Religious Right’s Dream Team for 2012: Pence/Palin

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Family Research Council leader Tony Perkins announced the winners of the straw poll at this year’s Values Voter summit — and the fundamentalist dream team for 2012 is: Mike Pence for President, Sarah Palin for Vice President.

Mike Pence as President? Uh, OK. It’s more interesting that Palin didn’t make the cut; in fact she came in dead last in the straw poll for President, behind Pence, Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney, and Newt Gingrich, in that order. That’s not simply lack of enthusiasm — it’s a rejection.

It makes sense when you consider that one of the main agendas of the Family Research Council (and the other fundamentalist groups represented at this event) is old school patriarchy; women must be subservient to men, and a female President is just unthinkable.

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1 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 12:41:30pm

Pence/Palin 2012: Give Me That Old Time Religion!

2 cronus  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 12:42:00pm
@evanmc_s: Mike Pence actually won both VP and Prez straw polls. Palin was 2nd place finisher, promoted to winner.

Sarah Palin, forever failing upwards...

3 allegro  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 12:42:13pm

At least they offer her the VP slot... someone has to get the Pres his morning coffee.

4 Gus  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 12:45:15pm

Yes, but will they save us from the mouse people? -- Christine O'Donnell

5 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 12:48:34pm
"women must be subservient to men, and a female President is just unthinkable."

Women are just too likely to dabble into (sic) witchcraft. Imagine Sarah deciding she needs some eye of Newt for his newest hex on bin Laden.....
///

6 Idle Drifter  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 12:50:31pm

Lord Humungus/Wez 2012 Why settle for the lesser evil?

Youtube Video
7 TedStriker  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 12:50:42pm

Oy...

8 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 12:51:39pm

re: #4 Gus 802

Yes, but will they save us from the mouse people? -- Christine O'Donnell

RISE

OF THE MOUSECHINES

9 TedStriker  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 12:52:03pm

re: #6 Idle Drifter

Lord Humungus/Wez 2012 Why settle for the lesser evil?

[Video]

True...if you're going evil, go all out!

10 Ojoe  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 12:52:54pm

Here you see how, in a strange way, a Palin presidency would be a defeat for the old line theocrats.

11 engineer cat  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 12:53:50pm

Montana GOP policy: Make homosexuality illegal

but they rejected my proposal to criminalize the practice of calculus

12 Cato the Elder  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 12:54:35pm

I've never even heard of Pence before.

13 McSpiff  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 12:54:41pm

Daddy America, Mommy America...oh gawd, they all have daddy issues dont they?

14 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 12:56:01pm

re: #12 Cato the Elder

I've never even heard of Pence before.

He is pretty popular in Indiana

15 Cato the Elder  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 12:56:53pm

Pence/Palin 2012: Protecting Patriots from Proggies!

16 Gus  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 12:56:57pm

re: #11 engineer dog

Montana GOP policy: Make homosexuality illegal

but they rejected my proposal to criminalize the practice of calculus

MONTANA REPUBLICAN PARTY PLATFORM
Adopted June 19, 2010

Homosexual Acts

We support the clear will of the people of Montana expressed by legislation to keep homosexual acts illegal.

17 Ojoe  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 12:58:27pm

1958 Chevy Impala.

While we are at it, we might as well include the cars.

18 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 12:58:39pm

re: #16 Gus 802

Someone needs to tell Montana Republicans that it's okay, no gay person is actually into you guys, no need to fear

your doughy big sky masculinity is assured

19 Gus  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 12:59:36pm

re: #18 WindUpBird

Someone needs to tell Montana Republicans that it's okay, no gay person is actually into you guys, no need to fear

your doughy big sky masculinity is assured

Image: 1_DSC_0049.JPG

20 Cato the Elder  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 12:59:45pm

"Well, what we plan and what happens ain't exactly ever been similar."
--Jayne Cobb

21 Ojoe  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:01:22pm

re: #16 Gus 802

Whig position:

We ... support classifying as a federal hate crime attacks on people based on their perceived sexual orientation. In essence, the sexual orientation of the guy down the street has no bearing on anybody else's life.

22 wrenchwench  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:02:19pm
a female President is just unthinkable

As was a black president, until it happened. The future is unstoppable!

23 TedStriker  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:03:07pm

re: #12 Cato the Elder

I've never even heard of Pence before.

I had...representative from Indiana, and one that I thought might be a good one, until he opened his mouth.

24 Ojoe  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:03:33pm

re: #22 wrenchwench

It might even be Palin...

25 TedStriker  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:03:36pm

re: #22 wrenchwench

As was a black president, until it happened. The future is unstoppable!

Progress is a mutha...

26 engineer cat  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:04:07pm

Family Research Council

they don't seem to have learned very much from this research

27 Gus  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:06:03pm

re: #11 engineer dog

Montana GOP policy: Make homosexuality illegal

but they rejected my proposal to criminalize the practice of calculus

Looks like the Montana GOP is trying to wriggle their way out of this on their Facebook page. Sort of.

Question: Did the Montana Republican Party recently add a platform statement calling for homosexual acts to be illegal?

Answer: That position is in the current platform, but saying that we "added" it at our Platform convention in June 2010 is a commonly held misunderstanding. It has actually been there since the mid-nineties. At the time, homosexual acts were illegal, and the Montana Supreme Court struck that law down. The plank was added at the time because delegates to the convention did not support the Supreme Court changing the law.

Question: Why is it still there?

Answer: The Montana Republican Platform is not re-written every two years. Rather, we take the old platform, and delegates are allowed to change anything they can get a majority of delegates to vote for. That platform statement is still in the platform because none of the delegates from 2010, 2008, 2004, or before introduced an effort to change it.

Question: Will you change it?

Answer: The next Platform convention will happen in 2012. Delegates may bring up an effort to remove or change that platform statement then. Many probable delegates have already expressed an interest in doing so.

Question: Isn't there any way to change it right now?

Answer: The by-laws of the Montana Republican Party create only one legal way for us to change our platform: at a platform convention, which is held every even numbered year. Many potential platform delegates have expressed an interest in changing that statement, but there is no way for them to do that until the 2012 Platform Convention.

Question: Can't you just change it right now?

Answer: Party staff do not have a vote on the platform. Except for members of our staff or leadership who are also members of their county central committees, we don't get a say. A member of the party staff could open the web site for editing and strike out that sentence about homosexual acts, but it would not change the platform. Legally, the platform would still include that statement about homosexual acts.

29 CuriousLurker  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:06:40pm

re: #13 McSpiff

McSpiff, aren't you the one who mentioned having created a script to hide comments here? I'd be interested in having it if you're still willing to share.

30 wrenchwench  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:07:10pm

re: #21 Ojoe

Whig position:

We ... support classifying as a federal hate crime attacks on people based on their perceived sexual orientation. In essence, the sexual orientation of the guy down the street has no bearing on anybody else's life.

Here's the whole thing.

Same Sex Relationships

Each state can determine the extended rights of same sex couples based on their own local values. We do, however, support classifying as a federal hate crime attacks on people based on their perceived sexual orientation. In essence, the sexual orientation of the guy down the street has no bearing on anybody else's life.

31 Ojoe  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:08:00pm

A rockin' out version of "Give Me That Old Time Religion!"


Enjoy!

32 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:08:14pm

re: #24 Ojoe

It might even be Palin...

Nationally, Palin has very high disapproval numbers.. She will never be POTUS

33 McSpiff  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:08:49pm

re: #29 CuriousLurker

McSpiff, aren't you the one who mentioned having created a script to hide comments here? I'd be interested in having it if you're still willing to share.

I certainly did, easiest spot to get it from is: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...] . If people are interested, I may add a few more features (have it work with the auto comments is a big one...)

34 ClaudeMonet  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:09:16pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

Ex-Senator Calls Out 'Racist Bullsh*t' on Fox Business Network


[Video]

And a Republican ex-Senator at that! D'Amato is a worthless POS otherwise, and when it comes to bullshit he's an expert, but props to him on this one.

35 CuriousLurker  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:09:57pm

re: #33 McSpiff

I certainly did, easiest spot to get it from is: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...] . If people are interested, I may add a few more features (have it work with the auto comments is a big one...)

Thank youuuuu! {{{McSpiff}}}

36 Ojoe  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:10:10pm

re: #30 wrenchwench

Yes I know it is not all the way radical.

It is way better than the GOP.

37 TedStriker  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:11:33pm

re: #24 Ojoe

It might even be Palin...

G-d, I hope not...talk about screwed. For all the things a lot of people on the left said about W being a moron and a puppet of Cheney (which I don't agree with), Palin really would be that bad and worse, IMO. She's vapid, vindictive, and completely ignorant of history...she'd be a total trainwreck.

38 McSpiff  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:12:05pm

re: #35 CuriousLurker

Thank youuu! {{{McSpiff}}}

Heh no problem... keep an eye on my Pages, I think I'll add a couple more features and then throw it on there.

39 wrenchwench  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:12:10pm

re: #36 Ojoe

Yes I know it is not all the way radical acceptable.

FTFMe.

It is way better than the GOP.

True. But I bet the Democrat's position is even better. Any of you Dems have the platform handy?

40 Gus  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:12:38pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

Ex-Senator Calls Out 'Racist Bullsh*t' on Fox Business Network


[Video]

Right on D'Amato! Woohoo! Excellent!

41 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:15:39pm

re: #40 Gus 802

Right on D'Amato! Woohoo! Excellent!

It's also interesting that the douchebag also makes the connection between unions and people with "Nigerian" skill sets and work ethics.

42 Gus  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:17:48pm

re: #41 Killgore Trout

It's also interesting that the douchebag also makes the connection between unions and people with "Nigerian" skill sets and work ethics.

Yeah, and that idiot is a GOP strategist. Jack Burkman and this already made Wiki:

On September 17, 2010, on an episode of Fox Business News, Burkman called for the abolition of funding for the United States Postal Service and claimed "most of these guys working in the Post Office should be driving cabs, and I think we should stop importing labor from Nigeria and Ethiopia." A fellow guest, Senator Alphonse d'Amato called Burkman's comments "racist bullshit."

43 CuriousLurker  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:19:26pm

re: #38 McSpiff

Heh no problem... keep an eye on my Pages, I think I'll add a couple more features and then throw it on there.

Definitely will do.

44 bratwurst  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:20:12pm

Campaign theme song?

Youtube Video
45 Lidane  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:20:50pm

re: #12 Cato the Elder

I've never even heard of Pence before.

Same here, but if he won the "Values Voter" straw poll, I won't vote for him anyway. I'm not about to support anyone these lunatics approve of.

46 engineer cat  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:24:26pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

Ex-Senator Calls Out 'Racist Bullsh*t' on Fox Business Network


[Video]

and also really shocking that the fox news talking face asshole is calling people "unskilled labor that should be pushed down to blue collar work" or "reassigned to cab driving"

i'd like to 'reassign' him to some meaningful worthwhile productive physical labor instead of his current job as a wart on the ass of society being a corporate whore and professional ignoramus

47 Gus  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:25:28pm

re: #46 engineer dog

and also really shocking that the fox news talking face asshole is calling people "unskilled labor that should be pushed down to blue collar work" or "reassigned to cab driving"

i'd like to 'reassign' him to some meaningful worthwhile productive physical labor instead of his current job as a wart on the ass of society being a corporate whore and professional ignoramus

But the wingnuts wouldn't think that's elitist.

48 allegro  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:26:16pm

re: #46 engineer dog

Well done!

49 jaunte  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:28:28pm

re: #41 Killgore Trout

It's also interesting that the douchebag also makes the connection between unions and people with "Nigerian" skill sets and work ethics.


Here's what the douchebag has been reading. It's right out of a recent American Renaissance post (cached ) about the top 10 occupations with the largest percentage of African American workers.

50 engineer cat  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:29:23pm

re: #48 allegro

thank you!

51 recusancy  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:29:40pm

re: #12 Cato the Elder

I've never even heard of Pence before.

This is when I became aware of him.

52 pharmmajor  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:30:17pm

My dream ticket is Penn & Teller for 2012.

53 ClaudeMonet  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:30:37pm

re: #46 engineer dog

and also really shocking that the fox news talking face asshole is calling people "unskilled labor that should be pushed down to blue collar work" or "reassigned to cab driving"

i'd like to 'reassign' him to some meaningful worthwhile productive physical labor instead of his current job as a wart on the ass of society being a corporate whore and professional ignoramus

Let's assign him to NYC cab driving and see how well he gets along, especially with his fellow drivers.

54 darthstar  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:31:23pm

Heh...Charles said "straw pull"...oh, that was poll, never mind.

55 Lidane  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:31:29pm

re: #51 recusancy

This is when I became aware of him.

Oh god. He's THAT idiot? I remember that story.

56 Kragar  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:32:15pm

re: #52 pharmmajor

My dream ticket is Penn & Teller for 2012.

I'm pulling for Zombie Apocalyose to render the whole situtation moot.

57 ClaudeMonet  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:33:02pm

re: #49 jaunte

Here's what the douchebag has been reading. It's right out of a recent American Renaissance post (cached ) about the top 10 occupations with the largest percentage of African American workers.

The most disturbing numbers on the two lists to me are the low percentages of African-Americans among dentists and reporters.

58 wrenchwench  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:33:25pm
In recent months I have spoken many times about how difficult and dangerous a period it is through which we now move. I would like to take this opportunity to say a word about the American spirit in this time of trial.

In the most critical periods of our nation's history, there have always been those fringes of our society who have sought to escape their own responsibility by finding a simple solution, an appealing slogan, or a convenient scapegoat.

[...]

Now we are face to face once again with a period of heightened peril. The risks are great, the burdens heavy, the problems incapable of swift or lasting solution. And under the strains and frustrations imposed by constant tension and harassment, the discordant voices of extremism are heard once again in the land. Men who are unwilling to face up to the danger from without are convinced that the real danger comes from within. They look suspiciously at their neighbors and their leaders.

[...]

So let us not heed these counsels of fear and suspicion. Let us concentrate more on keeping enemy bombers and missiles away from our shores, and concentrate less on keeping neighbors away from our shelters. Let us devote more energy to organize the free and friendly nations of the world, with common trade and strategic goals, and devote less energy to organizing armed bands of civilian guerrillas that are more likely to supply local vigilantes than national vigilance.

Let our patriotism be reflected in the creation of confidence rather than crusades of suspicion. Let us prove we think our country great by striving to make it greater. And, above all, let us remember that, however serious the outlook, the one great irreversible trend in world history is on the side of liberty -- and so, for all time to come, are we.

John F. Kennedy, November 18, 1961

59 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:33:30pm

re: #49 jaunte

Here's what the douchebag has been reading. It's right out of a recent American Renaissance post (cached ) about the top 10 occupations with the largest percentage of African American workers.

Very interesting. That was posted just a few days ago.

60 bratwurst  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:33:47pm

re: #52 pharmmajor

My dream ticket is Penn & Teller for 2012.

Never have to worry about the VP saying something stupid or inflammatory, that is for sure!

61 Lidane  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:34:04pm

re: #56 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm pulling for Zombie Apocalyose to render the whole situtation moot.

When Zombies attack, my main priority is finding Bruce Campbell.

Heh.

62 ClaudeMonet  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:34:17pm

re: #52 pharmmajor

My dream ticket is Penn & Teller for 2012.

I'd vote for that over most if not all of the current candidates. Teller has the "shut up" part of "you're the VP, now shut up and go away" down pat.

63 jaunte  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:38:12pm

re: #57 ClaudeMonet
Something that AmRen doesn't include from their source document,
Labor Force Characteristics by Race and Ethnicity, 2009 (U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics).

In general, the labor market problems experienced by
Blacks and Hispanics are associated with many factors, not
all of which are measurable. Some of these factors include
a tendency to be employed in occupations with high levels
of unemployment, lower average levels of schooling, greater
concentration in the central cities of urban areas where job
opportunities may be relatively limited, and the likelihood of
discrimination in the workplace. These factors and others may
help explain the acute labor market difficulties Blacks and
Hispanics encounter, especially during economic downturns.

64 Cato the Elder  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:42:15pm

re: #49 jaunte

Nice comments there, too.

Number 1:

"Wasn’t it true way down south that most blacks had the occupation of share cropper? What ever happened to that? Gone with the wind I guess."

I hate sharing a country with these people.

65 ClaudeMonet  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:46:05pm

re: #63 jaunte

Something that AmRen doesn't include from their source document,
Labor Force Characteristics by Race and Ethnicity, 2009 (U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics).

I attended an urban high school, with my graduating class around 60-65% black. When my classmates started work, got married, and started having kids, some of them felt guilty about leaving the neighborhoods in which they grew up. Whenever they'd tell me about that guilt, I told them, "For the sake of your kids and yourselves, you need to get out of there. They need the opportunities you wanted but didn't get, or had to fight like hell to get."

Thirty-plus years after graduation, a few of them thank me for the advice, and nothing makes me prouder than how well some of their kids are doing. I don't take credit for anything more than voicing what they already knew deep down.

66 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:47:13pm

re: #64 Cato the Elder

Nice comments there, too.

Number 1:

"Wasn’t it true way down south that most blacks had the occupation of share cropper? What ever happened to that? Gone with the wind I guess."


I hate sharing a country with these people.

You forgot the racist wingnut response drill:

First Wingnut: "I don't see anything racist in that!"
Second WN: "It was just meant in jest"
Third WN: "I have black friends!"
Fourth WN: "First Amendment Rights!!!"

67 Kragar  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:47:13pm

re: #61 Lidane

When Zombies attack, my main priority is finding Bruce Campbell.

Heh.

Bad idea. While Bruce has a good record of survival, those around him usually don't fair as well.

68 jaunte  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:49:02pm

re: #64 Cato the Elder

I wonder which one of the comments is from an R. S. McCain sockpuppet.

69 ClaudeMonet  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 1:54:39pm

re: #64 Cato the Elder

Nice comments there, too.

Number 1:

I hate sharing a country with these people.

I hadn't read the comments until just now. Good grief.

Aw, fuck it, enough with being nice and saying, "Good grief." These people are ignorant, mean racists who would do the world a great favor if they would just DIE, preferably taking some of their kind with them and without reproducing.

70 TedStriker  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 2:23:35pm

re: #64 Cato the Elder

Nice comments there, too.

Number 1:

I hate sharing a country with these people.

I say we ship the bigots and xenophobes to Siberia...

71 celticdragon  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 4:04:36pm

re: #16 Gus 802

MONTANA REPUBLICAN PARTY PLATFORM
Adopted June 19, 2010

So much for the party of individual liberty and keeping government out of private affairs.

72 Lidane  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 4:07:57pm

re: #71 celticdragon

So much for the party of individual liberty and keeping government out of private affairs.

Pfft. That only counts if you're white, straight, Christian, male, and Republican. If you're not all of those things, then individual liberty and keeping the government out of private affairs don't apply to you.

/2010 GOP

73 lostlakehiker  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 4:49:12pm

If the GOP had someone of the stature of Thatcher, it'd be another story. The FRC just doesn't see PALIN as presidential timber. For some odd reason.

74 Vidiotic  Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:59:34am

Pence has a real chance at the nomination. My father, who passed away last year, lived in Muncie where Pence's district is based. Dad hated that "two-faced ***wipe" as he'd had dealings with him through local politics. The real problem with Pence is that he's not a RINO, he actually believes the party line. He's a stereotype of the central Indiana "Christians". Basically a bunch of hillbillies not smart enough to find any hills. (I was born there, my family is there, I know of what I speak) They are as polite as can be, but the exterior covers up true racism and an astounding disregard for facts. There are, of course, exceptions to the rule, but they usually stay quiet or they're ostracized in the community. My Dad worked for union causes and Democratic issues for most of his adult life, and people like Mike Pence were what he fought hardest. He'll be a tough challenger, probably their most viable, but the man is a Republican party hack with Tea Party qualities.

75 [deleted]  Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:07:37pm

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