in SF!
LA weather, people in shorts!
Very warm.
Lotta fun.
I need to get out more.

338 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:13:17pm

re: #322 freetoken

Interesting:

Michael Steele Defends Gingrich's Comments That Obama May Have A 'Kenyan Anti-Colonial Worldview'

[Video]

What an air head.

339 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:13:25pm

re: #335 brookly red

?

Code.
Don't worry about it.

340 freetoken  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:13:33pm

re: #329 HappyWarrior

I wish the reporter would have asked Steele : "So being anti-colonial is wrong?"

341 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:13:41pm

re: #325 brookly red

another great movie... did you see "Wrong is Right" what a pisser!

Nope. The title doesn't even ring any bells. But from your succinct review, I apparently didn't miss anything.

342 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:13:43pm

re: #337 Floral Giraffe

It was amazing in SF!
LA weather, people in shorts!
Very warm.
Lotta fun.
I need to get out more.

Why, yes, yes you do.

343 Lidane  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:13:59pm

re: #322 freetoken

Interesting:

Michael Steele Defends Gingrich's Comments That Obama May Have A 'Kenyan Anti-Colonial Worldview'

I'd say all sorts of unflattering things about Steele right now, but they'd get me banned.

Fuck anyone who defends those statements by Newt, or the idea that anti-colonialism is a bad thing. They can go get bent. =P

344 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:14:05pm

re: #334 b_sharp

Mel's movies are all great and contain more than their fair share of quotable quotes and memorable visuals.

Blazing Saddles is my favourite, especially Mongo.

My favorite is The Producers. Loved the clever reference to Kafka in that especially after having to read The Metamorphisis in 12th grade English and visiting the Prague Jewish Quarter where Kafka lived much of his life. Plus the chemistry Zero Mostel and Gene Wilder had was awesome.

345 Max  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:14:56pm

Why do Karl Rove's critics believe that he has superhuman powers of manipulation?

If Karl was the real puppet-master of the party, wouldn't he just go along with the raving teabag rhetoric?

He's not making any money or gaining any political capital by criticizing McCain, Palin, or O'Donnell.

346 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:14:58pm

re: #322 freetoken

Interesting:

Michael Steele Defends Gingrich's Comments That Obama May Have A 'Kenyan Anti-Colonial Worldview'


[Video]

I honestly, at this point, wonder if Steele's gonna have a long shelf life after November.

347 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:15:02pm

re: #330 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I have it on good authority that O'Donnell is against Hump Day.

Only outside of marriage (I think).

348 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:15:27pm

re: #340 freetoken

I wish the reporter would have asked Steele : "So being anti-colonial is wrong?"

I do too. It needs to be pointed out to Steele, Gingrich, D'Souza that this country was founded by fighting the world's then greatest colonial power. The Monroe Doctrine which is something every American learns in history class was a stay the hell out of our continent to the colonial powers too.

349 Lidane  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:15:27pm

re: #346 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I honestly, at this point, wonder if Steele's gonna have a long shelf life after November.

I'm amazed he's lasted this long, to be honest.

350 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:15:30pm

re: #341 Bubblehead II

Nope. The title doesn't even ring any bells. But from your succinct review, I apparently didn't miss anything.

It was all political satire... yeah I guess you would not have appreciated it.

351 freetoken  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:16:13pm

re: #346 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

His job as head of the RNC is Fundraiser-in-Chief, and really not much more than that. While some people treat him as the leader of the GOP he's really just another face put out there to raise money.

352 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:16:52pm

re: #342 reine.de.tout

I'm working on it!
*smooch*

353 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:17:16pm

re: #351 freetoken

His job as head of the RNC is Fundraiser-in-Chief, and really not much more than that. While some people treat him as the leader of the GOP he's really just another face put out there to raise money.

Which (raising money) he is not doing very well.

354 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:17:45pm

Honestly I thought he was a surprise pick in the first place. Yeah his ads that he had in the race against Ben Cardin were catchy. The one with the puppy got a chuckle out of me but he didn't really distuguish himself honestly in that campaign or when he was Bob Ehrlich's Lt Governor.

355 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:18:00pm

Politics has been like this forever.
Civil War era cartoon.

356 engineer cat  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:18:03pm

re: #299 Dark_Falcon

They haven't learned to take constructive criticism, which is a skill Rove tries to teach.

i'm gonna have to get out my copy of piaget and locate the tea party movement in terms of emotional development

357 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:18:12pm

re: #344 HappyWarrior

My favorite is The Producers. Loved the clever reference to Kafka in that especially after having to read The Metamorphisis in 12th grade English and visiting the Prague Jewish Quarter where Kafka lived much of his life. Plus the chemistry Zero Mostel and Gene Wilder had was awesome.

I thought the musical remake with Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick sucked.

358 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:18:17pm

re: #348 HappyWarrior

I do too. It needs to be pointed out to Steele, Gingrich, D'Souza that this country was founded by fighting the world's then greatest colonial power. The Monroe Doctrine which is something every American learns in history class was a stay the hell out of our continent to the colonial powers too.

well I hate to tell you but I don't think they teach that any more...

359 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:18:21pm

re: #299 Dark_Falcon

They haven't learned to take constructive criticism, which is a skill Rove tries to teach. His decision to move against O'Donnell is a calculation:

He's calculating that even if O'Donnell were to win she'd be uncontrollable, since she's too sure of herself to listen to others. He feels (correctly) that such a person would not be an asset to the party, and that their loss might teach her backers some humility. That last, sadly, is unlikely.

You just described Sister Sarah. Maybe they think she's not going to run and is just going to keep cashing in? Or the gloves will come off when she finally declares? (Reagan's b-day 2/6 my guess)

360 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:18:35pm

re: #350 brookly red

It was all political satire... yeah I guess you would not have appreciated it.

OUCH! That one left a mark.......... :-)

361 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:18:51pm

re: #358 brookly red

well I hate to tell you but I don't think they teach that any more...

Oh yeah? Then explain to me why it was asked on hsitory tests that I took seven years ago.

362 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:19:00pm

If O'Donnell is anti-wank, how does she feel about actual teabagging?

363 Gus  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:19:42pm

re: #351 freetoken

His job as head of the RNC is Fundraiser-in-Chief, and really not much more than that. While some people treat him as the leader of the GOP he's really just another face put out there to raise money.

Steele has literally compromised all of his principles to fit those of the ever morphing RNC. He speaks nothing of what he once believed in especially with regards to social issues. Here we have a man, leading the RNC to raise funds, that has turned into a shell of man that was willing to compromise his own values and principles.

364 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:19:49pm

re: #357 Alouette

I thought the musical remake with Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick sucked.

Yeah I was disappointed in that plus they got rid of Dick Shawn's character LSD.

365 Mocking Jay  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:19:56pm

re: #362 Cato the Elder

If O'Donnell is anti-wank, how does she feel about actual teabagging?

With or without orgasm?

366 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:20:03pm

re: #355 Ojoe

Politics has been like this forever.
Civil War era cartoon.

Wow, that is disgusting.

367 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:20:03pm

re: #355 Ojoe

Politics has been like this forever.
Civil War era cartoon.

Yeah, it's history, but that sucked.

368 Lidane  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:20:13pm

re: #362 Cato the Elder

If O'Donnell is anti-wank, how does she feel about actual teabagging?

She's against it before marriage, especially if it takes place in a co-ed dorm orgy room.

369 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:20:14pm

re: #343 Lidane

I'd say all sorts of unflattering things about Steele right now, but they'd get me banned.

Fuck anyone who defends those statements by Newt, or the idea that anti-colonialism is a bad thing. They can go get bent. =P

It depends on which kind of anti-colonialism: The American kind is very good. The Communist kind of anti-colonialism (to which Obama's father subscribed) was very bad news, and always worse than colonialism had been.

370 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:20:20pm

re: #319 Ojoe

The gloaming upon the San Gabriel Mountains of California for September 15, A.D. 2010. The Towercam, Pacific time zone.

A mountain is range indifferent to the wearisome arguments of politics.

The info says the temp there is 60.
*sigh*
I'd give my right arm for 60 degree weather right now. It must feel great.

371 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:20:23pm

re: #360 Bubblehead II

OUCH! That one left a mark... :-)

sorry I am a bit err agitated tonight...

372 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:21:00pm

re: #367 Stanley Sea

Yeah, it's history, but that sucked.

I was expecting one of the Lincoln-as-ape versions.

373 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:21:10pm

re: #364 HappyWarrior

Yeah I was disappointed in that plus they got rid of Dick Shawn's character LSD.

Will Ferrell sucked the most. But I have never known of a Will Ferrell movie in which he did not suck. He sucks more than Adam Sandler.

374 freetoken  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:22:06pm

re: #363 Gus 802

As seen in many videos, he is at local gatherings of known donors, reflecting back to them what they already believe and want to here, in order to get them write a check, hopefully with as many zeros as possible.

Do not look for virtue in such endeavors.

375 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:22:11pm

re: #369 Dark_Falcon

It depends on which kind of anti-colonialism: The American kind is very good. The Communist kind of anti-colonialism (to which Obama's father subscribed) was very bad news, and always worse than colonialism had been.

Depends on which end of the whip you were on.

376 brookly red  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:22:12pm

re: #361 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah? Then explain to me why it was asked on hsitory tests that I took seven years ago.

I assume you were no longer in grade school at the time?

377 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:22:59pm

re: #376 brookly red

I assume you were no longer in grade school at the time?

It's cool. I am just saying. They still do teach it. Granted most people forget about it but it's still a part of American history that is taught to American kids.

378 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:23:01pm

re: #371 brookly red

sorry I am a bit err agitated tonight...

Tis good. Compared to some of the regulars here,I am not the sharpest pencil in the box and I know it.

379 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:23:24pm

re: #373 Alouette

Will Ferrell sucked the most. But I have never known of a Will Ferrell movie in which he did not suck. He sucks more than Adam Sandler.

Old School was funny.

380 Lidane  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:23:48pm

re: #369 Dark_Falcon

It depends on which kind of anti-colonialism: The American kind is very good. The Communist kind of anti-colonialism (to which Obama's father subscribed) was very bad news, and always worse than colonialism had been.

Sorry, but I don't buy that at all. Obama's father disappeared from his life by the time he was two years old, and they met only once or twice before his father's death. The beliefs and opinions of his father don't mean shit in the sum total of President Obama's life.

Fuck Dinesh D'Souza for even putting that garbage out there, fuck Forbes for putting it on the cover, and fuck Newt for parroting it instead of calling it out for being the blatantly racist drivel it was.

381 freetoken  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:25:03pm

re: #380 Lidane

Indeed, was one of the right-wing's numerous criticisms of Obama that he isn't manly enough because he was raised by his mother/grandmother?

382 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:27:58pm

re: #375 Decatur Deb

Depends on which end of the whip you were on.

Not really. Communism engendered artificial famines and mass murder. British Colonialism didn't involve drawing up lists of 'class enemies to murder.

That having been said, the anti-colonialists in Kenya did have legitimate grievances. Land allocation had been grossly unfair, and the way the economy was run by whites and Indians did sting. But communism was not the answer. It only lead to things getting even worse.

383 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:30:03pm

re: #380 Lidane

Sorry, but I don't buy that at all. Obama's father disappeared from his life by the time he was two years old, and they met only once or twice before his father's death. The beliefs and opinions of his father don't mean shit in the sum total of President Obama's life.

Fuck Dinesh D'Souza for even putting that garbage out there, fuck Forbes for putting it on the cover, and fuck Newt for parroting it instead of calling it out for being the blatantly racist drivel it was.

I'm talking about the philosophy to which his father subscribed, not the father's influence on the son. I agree that there isn't a strong "anti-colonialist" influence in Obama. I also wonder how D'Souza's words will be received in India (his country of birth).

384 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:30:11pm

re: #382 Dark_Falcon

Not really. Communism engendered artificial famines and mass murder. British Colonialism didn't involve drawing up lists of 'class enemies to murder.

That having been said, the anti-colonialists in Kenya did have legitimate grievances. Land allocation had been grossly unfair, and the way the economy was run by whites and Indians did sting. But communism was not the answer. It only lead to things getting even worse.

It leads to murder and chaos--which is sometimes the only way to get a boot off your neck. Then it seems to rot away and let more human processes start.

385 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:30:30pm
It’s Official New York State is the most corrupt Political State in the country.


Whoa, whoa, stop right there, you are way off message!

Chicago is the most corrupt political state EVAR! Read it, Learn it, Quote it!

386 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:31:23pm

re: #385 ausador

Whoa, whoa, stop right there, you are way off message!

Chicago is the most corrupt political state EVAR! Read it, Learn it, Quote it!

We should be hearing from Reine soon.

387 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:31:34pm

re: #379 HappyWarrior

Old School was funny.

"Blueeeee!"

388 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:32:03pm

This post left purposely blank.

389 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:32:46pm

re: #381 freetoken

Indeed, was one of the right-wing's numerous criticisms of Obama that he isn't manly enough because he was raised by his mother/grandmother?

I've never seen that one before. I've seen wingers attack his mother for being interested in "exotic men" and so fourth. And the worst is D'Souza's assine assertation that Obama's foreign policy is being driven by the ghost of his deceased father. D'Souza's a tool and a scumbag for saying that.

390 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:33:05pm

This is what sucks. D'Souza puts out racist crap and we "discuss" it intelligently. Not good.

391 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:34:39pm

re: #298 Charles

Why does it feel like Friday night, when it's only Hump Day?

Grocery stores across the country today were having a "Buy 3, Get 2 Free" special on wines.

392 Lidane  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:35:56pm

re: #383 Dark_Falcon

I'm talking about the philosophy to which his father subscribed, not the father's influence on the son.

I know that. However, D'Souza (and, by extension, Newt) are assigning the father's philosophy to the son, despite all evidence pointing to the two barely knowing each other at all.

D'Souza's racist drivel wasn't worth the time it took to read it, and that anyone is giving it any credence at all rather than just calling the guy a blatant racist tool just blows my mind. The same assholes who spent the previous eight years saying that all criticism of the President is treason are now calling the current President an "other" who isn't even American, and they're ascribing his foreign policy to beliefs that his father held, even though the two men only met once or twice at all.

393 lostlakehiker  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:40:34pm

re: #61 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

When the far-Left made similar noises and grumblings, I just laughed it off. What were they gonna do? Refuse to shower? Threaten to wear even more patchouli oil? Have a drum circle outside my window at night?

But when I hear the far-Right making similar noises and grumblings, I can't help but notice they're accompanied by the scents of gun oil and gun powder. With the way they're working themselves into a frenzy, expecting Election Day to be the icing on the cake, I worry that anything less than total victory is gonna spawn more than a little violence.

Won't happen. The Democrats can give themselves their usual 0.3 percent extra when it comes time for a recount. We're inured to it. Apart from Bush-Gore, this has become standard. But they cannot, and would not, give themselves an extra 3 percent.

Absent conclusive and widely recognized proof of widespread and outrageously brazen cheating, there's just no case for throwing a fit when you lose. Conservatives, after all, believe in winning and losing. They're the ones who snort at giving everyone a trophy. Who bridle at throwing out scores and test results so as to adjust the results to fit desires, rather than accepting a reality: somebody won, somebody lost.

When a conservative loses, even if it's a close thing [e.g. most recently NH], he just phones the winner and congratulates him (or her, in this case) and that's that.

The losers in these races will concede, and they will tell the public that the reason they lost is that the other guy got more votes. That will take all the air out of the sails of the overconfident-before-the-event, and incredulous after-the-event, crowd.

394 Lidane  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:43:12pm

re: #393 lostlakehiker

*ahem*

Two words -- Norm Coleman.

395 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:45:00pm

re: #383 Dark_Falcon

I'm looking for a way, to connect with the current generation, on items of interest that we share. Spent the day on the Huntintgton Botanic Gardens, and not into sharing much more there. LOVE them, but, don't share their direction.

396 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:45:45pm

re: #384 Decatur Deb

It leads to murder and chaos--which is sometimes the only way to get a boot off your neck. Then it seems to rot away and let more human processes start.

Kinda sounds like fun!
///

397 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:47:10pm

re: #386 Decatur Deb

We should be hearing from Reine soon.

hah.
Only in Louisiana do the politicians have enough smarts to do corruption well enough that they actually get sent to prison for it.
pfft.

398 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:47:14pm

re: #396 Floral Giraffe

Kinda sounds like fun!
///

Very messy fun for those who find themselves in it.

399 Lidane  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 7:51:12pm

re: #397 reine.de.tout

Only in Louisiana do the politicians have enough smarts to do corruption well enough that they actually get sent to prison for it.

Seriously. Louisiana has it down to an art form.

Texas has its own special brand of corruption, of course, so I can't throw stones. I'm just saying well done. ;)

400 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 8:09:46pm

D'Souza lives in a quantum world, snuggling Schroedinger's cat on his lap. The half-life of a typical D'Souza brain cell is measured in nano-seconds.

401 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 8:12:24pm

re: #395 Floral Giraffe

I'm looking for a way, to connect with the current generation, on items of interest that we share. Spent the day on the Huntintgton Botanic Gardens, and not into sharing much more there. LOVE them, but, don't share their direction.

I understand. Who was with you?

402 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 8:13:33pm

re: #400 b_sharp

D'Souza lives in a quantum world, snuggling Schroedinger's cat on his lap. The half-life of a typical D'Souza brain cell is measured in nano-seconds.

Nah, the cat realized what a tool he is and shredded his pant leg with its back claws while jumping down.

403 funky chicken  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 9:16:00pm

I'm just so happy that Karl Rove is a target of this crowd now too. I hope he enjoys all the attention from the nutjobs he so assiduously cultivated for GW Bush. Maybe the GOP will learn that the Fundie kooks aren't satisfied with a couple of seats at the table and whispered sweet nothings--they want 100% compliance. Eventually they creep enough folks out to elect Democrats in the reddest of red states.

Prime example: Kansas, Kathleen Sebelius elected governor.

I'd expect to see another democrat governor in Texas in a few years.

404 funky chicken  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 9:26:36pm

re: #123 darthstar

Heh...Maddow has a clip of O'Donnell speaking out against women in the military as being "detrimental"...that's going to leave a mark.

good grief

405 Vidiotic  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:03:57pm

The site he linked to warns us about "Radial Muslims". As opposed to steel-belted?

406 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:34:52pm

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The Amish Muslims are the most dangerous.

Aha! NOW we know why the Amish Market shows up so often when the pics are about the Evil Ground Zero Mosque! Those Evile Amish Muslims are the ones behind it all!!11ty!

407 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:39:43pm

re: #63 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Let's weigh her against a duck and find out.

/

Why a duck? Why not a chicken?

408 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:42:13pm

re: #88 HoosierHoops

LOL
Who knows what will happen soon...Moving is an adventure that nobody wants to take..I'm embracing this next chapter in my life..
You know what they say..
A rut is nothing more than a grave with both ends kicked out...

Who are "they" and why do they say so many stupid things?

I've been wondering this for about the last 35 years.

409 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 10:43:39pm

re: #101 Decatur Deb

Where's Lebowski?

Right here.

410 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Sep 15, 2010 11:29:16pm

re: #385 ausador

Whoa, whoa, stop right there, you are way off message!

Chicago is the most corrupt political state EVAR! Read it, Learn it, Quote it!

Uh, Chicago is not a state. A state of mind maybe, but not a state.

re: #386 Decatur Deb

We should be hearing from Reine soon.

Exactly my thought when I read ausador's post. However, New Jersey can give Louisiana a run for it smoney when it comes to corruption.

I live in Ohio, which has a huge amount of graft and corruption but nothing like NJ, LA, NY, IL, etc.

411 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 16, 2010 2:27:03am

re: #382 Dark_Falcon

Not really. Communism engendered artificial famines and mass murder. British Colonialism didn't involve drawing up lists of 'class enemies to murder.

It did involve massacring crowds of innocent men, women, and children, though.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

For the crime of assembling peacefully to call for Indian independence

And of course they massacred the Indians for having dared to revolt, earlier

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]


.... All the city's people found within the walls of the city of Delhi when our troops entered were bayoneted on the spot, and the number was considerable, as you may suppose, when I tell you that in some houses forty and fifty people were hiding. These were not mutineers but residents of the city, who trusted to our well-known mild rule for pardon. I am glad to say they were disappointed.
412 Timmeh  Thu, Sep 16, 2010 2:29:59am

Is an Islam Muslim anything like a Christianity Christian, Judaism Jew or Hinduism Hindu?

413 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Sep 16, 2010 7:38:05am

re: #407 ClaudeMonet

Why a duck? Why not a chicken?

Because a duck floats in water and a chicken doesn't. So if you used a chicken it wouldn't show that she's a witch because chickens don't float.

Isn't logic fun?


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