Christine O’Donnell Falsely Claims to Have Studied at Claremont Graduate School

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Wow. Another false claim has been discovered on Christine O’Donnell’s education resumé: Christine O’Donnell Lies About Attending Claremont Graduate University.

A new report late tonight suggests O’Donnell did not attend Claremont Graduate University as she indicated.

Gary Scott, a radio producer in Los Angeles and longtime political reporter and editor, uncovered tonight on his blog that O’Donnell does not seem to have attended the Southern California school.

From Scott’s report:

The same resume lists O’Donnell as having attended Claremont Graduate University in Claremont, California. The claim seemed suspicious since O’Donnell had yet to receive her undergraduate degree, from Farleigh Dickinson University, until last summer. So I asked CGU’s public relations officer, Rod Leveque, if the school had any record of O’Donnell attending classes there. His response: In short, no. Claremont Graduate University has no student or education record for an individual named Christine O’Donnell. In 2002, O’Donnell was listed as a “Lincoln Fellow” at the Claremont Institute, a conservative think tank also based in Claremont. However, the institute is not affiliated with the Claremont Graduate University or any of the other Claremont Colleges. One of the Claremont Institute’s fellows, Harry Jaffa, did teach at the Claremont Graduate University back when it was known as Claremont Graduate School.

TPM also reached the university spokesman Leveque.

He tells us:

Claremont Graduate University has no student or education record for an individual named Christine O’Donnell.

Earlier today:
Christine O’Donnell Falsely Claims to Have Studied at Oxford

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375 comments
1 palomino  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:57:13pm

But Obama never released his college records. How do we know for sure that he went to Harvard, or even studied law?

For all we know, he went to 5 different colleges and studied sports broadcasting.

2 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 8:58:16pm

re: #1 palomino

But Obama never released his college records. How do we know for sure that he went to Harvard, or even studied law?

For all we know, he went to 5 different colleges and studied sports broadcasting.

He attended the schools he claimed to.
Angle, not so much.

3 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:00:01pm

re: #2 Killgore Trout

Angle, not so much.


O'Donnell.
/I got my nuts mixed up again.
//ouch

4 palomino  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:01:20pm

re: #2 Killgore Trout

He attended the schools he claimed to.
Angle, not so much.

Who could ever disagree that, in terms of qualifications for the presidency, a degree from Idaho in TV journalism is just as valuable as a law degree from Harvard?

Guess that makes me an elitist. If so, I'm proud of it.

5 Political Atheist  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:01:20pm

With apologies in advance to my friend in Claremont...

If you are going to falsify educational credentials why would you pick Claremont?

6 darthstar  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:03:53pm

Speaking of education:

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Tuesday vetoed a bill seeking to prevent a revised social studies curriculum approved in Texas from being taught in the nation's largest public school system.

The state Board of Education already has an adequate curriculum review process, and a further layer of scrutiny would be "duplicative and unnecessary," Schwarzenegger said in his veto message.

The bill, SB1451, would have required the board to look out for any of the Texas content as part of its standard practice of reviewing public school textbooks, and then submit its findings to the Legislature.

The Texas school board adopted standards in May asserting that the country's Founding Fathers were guided by Christian principles. The changes also minimize Thomas Jefferson's role in world and U.S. history because he advocated the separation of church and state, and require that students learn about "the unintended consequences" of affirmative action and Title IX, the federal law that bans gender discrimination in education programs and activities.


Read more: [Link: www.sacbee.com...]

/facepalm

7 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:04:38pm

But I thought she never lies!

8 Political Atheist  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:05:07pm

re: #6 darthstar

Awshit.

9 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:05:21pm

What's next, her claim she was a war veteran of Vietnam?

10 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:05:42pm

Seriously?
Do these people think they can just lie with impunity?
Dangerously stupid.

11 darthstar  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:06:20pm

re: #7 LudwigVanQuixote

But I thought she never lies!

She says she'd never lie to Hitler. She didn't say she wouldn't lie to the voters.

12 elizajane  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:06:30pm

Give the woman credit: She's an equal opportunity, intercontinental liar.

13 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:06:53pm

re: #7 LudwigVanQuixote

Hey! Missed you!
Hope all is well!

14 b_sharp  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:07:03pm

re: #3 Killgore Trout

O'Donnell.
/I got my nuts mixed up again.
//ouch

Getting your nuts mixed up must hurt like a bugger.

15 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:09:35pm

re: #5 Rightwingconspirator

With apologies in advance to my friend in Claremont...

If you are going to falsify educational credentials why would you pick Claremont?

1. Good school.

2. Not so well known that people are necessarily gonna check. At first.

16 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:11:10pm

re: #9 NJDhockeyfan

What's next, her claim she was a war veteran of Vietnam?

There's some movie where an irate middle-aged man glares at a young bum with a 'Vietnam Vet' sign and screams "What were you? A drummer boy?"

17 Henchman 25  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:12:30pm

Hey, another wingnut lying. Who'da thunk it? :P

18 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:13:40pm

re: #17 SteelPH

Hey, another wingnut lying. Who'da thunk it? :P

She's matching the Dems.

19 Randall Gross  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:16:16pm

Claremont fellows... hrmm thought that it was part of that FCF Weyrich orbit but I might be mistaken. While O'Donnell was at CI, Robert Spencer was at Weyrich's Free Congress Foundation, also I can't recall if I saw him listed as fellow at Claremont Institute or at Heritage, and googling is getting me nowhere.

20 Stanghazi  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:16:57pm

Has she EVER WORKED?

21 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:18:11pm

Can someone explain to me why a think-tanker and habitual denizen of "Politically Incorrect" is considered a more in-touch and socially useful person than a 'community organizer'?

22 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:19:22pm

re: #21 SanFranciscoZionist

No, I can't.

23 Gus  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:19:51pm

Christine O'Donnell

Faux Oxford University Graduate
Faux Claremont Graduate School Graduate
Anti-Masturbation Zealot
Witch
Homosexuality Expert
Post-Virginity Loss Virgin
Mouse/Human Hybrid Expert
Evolution Expert
Former Dorm Queen
Satanist Dater

24 darthstar  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:20:52pm

re: #21 SanFranciscoZionist

Can someone explain to me why a think-tanker and habitual denizen of "Politically Incorrect" is considered a more in-touch and socially useful person than a 'community organizer'?

boobz?

25 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:20:57pm

re: #21 SanFranciscoZionist

Can someone explain to me why a think-tanker and habitual denizen of "Politically Incorrect" is considered a more in-touch and socially useful person than a 'community organizer'?

Because Tea Party, Cloward Piven, Socialistic Fascism, New World Order!
/Sorry, too much fluoride in my water tonight

26 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:20:59pm

re: #22 Floral Giraffe

No, I can't.

That's OK. I just thought I'd throw it out there.

BTW, my pathologically anti-political husband--who can identify O'Donnell as 'the non-masturbating witch'--thought it would be funnier if she'd been caught masturbating.

27 TedStriker  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:21:28pm

re: #21 SanFranciscoZionist

Can someone explain to me why a think-tanker and habitual denizen of "Politically Incorrect" is considered a more in-touch and socially useful person than a 'community organizer'?

Nope...can't think of a damn thing. To use another anti-Obama point back against the wingnuts, has O'Donnell ever had a "real" job?

28 darthstar  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:22:38pm

re: #26 SanFranciscoZionist

That's OK. I just thought I'd throw it out there.

BTW, my pathologically anti-political husband--who can identify O'Donnell as 'the non-masturbating witch'--thought it would be funnier if she'd been caught masturbating.

I just want the videos of her having sex on a bloody altar get released soon. It'll be fun watching the family values people explain that one away.

29 Stanghazi  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:23:21pm

re: #23 Gus 802

Christine O'Donnell

Faux Oxford University Graduate
Faux Claremont Graduate School Graduate
Anti-Masturbation Zealot
Witch
Homosexuality Expert
Post-Virginity Loss Virgin
Mouse/Human Hybrid Expert
Evolution Expert
Former Dorm Queen
Satanist Dater

And what America needs in the Senate.

gah

30 efuseakay  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:24:11pm
O'DONNELL: You never have to practice deception. God always provides a way out.

LOL

31 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:24:32pm

re: #28 darthstar

I just want the videos of her having sex on a bloody altar get released soon. It'll be fun watching the family values people explain that one away.

That sounds nasty. Why would you want to see a video like that?

32 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:25:27pm

re: #29 Stanley Sea

And what America needs in the Senate.

gah

I'd sort of made a deal with fate that I wouldn't whine too much about any November losses as long as Sharon Angle didn't make it into the Senate. Now I sort of want to include O'Donnell in that as well. Is that too much to ask? Just that they don't get elected?

33 Stanghazi  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:26:02pm

re: #31 NJDhockeyfan

That sounds nasty. Why would you want to see a video like that?

politicalporn the best type for me.

34 sagehen  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:26:15pm

Cecil Sagehen says, Claremont is way out of Christine's league.

Image: 03-PPfootball.jpg

35 Haikugoalie  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:26:26pm

Sorbonne, Yale, Oxford,
Harvard and MIT too.......
I can spell them all

36 Gus  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:27:19pm

Christine O'Donnell took the Pew Research religion test.

She got them all wrong.

/Probably true.

/

37 Stanghazi  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:28:01pm

re: #32 SanFranciscoZionist

I'd sort of made a deal with fate that I wouldn't whine too much about any November losses as long as Sharon Angle didn't make it into the Senate. Now I sort of want to include O'Donnell in that as well. Is that too much to ask? Just that they don't get elected?

Add Joe Miller - hates the government, cept when it paid for his education and 38K Alaska yearly pay out.

not too much to ask. GAH

38 sagehen  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:28:47pm

re: #5 Rightwingconspirator

With apologies in advance to my friend in Claremont...

If you are going to falsify educational credentials why would you pick Claremont?

Because the Claremont College are excellent. It's Ivy League without snow.

Image: 03-PPfootball.jpg

39 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:29:05pm

re: #26 SanFranciscoZionist

It would have been funnier, but would have also required the ENTIRE WORLD SUPPLY of brain bleach, to erase the images. And, thus would not have been worth it. I like your husbands sense of humor/sickness, though...
You picked a good one!

40 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:29:10pm

I will bet she fails this:

[Link: pewresearch.org...]

By the way, the fact that these are even the questions they chose is depressing. Very few are conceptual or demonstrate any real knowledge other than trivia.

Yet, only 10% of Americans got all 12.

Honestly most of these questions are the sort you would ask an educated person after they were hit in the head, to see if they were ok.

This makes me very sad for their comparative religion poll.

41 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:29:31pm

I am truly thankful for Carly Fiorina. I'm not going to vote for her, and I hope she doesn't win, but despite her unstellar business history and that crazy sheep ad, she is a person of infinitely greater gravitas than Angle and O'Donnell PUT TOGETHER.

42 darthstar  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:30:10pm

re: #31 NJDhockeyfan

That sounds nasty. Why would you want to see a video like that?

It's the American way.

43 darthstar  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:30:28pm
44 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:31:06pm

re: #42 darthstar

It's the American way.

I don't know anyone who wants to see bloody porn like that. You are a sick puppy.

45 Political Atheist  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:31:12pm

re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist

Thank You!

Just for that a little comedy break, if I may...

46 Gus  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:31:28pm

This is good:

The Old Adventures Of New Christine

ThinkProgress has put together a document compiling what we know about Delaware GOP Senate nominee Christine O’Donnell in her own words. Here are the issues:

Chapters include!

*SEX AND RELATIONSHIPS
*WOMEN
*HOMOSEXUALITY
*SCIENCE
*TRUTH
*GOD AND RELIGION
*PROGRESSIVES
*HER CAMPAIGN
*CONSPIRACY THEORIES
*THE ECONOMY
*MODERN CULTURE
*FOREIGN POLICY

47 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:32:01pm

Goodnight, all.

48 Gus  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:32:12pm

re: #46 Gus 802

This is good:

The Old Adventures Of New Christine

Chapters include!

ON CONSPIRACY THEORIES

O’Donnell warned then Sen. Joe Biden had pushed a U.N. ‘global tax.’ “[Biden]’s refusing to allow the people of Delaware to hold him accountable for things such as the global tax that he pushed through the Senate Foreign Relations Committee without a public hearing, something as serious as the United Nations taxing America’s GNP should certainly have a public hearing.” [Larry King Live, 8/27/08]

O’Donnell wanted to investigate President Clinton for murder. The
1996 suicide of Deputy White House Counsel Vince Foster promoted right-wing conspiracy theories that Clinton was somehow culpable. O’Donnell bought the theories, saying on C-SPAN, “we’re not giving the case of Vincent Foster a fair trial — when there is a lot more empirical evidence that Clinton is involved in wrongdoing.” [TPM, 9/16/10]

O’Donnell believes in death panels. Speaking at the Values Voters Summit in September 2010, O’Donnell warned that “unelected panels of bureaucrats [will] decide who gets what life-saving medical care and who is just too old or it’s too expensive to be worth saving.” [CSPAN, 9/17/10]

O’Donnell called the Supreme Court a ‘constitutional monarchy.’ “It’s kind of like we have the nine people sitting there in Washington who have a constitutional monarchy and that is an abuse of the system but that’s the way that they push their agenda. And, if you’ll also notice, with all of these cases it’s a few people, a few people who oppose the masses.” [Savage Nation, 5/24/03]

49 Stanghazi  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:33:46pm

re: #44 NJDhockeyfan

I don't know anyone who wants to see bloody porn like that. You are a sick puppy.

don't get on your high horse, mr. who posts every single islamic atrocity on lgf.

vapors

50 Gus  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:34:04pm

ON WOMEN

O’Donnell believes the proper role of a woman is to ’submit’ to her husband. ”This is not about merely a Baptist doctrine. This is a biblical doctrine. And the passage from the Bible the Baptist article is taken from talks about a submissive family. And yet, what the media seems to be reacting to is the word “submit” in the wives. But yet, even in, Mary, your introduction, you ignored or you left out where it says they graciously submit to a servant leader. And that is God’s design for the family. It is not about dominating and it is not about being a slave to your husband.” [CNN, 6/11/98]

O’Donnell believes women do not enjoy sex, using it only as a means to love. “Women play sex to get love. Men play love to get sex.” [Fox News, 8/2/03]

O’Donnell warned that allowing women to attend military academies ‘cripples the readiness of our defense.’ “By integrating women into particularly military institutes, it cripples the readiness of our defense,” O’Donnell has said. She also argued that West Point “has had to lower their standards … in order for men and women to compete” [Politico, 9/16/10]

O’Donnell believes Sarah Palin is the ‘epitome of a modern woman.’ “She is the epitome of a modern woman. She’s strong, independent and utterly feminine. She makes me so proud to be an American female candidate.” [Gannett News Service, 9/5/08]

O’Donnell believes Roe v. Wade needs to be overturned. “We need to turn the power back to the state. And Roe v. Wade, if it’s overturned, will not make abortion illegal. It will simply return the power back to the state.” [Donahue, 8/27/02]

51 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:35:43pm

re: #31 NJDhockeyfan

That sounds nasty. Why would you want to see a video like that?

Because it will sink her career and make a laughing stock out of the teabags. You don't seem to be paying attention.

52 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:35:56pm

re: #49 Stanley Sea

don't get on your high horse, mr. who posts every single islamic atrocity on lgf.

vapors

Well he is very concerned....

53 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:36:40pm

re: #49 Stanley Sea

don't get on your high horse, mr. who posts every single islamic atrocity on lgf.

vapors

You mean stuff like this?

Eight Algerians arrested over terror threat

EIGHT Algerians were arrested amid an operation to thwart a major Mumbai-style terrorist attack in Europe, a senior US intelligence source told Fox News Channel.

Intelligence agencies intercepted the terror plot which would have seen attacks on London and other major European cities, Sky News reported, citing security sources.

Suspected al Qaeda militants based in Pakistan were feared to be planning simultaneous atrocities on England, Germany and France. Fox reported security was recently increased at airports across the continent.

The United States was also a possible target of the plot and President Barack Obama was briefed about the threat, ABC News reported, citing American officials.

54 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:37:35pm

re: #50 Gus 802

ON WOMEN

O’Donnell believes women do not enjoy sex, using it only as a means to love. “Women play sex to get love. Men play love to get sex.”

I thought so. If someone would just give that crazy woman a cookie, she would see the world in much more happy terms. Poor thing is pushing 40 and never had an orgasm.

55 Stanghazi  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:39:26pm

re: #50 Gus 802

ON WOMEN

She hasn't had sex for 20 years.

That's all I need to comprehend. She's fucked up.

56 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:39:44pm
“By integrating women into particularly military institutes, it cripples the readiness of our defense,” O’Donnell has said. She also argued that West Point “has had to lower their standards … in order for men and women to compete”


Hmmm... And she considers herself a modern woman like Palin?

I'm really serious that if someone just gave that crazy broad a cookie, she might get better.

57 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:40:40pm

re: #54 LudwigVanQuixote

I thought so. If someone would just give that crazy woman a cookie, she would see the world in much more happy terms. Poor thing is pushing 40 and never had an orgasm.

Or, she has them all the time, but saying so doesn't fit into her political/ideological script. I don't believe more than half of what most people say about sex, anyway.

58 Gus  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:40:44pm

re: #55 Stanley Sea

She hasn't had sex for 20 years.

That's all I need to comprehend. She's fucked up.

That's what she say of course. Given that it's already proven that she's a liar one has to wonder if that's even true. She's probably an all around fraud.

59 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:40:51pm

re: #55 Stanley Sea

She hasn't had sex for 20 years.

That's all I need to comprehend. She's fucked up.

That was your first clue? :)

60 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:43:17pm

re: #49 Stanley Sea

don't get on your high horse, mr. who posts every single islamic atrocity on lgf.

vapors

You're not the one having "vapors" BTW....

61 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:44:14pm

re: #57 SanFranciscoZionist

Or, she has them all the time

I meant without a mechanical aid.

I have a very hard time believing that. Seriously, people who have orgasms from sex don't question why people want to do it.

but saying so doesn't fit into her political/ideological script.

Well in my circles, you can sort of tell the difference between the riligious women who say that sex is really wonderful (with a husband etc... etc...) and those that say fireworks shmireworks....

I don't believe more than half of what most people say about sex, anyway.

I frequently find what they don't say to be even more telling.

62 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:44:22pm

re: #55 Stanley Sea

She hasn't had sex for 20 years.

That's all I need to comprehend. She's NOTfucked up.

FTFY....

63 Stanghazi  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:44:42pm

re: #59 LudwigVanQuixote

That was your first clue? :)

A very important one....

64 blueraven  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:46:17pm

re: #40 LudwigVanQuixote

I will bet she fails this:

[Link: pewresearch.org...]

By the way, the fact that these are even the questions they chose is depressing. Very few are conceptual or demonstrate any real knowledge other than trivia.

Yet, only 10% of Americans got all 12.

Honestly most of these questions are the sort you would ask an educated person after they were hit in the head, to see if they were ok.

This makes me very sad for their comparative religion poll.

Well I am really surprised. I just took the test and got all 12 correct. I dont think I am particularly well versed in science, so it is sad that only 10 percent get all 12. OK I admit to guessing on the Laser question, but it was a 50/50 chance!

65 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:48:30pm

re: #55 Stanley Sea

She hasn't had sex for 20 years.

That's all I need to comprehend. She's fucked up.

Also, apparently no Jilling off either. Gotta be pent up tighter than the Grand Cooley by now.

In a way I find this to be the most plausible thing about her.

66 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:49:09pm

re: #64 blueraven

Well I am really surprised. I just took the test and got all 12 correct. I dont think I am particularly well versed in science, so it is sad that only 10 percent get all 12. OK I admit to guessing on the Laser question, but it was a 50/50 chance!

I got all twelve correct, which is a pretty good indicator that most people should have!

(I actually know a bissel about world religions. Science, I don't know from unless I read it in the New York Times.)

67 reine.de.tout  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:49:32pm

re: #40 LudwigVanQuixote

I will bet she fails this:

[Link: pewresearch.org...]

By the way, the fact that these are even the questions they chose is depressing. Very few are conceptual or demonstrate any real knowledge other than trivia.

Yet, only 10% of Americans got all 12.

Honestly most of these questions are the sort you would ask an educated person after they were hit in the head, to see if they were ok.

This makes me very sad for their comparative religion poll.

I got all 12 right.
But yes, the questions were very basic.
Incredible that only 10% get them all right.

68 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:50:32pm

re: #40 LudwigVanQuixote

I will bet she fails this:

[Link: pewresearch.org...]

By the way, the fact that these are even the questions they chose is depressing. Very few are conceptual or demonstrate any real knowledge other than trivia.

Yet, only 10% of Americans got all 12.

Honestly most of these questions are the sort you would ask an educated person after they were hit in the head, to see if they were ok.

This makes me very sad for their comparative religion poll.

WOW!
I got all of them correct.
And, I do NOT consider myself particularly well educated in science.
But, I do read LGF regularly.

69 angel Graham  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:50:35pm

re: #40 LudwigVanQuixote

I will bet she fails this:

[Link: pewresearch.org...]

By the way, the fact that these are even the questions they chose is depressing. Very few are conceptual or demonstrate any real knowledge other than trivia.

Yet, only 10% of Americans got all 12.

Honestly most of these questions are the sort you would ask an educated person after they were hit in the head, to see if they were ok.

This makes me very sad for their comparative religion poll.

I got all 12 right. Cool.

70 Gus  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:51:58pm

Look! A school of fish!

TSUNAMI!

/

71 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:52:00pm

re: #64 blueraven

Well I am really surprised. I just took the test and got all 12 correct. I dont think I am particularly well versed in science, so it is sad that only 10 percent get all 12. OK I admit to guessing on the Laser question, but it was a 50/50 chance!

Yeah, respectfully, it is sort of my point. There were almost know real questions.

It would be like a history quiz that asked things like "The 13 colonies used to be ruled by (Britain, Germany, China, France) as a standard question and "who won the battle of Gettysburg?" as a hard one.

The religious quiz was pathetic also.

was Maimonides Jewish... Do Buddhists strive for Nirvana... Was Brigham Young a Mormon....

Stupid all the way around.

In all cases not a single real question and still only a few percent could answer them all.

72 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:52:09pm

re: #64 blueraven

Well I am really surprised. I just took the test and got all 12 correct. I dont think I am particularly well versed in science, so it is sad that only 10 percent get all 12. OK I admit to guessing on the Laser question, but it was a 50/50 chance!

I just took the test and got all 12 correct. I am smarter than a 5th grader!

73 reine.de.tout  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:52:14pm

re: #64 blueraven

re: #66 SanFranciscoZionist

re: #68 Floral Giraffe

Y'all know, of course, the typical person here, regardless of political orientation, is a person interested in information, and so it's not at all surprising that we're getting these right, even those of us who, like me, are not one bit science oriented.

74 blueraven  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:52:17pm

We are the top 10%ers...or something!

75 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:52:53pm

re: #66 SanFranciscoZionist

I got all twelve correct, which is a pretty good indicator that most people should have!

(I actually know a bissel about world religions. Science, I don't know from unless I read it in the New York Times.)

You would be "shocked" to find the religion test analogously basic and stupid.

76 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:53:31pm

re: #71 LudwigVanQuixote

PIMF

Yeah, respectfully, it is sort of my point. There were almost no real questions.

It would be like a history quiz that asked things like "The 13 colonies used to be ruled by (Britain, Germany, China, France) as a standard question and "who won the battle of Gettysburg?" as a hard one.

The religious quiz was pathetic also.

was Maimonides Jewish... Do Buddhists strive for Nirvana... Was Brigham Young a Mormon...

Stupid all the way around.

In all cases not a single real question and still only a few percent could answer them all.

77 reine.de.tout  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:53:39pm

re: #74 blueraven

We are the top 10%ers...or something!

See:
re: #73 reine.de.tout

And yes, mostly the folks here are going to be in the top . . .something.
(but shhhh! Keep it quiet, don't say much more than that, there are folks whose heads will explode)

78 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:54:24pm

re: #72 NJDhockeyfan

I just took the test and got all 12 correct. I am smarter than a 5th grader!

But not one from Japan, China, Israel, France, Germany or Britain.

79 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:55:30pm

re: #78 LudwigVanQuixote

But not one from Japan, China, Israel, France, Germany or Britain.

Oh, I've met some of the products of Britain's schools...

80 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:55:40pm

re: #78 LudwigVanQuixote

But not one from Japan, China, Israel, France, Germany or Britain.

They got more than 12 correct?

81 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:56:03pm

re: #79 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, I've met some of the products of Britain's schools...

Do tell!

82 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:56:15pm

re: #79 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, I've met some of the products of Britain's schools...

Although, now that I've said that, what floats up in my head is the scene in the second Bridget Jones book, when her ex says he left her because you can't love a person who doesn't know where Germany is.

83 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:57:01pm

re: #81 NJDhockeyfan

Do tell!

I lived in London for about a year. Their educational programs are all over the place, some fabulous and some totally lousy.

84 blueraven  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 9:57:22pm

Did you all check the demographic stats. Even college grads averaged 9.5 correct questions on that simple quiz!

We are in deep shit.

85 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:00:27pm

Cubs win! Cubs win! Cubs win!

86 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:03:07pm

re: #73 reine.de.tout

re: #66 SanFranciscoZionist

re: #68 Floral Giraffe

Y'all know, of course, the typical person here, regardless of political orientation, is a person interested in information, and so it's not at all surprising that we're getting these right, even those of us who, like me, are not one bit science oriented.

We read LGF! And, learn... So it's just not shocking that we're in the top 10% of those taking the quiz. And, I agree, about being interested in learning. A lifelong pleasure for me.

87 sagehen  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:03:40pm

re: #85 NJDhockeyfan

Cubs win! Cubs win! Cubs win!

I'm not a huge baseball fan, but I'm a fan of the fans -- Cubs fans' unrelenting optimism in the face of all evidence is such an inspiration.

88 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:03:41pm

re: #83 SanFranciscoZionist

I lived in London for about a year. Their educational programs are all over the place, some fabulous and some totally lousy.

But for primary school, still on average, better than ours.

BTW about the science quiz, who cares if Pluto, got re-classified from a planet or not. That is not knowledge. It doesn't really tell you anything about Pluto. It is stamp collecting.

Knowing that lasers focus light and not sound waves is a better question, because that at leaste gets to some sort of actual knowledge, but even then it is a bad question. A laser does a lot more than focus light. You can do that with a plain old lens. Actually, asking about stimulated emission of photons is actual knowledge.

My point is that if you got less than 10 of those you are either having a very bad night or should hang your head in shame. It is sort of like congratulating yourself for being able to tie your shoes.

Now with that in mind, consider that most people only got about half of them, and that is a measure of where America is in terms of science education.

The same goes for history, literature and comparative religion. The anti-intellectualism of America has produced a nation of lazy boobs whose knowledge base only rivals a hard working moron.

Of course, how else could anyone take someone like O'Donnel or Palin seriously?

89 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:04:53pm

re: #84 blueraven

Did you all check the demographic stats. Even college grads averaged 9.5 correct questions on that simple quiz!

We are in deep shit.

Some of the questions were unfairly liberal though, what with the conspiracy and all. Continents haven't been moving around for millions of years, because the Earth is only six thousand years old - word! As proof I offer this ancient artist's rendering of Bea Arthur wrestling a velociraptor.

90 JamesWI  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:05:22pm

re: #55 Stanley Sea

She hasn't had sex for 20 years.

That's all I need to comprehend. She's fucked up.

Of course, you are making the mistake of actually trusting her when she says that. These recent, blatant lies about her education seem to caution against that.

Plus, recent history seems to show that the ultra-right politicians/religious figures who preach the loudest about how horrible/sinful some sexual act/orientation is, the more likely they are to be doing it themselves.

91 Surabaya Stew  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:06:30pm

re: #64 blueraven

Well I am really surprised. I just took the test and got all 12 correct. I dont think I am particularly well versed in science, so it is sad that only 10 percent get all 12. OK I admit to guessing on the Laser question, but it was a 50/50 chance!

Just took it myself, got 11/12. Must have screwed up on the laser question!
:-D

92 Stanghazi  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:07:49pm

re: #90 JamesWI

Of course, you are making the mistake of actually trusting her when she says that. These recent, blatant lies about her education seem to caution against that.

Plus, recent history seems to show that the ultra-right politicians/religious figures who preach the loudest about how horrible/sinful some sexual act/orientation is, the more likely they are to be doing it themselves.

Cannot wait for the reveal so to say. Hatethehypocrites.com (I just made it up, it prob exists)

93 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:08:14pm

re: #88 LudwigVanQuixote

Or, that we fail to teach the process of learning in our schools. There is only so much "book learning" that can be taught to a child. At a certain point, for education to be successful, you have to have the child actively pursuing their interests, whatever they may be. You have then opened the gateway for that child. And bettered society along the way.

94 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:08:21pm

re: #90 JamesWI

Of course, you are making the mistake of actually trusting her when she says that. These recent, blatant lies about her education seem to caution against that.

Plus, recent history seems to show that the ultra-right politicians/religious figures who preach the loudest about how horrible/sinful some sexual act/orientation is, the more likely they are to be doing it themselves with prostitutes, rent boys, random folks in public restrooms, mistresses, lovers and other adulterous affairs...and in the case of the Church, frequently small boys

FTFY

95 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:08:47pm

re: #87 sagehen

I'm not a huge baseball fan, but I'm a fan of the fans -- Cubs fans' unrelenting optimism in the face of all evidence is such an inspiration.

Cubs are dead Jim.

96 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:09:04pm

re: #87 sagehen

I'm not a huge baseball fan, but I'm a fan of the fans -- Cubs fans' unrelenting optimism in the face of all evidence is such an inspiration.

Cubs fans are a unique bunch of sports fans. We always know that they will win it all next year!

97 webevintage  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:09:47pm

Has this woman ever told the truth?

98 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:10:08pm

re: #91 Surabaya Stew

Just took it myself, got 11/12. Must have screwed up on the laser question!
:-D

11/12 for me.
Must've been the electron/atom question.
I knew I got it wrong as soon as I clicked it.
Ah well.

99 Surabaya Stew  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:10:24pm

My lovely wife is reminding me from under her covers that its past one o'clock.

Good night!

100 JamesWI  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:10:37pm

re: #94 LudwigVanQuixote

FTFY

Well, I decided for the more subtle approach. Obviously, that doesn't suit you :)

101 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:11:51pm

re: #94 LudwigVanQuixote

Wide stance toe tappers in public restrooms?
BLEECH!

102 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:12:05pm

re: #91 Surabaya Stew

Just took it myself, got 11/12. Must have screwed up on the laser question!
:-D

Also, just to nit pick on a poorly phrased question 4; technically you can launch a loaf of bread into orbit and call it a satellite, but building a functional GPS satellite without magnets would be a fairly neat trick to pull off.

103 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:12:56pm

re: #102 goddamnedfrank

Also, just to nit pick on a poorly phrased question 4; technically you can launch a loaf of bread into orbit and call it a satellite, but building a functional GPS satellite without magnets would be a fairly neat trick to pull off.

Fucking magnets.

104 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:13:23pm

Former union leader Andy Stern investigated

The FBI and the U.S. Labor Department are investigating Andy Stern, the former president of the Service Employees International Union, as part of a corruption probe, according to two union officials who said they were interviewed by federal agents.

Shocka!

105 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:13:29pm

re: #93 Floral Giraffe

Or, that we fail to teach the process of learning in our schools. There is only so much "book learning" that can be taught to a child. At a certain point, for education to be successful, you have to have the child actively pursuing their interests, whatever they may be. You have then opened the gateway for that child. And bettered society along the way.

I hear you, but it isn't even that. There is a lack of knowing even in the test as to what constitutes knowledge.

Knowing that the Civil War was from 1861-1865 is trivia. Knowing about the causes of it and the politics behind it, is knowledge.

Knowing that LASERs use light is trivia. Knowing that light has a wave particle duality - which lasers exploit to operate - is knowledge.

Knowing that the British even had a Civil War is unlikely for most Americans, but it is also trivia to know the dates or even the name Cromwell. Knowing what Parliament and the King were fighting over is knowledge.

Knowing that Maimonides was a great rabbi is trivia. Actually having read Guide for the Perplexed and Mishna Torah and then being able to compare and contrast with Rashi and Ramban is knowledge.

106 blueraven  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:16:01pm

re: #104 NJDhockeyfan

Former union leader Andy Stern investigated

Shocka!

Pretty thin gruel.

107 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:17:29pm

So, GOP, how's it feel to be ruled by teh CraZee?

108 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:18:07pm

re: #106 blueraven

Pretty thin gruel.

There has to be something serious going on for both the FBI and Labor Dept to be investigating him.

109 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:18:09pm

re: #105 LudwigVanQuixote

And you wanted excellence from an on-line Pew poll?
I do like your analysis.

110 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:18:57pm

re: #108 NJDhockeyfan

There has to be something serious going on for both the FBI and Labor Dept to be investigating him.

24 hour rule? Might need 48 to solidify.

111 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:19:46pm

re: #109 Floral Giraffe

And you wanted excellence from an on-line Pew poll?
I do like your analysis.

Excellence no. Not confusing utter mediocrity with actual knowledge, yes. Then finding that half fail at even utter mediocrity and basic trivia, is just depressing.

112 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:20:02pm

re: #110 Floral Giraffe

24 hour rule? Might need 48 to solidify.

I'm up for that.

113 blueraven  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:21:29pm

re: #108 NJDhockeyfan

There has to be something serious going on for both the FBI and Labor Dept to be investigating him.

Who says they are? Anonymous sources? Stern denies that he is being investigated. There is no there, there. Not in that story. Not yet. Wait and see what happens.

114 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:21:53pm

re: #111 LudwigVanQuixote

Here you go...
It's an oldie, but a goodie...

115 Gus  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:22:22pm

'Night all.

116 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:22:54pm

re: #111 LudwigVanQuixote

Excellence no. Not confusing utter mediocrity with actual knowledge, yes. Then finding that half fail at even utter mediocrity and basic trivia, is just depressing.

You're harshing my buzz, man!!!

117 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:23:00pm

re: #115 Gus 802

Sleep tight!

118 blueraven  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:31:33pm

re: #117 Floral Giraffe

Sleep tight!

Don't let the bed bug bite...oh wait

Goodnight all

119 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:34:16pm

Goodnight all.
Long, hard day for me tomorrow.
Be well.
Play nicely, or do beat the heck out of each other.
*smooch* for Ludwig, especially!

120 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:34:19pm

Later lizards. Have a safe and wonderful night.

121 Kragar  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:35:39pm

re: #116 Varek Raith

You're harshing my buzz, man!!!

Your buzz is part of the Islamic Supremacist Agenda!

122 Timmeh  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 10:47:20pm

re: #1 palomino

But Obama never released his college records. How do we know for sure that he went to Harvard, or even studied law?

For all we know, he went to 5 different colleges and studied sports broadcasting.

When a person runs for president, these things tend to come out if they are not true.

123 scienceisreal  Tue, Sep 28, 2010 11:49:23pm

By Christine O'Donnell's standards my CV should say I've attended:

University of Texas
University of Oklahoma
Texas A&M
Stanford
Berkeley
Columbia
Yale
Harvard
Princeton
Cornell
University of Chicago
University of Wisconsin
University of Washington
Duke
University of Kansas
University of Nebraska
Boston University
MIT
University of Colorado
Northwestern
University of Maryland
University of North Carolina

I should really update that.

124 Usually refered to as anyways  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 12:09:52am

Evening,

I know its late, but can some one please tell me what I am missing.

I'm in Australia, and looking at Real Estate in the USA.

I'm looking at this, what are the costs that are not being listed, any help appreciated...

125 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 12:14:19am

re: #104 NJDhockeyfan

Former union leader Andy Stern investigated

Shocka!

Yeah, an investigation into a friend of the President will really go far./

126 boredtechindenver  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 12:30:09am

re: #40 LudwigVanQuixote

I will bet she fails this:

[Link: pewresearch.org...]

Yet, only 10% of Americans got all 12.


WOO HOOO. I am still above average. wooo freaking hooo. 12 for 12.
//

Sheesh, I have to think about multiplication tables now, but that quiz, I didn't have to think more than 2 seconds.

127 Usually refered to as anyways  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 12:32:03am

Please no math.

I've failed maths so many times I can't even count...

128 Cheechako  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 12:35:55am

re: #124 ozbloke

Evening,

I know its late, but can some one please tell me what I am missing.

I'm in Australia, and looking at Real Estate in the USA.

I'm looking at this, what are the costs that are not being listed, any help appreciated...


Since everyone has gone to bed I'll take a stab at answering your question.
The property taxes and condo fees are listed in the ad. You will also need property insurance including hurricane insurance. I would also require a property inspection prior to purchase.
This inspection should look for termites and other bugs, the condition of the roof, any water damage (inside and outside), condition of the structure and foundation, the heating/air-conditioning system, and appliances. These inspections usually run about $500. The buyer will make a condition of the sale that the home pass inspection prior to closing on the sale.

Also note this is a "short sale" which means the
prior owner defaulted on their loan to the bank. The bank has taken possession and has agreed to sell the property for $170,000. One thing to watch for is property owners who "trash" the property prior to turning it over to the bank.

129 Usually refered to as anyways  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 12:43:55am

re: #128 Cheechako

Cheechako,

Thanks for your help.
I won't hold you to anything heh...

The costs you mention would be small compared to the 170k mentioned, am I getting you right?

That seems ridiculously cheap for a property like that...

I live in a small rural town in NSW Australia, and a shit weatherboard (timber) home, 3 bed 1 bath would sell for at least 250k.

I don't get it, our dollar is getting 96 US cents these days, I would love to move to the states, not sure what the requirements would be or if I would meet them. But your real estate sure seems cheap.

Avg house prices where I live have gone from about 80k in 2000 to 250k 2010

Your looking great to me...
Probably not great for investors over the last ten years though...

130 Usually refered to as anyways  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 12:46:08am

Adjust that...

And the Australian dollar has surged to another fresh two year high just above $US97 cents this afternoon

131 Renaissance_Man  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 12:49:59am

re: #130 ozbloke

Adjust that...

And the Australian dollar has surged to another fresh two year high just above $US97 cents this afternoon

That said, mate, there are down sides to living here too. It really is a different world. It's probably cheaper for now, but think long and hard before that sort of step.

132 Usually refered to as anyways  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 12:54:10am

re: #131 Renaissance_Man

That said, mate, there are down sides to living here too. It really is a different world. It's probably cheaper for now, but think long and hard before that sort of step.

I have grown up children in Australia, I don't think I would sell up here altogether.

But I have always wanted to live in the states, don't ask my why I will come up short on answers, if anything comes to mind its opportunity.

I think its the population, if you can have a good product there will be a market. Its not always true for countries with small populations.

That may seem simplified, but I think its the bases of my belief...

133 Cheechako  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 12:56:28am

re: #129 ozbloke

Cheechako,

Thanks for your help.
I won't hold you to anything heh...

The costs you mention would be small compared to the 170k mentioned, am I getting you right?

That seems ridiculously cheap for a property like that...

I live in a small rural town in NSW Australia, and a shit weatherboard (timber) home, 3 bed 1 bath would sell for at least 250k.

I don't get it, our dollar is getting 96 US cents these days, I would love to move to the states, not sure what the requirements would be or if I would meet them. But your real estate sure seems cheap.

Avg house prices where I live have gone from about 80k in 2000 to 250k 2010

Your looking great to me...
Probably not great for investors over the last ten years though...


The only other costs I can think of would be a loan origination fee if you have to finance the property and a one time title insurance policy to protect you if a claim on the title should arise. Many of these costs are included in the loan amount.

You're right, in some areas of the country the home prices have really tumbled due to the banking/real estate crisis. Another area to look at is Las Vegas, Nevada or Phoenix, Arizona. Homes that originally sold for $500,000 and up are going for half price.

It's definitively a "buyer's market" in many areas.

I don't have any idea of how you could immigrate to the U.S.

134 Summer Seale  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 12:57:46am

re: #40 LudwigVanQuixote

I will bet she fails this:

[Link: pewresearch.org...]

By the way, the fact that these are even the questions they chose is depressing. Very few are conceptual or demonstrate any real knowledge other than trivia.

Yet, only 10% of Americans got all 12.

Honestly most of these questions are the sort you would ask an educated person after they were hit in the head, to see if they were ok.

This makes me very sad for their comparative religion poll.

I got all 12 right! 100%! =) Like in the religion poll. =) I got the orange "Congratulations" thing at the top! Yay! =)

135 Usually refered to as anyways  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 12:59:35am

re: #133 Cheechako

Thanks again Cheeckako...

Dinner time here, pizza and beer sound good, back soon.

136 Renaissance_Man  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 12:59:38am

re: #132 ozbloke

I have grown up children in Australia, I don't think I would sell up here altogether.

But I have always wanted to live in the states, don't ask my why I will come up short on answers, if anything comes to mind its opportunity.

I think its the population, if you can have a good product there will be a market. Its not always true for countries with small populations.

That may seem simplified, but I think its the bases of my belief...

That's definitely true. With grown kids it's probably a better situation than trying to raise a family here for sure.

137 Cheechako  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 1:03:55am

re: #132 ozbloke

I have grown up children in Australia, I don't think I would sell up here altogether.

But I have always wanted to live in the states, don't ask my why I will come up short on answers, if anything comes to mind its opportunity.

I think its the population, if you can have a good product there will be a market. Its not always true for countries with small populations.

That may seem simplified, but I think its the bases of my belief...

Keep in mind the the U.S. unemployment rate is approaching 10% and in these areas with cheep houses the unemployment rate is even higher.
Many people bought houses with no money down and expected the home to appreciate in value whereby they would sell in the future and make a profit. Well, that didn't happen. Now they are "underwater" with their home worth less that what they owe on it.

138 Usually refered to as anyways  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 1:08:44am

re: #136 Renaissance_Man

That's definitely true. With grown kids it's probably a better situation than trying to raise a family here for sure.

Thats for sure,

We (all taxpayers) contribute to medicare here, private insurance is optional.
Education is almost covered by taxes too, at least in public education.

Costs come when your kids go to university, but even then you do not have to pay upfront. You pay it back when you are earning over a certain amount each year, and the interest is minimal compared to personal type loans.

Australia is a great country, a wonderful country. I'm Aussie through and through.

But I feel the need to travel in the states, spend time traveling there. Meet the people, enjoy the different cultures.
The USA has much to be proud of. I understand it has suffered tremendously this last crash, we were relatively lucky, we seemed to escape the bullet for the most part.

However, our money is derived through natural resources, we will have to change, and we seem blind to it.

Im hoping green technology will be the boom aver the next 40 years that computers and IT have over the last 40 years.

I also believe we need visionaries to lead us.
Last but not least, I do believe the government can help make it happen...

Food time.

139 Renaissance_Man  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 1:11:49am

re: #138 ozbloke

Thats for sure,

We (all taxpayers) contribute to medicare here, private insurance is optional.
Education is almost covered by taxes too, at least in public education.

Costs come when your kids go to university, but even then you do not have to pay upfront. You pay it back when you are earning over a certain amount each year, and the interest is minimal compared to personal type loans.

Australia is a great country, a wonderful country. I'm Aussie through and through.

Yeah mate, I don't mind living here, but ultimately I'll be raising a family back home.

140 freetoken  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 1:26:18am

re: #138 ozbloke


We (all taxpayers) contribute to medicare here,


SOCIALISM!!

Education is almost covered by taxes too,


SOCIALISM!!

Costs come when your kids go to university, but even then you do not have to pay upfront.


SOCIALISM!!


But I feel the need to travel in the states, spend time traveling there. Meet the people, enjoy the different cultures.

We're probably not worth the trouble - it's a long ways around the world... and I'd hate for you to be disappointed.

The USA has much to be proud of. I understand it has suffered tremendously this last crash, we were relatively lucky, we seemed to escape the bullet for the most part.

Our problems are mostly of our own doing, greatly due to our unchecked greed and all the ways we've invented to allow us to escape reality for as long as possible.

However, our money is derived through natural resources, we will have to change, and we seem blind to it.

That is true around the world. "Discovered" wealth is the basis for many economies, as it was in the US.

From my perspective, Australia is going to have a growing immigration problem for many many years to come, and you're also going to get swept up into the coming collapse of the Anglo-sphere even though it's been mostly the UK and the US which have caused the problems.

I've never been to Australia, though it sounds like an interesting place to visit

141 mdey  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 1:35:06am

Is there anything that she's claimed that hasn't been false?

142 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 1:48:13am

She claims it is wrong to lie, even to the Gestapo about hiding Jews in the attic.

But what the Bible forbids is "bearing false witness", which means the sort of lying that causes others harm. Lying to the Gestapo is the opposite of that.

Just ask any educated athiest.

143 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 2:24:14am

re: #142 ralphieboy

It's like we're discussing this woman as if she was intelligent :D

144 freetoken  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 2:26:35am

This is choice - On Murdoch's NY Post this morning they posted a short article:

I do Christ's work: Obama

Calling himself a "Christian by choice," President Obama yesterday said he thinks his work in public service is a reflection of his commitment to the teachings of Jesus Christ.

He provided the candid assessment of his faith after an audience member at a campaign-style event in New Mexico asked why he was a Christian.

Obama -- who up to 1 in 4 Americans believes is a Muslim -- called his mother "the most spiritual" person, but said his family members weren't weekly churchgoers.

"I came to my Christian faith later in life, and it was because the precepts of Jesus Christ spoke to me in terms of the kind of life that I would want to lead -- being my brothers' and sisters' keeper, treating others as they would treat me," he said

Short and sweet. Even though it was posted in the wee hours of the morn there is one comment - a classic Murdoch-product inspired one at that:

What Hypocracy . You Marxist Muslim, you have a nerve even mentioning Jesus Christ . You think what you are doing is Christ's work ? You're an abomination and your actions in destroying America will get you a choice spot in Hell when you meet your real Master . And brother, that's one time that big purple mouth of yours will be shut, and those big jug-ears of yours will be forced to listen. You've made some idiotic proclamations in the past , but this one is deplorable . Hasn't anyone told you that if you are a Christian you cannot be for Abortion ? Or did that little fact escape your 6 week crash course with the Rev. Wright , who is another one who isn't a Christian . You , Pelosi, Biden, Dodd, Giuliani , and Cuomo sr. are of the same mold . None of you are Christians, and the others aren't Catholic by any means. They're excommunicated and they know it. Just because Biden walks out before the cameras on Ash Wednesday with ashes on his forehead, and he drops a nickle into the basket once a year, doesn't make him a Catholic . He's another one who will find out his fate for selling his soul to be your flunky . Imagine , a Caucasian wanting to be second fiddle to a Half-Breed ? That little coup told me all I needed to know about you , Joe.

Well, that's as characteristic of the far right wingnuts as anything.

145 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 3:00:00am

re: #144 freetoken

That comment was so amazing I have a hard time believing it's real

146 Kronocide  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 3:08:28am

That's a very pathetic little person raging out.

147 freetoken  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 3:12:31am

re: #145 WindUpBird

re: #146 BigPapa

Just another day on another Murdoch hate site.

It's not unusual. The hate-wing of the American electorate is in full-on hate mode.

148 freetoken  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 3:18:42am
149 freetoken  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 3:36:28am
150 freetoken  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 3:55:22am
151 Fart Knocker  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 4:41:06am

Good Morning Lizards!

Christine O'Donnell is a member of the Pathological Liars Association...in fact, she's that group's President...yeah, that's the ticket!!

152 WarBicycle  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 5:25:29am

Someone trying to discredit her could have also set up that page.

153 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 5:29:36am

re: #152 WarBicycle

Someone trying to discredit her could have also set up that page.

Then she should be making a statement saying so. If someone did that to me I'd be pissed.

154 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 5:32:12am

And good morning all.

155 iossarian  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 5:32:27am

re: #152 WarBicycle

Someone trying to discredit her could have also set up that page.

OK, I confess, it was me.

You must admit, though, I was pretty convincing. I mean, I didn't put anything on there that was too obvious, or that might have led to immediate press scrutiny. Instead, I rather subtly implied that O'Donnell had studied at prestigious institutions, and was careful to only include such institutions where she had a semi-plausible "out", as a result of having spent time at institutions with similar names that sometimes hire adjuncts from their more prestigious neighbors.

In fact, you could say that I did a pretty thorough job of producing the kind of bogus CV that a duplicitous, power-hungry half-wit who's never held down a real job would have done.

157 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 5:43:56am

Good morning lizards!

158 Summer Seale  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 5:45:21am

re: #144 freetoken

I just read all eight comments. Particularly good is the "0.6% of americans are atheists." You can hear the dismissive bile against Atheists in that one, dripping with venom, and served up with a dash of poison for relish.

I am frankly amazed at America's crushing grip on Religion in public and private life. I am amazed because it used to be a sensible and advanced country. In fact, it used to be the most advanced country in the entire world. Everyone looked up to America for technology and science. American innovation in these sectors was unparalleled. But in recent years, it is as if the Morlocks have come back from the darkness from whence they were banished for a while.

Scientists used to be looked up to during the Cold War. Now, scientists are a group of anti-American conspirators to the average brainless idiot in the street. Doctors are seen as liars about cures and treatments and are apparently only out to make money. Astronomers apparently want to "take down God", as do biologists, neurologists, and any other kind of medical and scientific "-ologist" there is. Geologists apparently know absolutely nothing about their own line of work, or are there only to put forward an Atheistic and, more importantly, "Communist" agenda.

When people refer to the religious upsurge of morons in the United States as "The Christian Taliban", they are far more correct than they realize. There was another place in the world which also was far more advanced in the 1950's than it is today - Afghanistah and Pakistan. There, too, education was far different sixty years ago than it is today. And there too we see exactly what happens when religious delinquents are allowed to take over and dominate the conversation. And that is exactly where our country is headed, and bloody fast too (my currently living in France notwithstanding, America still is my country).

The mere fact that religious commentary dominates politics so pervasively today speaks volumes about the descent of this country. Obama isn't destroying America - these religious fanatics are. And just like Pakistan and Afghanistan, it isn't going to get better until these morons are out of power, out of a job, and laughed at and mocked in every corner of the world.

I really do apologize to the religious people on the board who aren't fanatics, but it is fairly clear to me that things have progressed far beyond rational discussion with the other side.

At least, that's my opinion from (currently) across the pond. Being a total American, however, I think that I have more than a right to express my utter dismay and shock at how far things have gone.

159 iossarian  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 5:51:36am

re: #158 Summer

The difference is that, a few years back, scientists were telling people things they wanted to hear (we've got the bomb, we've got a man on the moon, we're making huge advances against cancer).

Now they're telling them one big thing that no-one wants to hear: if we don't reduce our consumption (of energy, but that will pretty much mean cuts across the board), we're going to make the world uninhabitable.

When you tell someone something unpalatable, the fingers go in the ears pretty fast.

160 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 5:52:55am
161 iossarian  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 5:58:31am

re: #160 Cannadian Club Akbar

From the same source:
I got the girlies in the coop, like the Colonel's got the chickens...

162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 5:59:30am

re: #158 Summer

I think these guys have always been there. They just have more of a "bully pulpit" these days. The folks in possession of the bully pulpit gavel at any given time, always sound like assholes, IMO.

But, thanks for leaving the rational religious folks out of the fray there.

163 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:01:44am

re: #161 iossarian

From the same source:
I got the girlies in the coop, like the Colonel's got the chickens...

Funny, if the girls ate the Double Down samiches, they wouldn't fit into those shorts. Heh.

164 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:02:37am

Democrat shitbag Alan Grayson can't control himself with his stupid lying 'Taliban Dan' ads. It's going cost him the race.

Sunshine State Poll: Grayson In Trouble

The latest Sunshine State/VSS poll shows controversial Democratic incumbent Alan Grayson trailing former state Senator Dan Webster by seven points, 43 percent to 36 percent. A majority of respondents -- 51 percent -- disapprove of the job that Grayson is doing. Independents have an unfavorable view of him as well, by a 36/47 margin.

Grayson has ignored the conventional wisdom that a freshman should be a quiet member who carefully tends to the home fires. The latest controversy involves his "Taliban Dan" advertisement, where he explicitly compares his opponent to the Taliban, and shows a clip of Webster paraphrasing Ephesians 5:22 -- "wives, submit to your husbands." An unedited version of the clip shows that Webster was actually suggesting that husbands ought not concentrate on that verse, but rather should look at what the Bible tells them to do. Politico reports that the advertisement has been condemned by FactCheck.org and the Orlando Sentinel.

Regardless, an incumbent Congressman polling at 36 percent is in very deep trouble, especially in a swing district like this one. RCP currently rates the race as Leans Republican.

165 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:03:31am

re: #164 NJDhockeyfan

He is now at the top of MyListTM.

166 iossarian  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:11:31am

re: #164 NJDhockeyfan

I'm not disagreeing with you, but was the "Taliban Dan" ad out in time to have an effect on the poll? Would be interesting to know.

I'm guessing that his low numbers have more to do with the anti-incumbent downturn-fueled fervor (presumably higher than average in FL, which has a huge reliance on sales tax if I remember correctly). But I agree that the ad and related uproar are probably going to be a net negative for him.

167 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:17:44am

re: #166 iossarian

Grayson is an asshole.

168 lostlakehiker  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:20:52am

re: #40 LudwigVanQuixote

I will bet she fails this:

[Link: pewresearch.org...]

By the way, the fact that these are even the questions they chose is depressing. Very few are conceptual or demonstrate any real knowledge other than trivia.

Yet, only 10% of Americans got all 12.

Honestly most of these questions are the sort you would ask an educated person after they were hit in the head, to see if they were ok.

This makes me very sad for their comparative religion poll.

You have to get into the spirit of the thing to get the one about Mars right. The polar ice cap is not a recent discovery. So how can the answer be water? Only if water counts as different from water, depending on phase.

Not water ice, not water vapor, but liquid water, would be the "recent discovery".

169 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:22:17am

re: #40 LudwigVanQuixote

I will bet she fails this:

[Link: pewresearch.org...]

By the way, the fact that these are even the questions they chose is depressing. Very few are conceptual or demonstrate any real knowledge other than trivia.

Yet, only 10% of Americans got all 12.

Honestly most of these questions are the sort you would ask an educated person after they were hit in the head, to see if they were ok.

This makes me very sad for their comparative religion poll.

I got them all right.

Though I had to take an educated guess (it wasn't schools of fish!) on the what caused Tsunami's one....

170 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:23:08am

re: #166 iossarian

I'm not disagreeing with you, but was the "Taliban Dan" ad out in time to have an effect on the poll? Would be interesting to know.

I'm guessing that his low numbers have more to do with the anti-incumbent downturn-fueled fervor (presumably higher than average in FL, which has a huge reliance on sales tax if I remember correctly). But I agree that the ad and related uproar are probably going to be a net negative for him.

The other day the press reported that Alan Grayson was up by 13 points, now he's down by 7. Sounds like his election hopes are going to die quickly.

171 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:25:41am

re: #64 blueraven

Well I am really surprised. I just took the test and got all 12 correct. I dont think I am particularly well versed in science, so it is sad that only 10 percent get all 12. OK I admit to guessing on the Laser question, but it was a 50/50 chance!

What?

"Guessing on the laser" question?

Do you not even know that Laser started out as an acronym and what that first letter stands for?

172 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:26:28am

re: #169 jamesfirecat

I got them all correct as well, which is scary considering I'm an idiot.

173 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:27:07am

re: #171 jamesfirecat

What?

"Guessing on the laser" question?

Do you not even know that Laser started out as an acronym and what that first letter stands for?

Light?

174 lostlakehiker  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:28:07am

re: #88 LudwigVanQuixote

But for primary school, still on average, better than ours.

BTW about the science quiz, who cares if Pluto, got re-classified from a planet or not. That is not knowledge. It doesn't really tell you anything about Pluto. It is stamp collecting.

Knowing that lasers focus light and not sound waves is a better question, because that at leaste gets to some sort of actual knowledge, but even then it is a bad question. A laser does a lot more than focus light. You can do that with a plain old lens. Actually, asking about stimulated emission of photons is actual knowledge.

My point is that if you got less than 10 of those you are either having a very bad night or should hang your head in shame. It is sort of like congratulating yourself for being able to tie your shoes.

Now with that in mind, consider that most people only got about half of them, and that is a measure of where America is in terms of science education.

The same goes for history, literature and comparative religion. The anti-intellectualism of America has produced a nation of lazy boobs whose knowledge base only rivals a hard working moron.

Of course, how else could anyone take someone like O'Donnel or Palin seriously?

Europe isn't that far ahead of us. I saw a snippet of a French "Who wants to be a millionaire" and the question was, the moon orbits [a] the sun, (b) the earth, [c], Mars, [d] Jupiter.

They guy struggled, and then asked for a lifeline. The audience struggled too, though the earth got more votes than any other pick, it wasn't any landslide.

Oh, and Americans aren't lazy. Americans work at their jobs and they know what they have to know to do them. A plumber knows what part does what and where it goes.

The French know that too, and it's about plumbing, sort of.

:-)

175 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:31:33am

Ahmadinejad To Throw Stones At Israel From Fatima Gate


During a two-day visit to Lebanon, set for October 13, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad plans to meet with regime elites, tour southern Lebanon where he will inaugurate an Iranian center in the town of Maron Al-Ras, give a speech in Bint Jbail, and throw stones at Israel from the Fatima Gate.

The date for a meeting between him and Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah has not yet been set.

The visit will be secured by Iranian forces and Hizbullah activists.

I hope Israel mistakens the rock for a grenade and returns fire.

176 iossarian  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:31:36am

re: #170 NJDhockeyfan

Again, not disagreeing with you. Grayson is in big trouble.

I went and looked at the poll, and checked its timing, as well as the controversial ad's release date. The ad started airing on the 25th and the poll was conducted from the 25th to the 27th, so I guess it could well have influenced the numbers.

The poll internals suggest that a lot of Grayson's problems come from a heavily unfavorable female electorate, which is not surprising due to his knockabout/obnoxious style (including his "K Street whore" comment).

Ironic, though, that his opponent Webster is very anti-abortion, and has other views that can be characterized as anti-woman. It will be interesting to see how the last few weeks play out.

177 lostlakehiker  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:33:44am

re: #159 iossarian

The difference is that, a few years back, scientists were telling people things they wanted to hear (we've got the bomb, we've got a man on the moon, we're making huge advances against cancer).

Now they're telling them one big thing that no-one wants to hear: if we don't reduce our consumption (of energy, but that will pretty much mean cuts across the board), we're going to make the world uninhabitable.

When you tell someone something unpalatable, the fingers go in the ears pretty fast.

The answer to that is simple. Don't say things like that. They aren't even true. We don't have to reduce our consumption, not if it's seen from the right perspective.

We don't have to reduce our consumption of lumen-hours. LED's will give us more light for less kwh's. We don't have to reduce our consumption of kwh's, necessarily. Windmills, solar, and nuclear can supply more, at far less cost to the environment.

We don't have to live in chilly, drafty homes. Better insulation, passive solar design, and so on can allow us to keep indoor temperatures close to what we like, without expending all that many BTU's.

Consumption of raw resources is a means to an end. Science is the key to getting more bang per raw buck. And that's what we should tell people.

178 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:34:10am

re: #176 iossarian

There is a Grayson thread upstream. Or down stream. Whatever.

179 garhighway  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:36:51am

re: #143 WindUpBird

It's like we're discussing this woman as if she was intelligent :D

For what it is worth, I think we are beating a dead horse here. The woman is a political dead letter. Further flyspecking of her resume is a waste of everyone's time.

We should move on.

180 Lidane  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:40:37am

re: #55 Stanley Sea

She hasn't had sex for 20 years.

That's all I need to comprehend. She's fucked up.

Yep. That pretty much says it all.

Someone needs to lay this woman good and proper so she'll get over all her hangups already. Sweet talk her with Scripture, or whatever, and just get it done.

181 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:41:39am

re: #173 Cannadian Club Akbar

Light?

Yeah.

Hell you can figure out that Laser's aren't sound based just by watching Star Wars/Moonraker.

There's no air for sound to travel through and thus no sound in space.

US Space Marines/Starships use lasers in space...

Ergo: Lasers!= Sound.

182 iossarian  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:43:03am

re: #177 lostlakehiker

The answer to that is simple. Don't say things like that. They aren't even true. We don't have to reduce our consumption, not if it's seen from the right perspective.

That idea is tempting, but the fact is that, if we could reduce carbon emissions without reducing consumption, we would do it tomorrow.

LEDs cost more than incandescent light bulbs. Insulation costs more than heating (I know, I just had my attic done and the payback is roughly 15 years, which would be DOA in a corporate setting). Wind power costs more than coal.

And in the meantime, there are 6 billion people who currently consume far less than us, but are keen to get in on the action.

So I agree that we can do a better job of "selling" the low-carbon economy, but the harsh reality is that in the short to medium term it will mean less consumption across the board. Which is why it will probably take 120 degrees in LA in October before people really start paying attention.

183 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:45:49am

re: #7 LudwigVanQuixote

But I thought she never lies!

Lying to the SS to prevent Jews from being murdered: BAD
Lying about your education on your resume: OK

184 garhighway  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:46:32am

Mildly off topic:

The new commercial regarding Sen. Vitter's escapades.

[Link: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

Unlike O'Donnell, this guy hasn't been talked about enough.

185 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:46:43am

re: #181 jamesfirecat

Yeah.

Hell you can figure out that Laser's aren't sound based just by watching Star Wars/Moonraker.

There's no air for sound to travel through and thus no sound in space.

US Space Marines/Starships use lasers in space...

Ergo: Lasers!= Sound.

That logic assumes that they have some knowledge about space (it's a vacuum) and vacuums (sound doesn't work in a vacuum).

186 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:48:06am

re: #185 oaktree

That logic assumes that they have some knowledge about space (it's a vacuum) and vacuums (sound doesn't work in a vacuum).

I learned in 5th grade that matches don't work on the moon. No oxygen. And once again, I'm an idiot.

187 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:48:54am

Man marries four women to prove ex-wife wrong


A Saudi man married four women at the same time just to prove his ex-wife was wrong when she told him no other woman would marry him.

The Saudi woman had thought her 23-year-old ex-husband was bluffing when he told her he would marry four women at the same night to show she was mistaken, the Arabic language daily Alwatan reported on Wednesday.

“He fulfilled his promise and married four women at the same time and in one night just to vex his ex-wife,” the paper said.

188 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:49:25am

re: #185 oaktree

That logic assumes that they have some knowledge about space (it's a vacuum) and vacuums (sound doesn't work in a vacuum).

Fair enough I'm just saying that it seems one would be WAY more likely to pick up the bit of trivia that leads one to knowing that lasers aren't sound than they would be to off the cuff know that its underwater earthquakes that cause Tusnamis....

189 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:51:25am

re: #186 Cannadian Club Akbar

I learned in 5th grade that matches don't work on the moon. No oxygen. And once again, I'm an idiot.

Not really. It's simply that you don't retain or easily recall trivia that does not fit your current interests or needs. You're not working on the moon, or with lasers in such a way that the specifics of how they work is important to your job and/or lifestyle. (The lasers are there, but how they work is not important. Anymore than knowing how internal combustion engines work, or magnets.)

Now lasers in the jungle is an entirely different matter... ;)

190 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:51:58am

re: #189 oaktree

Not really. It's simply that you don't retain or easily recall trivia that does not fit your current interests or needs. You're not working on the moon, or with lasers in such a way that the specifics of how they work is important to your job and/or lifestyle. (The lasers are there, but how they work is not important. Anymore than knowing how internal combustion engines work, or magnets.)

Now lasers in the jungle is an entirely different matter... ;)

Tickle Amy....

191 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:52:04am

re: #188 jamesfirecat

Wasn't the Tsunami is Indonesia a few years ago caused by an underwater earthquake?

192 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:53:25am

re: #188 jamesfirecat

Fair enough I'm just saying that it seems one would be WAY more likely to pick up the bit of trivia that leads one to knowing that lasers aren't sound than they would be to off the cuff know that its underwater earthquakes that cause Tusnamis...

You could get to the tsunami answer via a different logic trace. How much energy is required to generate that large of a wave - and which of the answers has any chance of generating that scale of displacement.

Besides, the school of fish answer is "sashimi" in any case. ;)

193 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:54:06am

re: #191 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wasn't the Tsunami is Indonesia a few years ago caused by an underwater earthquake?

Probably since evidently that's what they're all caused by given that quiz I just took.

Still it's not like knowing the cause of a Tsunamis is information that's made its way into the back of my head due to it being related to some geeky bit of trivia.

194 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:55:39am

re: #191 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wasn't the Tsunami is Indonesia a few years ago caused by an underwater earthquake?

My moonbat sis-in-law told me the US government created the tsunami to kill poor people.

195 garhighway  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:55:44am

Fun fact:

The GOP Pledge With America has lots of pictures. They reveal the GOP mindset in unintended ways.

There are 384 white people in the photos. There are 8 people of color.

America, Fuck ya!

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

(Warning: the link is to a columnist at HuffPo. So you should avoid the comments if you don't want your head to explode. The commenters over there are a sick lot. I tried to inject reason there last week on the 9/11 truther issue, and it was way ugly. But this piece is, as best I can tell, accurate.)

196 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:55:53am

re: #193 jamesfirecat

Probably since evidently that's what they're all caused by given that quiz I just took.

Still it's not like knowing the cause of a Tsunamis is information that's made its way into the back of my head due to it being related to some geeky bit of trivia.

I've seen specials that say if the Canary Islands fall into the sea, the east coast is fucked.

197 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:57:37am

re: #194 NJDhockeyfan

My moonbat sis-in-law told me the US government created the tsunami to kill poor people.

And a hurricane steering machine made by Tesla put Katrina in New Orleans.

198 iossarian  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:57:55am

re: #196 Cannadian Club Akbar

I heard there's a dodgy cliff in the Azores that could wipe out New York if it snaps off.

It's a bit like the "Asteroid might collide with Earth and kill us all" news stories. Not much you can do about it really.

199 garhighway  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:58:34am

re: #198 iossarian

I heard there's a dodgy cliff in the Azores that could wipe out New York if it snaps off.

It's a bit like the "Asteroid might collide with Earth and kill us all" news stories. Not much you can do about it really.

Lucifer's Hammer was a cool book.

200 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:59:18am

re: #198 iossarian

I heard there's a dodgy cliff in the Azores that could wipe out New York if it snaps off.

It's a bit like the "Asteroid might collide with Earth and kill us all" news stories. Not much you can do about it really.

I live on the west coast of Florida. Waves won't hit me. OR WILL THEY!!!!
/

201 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:59:30am

re: #197 Cannadian Club Akbar

And a hurricane steering machine made by Tesla George Bush & Dick
Cheney put Katrina in New Orleans.

FIFY

202 Ericus58  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:59:47am

re: #197 Cannadian Club Akbar

And a hurricane steering machine made by Tesla put Katrina in New Orleans.

Upding for mentioning Tesla.

Bring out the Death Ray!!!!

203 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:00:45am

re: #196 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've seen specials that say if the Canary Islands fall into the sea, the east coast is fucked.

Referring to the claim that the west slope of a volcano there is going to eventually slide into the Atlantic in a catastrophic way?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

204 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:00:46am

re: #202 Ericus58

Upding for mentioning Tesla.

Bring out the Death Ray!!!

My Rays are in the post season!! WOOT!!

205 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:01:46am

re: #204 Cannadian Club Akbar

My Rays are in the post season!! WOOT!!

Does this qualify as a death ray?

[Link: news.nationalgeographic.com...]

206 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:02:00am

re: #203 oaktree

Referring to the claim that the west slope of a volcano there is going to eventually slide into the Atlantic in a catastrophic way?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Yes. We are all gonna die.
(this statement is true)

207 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:03:39am

re: #205 oaktree

Does this qualify as a death ray?

[Link: news.nationalgeographic.com...]

Holy crap!!
/I will have to consult with Steve Irwin. (that wasn't very nice)

208 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:08:23am

My new soon-to-be ex wife is sending me mucho email on FB. Cool.:)

209 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:09:10am

re: #207 Cannadian Club Akbar

Holy crap!!
/I will have to consult with Steve Irwin. (that wasn't very nice)

If they could also fly that would explain UFOs and at least one Godzilla movie...

/

210 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:10:37am

re: #209 oaktree

If they could also fly that would explain UFOs and at least one Godzilla movie...

/

Yea, but then George Norrie would be out of a job.
/

211 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:15:46am

re: #199 garhighway

Lucifer's Hammer was a cool book.

Whoa, Larry Niven fan! I love his stuff, especially the Gil Hamilton short stories. Corpsesicles, organleggers, and ARM, oh my.

212 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:16:14am

I didn't study at Claremont or Oxford, either. I am surprised I didn't not run into O'Donnell while we both were not attending. It is such a small quantum possibility world, isn't it?

213 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:16:45am

My boss was sweating last night, picking up the nights deposits. Today is payday. Now I'm sweating.

214 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:17:50am

re: #213 Cannadian Club Akbar

My boss was sweating last night, picking up the nights deposits. Today is payday. Now I'm sweating.

Oh, sheesh. I remember you mentioned that yesterday... Good luck... DO you get paid in cash or check?

215 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:17:52am

re: #202 Ericus58

Upding for mentioning Tesla.

Bring out the Death Ray!!!

There are 9/11 Truthers who believe that the WTC towers were destroyed by orbiting energy weapons. I'm dead serious.

216 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:18:30am

re: #208 Cannadian Club Akbar

My new soon-to-be ex wife is sending me mucho email on FB. Cool.:)

Hate mail?

217 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:18:44am

re: #214 imp_62

Oh, sheesh. I remember you mentioned that yesterday... Good luck... DO you get paid in cash or check?

I think today is cash. Hoping.

218 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:19:02am

re: #215 negativ

There are 9/11 Truthers who believe that the WTC towers were destroyed by orbiting energy weapons. I'm dead serious.


No shit? Link to story, if possible.

219 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:19:58am

re: #216 imp_62

Hate mail?

Actually, a girl I have always been fond of. We lost touch for a long time.

220 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:20:33am

re: #215 negativ

There are 9/11 Truthers who believe that the WTC towers were destroyed by orbiting energy weapons. I'm dead serious.

Rosie?

221 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:20:50am

re: #219 Cannadian Club Akbar

Actually, a girl I have always been fond of. We lost touch for a long time.

OIC - you mean the future former Mrs CCA :)

222 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:21:53am

re: #215 negativ

There are 9/11 Truthers who believe that the WTC towers were destroyed by orbiting energy weapons. I'm dead serious.

Tom Servo's death ray must have gotten loose some time after Crow got zapped by it.

(One of my favorite MST3K bits ever, especially when Crow's ping-pong ball eyes suddenly flare up.)

223 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:22:08am

re: #221 imp_62

OIC - you mean the future former Mrs CCA :)

She likes beer and baseball. And is blond. I know how to cook. If she does laundry, I'm good. :)

224 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:23:19am

re: #223 Cannadian Club Akbar

She likes beer and baseball. And is blond. I know how to cook. If she does laundry, I'm good. :)

Greedy bastard, she's blonde and likes beer and baseball. Do your own fecking laundry!

225 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:24:06am

re: #222 oaktree

Tom Servo's death ray must have gotten loose some time after Crow got zapped by it.

(One of my favorite MST3K bits ever, especially when Crow's ping-pong ball eyes suddenly flare up.)

Was I drunk, or did I hear something about a MST3K movie being released sometime soon in this multiverse?

226 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:25:02am

re: #224 imp_62

Greedy bastard, she's blonde and likes beer and baseball. Do your own fecking laundry!

I'll do laundry. It will be found in the dryer. I am that lazy.

227 Four More Tears  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:25:23am

re: #225 imp_62

Was I drunk, or did I hear something about a MST3K movie being released sometime soon in this multiverse?

I want to go to the multiverse that's getting the Arrested Development movie...

228 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:26:02am

re: #197 Cannadian Club Akbar

And a hurricane steering machine made by Tesla put Katrina in New Orleans.

Bush & Cheney.
How quickly forgotten . . .

229 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:26:08am

re: #218 imp_62

No shit? Link to story, if possible.

[Link: www.google.com...]

The primary proponent of the idea is Judy Wood. Actually, that's Dr. Judy Wood, as she has a PhD in mechanical engineering (possibly schizophrenia also, but that's another story).

230 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:28:51am

re: #229 negativ

[Link: www.google.com...]

The primary proponent of the idea is Judy Wood. Actually, that's Dr. Judy Wood, as she has a PhD in mechanical engineering (possibly schizophrenia also, but that's another story).

231 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:29:51am

re: #229 negativ

I hate her hat. Biznich.

232 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:30:37am
233 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:31:03am

re: #228 reine.de.tout

good morning, my liege ;)

234 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:31:49am

I HATE TROOFERS!!!

235 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:32:44am

re: #232 NJDhockeyfan

"Dr. Judy Wood, a former assistant professor at Clemson University, has developed compelling evidence that a directed energy weapon turned the physical matter of the World Trade Center towers into nanoparticles through the process of molecular dissociation."

Sounds like what happens to me after too many tequila drinks

236 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:33:12am

re: #234 Cannadian Club Akbar

I HATE TROOFERS!!!

Fuck you Troofers!!!

237 Four More Tears  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:33:31am
238 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:37:00am

re: #237 JasonA

What a buffoon.

Ambush Filmmaker O'Keefe Tried To 'Punk,' 'Seduce' CNN Reporter

That douche couldn't seduce a blow up doll. Too funny.

239 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:37:54am

There's No Budget, but California Is All Over the Foreign-Cow Issue

On the brink of insolvency, California may have to pay its bills with IOUs soon. A budget was due three months ago, and the legislature hasn't passed one.

The lawmakers can, however, point to a list of other achievements this year. Awaiting Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's signature, for example, is a bill that would bar the state from filming cows in New Zealand. It's the fruit of five committee votes and eight legislative analyses.

California lawmakers also voted to form a lobster commission. They created "Motorcycle Awareness Month," not to mention a "Cuss Free Week."

And they kept the California state rock safe. Senate Bill 624 had sought to bust the rock, serpentine. Adamant opposition protected it, but sponsor Gloria Romero declared this "an issue we should address again."

Failure to pass a budget has reinforced the most populous state's image as also the most ungovernable. Mr. Schwarzenegger proposed his budget in January. Legislators have had all year to revise it and pass one more to their liking. It's the only state with a fiscal year that began July 1 that hasn't passed a budget.

California paid bills with IOUs for two months last year, and the state controller says he may resort to them again in the next weeks if lawmakers tarry. Legislative leaders say they hope to have a preliminary budget this week to deal with a shortfall currently projected at $19 billion. It still may take weeks of wrangling to wrap up final details.

What a mess.

240 Gus  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:38:34am

Morning.

Huffington Post is at it again. Another article on homeopathy snake oil.

Homeopathy: A Healthier Way to Treat Depression?

This calls for some James Randi.

James Randi explains homeopathy

241 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:40:20am

re: #239 NJDhockeyfan

Cuss free week? They need a swear jar!!

242 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:43:14am

re: #240 Gus 802

Morning.

Huffington Post is at it again. Another article on homeopathy snake oil.

Homeopathy: A Healthier Way to Treat Depression?

This calls for some James Randi.

James Randi explains homeopathy


[Video]

I am of two minds on homeopathy. I don't see how it works, from an analytical pov, but I have seen it work on people.

243 Gus  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:44:45am

re: #242 imp_62

I am of two minds on homeopathy. I don't see how it works, from an analytical pov, but I have seen it work on people.

Then there were other reason why it "worked". It wasn't the snake oil, I mean homeopathy, but other contributing factors.

244 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:45:43am
245 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:47:30am

Nobel Peace Prize winner Yasser Arafat in the news...

Arafat ordered Hamas attacks against Israel in 2000

The late Palestinian Authority chairman Yasser Arafat had instructed Hamas to launch terror attacks against Israel when he realized that peace talks with Israel weren’t going anywhere, Mahmoud Zahar, one of the Hamas leaders in the Gaza Strip, revealed on Tuesday.

“President Arafat instructed Hamas to carry out a number of military operations in the heart of the Jewish state after he felt that his negotiations with the Israeli government then had failed,” Zahar told students and lecturers at the Islamic University in Gaza City.

Zahar did not specify when and how Arafat instructed Hamas to launch the “military operations” – most of which were suicide bombings targeting Israeli civilians.

However, it is believed the reference is to Arafat’s response to the failure of the Camp David summit in 2000.

This was the first time that a senior Hamas official disclosed that some of the Hamas suicide bombings during the second intifada, which erupted 10 years ago, were ordered by Arafat. Until now it was widely believed that Arafat had only ordered his Fatah militiamen to carry out terror attacks on Israel.

246 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:48:00am

re: #244 Cannadian Club Akbar

We use black babies as alligator bait. Geez.

That reminds me - I ran out. Gotta run to the black baby bait shoppe

247 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:48:42am

re: #242 imp_62

I am of two minds on homeopathy. I don't see how it works, from an analytical pov, but I have seen it work on people.

Details?

248 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:48:51am

re: #246 imp_62

That reminds me - I ran out. Gotta run to the black baby bait shoppe

*snort*

249 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:50:46am

re: #246 imp_62

That reminds me - I ran out. Gotta run to the black baby bait shoppe

Is that the new name for the band?

250 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:52:48am

re: #177 lostlakehiker

There is still the notion out there (mostly on right-wing talk radio) that the "environmental whacko" wants us to live in lean-tos and wipe our butts with toilet paper.

And There are vested interests who want to see us continue to burn fossil fuels and they will go a long way to see that we continue to do so and to burn more. So they are happy to promote that point of view: that conservationists are anti-progress and anti-affluence.

But we can use less and still make progress and increase our affluence if we use our energy more efficiently. One step would be to simply end the direct and indierect guvernment subidies to the fossil fuels industries

And perhaps even find a way to make soft, downy, absorbent toilet paper out of tree leaves...

251 Taqyia2Me  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:53:45am

re: #40 LudwigVanQuixote

Hey! I got all 11 correct!!
Wait-What??

252 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:53:53am

re: #208 Cannadian Club Akbar

My new soon-to-be ex wife is sending me mucho email on FB. Cool.:)

I have my soon-to-be ex wife blocked on my FB site, her name and face do not appear anywhere.

253 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:54:20am

re: #247 negativ

Details?

We had neighbours who swore by it, and it seemed to work for their kids. In Germany, doctors often prescribe certain homeopathic remedies in lieu of traditional medicine, and it reduced swelling and inflammation in at least one instance. At the same time, intellectually, i don't see how it works.

254 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:54:38am

re: #252 ralphieboy

I have my soon-to-be ex wife blocked on my FB site, her name and face do not appear anywhere.

Hope it isn't the same girl!
/

255 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:54:52am

re: #249 oaktree

Is that the new name for the band?

That would be an awesome name for a rock band...

256 Winny Spencer  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:55:45am

re: #238 Cannadian Club Akbar

That douche couldn't seduce a blow up doll. Too funny.

After googling her name, that is one case of severe self-delusion right there. But I could sympathize with him, if he wasn't a tosser. Delusions are a terrible thing.

257 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:56:29am

...When Amos Moses was boy, his papa used him for alligator bait...

258 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:56:56am

re: #240 Gus 802

Morning.

Huffington Post is at it again. Another article on homeopathy snake oil.

Homeopathy: A Healthier Way to Treat Depression?

This calls for some James Randi.

James Randi explains homeopathy


[Video]

[Link: xkcd.com...]

259 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 7:58:48am

re: #256 Winny Spencer

After googling her name, that is one case of severe self-delusion right there. But I could sympathize with him, if he wasn't a tosser. Delusions are a terrible thing.

I love crazy people. I usually run after I finish my beer.

260 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:01:28am

re: #254 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hope it isn't the same girl!
/

that would be big of you, or big of me....

261 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:01:54am

re: #253 imp_62

We had neighbours who swore by it, and it seemed to work for their kids. In Germany, doctors often prescribe certain homeopathic remedies in lieu of traditional medicine, and it reduced swelling and inflammation in at least one instance. At the same time, intellectually, i don't see how it works.

Placebo Effect is the most likely explanation. If you think it's effective you can often generate curative effects based on that belief alone. It's a major reason for establishing control groups and double-blind testing in research studies.

262 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:02:25am

First World War officially ends

The First World War will officially end on Sunday, 92 years after the guns fell silent, when Germany pays off the last chunk of reparations imposed on it by the Allies.

263 iossarian  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:02:29am

re: #253 imp_62

I think there are two things (possibly) going on:

1) Placebo effect.

2) When I first became aware of homeopathy, it was mostly in use as a remedy for allergies. There are in fact parallels between homeopathy and regular exposure treatment for allergies, although the ultra-low concentrations in homeopathy wouldn't work in this way. Maybe, in some cases, the homeopathy concentrations are actually high enough for them to work in the same way as exposure therapy?

264 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:02:52am

re: #259 Cannadian Club Akbar

I love crazy people. I usually run after I finish my beer.

re: #260 ralphieboy

that would be big of you, or big of me...

I'll finish me beer and run.
/

266 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:06:36am

Rouge One, I was right. Dude charged with manslaughter. Not sure why not more.

[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

267 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:06:36am

re: #263 iossarian

re: #261 oaktree

I am skeptical of pretty much everything - including established pharmaceutical products. But I am generally willing to receive and accept convincing new information. Remember that western medicine was dismissive of Chinese medicine for decades, before coming to the realization that many natural and traditional treatments are effective.

268 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:07:00am

Pelosi's negatives hit all-time high; as unpopular as BP

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's negative ratings have hit an all-time high in the new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll. A full 50 percent of those surveyed have a somewhat or very negative impression of Pelosi, while just 22 percent have a somewhat or very positive impression of her.

Pelosi's negative rating is precisely the same as oil giant BP, which has taken a public relations beating in the aftermath of the Gulf oil spill. While 50 percent of those surveyed view BP negatively, just 12 percent view the company favorably -- a rating even lower than Pelosi's.

Pelosi is less popular than her Republican predecessor in the speaker's chair, Newt Gingrich. The poll finds that 35 percent of those surveyed have a negative impression of Gingrich, while 24 percent view him positively.

Pelosi is also less popular than 2008 GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, who is viewed negatively by 48 percent of those surveyed, and positively by 30 percent.

269 darthstar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:07:54am

Mornin' Lacertae...

It looks like O'Keefe got a boat-load of fail recently...fortunately, he probably has a use for all those dildos he bought.

[Link: siu.blogs.cnn.com...]

270 darthstar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:08:34am

re: #258 wlewisiii

[Link: xkcd.com...]

win

271 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:09:14am

re: #269 darthstar

Mornin' Lacertae...

It looks like O'Keefe got a boat-load of fail recently...fortunately, he probably has a use for all those dildos he bought.

[Link: siu.blogs.cnn.com...]

I was just looking into that. No response yet from Brietbart.

272 darthstar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:09:43am

re: #265 Killgore Trout

Fake pimp from ACORN videos tries to 'punk' CNN correspondent

Heh...beat me by two minutes. I'll bet even Breitbart tells O'Keefe that was a stupid idea.

273 darthstar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:10:11am

re: #271 Killgore Trout

I was just looking into that. No response yet from Brietbart.

He just wants his dildos back.

274 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:11:29am

re: #272 darthstar

Heh...beat me by two minutes. I'll bet even Breitbart tells O'Keefe that was a stupid idea.

If I had a dollar for each time I recorded myself having sex with a woman...I'd be broke.

275 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:12:23am

re: #272 darthstar

Heh...beat me by two minutes. I'll bet even Breitbart tells O'Keefe that was a stupid idea.

This is happening because O'Keefe is convinced that what he does is hard hitting journalism. It's the same psychology that led Tiny Tim to think he was a singer.

276 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:13:56am

re: #273 darthstar

He just wants his dildos back.

lol

277 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:14:43am

re: #274 Cannadian Club Akbar

If I had a dollar for each time I recorded myself having sex with a woman...I'd be broke.

and that one time doesn't count because -- she walked like a woman, but talked like a man...

278 Ericus58  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:15:25am

Obama and Rahm Emanuel's Bromance

some humor for the middle of the week.

279 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:15:47am

re: #277 imp_62

and that one time doesn't count because -- she walked like a woman, but talked like a man...

And it was in a alley.
/

280 iossarian  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:17:14am

re: #277 imp_62

and that one time doesn't count because -- she walked like a woman, but talked like a man...

Girls will be boys, and boys will be girls,
It's a mixed-up, muddled-up, shook-up world.

281 iossarian  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:18:06am

Except for Breitbart.
B-R-E-I-T Breitbart.
Buh buh, buh buh, Breitbart.

282 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:19:16am

re: #281 iossarian

Except for Breitbart.
B-R-E-I-T Breitbart.
Buh buh, buh buh, Breitbart.

lmao. i was just typing exactly that.

283 Gus  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:20:55am

re: #269 darthstar

Mornin' Lacertae...

It looks like O'Keefe got a boat-load of fail recently...fortunately, he probably has a use for all those dildos he bought.

[Link: siu.blogs.cnn.com...]

What a bunch of dorks.

284 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:21:12am

it's slow here atm. let's all become fb friends and find out who cca is gonna marry

285 darthstar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:22:03am

re: #271 Killgore Trout

I was just looking into that. No response yet from Brietbart.

It's too bad O'Keefe didn't succeed in getting her on the boat. The Youtube video of him getting arrested for sexual assault would have been priceless.

286 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:22:58am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Seems that Carl Paladino has himself quite the crew of assistants and advisers. His driver/political adviser got busted on DUI, but changed his name at some point after coming to NYS.

Another failed to report taxes to the IRS (go figure). And still another adviser has been indicted on charges of stealing more than $1 million from Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg’s re-election bid last year. And Mr. Paladino’s campaign chairwoman left a local government position amid claims that she had steered $1 billion in public money to a politically connected investment manager.

Yet another poll finds that the more people get to know Paladino, the less they like him (and find him unfit for the job he seeks).

287 darthstar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:24:38am

re: #286 lawhawk

Yes, but he's still a mama grizzly.

288 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:24:43am

Counter-Terror Operation Stops Trucks On I-20


DOUGLAS COUNTY, Ga. -- A team of federal agents stopped tractor-trailers on Interstate 20 just west of Atlanta, inspecting each truck as it passed through a weigh station, and Channel 2 has learned its part of a counter-terrorism operation.

Channel 2's Linda Stouffer reported a flashing sign on the interstate directed the trucks to pull into a state-owned inspection station near Lee Road in Douglas County at the height of the evening commute.

Channel 2 Action News confirmed that agents from several federal agencies, including Homeland Security, the Department of Transportation, and the Transportation Security Administration were involved. The Douglas County Sheriff’s Office assisted in the exercise.

I wonder what they were looking for?

290 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:25:16am

re: #286 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Seems that Carl Paladino has himself quite the crew of assistants and advisers. His driver/political adviser got busted on DUI, but changed his name at some point after coming to NYS.

Another failed to report taxes to the IRS (go figure). And still another adviser has been indicted on charges of stealing more than $1 million from Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg’s re-election bid last year. And Mr. Paladino’s campaign chairwoman left a local government position amid claims that she had steered $1 billion in public money to a politically connected investment manager.

Yet another poll finds that the more people get to know Paladino, the less they like him (and find him unfit for the job he seeks).

The guy and his campaign are a complete train wreck. Those comments equating Silver to Hitler were off the hook, and that's not even the worst of it. Given the current political atmosphere, he has a decent chance at the governorship. I become physically ill thinking about it.

291 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:25:25am

re: #284 imp_62

it's slow here atm. let's all become fb friends and find out who cca is gonna marry

She loves baseball. My BIL has a friend at MLB. He can score me tix. Should work, if only for a night. (hope she isn't reading this)

292 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:25:49am

I predict there is going to be a video coming out, recorded within the past couple of years, of her "pulling a train" in the most fantastic and depraved way imaginable. Porn stars will weep at what she did.

Seriously. I think she protests waaaaay too much, and it has already been repeatedly demonstrated she is a compulsive liar.

293 darthstar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:26:42am

re: #291 Cannadian Club Akbar

She loves baseball. My BIL has a friend at MLB. He can score me tix. Should work, if only for a night. (hope she isn't reading this)

My wife is getting me free tix to tonight's Giants game. Marriage is good.

294 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:27:24am

re: #293 darthstar

My wife is getting me free tix to tonight's Giants game. Marriage is good.

True. But I hate the Giants.
/har

295 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:27:29am

Angle & O'Donnell now starring in two candidates, one cup.

296 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:28:14am

re: #293 darthstar

My wife is getting me free tix to tonight's Giants game. Marriage is good.

Actually, hoping for WS tix.

297 darthstar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:28:48am

re: #294 Cannadian Club Akbar

True. But I hate the Giants.
/har

Ah, but it's supposed to get into the 80s in San Francisco today, which means it'll be in the low 70s at game time...a perfect way to spend an evening--drinking beer and eating sushi.

298 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:29:05am

re: #286 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Seems that Carl Paladino has himself quite the crew of assistants and advisers. His driver/political adviser got busted on DUI, but changed his name at some point after coming to NYS.

Another failed to report taxes to the IRS (go figure). And still another adviser has been indicted on charges of stealing more than $1 million from Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg’s re-election bid last year. And Mr. Paladino’s campaign chairwoman left a local government position amid claims that she had steered $1 billion in public money to a politically connected investment manager.

Yet another poll finds that the more people get to know Paladino, the less they like him (and find him unfit for the job he seeks).

I was born and raised in Brooklyn, NYC. This guy sounds no different than the community organizers we had in the neighborhood, you know, people like the Bonanno's, the Columbo's and Gambino's.

299 darthstar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:29:10am

re: #296 Cannadian Club Akbar

Actually, hoping for WS tix.

I've already got my request in...if they make it that far.

300 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:30:11am

re: #297 darthstar

Ah, but it's supposed to get into the 80s in San Francisco today, which means it'll be in the low 70s at game time...a perfect way to spend an evening--drinking beer and eating sushi a hot dog with kraut, onion and mustard.

FTFY

301 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:30:14am

re: #298 Walter L. Newton

I was born and raised in Brooklyn, NYC. This guy sounds no different than the community organizers we had in the neighborhood, you know, people like the Bonanno's, the Columbo's and Gambino's.

No, those guys were straightforward about being crooked. Paladino is a freak - he actually believes he can do the job.

302 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:31:37am

re: #299 darthstar

I've already got my request in...if they make it that far.

San Fran?!!

303 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:31:47am

re: #301 imp_62

No, those guys were straightforward about being crooked. Paladino is a freak - he actually believes he can do the job.

Er... your sarcasm meter broken today? Maybe you missed my meaning?

304 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:32:38am

re: #303 Walter L. Newton

Er... your sarcasm meter broken today? Maybe you missed my meaning?

Sorry, I got it. But Paladino really fucks up my shit.

305 scienceisreal  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:33:12am

re: #274 Cannadian Club Akbar

Speaking of sex videos, check out what Breitbart is up to:

306 darthstar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:35:13am

re: #300 Cannadian Club Akbar

FTFY

heh...I figured 'sushi' would get corrected. Actually, I like a lot of the food at AT&T park...the corned-beef brisket sandwiches are awesome, the crazy-crab sandwich is a buttery delight, and the taqueria makes some kick ass burritos.

Oh, and the Giants clinched the wild-card last night.

307 shutdown  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:36:03am

Ok guys and dolls. I have some errands to run. BBL

308 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:36:32am

re: #306 darthstar

We have grouper sammies. Blackened. I hate sushi. Just me I guess.

309 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:37:19am

re: #298 Walter L. Newton

I was always partial to the Genoveses. After all, they had Vincente "The Chin" Gigante and the Gottis. /

310 Vambo  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:38:19am

Ex-Air Force says aliens tampered with nukes

Yes, that's space aliens.

311 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:38:57am

re: #309 lawhawk

I was always partial to the Genoveses. After all, they had Vincente "The Chin" Gigante and the Gottis. /

I worked with a girl with the last name of Geno. She said she was part of the family. I cannot prove or disprove this.

312 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:39:35am

re: #310 Vambo

Ex-Air Force says aliens tampered with nukes

[Video]Yes, that's space aliens.

Time to build the domes and live under them. That puts walls up in even that direction...

And which color algae do you want for dinner tonight? Red, or the new Green flavor?

/

313 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:40:12am

re: #311 Cannadian Club Akbar

I worked with a girl with the last name of Geno. She said she was part of the family. I cannot prove or disprove this.

You can tell if she was the real deal by checking to see if her middle name is in quotes. It's a dead giveaway. /

314 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:40:18am

re: #312 oaktree

Time to build the domes and live under them. That puts walls up in even that direction...

And which color algae do you want for dinner tonight? Red, or the new Green flavor?

/

Soylent Green is People!!!

315 dragonfire1981  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:40:25am

Well dang it, if it's good enough for Christine O'donnell than it's good enough for America and good enough for me!

PS: I am now officially a Nobel prize winner with three PhDs according to my resume.

316 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:40:35am

re: #309 lawhawk

I was always partial to the Genoveses. After all, they had Vincente "The Chin" Gigante and the Gottis. /

I worked for some of those wiseguys. They all give new meaning to the word sleazebag.

317 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:41:37am

re: #316 NJDhockeyfan

I worked for some of those wiseguys. They all give new meaning to the word sleazebag.

It's pretty much indistinguishable from what would happen if you gave the cast of the Jersey Shore a criminal enterprise to run.

318 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:41:43am

re: #313 Fozzie Bear

You can tell if she was the real deal by checking to see if her middle name is in quotes. It's a dead giveaway. /

She wouldn't do me unless we were dating. Bitch.
//

319 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:41:58am

re: #310 Vambo

Ex-Air Force says aliens tampered with nukes

[Video]Yes, that's space aliens.

Legal or illegal space aliens?

320 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:42:43am

re: #319 NJDhockeyfan

Legal or illegal space aliens?

Undocumented. Shesh.

321 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:43:02am

re: #317 Fozzie Bear

It's pretty much indistinguishable from what would happen if you gave the cast of the Jersey Shore a criminal enterprise to run.

I have never seen that show. I am proud of that. I understand they aren't from NJ at all anyway.

322 darthstar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:43:40am

re: #314 Cannadian Club Akbar

Soylent Green is People!!!

I can't wait until they sell that at the ballpark.

323 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:44:20am

re: #321 NJDhockeyfan

I have never seen that show. I am proud of that. I understand they aren't from NJ at all anyway.

I've never seen the show either, but I have seen the cast, and the image they present speaks volumes.

324 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:44:36am

Iran's Bushehr electricity production hit by 2 month delay

Atomic chief Salehi says delay is the result of severe hot weather and safety concerns, not the complex computer worm that hit staff computers earlier this week.

Heh.

325 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:48:08am

re: #316 NJDhockeyfan

I worked for some of those wiseguys. They all give new meaning to the word sleazebag.

My uncle, now dead, came back from Korea in the 50's with snow white hair, the whole experience destroyed his health. He had small and large heart attacks after the war, for a total of eight. He even was worked on by Debakey once.

He lived in the Bronx, had to be careful what he did for a living, anything too physical was out. He started out as a "bag man" for the family, moved on to shuttling the boys in his taxi cab, and other small time jobs for the family.

When we use to visit his apartment in the Bronx, it was like a family reunion on the Sopranos. As a young kid, I thought it was cool. Hell, they had funny names, the had guns, they let me drink wine, we had a lot of good Italian food (my uncles wife was Sicilian), it was... well... "family."

Gives a new meaning to capitalism. Uncle Bobby did what he had to to feed his family.

326 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:48:21am

OK. I am making 4 pieces of bacon, 3 eggies and toast. I have to go to work without a nap. Eating a bunch won't make me tired. At all.
//see ya'll tonight!!!

327 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:50:05am

re: #326 Cannadian Club Akbar

OK. I am making 4 pieces of bacon, 3 eggies and toast. I have to go to work without a nap. Eating a bunch won't make me tired. At all.
//see ya'll tonight!!!

Mmmmmmm...bacon.

328 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:52:01am

re: #326 Cannadian Club Akbar

OK. I am making 4 pieces of bacon, 3 eggies and toast. I have to go to work without a nap. Eating a bunch won't make me tired. At all.
//see ya'll tonight!!!

I got a 6-12 midnight shift at the store tonight. I will get a nap before I leave.

329 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:55:17am

re: #328 Walter L. Newton

I got a 6-12 midnight shift at the store tonight. I will get a nap before I leave.

Just finished five 12+ hour days in a row. Supposed to be off till Sunday but my boss just called (woke me, actually) and gave me the option to come in Friday night at 10 and stay till 10 a.m Saturday or come in Saturday at about 11 a.m and stay till about 8 p.m to roll in commercials for college football

{sigh}

330 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:58:19am

re: #329 sattv4u2

Just finished five 12+ hour days in a row. Supposed to be off till Sunday but my boss just called (woke me, actually) and gave me the option to come in Friday night at 10 and stay till 10 a.m Saturday or come in Saturday at about 11 a.m and stay till about 8 p.m to roll in commercials for college football

{sigh}

Are you hourly?

331 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:59:14am

Senate report: EPA regulations could kill 800,000 jobs

I guess the government needs to create or save a few more jobs.

332 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:01:25am

re: #330 Walter L. Newton

Are you hourly?

Base salary + O.T.

I have to put in my 40 hours per week between actually being there and PTO (personal time off) hours (vacation,,, doctors appts ,, etc)

Anything over that is O.T on an hourly basis

333 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:03:09am

re: #331 NJDhockeyfan

Senate report: EPA regulations could kill 800,000 jobs

I guess the government needs to create or save a few more jobs.

What makes you think Republicans regurgitating bogus stats from Cato is going to be accurate this time? It's almost certainly bullshit.

334 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:04:07am

re: #330 Walter L. Newton

re: #332 sattv4u2

Base salary + O.T.

I have to put in my 40 hours per week between actually being there and PTO (personal time off) hours (vacation,,, doctors appts ,, etc)

Anything over that is O.T on an hourly basis

((and btw,,,, non of us have put in a "40 hour week" since February,,,every week is at least 55 unless you took the entire week of PTO)

335 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:08:36am

re: #332 sattv4u2

Base salary + O.T.

I have to put in my 40 hours per week between actually being there and PTO (personal time off) hours (vacation,,, doctors appts ,, etc)

Anything over that is O.T on an hourly basis

Of course, I happy to have the job at the store, it's taking care of my obligations, and that's what counts the most, but the thing I can't get use to is the topsy-turvy schedule.

In almost seven months, I don't think I have worked the same exact hours and the same exact shifts two weeks in a row.

I actually applied to Staples yesterday, there is a Staples up here, actually only about 2.5 miles from my house, basically at the end of the road back here where it meets Route 285.

They are looking to fill a number of tech positions, and my 30 years IT background would suit them just fine. And the retail experience I have been getting over the last years should help.

The job would be full time (Kroger is part time, most of the time) and it would the schedule would at least be a little more stable (and no midnights or overnights).

We'll see what happens. I'm not desperate right now, so, if it happens, good, if it doesn't, it's alright... sure would be nice to get back to doing something in my "career path" programming, hardware... all that stuff.

336 iossarian  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:10:48am

re: #331 NJDhockeyfan

Inhofe also thinks that dinosaurs and cavemen coexisted, so I treat his job loss estimate with some skepticism.

337 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:10:54am

re: #333 Killgore Trout

What makes you think Republicans regurgitating bogus stats from Cato is going to be accurate this time? It's almost certainly bullshit.

Well, it's election season so the republicans are going to offer their bullshit while the dems will be going around scaring people with "grandma will be eating dog biscuits and kids will have no schools to go too if the repubs take over"

yawn on both of them!

338 garhighway  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:11:01am

re: #333 Killgore Trout

What makes you think Republicans regurgitating bogus stats from Cato is going to be accurate this time? It's almost certainly bullshit.

And understanding that their ultimate goal is no EPA (no Clean Air Act, no Clean Water Act, no CO2 regulation, etc...) they cannot be terribly credible on this.

340 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:12:20am

re: #333 Killgore Trout

I can relate one particular instance that appears to be justified:

New standards for Portland Cement plants: up to 18 cement plants at risk of shutting down, threatening nearly 1,800 direct jobs and 9,000 indirect jobs;

There's been a move in NY to update and strengthen regulations on cement manufacturing plants in NY - reducing emissions. Opposition to building new or expanding existing plants has meant jobs have gone elsewhere.

The Times had reported that nationwide the tightened regs would affect at least 4 closures (on mercury standards alone).

LaFarge Building Materials Inc. entered into a consent agreement with the feds and NY to install emissions control equipment (it had been one of the biggest mercury emitters among cement manufacturers - and its plant in Ravena was #8 overall).

341 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:13:27am

re: #335 Walter L. Newton

They are looking to fill a number of tech positions

That would be ideal!

Yes, it would incorporate both your tech skills AND now your retail/ people skills

Like you stated, I've been working where I am for 12 years now. I can't recall ever having the same exact schedule more than two weeks (one pay period) in a row. And like your Krogers, we are 24/7 and also 365!

342 garhighway  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:14:28am

re: #340 lawhawk

I can relate one particular instance that appears to be justified:

There's been a move in NY to update and strengthen regulations on cement manufacturing plants in NY - reducing emissions. Opposition to building new or expanding existing plants has meant jobs have gone elsewhere.

The Times had reported that nationwide the tightened regs would affect at least 4 closures (on mercury standards alone).

LaFarge Building Materials Inc. entered into a consent agreement with the feds and NY to install emissions control equipment (it had been one of the biggest mercury emitters among cement manufacturers - and its plant in Ravena was #8 overall).

Ah, the smell of mercury in the morning...

343 iossarian  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:15:11am

re: #342 garhighway

Ah, the smell of mercury in the morning...

If only we allowed more mercury emissions! We could have more jobs that way!

344 garhighway  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:16:20am

re: #343 iossarian

If only we allowed more mercury emissions! We could have more jobs that way!

It would certainly be a boost to the health care industry.

345 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:17:14am

re: #343 iossarian

If only we allowed more the same amount of mercury emissions as we have now! We could have more jobs that way!

I don't think the plants are asking for their emmision levels to be raised

I do see the "new" regulations (as stated in LawHawks 340) want them lowered!

346 iossarian  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:17:17am

re: #344 garhighway

It would certainly be a boost to the health care industry.

A twofer! Shame on those mercury-hating extreme environmental whackos!

347 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:18:18am

re: #341 sattv4u2

They are looking to fill a number of tech positions

That would be ideal!

Yes, it would incorporate both your tech skills AND now your retail/ people skills

Like you stated, I've been working where I am for 12 years now. I can't recall ever having the same exact schedule more than two weeks (one pay period) in a row. And like your Krogers, we are 24/7 and also 365!

That's a point, the media is a 24 hour a day business. Of course, the Staples tech position is a combination of sales and tech service (like Geek Squad stuff), it's not programming, but it put's my hardware/software skills to work. I've done service desk and hardware at companies in the past (use to even throw cable in a manufacturing environment)... there is nothing Staples can call "tech" that I haven't done.

I suspect the job is more sales than anything, I think tech is a nice word for "associate" which is a nice work for "slave" :)

348 Gus  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:23:49am

re: #333 Killgore Trout

What makes you think Republicans regurgitating bogus stats from Cato is going to be accurate this time? It's almost certainly bullshit.

It's from Inhofe. Here's a couple of excerpts:

A recent study by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce gives a glimpse of what EPA’s “absurd results” would like. EPA could be forced to regulate:

260,000 office buildings;
150,000 warehouses;
92,000 health care facilities;
71,000 hotels and motels;
51,000 food service facilities;
37,000 churches and other places of worship;
17,000 farms.

Churches and other places of worship? The EPA?

Then there's this:

GHG Mandates Harm Elderly, Minorities the Most

Not only would small businesses and their employees incur higher costs
under GHG regulation, but consumers too, especially minorities, the poor, and the elderly. This was confirmed in a recent study by Dr. Roger Bezdek,
former director of the Bureau of Economic Analysis at the U.S.
Department of Commerce, now President of Management Information Services:

The study’s major finding is that the CO2 restrictions implied in the EPA regulations would have serious economic, employment, and energy market impacts at the national level and that the impacts on low-income groups, the elderly, Blacks, and Hispanics would be especially severe.”

I think this may be the first time I've seen the reverse of what many call environmental racism. I guess in this case we can call it reverse environmental racism. It's nice to see they have some concern for blacks and Hispanics though. Yeah, I question the motive. Here's the skinny on Dr. Roger Bezdek. He last spoke for the Colorado Mining Association regarding an Xcel Energy hearing. He's also a "Peak Oil" proponent. Given that he is consulting for coal companies he probably sees and end to oil use in the distant future. Seems counter intuitive to a "study" released by Inhofe.

Bezdek's excerpt is from a US Chamber of Commerce testimony that can be found here. In that testimony he states to have consulted for numerous people/companies including VP Al Gore, and from Greenpeace (see footnote 2) to Goldman Sachs.

349 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:24:15am

re: #40 LudwigVanQuixote

I will bet she fails this:

[Link: pewresearch.org...]

By the way, the fact that these are even the questions they chose is depressing. Very few are conceptual or demonstrate any real knowledge other than trivia.

Yet, only 10% of Americans got all 12.

Honestly most of these questions are the sort you would ask an educated person after they were hit in the head, to see if they were ok.

This makes me very sad for their comparative religion poll.

Yeah, that is pathetic.

Good news though: my daughter got her nursing license! She was not told her test score, other than that she "passed" but considering her previous test scores and the fact that she graduated #1 in her class, it's not hard to guess what her score was.

350 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:25:37am

re: #341 sattv4u2

They are looking to fill a number of tech positions

Yes, it would incorporate both your tech skills AND now your retail/ people skills

People skills? No, I don't have any people skills. Like I have told my store manager, every time I'm behind a register, I'm putting on a performance... there is no way, if I was just being "me" could I put up with customers.

351 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:25:49am

re: #347 Walter L. Newton

Speaking of "slave"
When I got up and went downstairs to get a cup of coffee, I noticed wifey has left me a 'to do" list

I could either
A) crawl back into bed and pretend I never saw it
or
B) push my lazy ass away from the puter, go shower and actually get something done
or
C) push my lazy ass away from the puter, go shower and go to lunch and try to get back home and back into bed before she gets back

352 garhighway  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:25:59am

re: #348 Gus 802

The idea that Imhofe gives two shits and a damn about minorities is hilarious.

353 iossarian  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:27:01am

Classic "race to the bottom" strategy in Inhofe's blurb, by the way. Since China has weaker regulations than we do, they're going to make the cement anyway, so we should cut our own regulations!

354 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:27:07am

re: #350 Walter L. Newton

People skills? No, I don't have any people skills. Like I have told my store manager, every time I'm behind a register, I'm putting on a performance... there is no way, if I was just being "me" could I put up with customers.

Walter ,,, those are "people skills" when it comes to retail

355 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:27:25am

re: #351 sattv4u2

Speaking of "slave"
When I got up and went downstairs to get a cup of coffee, I noticed wifey has left me a 'to do" list

I could either
A) crawl back into bed and pretend I never saw it
or
B) push my lazy ass away from the puter, go shower and actually get something done
or
C) push my lazy ass away from the puter, go shower and go to lunch and try to get back home and back into bed before she gets back

Get something done... I always feel good when I get something done.

356 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:28:13am

re: #354 sattv4u2

Walter ,,, those are "people skills" when it comes to retail

Oh... okay... then... I'M GOOD, DAMN GOOD.

357 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:28:55am

re: #355 Walter L. Newton

Get something done... I always feel good when I get something done.

Yeah ,,, you're right ,, but I was planning on the "get something done" to be Thursday and Friday, knowing that I had today and Saturday off

Now that I have to decide which Saturday hours I'm going to work, MY PLAN IS RUINED!!!!

358 Gus  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:28:55am

re: #352 garhighway

The idea that Imhofe gives two shits and a damn about minorities is hilarious.

It is rather odd. I'm wondering if Bezdek will write anything to meet the requirements of his clients. This is also attributable to Bezdek:

In the U.S., the renewables and energy efficiency industries generated 8.5 million jobs, over $900 billion in revenue and more than $100 billion in industry profits in 2006 while providing an important stimulus to the lagging U.S. manufacturing sector.

359 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:30:01am

re: #353 iossarian

Classic "race to the bottom" strategy in Inhofe's blurb, by the way. Since China has weaker regulations than we do, they're going to make the cement anyway, so we should cut our own regulations!

That certainly will help the trade balance!

360 Gus  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:31:12am

re: #358 Gus 802

It is rather odd. I'm wondering if Bezdek will write anything to meet the requirements of his clients. This is also attributable to Bezdek:

That's from:

Renewable Energy and Energy Efficiency: Economic Drivers for the 21st Century
Roger Bezdek, Principal Investigator,
Management Information Services, Inc. for the American Solar Energy Society

361 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:31:30am

re: #356 Walter L. Newton

I used to have great people skills, but it used to be on purpose. Now it's acting.

Getting to where I don't like people anymore. That kind of sucks.

362 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:32:04am

re: #357 sattv4u2

Yeah ,,, you're right ,, but I was planning on the "get something done" to be Thursday and Friday, knowing that I had today and Saturday off

Now that I have to decide which Saturday hours I'm going to work, MY PLAN IS RUINED!!!

Well... I have Thursday and Friday (Friday, that's a surprise) off, so, do you chores today, slack off on Thursday and Friday on LGF (we can rattle some lefties cages) and then take the late shift on Sat.
/

363 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:32:14am

re: #288 NJDhockeyfan

Counter-Terror Operation Stops Trucks On I-20


I wonder what they were looking for?

A TSA spokesman told Channel 2 the event is known as Visible Inter-mobile Prevention and Response, or VIPER, an operation that is conducted with local authorities as a training exercise. The TSA spokesman said the operation is not in response to a specific threat.

364 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:34:49am

re: #362 Walter L. Newton

Well... I have Thursday and Friday (Friday, that's a surprise) off, so, do you chores today, slack off on Thursday and Friday on LGF (we can rattle some lefties cages) and then take the late shift on Sat.
/

Yeah,, sounds like a plan
Theres a festival at my sons school on Saturday (translation,,, fund raiser) so I think working daytime Saturday is out (not that I've already missed dozens of school activities/ holidays/ birthdays ect due to work)

365 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:35:17am

Stomachs growling
Dogs are looking at me
Think I'll go shower, take the dogs to Wendys (McDuff likes the their burgers, Einstein is partial to the chicken) then take them to the park

366 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:36:50am

re: #361 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I used to have great people skills, but it used to be on purpose. Now it's acting.

Getting to where I don't like people anymore. That kind of sucks.

Never really liked people "then"
Still don't now!

But I know what you mean
I HAD/ HAVE to have good people skills with the jobs I've had, especially when I had my own business(s) back north

367 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:37:35am

re: #361 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I used to have great people skills, but it used to be on purpose. Now it's acting.

Getting to where I don't like people anymore. That kind of sucks.

I've never liked people. Typical of being the "fat boy" growing up, I went back and forth between two extremes, introverted and annoying... heck... negative attention was better than no attention.

Had an English teacher who saw something, suggested I get involved in the drama club. Best advice an adult ever gave me. Theatre seems to be a place where being different seemed to be a plus.

Gave me a lot of confidence for the rest of my life, I expanded my avocational interests to the regional entertainment in general, made a few extra bucks doing everything from playing in bar bands, playwriting and to producing magic shows, and I never stopped giving back to theatre over all these years.

The ability to get up in front of a group of people and to "take stage" is a good life skill for anyone.

368 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:45:39am

re: #367 Walter L. Newton Agreed. My years spent on stage with a trumpet in my hand taught me a lot of good skills.

369 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:47:19am

My little guy was selling the heck out of the Boy Scout popcorn this Saturday morning. Working the crowd like a master.

370 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:51:50am

re: #369 prairiefire

My little guy was selling the heck out of the Boy Scout popcorn this Saturday morning. Working the crowd like a master.

As much as I dislike popcorn, I'm a sucker for a kid in the uniform selling it and buy WAY too much

Ah well,,, I take it to work and my co-workers scoff it up

371 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 10:17:55am

re: #199 garhighway

Lucifer's Hammer was a cool book.

IIRC that was about a comet hitting Earth. Regardless, a great SF novel.

372 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 10:23:14am

re: #260 ralphieboy

that would be big of you, or big of me...

Upding for the Groucho line.

373 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 1:21:26pm

re: #349 Alouette

Yeah, that is pathetic.

Good news though: my daughter got her nursing license! She was not told her test score, other than that she "passed" but considering her previous test scores and the fact that she graduated #1 in her class, it's not hard to guess what her score was.

Mazel Tov!

374 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 1:27:47pm

re: #123 scienceisreal

By Christine O'Donnell's standards my CV should say I've attended:

University of Texas
University of Oklahoma
Texas A&M
Stanford
Berkeley
Columbia
Yale
Harvard
Princeton
Cornell
University of Chicago
University of Wisconsin
University of Washington
Duke
University of Kansas
University of Nebraska
Boston University
MIT
University of Colorado
Northwestern
University of Maryland
University of North Carolina

I should really update that.

You seem very much like my sorts of people... By those standards, my CV wold look very similar!

375 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Sep 29, 2010 6:20:43pm

re: #349 Alouette

Yeah, that is pathetic.

Good news though: my daughter got her nursing license! She was not told her test score, other than that she "passed" but considering her previous test scores and the fact that she graduated #1 in her class, it's not hard to guess what her score was.

Congratulations!


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