O’Donnell’s False Oxford Claim Found on Second Website

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When the false claims about her education posted at LinkedIn were discovered, GOP anti-wanking candidate Christine O’Donnell said the information was posted by someone else.

Unfortunately for O’Donnell’s rather transparent attempt to cover up a lie with another lie, now another site has surfaced where the same claims were posted — by an account verified as belonging to Christine O’Donnell: O’Donnell’s Oxford Education Claim On Second Website Was Authored By Her, Says Site Spokesman.

On Thursday, the Democratic National Committee pointed out a second O’Donnell Internet profile also lists the candidate as having studied at the University of Oxford (O’Donnell took a course with the Phoenix Institute on Oxford’s campus). On a Zoom Info entry, the Delaware Republican is described as having received a “Certificate” in “Post Modernism in the New Millennium” at the University of Oxford. The entry, as noted in the top right corner, was “User Verified.”

Resume websites are notorious for scraping information from other sites, which would raise the possibility that the ZoomInfo entry was merely a duplication of what appeared on LinkedIn. But O’Donnell’s biography is described differently in each. And a spokesman for Zoominfo told the Huffington Post that the company has a policy of not grabbing information from its main competitor.

“We scan the web to pull most of our info so it is pulled from a variety of sources just as a starting point,” said Matt Lloyd, a ZoomInfo spokesperson. “We will look at news articles and a variety of different things. We do not actually pull from LinkedIn. LinkedIn has some strong privacy laws and they are our competition so we have been pretty rigid about not taking information from them.”

So where (if not LinkedIn) did ZoomInfo get the false information that O’Donnell attended Oxford? Lloyd said it came from the candidate herself.

“The profile was actually claimed in 2008 which means that she has verified the information and updated it,” he said. “Anyone can go in and claim a profile and update the information… She claimed it in 2008 and then, as I mentioned, we are going out there and looking for stories about her that we probably pulled in. But the education material would have probably been pulled from her own update back in 2008.”

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336 comments
1 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:08:30am

And yet she wouldn't lie to save Jews from Hitler.

Guess she considers getting elected more important....

2 theheat  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:10:29am

Gus posted yesterday she's had the same lies posted on one of her sites since 2006.

3 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:11:11am

Obviously another disgruntled ex-staffer.
/

I can't wait to hear from her resident knight in shining armor to defend her again.

4 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:15:33am

Problem is that these types of revelations only serve to further harden the resolve of the arm waving lunatics already predisposed to vote for her. I give it 30 minutes before this is turned by her campaign into some sort of dark, liberal tainted witch hunt persecution of O'Donnell.

5 efuseakay  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:16:02am

Well then, I guess we aren't Nazis!

6 Mickey Blumental  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:19:52am

I don't see the problem. Just like scientific facts, she can ignore this one and pretend it doesn't exist.

7 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:19:56am

I think she meant she got her degree while WEARING oxford's not when she went to Oxford. She's a fashionable woman and all about the shoes I am sure.

//

8 theheat  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:26:40am

I'm trying to fund Gus' post again. Maybe it was 2006 and not 2008... At any rate, her BS has been out there longer than just recently. It's only now it's being challenged she's running damage control and doing the crazy jazz hands to fend of her critics.

9 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:28:19am

re: #8 theheat

I'm trying to fund Gus' post again. Maybe it was 2006 and not 2008... At any rate, her BS has been out there longer than just recently. It's only now it's being challenged she's running damage control and doing the crazy jazz hands to fend of her critics.

In a perfect world, Taibbi would come across O'Donnell and O'Keefe doing animal kingdom out in the woods while her coven performed a Wiccan ritual.

10 jaunte  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:28:20am

'GOP anti-wanking candidate' never fails to bring a smile.

11 BongCrodny  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:28:24am

The Jesus Shield deflects everything!

12 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:28:40am

re: #8 theheat

I'm trying to fund Gus' post again. Maybe it was 2006 and not 2008... At any rate, her BS has been out there longer than just recently. It's only now it's being challenged she's running damage control and doing the crazy jazz hands to fend of her critics.

I couldn't find anything with "crazy jazz hands" so here is the next best thing....
Image: Funny_Pictures_4164.jpg

13 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:29:08am

re: #11 BongCrodny

The Jesus Shield deflects everything!

Jesus saves the rest of you take full damage.

14 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:30:36am

re: #13 jamesfirecat

Jesus saves the rest of you take full damage.

Another immigrant doing the job American's should be doing on their own!

15 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:30:38am

no link
Reuters has just confirmed that Emanuel will leave the WH to run for mayor of Chicago

16 lostlakehiker  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:31:27am
On Thursday, the Democratic National Committee pointed out a second O’Donnell Internet profile also lists the candidate as having studied at the University of Oxford (O’Donnell took a course with the Phoenix Institute on Oxford’s campus). On a Zoom Info entry, the Delaware Republican is described as having received a “Certificate” in “Post Modernism in the New Millennium” at the University of Oxford. The entry, as noted in the top right corner, was “User Verified.”

Might this more modest claim actually be true? The claim, implicit in the other web page, that she had a degree from the University of Oxford, is of course false.

If she was "at" Oxford, and she did receive a "certificate", then this is not the best proof available that she's a flagrant liar.

Unfortunately for her, it's not the only proof available, either.

17 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:31:38am

Obama aide Emanuel to run for Chicago mayor
White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, one of President Barack Obama’s most powerful aides, is planning to step down on Friday to pursue a run for Chicago mayor, sources familiar with the matter said on Thursday.

Obama is to make an announcement at a White House East Room event on Friday. White House spokesman Robert Gibbs would not confirm Emanuel is the subject of the announcement but the sources said Emanuel’s announcement would come on Friday.

Pete Rouse, a senior adviser who is one of Obama’s longest serving aides, is expected to take over the chief of staff position for the time being. Gibbs would not confirm this, but said Obama would be making two announcements and he spoke warmly of Rouse.

“Pete has been with Senator-elect, Senator, President-elect and now President Obama,” Gibbs told reporters. “There is a complete loyalty and trust with somebody like Pete.”

Emanuel, who worked in Bill Clinton’s White House in the 1990s and served as a member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Illinois, has made no secret of his interest in the mayoral bid.

As chief of staff, he holds broad sway over the White House policy strategy and even over who gets to meet with the president.

18 Jack Burton  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:32:28am

re: #8 theheat

I'm trying to fund Gus' post again. Maybe it was 2006 and not 2008... At any rate, her BS has been out there longer than just recently. It's only now it's being challenged she's running damage control and doing the crazy jazz hands to fend of her critics.

Is this what you were looking for?

19 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:33:23am

re: #16 lostlakehiker

Might this more modest claim actually be true? The claim, implicit in the other web page, that she had a degree from the University of Oxford, is of course false.

If she was "at" Oxford, and she did receive a "certificate", then this is not the best proof available that she's a flagrant liar.

Unfortunately for her, it's not the only proof available, either.

Bit of a reach. If I stood in Harvard Yard while my class was graduating from Western New England College, do I get to say I received my degree while at Harvard?

20 Summer Seale  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:34:33am

Go on, Christine...tell another little lie for Jesus.

21 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:35:11am

re: #16 lostlakehiker

If she was "at" Oxford, and she did receive a "certificate", then this is not the best proof available that she's a flagrant liar.

Yes, it is. If I read "A Brief History of Time" while standing in the courtyard at MIT, it is a lie for me to say I studied physics at MIT.

22 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:37:50am

On the "plus" side, Obdicut and I have been in agreement all day on a variety of issues, a sure sign Armageddon is coming. Soon. So all this election nonsense is irrelevant.

23 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:45:00am

Nice weather we are having. Literally, and figuratively

Youtube Video
24 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:48:07am

In Soviet Russia, Bunny Echoes Man!

25 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:48:37am

re: #23 imp_62

Here in NYC, we're under dark looming clouds. And LGF is having a threadstorm of epic proportions.

I think this is the largest amount of content in the shortest amount of time I've ever seen-- not even counting some great stuff in Pages.

26 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:49:14am

re: #21 Obdicut

Yes, it is. If I read "A Brief History of Time" while standing in the courtyard at MIT, it is a lie for me to say I studied physics at MIT.

I studied advanced strategy and tactics in the USMC Warfighting Lab at Camp Lejeune.

Sure, that was strategy and tactics of Mechwarrior and Medal of Honor, and the IT Dept was just using their computer room so we could watch the matches using the projector during our weekend LAN parties, but my initial statement remains valid.

27 Jack Burton  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:49:22am

re: #24 ralphieboy

In Soviet Russia, Bunny Echoes Man!

In Soviet Russia, sugar like lips!

28 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:50:30am

re: #25 Obdicut

Here in NYC, we're under dark looming clouds. And LGF is having a threadstorm of epic proportions.

I think this is the largest amount of content in the shortest amount of time I've ever seen-- not even counting some great stuff in Pages.

I was going to note that Charles is being very prolific today. This will likely continue through the elections.

29 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:51:45am

...but she wouldn't lie to Hitler to save Jews.

30 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:53:02am

Family values.

31 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:53:22am

re: #25 Obdicut

So far, the rain's staying off to the West, but it's going to be a miserable commute home tonight..

32 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:53:29am

re: #15 imp_62

no link
Reuters has just confirmed that Emanuel will leave the WH to run for mayor of Chicago

I posted it on Pages.

33 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:54:27am

re: #31 lawhawk

So far, the rain's staying off to the West, but it's going to be a miserable commute home tonight..

I was supposed to fly in and out of JFK these last couple of days. Thankfully, the trip was rescheduled.

34 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:55:29am

FWIW, I did get a degree from a guy in a van behind the 7-11. And a slurpee!!
/this can't be good.

35 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:56:15am

re: #34 Cannadian Club Akbar

FWIW, I did get a degree from a guy in a van behind the 7-11. And a slurpee!!
/this can't be good.

And if the police give you the third degree is that part of their asking what happened to the first two???

36 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:56:57am

re: #35 oaktree

And if the police give you the third degree is that part of their asking what happened to the first two???

That is a question for Rouge One.

37 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:57:14am

re: #34 Cannadian Club Akbar

FWIW, I did get a degree from a guy in a van behind the 7-11. And a slurpee!!
/this can't be good.

That was me. And you still owe $1.50 for the slurpee. Federal Student Loans available.

38 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:57:42am

Political time out time: cute tiger cubs at the Bronx Zoo.

Oh, and for those who want a more political bent - how about orangutans (primarily because they are known for slinging the poo).

39 nines09  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:57:43am

I can't wait to listen to Fox and Rush and all the other weasels try to glass this over. What about her other "distractions"? Any answers on this yet?
Keep talking!

40 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:57:51am

I think I'm eating one of my last fast food meals. It's been a very long time but I stopped by Wendy's today and bot a Chicken sandwich combo. $7.50?!?! You gotta be kidding. Not worth it.

41 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:58:27am

re: #38 lawhawk

Political time out time: cute tiger cubs at the Bronx Zoo.

Oh, and for those who want a more political bent - how about orangutans (primarily because they are known for slinging the poo).

Very cute!

42 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:58:42am

re: #38 lawhawk

Political time out time: cute tiger cubs at the Bronx Zoo.

Oh, and for those who want a more political bent - how about orangutans (primarily because they are known for slinging the poo).

They are cute until they chew off a limb.

43 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:58:55am

Yeah. For that money, you can get *counting on fingers* seven $1 meals at McD or BK!

44 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:59:18am

re: #38 lawhawk

Political time out time: cute tiger cubs at the Bronx Zoo.

Oh, and for those who want a more political bent - how about orangutans (primarily because they are known for slinging the poo).

A tiger? In Africa?

45 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:59:35am

re: #40 Killgore Trout

I think I'm eating one of my last fast food meals. It's been a very long time but I stopped by Wendy's today and bot a Chicken sandwich combo. $7.50?!?! You gotta be kidding. Not worth it.

If you go to Wendy's, order a double burger. Or the Chili.

46 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:00:46pm

re: #38 lawhawk

Political time out time: cute tiger cubs at the Bronx Zoo.

Oh, and for those who want a more political bent - how about orangutans (primarily because they are known for slinging the poo).

They're *Malaysian* tigers! Therefore they're sekrit Moose-lims as well. Expect them to be trained and showing up at your door in a few years to take your guns at toothpoint. Feline Overlords indeedy!

///

47 nines09  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:02:36pm

Two double burgers with cheese (buck each) and a bottomless sweet tea with lemon which you can refill as you walk out the door. (1 buck large) $3.18 in Pa.

48 SpaceJesus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:02:47pm

re: #45 Cannadian Club Akbar

double bacon cheeseburger, 99 cents

49 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:02:53pm

re: #46 oaktree

They're *Malaysian* tigers! Therefore they're sekrit Moose-lims as well. Expect them to be trained and showing up at your door in a few years to take your guns at toothpoint. Feline Overlords indeedy!

///

They are enemy combatants. That is why they are in Bronxanamo.

50 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:03:38pm

re: #49 imp_62

They are enemy combatants. That is why they are in Bronxanamo.

And the Amur tigers are obviously commie kitty cats. Thus their incarceration as well.

51 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:03:56pm

re: #47 nines09

re: #48 SpaceJesus

Order a single with cheese, pour chili on top. Yummy.

52 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:04:06pm

You gotta love these moralizing family values types. They're the biggest hypocrites on the face of the Earth. I can list several other incidents which display this and it includes Christine O'Donnell's rampant fabrications and financial distortions. This includes (and I'm including the GOP here): drug and alcohol abuse, teenage pregnancies, closet homosexuals (juxtaposed against anti-gay proselytizing), personal financial problems, and so on. Many of the things that most normal human being are challenged with. However, this is not the case with the these self-anointed hypocritical big mouths.

53 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:04:24pm

re: #50 oaktree

And the Amur tigers are obviously commie kitty cats. Thus their incarceration as well.

What about Tamil tigers?

54 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:06:18pm

re: #52 Gus 802

Gus, please shorten you responses. I need to get this hooker out of here before the wife and kids get home. No time to read.
//Need I?

55 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:06:32pm

Too much fantasy.

56 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:06:44pm

re: #54 Cannadian Club Akbar

Gus, please shorten you responses. I need to get this hooker out of here before the wife and kids get home. No time to read.
//Need I?

Is that you Mr. Vitter?

/

57 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:07:28pm

re: #34 Cannadian Club Akbar

FWIW, I did get a degree from a guy in a van behind the 7-11. And a slurpee!!
/this can't be good.

It must be good. Look how much they gave me!

58 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:08:33pm

re: #50 oaktree

And the Amur tigers are obviously commie kitty cats. Thus their incarceration as well.

There is a Futurama episode in which cats use their innate cuteness to mask their (equally innate) evil intentions and take over the world.

Let's be honest. If I only have the option of being governed by evil paranoid racists, I would rather it be O'Donnell (at least 80s version spaced out kitty kat O'Donnell) than bug-eyed Paladino.

59 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:08:49pm

re: #10 jaunte

'GOP anti-wanking candidate' never fails to bring a smile.

Nickname:

DItalina.

60 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:08:53pm

re: #54 Cannadian Club Akbar

Gus, please shorten you responses. I need to get this hooker out of here before the wife and kids get home. No time to read.
//Need I?

That coke isn't going to snort itself off her ass, get busy already!

61 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:09:18pm

OT- A local talker was pimping the McDonald's insurance story. I sent him a link with statements from Mc'D's denying it. We'll see.

62 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:09:24pm

re: #58 imp_62

"Kittens give Morbo gas."

63 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:10:03pm

re: #60 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

That coke isn't going to snort itself off her ass, get busy already!

None left. It fell in the sores.
/just wrong

64 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:10:21pm

re: #58 imp_62

There is a Futurama episode in which cats use their innate cuteness to mask their (equally innate) evil intentions and take over the world.

Let's be honest. If I only have the option of being governed by evil paranoid racists, I would rather it be O'Donnell (at least 80s version spaced out kitty kat O'Donnell) than bug-eyed Paladino.

In the grim future of Hello Kitty, there is only war...

Image: hello%20kitty%20in%20warhammer%2040k.gif

65 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:12:04pm

re: #58 imp_62

There is a Futurama episode in which cats use their innate cuteness to mask their (equally innate) evil intentions and take over the world.

Let's be honest. If I only have the option of being governed by evil paranoid racists, I would rather it be O'Donnell (at least 80s version spaced out kitty kat O'Donnell) than bug-eyed Paladino.

Which is why Futurama was canceled initially. They came too close to the truth about the fact that the Feline Overlords have already taken over. It was initially missed since Futurama is a satire and cats have a hard time understanding it. When you have dogs there is no need for satire.

66 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:12:08pm

re: #61 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've gotten a couple of emails about the story... and as far as I can make out, the report has the company requesting guidance from HHS over how to provide coverages - whether they may require a waiver or not, but no decision was made to drop coverage.

67 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:13:14pm

re: #65 oaktree

Which is why Futurama was canceled initially. They came too close to the truth about the fact that the Feline Overlords have already taken over. It was initially missed since Futurama is a satire and cats have a hard time understanding it. When you have dogs there is no need for satire.

You don't have to have a sense of satire when you have a soft furry tummy and claws.

68 Yashmak  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:13:30pm

It was a left-wing plant!!!!!!1eleventy!

/

69 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:14:52pm

re: #64 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'll see and raise.

[Link: www.kittyhell.com...]

70 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:14:58pm

re: #66 lawhawk

Some one else posted the ABC story earlier on another thread. So HT to them. Can't remember who.

71 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:16:17pm

re: #69 lawhawk

I'll see and raise.

[Link: www.kittyhell.com...]

My brother's GF is a Hello Kitty freak. I showed her that. Not a big gun fan.

72 avanti  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:16:31pm

re: #66 lawhawk

I've gotten a couple of emails about the story... and as far as I can make out, the report has the company requesting guidance from HHS over how to provide coverages - whether they may require a waiver or not, but no decision was made to drop coverage.

More here.

73 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:17:12pm

re: #69 lawhawk

I'll see and raise.

[Link: www.kittyhell.com...]

Image: HelloKittyMarines.jpg

74 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:19:36pm

re: #73 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Image: HelloKittyMarines.jpg

Image: hello-kitty-combat-boots.jpg

75 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:19:47pm

OT-My radio just said not only is Rahm resigning, he just had a renter of his house just sign a new 1 year lease on his house and Rahm wants the guy out. No link yet. Wait, lemme go look.

76 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:20:59pm

re: #75 Cannadian Club Akbar

OT-My radio just said not only is Rahm resigning, he just had a renter of his house just sign a new 1 year lease on his house and Rahm wants the guy out. No link yet. Wait, lemme go look.

[Link: www.housingwatch.com...]

heh.

77 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:21:53pm

re: #74 imp_62

Image: hello-kitty-combat-boots.jpg

Image: hello-kitty-darth-vader.jpg

78 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:25:11pm

re: #74 imp_62

Image: hello-kitty-combat-boots.jpg

I bet WindUpBird has a pair.
///

79 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:25:35pm

re: #77 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Image: hello-kitty-darth-vader.jpg

Image: hello-kitty-tank.jpg

80 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:25:53pm

re: #53 Cannadian Club Akbar

What about Tamil tigers?

Proof that there can be Hindu-based terrorist groups. Though the Tamil separation issue is/was mainly ethnic instead of religious they got to the point that they wanted to ethnic cleanse their claimed regions of the island, including removing Muslim residents who were at least initially pro-Tamil.

81 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:27:59pm

re: #79 imp_62

Image: hello-kitty-tank.jpg

Image: hello-kitty-castle.jpg

82 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:29:40pm

found at O'Keefe's bedside

Image: hello-kitty-vibrator-black.thumbnail.jpg

83 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:32:35pm

Alan Grayson loves Stan!!! This is from Townhall. com, but funny!!!

[Link: townhall.com...]

84 TedStriker  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:33:40pm

re: #54 Cannadian Club Akbar

Gus, please shorten you responses. I need to get this dead hooker out of here before the wife and kids get home. No time to read, but it's time to bust out the chainsaw and the shovel.
//Need I?

FTFY ;-P

85 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:35:03pm

re: #84 talon_262

Well played.

86 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:35:04pm

re: #84 talon_262

FTFY ;-P

But why would you snort coke off a dead hooker's ass?

87 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:35:48pm

re: #86 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But why would you snort coke off a dead hooker's ass?

As long as she is still warm. Just sayin'.
/

88 TedStriker  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:38:02pm

re: #85 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well played.

*bows*

89 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:38:23pm

re: #86 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But why would you snort coke off a dead hooker's ass?

Don't knock it til you've tried it.

91 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:41:28pm

AFA launches boycott of Home Depot

92 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:42:02pm

re: #89 imp_62

Don't knock it til you've tried it.

How do you know I haven't?

93 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:42:34pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

Has Breitbart Forsaken His Protege James O'Keefe?

When Oliver Willis, who writes for Media Matters, tweeted that "@andrewbreitbart's crew strikes again," Breitbart shot back, "'@andrewbreitbart's crew'? do you want to get sued for libel?"

I am not a Media Matters fan. But saying I will sue you? Pussy.

94 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:42:36pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

Now that's he's no longer useful yes.

95 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:42:56pm

re: #92 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

How do you know I haven't?


I need to party with you!

96 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:44:35pm

re: #93 Cannadian Club Akbar

When Oliver Willis, who writes for Media Matters, tweeted that "@andrewbreitbart's crew strikes again," Breitbart shot back, "'@andrewbreitbart's crew'? do you want to get sued for libel?"

I am not a Media Matters fan. But saying I will sue you? Pussy.

One issue has gone undiscussed. Look at Boudreaux. Look at O'Keefe. What is the likelihood of his getting anywhere in this scheme? She would pass out laughing before he even finished unbuttoning his shirt.

97 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:44:46pm

re: #91 Dreggas

AFA launches boycott of Home Depot

You ever get the impression if these peope could just get in one good, guilt free fuck they might loosen the fuck up a little bit?

98 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:44:55pm

re: #95 imp_62

I need to party with you!

Just don't let the hooker you guys order know wh you are. Sound advice, me thinks!!

99 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:45:16pm

re: #93 Cannadian Club Akbar

When Oliver Willis, who writes for Media Matters, tweeted that "@andrewbreitbart's crew strikes again," Breitbart shot back, "'@andrewbreitbart's crew'? do you want to get sued for libel?"

I am not a Media Matters fan. But saying I will sue you? Pussy.

Robert SPencer used to threaten to sue bloggers all the time. He stopped making legal threats a while ago. It always looks bad.

100 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:46:01pm

re: #93 Cannadian Club Akbar

When Oliver Willis, who writes for Media Matters, tweeted that "@andrewbreitbart's crew strikes again," Breitbart shot back, "'@andrewbreitbart's crew'? do you want to get sued for libel?"

I am not a Media Matters fan. But saying I will sue you? Pussy.

I'm sure Breitbart really wants a lawyer going through all his correspondence as part of the discovery process in a libel lawsuit. Especially when it will be the lawyer for the other side of the suit.

101 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:46:07pm

re: #96 imp_62

One issue has gone undiscussed. Look at Boudreaux. Look at O'Keefe. What is the likelihood of his getting anywhere in this scheme? She would pass out laughing before he even finished unbuttoning his shirt.

But he had broken out the Sex Panther.

102 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:46:28pm

OT:
Funky stuff going down in Ecuador. Ecuadorian President Correa issued a state of emergency and claimed that there was a coup attempt. This all started because police are pissed that the President tried to reduce their benefits and rioted. Some threw tear gas, and the President was overcome by the fumes and taken to a hospital. The country was thrown in to chaos as the police demonstrated:

President Rafael Correa was taken to a hospital after being overcome by tear gas thrown by rebellious officers, local media reported.

Correa later declared a state of emergency and said he was considering dissolving a deadlocked Congress. “It’s a coup attempt," he said in an interview with Radio Publica de Ecuador.

The rebellious officers fired tear gas and burned tires after taking over barracks in the capital Quito, Guayaquil and other cities. They also set up roadblocks that cut off highway access to the capital.

Schools shut down in Quito and many businesses closed due to the absence of police protection.

...

The striking police were angered by a law passed by Congress on Wednesday that would end the practice of giving members of Ecuador's military and police medals and bonuses with each promotion. It would also extend from five to seven years the usual period required for before a subsequent promotion.

103 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:46:35pm

re: #98 Cannadian Club Akbar

Just don't let the hooker you guys order know wh you are. Sound advice, me thinks!!

Haven't you been reading? Kragar only orders dead hookers.

104 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:46:41pm

re: #101 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But he had broken out the Sex Panther.

Is that related to the Aqua Buddha?

105 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:47:27pm

re: #97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You can do it. We can help. /

106 Amory Blaine  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:47:38pm

re: #10 jaunte

'GOP anti-wanking candidate' never fails to bring a smile.

Harry Reid, the pro-wanking candidate.

107 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:47:44pm

re: #104 oaktree

Is that related to the Aqua Buddha?

Youtube Video
108 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:48:09pm

re: #103 imp_62

Haven't you been reading? Kragar only orders dead hookers.

You might need some jumper cables.

109 Jack Burton  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:48:37pm

re: #101 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But he had broken out the Sex Panther.

But he smelled like a used diaper filled with Indian food or a turd covered in burnt hair.

110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:48:49pm

re: #97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Never happen.

111 TedStriker  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:49:55pm

re: #101 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But he had broken out the Sex Panther.

No, it was Blue Steel...

///

112 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:50:24pm

re: #103 imp_62

Haven't you been reading? Kragar only orders dead hookers.

I keep telling them to bake the cake, THEN put the hooker inside.

113 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:50:54pm

OT...
Our friends funeral was this morning.......
Her service was a "Joint"service with the BASTARD Husband
that KILLED HER!!!
WTF were they thinking!!(The family that is)!
I couldn't go!I was truely afraid of what might come out of my
big mouth!
R.I.P. Laurie!

114 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:51:45pm

re: #97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You ever get the impression if these peope could just get in one good, guilt free fuck they might loosen the fuck up a little bit?

So what happened. Did Home Depot actually give partner benefits to an evil, anti-American, communist lovin', Muslim cuddlin', cork snortin' homosexual?

115 iossarian  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:51:58pm

re: #111 talon_262

I'm more of a "Magnum" guy, myself.

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116 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:52:01pm

re: #113 reloadingisnotahobby

OT...
Our friends funeral was this morning...
Her service was a "Joint"service with the BASTARD Husband
that KILLED HER!!!
WTF were they thinking!!(The family that is)!
I couldn't go!I was truely afraid of what might come out of my
big mouth!
R.I.P. Laurie!

That is bigger then WTF. He killed her?

117 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:52:14pm

re: #91 Dreggas

AFA launches boycott of Home Depot

Eleventy! God those people are strange. Here's a comment from some teabagger weirdo over at Resistnet in a post about the AFA dorkiness:

Comment by barbara rock on July 22, 2010 at 10:46pm
wanna talk about perverted ??? ... DISNEY WORLD supports gay rights ... and this past march in florida they had a gay rights march through disney world !!! ... can you imagine the questions the little kids asked thier parents ?!?!?!?!!!!! .... this is OBSCENE !!! ... brought to us ALL compliments of world obama .... the pervert and chief !!!

118 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:52:24pm

Maine GOP Candidate for gov: Vote for me, I'll tell Obama to go to hell

119 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:53:31pm

re: #113 reloadingisnotahobby

Sorry to hear about your friend. my 10 month old niece just passed on Tuesday, know how rough it can be.

120 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:53:51pm

re: #102 lawhawk

OT:
Funky stuff going down in Ecuador. Ecuadorian President Correa issued a state of emergency and claimed that there was a coup attempt. This all started because police are pissed that the President tried to reduce their benefits and rioted. Some threw tear gas, and the President was overcome by the fumes and taken to a hospital. The country was thrown in to chaos as the police demonstrated:

I read that the runway at Quito airport was closed by troops protesting pay.

121 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:54:08pm

re: #117 Gus 802

Disney has had Gay Days for years. I do think they should let people know about them. I've seen some of the pics from them. Not family friendly. But no reason to freak out.

122 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:54:26pm

re: #116 Cannadian Club Akbar

That is bigger then WTF. He killed her?

YUP!

123 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:55:19pm

re: #113 reloadingisnotahobby

OT...
Our friends funeral was this morning...
Her service was a "Joint"service with the BASTARD Husband
that KILLED HER!!!
WTF were they thinking!!(The family that is)!
I couldn't go!I was truely afraid of what might come out of my
big mouth!
R.I.P. Laurie!

A murder/suicide I take it? They probably are still in denial - cut them some slack, perhaps.

124 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:55:27pm

re: #122 reloadingisnotahobby

YUP!

How is he out?!! Or did he get special permission?

125 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:56:08pm

re: #123 imp_62

A murder/suicide I take it? They probably are still in denial - cut them some slack, perhaps.

I misread. My bad.

126 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:56:16pm

re: #123 imp_62

A murder/suicide I take it? They probably are still in denial - cut them some slack, perhaps.

Yes...
I'm busted up over the kids...four!

127 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:57:26pm

re: #126 reloadingisnotahobby

Yes...
I'm busted up over the kids...four!

Well they will need to see some sane, smiling faces - I hope you can be there for them...

128 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:58:04pm

I will never go to a funeral of someone that commits suicide. And I had 2 friends that did. I didn't go to either.

129 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:58:16pm

re: #118 Dreggas

Maine GOP Candidate for gov: Vote for me, I'll tell Obama to go to hell

Ah yes. Another thinking man's candidate...

LePage +10.3

[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

130 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:58:53pm

re: #127 imp_62

I've spoken to the oldest(17)...
He's far better than I thought!
He is very angry tho...

131 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:00:55pm

re: #128 Cannadian Club Akbar

I will never go to a funeral of someone that commits suicide. And I had 2 friends that did. I didn't go to either.

Sometimes, a suicide is as much a victim as a homicide. Context is important, don't you think?

132 b_sharp  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:01:32pm

re: #128 Cannadian Club Akbar

I will never go to a funeral of someone that commits suicide. And I had 2 friends that did. I didn't go to either.

When you go to the funeral you are there for the survivors, not the deceased. Survivors of suicide need as much or more support than others. By avoiding those funerals you are depriving the survivors of your support.

Going to the funeral of a suicide in no way condones the action.

133 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:01:46pm

re: #126 reloadingisnotahobby

Yes...
I'm busted up over the kids...four!

re: #128 Cannadian Club Akbar

I will never go to a funeral of someone that commits suicide. And I had 2 friends that did. I didn't go to either.

Funerals are for the living. Survivors (friends and family) of a suicide could use the support.

Not going is always a valid choice, though.

134 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:02:08pm

A few years back, my Uncle's second wife got a call that her Uncle was killed.

He lived on a farm with his wife of 40 something years. Neighbors hadn't seen either of them for a few days and went over to check on them. They found his wife going around doing chores and asked where her husband was.

"Oh, that son of a bitch is dead."

She had woken up one morning, grabbed the shotgun, shot him as he slept, wrapped his body in the bedding and put his body in the closet. She then about her normal routine for the next couple days until the neighbors found her and then they called the cops.

135 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:03:38pm

Here's the next governor of Maine, Paul LePage, Republican.

Fact Check: Paul LePage, Creationism and Public Schools

Full text of question posed by Maine Public Radio’s Jennifer Rooks: “Do you believe in creationism, and do you think it should be taught in Maine public schools?”

Full text of answer by Paul LePage: “I would say intelligence, uh, the more education you have the more knowledge you have the better person you are and I believe yes and yes.”

136 iossarian  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:04:22pm

re: #134 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Woah.

Remind me to leave the toilet seat down (or is it up?).

137 filetandrelease  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:05:33pm

Dan Websters new add, well not really but funny non the less.

138 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:05:42pm

re: #134 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Moral of the story: Don't EVER hog the covers.

139 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:06:00pm

re: #132 b_sharp

re: #133 wrenchwench

I agree!
I supported the family on both sides last night .
To say I'm not angry would be a lie!
Had a suicide two weeks ago also...she had serious mental
issues.
Been a weird two weeks!

140 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:06:11pm

re: #131 imp_62

re: #132 b_sharp

re: #133 wrenchwench

My friends know my position. I can support them afterward.

141 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:07:07pm

And from June, before the primary.

GOP Candidates for Governor of Maine Would Put Creationism in Public Schools

Do you believe in creationism, and do you think it should be taught in Maine public schools?

Bruce Poliquin: I believe in being intellectually honest, and it’s very important that our schoolkids get both sides of the story. They should be exposed to all these different issues.

Paul LePage: I would say intelligence, uh, the more education you have the more knowledge you have the better person you are and I believe yes and yes.

Bill Beardsley: I would teach creationism.

142 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:09:19pm

Linda McMahon: 'We Ought To Review' The Minimum Wage

Linda McMahon, the Republican candidate for U.S. Senate in Connecticut, suggested Thursday that the U.S. ought to take a second look at the federal minimum wage.

"The minimum wage now in our country, I think we've set that, so there are a lot of people have benefited from it in our country, but I think we ought to review how much it ought to be, and whether or not we ought to have increases in the minimum wage," McMahon said at a press conference.

After the event, "McMahon admitted she didn't know what the current minimum wage is or if any of her employees at World Wrestling Entertainment are paid it," CTNewsJunkie.com reported. McMahon was CEO of the WWE before launching her Senate campaign....

143 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:09:26pm

re: #141 Gus 802
They're hanging themselves with their own rope!!
Creationism in a religion course ONLY!
...An elective course!Of course!!

144 iossarian  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:09:55pm

re: #142 Gus 802

The economy can't get going again until people are earning less!

145 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:10:35pm

re: #144 iossarian

The economy can't get going again until people are earning less!

I'm there.

146 avanti  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:10:35pm

Off topic post for old car and drag racing fans. My friend Ted just set a personal best run in his bone stock 1963 Lark with the optional supercharged R3 engine. Here's the "perfect run" as described by another Studebaker fan. (BTW, Ted is 76 years old, and is in the Hot Rod magazine drag racing Hall of Fame for setting national records since the 60's ")

" The conditions were just right, just perfect, as a matter of fact, for this phenomenal fifth and final run. To wit:

(A) It was now 8:47 in the evening and the temperature was down to 48 degrees; plenty of cool, dense night air for the R3.
(B) The relative humidity was at 74%, not bad, and, furthermore, measured with his gauge too close to the ground, on which dew was settling and could create a false reading.
(C) They had just prepped the track after someone burped at the starting line. They used a propane-fired scraper to heat and clean the track, so the track surface was considerably warmer than the ambient air temperature.
(D) When the speed dropped below 110 MPH on Run #3, he had concluded the blower belt was slipping. So he had removed that belt and thoroughly dressed and installed a second, better-looking, belt before Run #4.
(E) Finally, of course, the R3 was getting limbered up as a fresh engine, with more runs on it.

Ted did a burnout to approach the line for Run #5 and said he couldn't believe how good it felt; excellent bite. He had been coming off the line at 2,500-2,800 rpm, but decided to go for broke and drop the hammer at 3,500 RPM and see if the tires would bite and launch without bogging.

That they did superbly, he said after the run. No bog, no tire spin, the R3 just hunkered down and grabbed asphalt and hurled the car forward with such force that he posted an outstanding 1.845-second 60-foot time.

The launch felt so good he decided he had a chance for the 12.40s, so he wound it up to 6,200 rpm before each shift, whereas he had been shifting at 6,000 rpm, max, all evening. (freshly rebuilt, certified stock engine)
It was a beautiful run to watch; a terrific launch, great shifting, and seemingly (and in fact), no mistakes.

I watched the lights at the end of the strip intensely as he tripped the quarter-mile. When they lit up with 12.203 and 114.16, my jaw dropped incredulously.

We together examined the official timing slip and discovered the astonishing 60-foot time and an eighth-mile performance of 7.882 seconds and 89.40 mph....at the eighth-mile post, for Pete's sake! Never had the car been in the 7s in the eighth, never. "

The car had just made a dyno pull of 374 HP at the rear wheels, not bad for 304 cu.in's since that translates to about 450 at the flywheel.

147 HappyWarrior  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:11:02pm

re: #142 Gus 802

Linda McMahon: 'We Ought To Review' The Minimum Wage

Ha, and they call the Dems elitist. And she doesn't know the current federal minimum wage, Maybe you should stick to wrestling Linda.

148 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:11:08pm

re: #143 reloadingisnotahobby

They're hanging themselves with their own rope!!
Creationism in a religion course ONLY!
...An elective course!Of course!!

That would be fine as an elective in literature. Should take most students 20 minutes top to get a grasp of creationism and move on to other topics.

149 iossarian  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:12:34pm

Maybe minimum-wage employees should start donating part of their paychecks back to their employers? That would be a quick way to get things going again.

150 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:12:44pm

re: #147 HappyWarrior

Ha, and they call the Dems elitist. And she doesn't know the current federal minimum wage, Maybe you should stick to wrestling Linda.

7.25 an hour! That's a lot of money!

If you're living at home with mom and dad and happen to be 17 years old.

/

151 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:14:11pm

re: #150 Gus 802

7.25 an hour! That's a lot of money!

If you're living at home with mom and dad and happen to be 17 years old.

/

???

You live in Oregon. $8.44 an hour.

152 HappyWarrior  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:14:14pm

re: #150 Gus 802

7.25 an hour! That's a lot of money!

If you're living at home with mom and dad and happen to be 17 years old.

/

Yep, nailed it.

153 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:14:22pm

re: #149 iossarian

Maybe minimum-wage employees should start donating part of their paychecks back to their employers? That would be a quick way to get things going again.

Good point. We should raise the taxes on people making minimum wage and lower it even more for the corporations. Eventually the corporations will have increased profits and give their minimum wage employees raises.

/

154 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:14:29pm

re: #150 Gus 802

7.25 an hour! That's a lot of money!

If you're living at home with mom and dad and happen to be 17 years old.

/

I'm actually looking for 40 hours a week at 8 an hour right now. I was making 45K/year 15 years ago.

155 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:15:48pm

re: #151 EmmmieG

And I'm not saying that's a lot. I'm just saying that's the minimum wage in Oregon.

156 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:15:55pm

re: #154 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm actually looking for 40 hours a week at 8 an hour right now. I was making 45K/year 15 years ago.

It's better than being out on the street I suppose.

157 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:16:01pm

re: #150 Gus 802

....9.50 an hour on unemployment for sitting in your back yard drinking Old Milwaukee........../

158 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:16:19pm

re: #156 Gus 802

It's better than being out on the street I suppose.

Not far away.

159 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:16:20pm

mental note, never eat a large amount of spaghetti and meatballs (even if the place that makes them is the bomb) for lunch, then come back to the office.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

160 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:18:07pm

What an airhead:

"McMahon admitted she didn't know what the current minimum wage is or if any of her employees at World Wrestling Entertainment are paid it,"

161 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:18:09pm

re: #159 Dreggas

mental note, never eat a large amount of spaghetti and meatballs (even if the place that makes them is the bomb) for lunch, then come back to the office.

zzz

severe case of qwerty-itis in the offing.

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162 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:18:20pm

re: #157 reloadingisnotahobby

...9.50 an hour on unemployment for sitting in your back yard drinking Old Milwaukee.../

//Dam welfare queens and their $380 dollars a week...

163 b_sharp  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:18:35pm

re: #141 Gus 802

And from June, before the primary.

GOP Candidates for Governor of Maine Would Put Creationism in Public Schools

Do you believe in creationism, and do you think it should be taught in Maine public schools?

Bruce Poliquin: I believe in being intellectually honest, and it’s very important that our schoolkids get both sides of the story. They should be exposed to all these different issues.

False equivalency rears its ugly head again.

Paul LePage: I would say intelligence, uh, the more education you have the more knowledge you have the better person you are and I believe yes and yes.

With no steps taken to prejudge that knowledge based on accuracy, adding knowledge may very well make you a worse person.

Bill Beardsley: I would teach creationism.

Anti-intellectual, anti-science. Will put the US behind many of the 2nd world countries in research and publishing. I suspect it will be soon that papers published by non-Americans will outnumber those by Americans.

164 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:18:59pm

re: #160 Gus 802

What an airhead:

"McMahon admitted she didn't know what the current minimum wage is or if any of her employees at World Wrestling Entertainment are paid it,"

Then she cackled crazily, started spinning around in circles with outstretched arms and helicoptered off to her ranch in the clouds.

165 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:19:28pm

re: #164 imp_62

Then she cackled crazily, started spinning around in circles with outstretched arms and helicoptered off to her ranch in the clouds.

I'd pay to see that.

/

166 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:19:30pm

Just did a remodel at the Work Force Services building I maint...
.for six more case workers!!
I'm in Central Utah .....cannot be good!

167 b_sharp  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:20:21pm

re: #146 avanti

Hot damn.

168 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:21:03pm

re: #162 jamesfirecat

When the drill rig guy are laid off for the winter they earn more on bennies than I do being with the State for 15 years...WTF?

169 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:21:18pm

re: #163 b_sharp


False equivalency rears its ugly head again.


With no steps taken to prejudge that knowledge based on accuracy, adding knowledge may very well make you a worse person.


Anti-intellectual, anti-science. Will put the US behind many of the 2nd world countries in research and publishing. I suspect it will be soon that papers published by non-Americans will outnumber those by Americans.

I think it is important that my children also be taught that disease is caused by small creatures living in the body which feed on sins and that the Earth is the center of the universe and the stars are nothing more than holes in the firmament thru which God's power shines.

TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!

170 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:21:53pm

re: #163 b_sharp

False equivalency rears its ugly head again.

With no steps taken to prejudge that knowledge based on accuracy, adding knowledge may very well make you a worse person.

Anti-intellectual, anti-science. Will put the US behind many of the 2nd world countries in research and publishing. I suspect it will be soon that papers published by non-Americans will outnumber those by Americans.

I'd like to see them start asking a new question: do you agree with the Scopes trial verdict?

171 b_sharp  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:21:54pm

re: #159 Dreggas

mental note, never eat a large amount of spaghetti and meatballs (even if the place that makes them is the bomb) for lunch, then come back to the office.

zzz

I thought you were talking about gas.

172 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:22:18pm

re: #146 avanti

That's cool!
I love Nostalgia Drags!!!

173 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:22:44pm

Ugh, my quote function just went kaput again.

174 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:23:01pm

re: #171 b_sharp

that happens on sausage and peppers with rigatoni days *evil grin*

175 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:23:17pm

re: #173 Gus 802

Ugh, my quote function just went kaput again.

Yeah, mine just went to hell too.

176 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:23:44pm

re: #175 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yeah, mine just went to hell too.

Script anarchy! /

177 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:24:00pm

OK, now it's working again.

178 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:24:18pm

re: #174 Dreggas

that happens on sausage and peppers with rigatoni days *evil grin*

Thanks. Now I know what is for dinner tomorrow. :)

179 JamesWI  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:24:32pm

re: #93 Cannadian Club Akbar

When Oliver Willis, who writes for Media Matters, tweeted that "@andrewbreitbart's crew strikes again," Breitbart shot back, "'@andrewbreitbart's crew'? do you want to get sued for libel?"

I am not a Media Matters fan. But saying I will sue you? Pussy.

Especially when you read the end of that story, where Breitbart has said he pays O'Keefe to post at his site, and that his last post was less than a week ago . . .

Breitbart's hoping that if he lies loud and frequently enough, people will forget that he was proud to count O'Keefe as one of his own. That is, until he does something stupid. Then he'll probably disown him for a couple of weeks until people stop talking about the latest incident. Then he'll be right back on Breitbart's sites, taking Breitbart's money . . . but he's not part of Breitbart's "crew" and he'll sue you for saying that!!!

180 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:24:37pm

re: #177 Gus 802

OK, now it's working again.

I blame the Islamic Supremacist Agenda.

181 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:24:48pm

re: #172 reloadingisnotahobby

That's cool!
I love Nostalgia Drags!!!

This kind:
Image: 1941-Willys--for-sale_260648191371.jpg

or this kind:
Image: 137WhiteParty_ChiChiLaRue.jpg

182 b_sharp  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:25:07pm

re: #177 Gus 802

OK, now it's working again.

You've been punked by gremlins.

183 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:25:25pm

Question: Do you think that creationism/intelligent design should be taught alongside evolution in science class?

Answer: NO!

184 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:25:55pm

re: #173 Gus 802

My "ding bar" shows two +'s on some posts and + and - on
others!
I didn't do it,I promise....

185 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:26:34pm

re: #178 Cannadian Club Akbar

that was supposed to be todays special. The girl said they moved that one to monday. I had to settle for the spaghetti with meatballs (meatballs made from beef, veal and pork).

186 b_sharp  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:27:14pm

re: #181 imp_62


or this kind:
Image: 137WhiteParty_ChiChiLaRue.jpg

Is that a fullback? Or a defencive end?

187 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:27:43pm

re: #183 Gus 802

Question: Do you think that creationism/intelligent design should be taught alongside evolution in science class?

Answer: NO!

I think kids in cooking classes should have to work the lunchroom for a week. Or at least help out. No Jesus fries.

188 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:27:49pm

re: #181 imp_62

I HAD ONE OF THOSE!!!
On the book case above my desk!!!
The cross dresser....No!

189 b_sharp  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:27:51pm

re: #183 Gus 802

Question: Do you think that creationism/intelligent design should be taught alongside evolution in science class?

Answer: NO!

Your answer needs more cowbell.

190 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:29:26pm

re: #186 b_sharp

Is that a fullback? Or a defencive end?

Roberta Muldoon used to be a tight end for the Philadelphia Eagles.

191 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:29:30pm

re: #189 b_sharp

Your answer needs more cowbell.

No! Negative. Ney. Nyet. Absolutely not. Not in my lifetime. Not ever. N-O.

How's that?

192 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:30:32pm

re: #187 Cannadian Club Akbar

The Vo-tech school I went to had a food services program that learned all the ins and outs of restaurant management, food prep, you name it. They made and sold lunch for everyone else in the school. The cosmetology program gave discount hair cuts and for school events the Criminal Justice and Security class (which I was enrolled in) provided security and parking management.

193 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:30:59pm

re: #191 Gus 802

you really need to explore the space with it.

194 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:32:26pm

re: #185 Dreggas

I worked part time for a place. We had SPO, sausage peppers and onions. On pasta or on a amerosa (sp? is wrong) roll.

195 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:32:48pm

re: #191 Gus 802

No... still need more cowbell.

Youtube Video
196 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:34:25pm

re: #192 Dreggas

We have that. A kid that works with me is learning more from me than he does at skool. Now, if I can just get him to drop his Iphone and pay more attention without beating him...

197 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:34:38pm

More from the BIG LIE

198 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:35:34pm

re: #174 Dreggas

that happens on sausage and peppers with rigatoni days *evil grin*

gaaah.

And I'm semi-napping as well. My mix was peppers, onions, and diced tomatoes with herbs over rotini. Served with a breaded chicken patty and freshly grated parmesan cheese.

199 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:36:49pm

re: #197 Dreggas

More from the BIG LIE

I just Paged that. It's very interesting!

200 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:37:42pm

re: #198 oaktree

gaaah.

And I'm semi-napping as well. My mix was peppers, onions, and diced tomatoes with herbs over rotini. Served with a breaded chicken patty and freshly grated parmesan cheese.


You forgot....While wearing your Bunny Slippers and hair up in curlers!
Obviously your at home ..right?

201 BongCrodny  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:38:14pm

re: #142 Gus 802

Linda McMahon: 'We Ought To Review' The Minimum Wage

If it was just Linda McMahon I wouldn't worry so much, but I'd really like to keep her husband as far from the seat of power as possible. The *only* reason that Vince McMahon isn't running is because Linda is a shinier candidate.

202 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:40:03pm

re: #201 BongCrodny

If it was just Linda McMahon I wouldn't worry so much, but I'd really like to keep her husband as far from the seat of power as possible. The *only* reason that Vince McMahon isn't running is because Linda is a shinier candidate.

Though slamming people with chairs as a new* debating tactic in Congress might increase C-Spans ratings...

* - new is old since Preston Brooks was there first.

203 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:41:11pm

re: #200 reloadingisnotahobby

You forgot...While wearing your Bunny Slippers and hair up in curlers!
Obviously your at home ..right?

heh... bunny slippers.

Not at home, just semi-abandoned room today. Been very very quiet.

204 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:41:13pm

re: #61 Cannadian Club Akbar

OT- A local talker was pimping the McDonald's insurance story. I sent him a link with statements from Mc'D's denying it. We'll see.

FWIW, Local talker is bringing up the report I sent him. No HT. Douche.

205 freetoken  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:43:10pm

re: #201 BongCrodny

The WWE is coming under increased scrutiny for its employment practices. It appears for years they have been getting away with things that many companies of similar size could not.

206 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:43:11pm

re: #70 Cannadian Club Akbar

Some one else posted the ABC story earlier on another thread. So HT to them. Can't remember who.

Goes with my #204.

207 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:47:37pm

My weekend starts in15 minutes....
With the LIST I have at home...I'd be better off staying at work!!
Screw the list!
The fall colors are bangin right now!
Maybe we'll go for a drive up the mountians instead!
Have a great weekend!

208 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:47:51pm

Is my brother a geek or what. He tweeted:

How funny! I'm running Firefox 3.6.10 on OS X 10.6.3 !
209 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:48:28pm

re: #208 wrenchwench

Is my brother a geek or what. He tweeted:

LOL LOL LOL.....What?

210 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:48:37pm

re: #207 reloadingisnotahobby

My weekend starts in15 minutes...
With the LIST I have at home...I'd be better off staying at work!!
Screw the list!
The fall colors are bangin right now!
Maybe we'll go for a drive up the mountians instead!
Have a great weekend!

Foliage peak is one of my favourite times of year. Not quite there yet in Western NY... Enjoy!

211 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:49:18pm

OK. Looking into my crystal ball. I'm seeing Facebook as being another internet historical relic within the next 3 years.

212 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:50:19pm

re: #210 imp_62

I was up on top last Friday and took some great shots with my phone!
Elk,colors and reflections off the lakes...hope they turn out !!!

213 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:50:59pm

re: #211 Gus 802

GOOD!!!
Can't get my wife off of it!!!

214 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:51:49pm

re: #213 reloadingisnotahobby

GOOD!!!
Can't get my wife off of it!!!

Opps!
// sorry honey........

215 Gus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:53:03pm

Hasta later.

216 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:53:39pm

re: #199 wrenchwench

Sounds like a twist on the plot line to Machete.

217 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:53:45pm

re: #113 reloadingisnotahobby

{{{reloadingisnotahobby}}}

218 darthstar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:53:49pm

Hey everyone...long fuckin' day at work and it's not even 2pm. I did, however, have a nice lunch at Sushi Sam's...barracuda (not the Sarah variety), flat head, blue fin tuna, blue shrimp, scallops, fatty tuna, butterfish...expensive, but tasty.

Anyway, I managed to get through some of the reporting woes I've been having lately, so I can now declare myself victorious.

Youtube Video

Oh, and the House managed to overcome Republican opposition to pass the 9/11 First Responders bill. That only took a decade.

219 darthstar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:54:40pm

re: #211 Gus 802

OK. Looking into my crystal ball. I'm seeing Facebook as being another internet historical relic within the next 3 years.

Yes, but it just got its own movie...that didn't hurt the Teenage Mutan Ninja Turtles career...oh, wait...yes it did. They're all soup now.

220 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:58:00pm

BBL.

221 freetoken  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:58:09pm

Fun day around the county:
More than 800 lightning strikes recorded in San Diego County
It's unusual for thunderstorms to drift this far west of the mountains, but it's a nice change of pace. First time it's rained in September since at least 2007 where I'm at.

222 darthstar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 1:58:16pm

re: #220 Cannadian Club Akbar

BBLhead.


ftfy

223 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:00:31pm

re: #218 darthstar

Hey everyone...long fuckin' day at work and it's not even 2pm. I did, however, have a nice lunch at Sushi Sam's...barracuda (not the Sarah variety), flat head, blue fin tuna, blue shrimp, scallops, fatty tuna, butterfish...expensive, but tasty.

Anyway, I managed to get through some of the reporting woes I've been having lately, so I can now declare myself victorious.


[Video]

Oh, and the House managed to overcome Republican opposition to pass the 9/11 First Responders bill. That only took a decade.

I love sushi. Then I got myself mixed up with sustainability.

[Link: www.blueocean.org...]

224 Ericus58  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:01:14pm

Update to the co-workers email sent to "EVERYONE IN THE FREE WORLD" Company distribution list.....

Latest count of 'replies' he received - 3800+...
His crackberry finally emitted a high-pitch squeal and expired.

That would have been the second detonation you heard just a bit ago. IT services has shut down his email until the dust settles and then purge it for him.

Oh, and all those that hit the "Reply All" instead of "Reply To" button?
They all failed the IQ test.

225 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:01:46pm

re: #221 freetoken

Fun day around the county:
More than 800 lightning strikes recorded in San Diego County
It's unusual for thunderstorms to drift this far west of the mountains, but it's a nice change of pace. First time it's rained in September since at least 2007 where I'm at.

Nice down pour at my place this morning.

226 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:02:35pm

re: #224 Ericus58

Update to the co-workers email sent to "EVERYONE IN THE FREE WORLD" Company distribution list...

Latest count of 'replies' he received - 3800+...
His crackberry finally emitted a high-pitch squeal and expired.

That would have been the second detonation you heard just a bit ago. IT services has shut down his email until the dust settles and then purge it for him.

Oh, and all those that hit the "Reply All" instead of "Reply To" button?
They all failed the IQ test.

You are the reason the internet is so slow today.

227 freetoken  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:03:02pm

re: #225 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The plants love it, of course. I do to - keeps temps moderate.

228 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:04:56pm

re: #227 freetoken

The plants love it, of course. I do to - keeps temps moderate.

Of course some people seemed to have completely lost the ability to drive this morning.

229 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:06:24pm

re: #221 freetoken

lots of lightning here in OC/LA yesterday, no rain though. I miss a good thunderstorm.

230 Ericus58  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:07:35pm

re: #226 imp_62

You are the reason the internet is so slow today.

Another part of this saga that cracks me up?
All those folks that replied back to "be removed from this distribution list".... must not have read what that list is for - like, all employees.

Does that mean they want to be terminated?!
LOL.

231 darthstar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:08:32pm

re: #223 imp_62

I love sushi. Then I got myself mixed up with sustainability.

[Link: www.blueocean.org...]

Sam's is arguably the best sushi in Northern California. Thursdays are barracuda day. I only go about once a month or so, as it runs about 40 bucks a person by the time you're done eating.

Pretty much everything else I eat is locally and/or sustainably harvested. We get our eggs from a local farm, beef from local ranchers, vegetables from local farmer's market...even our vodka is locally distilled (Hangar One)

232 webevintage  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:08:39pm

Thought I would mention this for you folks who like good TV, I just added Red Riding Trilogy to my Netflix Instant Play Queue.
Never heard of it until someone mentioned it on a Pajiba post about BBC shows.
The trailer makes it look most awesome:

Youtube Video
233 Lidane  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:15:46pm

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I studied advanced strategy and tactics in the USMC Warfighting Lab at Camp Lejeune.

And I studied law at the University of Texas at Austin.

Of course, all I really did was use their law library for research for a community college class I was taking at the time, but by Christine's standards, it totally counts.

234 darthstar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:17:18pm

Oh, dear...Queen Meg wants to take a polygraph to show how honest she is about her policy on hiring undocumented workers to service her mansion.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

235 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:17:55pm

re: #233 Lidane

And I studied law at the University of Texas at Austin.

Of course, all I really did was use their law library for research for a community college class I was taking at the time, but by Christine's standards, it totally counts.

By these standards, I took an intensive course in sexual therapy at Columbia. And at McGill. And Cornell.

236 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:19:32pm

Mondo political burnout, the nation is smoking at the ears.

Gag me with a spoon,

better get a bucket,

and so forth.

237 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:20:23pm

I hate automated phone systems which hide the "Talk to a real person" option.

238 avanti  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:20:43pm

re: #172 reloadingisnotahobby

That's cool!
I love Nostalgia Drags!!!

It's fun to watch and most of the racers are middle aged and real sports. One post on a GTO page was a example. The guy was paired against Ted's Studebaker in the shoot out and said it was bad enough to be beaten by a Studebaker, but by a 76 year old racer too. You seldom see a dozen Studebakers and Rambler or two running against the typical muscle cars.

Watch the hole shot Ted pulls on another GTO. He got enough of a lead that he got off the gas.

Youtube Video
239 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:22:15pm

re: #237 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I hate automated phone systems which hide the "Talk to a real person" option because they strip me of basic human dignity.

FTFY

240 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:22:37pm

re: #238 avanti

That was a Lark, wasn't it?

241 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:22:57pm

re: #235 imp_62

By these standards, I took an intensive course in sexual therapy at Columbia. And at McGill. And Cornell.

Should I mention I graduated cum lauder?

242 darthstar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:23:59pm

re: #240 Ojoe

That was a Lark, wasn't it?

linked that for you.

243 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:24:28pm

Are we raising a generation of nincompoops?

Second-graders who can't tie shoes or zip jackets. Four-year-olds in Pull-Ups diapers. Five-year-olds in strollers. Teens and preteens befuddled by can openers and ice-cube trays. College kids who've never done laundry, taken a bus alone or addressed an envelope.

Are we raising a generation of nincompoops? And do we have only ourselves to blame? Or are some of these things simply the result of kids growing up with push-button technology in an era when mechanical devices are gradually being replaced by electronics?

Susan Maushart, a mother of three, says her teenage daughter "literally does not know how to use a can opener. Most cans come with pull-tops these days. I see her reaching for a can that requires a can opener, and her shoulders slump and she goes for something else."

244 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:26:19pm

re: #241 imp_62

Should I mention I graduated cum lauder?

Jared Svenning: That is, um, my Junior College class ring. Cum Laude, '69.
Brodie: I also hope to cum loud one day, preferably in a 69.

245 darthstar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:26:42pm

re: #243 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Are we raising a generation of nincompoops?

Susan Maushart, a mother of three, says her teenage daughter "literally does not know how to use a can opener. Most cans come with pull-tops these days. I see her reaching for a can that requires a can opener, and her shoulders slump and she goes for something else."

Susan, you're an idiot. I'll bet your daughter can send fifty text messages in two minutes. Tell the kid to learn to use an opener before she ends up dating guys with bloody altars in their garages like Christine O'Donnell does.

246 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:26:58pm

re: #234 darthstar

Oh, dear...Queen Meg wants to take a polygraph to show how honest she is about her policy on hiring undocumented workers to service her mansion.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

I think it would be a good idea for Meg and Santillan to take a lie detector test... just for fun.

247 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:27:32pm

Not everyone's taste, probably. But one of the coolest music videos out there right now, for my money.

Youtube Video
248 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:28:00pm

Claremont Institute Tells TPM O'Donnell's 2002 Resume Listed Oxford University

TPM just spoke with a Claremont official who reviewed O'Donnell's 2002 application file. Ryan Williams, who oversees the Lincoln Fellowship program, told us that O'Donnell lists a certificate from Oxford University on her resume.
249 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:28:10pm

re: #246 Walter L. Newton

I think it would be a good idea for Meg and Santillan to take a lie detector test... just for fun.

It should be like in Blade Runner. If you fail, you are immediately "retired".

250 BongCrodny  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:28:50pm

re: #237 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I hate automated phone systems which hide the "Talk to a real person" option.


Linda from Capital One is in love with me. She calls me all the time.

251 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:29:11pm

re: #245 darthstar

Susan, you're an idiot. I'll bet your daughter can send fifty text messages in two minutes. Tell the kid to learn to use an opener before she ends up dating guys with bloody altars in their garages like Christine O'Donnell does.

My children are unable to form an adze from basalt, make flint arrowheads, or cure ligaments to use as thread to stitch the furs they don't know how to cure. Oh the shame.

252 darthstar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:29:28pm

re: #246 Walter L. Newton

I think it would be a good idea for Meg and Santillan to take a lie detector test... just for fun.

The point is, when someone offers to take a lie detector test, they're basically admitting that they're full of shit.

Oh, and this letter from the Social Security Administration is only the first document in a series, according to Allred.

Lawyer Gloria Allred, who represents Santillan, on Thursday released a copy of a 2003 letter from the Social Security Administration that she called "the smoking gun or smoking document" to prove Whitman knew her housekeeper was working illegally in the United States.

253 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:30:17pm

re: #249 imp_62

It should be like in Blade Runner. If you fail, you are immediately "retired".

I've never got more than 30 minutes into the movie... tried a number of times, have the super-duper directors cut DVD, I found it boring, overly indulgent and heavy handed. But I understand your reference.

254 darthstar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:30:57pm

re: #251 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My children are unable to form an adze from basalt, make flint arrowheads, or cure ligaments to use as thread to stitch the furs they don't know how to cure. Oh the shame.

Can they open a can of tomato sauce? Last I checked, the ability to feed oneself isn't a skill that is no longer necessary in today's world.

255 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:31:04pm

re: #252 darthstar

The point is, when someone offers to take a lie detector test, they're basically admitting that they're full of shit.

Oh, and this letter from the Social Security Administration is only the first document in a series, according to Allred.

Did you read the article... read it again and then tell me who suggested that a lie detector test be taken?

256 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:31:52pm

re: #253 Walter L. Newton

I've never got more than 30 minutes into the movie... tried a number of times, have the super-duper directors cut DVD, I found it boring, overly indulgent and heavy handed. But I understand your reference.

Then read the underlying book instead:
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

257 darthstar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:32:20pm

re: #255 Walter L. Newton

Did you read the article... read it again and then tell me who suggested that a lie detector test be taken?

"Whitman said she would be willing to take a polygraph test, to prove that she was "really stunned" to learn just last year that Nicky Diaz Santillan was an undocumented worker."

I believe her name is Meg.

258 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:32:41pm

re: #255 Walter L. Newton

Did you read the article... read it again and then tell me who suggested that a lie detector test be taken?

Never mind... reread... it's was her.

259 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:33:22pm

re: #257 darthstar

"Whitman said she would be willing to take a polygraph test, to prove that she was "really stunned" to learn just last year that Nicky Diaz Santillan was an undocumented worker."

I believe her name is Meg.

I caught that... see above... the first time I read it, it seemed to read that she was responding to a requst to take a test. My mistake.

260 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:33:52pm

re: #256 imp_62

Then read the underlying book instead:
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

I preferred its movie sequel.

261 darthstar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:34:40pm

re: #258 Walter L. Newton

Never mind... reread... it's was her.

It's all a big misunderstanding...apparently Meg Whitman and Santillan have never actually met.

"She[Meg] said, 'I cannot help you and do not say anything to my children. I will tell them you already have a new job and that you want to go to school and from now on, you don't know me and I do not know you. You have never seen me and I have never seen you. Do you understand me?'"

Classy, that one is...

262 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:35:00pm

re: #254 darthstar

Can they open a can of tomato sauce? Last I checked, the ability to feed oneself isn't a skill that is no longer necessary in today's world.

Well, I'm fairly sure my older girl can feed herself given my wife's common usage of "Who the hell said you could eat that before dinner?"

263 darthstar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:35:36pm

re: #259 Walter L. Newton

I caught that... see above... the first time I read it, it seemed to read that she was responding to a requst to take a test. My mistake.

Actually, I can read it that way too...it is possible a reporter threw out "Will you take a polygraph?" though that's kind of an extreme question to ask on something as trivial as Whitman's hypocrisy.

264 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:35:38pm

re: #260 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I preferred its movie sequel.

The book is a compelling read. I am having a go at it now, having received it for free from my alma mater for some donation-related reason.

265 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:37:04pm

re: #263 darthstar

Actually, I can read it that way too...it is possible a reporter threw out "Will you take a polygraph?" though that's kind of an extreme question to ask on something as trivial as Whitman's hypocrisy.

Don't fucking agree with me... you hear me?

266 darthstar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:37:28pm

Here's the actual document from the SSA...looks kind of authentic.

Image: MN3P1FMCVT.DTL&object=%2Fc%2Fpictures%2F2010%2F09%2F30%2Fba-Whitman01_0502321517.jpg

267 darthstar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:38:00pm

re: #266 darthstar

Here's the actual document from the SSA...looks kind of authentic.


fuck

try this link
[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

268 Jack Burton  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:38:39pm

re: #249 imp_62

It should be like in Blade Runner. If you fail, you are immediately "retired".

Voight-Kampf was an empathy test IIRC. Most politicians would fail in 1 or 2 questions.

269 darthstar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:39:26pm

re: #265 Walter L. Newton

Don't fucking agree with me... you hear me?

Don't fucking tell me not to fucking agree with you. I'll agree with you whenever I damn well want to. Got it? Let's just agree to disagree on whether or not I can agree with you, and nobody will get hurt.

270 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:40:14pm

re: #269 darthstar

Don't fucking tell me not to fucking agree with you. I'll agree with you whenever I damn well want to. Got it? Let's just agree to disagree on whether or not I can agree with you, and nobody will get hurt.

Er... sure... er... pass another beer.

271 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:41:08pm

re: #266 darthstar

Here's the actual document from the SSA...looks kind of authentic.

Image: MN3P1FMCVT.DTL&object=%2Fc%2Fpictures%2F2010%2 F09%2F30%2Fba-Whitman01_0502321517.jpg

An alternate view would be that Diaz lied to Whitman about her status and provided a bogus SS number. I have no horse in this race, but I have a healthy distrust of:
a) Celebrity Lawyers
b) Politicians
c) Letters form the Gubment

Image: bai-bai_letter.JPG

272 tradewind  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:42:02pm

She's way behind, with not much chance of winning. Seems like the DNC ( and by extension, all media but Fox) should spend more time and energy digging up stuff on the Republican candidates who are actually threatening to take away the Dems' seats.

273 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:52:01pm

Is LGF having a problem, or did the thread spontaneously combust?

274 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:52:13pm

Its only a matter of time before she moves on to mashed potatoe sculptures.

Geller uncovers imaginary "Tumbling Star of Davids" in Park51 design

she announces that the "Islamic supremacists get more bold and naked in their motive." While Geller is content to play Magic Eye with artists' renderings in order to argue that the people behind Park51 are anti-Semites, in the real world, Imam Rauf reportedly said that he can "confidently assert that I am closer to my Jewish and Christian brothers...than the Muslim militants carrying a narrow view."

Geller has a long history of finding secret hidden messages in otherwise innocuous images. She has discovered imaginary Islamic crescents in the 2010 Nuclear Summit logo and the design of the Flight 93 memorial. In March, she claimed that a preponderance of "purple" -- actually blue -- neckties on Democratic officials meant that Obama and Democrats were "Flying The Gangsta Colors At The White House." However, if Geller wants to win the race to the bottom for finding absurd architectural reasons for opposing Park51, she'll have to work harder to outdo NewsBusters' "chilling" revelation that the center has four sides and is shaped like a building.

Geller's proclamation that the design includes "tumbling Star of Davids [sic]" is not the only laughable part of her post. After continuing to push the insane idea that Park51 is a "triumphal mosque," Geller claims that non-Muslims will have to pay an "exorbitant jizya" - which she describes as a "tax on non-Muslims living in Muslim lands" - in order to become members at the center.

Following in the tradition of noted idiot Jim Hoft, Geller excerpts a New York Times article that disproves her point:

275 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:53:52pm

re: #273 EmmmieG

Is LGF having a problem, or did the thread spontaneously combust?

idk... goes kind of "dark" for a while, then resumes. Maybe there just aren't many posters today.

276 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:55:42pm

re: #274 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Its only a matter of time before she moves on to mashed potatoe sculptures.

Geller uncovers imaginary "Tumbling Star of Davids" in Park51 design

The "Star of David" is actually not an uncommon theme in Islam
[Link: www.solomonia.com...]

277 TedStriker  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:56:29pm

re: #274 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Its only a matter of time before she moves on to mashed potatoe sculptures eating soft food in a soft room.

Geller uncovers imaginary "Tumbling Star of Davids" in Park51 design

FTFY...Pamz is definitely doubling down on the krayzee nowadays.

278 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:57:58pm

re: #276 imp_62

The "Star of David" is actually not an uncommon theme in Islam
[Link: www.solomonia.com...]

Be that as it may, the architecture as depicted doesn't leap out as Stars of David to me.

279 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 2:59:35pm

re: #274 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Its only a matter of time before she moves on to mashed potatoe sculptures.

Geller uncovers imaginary "Tumbling Star of Davids" in Park51 design

My God, that stupid, stupid, STUPID woman.

280 SpaceJesus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:01:25pm

and now for something completely different out of new mexico...

"Man gets probation in wrong-car defecation"
[Link: www.lcsun-news.com...]

281 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:01:51pm

re: #277 talon_262

FTFY...Pamz is definitely doubling down on the krayzee nowadays.

She attended the same course on interpreting architecture as a vehicle for anti-US conspiracy as Glenn Beck. Remember "Rockefeller Center as Socialist Icon"?

282 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:03:16pm

Here's a spot of good news:

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

283 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:04:17pm

Does anyone else find it ironic that the people who say the Muslims should take it easy over badly drawn cartoons of Mohammed are working themselves into a rabid lather over artist conceptions of what they think is a mosque?

284 SpaceJesus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:05:14pm

re: #283 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)


i kind of just find everything they do or say to be idiotic and go from there

285 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:05:27pm

re: #282 imp_62

Here's a spot of good news:

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Things do seem to be looking up.

286 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:05:55pm

re: #279 SanFranciscoZionist

Just the lizard I was looking for. Do you know much about IEP programs for CA students? We're waiting to hear back from my daughter's school about some additional testing she might need for learning problems.

287 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:06:27pm

re: #284 SpaceJesus

i kind of just find everything they do or say to be idiotic and go from there

Well, thats a given.

288 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:07:24pm

re: #282 imp_62

Here's a spot of good news:

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

And here's some bad news...

WASHINGTON (By Robert Schroeder, MarketWatch) — Companies would get a break on payroll taxes for creating new jobs in the United States under a bill coming up for a vote in the Senate this week.

To get relief from the employer share of the Social Security payroll tax, companies would have to certify that a new U.S. worker is replacing an employee who’d been working overseas.
The Fed’s next steps

Jon Hilsenrath discusses the likelihood that the central bank will move gradually if it decides to act again to stimulate the economy.

[Link: www.marketwatch.com...]

Democrats say the bill, which they want to put to a test vote Tuesday, would help to stop companies from shipping jobs overseas.

289 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:07:24pm

re: #280 SpaceJesus

and now for something completely different out of new mexico...

"Man gets probation in wrong-car defecation"
[Link: www.lcsun-news.com...]

I've been seeing that headline, but I managed to avoid reading that story until you posted it. Even the guy's name adds to the overwhelming oddness of it.

290 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:09:43pm

re: #288 Walter L. Newton

And here's some bad news...

WASHINGTON (By Robert Schroeder, MarketWatch) — Companies would get a break on payroll taxes for creating new jobs in the United States under a bill coming up for a vote in the Senate this week.

To get relief from the employer share of the Social Security payroll tax, companies would have to certify that a new U.S. worker is replacing an employee who’d been working overseas.
The Fed’s next steps

Jon Hilsenrath discusses the likelihood that the central bank will move gradually if it decides to act again to stimulate the economy.

[Link: www.marketwatch.com...]

Democrats say the bill, which they want to put to a test vote Tuesday, would help to stop companies from shipping jobs overseas.

It may as well be a bill titled:
"The bring back low-wage jobs to the US so more people can work below the poverty line Act"

291 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:10:29pm

re: #276 imp_62

The "Star of David" is actually not an uncommon theme in Islam
[Link: www.solomonia.com...]

It's found in all sorts of art, and is a common pattern in Islamic geometric designs.

292 Winny Spencer  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:10:31pm

re: #207 reloadingisnotahobby

My weekend starts in15 minutes...
With the LIST I have at home...I'd be better off staying at work!!
Screw the list!
The fall colors are bangin right now!
Maybe we'll go for a drive up the mountians instead!
Have a great weekend!

Yeah, the autumn colours are absolutely breathtaking right now.

293 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:11:22pm

re: #291 SanFranciscoZionist

It's found in all sorts of art, and is a common pattern in Islamic geometric designs.

Geometry is a part of the Islamic Supremacist Agenda.

294 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:12:13pm

re: #290 imp_62

It may as well be a bill titled:
"The bring back low-wage jobs to the US so more people can work below the poverty line Act"

That's not why I suggested it's a bad bill. This is the part I am questioning... "Companies would get a break on payroll taxes..." I thought the Dems keep complaining that tax cuts for big business and the rich were bad?

295 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:12:37pm

A rare positive game review from Yahtzee.....
Zero Punctuation: Amnesia: The Dark Descent

296 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:13:57pm

re: #294 Walter L. Newton

That's not why I suggested it's a bad bill. This is the part I am questioning... "Companies would get a break on payroll taxes..." I thought the Dems keep complaining that tax cuts for big business and the rich were bad?

Oh, yeah - that too. But when you make it sound like a job repatriation bill, it's ok. And how do you prove that you have fired some poor schmuck in Bangladesh when you hire some hillbilly to do his job?

297 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:14:03pm

re: #286 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Just the lizard I was looking for. Do you know much about IEP programs for CA students? We're waiting to hear back from my daughter's school about some additional testing she might need for learning problems.

I know what I need to as a classroom teacher, but am not a big expert on the process. If the kid is diagnosed with anything that would warrant an IEP I certainly urge having one done for a whole lot of reasons...and being quite, but not insanely, aggressive about having it implemented and regularly met over.

How's she doing academically, what do you think her needs may be, and what sort of testing are they doing, if you don't mind my asking?

298 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:14:40pm

You'd think that as much as Carl Paladino, Rahm Emmanuel, and Andrew Cuomo have been in the news lately, news professionals would at least know how to pronounce their names.
Not so. The yokel talking head on Lubbock's Channel 11 managed to mispronounce all 3 names at least twice in the space of 1 minute at the introduction of tonight's broadcast: "PaluNdino," "Rye-uhm Emmanuel, and Andrew "COO-mo."

I'm wondering what she'll make out of "Netanyahu" or "Ahmedinejad." Probably just say "Israel's prime minister" or "Eye-ran's leader." For that matter, some of the yokels habitually confuse "Israel" and "Israeli," referring to the country itself by the latter denominative term. I'm not really a stickler for this kind of stuff but there has to be some kind of threshold for tolerating gross ignorance. Don't these people watch the national news themselves or pay any attention to it at all?

299 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:16:12pm

re: #298 Shiplord Kirel

You'd think that as much as Carl Paladino, Rahm Emmanuel, and Andrew Cuomo have been in the news lately, news professionals would at least know how to pronounce their names.
Not so. The yokel talking head on Lubbock's Channel 11 managed to mispronounce all 3 names at least twice in the space of 1 minute at the introduction of tonight's broadcast: "PaluNdino," "Rye-uhm Emmanuel, and Andrew "COO-mo."

I'm wondering what she'll make out of "Netanyahu" or "Ahmedinejad." Probably just say "Israel's prime minister" or "Eye-ran's leader." For that matter, some of the yokels habitually confuse "Israel" and "Israeli," referring to the country itself by the latter denominative term. I'm not really a stickler for this kind of stuff but there has to be some kind of threshold for tolerating gross ignorance. Don't these people watch the national news themselves or pay any attention to it at all?

The question is not so much why they do not wtch national news, but why you bother with Lubbock Channel 11 for more than weather and HS sports! Can't be good for your blood pressure....

300 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:17:59pm

re: #297 SanFranciscoZionist

I know what I need to as a classroom teacher, but am not a big expert on the process. If the kid is diagnosed with anything that would warrant an IEP I certainly urge having one done for a whole lot of reasons...and being quite, but not insanely, aggressive about having it implemented and regularly met over.

How's she doing academically, what do you think her needs may be, and what sort of testing are they doing, if you don't mind my asking?

She's in third grade, but many of her skills are at early or mid 2d grade level. She gets frustrated and has problems paying attention. She'll do the work fine one time, then the next day, she'll forget how to do it until she is shown. She also inverts numbers and letters as she is writing. We're waiting to hear back from the school psychologist and also seeing what kind of help my work benefits can give us.

301 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:20:51pm

re: #299 imp_62

The question is not so much why they do not wtch national news, but why you bother with Lubbock Channel 11 for more than weather and HS sports! Can't be good for your blood pressure...

How did you know about my blood pressure?
I watch it for local news that NBC etc. don't cover. I would like to know, for example, if one of my clients has been arrested, or if (as happened today) a drunk driver has smashed through the front of my favorite restaurant, closing it down for a couple of weeks.

302 SpaceJesus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:23:25pm

re: #289 wrenchwench


is it making national news? i just saw in on a friend's facebook

303 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:24:31pm

re: #301 Shiplord Kirel

How did you know about my blood pressure?
I watch it for local news that NBC etc. don't cover. I would like to know, for example, if one of my clients has been arrested, or if (as happened today) a drunk driver has smashed through the front of my favorite restaurant, closing it down for a couple of weeks.

The anchor for one of the local newscasts was so obviously drunk during a newscast last week that I watched the entire thing just to see if he could stay on his chair.

Generally, I get local news from the web, or my Android phone app. And if I see people running screaming through the streets, I will likely turn on the TV.

304 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:25:15pm

re: #300 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

John has one. Do what you need to get one put in place. It's a very valuable tool to make sure she get's all the help she can. Push them hard to get one, then have, at minimum, quarterly meetings with the school on plans and measurables (which should be in the IEP.).

If you want to ask questions, my email is blue. I'm not sure how applicable our experience is, but whatever I can help with I'd be happy to try.

305 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:25:23pm

re: #292 Winny Spencer

Yeah, the autumn colours are absolutely breathtaking right now.

Autumn...colors....?

Trees are still green outside my classroom.

Soon the leaves will turn brown and fall off the tree.

306 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:25:53pm

re: #302 SpaceJesus

is it making national news? i just saw in on a friend's facebook

No, I'm a fellow New Mexican.

307 shutdown  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:26:33pm

re: #305 SanFranciscoZionist

Autumn...colors...?

Trees are still green outside my classroom.

Soon the leaves will turn brown and fall off the tree.

Fucking depressing is what that is. Come to upstate New York in a few days and you will see real beauty.

308 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:26:47pm

re: #293 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Geometry is a part of the Islamic Supremacist Agenda.

Woman who gave a continuing education class for my diocese told us a joke about a geometry teacher who tried to get on a plane with a ruler and protractor. He was arrested on suspicion of being a member of al-Gebra, and carrying weapons of math instruction.

It fell REALLY flat. Everyone blinked politely.

309 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:27:17pm

re: #298 Shiplord Kirel

"COO-mo" is Limbaugh's "intentional" mispronunciation.

310 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:28:55pm

re: #308 SanFranciscoZionist

Woman who gave a continuing education class for my diocese told us a joke about a geometry teacher who tried to get on a plane with a ruler and protractor. He was arrested on suspicion of being a member of al-Gebra, and carrying weapons of math instruction.

It fell REALLY flat. Everyone blinked politely.

Oh that is funny! If I'd been there I'd have been rolling on the floor.

311 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:29:09pm

re: #304 wlewisiii

John has one. Do what you need to get one put in place. It's a very valuable tool to make sure she get's all the help she can. Push them hard to get one, then have, at minimum, quarterly meetings with the school on plans and measurables (which should be in the IEP.).

If you want to ask questions, my email is blue. I'm not sure how applicable our experience is, but whatever I can help with I'd be happy to try.

We just got the ball rolling yesterday afternoon, and the person we needed was out sick today. We've already got the authorization thru our healthcare to get her initial assessment done whenever we want, but I want to see what the school will do before I schedule her appointment. I don't want to duplicate or use up any benefits I might have and find out later the school needed it done a specific way to get her the help she needs.

312 SpaceJesus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:29:28pm

re: #306 wrenchwench

you and albusteve need to take turns buying me dinner

313 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:30:58pm

re: #300 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

She's in third grade, but many of her skills are at early or mid 2d grade level. She gets frustrated and has problems paying attention. She'll do the work fine one time, then the next day, she'll forget how to do it until she is shown. She also inverts numbers and letters as she is writing. We're waiting to hear back from the school psychologist and also seeing what kind of help my work benefits can give us.

The inversion is a very classic sign of dyslexia (forget I said that, the one thing they tell you from day one is that you aren't qualified to diagnose). I would do some extensive testing, and see what the school can suggest.

Main thing to remember with an IEP is that it's only as good as the people using it. If it just sits in a file, it's not much good to anyone, at least until college. It should be something that makes the kid's life easier, not harder.

314 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:31:47pm

re: #307 imp_62

Fucking depressing is what that is. Come to upstate New York in a few days and you will see real beauty.

I lived a couple of years in Massachusetts, and it really is beautiful. I came home anyway.

;)

315 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:32:32pm

re: #310 wlewisiii

Oh that is funny! If I'd been there I'd have been rolling on the floor.

Maybe it was her presentation. Or the fact that we were trapped with her for FOUR hours.

316 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:32:37pm

re: #312 SpaceJesus

you and albusteve need to take turns buying me dinner

Steve is much closer to you than I am. I believe I know a couple of your fellow law students, though. One just started this year, the other (a good-looking, incredibly smart female) has been there a year or so.

317 Winny Spencer  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:33:28pm

re: #308 SanFranciscoZionist

Wow, I actually laughed.

318 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:34:20pm

re: #313 SanFranciscoZionist

The inversion is a very classic sign of dyslexia (forget I said that, the one thing they tell you from day one is that you aren't qualified to diagnose). I would do some extensive testing, and see what the school can suggest.

Main thing to remember with an IEP is that it's only as good as the people using it. If it just sits in a file, it's not much good to anyone, at least until college. It should be something that makes the kid's life easier, not harder.

We're waiting to hear back now how to proceed further, ADD and Dyslexia have both been hinted at, but like you, they don't want to diagnose it. The teacher and the school resource teacher both agreed she could use the assessment and I put my request in writing at our conference yesterday. I'm going to be a pain in the ass until I get her in a program and see progress.

319 SpaceJesus  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:34:45pm

re: #316 wrenchwench


yeah, there are some pretty hot 2Ls here. the 1Ls this year, eh, not so much.

320 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:35:01pm

re: #311 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

We just got the ball rolling yesterday afternoon, and the person we needed was out sick today. We've already got the authorization thru our healthcare to get her initial assessment done whenever we want, but I want to see what the school will do before I schedule her appointment. I don't want to duplicate or use up any benefits I might have and find out later the school needed it done a specific way to get her the help she needs.

Good idea. I've seen parents go through random shrinks, and companies, and sometimes what they produce isn't good. If the school guides you, the odds of everything being compatible goes up.

321 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:35:46pm

re: #315 SanFranciscoZionist

Maybe it was her presentation. Or the fact that we were trapped with her for FOUR hours.

Oh, I can imagine that. My sense of humor is pretty warped too, though :)

322 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:37:20pm

re: #311 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

That sounds like a good plan. We happen to have a very pro-active school so the process hasn't been too bad for us. As SFZ said, though, keep on top of the school once its in place.

323 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:37:31pm

re: #309 wrenchwench

"COO-mo" is Limbaugh's "intentional" mispronunciation.

Didn't know that. Now we know where the talking heads get their background. They'd probably have a litter of kittens if somebody mispronounced "Palin" though.

324 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:40:45pm

re: #323 Shiplord Kirel

Didn't know that. Now we know where the talking heads get their background. They'd probably have a litter of kittens if somebody mispronounced "Palin" though.

Hmm, good idea. I suggest Pal-lin, as in "Palin' around with terrorists" or "Palin' around with secessionists".

325 Ming  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:41:54pm

Hard to imagine what Republicans see in Christine O'Donnell, except that she's white and attractive. It sure works for Palin.

326 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:43:10pm

re: #318 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

We're waiting to hear back now how to proceed further, ADD and Dyslexia have both been hinted at, but like you, they don't want to diagnose it. The teacher and the school resource teacher both agreed she could use the assessment and I put my request in writing at our conference yesterday. I'm going to be a pain in the ass until I get her in a program and see progress.

Definitely be a pain in the ass. The pain-in-the-ass assertive parent is the child's first defense against being dropped through the cracks. The kids I've seen who really didn't get the best out of their IEPs tended to have parents who:

1. Were uneducated
2. Didn't speak English well
3. Were scared of the school
4. Didn't want to upset anyone
5. Were unable to get their act together
6. Had situations that made it impossible for them to meet with the teachers and admin (work, other kids, etc.)

(Any combination of these is, of course, possible.)

Of course, it is possible to go a little too far in advocating for your child. There's ONE mom I'm specifically thinking of here...oh my GAWD.

327 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:53:48pm

re: #326 SanFranciscoZionist

+1000 updings for this.

You should be on a first name basis with the principal as well. Preferably on good & friendly terms, but nonetheless.

328 Kragar  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:59:56pm

Just got the call back from the school. They're going to have an inital IEP plan set up for her by the end of next week and they'll be doing a full assessment from there within 60 days. Once I have their data, I can take that in to the Dr under my health benefits and they can attempt to diagnose ADD or other disabilities and come up with treatment from there.

329 prairiefire  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 4:36:16pm

re: #324 wrenchwench

Hmm, good idea. I suggest Pal-lin, as in "Palin' around with terrorists" or "Palin' around with secessionists".

I read Sarah Payoff in a blog response last night.

330 Lidane  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 6:42:15pm

re: #325 Ming

Hard to imagine what Republicans see in Christine O'Donnell, except that she's white and attractive.

Is there anything else? I'm being totally serious here.

Given how low GOP standards are these days (Paladino, Angle, Paul, etc.), it seems that if you find a white spokesmodel who smiles pretty while she's shoveling out the far-right talking points, you'll immediately convince a bunch of starburst-addled morans she's a serious candidate and that you're a serious political party.

331 sagehen  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 6:52:01pm

re: #330 Lidane

Is there anything else? I'm being totally serious here.

Given how low GOP standards are these days (Paladino, Angle, Paul, etc.), it seems that if you find a white spokesmodel who smiles pretty while she's shoveling out the far-right talking points, you'll immediately convince a bunch of starburst-addled morans she's a serious candidate and that you're a serious political party.

Paladino doesn't even smile pretty.

332 Lidane  Thu, Sep 30, 2010 7:12:42pm

re: #331 sagehen

Paladino doesn't even smile pretty.

That's because he's just an ugly human being all the way around. =P

333 Timmeh  Fri, Oct 1, 2010 2:27:34am

But she wouldn't lie to save a Jew from the Nazis.

334 AJStrata  Fri, Oct 1, 2010 6:26:50am

I find her lies about campaign funds much more of a problem. The woman is damaged goods.

335 Yashmak  Fri, Oct 1, 2010 7:02:40am

re: #330 Lidane

Is there anything else? I'm being totally serious here.

Given how low GOP standards are these days (Paladino, Angle, Paul, etc.), it seems that if you find a white spokesmodel who smiles pretty while she's shoveling out the far-right talking points, you'll immediately convince a bunch of starburst-addled morans she's a serious candidate and that you're a serious political party.

No, not really. . and I'm basing that on the comments supporting her at some of the usual suspect right wing sites. All I hear about is how the the left fears her because she's a strong, beautiful, woman. Over and over. It's the boilerplate rebuttal to any criticism of her.

336 morrisab  Fri, Oct 1, 2010 7:18:05am

re: #328 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

If you haven't already read it, I recommend strongly that you get the Wrightslaw book From Emotion to Advocacy. They also have a book out on IEPs. ([Link: www.harborhouselaw.com...]

If you are in the US and you are dealing with a public school system, you need to be as knowledgeable as possible about IEPs. Some public school systems will parse and define you to death. Others simply don't know how to write IEPs with S.M.A.R.T. goals (specific, measurable, attainable, realistic, and timely). A bad IEP will say, "Jack's reading level will increase." A good IEP will say, "Jack is currently reading at a grade level 2.6. Using [specific techniques or programs], Jack will be reading at a grade level of 3.1 by the end of the 2010-2011 school year. We expect to see Jack's reading level increase by .1 each month. The IEP team will meet quarterly to assess Jack's reading progress."

If Jack is young enough, the IEP should also specify that since he can't read well enough yet, he can't be expected to read cursive. This is commonly overlooked by parents and others with common sense, since common sense dictates that a child who can't read or who has trouble reading words/letters by definition has trouble reading cursive, but some teachers say, "well, it doesn't SAY that he can't read cursive in his IEP so therefore he has to read it the way I write it on the board." &c.


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