Anti-Mosque Fox Reporter Charged with Child Abuse

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Charles Leaf, the reporter for New York’s Fox 5 who’s been aggressively promoting the “Ground Zero Mosque” bigotry, has been charged with sexually assaulting a 4-year old girl.

Award-winning Fox 5 news reporter Charles Leaf was charged with sexually abusing a 4-year-old girl at his Wyckoff home, Bergen County Prosecutor John Molinelli said.

Leaf is being held in the Bergen County Jail on $250,000 bail and will be arraigned on Nov. 4 in Wyckoff Municipal Court.

Leaf, 41, faces charges of aggravated sexual assault, sexual assault and endangering the welfare of a child. The child is an acquaintance, according to authorities.

Leaf, the married father of two children and an ex-Marine, joined the station in 2006 and is the station’s investigative and general-assignment reporter who has covered national stories, including the Bernard Madoff scandal and the proposed development of a mosque near the World Trade Center site, according to his r�sum� on myfoxny.com.

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1 brownbagj  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 9:54:43am

That poor child. My heart aches.

2 Kragar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 9:55:00am

Sick fuck.

3 brownbagj  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 9:56:29am

If it was my child. He would be in a world of hurt.

He, with is anti-Muslim bigotry and now this, is one pathetic human. I hate it that there are many more like him.

4 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 9:57:13am

In Florida, that's life in prison. I will still push for people like this to go into general population.

5 Political Atheist  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 9:57:40am

Haters always have this dark inner core.
Well time wounds all heels.

6 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:00:46am

OMG!! This guy can make bail!!! WTF???

7 darthstar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:00:52am

Lock him up, throw away the key, and let his name be forgotten. I could care less about how this may or may not reflect on Fox, anti-mosque bigots, or any of that shit. Just get rid of this fucker, and do it quickly.

8 General Nimrod Bodfish  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:01:39am

If the charges are true and he is found guilty, then I hope he gets the maximum under the law.

9 dragonfire1981  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:04:52am

Child abuse doesn't travel along political lines. It's sick no matter who does it.

10 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:05:39am
11 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:07:05am

re: #8 commadore183

If the charges are true and he is found guilty, then I hope he gets the maximum under the law.

Ditto. He's presumed innocent until proven guilty. However, it does not surprise one that two such things could go together. Both require dehumanization of innocent people, in other words, pathological selfishness.

12 Obdicut  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:08:36am

I simply don't understand how anyone at all can view a four year old child as an object of lust.

It makes no sense to me.

13 darthstar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:08:44am

re: #8 commadore183

If the charges are true and he is found guilty, then I hope he gets the maximum under the law.

Same goes for his wife if she knew. Hopefully she didn't, and she can focus on making sure their own kids get the counseling they need.

14 Interesting Times  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:10:13am

More details about this "repulsive reporter"

I profiled Leaf in September in an article titled, “Charles Leaf: The New Most Repulsive Fox News Reporter.” The article details his aggressive, dishonest, and unprofessional behavior in covering real estate developers associated with the Park51 project in Manhattan (the non-mosque that is not at ground zero). The coverage, featured prominently on Megyn Kelly’s Fox News program (as well as The O’Reilly Factor, The Fox Report, Fox & Friends, On the Record, and Geraldo at Large) was based entirely on innuendo and unsupported, sensationalist, allegations.

15 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:10:45am

re: #7 darthstar

Lock him up, throw away the key, and let his name be forgotten. I could care less about how this may or may not reflect on Fox, anti-mosque bigots, or any of that shit. Just get rid of this fucker, and do it quickly.

Ditto. There are child molesters who hold social views I agree with, and child molesters who don't. Doesn't matter. You harm a child, you go to jail. End of story. I don't care if you're a Democrat, a Republican, a Tea Partier, a civil rights attorney, a Stormfront member...

16 lawhawk  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:12:33am

re: #12 Obdicut

Beats the heck out of me, and this isn't the first media guy to be arrested along these lines. A few weeks back, the brother in law of Buddy Valastro, who operates the bakery featured on Cake Boss was arrested on similar charges and he's still in jail b/c he can't make bail and no one will give him the money.

He was one of the featured guys on the show too...

They should rot in prison for what they've done - they destroy lives.

17 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:12:54am
18 General Nimrod Bodfish  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:12:59am

re: #12 Obdicut

Probably the same way that wrenchwench mentioned, that it wasn't that big of a jump from dehumanizing Muslims to objectifying the young girl.

re: #13 darthstar

That didn't enter my mind, but I'll go with that too. I do wonder, though, as a horrifying thought, of how long she was (allegedly) molested, and how the authorities came to find out. I don't think a child of that age would know such actions are wrong.

19 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:14:38am

This is troubling. Describes what was done.
[Link: www.rawstory.com...]

20 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:15:12am

re: #19 Cannadian Club Akbar

This is troubling. Describes what was done.
[Link: www.rawstory.com...]

I don't think I want to read that link.

21 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:15:17am

re: #19 Cannadian Club Akbar

This is troubling. Describes what was done.
[Link: www.rawstory.com...]

Allegedly.

22 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:15:55am

re: #20 NJDhockeyfan

I don't think I want to read that link.

Check the headline. Stop there.

23 darthstar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:17:17am

re: #14 publicityStunted

Newscorpse is great. His dKos name is KingOneEye, and he does some pretty good investigative work, focused mainly on Fox news and its ilk.

24 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:18:34am

re: #22 Cannadian Club Akbar

Check the headline. Stop there.

I saw 'digitally penetrating 4 year old girl' and didn't push the button on my mouse. I can't read these stories. The guy who raped and buried that little girl alive with a stuffed teddy bear in Florida a few years ago still haunts me to this day.

25 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:19:41am

He writes like a complete weasel:

CHARLES LEAF

MYFOXNY.COM - There are so many questions yet to be answered about the development of the mosque and Islamic cultural center planned for Lower Manhattan. Yet for some reason the real estate mogul behind it won't answer them.

Sharif el-Gamal, 37, is the waiter turned mogul behind Park51. He wanted no part of some tough questions about his development of the mosque near ground zero -- his finances, associations, or past.

Why a reputable businessman involved in a project with worldwide interest wouldn't be willing to answer a few questions is hard to understand.

[...]

We tried again to talk to Elzanaty, but once again he took off without answering any of our questions.

Much the way his associate, mosque developer Sharif el-Gamal, did.

El-Gamal remains stubbornly silent. And we've now learned he's also involved in developing another Islamic center in Harlem.

And Hisham Elzanaty -- the man who is essentially the co-signer on el-Gamal's $39 million mortgage for the office building in Chelsea -- is no stranger to headlines.

In 1999, his parents were killed when Egyptian Air Flight 990 crashed into the Atlantic Ocean off of Nantucket Island, according to a report.

26 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:20:55am

re: #24 NJDhockeyfan

John Cooey. IIRC, he died of cancer. Good. But he also held Jessica for 2 or 3 days, a stones throw from her house. The cops even went to the trailer looking for her.

27 darthstar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:21:35am

re: #25 wrenchwench

He writes like a complete weasel:

He writes like that crappy blogger, Erick Erickson...has that same pasty physique, too.

28 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:22:03am
29 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:22:58am

re: #26 Cannadian Club Akbar

John Cooey. IIRC, he died of cancer. Good. But he also held Jessica for 2 or 3 days, a stones throw from her house. The cops even went to the trailer looking for her.

His roommates knew he had that girl there and did nothing to save her. They were not charged with anything either.

30 General Nimrod Bodfish  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:23:20am

re: #19 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wow, that's some pretty sick stuff he (allegedly) did to the child.

What the link also revealed is that this man, if I read the relevant portion right, has had multiple run-ins with the law, not only here but overseas.

He certainly fits in at FOX with his blatant dishonesty and other such bullshit. I would love for nothing more than for people like him to be shun from the public eye and forever disappear from the national stage, but, honestly, I don't want it that way when it involves innocents.

31 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:23:46am

re: #29 NJDhockeyfan

His roommates knew he had that girl there and did nothing to save her. They were not charged with anything either.

Correct. He also spent those days smoking crank and raping Jessica.

32 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:24:32am

re: #28 goddamnedfrank

Thank you.

33 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:24:53am

re: #31 Cannadian Club Akbar

Crack, not crank, PIMF.

34 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:24:54am

This Leaf is a loathsome creature even without these charges, but we have to let the justice system take its course. He is not charged with being an asshole Fox reporter and the actual charge is not proof of guilt. Complete acquittals are rare in cases like this though.

35 Lidane  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:25:07am

Cue the usual suspects calling his arrest a jihadi conspiracy to discredit this guy because of his anti-Park51 stories in 3...2...1...

36 Kragar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:25:50am

Posting what should be done to child molestors would likely be my last post, so I will refrain.

37 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:25:54am
38 Kragar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:26:23am

re: #35 Lidane

Cue the usual suspects calling his arrest a jihadi conspiracy to discredit this guy because of his anti-Park51 stories in 3...2...1...

If I see one post claiming that, I will go ballistic.

39 darthstar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:27:01am

re: #28 goddamnedfrank


Just stop with the sick revenge fantasies, it makes you look like a violent, closeted loser.

I understand why people engage in revenge fantasies - they think it makes them sound cool, tough, whatever - but this is how I read them...sometimes I try to respond and end up giving up. But I like this response, and will use it in the future.

40 lawhawk  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:28:15am

Curiously, I'm having a hard time finding a link to the story on the Fox5NY website. Can't imagine they'd want to highlight the fact that their reporter is accused of such heinous criminal acts.

41 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:28:20am

re: #35 Lidane

Cue the usual suspects calling his arrest a jihadi conspiracy to discredit this guy because of his anti-Park51 stories in 3...2...1...

Hadn't thought of that (I'm slow today) but you are absolutely right. Conspiracy claims will follow as surely as the sun will rise tomorrow morning.

42 Lidane  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:28:51am

re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

If I see one post claiming that, I will go ballistic.

So would most people, but think about how crazy the anti-Muslim crowd can get. They're freaking out over Campbell's soup offering halal certification. You think they're not going to see a conspiracy in an anti-Park51 reporter getting arrested for child rape?

43 darthstar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:29:02am

re: #33 Cannadian Club Akbar

Crack, not crank, PIMF.

Yeah...I did some crank in my day, and it's not something you want to smoke...not that you can't...I just don't advise doing it. Oh, don't do crack, either.

44 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:30:18am

One of the things I like about the Republican candidate for governor of New Mexico is that a large part of her career up to now has been spent prosecuting cases like this. She included some moving remarks about it at a campaign event.

Too bad she's a 100% right-to-lifer and possibly a creationist. Haven't found out about her stance on AGW yet.

45 iossarian  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:30:28am

Prison rape is no joke. People who abuse have often been abused themselves. Obviously they need to be kept away from society, but hoping they continue to be abused is just small-minded.

46 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:30:57am

Sorry about those posts Charles. Stories about people who do that to children really get's my blood boiling. I have two little girls and can't imagine what I would do if they were attacked like that.

I will control myself now.

47 darthstar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:31:34am

re: #40 lawhawk

Curiously, I'm having a hard time finding a link to the story on the Fox5NY website. Can't imagine they'd want to highlight the fact that their reporter is accused of such heinous criminal acts.

They do have the story...you just have to search for it.

[Link: www.myfoxny.com...]

48 General Nimrod Bodfish  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:31:35am

From what the link CCA posted in #19, such (alleged) molestation took place in recent weeks, so that makes me concerned as to how long he has really (allegedly) done this to her?

I really hope this isn't true, just for the sake of the child's health and wellness, but I fear that isn't the case here.

49 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:32:21am

re: #42 Lidane

So would most people, but think about how crazy the anti-Muslim crowd can get. They're freaking out over Campbell's soup offering halal certification. You think they're not going to see a conspiracy in an anti-Park51 reporter getting arrested for child rape?

When the sick militia shit was arrested for the same thing some other militia types and tea partiers did claim it was a frame up. Mostly in AZ.

50 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:32:37am

re: #48 commadore183

From what the link CCA posted in #19, such (alleged) molestation took place in recent weeks, so that makes me concerned as to how long he has really (allegedly) done this to her?

I really hope this isn't true, just for the sake of the child's health and wellness, but I fear that isn't the case here.

Not just her. How long has he been doing it in general to other children?

51 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:33:55am

re: #50 Cannadian Club Akbar

Not just her. How long has he been doing it in general to other children?

You don't get caught shoplifting the first time you do it. I see this as no difference.

52 General Nimrod Bodfish  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:34:48am

re: #50 Cannadian Club Akbar

That too. Unless I remember wrong, some molestation cases often involve multiple victims over a period of time. Hopefully the police will do a thorough investigation in this.

53 Kragar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:35:36am

re: #52 commadore183

That too. Unless I remember wrong, some molestation cases often involve multiple victims over a period of time. Hopefully the police will do a thorough investigation in this.

Check his own kids.

54 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:36:15am

I can't take this right now. I'm going to leave before I post something that earns me a timeout.

BBIAW

55 Interesting Times  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:39:19am

re: #52 commadore183

That too. Unless I remember wrong, some molestation cases often involve multiple victims over a period of time.

You "remember wrong" only in terms of sheer volume.

56 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:40:43am

re: #53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Check his own kids.

And get with other law enforcement officials of places he lived prior. This story might make other kids get a memory jogged. It happens. Live with it for years, suppressing.

57 General Nimrod Bodfish  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:42:26am

re: #55 publicityStunted

Yep, though I only applied that outside of the Catholic Church Sex Abuse Scandal; nevertheless, even one victim is one too many.

58 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:42:56am

Revenge fantasies lose their appeal when they become real. I saw quite a few dead terrorists in Iraq, some of them quite gruesomely so. I have no sympathy at all for them, and I do not regret that they were killed, but I take no pleasure in it.
If I cheer and make jokes about drone attacks in Pakistan, it is really because humor is a defense against the horror of the thing itself. We are right to conduct these attacks, absolutely. However, nobody is strong enough not to run away screaming if they truly grasp the reality of these events without some kind of psychological shield or cushion.

59 Interesting Times  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:43:22am

re: #39 darthstar

I understand why people engage in revenge fantasies - they think it makes them sound cool, tough, whatever

I see another reason - trying to assuage feelings of fear and helplessness that arise from stories like this.

60 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:46:00am

Gotta run. BBIAB.

61 Amory Blaine  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 11:09:17am

Morally bankrupt scum. Peddling lies in the open while secretly corrupting a child.

62 Obdicut  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 11:13:24am

re: #58 Shiplord Kirel

To quote a private from WWII:

The dead look so very dead.

63 garhighway  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 11:30:06am

I respectfully disagree regarding drawing any sort of connection between this guy's anti-mosque stance and his other personal failings. (And therefore this story being an appropriate basis for a thread here.)

People are people. I am sure that in any significantly large random sample you draw, you will find lots of good solid citizens and some criminals of various stripes. I further suspect that the distribution of solid citizens and criminals will be irrespective of their political beliefs.

While I think there is a valid point to be made when a political figure's criminality or moral failing is in direct contradiction to his or her loudly proclaimed beliefs (the anti-gay preacher traveling with rent boy, for example) this is not one of those. This is just sad. There is no political point to make here, no meaningful social commentary to be made. Just pain and sorrow that need not be added to by us.

64 Obdicut  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 11:33:28am

re: #63 garhighway

I absolutely agree. Especially given the very young age of the girl. That's more than could be explained through some sort of general moral callousing. This is an extreme evil.

65 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 11:34:05am

Charles Leaf really was one of the most aggressive and in my view dishonest Fox reporters on this issue, and was featured on the main Fox News channel many times. I don't know about drawing political connections from it, but since that's what he's mainly known for, it's reasonable to describe him that way in the headline.

66 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 11:38:27am

re: #58 Shiplord Kirel

Revenge fantasies lose their appeal when they become real. I saw quite a few dead terrorists in Iraq, some of them quite gruesomely so. I have no sympathy at all for them, and I do not regret that they were killed, but I take no pleasure in it.
If I cheer and make jokes about drone attacks in Pakistan, it is really because humor is a defense against the horror of the thing itself. We are right to conduct these attacks, absolutely. However, nobody is strong enough not to run away screaming if they truly grasp the reality of these events without some kind of psychological shield or cushion.

The surest way to become a pacifist is to join the infantry. - Bill Mauldin

Image: willie.gif

On topic: I'm not surprised. Moral failures often come in groups. So the fact that a lying bigot like this is also a child molester isn't at all unexpected from my point of view.

67 garhighway  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 11:41:02am

re: #65 Charles

Charles Leaf really was one of the most aggressive and in my view dishonest Fox reporters on this issue, and was featured on the main Fox News channel many times. I don't know about drawing political connections from it, but since that's what he's mainly known for, it's reasonable to describe him that way in the headline.

But it's here why, exactly?

Is the crime blotter now? Are you going to report on all such matters, however tawdry and sad they are? People get charged with sad crap like this every day. You generally don't make such things the subject of a thread on the front page. Why do it now?

It's not like I have any sympathy for the "anti-mosque" crowd. I do not. I think the underlying basis for their objections is bigotry, pure and simple. I think we are a better country than that.

But you choose your front page pieces with great care. You have a point to make. What is it with this one?

68 Obdicut  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 11:42:53am

re: #67 garhighway

It does apply to how he does his job. The reverse isn't true; I don't think you can make any connection between him being an anti-mosque bigot and being a child molester. But one can make the assumption that someone who is a child molester is not someone with a strong set of ethics, and therefore all of their work and all of their advocacy does become suspect.

69 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 11:44:23am

re: #67 garhighway

Uh, excuse me ... but I often report on crimes like this when they involve people who are figures in other stories I've covered.

It turns out that one of the main promoters of the anti-mosque crap on Fox News, including some ridiculous personal smears on the developers, seems to be a real creep who abuses children. The whole anti-mosque "movement" (if you want to call it that) shouldn't be tarred with this, but it's not exactly news that many of the people involved in pushing this idiocy are creeps of one kind or another.

70 garhighway  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 11:44:43am

re: #68 Obdicut

It does apply to how he does his job. The reverse isn't true; I don't think you can make any connection between him being an anti-mosque bigot and being a child molester. But one can make the assumption that someone who is a child molester is not someone with a strong set of ethics, and therefore all of their work and all of their advocacy does become suspect.

Aw, c'mon. Because he is a TV reporter he and his family are fair game for this?

That is just wrong.

And remember, shall we, about the presumption of innocence?

71 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 11:46:49am

re: #69 Charles

He also has a strange history of questionable journalistic tactics, almost like he grew up in that O'Keefe mold, so I think this crime is remarkable.

[Link: www.westword.com...]

72 garhighway  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 11:49:09am

re: #69 Charles

The whole anti-mosque "movement" (if you want to call it that) shouldn't be tarred with this, but it's not exactly news that many of the people involved in pushing this idiocy are creeps of one kind or another.

Hey, it's your party, and you can do what you want.

But I think you are better than this.

73 Obdicut  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 11:55:46am

re: #70 garhighway

Aw, c'mon. Because he is a TV reporter he and his family are fair game for this?

That is just wrong.

And remember, shall we, about the presumption of innocence?

What are you talking about? Fair game for what?

74 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 11:56:35am

re: #72 garhighway

I think it's entirely appropriate. Potential Media hypocrisy is almost always pointed out here. Leaf's Emmy comes from a report on a child abduction.

75 dragonfire1981  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 11:57:25am

re: #67 garhighway

Don't worry. If Harry Reid himself had been luring young girls it'd be on this site too. There are no fixed criteria for newsworthiness, but one of the more general is "eminence and prominence", the simple example of which is:

Jim in Kansas has a fall and breaks his back - not important news

The President of the United States falls and breaks his back - far more worthy of coverage simply because who this person is.

This guy isn't just some nobody from Kentucky, he's a reporter who's worked for Fox and been involved in the Mosque fight, hence newsworthy.

76 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 12:01:05pm

Here's a question for you Gar: do you think that Leaf would hesitate even for a second to write a story if it were someone involved in Park51 arrested for child sexual abuse?

A: Neither he, nor any other Fox reporter would. They'd be in a race to see who could file it first.

77 garhighway  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 12:10:48pm

re: #76 Thanos

Here's a question for you Gar: do you think that Leaf would hesitate even for a second to write a story if it were someone involved in Park51 arrested for child sexual abuse?

A: Neither he, nor any other Fox reporter would. They'd be in a race to see who could file it first.

I have no idea, and I would respectfully suggest that "he's in the mud so I should be, too" is not a good way to behave.

I gather that I am a little old-fashioned on this point, but I think that families ought to be off-limits unless they have deliberately injected themselves into some public debate. But that's just me.

78 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 12:13:43pm

Still waiting for the following talking point to surface:

"Typical liberal equivalency: Ground Zero Mosque Opponents = Child Molesters."

I suspect it has already on a stalker site, but I am not going to go look for it.

79 Obdicut  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 12:14:58pm

re: #77 garhighway

What family?

80 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 12:15:21pm

re: #77 garhighway

I think you are being disingenuous when you say "I have no idea". IT's FOX NEWS! It would be wall to wall for weeks and you know it.

81 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 12:17:49pm

re: #35 Lidane

Cue the usual suspects calling his arrest a jihadi conspiracy to discredit this guy because of his anti-Park51 stories in 3...2...1...

That's bound to happen. Give Pam ten minutes.

82 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 12:21:39pm

What kind of sick fuck does something like this? Poor little girl. My heart goes out to her and her family.

83 garhighway  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 12:25:24pm

re: #80 Thanos

I think you are being disingenuous when you say "I have no idea". IT's FOX NEWS! It would be wall to wall for weeks and you know it.

Maybe they would. It's their local station, where the tempo of news is pretty fast, and probably skews towards fires and murders. But I don't have that much feel for that, as I don't watch any of the local news stations and I don't watch Fox News except for the occasional excerpt on The Daily Show. So if you watch them and can comment authoritatively, I defer to you.

84 garhighway  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 12:41:22pm

re: #79 Obdicut

What family?

In this case, the four year-old, who I realize is not strictly speaking family. In other cases, people like the Palin kids.

If I were King of the World, no one would report any news of any political offspring until they reach 25 or so. Until then, they are props at best and ought be left alone. So for me, that would have included the Bush daughters as well.

And in matters like this, the less reporting prior to verdict or guilty plea (remember: innocent until proven guilty!) the better. This is not a matter of public interest, it is just a sad piece of tragedy. Especially when the guy is such a small fish.

85 Obdicut  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 12:42:17pm

re: #84 garhighway

The four year old, who's name isn't being released, isn't being brought into it. It's a purely specious argument on your part.

86 garhighway  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 12:46:42pm

re: #85 Obdicut

The four year old, who's name isn't being released, isn't being brought into it. It's a purely specious argument on your part.

So you think this thread is appropriate?

"Anti-mosque reporter charged with child abuse" works for you? No misgivings?

87 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 12:47:13pm

re: #86 garhighway

So you think this thread is appropriate?

"Anti-mosque reporter charged with child abuse" works for you? No misgivings?

I have absolutely no misgivings about the headline.

88 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 12:51:38pm

re: #83 garhighway

It would be wall to wall on Nat'l fox news, not just local. You'd hear about it from Glenn, Greta, Hannity and O'Reilly.

89 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 12:52:41pm

re: #86 garhighway

It's 100 pct factual, I don't understand your beef with it.

90 garhighway  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 12:54:40pm

re: #88 Thanos

It would be wall to wall on Nat'l fox news, not just local. You'd hear about it from Glenn, Greta, Hannity and O'Reilly.

Your question was whether Leaf would do a story.

He's local.

The rest are scumbags and I carry no water for them.

91 garhighway  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 1:07:06pm

re: #89 Thanos

It's 100 pct factual, I don't understand your beef with it.

Of course it's "100% factual".

Beyond that, if you don't understand my misgivings, then you don't. I fully understand that this is purely a matter of personal taste and judgment, and everyone has their own standards.

With that, I am done on this topic.

92 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 1:15:48pm

re: #81 SanFranciscoZionist

That's bound to happen. Give Pam ten minutes.

And a few slugs of vodka.

93 researchok  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 1:16:00pm

The story is about Leaf. His identity as a FOX reporter and what he reports on is part and parcel of who he is. His is a public persona.

If he worked for NBS or CNN or any other media outlet as a science reporter or religion reporter, that same information would be germane.

94 Mentis Fugit  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 1:49:24pm

re: #47 darthstar

They do have the story...you just have to search for it.

[Link: www.myfoxny.com...]


And in the comments there we find,
"he was set up by the mosque developers for his debunking of their plan"

What a surprise.

95 donna quixote  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 2:43:30pm

Is there any proof?

96 donna quixote  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 2:43:56pm

Is there any proof?

97 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 2:49:32pm

re: #96 donna quixote

Is there any proof?

No, he was arrested as part of a witch hunt by the liberal Media Establishment...

98 jaydub  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 2:51:30pm

Newman!
/Seinfeld off

Sorry - first thing I thought when I saw his pic.

99 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 5:24:24pm

re: #90 garhighway

Your question was whether Leaf would do a story.

He's local.

The rest are scumbags and I carry no water for them.

Well Fox encourages this sort of hyperbolic reporting and shit stirring at all levels. Leaf is a wannabe Hannity judging from the past incidents posted upthread.

100 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, Oct 8, 2010 6:33:06pm

Any word on if he believed her to be a Muslim or not? Because you know this will be defended as a totally 100% justified and even patriotic act of self-defense if she was Islamic...

//sorry about that, I think I need a shower now...yecch. :(

101 calix  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 11:26:16am

Child molesting is nasty, disgusting and should be heavily punished.
Ground Zero mosque bigotry is a mendacity
But. Is the one making the other worse? Or, do you Charles imply that those two are related?

102 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:47:42pm

re: #101 calix

Child molesting is nasty, disgusting and should be heavily punished.
Ground Zero mosque bigotry is a mendacity
But. Is the one making the other worse? Or, do you Charles imply that those two are related?

They are related in this story by the man who exercised the bigotry and was charged with the abuse. No way to separate them in this case, it's one guy.

103 Hawaii69  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 4:11:35am

FOX NEWS is a joke, but this guy didn't work for FOX News.

He worked for a local FOX Network affiliate....the guys who air The Simpsons and Furturama.


Equating them with FOX Cable News isn't accurate.

104 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 9:36:40am

re: #103 Hawaii69

FOX NEWS is a joke, but this guy didn't work for FOX News.

He worked for a local FOX Network affiliate...the guys who air The Simpsons and Furturama.

Equating them with FOX Cable News isn't accurate.

I have no idea why you're pointing this out as if it's a "gotcha," when my post is extremely clear about that.

His anti-mosque stories were featured many times on Fox News, however, and he appeared personally to promote them.


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