1 Spikester  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:03:44pm

i gotta stop do'n drugs!

2 freetoken  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:05:34pm

Quite the well done short feature. Amazed at some of the things put on Vimeo.

3 austin_blue  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:05:35pm

Sanity! It's not over rated.

4 jaunte  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:06:23pm

The loc nar returns!

5 What, me worry?  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:10:14pm

re: #4 jaunte

The loc nar returns!

hehe Love it. Especially the Steak. Has a Ren and Stimpy flavor, no?

6 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:11:38pm

Now I got to worry about steak and fish dreams! Goodnight and thanks for all the fish.

7 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:13:28pm

re: #3 austin_blue

Sanity! It's not over rated.

Yeah, but its teh hard.

8 Soap_Man  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:19:34pm

Evening all.

It's been a hard week at work. Just finished a big project. I'm glad it's behind me, but things probably won't get calmer any time soon.

How is everyone doing?

9 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:20:00pm

The persistent delusion that because every few years they get to pull a lever for one out of at best three candidates for some office or other they have a "say" in how this country is run must be the single most endearing trait of the American boobwasee.

10 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:24:25pm

re: #9 Cato the Elder

The persistent delusion that because every few years they get to pull a lever for one out of at best three candidates for some office or other they have a "say" in how this country is run must be the single most endearing trait of the American boobwasee.

Mr. Menken, is that you?

11 freetoken  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:24:49pm

re: #9 Cato the Elder

....most endearing trait of the American boobwasee.

Congratulations. As LGF is indexed by Google, you've just provided the 5th example of this word to be found in the vast Google archives:

[Link: www.google.com...]

12 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:25:58pm

Strength, speed and cooking ability?

So, is Salesman Pete really Killgore in disguise?

13 palomino  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:32:07pm

re: #9 Cato the Elder

The persistent delusion that because every few years they get to pull a lever for one out of at best three candidates for some office or other they have a "say" in how this country is run must be the single most endearing trait of the American boobwasee.

So cynical.

So true. For the most part.

14 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:33:04pm

re: #12 reine.de.tout

Strength, speed and cooking ability?

So, is Salesman Pete really Killgore in disguise?

LOL!
*waves*

15 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:33:23pm

re: #12 reine.de.tout

Strength, speed and cooking ability?

So, is Salesman Pete really Killgore in disguise?

Do not mistake cooking ability for culinary geekiness. My actual ability is limited but my geek is boundless.

16 austin_blue  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:33:52pm

Nice op-ed by Friedman:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Short and sweet, China is doing so well because they have adopted the can-do attitude that we had when we built our dams, Fortress America in WWII, our highways and put a man on the moon.

Oh, and we could sure use a bullet train connecting San Antonio, Dallas, and Houston (with stops in Austin and Wacko).

17 freetoken  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:36:57pm

re: #16 austin_blue

From the link:

“The very retro notion that we are undisputedly still No. 1,” added Schell, “is extremely dangerous.”

Wasn't it always dangerous?

18 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:38:08pm

If Y'all aren't following the pages you're missing out.
'What If The Tea Party Was Black' music video

19 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:39:49pm

re: #14 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
*waves*

Hey, {Flo}!
*waves back*

20 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:41:23pm

A group is calling for an ethics probe of David Vitter.

21 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:43:14pm

re: #16 austin_blue

The very fact that Friedman has a recurring column in a national paper is a sign of our irreversible decline.

22 wee fury  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:43:15pm

re: #16 austin_blue

Nice op-ed by Friedman:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Short and sweet, China is doing so well because they have adopted the can-do attitude that we had when we built our dams, Fortress America in WWII, our highways and put a man on the moon.

Oh, and we could sure use a bullet train connecting San Antonio, Dallas, and Houston (with stops in Austin and Wacko).


And, then there is

this


Blood selling, illegal gun making tell bitter story of poverty in China

23 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:43:40pm

re: #18 Killgore Trout

If Y'all aren't following the pages you're missing out.
'What If The Tea Party Was Black' music video

White privilege.

24 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:47:19pm

re: #15 Killgore Trout

Do not mistake cooking ability for culinary geekiness. My actual ability is limited but my geek is boundless.

LOL.

I think I've seen you say you prefer wearing sandals over shoes.

I've found the perfect compromise for you . . . these will keep your toes warm, but leave them free at the same time. And they're truly geeky.

25 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:48:31pm

re: #22 wee fury

And, then there is


Blood selling, illegal gun making tell bitter story of poverty in China

That kind of poverty is always ugly. Making illegal guns is a problem in many places. Most such weapons are piss-poor. The best pair I ever heard of were in Finland: Someone actually handmade both an M1928 Thompson (complete with 50-round 'L' drum) and an MP-40. That would have been someone you don't want to piss off.

26 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:49:17pm

re: #24 reine.de.tout

LOL.

I think I've seen you say you prefer wearing sandals over shoes.

I've found the perfect compromise for you . . . these will keep your toes warm, but leave them free at the same time. And they're truly geeky.

And OMG, they even come in a cammo . . .

27 palomino  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:49:20pm

re: #18 Killgore Trout

If Y'all aren't following the pages you're missing out.
'What If The Tea Party Was Black' music video

Brilliant. What if the Tea Party was black, gathered in the tens of thousands, often armed, with talk of more guns and taking their country back?

Well, let's just say much of white America would be even more freaked out about Obama and the "them". And the media coverage would be totally different.

28 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:51:51pm

It's MY Loc Nar!

29 freetoken  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:51:59pm

re: #21 Cato the Elder

The very fact that Friedman has a recurring column in a national paper is a sign of our irreversible decline.

I offer up navel oranges imported from Australia as further proof.

The local supermarket has them... Now, California still grows "valencia" oranges, which ripen in the summer, as well as the more common navel oranges that ripen in winter. However, instead of eating the locally grown valencias - which taste better than the navel oranges - the stores import navel oranges from Australia, that taste like crap.

Idiocy2

30 jaunte  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:52:03pm

re: #26 reine.de.tout

And OMG, they even come in a cammo . . .

That will surprise the tree frogs.

31 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:53:08pm

re: #22 wee fury

And, then there is


Blood selling, illegal gun making tell bitter story of poverty in China

And actually, China had some of the most collectible illegal copies of all time: the Tai Yuan Soldier factory turned out a number of 1921 Thompson copies. The most famous of these copies fell into the hands of a Japanese army captain who used it to kill 7 Marines and wound 3 more on Mount Suribachi before finally being killed by a grenade. The Thompson was brought back to the US as a war trophy and still exists.

32 Firstinla  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:55:37pm

re: #26 reine.de.tout

And OMG, they even come in a cammo . . .

Why?

33 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:57:46pm

re: #30 jaunte

That will surprise frighten the tree frogs.

LOL!

34 jaunte  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:58:25pm

re: #33 Floral Giraffe

Frogzilla!

35 freetoken  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 7:59:41pm

Since I've been bitchin' and moanin' all evening, here is another one:

The local supermarket usually has standing in front of the main doors various beggars groups trying to raise money.

This week it's the Boy Scouts.

They're selling bags of candied (caramel) corn and other similar sweets.

It's junk food pure and simple.

Yet they have these young guys - probably about 7 or 8 years old - hawking the stuff to raise money.

It dawned on me that these youngsters are just tools of Big Ag. The holy Boy Scouts, who the the right-wing idolize so much in this country, are just smiling faces to push corn syrup.

If the Boy Scouts really were about character why not have them work on a local farm (that is still independently own and operated by a family farmer) on weekends and then sell the produce at the end of year?

36 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:02:24pm

re: #35 freetoken

Since I've been bitchin' and moanin' all evening, here is another one:

The local supermarket usually has standing in front of the main doors various beggars groups trying to raise money.

This week it's the Boy Scouts.

They're selling bags of candied (caramel) corn and other similar sweets.

It's junk food pure and simple.

Yet they have these young guys - probably about 7 or 8 years old - hawking the stuff to raise money.

It dawned on me that these youngsters are just tools of Big Ag. The holy Boy Scouts, who the the right-wing idolize so much in this country, are just smiling faces to push corn syrup.

If the Boy Scouts really were about character why not have them work on a local farm (that is still independently own and operated by a family farmer) on weekends and then sell the produce at the end of year?

It's the American dream at work!

You've no doubt heard about this:

Renaming High Fructose Corn Syrup As "Corn Sugar" Is A Genius Branding Move

37 Firstinla  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:03:52pm

re: #35 freetoken

I read in the local paper that the industry wants to do away with the term "corn syrup" and substitute "corn sugar." I guess that should do away with the controversy.
/

38 austin_blue  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:04:44pm

You can get Mexican Coca-Cola here in Austin. Also Dublin, Texas, Dr. Pepper. Both are made with real sugar. The difference is profound.

39 Firstinla  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:04:45pm

re: #36 Gus 802


Lightning fingers! You beat me to it!

40 freetoken  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:05:26pm

re: #37 Firstinla

When I was a kid we called it "corn syrup" but IIRC "corn sugar" was also used.

My mother used to get it to make candy like divinity. It was cheaper than buying granulated cane sugar (sucrose.)

41 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:05:30pm

re: #36 Gus 802

It's the American dream at work!

You've no doubt heard about this:

Renaming High Fructose Corn Syrup As "Corn Sugar" Is A Genius Branding Move

It probably will work, too. Change the name, change the mental association. Smart move.

42 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:06:47pm

re: #35 freetoken

The local Trader Joe's has 4 foot sandwich boards out in front of the store, proclaiming that they do not support solicitors, and you have a right to "obstacle free shopping". Today was planned parenthood, last week was Greenpeace. These guys are less than 2 feet from the sign!

43 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:07:31pm

re: #41 Dark_Falcon

It probably will work, too. Change the name, change the mental association. Smart move.

Smart move for salesmen but creepy move for health advocates. Don't know how much a difference either wording will make though.

44 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:07:48pm

re: #42 Floral Giraffe

Hi You! Hope today finds you well

45 Interesting Times  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:08:19pm

re: #36 Gus 802

Renaming High Fructose Corn Syrup As "Corn Sugar" Is A Genius Branding Move

A rose Sickeningly sweet swill by any other name would smell as sweet cause just as much cancer cell growth.

46 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:08:21pm

Bugger.
No more work till next Tuesday...

47 austin_blue  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:08:52pm

re: #41 Dark_Falcon

It probably will work, too. Change the name, change the mental association. Smart move.

Yes. Archer Daniels Midland is drinking champers and sharing high fives for this coup.

I find myself disgusted at the purveyors of this slow poison. I've done my best to cut it out of my diet. It's damn tough, though. The shit is as pervasive as kudzu.

48 freetoken  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:09:02pm

re: #42 Floral Giraffe

Yes, Greenpeace was at the TJ's yesterday when I stopped by. On my way out they hit me with the "The Planet needs you..." spiel as I whisked past them. I almost went Cato on them....

49 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:10:51pm
50 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:11:58pm

re: #49 Gus 802

Like wow man.

Dave's not here.

51 Firstinla  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:12:46pm

re: #49 Gus 802

Maybe if it breaks down you could tear off a door handle and smoke it while you wait for a tow truck.

52 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:12:52pm

re: #48 freetoken

Yes, Greenpeace was at the TJ's yesterday when I stopped by. On my way out they hit me with the "The Planet needs you..." spiel as I whisked past them. I almost went Cato on them...

If you need to borrow the Death Star, just let me know.
;)

53 What, me worry?  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:12:54pm

re: #35 freetoken

Since I've been bitchin' and moanin' all evening, here is another one:

The local supermarket usually has standing in front of the main doors various beggars groups trying to raise money.

This week it's the Boy Scouts.

They're selling bags of candied (caramel) corn and other similar sweets.

It's junk food pure and simple.

Yet they have these young guys - probably about 7 or 8 years old - hawking the stuff to raise money.

It dawned on me that these youngsters are just tools of Big Ag. The holy Boy Scouts, who the the right-wing idolize so much in this country, are just smiling faces to push corn syrup.

If the Boy Scouts really were about character why not have them work on a local farm (that is still independently own and operated by a family farmer) on weekends and then sell the produce at the end of year?

I hear your complaint about local produce. It's horrifying. Publix sells very little of it and even though Florida grows less than it used to, we get very little local produce.

But I'm a big fan of the Scouts. Girl Scouts anyway. As to the Boys, I don't think they should have to suffer because of a bunch of morons.

If done well, there's room for it all, camping, charity and selling sweets.

54 freetoken  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:13:19pm

re: #38 austin_blue

One reason why the only ice cream I buy anymore are the original (not the newer) Haagen-Dazs flavors is that they still use cane sugar, not HFCS, as well as other real-food ingredients. The newer flavors and nearly all other brands are sickeningly sweet.

55 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:13:47pm

re: #48 freetoken

LOL!
I do go Cato on them occasionally!
Especially the PETA ones, wearing leather!

57 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:15:41pm

re: #28 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #44 HoosierHoops

re: #26 reine.de.tout

Fun folks around tonight!
Hope all is well with everyone!

58 jaunte  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:15:44pm

re: #47 austin_blue

Yes. Archer Daniels Midland is drinking champers and sharing high fives for this coup.

I find myself disgusted at the purveyors of this slow poison. I've done my best to cut it out of my diet. It's damn tough, though. The shit is as pervasive as kudzu.

This increase is sobering:

Today, sugar calories now account for 16 percent of the calories Americans consume, a 50 percent increase from the 1970s.[Link: www.telegram.com...]
59 Firstinla  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:16:07pm

re: #56 Ojoe
I always enjoy these, Ojoe. This one is especially beautiful. Thanks.

60 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:17:17pm

re: #53 marjoriemoon

That's a shame. In the early 60's, we lived in Maitland Fl and my pops sold advertising in the Drover's Journal for the local fruit and vegetable producers.

61 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:17:45pm

re: #49 Gus 802

Like wow man.

The future is Carbon fiber technology like F-1 or/and some really new high tech metals that are being developed...I see the carbons for strength and lightweight characteristics..I'm not seeing hemp..Remember Ford in the 20's R&D peanuts...
You see...That shit burns..And if I die in a flaming hemp car I'm going to be pissed off
/

63 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:18:14pm

re: #59 Firstinla

You are welcome.

64 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:18:27pm

OK, the "What if the Tea Party was Black" video is completely hilarious. The Palin/Sister Souljah analogy is very special.

65 Kragar  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:18:31pm

re: #52 Varek Raith

If you need to borrow the Death Star, just let me know.
;)

Damn thing is the Pinto of superweapons.

66 What, me worry?  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:19:29pm

re: #49 Gus 802

Like wow man.

lol Reminded me of the pot truck in Nice Dreams.

67 austin_blue  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:19:31pm

re: #48 freetoken

Yes, Greenpeace was at the TJ's yesterday when I stopped by. On my way out they hit me with the "The Planet needs you..." spiel as I whisked past them. I almost went Cato on them...

What? You whipped out your dobie-o-matic?

68 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:19:47pm

re: #65 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Damn thing is the Pinto of superweapons.

True.
I have some star killers.
Working on collapsing a galaxy.

69 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:19:54pm

re: #61 HoosierHoops

The future is Carbon fiber technology like F-1 or/and some really new high tech metals that are being developed...I see the carbons for strength and lightweight characteristics..I'm not seeing hemp..Remember Ford in the 20's R&D peanuts...
You see...That shit burns..And if I die in a flaming hemp car I'm going to be pissed off
/

That depends on if the hemp is made from the THC free variety or not.

70 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:20:36pm

re: #69 b_sharp

That depends on if the hemp is made from the THC free variety or not.

Heheheheheh, fire!
Heheheh

71 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:20:42pm

Good evening people.

72 What, me worry?  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:20:49pm

re: #60 prairiefire

That's a shame. In the early 60's, we lived in Maitland Fl and my pops sold advertising in the Drover's Journal for the local fruit and vegetable producers.

We get strawberries from Plant City or nearby. I think watermelon, too. But 90% of it is from South and Central America.

73 Kragar  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:20:54pm

re: #68 Varek Raith

True.
I have some star killers.
Working on collapsing a galaxy.

Virus bombs followed by orbital lance strike to ignite the gases released in decomposition. Gets the job done.

74 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:21:28pm

re: #73 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Virus bombs followed by orbital lance strike to ignite the gases released in decomposition. Gets the job done.

That's way too subtle.

75 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:21:41pm

re: #69 b_sharp

There are two kinds?

76 freetoken  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:21:56pm

She's tweeting again...

Does WH really embrace Woodward book claims/suggestions that Obama's partisan political calculation went into his war strategy? Unfathomable
less than 20 seconds ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

Just think of that... a President inserting politics into policy... what will they think of next?

77 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:22:18pm

re: #68 Varek Raith

True.
I have some star killers.
Working on collapsing a galaxy.

Didn't Kurt Vonnigut say once that the Andromeda Galaxy is speeding towards us at 250,000 mph and nobody really cares?

78 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:22:39pm

re: #43 Gus 802

Smart move for salesmen but creepy move for health advocates. Don't know how much a difference either wording will make though.

It's the name change on the soda cans that will make the difference.

79 Kragar  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:22:51pm

re: #74 Varek Raith

That's way too subtle.

Cyclonic torpedoes into the mantle, shattering the crust?

80 What, me worry?  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:23:57pm

re: #75 prairiefire

There are two kinds?

Hemp is made from the male plant. Can't get ya high. That stuff is made from the female plant. Go figger.

81 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:24:04pm

re: #72 marjoriemoon

Wild. I wonder if the old agricultural land has been developed. Do you remember the painted, corrugated metal warehouses that would have the company's fruit murals painted on the sides?

82 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:24:23pm

re: #79 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Cyclonic torpedoes into the mantle, shattering the crust?

Yep, too subtle.
:P

83 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:24:33pm

re: #75 prairiefire

There are two kinds?

Smokable and non-smokable.

They're different sub-species.

84 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:25:28pm

re: #52 Varek Raith

If you need to borrow the Death Star, just let me know.
;)

I see you more Force Choking the Greenpeace guy while saying "You have bothered me for the last time, hippie."

85 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:25:30pm

Thanks for the info~~I forgot the sarc tag. : )

86 Kragar  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:26:50pm

re: #82 Varek Raith

Yep, too subtle.
:P

I suppose you prefer the kind of superweapons a precocious band of ragtag rebels can easily overwhelm with the help of muppets.

87 jaunte  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:27:20pm

re: #80 marjoriemoon

Hemp is made from the male plant. Can't get ya high. That stuff is made from the female plant. Go figger.

There's a RINO joke here somewhere.
[Link: www.spiegel.de...]

88 What, me worry?  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:27:26pm

re: #81 prairiefire

Wild. I wonder if the old agricultural land has been developed. Do you remember the painted, corrugated metal warehouses that would have the company's fruit murals painted on the sides?

Vaguely! Traveling up the turnpike, all you could see for miles were produce and cattle farms. Mostly oranges. Most all of it has been replaced with palm trees and Christmas trees, actually. I don't remember if I saw any orange groves.

89 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:29:23pm

re: #88 marjoriemoon

The orange groves usually had high brick or cinder brick walls around them, with the only the green tops showing over the wall. Yes, they were all along the highway, from Miami down to the Keys.

90 austin_blue  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:30:54pm

re: #54 freetoken

One reason why the only ice cream I buy anymore are the original (not the newer) Haagen-Dazs flavors is that they still use cane sugar, not HFCS, as well as other real-food ingredients. The newer flavors and nearly all other brands are sickeningly sweet.

Bingo. I eat Amy's:

[Link: www.amysicecreams.com...]

(Note: I met my wife at a party she was attending and co-hosting, Prejudice!)

91 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:31:19pm

Fair and balanced. What a fecking joke. Hannity and O'Reilly are two of the biggest slime balls on cable.

92 What, me worry?  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:32:10pm

re: #81 prairiefire

Wild. I wonder if the old agricultural land has been developed. Do you remember the painted, corrugated metal warehouses that would have the company's fruit murals painted on the sides?

There's tons of farms you can't see from the highway. Years ago, I visited friends in Ocala, Plant City and Dade City and I would see a lot of farms. Maitland is in the Orlando area? I haven't been through those places in awhile.

We're also a top producing beef state.

93 austin_blue  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:32:17pm

re: #77 HoosierHoops

Didn't Kurt Vonnigut say once that the Andromeda Galaxy is speeding towards us at 250,000 mph and nobody really cares?

Yes. Breakfast Of Champions?

94 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:33:06pm

re: #91 Gus 802

Fair and balanced. What a fecking joke. Hannity and O'Reilly are two of the biggest slime balls on cable.

Who could argue with that statement?

95 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:34:15pm

re: #37 Firstinla

I read in the local paper that the industry wants to do away with the term "corn syrup" and substitute "corn sugar." I guess that should do away with the controversy.
/

I look forward to seeing a documentary of the workers putting little sap taps on the cornstalks to collect the sap so they can later boil it down to get the sugar...

/

96 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:36:17pm

re: #92 marjoriemoon

My dad told stories about how the long horn steer where brought into the FL market and did very, very well. Apparently they are hardier than holsteins and thrive well in FL.

97 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:36:27pm

Good evening! I've been working my arse off. Good/bad you know?

Hope you had a great birthday prairiefire, and SFZ, so sorry about your MIL2. Thank goodness you made the trip when you did.

98 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:37:17pm

re: #97 Stanley Sea

Oh and Hoops too! If you are here, hope you had a HB!

99 Firstinla  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:37:17pm

re: #95 oaktree

You been smokin'?

100 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:37:19pm

re: #95 oaktree

I look forward to seeing a documentary of the workers putting little sap taps on the cornstalks to collect the sap so they can later boil it down to get the sugar...

/

Can we get Maple Corn Leaf Stalk Candy made from Pure Maple Syrup Corn Sugar?

//

101 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:38:29pm

David Frum lays the smack down on the Stalker Blog:

Against Dumb

It refers to an attack on his "Join the Counter Revolution!" ad by Chief Stalker Rodan (AKA "Daedalus"):

Our FrumForum intern ad has stirred criticism in a corner of the blogosphere.

David Frum’s true colors

Frum has a poster of Lenin and is claiming he wants a Counter Revolution as opposed to the Conservative Revolution going on now. This picture reveals what he is, a Totalitarian Progressive.

Actually I don’t “have” a poster of Lenin. What you are looking at in the ad is a Warsaw street installation. A giant red-tinted image of Lenin confronted an equally huge white-tinted image of Josef Pilsudski, commemorating the 90th anniversary of the Russo-Polish war of 1920. The Polish language street sign visible in the picture might (you’d think) act as some kind of tip-off.

But then, hints and tips must bounce off the skull of anyone who could write the sentence quoted above. Which brings us back to the ad: This website exists because I devoutly believe that there exists a huge national audience of people who believe in limited government, free markets, technological progress, and a strong American role in the world – but who do not want to be represented and championed by paranoid idiots. They would have proudly voted for Ronald Reagan in 1984, but they recoiled from Sarah Palin in 2008. They are for freedom, but against dumb. And some have the time, energy and passion to join the cause personally.

Maybe you’re such a person yourself? Or know one? We could use your help. Apply for a FrumForum internship – or send the link to an interested younger person – and help us storm the Winter Palace of stupidity!

You know you're sane when Rodan calls you a "Totalitarian Progressive".

102 austin_blue  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:38:33pm

re: #94 b_sharp

Who could argue with that statement?

Me. Beck and Palin weren't included.

Fie! Fie!

103 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:38:45pm

re: #97 Stanley Sea

*smooch*hug* thank you! We are almost out of birthday cake at our house. Hope you are well!

104 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:39:08pm

re: #98 Stanley Sea

Oh and Hoops too! If you are here, hope you had a HB!

Thank you! Just Winston and I hanging at the Hotel.

105 Firstinla  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:39:08pm

Any word on Albusteve and his progress? I've been away and have probably missed a lot of updates.

106 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:39:58pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

David Frum lays the smack down on the Stalker Blog:

Against Dumb

It refers to an attack on his "Join the Counter Revolution!" ad by Chief Stalker Rodan (AKA "Daedalus"):

You know you're sane when Rodan calls you a "Totalitarian Progressive".

Excellent! Hahaha! This one's a keeper: Winter Palace of Stupidity

107 What, me worry?  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:41:12pm

re: #89 prairiefire

The orange groves usually had high brick or cinder brick walls around them, with the only the green tops showing over the wall. Yes, they were all along the highway, from Miami down to the Keys.

Much of that is gone. They started disappearing around 10 years ago during the citrus canker scare which was a fiasco. They started cutting personal trees. I lost 4 fruit trees after they told me my trees were NOT effected.

Citrus canker, btw, does nothing to the fruit. It's perfectly fine, it just has ugly lumps on the skin and won't sell.

I tried to find a good article on it, but came up short :)

108 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:41:20pm

re: #103 prairiefire

*smooch*hug* thank you! We are almost out of birthday cake at our house. Hope you are well!

Ladies. You do know there are quite a few handsome and intelligent men here you could be smooching and hugging?

If this keeps up we're going to get inferiority complexes.

109 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:41:36pm

re: #105 Firstinla

Any word on Albusteve and his progress? I've been away and have probably missed a lot of updates.

He is coming along..He posts sometimes...
Keep him in your prayers..Cause you know.. that really pisses him off..
*wink*

110 What, me worry?  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:42:19pm

re: #96 prairiefire

My dad told stories about how the long horn steer where brought into the FL market and did very, very well. Apparently they are hardier than holsteins and thrive well in FL.

Not surprising. I don't know where we rank currently in beef production, but we used to be top 3. I think over Texas, but I'd have to look that up.

111 Firstinla  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:42:27pm

re: #109 HoosierHoops

I know it does, so I do.

112 engineer cat  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:42:45pm

Salesman Pete is 57 flavors of awesome.

astonishing

113 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:43:53pm

re: #104 HoosierHoops

Thank you! Just Winston and I hanging at the Hotel.

I know you are not on vaca, but dang what I would give to be in a hotel right now!!!

114 austin_blue  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:44:38pm

re: #109 HoosierHoops

He is coming along..He posts sometimes...
Keep him in your prayers..Cause you know.. that really pisses him off..
*wink*

Now *that's* funny!

Steve, if you are out there, be safe and be well! You are in my thoughts.

115 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:45:09pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

I'm sane! I'm sane!

116 What, me worry?  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:45:18pm

re: #108 b_sharp

Ladies. You do know there are quite a few handsome and intelligent men here you could be smooching and hugging?

If this keeps up we're going to get inferiority complexes.

*smooch* {{b_sharp}}

117 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:45:21pm

I did not kiss ladies on the cheek until I married into an Italian family for a bit. A room full of around 12 aunts, cousins, and grandmas. "Brace yourself, here we go," double kiss ~ everybody. Completely different than my own Frigidaire WASP family.

118 austin_blue  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:45:55pm

re: #113 Stanley Sea

I know you are not on vaca, but dang what I would give to be in a hotel right now!!!

TMI, dude. Sheesh.

By the way, want to rent a donkey?

119 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:46:42pm

re: #115 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm sane! I'm sane!

Also, I apparently have more in common with David Frum than I would have expected.

120 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:47:22pm

re: #116 marjoriemoon

*smooch* {{b_sharp}}

Aww. Shucks.

{{marjoriemoon}}

121 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:48:38pm

re: #106 Gus 802

Excellent! Hahaha! This one's a keeper: Winter Palace of Stupidity

It's damn good, though I still prefer "Fever Swamp" myself. But its an excellent way to take Rodan's insult and throw it back at him.

122 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:49:43pm

re: #121 Dark_Falcon

It's damn good, though I still prefer "Fever Swamp" myself. But its an excellent way to take Rodan's insult and throw it back at him.

They have to be the biggest dip shits of all wingnut bloggers.

123 engineer cat  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:52:19pm

but who do not want to be represented and championed by paranoid idiots

gee, some people never want to have any fun!

124 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:52:36pm

Night, lizards.

125 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:52:41pm

re: #113 Stanley Sea

I know you are not on vaca, but dang what I would give to be in a hotel right now!!!

The funny thing about hanging in a Hotel for 8 or 9 days...
Every time you close the door in the morning to go to work..I wonder what the maid thinks of me and the Judgment on the first floor of all the maids..I have maid service and I clean up in the morning..It's effen Catholic Guilt!

126 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:53:07pm

re: #108 b_sharp

Ladies. You do know there are quite a few handsome and intelligent men here you could be smooching and hugging?

If this keeps up we're going to get inferiority complexes.

Dude, are you not happily married?

127 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:53:23pm

re: #123 engineer dog

but who do not want to be represented and championed by paranoid idiots

gee, some people never want to have any fun!

They are for freedom, but against dumb.

128 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:53:59pm

re: #115 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm sane! I'm sane!

So you keep saying!
/// and ///

129 What, me worry?  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:55:13pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

What a delicious bite!

130 simoom  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:56:53pm

Bad news for "America's Sheriff", Joe Arpaio:

[Link: www.azcentral.com...]

The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office misused at least $50 million from a fund for jail operations, and county supervisors may have to use the general fund to repay the money, top county officials say.

Findings by the county's Office of Management and Budget show the Sheriff's Office tapped the money to pay for functions not allowed under jail-fund rules, such as salaries for deputies who worked on public-corruption investigations into county supervisors and judges.
...
The questioned spending came at a time when sheriff's officials failed to meet the state-mandated function of getting inmates to court on time, prompting a chief deputy to be held in contempt.
...
Officials agree the county must act to reimburse the jail fund. The board could decide to make a lump-sum payment, reimburse the fund over time, or take the money out of the county's contingency fund.

I guess this means Joe won't be running for President?

Also:

The board has set a hearing next Wednesday for the Sheriff's Office to appear and explain why it should not be held in contempt for not turning over additional financial and other records.

I think I'm sensing a pattern here...

131 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:57:25pm

re: #126 Floral Giraffe

Dude, are you not happily married?

Absolutely.

But sometimes people need to be teased.

132 austin_blue  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:57:43pm

re: #130 simoom

Bad news for "America's Sheriff", Joe Arpaio:

[Link: www.azcentral.com...]

I guess this means Joe won't be running for President?

Also:

I think I'm sensing a pattern here...

Doh!!

133 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:57:59pm

re: #129 marjoriemoon

What a delicious bite!

Village of the Damned fail blog gets owned by former speech writer to President George W. Bush, David Frum.

Film @ 11.

134 austin_blue  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:59:02pm

re: #126 Floral Giraffe

Dude, are you not happily married?

I think he's trolling for sexting.

;-)

135 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 8:59:48pm

re: #131 b_sharp

Absolutely.

But sometimes people need to be teased.

And spanked! LOL!

136 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:05:15pm
137 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:06:07pm

re: #135 Floral Giraffe

And spanked! LOL!

Now you're talking.

138 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:14:30pm

re: #130 simoom

Asshole, bigot with power. Went the celeb route. I hope they bust his ass.

139 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:18:49pm

This has to be the strangest election year ever.

140 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:19:14pm

'Night.

141 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:21:13pm

re: #135 Floral Giraffe

And spanked! LOL!

I'll go get the paddle...

142 austin_blue  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:28:49pm

Good night, sweet Lizardi! Sweet dreams.

143 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:34:02pm

re: #139 Gus 802

This has to be the strangest election year ever.

Very true. From an Illinois perspective it's good if you're a Republican. Bill Brady still leads Pat Quinn by double digits and looks like a shoo-in.

144 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:36:33pm

OK. I called the Facebook CEO a douche earlier. In fairness I'll note this that I just read and applaud.

Facebook CEO to Gift $100M to Newark Schools

145 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:39:44pm

re: #144 Gus 802

OK. I called the Facebook CEO a douche earlier. In fairness I'll note this that I just read and applaud.

Facebook CEO to Gift $100M to Newark Schools

I hope that helps things. Newark needs more than money in its schools. The good news is that the state still runs Newark's schools and Chris Christie will ensure the money is spent honestly. This is a major chance to turn those schools around, if the chance is taken.

146 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:39:46pm

re: #143 Dark_Falcon

Very true. From an Illinois perspective it's good if you're a Republican. Bill Brady still leads Pat Quinn by double digits and looks like a shoo-in.

Some real off kilter stuff. Good news though is the anti-Park51 insanity finally died down. I sort of expected that to occur after the passing of the 9/11 anniversary. Of course no one is out of the woods yet.

147 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:42:59pm

re: #146 Gus 802

Some real off kilter stuff. Good news though is the anti-Park51 insanity finally died down. I sort of expected that to occur after the passing of the 9/11 anniversary. Of course no one is out of the woods yet.

That is good news. Now some actual issues can be discussed.

148 freetoken  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:44:08pm

Science lesson of the night, about the recently discovered dinosaurs in Utah - an informative video:

149 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:45:08pm

re: #144 Gus 802

OK. I called the Facebook CEO a douche earlier. In fairness I'll note this that I just read and applaud.

Facebook CEO to Gift $100M to Newark Schools

I hope it was a very restricted "directed" gift. With the schools being told EXACTLY how to use the monies.
Otherwise it just gets frittered away, and doesn't achieve it's goals.
IMHO Bill Gates is great at "directed" gifts.

150 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:45:24pm

Gotta get to bed. Night, all.

151 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:45:35pm

re: #147 Dark_Falcon

That is good news. Now some actual issues can be discussed.

Nationally that will have to wait until after the election day. Officially that is.

152 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:46:21pm

re: #139 Gus 802

This has to be the strangest election year ever.

Nah, each one has it's own version of crazy.

153 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:50:10pm

re: #152 Floral Giraffe

Nah, each one has it's own version of crazy.

True enough. Must have been strange to have seen the reaction towards JFK's Catholicism. The reaction towards Romney's Mormonism seems odd too. Even though I think Romney can be a knucklehead sometimes having lived in Colorado for all these year I don't think of Mormonism as something foreign.

154 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:54:17pm

Good night, all...

155 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:57:05pm

I remember this back when I was a kid. Regarding Eagelton who was to be McGovern's running mate.

Eagleton was McGovern's vice presidential nominee in 1972, but dropped out after it was revealed that he had been hospitalized for psychiatric treatment and had twice undergone electroshock therapy for depression. McGovern chose Sargent Shriver to replace Eagleton and lost to Richard Nixon in the general election.

This is interesting as well:

Eagleton was considered liberal, but he criticized busing to achieve school desegregation and, as a practicing Roman Catholic, strongly opposed abortion.

[Link: www.godeke.org...]

156 Gus  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 10:01:58pm

OK Good night from here as well.

157 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 10:05:20pm

How about a little Bill Hicks?

Warning: Not Safe for Rednecks.

158 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 10:10:39pm

re: #28 LudwigVanQuixote

I hope all is well with you & yours.
*smooch*

159 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:00:31pm

re: #130 simoom

In my wildest dreams, I hope that Joe Arpaio is tossed in prison and forced to endure life on the other side

160 darthstar  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:11:58pm

Hey everyone...went and saw a very good play tonight up in Marin called "The Red and Brown Water" - cast of about seven African Americans and one white guy, set in a New Orleans neighborhood, about this girl, Oya, who was a great runner and had an offer for a college scholarship (the white guy played the college recruiter), but stayed home an extra year because her mom was ill...well, mom dies, Oya hooks up with one guy, and a year later the college isn't interested in her any longer, so she's stuck in the 'hood...suffice it to say, the story goes downhill from there.

It was very well done - stage had no props...just a blank slate, and the actors did all the "music" with hands, feet, and voices - some beautiful acapella singing, and the one thing that took a little getting used to was the actors reciting the stage direction to the audience as they spoke (eg: Oya: "Oya looks up and sighs...Sigh").

161 darthstar  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:30:03pm

Holy Schnitzel!

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Gerhard Kaltscheuer said his giant schnitzels are popular in the town of Hammerbruecke and he sells about 70 dishes per day. He said tax officials told him they believe he sells 200 portions daily based on the amount of raw material he purchases.

162 freetoken  Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:32:52pm
163 freetoken  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 12:04:03am
164 freetoken  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 12:15:51am
165 freetoken  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 12:57:13am
166 boredtechindenver  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 1:17:13am

So I put an offer on the remodeled house with more space, but a smaller yard. It came down to the monthly payment. The three main things I see needing to be done in a short time are building a deck/patio, putting a carport in the back with an electric gate and putting in a good hood over the cooktop.

Do any lizards have a cooktop on an island or counter with out a wall? How do you keep the splatter from going everywhere?

167 freetoken  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 1:22:06am

re: #166 boredtechindenver

So I put an offer on the remodeled house with more space, but a smaller yard.

Congratulations.

So, did you play lowball?

168 boredtechindenver  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 1:32:10am

I offered 175K, 20K lower than the asking price, plus 6K for closing costs. I would have offered 170, because I know they paid 122 earlier this year, but I am guessing they had at least 30k in remodeling. If I have to bet, it will end up being 179 to 182, but I am hoping they bite at 175. If they counter at 185, I will go to 180 and hold. I am still deciding what to do if they don't counter. It is a corporation (LLC) that did the remodel, so I am hoping and guessing that they have more than one project going at a time and aren't dependent on getting all that they are asking for, but do want the cash flow.

169 boredtechindenver  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 1:35:37am

and thank you freetoken. bouncing my search off of you has been a great help. I do wish i could have gotten the one with the sun room, but the estimated monthly payment, while doable with my current job, frightened me because I work for an Indian company, and I am the outsourced position.

170 pharmmajor  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 2:00:44am

You guys wanna see something really addictive?

171 freetoken  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 2:01:49am

re: #168 boredtechindenver

IMO it's a buyers market for some time... if it were me I'd stick to my price.

Bottom line is as the buyer you're controlling this deal more than them.

Yeah, I know you really want a house, but the salesmen will try their hardest to not "leave money on the table" and it's up to you to give it to them or not.

172 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 2:54:12am

Don Trunbert 2010: I Just Don't Care

Having noticed that any moron with a sports coat and a Supercuts discount card can successfully run for office while screaming "Moslem" this and "masturbation" that, I've decided that the enormous lengths I've gone to cover up my sordid personal life and questionable political intentions are no longer necessary.

173 simoom  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 3:33:28am

Good news from Florida:

[Link: www.npr.org...]

Florida Gov. Charlie Crist said the state will stop enforcing its law banning adoption by gay people after an appeals court on Wednesday ruled it unconstitutional.

Florida is the only state that expressly prohibits gay couples from adopting.
...
The court's three-judge panel noted that gays and lesbians are the only people banned from adopting, while all others — including people with criminal histories or past substance abuse problems — are considered on a case-by-case basis.
...
In announcing the state would stop enforcing the ban, Crist called the decision "great."

174 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 3:42:02am

Just up in pages: Sarah Palin is coming to Lubbock!

Sarah Palin to speak at Lubbock Christian School fundraiser

Tickets are $200 to $2000 (!) each in blocks of 10. The venue seats 1400 and is expected to be sold out. Most of the tickets are going to corporate buyers, so apparently quite a few of the yokel fatcats feel it's worth up to 20K a pop just to get close to the wingnut icon. A reception and photo op are included for high-dollar ticket holders.
(A local TV talking head, Sharon Maines, stated this morning that cocktails were included, but LCS is a Church of Christ school so this seems about as likely as me attending this event. Sharon is Natalie's aunt, btw.)

175 fat bastard vegetarian  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 4:48:49am

re: #157 Cato the Elder

Bill Hicks was a great comic.

176 RogueOne  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 5:01:34am

Pres. Clinton is about to appear on Morning Joe.

177 RogueOne  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 5:06:03am

Terry McCauliffe just said the public has a right to be mad and upset.....obviously he's a wingnut.

178 Ericus58  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 5:26:48am

Juarez editorial ignites a beleaguered Mexico

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

" A newspaper's stunning, front-page editorial of seeming surrender to drug capos has set off a national debate from the presidential palace to Mexico's equivalent of the water cooler — its ubiquitous town squares.

"What do you want from us?" El Diario de Juarez asked the cartels whose war for control of the border city across from El Paso, Texas, has killed nearly 5,000 people — including two El Diario journalists — in less than two years. "You are currently the de facto authorities in this city ... Tell us what you expect from us as a newspaper?"

For many Mexicans, it was a voice that finally exposed in a very public and unusual way the intimidation felt across the country."

179 Ericus58  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 5:44:08am

Loretta Sanchez - RACIST words against the Vietnamese people

"Orange County Democrat CA congresswoman Loretta Sanchez belittles the Vietnamese people in Spanish on Univision."

Guess this congresscritter let loose her inner thought's thinking that she was safely speaking to her "own".

180 DaddyG  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 5:45:00am

re: #35 freetoken I hated selling products when I was a band kid and I hate my kids selling them now for school and scouts. The worst ones are the PTA fund raisers that go into some general school fund and where they give the kid who sold the most junk some trinkets.

Our Scout troop does an auction with donated goods to raise money for camp. The church members and other sponsors are very generous with their services and gifts, the scouts raise almost everything they need for camp in one evening and the people who come and bid get some really neat stuff (from airplane rides to gas grills to homemade jams) for a bargain price. Win-Win-Win

A free car wash where the groups take donations isn't a bad fund raiser either.

181 DaddyG  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 5:49:03am

re: #49 Gus 802

Like wow man.


Early orders for the car include Cheech Marin and half the faculty of UC Berkeley. /

182 DaddyG  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 5:55:29am

re: #77 HoosierHoops

Didn't Kurt Vonnigut say once that the Andromeda Galaxy is speeding towards us at 250,000 mph and nobody really cares?


That's our grandchildren's problem. /

183 DaddyG  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 5:56:09am

Its lonely in here this morning.

184 DaddyG  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 5:58:19am

re: #80 marjoriemoon

Hemp is made from the male plant. Can't get ya high. That stuff is made from the female plant. Go figger.

Its all about the seduction...

185 Ericus58  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 5:58:42am

re: #183 DaddyG

Its lonely in here this morning.

Do you need a hug? How about a blankie?

I blame it on being the first day of fall.

186 DaddyG  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:02:59am

re: #100 Gus 802

Can we get Maple Corn Leaf Stalk Candy made from Pure Maple Syrup Corn Sugar?

//


Where do you think those little candy corns come from? /

187 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:03:59am
188 DaddyG  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:17:44am

re: #187 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well? Ain't just the wingnuts...

No it isn't.

I was just having a discussion with my older children yesterday about how the lunacy on the right has turned me off from a long relationship with the GOP. They asked if I was going to identify as a Democrat now and I replied "they haven't done anything to gain my trust as a party either."

I'm guessing that there is a critical mass of people who are unhappy with the way our representatives are not representing us. The Democrats will take the hit this time around because they are by and large the incumbant party. But the Socons in the GOP are fools to think it is their ideas and platforms that are winning them votes.

189 iossarian  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:21:35am

Speaking of electric cars, is this the shape of things to come?

China may force automakers to share EV secrets

190 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:22:03am

re: #188 DaddyG

No it isn't.

I was just having a discussion with my older children yesterday about how the lunacy on the right has turned me off from a long relationship with the GOP. They asked if I was going to identify as a Democrat now and I replied "they haven't done anything to gain my trust as a party either."

I'm guessing that there is a critical mass of people who are unhappy with the way our representatives are not representing us. The Democrats will take the hit this time around because they are by and large the incumbant party. But the Socons in the GOP are fools to think it is their ideas and platforms that are winning them votes.

I just hope things shake out for the better sooner rather than later. A see-saw of "incumbent backlash" elections won't be any way to run a country. Though I guess it would also show considerable delusion in the leadership of the respective parties when they continue to interpret the thrashings back and forth as a mandate rather than a symptom of a citizenry being unhappy with their representation from either side. (And arguably reacting in the only peaceful manner they can.)

191 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:22:39am

re: #189 iossarian

Speaking of electric cars, is this the shape of things to come?

China may force automakers to share EV secrets

I thought TR7 was the shape of things to come. That, or Raymond Massey...

192 Ericus58  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:30:02am

re: #189 iossarian

Speaking of electric cars, is this the shape of things to come?

China may force automakers to share EV secrets

Nice.
Strong-arm the manufacturers and developers of technology gains in order to gain market access. Then a few years down the road, produce a competing product using the knowledge against the same manufacturers.

I thought I read earlier in this thread some mentioning the Chinese in a glowing light in regards to them having a "can do" attitude similar to America past...

193 kirkspencer  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:30:24am

re: #191 oaktree

I thought TR7 was the shape of things to come. That, or Raymond Massey...

No, the shape of things to come is still flying cars.

194 iossarian  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:35:32am

re: #192 Ericus58

Nice.
Strong-arm the manufacturers and developers of technology gains in order to gain market access. Then a few years down the road, produce a competing product using the knowledge against the same manufacturers.

I thought I read earlier in this thread some mentioning the Chinese in a glowing light in regards to them having a "can do" attitude similar to America past...

To be fair, China is simply acting in its own interest, which is what all countries do. If we keep shoveling money to China, this kind of thing is inevitable (in fact, it's probably inevitable regardless of what we do).

195 Lidane  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:35:54am

*sigh*

Somebody post something intelligent, please. Or some cool music. That would work too. A friend of mine on Facebook just posted a video of Brietbart and he's acting as if it's some big revelation and like Brietbart is actually a credible source on anything.

196 Political Atheist  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:37:12am

Good Morning all. Just finished paging my first ever HD video on Vimeo. After a little embed trouble... It works at last.

197 Lidane  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:37:52am

re: #179 Ericus58

Ugh. That's repulsive. She should be ashamed of herself.

198 Decatur Deb  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:44:55am

re: #191 oaktree

I thought TR7 was the shape of things to come. That, or Raymond Massey...

Nice brace of retro allusions.

199 Interesting Times  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:46:54am

re: #197 Lidane

Ugh. That's repulsive. She should be ashamed of herself.

Immigrants railing against other immigrants as "anti-immigrant"? I think my irony meter just exploded o_O

On a lighter note, it reminds me of this hilarious bit from Indian comedian Russell Peters:

200 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:47:35am

re: #193 kirkspencer

No, the shape of things to come is still flying cars.

I think the logistics and tech for a effective ultralight-Humvee are a bit more than five years away. Effective being that the vehicle is not a boondoggle in terms of maintenance, operational requirements, or massively expensive for the designed task.

201 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:49:46am

I just got ineterwebz back after 24 hours. I am mainlining this. But, I don't have a problem.
/Morning Honcos!!

202 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:51:32am

I did a 3 mile walk this morning while it was cool out. Thought I broke a toe on Tuesday. Guess it was just jammed. Worked itself out. Woot!!

203 Ericus58  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:52:31am

re: #194 iossarian

To be fair, China is simply acting in its own interest, which is what all countries do. If we keep shoveling money to China, this kind of thing is inevitable (in fact, it's probably inevitable regardless of what we do).

Technology sharing is more limited, rather business and governments are more keen to have the manufacturing shared to win the contracts. "we'll buy if you produce them here".

The Chinese have a history of taking the technology of a manufacturing facility within their country and using it to duplicate the same product - sometimes in the same building - and completing against that manufacturer.

204 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:54:04am

re: #195 Lidane

Okay, here goes.

Fatah is now claiming that it will crack down on Palestinian rioters in Jerusalem following yesterday's riots. "They don't want to give Israel the excuse to stop further negotiations."

Palestinian sources said the PA wants to see the violence ebb "so not to give Israel an excuse for agitation while peace talks were ongoing and so close to the end of the settlement freeze."

The sources added that the PA wanted to refrain from any escalation which Israel may use an excuse to delay negotiations.

Both Fatah and PA sources said they believe the violence will die down Thursday, although they could not rule out sporadic violence during the three-day mourning period called for Sarchan.

Senior Fatah member Mohammad Dahlan said Israel was trying to stir up a third intifada, defining Sarchan's shooting by an Israeli security guard as "crossing all the red lines."

What's left unsaid is that the incident was precipitated and caused by Palestinian rioters in the first place- when they attacked a vehicle carrying private Israeli security guards heading to their homes in Silwan. They were cornered, cut off, and rocks were thrown at the vehicle. The security guard fired in the air to no effect, and took a single shot at the rioters - killing one. That led to a mass outbreak of rioting in all the usual locations.

But for the Palestinians rioting and throwing rocks at the Israelis, the Israeli security guard would not have fired in self-defense. No rioting by Palestinians, no additional riots at the Temple Mount.

It's just more of the same from Fatah.

205 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:55:07am

re: #198 Decatur Deb

Nice brace of retro allusions.

Showing my age with the former. ;)

And the Raymond Massey bit just added itself on. Keep seeing him on movies shown on TCM, and I find him generally enjoyable to watch in various roles.

206 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:58:10am

Fringe season premier is on tonight. Yippee!!!!

207 pharmmajor  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:59:00am

Charles, sorry to bring this up again, but I asked you in two e-mails and you haven't responded, so I thought I'd ask here: why exactly do you have an animosity towards Libertarians?

208 RogueOne  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:03:28am

re: #188 DaddyG

No it isn't.

I was just having a discussion with my older children yesterday about how the lunacy on the right has turned me off from a long relationship with the GOP. They asked if I was going to identify as a Democrat now and I replied "they haven't done anything to gain my trust as a party either."

I'm guessing that there is a critical mass of people who are unhappy with the way our representatives are not representing us. The Democrats will take the hit this time around because they are by and large the incumbant party. But the Socons in the GOP are fools to think it is their ideas and platforms that are winning them votes.

They're running on fiscal responsibility, kinda like the dems did during the Bush years, but they'll take this victory as a mandate to push for all their pet projects. They'll win this time and in 2012 only to take it on the chin again later. Short-term memory issues seems to be a big problem when someone gets elected.

209 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:03:40am

re: #207 pharmmajor

Charles, sorry to bring this up again, but I asked you in two e-mails and you haven't responded, so I thought I'd ask here: why exactly do you have an animosity towards Libertarians?

I've got the distinct impression that all his animosity is aimed towards irrationality, idiocy, and those who attempt to use it for political and personal gain.

210 RogueOne  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:06:26am

re: #202 Cannadian Club Akbar

I did a 3 mile walk this morning while it was cool out. Thought I broke a toe on Tuesday. Guess it was just jammed. Worked itself out. Woot!!

My dog tripped me while we were playing last month and I broke a toe. My toe was a cool shade of purple/black that spread down my foot. Looked neat but hurt like hell.

211 What, me worry?  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:07:25am

re: #204 lawhawk

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

212 RogueOne  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:07:52am

re: #209 oaktree

I've got the distinct impression that all his animosity is aimed towards irrationality, idiocy, and those who attempt to use it for political and personal gain.

Libertarians and political gains don't even belong in the same sentence.

213 Slap  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:09:24am

re: #199 publicityStunted

Many thanks -- Russell Peters is one of the funniest guys I've run across in ages....!

Spread the word!

214 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:12:41am

Addressing an activist pushing for more funding for global AIDS initiatives, the president said, "We heard your point. And as I said before, we increased AIDS funding. ... The people who will take over if we don't focus on the election, I promise you, will cut AIDS funding."

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Uh, which President funded AIDS reseach more than any other, Mr. President?
FAIL.

215 RogueOne  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:17:24am

I have work to do, going completely galt has been more work than I expected.

216 filetandrelease  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:25:33am

A very encouraging message from Muslim leaders on this side of the pond for anyone who hasn't seen it.

217 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:28:25am

re: #214 Cannadian Club Akbar

Addressing an activist pushing for more funding for global AIDS initiatives, the president said, "We heard your point. And as I said before, we increased AIDS funding. ... The people who will take over if we don't focus on the election, I promise you, will cut AIDS funding."

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Uh, which President funded AIDS reseach more than any other, Mr. President?
FAIL.

We've always been at war with Eastasia.

218 Taqyia2Me  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:30:52am

re: #214 Cannadian Club Akbar

Addressing an activist pushing for more funding for global AIDS initiatives, the president said, "We heard your point. And as I said before, we increased AIDS funding. ... The people who will take over if we don't focus on the election, I promise you, will cut AIDS funding."

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Uh, which President funded AIDS reseach more than any other, Mr. President?
FAIL.

That fail there by our president fits into the 'absolute fail' category, for the reason you cited.

219 Ericus58  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:31:19am

re: #216 filetandrelease

A very encouraging message from Muslim leaders on this side of the pond for anyone who hasn't seen it.

Thoughtful. Worthy of recognition.
Thanks for posting.

220 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:32:24am

Another day, and another poll in NY for the race between Paladino and Cuomo.

Democrats can breathe a sigh of relief as the Siena College poll tracks the Rassmussen poll, finding Cuomo comfortably in the lead 57% to 24%. That suggests that yesterday's touted Quinnipiac College poll was an outlier when it claimed that there was a six point spread (nearly within the 3.5+/- MOE).

I don't think that Paladino stands much of a chance, even taking Quinnipiac at face value. It will turn on GOTV and getting Democrats to go vote while GOPers/TP are very energized at this point.

221 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:32:42am

An official good morning to the Lizard Community.

No Philly weather report today since I'm using an interior room today with no windows. Redeeming feature is close access to the coffee and water dispensers.

Expanding my IT knowledge today with more jack-of-all-trades work. Since there are office moves going on, and all the tech support people are in another city doing a network conversion, I got tasked with troubleshooting network connection issues here.

So I get to run around every so often this week to figure out why a computer can't access the network after being moved. Including the odd, almost quantum-like, behavior of network switch cables. A cable that works between the switch and a certain data port fails to work when changed to a different port. Use a different switch cable to the port and things work. Then check the faulty cable with a third port - and it works.

O_o

I normally work with databases and application security. My hardware training is minimal beyond knowing the basics of hooking various devices up.

Need. More. Coffee.

222 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:32:55am

re: #218 Taqyia2Me

That fail there by our president fits into the 'absolute fail' category, for the reason you cited.

Except that the congresscritters coming in all think that only teh ghey gets AIDS and that they all deserve to die.

223 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:35:01am

re: #222 PT Barnum

Except that the congresscritters coming in all think that only teh ghey gets AIDS and that they all deserve to die.

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

224 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:35:02am

re: #221 oaktree

An official good morning to the Lizard Community.

No Philly weather report today since I'm using an interior room today with no windows. Redeeming feature is close access to the coffee and water dispensers.

Expanding my IT knowledge today with more jack-of-all-trades work. Since there are office moves going on, and all the tech support people are in another city doing a network conversion, I got tasked with troubleshooting network connection issues here.

So I get to run around every so often this week to figure out why a computer can't access the network after being moved. Including the odd, almost quantum-like, behavior of network switch cables. A cable that works between the switch and a certain data port fails to work when changed to a different port. Use a different switch cable to the port and things work. Then check the faulty cable with a third port - and it works.

O_o

I normally work with databases and application security. My hardware training is minimal beyond knowing the basics of hooking various devices up.

Need. More. Coffee.

Network stuff sucks. Even more stinky is connectivity across the network between clients and servers, as I am dealing with that right now. Have I mentioned before how much I @#$@! hate @#$#@ @#$@$#! @W#$R%@#!@ QUICKBOOKS!

225 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:36:08am

re: #223 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

My point was that it's not the same crew getting voted in this time. The people who are coming in are much more guanomanic than they were in Bush's era.

226 darthstar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:36:27am

re: #172 Obdicut

Don Trunbert 2010: I Just Don't Care


Funny stuff...and I like how he bolds the positive campaign messages because that's all people pay attention to...

So when you're ferried to the polls by some idiot bus driver lacking a middle school education, in between swigs of Rebel Yell make sure your finger jams the button next to my name.

Because states' rights, no amnesty for immigrants, taxed enough already, take our country back, and America, America, America. Now fuck off, you joyless rubes.

227 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:38:45am

re: #224 PT Barnum

Network stuff sucks. Even more stinky is connectivity across the network between clients and servers, as I am dealing with that right now. Have I mentioned before how much I @#$@! hate @#$#@ @#$@$#! @W#$R%@#!@ QUICKBOOKS!

Tell us how you really feel PT... ;)

My adventures in a few weeks will involve helping with the conversion of the HQ over to primarily using the Brazilian network instead of the current US one (still dependent on the company we were bought from.)

I expect application hell to ensue since the interfaces between various systems will get bottle-necked through the limited connection between the new and old areas. (We will be supporting some stuff for both companies through the end of the year.)

Yummy.

228 darthstar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:40:54am

re: #214 Cannadian Club Akbar

Bush's AIDS work at the end of his term was the one positive thing he did, but not without some speed bumps...first, he promised 15 billion then delivered about 2 billion in aid the first two years...and the "no aid for distributing condoms in favor of Xian abstinence programs" thing (which changed, I believe) also brought him a lot of criticism in the early days. Still, it was one good legacy from eight years.

229 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:45:25am

re: #228 darthstar

Bush's AIDS work at the end of his term was the one positive thing he did, but not without some speed bumps...first, he promised 15 billion then delivered about 2 billion in aid the first two years...and the "no aid for distributing condoms in favor of Xian abstinence programs" thing (which changed, I believe) also brought him a lot of criticism in the early days. Still, it was one good legacy from eight years.

Good to know that you will admit Bush did one positive thing during his eight years in office.//

230 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:46:36am

re: #227 oaktree

Tell us how you really feel PT... ;)

All file sharing applications are evil, but even more evil when one tries to apply client/server to file sharing applications.

Quickbooks is a file sharing app, which means that unless there is a data server already running the first person to log in becomes the file host, unbeknownst to them. Which means if they shut down, everybody goes down.

Then in the process of trying to get the @#$@!@! remote data server to work, the connectivity doesn't always recognize that the host file has been set up to allow remote access.

If I drive to California and throw eggs at the Intuit headquarters building, will you guys come and bail me out? I'd bring explosives, but I'm only frustrated, not psychotic.

231 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:47:31am

re: #229 rwdflynavy

Good to know that you will admit Bush did one positive thing during his eight years in office.//

Not sure it's balanced out by all the dumbfuckery that we endured during the same period.

232 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:47:46am

re: #229 rwdflynavy

Good to know that you will admit Bush did one positive thing during his eight years in office.//

My boss was freaking with his hate of Bush yesterday. He is generally moderate/left. But he went off. I've known the guy for 13 years. He went nuts.

233 darthstar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:47:49am

re: #229 rwdflynavy

Good to know that you will admit Bush did one positive thing during his eight years in office.//

I'm feeling generous today.

234 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:48:25am

re: #230 PT Barnum

Explosive eggs. Heh.

235 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:48:47am

re: #232 Cannadian Club Akbar

My boss was freaking with his hate of Bush yesterday. He is generally moderate/left. But he went off. I've known the guy for 13 years. He went nuts.

I'm guessing that more and more people will feel the same way as the full consequences of the Bush accidency become known.

236 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:48:59am

re: #199 publicityStunted

Immigrants railing against other immigrants as "anti-immigrant"? I think my irony meter just exploded o_O

From Wiki:

...Tran worked as an intern and later as a staff aide for Congressman Bob Dornan and for State Senator Ed Royce while a student at the University of California, Irvine, where he earned a B.A. in Political Science in 1990...

...Recently, Van Tran kicked off his campaign to unseat Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) after having been heavily recruited by national Republican leaders.

According to Politico, during summer 2009, GOP leaders like Rep. Kevin McCarthy and Lynn Westmoreland will travel parts of the country to recruit candidates to run against incumbent Democrats for the next election cycle in 2010. "McCarthy likes to talk about Van Tran, a Vietnamese-born Orange County Republican he has recruited to run against Democratic Rep. Loretta Sanchez. Tran raised more than $250,000 in his first three months campaigning, ensuring Sanchez will have a fight on her hands for the first time in years."*

Tran's election campaign for the House of Representatives has since been endorsed by Senator John McCain.[1]

Nonetheless, what Sanchez said was ugly.

237 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:49:14am

re: #234 Cannadian Club Akbar

Explosive eggs. Heh.

Explosive rotten eggs. You leave em in the car for a few days and they become stink bombs of horror.

238 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:49:40am

re: #235 PT Barnum

I'm guessing that more and more people will feel the same way as the full consequences of the Bush accidency become known.

This wasn't normal for my boss.

239 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:49:47am

re: #235 PT Barnum

I'm guessing that more and more people will feel the same way as the full consequences of the Bush accidency become known.

That's what Obama keeps telling us....

240 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:50:51am

re: #239 rwdflynavy

That's what Obama keeps telling us...

Along with any number of historians.

[Link: politics.usnews.com...]

241 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:53:24am

re: #240 PT Barnum

Along with any number of historians.

[Link: politics.usnews.com...]

At least they waited to give him this ranking. The Nobel people sure didn't. Can we wait until he gets a full term in? This is crap. No offense to you, PT.

242 Taqyia2Me  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:54:08am

re: #218 Taqyia2Me

Dubya deserves FAR more credit for his admin's anti-Aids funding than that...

243 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:55:53am

re: #241 Cannadian Club Akbar

At least they waited to give him this ranking. The Nobel people sure didn't. Can we wait until he gets a full term in? This is crap. No offense to you, PT.

It must also be noted that the POTUS is not the sole governance of the country. The legislative branch has a great deal of effect on things as well. And neither of them have as much effect on the economy as they'd like us to believe.

244 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:56:24am

re: #241 Cannadian Club Akbar

At least they waited to give him this ranking. The Nobel people sure didn't. Can we wait until he gets a full term in? This is crap. No offense to you, PT.

I thought the Nobel prize thing was ludicrous and I am a supporter. But on the other hand, after 8 years of teh stoopid, it was probably given out of relief as much as for anything he'd actually done.

Look, the rest of the world couldn't figure out why we voted numbnuts into office not just once, but twice. Given the choice of Obama or Grampy McGramps and Caribou Barbie the Nobel was as much for the
American voter for not making the same mistake more than twice.

245 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:57:11am

re: #244 PT Barnum

No, we'll make completely different mistakes instead. /but only slightly

246 filetandrelease  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:57:40am

re: #240 PT Barnum

Along with any number of historians.

[Link: politics.usnews.com...]


That is funny shit there.

247 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:57:43am

re: #220 lawhawk

Another day, and another poll in NY for the race between Paladino and Cuomo.

Democrats can breathe a sigh of relief as the Siena College poll tracks the Rassmussen poll, finding Cuomo comfortably in the lead 57% to 24%. That suggests that yesterday's touted Quinnipiac College poll was an outlier when it claimed that there was a six point spread (nearly within the 3.5+/- MOE).

I don't think that Paladino stands much of a chance, even taking Quinnipiac at face value. It will turn on GOTV and getting Democrats to go vote while GOPers/TP are very energized at this point.

Heard Paladino on NPR's Talk of the Nation yesterday. He is an angry, angry man. The way both he and Cuomo throw the shit (I'm assuming Andy has a bit of his old man in him), that is going to be one entertaining election. Hope there is a debate.

248 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 7:57:44am

re: #244 PT Barnum

The Nobel peeps gave it to the President for his vision. Crap.

249 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:00:18am

re: #248 Cannadian Club Akbar

The Nobel peeps gave it to the President for his vision. Crap.

I wouldn't have, but it was their prize to give. Given that Obama was as surprised as anyone and that he was probably thinking "oh shit, what am I gonna do with this?" at the time, I don't think it's any reflection on Obama. Although Jimmy Carter has to have been really pissed.

250 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:00:42am

re: #249 PT Barnum

I wouldn't have, but it was their prize to give. Given that Obama was as surprised as anyone and that he was probably thinking "oh shit, what am I gonna do with this?" at the time, I don't think it's any reflection on Obama. Although Jimmy Carter has to have been really pissed.

Jimmy Carter, the Susan Lucci of the Nobel Peace prize.

251 darthstar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:00:54am

re: #248 Cannadian Club Akbar

The Nobel peeps gave it to the President for his vision. Crap.

His vision and his message, and he has said he will continue to work to deserve the honor. Why can't you just accept this as a positive thing? People (especially teabaggers) act like Obama's winning the Nobel was some kind of terrorist attack on our country.

252 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:01:28am

re: #251 darthstar

His vision and his message, and he has said he will continue to work to deserve the honor. Why can't you just accept this as a positive thing? People (especially teabaggers) act like Obama's winning the Nobel was some kind of terrorist attack on our country.

That's cause he's uppity

//

253 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:01:29am

re: #250 PT Barnum

Jimmy Carter, the Susan Lucci of the Nobel Peace prize.

Heh. At least the President gave away the money won to charity.

254 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:02:18am

re: #251 darthstar

His vision and his message, and he has said he will continue to work to deserve the honor. Why can't you just accept this as a positive thing? People (especially teabaggers) act like Obama's winning the Nobel was some kind of terrorist attack on our country.

He didn't do anything!! Geez. Nothing to do with the TPers.

255 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:03:06am

I just want to take this moment to thank everyone for my 2000 positive karma, and all the little people who made it possible.

//

as long as we're doing acceptance stuff.

256 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:03:18am

re: #254 Cannadian Club Akbar

He didn't do anything!! Geez. Nothing to do with the TPers.

Matter of fact, there were no TPers when he won!!!

257 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:03:21am

re: #242 Taqyia2Me

Dubya deserves FAR more credit for his admin's anti-Aids funding than that...

He does. And his stance on sane immigration policy and American muslim relations.

Still, Bush is not running in 2010. Look who is. What are

their

stances on Aids Funding? Angle? Miller? O'Donnell? I'm sure there is a few who would support it - Portman maybe. But let's face it, the current trend in the GOP is not towards the world outlook of Bush, it's towards the world outlook of Rush.

258 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:04:00am

re: #254 Cannadian Club Akbar

He didn't do anything!! Geez. Nothing to do with the TPers.

I think I'd feel differently about it if he'd actually campaigned for the prize, but I don't even think he knew he was nominated.

259 darthstar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:04:03am

re: #254 Cannadian Club Akbar

He didn't do anything!! Geez. Nothing to do with the TPers.

He acknowledged that himself....and he did it without exclamation marks.

Fuck...it's 8am already...gotta go to work. Sucks having a consultant on site...no home office days all week.

260 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:04:09am

re: #255 PT Barnum

You're over 6000.

261 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:05:31am

re: #260 Cannadian Club Akbar

You're over 6000.

I was speaking of karma-posts.

262 darthstar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:06:01am

re: #256 Cannadian Club Akbar

Matter of fact, there were no TPers when he won!!!

Yes, there were...they just didn't have a name yet...but they were all saying the same teabagging message...he's a muslim, he's not American, he's Hitler...the Tea Party didn't get a name until the summer of 2009 when the DETHPANILS bullshit started.

263 Lidane  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:06:17am

Lovely. I had a Marketing case study due before class started and I just e-mailed it 15 minutes after class started, while the prof is talking.

*sigh*

I hope this isn't a harbinger for the rest of my day. =P

264 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:06:40am

re: #251 darthstar

His vision and his message, and he has said he will continue to work to deserve the honor. Why can't you just accept this as a positive thing? People (especially teabaggers) act like Obama's winning the Nobel was some kind of terrorist attack on our country.

It was. The sekrit Norwegian Moose-lim committee promoted one of their own sleeper agents so that America would be lulled into a state of defenselessness. Then when we woke up one morning to find ourselves under Commie Sharia law and subject to oppressive federal fatwa it would then be our own fault for trusting a Kenyan plant...

//

265 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:06:57am

re: #262 darthstar

A month in? Guess I didn't get the memo.

266 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:07:40am

re: #262 darthstar

Yes, there were...they just didn't have a name yet...but they were all saying the same teabagging message...he's a muslim, he's not American, he's Hitler...the Tea Party didn't get a name until the summer of 2009 when the DETHPANILS bullshit started.

Sure there were, they've been around for a long time...my high school principal's house was proof...oh wait, that's not what we're talking about.

267 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:08:22am

re: #264 oaktree

It was. The sekrit Norwegian Moose-lim committee promoted one of their own sleeper agents so that America would be lulled into a state of defenselessness. Then when we woke up one morning to find ourselves under Commie Sharia law and subject to oppressive federal fatwa it would then be our own fault for trusting a Kenyan plant...

//

I updinged that for sheer creativity.

268 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:09:26am

re: #262 darthstar

Yes, there were...they just didn't have a name yet...but they were all saying the same teabagging message...he's a muslim, he's not American, he's Hitler...the Tea Party didn't get a name until the summer of 2009 when the DETHPANILS bullshit started.

Actually they were around during the entire election. Only then we called them ignorant dumbfucks.

269 darthstar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:09:43am

re: #265 Cannadian Club Akbar

A month in? Guess I didn't get the memo.

He was nominated a month in office...he didn't get the award for a few months after that, and yes, by the time he got it people were claiming it was a violation of the constitution.

I'm not saying you were a teabagger, by the way...I don't know you that well.

okay, gotta get dressed for work...

270 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:09:46am

re: #265 Cannadian Club Akbar

A month in? Guess I didn't get the memo.

Tea Party Timeline

271 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:11:53am

re: #270 Jeff In Ohio

Tea Party Timeline

2009

Feb. 27: The tea party, a loosely organized group advocating smaller government, holds its first rally in Lansing, followed by a larger gathering attracting about 4,000 people two months later that featured Joe the Plumber (Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher, the Ohio native made famous during campaign 2008).


Read more: Tea Party time line | freep.com | Detroit Free Press [Link: www.freep.com...]

When was the inauguration?

272 What, me worry?  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:12:33am

re: #270 Jeff In Ohio

Tea Party Timeline

Ahh... Joe the Plumber. You suppose he's back to plumbing?

273 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:12:57am

I gotta go cheer myself up..

274 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:13:33am

re: #269 darthstar

He was nominated a month in office...he didn't get the award for a few months after that, and yes, by the time he got it people were claiming it was a violation of the constitution.

I'm not saying you were a teabagger, by the way...I don't know you that well.

okay, gotta get dressed for work...

We spoon and this is all I get!!
///

275 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:14:26am

re: #271 Cannadian Club Akbar

2009

Feb. 27: The tea party, a loosely organized group advocating smaller government, holds its first rally in Lansing, followed by a larger gathering attracting about 4,000 people two months later that featured Joe the Plumber (Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher, the Ohio native made famous during campaign 2008).

Read more: Tea Party time line | freep.com | Detroit Free Press [Link: www.freep.com...]

When was the inauguration?

Jan 20, 2009

276 What, me worry?  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:14:57am

re: #273 PT Barnum

LOL Now that's some funny stuff right there.

277 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:15:23am

re: #275 Jeff In Ohio

Jan 20, 2009

That was what I thought. Thanks.

278 Ericus58  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:15:23am

re: #274 Cannadian Club Akbar

We spoon and this is all I get!!
///

Bwhahaha - that was spewtastic

279 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:15:40am

re: #272 marjoriemoon

Ahh... Joe the Plumber. You suppose he's back to plumbing?

Naw, he's out defending his friends from a tax increase.

280 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:16:28am

re: #279 Jeff In Ohio

Naw, he's out defending his friends from a tax increase.

14:59.

281 Taqyia2Me  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:18:04am

re: #257 Jeff In Ohio

He does. And his stance on sane immigration policy and American muslim relations.

Still, Bush is not running in 2010. Look who is. What are

stances on Aids Funding? Angle? Miller? O'Donnell? I'm sure there is a few who would support it - Portman maybe. But let's face it, the current trend in the GOP is not towards the world outlook of Bush, it's towards the world outlook of Rush.

Don't go scaring me like that so early in the morning! :-)

282 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:18:24am

re: #280 Cannadian Club Akbar

14:59.

Ding for an excellent reference and tie in!

283 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:19:11am

I'll be back. My day off. Need a nap.:)

284 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:21:42am

re: #276 marjoriemoon

LOL Now that's some funny stuff right there.

Love Davinci's Notebook.

285 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:28:25am

goin' galt...later gaters

286 deranged cat  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:29:21am

Jon Stewart and Bill O'Reilly
[Link: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

287 webevintage  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:35:20am

re: #214 Cannadian Club Akbar

Addressing an activist pushing for more funding for global AIDS initiatives, the president said, "We heard your point. And as I said before, we increased AIDS funding. ... The people who will take over if we don't focus on the election, I promise you, will cut AIDS funding."

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Uh, which President funded AIDS reseach more than any other, Mr. President?
FAIL.

That would be George Bush EXCEPT HE IS NOT RUNNING for Congress.
The folks who are running for Congress will cut aids funding so actually you get the big fail.

288 Lidane  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:42:05am
289 webevintage  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:47:24am

Feeling ranty this morning.
First I read the bullshit Angle said and wonder if this horrid person will get elected.

Then I see that the Dems are thinking about not taking advantage of some good old fashioned class warfare right before an election because I guess they are morons and want to see their numbers dwindle.

Then I see that the Republicans have issued another "Contract on America" spewing about getting rid of all the health care reforms passed and replacing them with health care reforms that are actually just like the health care reforms they are getting rid of but with no way to pay for them.
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

The R's also let us know that they took their ideas from "Real Americans" who let them know what they wanted on the R's "America Speaking Out" website EXCEPT the R's decided to not listen to the top two items "Real Americans" want to see happen.
1. Legalize Pot
and
2. Get rid of tax breaks for corporations who take jobs overseas.
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

290 Interesting Times  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:57:08am

re: #289 webevintage

Then I see that the Dems are thinking about not taking advantage of some good old fashioned class warfare right before an election because I guess they are morons and want to see their numbers dwindle they've been promised cushy lobbying jobs in the private sector after getting voted out.

Fixed. Welcome to America, Inc.

291 Gus  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 9:02:22am
292 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 9:07:46am

re: #247 Jeff In Ohio

Andrew Cuomo used to run Mario's campaigns. He knows how to slug it out if necessary. I'm figuring that he'll try to let the state Democratic party and others do the serious mudslinging, while he tries to run an upbeat positive campaign. That said, he released a new ad where he pretty much calls Paladino an insider who's gotten all manner of tax breaks with no actual benefit to the state (creating 1 job for millions in tax breaks).

293 BishopX  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 9:09:52am

re: #289 webevintage

Progressive class warfare is difficult in American because everyone is middle class. Any household making 30,000 to 250,00 dollars per year is part of the "middle" class. And some people extend that up to 500,000 dollars per year. For those of you keeping track at home that means everything from the 35th percentile to the 95th percentile is "middle class". This makes class warfare a little difficult.

294 garhighway  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 9:11:39am

re: #293 BishopX

Progressive class warfare is difficult in American because everyone is middle class. Any household making 30,000 to 250,00 dollars per year is part of the "middle" class. And some people extend that up to 500,000 dollars per year. For those of you keeping track at home that means everything from the 35th percentile to the 95th percentile is "middle class". This makes class warfare a little difficult.

It's like Lake Woebegone, where all the children are above average.

295 Varek Raith  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 9:11:42am

$532.
Lol.
;)

296 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 9:11:49am

re: #293 BishopX

Progressive class warfare is difficult in American because everyone is middle class. Any household making 30,000 to 250,00 dollars per year is part of the "middle" class. And some people extend that up to 500,000 dollars per year. For those of you keeping track at home that means everything from the 35th percentile to the 95th percentile is "middle class". This makes class warfare a little difficult.

Don't worry, Obama is trying to change that as soon as possible.

297 Gus  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 9:12:24am

re: #294 garhighway

It's like Lake Woebegone, where all the children are above average.

Where the women are strong and the men are good looking.

298 Gus  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 9:13:06am

re: #293 BishopX

Progressive class warfare is difficult in American because everyone is middle class. Any household making 30,000 to 250,00 dollars per year is part of the "middle" class. And some people extend that up to 500,000 dollars per year. For those of you keeping track at home that means everything from the 35th percentile to the 95th percentile is "middle class". This makes class warfare a little difficult.

The widening of the income gap is good for America! It provides jobs!

/

299 webevintage  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 9:13:40am

re: #295 Varek Raith

$532.
Lol.
;)

my heart...it bleeds...

300 BishopX  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 9:13:48am

re: #296 Walter L. Newton

I'd honestly like to see the terms change. America would take a big step toward solving a whole bunch of problems is it admitted that the middle class started at 60,00 and ended at 150,000...

301 jaunte  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 9:16:31am

re: #295 Varek Raith

$532.
Lol.
;)

Just for clarity, if anyone missed it: repost from last night, an interesting tidbit from Business Week and the IRS:


$532 Tax Bill
...
Separately, IRS data shows 80 percent of those facing higher taxes under Obama earn between $200,000 and $500,000. An analysis by the congressional Joint Committee on Taxation in August concluded their taxes would increase on average by $532 a year.[Link: www.businessweek.com...]
302 Varek Raith  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 9:24:24am

re: #301 jaunte

Just for clarity, if anyone missed it: repost from last night, an interesting tidbit from Business Week and the IRS:

*Giggles*

303 KingKenrod  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 9:24:59am

re: #301 jaunte

Just for clarity, if anyone missed it: repost from last night, an interesting tidbit from Business Week and the IRS:

The $532 number can't possibly be right. How do you raise $700 Billion over 10 years getting only an extra $532 from a few million people per year?

[Link: money.cnn.com...]

Three economists surveyed endorsed the Obama administration's plan to extend the tax cuts only for the lower- and middle-income taxpayers, but allow it to go up on those in the top two brackets -- individuals making more than $200,000 a year or couples earning $250,000 or more. That limited increase in taxes would raise an estimated $700 billion over the next 10 years.

304 BishopX  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 9:29:55am

re: #303 KingKenrod

It's $532 per household between 200,000 and 800,000 dollars per year. I'm going to guess it's a great deal more for people making 40 million a year.

305 garhighway  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 9:30:38am

re: #304 BishopX

It's $532 per household between 200,000 and 800,000 dollars per year. I'm going to guess it's a great deal more for people making 40 million a year.

That sounds like a pretty good hunch to me.

306 jaunte  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 9:34:45am

re: #303 KingKenrod

That's the reported IRS calculation for the average tax increase for that income range; I don't know how it would translate into raising $700 Billion over 10 years.

307 garhighway  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 9:37:51am

re: #306 jaunte

That's the reported IRS calculation for the average tax increase for that income range; I don't know how it would translate into raising $700 Billion over 10 years.

It wouldn't. To get to the $700B you need to add in the increase in taxes on those who make more than $800K, don't you? And is it not reasonable to assume that the average increase on that group, who make from $800K to infinity, might account for some serious coin?

308 KingKenrod  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 9:43:12am

re: #304 BishopX

It's $532 per household between 200,000 and 800,000 dollars per year. I'm going to guess it's a great deal more for people making 40 million a year.

OK, I see that as part of the problem. But the $532 is just a bracketing trick.

People making $200,000 will essentially be paying no extra taxes a year while those paying $500,000 will be paying many thousands. Because there are many more people making near $200,000 than those making near $500,000, the entire range gets dragged way down.

More details about higher earners here.

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

Those making between $500,000 and one million will pay about $10,000 more per year while those over one million will pay around $100,000 more.

309 jaunte  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 10:08:12am

re: #307 garhighway

It wouldn't. To get to the $700B you need to add in the increase in taxes on those who make more than $800K, don't you? And is it not reasonable to assume that the average increase on that group, who make from $800K to infinity, might account for some serious coin?

That is reasonable; my point in posting the Business Week $532 average increase was that I think there is some more elasticity in our ability to pay taxes than some of the outrage over the tax-cuts phaseout suggests.

Looking at the Forbes 'Tax Misery & Reform' index indicates that the relationship in some countries (look at Germany, for example) between taxation and a vigorous economy is also more complex than a simple 'low taxes = good business.'
[Link: www.forbes.com...]

310 ClaudeMonet  Thu, Sep 23, 2010 10:45:50pm

re: #38 austin_blue

You can get Mexican Coca-Cola here in Austin. Also Dublin, Texas, Dr. Pepper. Both are made with real sugar. The difference is profound.

Up here, they make and market "Pepsi Throwback", "Mountain Dew Throwback", etc. I've been drinking the Pepsi and don't really taste a difference, but when given a choice, I'll take it over the "high fructose corn syrup" that I know is polluting my body even worse than the drink with sugar.

My fellow gringos think it's cute and don't realize that it's really aimed at our growing Hispanic community.


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