Outrageous Outrage of the Day

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Right wing bloggers and Fox News are freaking out (they always do it in unison) about a quote from President Obama in Bob Woodward’s new book “Obama’s Wars:”

‘We can absorb a terrorist attack. We’ll do everything we can to prevent it, but even a 9/11, even the biggest attack ever … we absorbed it and we are stronger.’ “

These continuing outrageous outrages are tediously predictable, but again, there’s absolutely nothing outrageous or offensive about the statement.

Obama’s point is clear: terrorist attacks, horrific though they may be, cannot and will not destroy America. And that seems pretty darned obvious — and accurate — to me.

In the Cold War, America really did face an existential threat; the Soviet Union possessed enough nuclear weapons to turn the entire planet into a charred ruin, many times over. Now that was a valid reason to be afraid.

Al Qaeda and their fellow travelers, on the other hand, may be able to commit mass murder, but they do not have the capability to pose a serious threat to America’s existence.

The right wing fear merchants are yelping about this statement because it hurts business when the President gives the rubes a reality check.

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98 comments
1 I Am Kreniigh!  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:06:58am

A strong America is a less easily frightened America. We can't have that.

/

2 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:07:27am

not to mention that obama is actually a cactus

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

3 Mark Pennington  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:10:30am

What the hell would they prefer him to say? I think that statement is a positive not a negative one.

4 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:11:03am

When all you have to sell is fear, anyone who offers comfort becomes your opponent.

5 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:11:49am

I'm awaiting the two book volume of the Kitty Kelly biography of Bob Woodward and the Bob Woodward biography of Kitty Kelly.

6 Jimmah  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:13:28am

re: #3 beekiller

What the hell would they prefer him to say? I think that statement is a positive not a negative one.

If Bush had said those very words, wingnuts would be saying "Now why couldn't Obama have said something like that?"

7 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:14:35am

John Oliver put it best.

John Oliver: When you’re a bankrupt ideology pursuing a bankrupt strategy, the only move you have left is the dick one.
Jon Stewart: When will these motherfuckers go away?
John Oliver: They probably won’t, there have always been motherfuckers, there will always be motherfuckers, but what we can’t do is let them control our motherfucking lives.

8 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:15:00am

re: #5 DaddyG

I'm awaiting the two book volume of the Kitty Kelly biography of Bob Woodward and the Bob Woodward biography of Kitty Kelly.

My god, it's full of stars!

9 Nick Schroeder  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:15:42am

I can't even begin to wrap my brain around what they might be trying to insinuate with this faux outrage, other than simply "HUUURRRRR DERP... so vote Republican."

10 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:16:18am

re: #2 SpaceJesus

not to mention that obama is actually a cactus

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

That explains the Federal fatwa on Gila Woodpeckers, and the state of Arizona for daring to have the cactus wren as their state bird...

//

11 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:16:31am
The decades ahead will bring more hard choices for our country, and there are some guiding principles that should shape our course. While our Nation is safer than it was seven years ago, the gravest threat to our people remains another terrorist attack. -- George Bush, Radio Address
12 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:16:42am

"For a man who prides himself on delivering a coherent message, there's an awful lot of confusion out there about whether he's a Harvard Law graduate or a leafless flowering shrub."

13 Lidane  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:17:05am

Didn't Bush say something about Al Qaeda not being able to bring America down because we were stronger than a bunch of mass murderers living in caves?

I'm not understanding the outrage here. What is so different about it now that Obama has said something similar?

14 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:17:23am

Charles,

I disagree with this statement:

Al Qaeda and their fellow travelers, on the other hand, may be able to commit mass murder, but they do not have the capability to pose a serious threat to America’s existence.

If America continues to let Al Qaeda and fellow travelers cause fear and loathing of Muslims or Middle Easterners to the point where we are willing to deny them their freedom of speech and civil rights, then we my still exist as a country but a greatly diminished one.

It has taken us over 50 years to begin to heal from what was done to Americans of Japanese descent during WWII.

15 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:18:35am

re: #13 Lidane

Didn't Bush say something about Al Qaeda not being able to bring America down because we were stronger than a bunch of mass murderers living in caves?

I'm not understanding the outrage here. What is so different about it now that Obama has said something similar?

Because Obama saying it will cause us to let our guard down and thus be more vulnerable to another attack. And since he's the sekret Mooslim commie fascist he did it knowingly and to hurt America.

/(massive)

16 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:19:36am

re: #14 DaddyG

Charles,

I disagree with this statement:

If America continues to let Al Qaeda and fellow travelers cause fear and loathing of Muslims or Middle Easterners to the point where we are willing to deny them their freedom of speech and civil rights, then we my still exist as a country but a greatly diminished one.

It has taken us over 50 years to begin to heal from what was done to Americans of Japanese descent during WWII.

We certainly have the capacity to destroy ourselves, but Al Qaeda certainly couldn't do it without our help.

17 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:19:38am

re: #14 DaddyG

Charles,

I disagree with this statement:

If America continues to let Al Qaeda and fellow travelers cause fear and loathing of Muslims or Middle Easterners to the point where we are willing to deny them their freedom of speech and civil rights, then we my still exist as a country but a greatly diminished one.

It has taken us over 50 years to begin to heal from what was done to Americans of Japanese descent during WWII.

But we'd be doing that to ourselves not Al Qaeda actively doing it to us....

18 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:20:56am

According to "Ace of Spades," Obama said this because he's trying to brainwash America into not responding to terrorist attacks.

This is what passes for commentary on right wing blogs these days.

19 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:21:52am

re: #16 Fozzie Bear

re: #17 jamesfirecat

Yes we would be responsible ultimately. However the terrorists know that they can throw a wedge between American Muslims and the rest of our population with our own xenophobia paving the way. It is part and parcel to the goals of terrorism.

20 Jimmah  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:22:02am

re: #12 SpaceJesus

"For a man who prides himself on delivering a coherent message, there's an awful lot of confusion out there about whether he's a Harvard Law graduate or a leafless flowering shrub."

Yet some people prefer not to discuss the controversy at all. What are they trying to hide?/

21 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:22:19am

re: #17 jamesfirecat

But we'd be doing that to ourselves not Al Qaeda actively doing it to us...

Which explains the spinning noise coming from underground in Old Town Philadelphia...

(Awaiting PECO optioning to wrap Ben in copper wire to use as an electricity source.)

22 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:22:40am

re: #18 Charles
How do you monitor that stuff without causing serious brain damage?

23 Bubblehead II  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:23:01am

re: #15 oaktree

You have been over to the harpies site haven't you?

24 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:23:07am

re: #19 DaddyG

re: #17 jamesfirecat

Yes we would be responsible ultimately. However the terrorists know that they can throw a wedge between American Muslims and the rest of our population with our own xenophobia paving the way. It is part and parcel to the goals of terrorism.

That was the entirety of OBL's plan, basically: Attack us, and watch us destroy ourselves out of sheer cowardice. It's sad to see that it worked so well.

25 MrSilverDragon  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:24:16am

re: #22 DaddyG

How do you monitor that stuff without causing serious brain damage?

I would think having a solid footing in reality helps that a lot. Don't you wish a larger portion of the population had that as well?

26 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:25:18am

re: #24 Fozzie Bear

That was the entirety of OBL's plan, basically: Attack us, and watch us destroy ourselves out of sheer cowardice. It's sad to see that it worked so well.


Not enough updings.

I'm still shaking my head over how we botched the chance to show the world how America has the high ground when we protested the Burlington Coat Factory Islamic Community Center.

Instead we took to the low road at full speed.

27 Lidane  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:25:19am

re: #18 Charles

So let me get this straight-- Bush says something similar, and he's appealing to the American spirit and keeping people from descending into fear or letting the terrorists win. Obama says it and he's trying to brainwash this country into rolling over and letting Al Qaeda take over?

How do these morans get through the day without harming themselves? Seriously. I want to know how they manage to get through life with that level of cognitive dissonance.

28 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:25:59am

re: #27 Lidane

So let me get this straight-- Bush says something similar, and he's appealing to the American spirit and keeping people from descending into fear or letting the terrorists win. Obama says it and he's trying to brainwash this country into rolling over and letting Al Qaeda take over?

How do these morans get through the day without harming themselves? Seriously. I want to know how they manage to get through life with that level of cognitive dissonance.

They can't get out of bed without hurting themselves...

29 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:26:12am

re: #25 MrSilverDragon

I would think having a solid footing in reality helps that a lot. Don't you wish a larger portion of the population had that as well?


Yes. Althought truth be told I have to remind myself from time to time that bloggers don't represent the general population.

30 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:26:32am

re: #14 DaddyG

Charles,

I disagree with this statement:

If America continues to let Al Qaeda and fellow travelers cause fear and loathing of Muslims or Middle Easterners to the point where we are willing to deny them their freedom of speech and civil rights, then we my still exist as a country but a greatly diminished one.

It has taken us over 50 years to begin to heal from what was done to Americans of Japanese descent during WWII.

Right, damn the Imperial Japanese for scaring us away from our principles, dignity, and integrity. Al Quaeda is to blame for frightening our easily panicked asses, causing us to abandon our cherished national principles.

31 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:26:34am

re: #19 DaddyG

re: #17 jamesfirecat

Yes we would be responsible ultimately. However the terrorists know that they can throw a wedge between American Muslims and the rest of our population with our own xenophobia paving the way. It is part and parcel to the goals of terrorism.

But ultimately they don't wield a big enough stick to destroy this country.

They can only do it by using the stick as a lever, something we have to be complicit in, even if we do so without realizing it.

As opposed to the USSR which could in theory have decided to kick off the end of the US just about any time they wanted, and all we'd have been able to do is make sure they we took them down with us....

32 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:27:16am

re: #27 Lidane

I want to know how they manage to get through life with that level of cognitive dissonance.

They reduce the levels of overall cognition. When you don't think you don't have to deal with the dissonance.

33 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:27:27am

The ones who have the most to lose from another big attack are Muslims everywhere.

34 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:28:13am

re: #23 Bubblehead II

You have been over to the harpies site haven't you?

Nope. Have never been there. The rhetoric is simply that predictable at this point from reading limited examples listed here.

The mindset is self-reinforcing at this point. Any fact can be refracted in some way to enforce the desired worldview by fitting it to the appropriate conspiracy theory. And the foundation is never analyzed rationally to see that it bears little or no resemblance to reality.

35 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:30:05am

re: #30 goddamnedfrank

Right, damn the Imperial Japanese for scaring us away from our principles, dignity, and integrity. Al Quaeda is to blame for frightening our easily panicked asses, causing us to abandon our cherished national principles.


Well if you are going to put it that way... =:-o

I'm not blaming terrorism for making us loose our principles. But our poor response is what terrorism counts on. It may not outright kill entire populations but it does severely test our adherance to our principles. (Patriot act losses of rights, anti-muslim sentiment, etc.)

36 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:30:12am

And it is not a matter of "if", but "when".

37 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:31:34am

re: #34 oaktree

Nope. Have never been there. The rhetoric is simply that predictable at this point from reading limited examples listed here.

The mindset is self-reinforcing at this point. Any fact can be refracted in some way to enforce the desired worldview by fitting it to the appropriate conspiracy theory. And the foundation is never analyzed rationally to see that it bears little or no resemblance to reality.

It's all based on fear. Geller and her ilk are so fucking terrified of everything that they don't get how other people can not be freaking out all the time along with them. I MEAN HOLY SHIT PEOPLE WE ARE GOING TO DIE!!!

This is the hallmark of cowards. Cowardice is the reason that "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud" seemed like a compelling argument to so many people. It's not an argument. It's an appeal to pant-shitting fear. It's cowardice.

38 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:32:32am

America has principles?

39 Henchman 25  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:32:46am

re: #13 Lidane

Because Bush is white and Obama's not?

40 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:32:47am

I'm not afraid of the mushroom cloud. I'm afraid of the giant radioactive bedbugs that it will spawn. /

41 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:33:29am

re: #37 Fozzie Bear

It's all based on fear. Geller and her ilk are so fucking terrified of everything that they don't get how other people can not be freaking out all the time along with them. I MEAN HOLY SHIT PEOPLE WE ARE GOING TO DIE!!!

This is the hallmark of cowards. Cowardice is the reason that "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud" seemed like a compelling argument to so many people. It's not an argument. It's an appeal to pant-shitting fear. It's cowardice.

And not even the good kind of cowardice which takes into account the long term results of ones actions, like the kind that sends Ciaphas Cain charging forward to meet the Ruinous Powers when he'd rather be curled up under a rock somewhere....

42 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:33:32am

re: #38 Cato the Elder

America has principles?


Principals... lots of them. It's the price we pay for a nationwide public education system.

43 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:33:35am

re: #40 DaddyG

I'm not afraid of the mushroom cloud. I'm afraid of the giant radioactive bedbugs that it will spawn. /

Play Fallout.
;)

44 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:34:01am

Status: Wingnuts go crazy.

Cause: Obama said it.

Had this been said by a Republican they would all stand in agreement.

45 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:34:42am

re: #39 SteelPH

Because Bush is white and Obama's not?

Who can tell? Racism is just one of the many forms of Obama Derangement Syndrome.

46 CarleeCork  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:35:06am

re: #23 Bubblehead II

You have been over to the harpies site haven't you?


Bring it on? Where have I heard that before?

47 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:35:16am

Drat. I wanted a copyright on the concept of "federal fatwa" for wing-battery concerning the Obama Administration and it turns out that the UAE is actually considering a fatwa committee to bring order to their problem with "fatwa chaos". Oh well.

[Link: www.thenational.ae...]

48 Idle Drifter  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:36:08am

Even a nuclear bomb set off in a major metropolitan area is something America can survive. Of course multiple nuclear bombs in the hundreds to thousands is another question. Even so, most Americans would do their damnedest to carry on after the attack.

49 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:36:14am

re: #36 Cato the Elder

And it is not a matter of "if", but "when".

and "how bad". Another 9/11-scale attack would be terrible enough, but say, nuking a major urban center would be really nasty.

50 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:36:15am

“Another attack is a matter not of if, but when.” - Dick Cheney 2007

51 onyx  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:36:32am

This kind of loose talk is dangerous, not to mention bad for the economy. Did Obama even consider how many panic-related jobs that might cost us in the fear-industrial complex?
/

52 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:37:06am

re: #48 Idle Drifter

Even a nuclear bomb set off in a major metropolitan area is something America can survive. Of course multiple nuclear bombs in the hundreds to thousands is another question. Even so, most Americans would do their damnedest to carry on after the attack.


It would be quite a boon for Roach-Americans and Rat-Americans everywhere. /

53 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:37:11am

re: #51 onyx

This kind of loose talk is dangerous, not to mention bad for the economy. Did Obama even consider how many panic-related jobs that might cost us in the fear-industrial complex?
/

A belated "welcome new/old lizard" ;p

54 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:37:12am

re: #50 Gus 802

“Another attack is a matter not of if, but when.” - Dick Cheney 2007 2002

Make that 2002.

55 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:37:13am

re: #48 Idle Drifter

Even a nuclear bomb set off in a major metropolitan area is something America can survive. Of course multiple nuclear bombs in the hundreds to thousands is another question. Even so, most Americans would do their damnedest to carry on after the attack.

Thousands = Bye bye humanity.

56 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:38:11am

re: #55 Varek Raith

Thousands = Bye bye humanity.

Well, some of the mutants will carry on underground and develop telepathic powers while the other primates exterminate the lemurs and form their own civilization...

57 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:38:11am

re: #51 onyx

This kind of loose talk is dangerous, not to mention bad for the economy. Did Obama even consider how many panic-related jobs that might cost us in the fear-industrial complex?
/

Don't worry Stephen Colbert has their back.

58 BongCrodny  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:39:08am

re: #22 DaddyG

How do you monitor that stuff without causing serious brain damage?

I thnk if I had to monitor right-wing sites like Ace of Spades, I'd be a drooling idiot.


Okay, okay -- even more of a drooling idiot.

59 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:39:39am

re: #23 Bubblehead II

You have been over to the harpies site haven't you?

Look at the front page of her site:

A new book by Washington Post associate editor Bob Woodward describes the Obama administration as barraged with warnings about the threat of terrorist attacks on U.S. soil. President Obama told Woodward in an interview for his "Obama's Wars," "We can absorb a terrorist attack. We'll do everything we can to prevent it, but even a 9/11, even the biggest attack ever. . . we absorbed it and we are stronger." More at washingtonpost.com

I have been researching this man for years (read the book) and this is by far, the scariest and creepiest thing of all.

It's as if ...............he wants it

A classified exercise in May showed that the government was woefully unprepared to deal with a nuclear terrorist attack in the United States. The scenario involved the detonation of a small, crude nuclear weapon in Indianapolis and the simultaneous threat of a second blast in Los Angeles. Obama, in the interview with Woodward, called a nuclear attack here "a potential game changer."


Coward alert (and remember he campaigned on war in Afghanistan, that was where we really needed to be - the good war)... Ugh

President Obama urgently looked for a way out of the war in Afghanistan last year, repeatedly pressing his top military advisers for an exit plan that they never gave him, according to secret meeting notes and documents cited in a new book by journalist Bob Woodward.

Is it any wonder our troops are dying at record levels?

According to Woodward's meeting-by-meeting, memo-by-memo account of the 2009 Afghan strategy review, the president avoided talk of victory as he described his objectives.


So... who is the coward, exactly, Pam? Who is motivated by fear? You, or Obama?

60 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:40:06am

re: #58 BongCrodny
Upding for self effacing honesty.

61 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:41:06am

re: #59 Fozzie Bear

the crazy bitch doesn't have anything to sell other than fear. None of the wingers do. Fear of terrorism, fear of government, fear of gays, fear of Islam. Fear. That's the entire fucking basis of the right. Fear.

Fucking cowards.

62 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:41:19am

re: #58 BongCrodny

I thnk if I had to monitor right-wing sites like Ace of Spades, I'd be a drooling idiot.

Okay, okay -- even more of a drooling idiot.

Do you remember what watching a single hour of Sean Hannity's show did to Jon Stewart?

63 rhino2  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:42:31am
64 Idle Drifter  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:42:43am

re: #52 DaddyG

It would be quite a boon for Roach-Americans and Rat-Americans everywhere. /

If this turned into the Fallout Universe we'd have the military emerge as the Enclave and Brotherhood of Steel. Slavers, Raiders, Bandits, Mercenaries, and Organized Crime would just be the tip of the iceberg to the giant rats, geckos, scorpions, rad roaches, etc. along with feral ghouls, super mutants, troggs, and night kin.

65 CarleeCork  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:46:01am

re: #62 jamesfirecat

Do you remember what watching a single hour of Sean Hannity's show did to Jon Stewart?

[Link: www.thedailyshow.com...]


Too funny!

"We alter reality. You are sold a preconceived narrative."

How sad that their viewers don't understand that.

66 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:46:09am

re: #64 Idle Drifter

If this turned into the Fallout Universe we'd have the military emerge as the Enclave and Brotherhood of Steel. Slavers, Raiders, Bandits, Mercenaries, and Organized Crime would just be the tip of the iceberg to the giant rats, geckos, scorpions, rad roaches, etc. along with feral ghouls, super mutants, troggs, and night kin.

I got my mini nukes and experimental MIRV.
BRING THEM ON!!!

67 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:46:30am

I am at least glad to see that the Koran-burning, mosque-protesting ravers have toned it down a notch recently.

I was worried that any sort of Islamist terrorist attack would be followed by a wave of mindless acts of "retribution" against America's Muslim community.

Which is not to be ruled out entirely, but I see it as somewhat less likely.

68 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:49:06am

re: #64 Idle Drifter

If this turned into the Fallout Universe we'd have the military emerge as the Enclave and Brotherhood of Steel. Slavers, Raiders, Bandits, Mercenaries, and Organized Crime would just be the tip of the iceberg to the giant rats, geckos, scorpions, rad roaches, etc. along with feral ghouls, super mutants, troggs, and night kin.


Wow. I haven't been in the loop since space invaders and missile command.

69 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:50:22am

re: #67 ralphieboy

I still have hope in the general populace. The fringes whipped into a frenzy? Not so much hope for them.

70 darthstar  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:50:54am

Why do Fox and the right wingers have such a low opinion of America and Americans? I would think having a president who wasn't willing to let the terrorists change our democracy (i.e. "win") would be a good thing.

I'm not going to let some asshole in a cave change who I am.

71 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:53:09am

re: #68 DaddyG

Wow. I haven't been in the loop since space invaders and missile command.

72 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:54:58am

re: #70 darthstar

I'm not going to let some asshole in a cave change who I am.

Darthstar, why do you hate America? /

73 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:54:59am

re: #68 DaddyG

Wow. I haven't been in the loop since space invaders and missile command.

I'm slipping behind, I haven't played my Xbox regularly in months ;_;

74 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:55:07am

re: #72 Fozzie Bear

Darthstar, why do you hate America? /

Because it's gay

75 Bubblehead II  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:55:44am

Be afraid, be very afraid. Because paranoia is Patriotic.

Posted with tongue firmly in cheek.

76 webevintage  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:56:40am

The terrorists win once we become a bunch of wussies.....

77 Four More Tears  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:57:58am

How dare you, Mr. Obama! This great nation under God will not survive another terrorist attack, thank you very much! America will, you can be rest assured, will lose its collective shit!

78 garhighway  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:58:12am

We lose more people to motor vehicle deaths in a month than we did to 9/11.

We seem to survive that OK.

79 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:59:07am

re: #74 WindUpBird

Because it's gay

"I'll bet you're the kind of nation that would fuck Mexico in the ass and not even have the goddamn common courtesy to give him a reach-around."

80 darthstar  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 12:02:04pm

re: #77 JasonA

How dare you, Mr. Obama! This great nation under God will not survive another terrorist attack, thank you very much! America will, you can be rest assured, will lose its collective shit!

Well, a man in the back did say "Everyone attack!"

81 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 12:02:05pm

If we build enough mosques in large urban centers, then the terrorists will not be able to attack us anymore for fear of hitting their own...

/

82 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 12:06:38pm

re: #78 garhighway

Would we be thinking that way had the 4th plane, which crashed in PA, instead crashed into the WH or the Capitol, taking with it a significant number of Congressmembers or high level officials?

I'm asking the hypothetical because while the notion of America not being destroyed by a terror attack is correct - the people who inhabit the positions of government that make the country operate at the highest levels could be destroyed in a single stroke by a terror attack.

A terror attack like 9/11 wouldn't destroy the US. It might cause a recession, or deepen an already existing one. It might hamper some industries, but the economy is far more diverse and able to rebound from that kind of attack.

A terror attack involving a nuke - destroying a city - that's a different question. It wouldn't destroy the nation, the damage to the economy would be much more severe; a nuke to NYC or DC would be even more damaging than if one were to hit other cities (due to being a center of US and international finance, center of gov't etc.) A nuke in DC could result in a decapitation of the US government if enough members of Congress were in town along with the Executive and Judiciary branches. Even then, it wouldn't destroy the country - but it would probably result in the destruction of whatever country spawned/harbored/armed the group that carried out such attack.

83 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 12:06:58pm

re: #71 Varek Raith Whoa!

84 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 12:09:26pm

re: #82 lawhawk

Yes, someone pointed out that one of America's major internet providers had only just moved out of the Twin Towers because the rents were too high. If they had been taken out, it would have led to true chaos.

85 garhighway  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 12:11:37pm

re: #82 lawhawk

A terror attack involving a nuke - destroying a city - that's a different question. It wouldn't destroy the nation, the damage to the economy would be much more severe; a nuke to NYC or DC would be even more damaging than if one were to hit other cities (due to being a center of US and international finance, center of gov't etc.) A nuke in DC could result in a decapitation of the US government if enough members of Congress were in town along with the Executive and Judiciary branches. Even then, it wouldn't destroy the country - but it would probably result in the destruction of whatever country spawned/harbored/armed the group that carried out such attack.

Of course. Is someone advocating such a thing? Is anyone suggesting that our government is or should take such a prospect lightly? If so, I missed it.

But to say that we have survived 9/11 seems like a pretty reasonable observation. We have. It's is a statement of fact.

86 Summer Seale  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 12:14:46pm
Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Gestapo and all the odious apparatus of Nazi rule, we shall not flag or fail.

Right Wing Commentary: "Oh my god! He's giving up! He's already giving them Europe!

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France,

Right Wing Commentary: "He wants us to lose! He wants us to all die in the end! And in France!!!

we shall fight on the seas and oceans,

Right Wing Commentary: "He wants us all to drown!" He doesn't even care about our own land!!!

we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be,

Right Wing Commentary: "He wants us to spend more money and die!!!!

we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;

Right Wing Commentary: "He's inviting them over to kill us in our houses and our schools! Help! Help! He wants us to be invaded!!!

we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving,

Right Wing Commentary: "He's trying to murder us all by starving us and leading us into disaster! He accepts that we're already losing this fight!!!"

then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle,

Right Wing Commentary: "He thinks our country is doomed! He wants our soldiers to die overseas after we're all dead! He's not even interested in protecting us at home!!!!!!!!!!!"

until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.

Right Wing Commentary: "He's passing the buck off on to our kids! He wants our children to fight and die for us after we're all dead!!!! Help! Help! He's one of them! He's one of them!!!!"

87 Idle Drifter  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 12:15:26pm

re: #68 DaddyG

Wow. I haven't been in the loop since space invaders and missile command.

Properly made video games these days are like interactive movies but you can change how the plot flows and how characters react to you.

88 garhighway  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 12:19:37pm

re: #86 Summer

That was one of the greatest speeches of all time. The man was gifted.

89 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 12:20:09pm

I'm looking forward to Lady Ga Ga's insightful and highly intelligent commentary on this statement.

90 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 12:20:32pm

This is absurd even for the Obama is always wrong crowd. Seriously, this seems to be a line that would have been applauded if Bush or Reagan had said it and it should be. He's saying that we'll endure as a nation no matter what happens and he's right.

91 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 12:21:24pm

re: #24 Fozzie Bear

That was the entirety of OBL's plan, basically: Attack us, and watch us destroy ourselves out of sheer cowardice. It's sad to see that it worked so well.

Alien #1: Understand the procedure now? Just stop a few of their machines, and radios, and telephones, and lawnmowers, throw them into darkness for a few hours and then, sit back and watch the pattern.
Alien #2: And this pattern is always the same?
Alien #1: With few variations. They pick the most dangerous enemy they can find. And it's themselves. All we need do is sit back and watch.
Alien #2: Then I take it that this place- This "Maple Street" is not unique?
Alien #1: By no means. Their world is full of Maple Streets. And we'll go from one to the other and let them destroy themselves.

92 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 12:25:19pm

re: #85 garhighway

Of course. Is someone advocating such a thing? Is anyone suggesting that our government is or should take such a prospect lightly? If so, I missed it.

But to say that we have survived 9/11 seems like a pretty reasonable observation. We have. It's is a statement of fact.

But Tom Clancy had his terrorists in _Sum of All Fears_ attack something vital to American interests... football!

93 garhighway  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 12:26:29pm

re: #92 oaktree

But Tom Clancy had his terrorists in _Sum of All Fears_ attack something vital to American interests... football!

And at the end of Debt of Honor he had someone fly a plane into the Capitol.

94 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 12:28:10pm

re: #93 garhighway

And at the end of Debt of Honor he had someone fly a plane into the Capitol.

Japanese commercial aviation pilot. And it was essentially an undeclared war going on as well since a Japanese industrialist had triggered the chaos without really involving the Japanese government and then presented things as a sort of fait accompli.

95 tradewind  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 12:34:44pm

Desperately Seeking Deep Throat.
It never ceases to amaze me how willingly readers accept the words of an author who, constantly trying to recapture his glory days, blithely inserts comments into text as if he had been right there in the room, a fly on the wall . Woodward is well known for this, but it only seems to create a stir when he imagines the quote from a Democrat.

96 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 4:22:00pm

re: #9 Nick Schroeder

I can't even begin to wrap my brain around what they might be trying to insinuate with this faux outrage, other than simply "HUUURRR DERP... so vote Republican."

The party of whiny, handwringing pessimism about America's future? Yep, that ought to sell.

97 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 4:52:46pm

My family and I this exact same attitude as expressed by President Obama. I would think there are many I and R moderates out there who also have this opinion.

98 Red Lion  Mon, Sep 27, 2010 11:47:32am

The president's statement is true, up until the part about our nation being "stronger" for having absorbed 9/11. That part is off-key and insulting, a now-typical gaffe from the guy I voted for with some reluctance because I feared he would be soft on terrorism.


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