Sharron Angle Resorts to Blatant Dishonesty

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Sharron Angle’s new attack ad contains a statement that is … no other way to say it … a lie.

The ad asserts that Harry Reid voted to pay for “Viagra for convicted child molesters.” But in reality, what Reid voted against was one of many silly obstructionist amendments to the health care reform bill introduced by Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn, banning insurance coverage for Viagra for convicted sex offenders.

Angle herself might be stupid enough to miss the point of this political maneuvering, but the GOP operatives funding her campaign and coming up with these ads certainly do understand it. It’s simple, glaring dishonesty in plain view.

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(Hat tip: Maddow Blog.)

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213 comments
1 darthstar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:24:52pm

Why does she open her ads with a picture of her holding hands with Harry Reid?

And the Christine O'Donnell look-a-like narrator is a nice touch. I wonder if SHE'S a witch?

2 nines09  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:25:14pm

Lie? Who does she think she is? Christine?

3 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:30:14pm

I would like to clarify that I am not now, nor have I ever been, a triskaidekaphobic.

Tragically, I am an acrophobic. I hope you can find it in your hearts to forgive me and most importantly, still vote for me.

*This message paid for by the EmmmieG for chocolate inspector campaign.*

4 aurelius  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:30:42pm

tea party favorite lying? this is news?

guess we have to keep reminding people.

5 darthstar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:32:09pm

Hopefully, what this means, is that when Harry Reid gives his victory speech on election night, he can skip the polite "My opponent ran a solid campaign" bullshit and simply say, "Thank you for voting for me. Though I know that a lot of you aren't super happy with me, at least I'm not some crazy lying bitch like Sharron Angle."

6 elizajane  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:32:49pm

BLATANT dishonesty? Common, ordinary dishonesty wasn't doing it for her?

7 darthstar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:33:08pm

re: #3 EmmmieG

triskaidekaphobic...say that thirteen times real fast and then try to deny it.

8 MinisterO  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:33:16pm

It will be oh so funny when she wins. /

It's about troll-thirty.

9 bratwurst  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:33:17pm

I predict we will be hearing from more than one lizard in this thread who would STILL be happy to pull the level for her.

10 Kragar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:33:29pm

Next up "Harry Reid drowns puppies".

11 darthstar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:34:03pm

re: #9 bratwurst

I predict we will be hearing from more than one lizard in this thread who would STILL be happy to pull the level for her.

Yes, but none of them actually live in Nevada.

12 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:34:13pm

re: #7 darthstar

triskaidekaphobic...say that thirteen times real fast and then try to deny it.

I'm currently teaching a middle-school level class on the American revolution and we have 13 students. I thought it was very auspicious.

For that matter, if 13 were unlucky, why has the US been so successful?

13 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:34:36pm

Actually, this sort of thing has been going on for a while.

I had a book in my library, Holy Terror, that was written in the early 80s. It was about the rise of the Religious, libertarian Right in the U.S.

One incident stayed in my mind. NCPAC had targeted Birch Bayh for one of their campaigns. One ad they ran showed someone standing next to a missile silo they claimed was empty because Bayh had voted against appropriations for ICBMs.

Actually the Air Force had emptied it because the missile in it was obsolete and too small to hold the new generation of missiles.

Bayh asked for a retraction and got it. It was printed in the newspapers under the tide schedules. So lots of people saw the TV ad. Damned few saw the retraction.

So this has been going on for a while.

14 darthstar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:34:57pm

re: #12 EmmmieG

I'm currently teaching a middle-school level class on the American revolution and we have 13 students. I thought it was very auspicious.

For that matter, if 13 were unlucky, why has the US been so successful?

The coven of colonies.

15 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:35:00pm

re: #10 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Next up "Harry Reid drowns puppies".

Harry Reid smothers puppies using pet demon sheep trained to sit on them.

16 Kragar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:35:50pm

I would like to clarify that I am not now, nor have I ever been, a 19th century gothic poet who wrote epic ballads to my lost paramour.

17 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:36:16pm

re: #10 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Next up "Harry Reid drowns puppies".

Harry Reid actually failed to introduce an amendment to the HCR bill to force chemical sterilization for people who eat babies. I am outraged.

18 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:36:22pm

That was the whole point of the amendment, so people could run ads like this. Mind you Sharon Angle is being opportunistic as hell with this, and it's scummy, crappy, and in general unsavory, but I'm willing to bet that in this case there is an equivalency going on here.

Both sides do this crap. It doesn't excuse it. But that's why there's the Truth-o-Meter. Which is a fun little site to see if people have been honest or not.

19 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:37:09pm

re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I would like to clarify that I am not now, nor have I ever been, a 19th century gothic poet who wrote epic ballads to my lost paramour.

Then what's this ruffled shirt doing in your closet? Are those ink stains?

20 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:37:40pm

I did it... I found a Nevada senate candidate who's just as insane (if not more insane) than Sharron Angle. He's running as an independent (probably because he was too batshit nutty for the republicans) but man, this is another one of those freaks who Alex Jones would accuse of ripping him off. Visit his site only if you want to laugh at his insanity.

[Link: www.reeves4congress.com...]

21 Kragar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:37:42pm

re: #19 EmmmieG

Then what's this ruffled shirt doing in your closet? Are those ink stains?

NEVERMORE!

22 MinisterO  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:39:40pm

MBF @ 18. Who has it?

23 aurelius  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:39:45pm

this is so defensive, reactive. Angle launches a smear and now sane people have to respond.

has anyone noticed you see a lot less of the stories lately unmasking tea partiers as fundamentally racist, in the news-- and even on blogs?

we need to turn up the volume on that. That's their deep weakness, their achilles heel.

enough playing defense, that's not going to cut it in October.

24 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:40:15pm

re: #20 pharmmajor

I did it... I found a Nevada senate candidate who's just as insane (if not more insane) than Sharron Angle. He's running as an independent (probably because he was too batshit nutty for the republicans) but man, this is another one of those freaks who Alex Jones would accuse of ripping him off. Visit his site only if you want to laugh at his insanity.

[Link: www.reeves4congress.com...]

It's like someone created a satirical site encompassing every apeshit-crazy, bloodshot eyes insane anti-Semitic theory known (and some unknown) to the world today. Wow.

25 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:40:27pm

re: #20 pharmmajor

His pic looks like a mug shot he got after getting a DUI leaving a strip club.

26 Kragar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:40:50pm

re: #22 MinisterO

MBF @ 18. Who has it?

FLY, MY PRETTIES, FLY!

27 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:42:11pm

re: #24 imp_62

It's like someone created a satirical site encompassing every apeshit-crazy, bloodshot eyes insane anti-Semitic theory known (and some unknown) to the world today. Wow.

And even with that, the Tea Party wouldn't touch him.

What do you want to bet that after his inevitable loss, he'll blame the "international Zionist conspiracy" for his defeat?

28 darthstar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:42:58pm

re: #25 Cannadian Club Akbar

His pic looks like a mug shot he got after getting a DUI leaving a strip club.

Indeed.

Image: wp2dc49dde.png

29 Bastet  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:42:59pm

"Smacks head on desk" face palm isn't enough. How anyone can vote for this loon is beyond me. Most likely because I still have a least 5 functioning brain cells.

30 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:43:34pm

re: #27 pharmmajor

And even with that, the Tea Party wouldn't touch him.

What do you want to bet that after his inevitable loss, he'll blame the "international Zionist conspiracy" for his defeat?

Destroying his nascent political career is on my "to do" list immediately following the next Zionist Cabal rate setting meeting with Bernanke.

31 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:44:30pm

re: #29 Bastet

"Smacks head on desk" face palm isn't enough. How anyone can vote for this loon is beyond me. Most likely because I still have a least 5 functioning brain cells.

Which loon are you referring to? Angle, Reeves, or both?

32 iossarian  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:45:18pm

re: #30 imp_62

Destroying his nascent political career is on my "to do" list immediately following the next Zionist Cabal rate setting meeting with Bernanke.

Don't worry, my Bilderberg Buddies* have already taken care of it.

* Yes, we have t-shirts.

33 darthstar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:45:29pm

re: #20 pharmmajor


[Link: www.reeves4congress.com...]

I am a teacher, not a politician. The Constitution requires that a Representative is at least 25 years old, an inhabitant of the state in which they are elected, and has been a Citizen of the United States for the previous seven years. Yes, I satisfy these requirements. I am not a career politician. I am simply an ordinary citizen who wakes up every morning in disbelief of how quickly this country has went to hell in a handbasket under this administration.

I hope he doesn't teach English.

34 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:45:54pm

re: #30 imp_62

Destroying his nascent political career is on my "to do" list immediately following the next Zionist Cabal rate setting meeting with Bernanke.

Well, all I know is the Jews run the media.
-Rick Sanchez

35 iossarian  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:46:55pm

I love his claims to be an "ordinary citizen".

He is anything but ordinary.

36 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:47:13pm

re: #33 darthstar

I hope he doesn't teach English.

His students probably just tune him out.

You gotta wonder, though, if crazy is becoming the new standard for challenger candidates... maybe I can have a shot in 2012. How's this sound: Elect me to congress and I will do all in my power to stop Pepsi from destroying America.

37 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:47:55pm

FORTUNE TELLERS MAKE A KILLING NOWADAYS

ME OH MY

38 Kragar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:48:15pm

Democrats' Enthusiasm Not Low, Just Typical

A look deeper inside measures of voter interest suggests Democratic voters aren't particularly disengaged from this election, at least not by historical standards. They are expressing roughly normal levels of interest for this stage of a midterm campaign season.

Democratic voters, in short, are behaving in an ordinary way.

The difference is that Republicans—both hard-core Republicans and those who merely lean that way—are extremely, highly, exceptionally (you pick the modifier) engaged in the campaign. They are expressing much higher levels of interest than normal.

Republican voters, in short, are behaving in an extraordinary way. The enthusiasm gap is almost entirely a result of this surplus of energy on the Republican side.

This picture tells you a lot about the challenge Democrats face in the final month of the campaign. If history is any guide, Democrats will close the enthusiasm gap some, for their voters tend to check into the game later. And perhaps Republican enthusiasm already is so high that it can't rise much further in the campaign's final weeks.

39 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:48:16pm

re: #34 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well, all I know is the Jews run the media.
-Rick Sanchez

And see where that statement got him? /
CNN management was in a no win situation with that one, to be sure.

40 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:49:37pm

re: #39 imp_62

And see where that statement got him? /
CNN management was in a no win situation with that one, to be sure.

Yeah, cuz, let it go and their Zionist overlords will be all over them.

41 Bastet  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:51:30pm

re: #31 pharmmajor

Oops sorry, Angle.

42 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:51:57pm

re: Reeves4Congress... I gotta believe the site is a joke. It does not even mention his first name.

43 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:52:32pm

re: #22 MinisterO

MBF @ 18. Who has it?

Since you felt my post was worth a down-ding, I presume you have issues with what I wrote, so I'll attempt to clarify and explain further.

Let me be clear, Sharon Angle is a loon who has no business being in the Senate or dog catcher or in general in any position where people have to trust her judgment. I've made that clear before and will do so again. In this specific case however, a misleading attack ad is about par for the course and done by a very large percentage of political candidates on both sides of the aisle.

Evidently I wasn't clear in my first post. The ad is true in a literal sense, but misleading in a real world sense. that was the whole reason I linked to polifact.com in the first place, because you can see how politicians of all stripes say misleading things and air misleading attack ads.

Hopefully that helps better explain what I was trying to say in post 18.

thanks!
(and out of curiousity, what does MBF mean?)

44 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:53:46pm

re: #42 imp_62

re: Reeves4Congress... I gotta believe the site is a joke. It does not even mention his first name.

Joke or not, it does reveal one thing... I spend too much time looking for weird shit on the internet when I'm between contract jobs.

45 iossarian  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:54:04pm

re: #42 imp_62

re: Reeves4Congress... I gotta believe the site is a joke. It does not even mention his first name.

My rule of thumb for deciding "joke or nutter" is the amount of content - if it goes over two pages there is psychosis. Jokers simply don't have the energy to come up with all that material.

Based on that, I say nutter.

46 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:54:31pm

re: #44 pharmmajor

Joke or not, it does reveal one thing... I spend too much time looking for weird shit on the internet when I'm between contract jobs.

You do know the internet has porn, right?
/

47 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:55:12pm

re: #46 Cannadian Club Akbar

You do know the internet has porn, right?
/

Believe me, you do not want to know the kind of porn I look up.

48 iossarian  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:55:13pm

re: #46 Cannadian Club Akbar

You do know the internet has porn, right?
/

Great. Way to lower national productivity.

49 darthstar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:55:33pm

re: #43 bloodstar

Magical Balance Fairy...speaking of which, is there an ad by Harry Reid that blatantly lies about Sharron Angle? I'd love to see it.

50 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:55:55pm

re: #47 pharmmajor

Believe me, you do not want to know the kind of porn I look up.

politi-porn.

51 iossarian  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:56:03pm

re: #47 pharmmajor

Believe me, you do not want to know the kind of porn I look up.

This kind?

(Safe for work, I promise.)

[Link: www.wordswarm.net...]

52 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:56:22pm

re: #48 iossarian

Great. Way to lower national productivity.

I call it a stimulus package for the porn industry.
/so much wrong with that statement.

53 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:57:03pm

I only watch porn for the soundtracks.

54 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:57:41pm

re: #51 iossarian

This kind?

(Safe for work, I promise.)

[Link: www.wordswarm.net...]

No, I have some pretty perverted tastes, though (hooray for hentai).
[Link: thegeekfighters.com...]

55 iossarian  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:58:01pm

re: #53 Cannadian Club Akbar

I only watch porn for the soundtracks.

I rather enjoy if for picking up home decoration ideas.

56 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:58:53pm

re: #53 Cannadian Club Akbar

I only watch porn for the soundtracks.

How many different instrumental versions of "Bow-chicka-wow-wow" can there be?

Also, why do I feel weird for taking a topic on political dishonesty and turning it to the discussion of porn?

57 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:59:03pm

re: #25 Cannadian Club Akbar

His pic looks like a mug shot he got after getting a DUI leaving a strip club.

LOL. You think a guy running for senator could post a better pic of himself.

58 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:59:35pm

re: #45 iossarian

My rule of thumb for deciding "joke or nutter" is the amount of content - if it goes over two pages there is psychosis. Jokers simply don't have the energy to come up with all that material.

Based on that, I say nutter.

I just don't think it is the work of one person. There is only vague reference to his education and other credentials, where he teaches, etc. Not the website of someone who expects to be elected to anything; more like a site where a couple of bug-eyed conspiracy theorists compile "information".

59 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:00:08pm

re: #47 pharmmajor

Believe me, you do not want to know the kind of porn I look up.

2 girls and a cup. Do NOT look it up !!!

60 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:00:21pm

re: #56 pharmmajor

How many different instrumental versions of "Bow-chicka-wow-wow" can there be?

Also, why do I feel weird for taking a topic on political dishonesty and turning it to the discussion of porn?

I know, right? It makes porn look bad.

61 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:00:36pm

re: #57 Amory Blaine

LOL. You think a guy running for senator could post a better pic of himself.

He's a man of the people. I'm people and plan on looking like that at around 11PM.
/

62 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:01:39pm

re: #61 Cannadian Club Akbar

He's a man of the people. I'm people and plan on looking like that at around 11PM.
/

My wife just yelled at me on the phone. I am planning on looking like that in 11 minutes.

63 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:01:39pm

re: #59 Amory Blaine

2 girls and a cup. Do NOT look it up !!!

You forgot to put a "schmuck-bait" label on that, Amory.

64 darthstar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:02:03pm

re: #53 Cannadian Club Akbar

I only watch porn for the soundtracks.

Sometimes the fucking can be entertaining, too.

65 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:03:05pm

re: #64 darthstar

Sometimes the fucking can be entertaining, too.

Only if they're midgets.
/uncalled for

66 darthstar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:03:24pm

re: #59 Amory Blaine

2 girls and a cup. Do NOT look it up !!!

Okay...that's just fucking gross...(never say "Do NOT look it up !!!" in the internet...bad things happen).

67 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:03:59pm

re: #59 Amory Blaine

2 girls and a cup. Do NOT look it up !!!

Meh, I've seen worse.
:P

68 Kragar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:04:06pm

re: #59 Amory Blaine

2 girls and a cup. Do NOT look it up !!!

Perhaps a party...a lemon party...

DO NOT LOOK!

69 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:04:19pm

Glacier National Park nearly cured of glacier infestation....
Montana's melting glaciers: The poster-child for climate change


As recently as 100 years ago, Montana's Glacier National Park had more than 150 glaciers throughout its more than one million acres.

In 2005 only 27 remained. Today the total is down to a just 25 and those that are left are mere remnants of their former frozen selves.

70 iossarian  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:04:35pm

re: #64 darthstar

Sometimes the fucking can be entertaining, too.

That's the beauty of porn. It can be "enjoyed" in (at least) two very different ways. Can't say that about many art forms.

On that note, got to go. Great evenings all round, to 11pm and beyond!

71 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:04:36pm

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Perhaps a party...a lemon party...

DO NOT LOOK!

Cleveland Steamer?

72 Kragar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:04:40pm

re: #67 Varek Raith

Meh, I've seen worse.
:P

Rule 34 is a harsh mistress.

73 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:05:12pm

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Perhaps a party...a lemon party...

DO NOT LOOK!

I've been fooled by that one before. No way...

74 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:05:28pm

re: #72 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Rule 34 is a harsh mistress.


harsh mistress. DO NOT look it up
LOL

75 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:05:37pm

Harry Reid voted for the anti-christ, how I know this, Sharron Angle told me so. Seriously, these Republican candidates are completely nuts. And some of them will win and it's going to be fun to watch them have to actually take part in the system since they will be in way over their heads.

76 S'latch  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:06:11pm

I am a little confused. What is wrong with banning insurance coverage for Viagra for convicted sex offenders? Viagra for convicted sex offenders sounds like a bad idea.

77 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:06:37pm

re: #76 Lawrence Schmerel

D'OH!

78 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:06:44pm

re: #49 darthstar

Magical Balance Fairy...speaking of which, is there an ad by Harry Reid that blatantly lies about Sharron Angle? I'd love to see it.

Good point, in this case I do believe that equivalence applies as a general rule in political candidacies. I've looked through PolitiFact. And the worst rating they've given Reid on an Angle position is a couple of "Half True"s. and a "barely-True" by some PAC that's been hammering Angle

When I said it, I was thinking more in a larger scale, that you're going to see distortions and falsehoods in any sort of political campaign. And I disagree that in this case there was any sort of Magic Balance Fairy going on with my previous posts.

And I could be wrong, but as I look through politifact.com, I don't see any real pattern of one side or the other having more misrepresentations and lies than the other. which in this case is the best aggregate of information about truthfulness in political ads and statements that I've been able to find.

Does anyone know of another site that I could use to cross check and verify?

thanks!

79 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:07:17pm

re: #78 bloodstar


Does anyone know of another site that I could use to cross check and verify?

thanks!

Have you used factcheck.org?

80 Kragar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:07:38pm

There are no exceptions to rule 34;

Take breakfast for example

Image: demotivational-posters-rule.jpg

81 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:08:09pm

re: #49 darthstar

Fact checking Sharron Angle is a bit like fact-checking one of those noisemakers from Spencers

82 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:08:23pm

re: #80 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

There are no exceptions to rule 34;

Take breakfast for example

Image: demotivational-posters-rule.jpg

I need that on a tee shirt!!!

83 S'latch  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:08:47pm

re: #77 Varek Raith

It is late in the day. Help me out here.

84 Sionainn  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:08:57pm

re: #44 pharmmajor

Joke or not, it does reveal one thing... I spend too much time looking for weird shit on the internet when I'm between contract jobs.

He's really on the ballot...with that website as his contact info.

85 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:09:52pm

re: #80 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

There are no exceptions to rule 34;

True. XKCD proved that some time ago.
[Link: xkcd.com...]

86 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:11:13pm

re: #83 Lawrence Schmerel

It is late in the day. Help me out here.

The amendment to the bill offered by the Republican Senator was a stalking horse. It was ostensibly drafted to prevent payment for Viagra for sex offenders. Voting against the amendment is not equivalent to voting for the issue it purported to address. cf. my post on Harry Reid failing to offer an amendment denouncing the eating of babies.

87 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:11:19pm

re: #84 Sionainn

He's really on the ballot...with that website as his contact info.

What the hell?... I live in PA and the Dems and Repubs used their dirty tricks to keep independents and third party candidates off the ballot. But over in Nevada every third party candidate is on, regardless of whether or not he or she is a whackjob? What gives.

88 darthstar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:11:41pm

re: #78 bloodstar

Well, while it may be true that "both sides do it" can be applied in most instances, the preponderance of bullshit does seem to be coming from one side this cycle. And it's not like pro-Democratic groups are getting a shitload of money from Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, etc. to defeat incumbents...but someone is (see Chamber of Commerce).

89 webevintage  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:11:50pm

But hey, who cares if she is a fucking liar, at least she is better then Reid.
Right?
RIGHT?
/

90 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:12:02pm

re: #79 pharmmajor

Have you used factcheck.org?

Thank you! I'd forgotten about factcheck and I'm adding it to my bookmarks now.

91 Sionainn  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:12:14pm

re: #87 pharmmajor

What the hell?... I live in PA and the Dems and Repubs used their dirty tricks to keep independents and third party candidates off the ballot. But over in Nevada every third party candidate is on, regardless of whether or not he or she is a whackjob? What gives.

It's Nevada. There is no logical explanation.

92 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:13:18pm

re: #84 Sionainn

He's really on the ballot...with that website as his contact info.

Good God. Does everybody get to be on the ballot in Nevada? It's like small claims court for the politically insane.

93 Sionainn  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:13:36pm

Looks like Reeves is not a teacher in the Las Vegas area. Still trying to figure out where he's from and what school district could possibly have hired him.

94 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:13:40pm

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Perhaps a party...a lemon party...

DO NOT LOOK!

Lemon Popsicle was one of my favorite movies as a kid.

Youtube Video
95 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:15:24pm

re: #93 Sionainn

Looks like Reeves is not a teacher in the Las Vegas area. Still trying to figure out where he's from and what school district could possibly have hired him.

Maybe he is a tutor. He does not claim to be a school teacher, merely to teach at a certain school level.

96 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:15:33pm

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Perhaps a party...a lemon party...

DO NOT LOOK!

Look here instead (images SFW, audio... not so much)

Youtube Video
97 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:16:35pm

re: #88 darthstar

Well, while it may be true that "both sides do it" can be applied in most instances, the preponderance of bullshit does seem to be coming from one side this cycle. And it's not like pro-Democratic groups are getting a shitload of money from Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, etc. to defeat incumbents...but someone is (see Chamber of Commerce).

I agree with what you're saying. In this case I was looking more at the big picture and history of political attack ads, which is why I feel the equivalency applied in this case.

Personally, I think we're both right depending on the context. Both parties do this crap historically, and that this particular election, the Republicans are spewing much more crap than the Democrats. :)

(and don't get me started on the foreign money pouring into the Republican PACs and anonymous ads hitting the airwaves. Last I check the Republican outside groups are outspending the Democrats 8 to 1. Yeah, remember how everyone was afraid of the Unions flooding the airwaves? Uhhh... not so much.)

98 Sionainn  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:17:25pm

re: #95 imp_62

Maybe he is a tutor. He does not claim to be a school teacher, merely to teach at a certain school level.

I found an address for his campaign in Henderson, Nevada. He's not working for the school district here, so you may be right.

99 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:18:06pm

re: #93 Sionainn

Looks like Reeves is not a teacher in the Las Vegas area. Still trying to figure out where he's from and what school district could possibly have hired him.

I ran across something that said he was involved with the Special Olympics for 20 years. Gotta cross check.

100 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:19:32pm

OT, obliquely: At first, I thought she was about to list all the various places she didn't really go to school, but it suddenly swerved back in a different direction. Would someone please tell this weird woman to stop insisting that she's me?

101 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:20:15pm

re: #98 Sionainn

re: #99 Cannadian Club Akbar

Sounds like a disgruntled astroturfer trying to leverage the lunatic fringe's fear of globalization, Jews, etc.

102 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:21:31pm

re: #100 negativ

OT, obliquely: At first, I thought she was about to list all the various places she didn't really go to school, but it suddenly swerved back in a different direction. Would someone please tell this weird woman to stop insisting that she's me?

and somebody's giving booze to these things

103 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:21:39pm

re: #100 negativ

OT, obliquely: At first, I thought she was about to list all the various places she didn't really go to school, but it suddenly swerved back in a different direction. Would someone please tell this weird woman to stop insisting that she's me?

See, you're the insane one. She isn't claiming to be you, she is claiming to be me.

104 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:22:56pm

re: #100 negativ

I'd do her as long as she didn't talk. Just sayin'.

105 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:23:18pm

re: #104 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'd do her as long as she didn't talk. Just sayin'.

Desperate internet perv is desperate.

106 Kragar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:23:43pm

re: #104 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'd do her as long as she didn't talk. Just sayin'.

I'm pulling for her

107 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:24:06pm

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together, but not Christine O'Donnell. She is NOT ME.

108 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:24:26pm

re: #106 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm pulling for her

Speaking of people who should be barred from receiving Viagra....

109 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:24:27pm

re: #106 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm pulling for her

Well played, sir.

110 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:24:49pm

re: #107 negativ

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together, but not Christine O'Donnell. She is NOT ME.

No, she is the walrus.

111 Kragar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:26:13pm

re: #108 imp_62

Speaking of people who should be barred from receiving Viagra...

Actually, they developed Viagra only after an in depth analysis of my own rugged masculinity.

112 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:27:00pm

re: #111 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Actually, they developed Viagra only after an in depth analysis of my own drugged masculinity.

FTFY - that was easy.

113 freetoken  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:28:15pm

Speaking of disingenuous politicians, I see that The Sarah has endorsed a birther-sympathizer:

Sarah Palin Endorses Candidate With Birther 'Questions'

114 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:30:58pm

re: #113 freetoken

Speaking of disingenuous politicians, I see that The Sarah has endorsed a birther-sympathizer:

Sarah Palin Endorses Candidate With Birther 'Questions'

*reads story, then proceeds to bang head against desk*

115 MinisterO  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:31:59pm

re: #43 bloodstar

(and out of curiousity, what does MBF mean?)

MBF = magical balance fairy. The MBF exists to defend an ideology by promoting the meme that any asshattery attributed to it is equaled by asshattery of its opposition.

116 Sionainn  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:32:39pm

re: #113 freetoken

Speaking of disingenuous politicians, I see that The Sarah has endorsed a birther-sympathizer:

Sarah Palin Endorses Candidate With Birther 'Questions'

Along those lines..."I don't know who Orly Taitz is".

117 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:34:05pm

The Modern Whig party doesn't do this kind of stuff.

118 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:35:19pm

re: #12 EmmmieG

I'm currently teaching a middle-school level class on the American revolution and we have 13 students. I thought it was very auspicious.

For that matter, if 13 were unlucky, why has the US been so successful?

Unlucky for King George.....

119 Alaska Kim  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:35:29pm

Hi y'all.

120 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:35:35pm

The two major parties are worn out & need to be scrapped.

121 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:35:37pm

re: #115 MinisterO

MBF = magical balance fairy. The MBF exists to defend an ideology by promoting the meme that any asshattery attributed to it is equaled by asshattery of its opposition.

Well, there are some cases where it does fit. For example, the 9/11 conspiracy theories that arose during the Bush administration are equal to the birther conspiracy theories coming about during the Obama administration.

122 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:35:51pm

re: #117 Ojoe

The Modern Whig party doesn't do this kind of stuff.

You don't have the money to run teevee ads?........

;-)

123 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:36:11pm

Damn, part of my faith in humanity just died, if you have read or enjoyed seeing any of George Bernard Shaw's plays just try to reconcile it with this fascist nazi eugenics plea.

Youtube Video

/And here I thought you could tell what someone was probably like from what the wrote, guess that idea needs some rethinking...

124 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:36:25pm

re: #122 wozzablog

For a starter!

LOL

125 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:36:50pm

re: #120 Ojoe

The two major parties are worn out & need to be scrapped.

Amen to that. Tomorrow I'm going around town to deliver Libertarian party door hangers. Hopefully I can persuade a few dozen people to think about voting for a third party candidate.

126 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:37:02pm

re: #113 freetoken

Speaking of disingenuous politicians, I see that The Sarah has endorsed a birther-sympathizer:

Sarah Palin Endorses Candidate With Birther 'Questions'

I just came across an article about that...

Pearce brought up the Huffington Post in his statement because that was the media outlet that first reported on the comments he made at the Los Lunas forum.

Pearce can try to steer the conversation to jobs now, but in August he was playing off emotions in some ways similar to those behind the “birther” movement when he sent out a news release challenging Teague to take a stand on a proposal to build an Islamic center near Ground Zero.

127 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:37:03pm

re: #119 Alaska Kim

Hi y'all.

Been a while, eh?

128 zora  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:37:06pm

Sharron Angle's Pastor: She's 'Snow White,' Harry Reid Belongs To 'Cult' Of Mormonism

“His religion’s a cult,” Pastor Reed said. “The Christian community—all the Christians, theologians and scholars, all recognize that, that Mormonism is a cult. I have books in my library on cults, and it lists Mormonism right there with all these bizarre cults. Well, there must be a reason. I mean, here a member of a cult is one of the most powerful people in the United States. Doesn’t that alarm you? And his allegiance is to Salt Lake City. Something is up with that. Something’s weird. But nobody touches that. … Harry Reid’s allegiance is to Salt Lake City. The Mormon church is rich, powerful, they do illegal things. They do secretive things. They’ve got all this money. They own American businesses. There’s weirdness going on there.

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

[Link: www.frumforum.com...]

can this be good in nevada? according to mormon wiki, nevada is about nine percent mormon.

129 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:37:16pm

re: #124 Ojoe

Sorry, someone has to razz you a little :-p

130 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:38:02pm

re: #128 zora

"I was a pure as the snow, but I drifted."

— Mae West.

131 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:38:43pm

re: #129 wozzablog

Feel free, I enjoy it, this is a humor blog also.

How else would we get through all this?

132 Alaska Kim  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:38:52pm

re: #127 Cannadian Club Akbar

A TAD! I'm blissfully unemployed. I'll never go back to state gov't.

133 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:39:40pm

re: #131 Ojoe

Feel free, I enjoy it, this is a humor blog also.

How else would we get through all this?

See my Avatar.
/

134 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:39:55pm

re: #131 Ojoe

Feel free, I enjoy it, this is a humor blog also.

How else would we get through all this?

Laugh or cry. Quite right.

I for one have a plan.............

*hunkers down, orders another double G&T and sobs into the barmaids bosom.................*

135 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:40:00pm

re: #131 Ojoe

How else would we get through all this?

Hard use of cocaine?

136 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:40:37pm

re: #133 Cannadian Club Akbar

I like grappa myself.

137 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:41:01pm

re: #125 pharmmajor

Amen to that. Tomorrow I'm going around town to deliver Libertarian party door hangers. Hopefully I can persuade a few dozen people to think about voting for a third party candidate.

Libertarian Party door-hangers? Or Libertarian party-door hangers? Cuz, the first I am not so interested in, the second I could be persuaded to learn about.

138 MinisterO  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:41:37pm

re: #121 pharmmajor

Well, there are some cases where it does fit. For example, the 9/11 conspiracy theories that arose during the Bush administration are equal to the birther conspiracy theories coming about during the Obama administration.

They are not equal but I realize that it's very important to you that they should be.

139 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:41:43pm

re: #136 Ojoe

I like grappa myself.

Don't tell Christine O'Donell.....

140 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:42:13pm

re: #137 imp_62

Libertarian Party door-hangers? Or Libertarian party-door hangers? Cuz, the first I am not so interested in, the second I could be persuaded to learn about.

The second is just those really long beads.

141 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:42:28pm

re: #138 MinisterO

They are not equal but I realize that it's very important to you that they should be.

Unfortunately this is a point that we disagree on. Whether or not we see them as equal, I think we can agree that they're both stupid.

142 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:42:33pm

re: #139 wozzablog

It's a drink.

: )

143 Alaska Kim  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:43:39pm

thought y'all might like my new bumper sticker:
Please.... Spay and neuter your democrats.

144 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:43:57pm

I probably should go downstairs and face the music. Bye, all.

145 prairiefire  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:44:08pm

re: #143 Alaska Kim

thought y'all might like my new bumper sticker:
Please... Spay and neuter your democrats.

Charming.

146 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:44:12pm

re: #142 Ojoe

It's a drink.

: )

If you say so brother, what ever gets you through.

/

147 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:45:14pm

re: #143 Alaska Kim

thought y'all might like my new bumper sticker:
Please... Spay and neuter your democrats.

My favorite remains an anti-Hillary sticker from 2008:
"Life's a bitch... don't vote for one."

148 Alaska Kim  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:46:50pm

re: #147 pharmmajor

that's good too.
my fave is still:
"I neutered the cat, now he's a liberal."

149 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:47:16pm

re: #143 Alaska Kim

Caution - Bridge To Nowhere..........

150 Alaska Kim  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:48:18pm

re: #149 wozzablog

that's such old b.s.
i'm tired of hearing it.

151 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:48:25pm

re: #9 bratwurst

I predict we will be hearing from more than one lizard in this thread who would STILL be happy to pull the level for her.

Dunno. What might that lever be connected to?

152 Sionainn  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:49:14pm

re: #143 Alaska Kim

thought y'all might like my new bumper sticker:
Please... Spay and neuter your democrats.

My goodness, aren't you clever.
/

153 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:50:13pm

re: #150 Alaska Kim

that's such old b.s.
i'm tired of hearing it.

Shoe hurts on other foot, eh?

154 prairiefire  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:50:15pm

re: #150 Alaska Kim

that's such old b.s.
i'm tired of hearing it.

How's "The Beard" holding up against Murkowski?

155 Alaska Kim  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:50:27pm

re: #152 Sionainn

naw... I just like sparking road rage here in the capital city.

156 Bubblehead II  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:50:31pm

OT, But some good news. Those trapped Chilean miners may be free as early as Monday.

Copiapo, Chile (CNN) -- Rescuers in Chile have just another 89 meters (292 feet) left to drill and are expected to break through into the area where 33 miners are trapped by Saturday, Chilean Mines Minister Laurence Golborne said Thursday.

Depending on whether engineers decide to encase the rescue shaft with steel casing, the 33 miners could be extracted from the collapsed San Jose gold and copper mine within two to 10 days after breakthrough, Golborne added.

157 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:51:06pm

re: #150 Alaska Kim

So, you were for dropping into a thread with a hackneyed cliche before you were against it?........................


;-)

158 Alaska Kim  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:51:29pm

re: #153 wlewisiii

and your point would be?

159 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:51:45pm

re: #156 Bubblehead II

Hurrah.

160 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:52:56pm

re: #156 Bubblehead II

OT, But some good news. Those trapped Chilean miners may be free as early as Monday.

Copiapo, Chile (CNN) -- Rescuers in Chile have just another 89 meters (292 feet) left to drill and are expected to break through into the area where 33 miners are trapped by Saturday, Chilean Mines Minister Laurence Golborne said Thursday.

Depending on whether engineers decide to encase the rescue shaft with steel casing, the 33 miners could be extracted from the collapsed San Jose gold and copper mine within two to 10 days after breakthrough, Golborne added.

This is wonderful. Let's hope the rescue crew is successful.

161 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:53:42pm

re: #154 prairiefire

How's "The Beard" holding up against Murkowski?

Hobo in a Men's Warehouse suit. Frontier GQ. Casting call for 90210. Wingnut metrosexual.

Bumper sticker I saw a Postbourgie - Fighting Terrorists Since 1861.

Where's my bat, I have a rageboner.

162 Alaska Kim  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:54:51pm

re: #161 Jeff In Ohio

"rageboner"....
that's hysterical!

163 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:54:51pm

re: #127 Cannadian Club Akbar

Been a while, eh?

Sleepers Awake

Youtube Video
164 webevintage  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:55:01pm

Every time you vote Republican God Kills a kitten.
Republicans for Voldemort.

Those are my bumper stickers....

165 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:55:54pm

re: #162 Alaska Kim

"rageboner"...
that's hysterical!

Mystical is the word you want.

166 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:56:30pm

re: #164 webevintage

Every time you vote Republican God Kills a kitten.
Republicans for Voldemort.

Those are my bumper stickers...

Not bad. How does this sound for a bumper sticker.
Vote Libertarian. We'll make marijuana legal... what, isn't that enough?

167 webevintage  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:56:58pm

re: #166 pharmmajor

Not bad. How does this sound for a bumper sticker.
Vote Libertarian. We'll make marijuana legal... what, isn't that enough?

I like.

168 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:57:11pm

re: #166 pharmmajor

Not bad. How does this sound for a bumper sticker.
Vote Libertarian. We'll make marijuana legal... what, isn't that enough?

Not without free gub'mint cheetos........

169 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:57:17pm

re: #167 webevintage

I like.

Tank you. Tank you.

170 Kragar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:57:31pm

My bumper sticker says...

Oh yeah, nothing because I don't want some partisan hack keying my car over a bumpersticker.

171 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:57:56pm

re: #170 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My bumper sticker says...

Oh yeah, nothing because I don't want some partisan hack keying my car over a bumpersticker.

Damn, did that actually happen to you before?

172 Alaska Kim  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:58:43pm

re: #171 pharmmajor

you need.....
Heavily Armed
Easily Pissed

173 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:59:27pm

re: #170 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My bumper sticker says...

Oh yeah, nothing because I don't want some partisan hack keying my car over a bumpersticker.

why do you hate the troops?............and or America?...........and or...........


c'mon. no true patriot can possibly express any real sentiment worthy of hearing unless it's available in bumper sticker format.............

174 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:59:41pm

re: #164 webevintage

Every time you vote Republican God Kills a kitten.
Republicans for Voldemort.

Those are my bumper stickers...

I'm voting Tea Party because:
Obama is right handed, just like Hitler.
Obama won't teach my kis the world is flat.
Obama won't force muslims to worship Jesus.
Obama wants the government to take over social security
etc.
[Link: imvotingteaparty.com...]

I'm voting Christine O'Donnell because:
Ducks float
I have a boner and I need relief
I'm a witch, just like her
I have a boner
I think mice are smart
I have a boner
blah blah blah boner

Meh, back to being a parent.

175 Kragar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:59:56pm

re: #171 pharmmajor

Damn, did that actually happen to you before?

Place I used to live, someone keyed the cars of everyone with any sort of military decal. Luckily, I was working nights at the time so my car wasn't there when it happened.

176 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:00:47pm

re: #174 Jeff In Ohio

I'm voting Christine O'Donnell because:
I'm a witch, just like her

Meh, back to being a parent.

I'm really surprised I haven't seen any Wiccans Against O'Donnell yet.

177 webevintage  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:02:30pm

re: #170 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My bumper sticker says...

Oh yeah, nothing because I don't want some partisan hack keying my car over a bumpersticker.

HA!
I also had an Obama '08 on the car until some asswipe in the WalMart parking lot called me a "n word lover" as he walked by.
At some point it got stolen off my van.

Those other two actually cause people to stop and read in parking lots and I've had people come up and tell me how funny they are.
The last time I was sitting in the van waiting for my son to come out of work and I saw this family, that I took to be tea party folks (you had to be there) reading them. I thought "oh, no" but as they walked by and saw I was in the van the wife yells "we love your bumper stickers!".
Never judge a book by their cover....

178 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:04:34pm

re: #177 webevintage

Those other two actually cause people to stop and read in parking lots and I've had people come up and tell me how funny they are.
The last time I was sitting in the van waiting for my son to come out of work and I saw this family, that I took to be tea party folks (you had to be there) reading them. I thought "oh, no" but as they walked by and saw I was in the van the wife yells "we love your bumper stickers!".
Never judge a book by their cover...

Yeah, bumper stickers can cause undue grief. I was actually thinking about getting an LP sticker but decided against it just because I didn't want to risk some asshat starting a fight with me over it.

179 zora  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:04:41pm

re: #176 pharmmajor

I'm really surprised I haven't seen any Wiccans Against O'Donnell yet.

[Link: www.time.com...]

Delaware Wiccan Speaks Out on Christine O'Donnell

180 webevintage  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:04:59pm

re: #174 Jeff In Ohio

I'm voting Tea Party because:
[Link: imvotingteaparty.com...]

hee
I want the "Obama won't let me hunt the homeless for sport. That's why I'm voting Tea Party."

181 Bubblehead II  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:05:16pm

re: #176 pharmmajor

I'm really surprised I haven't seen any Wiccans Against O'Donnell yet.

You obviuosly didn't Google that phrase.

Witches Blast O'Donnell

182 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:07:38pm

re: #181 Bubblehead II

You obviuosly didn't Google that phrase.

Witches Blast O'Donnell

Yeah, I didn't. I spent too much time looking for Star Trek/Dragonball crossover fan-fiction. (Told you I look for weird shit online ;) )

183 Vambo  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:10:38pm

re: #93 Sionainn

Looks like Reeves is not a teacher in the Las Vegas area. Still trying to figure out where he's from and what school district could possibly have hired him.

I think he homeschools... his cats.

184 Bubblehead II  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:17:28pm

re: #182 pharmmajor

Yeah, I didn't. I spent too much time looking for Star Trek/Dragonball crossover fan-fiction. (Told you I look for weird shit online ;) )

Then you might find this site to be of interest.

How to Find The Weirdest Stuff On The Internet

185 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:18:37pm

laters gators.

186 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:19:45pm

re: #181 Bubblehead II

You obviuosly didn't Google that phrase.

Witches Blast O'Donnell

Ha, I'm waiting for the Hare Krishnas to blast Christine. I honestly see nothing about O'Donnell or Angle or many of the other tea party endorsed candidates that makes me think they'll be effective senators. I see people who are simply running on the fact they're anti Obama well you need to be more than that if you're going to be in the frigging US Senate and the Republican Party is trying to get a majority so these people are going to need to do more than just bellyache about how Obama is ruining American society. When they say they want smaller government, we need to ask them how. All they give is platitudes about socialism and blah blah.

187 Kragar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:20:38pm

re: #184 Bubblehead II

Then you might find this site to be of interest.

How to Find The Weirdest Stuff On The Internet

Its called 4-Chan

188 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:22:00pm

Frank Sinatra sings Witchcraft.

Youtube Video
189 Bubblehead II  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:30:59pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

"Ha, I'm waiting for the Hare Krishnas to blast Christine."

Well She didn't join them because She Italian and loves her Meat Balls.


Youtube Video
190 Vambo  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:32:04pm

I'm really enjoying the new "witch house" pseudo-genre...

Youtube Video
191 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:34:15pm

hiya...it's a dog eat dog world and I'm wearing milkbone underwear.

192 Bubblehead II  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:35:38pm

re: #189 Bubblehead II

"Ha, I'm waiting for the Hare Krishnas to blast Christine."

Well She didn't join them because She Italian and loves her Meat Balls.

Bad link. Fixed now.

pimf

193 Gus  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:36:00pm

It's more than lies regarding Viagra. The lies also include Senate Bill 2611, vote 157 which the Angle camp claims to be "special tax breaks" and "social security benefits" for illegal aliens. Yesterday I debunked the social security claim. Here's some further information:

Republican challenger Sharron Angle falsely claims Sen. Harry Reid voted to give “special tax breaks to illegal aliens." He did nothing of the kind. In fact, Reid sponsored an amendment to the comprehensive immigration bill in 2007 that made it clear that illegal immigrants remain ineligible for the Earned Income Tax Credit for low-income workers.

[...]

No ‘Special Tax Breaks’

In particular, the ad attacks Reid’s "votes to give special tax breaks to illegal aliens.” Angle is primarily referring to the Earned Income Tax Credit for low-income workers. But Reid is not proposing to pay benefits to illegal immigrants — not until and unless they become U.S. citizens or are granted legal status. And these are not “special tax breaks” for illegals, but rather existing tax credits for low-income legal residents.

What’s the basis for Angle’s claim? She points to the 2006 and 2007 immigration bills. Both would have created a path to citizenship for millions of undocumented Americans. In the context of that legislation, there was a debate about whether former illegal immigrants who received probationary Z visas as part of a four-step process to become legal permanent residents would be eligible for this tax credit. But illegal immigrants are not eligible for the credit, and the bill would not have changed that.

According to a 2007 report by the conservative Heritage Foundation, “all individuals in probationary Z visa status will be given lawful Social Security numbers, which makes the Z visa holder immediately eligible for… the EITC.” The law would have to be specifically amended for former illegal immigrants whose status is adjusted to not be eligible for the EITC.

The Angle campaign refers specifically to two amendments offered by Republican senators during the 2006 debate. Reid voted against both:

* Republican Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama offered an amendment, which failed, that would have banned legal residents who lived here illegally prior to Jan. 7, 2004, from ever receiving the EITC.

* Republican Sen. John Ensign of Nevada offered an amendment, which passed, that would have banned legal residents who once lived here illegally from retroactively claiming a tax refund or credit prior to 2006.

[...]

No ‘Social Security for Illegals,’ Either

Angle’s ad also charges that Reid voted “to give illegals Social Security benefits.” That’s false.

Yes, Reid voted against Ensign amendments in 2006 and 2007 that would have barred someone living here legally from receiving Social Security credits for work done while that person was living in the country illegally. The key phrase in that sentence is living here legally. Reid did not propose giving Social Security to illegal immigrants until and unless they are living here legally and have paid into the system long enough to become eligible for benefits.

194 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:37:40pm

re: #191 PT Barnum

hiya...it's a dog eat dog world and I'm wearing milkbone underwear.

NORM!!!

right?

195 Gus  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:44:47pm

Here is the full text of SB 2611, Vote 157 and the summary here. As you can see everything is within the context of illegal's being on a path towards citizenship.

Some interesting tidbits on SB 2611:

Sponsor:

Sen. Arlen Specter [D-PA]hide cosponsors

Cosponsors:

Samuel Brownback [R-KS]
Lindsey Graham [R-SC]
Charles Hagel [R-NE]
Edward Kennedy [D-MA]
Mel Martinez [R-FL]
John McCain [R-AZ]

Republicans that voted yes on SB 2611.

Alaska
Yea AK Murkowski, Lisa [R]
Yea AK Stevens, Ted [R]

Arizona
Nay AZ Kyl, Jon [R]
Yea AZ McCain, John [R]

Colorado
Nay CO Allard, Wayne [R]
Not Voting CO Salazar, Ken [D]

Florida
Yea FL Martinez, Mel [R]
Yea FL Nelson, Bill [D]

Idaho
Yea ID Craig, Larry [R]
Nay ID Crapo, Michael [R]

Indiana
Yea IN Bayh, Evan [D]
Yea IN Lugar, Richard [R]

Kansas
Yea KS Brownback, Samuel [R]
Nay KS Roberts, Pat [R]

Maine
Yea ME Collins, Susan [R]
Yea ME Snowe, Olympia [R]

Minnesota
Yea MN Coleman, Norm [R]
Yea MN Dayton, Mark [D]

There are a few more and the full roll call can be found here.

Main page for SB 2611

196 darthstar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:46:28pm

Okay...got my hat, my Grateful Dead Giant's shirt, a long sleeve tie-dye for warmth, and I'm ready to go...just need to exercise the boys a little and make sure they have some food...I know, I promised I'd watch the game with them...tomorrow, boys, I promise.

197 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:47:20pm

re: #196 darthstar

Okay...got my hat, my Grateful Dead Giant's shirt, a long sleeve tie-dye for warmth, and I'm ready to go...just need to exercise the boys a little and make sure they have some food...I know, I promised I'd watch the game with them...tomorrow, boys, I promise.

Did you get your ticket out of the scanner?

198 Gus  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:52:27pm

Alaska. Beneficiary of Federal corporate "welfare" as the wingnuts would call it. Now that Ted Steven is long gone they will be scrambling for money.

Dem takes aim at Alaska's federal funding

A move that will stir debate about the billions of dollars worth of federal set-aside contracts that Alaska native companies receive.

Sarah Palin was never known to turn away the billions in aid that is sent to Alaska. Ted Stevens was notorious. Joe Miller talks the talk of the Teabaggers but in the end will he reject Federal aid being sent to Alaska to help prop up the corporations in the state?

199 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:01:17pm

re: #14 darthstar

The coven of colonies.

Has something to do with the Freemasons, and how Benjamin Franklin was a witch, ya know. You think a little collection of hick colonies just beat Britain in a fair fight?

200 Ming  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:41:21pm

I remember during the health care wrangling in the Senate, it was specifically reported on CNN that Republicans introduced amendments like "no viagra for child molesters" for the express purpose of forcing the Democrats to vote against it, and then using this to embarrass the Democrats in the 2010 elections. Sure enough, CNN got that story right: that's exactly what's happening. At the time, I didn't expect this tactic to actually work; surely American voters are too smart? Maybe not.

201 Steve Dutch  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:51:40pm

re: #200 Ming

Republicans introduced amendments like "no viagra for child molesters" for the express purpose of forcing the Democrats to vote against it, and then using this to embarrass the Democrats in the 2010 elections.

Voting against this idea isn't the same as voting for paying for Viagra for child molesters. On the other hand, unless there was some more subtle sabotage contained in the amendment, I can't see a constructive reason to vote against it. Then again, I can't see why insurance should ever have to pay for Viagra, especially considering all the really critical medical expenses going unpaid.

202 krypto  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 5:34:36pm

re: #201 SteveDutch

Voting against this idea isn't the same as voting for paying for Viagra for child molesters. On the other hand, unless there was some more subtle sabotage contained in the amendment, I can't see a constructive reason to vote against it. Then again, I can't see why insurance should ever have to pay for Viagra, especially considering all the really critical medical expenses going unpaid.

Coburn's amendment had nothing to do with trying to control abuse of children, and neither did Reid's vote against it. Coburn offered that amendment when the reconcilation bill was being debated in the Senate in order to derail progress on the health care reform bill. If the Senate made any amendment at all to the bill, then the bill would have had to go back to the House to be debated on again, and Coburn and fellow Republicans were introducing every amendment they could think of that would sound bad to vote against just to force Democrats to choose between sending the bill back for more delay or giving Republicans fake claims to embarrass Democratic opponents about how they voted, as Angle is trying to do. (In fact, the bill had to be sent back to the House anyway for a final fine tuning, but that occurred at the end and not when Coburn's amendment came up).

Coburn also had a health care proposal of his own that he was touting as an alternative, and there was no measure in it forbidding Viagra for sex offenders. Coburn also voted against Franken's anti-rape provision in a defense appropriations bill prior to this. The whole issue is fake.

[Link: politicalcorrection.org...]

203 NC Gray  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 5:41:24pm

Things here are getting absurd, if you folks want more of what Harry Reid is dealing, then you are going to be living in the age of hyper inflation and ultimate poverty.

I really don't care what kind of innuendo that folks portray, because the political/media class in this country have never studied accounting or actuarial tables.

We are broke plain and simple, and we need an economy that is producing jobs and and real value and in-spite of what the Keynesian text tell us, that can only happen with lower real tax rates and and a growing economy.

No tax increase has ever lead to economic growth- its an oxymoron...
Sharon Angle will vote for policies that will lead to economic rather than government growth-

She will not vote to arrest abortionist nor their clients, nor will she rewrite the nations text books to have a creationist only basis.

WAKE Up and understand that what ever you might believe or not believe it will be meaningless if we do not get our fiscal house in order!

204 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 5:43:26pm

re: #203 NC Gray

Things here are getting absurd, if you folks want more of what Harry Reid is dealing, then you are going to be living in the age of hyper inflation and ultimate poverty.

Ultimate poverty sounds pretty scary.

205 NC Gray  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 5:45:23pm

Your great Charles this is the second time you have responded to one of my posts...

Thanks!

206 krypto  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 5:47:45pm

re: #203 NC Gray

Things here are getting absurd, if you folks want more of what Harry Reid is dealing, then you are going to be living in the age of hyper inflation and ultimate poverty.

I really don't care what kind of innuendo that folks portray, because the political/media class in this country have never studied accounting or actuarial tables.

We are broke plain and simple, and we need an economy that is producing jobs and and real value and in-spite of what the Keynesian text tell us, that can only happen with lower real tax rates and and a growing economy.

No tax increase has ever lead to economic growth- its an oxymoron...
Sharon Angle will vote for policies that will lead to economic rather than government growth-

She will not vote to arrest abortionist nor their clients, nor will she rewrite the nations text books to have a creationist only basis.

WAKE Up and understand that what ever you might believe or not believe it will be meaningless if we do not get our fiscal house in order!

If you think Sharron Angle is just about achieving some absurd right wing fantasy of paying off the deficit by cutting taxes or about economic growth (when she said it's not her problem to help create jobs in Nevada) then you haven't really been following Sharron Angle.

Here are some of the positions she has taken:

She has said Social Security and Medicare violate the Ten Commandments [really]. She has said Social Security and Medicare should be “phased out.” She has responded to questions in the Las Vegas Sun by stating that there should be no attempt to fix Wall Street practices and that the bailed out banks should be allowed to do whatever they want without regulation. She has repeatedly spoken of violent insurrection (“second amendment remedies”) if her opponent is democratically elected by the voters of Nevada (so much for representative democracy!). She wants to eliminate the Department of Education and the Department of Energy. While opposing government health programs for everyone else, she herself gets her health care through the Federal Employees Insurance Plans. She favors using Nevada as a nuclear waste dumpsite location. While blaming Reid for the poor Nevada economy, she says it would not be her role as senator to help create jobs in Nevada. She has come out against unemployment insurance. She has come out for forcing women who are raped to bear the rapist’s child. She has come out against colonoscopies and other routine cancer screening procedures known to save countless lives. She has come out against medical care for autism and publicly ridiculed people with autism. And perhaps her dumbest health insurance idea is proposing that to “reduce” costs by having only women who expect to be pregnant sign up for and pay insurance premiums for maternity coverage, leaving the obvious question of how the premiums they pay could remain less than paying their own medical costs out of pocket without insurance, when only the people collecting the medical claims are paying premiums to fund the claims payments.

All this comes from what she herself has said.

Her ideas are extreme, destructive, and contrary to the views and values of most Americans. Some of her ideas are also mind bogglingly stupid.

207 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 5:50:08pm

re: #205 NC Gray

your great

208 nines09  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:46:15pm

re: #206 krypto
In nutshell, so to speak. Well spoken.

209 Vambo  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 7:06:09pm

re: #202 krypto

Coburn's amendment had nothing to do with trying to control abuse of children, and neither did Reid's vote against it. Coburn offered that amendment when the reconcilation bill was being debated in the Senate in order to derail progress on the health care reform bill. If the Senate made any amendment at all to the bill, then the bill would have had to go back to the House to be debated on again, and Coburn and fellow Republicans were introducing every amendment they could think of that would sound bad to vote against just to force Democrats to choose between sending the bill back for more delay or giving Republicans fake claims to embarrass Democratic opponents about how they voted, as Angle is trying to do. (In fact, the bill had to be sent back to the House anyway for a final fine tuning, but that occurred at the end and not when Coburn's amendment came up).

Coburn also had a health care proposal of his own that he was touting as an alternative, and there was no measure in it forbidding Viagra for sex offenders. Coburn also voted against Franken's anti-rape provision in a defense appropriations bill prior to this. The whole issue is fake.

[Link: politicalcorrection.org...]

Yeah, that's how it works... it's really fucked up. No one benefits from this. (Except people like Sharon Angle, later on, when they need a quick sideshow issue for their campaign.)

210 Vambo  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 7:13:24pm

re: #206 krypto

If you think Sharron Angle is just about achieving some absurd right wing fantasy of paying off the deficit by cutting taxes or about economic growth (when she said it's not her problem to help create jobs in Nevada) then you haven't really been following Sharron Angle.

Here are some of the positions she has taken:

Stop confusing them with facts!!!

Cuttin' taxes 'n boostin' da economy just sounds nicer, doesn't it? If we keep saying Repubs will do that, maybe they will!!

re: #206 krypto

While blaming Reid for the poor Nevada economy, she says it would not be her role as senator to help create jobs in Nevada.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot about that. "Vote for me, I won't do anything!"

211 RogueOne  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 3:12:39am

re: #18 bloodstar

That was the whole point of the amendment, so people could run ads like this. Mind you Sharon Angle is being opportunistic as hell with this, and it's scummy, crappy, and in general unsavory, but I'm willing to bet that in this case there is an equivalency going on here.

Both sides do this crap. It doesn't excuse it. But that's why there's the Truth-o-Meter. Which is a fun little site to see if people have been honest or not.

It should have been a slam dunk amendment and yet the dems still managed to fall into a pit of their own making. I don't feel sorry for Reid, this isn't a lie, and he did vote to allow HCR to cover viagra for convicts. He wasn't smart enough to see this coming which is just more evidence that he's a moron.

212 krypto  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 6:01:33pm

It will be interesting to see just how many well-known Republican figures in Nevada end up endorsing Reid by November 2 because of Angle's unique unsuitability for the US Senate :

"Harry Reid can now boast a second Republican feather in his cap, of sorts. Less than 24-hours after earning the endorsement of Bill Raggio, a highly influential Republican and Nevada state senator, the Senate majority leader on Friday landed the support of Dema Guinn, the wife of the former governor who died unexpectedly this year.

"In a statement, Mrs. Guinn described the commitment of her husband, Kenny Guinn, to education, concluding: “That is why I am supporting Senator Harry Reid for reelection.”

“Senator Reid’s unwavering support for vital education programs such as the Millennium Scholarship, together with his tireless efforts to create new jobs and protect Nevada businesses from the unprecedented challenges we have faced during these trying economic times earned my respect, and my vote,” Mrs. Guinn said.

.....
One day earlier, Mr. Reid received an unlikely — and reluctant — endorsement in a blistering statement issued by Mr. Raggio, in which he criticized Sharron Angle and supported Mr. Reid.

The statement from the veteran lawmaker assailing Ms. Angle, a fellow Republican and Tea Party favorite, and “her extreme and often even radical ideas and positions,” was big news in the Silver State.

“What is difficult to overlook is her record of being totally ineffective as a four-term assemblywoman, her inability or unwillingness to work with others, even within her own party, and her extreme positions on issues such as Medicare, Social Security, education, veterans affairs and many others,” his two-page statement read. “I am lifelong Republican and unlike Ms. Angle, I have never changed parties. I have always supported Jeffersonian principles of free enterprise, low taxes, limited government and fiscal responsibility.”

He concluded that he was “unable to support Sharron Angle” because “we need someone in the U.S. Senate who can be effective, work with others, and best represent the interests of our state.”


[Link: thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com...]

213 ClaudeMonet  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 9:57:05pm

re: #171 pharmmajor

Damn, did that actually happen to you before?

Don't know about kragar, but it happened to me. I bought a used car in 2005 that had a "W" sticker on it. Three months later, at the regional theater convention (obviously not a hotbed of Republican support), some one told me, "Hey, do you drive a Mitsubishi? Looks like one got keyed in the parking lot." And sure enough...

I'm fairly sure I know who did it, and haven't bothered to even acknowledge that person's existence since then. Neither that person nor the car are in the picture anymore.


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