The Christine O’Donnell-William Burroughs Convergence

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It turns out Christine O’Donnell is no crazier than Hunter S. Thompson: Christine O’Donnell, Queen of Modern Literature.

For more than a week now, much of America has been mocking the Delaware GOP Senate candidate as a Bible-thumping ignoramus. Yes, she’s said some nutty things — enough to call her a sideshow freak — but it’s a thin line between madness and genius. When you compare her oeuvre to the modern canon of English letters, you might even realize she’s no crazier than some of our most beloved wordsmiths.

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1 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:00:19pm

yeah but I bet she got that way without having to take a lot of acid. Thus she is worse….she’s naturally nucking-futs.

2 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:02:48pm

Yo, Hunter Thompson is the man!

3 darthstar  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:02:49pm

First we have Shakespalin, and now we’ve got a masturbating Hunter S Thompson who used to fuck on bloody altars?

What next?

4 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:04:17pm

re: #3 darthstar

more like a Hunter S Thompson who is against masturbation but fucked on bloody altars.

5 windsagio  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:04:39pm

Is there any evidence that her witchcraft was anything other than having a Ouija board scream when she tried to burn it?

6 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:04:49pm

re: #4 Dreggas

more like a Hunter S Thompson who is against masturbation but fucked on bloody altars.

bloody fuckin right.

7 darthstar  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:05:23pm

re: #4 Dreggas

more like a Hunter S Thompson who is against masturbation but fucked on bloody altars.

Thank you for correcting me, my apologies…I forgot she’s anti-masturbation…must have been the goat head she had her legs wrapped around that confused me.

8 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:05:32pm

re: #5 windsagio

Is there any evidence that her witchcraft was anything other than having a Ouija board scream when she tried to burn it?

she turned me into a newt…

9 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:06:14pm

re: #5 windsagio

Is there any evidence that her witchcraft was anything other than having a Ouija board scream when she tried to burn it?

She says something about blood on an altar. It’s possible that some asshole high school kid gutted a rat or something on an ‘altar’. It’s also possible that her gullible high-school-aged self believed the crap her ‘high priestess’ girlfriend (also aged sixteen) told her, and there was no actual blood.

10 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:06:21pm

re: #5 windsagio

she probably tried burning a “My pet monster” and thought it was demon possessed when it wouldn’t burn but never noticed the tag saying “Fire resistant”.

11 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:06:27pm

re: #8 brookly red

she turned me into a newt…

Did you get betta?

12 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:06:31pm

re: #2 brookly red

Yo, Hunter Thompson is the man!

Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas was a painful to sit through.

13 windsagio  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:06:50pm

re: #9 SanFranciscoZionist

She says something about blood on an altar. It’s possible that some asshole high school kid gutted a rat or something on an ‘altar’. It’s also possible that her gullible high-school-aged self believed the crap her ‘high priestess’ girlfriend (also aged sixteen) told her, and there was no actual blood.

Dude, I had friends like that!

14 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:07:03pm

re: #7 darthstar

it was a horny goat

15 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:07:51pm

re: #13 windsagio

Dude, I had friends like that!

I didn’t in high school—I hung out with the studious Asian kids with the filthy minds—but I met them when I went to college.

16 sagehen  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:08:15pm

re: #8 brookly red

she turned me into a newt…

OMG! The gingrich kind? That’s awful!!1!eleventy

17 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:08:24pm

re: #11 SanFranciscoZionist

Did you get betta?

no I am still a lizard… bitch like that.

18 Reginald Perrin  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:08:30pm

re: #9 SanFranciscoZionist

She says something about blood on an altar. It’s possible that some asshole high school kid gutted a rat or something on an ‘altar’. It’s also possible that her gullible high-school-aged self believed the crap her ‘high priestess’ girlfriend (also aged sixteen) told her, and there was no actual blood.

Or it’s possible she made the whole thing up.

19 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:08:40pm

re: #9 SanFranciscoZionist

she probably knows little to nothing about Wicca (aka witchcraft) that she didn’t learn from some pat robertson expose. Thats the thing about these fundies, they have no freaking clue what being Wiccan is or what witchcraft actually is but will gladly make up bogeyman stories to further their cause.

20 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:09:06pm

re: #16 sagehen

OMG! The gingrich kind? That’s awful!!1!eleventy

no Obama did that :)

21 windsagio  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:09:59pm

re: #15 SanFranciscoZionist

All my friends were witchy. Ask WUB >>

22 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:12:24pm

re: #21 windsagio

All my friends were witchy. Ask WUB >>

were? what happened to them?

23 darthstar  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:12:26pm

The bar beckons…bbl

24 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:13:13pm

re: #18 Reginald Perrin

Or it’s possible she made the whole thing up.

True, but this kind of kid-stuff dark-arts crap does get ‘dabbled into’ by some high school kids. Ouija-board type fooling around, sitting in graveyards.

She could just be lying, or this could be based on some real adolescent experience that a normal person would know was stupid and meaningless in retrospect and not go talking about.

25 windsagio  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:13:36pm

re: #22 brookly red

were? what happened to them?

They grew up :D

26 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:14:15pm

re: #25 windsagio

They grew up :D

I thought maybe they were burned at the stake.

27 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:16:17pm

Man, I’m going nuts trying to set up a wireless network with an Airport Extreme master and two Airport Express stations. It worked fine with just one Airport Express in ‘Extend a wireless network’ mode - my mistake was thinking I could just add a second Express easily to extend the network into an upstairs area with poor connectivity.

Anyone out there have any experience with an Airport Extreme connected to a cable modem with Ethernet, and more than one Airport Express wireless extenders?

Right now, after messing with it most of the afternoon, I have the Airport Utility recognizing both Expresses, but I couldn’t set both in ‘Extend’ mode - I had to set one in ‘Extend’ mode and the other in ‘Join a wireless network’ mode. They’re all showing up, but I’m not sure I’m actually doing things the best way.

28 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:16:46pm

re: #26 Mr Pancakes

I thought maybe they were burned at the stake.

To hear some of my college friends tell it, it was a near thing.

29 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:17:08pm

re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist

True, but this kind of kid-stuff dark-arts crap does get ‘dabbled into’ by some high school kids. Ouija-board type fooling around, sitting in graveyards.

She could just be lying, or this could be based on some real adolescent experience that a normal person would know was stupid and meaningless in retrospect and not go talking about.

listen good. I sell a lot of Palin voo-doo dolls every week right here on this site… and what you are saying could hurt my business. we wouldn’t want that now would we?

30 nines09  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:18:20pm

Sure. You bet. Nice way to defame Hunter who’s not here to defend himself.

31 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:18:21pm

re: #29 brookly red

listen good. I sell a lot of Palin voo-doo dolls every week right here on this site… and what you are saying could hurt my business. we wouldn’t want that now would we?

Well, hell, that’s different! Voodoo is like, all African and indigenous and stuff—it’s real hard core, yadadamean? That stuff, like totally, is serious and, you know, real.

//

32 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:18:34pm

Going to nap now.

33 windsagio  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:18:52pm

re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist

True, but this kind of kid-stuff dark-arts crap does get ‘dabbled into’ by some high school kids. Ouija-board type fooling around, sitting in graveyards.

She could just be lying, or this could be based on some real adolescent experience that a normal person would know was stupid and meaningless in retrospect and not go talking about.

One of my memories is going into a ruin (I have no idea what it was originally to this day, but we called it Hell Town), and one of my friends trying to do osme kind of ritual with candles and some book or other and all that crap.

No sacrifices tho’.

34 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:19:19pm

re: #27 Charles

Man, I’m going nuts trying to set up a wireless network with an Airport Extreme master and two Airport Express stations. It worked fine with just one Airport Express in ‘Extend a wireless network’ mode - my mistake was thinking I could just add a second Express easily to extend the network into an upstairs area with poor connectivity.

Anyone out there have any experience with an Airport Extreme connected to a cable modem with Ethernet, and more than one Airport Express wireless extenders?

Right now, after messing with it most of the afternoon, I have the Airport Utility recognizing both Expresses, but I couldn’t set both in ‘Extend’ mode - I had to set one in ‘Extend’ mode and the other in ‘Join a wireless network’ mode. They’re all showing up, but I’m not sure I’m actually doing things the best way.

Get a PC.

35 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:20:49pm

re: #33 windsagio

One of my memories is going into a ruin (I have no idea what it was originally to this day, but we called it Hell Town), and one of my friends trying to do osme kind of ritual with candles and some book or other and all that crap.

No sacrifices tho’.

dude get with the program you can hope all you want but change requires sacrifice…

36 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:22:00pm

re: #35 brookly red

dude get with the program you can hope all you want but change requires sacrifice…

Yea…. I know….. I got a pay cut.

37 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:23:12pm

Man. These people have got to stop reading, and believing, their own press releases.

38 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:23:18pm

re: #36 Mr Pancakes

Yea… I know… I got a pay cut.

you ain’t seen nothing yet…

39 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:24:30pm

re: #38 brookly red

you ain’t seen nothing yet…

But I’m not worried…… I take Zoloft!

40 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:26:15pm

re: #35 brookly red

dude get with the program you can hope all you want but change requires sacrifice…

i sacrificed a goat to ba’al but nothing much seems to have changed yet

41 Reginald Perrin  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:26:30pm

re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist

She was a frequent guest on Politically Incorrect. I am guessing it wasn’t her intellect that got her re-booked time after time, it was the crazy things she said. It will be interesting to see what Bill Mahr has to share with us before the election.

42 EdDantes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:27:34pm

In the words of Bobby Burns:

My son, these maxims make a rule,
An’ lump them ay thegither:
The Rigid Righteous is a fool,
The Rigid Wise anither;

43 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:27:44pm

re: #39 Mr Pancakes

But I’m not worried… I take Zoloft!

thats good… you have WV (willing victim) status. I may just keep you outta the fema camps…

44 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:28:40pm

re: #40 engineer dog

i sacrificed a goat to ba’al but nothing much seems to have changed yet

just wait till January…

45 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:29:18pm

re: #43 brookly red

thats good… you have WV (willing victim) status. I may just keep you outta the fema camps…

Willing victims have all the fun……. I love camping!

46 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:30:17pm

re: #41 Reginald Perrin

She was a frequent guest on Politically Incorrect. I am guessing it wasn’t her intellect that got her re-booked time after time, it was the crazy things she said. It will be interesting to see what Bill Mahr has to share with us before the election.

I haven’t paid enough attention to know why she has been on tv so long. Anyone else know?

47 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:30:30pm

re: #45 Mr Pancakes

Willing victims have all the fun… I love camping!

just cut the banjo music will ya?

48 rwmofo  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:32:10pm

So we’re talking about this guy’s Senate seat, right. A mannequin would be an upgrade. Heh.

49 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:32:25pm

re: #42 EdDantes

In the words of Bobby Burns:

My son, these maxims make a rule,
An’ lump them ay thegither:
The Rigid Righteous is a fool,
The Rigid Wise anither;

Mickey Dolenz vocals here……. (wink)

I thought love was more or less a givin’ thing
Seems the more I gave the less I got
What’s the use in trying?
All you get is pain
When I needed sunshine I got rain

50 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:32:55pm

re: #44 brookly red

just wait till January…

ba’al tells me he is angry at you because you haven’t told him what your sacrifice will be

51 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:34:40pm

re: #50 engineer dog

ba’al tells me he is angry at you because you haven’t told him what your sacrifice will be

why you of course…

52 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:35:00pm

re: #47 brookly red

just cut the banjo music will ya?

NO!!!!!!!!!!

Youtube Video

53 EdDantes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:35:53pm

re: #49 Mr Pancakes

Good catch! The words of “I’m a believer” are by Neil Diamond.

54 PT Barnum  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:36:22pm

re: #48 rwmofo

So we’re talking about this guy’s Senate seat, right. A mannequin would be an upgrade. Heh.

But then O’Donnell makes a Mannequin look like a genius…it at least has the good sense to remain silent and let people think it’s a fool.

55 PT Barnum  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:36:52pm

re: #52 Mr Pancakes

NO!!!


[Video]

The Teaparty Theme song.

56 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:37:02pm

re: #53 EdDantes

Good catch! The words of “I’m a believer” are by Neil Diamond.

That’s why I said “vocals”…….. I was very careful there.

57 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:37:03pm

re: #53 EdDantes

Good catch! The words of “I’m a believer” are by Neil Diamond.

Dang… and all this time I thought it was Abraham.

58 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:37:39pm

re: #55 PT Barnum

The Teaparty Theme song.

They are going to have to pay me royalties then.

59 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:38:38pm

Furnishings for the mass…

—-

IN THE EAST , that is, in the direction of Boleskine, which is situated on the South-Eastern shore of Loch Ness in Scotland, two miles east of Foyers, is a shrine or High Altar. Its dimensions should be 7 feet in length, 3 feet in breadth, 44 inches in height. It should be covered with a crimson altar-cloth, on which may be embroidered fleur-de-lys in gold, or a sunblaze, or other suitable emblem. [On the Altar are placed the Priest’s Robe and Crown.]

On each side of it should be a pillar or obelisk , with countercharges in black and white.

Below it should be the dais of three steps , in black and white squares.

Above it is the super-altar , at whose top is the Stèle of Revealing in reproduction, with four candles on each side of it. Below the stèle is a place for The Book of the Law , with six candles on each side of it. Below this again is the Holy Graal , with roses on each side of it. There is room in front of the Cup for the Paten . On each side beyond the roses are two great candles . [NOTE]

All this is enclosed within a great Veil.

Forming the apex of an equilateral triangle whose base is a line drawn between the pillars, is a small black square altar, of superimposed cubes.

Taking this altar as the middle of the base of a similar and equal triangle, at the apex of this second triangle is a small circular font.

Repeating, the apex of a third triangle is an upright coffin, or Tomb.

—-

(If your going to do it, do it right)

I wonder how many of you have actually been to a real ceremony like the one that O’Donnell is trying to imply she attended. Her bullshit sounds like kids playing.

If anyone is in the Denver area, and want’s to attend a real Black Mass, or a Gnostic Mass, let me know.

60 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:38:48pm

re: #51 brookly red

why you of course…

error, spotless goat not found!

pleasing ba’al fail!

61 EdDantes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:39:08pm

re: #56 Mr Pancakes

That’s why I said “vocals”… I was very careful there.

Indeed you were. :)

62 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:40:10pm

re: #60 engineer dog

error, spotless goat not found!

pleasing ba’al fail!

ahh wrong! extra points for irony…

63 rwmofo  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:40:46pm

Does anyone else think it’s downright comical to witness the infatuation the media/left has for Christine O’Donnell while a much bigger story ought to be the stampede of independent voters heading right? The media/democrat party is serving up the House of Representatives to the Republicans on a silver platter, but we should pay attention to one race? This is hilarious!

64 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:41:54pm

re: #59 Walter L. Newton

[snip]

I wonder how many of you have actually been to a real ceremony like the one that O’Donnell is trying to imply she attended. Her bullshit sounds like kids playing.

If anyone is in the Denver area, and want’s to attend a real Black Mass, or a Gnostic Mass, let me know.

P.S. And if there is any takers to attend, virgins get to go to the front of the line. Virgins are really a problem to find now a days.

65 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:42:29pm

re: #63 rwmofo

Does anyone else think it’s downright comical to witness the infatuation the media/left has for Christine O’Donnell while a much bigger story ought to be the stampede of independent voters heading right? The media/democrat party is serving up the House of Representatives to the Republicans on a silver platter, but we should pay attention to one race? This is hilarious!

STFU you will wake the kids…

66 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:42:54pm

re: #49 Mr Pancakes

Mickey Dolenz vocals here… (wink)


When I needed sunshine I got rain

I’m glad I posted that… for 40 years I thought he said “When I needed sunshine on my brain”.

67 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:42:59pm

No one has any idea where O’Donnell came from or how she’s managed to be on talk shows now for over a decade? How did she get picked out of the crowd to be a talking head on cable? Why do you folks want me to have to do the research on my own?

68 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:43:10pm

re: #65 brookly red

STFU you will wake the kids…

It will dull the pain, take the edge off of the coming disappointment, let them have fun.

69 AlexRogan  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:43:58pm

re: #49 Mr Pancakes

Mickey Dolenz vocals here… (wink)

I thought love was more or less a givin’ thing
Seems the more I gave the less I got
What’s the use in trying?
All you get is pain
When I needed sunshine I got rain

Written by Neil Diamond…

Youtube Video

70 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:44:43pm

re: #63 rwmofo

Does anyone else think it’s downright comical to witness the infatuation the media/left has for Christine O’Donnell while a much bigger story ought to be the stampede of independent voters heading right? The media/democrat party is serving up the House of Representatives to the Republicans on a silver platter, but we should pay attention to one race? This is hilarious!

I laugh a couple of times a day at people saying there’s no good reason to be making fun of O’Donnell.

71 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:45:14pm

re: #69 talon_262

Written by Neil Diamond…


[Video]

Yes yes a thousand time yes!!!!!!! That’s why I said “vocals”…… I knew Neil wrote that song.

72 AlexRogan  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:45:30pm

re: #71 Mr Pancakes

Yes yes a thousand time yes!!! That’s why I said “vocals”… I knew Neil wrote that song.

LOL!

73 EdDantes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:46:34pm

re: #66 Mr Pancakes

For many years I thought CCR was saying. ” There’s a bathroom on the right”.

74 PT Barnum  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:47:17pm

re: #63 rwmofo

Does anyone else think it’s downright comical to witness the infatuation the media/left has for Christine O’Donnell while a much bigger story ought to be the stampede of independent voters heading right? The media/democrat party is serving up the House of Representatives to the Republicans on a silver platter, but we should pay attention to one race? This is hilarious!

Except that the media is starting to come to the realization how guanomanic the GOP has allowed its candidate pool to become. This is not going to be particularly good for the GOP as they were hoping nobody was paying attention.

The moderate independents are more likely to vote Democrat than they are batshit crazy.

75 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:47:31pm

re: #68 Walter L. Newton

It will dull the pain, take the edge off of the coming disappointment, let them have fun.

of course… of course.

76 rwmofo  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:47:43pm

Oh boy. It’s getting worse. Looks like the polls indicate that voters trust the democrat party almost as much as Mrs Clinton trusts Bill backstage at a Hooters Bikini Contest.

77 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:48:31pm

re: #68 Walter L. Newton
re: #65 brookly red

STFU you will wake the kids…

It will dull the pain, take the edge off of the coming disappointment, let them have fun.

see chickens, unhatched

78 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:49:10pm

re: #18 Reginald Perrin

Or it’s possible she made the whole thing up.

Then she’s a liar. That’s not much better, she still loses behind that.

79 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:49:19pm

1. Scrambled Oeuvers.

2. Poached Oeuvers.

3. Hard Boiled Oeuvers.

80 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:49:47pm

re: #76 rwmofo

Oh boy. It’s getting worse. Looks like the polls indicate that voters trust the democrat party almost as much as Mrs Clinton trusts Bill backstage at a Hooters Bikini Contest.

And what does that poll show… wrong direction because of the GOP… wrong direction because of WHAT? The poll is worthless.

81 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:49:48pm

re: #76 rwmofo

Oh boy. It’s getting worse. Looks like the polls indicate that voters trust the democrat party almost as much as Mrs Clinton trusts Bill backstage at a Hooters Bikini Contest.

ROFLMAO

82 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:50:26pm

re: #79 Ojoe

1. Scrambled Oeuvers.

2. Poached Oeuvers.

3. Hard Boiled Oeuvers.

I like Oeuvers on the half shell with a splash of Tabasco and a smidgen of horseradish.

83 EdDantes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:50:48pm

re: #76 rwmofo

That’s good.

84 Vambo  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:50:50pm

re: #9 SanFranciscoZionist

She says something about blood on an altar. It’s possible that some asshole high school kid gutted a rat or something on an ‘altar’. It’s also possible that her gullible high-school-aged self believed the crap her ‘high priestess’ girlfriend (also aged sixteen) told her, and there was no actual blood.

I get it now - Christine was Robin Tunney in The Craft… I knew that movie was real. /

85 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:50:58pm

re: #79 Ojoe

1. Scrambled Oeuvers.

2. Poached Oeuvers.

3. Hard Boiled Oeuvers.

That reminds me… only 3 1/2 months till I return to Paris… and yes… I’m bragging…

86 Reginald Perrin  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:51:12pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Do you really believe she never ever masturbates?

87 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:51:17pm

re: #74 PT Barnum

Except that the media is starting to come to the realization how guanomanic the GOP has allowed its candidate pool to become. This is not going to be particularly good for the GOP as they were hoping nobody was paying attention.

The moderate independents are more likely to vote Democrat than they are batshit crazy.

Dig this… no one cares about party affiliation any more. The biggest voting block is un or under employed… the rain will fall and it is all about the economy.

88 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:51:25pm

re: #82 Mr Pancakes

Oeverderves.

89 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:51:27pm

re: #76 rwmofo

Oh boy. It’s getting worse. Looks like the polls indicate that voters trust the democrat party almost as much as Mrs Clinton trusts Bill backstage at a Hooters Bikini Contest.

My best friend told me today that Feingold in down double digits. It looks like both Illinois and Wisconsin will see a Democratic Senate seat go Republican this fall.

[does the Happy Dance]

90 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:52:07pm

re: #85 Walter L. Newton

That reminds me… only 3 1/2 months till I return to Paris… and yes… I’m bragging…

Paris Texas?

91 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:52:17pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

Why are you happy about the current GOP gaining power, Dark, given what they have been doing?

92 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:52:25pm

re: #86 Reginald Perrin

Do you really believe she never ever masturbates?

I believe her about as far as I can toss the Big Mo.

93 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:52:26pm

re: #87 brookly red

guanomanic


Extra fine word.

94 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:53:21pm

re: #90 Mr Pancakes

Paris Texas?

Yea right.

95 rwmofo  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:53:23pm

re: #86 Reginald Perrin

Do you really believe she never ever masturbates?

Politicians have a large staff. She probably delegates it.

96 Vambo  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:53:53pm

Hahaha.

So we’re fixated on “one race”? Which one is that?

Could be O’Donnell, Paladino, Angle, Paul, maybe Fiorina… who else am I missing?

GOP = high quality candidates. Throw the Dems out! GOP! GOP!

97 PT Barnum  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:54:24pm

re: #87 brookly red

Dig this… no one cares about party affiliation any more. The biggest voting block is un or under employed… the rain will fall and it is all about the economy.

And how exactly does voting a bunch of ignorant crazy pants into office solve this particular problem?

98 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:54:45pm

re: #85 Walter L. Newton

That reminds me… only 3 1/2 months till I return to Paris… and yes… I’m bragging…

uggg, what a cow town… the subway shuts down at 11:00.

99 PT Barnum  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:55:06pm

re: #95 rwmofo

Politicians have a large staff. She probably delegates it.

probably don’t want to respond if she asks for a hand…

100 Vambo  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:55:26pm

re: #96 Vambo

Hahaha.

So we’re fixated on “one race”? Which one is that?

Could be O’Donnell, Paladino, Angle, Paul, maybe Fiorina… who else am I missing?

GOP = high quality candidates. Throw the Dems out! GOP! GOP!

Do a happy dance!

101 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:55:31pm

re: #91 Obdicut

Why are you happy about the current GOP gaining power, Dark, given what they have been doing?

Because the Democrats have screwed my home state up very badly. 4 more years of Quinn and Madigan in the statehouse will bankrupt Illinois. At a national level, Republicans will serve as a spending brake that is badly needed.

102 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:55:32pm

re: #98 brookly red

uggg, what a cow town… the subway shuts down at 11:00.

What means subway?

103 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:55:50pm

re: #59 Walter L. Newton


I wonder how many of you have actually been to a real ceremony like the one that O’Donnell is trying to imply she attended. Her bullshit sounds like kids playing.

If anyone is in the Denver area, and want’s to attend a real Black Mass, or a Gnostic Mass, let me know.

I think it was kids playing, actually.

104 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:55:56pm

re: #63 rwmofo

Does anyone else think it’s downright comical to witness the infatuation the media/left has for Christine O’Donnell while a much bigger story ought to be the stampede of independent voters heading right? The media/democrat party is serving up the House of Representatives to the Republicans on a silver platter, but we should pay attention to one race? This is hilarious!

Did you see the Gallup poll? It doesn’t appear the independent voters are stampeding to the right

gallup.com

Gallup’s generic ballot for the week of Sept. 13-19 shows a 46% Democratic and 45% Republican split in registered voters’ preferences for the midterm congressional elections. It is the second week out of the last three in which the two parties have been virtually tied.

…..marking a shift after five consecutive weeks in which the Republicans held the advantage.

I also like to look @ the members of LGF. There have been many sane Republican voters here expressing their frustration and willingness not to vote for the crazy.

105 PT Barnum  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:56:11pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

Because the Democrats have screwed my home state up very badly. 4 more years of Quinn and Madigan in the statehouse will bankrupt Illinois. At a national level, Republicans will serve as a spending brake that is badly needed.

oh sure…and when the economy completely tanks because private enterprise still isn’t hiring, then what?

106 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:56:17pm

re: #86 Reginald Perrin

Do you really believe she never ever masturbates?

/well if she thinks of me I call it worship…

107 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:56:34pm

re: #80 Walter L. Newton

And what does that poll show… wrong direction because of the GOP… wrong direction because of WHAT? The poll is worthless.

I always felt that right-track/wrong-track polls are worthless because there isn’t anything really useful you can glean from them other than “people are pissed” or “people aren’t very pissed”. That’s not terribly useful. I mean, it doesn’t exactly suggest any kind of preference, or well… anything.

108 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:56:47pm

re: #97 PT Barnum

And how exactly does voting a bunch of ignorant crazy pants into office solve this particular problem?

At this point, it may not matter… a majority of the public seems to be fed up with the current set of crazy pants. They may be exchanging one set for the other… but the momentum is certainly there.

109 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:56:59pm

re: #67 RogueOne

No one has any idea where O’Donnell came from or how she’s managed to be on talk shows now for over a decade? How did she get picked out of the crowd to be a talking head on cable? Why do you folks want me to have to do the research on my own?


I had a long day. Let us know what you find out.

110 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:57:12pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

Because the Democrats have screwed my home state up very badly. 4 more years of Quinn and Madigan in the statehouse will bankrupt Illinois. At a national level, Republicans will serve as a spending brake that is badly needed.

Why do you believe Republicans will serve as a spending break, when historically that has not been true in the least?

Do you remember how much Bush spent? How much Reagan spent?

Why do you believe the Republicans will serve as a spending brake?

111 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:57:44pm

re: #97 PT Barnum

And how exactly does voting a bunch of ignorant crazy pants into office solve this particular problem?

it removes the other party… sorry but we only got 2.

112 PT Barnum  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:57:52pm

re: #108 Walter L. Newton

At this point, it may not matter… a majority of the public seems to be fed up with the current set of crazy pants. They may be exchanging one set for the other… but the momentum is certainly there.

Do you really think that the current set of crazy pants on the right is preferrable to what’s in office right now? Really? Or are you just hoping for fodder for a farce?

113 windsagio  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:57:55pm

re: #110 Obdicut

Why do you believe Republicans will serve as a spending break, when historically that has not been true in the least?

Do you remember how much Bush spent? How much Reagan spent?

Why do you believe the Republicans will serve as a spending brake?

They say they will!

(Don’t look at the devilishly dashing pop star behind the divan)

114 PT Barnum  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:58:33pm

re: #111 brookly red

it removes the other party… sorry but we only got 2.

So as long as it’s your party fucking up the country, it’s okay?

115 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:58:34pm

re: #98 brookly red

uggg, what a cow town… the subway shuts down at 11:00.

It’s a wonderful place to just walk around after 11:00pm. And you are wrong… here is the actual operations schedule…

Sunday-Friday, it starts up at 5:20am and shuts down at 1:20am the following morning (the trains apparently only need four hours of beauty sleep). On Saturday nights, you’ll get an extra hour’s worth of train time – from 5:20am through 2:20 the following morning.

116 Vambo  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:58:48pm

re: #108 Walter L. Newton

At this point, it may not matter… a majority of the public seems to be fed up with the current set of crazy pants. They may be exchanging one set for the other… but the momentum is certainly there.

bwahahahahaha…

“It’s OK if you’re a Republican”

117 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:58:51pm

re: #86 Reginald Perrin

Do you really believe she never ever masturbates?

It’s possible. Some folks don’t. Lack of interest, or feel they shouldn’t.

I don’t particularly care, I just don’t want to HEAR about her feelings about masturbation. Or anyone in government’s, with the possible and sole exception of the Surgeon General.

118 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:58:58pm

re: #112 PT Barnum

Do you really think that the current set of crazy pants on the right is preferrable to what’s in office right now? Really? Or are you just hoping for fodder for a farce?

Yep… I’m voting for them.

119 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:59:14pm

re: #105 PT Barnum

oh sure…and when the economy completely tanks because private enterprise still isn’t hiring, then what?

dude the economy has tanked completely… we are in post tanked America.

120 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:59:25pm

re: #112 PT Barnum

Do you really think that the current set of crazy pants on the right is preferrable to what’s in office right now? Really? Or are you just hoping for fodder for a farce?

If you take a long general view of things and convince yourself that whatever happens is sort of inevitable anyway, it is all rather funny to watch.

The problem is that it directly affects us. Damn, this could be so funny if it wasn’t so sad.

121 brownbagj  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:59:31pm

It seems to me that the only time there has been any fiscal restraint was when we had Clinton for President and a republican congress.

Bush had full on power and was no conservative. Reagan had a democratic congress that spent mucho dinero.

I don’t think president’s have the power many think they do regarding spending.

Congress, for some reason, gets a pass.

122 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:00:09pm

re: #5 windsagio

Is there any evidence that her witchcraft was anything other than having a Ouija board scream when she tried to burn it?

ahahahahahahahahaha

123 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:00:12pm

re: #97 PT Barnum

And how exactly does voting a bunch of ignorant crazy pants into office solve this particular problem?

Well, it makes watching C-Span more fun.

124 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:00:19pm

re: #121 brownbagj

Reagan’s budgets were not really any smaller than Congress’s.

125 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:00:20pm

re: #116 Vambo

bwahahahahaha…

“It’s OK if you’re a Republican”

I’m not a Republican… I’m registered as an Independent… this coming election, I will vote conservative across the board… even holding my nose on some of them…

126 PT Barnum  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:00:20pm

re: #113 windsagio

They say they will!

(Don’t look at the devilishly dashing pop star behind the divan)

They just will, okay? Just because they never have in the past, doesn’t mean they can’t change. I mean one can hope…

Oh wait..hope and change are socialist

/

127 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:00:39pm

I heard that if you say Christine O’Donnell’s name three times in a mirror, she appears behind you in a cloud of honeybees

128 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:01:09pm

re: #120 Fozzie Bear

If you take a long general view of things and convince yourself that whatever happens is sort of inevitable anyway, it is all rather funny to watch.

The problem is that it directly affects us. Damn, this could be so funny if it wasn’t so sad.

It’s funny that it affects both of us in the same way, yet my outlook is a bit different than yours… interesting.

129 Vambo  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:01:26pm

re: #125 Walter L. Newton

I’m not a Republican… I’m registered as an Independent… this coming election, I will vote conservative across the board… even holding my nose on some of them…

You’ll hold your nose in the voting booth, but brag about it to the LGF libruls?

Yeah right.

130 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:01:37pm

re: #119 brookly red

dude the economy has tanked completely… we are in post tanked America.

Upding for the concept of post-tanked America.

131 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:01:46pm

re: #114 PT Barnum

So as long as it’s your party fucking up the country, it’s okay?

no I am a Democrat, and I apologize that my party is fucking up the country…

132 brownbagj  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:01:48pm

re: #124 Obdicut

Would you agree that having a single party in power almost always leads to waste?

I would be very happy to have a democrat president with a republican (sane) Congress. It seems to have worked well in the past.

I don’t want to ever see one party in control again.

133 PT Barnum  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:01:51pm

re: #125 Walter L. Newton

I’m not a Republican… I’m registered as an Independent… this coming election, I will vote conservative across the board… even holding my nose on some of them…

You want to share with us your definition of conservative? I don’t see most of these yahoos as very conservative. Radical reactionaries, yes, but not conservative by any stretch of the imagination.

134 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:01:55pm

re: #129 Vambo

You’ll hold your nose in the voting booth, but brag about it to the LGF libruls?

Yeah right.

Right. Enjoy.

135 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:02:03pm

It’s my birthday..I’m in a Hotel without my guitar..I ‘ve been writing music to keep from being bored and posting it here…I just wrote Indiana nights…I’m formatting now…

136 rwmofo  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:02:13pm

re: #110 Obdicut

“Why do you believe the Republicans will serve as a spending brake?”

Gingrich became Speaker of the House under the promise Republicans would balance the budget, then promptly stuffed it down Clinton’s throat. Not all Republicans are as ballsy as Newt, but they ought to be.

137 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:02:18pm

re: #127 WindUpBird

I heard that if you say Christine O’Donnell’s name three times in a mirror, she appears behind you in a cloud of honeybees

And then scolds you for dabbling in witchcraft. Boring.

138 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:02:30pm

re: #133 PT Barnum

You want to share with us your definition of conservative? I don’t see most of these yahoos as very conservative. Radical reactionaries, yes, but not conservative by any stretch of the imagination.

Yes… anyone to the right of Obama. Works for me.

139 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:02:37pm

I heard that Christine O’Donnell is impervious to harm except by those born exactly one second after midnight

140 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:02:54pm

re: #128 Walter L. Newton

It’s funny that it affects both of us in the same way, yet my outlook is a bit different than yours… interesting.

We’re just very, very different people with a few similar cognitive/perceptual tendencies, I think.

141 Vambo  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:02:57pm

re: #134 Walter L. Newton

Right. Enjoy.

GOP shill, dead ender, etc.

142 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:03:30pm

re: #141 Vambo

GOP shill, dead ender, etc.

Whoa… no you hurt me.

143 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:03:31pm

re: #131 brookly red

no I am a Democrat, and I apologize that my party is fucking up the country…

I accept your apology.

144 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:03:49pm

re: #130 SanFranciscoZionist

Upding for the concept of post-tanked America.

Hey it is not the end of the world… we just have to admit we fucked up and fix it…

145 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:03:51pm

re: #132 brownbagj

Would you agree that having a single party in power almost always leads to waste?

No. Sample size too small. Other factors too hard to calculate. Waste still happens in other circumstances.

I would be very happy to have a democrat president with a republican (sane) Congress. It seems to have worked well in the past.

Good luck finding a sane Republican congress.

I don’t want to ever see one party in control again.

That is not a sufficient reason to vote for gay-bashing, racism, and religious intolerance.

146 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:04:08pm

re: #127 WindUpBird

I heard that if you say Christine O’Donnell’s name three times in a mirror, she appears behind you in a cloud of honeybees

Well, that’s stinging.

147 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:04:13pm

re: #132 brownbagj

Would you agree that having a single party in power almost always leads to waste?

I would be very happy to have a democrat president with a republican (sane) Congress. It seems to have worked well in the past.

I don’t want to ever see one party in control again.

“Waste” (whatever the balls that means) is not exactly my number one concern right now in America

But being a dude that many of the GOP’s base would like to see imprisoned, attacked, barred from teaching and barred from entering into marriage contracts, my mileage my vary

148 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:04:26pm

re: #136 rwmofo

What’s Newt up to these days?

And why, for the love of god, are you guys so enamored of the image of things being stuffed down throats?

149 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:05:00pm

Ya know, would doadally do Christine.

Well, yeah, she’s a bit older than my usual.

But, like, she’s hot.

My only problem is, if I go to all the trouble of setting up a satanic altar and she doesn’t even compliment me on the blood, well, how’s that supposed to make a guy feel speshul?

150 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:05:16pm

re: #145 Obdicut

Somehow I wonder if this guy’s “waste” is my “coherent domestic policy that doesn’t suck”

151 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:05:23pm

re: #143 Mr Pancakes

I accept your apology.

I will try to do better going forward…

152 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:05:31pm

re: #146 Dark_Falcon

You have not answered my question as to why you believe the GOP would act as a spending brake when they have, historically, failed to do so.

153 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:05:43pm

Indiana Nights

It’s a full moon on an Indiana night
The air is warm and I’m feeling alright
Now It’s time to go
On a Hoosier night
On a full moon over an Indiana night
Some times you gotta be bad
Some times you gotta be good
Living the high life in the Valley
And some times hanging in the hood
But it’s a full moon in Indiana tonight
The sky is dark
mostly a blue hue
A perfect night in Indiana
Dressed in milky blues
Sometimes life slaps you down
Like In a big street fight
Other times it shines light on you
On a warm autumn night..
Cruising in Indiana…
With the top put down
Wind blowing through my hair.
Yea I’m Oklahoma Bound
Cruising in Indiana…Headed way down South
Full moon above me..
On a Indiana Night
On a Indiana night
Full Moon..
Indiana night
Full moon
Indiana Night!


154 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:05:53pm

re: #148 Obdicut

What’s Newt up to these days?

And why, for the love of god, are you guys so enamored of the image of things being stuffed down throats?

SERIOUSLY.

155 brownbagj  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:06:08pm

re: #145 Obdicut

No. Sample size too small. Other factors too hard to calculate. Waste still happens in other circumstances.

Good luck finding a sane Republican congress.

That is not a sufficient reason to vote for gay-bashing, racism, and religious intolerance.

Sample size is small, but it’s all we have to work with. I go with what I have on this one.

Agree about the sane Republican congress…this is why I put it in there.

And I don’t think I have ever voted for anyone who bashes gays or treats them as unequal. I wouldn’t do that.

156 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:06:22pm

re: #136 rwmofo

“Why do you believe the Republicans will serve as a spending brake?”

Gingrich became Speaker of the House under the promise Republicans would balance the budget, then promptly stuffed it down Clinton’s throat. Not all Republicans are as ballsy as Newt, but they ought to be.

If you want to be on the record of celebrating Neo-Klansman Newt “Get the fags” Gingrich, be my guest there, sporto

157 jaunte  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:06:31pm

re: #148 Obdicut

What’s Newt up to these days?

And why, for the love of god, are you guys so enamored of the image of things being stuffed down throats?

Any other way in would be unmentionable.

158 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:06:40pm

re: #136 rwmofo

“Why do you believe the Republicans will serve as a spending brake?”

Gingrich became Speaker of the House under the promise Republicans would balance the budget, then promptly stuffed it down Clinton’s throat. Not all Republicans are as ballsy as Newt, but they ought to be.

Newt’s got serious problems but he did play a cardinal role in balancing the budget. The later failure of the GOP to continue to contain spending was the produce of getting to comfortable and the leadership’s refusal to take unpleasant but needed actions (such as vetoing a bill, in GWB’s case).

159 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:06:42pm

re: #148 Obdicut

What’s Newt up to these days?

And why, for the love of god, are you guys so enamored of the image of things being stuffed down throats?

POST OF THE DAY

160 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:07:45pm

re: #148 Obdicut

What’s Newt up to these days?

And why, for the love of god, are you guys so enamored of the image of things being stuffed down throats?

You got pictures?

161 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:07:53pm

I heard that if you trick Christine O’Donnell into saying her name backwards, she’s forced to return to her home dimension

162 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:07:58pm

re: #136 rwmofo

Newt is not ballsy. He’s a windsock.

163 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:08:09pm

re: #135 HoosierHoops

It’s my birthday..I’m in a Hotel without my guitar..I ‘ve been writing music to keep from being bored and posting it here…I just wrote Indiana nights…I’m formatting now…

Indiana wants me, Lord I can’t go back there
Indiana wants me, Lord I can’t go back there
I wish I had you, to talk to.

164 EdDantes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:08:19pm

Jimi Hendrix:

Excuse me while I kiss this guy.

165 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:08:39pm

re: #152 Obdicut

You have not answered my question as to why you believe the GOP would act as a spending brake when they have, historically, failed to do so.

They were good at curbing spending when a Dem held the White House. I think that pattern will repeat.

166 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:08:39pm

re: #150 WindUpBird

Somehow I wonder if this guy’s “waste” is my “coherent domestic policy that doesn’t suck”

That’s how it tends to go.

167 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:08:49pm

I heard that on Arrakis, the Fremen have discovered that Christine O’Donnell’s name is a killing word

168 brownbagj  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:08:54pm

re: #150 WindUpBird

Somehow I wonder if this guy’s “waste” is my “coherent domestic policy that doesn’t suck”

No - waste is spending on programs that do not work versus spending on ones that do.

You can be damn abrasive - especially to someone who agrees with you that social policies are important and is extremely liberal on those policies.

This “guy.” Call me out by name if you want to discuss - not dismiss me as rubbish not worth your time. There are many like me who you need on your side to get the R’s to do the right thing.

169 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:09:19pm

re: #151 brookly red

I will try to do better going forward…

So, who would you like to see lead the Democrats in the later part of Obama’s first term?

170 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:09:20pm

re: #164 EdDantes

Jimi Hendrix:

Excuse me while I kiss this guy.

I ate some brains down in Africa

171 rwmofo  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:09:24pm

re: #156 WindUpBird

If you want to be on the record of celebrating Neo-Klansman Newt “Get the fags” Gingrich, be my guest there, sporto

You must be thinking about Senator Byrd. It’s OK (with the left), though. He apologized.

172 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:09:53pm

re: #149 Cato the Elder

Ya know, would doadally do Christine.

Well, yeah, she’s a bit older than my usual.

But, like, she’s hot.

My only problem is, if I go to all the trouble of setting up a satanic altar and she doesn’t even compliment me on the blood, well, how’s that supposed to make a guy feel speshul?

Don’t use a condom and tell her you love her.

173 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:10:10pm

re: #171 rwmofo

You must be thinking about Senator Byrd. It’s OK (with the left), though. He apologized.

There you go bring up the Magical Fact Fairy.

174 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:10:12pm

re: #91 Obdicut

Why are you happy about the current GOP gaining power, Dark, given what they have been doing?

I don’t know about Dark but I want the dems punished. In 2006 I wanted the republicans punished because they couldn’t keep it (our wallet) in their pants. Now I want the dems punished because they somehow took their election victory against deficits and spending and turned it into sign from god that their mission was to make George Bush, who grew the fed govt by 104%, look like a cheap bastard.

I laughed my butt off when Scott Brown won. I want Angle to win for the sheer comedy factor. I have no idea where the hell O’Donnell came from but the witch thing kind of turns me on. I want dems to take a beating like they owe me money. I started practicing the victory jig a year ago.

175 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:10:15pm

re: #148 Obdicut

What’s Newt up to these days?

And why, for the love of god, are you guys so enamored of the image of things being stuffed down throats?

They haven’t yet gotten comfortable with the concept of sexuality. They are children.

I honestly feel that the hardcore socon crowd (not representative of all conservatives, certainly) is basically definied by an extreme retardation of mojo. They are operating at a 5th grade level, sexually.

176 EdDantes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:10:49pm

re: #170 Stanley Sea

I ate some brains down in Africa

Toto!

177 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:11:01pm

re: #165 Dark_Falcon

They were good at curbing spending when a Dem held the White House. I think that pattern will repeat.

One single incident is not a pattern, Dark. And that GOP bears no resemblance to this GOP.

Why on earth do you believe this will repeat with the current GOP?

I’m looking for a reason, not a hope.

178 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:11:14pm

re: #174 RogueOne

I don’t know about Dark but I want the dems punished. In 2006 I wanted the republicans punished because they couldn’t keep it (our wallet) in their pants. Now I want the dems punished because they somehow took their election victory against deficits and spending and turned it into sign from god that their mission was to make George Bush, who grew the fed govt by 104%, look like a cheap bastard.

I laughed my butt off when Scott Brown won. I want Angle to win for the sheer comedy factor. I have no idea where the hell O’Donnell came from but the witch thing kind of turns me on. I want dems to take a beating like they owe me money. I started practicing the victory jig a year ago.

COUNTRY FIRST!

See why this is dangerous?

179 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:11:36pm

re: #166 SanFranciscoZionist

That’s how it tends to go.

Dirty hippie: “Hey, maybe we should properly fund our psych hospitals and social workers and our mental health infrastructure in general, because treating the epidemic of mental illness among street people seems like a humane and far better way of dealing with the homeless problem than just putting them in jail or ignoring them on the streets…”


Tough-talking patriot: “NUH UH THAT’S WASTE!! RON PAUL DR. NO GET A JOB SLUGGARD”

180 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:11:51pm

re: #170 Stanley Sea

I ate some brains down in Africa

That’s funny

181 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:11:52pm

re: #174 RogueOne

I don’t know about Dark but I want the dems punished. In 2006 I wanted the republicans punished because they couldn’t keep it (our wallet) in their pants. Now I want the dems punished because they somehow took their election victory against deficits and spending and turned it into sign from god that their mission was to make George Bush, who grew the fed govt by 104%, look like a cheap bastard.

I laughed my butt off when Scott Brown won. I want Angle to win for the sheer comedy factor. I have no idea where the hell O’Donnell came from but the witch thing kind of turns me on. I want dems to take a beating like they owe me money. I started practicing the victory jig a year ago.

Let’s revisit that sign “This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”

182 rwmofo  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:12:00pm

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

Newt’s got serious problems but he did play a cardinal role in balancing the budget. The later failure of the GOP to continue to contain spending was the produce of getting to comfortable and the leadership’s refusal to take unpleasant but needed actions (such as vetoing a bill, in GWB’s case).

Agreed. Newt teed it up and the guys who took the baton dropped it. There are some young guns (Ryan & Cantor) who know what to do now.

183 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:12:29pm

re: #131 brookly red

no I am a Democrat, and I apologize that my party is fucking up the country…

You should. I’m blaming you personally. You and Obdi.

184 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:12:36pm

re: #174 RogueOne

I don’t know about Dark but I want the dems punished. In 2006 I wanted the republicans punished because they couldn’t keep it (our wallet) in their pants. Now I want the dems punished because they somehow took their election victory against deficits and spending and turned it into sign from god that their mission was to make George Bush, who grew the fed govt by 104%, look like a cheap bastard.

I laughed my butt off when Scott Brown won. I want Angle to win for the sheer comedy factor. I have no idea where the hell O’Donnell came from but the witch thing kind of turns me on. I want dems to take a beating like they owe me money. I started practicing the victory jig a year ago.

How do you feel about raising taxes, specifically the impending expiration of the Bush tax cuts? Be honest.

185 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:12:44pm

re: #174 RogueOne

I don’t know about Dark but I want the dems punished.

I know you do. You’re a hyperpartisan with no regard for what is actually good for the country, or how it affects the rights of your fellow citizens. You’ve made that abundantly clear.

I just don’t get why you think that position deserves any respect at all, or why you feel that you can call others ‘cheerleaders’, when your position is being 100% against the Democrats 100% of the time.

186 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:12:53pm

re: #169 SanFranciscoZionist

So, who would you like to see lead the Democrats in the later part of Obama’s first term?

I wouldn’t… I have given up on this bunch. Sorry if people don’t like it but I can see a single Dem I can support (and 99% of the R’s suck too) throw them all out.

187 EdDantes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:12:54pm

Bristol Palin on Dancing with the stars! Geeez!

188 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:12:56pm

re: #164 EdDantes

Jimi Hendrix:

Excuse me while I kiss this guy.

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord,
He is trampling down the village where the Great Giraffe is stored…

189 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:12:57pm

re: #165 Dark_Falcon

You’re my favorite idiot.

190 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:13:00pm

re: #178 Stanley Sea

COUNTRY FIRST!

See why this is dangerous?

I am voting country first. I thought that was obvious.

191 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:13:21pm

re: #167 WindUpBird

I heard that on Arrakis, the Fremen have discovered that Christine O’Donnell’s name is a killing word

I’m sure they imagine the person whose name it is as being rather scarier-looking.

192 brownbagj  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:13:32pm

re: #177 Obdicut

It seems the only “hope” we have right now for some fiscal sanity - and at least there is some history to back it up.

One party controlling all the purse strings isn’t healthy in my opinion. The republicans became intoxicated with power and turned on their small government roots and instead focused on spending like mad and trying to interfere in people’s private lives (religious right).

It seems the only way politicians are held in check is when the American people force them to check on each other.

193 Lidane  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:13:39pm

re: #97 PT Barnum

And how exactly does voting a bunch of ignorant crazy pants into office solve this particular problem?

Not only that, but ignorant crazy pants that think unemployment benefits are unconstitutional, or that people without jobs should STFU and stop whining already.

Yeah, that’s going to be a whole lot of help.

194 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:13:45pm

re: #174 RogueOne

I don’t know about Dark but I want the dems punished. In 2006 I wanted the republicans punished because they couldn’t keep it (our wallet) in their pants. Now I want the dems punished because they somehow took their election victory against deficits and spending and turned it into sign from god that their mission was to make George Bush, who grew the fed govt by 104%, look like a cheap bastard.

I laughed my butt off when Scott Brown won. I want Angle to win for the sheer comedy factor. I have no idea where the hell O’Donnell came from but the witch thing kind of turns me on. I want dems to take a beating like they owe me money. I started practicing the victory jig a year ago.

Root root for Christine o’Donnell

I heard that there’s an island full of Christine O’Donnells, where one half of the Christine O’Donnells tells only the truth, and one half of the island’s Christine O’Donnells tells only lies

I was shipwrecked on this island, I aint never forget that fateful, stormy night

195 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:13:59pm

re: #183 RogueOne

You should. I’m blaming you personally. You and Obdi.

sigh… It is my fault. I should have done more.

196 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:13:59pm

re: #168 brownbagj

Sorry, I’m not replying to your comment. I don’t care. I love your avatar and I laugh every time. Every time.

197 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:14:22pm

re: #182 rwmofo

Agreed. Newt teed it up and the guys who took the baton dropped it. There are some young guns (Ryan & Cantor) who know what to do now.

ROFL

198 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:14:23pm

re: #192 brownbagj

I’m sorry, but no, history does not back this up.

The current GOP, tea-party fired up, ruled by socons, has never had majority control of congress.

You cannot compare them to a past GOP. It does not work.

199 reine.de.tout  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:14:24pm

re: #127 WindUpBird

I heard that if you say Christine O’Donnell’s name three times in a mirror, she appears behind you in a cloud of honeybees

Hey WUB.
You asked me a question in an earlier thread, and I’ve replied, if you’re interested.

200 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:14:36pm

re: #185 Obdicut

I know you do. You’re a hyperpartisan with no regard for what is actually good for the country, or how it affects the rights of your fellow citizens. You’ve made that abundantly clear.

I just don’t get why you think that position deserves any respect at all, or why you feel that you can call others ‘cheerleaders’, when your position is being 100% against the Democrats 100% of the time.

Nice try coming from a hyperpartisan yourself. You can continue to defend the policies that got us into this mess all you like but the rest of us see what continual overspending and focusing on everything BUT the economy is getting us. I haven’t changed my tune from one administration to the next, can you say the same thing?

201 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:14:58pm

re: #170 Stanley Sea

I ate some brains down in Africa

Three men on a mountain, up on Calvary,
And the mandolin player ate Cheez Whiz,
He died for you and me.

202 Lidane  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:15:14pm

re: #110 Obdicut

Why do you believe the Republicans will serve as a spending brake?

Because that’s the bullshit line the GOP has been feeding people for decades.

It hasn’t been anywhere close to true in at least 30 years, but people still fall for it for some reason.

203 palomino  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:15:22pm

re: #171 rwmofo

You must be thinking about Senator Byrd. It’s OK (with the left), though. He apologized.

He’s also dead. But the equivalency argument invoking him apparently lives on!

204 rwmofo  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:15:37pm

re: #186 brookly red

I wouldn’t… I have given up on this bunch. Sorry if people don’t like it but I can see a single Dem I can support (and 99% of the R’s suck too) throw them all out.

Joe Lieberman always seemed reasonable to me. Hey where the hell is he? Joe! No, not you Biden!

205 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:15:52pm

i think if the republican party really does take over the house this year that it will be the worst thing that could happen to them

206 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:15:57pm

re: #203 palomino

He’s also dead. But the equivalency argument invoking him apparently lives on!

The MAgical Fats Are Facts Fairy lives on. It’s a bitch.

207 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:16:00pm

re: #171 rwmofo

You must be thinking about Senator Byrd. It’s OK (with the left), though. He apologized.

Senator Byrd wasn’t no neo-nuthin’. He was actually in the Klan.

Did Jesse Helms ever get his ass around to apologizing to Carol Moseley Braun?

208 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:16:05pm

I heard that garments worn by Christine O’Donnell can ward off the undead if used as talismans

209 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:16:32pm

re: #208 WindUpBird

I heard that garments worn by Christine O’Donnell can ward off the undead if used as talismans

I’ve seen your outfit… it would wake the dead :)

210 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:16:38pm

re: #192 brownbagj

It seems the only “hope” we have right now for some fiscal sanity - and at least there is some history to back it up.

One party controlling all the purse strings isn’t healthy in my opinion. The republicans became intoxicated with power and turned on their small government roots and instead focused on spending like mad and trying to interfere in people’s private lives (religious right).

It seems the only way politicians are held in check is when the American people force them to check on each other.

Would you vote for a klansman if he promised he’d cut spending?

211 prairiefire  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:16:43pm

re: #200 RogueOne

Nice try coming from a hyperpartisan yourself. You can continue to defend the policies that got us into this mess all you like but the rest of us see what continual overspending and focusing on everything BUT the economy is getting us. I haven’t changed my tune from one administration to the next, can you say the same thing?

Quick, name 5 things President Obama has done while focused on the US economy.

212 brownbagj  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:16:49pm

re: #179 WindUpBird

I hope you are not still talking about “this” guy.

We do not fund hospitals enough - especially mental hospitals. This small government conservative feels that the role of governments is to absolutely protect and care for those who cannot do so for themselves.
How am I wrong to think that many of our insuffucient funding problems are due to pet projects being funded that do no good and only harm by directing funds away from where they are needed?

Of course, I expect your reply will be intelligent like…”Duhhrr, hurr hurr - waste, conservative wants mentally impaired people to suffer durr hurr.”

213 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:16:52pm

re: #209 Walter L. Newton

I’ve seen your outfit… it would wake the dead :)

it does way more than that

214 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:16:54pm

re: #174 RogueOne

I don’t know about Dark but I want the dems punished. In 2006 I wanted the republicans punished because they couldn’t keep it (our wallet) in their pants. Now I want the dems punished because they somehow took their election victory against deficits and spending and turned it into sign from god that their mission was to make George Bush, who grew the fed govt by 104%, look like a cheap bastard.

I laughed my butt off when Scott Brown won. I want Angle to win for the sheer comedy factor. I have no idea where the hell O’Donnell came from but the witch thing kind of turns me on. I want dems to take a beating like they owe me money. I started practicing the victory jig a year ago.

I just want to add one thing to this sizzling description of political vengeance-seeking—you do realize that this is how Obama got into begin with?

215 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:17:03pm

re: #198 Obdicut

I’m sorry, but no, history does not back this up.

The current GOP, tea-party fired up, ruled by socons, has never had majority control of congress.

You cannot compare them to a past GOP. It does not work.

OK lets be real, there are no longer any labels that fit… it is a whole new deal and we are making history.

216 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:17:21pm

re: #198 Obdicut

I’m sorry, but no, history does not back this up.

The current GOP, tea-party fired up, ruled by socons, has never had majority control of congress.

You cannot compare them to a past GOP. It does not work.

You keep talking about social issues when everyone else on the planet understands this election is about the economy and jobs. Funny how the left wants to change the subject all the sudden. That whole “HCR is going to SAVE us money!” thing must not be going so well.

217 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:17:39pm

re: #201 SanFranciscoZionist

LOL

218 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:17:53pm

re: #182 rwmofo

Agreed. Newt teed it up and the guys who took the baton dropped it. There are some young guns (Ryan & Cantor) who know what to do now.

Just so. Ryan’s budget ideas are very good and I have every reason to believe that Republicans will use them a their starting point for any budget negotiations. That will bring better fiscal policies into Congress.

219 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:17:55pm

re: #186 brookly red

I wouldn’t… I have given up on this bunch. Sorry if people don’t like it but I can see a single Dem I can support (and 99% of the R’s suck too) throw them all out.

It’s just that you mention now and then that you’re a Democrat, so I wondered if you had any hopes or ideas for the party.

220 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:18:00pm

re: #200 RogueOne

Nice try coming from a hyperpartisan yourself.

I’m not. I was seriously torn between McCain and Obama— until Palin. I would have voted (though now I’m glad she didn’t run) for Olympia Snowe.

Whereas you have stated you would vote for the most socon socon over any Democrat because you believe they are weak on national defense.

You can continue to defend the policies that got us into this mess all you like but the rest of us see what continual overspending and focusing on everything BUT the economy is getting us.

You can’t simultaneously criticize the spending designed to help the economy and accuse the administration of ignoring the economy. It’s completely irrational. This is a usual form of argument you make; in one sentence, it destroys itself.

I haven’t changed my tune from one administration to the next, can you say the same thing?

Yes, of course I can.

221 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:18:20pm

re: #187 EdDantes

Bristol Palin on Dancing with the stars! Geeez!

Poor kid. This is getting ridiculous.

No. This got ridiculous a while ago. Now it’s getting sad.

222 brownbagj  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:18:26pm

re: #210 WindUpBird

WTF? Hell no!

What are you talking about? Have you ever read anything I have ever written?

223 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:18:35pm

re: #213 WindUpBird

it does way more than that

lol giggity

224 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:18:38pm

Teabaggers and “conservatives” are nothing but cat’s paws for the bitch’s bastards who already own everything worth owning in this charade of a democracy.

I think I’m done with “voting”.

225 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:18:49pm

re: #212 brownbagj

I hope you are not still talking about “this” guy.

We do not fund hospitals enough - especially mental hospitals. This small government conservative feels that the role of governments is to absolutely protect and care for those who cannot do so for themselves.
How am I wrong to think that many of our insuffucient funding problems are due to pet projects being funded that do no good and only harm by directing funds away from where they are needed?

Of course, I expect your reply will be intelligent like…”Duhhrr, hurr hurr - waste, conservative wants mentally impaired people to suffer durr hurr.”

Just using the term “waste” and running with it, if you ask a thousand people, they have a thousand ideas of what “waste” is/ Nothing personal, it’s just that I’m so very very ill, in fact I despair of the buzzword of “government’s gotta cut WASTE”.

I think giving tax cuts to rich people so they can hoard it is “waste” because a society doesn’t thrive on hoarding. It is a very elastic word, “waste”

226 AlexRogan  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:18:54pm

re: #163 Mr Pancakes

Indiana wants me, Lord I can’t go back there
Indiana wants me, Lord I can’t go back there
I wish I had you, to talk to.

Youtube Video

A favorite of mine…

227 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:19:01pm

re: #195 brookly red

sigh… It is my fault. I should have done more.

Registered with the New Whig Party?

228 EdDantes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:19:05pm

re: #211 prairiefire

Gone on vacation?

229 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:19:07pm

re: #213 WindUpBird

it does way more than that

“If you think you’re gonna’ get back in my panties, forget it. There’s one asshole in there already.”

Name that movie… (one of my favorite movies of all time).

230 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:19:38pm

re: #226 talon_262

[Video]A favorite of mine…

R Dean Taylor!

231 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:19:48pm

re: #216 RogueOne

You keep talking about social issues when everyone else on the planet understands this election is about the economy and jobs. Funny how the left wants to change the subject all the sudden. That whole “HCR is going to SAVE us money!” thing must not be going so well.

I’m fine with talking about the economy and jobs.

However, yes, I do consider some positions so morally abhorrent that I can’t understand anyone who would vote for someone who would support them.

The GOP endorses a lot of those positions.

232 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:19:59pm

re: #223 Fozzie Bear

lol giggity

*falls over*

233 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:20:03pm

re: #189 Cato the Elder

You’re my favorite idiot.

Indeed. Well, I still respect you and your opinion.

234 rwmofo  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:20:17pm

re: #207 SanFranciscoZionist

Senator Byrd wasn’t no neo-nuthin’. He was actually in the Klan.

Did Jesse Helms ever get his ass around to apologizing to Carol Moseley Braun?

I’ll concede that both parties have had and still have individuals who embarrass the rest.

235 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:20:25pm

cut to 2012 after two years of the GOP in control of congress: tea party activists moaning about how the republicans have betrayed them and are “acting like democrats”. GOP will split in two like a overripe melon

236 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:20:35pm

re: #229 Walter L. Newton

“If you think you’re gonna’ get back in my panties, forget it. There’s one asshole in there already.”

Name that movie… (one of my favorite movies of all time).

On Golden Pond?

237 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:20:36pm

re: #21.1 prairiefire

Quick, name 5 things President Obama has done while focused on the US economy.

nationalized health care
nationalized the auto industry
payed off the unions
terrorized the banks
talked much shit.

238 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:20:52pm

re: #208 WindUpBird

I heard that garments worn by Christine O’Donnell can ward off the undead if used as talismans

I wonder if she would be willing to send me a pair of her panties. Is there a way to make such a request without sounding like a pervert? Maybe if I asked for a sock? A pair of socks. Then my husband could carry one.

(Gotta keep the zombie plan up to date.)

239 reine.de.tout  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:21:01pm

re: #212 brownbagj

I hope you are not still talking about “this” guy.

We do not fund hospitals enough - especially mental hospitals. This small government conservative feels that the role of governments is to absolutely protect and care for those who cannot do so for themselves.
How am I wrong to think that many of our insuffucient funding problems are due to pet projects being funded that do no good and only harm by directing funds away from where they are needed?

… “

There ya go.

240 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:21:08pm

re: #237 brookly red

Health care was not nationalized.

241 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:21:20pm

re: #219 SanFranciscoZionist

It’s just that you mention now and then that you’re a Democrat, so I wondered if you had any hopes or ideas for the party.

yes get back to basics…

242 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:21:31pm

re: #224 Cato the Elder

Teabaggers and “conservatives” are nothing but cat’s paws for the bitch’s bastards who already own everything worth owning in this charade of a democracy.

I think I’m done with “voting”.

No you are not Cato…
Mini bar time..Cato..Scotch neat or what?

243 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:21:51pm

re: #236 Mr Pancakes

On Golden Pond?

Nope… here’s another clue.. name the movie (without googling it)…

“Oh God, to whom vengeance belongs. How long shall the wicked triumph? How long shall they utter and speak hard things? How long shall they turn 50-buck tricks, and strut their evil bodies and smelly silk underwear? Tear off that dress and she’s as helpless as I am. China Blue, alias Joanna Crane, alias Peter Shayne. They’ll all… be saved. “

244 Lidane  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:22:28pm

re: #237 brookly red

If you seriously think he’s nationalized anything, you’re delusional, or have never seen any actual examples of what nationalized industry looks like.

Also, the idea that the banks are terrorized is laughable, flat out.

245 brownbagj  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:22:54pm

re: #225 WindUpBird

Ok, I better understand.

Look, I am a conservative - and I think in the true sense of the word.

Each person should be free to live their own lives as long as it does not harm or endanger another.

Gays should be free to marry - hell, I know a wedding I would go to right now for one of my dearest friends.

I also believe that the mentally ill, physically impaired and youth should be protected, nurtured and helped by our government.

I also believe that there can be a balance between spending and taxing. I just want some common sense. Efficiency.

I want the government out of private life - period. I really am a conservative champion for many things you speak of. Please do not lump me in with the braindead.

246 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:23:03pm

re: #237 brookly red

nationalized health care
nationalized the auto industry
payed off the unions
terrorized the banks
talked much shit.

Nationalized…

…I need another nap.

247 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:23:03pm

re: #243 Walter L. Newton

Nope… here’s another clue.. name the movie (without googling it)…

“Oh God, to whom vengeance belongs. How long shall the wicked triumph? How long shall they utter and speak hard things? How long shall they turn 50-buck tricks, and strut their evil bodies and smelly silk underwear? Tear off that dress and she’s as helpless as I am. China Blue, alias Joanna Crane, alias Peter Shayne. They’ll all… be saved. “

Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure?

248 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:23:06pm

re: #237 brookly red

nationalized health care
nationalized the auto industry
payed off the unions
terrorized the banks
talked much shit.

nationalized health care - if you call funneling billions of dollars to private insurance companies without having created any new government entities “nationalizing” anything

payed off the unions - by ignoring them and not giving them a damn thing

terrorized the banks - by giving them billions of dollars

249 palomino  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:23:26pm

re: #174 RogueOne

I don’t know about Dark but I want the dems punished. In 2006 I wanted the republicans punished because they couldn’t keep it (our wallet) in their pants. Now I want the dems punished because they somehow took their election victory against deficits and spending and turned it into sign from god that their mission was to make George Bush, who grew the fed govt by 104%, look like a cheap bastard.

I laughed my butt off when Scott Brown won. I want Angle to win for the sheer comedy factor. I have no idea where the hell O’Donnell came from but the witch thing kind of turns me on. I want dems to take a beating like they owe me money. I started practicing the victory jig a year ago.

The GOP is going off the rails (a fact chronicled here daily) and you’re dancing a jig for them? Great!

Better enjoy that dance now. Because as the gop transforms itself into the White Christian Party, in a nation becoming less white (and even a little less Christian) every day, there won’t be any enduring gop majority. You can rally and dance all you want, but you can’t change demographics or population trends.

250 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:23:29pm

re: #214 SanFranciscoZionist

I just want to add one thing to this sizzling description of political vengeance-seeking—you do realize that this is how Obama got into begin with?

Eventually, somehow, they’ll get the message. I have hope. Republicans at least talk like they’ve learned their lesson but I don’t have any hope that it will last. They only thing I see getting through to them is if one of them takes it in the shorts so badly it scares them for awhile.

251 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:24:00pm

re: #240 Obdicut

Health care was not nationalized.

Don’t bother. He’s a dem remember? He knows this stuff.

252 brownbagj  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:24:06pm

re: #196 Stanley Sea

Yeah. I am going to leave it for a while. Every now and again I need to remind myself how good I have it and I bring that picture up.

Laugh every time too. It never gets old. :)

253 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:24:24pm

re: #240 Obdicut

Health care was not nationalized.

I think the Dutch Nationalized system is the best in the world..My buddy loves it…

254 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:24:36pm

re: #222 brownbagj

WTF? Hell no!

What are you talking about? Have you ever read anything I have ever written?

haha like my later thing indicates, you’re just the sounding board for me pinging my contempt for the political notion that it’s all about obsessing about some sort of utopian maximum efficiency for government at the expense of actual policy that helps people, I don’t actually think you’re going to vote for David Duke or anything

But right now, people going “we gotta punish the dems!”, it sorta sickens me, because the flip side of that is “you know all this completely psychotic republican rhetoric, this bircher nonsense, this social-conservative viciousness against anyone who isn’t the right kind of Christian? let’s REWARD that!”

The Tea Party IS the base of the Republican party, they just were kept in line by the saner heads, the guys who were good at not really giving them what they wanted, but pretending they did

Now, no more kept in check, now their freak flag is FLYIN HIGH AGAIN *power chord*

255 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:25:14pm

re: #251 Stanley Sea

Don’t bother. He’s a dem remember? He knows this stuff.

some day you will get it, I am patient .

256 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:25:20pm

re: #247 Mr Pancakes

Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure?

Nope… one last clue… a Kathleen Turner movie.

257 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:25:51pm

re: #250 RogueOne

Eventually, somehow, they’ll get the message. I have hope. Republicans at least talk like they’ve learned their lesson but I don’t have any hope that it will last. They only thing I see getting through to them is if one of them takes it in the shorts so badly it scares them for awhile.

I don’t think the Republicans have learned anything, except that they really, really, want to win, and going hard right seems to have rewards at the moment.

I guess I just don’t see political vendetta as a learning tool, although I certainly get a high off it when my guys win.

258 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:25:55pm

re: #252 brownbagj

Yeah. I am going to leave it for a while. Every now and again I need to remind myself how good I have it and I bring that picture up.

Laugh every time too. It never gets old. :)

NEVER gets old. hahahaha

259 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:25:59pm

re: #171 rwmofo

You must be thinking about Senator Byrd. It’s OK (with the left), though. He apologized.

is this where I patiently explain to you as if you are a small child about what happened to all the Dixiecrats after LBJ passed civil rights legislation?


because I’ve done that a lot, and it’s starting to bore me

260 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:26:10pm

“Modern Whigs”

There I’ve said it.

LOL

261 EdDantes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:26:52pm

re: #256 Walter L. Newton

Body Heat?

262 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:26:59pm

re: #254 WindUpBird

haha like my later thing indicates, you’re just the sounding board for me pinging my contempt for the political notion that it’s all about obsessing about some sort of utopian maximum efficiency for government at the expense of actual policy that helps people, I don’t actually think you’re going to vote for David Duke or anything

But right now, people going “we gotta punish the dems!”, it sorta sickens me, because the flip side of that is “you know all this completely psychotic republican rhetoric, this bircher nonsense, this social-conservative viciousness against anyone who isn’t the right kind of Christian? let’s REWARD that!”

The Tea Party IS the base of the Republican party, they just were kept in line by the saner heads, the guys who were good at not really giving them what they wanted, but pretending they did

Now, no more kept in check, now their freak flag is FLYIN HIGH AGAIN *power chord*

There has been homophobes and religious nuts in this country since the beginning, and I think out constitution has so far stood up to any challenges that has come from those idiots.

263 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:27:02pm

re: #237 brookly red

nationalized health care
nationalized the auto industry
payed off the unions
terrorized the banks
talked much shit.

hahaha I do not think “nationalize” means what you think it means

Go listen to Limbaugh some more, he knows what’s best

264 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:27:09pm

re: #256 Walter L. Newton

Nope… one last clue… a Kathleen Turner movie.

Ok… I have not Googled…… the one with Michael Douglas? I can’t think of the title….. the one where they slid down the mud-slide?

265 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:27:25pm

re: #249 palomino

I think it’s hilarious that the republican establishment got the crap kicked out of them during the primaries. To see Rove up there talking about what a disaster this all is? HA-Freaking-HA.

Are you going to argue that somehow it could possibly be worse? At this rate I’m just hoping they stop spending us into oblivion. I’ll gladly argue abortion, the 2nd amendment, drug laws, and wiccan theory when the unemployment rate drops below say 7%.

266 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:27:43pm

this is the most favorable political environment possible for the GOP, yet the regular republicans and the teabaggers are already at each other’s throats, and the tea party has palpably reduced the GOP’s chances of taking over congress

what will happen to the GOP when the worm turns once again?

267 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:27:47pm

re: #259 WindUpBird

is this where I patiently explain to you as if you are a small child about what happened to all the Dixiecrats after LBJ passed civil rights legislation?

because I’ve done that a lot, and it’s starting to bore me

To be fair, we kept many of them.

I can’t bring up Thurmond, though, because then I bring up Lott, and then Tradewind appears out of nowhere, and we have the same argument. I’m tryin’ to knock that off.

268 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:28:13pm

re: #262 Walter L. Newton

There has been homophobes and religious nuts in this country since the beginning, and I think out constitution has so far stood up to any challenges that has come from those idiots.

Which is why gays are allowed to marry.

Oh wait.

269 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:28:25pm

re: #257 SanFranciscoZionist

I don’t think the Republicans have learned anything, except that they really, really, want to win, and going hard right seems to have rewards at the moment.

I guess I just don’t see political vendetta as a learning tool, although I certainly get a high off it when my guys win.

I want payback damnit./

270 brownbagj  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:28:28pm

re: #254 WindUpBird

Ok. Cool. I do understand.

And, I am not just going to vote the opposite of whoever is in there. If the dem is a good person for Washington - they get my vote. I have done this in the past many times - and in the SOUTH!! Imagine that!

No party lines for me.

Again, I just want people to be free to live their lives, pursue their happiness and have our government be as big as necessary to protect our rights as humans and protect our soverienty. Beyond that, government should cease to grow - why? Because it will ALWAYS start to seep into our personal lives. I do believe that.

I believe, unfortunately, that politicians in both parties would sell us out in a New York minute if it would give them more power or keep them elected.

I am on your side way more often that not WUB. :)

271 Reginald Perrin  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:28:29pm

re: #237 brookly red

nationalized health care
nationalized the auto industry
payed off the unions
terrorized the banks
talked much shit.

Why do you keep acting like a troll?

272 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:28:36pm

re: #262 Walter L. Newton

There has been homophobes and religious nuts in this country since the beginning, and I think out constitution has so far stood up to any challenges that has come from those idiots.

Constitution does fine!

Actual fags on the other hand, sometimes we get fired, beat up, forced out of our jobs, forced out of our homes, stalked by very Concerned Mothers Of America who think we’re going to touch their christian son’s wee wee

But I heard that constitution, it’s a-ok

273 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:28:50pm

re: #264 Mr Pancakes

Ok… I have not Googled… the one with Michael Douglas? I can’t think of the title… the one where they slid down the mud-slide?

No, that’s Romancing the Stone, which is great, but I don’t recognize the quotes.

“Have you ever been to Colombia? I have. Your books sell very well in these macho countries. They have jungles, Joan! They have mosquitos the size of dump trucks!”

274 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:29:07pm

re: #267 SanFranciscoZionist

To be fair, we kept many of them.

I can’t bring up Thurmond, though, because then I bring up Lott, and then Tradewind appears out of nowhere, and we have the same argument. I’m tryin’ to knock that off.

Oh we kept a bunch, but they weren’t allowed to write the party platform, they had to fall in line

275 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:29:13pm

re: #264 Mr Pancakes

Ok… I have not Googled… the one with Michael Douglas? I can’t think of the title… the one where they slid down the mud-slide?

Crimes of Passion… if you haven’t seen it, you may not believe it. Turner did this in the middle of a very lucrative up and coming career. Great movie, if you like Ken Russell stuff… and a nice crazy performance by Tony Perkins.

276 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:29:43pm

re: #271 Reginald Perrin

Why do you keep acting like a troll?

Why? He’s a troll because he has a differing opinion from yours?

277 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:29:59pm

re: #270 brownbagj

I know I know, I’m just being saucy, I didn’t mean offense so much as I got triggered and sprung to life like a jack-in-the-box :D

278 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:30:05pm

re: #266 engineer dog

this is the most favorable political environment possible for the GOP, yet the regular republicans and the teabaggers are already at each other’s throats, and the tea party has palpably reduced the GOP’s chances of taking over congress

what will happen to the GOP when the worm turns once again?

good point. the GOP will either adapt to the populist will or die… plain and simple.

279 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:30:26pm

re: #271 Reginald Perrin

Why do you keep acting like a troll?

bite me

280 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:30:26pm

re: #267 SanFranciscoZionist

To be fair, we kept many of them.

I can’t bring up Thurmond, though, because then I bring up Lott, and then Tradewind appears out of nowhere, and we have the same argument. I’m tryin’ to knock that off.

You know what still gets me about Thurmond? That he as a 22 year old college student raped a 16 year old black maid and got her pregnant. Paid her and supported the child till his death.

disgusting.

disgusting.

281 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:30:43pm

re: #268 Obdicut

Which is why gays are allowed to marry.

Oh wait.

Nate Silver says Mississippi is the last to to recognize, and they go by 2024.

My mother hopes that’s true. She has terrible images of Mississippi passing up California in legalizing gay marriage. She finds it very embarrassing that Iowa beat us out.

282 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:30:51pm

re: #275 Walter L. Newton

Crimes of Passion… if you haven’t seen it, you may not believe it. Turner did this in the middle of a very lucrative up and coming career. Great movie, if you like Ken Russell stuff… and a nice crazy performance by Tony Perkins.

I will get that movie Walter…. thanks. Always looking for recommendations.

283 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:30:51pm

re: #265 RogueOne

If you stop spending now, what will happen is another recession, just like when government spending was restricted after the recovery started from the Great Depression.

Image: 20081117-ef7d74m2gnw9citedndea81xqh.jpg

284 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:31:07pm

re: #269 RogueOne

I want payback damnit./

I got payback. Now I’m gonna need more payback after November. And so it goes.

285 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:31:15pm

re: #276 Mr Pancakes

Why? He’s a troll because he has a differing opinion from yours?

well yes that is the standard lingo… not to worry.

286 AlexRogan  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:31:25pm

re: #237 brookly red

nationalized health care
nationalized the auto industry
payed off the unions
terrorized the banks
talked much shit.

Now you’re just talking outta your ass, regurgitating TPer talking points.

287 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:32:22pm

re: #273 SanFranciscoZionist

No, that’s Romancing the Stone, which is great, but I don’t recognize the quotes.

“Have you ever been to Colombia? I have. Your books sell very well in these macho countries. They have jungles, Joan! They have mosquitos the size of dump trucks!”

That was the end of Grogan… the man who killed my father, raped and murdered my sister, burned my ranch, shot my dog, and stole my Bible!

288 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:32:23pm

re: #281 SanFranciscoZionist

Nate Silver says Mississippi is the last to to recognize, and they go by 2024.

My mother hopes that’s true. She has terrible images of Mississippi passing up California in legalizing gay marriage. She finds it very embarrassing that Iowa beat us out.

Iowa is in someways a very liberal state. There are a lot of Northern European types living there.

289 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:32:54pm

re: #278 brookly red

good point. the GOP will either adapt to the populist will or die… plain and simple.

so your idea of “populist will” is completely consonant with everything that the teabaggers want?

290 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:33:06pm

My point of course is this: political CLIMATE matters. Not just the laws that get passed. The CLIMATE matters. And right now Republicans are making the political climate vicious and toxic, and real people get to hear this psycho ultra-social-conservative rhetoric, and the dumber among these real people believe the hateful paranoid shit they hear, and repeat it and act on it

And this aforementioned shit affects me and people I know, whether a law gets passed or not

291 brownbagj  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:33:10pm

re: #277 WindUpBird

No worries. I was really worried that somehow I had misrepresented what I think and did not want to be lumped in with teh crazies. :)

As for what you have suffered, and others who are gay, bi, trans, lesbian - I do feel for you.

I have wept for a friend of mine. Many times. Not only at the physical scars, but the emotional pain she has suffered through NO CHOICE of her own.

She is as God created her. And I lover her dearly and call her friend and support he quest for freedom as much as I possibly can.

292 AlexRogan  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:33:30pm

re: #264 Mr Pancakes

Ok… I have not Googled… the one with Michael Douglas? I can’t think of the title… the one where they slid down the mud-slide?

It’s definitely not Romancing the Stone or Jewel of the Nile…

293 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:34:07pm

re: #289 engineer dog

so your idea of “populist will” is completely consonant with everything that the teabaggers want?

for an engineer you really suck at math.

294 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:34:48pm

re: #288 RogueOne

Iowa is in someways a very liberal state. There are a lot of Northern European types living there.

They seem like a perfectly nice state, my mother just resents it when anyone outliberals California. That this happens all the time doesn’t stop her from resenting it.

295 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:35:05pm

re: #253 HoosierHoops

I think the Dutch Nationalized system is the best in the world..My buddy loves it…

Dutch treat?

//

296 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:35:38pm

Evening lizards!

297 brownbagj  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:36:06pm

Ok - now that WUB and I are cool - I am going to bed with the best family on earth.

I know everyone thinks their family is, but mine REALLY is. :)

G’nite.

298 Reginald Perrin  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:36:13pm

re: #276 Mr Pancakes

Why? He’s a troll because he has a differing opinion from yours?

I didn’t say he was a troll, I asked him why he was acting like one. It’s obvious he gets his kicks out of stirring up shit. Do you agree with brookly and believe that health care was nationalized?

299 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:36:15pm

re: #293 brookly red

for an engineer you really suck at math.

That’s incredibly assuming…. maybe he works for Amtrak? Hmmmmmm?

300 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:36:21pm

re: #283 Obdicut

If you stop spending now, what will happen is another recession, just like when government spending was restricted after the recovery started from the Great Depression.

Image: 20081117-ef7d74m2gnw9citedndea81xqh.jpg

My turn to ask a question: How do you figure?

301 brookly red  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:36:33pm

please hold your hate for 20 minutes or so, I gotta go to the store…

302 prairiefire  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:36:46pm

re: #237 brookly red

nationalized health care
nationalized the auto industry
payed off the unions
terrorized the banks
talked much shit.

I don’t think you understand the issues.

303 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:37:06pm

re: #292 talon_262

It’s definitely not Romancing the Stone or Jewel of the Nile…

No… it’s “Crimes of Passion.” For a 1984 movie, very sexually vivid, and Turner does full frontal nudity… she play a hooker.

imdb.com

304 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:37:25pm

re: #296 NJDhockeyfan

Evening lizards!

Glad to have you. It’s a political donnybrook tonight. I hope you brought your brass knuckles.

305 prairiefire  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:38:04pm

re: #303 Walter L. Newton

No… it’s “Crimes of Passion.” For a 1984 movie, very sexually vivid, and Turner does full frontal nudity… she play a hooker.

[Link: www.imdb.com…]

A tied up one, if I recall.

306 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:38:05pm

I might ever vote GOOP again if the cleanup bill for all that sloppy santorum weren’t so steep.

Seriously the fucking dueling signs are already up here in the hood and I can’t imagine pulling the lever for a single name.

I hereby retire my citizenship, such as it was. You guys fight it out and let me know what happens.

I have other options in at least four sane countries.

307 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:38:20pm

re: #297 brownbagj

Ok - now that WUB and I are cool - I am going to bed with the best family on earth.

I know everyone thinks their family is, but mine REALLY is. :)

G’nite.

Check out brownbagj’s award winning avatar!

308 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:38:28pm

re: #293 brookly red

for an engineer you really suck at math.

i’m sure that’s correct but you still didn’t address the import of my question

everybody thinks that they know what “the will of the people” is, and somehow this is always exactly what they believe themselves

309 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:38:59pm

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

My turn to ask a question: How do you figure?

How do I figure what, Dark?

We may actually be really out of the woods from this recession, and able to cut spending. But we still shouldn’t; we should be launching a Manhattan-project level of spending on alternative energy.

We should certainly cut spending on crap that is useless. That is always good. But we need to spend a shitload, right now, on alternative energy. Or we will be surpassed by that in China— and that’s the best-case scenario. The worst is AGW, unmitigated, wreaking havoc with our food supply.

310 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:39:05pm

re: #283 Obdicut

If you stop spending now, what will happen is another recession, just like when government spending was restricted after the recovery started from the Great Depression.

Image: 20081117-ef7d74m2gnw9citedndea81xqh.jpg

That’s a good theory and one that would be easy to argue except we have the evidence of roughly a trillion dollars in spending (almost 10x the amounts in that graph) in front of us and it hasn’t been any help to the economy. It’s possible, just possible, that all that spending boosted our economy by a percentage point but I don’t really see that as money well spent. Toss in all the unintended consequences of the cash for clunkers, the housing tax cut, as a matter-of-fact ALL of housing programs failed, and it’s not a pretty picture.

311 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:39:33pm

re: #292 talon_262

It’s definitely not Romancing the Stone or Jewel of the Nile…

Great line…

Rev. Shayne: Save your soul, whore!
China: Save your money, shithead!

312 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:39:35pm

re: #298 Reginald Perrin

I didn’t say he was a troll, I asked him why he was acting like one. It’s obvious he gets his kicks out of stirring up shit. Do you agree with brookly and believe that health care was nationalized?

You are mighty “nuanced” there Reggie with your troll description …….. I’m just pissed that I won’t be able to collect my well deserved health care for another 4 fucking years goddamit……. what’s up with that Reggie? Huh?

313 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:39:35pm

re: #304 Dark_Falcon

Glad to have you. It’s a political donnybrook tonight. I hope you brought your brass knuckles.

I missed some fun? What’s the issue tonight?

314 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:40:09pm

re: #299 Mr Pancakes

That’s incredibly assuming… maybe he works for Amtrak? Hmmm?

actually, software engineers don’t have to be any good at math at all. we are merely required to be obsessive-compulsive and infuriatingly stubborn

315 prairiefire  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:40:25pm

re: #310 RogueOne

That’s a good theory and one that would be easy to argue except we have the evidence of roughly a trillion dollars in spending (almost 10x the amounts in that graph) in front of us and it hasn’t been any help to the economy. It’s possible, just possible, that all that spending boosted our economy by a percentage point but I don’t really see that as money well spent. Toss in all the unintended consequences of the cash for clunkers, the housing tax cut, as a matter-of-fact ALL of housing programs failed, and it’s not a pretty picture.

What are the unintended consequences?

316 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:40:40pm

re: #315 prairiefire

What are the unintended consequences?

COMMUNISM!

317 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:40:47pm

re: #313 NJDhockeyfan

I missed some fun? What’s the issue tonight?

November fast approacheth. That’s about it. I don’t think we have any actual new stuff we’re discussing.

318 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:40:48pm

re: #306 Cato the Elder

I might ever vote GOOP again if the cleanup bill for all that sloppy santorum weren’t so steep.

Seriously the fucking dueling signs are already up here in the hood and I can’t imagine pulling the lever for a single name.

I hereby retire my citizenship, such as it was. You guys fight it out and let me know what happens.

I have other options in at least four sane countries.

You lie. No one wants you but Baltimore./

319 Escaped Hillbilly  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:40:49pm

re: #9 SanFranciscoZionist

She says something about blood on an altar. It’s possible that some asshole high school kid gutted a rat or something on an ‘altar’. It’s also possible that her gullible high-school-aged self believed the crap her ‘high priestess’ girlfriend (also aged sixteen) told her, and there was no actual blood.

Ha! When we were kids we used to play a game called witchie-poo. Take all the crap you can find under the sink in the kitchen or on our parents bathroom shelf and mix it in a bucket or big pot…bonus poiunts if you can get it to boil, change colors, sponteneously combust, or smoke. We also made voo-doo dolls of our teachers. Fun! Don’t all kids go through these little stages? I am willing to cut her a little slack on this one. It won’t help her anyway so I can afford to be generous. Even O’Reilly thinks she’s batty.

320 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:40:50pm

re: #305 prairiefire

A tied up one, if I recall.

What ever your fantasy… actually a good movie, imo, and Turner really does a stretch considering that she was between some really career changing movies at the time.

321 prairiefire  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:40:53pm

re: #314 engineer dog

actually, software engineers don’t have to be any good at math at all. we are merely required to be obsessive-compulsive and infuriatingly stubborn

So you’ve met my husband, then?/

322 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:41:39pm

re: #319 Escaped Hillbilly

Ha! When we were kids we used to play a game called witchie-poo. Take all the crap you can find under the sink in the kitchen or on our parents bathroom shelf and mix it in a bucket or big pot…bonus poiunts if you can get it to boil, change colors, sponteneously combust, or smoke.

I’m surprised none of you died of chemical pneumonia. Good God.

Sounds fun.

323 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:42:00pm

re: #315 prairiefire

What are the unintended consequences?

Someone got what he didn’t?

324 AlexRogan  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:42:13pm

re: #307 Stanley Sea

Check out brownbagj’s award winning avatar!

Can’t go wrong with Gary Busey (or Willem Dafoe) for Freaky-Looking Horsemouth Sonsofbitches… ;-)

325 Reginald Perrin  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:42:15pm

re: #312 Mr Pancakes

You didn’t answer my question, do you agree with brookly when he claims that health care was nationalized by President Obama?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

326 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:43:02pm

re: #310 RogueOne

it hasn’t been any help to the economy.

Demonstrably untrue.

usatoday.com

cnbc.com

nytimes.com


nytimes.com

I don’t really see that as money well spent

Shocking.

327 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:43:38pm

re: #315 prairiefire

What are the unintended consequences?

The cash for clunkers depressed car sales for months after a one time jump. We’re set to lose billions in the GM IPO and it put a wild fluctuation in the steel market which cost me jobs. We’ve all seen what has continued to happen in the housing market and state government shortfalls. The stimulus only delayed the inevitable.

328 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:45:58pm

if the tea party ever gets in charge of congress, they will find out what it is like to go up against all the powerful multinational corporations who they fondly imagine to be their best buddies

329 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:46:05pm

re: #317 SanFranciscoZionist

November fast approacheth. That’s about it. I don’t think we have any actual new stuff we’re discussing.

I have a news story if you’re interested…

Fund-raiser: Jesse Jackson Jr. behind $6M Senate-seat scheme

Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. directed a major political fund-raiser to offer former Gov. Rod Blagojevich millions of dollars in campaign cash in return for an appointment to the U.S. Senate, sources said the fund-raiser has told federal authorities.

The allegation by Oak Brook businessman Raghuveer Nayak counters public statements made as recently as last week by Jackson that he never authorized any deal to attempt to buy the Senate seat.

Nayak also told authorities he paid for two airline trips for a “social acquaintance” of the Democratic congressman at Jackson’s request, raising more potential ethical and political problems for Jackson.

The FBI interviewed that acquaintance — a Washington, D.C., restaurant hostess named Giovana Huidobro — about a year ago as part of its corruption probe of Blagojevich. Authorities were trying to determine whether Jackson had asked Nayak to offer Blagojevich campaign cash in exchange for the then-governor appointing Jackson to the seat once held by President Obama, according to sources with knowledge of the probe.

330 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:46:28pm

re: #314 engineer dog

actually, software engineers don’t have to be any good at math at all. we are merely required to be obsessive-compulsive and infuriatingly stubborn

You are a Software Engineer? Awesome…I was slamming MS just hours ago..They really pissed me off..They completely changed the way CA Servers work with security private keys anymore on Mobile devices…The security we use doesn’t even work anymore.. Everybody got cut out for compatibility..
I Now hate Microsoft’s vision of the security world with certificate deployment…Effen you Microsoft!

331 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:46:50pm

Burn all this shit down and start from scratch.

332 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:47:06pm

re: #330 HoosierHoops

Micro$oft+Security=LOL

333 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:47:14pm

re: #327 RogueOne

The stimulus only delayed the inevitable.

Which is?

334 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:47:21pm

re: #325 Reginald Perrin

You didn’t answer my question, do you agree with brookly when he claims that health care was nationalized by President Obama?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

I’m all for it being Nationalized silly since I don’t have any…. duh. Is it nationalized now? No it’s not……. I don’t have health care…… what more do you want out of me Reggie?

335 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:47:34pm

re: #328 engineer dog

if the tea party ever gets in charge of congress, they will find out what it is like to go up against all the powerful multinational corporations who they fondly imagine to be their best buddies

And that’s the key to it all… most of the politicians in DC are beholden to the powerful multinational corporations.

336 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:47:57pm

re: #309 Obdicut

How do I figure what, Dark?

We may actually be really out of the woods from this recession, and able to cut spending. But we still shouldn’t; we should be launching a Manhattan-project level of spending on alternative energy.

We should certainly cut spending on crap that is useless. That is always good. But we need to spend a shitload, right now, on alternative energy. Or we will be surpassed by that in China— and that’s the best-case scenario. The worst is AGW, unmitigated, wreaking havoc with our food supply.

There’s no money for a “Manhattan Project” on anything. We’re out of money and have to cut back. If China takes the lead, then they do. We need to get our house in order, then think big again. Now is a time for thinking small.

337 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:48:05pm

re: #329 NJDhockeyfan

I have a news story if you’re interested…

Fund-raiser: Jesse Jackson Jr. behind $6M Senate-seat scheme

Sounds plausible enough.

338 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:48:20pm

re: #335 Walter L. Newton

And that’s the key to it all… most of the politicians in DC are beholden to the powerful multinational corporations.

Building Better Worlds™.

339 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:49:39pm

Anyone watching Maddow?

340 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:49:59pm

re: #329 NJDhockeyfan

I have a news story if you’re interested…

Fund-raiser: Jesse Jackson Jr. behind $6M Senate-seat scheme

Ha! That’ll seal the deal for Brady and Kirk. The Dems look like sleezoids behind this one and there’s no time for the stench to wash away.

341 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:50:23pm

re: #339 Stanley Sea

Anyone watching Maddow?

NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But then my cable company doesn’t has MSNBC.

342 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:50:28pm

re: #336 Dark_Falcon

There’s no money for a “Manhattan Project” on anything. We’re out of money and have to cut back

We are not out of money, no. We are an incredibly, vastly wealthy nation. We have taxes at a historically low level.

Can you explain what you mean by saying we are out of money?

343 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:50:43pm

WUB turn it on

344 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:50:59pm

re: #326 Obdicut

Headline of the 1st article:

Economists See a Limited Boost From Stimulus

or…it was delay of the inevitable which is what I just said. I find it shocking that you think a trillion dollars is a good deal for a 4% increase in unemployment, home foreclosures at a record high, losing a few billion in the GM IPO, and the list goes on…. I don’t think any of this is surprising. Maybe “unexpected” since we’ve heard that in the press it seams for the entire last year. “unexpectedly bad” has been the constant meme.

345 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:51:15pm

re: #337 SanFranciscoZionist

Sounds plausible enough.

Chicago politics are never boring.

346 Escaped Hillbilly  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:51:24pm

I am too tired to participate meaningfully. Good night all.

347 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:51:46pm

re: #344 RogueOne

Headline of the 1st article:

Economists See a Limited Boost From Stimulus

or…it was delay of the inevitable which is what I just said.

You haven’t explained what ‘the inevitable’ is, yet.

I find it shocking that you think a trillion dollars is a good deal for a 4% increase in unemployment, home foreclosures at a record high, losing a few billion in the GM IPO, and the list goes on

Yes. That’s exactly what I said.

If you can’t argue honestly, don’t bother.

348 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:52:10pm

re: #341 Mr Pancakes

NEVER!!!

But then my cable company doesn’t has MSNBC.

You should send them a thank you note and listen to morning joe on sirius.

349 Reginald Perrin  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:52:54pm

re: #334 Mr Pancakes

I’m all for it being Nationalized silly since I don’t have any… duh. Is it nationalized now? No it’s not… I don’t have health care… what more do you want out of me Reggie?

I didn’t want anything from you besides an answer to whether or not you agree with brookly, you don’t. Don’t you think it was rather childish of brookly to make that claim on a blog like LGF? It is an insult to the lizzards intelligence to read comments like that, that was a long debunked talking point and he posted it to piss people off.

350 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:53:15pm

re: #348 RogueOne

You should send them a thank you note and listen to morning joe on sirius.

Well…… I tell ya I’ve never complained.

351 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:53:28pm

re: #332 Varek Raith

Micro$oft+Security=LOL

We use a superior product to register and enroll CA certs on mobile devices..
Microsoft saw that and now Funk security no longer will work..So now we have to deploy MS security patches on all our mobile devices in the Americas..
The app..(if you can call it that ) Is buggy and not consistent in cert registration…in other words..It sucks and MS CA servers won’t work with non MS private keys..

352 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:53:40pm

re: #345 NJDhockeyfan

Chicago politics are never boring.

True.

353 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:53:46pm

re: #349 Reginald Perrin

I didn’t want anything from you besides an answer to whether or not you agree with brookly, you don’t. Don’t you think it was rather childish of brookly to make that claim on a blog like LGF? It is an insult to the lizzards intelligence to read comments like that, that was a long debunked talking point and he posted it to piss people off.

If so, sounds like you took the bait. LOL.

354 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:53:51pm

re: #334 Mr Pancakes

I’m all for it being Nationalized silly since I don’t have any… duh. Is it nationalized now? No it’s not… I don’t have health care… what more do you want out of me Reggie?

Mr. P. You need a syrup infusion or something? Reg is one of the good ones imho.

355 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:54:09pm

re: #351 HoosierHoops

We use a superior product to register and enroll CA certs on mobile devices..
Microsoft saw that and now Funk security no longer will work..So now we have to deploy MS security patches on all our mobile devices in the Americas..
The app..(if you can call it that ) Is buggy and not consistent in cert registration…in other words..It sucks and MS CA servers won’t work with non MS private keys..

Damn, they really screwed you guys over.
:/

356 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:54:53pm

re: #339 Stanley Sea

Anyone watching Maddow?

What’s a Maddow?

357 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:55:52pm

Empire thinking small = end of empire.

Of course the average citizen of said empire denies it’s an empire.

First empire ever to die of self-denial?

All the smart money is already in China.

358 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:56:11pm

re: #353 Walter L. Newton

If so, sounds like you took the bait. LOL.

And no sense of humor either.

359 weave  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:56:14pm

Hey Delaware GOP: Google never forgets. “Christine O’Donnell’s unwillingness to respond to her campaign’s potentially illegal conduct speaks volumes about her character and integrity,” Delaware GOP Chairman Tom Ross said today.

j.mp

360 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:56:14pm

McCain on Maddow. this is pretty big

361 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:57:09pm

re: #330 HoosierHoops

You are a Software Engineer? Awesome…I was slamming MS just hours ago..They really pissed me off..They completely changed the way CA Servers work with security private keys anymore on Mobile devices…The security we use doesn’t even work anymore.. Everybody got cut out for compatibility..
I Now hate Microsoft’s vision of the security world with certificate deployment…Effen you Microsoft!

are you a network engineer?

362 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:57:34pm

re: #353 Walter L. Newton

If so, sounds like you took the bait. LOL.

dumbing down LGF

363 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:57:36pm

re: #360 Stanley Sea

McCain on Maddow. this is pretty big

Is this a porn movie you’re watching?

364 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:57:52pm

re: #347 Obdicut

I did explain the inevitable. Increased spending didn’t accomplish anything in any market other than paying out bankers and the afl-cio. Toss in a bunch of money into the auto market (Cash for clunkers) and everyone who is thinking about a new car jumps in and buys one…..then no one needs or wants any for the next year. GM paid off part of its debt by taking more money from us and giving it back and now they’re trying to sell their crappy stock we freaking own at a major loss. Repeat plan (toss in money) for housing market and we have a record month last month in home foreclosures. Pass HCR which was supposed to lower health care costs and find out that isn’t working either.

I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt in believing these consequences are “unintended”. Are you saying this was the whole plan and we should reward them with even more power and seats?

365 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:58:50pm

re: #350 Mr Pancakes

Well… I tell ya I’ve never complained.

I think cable news programs should be outlawed. I’ll make a deal, you guys can have McCain-Feingold back if we can get rid of cable news.

366 Reginald Perrin  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:59:01pm

re: #353 Walter L. Newton

re: #353 Walter L. Newton

How is pointing out someone’s trollish behavior taking the bait?

367 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:59:02pm

re: #362 Stanley Sea

dumbing down LGF

Yes… he did.

368 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:59:17pm

re: #364 RogueOne

I did explain the inevitable.

No, you didn’t. You still haven’t. Please do.

369 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:59:38pm

re: #363 NJDhockeyfan

Is this a porn movie you’re watching?

No, just McCain on tape major fail on DADT. McCain was kind of freaking out so that should make you look.

370 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:00:21pm

re: #342 Obdicut

We are not out of money, no. We are an incredibly, vastly wealthy nation. We have taxes at a historically low level.

Can you explain what you mean by saying we are out of money?

Any vast undertaking will just get fuck to death and no one wants a substantial tax increase to finance a big project. Right now, America’s got problems that need small solutions and time. It’s not “morning in America”, just a long walk through the night. Big plans won’t work, so let’s keep things small and fix things patiently.

371 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:00:44pm

re: #349 Reginald Perrin

I didn’t want anything from you besides an answer to whether or not you agree with brookly, you don’t. Don’t you think it was rather childish of brookly to make that claim on a blog like LGF? It is an insult to the lizzards intelligence to read comments like that, that was a long debunked talking point and he posted it to piss people off.

Whatever man, I don’t think it was childish at all…… I can appreciate his dislike for national health care… in his mind it’s a done deal. Perhaps he has health care and views on nationalized health care is a threat to him.

I want heath care to be nationalized…… and it won’t come soon enough for me….. what’s wrong with you Reggie?

372 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:01:44pm

re: #369 Stanley Sea

No, just McCain on tape major fail on DADT. McCain was kind of freaking out so that should make you look.

I’m watching baseball. Much more entertaining than either McCain or MSNBC.

373 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:02:02pm

re: #354 Stanley Sea

Mr. P. You need a syrup infusion or something? Reg is one of the good ones imho.

I still want to cover you in syrup Stanley…….

374 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:02:10pm

re: #361 engineer dog

are you a network engineer?

I’m a System Admin

375 Reginald Perrin  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:02:31pm

re: #371 Mr Pancakes

You don’t think it is childish to troll a blog?

376 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:02:41pm

re: #370 Dark_Falcon

Any vast undertaking will just get fuck to death and no one wants a substantial tax increase to finance a big project. Right now, America’s got problems that need small solutions and time. It’s not “morning in America”, just a long walk through the night. Big plans won’t work, so let’s keep things small and fix things patiently.

You didn’t answer why you are saying we’re out of money. You are now changing your argument to say the political will to have a tax increase isn’t there. Is that your new position?

Small plans won’t work. They really won’t work. Big plans may not work, but small plans don’t even have a chance to work.

377 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:03:27pm

re: #371 Mr Pancakes

Whatever man, I don’t think it was childish at all… I can appreciate his dislike for national health care… in his mind it’s a done deal. Perhaps he has health care and views on nationalized health care is a threat to him.

I want heath care to be nationalized… and it won’t come soon enough for me… what’s wrong with you Reggie?

It’s simply silly. We don’t have nationalized health care, and we won’t have nationalized health care. We’ve argued what we will have half to death, but nationalized health care we ain’t got.

I have health care. I also have every confidence that Kaiser is going to survive the Great Obamacare.

378 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:03:50pm

re: #336 Dark_Falcon

There’s no money for a “Manhattan Project” on anything. We’re out of money and have to cut back. If China takes the lead, then they do. We need to get our house in order, then think big again. Now is a time for thinking small.

If China gets ahead, we’re dead. D-E-A-D. Dead. They will steamroller us and we’ll never recover. 1000 years from now they will talk about the futility of Tom Jefferson’s experiment with democracy and how foolish it was in the long run.

Keynes’ General Theory is the only way out of this mess. If we cut back now, we end up making the stupidity of 1937-38 look like a walk in the park.

379 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:03:51pm

I just don’t give a shit anymore.

380 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:04:25pm

re: #375 Reginald Perrin

You don’t think it is childish to troll a blog?

Yea… so stoppit!

381 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:06:39pm

re: #376 Obdicut

You didn’t answer why you are saying we’re out of money. You are now changing your argument to say the political will to have a tax increase isn’t there. Is that your new position?

Small plans won’t work. They really won’t work. Big plans may not work, but small plans don’t even have a chance to work.

We’re swimming in red ink and the kind of taxes needed for big projects would just induce a double-dip recession. We don’t have the money+will needed to fund a massive undertaking. It’s not just the money/tax issue, most people don’t believe that the federal government can manage such a program effectively.

382 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:07:06pm

re: #373 Mr Pancakes

I still want to cover you in syrup Stanley…

Oh well… I guess we’re not buddies anymore….. sigh.

383 Reginald Perrin  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:07:09pm

re: #380 Mr Pancakes

Yea… so stoppit!

I will stop when Charles ask me to stop.

384 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:08:48pm

re: #383 Reginald Perrin

I will stop when Charles ask me to stop.

Whatever dude…… it’s weird since we both agree on health care.

Whatever floats your boat man.

385 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:09:18pm

re: #374 HoosierHoops

I’m a System Admin

fortunately for developers like myself, MS doesn’t get to fuck with the C or Java languages quite as much as it does with system utilities. my sympathies

386 Vambo  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:09:52pm

4chan just hacked the Tea Party website…

teapartyorg.ning.com

387 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:12:52pm

It’s know to be true that Christine O’Donnell is merely one avatar of a vast psychic fungal intelligence that resides in the Amundsen Abyssal Plain

388 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:13:07pm

re: #386 Vambo

4chan just hacked the Tea Party website…

[Link: teapartyorg.ning.com…]

Not cool. Not a fan of hackers.

389 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:13:27pm

re: #386 Vambo

4chan just hacked the Tea Party website…

[Link: teapartyorg.ning.com…]

Who is 4chan?

390 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:13:35pm

re: #386 Vambo

4chan just hacked the Tea Party website…

[Link: teapartyorg.ning.com…]

oh dear, hahahahahahaha

391 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:14:11pm

re: #381 Dark_Falcon

We’re swimming in red ink and the kind of taxes needed for big projects would just induce a double-dip recession.

You have no basis for that. At all.

We don’t have the money+will needed to fund a massive undertaking.

So this is your new position?

It’s not just the money/tax issue, most people don’t believe that the federal government can manage such a program effectively.

There is no other option. Do you understand that?

392 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:14:42pm

re: #382 Mr Pancakes

We could be friends, but you are on a not good roll, and pretty much made me cringe with your post.

393 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:15:13pm

re: #386 Vambo

4chan just hacked the Tea Party website…

[Link: teapartyorg.ning.com…]

for real??? lol

394 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:15:14pm

re: #389 NJDhockeyfan

Who is 4chan?

It’s one of the most visited sites in the country, it’s an internet imageboard full of pranksters

395 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:15:22pm

re: #385 engineer dog

fortunately for developers like myself, MS doesn’t get to fuck with the C or Java languages quite as much as it does with system utilities. my sympathies

It’s a little petty, but one of the biggest reasons I stay with Lisp is that MS has no fingers in that pie at all. It’s got it’s own really strange freaking history (any language where Stallman is not the craziest loon in the party is way beyond weird!) but so long as there is nothing stupid coming our of Redmond, I can live with it.

396 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:15:38pm

re: #393 Stanley Sea

That’s not a real teaparty site, I don’t think. I think it’s just a parody site.

397 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:16:45pm

re: #394 WindUpBird

It’s one of the most visited sites in the country, it’s an internet imageboard full of pranksters

I never knew that. I just don’t get out enough.

398 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:16:47pm

re: #390 WindUpBird

oh dear, hahahahahahaha

THIS IS HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

399 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:17:30pm

teapartyorg.ning.com

400 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:18:00pm

re: #381 Dark_Falcon


You seem to believe that our collective ship isn’t sinking

I submit that it is, and we need big, scary and expensive (and thus more likely to be effective) solutions quickly

You seem to believe that you can “conservatively” put out a fire, you know, work slow and patiently

As the fire spreads and burns everything down

401 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:18:06pm

re: #396 Obdicut

That’s not a real teaparty site, I don’t think. I think it’s just a parody site.

DAMMIT

402 prairiefire  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:18:28pm

re: #373 Mr Pancakes

I still want to cover you in syrup Stanley…

Sexist comment.

403 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:19:04pm

re: #388 Dark_Falcon

Not cool. Not a fan of hcrackers.

Get your terminology straight, hackers hack, crackers crack.

404 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:19:07pm

re: #397 NJDhockeyfan

I never knew that. I just don’t get out enough.

It’s basically for people like me and younger, mostly college kids and teens, internet humor, image macros

If you’ve heard of “Rickrolling” it came from 4chan

405 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:19:39pm

re: #392 Stanley Sea

We could be friends, but you are on a not good roll, and pretty much made me cringe with your post.

You cringed because I don’t agree with Brookly?

406 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:19:52pm

re: #395 wlewisiii

It’s a little petty, but one of the biggest reasons I stay with Lisp is that MS has no fingers in that pie at all. It’s got it’s own really strange freaking history (any language where Stallman is not the craziest loon in the party is way beyond weird!) but so long as there is nothing stupid coming our of Redmond, I can live with it.

LISP is beautiful, and stallman gives me a big pain in the butt

btw, i brought a date back to my apartment once, and when she saw that i had a bunch of books labelled “LISP”, she got a little freaked out until i explained to her that i didn’t have an unusual interest in speech impediments

407 Vambo  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:20:01pm

Actually, it looks like no one “hacked” the site… it’s just a bunch of silly gooses uploading (porno!!) pics to the Tea Party site.

408 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:20:20pm

re: #396 Obdicut

if you go to the end of the photos, there’s a bunch of “real” ones

409 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:20:44pm

re: #404 WindUpBird

It’s basically for people like me and younger, mostly college kids and teens, internet humor, image macros

If you’ve heard of “Rickrolling” it came from 4chan

It also appeals to us elders with a sense of humor.

410 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:21:18pm

re: #403 goddamnedfrank

Get your terminology straight, hackers hack, crackers crack.

That war was lost a centrury ago but you get the upding for trying, anyway.

411 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:22:26pm

re: #407 Vambo

Actually, it looks like no one “hacked” the site… it’s just a bunch of silly gooses uploading (porno!!) pics to the Tea Party site.

Oh moderators, asleep at the switch

412 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:22:37pm

re: #402 prairiefire

Sexist comment.

Well…… if that was perceived as sexist I apologize…… wasn’t meant to be.

413 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:22:49pm

re: #409 Stanley Sea

It also appeals to us elders with a sense of humor.

You’re not that much older than me, I thought!

414 Vambo  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:22:56pm

Yes, apparently all you have to do is: 1. become a member of Tea Party.org, and 2. upload pics to your heart’s desire.

This guy rocks:
teapartyorg.ning.com

Do not visit “MeatSpinDotCom” though, I warn you.

415 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:23:48pm

re: #404 WindUpBird

It’s basically for people like me and younger, mostly college kids and teens, internet humor, image macros

If you’ve heard of “Rickrolling” it came from 4chan

Rickrolling….never heard of it. Is it like teabagging?

416 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:24:16pm

Christine O’Donnell does not sleep, she waits

417 ihateronpaul  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:24:20pm

If any of you are unfortunate enough to not know who William S. Burroughs is, this is not implying that o’donnel is a master of the english language. it’s implying that she is COMPLETELY BATSHIT INSANE

418 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:24:20pm

re: #413 WindUpBird

You’re not that much older than me, I thought!

talk to me in the morning. I’m ancient.

419 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:24:29pm

re: #407 Vambo

Actually, it looks like no one “hacked” the site… it’s just a bunch of silly gooses uploading (porno!!) pics to the Tea Party site.

Oy, moderation fail!

420 windsagio  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:24:31pm

“When Christine O’Donnell enters, no men leave”

421 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:24:54pm

re: #415 NJDhockeyfan

Rickrolling…never heard of it. Is it like teabagging?

Youtube Video

422 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:25:22pm

re: #412 Mr Pancakes

It was. It was pretty out there. Just relax right now, I’m trying to.

423 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:26:18pm

re: #422 Stanley Sea

It was. It was pretty out there. Just relax right now, I’m trying to.

No worries………

Tough crowd

424 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:26:25pm

re: #415 NJDhockeyfan

Rickrolling…never heard of it. Is it like teabagging?


From wiki

Rickrolling is an Internet meme[1][2] typically involving the music video for the 1987 Rick Astley song “Never Gonna Give You Up”. The meme is a bait and switch: a person provides a hyperlink that they claim is relevant to the topic at hand, but the link actually takes the user to the Astley video. The link can be masked or obfuscated in some manner so that the user cannot determine the true destination of the link without clicking. When a person clicks on the link and is led to the web page, he or she is said to have been “rickrolled”. Rickrolling has extended beyond web links to playing the video or song disruptively in other situations, including public places;[2] this culminated when Astley and the song made a surprise appearance in the 2008 Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade,[1] a televised event with tens of millions of viewers.
425 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:27:25pm

re: #421 WindUpBird

Do you know MY INCREASED APPRECIATION OF THIS SONG? I love it now. thanks!

426 prairiefire  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:28:17pm

My friend was watchin “Mad Men” with her brother who is 12 years younger. He said “I can’t believe the way they talk to the women!” She said “yeah, it used to be that way pretty much 24/7.”

427 bubba zanetti  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:28:24pm

re: #386 Vambo

Confirmed, it’s a raid by /b/

boards.4chan.org

428 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:28:32pm

re: #423 Mr Pancakes

Not the crowd, moi. And Reginald.

429 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:28:53pm

re: #427 bubba zanetti

Confirmed, it’s a raid by /b/

[Link: boards.4chan.org…]

NSFW, btw.

430 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:30:26pm

re: #400 WindUpBird

I decline to answer.

431 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:32:02pm

re: #428 Stanley Sea

Not the crowd, moi. And Reginald.

You’re cool Stanley…. I won’t comment on Reggie.

432 Lidane  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:43:54pm

re: #389 NJDhockeyfan

Who is 4chan?

They’re the folks who went after Scientology as Anonymous:

en.wikipedia.org

433 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:44:18pm

From the third edition, the term “goblinoid” has been reserved for goblins, hobgoblins, Christine O’Donnell, and similar creatures. Christine O’Donnell is much more explicitly reptilian in current AD&D editions. The Greyhawk Player’s Guide said Christine O’Donnell has “certain features that are both reptilian and doglike.”

434 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:45:57pm

“On the wall is a carving of Christine O’Donnell and elephants. Christine O’Donnell is surrounded by the elephants. The elephants are on fire.”

435 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:46:50pm

re: #433 WindUpBird

From the third edition, the term “goblinoid” has been reserved for goblins, hobgoblins, Christine O’Donnell, and similar creatures. Christine O’Donnell is much more explicitly reptilian in current AD&D editions. The Greyhawk Player’s Guide said Christine O’Donnell has “certain features that are both reptilian and doglike.”

Great D&D use. Would you likely to create a D&D character for her? I promise to save it and put it in an future D&D/LGF crossover.

436 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:50:28pm

O Thou of countless names
Who are one and all things
O Thou of countless names
Without beginning, without end
Ahh…America…Ahh
Christine O’Donnell The underworld is yours
Christine O’Donnell I put my soul
in your hands
O Thou, God of the Dead
Lead my soul to the judgement hall

(solo)

437 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:53:30pm

re: #436 WindUpBird

O Thou of countless names
Who are one and all things
O Thou of countless names
Without beginning, without end
Ahh…America…Ahh
Christine O’Donnell The underworld is yours
Christine O’Donnell I put my soul
in your hands
O Thou, God of the Dead
Lead my soul to the judgement hall

(solo)

No, that’s Dorkus, Prince of Blogosphere UnDeath. He’s list as “Rodan” on the Stalker Blog.

438 palomino  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:57:26pm

re: #131 brookly red

no I am a Democrat, and I apologize that my party is fucking up the country…

You’re a Dem? Why? On what issues did you ever agree with the evil Demz?

You do realize that the Dem Party has been moving rightward for nearly 30 years. So I’m guessing Truman was the last Dem you voted for.

439 palomino  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 8:01:33pm

re: #237 brookly red

nationalized health care
nationalized the auto industry
payed off the unions
terrorized the banks
talked much shit.

Those poor banks! If Obama is a terrorist for the way he treated the banks, what would that have made FDR in 1933?

Also, you don’t know what “nationalize” means. The auto cos. and health care industry aren’t in govt hands. Do you even bother to try to understand your talking points?

440 Vambo  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 8:03:02pm

re: #438 palomino

You’re a Dem? Why?

To vote for Hillary, of course, in the 2008 primaries.

441 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 8:05:11pm

re: #438 palomino

BS, unadulterated BS.

442 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 8:08:45pm

re: #440 Vambo

To vote for Hillary, of course, in the 2008 primaries.

Brookly lives in NYC. He is a registered Democrat to allow him to vote in the Democratic primary, which is more important there than the general election.

443 palomino  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 8:11:55pm

re: #265 RogueOne

I think it’s hilarious that the republican establishment got the crap kicked out of them during the primaries. To see Rove up there talking about what a disaster this all is? HA-Freaking-HA.

Are you going to argue that somehow it could possibly be worse? At this rate I’m just hoping they stop spending us into oblivion. I’ll gladly argue abortion, the 2nd amendment, drug laws, and wiccan theory when the unemployment rate drops below say 7%.

Rove’s right. Tea partiers hurt long run. The party was beginning to make inroads with minorities, particularly the Hispanics necessary for winning in the next generation. That’s over. The GOP can kiss the Hispanic vote goodbye almost to the same extent they’ve given up on the black vote.

But yes, the gop can take advantage of crappy econ conditions and get lots of protest votes, for now. But they’re on a crazy train and their base is shrinking…doesn’t add up over the long haul.

444 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 8:15:04pm

re: #442 Dark_Falcon

Brookly lives in NYC. He is a registered Democrat to allow him to vote in the Democratic primary, which is more important there than the general election.

Oh maybe, but his claim of being a democrat? Unadulterated BS. And repeated soo often I laugh.

445 palomino  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 8:15:54pm

re: #310 RogueOne

That’s a good theory and one that would be easy to argue except we have the evidence of roughly a trillion dollars in spending (almost 10x the amounts in that graph) in front of us and it hasn’t been any help to the economy. It’s possible, just possible, that all that spending boosted our economy by a percentage point but I don’t really see that as money well spent. Toss in all the unintended consequences of the cash for clunkers, the housing tax cut, as a matter-of-fact ALL of housing programs failed, and it’s not a pretty picture.

Wasn’t almost 40% of that “trillion dollars in spending” actually tax cuts?

446 palomino  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 8:20:42pm

re: #344 RogueOne

Headline of the 1st article:

Economists See a Limited Boost From Stimulus

or…it was delay of the inevitable which is what I just said. I find it shocking that you think a trillion dollars is a good deal for a 4% increase in unemployment, home foreclosures at a record high, losing a few billion in the GM IPO, and the list goes on… I don’t think any of this is surprising. Maybe “unexpected” since we’ve heard that in the press it seams for the entire last year. “unexpectedly bad” has been the constant meme.

Geez, talk about bad math: unemployment was 8% when Obama took over; now it’s 9.6%. Where does a FOUR fit in there?

447 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 8:21:06pm

re: #444 Stanley Sea

Oh maybe, but his claim of being a democrat? Unadulterated BS. And repeated so often I laugh.

It’s technically accurate, but like my dad in the Chicago mayoral election next year, he’d rather vote Republican. He (Brookly) can’t do that without throwing his vote away, so he uses his registration for sour grapes purposes.

448 palomino  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 8:26:07pm

re: #373 Mr Pancakes

I still want to cover you in syrup Stanley…

Mrs. Butterworths? Or the real stuff?

Maybe Log Cabin (Republicans)?

449 windsagio  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 8:28:00pm

re: #444 Stanley Sea

Oh maybe, but his claim of being a democrat? Unadulterated BS. And repeated soo often I laugh.

You know how it is, LBJ took the Democratic party away from him in the early ’60s.

450 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 9:17:18pm

“I’d like to hear Barack Obama come out and renounce Lucifer,” said Corsi, “I don’t recall hearing him do it.”

I don’t think I have ever heard a single politician renounce the devil and all his works, and you know? I’m OK with that.

451 ihateronpaul  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 9:49:39pm

re: #426 prairiefire

My friend was watchin “Mad Men” with her brother who is 12 years younger. He said “I can’t believe the way they talk to the women!” She said “yeah, it used to be that way pretty much 24/7.”

stfu feminazi

/this is how rush limbaugh actually thinks and talks

452 ihateronpaul  Tue, Sep 21, 2010 9:50:31pm

re: #450 SanFranciscoZionist

“I’d like to hear Barack Obama come out and renounce Lucifer,” said Corsi, “I don’t recall hearing him do it.”

I don’t think I have ever heard a single politician renounce the devil and all his works, and you know? I’m OK with that.

I’d like to hear Corsi renounce racist projection, because that’s what his career is based off of. And mark levin just loves him!

453 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 1:19:32am

re: #164 EdDantes

Jimi Hendrix:

Excuse me while I kiss this guy.

An archive of misheard lyrics—

kissthisguy.com

454 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 1:23:41am

re: #198 Obdicut

I’m sorry, but no, history does not back this up.

The current GOP, tea-party fired up, ruled by socons, has never had majority control of congress.

You cannot compare them to a past GOP. It does not work.

I can see some similarities to the Radical Republicans of the post-Civil War era, in that they are completely willing to eliminate any of their own who deviates from the Received Wisdom in any way.

455 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 1:39:13am

re: #440 Vambo

To vote for Hillary, of course, in the 2008 primaries.

That’s funny, since I switched registration in 2008 to vote AGAINST Hillary.

456 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 3:26:14am

re: #452 ihateronpaul

I’d like to hear Corsi renounce racist projection, because that’s what his career is based off of. And mark levin just loves him!

Mark Levin, the squeaky off-balance washing machine voice of a new generation

let his piercing nonsensical yelp illuminate the way towards a new age

457 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 3:29:19am

re: #444 Stanley Sea

Oh maybe, but his claim of being a democrat? Unadulterated BS. And repeated soo often I laugh.

When people have to constantly repeat their political bonafides over and over again, that’s really the mark of trustworthiness right there

458 Liberal Classic  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:47:37am

re: #378 wlewisiii

Keynes’ General Theory is the only way out of this mess.

Can’t say I agree in all particulars.

459 Liberal Classic  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:51:26am

re: #433 WindUpBird

From the third edition, the term “goblinoid” has been reserved for goblins, hobgoblins, Christine O’Donnell, and similar creatures. Christine O’Donnell is much more explicitly reptilian in current AD&D editions. The Greyhawk Player’s Guide said Christine O’Donnell has “certain features that are both reptilian and doglike.”

-1000 XP for misidentifying demi-humans. Doglike reptilians are kobolds, not goblins.

460 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:56:16am

re: #459 Liberal Classic

I was just cutting and pasting :D I was never much of a D&D player, way more into Shadowrun, GURPS, Cyberpunk


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