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darthstar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:31:37pm |
"living within our means"...thank you, Jerry...let's hear Meg say that...for that matter, let's hear her say "I love California" or "I love the California University program"...she won't, because she can't.
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darthstar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:32:24pm |
People at UC aren't children, Meg...they're adults. Nice job insulting young voters.
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freetoken Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:32:26pm |
Jerry is going to own this, but I doubt there are many left who are truly undecided.
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Stanghazi Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:34:14pm |
How best to make the campuses great?
PAY SARAH PALIN 100K with no press!!
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theheat Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:34:40pm |
Not a fan of Meg. My little inner voice says turn tail and run. As bad as Jerry may be, he isn't Meg, and doesn't give me that panicky feeling I've just been duped by a liar in sheep's clothing. I like my liars bold-faced. They're more transparent.
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freetoken Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:34:54pm |
One thing about the questioning panel - they were not put there by Fox News.
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Political Atheist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:35:08pm |
Can or will Jerry carry his hard core fiscal conservatives promises through the legislature?
I really doubt he can. They are fighting over the opportunity to go down just like Arnie. Rollover then fade away.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:36:00pm |
re: #5 theheat
Not a fan of Meg. My little inner voice says turn tail and run. As bad as Jerry may be, he isn't Meg, and doesn't give me that panicky feeling I've just been duped by a liar in sheep's clothing. I like my liars bold-faced. They're more transparent.
Now, it was Fiorina's ad that put sheep into your head...
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:36:04pm |
re: #7 Rightwingconspirator
Can or will Jerry carry his hard core fiscal conservatives promises through the legislature?
I really doubt he can. They are fighting over the opportunity to go down just like Arnie. Rollover then fade away.
Which would also be true with Whitman.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:36:31pm |
re: #7 Rightwingconspirator
Can or will Jerry carry his hard core fiscal conservatives promises through the legislature?
I really doubt he can. They are fighting over the opportunity to go down just like Arnie. Rollover then fade away.
Nah, Whitman would at least go down swinging. And her willingness to fight it out would at least give her a chance.
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darthstar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:36:40pm |
Mr Brown, you had an ad depicting your opponent with Pinnochio's nose...
"Yes."
Ha!
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theheat Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:37:38pm |
re: #9 SanFranciscoZionist
It's her face. Her pudgy, rosy, goodly, Republican face, as it talks about welfare and unions. I know where this is going. Nuh-uh. Not gonna get sucked into it by her. She's bad news.
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Political Atheist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:37:44pm |
re: #10 Gus 802
Which would also be true with Whitman.
More so damn it. The solution is not in the executive branch. This fight is more deservedly in the other branch.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:39:02pm |
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:39:03pm |
just once i would love someone to say
"it ain't the schools,it ain't the teachers'it's your rotton kids!"
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darthstar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:39:13pm |
re: #17 Rightwingconspirator
13. Here we go...
It was a great answer. Yes, he approved the ad. Let's talk about something of concern to the people of California.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:39:51pm |
re: #18 brookly red
"living within our means"...
I would like every politician to say that.
"Their means" are a lot different than "our means"
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:39:56pm |
re: #15 theheat
It's her face. Her pudgy, rosy, goodly, Republican face, as it talks about welfare and unions. I know where this is going. Nuh-uh. Not gonna get sucked into it by her. She's bad news.
So, you're telling me if she was skinny and sallow and slightly wicked looking, you'd be more in the mood?
//
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:40:10pm |
re: #7 Rightwingconspirator
Can or will Jerry carry his hard core fiscal conservatives promises through the legislature?
I really doubt he can. They are fighting over the opportunity to go down just like Arnie. Rollover then fade away.
I don't think any Governor can win against the entrenched unions.
This state is very badly broken. The power needs to move out of Sacramento.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:40:34pm |
re: #19 Boondock St. Bender
just once i would love someone to say
"it ain't the schools,it ain't the teachers'it's your rotton kids!"
Coffee
Monitor
not a good combo
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:40:34pm |
I am going to allow the Californians to figure this one out.
They want Jerry back? Their prerogative.
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darthstar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:41:05pm |
Yes, I support a path to legalization. No shame, just his stance.
Meg will try to attack with fear on immigration. Brown is saying it's here, and we need to work with it.
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:41:31pm |
re: #22 SanFranciscoZionist
hmmmm would this hypothetical woman have any tatoos?
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:41:34pm |
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sattv4u2 Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:41:38pm |
re: #25 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I am going to allow the Californians to figure this one out.
They want Jerry back? Their prerogative.
Easy for you to say, 3,000 miles away
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Political Atheist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:41:47pm |
re: #23 Floral Giraffe
I don't think any Governor can win against the entrenched unions.
This state is very badly broken. The power needs to move out of Sacramento.
Indeed.
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theheat Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:41:55pm |
re: #22 SanFranciscoZionist
Nope. She'd still give me that creepy vibe. As is, she's simply a victim of being a physical stereotype of the type of politician I find revolting. She's pegging my meter.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:43:08pm |
re: #22 SanFranciscoZionist
So, you're telling me if she was skinny and sallow and slightly wicked looking, you'd be more in the mood?
//
Nancy already has a job...
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:43:34pm |
re: #27 Boondock St. Bender
hmmm would this hypothetical woman have any tatoos?
I'm envisioning a rose and a dagger somewhere sexy.
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freetoken Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:43:57pm |
re: #25 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
They want Jerry back? Their prerogative.
I think we do want him back. He's better than the other choices, and frankly the governors since him haven't been much to write home about.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:44:13pm |
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Charles Johnson Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:44:28pm |
Meg Whitman wants to fund immigration enforcement by penalizing companies that hire undocumented workers.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:44:41pm |
re: #19 Boondock St. Bender
just once i would love someone to say
"it ain't the schools,it ain't the teachers'it's your rotton kids!"
The politico who said that would lose 80-20.
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Political Atheist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:44:41pm |
re: #40 darthstar
Eliminate San Francisco! WTF?
The "sanctuary city" part. Meg's not gonna bomb SF.
LOL. Only with campaign ads.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:44:46pm |
re: #39 Stanley Sea
I didn't know SF was a "sanctuary city" ???
You didn't? We made national news with that this last couple of years.
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freetoken Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:44:47pm |
re: #40 darthstar
Eliminate San Francisco! WTF?
Yup. Zombies are allowed to roam free and garlic necklaces are outlawed on the street.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:44:50pm |
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pharmmajor Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:44:51pm |
Pity they didn't invite Dale Ogden to participate in the debate. The people need to know they have other options than the Dems and the GOP:
[Link: www.daleogden.org...]
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Kragar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:44:57pm |
re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm envisioning a rose and a dagger somewhere sexy.
Or a tramp stamp that says "Hi, my name is..."
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:45:00pm |
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:45:15pm |
She sounds like she's using a teleprompter.
You know what else? She's very Sarah Palinish.
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darthstar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:45:29pm |
re: #46 Charles
Meg Whitman wants to fund immigration enforcement by penalizing companies that hire undocumented workers.
No she doesn't...she's just saying that because she knows if she says we need to deport them all it won't go over well with voters.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:46:00pm |
re: #56 Gus 802
She sounds like she's using a teleprompter.
You know what else? She's very Sarah Palinish.
No. She sounds a LOT better than Palin. She may not be my cup of tea, but she's not ridiculous.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:46:04pm |
re: #39 Stanley Sea
I didn't know SF was a "sanctuary city" ???
LA is one too.
It's like Don't Ask, Don't Tell, in the Military.
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theheat Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:46:15pm |
re: #46 Charles
This is the woman who fantasizes about taking a ruler to the backs of people's hands. She freakin' screams it. It's there, all over her. She's that person.
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Political Atheist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:46:43pm |
re: #46 Charles
Really penalizing employers of undocumented aliens is how we enforce the law and crack the special interests like those who exploit them. Piecework, excessive hours, the works. I really hate the GOP propensity to back employers of people who do not have their work visas.
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:46:55pm |
re: #59 SanFranciscoZionist
No. She sounds a LOT better than Palin. She may not be my cup of tea, but she's not ridiculous.
That's why tacked on "ish." The sound bites remind me of her.
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Locker Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:46:57pm |
No idea why everyone hates Unions and uses them as scape goats for every problem under the sun. I hate to tell you this but as a state worker I've been denied my cost of living increase for 11 years in a row, we've had our benefits cut, furloughed for almost 2 years and are currently fighting off a 10 percent pay cut.
All this while outsourced projects failed left and right wasting millions of tax payer dollars on jobs that state workers could do themselves. Personally as a regular middle class guy I am extremely thankful that SEIU 1000 is out there fighting to at least stem the tide.
Every single time we sign a contract we have to give up something else. I don't know where you people get your ideas about Unions but ours is focused on one thing, protecting our jobs.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:46:58pm |
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:47:27pm |
re: #61 theheat
This is the woman who fantasizes about taking a ruler to the backs of people's hands. She freakin' screams it. It's there, all over her. She's that person.
your just scared cause you didn't do your home work :)
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:47:52pm |
Brown got SO LUCKY with the city of Bell pay scandals.
And, he's made the most of it!
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:48:44pm |
re: #64 Locker
No idea why everyone hates Unions and uses them as scape goats for every problem under the sun. I hate to tell you this but as a state worker I've been denied my cost of living increase for 11 years in a row, we've had our benefits cut, furloughed for almost 2 years and are currently fighting off a 10 percent pay cut.
All this while outsourced projects failed left and right wasting millions of tax payer dollars on jobs that state workers could do themselves. Personally as a regular middle class guy I am extremely thankful that SEIU 1000 is out there fighting to at least stem the tide.
Every single time we sign a contract we have to give up something else. I don't know where you people get your ideas about Unions but ours is focused on one thing, protecting our jobs.
well not to be snarky but it sounds like you should get a refund on your dues...
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theheat Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:48:52pm |
re: #66 brookly red
This is a control freak wearing a friendly matronly suit (and a bad haircut). Under that thin veneer, she's seething. Two words: RUN AWAY.
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:48:58pm |
re: #67 Stanley Sea
Me too. Same.
Sounds naive. Brown seems more realistic. He's actually been there. She's just been the CEO (for the most part) of EBay which basically made its way to the top by luck for the most part.
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:49:57pm |
re: #64 Locker
a mix of jealousy and stereotyping.
are there bad unions out there?same as there are bad managers,and corporations.
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Stanghazi Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:50:18pm |
Such a rehearsed stupid sound bite.
Putting Count Dracula in charge of the bloodbank?
Sorry, my vote is decided. I'm gonna snark.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:50:40pm |
re: #64 Locker
No idea why everyone hates Unions and uses them as scape goats for every problem under the sun. I hate to tell you this but as a state worker I've been denied my cost of living increase for 11 years in a row, we've had our benefits cut, furloughed for almost 2 years and are currently fighting off a 10 percent pay cut.
All this while outsourced projects failed left and right wasting millions of tax payer dollars on jobs that state workers could do themselves. Personally as a regular middle class guy I am extremely thankful that SEIU 1000 is out there fighting to at least stem the tide.
Every single time we sign a contract we have to give up something else. I don't know where you people get your ideas about Unions but ours is focused on one thing, protecting our jobs.
Louisiana gov't employees are not unionized, but the Civil Service protection is very strong and there hasn't been need for a union.
But your point about outsourced jobs through contracts is spot on - whenever a state wants to cut costs, it's the state employees who get stuck, when what the pols need to be looking at is the frikken' contracts.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:50:48pm |
re: #68 Floral Giraffe
Brown got SO LUCKY with the city of Bell pay scandals.
And, he's made the most of it!
Jerry Brown is an honest man, that much is true.
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:51:09pm |
So where's the magical unicorn that Whitman's going to use to get rid of the unions?
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:51:29pm |
re: #70 theheat
This is a control freak wearing a friendly matronly suit (and a bad haircut). Under that thin veneer, she's seething. Two words: RUN AWAY.
I am in NYC, can't run much farther...
well I guess Long Island but yick...
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:52:02pm |
re: #75 Stanley Sea
Such a rehearsed stupid sound bite.
Putting Count Dracula in charge of the bloodbank?
Sorry, my vote is decided. I'm gonna snark.
Rehearsed but true. The unions are bleeding that state dry.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:52:12pm |
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:52:41pm |
re: #79 Gus 802
So where's the magical unicorn that Whitman's going to use to get rid of the unions?
Like all the other unicorns its still in the tank for Obama. :D
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:52:41pm |
re: #80 brookly red
you say that now,but what do you do when you want to go to the shore?
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Locker Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:52:57pm |
re: #69 brookly red
well not to be snarky but it sounds like you should get a refund on your dues...
It may sound that way but if, for a minute, you imagine how bad it would be if all the attacks on us succeeded it would resemble the following image:
A programmer making 10 dollars an hour with no benefits, no retirement, no pension and no health care working 5 days a week and being paid for 3.
I am not just a fair share union contributor, I'm a full member and pay extra gladly. I'll say it again, I'm extremely thankful for SEIU 1000.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:53:35pm |
Pretty good questions so far.
Water, immigration, the budget!
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:53:47pm |
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Charles Johnson Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:53:59pm |
I'm more impressed with Jerry Brown than I thought I'd be.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:54:27pm |
re: #63 Gus 802
That's why tacked on "ish." The sound bites remind me of her.
Nah, not really hearing it. She's a bit sound-bitish, but she understands what she's saying.
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Political Atheist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:54:43pm |
Okay so who thinks this debate changed the race more than a millimeter or two?
Not me. This changed few if any minds. Barely effects even the undecided.
Darthstar-What say you?
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freetoken Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:54:43pm |
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:55:07pm |
re: #90 SanFranciscoZionist
Nah, not really hearing it. She's a bit sound-bitish, but she understands what she's saying.
OK
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Political Atheist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:55:26pm |
re: #89 Charles
I'm more impressed with Jerry Brown than I thought I'd be.
He has honesty and experience going for him. That's his win. Those things together.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:55:43pm |
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darthstar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:56:03pm |
re: #89 Charles
I'm more impressed with Jerry Brown than I thought I'd be.
He's earnest and believes in what he's doing. Meg's trying to sell us on her charm, of which she has none.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:56:10pm |
re: #85 Boondock St. Bender
you say that now,but what do you do when you want to go to the shore?
eww you mean with sand & stuff?
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sattv4u2 Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:56:22pm |
And on that note, the long quiet ride home awaits
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:56:49pm |
re: #86 Locker
It may sound that way but if, for a minute, you imagine how bad it would be if all the attacks on us succeeded it would resemble the following image:
A programmer making 10 dollars an hour with no benefits, no retirement, no pension and no health care working 5 days a week and being paid for 3.
I am not just a fair share union contributor, I'm a full member and pay extra gladly. I'll say it again, I'm extremely thankful for SEIU 1000.
Unlikely. There are wage laws that prevent employers from stiffing their employees. Those laws would still be there. But the SEIU has become serious problem. As it is a private sector union, it clearly should exist. But it needs sound reform and to have its influence cut back.
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:56:55pm |
re: #97 brookly red
we have nothing further to talk about
/
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Political Atheist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:57:02pm |
re: #79 Gus 802
So where's the magical unicorn that Whitman's going to use to get rid of the unions?
That is why she will & should not win. IMO. Just like Arnie. No chance.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:57:05pm |
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sattv4u2 Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:57:14pm |
re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist
Also Wichita. And Houston.
The thread is about California election
I thought I'd keep it to Cali cities
Yes,,many cities are "sanctuary cities"
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Locker Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:57:16pm |
re: #77 reine.de.tout
Louisiana gov't employees are not unionized, but the Civil Service protection is very strong and there hasn't been need for a union.
But your point about outsourced jobs through contracts is spot on - whenever a state wants to cut costs, it's the state employees who get stuck, when what the pols need to be looking at is the frikken' contracts.
Please believe. Here is a headline, front page of the Sacramento Bee:
[Link: www.sacbee.com...]
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:57:46pm |
re: #91 Rightwingconspirator
I'm undecided. It moved my vote more towards Jerry.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:57:50pm |
re: #86 Locker
It may sound that way but if, for a minute, you imagine how bad it would be if all the attacks on us succeeded it would resemble the following image:
A programmer making 10 dollars an hour with no benefits, no retirement, no pension and no health care working 5 days a week and being paid for 3.
I am not just a fair share union contributor, I'm a full member and pay extra gladly. I'll say it again, I'm extremely thankful for SEIU 1000.
They can get programmers in China to work for a lot less than $10 an hour.
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darthstar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:57:58pm |
There were nine murders in my neighborhood. I didn't have a guard, I didn't have a driver. I walked the streets.
Game. Set. Match.
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Stanghazi Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:58:26pm |
re: #102 SanFranciscoZionist
Just a matter of impression, I suppose.
It was a couple of things she said that were about getting rid of those in power type of stuff. Palin/Tea but impossible.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:58:31pm |
re: #103 sattv4u2
The thread is about California election
I thought I'd keep it to Cali cities
Yes,,many cities are "sanctuary cities"
Just making sure the folks on this forum who know what's wrong with California get the full picture!!
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:58:43pm |
re: #106 Alouette
They can get programmers in China to work for a lot less than $10 an hour.
yeah and if their late you can sell their organs...
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theheat Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:58:56pm |
Jerry's a weaker closer. Meg's the kind that would shank the pretty girls in the bathroom, because she resented she had to make it on brains, and wasn't blessed with a good personality, unlike the more well-liked chubby girls in school.
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Obdicut Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:59:06pm |
re: #52 pharmmajor
[Link: en.wikinews.org...]
Dale Ogden:
There is no global warming crisis. The alleged warming trends do not exist and there has actually been a cooling trend over the last ten or so years
Why the fuck should we elect an anti-science lunatic, pray tell?
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:59:17pm |
re: #108 Stanley Sea
It was a couple of things she said that were about getting rid of those in power type of stuff. Palin/Tea but impossible.
A lot of vague generalities.
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jaunte Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:59:42pm |
re: #109 SanFranciscoZionist
People don't seem to complain much about Houston being a sanctuary city.
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:59:53pm |
re: #107 darthstar
There were nine murders in my neighborhood.hell i committed five of them!(showstopper quote!) I didn't have a guard, I didn't have a driver. I walked the streets.
Game. Set. Match.
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Locker Tue, Sep 28, 2010 6:59:54pm |
re: #104 Locker
Sorry... text...
[quote]California's ailing $34 million student database project is a year behind
California's statewide data system tracking student information was to be fully functioning by now. But CalPADS – the state's $34 million student database project – is a year behind schedule.
...
In December, an assessment by Folsom's Sabot Technologies – contracted by the state – called for an immediate shutdown of the system to fix abnormalities. It "discovered significant issues with the system and project, representing a threat to the success of CalPADS," according to the report.
It said IBM, which is being paid $13.9 million to develop CalPADS, had understaffed the project, and that the team wasn't experienced enough.[/quote]
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:00:37pm |
re: #105 Floral Giraffe
I'm undecided. It moved my vote more towards Jerry.
Well, given that lively debate (rolls eyes) I stand by my decision to not vote for either.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:00:41pm |
re: #109 SanFranciscoZionist
Just making sure the folks on this forum who know what's wrong with California get the full picture!!
I still think it's the mood watches.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:00:46pm |
re: #107 darthstar
There were nine murders in my neighborhood. I didn't have a guard, I didn't have a driver. I walked the streets.
Game. Set. Match.
"I shall fear no evil, for I am the meanest sonofabitch in the valley"...
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freetoken Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:01:01pm |
re: #52 pharmmajor
Ogden's a nut, like many libertarians and their outlets (e.g., "Reason" magazine.)
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Political Atheist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:01:44pm |
re: #112 Obdicut
[Link: en.wikinews.org...]
Dale Ogden:
Why the fuck should we elect an anti-science lunatic, pray tell?
I read that to mean the debates should include 2nd tier candidates. #rd party. Whatever. Whigs! Air it out.
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Locker Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:02:10pm |
re: #99 Dark_Falcon
Unlikely. There are wage laws that prevent employers from stiffing their employees. Those laws would still be there. But the SEIU has become serious problem. As it is a private sector union, it clearly should exist. But it needs sound reform and to have its influence cut back.
You don't say WHY it's a problem or what "influence" they have that should be cut back. Corporations can now spend unlimited amounts of money.. is it your assertion that unions have the same or even more influence?
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Political Atheist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:02:12pm |
re: #121 Rightwingconspirator
Oops. 3rd party.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:02:42pm |
re: #104 Locker
Please believe. Here is a headline, front page of the Sacramento Bee:
[Link: www.sacbee.com...]
Please believe what? I agreed with you. And here, from that article:
It said IBM, which is being paid $13.9 million to develop CalPADS, had understaffed the project, and that the team wasn't experienced enough
.
Plus, apparently, the Dept of Ed has little or no oversight.
sheesh.
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:02:53pm |
re: #120 freetoken
Ogden's a nut, like many libertarians and their outlets (e.g., "Reason" magazine.)
The problem with this country is that traffic signals are not timed correctly!
//Typical Libertarian candidate. They always have one weird, obscure, agenda.
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Obdicut Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:03:13pm |
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webevintage Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:03:23pm |
re: #120 freetoken
Ogden's a nut, like many libertarians and their outlets (e.g., "Reason" magazine.)
No, you must be mistaken...Reason is the most awesome magazine EVAH!
/
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:03:33pm |
re: #124 reine.de.tout
Please believe what? I agreed with you. And here, from that article:
.
Plus, apparently, the Dept of Ed has little or no oversight.
sheesh.
Oh, they knew they'd be paid... without regard to results.
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Political Atheist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:04:13pm |
re: #107 darthstar
So that is how a mayor dodges a failure to end that level of violence in a city. Nice in a chess game sort of way.
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freetoken Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:04:59pm |
re: #125 Gus 802
I liked libertarians more back in the late 70's and early 80's, when the college libertarians were known for pushing the idea of the "L5 Society" move into outer space.
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:05:48pm |
re: #120 freetoken
Ogden's a nut, like many libertarians and their outlets (e.g., "Reason" magazine.)
Ogden's Nut Gone Flake.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:05:53pm |
re: #109 SanFranciscoZionist
Just making sure the folks on this forum who know what's wrong with California get the full picture!!
Just be happy you're not called (or portrayed as being) drooling, slack-jawed, uneducated idiots.
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prairiefire Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:06:18pm |
If there were 9 murders in my neighborhood I would absolutely freak out.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:06:24pm |
re: #117 Mr Pancakes
Well, given that lively debate (rolls eyes) I stand by my decision to not vote for either.
If you don't vote, you don't get to criticize later.....
Please, reconsider & vote!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:06:25pm |
re: #132 reine.de.tout
Just ding ding ding ding ding.
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Political Atheist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:06:36pm |
re: #126 Obdicut
But if they are not in the debates we further entrench the GOP and Democratic party. Not really faithful to democracy. Why squelch real change? 3rd party candidates are often not loons at all. Except lately I must admit.
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:06:42pm |
re: #133 prairiefire
If there were 9 murders in my neighborhood I would absolutely freak out.
Shaaaa...... that was last weekend.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:07:06pm |
re: #132 reine.de.tout
Just be happy you're not called (or portrayed as being) drooling, slack-jawed, uneducated idiots.
racist... you forgot racist.
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Turu The Terrible Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:07:08pm |
Everything old is new again...I remember when this was an underground hit...
I am Governor Jerry Brown
My aura smiles and never frowns
Soon I will be President
Carter power will soon go 'way
I will be Führer someday
I will control all of you
Your kids will meditate in school
California über alles!
California über alles!
Zen Fascists will control you
100% natural
You will jog for the Master Race
And always wear the Happy Face
Close your eyes can't happen here
Your Big Bro on white horse is near
The hippies won't come back you say
Mellow out or you will pay!
Mellow out of you will pay!
California über alles!
California über alles!
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theheat Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:07:09pm |
re: #135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hey, you don't even wear pants!
//
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:07:21pm |
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:07:31pm |
re: #134 Floral Giraffe
If you don't vote, you don't get to criticize later...
Please, reconsider & vote!
I don't like either one of them........ I promise not to complain..... ok?
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:07:38pm |
re: #133 prairiefire
If there were 9 murders in my neighborhood I would absolutely freak out.
I'd be on the phone to the mayor. And then I'd start saving up for a gun.
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prairiefire Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:08:07pm |
re: #132 reine.de.tout
Just be happy you're not called (or portrayed as being) drooling, slack-jawed, uneducated idiots.
I'm happy with "flyover country." That is the most innocuous.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:08:18pm |
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:08:20pm |
re: #130 freetoken
I liked libertarians more back in the late 70's and early 80's, when the college libertarians were known for pushing the idea of the "L5 Society" move into outer space.
Now you get the anti-abortion, hemp economy! Libertarians. For the most part they seem like Republicans that smoke a lot of pot.
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:09:05pm |
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Obdicut Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:09:09pm |
re: #136 Rightwingconspirator
But if they are not in the debates we further entrench the GOP and Democratic party. Not really faithful to democracy. Why squelch real change? 3rd party candidates are often not loons at all. Except lately I must admit.
Campaign finance laws entrench the two-party system. At this point, without incredible reforms to that, there is no chance of a third-party having a real go at it, unless the GOP actually disintegrates.
I have no idea what "Why squelch real change?" is supposed to mean. Are you saying I'm squelching real change? I would have thought I'd heard something if I was squelching. Someone would have mentioned.
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Locker Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:09:30pm |
re: #124 reine.de.tout
Please believe what? I agreed with you. And here, from that article:
.
Plus, apparently, the Dept of Ed has little or no oversight.
sheesh.
Please believe is slang for "I agree with you"... sorry. Just giving an example. That project, and CDE projects are overseen by the program office or unit who owns the project. Think of a unit from 5 to 30 people. The contract approval process is actually grueling but when it comes to oversight it's normally ONE contract monitor's job to oversee the entire contract and to ensure that the work is done, etc, etc.
Additionally a "contract monitor" is not a job title, it's a role you do "on the side" in addition to your other duties. Normally it's a unit manager who also had to run their entire unit, handle all personnel issues and oversee every other project that the team works on.
This is the case regardless of the size of the contract. 10k or 10 million. Personally I think that it's an oversight model that makes it next to impossible to succeed in performing thorough and timely oversight.
Just my opinion.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:09:51pm |
re: #133 prairiefire
If there were 9 murders in my neighborhood I would absolutely freak out.
hey rent stabilized apartments don't grow on trees...
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:09:52pm |
re: #133 prairiefire
If there were 9 murders in my neighborhood I would absolutely freak out.
You could just move....
Neighborhood watch, is also an option. Look out for each other.
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prairiefire Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:12:41pm |
re: #152 Floral Giraffe
Hey, Cali Girl! Neighborhood watch programs are great. KC crime rates:[Link: www.neighborhoodscout.com...]
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:13:40pm |
re: #152 Floral Giraffe
You could just move...
Neighborhood watch, is also an option. Look out for each other.
we do look out for each other... bad neighbors get wacked.
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:14:17pm |
Can anyone ever bring down Oakland's crime rate? That's a seriously tall order.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:14:21pm |
re: #150 Locker
Please believe is slang for "I agree with you"... sorry. Just giving an example. That project, and CDE projects are overseen by the program office or unit who owns the project. Think of a unit from 5 to 30 people. The contract approval process is actually grueling but when it comes to oversight it's normally ONE contract monitor's job to oversee the entire contract and to ensure that the work is done, etc, etc.
Additionally a "contract monitor" is not a job title, it's a role you do "on the side" in addition to your other duties. Normally it's a unit manager who also had to run their entire unit, handle all personnel issues and oversee every other project that the team works on.
This is the case regardless of the size of the contract. 10k or 10 million. Personally I think that it's an oversight model that makes it next to impossible to succeed in performing thorough and timely oversight.
Just my opinion.
Oh, geez.
We do have full-time monitors of contracts; plus someone in the agency who also monitors and reports. So we don't have THAT kind of a problem, as this turned out to be.
We don't even really have contracts being given to pols friends/families so much - however, the contracts eat up a LOT of money, usually for jobs that are peripheral to the state's mission, and could be cut and save a lot of $ before the impact hits actual employees trying to do the work.
And for Dark Falcon - in some jurisdictions, a government employee can be furloughed for a period of time, or a day or two a week; yet STILL be called in to work when it's a critical job, and then get reimbursed with "comp time" rather than money. In the long run, it could work out well, because you might take that time when you're making more money than you're making now, plus you save your other leave. But in the short-term - it doesn't get today's mortgage paid.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:14:31pm |
re: #152 Floral Giraffe
You could just move...
Neighborhood watch, is also an option. Look out for each other.
Neighborhood watch doesn't work if its gang-related. They'll just shoot the watchmen. Dealing with them requires a strong police presence.
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:14:59pm |
re: #155 Gus 802
Can anyone ever bring down Oakland's crime rate? That's a seriously tall order.
Harry Truman could have.
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Political Atheist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:15:32pm |
re: #149 Obdicut
Campaign finance laws entrench the two-party system. At this point, without incredible reforms to that, there is no chance of a third-party having a real go at it, unless the GOP actually disintegrates.
I have no idea what "Why squelch real change?" is supposed to mean. Are you saying I'm squelching real change? I would have thought I'd heard something if I was squelching. Someone would have mentioned.
Squelching means closing out 3rd party folks from debates. Not you. The only squelch I expect from you would be in the event of really wet shoes. :) As the GOP splits (really quite possible) the fragments should be heard out IMO.
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A Man for all Seasons Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:15:45pm |
re: #152 Floral Giraffe
You could just move...
Neighborhood watch, is also an option. Look out for each other.
Honesty..I don't thing Jerry won this debate...Just my opinion but I thought he did poorly and over the top...But who knows...I don't think Gov. Moonbeam changed any views on him... I didn't like Meg either...Gotta call my pops and see who he is going to vote for...
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Kragar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:15:47pm |
re: #155 Gus 802
Can anyone ever bring down Oakland's crime rate? That's a seriously tall order.
Step one) remove the Raiders
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:16:09pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:16:09pm |
re: #155 Gus 802
Can anyone ever bring down Oakland's crime rate? That's a seriously tall order.
The people who have moved away think so.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:16:37pm |
re: #155 Gus 802
Can anyone ever bring down Oakland's crime rate? That's a seriously tall order.
all snark aside, yes it was done in NYC it can be done in Oakland... it is not pretty, but it can be done.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:16:41pm |
re: #153 prairiefire
LOL!
It can be a real challenge to find an affordable apartment, in a decent neighborhood in LA. "Above the bum zone" in the Hills always worked for me. But, we also deal with rent control, so the landlord wants a credit worthy tenant, who won't stay very long.
I'm currently in suburbia, with 12 police officers within a 2 block radius of my house. Minivan heaven.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:17:02pm |
I busted a cute hippie chick raiding my fig tree. She made up a bogus story about investigating sustainable urban food sources for some socialist progressive type organization. I was so busy trying to impress her with my gardening knowledge I forgot to tell her that I don't mind if people pick figs off my tree.
Oh well. She was way too young for me and I don't need the aggravation anyways. Fucking vegetarians.
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:17:08pm |
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Varek Raith Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:17:12pm |
re: #112 Obdicut
[Link: en.wikinews.org...]
Dale Ogden:
Why the fuck should we elect an anti-science lunatic, pray tell?
Yep.
The Libertarian Party is full of these nutters.
It's why I left 'em.
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Obdicut Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:17:20pm |
re: #159 Rightwingconspirator
Squelching means closing out 3rd party folks from debates. Not you. The only squelch I expect from you would be in the event of really wet shoes. :) As the GOP splits (really quite possible) the fragments should be heard out IMO.
Well, how many people should we let into debates? What should the bar be?
I'd prefer to have critics present at the debate-- people who aren't running for anything, who are not attached to any particular party, whose job is to call bullshit on bullshit.
That would never happen.
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:17:29pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:18:15pm |
re: #165 brookly red
all snark aside, yes it was done in NYC it can be done in Oakland... it is not pretty, but it can be done.
Rudy!
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Velvet Elvis Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:18:45pm |
Didn't see the debate, don't live in California, but I figure anybody who wants that job has to be crazy or be after something for themselves. We know Brown is crazy. Whitman leaves some questions to be answered.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:18:50pm |
re: #166 Floral Giraffe
LOL!
It can be a real challenge to find an affordable apartment, in a decent neighborhood in LA. "Above the bum zone" in the Hills always worked for me. But, we also deal with rent control, so the landlord wants a credit worthy tenant, who won't stay very long.I'm currently in suburbia, with 12 police officers within a 2 block radius of my house. Minivan heaven.
lemmie guess, you live in a dunkin doughnuts?
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:18:57pm |
re: #132 reine.de.tout
Just be happy you're not called (or portrayed as being) drooling, slack-jawed, uneducated idiots.
Californians only drool when we've had too much Botox.
//
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A Man for all Seasons Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:19:20pm |
re: #167 Killgore Trout
I busted a cute hippie chick raiding my fig tree. She made up a bogus story about investigating sustainable urban food sources for some socialist progressive type organization. I was so busy trying to impress her with my gardening knowledge I forgot to tell her that I don't mind if people pick figs off my tree.
Oh well. She was way too young for me and I don't need the aggravation anyways. Fucking vegetarians.
We had a fig tree in Napa..I hate figs off the tree...Tastes like crap..If I am going to die of starvation or eat figs..I'm Weighing my options...
/HI KT
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prairiefire Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:19:22pm |
re: #166 Floral Giraffe
Yep, I live in minivan heaven.
KCPD Chief Corwin's blog.[Link: kcpdchief.blogspot.com...]
Kind of sweetly earnest in crime fighting, sigh.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:19:48pm |
re: #165 brookly red
all snark aside, yes it was done in NYC it can be done in Oakland... it is not pretty, but it can be done.
VERY TRUE! NYC did get cleaned up. At least the tourist part. But did it go away, or just get pushed out of sight? Serious question, BTW.
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Political Atheist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:19:55pm |
re: #170 Obdicut
Well, how many people should we let into debates? What should the bar be?
I'd prefer to have critics present at the debate-- people who aren't running for anything, who are not attached to any particular party, whose job is to call bullshit on bullshit.
That would never happen.
I would say everyone on the ballot belongs in the debate. And letting the critics in is a very good idea given strong moderation. Heh. Like here. Reminds me of the idea of letting jurors question witnesses or counsel Also not gonna happen.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:20:09pm |
re: #165 brookly red
all snark aside, yes it was done in NYC it can be done in Oakland... it is not pretty, but it can be done.
It would require a major revamp of the police and it would require a police chief actually given some insulation from public opinion. this last is needed be cause I don't know how well Oakland's mostly black population would react to the large-scale arrests such a campaign would require.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:20:18pm |
re: #155 Gus 802
Can anyone ever bring down Oakland's crime rate? That's a seriously tall order.
Laying off police officers was probably not the first thing I would have picked.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:20:28pm |
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:20:35pm |
re: #177 HoosierHoops
We had a fig tree in Napa..I hate figs off the tree...Tastes like crap..If I am going to die of starvation or eat figs..I'm Weighing my options...
/HI KT
I only like figs on newtons.
/
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:21:06pm |
re: #167 Killgore Trout
LOL!
She'll be back, if you were nice!
Another chance for you!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:21:06pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:21:11pm |
re: #174 Conservative Moonbat
Didn't see the debate, don't live in California, but I figure anybody who wants that job has to be crazy or be after something for themselves. We know Brown is crazy. Whitman leaves some questions to be answered.
Some people are getting tired of watching the state self destruct in wasteful spending. I can understand why someone would run. They feel they might make a difference and help make their state much better.
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Political Atheist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:21:20pm |
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Locker Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:21:21pm |
re: #169 Varek Raith
Yep.
The Libertarian Party is full of these nutters.
It's why I left 'em.
True but it was the endless, daily stack of junk mail in my inbox which drove me away. On my honor they sent me more junk mail than real estate flyers, grocery circulars and publishers clearing house combined.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:21:36pm |
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Four More Tears Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:21:49pm |
re: #180 Floral Giraffe
VERY TRUE! NYC did get cleaned up. At least the tourist part. But did it go away, or just get pushed out of sight? Serious question, BTW.
Oh no, crime did absolutely go down. Stayed that way, too.
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:21:58pm |
re: #180 Floral Giraffe
little of both,but the overall rate did drop markedly.there are still some places you don't want to get stuck in,but those places are much fewer since the eighties.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:22:01pm |
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:22:57pm |
re: #180 Floral Giraffe
VERY TRUE! NYC did get cleaned up. At least the tourist part. But did it go away, or just get pushed out of sight? Serious question, BTW.
well both kinda. you start with real sentencing. when someone is found guilty of their third robbery you say hmmm probation doesn't seem to work... see you in 15 years.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:23:11pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:23:11pm |
re: #184 SanFranciscoZionist
Laying off police officers was probably not the first thing I would have picked.
Yikes! Did they really do that in Oakland?
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Four More Tears Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:23:30pm |
re: #194 Boondock St. Bender
little of both,but the overall rate did drop markedly.there are still some places you don't want to get stuck in,but those places are much fewer since the eighties.
Hunts Point used to be the place to pick up prostitutes in the Bronx until it got cleaned up.
Or so I've heard...
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:24:11pm |
Seriously though. I was thinking only about Fig Newtons. Not Walter.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:24:40pm |
re: #167 Killgore Trout
I busted a cute hippie chick raiding my fig tree. She made up a bogus story about investigating sustainable urban food sources for some socialist progressive type organization. I was so busy trying to impress her with my gardening knowledge I forgot to tell her that I don't mind if people pick figs off my tree.
Oh well. She was way too young for me and I don't need the aggravation anyways. Fucking vegetarians.
Heh. The story might have been true. Although, why she didn't just knock on your door and talk to you instead of raiding your fig tree . . .
I have to say, though, a fig tree produces a LOT more figs than one person can reasonably eat. You ought to just collect them and set them out and tell folks to help themselves. Maybe someone lovely and a bit older will stop by.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:24:46pm |
re: #201 Gus 802
Seriously though. I was thinking only about Fig Newtons. Not Walter.
Strawberry Newtons rule.
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theheat Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:25:01pm |
re: #201 Gus 802
CCA likes them on his pizza. They complement the pineapple.
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Varek Raith Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:25:05pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:25:10pm |
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:25:28pm |
re: #183 Dark_Falcon
It would require a major revamp of the police and it would require a police chief actually given some insulation from public opinion. this last is needed be cause I don't know how well Oakland's mostly black population would react to the large-scale arrests such a campaign would require.
no you don't need large scale arrests, a very small percentage of the population commits the majority of crimes. you just need to stop releasing the same people over & over...
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:25:30pm |
re: #139 Turu The Terrible
I'm disappointed that it took 139 replies to get to this.
Jello Biafra is my Bob Dylan.
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:25:35pm |
re: #203 Cannadian Club Akbar
Strawberry Newtons rule.
Better than fig for sure....... but that doughy coating .... I dunno.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:25:37pm |
re: #201 Gus 802
Seriously though. I was thinking only about Fig Newtons. Not Walter.
When I was pregnant, I had an insatiable craving for fig newtons. We were at the beach and had to leave and find a store, where I bought a package of fig newtons and ate almost all of them. I love fig newtons.
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:25:41pm |
re: #204 theheat
CCA likes them on his pizza. They complement the pineapple.
Better yet. How about a Pineapple Newtons pizza?
/
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:25:47pm |
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:26:07pm |
Ok... so... managed to get through disk 6 of "Death Note" as of tonight. This show is as convoluted as a season of "LOST."
And if somebody doesn't plug Misa Misa... that annoying little tramp, plug her one way, or the other, I'm going to put a foot though the TV screen.
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Max Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:26:09pm |
Latest drivel from Pajamas Media. "The Big Money and Global Governance Agenda of That Fuels Environmentalism."
Just dumb. Just stupid. Just utter and complete fail on every level.
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freetoken Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:26:49pm |
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theheat Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:26:50pm |
re: #213 Cannadian Club Akbar
Hold the figs, double the pineapple. Same price. Win.
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:26:55pm |
re: #214 Walter L. Newton
Ok... so... managed to get through disk 6 of "Death Note" as of tonight. This show is as convoluted as a season of "LOST."
And if somebody doesn't plug Misa Misa... that annoying little tramp, plug her one way, or the other, I'm going to put a foot though the TV screen.
None of that is even in my wheelhouse.
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Max Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:26:58pm |
re: #214 Walter L. Newton
Great series. What chapter are you on? I don't know how the disks are arranged.
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prairiefire Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:27:11pm |
re: #214 Walter L. Newton
Ok... so... managed to get through disk 6 of "Death Note" as of tonight. This show is as convoluted as a season of "LOST."
And if somebody doesn't plug Misa Misa... that annoying little tramp, plug her one way, or the other, I'm going to put a foot though the TV screen.
We are on episode 49 or so of "Soul Eaters."
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Varek Raith Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:27:17pm |
re: #214 Walter L. Newton
Ok... so... managed to get through disk 6 of "Death Note" as of tonight. This show is as convoluted as a season of "LOST."
And if somebody doesn't plug Misa Misa... that annoying little tramp, plug her one way, or the other, I'm going to put a foot though the TV screen.
It's implied that she committed suicide.
That help?
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:27:32pm |
It's at least 15 degrees cooler outside.
Later, Lizards!
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:27:44pm |
re: #198 NJDhockeyfan
Yikes! Did they really do that in Oakland?
Yes. They laid off 80 out of 800 cops. The budget could not afford more without concessions that the police were unwilling to make.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:28:42pm |
Reine, NatGeo has a special on the oil slick on.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:28:53pm |
re: #212 Gus 802
Better yet. How about a Pineapple Newtons pizza?
/
why do I feel like I am being provoked?
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austin_blue Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:28:57pm |
re: #182 Rightwingconspirator
I would say everyone on the ballot belongs in the debate. And letting the critics in is a very good idea given strong moderation. Heh. Like here. Reminds me of the idea of letting jurors question witnesses or counsel Also not gonna happen.
Here in Texas, Governor Good Hair elected not to participate in a debate with the D Bill (My God! My ears look like a VW with the doors open!) White. So the debate will now include White, the Green candidate (1% in the polls) and the Libertarian (4% in the polls).
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A Man for all Seasons Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:29:01pm |
Everybody loves yummy fig newtons..I don't know what they do to make them so tasty..
You take a taste off a fig from tree and You'll spit it out...And possibly roll in Convulsions on the ground begging for mercy and dialing 911 on the Cell
/
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:29:05pm |
re: #224 Cannadian Club Akbar
Reine, NatGeo has a special on the oil slick on.
THANKS!
Going to check it now.
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:29:07pm |
re: #214 Walter L. Newton
very good anime' i really liked the "L" character
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:29:38pm |
re: #215 Max D. Reinhardt
Latest drivel from Pajamas Media. "The Big Money and Global Governance Agenda of That Fuels Environmentalism."
Just dumb. Just stupid. Just utter and complete fail on every level.
The Commies are coming! The Commies are coming! I tell ya'. Someone is always taking over the world. The UN was supposed to take over the world ever since the Korean War. If the greens were taking over the world I'm not seeing it.
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Varek Raith Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:29:57pm |
re: #229 Boondock St. Bender
very good anime' i really liked the "L" character
It was good until the last few episodes.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:30:12pm |
re: #206 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh, hell yeah.
That's insane. Oakland couldn't find any other way to save money? I am so glad I don't live near there. Oakland should go up from "fourth highest violent crime rate in the country".
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:30:28pm |
re: #219 Max D. Reinhardt
Great series. What chapter are you on? I don't know how the disks are arranged.
Four episodes a disk... so... 24... no, not a great series. The basic plot is interesting, but why in a shinigami name do they have to keep rehashing the plot, overly verbose recaps of what just happened, or what is going to happen, I mean, it's like listening to a compulsive pendant dissect ever move and thought.
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:30:38pm |
re: #225 brookly red
why do I feel like I am being provoked?
Sounds kind of gross doesn't it? Although, with a cannoli dough it might work.
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:30:47pm |
re: #230 Gus 802
The Commies are coming! The Commies are coming! I tell ya'. Someone is always taking over the world. The UN was supposed to take over the world ever since the Korean War. If the greens were taking over the world I'm not seeing it.
The UN is a bunch of pussies.
/
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:31:03pm |
re: #224 Cannadian Club Akbar
Reine, NatGeo has a special on the oil slick on.
The dispersants -
Kept the oil off the beaches.
But I read somewhere they think the dispersants contributed to the oil found on the seafloor.
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Locker Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:31:23pm |
re: #175 brookly red
lemmie guess, you live in a dunkin doughnuts?
Dunkin Donuts FTW! The nearest one is 785 miles away in Peoria, Arizona. I love em but I'm not driving 13 hours for a donut.
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theheat Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:31:32pm |
re: #230 Gus 802
Drill Baby Drill sounds better. It has a beat and they can dance to it.
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freetoken Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:31:46pm |
re: #235 Mr Pancakes
The UN is a bunch of pussies.
Well, what do you expect of a group that wear blue helmets. Blue, I tell you!
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:31:59pm |
re: #215 Max D. Reinhardt
Latest drivel from Pajamas Media. "The Big Money and Global Governance Agenda of That Fuels Environmentalism."
Just dumb. Just stupid. Just utter and complete fail on every level.
They went from hosting columns by Charles to hosting columns by someone who blogstalks Charles ("snork"). That's a long fall.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:32:03pm |
re: #237 Locker
Dunkin Donuts FTW! The nearest one is 785 miles away in Peoria, Arizona. I love em but I'm not driving 13 hours for a donut.
That's just lazy.
//
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Varek Raith Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:32:18pm |
re: #233 Walter L. Newton
Four episodes a disk... so... 24... no, not a great series. The basic plot is interesting, but why in a shinigami name do they have to keep rehashing the plot, overly verbose recaps of what just happened, or what is going to happen, I mean, it's like listening to a compulsive pendant dissect ever move and thought.
Whoops, sorry.
I won't say anymore on the series.
*I thought you had finished it*
:/
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:32:32pm |
re: #229 Boondock St. Bender
very good anime' i really liked the "L" character
Very good anime? Hell, it reminds me of "Speed Racer." How many frames a second are we talking here? Two or three. And where are the Japanese... the fucking show takes place in JAPAN and I haven't seen but one or two authentic looking Asians yet... Lights father is Burt Reynolds... shit.
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:32:47pm |
re: #239 freetoken
Well, what do you expect of a group that wear blue helmets. Blue, I tell you!
It's the Blue Helmets! And they're armed with Selectrics and 15# bond!
//
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:32:49pm |
How many different conversations are going on in this thread right now?
Ain't it great . . .
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:32:56pm |
re: #233 Walter L. Newton
i guess because one episode airs each week,and they try to bring the tension from the cliffhanger(bleach does the same thing,sometimes five minutes of the last episode)
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:32:59pm |
re: #239 freetoken
Well, what do you expect of a group that wear blue helmets. Blue, I tell you!
That's kinda a neutral color if you ask me.
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prairiefire Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:33:09pm |
re: #243 Walter L. Newton
How is the step critter's foot?
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:33:40pm |
re: #238 theheat
Drill Baby Drill sounds better. It has a beat and they can dance to it.
Well, it would help Cali solve its money problems.
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Political Atheist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:33:41pm |
re: #245 reine.de.tout
How many different conversations are going on in this thread right now?
Ain't it great . . .
No squabbles. Yay! Just some good back and forth.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:33:49pm |
re: #247 Mr Pancakes
That's kinda a neutral color if you ask me.
We need to give them Raiders helmets. Scary!!
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Varek Raith Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:34:03pm |
re: #246 Boondock St. Bender
i guess because one episode airs each week,and they try to bring the tension from the cliffhanger(bleach does the same thing,sometimes five minutes of the last episode)
With Bleach, you're better off sticking with the manga.
Seriously.
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theheat Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:34:26pm |
re: #247 Mr Pancakes
Statistically a very trustworthy color. Recommended as a color (navy) to wear to court. Personally, blue is my least favorite color.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:34:27pm |
re: #177 HoosierHoops
We had a fig tree in Napa..I hate figs off the tree...Tastes like crap..If I am going to die of starvation or eat figs..I'm Weighing my options...
/HI KT
Anti-figism!
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:34:35pm |
re: #248 prairiefire
How is the step critter's foot?
Had the operation this morning, she's in a little pain, they want her off the walker in two/three days, says she should be able to start putting weight on it by then... all in all, everything went fine.
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:34:48pm |
re: #251 Cannadian Club Akbar
We need to give them Raiders helmets. Scary!!
Aren't the Raiders wearing pink these days?
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freetoken Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:34:56pm |
re: #247 Mr Pancakes
That's kinda a neutral color if you ask me.
Real men where khaki, brown, or black helmets (except for military police who might where white.)
Blue is for sissies.
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:35:11pm |
We will take that hill by first dropping 500 pounds of strongly worded letters from our assault aircraft!
UN Commander - March 15, 1983
//
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:35:27pm |
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:35:28pm |
re: #253 theheat
Statistically a very trustworthy color. Recommended as a color (navy) to wear to court. Personally, blue is my least favorite color.
You commie..... blue is my favorite color and mood.
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:35:42pm |
re: #257 freetoken
Real men where khaki, brown, or black helmets (except for military police who might where white.)
Blue is for sissies.
Real men don't wear helmets.
/
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:35:49pm |
re: #243 Walter L. Newton
and you're on disc 6?...
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:35:50pm |
re: #232 NJDhockeyfan
That's insane. Oakland couldn't find any other way to save money? I am so glad I don't live near there. Oakland should go up from "fourth highest violent crime rate in the country".
Ah, I've lived and worked there off and on over the years. The terrible pity is that it's quite a safe place to live unless you live in one of 'those' neighborhoods. The violence is very ghettoized.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:35:58pm |
re: #234 Gus 802
Sounds kind of gross doesn't it? Although, with a cannoli dough it might work.
if you put something other than cream in a cannoli, it is usually to send a message. (use you imagination).
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theheat Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:36:13pm |
re: #261 Mr Pancakes
My condolences. "64 crayons in the box, and you picked BLUE?"
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:36:38pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:36:48pm |
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Varek Raith Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:37:13pm |
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:37:18pm |
re: #263 Boondock St. Bender
and you're on disc 6?...
What do you mean... yes... I've watched 24 episodes...
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theheat Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:37:37pm |
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prairiefire Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:37:53pm |
re: #255 Walter L. Newton
Wow, I'm glad they got in there and went after the problem. Hope the critter feels better soon.
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A Man for all Seasons Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:38:36pm |
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freetoken Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:38:50pm |
The problem with being a celeb - everybody is watching you 24x7:
Alaska checking Bristol Palin's bar stop
A state investigator is apparently checking whether it was legal for "Dancing with the Stars" contestant Bristol Palin to be in a downtown Anchorage establishment while dancing partner Mark Ballas performed.
The question is Palin's age, 19. She could only legally be in Rumrunners Old Towne Bar and Grill last Friday if accompanied by a parent, spouse or legal guardian over 21. State law also would allow her to be there if it's been designated as a bona fide restaurant, and she was there only to eat. [...]
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Turu The Terrible Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:38:53pm |
re: #209 negativ
I'm disappointed that it took 139 replies to get to this.
Jello Biafra is my Bob Dylan.
Theres always room for Jello™
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:38:55pm |
re: #139 Turu The Terrible
Everything old is new again...I remember when this was an underground hit...
I am Governor Jerry Brown
My aura smiles and never frowns
Soon I will be President
Carter power will soon go 'way
I will be Führer someday
I will control all of you
Your kids will meditate in school
California über alles!
California über alles!
Zen Fascists will control you
100% natural
You will jog for the Master Race
And always wear the Happy Face
Close your eyes can't happen here
Your Big Bro on white horse is near
The hippies won't come back you say
Mellow out or you will pay!
Mellow out of you will pay!
California über alles!
California über alles!
[Video]
I always preferred the "We've got a bigger problem, now" version, myself.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:39:00pm |
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:39:41pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:39:52pm |
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:40:09pm |
re: #267 Mr Pancakes
Periwinkle
I prefer Emerald Green myself. Though Teal is good as a summer color.
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:40:14pm |
Anything but magenta. I'm a permanent magenta victim after the 80s.
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:40:22pm |
re: #209 negativ
I'm disappointed that it took 139 replies to get to this.
Jello Biafra is my Bob Dylan.
I love the Dead Kennedys........ Kill the Poor!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:40:51pm |
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prairiefire Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:41:19pm |
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:41:35pm |
re: #282 Cannadian Club Akbar
BOOB THREAD!!!
/
I tried to start one earlier but the management responded with Anderson Cooper... talk about ironic smack downs....
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:41:43pm |
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:41:54pm |
re: #270 Varek Raith
usually i watch the subbed(the latest episodes usually take time to get dubbed)japanese is a very dramatic language.
(spoiler! when barriagan ways dying and threw his axe at aizen,you could feel the hate/contempt from the voice actor.)
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:42:16pm |
I like these crayons myself.
Copper Sulfate is a good one.
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Varek Raith Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:42:50pm |
re: #290 Boondock St. Bender
usually i watch the subbed(the latest episodes usually take time to get dubbed)japanese is a very dramatic language.
(spoiler! when barriagan ways dying and threw his axe at aizen,you could feel the hate/contempt from the voice actor.)
Are you up to date on the manga?
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austin_blue Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:42:52pm |
re: #209 negativ
I'm disappointed that it took 139 replies to get to this.
Jello Biafra is my Bob Dylan.
Holiday in Cambodia.
A classic.
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:42:54pm |
re: #286 Cannadian Club Akbar
Millions of Dead Babies?
“I had a dream that all the aborted babies came back, they were really pissed.”
Steven Wright
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A Man for all Seasons Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:43:02pm |
re: #287 prairiefire
I posted Katy Perry in the previous thread.
I loved her California Girls on SNL last Saturday..she is talented..And cute
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:43:07pm |
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Turu The Terrible Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:44:00pm |
re: #278 wlewisiii
I always thought that version was rather contrived and nowhere near as good as the original.
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:44:16pm |
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:44:24pm |
re: #292 Varek Raith
yes,just read latest chapter friday night.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:44:33pm |
re: #297 reine.de.tout
Geez.
What planet have you been living on?
I gave up on Hollywood years ago when they went kook.
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theheat Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:44:47pm |
re: #284 Gus 802
Remember magenta/mauve and gray furniture and decor being the height of "it-ness"? [shudders]
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:44:59pm |
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Stanghazi Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:45:00pm |
re: #174 Conservative Moonbat
Didn't see the debate, don't live in California, but I figure anybody who wants that job has to be crazy or be after something for themselves. We know Brown is crazy. Whitman leaves some questions to be answered.
She's spent 115 Million of her own money on this. She's crazy.
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prairiefire Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:45:15pm |
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Turu The Terrible Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:45:26pm |
re: #291 reine.de.tout
I like these crayons myself.
Copper Sulfate is a good one.
Those are cool! Wish they had them when I was a kid.
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Stanghazi Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:45:28pm |
re: #305 Stanley Sea
omg, didn't realize how far behind I was.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:45:44pm |
re: #303 theheat
Remember magenta/mauve and gray furniture and decor being the height of "it-ness"? [shudders]
Oh, hell.
I remember when Harvest Gold and Avocado Green were everywhere.
Everything was one or the other.
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:45:46pm |
re: #303 theheat
Remember magenta/mauve and gray furniture and decor being the height of "it-ness"? [shudders]
You bet. And then those magenta panels/paintings. Some stupid canvas with all magenta paint.
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Varek Raith Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:45:54pm |
re: #301 Boondock St. Bender
yes,just read latest chapter friday night.
I really hope Aizen being sealed like that is not the end of him...
Kind of...
Anticlimactic.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:46:10pm |
re: #308 Stanley Sea
omg, didn't realize how far behind I was.
LOL.
You've been hanging around SFZ too long.
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:46:13pm |
re: #309 reine.de.tout
Oh, hell.
I remember when Harvest Gold and Avocado Green were everywhere.
Everything was one or the other.
I remember that too.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:46:37pm |
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:47:15pm |
re: #311 Varek Raith
he'll be back...kubo tite will probably do a background arc first.(isshin!)
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:47:17pm |
re: #307 Turu The Terrible
Those are cool! Wish they had them when I was a kid.
I thought they were pretty cool, too.
I might try to find a box for me.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:47:39pm |
re: #295 Boondock St. Bender
lol very good!
We have a family agreement around her, we all get opportunities to suggest a series or a movie and we rotate watching something together, no matter the subject matter... so, the older step critter wanted to watch "Death Note" and we are slowly getting through the series. The kids have already seen it once... they wanted me to see it.
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prairiefire Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:47:49pm |
re: #309 reine.de.tout
Oh, hell.
I remember when Harvest Gold and Avocado Green were everywhere.
Everything was one or the other.
We had harvest gold shag carpet in the den, avacodo green in the kitchen.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:47:56pm |
OT- Props to the Tampa Bay Rays for making the playoffs. Carry on.
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:48:15pm |
re: #309 reine.de.tout
Oh, hell.
I remember when Harvest Gold and Avocado Green were everywhere.
Everything was one or the other.
Then there was the turquoise and salmon trends. Magenta was still the worst one for me. Turquoise is a nice color.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:48:27pm |
re: #319 prairiefire
We had harvest gold shag carpet in the den, avacodo green in the kitchen.
you had shag in the kitchen?
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theheat Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:49:09pm |
re: #310 Gus 802
And everyone had cheap Nagel knockoffs in "sleek" black metal poster frames.
I think I'm getting sick now.
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:49:30pm |
re: #319 prairiefire
We had harvest gold shag carpet in the den, avacodo green in the kitchen.
Don't forget the wood paneling.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:49:32pm |
Dukakis shared his strategy for midterm elections at the White House
Former Massachusetts Governor Michael S. Dukakis, the failed 1988 presidential nominee, recently visited the White House and delivered his strategy for the midterm elections: pound key precincts across the country with the message that Republicans want to implement the same policies that led to the Great Recession.
Great, that's what the Dems need right now, election advise from Michael Dukakis. LOL!
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prairiefire Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:49:38pm |
re: #322 brookly red
you had shag in the kitchen?
In the "Den". The 60's suburban name for the family room. We had a rake to rake the carpet and find lego pieces.
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Varek Raith Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:49:39pm |
re: #316 Boondock St. Bender
he'll be back...kubo tite will probably do a background arc first.(isshin!)
Probably.
I wish the good guys wouldn't always get off so easily...
*Hitsugaya needs to just die*
:evilgrin:
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theheat Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:50:07pm |
re: #309 reine.de.tout
I like either of those better than the pinks and sweet colors.
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:50:17pm |
re: #326 NJDhockeyfan
Dukakis shared his strategy for midterm elections at the White House
Great, that's what the Dems need right now, election advise from Michael Dukakis. LOL!
Hey! Walter Mondale wasn't available.
/
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:50:21pm |
re: #326 NJDhockeyfan
Dukakis shared his strategy for midterm elections at the White House
Great, that's what the Dems need right now, election advise from Michael Dukakis. LOL!
Get me a tank!!!
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:50:42pm |
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theheat Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:50:51pm |
re: #324 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh, sure. You would make this dirty somehow.
//
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:51:09pm |
re: #328 Varek Raith
millions of lil fan girls will cry then go looking for tite!
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prairiefire Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:51:12pm |
re: #317 reine.de.tout
Hey, Reine! I had an earful of 12 and 1/2 year old girl angst today.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:51:38pm |
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:51:48pm |
re: #326 NJDhockeyfan
Dukakis shared his strategy for midterm elections at the White House
Great, that's what the Dems need right now, election advise from Michael Dukakis. LOL!
too little, too late.
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:51:52pm |
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:52:06pm |
re: #299 Turu The Terrible
I always thought that version was rather contrived and nowhere near as good as the original.
Contrived was Jello's middle name. :eek:
Then again, I was listening to far more Husker Du, Replacements, X & so on, so while the DK's were interesting they weren't very "new" to me. Playing fast and loose with their own material was much more entertaining than a rant about a politician who couldn't touch me. Plus St Ronnie could and did have a very profound impact on my life...
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:52:31pm |
re: #328 Varek Raith
i do have to admit to a softspot for toshiro,my youngest son looks a little like him(big blue eyes)
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:52:33pm |
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prairiefire Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:52:46pm |
re: #337 theheat
Remember all those country/flower patterns in pinks and blues from the eighties? Yuch.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:53:46pm |
University of South Florida on NatGeo!! Representing!!!
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:53:54pm |
re: #340 Mr Pancakes
Yea dude ... the Passion Pit. Got a problem with that?
no, no it's all good. Did Medicaid cover it?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:54:34pm |
re: #320 Cannadian Club Akbar
OT- Props to the Tampa Bay Rays for making the playoffs. Carry on.
Psychosis ding.
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theheat Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:54:37pm |
re: #344 prairiefire
And the furniture with wooden trim, for the country look. Herculon plaids with wood and square faux oak particle board tables vs. the more citified pre shabby chic watercolor florals. Seriously retching now.
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austin_blue Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:54:54pm |
re: #309 reine.de.tout
Oh, hell.
I remember when Harvest Gold and Avocado Green were everywhere.
Everything was one or the other.
Used to be you could get Chambers and O'Keefe 'n Merritt stoves in red, black, yellow, and green.
I've got a white, 1947 O&K.
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:55:11pm |
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prairiefire Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:55:29pm |
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Boondock St. Bender Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:56:20pm |
re: #348 theheat
if you really want to get sick ck. out james lilecks "interior desacrations"
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:56:43pm |
re: #103 sattv4u2
The thread is about California election
I thought I'd keep it to Cali cities
Yes,,many cities are "sanctuary cities"
blah blah blah caifornia ninth plane of hell evil unions evil liberals satan blah
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:56:44pm |
re: #278 wlewisiii
I always preferred the "We've got a bigger problem, now" version, myself.
The most recent version I've heard is, of course, retooled for Schwartzenegger.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:57:23pm |
re: #349 austin_blue
Used to be you could get Chambers and O'Keefe 'n Merritt stoves in red, black, yellow, and green.
I've got a white, 1947 O&K.
Whoa.
Worth some bucks, looks like.
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theheat Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:57:41pm |
re: #351 prairiefire
Well, don't let your foam padded cornice in mauve polyester moire hit your butt on the the way out! (goodnight)
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Max Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:57:48pm |
This is a very disturbing video of that looks like it was smuggled out of Afghanistan or maybe Pakistan. Some brave soul secretly filmed the barbaric child abuse in this Islamic school.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:57:53pm |
There is something that I want to say.
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freetoken Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:58:02pm |
Don't know if this link was posted earlier, but Mediate ran an article this afternoon with this lead in paragraph:
The calendar may say the summer’s over, but that doesn’t mean we can’t all try to hold on to those lovely warm months. In Los Angeles, for instance, people are pretending it’s still July by suffering through a terrible heat wave. Meanwhile, the guests on Money Rocks are helping out by continuing to shriek at each other over ...
Heh, "shriek" - you've got to know who is the subject. They've got the Fox (still the favorite "news" channel for some around here, it appears) video of the entire segment - more stupid than one could imagine:
[Link: www.mediaite.com...]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:58:11pm |
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:58:15pm |
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:58:17pm |
re: #354 WindUpBird
blah blah blah caifornia ninth plane of hell evil unions evil liberals satan blah
blah blah blah the south slack-jawed drooling blah blah blah
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:58:31pm |
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:58:34pm |
re: #355 negativ
The most recent version I've heard is, of course, retooled for Schwartzenegger.
Isn't that "California Uber Alles"?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:58:36pm |
re: #360 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
First? I am glad that California gets to figure this out.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:58:46pm |
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:59:27pm |
So, I'm at the gym earlier this evening, watching Fox news while on the treadmill, and they are doing a report on North Korea and Little Kim's possible successor, his son Kim Jong-un.
So Fox is going all "scare" mode, pointing out that Kim Jong-un has been being groomed for only 2 years for the job as dictator and commander of the military, and soon he may have his finger on their nuclear arsenal.
So what? Our commander in chief Obama was only groomed for a few years and he doesn't have any more experience in running a country or commanding a military than Kim Jong-un... heck... as far as I see it... this evens thing out between North Korea and us.
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Gus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:59:43pm |
re: #358 HappyWarrior
So I had a class. Who won the debate?
I honestly can't call it. Have my own personal feelings but everyone will have their own. Whitman came of rather mechanical and too naive.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:59:46pm |
re: #367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
First? I am glad that California gets to figure this out.
We will be bailing them out.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:59:51pm |
re: #336 prairiefire
Hey, Reine! I had an earful of 12 and 1/2 year old girl angst today.
Uh-oh!
I remember those days.
You survived?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:59:53pm |
re: #52 pharmmajor
Pity they didn't invite Dale Ogden to participate in the debate. The people need to know they have other options than the Dems and the GOP:
[Link: www.daleogden.org...]
Hey, can we get some clowns on unicycles to participate in the debate as well?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 7:59:57pm |
re: #367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Second? Of all the posts I have ever made?...
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brookly red Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:00:27pm |
re: #364 reine.de.tout
blah blah blah the south slack-jawed drooling blah blah blah
I wish we had audio, you could play dueling banjos...
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theheat Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:00:56pm |
re: #353 Boondock St. Bender
I'm out of here to go check it out. Anywhere that talks about a room reminding them of Eskimos having a three way needs to be looked at more closely. Thanks for the intel.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:01:16pm |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:01:28pm |
re: #359 Max D. Reinhardt
This is a very disturbing video of that looks like it was smuggled out of Afghanistan or maybe Pakistan. Some brave soul secretly filmed the barbaric child abuse in this Islamic school.
I've got $10 that says we could turn this into a multi-thousand post thread about corporal punishment and circumcision during which absolutely everyone calls absolutely everyone else a depraved corpse-fucker, and Charles bans everyone including himself.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:01:32pm |
re: #374 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The very most important thing I have ever said on LGF.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:02:04pm |
re: #379 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The very most important thing I have ever said on LGF.
G'nite knucleheads?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:02:39pm |
re: #379 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I love my Mommy.
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calochortus Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:02:47pm |
re: #363 brookly red
Gah, I couldn't take the thought of watching while I ate dinner so I just finished watching the rebroadcast.
Who won? Who knows? I still don't know whether to vote for Brown or just not vote. Whitman is probably bad enough that I'll vote for Brown. Sigh...
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:02:57pm |
re: #378 negativ
Not that I'm advocating, mind you, just that I've seen what happens when you put the descendants of apes on the internet with that kind of material.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:03:16pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:03:23pm |
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HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:04:36pm |
re: #370 Gus 802
I honestly can't call it. Have my own personal feelings but everyone will have their own. Whitman came of rather mechanical and too naive.
Appreciate it. I also missed the Obama speech to the students tonight because of the same class.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:04:44pm |
re: #319 prairiefire
We had harvest gold shag carpet in the den, avacodo green in the kitchen.
LOL.
Both.
You were uptown, baby, weren't ya?
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:04:52pm |
re: #386 Cannadian Club Akbar
She made you pie, didn't she?
My mommy made me pie before....... she's dead now.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:05:33pm |
re: #389 Mr Pancakes
My mommy made me pie before... she's dead now.
Mine too, 2 1/2 years now.
And I still feel the pain, whenever I think of her.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:06:23pm |
re: #382 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Okay. Someone top that 40,000th comment.
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:06:57pm |
re: #390 reine.de.tout
Mine too, 2 1/2 years now.
And I still feel the pain, whenever I think of her.
Yep......... it hurts. She died of dementia ........ didn't know who I was at the end.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:07:16pm |
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:07:33pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:07:51pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:08:11pm |
re: #392 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Okay. Someone top that 40,000th comment.
I hit my 19,000 this morning. Show off.
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Stanghazi Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:08:46pm |
re: #395 Cannadian Club Akbar
Are they showing Torre?
they will
after steriods.
But the BoSox win will be the best part imho
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:09:20pm |
re: #396 Mr Pancakes
Dude... get a life.
His mom is very ill. I don't think she's expected to live very long.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:10:58pm |
re: #400 reine.de.tout
Oh, it's okay. Our (perhaps) final goodbye was freakin' funny.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:11:05pm |
re: #399 Stanley Sea
they will
after steriods.
But the BoSox win will be the best part imho
OK. Not the same here. I could sit and watch Ken Burns Baseball documentry in one sitting. I love baseball.
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:11:37pm |
re: #400 reine.de.tout
His mom is very ill. I don't think she's expected to live very long.
I did not know that....... that was a blindsided hit.
FBV you are in my thoughts.......
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HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:12:18pm |
re: #399 Stanley Sea
they will
after steriods.
But the BoSox win will be the best part imho
How much did they focus on Ripken breaking the streak? Red Sox winning the WS was pretty cool. I won't lie as an Orioles fan/lifetime Yankee hater I got some joy seeing the Yankees choke in the ALCS like that.
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Stanghazi Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:13:06pm |
re: #399 Stanley Sea
they will
after steriods.
But the BoSox win will be the best part imho
Bobby Bonds now
Watch it!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:13:14pm |
re: #393 Mr Pancakes
We had a bawling (at first) goodbye tonight.
After all the drama... I had to come back into her room (she was at home in her bed [hell yeah] to get my stupid car keys.
Was like a sitcom.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:13:34pm |
re: #407 HappyWarrior
How much did they focus on Ripken breaking the streak? Red Sox winning the WS was pretty cool. I won't lie as an Orioles fan/lifetime Yankee hater I got some joy seeing the Yankees choke in the ALCS like that.
My Rays won tonight 5-0 to make the playoffs. I also hate the Yankees.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:14:10pm |
re: #309 reine.de.tout
Oh, hell.
I remember when Harvest Gold and Avocado Green were everywhere.
Everything was one or the other.
OMG OMG OMG OMG
My first kitchen had Harvest Gold appliances and Black Walnut cabinets. Oh, and I had the Corelle dinnerware in the Yellow and Avocado patterns.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:14:12pm |
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:14:31pm |
re: #409 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
We had a bawling (at first) goodbye tonight.
After all the drama... I had to come back into her room (she was at home in her bed [hell yeah] to get my stupid car keys.
Was like a sitcom.
Hang in there dude....... just go with the flow...... she knows you love her.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:15:29pm |
re: #411 Cannadian Club Akbar
My Rays won tonight 5-0 to make the playoffs. I also hate the Yankees.
Yep, I'm going to be rooting for the Rays. Hard not to root for those guys even if I was heckling Evan Longoria by calling him Eva at the game in Baltimore earlier this month. And David Price is just an awesome pitcher. Think he will win Cy Young over Sabathia or so I hope.
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b_sharp Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:15:29pm |
re: #390 reine.de.tout
Mine too, 2 1/2 years now.
And I still feel the pain, whenever I think of her.
It never really goes away. It dulls somewhat, but it will come back at the oddest times.
My mother died in '95 of cancer. It only took about 3 months.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:15:39pm |
re: #413 Alouette
OMG OMG OMG OMG
My first kitchen had Harvest Gold appliances and Black Walnut cabinets. Oh, and I had the Corelle dinnerware in the Yellow and Avocado patterns.
OMG, Corelle! I had the Corelle with the green leaves around the edges.
Eventually got rid of it 'cause I thought it looked cheap, now I'm thinking about going back to it.
It doesn't chip, it doesn't crack.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:16:07pm |
re: #393 Mr Pancakes
(btw... sometimes an upding is a show of support)....
I told my mom a joke this morning... actually read it, and she spit food...
WHICH, makes me think I might see her again.
let me find the joke. fucking hysterical.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:16:20pm |
re: #417 b_sharp
It never really goes away. It dulls somewhat, but it will come back at the oddest times.
My mother died in '95 of cancer. It only took about 3 months.
My mom was diagnosed December 17, 2007. Died December 31, 2007. Fourteen days.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:17:28pm |
re: #416 HappyWarrior
I think the baseball writers hatred for the Yanks will give Price a shot at the Cy.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:18:44pm |
AHEM... THE LAST REAL JOKE (I THINK) I TOLD MY MOTHER.
"There I was sitting at the bar staring at my drink when a large, trouble-making
biker steps up next to me, grabs my drink and gulps it down in one swig.Well, whatcha gonna do about it?" he says, menacingly, as I burst into tears.
Come on, man," the biker says, "I didn't think you'd CRY. I can't stand to
see a grown man crying."This is the worst day of my life," I say. "I'm a complete failure. I was
late to a meeting and my boss fired me. When I went to the parking lot, I found
my car had been stolen and I don't have any insurance. I left my wallet in the
cab I took home. I found my old lady in bed with the gardener, and then my dog
bit me.""So I came to this bar to work up the courage to put an end to it all. I buy a
drink; I drop a capsule in and sit here watching the arsenic dissolve. Then some
jack-ass shows up and drinks the whole thing! But enough about me, how's your
day going?""
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:20:12pm |
re: #422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
NOW THAT'S FUNNY!!!
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b_sharp Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:20:42pm |
re: #420 reine.de.tout
My mom was diagnosed December 17, 2007. Died December 31, 2007. Fourteen days.
That would have been a horrible shock. My mother had breast cancer in '72 so we knew it could come back. When it did come back, it metastasized quickly so we knew it would be fatal but the three months gave us time to prepare for her death.
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:20:43pm |
re: #420 reine.de.tout
My mom was diagnosed December 17, 2007. Died December 31, 2007. Fourteen days.
My mom died the day we attacked Iraq...... March 20th 2003.
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Mr Pancakes Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:21:37pm |
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Stanghazi Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:24:21pm |
re: #418 reine.de.tout
OMG, Corelle! I had the Corelle with the green leaves around the edges.
Eventually got rid of it 'cause I thought it looked cheap, now I'm thinking about going back to it.
It doesn't chip, it doesn't crack.
Reine, Corelle (from a garage sale) is my everyday. It's indestructible, and awfully retro!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:26:29pm |
re: #320 Cannadian Club Akbar
OT- Props to the Tampa Bay Rays for making the playoffs. Carry on.
Oh crap! I was thinking Bucs!
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:26:57pm |
re: #424 b_sharp
That would have been a horrible shock. My mother had breast cancer in '72 so we knew it could come back. When it did come back, it metastasized quickly so we knew it would be fatal but the three months gave us time to prepare for her death.
re: #425 Mr Pancakes
My mom died the day we attacked Iraq... March 20th 2003.
re: #426 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That's the way to go.
I knew she was dying, it was obvious.
It was still physically painful when it happened. I hurt from my neck all the way down to my toes.
And there are still moments I wish I could call her.
FBV - You have some moments with your mom, please cherish them. There was a lot going on at the time my mom was sick - I had a stupid drug-addicted, drug-addled brother to deal with, and during those 14 days, my dad fell and broke his hip and had surgery. It was all very distracting. I wish I'd had some quiet time - if you have it, cherish it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:27:15pm |
re: #429 Stanley Sea
Reine, Corelle (from a garage sale) is my everyday. It's indestructible, and awfully retro!
Used it TODAY!
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b_sharp Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:28:36pm |
re: #431 reine.de.tout
re: #425 Mr Pancakes
re: #426 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I knew she was dying, it was obvious.
It was still physically painful when it happened. I hurt from my neck all the way down to my toes.
And there are still moments I wish I could call her.FBV - You have some moments with your mom, please cherish them. There was a lot going on at the time my mom was sick - I had a stupid drug-addicted, drug-addled brother to deal with, and during those 14 days, my dad fell and broke his hip and had surgery. It was all very distracting. I wish I'd had some quiet time - if you have it, cherish it.
{{reine}}
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:29:40pm |
re: #429 Stanley Sea
Reine, Corelle (from a garage sale) is my everyday. It's indestructible, and awfully retro!
It is indestructible, I discovered that.
I think I'm going to go ahead and buy a set - I've had this set in my Amazon wish list for ages now, I think I'm going to go ahead and get it.
Thanks for the push!
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Stanghazi Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:31:24pm |
Who is watching the 10th inning?
very interesting steroid time
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reine.de.tout Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:31:45pm |
re: #433 b_sharp
{{reine}}
{{b-sharp}}
All of us here with our sad stories. I didn't mean to go off on that tangent. I'm still angry with the brother; and then Dad died 4 months later, that was actually a bit of a blessing, he had some sort of dementia. But Mom - I thought she'd outlive Dad, and then she and I could do some things I wanted to do with her, that she couldn't do while taking care of Dad. Ah, hell.
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Stanghazi Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:32:34pm |
Who wouldn't take a pill to make more money and make themselves better at their job? Everyone would.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:35:33pm |
re: #437 reine.de.tout
I've had a strange anger that only appeared this weekend.
Mom is 72.
Her mom died at 87. Oldest Aunt died at 85.
Never occurred to me she'd pass before I was much older.
Honestly? I'm fucking furious.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:36:51pm |
re: #438 Stanley Sea
Who wouldn't take a pill to make more money and make themselves better at their job? Everyone would.
It's easy to sit there and say you'd like to have more money. And I guess that's what I like about it. It's easy. Just sitting there, rocking back and forth, wanting that money.
-Jack Handy
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b_sharp Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:39:07pm |
re: #439 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I've had a strange anger that only appeared this weekend.
Mom is 72.
Her mom died at 87. Oldest Aunt died at 85.
Never occurred to me she'd pass before I was much older.
Honestly? I'm fucking furious.
I understand. Sometimes it just isn't fair. Sometimes we just don't get the time we need with them.
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Eclectic Infidel Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:00:58pm |
re: #39 Stanley Sea
I didn't know SF was a "sanctuary city" ???
Yup. For the illegals here. A father was killed a couple years back by an illegal immigrant and later it was discovered that the SFPD have their hands tied - apparently they're not supposed to report illegals to ICE. Lovely, huh? Can thank the cretins on the SF Board of Sups for that one.
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ClaudeMonet Tue, Sep 28, 2010 11:13:08pm |
re: #119 brookly red
"I shall fear no evil, for I am the meanest sonofabitch in the valley"...
My father (a native of NYC) was a mid-level executive in the trucking industry, and he had that on a poster behind his desk for most of his career. He wasn't really mean, but within his business, he was known as tough and fair. Even the Teamsters trusted him, for a management guy.
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