New Poll: Christine O’Donnell is Going to Need Witchcraft to Win

Before the Tea Party loons had their big Delaware primary victory with Christine O’Donnell, Republican incumbent Mike Castle was favored for an easy win.

Then came the teabaggers; Castle was declared a despicable RINO. The anti-masturbation, anti-evolution religious fanatic candidate was in! The Tea Party’s march to greatness was under way!

They didn’t notice they were marching down a dead end street: Latest poll on Delaware Senate, House races shows Democrats with commanding leads despite Tea Party Republican Effort.

Newark, DE - Newark, DE – Four weeks before Election Day 2010, Delaware Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate Chris Coons holds a commanding 19-point lead over his Republican opponent, Christine O’Donnell. A new poll of 901 Delaware residents conducted by the University of Delaware’s non- partisan Center for Political Communication finds 49% supporting Coons and 30% supporting O’Donnell.

The poll reveals a large number of undecided Delawareans – 13%. Coons’ lead widens to 24 points when the probable decisions of undecided voters are taken into account for the poll’s final estimate, with Coons holding a 61% to 37% advantage. The poll also finds weaker emotional support for O’Donnell among her supporters than Coons has among his. The poll is the first released since long- time Republican incumbent Congressman Mike Castle announced he would not seek a write-in candidacy. Castle was defeated by O’Donnell in Delaware’s September 14 primary.

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120 comments
1 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:18:32am

Witchcraft, thy name is Diebold.

2 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:19:21am

This is what's supposed to happen. If crazy worked, we should all vote Crazy.

3 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:22:19am

But Rush said the only chance for America was to vote for the most Consrvative candidate! Why do the people of Delaware hate America?
/

4 Ziggy Standard  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:25:16am

The Dems need to get the message out loud and clear that Christine O'Donnell = Tea Party = New GOP.

5 mikefromArlington  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:25:59am

I just checked with my Ouija board and she'll do just fine on Nov. 2nd...

6 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:27:08am

re: #4 Jimmah

If they're going to do it this cycle, they're behind the curve. By 2011, it will be in place.

7 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:28:28am

Okay...I've changed my avatar for the playoffs...still have a GD logo on there, of course...

8 Mark Pennington  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:31:01am

re: #7 darthstar

Okay...I've changed my avatar for the playoffs...still have a GD logo on there, of course...

Love it!

9 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:32:03am

re: #7 darthstar

That's what's wrong with Santa Carla, too many damn furries."

10 pharmmajor  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:32:09am

And yet the people of Deleware are ignoring a better candidate for the senate in Jim Rash.

[Link: www.jimrash.com...]

11 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:34:04am

Would accuracy in advertising require them to change names to "Republican'ts" and be the GnoP? ;)

///

12 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:34:14am

re: #8 beekiller

Love it!

That's "Lou Seal" the Giant's mascot...when I went to my first Giant's game several years ago, I said to the people I was with, "What's with the giant gerbil?" Didn't know it was a seal...but now I know the whole story. (and I'm glad it actually wasn't a gerbil...)

13 SpaceJesus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:35:09am

33% is still too damn much

14 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:36:01am

re: #13 SpaceJesus

33% is still too damn much

That comes out to 27% voting party line and 6% just people with shit for brains.

15 calochortus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:36:14am

re: #10 pharmmajor

Logic does not appear to be Mr. Rash's long suit.

"The Congress shall have Power To…provide for the…general Welfare of the United States." Fine. That covers things like roads and bridges. I get that.
But, how does that include an albatross like health care? Or, welfare? Or, bailing out banks and businesses that are "too big to fail?" The term is "general" welfare. That means that we all benefit from it. Not just some of us, but all of us.

I fail to understand why his bridge benefits me in a way that healthcare for someone else's child does not.

16 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:36:44am

Designated hitter...why are AL pitchers such pussies?

17 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:37:24am

re: #16 darthstar

Designated hitter...why are AL pitchers such pussies?

Worked for Al Capone...

18 SpaceJesus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:38:20am

re: #14 darthstar


im not sure if those two things aren't one in the same actually

19 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:38:41am

re: #10 pharmmajor

And yet the people of Deleware are ignoring a better candidate for the senate in Jim Rash.

[Link: www.jimrash.com...]

He's an anti-science loon.

Issue: Global Warming

Well, Washington’s finally found a way to declare War on the Weather. The research doesn’t support it.

Don't you bother researching these assholes before you promote them as 'better'?

20 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:39:10am

re: #18 SpaceJesus

im not sure if those two things aren't one in the same actually

Good point.

21 iossarian  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:39:51am

re: #15 calochortus

Logic does not appear to be Mr. Rash's long suit.


I fail to understand why his bridge benefits me in a way that healthcare for someone else's child does not.

Such an idiot. Presumably he thinks that everyone spends their whole fucking life driving around the country in order to benefit from every single road and bridge.

22 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:40:07am

re: #10 pharmmajor

And yet the people of Deleware are ignoring a better candidate for the senate in Jim Rash.

[Link: www.jimrash.com...]

Fail.

23 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:41:00am

re: #19 Obdicut

He's an anti-science loon.


Don't you bother researching these assholes before you promote them as 'better'?

I'm writing in Brick Tamland for every elected office and there is nothing you can do about it!
/

24 Carlos Machina  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:41:02am

I doubt Ms. O'Donnell expected to win in the first place, and will not be disappointed, too much, when she inevitably loses.

She's in it for the money. Her track record shows that. She's a professional candidate, and she can't be that if she wins.

She'll live for years on the money she's raised, running for this office and that to justify her spending of the money. This current campaign has kept her eating at fine restaurants for a year, and that will continue.

Plus, she'll probably get a pundit gig somewhere.

Carlos

25 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:41:03am

re: #10 pharmmajor

And yet the people of Deleware are ignoring a better candidate for the senate in Jim Rash.

[Link: www.jimrash.com...]

Fail.

26 iossarian  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:41:12am

re: #16 darthstar

Designated hitter...why are AL pitchers such pussies?

DH is the worst travesty in sport, followed by basketball's intentional foul rule and TV timeouts (in that order).

27 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:41:51am

re: #10 pharmmajor

And yet the people of Deleware are ignoring a better candidate for the senate in Jim Rash.

[Link: www.jimrash.com...]

Fail.

28 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:42:47am

re: #10 pharmmajor

And yet the people of Deleware are ignoring a better candidate for the senate in Jim Rash.

[Link: www.jimrash.com...]

Win.

29 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:42:51am

re: #22 wrenchwench

He looks like he used to do a lot of blow.

30 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:44:08am

re: #28 wrenchwench

Win.

Except for the "War of Southern Independence" shit.

31 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:44:12am

re: #28 wrenchwench

Win.

Yes, his same-sex marriage and position on marijuana legalization are fine, but he's still a nutter...note his stance on immigration.

32 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:45:56am

re: #30 Decatur Deb

And that his solution is just getting rid of marriage licenses altogether. He doesn't mention replacing them with anything.

33 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:46:24am

re: #10 pharmmajor

And yet the people of Deleware are ignoring a better candidate for the senate in Jim Rash.

[Link: www.jimrash.com...]

"We have ample sources of energy in the forms of oil, coal, and natural gas. These resources should be further developed and utilized to their fullest until such time as renewable energy is made available by, and considered affordable within, the private sector."

Christ, another oil industry shill, global warming denier, gold loving wannabe bank deregulator. When are you going to realize that libertarianism is inherently broken, mired in abject selfism, and antithetical to reality?

34 calochortus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:46:30am

Apparently Mr. Rash believes that the government shouldn't pay for anything he doesn't benefit from. Along with the guy in TN whose house burned down because he didn't subscribe to fire service, I think we have a new motto for conservatives:
American Exceptionalism: " But I didn't think that meant me"

35 SpaceJesus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:47:02am

re: #28 wrenchwench


naw, he just wants to have marriage licenses done away with so he can personally decide which marriages he wants to recognize

36 3eff Jeff  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:47:42am

re: #30 Decatur Deb

Except for the "War of Southern Independence" shit.

He apparently doesn't realize he's on the wrong side of the Mason-Dixon to win points with that name. Probably still better than the Every-time-you-masturbate witch.

37 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:47:46am

re: #33 goddamnedfrank

"We have ample sources of energy in the forms of oil, coal, and natural gas. These resources should be further developed and utilized to their fullest until such time as renewable energy is made available by, and considered affordable within, the private sector."

Christ, another oil industry shill, global warming denier, gold loving wannabe bank deregulator. When are you going to realize that libertarianism is inherently broken, mired in abject selfism, and antithetical to reality?

But they have such fresh young faces.

38 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:48:02am

I think you guys are missing the point with Jim Rash.

How can you not support a fine head of hair like that?

39 BongCrodny  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:48:14am

re: #27 wrenchwench

Fail.


LOL. Get a load of his position on global warming:

"Well, Washington's finally found a way to declare War on the Weather. The research doesn't support it."

40 Yashmak  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:48:46am

I can't wait until we don't have to hear about this gal anymore. Short of Coons having something truly vile surface in the next few weeks, she hasn't even got a snowflake's chance in hell of winning.

41 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:48:56am

re: #10 pharmmajor

And yet the people of Deleware are ignoring a better candidate for the senate in Jim Rash.

[Link: www.jimrash.com...]

Somehow, I don't think the response you received on this Rash fellow was what you expected.

42 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:49:41am

re: #36 3eff Jeff

He apparently doesn't realize he's on the wrong side of the Mason-Dixon to win points with that name. Probably still better than the Every-time-you-masturbate witch.

I'm far on the wrong side of the Mason-Dixon. The times they are a-slowly changin'.

43 Yashmak  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:49:54am

re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I think you guys are missing the point with Jim Rash.

How can you not support a fine head of hair like that?

Seriously. I mean, that's what got John Edwards so far, afterall. /

44 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:50:22am

re: #40 Yashmak

I can't wait until we don't have to hear about this gal anymore. Short of Coons having something truly vile surface in the next few weeks, she hasn't even got a snowflake's chance in hell of winning.

And yet we keep hearing that Palin has a shot in '12.

O'Donnell is probably already being talked about as a show host for Fox.

45 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:50:44am

re: #10 pharmmajor

And yet the people of Deleware are ignoring a better candidate for the senate in Jim Rash.

[Link: www.jimrash.com...]

Buy gold an make abortion illegal!!11ty

I am opposed to abortion. That’s not to say that there is never a reason for a woman or couple to decide that, for her or them, due to unforeseen circumstances, an abortion would be appropriate. That's an issue between the woman or couple and her or their doctor.

I will never vote to federally fund abortions.

Let's see. He's opposed to abortion yet he thinks it can be appropriate at times.

46 Yashmak  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:51:06am

re: #44 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And yet we keep hearing that Palin has a shot in '12.

O'Donnell is probably already being talked about as a show host for Fox.

Thanks. I just up-chucked on my keyboard a bit. :(

47 garhighway  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:51:56am

re: #45 Gus 802

Buy gold an make abortion illegal!!11ty

Let's see. He's opposed to abortion yet he thinks it can be appropriate at times.

I suppose if that was simply a clumsy restatement of "safe, legal and rare" it would be OK.

But it is so inarticulate that it is very hard to tell.

48 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:52:08am

re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I think you guys are missing the point with Jim Rash.

How can you not support a fine head of hair like that?

He looks a bit like Richard Lynch (perpetual freakish bad guy in movies)

Image: Richard_Lynch_thumb.jpg

49 avanti  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:53:58am

My prediction: The GOP will win the house with some very extreme candidates and when they don't get abortion outlawed, get prayer in schools outlaw Islam and the rest, the Tea Party types will go nuts.

50 darthstar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:54:42am

re: #47 garhighway

I suppose if that was simply a clumsy restatement of "safe, legal and rare" it would be OK.

But it is so inarticulate that it is very hard to tell.

Well, he's no Basil Marceaux

[Link: politics.freesitenow.com...]

51 3eff Jeff  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:54:51am

re: #42 Decatur Deb

I'm far on the wrong side of the Mason-Dixon. The times they are a-slowly changin'.

I'm solidly of the opinion that the country is better and stronger for having survived the Civil War in one piece. (My wife is Texan and in my in-laws' household, it's the Civil War, and it's history, important history, but history.)

52 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:56:03am
53 avanti  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:56:16am

re: #45 Gus 802

Buy gold an make abortion illegal!!11ty

Let's see. He's opposed to abortion yet he thinks it can be appropriate at times.

I get that, I'm not pro abortion, but I am pro choice. I don't like abortions and would like to see fewer, but support a choice in most cases.

54 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:56:34am

So the Tea Party golden girl is tanking in the polls. No surprise there. I'm glad the people of Delaware have kept their senses about them.

Since her numbers are going down instead of up we should expect the wingnuts to claim victimhood and blame the "librul media" for her demise instead of her own poor performance and highly questionable finances and rhetoric.

55 Nick Schroeder  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:56:58am

They don't want to win. The more Democrats gain control, the more Doomsday books they can peddle to rubes stuck wondering why they'll never be able to afford to move out of the trailer park.

56 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:57:08am

re: #49 avanti

My prediction: The GOP will win the house with some very extreme candidates and when they don't get abortion outlawed, get prayer in schools outlaw Islam and the rest, the Tea Party types will go nuts.

I don't think so. This trend in Delaware is evidence that there is a groundswell waiting to happen and I suspect the Democrats are poised to blow the GOP out of the water... FOREVER.... hahahahahahhah (evil laugh).

57 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:57:11am

re: #48 darthstar

He looks a bit like Richard Lynch (perpetual freakish bad guy in movies)

Image: Richard_Lynch_thumb.jpg

HE WAS THE BOMB IN TRANCERS 2!

58 garhighway  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:57:43am

re: #50 darthstar

Well, he's no Basil Marceaux
[Video]

[Link: politics.freesitenow.com...]

Wow.

Clearly, our buddy Basil has not yet discovered the joys of spell-check, let alone grammar and punctuation.

59 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:57:51am

re: #45 Gus 802

Let's see. He's opposed to abortion yet he thinks it can be appropriate at times.

Translation, if my daughter gets knocked up, I'm paying for the procedure. If some poor street kid gets raped and knocked up, she'd better find a private charity that will pay for her abortion, because my government shouldn't be in the business of enabling poor women to control their bodies.

60 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:58:51am

re: #10 pharmmajor

And yet the people of Deleware are ignoring a better candidate for the senate in Jim Rash.

[Link: www.jimrash.com...]

Banks should be encouraged to own gold (or, perhaps, other commodity with intrinsic value) and allow their customers to tie their deposits to that commodity as a means of reducing the risk of inflationary actions by the federal government.

WTF? There is no such thing as intrinsic value. Everything is only as valuable as people think it is. As the kerfuffle over the fire department shows.

Furthermore there isn't enough gold in the, and maybe in this solar system, to 'back' every dollar in play these days. Is Mr. Rash, a hideously appropriate name by the way, prepared for the massive deflation such a policy as he proposes would cause?

Man, talk about magical thinking.

61 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:58:59am

re: #30 Decatur Deb

Except for the "War of Southern Independence" shit.

OK, lose, I mean fail.

62 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:00:05am

re: #60 Romantic Heretic

WTF? There is no such thing as intrinsic value. Everything is only as valuable as people think it is. As the kerfuffle over the fire department shows.

Furthermore there isn't enough gold in the, and maybe in this solar system, to 'back' every dollar in play these days. Is Mr. Rash, a hideously appropriate name by the way, prepared for the massive deflation such a policy as he proposes would cause?

Man, talk about magical thinking.

Typical tea party "thought".

63 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:00:06am

re: #53 avanti

I get that, I'm not pro abortion, but I am pro choice. I don't like abortions and would like to see fewer, but support a choice in most cases.

He doesn't state that he is pro-choice even though it could be inferred. He simply says "I am opposed to abortion" but then goes on to say he thinks it's OK in certain circumstances. I'll assume he means it's appropriate for suburbanites considering he's against any federal funding.

64 calochortus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:00:22am

re: #60 Romantic Heretic

Its always more fun to be the outsider with no chance of actually having to implement the policies you espouse.

65 Big Steve  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:01:12am

A female friend who is a avid LGF fan mentioned to me a few weeks ago that she has noticed on this site that when a stock photo is used to accompany a article regarding a female conservative, the photo is more likely to be "less than flattering" than if the article is about a male. I told her she was being too sensitive. She just texted to say look over the last day or so. Well there are negative stock photos of Geller, O'Donnell, and Angle (although I would argue that Sharon Angle's photo isn't too bad!)

Someone please point me so recent posts where the males have been similarly negatively pictured so I can defend.

66 garhighway  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:02:27am

re: #49 avanti

My prediction: The GOP will win the house with some very extreme candidates and when they don't get abortion outlawed, get prayer in schools outlaw Islam and the rest, the Tea Party types will go nuts.

They'll win the House and we'll see a couple of years of gridlock.

It will be ugly: lots of investigations and hearings, lots of votes that exist solely for the purpose of making the other guy vote on something ugly.

It will be like the last two years, only worse.

What happens after that will depend on what happens with the economy, what happens in Afghanistan and whether the House majority overreaches and pisses people off.

67 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:02:29am

re: #61 wrenchwench

OK, lose, I mean fail.

Libertarians have something to please everyone for the first 5 minutes.

68 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:02:32am

re: #65 Big Steve

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

69 garhighway  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:03:08am

re: #65 Big Steve

A female friend who is a avid LGF fan mentioned to me a few weeks ago that she has noticed on this site that when a stock photo is used to accompany a article regarding a female conservative, the photo is more likely to be "less than flattering" than if the article is about a male. I told her she was being too sensitive. She just texted to say look over the last day or so. Well there are negative stock photos of Geller, O'Donnell, and Angle (although I would argue that Sharon Angle's photo isn't too bad!)

Someone please point me so recent posts where the males have been similarly negatively pictured so I can defend.

Are you or your imaginary friend "concerned"?

70 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:03:14am

re: #65 Big Steve

A female friend who is a avid LGF fan mentioned to me a few weeks ago that she has noticed on this site that when a stock photo is used to accompany a article regarding a female conservative, the photo is more likely to be "less than flattering" than if the article is about a male. I told her she was being too sensitive. She just texted to say look over the last day or so. Well there are negative stock photos of Geller, O'Donnell, and Angle (although I would argue that Sharon Angle's photo isn't too bad!)

Someone please point me so recent posts where the males have been similarly negatively pictured so I can defend.

Pick any picture of Glenn Beck.

71 Bubblehead II  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:03:44am

re: #54 Gus 802

So the Tea Party golden girl is tanking in the polls. No surprise there. I'm glad the people of Delaware have kept their senses about them.

Since her numbers are going down instead of up we should expect the wingnuts to claim victimhood and blame the "librul media" for her demise instead of her own poor performance and highly questionable finances and rhetoric.

That might be kind of hard to prove. Even Fox News is running an Opinion piece that is critical of her.

The Weirdest, Most Uncomfortable Political Ad -- Ever

I really liked this shot at her.

"While O'Donnell professes not to be a witch in the ad, she certainly looks like one. She is dressed in black against a black background and talks in a soft tone with a strange look in her eye. It is probably the weirdest most uncomfortable political ad I have ever seen. It was definitely not “spellbinding”, it is horrifying and creepy."

72 dragonfire1981  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:05:17am

I knew this was going to happen.

Supporting extreme viewpoints and hiding from all media except Fox News is NOT an election winning strategy. If she'd had the right campaign and PR team behind her and was convinced to become more moderate on certain stances (or at the very least watch her words and public claims VERY carefully ) She might have had a chance.

And I guarantee you when/if she does lose the Tea Party will claim it was Obama and his socialist friends who conspired against them to cost O'donnell the election. Same goes for Sharron Angle.

73 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:05:31am

re: #65 Big Steve

I think there are just more female nutjob politicians being discussed. Palin, Bachmann, O'donnel, Angle, etc.
I routinely use goofy pics of Beck or Spencer when I post pages. I wouldn't read too much into it.

74 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:06:11am

re: #71 Bubblehead II

That might be kind of hard to prove. Even Fox News is running an Opinion piece that is critical of her.

The Weirdest, Most Uncomfortable Political Ad -- Ever

I really liked this shot at her.

"While O'Donnell professes not to be a witch in the ad, she certainly looks like one. She is dressed in black against a black background and talks in a soft tone with a strange look in her eye. It is probably the weirdest most uncomfortable political ad I have ever seen. It was definitely not “spellbinding”, it is horrifying and creepy."

Well yeah I already said that more or less. Anyone that's going to see that ad is going to think "who is that weirdo saying she's not a witch"?

75 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:06:24am

re: #65 Big Steve

I think the main difference is that most of the stuff about Beck, for example, are videos. He still looks terrible in them, though.

76 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:07:31am

re: #65 Big Steve

A female friend who is a avid LGF fan mentioned to me a few weeks ago that she has noticed on this site that when a stock photo is used to accompany a article regarding a female conservative, the photo is more likely to be "less than flattering" than if the article is about a male. I told her she was being too sensitive. She just texted to say look over the last day or so. Well there are negative stock photos of Geller, O'Donnell, and Angle (although I would argue that Sharon Angle's photo isn't too bad!)

Someone please point me so recent posts where the males have been similarly negatively pictured so I can defend.

Even if it's true that there are more pictures that show women looking bad than there are that show men looking bad, it would not be enough to make a case for sexism here, it would be random information. If it bothers her, it won't be the only thing here that bothers her.

77 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:08:00am

re: #75 Obdicut

I think the main difference is that most of the stuff about Beck, for example, are videos. He still looks terrible in them, though.

I'm fond of this Beck Pic

78 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:08:14am

re: #74 Gus 802

Well yeah I already said that more or less. Anyone that's going to see that ad is going to think "who is that weirdo saying she's not a witch"?

She would have been better laughing the whole thing off, like it was no big deal and we all do weird stuff in college.

(I have some priceless pictures of my older sister and her best friend dressed up like freakazoids just because they were bored.)

79 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:10:01am

Lunch. BBL

80 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:10:26am

I am not, nor at any time have I been, a penguin.

Just wanted to set the record straight on that count.

81 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:10:27am

re: #78 EmmmieG

I could never, ever run for office.

82 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:11:58am

I am not, nor at any time have I been, a flautist.

83 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:12:31am

re: #81 Obdicut

I could never, ever run for office.

Nor I...I've told my college stories here before....The GOP would kill me...LOL

84 Big Steve  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:12:41am

To KGT and GUS 802.....thanks those work

To Garhighway......grow up. I fight my own battles around here. All my friends are real.

85 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:12:58am

re: #78 EmmmieG

She would have been better laughing the whole thing off, like it was no big deal and we all do weird stuff in college.

(I have some priceless pictures of my older sister and her best friend dressed up like freakazoids just because they were bored.)

Imagine if you will Chris Coons making an ad beginning with "I am not a Marxist." Which of course he never was much the same like O'Donnell was never a "witch". To me this is just another flub by O'Donnell and shows extremely poor judgment.

86 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:13:07am

re: #81 Obdicut

I could never, ever run for office.

I could. Plausible deniability is a great thing.

87 Charles Johnson  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:13:39am

re: #76 wrenchwench

Even if it's true that there are more pictures that show women looking bad than there are that show men looking bad, it would not be enough to make a case for sexism here, it would be random information. If it bothers her, it won't be the only thing here that bothers her.

"Flattering/unflattering" can be a matter of opinion. I think idiot GOP candidate Ron Johnson looks like a total doofus (which he is) in the photo for this post:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

And I wouldn't call this pic of Carl Paladino "flattering" either:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

88 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:15:28am

re: #87 Charles

"Flattering/unflattering" can be a matter of opinion. I think idiot GOP candidate Ron Johnson looks like a total doofus in the photo for this post:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

And I wouldn't call this pic of Carl Paladino "flattering" either:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

And when you're working with material like Geller, your hands are pretty much tied, unless you get into corrective photoshop.

89 lostlakehiker  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:15:48am

re: #15 calochortus

Logic does not appear to be Mr. Rash's long suit.


I fail to understand why his bridge benefits me in a way that healthcare for someone else's child does not.

Well, maybe you should think it through until you do understand. You yourself can drive over that bridge. You cannot drive over that child.

Well, you'd better not.

Immunizations for the child DO benefit one and all. They should be provided, free, by the state. Such treatment as may be necessary to allow the child to carry on in school and grow up, likewise. We need adult citizens who can make their own way.

Cosmetic surgery? Lasik instead of eyeglasses? Not so much. At some point, health care verges into personal spending on personal wants, and ceases to be essential.

As to O'Donnell being a loser, you-all heard it here first. I've said from the start that she will lose, where Castle would have had a pretty good chance. The Tea Party has lost sight of a simple reality: from its own perspective, a RINO may not be much of a conservative, but there is nevertheless a gap, politically, between RINO's and Democrats.

A bird in the hand is worth any number of birds in some unreachable bush.

90 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:15:54am

Damn Charles, you shouldn't tempt her. She will probably sacrifice some atheist or Jewish babies on a "satanic" altar "with a little blood and some dead things" to help ensure her win now. :(

/// BTW the actual Wiccans are pissed off, as there is no blood or dead things on their altars. Seems she came across some Aleister Crowley wanna be "witch." Also why hasn't anyone bothered to ask if the "witch" on this "date" she went on was a male or a female? (Personally I'm betting on female, which opens a whole different avenue into her past).

91 Bubblehead II  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:16:32am

re: #74 Gus 802

Well yeah I already said that more or less. Anyone that's going to see that ad is going to think "who is that weirdo saying she's not a witch"?

True you did. What I was trying to point out was that even Fox News is posting an opinion piece that is critical of her and Fox isn't anywhere near being a libural News organization. But you are probably also correct that the wingnuts will insist that it was a vast libural conspiracy anyway.

/Facts, We don't need any stinkin facts.

92 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:16:32am

Gingrich cheats as a historian

“A closing argument is the central choice you want voters to have in mind as they head to the voting booths,” he writes. “It should be very simple and resonate at a personal, emotional level with the American people. In 1980, Reagan’s closing argument was ‘morning in America’ versus the malaise of Jimmy Carter.”

That’s a very nice example, Dr. Gingrich. It makes a nice, simple story, even if it does happen to be flat out wrong.

“Morning in America” had nothing to do with Jimmy Carter or the election of 1980. In fact, actual factual history tells us that Reagan wouldn’t adopt that campaign theme until four years later, in the 1984 campaign against Walter Mondale. But since Mondale doesn’t have the same emotional resonance among Republicans as Carter, Gingrich simply rearranged that history to suit his needs.

Gingrich then goes on to blame the Democrats for creating today’s bad economy, contrasting current unemployment rates and record food stamp usage to what occurred after he and his fellow Republicans took control of the House in 1994:

“In four years, unemployment fell from 5.6% to 4.2% and food stamp usage dropped by 8 million Americans thanks to record job creation. Furthermore, we turned a $107 billion deficit into a $125 billion surplus in four years, paying off more than $400 billion in federal debt. And we did it with a liberal Democrat in the White House.”

Wrong yet again, Dr. Gingrich, particularly in those phrases “we did it …” and “we turned” a deficit into a surplus.

That bit of alternate history — a Gingrich specialty, by the way — neatly sidesteps the fact that in 1993, President Clinton signed into law the second largest tax increase in modern history (for the record, the largest was signed into law by President Reagan in 1982.) The bill was passed without a single Republican vote and with the tie-breaking vote in the Senate cast by Vice President Gore.

93 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:16:54am

re: #89 lostlakehiker

Why are you bringing up cosmetic surgery, though?

94 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:16:56am

re: #65 Big Steve

Pictures that accompanied articles about:

John Raese

Rand Paul

Carl Paladino

Rush Limbaugh

James O'Keefe

95 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:17:21am

re: #87 Charles

"Flattering/unflattering" can be a matter of opinion. I think idiot GOP candidate Ron Johnson looks like a total doofus in the photo for this post:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

And I wouldn't call this pic of Carl Paladino "flattering" either:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Patches Paladino or Carl "I'll Take You Out" Paladino. He still reminds me of The Frog from "Courageous Cat and Minute Mouse".

/

96 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:18:41am

re: #92 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I remember that vote. I remember the GOP's claims of immediate disaster in its wake.

They were wrong.

97 Gus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:19:16am

re: #91 Bubblehead II

True you did. What I was trying to point out was that even Fox News is posting an opinion piece that is critical of her and Fox isn't anywhere near being a libural News organization. But you are probably also correct that the wingnuts will insist that it was a vast libural conspiracy anyway.

/Facts, We don't need any stinkin facts.

Exactly. And they'll bypass Karl Rove's original criticism and Krauthammer. All eyes will be on the LSM!!11ty

98 lostlakehiker  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:19:20am

re: #80 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I am not, nor at any time have I been, a penguin.

Just wanted to set the record straight on that count.

Methinks thou dost protest too much.

Your name begins with P, just like Penguin. There's a U in your screen name, and an E, and a G. And you're probably either white, or black, or, come to think of it, part each. JUST LIKE A PENGUIN.

We can put two and two together.

/wingnut

99 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:19:28am

re: #90 ausador

Damn Charles, you shouldn't tempt her. She will probably sacrifice some atheist or Jewish babies on a "satanic" altar "with a little blood and some dead things" to help ensure her win now. :(

/// BTW the actual Wiccans are pissed off, as there is no blood or dead things on their altars. Seems she came across some Aleister Crowley wanna be "witch." Also why hasn't anyone bothered to ask if the "witch" on this "date" she went on was a male or a female? (Personally I'm betting on female, which opens a whole different avenue into her past).

I'm voting on really cute upper middle class dude, who did it just to aggravate his parents.

We all did things just to annoy our parents in college. My friend put her earring in her nose. I memorized Sylvia Plath, just in case I ever needed to annoy them.

100 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:21:31am

re: #99 EmmmieG

I'm voting on really cute upper middle class dude, who did it just to aggravate his parents.

We all did things just to annoy our parents in college. My friend put her earring in her nose. I memorized Sylvia Plath, just in case I ever needed to annoy them.

Actually the thing she did that annoyed her parents the most was probably she she bought an olive drab green turtleneck. (She's a redhead.)

Her father, the army officer, stared at it. "You bought that? You went out and bought something in that color? I could have gotten you lots of things in that color for free."

101 lostlakehiker  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:23:26am

re: #93 Obdicut

Why are you bringing up cosmetic surgery, though?

Because it's health care, and serves to make my point that not all health care ought to be included in state-delivered insurance or entitlements.

And serves to delimit where I think the boundary should be between what the State should provide indigent children, and what it shouldn't. At the one end, a simple no-brainer, the State should provide immunizations for free. Herd immunity and all that.

At the other end, and this isn't exactly a no-brainer but that's how I see it, tummy tucks are cosmetic surgery and shouldn't be an entitlement. Same with removing epicanthic folds.

Cleft palate etc. is another story entirely and does not count as cosmetic surgery in my book.

102 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:25:23am

re: #99 EmmmieG

I'm voting on really cute upper middle class dude, who did it just to aggravate his parents.

We all did things just to annoy our parents in college. My friend put her earring in her nose. I memorized Sylvia Plath, just in case I ever needed to annoy them.

I refused to get my ear pierced and kept my hair cut short, drove my mom nuts.

103 lostlakehiker  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:25:37am

re: #34 calochortus

Apparently Mr. Rash believes that the government shouldn't pay for anything he doesn't benefit from. Along with the guy in TN whose house burned down because he didn't subscribe to fire service, I think we have a new motto for conservatives:
American Exceptionalism: " But I didn't think that meant me"

If I had been the homeowner, I'd have been stoic about the whole thing.

Thank you for coming in case my family's life had been in danger. Looks like I made a mistake not paying the $75. Heck of a barbecue, isn't it?

104 calochortus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:25:58am

re: #89 lostlakehiker

Right, I could drive over a bridge in Delaware, but since I'm on the other side of the country, its not likely. That child could, as you say, help fuel an epidemic. I don't see a word about free immunizations on that website. Then there is the cost to society of people who lose jobs due to having to care for a sick child, not to mention the common decency of caring for those who can't care for themselves.
However, the reason Rash's argument is deeply flawed in that he thinks healthcare for all is bad because helping an individual does not help everyone at the same time, whereas a bridge is OK because everyone in the country can imagine themselves using it at the same moment. That would be one heck of a traffic jam.
Healthcare would provide for the general welfare because everyone would be eligible. Not everyone would use the same amount, but it would be available based on need. Roads are also not used in the same amount by everyone, but they are available to all whether they use them or not.

105 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:26:30am

re: #101 lostlakehiker

Because it's health care, and serves to make my point that not all health care ought to be included in state-delivered insurance or entitlements.

Nobody was making that argument, though. And it's pretty trivial to understand the difference between cosmetic surgery and health care for, well, health.

Similarly, there is little problem in distinguishing between reparative surgery and cosmetic surgery.

Cosmetic surgery is a corner case. It isn't a useful illustration; it's a red herring.

106 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:27:06am

re: #103 lostlakehiker

If I had been the homeowner, I'd have been stoic about the whole thing.

Yes, I'm quite sure thats exactly what your reaction to seeing your every worldly possession and home burning down would be.

107 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:27:13am

I am not, nor have I ever been, a philatelist.

My daughter did dabble with it a few years ago, but she gave it up.

108 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:27:24am

re: #103 lostlakehiker

They didn't actually come until the neighbor's property was threatened.

And you'd remain 'stoic' as your pets burned to death?

109 calochortus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:34:58am

re: #108 Obdicut

And why didn't they get their pets out of the house-I understand they had quite a bit of time? I know one doesn't always think clearly in an emergency, but tha didn't make a lot of sense to me.

Anyway, must run.

110 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:35:57am

re: #109 calochortus

I think the homeowner just really didn't believe the fire department wouldn't help, especially when he offered to pay whatever they wanted.

I don't know. Animals in a fire often run back inside the house, too. It depends if he had anywhere to put them, outside.

111 calochortus  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:37:24am

re: #110 Obdicut

Probably a combination of reasons.
Really going now...

112 jaunte  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:42:16am

re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I think you guys are missing the point with Jim Rash.

How can you not support a fine head of hair like that?

We saw that same head of hair in 1985, I think:
Image: paul-gleason.jpg

113 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:50:25am

re: #104 calochortus

Right, I could drive over a bridge in Delaware, but since I'm on the other side of the country, its not likely. That child could, as you say, help fuel an epidemic. I don't see a word about free immunizations on that website. Then there is the cost to society of people who lose jobs due to having to care for a sick child, not to mention the common decency of caring for those who can't care for themselves.
However, the reason Rash's argument is deeply flawed in that he thinks healthcare for all is bad because helping an individual does not help everyone at the same time, whereas a bridge is OK because everyone in the country can imagine themselves using it at the same moment. That would be one heck of a traffic jam.
Healthcare would provide for the general welfare because everyone would be eligible. Not everyone would use the same amount, but it would be available based on need. Roads are also not used in the same amount by everyone, but they are available to all whether they use them or not.

Does make you wonder that if you could feed him a couple of nice choice articles about Mexican trucking companies using our highways for making deliveries whether or not he'd suddenly come out with a statement opposed to federal funding of interstate highways.

114 Kragar  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 11:57:56am

re: #112 jaunte

We saw that same head of hair in 1985, I think:
Image: paul-gleason.jpg

What if its the exact same hair, but it just found a new host?

115 3eff Jeff  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 12:01:07pm

re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Quick! Someone get that man a Pontiac Mera!

[Autotrader Ad]

116 Yashmak  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 12:50:22pm

Sre: #87 Charles


And I wouldn't call this pic of Carl Paladino "flattering" either:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Is there such a thing as a flattering picture of that man? He looks like a cross between Dennis Hopper and Donald Trump.

117 po8crg  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 2:23:32pm

Wow, no-one has mentioned Ned Lamont yet. This is the mirror image.

118 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:05:11pm

re: #65 Big Steve

A female friend who is a avid LGF fan mentioned to me a few weeks ago that she has noticed on this site that when a stock photo is used to accompany a article regarding a female conservative, the photo is more likely to be "less than flattering" than if the article is about a male. I told her she was being too sensitive. She just texted to say look over the last day or so. Well there are negative stock photos of Geller, O'Donnell, and Angle (although I would argue that Sharon Angle's photo isn't too bad!)

Someone please point me so recent posts where the males have been similarly negatively pictured so I can defend.

When people want something to have deeper connotations, they'll find them anywhere. Women are more prone to this, parsing every sentence and reading meaning into every action, inaction, or word, but that doesn't mean men don't do it.

Geez, people, relax a little. Sometimes a rose is a rose, not a plot.

119 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:09:54pm

re: #115 3eff Jeff

Quick! Someone get that man a Pontiac Mera!

[Autotrader Ad]

Pontiac Fiero. I liked the looks of that car when it came out. Then I drove one.

120 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Oct 6, 2010 9:10:57pm

re: #117 po8crg

Wow, no-one has mentioned Ned Lamont yet. This is the mirror image.

Where IS Ned Lamont? He seems to have fallen off the political map in a hurry, probably because he lost to an "independent".


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