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1 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 4:45:10pm

Google "Bachmann Crazy" for more!
Lol.

2 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 4:45:50pm

FBV has a guide...

Don't vote for Sarah Palin.

Pretty short guide, don'tcha think?

3 MisterCookie  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 4:48:59pm

Is this the same DC Douglas that voiced Albert Wesker!?

4 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 4:49:00pm

Thank goodness the video doesn't apply to me. I'm not a good Christian. This is only for good Christian voters, right?

5 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 4:56:06pm

re: #3 MisterCookie

Is this the same DC Douglas that voiced Albert Wesker!?

Yep.

He's quite the busy guy, in fact.

6 Four More Tears  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 4:56:12pm

What does it mean when the number 1 Mama Grizzly isn't even a momma?

7 Obdicut  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 4:57:10pm

re: #2 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And don't vote for anyone seeking her endorsement.

8 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 4:57:30pm

re: #6 JasonA

What does it mean when the number 1 Mama Grizzly isn't even a momma?

She's OUR Momma. Prepare yourselves for a Theocratic America.

9 Ming  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 4:59:34pm

I am especially saddened that more Republicans are not willing to speak out against the crazy wing of their party. I will always be proud that I voted for Ronald Reagan in 1980 and 1984. I am horrified that people like Christine O'Donnell, Sharron Angle, and Sarah Palin are thought to be Reagan's successors. It is particularly unfortunate to see Peggy Noonan, a speechwriter of Reagan's whom I used to greatly admire, seemingly not all that interested in how PROFOUND the differences are between Ronald Reagan and these people. It makes sense that the Reagan family never got on the crazy-bandwagon. I feel I need to apologize to President Reagan for the fact that people would even think to associate him with these crazies, simply because no one else apparently will bother to make the apology. Nothing to see here, move along... in the new century, seeing is for other countries, not us.

10 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:00:55pm

Gays could be cured of their fabulousness!

Oh BEhave!

11 Interesting Times  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:02:26pm

re: #1 Varek Raith

Google "Bachmann Crazy" for more! Lol.

And Google Suggest can even do the work for you...

12 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:02:59pm

Body fat monitoring? I thought that was a Nanny State thing. Hmmm.

13 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:03:30pm

re: #9 Ming

And with all that artillery at his disposal, Reid still folded like a tent with Angle. That's pathetic.

14 darthstar  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:03:44pm

re: #11 publicityStunted

And Google Suggest can even do the work for you...

Google needs an "I'm feeling crazy" button for that search.

15 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:04:24pm

Boo!! Foul!1! Discrimination!!!1!!

My Sarah-certified Mamma Grizzly, Martha Roby, didn't make the cut. Just because she's from Crimson-Tide, Died-in-the-Blood Alabama doesn't mean she can be ignored by the Hollywood Elite mutoscope drivers.

(On the other hand, I've already had the pleasure of voting against her. First!! WOO.)

16 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:05:03pm

Ha! "Rats with fully functioning human brains" with Andrew Breitbart in the background. D'oh!

17 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:05:07pm

re: #12 Gus 802

If you look at the doughboy darlings of the far right, they have reason to fear body fat monitoring. Oh hell no.

18 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:05:42pm

I love the shot of Brietbart for "Rats with fully functional human brains"

19 darthstar  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:06:43pm

re: #18 Killgore Trout

I love the shot of Brietbart for "Rats with fully functional human brains"

I disagree with that. I don't believe Breitbart has a fully functional human brain.

20 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:06:43pm

re: #18 Killgore Trout

I love the shot of Brietbart for "Rats with fully functional human brains"

Of course there is one slight problem. Andrew Breitbart doesn't a have a fully functional human brain.

//

21 darthstar  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:07:11pm

re: #20 Gus 802

Of course there is one slight problem. Andrew Breitbart doesn't a have a fully functional human brain.

//

Jinx!

22 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:07:29pm

re: #21 darthstar

Jinx!

Science!

/

23 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:07:58pm

re: #9 Ming

I am especially saddened that more Republicans are not willing to speak out against the crazy wing of their party. I will always be proud that I voted for Ronald Reagan in 1980 and 1984. I am horrified that people like Christine O'Donnell, Sharron Angle, and Sarah Palin are thought to be Reagan's successors. It is particularly unfortunate to see Peggy Noonan, a speechwriter of Reagan's whom I used to greatly admire, seemingly not all that interested in how PROFOUND the differences are between Ronald Reagan and these people. It makes sense that the Reagan family never got on the crazy-bandwagon. I feel I need to apologize to President Reagan for the fact that people would even think to associate him with these crazies, simply because no one else apparently will bother to make the apology. Nothing to see here, move along... in the new century, seeing is for other countries, not us.

Unfortunately the crazy wing of the party has taken over, so the reluctance to speak out against them is pure self-preservation. Getting called a RINO can be dangerous to the health of a politician's career (see Bennett, Castle, et al), so the moderate and sane ones keep quiet.

24 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:10:24pm

Bunch of anti-feminists if you ask me.

It's bizarre how the world has changed. I had hoped we would evolve to a more feminist society, not a lesser one. These women are so much of a step back for 1/2 of America. gah

25 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:10:47pm

re: #19 darthstar

re: #20 Gus 802

An actual tie, by the time stamp. I don't think I've seen that before.

26 Linden Arden  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:11:23pm

Every sperm is sacred....

27 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:11:42pm

re: #25 wrenchwench

re: #20 Gus 802

An actual tie, by the time stamp. I don't think I've seen that before.

It's happened to me once before.

28 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:14:02pm

re: #9 Ming

I am especially saddened that more Republicans are not willing to speak out against the crazy wing of their party. I will always be proud that I voted for Ronald Reagan in 1980 and 1984. I am horrified that people like Christine O'Donnell, Sharron Angle, and Sarah Palin are thought to be Reagan's successors. It is particularly unfortunate to see Peggy Noonan, a speechwriter of Reagan's whom I used to greatly admire, seemingly not all that interested in how PROFOUND the differences are between Ronald Reagan and these people. It makes sense that the Reagan family never got on the crazy-bandwagon. I feel I need to apologize to President Reagan for the fact that people would even think to associate him with these crazies, simply because no one else apparently will bother to make the apology. Nothing to see here, move along... in the new century, seeing is for other countries, not us.

Listening to Noonan makes me want to run around the room shrieking with my hair on fire.

Too silly?

I think an earwig eating my brain would be a more comfortable sensation than watching her prattle on.

Too strong?

I really hate Peggy Noonan.

29 Linden Arden  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:15:03pm

every sperm is great...

30 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:17:20pm

re: #9 Ming

Well, there was that deal with Nancy and astrology... And Ronnie didn't exactly kick out the far right for crackers.

31 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:17:43pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

Bunch of anti-feminists if you ask me.

It's bizarre how the world has changed. I had hoped we would evolve to a more feminist society, not a lesser one. These women are so much of a step back for 1/2 of America. gah

We have evolved. Don't let these Neanderthalettes discourage you.

32 Linden Arden  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:18:54pm

re: #31 wrenchwench

Neanderthalettes.


Ugghh approves!

33 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:20:01pm

re: #31 wrenchwench

We have evolved. Don't let these Neanderthalettes discourage you.

I know I know.

Thank you for the neanderthalettes though.

34 Sionainn  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:20:28pm

re: #13 theheat

And with all that artillery at his disposal, Reid still folded like a tent with Angle. That's pathetic.

It was pathetic, but he's the only option. I'd rather vote for that than crazy.

35 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:21:14pm

re: #31 wrenchwench

Sadly, the Neanderthals don't believe in Neanderthals. I guess we could call them Lucys, as an insult.

36 Sionainn  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:23:17pm

re: #30 theheat

Well, there was that deal with Nancy and astrology... And Ronnie didn't exactly kick out the far right for crackers.

I read that as "Ronnie didn't exactly kick out the far right crackers."
/

37 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:24:03pm

GEICO sucks.

38 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:25:42pm

re: #37 Gus 802

Is it a cave man thing, an insurance issue, or ? Are you sure they suck?

39 Linden Arden  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:27:08pm

I consider the Neanderthals to be absolutely fascinating.

The Bible is almost all fiction of course - except for the allegorical aspect of it. We know agri/tiller man killed off herder/hunter man roughly 5000-8000 bc.

And in Genesis - Cain killed Abel.

did they know Abel represented the Neanderthal?

40 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:27:58pm

re: #34 Sionainn

It was pathetic, but he's the only option. I'd rather vote for that than crazy.

OK, must report back on my conversation with my Yellow Dog Democrat Aunt in Las Vegas. She's a sage, who loves to brag about her Watergate afghan, she watched every single hearing on TV while crocheting this thing.

She said that Harry is a tough old guy, reminded me that he was a boxer (huh?) in his youth.

Her opinion was that he held back in the debate so not to turn off the majority of the electorate. She said to watch out for his new ads. (and he did release one today attacking Angle in the debate)

I'm going to look up the boxing stuff soon.

41 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:28:02pm

re: #38 theheat

Is it a cave man thing, an insurance issue, or ? Are you sure they suck?

DC Douglas is the voice over actor that got fired by GEICO over the Tea Party/voice mail/r-word/Big Government flap.

More here: [Link: www.myvoiceoverguy.com...]

42 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:29:19pm

re: #28 marjoriemoon

Listening to Noonan makes me want to run around the room shrieking with my hair on fire.

Too silly?

I think an earwig eating my brain would be a more comfortable sensation than watching her prattle on.

Too strong?

I really hate Peggy Noonan.

Noonan did a piece on Hillary, many years ago, that was pretty much an early version of the current anti-elitist crap.

43 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:30:31pm

re: #39 Linden Arden

I consider the Neanderthals to be absolutely fascinating.

The Bible is almost all fiction of course - except for the allegorical aspect of it. We know agri/tiller man killed off herder/hunter man roughly 5000-8000 bc.

And in Genesis - Cain killed Abel.

did they know Abel represented the Neanderthal?

That's an interesting reading.

44 Linden Arden  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:31:58pm

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

Noonan did a piece on Hillary, many years ago, that was pretty much an early version of the current anti-elitist crap.

I would pay some coinage to see Noonan mud-wrestle Michelle Malkin.

45 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:32:02pm

The Guardian article is turning into an endless parade of stalker talking points. It's ridiculous.

I just had to debunk the "St. Pancake" lie again, for the nth time.

46 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:33:11pm

re: #41 Gus 802

Lance: I’m thinking of mounting another cabaret called, “My Life As A Gay Abortionist Immigrant” … It’s a working title. It’ll be about this whole affair. We might get Tom Wilkinson to play Dick Armey, but rumor has it he only takes on roles if he finds something he likes about the character. Kibbe will be played by a wet blanket.

47 Sionainn  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:33:27pm

re: #40 Stanley Sea

OK, must report back on my conversation with my Yellow Dog Democrat Aunt in Las Vegas. She's a sage, who loves to brag about her Watergate afghan, she watched every single hearing on TV while crocheting this thing.

She said that Harry is a tough old guy, reminded me that he was a boxer (huh?) in his youth.

Her opinion was that he held back in the debate so not to turn off the majority of the electorate. She said to watch out for his new ads. (and he did release one today attacking Angle in the debate)

I'm going to look up the boxing stuff soon.

Chuckling about your aunt. My grandma was a Watergate expert...so very into politics. I know she'd be thoroughly disgusted with the current state of affairs in our country.

Yes, Reid was a boxer in his youth. The local a.m. radio stations love to make fun of his biography. Heidi Harris and her listeners were going on and on this morning about how Angle clearly won the debate last night. It made me wonder if we watched the same debate.

Yeah, I think he was holding back so as not to appear to be attacking a woman. It'll be interesting to see the new ads.

48 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:33:38pm

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

Noonan did a piece on Hillary, many years ago, that was pretty much an early version of the current anti-elitist crap.

I can see that. She really causes a reaction in me. I've even gone so far as to shut off the TV or Tivo past her. I get the same reaction from Katrina Van Housel-Doosel (I never remember her name), the editor of The Nation.

See, I can be bipartisan!

Oh hey, I see TFK had some comments at the Guardian LOL good grief.

49 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:37:17pm

re: #45 Charles

The Guardian article is turning into an endless parade of stalker talking points. It's ridiculous.

I just had to debunk the "St. Pancake" lie again, for the nth time.

They are such liars! They created the name. I also made comments about that at the time.

50 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:37:35pm

re: #47 Sionainn

I always ask my Aunt if things are different now. Like every conversation I bring it up.

She says no, just access to info is different, but politics, no.

51 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:39:28pm

re: #49 marjoriemoon

They are such liars! They created the name. I also made comments about that at the time.

That's right -- some of the people who now constantly bring up "St. Pancake" are the same ones who USED the phrase constantly at LGF.

52 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:41:10pm

Hey LGF. I welcome you to my 20,000 karma party!!

Love it!

53 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:42:28pm

re: #51 Charles

That's right -- some of the people who now constantly bring up "St. Pancake" are the same ones who USED the phrase constantly at LGF.

I find that very odd and it displays the high level of cognitive dissonance they possess. It wasn't even very long ago when it was almost hard to watch many of the remaining nutters when the MV Rachel Corrie made its way to Gaza and a few of them still brought it up.

54 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:43:53pm

re: #47 Sionainn

Chuckling about your aunt. My grandma was a Watergate expert...so very into politics. I know she'd be thoroughly disgusted with the current state of affairs in our country.

Yes, Reid was a boxer in his youth. The local a.m. radio stations love to make fun of his biography. Heidi Harris and her listeners were going on and on this morning about how Angle clearly won the debate last night. It made me wonder if we watched the same debate.

Yeah, I think he was holding back so as not to appear to be attacking a woman. It'll be interesting to see the new ads.

Did you find more on the church:brothel ratio? I'm starting to think it's two different towns. Will pursue.

55 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:44:26pm

re: #52 Stanley Sea

Hey LGF. I welcome you to my 20,000 karma party!!

Love it!

please report for Karnival...

56 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:45:13pm

re: #52 Stanley Sea

Hey LGF. I welcome you to my 20,000 karma party!!

Love it!

I was promised a toaster when I passed 1000.
WHERE'S MAH TOASTER!?!?

57 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:46:19pm

re: #52 Stanley Sea

Ding whore...

58 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:46:51pm

re: #56 Varek Raith

I was promised a toaster when I passed 1000.
WHERE'S MAH TOASTER!?!?

with your unicorn... unicorns like toaster waffles.

59 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:46:58pm

re: #57 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ding whore...

Projection.
:P

60 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:47:11pm

re: #56 Varek Raith

I was promised a toaster when I passed 1000.
WHERE'S MAH TOASTER!?!?

I'm loving it!

61 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:48:20pm

re: #53 Gus 802

I find that very odd and it displays the high level of cognitive dissonance they possess. It wasn't even very long ago when it was almost hard to watch many of the remaining nutters when the MV Rachel Corrie made its way to Gaza and a few of them still brought it up.

And by the way ... that's it? That's all they have? "St. Pancake," a phrase I never used, and didn't like?

It was crass and tasteless and that's why I didn't like it. But even if I HAD used it, this is pretty weak stuff with which to argue that I'm an evil monster and must be shunned by all decent people forever. Thank the gods I never blogged while I was a touring musician. "St. Pancake" wouldn't have even raised eyebrows on a tour bus.

It's an essentially dishonest ploy on a very basic level too, because many of the people who are using it know very well it's a smear, and not true.

62 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:48:24pm

re: #57 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ding whore...

excuse me, excuse me, the accepted term is "ding worker"...

63 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:49:48pm

re: #62 brookly red

excuse me, excuse me, the accepted term is "ding worker"...

Ding entrepreneur.

64 Sionainn  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:50:55pm

re: #54 Decatur Deb

Did you find more on the church:brothel ratio? I'm starting to think it's two different towns. Will pursue.

I completely forgot about it, but just looked it up...looks like there was prostitution throughout Nevada until 1971 when it was outlawed in Clark County (where Searchlight is now located). According to Wiki, Reid wrote in his autobiography that when he was a youth, there were 13 brothels and no churches.

65 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:52:59pm

re: #63 Stanley Sea

Ding entrepreneur.

now I managed to smooth over the word whore, but in these times entrepreneur is a dirty word...

66 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:53:17pm

re: #64 Sionainn

Check. Just found it in a review. Wish he ran the Senate on the cathouse bouncer model.

67 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:53:19pm

Captdiggs was an obsessed nut and remains an obsessed nut.

68 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:53:37pm

re: #58 brookly red

with your unicorn... unicorns like toaster waffles.

I'm envisioning the unicorn with waffles skewered all down its horn.

69 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:54:20pm

OT...

I just saw a preview for the movie "Red".

Ernest Borgnine is still alive.

I did not know that.

70 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:54:37pm

re: #61 Charles

And by the way ... that's it? That's all they have? "St. Pancake," a phrase I never used, and didn't like?

It was crass and tasteless and that's why I didn't like it. But even if I HAD used it, this is pretty weak stuff with which to argue that I'm an evil monster and must be shunned by all decent people forever. Thank the gods I never blogged while I was a touring musician. "St. Pancake" wouldn't have even raised eyebrows on a tour bus.

It's an essentially dishonest ploy on a very basic level too, because many of the people who are using it know very well it's a smear, and not true.

Well, it baffles me. I can understand it being used as ammunition by left-leaning anti-Charles types. But this is the stalkerblogger types, right? They should LOVE the phrase.

71 darthstar  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:54:51pm

I don't want to claim (without knowing for a fact) that the asshole who shot at kids in Carlsbad, CA was a wingnut, but apparently he was shouting "Death to Obama!" when he started his rampage.

[Link: crooksandliars.com...]

72 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:54:56pm

re: #68 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm envisioning the unicorn with waffles skewered all down its horn.

don't worry they are organic...

73 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:55:13pm

re: #68 SanFranciscoZionist

It's not the waffles, it's the syrup they like. Unicorns love syrup. Heck, they'll run you over the top of you for a slurp or two.

With that, I must go feed mine. BBL.

74 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:55:17pm

re: #69 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

OT...

I just saw a preview for the movie "Red".

Ernest Borgnine is still alive.

I did not know that.

93.

75 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:55:44pm

re: #69 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

OT...

I just saw a preview for the movie "Red".

Ernest Borgnine is still alive.

I did not know that.

errr... what's it to yah?

76 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:55:53pm

re: #67 Gus 802

Captdiggs was an obsessed nut and remains an obsessed nut.

I knew when I blocked the creep that he was going to go full metal stalker.

77 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:57:34pm

re: #70 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, it baffles me. I can understand it being used as ammunition by left-leaning anti-Charles types. But this is the stalkerblogger types, right? They should LOVE the phrase.

They DO love that phrase. They do not love the mirror.

78 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:57:57pm

The wingnuts are still freaking out today because Mrs Obama ate a hamburger 3 days ago.
/not kidding.

79 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:58:18pm

re: #70 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, it baffles me. I can understand it being used as ammunition by left-leaning anti-Charles types. But this is the stalkerblogger types, right? They should LOVE the phrase.

They do! But now it's more important to try to use it to discredit me with the Guardian, because these people aren't just obsessed and crazy, they do whatever they can to try to cause me actual harm in the real world.

It's the same evil vindictiveness that led the stalkers to try to get PayPal to cancel my account -- at which they failed miserably.

80 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:58:23pm

re: #71 darthstar

I don't want to claim (without knowing for a fact) that the asshole who shot at kids in Carlsbad, CA was a wingnut, but apparently he was shouting "Death to Obama!" when he started his rampage.

[Link: crooksandliars.com...]

Yes, he did. No one has really picked up on it till now though.

81 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 5:59:55pm

re: #78 Killgore Trout

The wingnuts are still freaking out today because Mrs Obama ate a hamburger 3 days ago.
/not kidding.

but we will be paying for it till 2019... well 2021 if she got fries.

82 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:00:05pm

re: #78 Killgore Trout

The wingnuts are still freaking out today because Mrs Obama ate a hamburger 3 days ago.
/not kidding.

Did she, I don't know, knock down an old lady for her hamburger? Did she make the hamburger out the left leg of a Republican congressman? Why, exactly, should Mrs. Obama not have eaten a hamburger, a quintessentally American act performed by lots of people on a daily basis?

83 darthstar  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:01:01pm

re: #80 Stanley Sea

Yes, he did. No one has really picked up on it till now though.

Well, it's kind of close to an election, you know, and if you asked the 2nd Amendment types running for office if they agreed, it might make their heads explode as they argue that he had the right to bear arms, but chose to do so less than appropriately.

84 pharmmajor  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:01:09pm

My voter's guide:

Examine all Independent and Third Party candidates, and vote for every one that seems better than the Democratic or Republican candidate.

85 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:01:11pm

Yay! My brother and I sold our CGC-graded copy of X-Men #1 on eBay for a very nice price.

86 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:01:13pm

re: #82 SanFranciscoZionist

Did she, I don't know, knock down an old lady for her hamburger? Did she make the hamburger out the left leg of a Republican congressman? Why, exactly, should Mrs. Obama not have eaten a hamburger, a quintessentally American act performed by lots of people on a daily basis?

GOBurger.
Omnomnom!

87 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:01:21pm

re: #82 SanFranciscoZionist

I had a black bean burger the other day at Chilis'... Was good.

88 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:01:38pm

re: #78 Killgore Trout

The wingnuts are still freaking out today because Mrs Obama ate a hamburger 3 days ago.
/not kidding.

Yikes. I forgot about that. Saw it flash by and thought it would set the wingers off. Frankly I thought they'd be freaking out about the FLOTUS "electioneering" story from today. That and the "3 dollar raffle" email. I'm sure they're freaking out about "all of the above". I think that's the key to being a winger: freak out about everything and anything 24/7.

89 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:02:42pm

re: #82 SanFranciscoZionist

They think that people who talk about healthy eating shouldn't eat hamburgers. It's outrageous to them.

90 pharmmajor  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:02:47pm

re: #85 Charles

Yay! My brother and I sold our CGC-graded copy of X-Men #1 on eBay for a very nice price.

Congratulations. How much did you get for it?

91 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:03:14pm

re: #71 darthstar

I don't want to claim (without knowing for a fact) that the asshole who shot at kids in Carlsbad, CA was a wingnut, but apparently he was shouting "Death to Obama!" when he started his rampage.

[Link: crooksandliars.com...]

Obvious false flag. I wonder how much Soros had to pay him to accept prison into his old age, and what he might do with the money in San Quentin?

92 bratwurst  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:03:19pm

re: #78 Killgore Trout

The wingnuts are still freaking out today because Mrs Obama ate a hamburger 3 days ago.
/not kidding.

Did she put ELITIST Dijon Mustard on it?

93 Max  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:03:41pm

re: #67 Gus 802

Captdiggs was an obsessed nut and remains an obsessed nut.

He was an asshole. He down-dinged every page I posted about the anti-mosque lunatics.

94 Capitalist Tool  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:04:01pm

re: #92 bratwurst

Did she put ELITIST Dijon Mustard on it?

it was the arugula that did 'em in

95 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:04:58pm

re: #93 Max D. Reinhardt

He was an asshole. He down-dinged every page I posted about the anti-mosque lunatics.

Strange bird he was. He never said a peep about himself. Not even anything like "my foot hurts today."

96 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:05:43pm

re: #61 Charles

And by the way ... that's it? That's all they have? "St. Pancake," a phrase I never used, and didn't like?

It was crass and tasteless and that's why I didn't like it. But even if I HAD used it, this is pretty weak stuff with which to argue that I'm an evil monster and must be shunned by all decent people forever. Thank the gods I never blogged while I was a touring musician. "St. Pancake" wouldn't have even raised eyebrows on a tour bus.

It's an essentially dishonest ploy on a very basic level too, because many of the people who are using it know very well it's a smear, and not true.

Absolutely. What also bothers me are the lies about things like "He banned me for downdinging." But that would be "stealth downdinging" except they leave out the stealth part. Going through thread after thread and downdinging every comment by someone they didn't like, even if the person posted "Goodnight" or "Hello" etc. Using your dings as a grudge lol

97 Max  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:05:45pm

re: #67 Gus 802

Captdiggs was an obsessed nut and remains an obsessed nut.

He also accused me of dhimmitude and of excusing Islamist suicide bombers. Fuck him.

98 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:05:52pm

re: #95 Gus 802

Strange bird he was. He never said a peep about himself. Not even anything like "my foot hurts today."

I just smashed my elbow in the shelves next to me.
It hurt!

99 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:06:09pm

re: #89 Killgore Trout

They think that people who talk about healthy eating shouldn't eat hamburgers. It's outrageous to them.

My father's doctor says she 'tries to make healthy food choices most of the time'. I don't think that saying that kids shouldn't eat an all-hamburger diet means that you should never be allowed a hamburger.

Besides, she's always liked hamburgers.

100 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:06:32pm

re: #74 Varek Raith

93.

I was all about McCale's Navy lol

101 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:07:11pm

re: #97 Max D. Reinhardt

He also accused me of dhimmitude and of excusing Islamist suicide bombers. Fuck him.

"Dhimmitude" isn't a word. It's also not a verb.

102 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:07:29pm
103 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:08:20pm

re: #101 SanFranciscoZionist

"Dhimmitude" isn't a word. It's also not a verb.

A degenerate, am I? Well you are a festizio! See, I can make up words too, sister.
-Peter Griffin.

104 Max  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:09:09pm

re: #92 bratwurst

Did she put ELITIST Dijon Mustard on it?

GREY POUPON!

105 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:09:37pm

re: #101 SanFranciscoZionist

"Dhimmitude" isn't a word. It's also not a verb.

it is now... lets register it with Websters and split the commission?

106 pharmmajor  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:10:25pm

re: #104 Max D. Reinhardt

GREY POUPON!

Well that just proves she's out of touch with the American people. Everyone knows you only put ketchup on a burger, along with some sliced red onion and tomato and some good sharp cheddar.

107 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:10:50pm

re: #99 SanFranciscoZionist

My father's doctor says she 'tries to make healthy food choices most of the time'. I don't think that saying that kids shouldn't eat an all-hamburger diet means that you should never be allowed a hamburger.

Besides, she's always liked hamburgers.

Oh yeah. I forgot about that story. The "sneaking out for burgers" from the White House.

This is yet another case where you would expect they would applaud such an appetite yet all we get is the typical groans and moans from the ever complaining wingers.

108 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:10:57pm

re: #106 pharmmajor

Well that just proves she's out of touch with the American people. Everyone knows you only put ketchup on a burger, along with some sliced red onion and tomato and some good sharp cheddar.

NO.
BBQ sauce.
/Commie!

109 MinisterO  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:11:04pm

The video was really well done. I could hear the narrator's shit-eating grin, if that makes sense.

I'd never seen half of those candidates. It really feels to me like this country is about implode under the weight of teh stupid.

110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:11:21pm

re: #106 pharmmajor

Well that just proves she's out of touch with the American people. Everyone knows you only put ketchup on a burger, along with some sliced red onion and tomato and some good sharp cheddar.

Pineapple?

111 Max  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:11:35pm

re: #106 pharmmajor

Well that just proves she's out of touch with the American people. Everyone knows you only put ketchup on a burger, along with some sliced red onion and tomato and some good sharp cheddar.

Sharp cheddar? Traitor! We use American cheese, and only if it's from a spray can.

112 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:12:21pm

re: #111 Max D. Reinhardt

Sharp cheddar? Traitor! We use American cheese, and only if it's from a spray can.

Bleh!
Deli cheese FTW.
None of that processed crap for me!

113 pharmmajor  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:12:43pm

re: #110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Pineapple?

As Shawn Spencer would say, "are you a fan of delicious flavor?"

Seriously though, I have a really good burger recipe if anyone's interested.

114 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:12:46pm

re: #109 MinisterO

It really feels to me like this country is about implode under the weight of teh stupid.

It has always been there if you ask me; I don't think anything is about to collapse.

115 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:13:00pm

re: #105 brookly red

it is now... lets register it with Websters and split the commission?

It's still not a verb.

I just have an issue with the Special Language of Islam, as used by non-Muslims on the internet.

The nuts in these woods all know 'dhimmi' and 'jizya', and 'Dar al-Harb'. Never seen 'zakat' used in casual conversation, though.

116 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:13:17pm

re: #52 Stanley Sea

Hey LGF. I welcome you to my 20,000 karma party!!

Love it!

That's not fair, you have too much. I want some.

Where's the Karma redistribution when you need it.

117 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:13:33pm

re: #111 Max D. Reinhardt

Cheetos will burn for several minutes.

118 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:13:34pm

re: #99 SanFranciscoZionist

My neighborhood has had a huge influx of those gourmet food carts. The food is amazing and much cheaper than a fast food combo. It might be a while before I have a burger again.

119 Max  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:13:46pm

By the way, those lunatics at the Huffington Post are going nuts over Hugh Shelton's newest bogus conspiracy theory.

120 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:13:48pm

re: #106 pharmmajor

Well that just proves she's out of touch with the American people. Everyone knows you only put ketchup on a burger, along with some sliced red onion and tomato and some good sharp cheddar.

/Bitch! now how would you like it if someone wanted to put pineapple on your burger? huh? huh? Yeah like that, now go live with yourself.

121 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:13:58pm

re: #115 SanFranciscoZionist

It's still not a verb.

I just have an issue with the Special Language of Islam, as used by non-Muslims on the internet.

The nuts in these woods all know 'dhimmi' and 'jizya', and 'Dar al-Harb'. Never seen 'zakat' used in casual conversation, though.

Taqiyah
Taqiyah
Taqiyah
Taqiyah
Taqiyah
Taqiyah
Taqiyah
Taqiyah
/

122 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:14:07pm

re: #107 Gus 802

Oh yeah. I forgot about that story. The "sneaking out for burgers" from the White House.

This is yet another case where you would expect they would applaud such an appetite yet all we get is the typical groans and moans from the ever complaining wingers.

They just don't like Michelle. I don't like Michelle very much either, and yet, I do not mind if she wants to eat a hamburger or go to Spain. This, I think, may be the key distinction between me and a winger.

123 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:14:35pm

Good frog news: Neighbors as far a 4 houses away are reporting frog sightings.

124 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:14:54pm

re: #97 Max D. Reinhardt

He also accused me of dhimmitude and of excusing Islamist suicide bombers. Fuck him.

He's in a better place now.

good riddance.

125 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:14:58pm

re: #123 Killgore Trout

Good frog news: Neighbors as far a 4 houses away are reporting frog sightings.

The invasion is going well!
:)

126 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:15:01pm

re: #115 SanFranciscoZionist

It's still not a verb.

I just have an issue with the Special Language of Islam, as used by non-Muslims on the internet.

The nuts in these woods all know 'dhimmi' and 'jizya', and 'Dar al-Harb'. Never seen 'zakat' used in casual conversation, though.

fine I will take the commission for my self...

127 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:15:21pm

Karl Rove's anonymously funded organizations are spamming the hell out of Google Adsense with attack ads.

I'm wrestling with the question of whether to block them because they suck so mightily, or to keep taking their money because it helps LGF, and leaning toward the latter. I doubt anyone who reads LGF is going to be tricked by their disinformation.

128 pharmmajor  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:15:23pm

re: #123 Killgore Trout

Good frog news: Neighbors as far a 4 houses away are reporting frog sightings.

Are they gold-smuggling frogs?

129 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:15:37pm

re: #126 brookly red

fine I will take the commission for my self...

Enjoy!

130 Max  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:15:39pm

re: #115 SanFranciscoZionist

It's still not a verb.

I just have an issue with the Special Language of Islam, as used by non-Muslims on the internet.

The nuts in these woods all know 'dhimmi' and 'jizya', and 'Dar al-Harb'. Never seen 'zakat' used in casual conversation, though.

PIMF.

*He accused me of being a dhimmi.

131 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:16:01pm

re: #116 b_sharp

That's not fair, you have too much. I want some.

Where's the Karma redistribution when you need it.

now that was funny!

132 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:16:05pm

re: #105 brookly red

it is now... lets register it with Websters and split the commission?

No, it's basically a hate word I learned. I wish I hadn't.

133 pharmmajor  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:16:07pm

re: #127 Charles

Karl Rove's anonymously funded organizations are spamming the hell out of Google Adsense with attack ads.

I'm wrestling with the question of whether to block them because they suck so mightily, or to keep taking their money because it helps LGF, and leaning toward the latter. I doubt anyone who reads LGF is going to be tricked by their disinformation.

Take the money. Better it goes to you than to another retarded attack ad. Besides, no one intelligent reads their bullshit.

134 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:16:26pm

re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist

They just don't like Michelle. I don't like Michelle very much either, and yet, I do not mind if she wants to eat a hamburger or go to Spain. This, I think, may be the key distinction between me and a winger.

Crazy stuff. Here's a comment from Fox News:

speedracer62 1 hour ago
No surprise here. Kinda like those in power in Communist, Marxist countries. They tell you how it will be and then do what they want. These are the same people who will take everything from you and give it to someone else but God forbid they take from themselves or elitist butties!! (intentional misspelling).

135 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:17:06pm

re: #111 Max D. Reinhardt

Sharp cheddar? Traitor! We use American cheese, and only if it's from a spray can.

aka agent orange...

136 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:17:21pm

re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist

They just don't like Michelle. I don't like Michelle very much either, and yet, I do not mind if she wants to eat a hamburger or go to Spain. This, I think, may be the key distinction between me and a winger.

Breaking News: Michelle Obama gets her hair done. News at 11.

137 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:17:52pm

re: #134 Gus 802

Crazy stuff. Here's a comment from Fox News:

LOLWHUT.

Good grief.
I eat healthy.
Sometimes, I eat something awesomely good but terrible for me.
Moderation, peeps!
Sheesh.

138 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:18:14pm

re: #134 Gus 802

Crazy stuff. Here's a comment from Fox News:

Laura Bush pushed reading for eight years...she and her pals said it was GOOD for children to read. But I bet the Bush's had a TV that whole time! What hypocrites!

//

139 Capitalist Tool  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:18:27pm

re: #111 Max D. Reinhardt

Sharp cheddar? Traitor! We use American cheese, and only if it's from a spray can.

now what, might I ask, is wrong with Velveeta?

140 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:19:12pm

re: #138 SanFranciscoZionist

Laura Bush pushed reading for eight years...she and her pals said it was GOOD for children to read. But I bet the Bush's had a TV that whole time! What hypocrites!

//

Bushes. I apologize. I've been teaching contractions and possessive apostrophes all day, and have apparently blow out my own ability to use them.

141 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:19:43pm

re: #137 Varek Raith

i eat more bad for me than good for me and I am a strict vegetarian. so...neener....

I made sausage (veggie protien fake sausage) gravy with biscuits last Sunday night. I ate a whole lot.

I am fairly certain it is very, very bad for me.

142 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:20:48pm

re: #139 Capitalist Tool

It is terrible?

143 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:21:05pm

re: #132 Stanley Sea

No, it's basically a hate word I learned. I wish I hadn't.

well regardless a hate word is a word. So it may be a new word but it is now a word, we can't put it back in the word bottle... yup it now counts in Scrabble. Yup, the birth of a word, dig it.

144 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:21:23pm

re: #139 Capitalist Tool

now what, might I ask, is wrong with Velveeta?

IT'Z FOREN SOUNDIN!
/

145 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:21:37pm

re: #140 SanFranciscoZionist

Feelin' your pain, SFZ...

146 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:21:49pm

re: #141 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

i eat more bad for me than good for me and I am a strict vegetarian. so...neener...

I made sausage (veggie protien fake sausage) gravy with biscuits last Sunday night. I ate a whole lot.

I am fairly certain it is very, very bad for me.

You just have to watch the carbs. And a bit of exercise will take care of that. I had terrible bouts of anemia when I was a veggie. I tried for years, but I really couldn't make it work.

147 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:21:58pm

re: #138 SanFranciscoZionist

Laura Bush pushed reading for eight years...she and her pals said it was GOOD for children to read. But I bet the Bush's had a TV that whole time! What hypocrites!

//

Hey, it get even better. Most of them are anti-drug and/or law and order types. Well, at least they think they are. So, they have one very anti-drug radio personality who's always talking against drugs and it turned out that he was an Oxycontin junkie. When they found out. They forgave him and either act like it ever happened or get "insulted" whenever anyone brings it up. I'm sure you know his name, Rush Limbaugh.

148 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:21:59pm

re: #136 marjoriemoon

Breaking News: Michelle Obama gets her hair done. News at 11.

/oh please that's not her real hair ;)

149 Max  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:22:31pm

re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist

They just don't like Michelle. I don't like Michelle very much either, and yet, I do not mind if she wants to eat a hamburger or go to Spain. This, I think, may be the key distinction between me and a winger.

Bring up Reagan's numerous vacations to Hawaii and his California ranch or Nancy Reagan's expensive new china that she had to have while the country was in a recession, you'll be sure to see some wingnut heads explode.

The opposition always has and always will point out the extravagance of the government when there's a recession. This is nothing new and it will never die.

150 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:22:33pm

re: #141 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

i eat more bad for me than good for me and I am a strict vegetarian. so...neener...

I made sausage (veggie protien fake sausage) gravy with biscuits last Sunday night. I ate a whole lot.

I am fairly certain it is very, very bad for me.

I eat really healthy but it's not a health related decision. It's just the food I like.

151 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:22:42pm

Typos. ;)

152 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:22:53pm

re: #148 brookly red

/oh please that's not her real hair ;)

Only her hairdresser knows for sure!

153 pharmmajor  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:23:00pm

re: #144 Varek Raith

IT'Z FOREN SOUNDIN!
/

Really, my problem with Velveeta is that they make it in a chemistry lab.

154 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:23:12pm

re: #147 Gus 802

Hey, it get even better. Most of them are anti-drug and/or law and order types. Well, at least they think they are. So, they have one very anti-drug radio personality who's always talking against drugs and it turned out that he was an Oxycontin junkie. When they found out. They forgave him and either act like it ever happened or get "insulted" whenever anyone brings it up. I'm sure you know his name, Rush Limbaugh.

I remember that. I also remember people being accused of being 'heartless' for not feeling for poor, addicted Rush.

155 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:23:16pm

re: #150 Killgore Trout

I eat really healthy but it's not a health related decision. It's just the food I like.

Asparagus.
I eat that all the time.
Damn good stuff.

156 pharmmajor  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:23:22pm

re: #148 brookly red

/oh please that's not her real hair ;)

You know, I actually think Michelle Obama would look good if she was bald.

... don't judge me!

157 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:23:26pm

re: #148 brookly red

/oh please that's not her real hair ;)

OUTRAGE! The first lady has a weave!!

158 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:23:57pm

re: #141 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

i eat more bad for me than good for me and I am a strict vegetarian. so...neener...

I made sausage (veggie protien fake sausage) gravy with biscuits last Sunday night. I ate a whole lot.

I am fairly certain it is very, very bad for me.

veggie sausage & gravy? you have sinned in you heart & in your arteries...

159 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:24:34pm

re: #158 brookly red

veggie sausage & gravy? you have sinned in you heart & in your arteries...

(veggie protein fake sausage)

;)

160 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:24:34pm

re: #157 SanFranciscoZionist

OUTRAGE! The first lady has a weave!!

Double whammy outrage! She get her hair STRAIGHTENED!!11ty

//

161 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:24:34pm

re: #153 pharmmajor

Really, my problem with Velveeta is that they make it in a chemistry lab.

Well, you can't have that stuff in a KITCHEN. They handle food in kitchens.

162 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:24:55pm

re: #155 Varek Raith

Asparagus.
I eat that all the time.
Damn good stuff.

Very healthy. Unless you eat it with hollandaise sauce.

163 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:24:58pm

re: #146 marjoriemoon

I never understood the anemia thing from veggies I keep hearing about. I've never had a single health problem from it.

164 darthstar  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:25:07pm

Yankees leave two on again...fuckin' Texas.

165 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:25:13pm

re: #150 Killgore Trout

Lucky bastard.

166 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:25:13pm

COLLARD GREENS tonight! Yeah, Florida memories.

167 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:27:03pm

re: #163 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I never understood the anemia thing from veggies I keep hearing about. I've never had a single health problem from it.

I remember when I was a little girl there was still this whole thing about how you had to be 'careful' about being a vegetarian, because you wouldn't get enough iron, or protein, or whatever. No one even thinks about that today, although pure vegans need supplements.

I think that when more people ate a 1950s-cookbook-style 'American' diet, it was a lot harder.

168 pharmmajor  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:27:03pm

re: #161 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, you can't have that stuff in a KITCHEN. They handle food in kitchens.

Just chalk it up to my increasing obsession of finding foods made mostly or completely with natural ingredients. Sure, they cost a little more, but they taste better and you're not getting weird funk put into your body.

169 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:27:04pm

re: #156 pharmmajor

You know, I actually think Michelle Obama would look good if she was bald.

... don't judge me!

she might just, but I would suggest a Grace Jones flat-top... hey it's just my taste.

170 SteelGHAZI  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:27:20pm

Michelle Obama EXISTS!!1!!11 News at 11.

171 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:27:26pm

re: #163 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I never understood the anemia thing from veggies I keep hearing about. I've never had a single health problem from it.

Lack of protein or rather not being able to assimilate vegetable protein. I will say, though, I was a migraine sufferer and I never had a migraine the 5 years I was a veggie. They came back after I started eating meat again. Actually, I don't eat much anyway.

172 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:28:04pm

re: #171 marjoriemoon

Lack of protein or rather not being able to assimilate vegetable protein. I will say, though, I was a migraine sufferer and I never had a migraine the 5 years I was a veggie. They came back after I started eating meat again. Actually, I don't eat much anyway.

Migraines are awesome, no?
/

173 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:28:25pm

re: #148 brookly red

/oh please that's not her real hair ;)

Real hair, but not her real style. I hope she and the Prez go full-frontal Mau Mau after the 2012 election, and she shows at the inauguration in a 3-foot Angela Davis 'fro.

174 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:29:59pm

re: #173 Decatur Deb

Real hair, but not her real style. I hope she and the Prez go full-frontal Mau Mau after the 2012 election, and she shows at the inauguration in a 3-foot Angela Davis 'fro.

Hah! I'd love it.

I do worry that if Obama wins a second term, the girls won't be able to, say, braid their hair as they get older. The racial politics of a teenage Malia's hair in an unacceptably non-white style would be ugly. Eh, maybe things have changed.

175 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:30:07pm

re: #157 SanFranciscoZionist

OUTRAGE! The first lady has a weave!!

/well it was harvested from political prisoners in Haiti!

actually that sounds pretty good... do you think Alex Jones would give me 50 bucks for it?

176 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:30:14pm

re: #173 Decatur Deb

Real hair, but not her real style. I hope she and the Prez go full-frontal Mau Mau after the 2012 election, and she shows at the inauguration in a 3-foot Angela Davis 'fro.

LOFUCKINGL

177 pharmmajor  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:30:25pm

re: #173 Decatur Deb

Real hair, but not her real style. I hope she and the Prez go full-frontal Mau Mau after the 2012 election, and she shows at the inauguration in a 3-foot Angela Davis 'fro.

Nah nah nah, this is the look she needs to take:
[Link: balderazzi.com...]

178 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:31:12pm

re: #167 SanFranciscoZionist

I remember when I was a little girl there was still this whole thing about how you had to be 'careful' about being a vegetarian, because you wouldn't get enough iron, or protein, or whatever. No one even thinks about that today, although pure vegans need supplements.

I think that when more people ate a 1950s-cookbook-style 'American' diet, it was a lot harder.

At one point, I broke out in an awful rash. I went to a dermatologist who gave me topical cream, but it kept coming back. I was eating a lot of dairy so I stopped and the rash nearly vanished overnight. So then I was a vegan. Now that was really hard. After a few months, I started eating dairy little by little and was never bothered with the rash again.

179 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:31:33pm

re: #171 marjoriemoon

I think girls have a harder time because of menses.

"Never trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn't die."

Can't remember where I heard that...

180 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:31:48pm

re: #175 brookly red

/well it was harvested from political prisoners in Haiti!

actually that sounds pretty good... do you think Alex Jones would give me 50 bucks for it?

You seem to be looking for quick ways to pick up a few buck this evening. Sure, give it a try. Just use a disposable cell. You don't want Alex Jones to have your real number.

181 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:32:11pm

re: #173 Decatur Deb

Real hair, but not her real style. I hope she and the Prez go full-frontal Mau Mau after the 2012 election, and she shows at the inauguration in a 3-foot Angela Davis 'fro.

This is one hell of an afro...
Image: afro_haytruck.JPG
/

182 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:33:31pm

re: #180 SanFranciscoZionist

You seem to be looking for quick ways to pick up a few buck this evening. Sure, give it a try. Just use a disposable cell. You don't want Alex Jones to have your real number.

Good point! I never would have thought of that...

183 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:34:25pm

re: #177 pharmmajor

Nah nah nah, this is the look she needs to take:
[Link: balderazzi.com...]

That's kind of Nefertiti:

[Link: artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com...]

184 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:34:36pm

re: #179 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think girls have a harder time because of menses.

"Never trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn't die."

Can't remember where I heard that...

Me neither, but you could drop it lol

But you may be on to something there, skippy.

I had a g/f who was in an ashram. She told me she would sneak out at midnight and go have a sirloin steak at the Lums across the street. That held her a few days.

185 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:34:47pm

re: #173 Decatur Deb

Real hair, but not her real style. I hope she and the Prez go full-frontal Mau Mau after the 2012 election, and she shows at the inauguration in a 3-foot Angela Davis 'fro.

I'll bring the Wah-Wah pedal for the Hail to the Chief accompaniment.

186 darthstar  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:35:19pm
187 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:36:24pm

re: #181 Varek Raith

This is one hell of an afro...
Image: afro_haytruck.JPG
/

That's not 'fro, that's 'koryo.

188 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:36:34pm

re: #185 Gus 802

I'll bring the Wah-Wah pedal for the Hail to the Chief accompaniment.

OT: I am from NY so I gotta give props to Wha-Wah (markets) who knew?

189 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:36:45pm

Wok-ah-chicka, wok-ah-chicka, wok-ah-chicka, wow, ba-wow, ba-wack-a-chicka.

190 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:36:54pm

In the first 30 seconds of the video we hear that Palin has focused her energy on supporting "true American patriots in the fight to take back America."

Such a statement is so generic and vague that it's meaningless. Except as code. Any guesses as to what the code signifies?

191 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:37:17pm

re: #189 Gus 802

Wok-ah-chicka, wok-ah-chicka, wok-ah-chicka, wow, ba-wow, ba-wack-a-chicka.

Medic!

192 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:38:57pm

re: #190 palomino

In the first 30 seconds of the video we hear that Palin has focused her energy on supporting "true American patriots in the fight to take back America."

Such a statement is so generic and vague that it's meaningless. Except as code. Any guesses as to what the code signifies?

I think it means supporting true American patriots in the fight to take back America, but I could be wrong.

193 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:39:03pm

re: #107 Gus 802

For such lovers of red meat, and the cattle industry, they sure won't miss an opportunity to skewer Michelle for eating a freakin' hamburger.

Grass-fed and organic beef, and buffalo, is much healthier than most of the meat you buy in supermarkets. Theoretically, you could eat organic or grass-fed beef, and not be eating as un-healthy as it would appear. Even a drive-through at McDonald's once in awhile isn't going to kill ya.

194 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:39:31pm

re: #189 Gus 802

Wok-ah-chicka, wok-ah-chicka, wok-ah-chicka, wow, ba-wow, ba-wack-a-chicka.

195 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:39:59pm

re: #190 palomino

In the first 30 seconds of the video we hear that Palin has focused her energy on supporting "true American patriots in the fight to take back America."

Such a statement is so generic and vague that it's meaningless. Except as code. Any guesses as to what the code signifies?

True= Us, not Them
American=Got's us a nirf certificate
Patriots=TP
Fight=Keep that 2nd amendment handy
Take Back= All the way

196 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:40:29pm

re: #194 Varek Raith

[Video]

Chocka-wicka-wow-wow. Bwow.

//

197 Renaissance_Man  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:41:02pm

re: #163 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I never understood the anemia thing from veggies I keep hearing about. I've never had a single health problem from it.

It's because the iron in most vegetables is not well absorbed by us. So people who say spinach is a good source of iron are in fact wrong - it has lots, but we don't absorb it well unless it is eaten in certain combinations (orange juice and coffee, from memory, or maybe orange juice and bacon). You never got anaemic because you are a man, and a fat bastard, if I may be so bold. Women get anaemic because they bleed and notice it when they aren't getting the iron.

198 darthstar  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:41:06pm

Okay...time to get your geek on...this is really cool.

[Link: www.wimp.com...]

199 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:41:08pm

re: #190 palomino

In the first 30 seconds of the video we hear that Palin has focused her energy on supporting "true American patriots in the fight to take back America."

Such a statement is so generic and vague that it's meaningless. Except as code. Any guesses as to what the code signifies?

Tea Party candidates. Any other questions?

200 pharmmajor  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:41:45pm

re: #190 palomino

In the first 30 seconds of the video we hear that Palin has focused her energy on supporting "true American patriots in the fight to take back America."

Such a statement is so generic and vague that it's meaningless. Except as code. Any guesses as to what the code signifies?

How about this for a statement: Take power away from these right-wing retards and their counterparts on the left so they stop polarizing our country.

201 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:42:54pm

re: #198 darthstar

Okay...time to get your geek on...this is really cool.

[Link: www.wimp.com...]

Nice.

202 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:42:56pm

re: #198 darthstar

Very cool.

203 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:43:57pm

re: #198 darthstar

Okay...time to get your geek on...this is really cool.

[Link: www.wimp.com...]

Such coolishness.

204 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:44:30pm

re: #192 brookly red

I think it means supporting true American patriots in the fight to take back America, but I could be wrong.

So vague you might as well say, "I support good people and good things." Come on, use your imagination. There are connotative meanings to things.

205 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:44:57pm

re: #193 theheat

For such lovers of red meat, and the cattle industry, they sure won't miss an opportunity to skewer Michelle for eating a freakin' hamburger.

Grass-fed and organic beef, and buffalo, is much healthier than most of the meat you buy in supermarkets. Theoretically, you could eat organic or grass-fed beef, and not be eating as un-healthy as it would appear. Even a drive-through at McDonald's once in awhile isn't going to kill ya.

Hey you went to McDonalds and 30 years later you died. The connection is undeniable... now if I only had a multi - million dollar grant to study it...

206 MinisterO  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:45:23pm

re: #114 Ojoe

It has always been there if you ask me; I don't think anything is about to collapse.

There is a difference from historical shit-storms, namely that this country passed its apex some time ago and the dimwitted citizenry is starting to notice the decline. Hence the restore America talk.

Obviously we have displeased our god and must immediately renounce our evil ways. We don't know exactly where we went wrong. Was it letting gays out of the closet? Allowing muslims to build mosques? Maybe it was the abortions. We don't know. Come to think of it, everything was fine until we put a black man in the White House. Maybe he's the antichrist.

How do we put this behind us?

207 SteelGHAZI  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:45:32pm

re: #204 palomino

They're fighting to take America back.

To the 18th century.

208 darthstar  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:45:48pm

re: #203 b_sharp

Such coolishness.

Skip ahead a couple of videos and watch a robot solve a rubik's cube.

209 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:45:53pm

re: #193 theheat

For such lovers of red meat, and the cattle industry, they sure won't miss an opportunity to skewer Michelle for eating a freakin' hamburger.

Grass-fed and organic beef, and buffalo, is much healthier than most of the meat you buy in supermarkets. Theoretically, you could eat organic or grass-fed beef, and not be eating as un-healthy as it would appear. Even a drive-through at McDonald's once in awhile isn't going to kill ya.

Ooo we got Greenwise beef tonight. Organic beef, 20% fat, super tasty and I made my gringa version of picadillo over wild rice.

210 pharmmajor  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:45:59pm

re: #206 MinisterO

How do we put this behind us?

Vote the Democrats and Republicans out of office?

211 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:46:53pm

re: #195 Decatur Deb

True= Us, not Them
American=Got's us a nirf certificate
Patriots=TP
Fight=Keep that 2nd amendment handy
Take Back= All the way

Things really haven't changed much in two years as far as Palin's rhetoric. Her first stump speech after being chosen veep was the infamous "Barack Obama doesn't love America the way we do."

If you can't pick up on the code there, you're brain dead.

212 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:47:01pm

re: #204 palomino

So vague you might as well say, "I support good people and good things." Come on, use your imagination. There are connotative meanings to things.

there are the blind & there are those who choose not to see... what can I say?

213 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:47:52pm

re: #207 SteelPH

They're fighting to take America back.

To the 18th century.

Really, sort of an imaginary place that combines all the worst qualities of the 1850s and the 1950s.

214 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:48:34pm

re: #208 darthstar

Skip ahead a couple of videos and watch a robot solve a rubik's cube.

I know what you're doing. You're trying to get my inner geek addicted, aren't you?

215 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:48:42pm

re: #200 pharmmajor

How about this for a statement: Take power away from these right-wing retards and their counterparts on the left so they stop polarizing our country.

Would be nice. But you'll only hear such things from people after they've left their party. Problem with Palin is that she's doubling down on the right wing retards.

216 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:49:06pm

re: #211 palomino

Things really haven't changed much in two years as far as Palin's rhetoric. Her first stump speech after being chosen veep was the infamous "Barack Obama doesn't love America the way we do."

If you can't pick up on the code there, you're brain dead.

She's quite clear about what she means.

217 pharmmajor  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:49:09pm

re: #213 SanFranciscoZionist

Really, sort of an imaginary place that combines all the worst qualities of the 1850s and the 1950s.

People who continue to look to the past have no future (hopefully).

218 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:49:45pm

re: #209 marjoriemoon

I've eaten grass-fed, organic, and buffalo, back when I ate meat, and it's all super yummy. Plus, you can get more of a feelgood feeling knowing you're supporting more hands-on farming. Better environmentally, and generally better animal treatment overall.

BTW, what you're eating sounds good. I'm starving.

219 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:50:30pm

re: #212 brookly red

there are the blind & there are those who choose not to see... what can I say?

something that's not a cliche?

220 Bear  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:50:58pm

Many years ago when at my first real job money was not too plentiful so when there was a sale of "cheep" beef I tried the grass fed beef. What a shock to find that it was so much better than the more expensive beef normally sold in the store.

221 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:51:06pm

Oh noz teh miner had teh fist fights!

Won't link.

222 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:51:49pm

re: #221 Gus 802

Oh noz teh miner had teh fist fights!

Won't link.

Huh

223 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:52:02pm

re: #217 pharmmajor

People who continue to look to the past have no future (hopefully).

Ahhh grasshopper, but it is written that those that do not learn from historyare doomed to repeat it...

224 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:52:11pm

re: #127 Charles

Karl Rove's anonymously funded organizations are spamming the hell out of Google Adsense with attack ads.

I'm wrestling with the question of whether to block them because they suck so mightily, or to keep taking their money because it helps LGF, and leaning toward the latter. I doubt anyone who reads LGF is going to be tricked by their disinformation.

How are they wrong? I haven't seen a lot of disinformation out of Rove, but I've seen a good bit out of ThinkProgress lately trying to smear the US Chamber of Commerce.

225 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:52:51pm

re: #219 palomino

something that's not a cliche?

if it ain't broke don't fix it.

226 pharmmajor  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:53:21pm

re: #223 brookly red

Ahhh grasshopper, but it is written that those that do not learn from historyare doomed to repeat it...

You dare challenge me to a battle of wise-sounding cliches?

227 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:53:34pm

re: #224 Dark_Falcon

How are they wrong? I haven't seen a lot of disinformation out of Rove, but I've seen a good bit out of ThinkProgress lately trying to smear the US Chamber of Commerce.

You haven't seen disinformation from Rove? Have you paid any attention to his career?

228 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:53:50pm

re: #222 Varek Raith

Huh

Oh the Chilean miners has a couple of fist fights -- allegedly. You know how these things always go. Gets really weird over time because everyone gets this story book idea about things. One guy kept a diary so he'll probably make the biggest windfall for movie or book rights. Same old stuff from the humans.

229 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:53:51pm

re: #225 brookly red

if it ain't broke don't fix it.

stupid is as stupid does

230 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:54:03pm

re: #217 pharmmajor

People who continue to look to the past have no future (hopefully).

People who worship a distorted vision of the past fear the future.

231 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:54:08pm

re: #220 Bear

It's way lean, so sometimes you might need a blip of olive oil. But it has so much more flavor. It even smells different when it's cooking.

232 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:54:34pm

re: #224 Dark_Falcon

How are they wrong? I haven't seen a lot of disinformation out of Rove, but I've seen a good bit out of ThinkProgress lately trying to smear the US Chamber of Commerce.

Analysis: Little Truth In Many Groups' Campaign Ads.

Dishonesty on both sides, but vastly more on the right.

233 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:55:36pm

re: #226 pharmmajor

You dare challenge me to a battle of wise-sounding cliches?

please, I am sure you have a black belt in parroting talking points... I yield

234 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:55:37pm

re: #209 marjoriemoon

Ooo we got Greenwise beef tonight. Organic beef, 20% fat, super tasty and I made my gringa version of picadillo over wild rice.

The supermarket stuff is all I can afford. Actually, most of the time I just heat something up. I'm not much of a cook and I don't enjoy spending time cooking after work.

235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:55:46pm

re: #222 Varek Raith

Second

236 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:56:27pm

re: #218 theheat

I've eaten grass-fed, organic, and buffalo, back when I ate meat, and it's all super yummy. Plus, you can get more of a feelgood feeling knowing you're supporting more hands-on farming. Better environmentally, and generally better animal treatment overall.

BTW, what you're eating sounds good. I'm starving.

Yaaaa. I didn't have the raisins or olives so that pretty much kills the whole essence of the dish. Hence "gringa" version. It doesn't look all that appetizing, but it's good.

237 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:56:38pm

re: #230 b_sharp

People who worship a distorted vision of the past fear the future.

I am starting to really respect you b...

238 MinisterO  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:56:42pm

re: #210 pharmmajor

Vote the Democrats and Republicans out of office?

It's too late for that to change anything. People aren't going to accept the lower standard of living toward which our leadership has for decades been steering. They're going to lay blame where it's convenient. That'll be your guy if he's elected.

239 Bear  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:57:28pm

re: #231 theheat

That was back in the 1950 era and I do not think I knew about doing anything but put the meat in a skillet and turn on the hear. Olive Oil, was that the cartoon character?

240 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:57:39pm

re: #228 Gus 802

Honestly, I was amazed there weren't some injuries from fights.

That was a high-stress long-term environment.

241 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:58:01pm

re: #220 Bear

Many years ago when at my first real job money was not too plentiful so when there was a sale of "cheep" beef I tried the grass fed beef. What a shock to find that it was so much better than the more expensive beef normally sold in the store.

This stuff is actually more expensive than the other. Most organic stuff is that I find.

242 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:58:12pm

re: #237 brookly red

I am starting to really respect you b...

I hear they have pills for that.

243 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:58:36pm

re: #127 Charles

Karl Rove's anonymously funded organizations are spamming the hell out of Google Adsense with attack ads.

I'm wrestling with the question of whether to block them because they suck so mightily, or to keep taking their money because it helps LGF, and leaning toward the latter. I doubt anyone who reads LGF is going to be tricked by their disinformation.

My two cents = Take the money. Folks who fall for disinformation tend not to hang around here for too long...

244 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:58:45pm

re: #218 theheat

I've eaten grass-fed, organic, and buffalo, back when I ate meat, and it's all super yummy. Plus, you can get more of a feelgood feeling knowing you're supporting more hands-on farming. Better environmentally, and generally better animal treatment overall.

BTW, what you're eating sounds good. I'm starving.

Oh we get the Maverick beef sometimes which I believe is buffalo.

245 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:59:07pm

re: #224 Dark_Falcon

How are they wrong? I haven't seen a lot of disinformation out of Rove, but I've seen a good bit out of ThinkProgress lately trying to smear the US Chamber of Commerce.

And it's not a smear to ask, "Where did your funding come from?"

A smear is more along the lines of "Obama is getting his contributions from outside sources, so he's being funded by al-Qaeda and loves terrorists."

246 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:59:08pm

re: #228 Gus 802

Oh the Chilean miners has a couple of fist fights -- allegedly. You know how these things always go. Gets really weird over time because everyone gets this story book idea about things. One guy kept a diary so he'll probably make the biggest windfall for movie or book rights. Same old stuff from the humans.

Ah.
Well, I'd go a little nuts too.
Being trapped and all.

247 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:59:16pm

re: #240 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Honestly, I was amazed there weren't some injuries from fights.

That was a high-stress long-term environment.

Yep. I think it's normal to a certain extent.

248 brookly red  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 6:59:45pm

re: #242 b_sharp

I hear they have pills for that.

yes but my clients make them... a conflict you see.

249 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:00:36pm

re: #217 pharmmajor

People who continue to look to the past have no future (hopefully).

They do in Congress, at least for the next two years.

250 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:01:17pm

re: #244 marjoriemoon

I'm not sure if Maverick beef is buffalo. Whenever I've seen it, it's clearly marked buffalo. I suppose labeling requirements vary from place to place.

There are some buffalo ranches in this state, and a couple of the major supermarket chains carry it.

Buffalo are big, fast, nasty, and smell terrible.

251 Bear  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:01:48pm

re: #241 marjoriemoon

At that time, 1952-53 the grass feed was the least expensive.

252 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:02:45pm

re: #230 b_sharp

People who worship a distorted vision of the past fear the future.

Well said.

There's history and then there's mythology. History is messy and often ambiguous. Mythology is much easier.

253 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:04:00pm

re: #248 brookly red

yes but my clients make them... a conflict you see.

Well, I guess you're screwed.;P

254 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:04:58pm

re: #245 palomino

And it's not a smear to ask, "Where did your funding come from?"

A smear is more along the lines of "Obama is getting his contributions from outside sources, so he's being funded by al-Qaeda and loves terrorists."

If that had been all that ThinkProgress had asked, then it would not have been a smear. But when the Chamber of Commerce answered that it had safeguards to prevent foreign money from being used in political campaigns, TP didn't drop the issue. Instead, without any clear evidence, they accused the CoC of breaking the law and went on to run an "Outrageous Outrage!!1" story about how the Chamber of Commerce "threatens our democracy!1". It was a hatchet job, and designed to be one from the start.

255 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:05:21pm

re: #251 Bear

At that time, 1952-53 the grass feed was the least expensive.

Ah the beef I buy is quite a bit fresher.

;)

256 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:05:33pm

The neighborhood possum is on my back porch again. Dude walks right past our glass sliding door without so much as a glance in my direction.

I think a possum might be what a Hindu comes back as if they kick a cow...God really went balls-out with the ugly stick there.

Also makes me wonder if Genesis is short and sweet in the creation story area because little details like "Adam named this creature FUBAR" detract from the overall message...

//

257 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:07:21pm

re: #250 theheat

I'm not sure if Maverick beef is buffalo. Whenever I've seen it, it's clearly marked buffalo. I suppose labeling requirements vary from place to place.

There are some buffalo ranches in this state, and a couple of the major supermarket chains carry it.

Buffalo are big, fast, nasty, and smell terrible.

I prefer the beef to the buffalo actually. Buffalo tastes a bit gamey to me.

258 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:08:20pm

re: #256 Aceofwhat?

The neighborhood possum is on my back porch again. Dude walks right past our glass sliding door without so much as a glance in my direction.

I think a possum might be what a Hindu comes back as if they kick a cow...God really went balls-out with the ugly stick there.

Also makes me wonder if Genesis is short and sweet in the creation story area because little details like "Adam named this creature FUBAR" detract from the overall message...

//

They seriously freak me out. Spiders, snakes, no problem. Bring em on. I will run from a possum.

259 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:10:08pm

re: #257 marjoriemoon

I prefer the beef to the buffalo actually. Buffalo tastes a bit gamey to me.

I thought you liked gamey. Or that only with troll?

260 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:10:18pm

re: #245 palomino

And it's not a smear to ask, "Where did your funding come from?"

The smear is ThinkProgress claiming the CoC is using foreign money to fund campaign ads without any proof.

A smear is more along the lines of "Obama is getting his contributions from outside sources, so he's being funded by al-Qaeda and loves terrorists."

I never heard that. Hamas was mentioned during the presidential campaign though.

261 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:10:40pm

re: #259 Dark_Falcon

I thought you liked gamey. Or that only with troll?

hehe Definitely for troll!

262 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:10:54pm

re: #258 marjoriemoon

They seriously freak me out. Spiders, snakes, no problem. Bring em on. I will run from a possum.

I am your polar opposum.

Cute little things!

263 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:11:48pm

re: #258 marjoriemoon

They seriously freak me out. Spiders, snakes, no problem. Bring em on. I will run from a possum.

Heh. Actually, the king of our 'hood is a really sweet, enormous light orange tomcat. Belongs to a neighbor...when that cat walks through the backyard, the possum or raccoon goes up a tree immediately. Surprised me when i saw the first interaction like that...for some reason, we think of raccoons, possums, etc. as 'wild' animals and forget how much a big house cat can throw their proverbial weight around the neighborhood...

264 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:12:05pm

re: #256 Aceofwhat?

Do not like possums. They're filthy, kill poultry, and spread a disease that's fatal to horses. They last about five seconds when I see one. I'm pretty much an animal lover, but not possums. Zombies and possums don't stand a chance round the homestead.

265 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:12:30pm

Rolls eyes.

Tancredo pulled to within four points of the Democrat according to a survey of 750 likely voters in Colorado conducted by Rasmussen Reports on Thursday.

According to the telephone survey, Tancredo got 38 percent support to Hickenlooper's 42 percent.

Meanwhile, support for Republican Dan Maes continues to dwindle and now stands at 12 percent.

266 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:13:32pm

re: #264 theheat

Do not like possums. They're filthy, kill poultry, and spread a disease that's fatal to horses. They last about five seconds when I see one. I'm pretty much an animal lover, but not possums. Zombies and possums don't stand a chance round the homestead.

IMHO one can consider themselves an animal lover and still retain a very short list of intolerances...especially if zombies are included. That's just smart thinking...

267 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:14:09pm

re: #265 Gus 802

Rolls eyes.

I am very very very curious if the polls are based on land lines only. I think they are forgetting the cell phone only homes.

268 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:14:19pm

re: #264 theheat

Do not like possums. They're filthy, kill poultry, and spread a disease that's fatal to horses. They last about five seconds when I see one. I'm pretty much an animal lover, but not possums. Zombies and possums don't stand a chance round the homestead.

Zombie hater.

269 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:14:30pm

re: #267 Stanley Sea

I am very very very curious if the polls are based on land lines only. I think they are forgetting the cell phone only homes.

i.e. the modern homes

270 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:15:42pm

re: #267 Stanley Sea

I am very very very curious if the polls are based on land lines only. I think they are forgetting the cell phone only homes.

Check Nate silver from late yesterday or today. Ras + landline = 7pts.

271 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:15:56pm

re: #262 Stanley Sea

I am your polar opposum.

Cute little things!

A little baby twice came to eat the outside cat food. I'll admit the babies are "cuter" the adults, but I was still not enamored.

You come visit me and chase away my possums :)

272 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:17:30pm

re: #271 marjoriemoon

A little baby twice came to eat the outside cat food. I'll admit the babies are "cuter" the adults, but I was still not enamored.

You come visit me and chase away my possums :)

Spiders are my doom. We have them everywhere. Saw a black widow a month ago all perched in my envelope drawer. wha? I was a wreck for a week.

273 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:17:41pm

re: #260 NJDhockeyfan

The smear is ThinkProgress claiming the CoC is using foreign money to fund campaign ads without any proof.

The foreign money appears to be flowing into the same bank account used to pay for the ads. How do they keep the foreign money in a sandbox if it's all in one account?

274 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:17:45pm

re: #271 marjoriemoon

A little baby twice came to eat the outside cat food. I'll admit the babies are "cuter" the adults, but I was still not enamored.

You come visit me and chase away my possums :)

Have you considered using them as a dietary source of protein?

275 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:18:56pm

re: #266 Aceofwhat?

Exactly. I love animals, except...re: #268 b_sharp

Nobody likes zombies. Especially Nazi zombies. That's the delightful part. You'll never offend anyone saying you would like to, or enjoy, killing zombies.

276 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:19:04pm

re: #267 Stanley Sea

I am very very very curious if the polls are based on land lines only. I think they are forgetting the cell phone only homes.

I don't know. It is Ras. But, he's still catching up fast. If his fellow freak, Maes, drops out he'll jump into the lead. But he's catching up regardless. Don't forget, this is still Colorado and the people of this state have voted for some weird shit before.

277 Max  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:19:13pm

E-book sales are Up 193% this year, so far.

278 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:19:54pm

re: #272 Stanley Sea

Spiders are my doom. We have them everywhere. Saw a black widow a month ago all perched in my envelope drawer. wha? I was a wreck for a week.

OMG!

You have an envelope drawer?

(Black widows are coming farther north. We saw some up here for the first time.)

279 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:19:55pm

Possums kind of remind me of Groucho Marx when they walk by.

280 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:20:04pm

re: #263 Aceofwhat?

Heh. Actually, the king of our 'hood is a really sweet, enormous light orange tomcat. Belongs to a neighbor...when that cat walks through the backyard, the possum or raccoon goes up a tree immediately. Surprised me when i saw the first interaction like that...for some reason, we think of raccoons, possums, etc. as 'wild' animals and forget how much a big house cat can throw their proverbial weight around the neighborhood...

The feral cats can be tamed, possibly. Maybe the raccoons and possums. Can't say I've ever tried!

I think I told my raccoon story before. One afternoon, I heard this thumping on the roof. It was a family of baby raccoons using the roof as a slide. They climbed up a nearby tree, got out on a branch that hung over the roof, jump to the roof and slide down unto another tree branch. Climb up again, over and over. Wish I had a video.

281 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:20:19pm

re: #276 Gus 802

I don't know. It is Ras. But, he's still catching up fast. If his fellow freak, Maes, drops out he'll jump into the lead. But he's catching up regardless. Don't forget, this is still Colorado and the people of this state have voted for some weird shit before.

The details are in the cited Pew study:

[Link: fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com...]

282 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:20:29pm

re: #272 Stanley Sea

Spiders are my doom. We have them everywhere. Saw a black widow a month ago all perched in my envelope drawer. wha? I was a wreck for a week.

Yowza. Centipedes, for me.

283 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:20:41pm

re: #277 Max D. Reinhardt

And way above 1962...

284 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:21:03pm

re: #274 b_sharp

The adult possums have killed cats. So will raccoons. Usually, it's when they are poking around, looking to steal cat food.

285 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:21:07pm

re: #263 Aceofwhat?

Heh. Actually, the king of our 'hood is a really sweet, enormous light orange tomcat. Belongs to a neighbor...when that cat walks through the backyard, the possum or raccoon goes up a tree immediately. Surprised me when i saw the first interaction like that...for some reason, we think of raccoons, possums, etc. as 'wild' animals and forget how much a big house cat can throw their proverbial weight around the neighborhood...

We have a cat like that in our neighborhood.
His name is Walker.
He doesn't belong to anybody. He sort of lives at one house for awhile, then another house for awhile - everybody knows him, everybody feeds him (he's HUGE), and he pretty much rules the roost. My male cat avoids Walker at all costs.

286 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:21:19pm

re: #278 b_sharp

OMG!

You have an envelope drawer?

(Black widows are coming farther north. We saw some up here for the first time.)

well yeah, in my office. it's pretty old school.

I live with black widows and scorpions - 2 found in my house. ewe

I don't sleep well needless to say.

287 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:21:55pm

re: #272 Stanley Sea

Spiders are my doom. We have them everywhere. Saw a black widow a month ago all perched in my envelope drawer. wha? I was a wreck for a week.

I don't think we have anything poisonous, spider-wise. Yes, that would freak me out.

I'm one of those who scoops them up and puts them outside before the cats get them.

288 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:22:16pm

re: #274 b_sharp

Have you considered using them as a dietary source of protein?

That would be a big no.

289 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:22:51pm

re: #285 reine.de.tout

We have a cat like that in our neighborhood.
His name is Walker.
He doesn't belong to anybody. He sort of lives at one house for awhile, then another house for awhile - everybody knows him, everybody feeds him (he's HUGE), and he pretty much rules the roost. My male cat avoids Walker at all costs.

ha! well, i'd rather have a cat ruling the hood instead of a raccoon or a possum...it's a much friendlier king. and since all of the above would eat our teacup chihuahua, she's never out without a human companion anyway;)

290 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:22:51pm

Evening honcos.

291 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:23:01pm

re: #254 Dark_Falcon

If that had been all that ThinkProgress had asked, then it would not have been a smear. But when the Chamber of Commerce answered that it had safeguards to prevent foreign money from being used in political campaigns, TP didn't drop the issue. Instead, without any clear evidence, they accused the CoC of breaking the law and went on to run an "Outrageous Outrage!!1" story about how the Chamber of Commerce "threatens our democracy!1". It was a hatchet job, and designed to be one from the start.

Sure, but both sides are disingenuous here. TP didn't drop the issue because the CofC refused to offer any specifics. The CofC isn't exactly rushing to tell you their sources.

Of course all this is facilitated and exacerbated by the recent SC decision which paves the way for unlimited corporate money. Even a lot of Republicans opposed that SC decision, at least before they realized it could work to their advantage in elections.

292 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:23:07pm

re: #284 theheat

The adult possums have killed cats. So will raccoons. Usually, it's when they are poking around, looking to steal cat food.

Now, we have an opossum, and a whole family of racoons, that come to get the leftover cat food in the evenings. I see the cats sitting or laying right next to 'em while they eat . . . they seem to leave each other alone.

293 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:23:35pm

re: #281 Decatur Deb

The details are in the cited Pew study:

[Link: fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com...]

Yeah but land lines suck out in the hinterlands. Cellphone use is instead high in GOP strongholds of Colorado. So in a way that kind of messes up that theory in Colorado.

294 calochortus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:24:18pm

re: #123 Killgore Trout

Good frog news: Neighbors as far a 4 houses away are reporting frog sightings.

I , for one, welcome our new amphibian overlords. Which is a good thing, because we seem to be picking up our own population of Pacific Tree Frogs. One has been singing lately which seems foolish pointless as there isn't any water around yet that they could be laying eggs in.

295 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:25:05pm

re: #292 reine.de.tout

Maybe we've been blessed with possums and raccoons with a more top of the food chain mentality. It sure doesn't play out like a Disney movie where I live, anyway.

Hence, I blast 'em.

296 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:25:40pm

re: #260 NJDhockeyfan

The smear is ThinkProgress claiming the CoC is using foreign money to fund campaign ads without any proof.

I never heard that. Hamas was mentioned during the presidential campaign though.

A lot was "mentioned" during the presidential campaign, including the smear that Obama was funded by his foreign Muslim terrorist friends.

297 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:25:56pm

re: #273 goddamnedfrank

The foreign money appears to be flowing into the same bank account used to pay for the ads. How do they keep the foreign money in a sandbox if it's all in one account?


Well shit, if the moonbat blog ThinkProgress says it appears to be true, it must be!
//

298 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:26:35pm

re: #273 goddamnedfrank

The foreign money appears to be flowing into the same bank account used to pay for the ads. How do they keep the foreign money in a sandbox if it's all in one account?

Link? And moreover, that money might well be moved from there into another account. Don't forget that the money in question is $150,000. That's not much when you consider this is a $50,000,000 ad campaign. The Chamber says they have safeguards and there's not a real reason to doubt them.

299 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:26:41pm

re: #292 reine.de.tout

Our cats and possums have reached a detente, too. I think it's because the possums can't see the cats, (or much of anything else). Occasionally they walk up to someone's feet when we're outside reading on the patio, and they get within inches before getting startled.

300 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:27:11pm

Anyway, long story short. I can live with Ken Buck becoming Senator. I don't like the idea of Tancredo being our governor at all. No sirree.

301 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:27:46pm

re: #284 theheat
re: #285 reine.de.tout

The adult possums have killed cats. So will raccoons. Usually, it's when they are poking around, looking to steal cat food.

I had to run a possum out of my very suburban apartment. Yup, in after the cat food. And the last thing I wanted was for my big bad ass tom cat to engage that possum. I made a couch cushion path to the door and got after him with a broom. 'Course had an idiot neighbor saying shoot him. Why do people say that?

302 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:29:31pm

re: #295 theheat

Maybe we've been blessed with possums and raccoons with a more top of the food chain mentality. It sure doesn't play out like a Disney movie where I live, anyway.

Hence, I blast 'em.

I think it may be that there's just plenty of food around, so they don't have to fight over it. The raccoons that come to our house are very well fed - they have a trail through the neighborhood, you can actually follow it, seeking out leftover pet food. Lots of pets in my neighborhood.

303 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:30:14pm

re: #291 palomino

Sure, but both sides are disingenuous here. TP didn't drop the issue because the CofC refused to offer any specifics. The CofC isn't exactly rushing to tell you their sources.

Of course all this is facilitated and exacerbated by the recent SC decision which paves the way for unlimited corporate money. Even a lot of Republicans opposed that SC decision, at least before they realized it could work to their advantage in elections.

The CofC is not required to give specifics. The FEC could demand them, but not a media source. Nor should they provide them to Think Progress. ThinkProgress would use any inside information they were given to the CofC's detriment. And then they'd run with an "eleventy!1" story anyway. The whole point for TP was to fire up their base, not to actually look for truth.

304 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:30:33pm

re: #301 Rightwingconspirator

Probably because they kill stuff, spread disease, and make more possums.

I don't know where these charming Disney possums are coming from, because that ain't the vibe where I live.

305 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:30:51pm

re: #271 marjoriemoon

A little baby twice came to eat the outside cat food. I'll admit the babies are "cuter" the adults, but I was still not enamored.

You come visit me and chase away my possums :)

There's a YA novel about a Mexican immigrant family in Los Angeles that I used with a class once. The mom is terrified of possums--'tlacuaches' in Mexican Spanish--and one night when her husband is away on work she freaks out and calls 911 because there are tlacuaches in the backyard.

"Ma'am?" says the 911 operator. "There are Apaches in your yard?"

"Tlacuaches! Tlacuaches! Don't you speak English? Come quickly!"

Five LAPD officers respond to the call. When shown the possum, they scoot it into a trash can and march it out of the yard. Then they ask not to be called for possum removal again.

306 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:31:04pm

re: #295 theheat

Maybe we've been blessed with possums and raccoons with a more top of the food chain mentality. It sure doesn't play out like a Disney movie where I live, anyway.

Hence, I blast 'em.

Don't just kill them...

How To Catch And Cook A Possum

307 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:31:18pm

re: #301 Rightwingconspirator

re: #285 reine.de.tout

I had to run a possum out of my very suburban apartment. Yup, in after the cat food. And the last thing I wanted was for my big bad ass tom cat to engage that possum. I made a couch cushion path to the door and got after him with a broom. 'Course had an idiot neighbor saying shoot him. Why do people say that?

Check out the opossum's teeth. People say that so you won't get bitten. They've got some really nasty teeth. But I think they'd probably rather leave than bite you, if they don't feel trapped. Me, I wouldn't have messed with it. That's what the Roi is for. 'Course, he knows more than I do about how to handle animals.

308 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:31:21pm

re: #303 Dark_Falcon

The CofC is not required to give specifics. The FEC could demand them, but not a media source. Nor should they provide them to Think Progress. ThinkProgress would use any inside information they were given to the CofC's detriment. And then they'd run with an "eleventy!1" story anyway. The whole point for TP was to fire up their base, not to actually look for truth.

Wasn't the whole start of this Fox giving $$$ to the CofC????

309 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:31:23pm

re: #294 calochortus

I , for one, welcome our new amphibian overlords. Which is a good thing, because we seem to be picking up our own population of Pacific Tree Frogs. One has been singing lately which seems foolish pointless as there isn't any water around yet that they could be laying eggs in.

They seem to wander around a bit.

310 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:31:27pm

re: #264 theheat

Do not like possums. They're filthy, kill poultry, and spread a disease that's fatal to horses. They last about five seconds when I see one. I'm pretty much an animal lover, but not possums. Zombies and possums don't stand a chance round the homestead.

Plus they look like an animal that hasn't evolved in the last 100 million years (or 6,000 if your calendar only goes back that far). Armadillos are like that too.

Growing up in TX, I used to see possums and armadillos all the time. Seemed like the dillo was just a possum with some body armor.

311 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:31:39pm

re: #297 NJDhockeyfan

Well shit, if the moonbat blog ThinkProgress says it appears to be true, it must be!
//

Frank was being polite and civil. Please show him the same courtesy he showed me.

312 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:32:18pm

re: #292 reine.de.tout

Now, we have an opossum, and a whole family of racoons, that come to get the leftover cat food in the evenings. I see the cats sitting or laying right next to 'em while they eat . . . they seem to leave each other alone.

In Golden Gate Park, early in the morning, you'll see feral cats and raccoons parked side by side, eating the cat food the little old ladies bring them.

313 sagehen  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:32:29pm

re: #85 Charles

Yay! My brother and I sold our CGC-graded copy of X-Men #1 on eBay for a very nice price.

You gave money to Meg Whitman!?!?!

314 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:32:41pm

re: #293 Gus 802

Yeah but land lines suck out in the hinterlands. Cellphone use is instead high in GOP strongholds of Colorado. So in a way that kind of messes up that theory in Colorado.

Still, silver has Hickenlooper at 96.8 on Oct 12. There are other races to be depressed about.

315 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:33:04pm

re: #297 NJDhockeyfan

Well shit, if the moonbat blog ThinkProgress says it appears to be true, it must be!
//

Says the guy who links to Fox News.

316 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:33:55pm

re: #304 theheat

Oh I get it out in the more natural surroundings. But note my very suburban apartment location.
There will be no gunfire at the pool!
Or glass containers.
What can I say I don't make the rules. lol

317 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:34:19pm

re: #314 Decatur Deb

Still, silver has Hickenlooper at 96.8 on Oct 12. There are other races to be depressed about.

I'm not worried yet. Still though... well you know what I'm going to say. Governor Tancredo? Heck not only would it suck we'd be the laughing stock of the nation.

318 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:34:40pm

re: #303 Dark_Falcon

The CofC is not required to give specifics. The FEC could demand them, but not a media source. Nor should they provide them to Think Progress. ThinkProgress would use any inside information they were given to the CofC's detriment. And then they'd run with an "eleventy!1" story anyway. The whole point for TP was to fire up their base, not to actually look for truth.

You're defending non-transparency. It's good for your party in the short run; not good for anyone in the long run.

319 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:34:44pm

re: #306 NJDhockeyfan

Poke your possum with a big sharp stick and hold it over the campfire or coal stove until it is crispy.


!

320 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:35:11pm

re: #299 jaunte

Our cats and possums have reached a detente, too. I think it's because the possums can't see the cats, (or much of anything else). Occasionally they walk up to someone's feet when we're outside reading on the patio, and they get within inches before getting startled.

Yeah, I nearly stepped on one the other night; opened my front door, and he was right there (with the cat), having dinner. Scared both of us.

RWC -
Here's why you don't wanna mess around with an opossum.

321 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:35:20pm

re: #317 Gus 802

I'm not worried yet. Still though... well you know what I'm going to say. Governor Tancredo? Heck not only would it suck we'd be the laughing stock of the nation.

Just repeat Gov Paladino, Gov Paladino...

322 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:35:33pm

re: #308 Stanley Sea

Wasn't the whole start of this Fox giving $$$ to the CofC???

I had not heard that, and I do not see its relevance.

323 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:35:53pm

re: #315 palomino

Says the guy who links to Fox News.

It's astounding to think about quickly Fox devolved into a nutty conspiracy outlet but Huffpo and Think Progress are now fairly reliable.

324 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:36:31pm

re: #319 jaunte

!

I once read a possum recipe in one of those 'hilbilly cookbook' productions where the woman writing it advised keeping a foot on your possum while you're doing kitchen prep, until it is actually butchered, because sometimes they're just playing dead and 'they'll slip away'.

325 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:36:41pm

re: #320 reine.de.tout

Yeah, I nearly stepped on one the other night; opened my front door, and he was right there (with the cat), having dinner. Scared both of us.

RWC -
Here's why you don't wanna mess around with an opossum.

fugly...

326 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:36:52pm

re: #321 Decatur Deb

Just repeat Gov Paladino, Gov Paladino...

There's no place like home. There's no place like home.

//

327 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:36:57pm

re: #323 Killgore Trout

It's astounding to think about quickly Fox devolved into a nutty conspiracy outlet but Huffpo and Think Progress are now fairly reliable.

Evolution. The kind that makes Eloi and Morlocks.

328 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:37:07pm

re: #306 NJDhockeyfan

Don't just kill them...

How To Catch And Cook A Possum

If possum stew is good enough for people in Beverly Hills, then Jeff Foxworthy should stop making "you know you're a redneck" jokes about it.

329 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:38:08pm

re: #320 reine.de.tout

Yeah, I nearly stepped on one the other night; opened my front door, and he was right there (with the cat), having dinner. Scared both of us.

RWC -
Here's why you don't wanna mess around with an opossum.

A family acquaintance--a police detective--once had to be dissuaded by his mother from shooting a raccoon in his kitchen, after he discovered that pepper spray does not slow them down.

330 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:38:30pm

Heards of possum roaming across the prairie kicking up dust with their galloping feet.

//

331 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:38:34pm

re: #324 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm having a hard time thinking of possum as good crispy food.
Last time we had heavy storms, a possum got into my garbage can, diving for food; couldn't get out and drowned when the rain kept coming for two days.
That was a hard smell to get rid of.

332 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:39:00pm

re: #315 palomino

Says the guy who links to Fox News.

Says the guy who links to HuffPo.

333 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:39:19pm

re: #320 reine.de.tout

Yeah, I nearly stepped on one the other night; opened my front door, and he was right there (with the cat), having dinner. Scared both of us.

RWC -
Here's why you don't wanna mess around with an opossum.

Whoa! Very glad my cat did not mix it up with that thing. Let alone me. Besides I prefer the Ducks. Remember those pictures? Heh we did not have pages back then...

334 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:40:07pm

Hoss! Where you taking those possum?

I'm driving them up to Yuma.

[sound of cracking whip]

335 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:40:27pm

re: #286 Stanley Sea

well yeah, in my office. it's pretty old school.

I live with black widows and scorpions - 2 found in my house. ewe

I don't sleep well needless to say.

We have a small desert in Sask, and bad lands in Alberta where scorpions and black widows have been found, but where I live, black widows are almost completely unknown. I fear that may be changing.

I used to be terrified of spiders. Lately though, it's just the bigger ones that bother me and only when they get close.

336 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:40:58pm

re: #320 reine.de.tout

And here's why you don't want them near horses. This is an older article, and not really comprehensive. Along with horror movies, I know plenty about E.P.M.. An encyclopedic knowledge, you might say. I treated a horse with the disease, which has the effect of AIDS plus MS. Not pretty, and no happy endings in more than 50% of the cases. Mine didn't have a happy ending.

Like I said, if I see them here, it's their ass.

337 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:41:08pm

re: #319 jaunte

Poke your possum with a big sharp stick and hold it over the campfire or coal stove until it is crispy.

!

Is there any other way?

338 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:41:18pm

Now, here's an interesting animal, the nutria, a large aquatic rodent, that has orange teeth.

Very destructive animals - those teeth never stop growing and they have to gnaw nearly constantly to keep them at the right length.

339 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:41:19pm

re: #318 palomino

You're defending non-transparency. It's good for your party in the short run; not good for anyone in the long run.

I'm refusing to engage in unilateral disarmament. The Democrats reacted to the Supreme Court's decision by trying to push a seriously biased bill that would have favored them. Republicans offered to negotiate but the Dems refused, thinking they could just peel someone off. Reid and Pelosi sowed the wind, now Karl Rove will ensure they reap the whirlwind. If they want transparency, let them negotiate in good faith.

340 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:41:19pm

re: #298 Dark_Falcon

Link? And moreover, that money might well be moved from there into another account. Don't forget that the money in question is $150,000. That's not much when you consider this is a $50,000,000 ad campaign. The Chamber says they have safeguards and there's not a real reason to doubt them.

According to TP it's over $100K from Bahrain alone, $200K from India, and the Russian operation won't divulge how much they've sent in. That's only three countries and zero transparency, but hey, they say they have "safeguards" and that's good enough for you. Also, the Chamber is spending $75 million in ad buys, which does sound like a lot but since it's only half the amount being burned through by Meg Whitman alone it must be a pittance.

341 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:41:44pm

re: #329 SanFranciscoZionist

A family acquaintance--a police detective--once had to be dissuaded by his mother from shooting a raccoon in his kitchen, after he discovered that pepper spray does not slow them down.

Reminds me. We have giant flying cockroaches - palmetto bugs. You can saddle up these suckers and ride around the house, I tell's ya.

Don't spray them with bug spray. It just pisses em off.

342 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:43:51pm

re: #332 NJDhockeyfan

Says the guy who links to HuffPo.

Wrong. I never have. Try again.

343 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:44:20pm

re: #338 reine.de.tout

Now, here's an interesting animal, the nutria, a large aquatic rodent, that has orange teeth.

Very destructive animals - those teeth never stop growing and they have to gnaw nearly constantly to keep them at the right length.

Intersting control method:

A man named Mike Hotard, owner of Hotard Wildlife Control, has discovered the Patterdale terrier is highly-effective at helping rid an area of nutria. He showed how one of his dogs, Sybil, gets the job done.

"He's itching to get in the hole to go find 'em," Hotard said. "They (nutria) are very destructive, but these dogs are very well-trained and they basically come out unharmed. They hold them in one place and we dig down and remove them."[Link: www.wafb.com...]

344 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:44:47pm

re: #331 jaunte

I'm having a hard time thinking of possum as good crispy food.
Last time we had heavy storms, a possum got into my garbage can, diving for food; couldn't get out and drowned when the rain kept coming for two days.
That was a hard smell to get rid of.

Oooo yes! We had one die under the house. The house is built up about 3 feet and I leave a grating open for the cats to get out of the rain. I know I shouldn't because things can crawl in there and die....

My poor husband, bless his soul, crawled under the house and just buried it there.

345 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:44:53pm

re: #340 goddamnedfrank

According to TP it's over $100K from Bahrain alone, $200K from India, and the Russian operation won't divulge how much they've sent in. That's only three countries and zero transparency, but hey, they say they have "safeguards" and that's good enough for you. Also, the Chamber is spending $75 million in ad buys, which does sound like a lot but since it's only half the amount being burned through by Meg Whitman alone it must be a pittance.

That's what ThinkProgress says, but I do not believe them. On matters like this I think they are a left-wing site with an ax to grind. They are not to be trusted.

346 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:44:58pm

re: #329 SanFranciscoZionist

A family acquaintance--a police detective--once had to be dissuaded by his mother from shooting a raccoon in his kitchen, after he discovered that pepper spray does not slow them down.

*sigh*
Well, I will admit this - we had a rat get into our house, just one, the cat jumped through the window with him.

He got away from the cat, and ran under our stove. I did NOT want the rat coming out from under the stove. I did NOT want him getting stuck under there and dying.

The Roi shot him, and got him out of the house.
I didn't really much like it. But there was simply nothing else to do.

347 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:45:02pm

re: #341 marjoriemoon

Reminds me. We have giant flying cockroaches - palmetto bugs. You can saddle up these suckers and ride around the house, I tell's ya.

Don't spray them with bug spray. It just pisses em off.

Image: OMGWTF.jpg

348 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:45:30pm

re: #322 Dark_Falcon

I had not heard that, and I do not see its relevance.

News Corp. gave $1 million to pro-GOP group (Chamber of Commerce)

Read more: [Link: www.politico.com...]

Oh big time relevance. Big time.

349 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:46:02pm

re: #343 jaunte

Intersting control method:

Interesting!
They are really destructive animals.
But their fur is gorgeous.

350 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:46:35pm

When I was a wee lad, we used to find and play with these guys all the time:

Haven't seen one in years; apparently they're considered "threatened" now, due in part to fire ants killing off harvester ant colonies, which are the lizard's primary food source.

351 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:46:51pm

re: #349 reine.de.tout

I didn't realized they tunneled for such distances; I thought they were mostly aquatic.

352 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:47:03pm

re: #345 Dark_Falcon

They are not to be trusted.

Neither are you.

353 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:47:46pm

re: #323 Killgore Trout

It's astounding to think about quickly Fox devolved into a nutty conspiracy outlet but Huffpo and Think Progress are now fairly reliable.

It has to be a story found no other place for me to link HuffPo or TP.

There's plenty out there.

354 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:49:22pm

re: #341 marjoriemoon

Reminds me. We have giant flying cockroaches - palmetto bugs. You can saddle up these suckers and ride around the house, I tell's ya.

Don't spray them with bug spray. It just pisses em off.

Image: Palmettohand.jpg

ah, Florida!

355 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:50:28pm

re: #353 Stanley Sea

It has to be a story found no other place for me to link HuffPo or TP.

There's plenty out there.

and really, for Fox/Huffpo/TP/etc., if it's a story found no other place, i start to smell something;)

356 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:50:47pm

re: #339 Dark_Falcon

I'm refusing to engage in unilateral disarmament. The Democrats reacted to the Supreme Court's decision by trying to push a seriously biased bill that would have favored them. Republicans offered to negotiate but the Dems refused, thinking they could just peel someone off. Reid and Pelosi sowed the wind, now Karl Rove will ensure they reap the whirlwind. If they want transparency, let them negotiate in good faith.

"Republicans offered to negotiate?" The entire gop strategy for the last two years has been a refusal to cooperate with Dems on anything. It's what got the tea party base of the gop so fired up.

There's no reason the Dems would think they could peel off any Republicans; they've had virtually no success with that.

You can't possibly think that either party will negotiate in good faith until we reach a crisis that makes this recession look like the good old days.

357 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:51:20pm

re: #352 goddamnedfrank

Neither are you.

oh my god, were you saving a quote from july just to pull a dumb gotcha?

don't be a knob.

358 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:51:27pm

re: #354 Aceofwhat?

The cousins of those guys live in the pine bark and underbrush in Houston. They do occasionally come flying out of the ac outlets inside the house, and seem to know to fly right at whoever is standing below.

359 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:51:32pm

re: #323 Killgore Trout

It's astounding to think about quickly Fox devolved into a nutty conspiracy outlet but Huffpo and Think Progress are now fairly reliable.

Anti-Semitic & racist cesspool blogs are acceptable for some reason.

360 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:53:26pm

re: #341 marjoriemoon

Reminds me. We have giant flying cockroaches - palmetto bugs. You can saddle up these suckers and ride around the house, I tell's ya.

Don't spray them with bug spray. It just pisses em off.

Yeah, I spotted one of those things buzzing around Lubbock a while back. I took one look and put the 12 gauge I use for ordinary Texas bugs back in the rack. Got out the big stuff: 75 mm Skysweeper, proximity fused fragmentation warhead, 100 rounds per minute. I bagged that ugly varmint, too. But the neighbors complained; not because of stray shells, mind you (I'm careful like that, being a good neighbor and all and they have self destruct anyway), but because the wrecked bug fell on their garage and smashed a Lexus and 2 Tahoes. Good riddance, I say, bugs and road hogs alike. Thank Gawd for the Second Amendment.

361 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:53:38pm

re: #324 SanFranciscoZionist

I once read a possum recipe in one of those 'hilbilly cookbook' productions where the woman writing it advised keeping a foot on your possum while you're doing kitchen prep, until it is actually butchered, because sometimes they're just playing dead and 'they'll slip away'.

If you are ever in New Zealand, I found a great place to get some fresh possum...

Pete's Possum Pies and Pete's Possum Pate produced at Pukekura are now available for distribution to outlets through out New Zealand .

The possum used in our products have all been MAF inspected and processed though a certified plant according to New Zealand food standards. By eating a possum you are helping the New Zealand environment. We guarantee our pies are of a very high standard and have been entered into the Bakels Pie Olympics held in July 2004

We currently have a number of outlets in the south island and are now working in outlets in the north

These are a gourmet pie with a unique NZ flavour. Possum has been likened to the flavour of chicken, mutton, rabbit and even guinea pig. However we conclude possum tastes like possum.

We use a commercial pastry, flaky top and savoury base prices available on request. If you have an interest in purchasing this 100% NZ product, contact us by either phone or email.

362 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:54:07pm

re: #348 Stanley Sea

News Corp. gave $1 million to pro-GOP group (Chamber of Commerce)

Read more: [Link: www.politico.com...]

Oh big time relevance. Big time.

Relevant, but lawful. Fox is allowed to donate like that if it wishes. And their past donations to Dems have gotten them nothing, so why not go whole-hog for the GOP?

363 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:54:17pm

Good grief.

I'm trying to locate graduates of my high school to notify them of a reunion being planned for next summer, and so I subscribed temporarily to a search site (which has been very useful, amazingly so).

They keep track of my searches and send me notice when new information is up about any name I've searched for.

So, I just got an e-mail - 1 NEW MATCH - I look at it - it's ME. Why the heck are the sending me notices about ME? I already know where I am.

364 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:54:30pm

re: #312 SanFranciscoZionist

In Golden Gate Park, early in the morning, you'll see feral cats and raccoons parked side by side, eating the cat food the little old ladies bring them.

Raccoons are highly adaptive and intelligent, they'll take advantage of any opportunities for free food that presents itself. I've seen them come within a couple of feet of people feeding them. I admire the raccoons, but think the people are stupid. Raccoons, as docile as they can appear, are still wild. Domesticating animals takes hundreds/thousands of generations.

365 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:54:58pm

re: #354 Aceofwhat?

Image: Palmettohand.jpg

ah, Florida!

We have those, or something very close to them, in Texas also. It took a LONG time, but I finally trained my ex to accept peaceful coexistence with the wolf spiders that occasionally took up residence in the garage. I finally convinced her that the reason she never saw roaches or crickets in the garage is because she saw wolf spiders.

366 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:55:27pm

re: #358 jaunte

The cousins of those guys live in the pine bark and underbrush in Houston. They do occasionally come flying out of the ac outlets inside the house, and seem to know to fly right at whoever is standing below.

If you can get past the heat, humidity, traffic, pollution, cockroaches, mosquitoes, megachurches and hicks with Confederate flags on their trucks/shirts/belt buckles, well then Houston's not a half bad place to live.

367 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:55:44pm

re: #360 Shiplord Kirel

Yeah, I spotted one of those things buzzing around Lubbock a while back. I took one look and put the 12 gauge I use for ordinary Texas bugs back in the rack. Got out the big stuff: 75 mm Skysweeper, proximity fused fragmentation warhead, 100 rounds per minute. I bagged that ugly varmint, too. But the neighbors complained; not because of stray shells, mind you (I'm careful like that, being a good neighbor and all and they have self destruct anyway), but because the wrecked bug fell on their garage and smashed a Lexus and 2 Tahoes. Good riddance, I say, bugs and road hogs alike. Thank Gawd for the Second Amendment.

ROFL! Care to move to Florida??

368 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:55:45pm

re: #272 Stanley Sea

Spiders are my doom. We have them everywhere. Saw a black widow a month ago all perched in my envelope drawer. wha? I was a wreck for a week.

There's a big black widows in my shed.
I named her Diva.
She's a bitch. Keeps all the other bugs and spiders out of my shed.
:)

369 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:55:54pm

re: #357 Aceofwhat?

oh my god, were you saving a quote from july just to pull a dumb gotcha?

don't be a knob.

I sometimes wonder if some folks have a spreadsheet or something, they can pull quotes so quickly.

370 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:56:05pm

OK, everyone remain calm or else I'll play this vuvuzela.

//

371 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:56:33pm

re: #343 jaunte

Cross this and this, and tell me what kind of 10 pounds of fitful monster you get.

Oh yes, meet my dog.

372 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:56:52pm

re: #359 NJDhockeyfan

Anti-Semitic & racist cesspool blogs are acceptable for some reason.

The problem here is a double standard. If you don't think linking to certain blogs is legit, then stop throwing up links to FoxNews.

373 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:57:18pm

re: #352 goddamnedfrank

Neither are you.

Sir, I called NJDhf out when he was disrespectful to you and you reply with a 'gotcha'? I questioned your source, I did not attack you personally.

374 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:57:26pm

re: #371 theheat

Cross this and this, and tell me what kind of 10 pounds of fitful monster you get.

Oh yes, meet my dog.

An animal that generates enough energy to power a small city?

375 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:57:47pm

re: #365 negativ

We have those, or something very close to them, in Texas also. It took a LONG time, but I finally trained my ex to accept peaceful coexistence with the wolf spiders that occasionally took up residence in the garage. I finally convinced her that the reason she never saw roaches or crickets in the garage is because she saw wolf spiders.

Had the most beautiful orb spider in my backyard for a while. Love those things...huge, perfect webs and a nice huge spider in the middle to catch all of the other annoying bugs. It was off to one side, behind some bushes, out of the way of human traffic.

376 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:57:59pm

re: #372 palomino

The problem here is a double standard. If you don't think linking to certain blogs is legit, then stop throwing up links to FoxNews.

Fox News is a news website, not a blog.
Hello!

377 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:58:15pm

re: #364 b_sharp

Raccoons are highly adaptive and intelligent, they'll take advantage of any opportunities for free food that presents itself. I've seen them come within a couple of feet of people feeding them. I admire the raccoons, but think the people are stupid. Raccoons, as docile as they can appear, are still wild. Domesticating animals takes hundreds/thousands of generations.

Oh, yes.
Raccoons can appear docile, and act docile, but you never know what'll set 'em off, startle them, and if you do - all bets are off. My grandmother was bitten by a raccoon once - was in the hospital for a week, on antibiotics, and more antibiotics once she was out. Don't mess with 'em. I think they get along with my cats OK because the cats leave them alone - as I said, there's plenty of food, and nobody needs to fight over it.

378 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:58:19pm

re: #354 Aceofwhat?

Ace, I'm a bit behind in comments, but how goes it? :)

379 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:58:38pm

re: #362 Dark_Falcon

Relevant, but lawful. Fox is allowed to donate like that if it wishes. And their past donations to Dems have gotten them nothing, so why not go whole-hog for the GOP?

What was Fox News trying to get from the Dems?

380 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:58:38pm

re: #370 Gus 802

OK, everyone remain calm or else I'll play this vuvuzela.

//

I hate those things. If you blow on it, you'll only make things worse.

381 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:58:50pm

re: #369 reine.de.tout

I sometimes wonder if some folks have a spreadsheet or something, they can pull quotes so quickly.

this blog gets a whooole lot less fun when we go for off-topic 'gotchas'...

382 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:59:06pm

re: #323 Killgore Trout

It's astounding to think about quickly Fox devolved into a nutty conspiracy outlet but Huffpo and Think Progress are now fairly reliable.

Huffpo? Reliable?

Not from where I sit, it's full of nonsensical alternative medicine crap.

383 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:59:30pm

re: #380 Dark_Falcon

I hate those things. If you blow on it, you'll only make things worse.

Don't click this.

/

384 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:59:43pm

re: #374 negativ

Has the terrier mentality, hard to train, has OCD, and runs like a gazelle. What a peach.

385 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 7:59:49pm

re: #320 reine.de.tout

Yeah, I nearly stepped on one the other night; opened my front door, and he was right there (with the cat), having dinner. Scared both of us.

RWC -
Here's why you don't wanna mess around with an opossum.

And, they pee when frightened. Yes, I know this from personal experience.
Ugly critters.

*waves* Hi to all!

386 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:00:33pm

re: #370 Gus 802

OK, everyone remain calm or else I'll play this vuvuzela.

//

My Gator buddy bought two of then off ebay. Orange and Blue of course.

387 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:00:42pm

re: #378 Stanley Sea

Ace, I'm a bit behind in comments, but how goes it? :)

Better than our Gators! When's the last time you seriously worried about MSU...? But i'm looking forward to OSU-Wisc...i do love me some old-timey Big10 football.

Kids are doing great in school...life's not bad.

388 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:01:17pm

re: #375 Aceofwhat?

Had the most beautiful orb spider in my backyard for a while. Love those things...huge, perfect webs and a nice huge spider in the middle to catch all of the other annoying bugs. It was off to one side, behind some bushes, out of the way of human traffic.

OOH, I love those webs, too.
Near where I live, there is a swamp that's been made into a park, with walkways through it. I was there once, no one else around, and saw just such a web, it was HUGE, and the sun was shining just right on it, it was gorgeous.

389 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:02:47pm

re: #379 palomino

What was Fox News trying to get from the Dems?

I don't know. The story you linked to just said that Fox used to split its donations fairly evenly. But these days they don't and they have no reason to. Even if they were to turn back into the Fox News of 2007 (which I would love), the Dems would still attack them. Fox News is something of a boogyman to some quarters of the left.

Note: This does not, repeat not excuse the bad stories Fox has showcased, nor does it justify Glenn Beck.

390 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:02:56pm

re: #386 Stanley Sea

My Gator buddy bought two of then off ebay. Orange and Blue of course.

Those things could be the cause of, or perhaps the solution to, a major hostage crisis.

391 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:03:02pm

re: #376 NJDhockeyfan

Fox News is a news website, not a blog.
Hello!

Fox News is no more or less a "news website" than HuffPo or the others you criticize. The distinction is specious. They both provide information slanted to fit their ideological agenda.

392 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:03:34pm

Obama's half brother in Kenya says he married teen

President Barack Obama's polygamist half brother in Kenya has married a woman who is more than 30 years younger than him.

The 19-year-old's mother told The Associated Press on Friday she is furious that her daughter quit high school and married the 52-year-old.

Mary Aoko Ouma says her daughter tried to marry Malik Obama two years ago, but the mother says she wouldn't give permission.

Malik Obama, who is Muslim, has two other wives. Polygamy is legal in Kenya if it falls under religious or cultural traditions.

In an interview broadcast by Kenya's NTV that was filmed without his knowledge, Malik Obama says he married the 19-year-old but didn't say when.

Ewww.

393 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:03:35pm

re: #312 SanFranciscoZionist

In Golden Gate Park, early in the morning, you'll see feral cats and raccoons parked side by side, eating the cat food the little old ladies bring them.

Has nobody seen fit to post this yet?
Funniest TV commercial. EVER.

394 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:03:52pm

re: #388 reine.de.tout

OOH, I love those webs, too.
Near where I live, there is a swamp that's been made into a park, with walkways through it.


Nice!

395 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:04:48pm

re: #388 reine.de.tout

OOH, I love those webs, too.
Near where I live, there is a swamp that's been made into a park, with walkways through it. I was there once, no one else around, and saw just such a web, it was HUGE, and the sun was shining just right on it, it was gorgeous.

More photos of the swamp.

Another visit is in order, I think. It's a beautiful place, in the middle of the city.

396 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:05:23pm
397 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:05:48pm

re: #391 palomino

Fox News is no more or less a "news website" than HuffPo or the others you criticize. The distinction is specious. They both provide information slanted to fit their ideological agenda.

The comparison isn't even close. Your FNDS is showing.

398 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:06:03pm

re: #389 Dark_Falcon

I don't know. The story you linked to just said that Fox used to split its donations fairly evenly. But these days they don't and they have no reason to. Even if they were to turn back into the Fox News of 2007 (which I would love), the Dems would still attack them. Fox News is something of a boogyman to some quarters of the left.

Note: This does not, repeat not excuse the bad stories Fox has showcased, nor does it justify Glenn Beck.

You implied that Fox expected something from the Dems and didn't get it. I'm just asking what that was.

As for Beck, he IS Fox News. You can't really think that Fox's top rated show is some anomaly.

399 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:06:04pm

re: #394 jaunte

Nice!

It's beautiful, any time of the year.

The city/parish library has a branch near the swamp - and they have a deck on the back of the library where you can look out over it. And then of course, you can go and walk the walkways. Just lovely.

400 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:06:08pm

re: #387 Aceofwhat?

Better than our Gators! When's the last time you seriously worried about MSU...? But i'm looking forward to OSU-Wisc...i do love me some old-timey Big10 football.

Kids are doing great in school...life's not bad.

Good! I got total grief from my Gator buds because I, AND MY BEAUTIFUL, LUCKY GATOR SWEATER was missing last weekend.

I will show this weekend. We will party, we will pray.

401 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:06:26pm

Black widow spiders are really timid.
Seriously.
You have to pretty far to get one to bite you.

402 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:06:27pm

re: #382 b_sharp

Huffpo? Reliable?

Not from where I sit, it's full of nonsensical alternative medicine crap.

They have their fair share of garbage over there but it's nothing compared to what goes on over at Fox News. Fox has become something along the lines of Alex Jones' infowars. DKos, Huffpo and Media Matters are far more reliable and accurate these days. It's a sad state of affairs but it's a fact.

403 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:07:13pm

re: #363 reine.de.tout

Good grief.

I'm trying to locate graduates of my high school to notify them of a reunion being planned for next summer, and so I subscribed temporarily to a search site (which has been very useful, amazingly so).

They keep track of my searches and send me notice when new information is up about any name I've searched for.

So, I just got an e-mail - 1 NEW MATCH - I look at it - it's ME. Why the heck are the sending me notices about ME? I already know where I am.

They're just making sure you don't miss anybody.

404 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:07:22pm

re: #396 negativ

Amateur.
Image: hefnerG150307_468x544.jpg

Hef's girls aren't teenagers, are they? If they are they already look like they've been ridden too hard.

405 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:08:08pm

re: #397 NJDhockeyfan

The comparison isn't even close. Your FNDS is showing.

So you don't see any ideological slant at Fox? Your reality DS is showing.

406 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:08:43pm

re: #400 Stanley Sea

Good! I got total grief from my Gator buds because I, AND MY BEAUTIFUL, LUCKY GATOR SWEATER was missing last weekend.

I will show this weekend. We will party, we will pray.

With all due respect to your buds, i think that you may have gotten grief because they had no business losing to LSU and someone had to serve as the outlet;)

407 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:09:00pm

re: #370 Gus 802

OK, everyone remain calm or else I'll play this vuvuzela.

//

That sounds vaguely obscene.

408 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:09:58pm

re: #392 NJDhockeyfan

Obama's half brother in Kenya says he married teen

Ewww.

OH COME ON! you are reaching with this one!

409 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:10:11pm

re: #383 Gus 802

Don't click this.


[Video]/

Those things were the reason I couldn't listen to the World Cup footage. They were maddening.

410 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:10:13pm

re: #407 b_sharp

That sounds vaguely obscene.

I agree. Vuvuzelas are altogether indecent.

And on that note of solidarity, i bid you all une bonne nuit.

A la prochaine, copains...

411 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:10:21pm

re: #402 Killgore Trout

They have their fair share of garbage over there but it's nothing compared to what goes on over at Fox News. Fox has become something along the lines of Alex Jones' infowars. DKos, Huffpo and Media Matters are far more reliable and accurate these days. It's a sad state of affairs but it's a fact.

But Fox News has the word news in it, so it must be better than those others. And Limabaugh told me that they are both fair AND balanced.

412 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:10:26pm

re: #408 Stanley Sea

OH COME ON! you are reaching with this one!

ODS.
;)

413 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:11:12pm
414 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:11:22pm

re: #375 Aceofwhat?

Had the most beautiful orb spider in my backyard for a while. Love those things...huge, perfect webs and a nice huge spider in the middle to catch all of the other annoying bugs. It was off to one side, behind some bushes, out of the way of human traffic.

Orb weavers are great until you walk through a web that wasn't there the day before. Then they're just icky.

415 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:11:37pm

re: #405 palomino

So you don't see any ideological slant at Fox? Your reality DS is showing.

When they equal themselves to the anti-Semitic HuffPo blog which doesn't even hide it's hate let me know.

416 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:12:08pm

re: #406 Aceofwhat?

With all due respect to your buds, i think that you may have gotten grief because they had no business losing to LSU and someone had to serve as the outlet;)

Yep, Gator Sea (insert real name) I have a rep. Go to the restroom? They score! Call out interception? Happens.

LOL, I'm excited even though we suck!

417 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:12:22pm

re: #402 Killgore Trout

They have their fair share of garbage over there but it's nothing compared to what goes on over at Fox News. Fox has become something along the lines of Alex Jones' infowars. DKos, Huffpo and Media Matters are far more reliable and accurate these days. It's a sad state of affairs but it's a fact.

Fox News is a reeking cesspool of bigotry and disinformation.

418 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:12:33pm

re: #331 jaunte

I'm having a hard time thinking of possum as good crispy food.
Last time we had heavy storms, a possum got into my garbage can, diving for food; couldn't get out and drowned when the rain kept coming for two days.
That was a hard smell to get rid of.

I think that anything that drowns in a trash can is going to smell pretty awful, no matter how delicious it might be cooked.

419 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:12:53pm

re: #377 reine.de.tout

Oh, yes.
Raccoons can appear docile, and act docile, but you never know what'll set 'em off, startle them, and if you do - all bets are off. My grandmother was bitten by a raccoon once - was in the hospital for a week, on antibiotics, and more antibiotics once she was out. Don't mess with 'em. I think they get along with my cats OK because the cats leave them alone - as I said, there's plenty of food, and nobody needs to fight over it.

My sister was bitten by a moose once.

Sorry, but it had to be done.

420 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:13:03pm

re: #408 Stanley Sea

OH COME ON! you are reaching with this one!

Reaching? It's an AP story I saw on Memorandum. What am I reaching?

421 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:13:34pm

re: #418 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm thinking it might be the beginning of a new recipe for possum stew.

422 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:13:39pm

re: #420 NJDhockeyfan

Image: 2rub7eoeem.jpg

423 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:14:25pm

re: #346 reine.de.tout

*sigh*
Well, I will admit this - we had a rat get into our house, just one, the cat jumped through the window with him.

He got away from the cat, and ran under our stove. I did NOT want the rat coming out from under the stove. I did NOT want him getting stuck under there and dying.

The Roi shot him, and got him out of the house.
I didn't really much like it. But there was simply nothing else to do.

The elderly Mexican-born mama of the cop in question came downstairs and threw pieces of bologna from the fridge until the raccoon ventured out after a big bit and she slammed the door on him.

424 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:14:39pm

re: #392 NJDhockeyfan

Obama's half brother in Kenya says he married teen


I think my biker step-step-son is Juggalo, so I can't judge.

425 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:15:18pm

re: #419 b_sharp

Come to think of it, I've eaten moose, too. And elk. And bear. WTF, I've eaten a whole lot of meat in my life, considering I'm a vegetarian now.

Moose tastes as good as any roast beef. Surprising, but true.

426 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:15:19pm

re: #398 palomino

You implied that Fox expected something from the Dems and didn't get it. I'm just asking what that was.

Perhaps Fox gave money to keep the Dems from being too hostile. I don't know why Fox gave as they did.

As for Beck, he IS Fox News. You can't really think that Fox's top rated show is some anomaly.

The O'Reilly Factor is Fox's top rated show, not Glenn Beck's program. Beck has a large and loyal following, but his early timeslot means he doesn't have O'Reilly's viewership.

427 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:15:32pm

re: #364 b_sharp

Raccoons are highly adaptive and intelligent, they'll take advantage of any opportunities for free food that presents itself. I've seen them come within a couple of feet of people feeding them. I admire the raccoons, but think the people are stupid. Raccoons, as docile as they can appear, are still wild. Domesticating animals takes hundreds/thousands of generations.

Raccoons are the street fighters of the animal kingdom.

428 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:15:40pm

re: #392 NJDhockeyfan

Obama's half brother in Kenya says he married teen

Ewww.

What's the ewww for, the age difference or the polygyny?

429 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:15:47pm

re: #401 Varek Raith

Black widow spiders are really timid.
Seriously.
You have to pretty far to get one to bite you.

But, left unmolested, they can have 8 egg sacs, and a WHOLE lotta kids.
They like concrete blocks, piled in the yard.
*squish with leather gloves on*

430 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:15:55pm

re: #415 NJDhockeyfan

When they equal themselves to the anti-Semitic HuffPo blog which doesn't even hide it's hate let me know.

I've seen anti-Semitic comments at HuffPo. I'm not sure that's such an accurate statement about their overall editorial approach.

Either way, here's the Fox equivalency: ACORN! Van Jones! New Black Panthers! Run for your lives, there are scary black people in charge in Obama's America!

431 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:16:26pm

re: #429 Floral Giraffe

But, left unmolested, they can have 8 egg sacs, and a WHOLE lotta kids.
They like concrete blocks, piled in the yard.
*squish with leather gloves on*

Meanie!

432 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:16:57pm

re: #415 NJDhockeyfan

When they equal themselves to the anti-Semitic HuffPo blog which doesn't even hide it's hate let me know.

How about Fox's anti Muslim bigotry?

433 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:17:02pm

By the way the party is still on at the Guardian...

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

434 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:17:32pm

re: #392 NJDhockeyfan

Obama's half brother in Kenya says he married teen

Ewww.

Oh, whatever.

435 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:18:05pm

re: #408 Stanley Sea

OH COME ON! you are reaching with this one!

Concur. Obama's half-siblings have not had any substantial influence on his life. Barack Obama's father's family had no contact with him growing up and only sporadic contact in recent years. Barack Obama is his own man; judge him by his own actions.

436 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:18:38pm

re: #433 Rightwingconspirator

By the way the party is still on at the Guardian...

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

It's nice to see the outraged stalkers creating so much traffic.

437 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:18:40pm

re: #404 NJDhockeyfan

Hef's girls aren't teenagers, are they? If they are they already look like they've been ridden too hard.

They're generally in their early twenties.

He also doesn't marry them, or limit himself to three.

438 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:18:52pm

re: #428 b_sharp

What's the ewww for, the age difference or the polygyny?

Polygamy. I am not a fan.

439 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:18:54pm

re: #405 palomino

So you don't see any ideological slant at Fox? Your reality DS is showing.

Some people have been taken in by the 'fair and balanced' slogan.

440 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:19:38pm

re: #413 palomino

So what?

I mean, if he had any kind of significance to me, I'd care, but seriously--she's over eighteen, and apparently consenting. Whatevah. There are little girls being forced into marriage all over the world, and I'm going to worry about them.

441 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:19:48pm

re: #438 NJDhockeyfan

Polygamy. I am not a fan.

Mitt Romney

442 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:19:52pm

re: #431 Varek Raith

Meanie!

The collars didn't work on them...
;(

443 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:20:36pm

re: #441 Gus 802

Mitt Romney

Romney is a polygamist? I didn't know that.

444 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:20:39pm

re: #425 theheat

Come to think of it, I've eaten moose, too. And elk. And bear. WTF, I've eaten a whole lot of meat in my life, considering I'm a vegetarian now.

Moose tastes as good as any roast beef. Surprising, but true.

Not surprising. Big bovines generally taste very good.

445 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:20:40pm

re: #442 Floral Giraffe

Skinks will take care of the problem.

446 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:20:41pm

re: #436 Killgore Trout

Pretty good moderation there I'd say. Good to see some of us on another blog too.

447 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:20:42pm

re: #441 Gus 802

Mitt Romney

Not ol' Mitt himself but:


Should We Care?

In a recent Associated Press Article published on Yahoo, evidence is cited that polygamy has its roots in the family tree of Mormon 2008 Republican hopeful, Mitt Romney.

As it turns out, one of his great-grandfathers had five wives, and another had twelve.

448 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:21:29pm

re: #436 Killgore Trout

It's nice to see the outraged stalkers creating so much traffic.

And now they're claiming that I've deleted hundreds of old posts at LGF. It's like an insane asylum there.

449 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:21:34pm

re: #447 Gus 802

Not ol' Mitt himself but:


Should We Care?

I like the title "should we care?" I say not. Kind of like I could give two shits about Obama's half brother in Africa.

450 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:21:34pm

Fox News in partially funded by a Saudi Terror Prince of Terror and Terror-yness!
/I love using their own "logic" against them!

451 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:21:47pm

re: #441 Gus 802

Mitt Romney

Last I checked, he only had one wife.

452 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:22:04pm

re: #420 NJDhockeyfan

Reaching? It's an AP story I saw on Memorandum. What am I reaching?

Your purpose in bringing it here is suspect.

453 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:22:05pm

re: #438 NJDhockeyfan

Polygamy. I am not a fan.

Polygamy is both ways, multiple husbands, multiple wives.

Polygyny is specifically more than one woman.

454 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:22:24pm

re: #451 Dark_Falcon

Last I checked, he only had one wife.

I followed up. It's in the family tree.

455 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:22:55pm

re: #447 Gus 802

Not ol' Mitt himself but:


Should We Care?

As it turns out, one of his great-grandfathers had five wives, and another had twelve.

I can barely handle one wife. I couldn't handle any more.

456 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:23:14pm

Anyone who would think to utter support for Fox should visit their sponsored site: FoxNation.

You will never see more racist hate against OUR PRESIDENT AND THE FIRST LADY than you will see there.

Give me a break when you support Fox.

cesspool? You want a cesspool?

Go there. I gave up, I posted opposition, reported etc. nada.

457 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:23:20pm

re: #441 Gus 802

Mitt Romney

Mitt Romney? Wait, if HE married a nineteen-year-old third wife, THAT will leave a dent in American politics. Also in the Modern Mormon Church.

458 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:24:00pm

re: #455 NJDhockeyfan

I can barely handle one wife. I couldn't handle any more.

I think if a man or woman can handle multiple spouses they should be allowed. People should be judged as individuals in these cases.

459 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:24:06pm

re: #452 b_sharp

Your purpose in bringing it here is suspect.

OK, you have all the answers. Tell me more!

460 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:24:14pm

re: #436 Killgore Trout

It's nice to see the outraged stalkers creating so much traffic.

I especially like the lying creep who claims to have an account at LGF, but he's just terrified to express his real opinions, so he goes to the Guardian instead. Do these morons really think anyone is taken in by their crap?

461 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:24:14pm

re: #456 Stanley Sea

Anyone who would think to utter support for Fox should visit their sponsored site: FoxNation.

You will never see more racist hate against OUR PRESIDENT AND THE FIRST LADY than you will see there.

Give me a break when you support Fox.

cesspool? You want a cesspool?

Go there. I gave up, I posted opposition, reported etc. nada.

Bingo!

462 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:24:23pm

re: #448 Charles

And now they're claiming that I've deleted hundreds of old posts at LGF. It's like an insane asylum there.

"Chenzen" had a whole series of posts at Rodan's "Diary of Daedalus" chronicling posts he said he had "retrieved from the memory hole". The Stalkers have been building up this meme for weeks now. It's horseshit, but that's what they are doing.

463 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:24:31pm

re: #426 Dark_Falcon

Perhaps Fox gave money to keep the Dems from being too hostile. I don't know why Fox gave as they did.

The O'Reilly Factor is Fox's top rated show, not Glenn Beck's program. Beck has a large and loyal following, but his early timeslot means he doesn't have O'Reilly's viewership.

First off, if you don't know what Fox wanted from the Dems, then why bring it up as if the Dems let them down?

Second, Beck is just O'Reilly (and Hannity) with a little more Jesus and crying thrown in. As for ratings, it's not so simple. Beck wins the highly coveted 25-54 demo at least some of the time. Admittedly that's probably Fox's smallest overall demo, as their major appeal seems to be to people who think O'Reilly is a youngster.

464 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:26:36pm

re: #404 NJDhockeyfan

Hef's girls aren't teenagers, are they? If they are they already look like they've been ridden too hard.

A 19 year old is an adult.

465 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:26:47pm

re: #447 Gus 802

Not ol' Mitt himself but:


Should We Care?

Should we care? Why should we care? Mormon men of that era took multiple wives. Why should anyone except genealogists and historical novelists worry?

(I recall reading an essay by an historical novelist who wrote a book about Sam Houston's Cherokee wife. About halfway through her research she realized that this woman's father had taken two wives simultaneously, a widow and her daughter. She said she spent the next week completely revamping the family tree she'd been working on, cursing Jack Rodgers, and singing "I'm My Own Grandpa" off-key.

466 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:27:20pm

re: #448 Charles

And now they're claiming that I've deleted hundreds of old posts at LGF. It's like an insane asylum there.

They're spending hours preserving them for posterity and linking things. It's very weird behavior, even by their standards.

467 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:28:27pm

I'm seriously considering deleting every old post at LGF prior to 2008.

Just to fuck with their heads.

Then I'll restore them after they get worked up into a lather.

468 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:28:44pm

re: #438 NJDhockeyfan

Polygamy. I am not a fan.

Human history is full of polygamy.

469 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:29:00pm

re: #467 Charles

I'm seriously considering deleting every old post at LGF prior to 2008.

Just to fuck with their heads.

Then I'll restore them after they get worked up into a lather.

That would be awesome.
And epic.
XD

470 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:29:01pm

re: #467 Charles

Real life lol here.

471 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:29:06pm

re: #467 Charles

I'm seriously considering deleting every old post at LGF prior to 2008.

Just to fuck with their heads.

Then I'll restore them after they get worked up into a lather.

Woot! Say you were backing things up and tidying up the website. Hide a tiny note somewhere.

472 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:29:39pm

re: #448 Charles

That was kinda easy to slap down with your current stats ummm 8.7 million comments. LOL

473 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:29:53pm

re: #467 Charles

I'm seriously considering deleting every old post at LGF prior to 2008.

Just to fuck with their heads.

Then I'll restore them after they get worked up into a lather.

Available for subscribers only.

//

474 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:30:15pm

re: #441 Gus 802

Mitt Romney

Western cultures have simply stretched simultaneous polygamy out into serial polygamy.

475 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:30:38pm

re: #451 Dark_Falcon

Last I checked, he only had one wife.

The point wasn't to castigate Romney, rather to show how silly and unfounded it is to post a story, as NJD did, about someone's relative (half bro or grandfather or whatever) who did something that's now taboo in America.

You were talking earlier about smears. This is a real smear.

476 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:30:41pm

re: #473 Gus 802

Available for subscribers only.

//

Copy of original article available to non-subscribers for $1.95.

/

477 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:30:47pm

re: #468 b_sharp

Human history is full of polygamy.

I've considered writing a novel about King David's wives. There were eight, but I can't recall if that's with or without Avishag.

478 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:30:50pm

re: #468 b_sharp

Human history is full of polygamy.

Yep.

479 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:31:19pm

re: #474 b_sharp

Western cultures have simply stretched simultaneous polygamy out into serial polygamy.

My grandfather was married five times.

480 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:31:35pm

re: #468 b_sharp

Human history is full of polygamy.

I know that. It doesn't mean I have to like it, does it?

481 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:31:57pm

re: #463 palomino

First off, if you don't know what Fox wanted from the Dems, then why bring it up as if the Dems let them down?

Because it seemed noteworthy that they had given money to the Dems. It was to make it clear that both parties had taken Fox money in the past and tto help make the case that Fox money was not somehow tainted.

482 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:32:01pm

re: #468 b_sharp

Human history is full of polygamy.

It would take the wisdom of Solomon to see how it affects one's ability to govern.

483 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:32:24pm

re: #475 palomino

The point wasn't to castigate Romney, rather to show how silly and unfounded it is to post a story, as NJD did, about someone's relative (half bro or grandfather or whatever) who did something that's now taboo in America.

You were talking earlier about smears. This is a real smear.

If that man weren't Obama's half brother, IT NEVER WOULD'VE COME UP.
;)

484 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:33:12pm

re: #482 Decatur Deb

Or the wisdom of Solomon's half brother.

485 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:33:45pm

re: #475 palomino

The point wasn't to castigate Romney, rather to show how silly and unfounded it is to post a story, as NJD did, about someone's relative (half bro or grandfather or whatever) who did something that's now taboo in America.

You were talking earlier about smears. This is a real smear.

And I agree. That story had no relevance beyond a cheap shot, and I said so.

486 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:34:13pm

re: #404 NJDhockeyfan

Hef's girls aren't teenagers, are they? If they are they already look like they've been ridden too hard.

Ridden too hard? WTF for 50K Alex.

487 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:34:23pm

re: #483 Varek Raith

If that man weren't Obama's half brother, IT NEVER WOULD'VE COME UP.
;)

Quite Concur.

488 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:35:14pm

re: #484 jaunte

Or the wisdom of Solomon's half brother.

Most of those came to some brisk and nasty ends after David died.

Especially Adonijah, the one who tried to marry Avishag.

Solomon was a mean SOB when threatened. And his mother was, you'll forgive my saying so, a piece of work.

OTOH, AFAIK, he never totally ignored it when one of his children raped another one of his children, which David did.

That family was a nonstop soap opera in goatskin shoes.

489 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:35:20pm

re: #427 SanFranciscoZionist

Raccoons are the street fighters of the animal kingdom.

I got in a fight with three raccoons once. Nasty buggers. I heard weird noises and animal screeching and ran to the deck. Three of them had one of my cats pinned underneath them. So without even thinking I charged and just started kicking them off. They got off and ran down the stairs and the cats ran under the BBQ. Nasty things started coming back up the deck so I just started grabbing anything a could and chucking them at them. Plant pots, chairs and then found a broom and started whacking.
They finally left and there's me guarding the stairs and the rest of my family standing there in their pj's going wtf? Scared my Mom to see me go all crazy like that.

I was like hey they were killing the Scruffy!

Scruffy ended up with shunts in her legs, lots of stitches and on really harsh antibiotics for several weeks. She lived a good long life after that. :D

490 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:36:06pm

re: #484 jaunte

Or the wisdom of Solomon's half brother.

Wouldn't be wise to write insurance on any of them.

491 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:36:29pm

re: #488 SanFranciscoZionist

Most of those came to some brisk and nasty ends after David died.

Especially Adonijah, the one who tried to marry Avishag.

Solomon was a mean SOB when threatened. And his mother was, you'll forgive my saying so, a piece of work.

OTOH, AFAIK, he never totally ignored it when one of his children raped another one of his children, which David did.

That family was a nonstop soap opera in goatskin shoes.

Ha!

The Devil Wears Prada Goatskin Shoes

/

492 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:37:26pm

re: #481 Dark_Falcon

Because it seemed noteworthy that they had given money to the Dems. It was to make it clear that both parties had taken Fox money in the past and tto help make the case that Fox money was not somehow tainted.

It's not really that noteworthy that they gave some money to Dems. Corporations hedge their bets all the time when it comes to contributions. Moreover, the amounts were relatively small and now seem to be more in line with Fox's overarching ideological project.

493 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:38:13pm

re: #489 Jadespring

I got in a fight with three raccoons once. Nasty buggers. I heard weird noises and animal screeching and ran to the deck. Three of them had one of my cats pinned underneath them. So without even thinking I charged and just started kicking them off. They got off and ran down the stairs and the cats ran under the BBQ. Nasty things started coming back up the deck so I just started grabbing anything a could and chucking them at them. Plant pots, chairs and then found a broom and started whacking.
They finally left and there's me guarding the stairs and the rest of my family standing there in their pj's going wtf? Scared my Mom to see me go all crazy like that.

I was like hey they were killing the Scruffy!

Scruffy ended up with shunts in her legs, lots of stitches and on really harsh antibiotics for several weeks. She lived a good long life after that. :D

I KNOW I've told this story here before but; a dog-walking friend of mine once had her terrier attacked by a raccoon. The terrier won't back down--it's a TERRIER--and the racoon is kicking its ass. My friend is screaming her head off in the middle of a Richmond District neighborhood. Windows slam open up and down the block, and someone screams, "I'm calling the cops!"

Then the door of the house this is all happening in front of busts open, and a guy comes charging down wearing no shirt, Doc Martens, and wielding a baseball bat, yelling "Where is he, lady?"

She showed him the raccoon, and he kicked it a couple of times. It went away.

494 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:38:19pm

re: #459 NJDhockeyfan

OK, you have all the answers. Tell me more!

It appears you were trying to strike a blow against Obama through posting an emotional language laden news article about a relative of his in the hope the guilt by association argument would get by us.

BTW, I have never claimed to have all the answers.

495 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:39:11pm

re: #494 b_sharp

It appears you were trying to strike a blow against Obama through posting an emotional language laden news article about a relative of his in the hope the guilt by association argument would get by us.

BTW, I have never claimed to have all the answers.

I, however, do.
Just ask.

496 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:39:30pm

re: #494 b_sharp

It appears you were trying to strike a blow against Obama through posting an emotional language laden news article about a relative of his in the hope the guilt by association argument would get by us.

BTW, I have never claimed to have all the answers.

Well, if you don't have ALL the answers, then you should just STFU and never criticize anything.

/

497 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:39:42pm

re: #429 Floral Giraffe

But, left unmolested, they can have 8 egg sacs, and a WHOLE lotta kids.
They like concrete blocks, piled in the yard.
*squish with leather gloves on*

Just don't accidentally cut a critter in half with your scissors while trimming around the stepping stones (like I did).
ew.

498 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:40:13pm

re: #497 reine.de.tout

Just don't accidentally cut a critter in half with your scissors while trimming around the stepping stones (like I did).
ew.

There, there.
It'll be okay.
:)

499 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:40:52pm

re: #496 palomino

Well, if you don't have ALL the answers, then you should just STFU and never criticize anything.


Dang, I knew I was doing it wrong.

500 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:41:33pm

'Nite, all.

501 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:41:47pm

re: #494 b_sharp

It appears you were trying to strike a blow against Obama through posting an emotional language laden news article about a relative of his in the hope the guilt by association argument would get by us.

BTW, I have never claimed to have all the answers.

Completely wrong but nice try.

502 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:41:53pm

re: #497 reine.de.tout

Just don't accidentally cut a critter in half with your scissors while trimming around the stepping stones (like I did).
ew.

We have tons of frogs at my place that hang out in the grass.

Mowing the lawn can be a traumatic experience at times....

503 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:42:23pm

re: #498 Varek Raith

There, there.
It'll be okay.
:)

I'm still traumatized.

504 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:42:42pm

re: #501 NJDhockeyfan

Completely wrong but nice try.

Well, why post it then?

505 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:44:15pm

re: #480 NJDhockeyfan

I know that. It doesn't mean I have to like it, does it?

No, of course not. The historical context just removes the western cultural exceptionalism from your argument.

506 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:44:50pm

re: #445 jaunte

Skinks will take care of the problem.

There are so many fence lizards & ground squirrels at the Huntington.
The Red tailed hawks are feasting!
Sadly, not enough hawks, here.
Yet....

507 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:45:50pm

re: #504 Dark_Falcon

Well, why post it then?

To get a rise out of people. He's a troll, don't act all surprised.

508 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:45:53pm

re: #504 Dark_Falcon

Well, why post it then?

It's news. If you are not happy with the story then complain to the AP.

The Associated Press contact page. It includes their address, phone number, and email address. Have at it!

509 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:46:17pm

Here's Fox idiots trashing Mister Rogers, of all people:

And here's some awesome fair & balanced reporting.
(link to huge pic)

510 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:47:23pm

re: #467 Charles

Too late, they're in a lather. And call me naive, but I had no idea there were multiple blogs that stalked your every move, documenting every comment obsessively, to the point of making them searchable. It's beyond creepy.

And they write really sloppy code. Intolerably sloppy. Doing a view source is like following a drunk's taillights down a dirt road. You get seasick. I suppose it's an indication of their thinking process, and the fact .php, .js, and Wordpress give as good as they get. My god, what a mess.

511 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:47:28pm

re: #506 Floral Giraffe

You need the fence lizards!
I have a little (6X8) pond that supports an amazing variety of amphibians and reptiles in the back yard here; our insects are completely intimidated.

512 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:48:00pm

re: #467 Charles

I'm seriously considering deleting every old post at LGF prior to 2008.

Just to fuck with their heads.

Then I'll restore them after they get worked up into a lather.

Sounds like fun!
Stalkers heads=BOOM!

513 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:48:20pm

re: #489 Jadespring

re: #493 SanFranciscoZionist

I brought in a stray adult male that the neighbors left behind when they moved. The first thing he did was go after my alpha male. You know how cats do a lot of showboating? Hissing, growling, fur up and all that? There was none of that. My alpha kitty came up to him and he just grabbed him by the throat and threw him down. I freaked. Fur was flying off my cat and I knew I would never pull them apart so I grabbed the water dish and dumped it on them. They immediately broke up.

I wonder if it would work for wild critters? Keep the garden hose handy for such incidents. It's not that they don't like the water per se. I think it's just the shock of having water dumped on them. And it's safer than beating a raccoon to death.

514 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:49:40pm

re: #497 reine.de.tout

Just don't accidentally cut a critter in half with your scissors while trimming around the stepping stones (like I did).
ew.

Knocked the head of a mole off with a golf club once.

515 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:50:04pm

re: #512 Floral Giraffe

Sounds like fun!
Stalkers heads=BOOM!

They're probably hur hurring each other and taking notes. "When it happens we'll know!"

516 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:52:21pm

re: #513 marjoriemoon

re: #493 SanFranciscoZionist

I brought in a stray adult male that the neighbors left behind when they moved. The first thing he did was go after my alpha male. You know how cats do a lot of showboating? Hissing, growling, fur up and all that? There was none of that. My alpha kitty came up to him and he just grabbed him by the throat and threw him down. I freaked. Fur was flying off my cat and I knew I would never pull them apart so I grabbed the water dish and dumped it on them. They immediately broke up.

I wonder if it would work for wild critters? Keep the garden hose handy for such incidents. It's not that they don't like the water per se. I think it's just the shock of having water dumped on them. And it's safer than beating a raccoon to death.

My mother-in-law, who is essentially a Southern good ol' boy trapped in a small middle-aged woman's body, once trapped a raccoon in her San Francisco front-porch area.

Letting it go again without getting killed was, of course, the tricky part.

517 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:53:19pm

re: #513 marjoriemoon

re: #493 SanFranciscoZionist

I brought in a stray adult male that the neighbors left behind when they moved. The first thing he did was go after my alpha male. You know how cats do a lot of showboating? Hissing, growling, fur up and all that? There was none of that. My alpha kitty came up to him and he just grabbed him by the throat and threw him down. I freaked. Fur was flying off my cat and I knew I would never pull them apart so I grabbed the water dish and dumped it on them. They immediately broke up.

I wonder if it would work for wild critters? Keep the garden hose handy for such incidents. It's not that they don't like the water per se. I think it's just the shock of having water dumped on them. And it's safer than beating a raccoon to death.

Yeah a garden hose would probably work. If one had been there and turned on I probably would have used it. My reaction was just so automatic though I just used what I had. It was a weird experience because it wasn't until after the fact that I sat back and thought about what I actually did. My sister who was quite young at the time said that after that she always knew that 'big sis' would jump in and protect her if needed which was kinda cool. :)

518 APox  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:56:20pm

Did anyone watch Bill Maher tonight? I got to see him agree with Bill O'Reilly about the evil mooslims. I was pretty disappointed about it so I registered an account over at HBO and posted:

I don't understand how this was passed off so easily. The distinction that needs to be drawn is that the people that attacked us on 9/11 were TERRORISTS first, Muslim extremists second, and Muslims third. Building on the assumption that they were Muslims first feeds into a xenophobic and bigoted world view that extremists on the right have tried to perpetuate as fact. This is the assumption that crazed Pamela Geller is espousing all the time along with her skinhead friends over in Europe.

I'm really disappointed that you make this leap because I don't think it's very fair. If an extremist Christian group ran the planes into 9/11 I wouldn't say that Christians attacked us on 9/11 and make that broad brush of fear across an entire religious group to ostracize them and alienate them further into the "them" category instead of the "us" category.

I'm a young Atheist but I do not believe that the majority of people that practice major religions are evil and especially when one particular group is coming under increased persecution.


And if you don't like the Christian analogy because of a deep seated hatred for everything that is religion, then let's use the analogy to black people in the pre-Civil Rights era. If someone in the 1940's commented on a murder or rape and said "black people killed this person" or "black people raped this woman" it would be factually correct, but ethically dishonest. It should be "there was a murderer that killed someone" or "a man raped a woman" instead of a comment that inspires hatred or fear of a whole group of people.


Hopefully that hits for someone.

519 Interesting Times  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:56:26pm

re: #514 b_sharp

Knocked the head of a mole off with a golf club once.

Thus giving the term "whack-a-mole" a whole new meaning... o_O

520 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:58:09pm

re: #513 marjoriemoon

re: #493 SanFranciscoZionist
I wonder if it would work for wild critters? Keep the garden hose handy for such incidents. It's not that they don't like the water per se. I think it's just the shock of having water dumped on them. And it's safer than beating a raccoon to death.

I'm almost certain that it would work, for exactly the reasons you described. (Pro tip: probably not a reliable defense against actual mama grizzlies)

Every dog I've ever had cowered in terror from The Agonizer, which is a squirt bottle filled with tapwater. Any undesirable behavior could be instantly halted with one or two squirts. Effective, completely humane and guilt-free.

Its name comes from a Star Trek torture device used by Evil Bearded Spock in a parallel universe to punish crew members' trivial infractions.

521 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:58:28pm

Since we already have them paranoid I'm sure more than a few of them are going to spend the next few weeks trying to "back up" everything they can from LGF.

Here come even more stalker divorces!

522 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:00:35pm

re: #392 NJDhockeyfan

Obama's half brother in Kenya says he married teen

Ewww.

WE KNOW, YOU HATE THE BLACK GUY IN OFFICE


WE UNDERSTAND

523 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:01:02pm

Hey guys, did you know there's a black guy as president?

524 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:01:35pm

re: #521 Gus 802

Maybe it would make sense to archive all the old stuff, and make it available to registered subscribers only. It isn't because everything is that toxic, but it might curtail some of the more flammable posts, and taking things out of context. Plus, there's a bit of exclusivity; a perk to registered subscribers. A lot of the Ag and animal breeder's databases are subscriber-only, which is what made me think of it.

525 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:01:41pm

hey look! Guys in Kenya, they're weird and scary and primitive and gross stuff!


They're not like us!


They're the enemy!


We like hockey and America and we're awesome!

526 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:01:54pm

re: #522 WindUpBird

WE KNOW, YOU HATE THE BLACK GUY IN OFFICE

WE UNDERSTAND

That's a complete lie and uncalled for. Go fuck yourself.

527 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:02:27pm

re: #521 Gus 802

Since we already have them paranoid I'm sure more than a few of them are going to spend the next few weeks trying to "back up" everything they can from LGF.

Here come even more stalker divorces!

Stalkers are married?
Who knew?

528 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:02:42pm

re: #523 WindUpBird

Was that you at the Guardian? As in the guy who said something like "Haters man up your President is a Black man" That was one of my favorite comments over there.

529 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:02:56pm

I just figured out how fun it is to dehumanize a race!

I'm a douche on the internet!

530 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:03:16pm

re: #519 publicityStunted

Thus giving the term "whack-a-mole" a whole new meaning... o_O

I believe it was a 9 iron. Best chip shot ever.

531 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:03:39pm

re: #508 NJDhockeyfan

You would not have posted the story if it weren't for the fact that he was related to Obama.
Correct?

532 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:04:13pm

re: #528 Rightwingconspirator

Was that you at the Guardian? As in the guy who said something like "Haters man up your President is a Black man" That was one of my favorite comments over there.

That was....ozbloke, if his nick is to be believed :D

533 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:04:31pm

re: #527 Floral Giraffe

Stalkers are married?
Who knew?

Yeah, it's hard to picture that.

534 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:04:46pm

re: #531 Varek Raith

You would not have posted the story if it weren't for the fact that he was related to Obama.
Correct?

BLACK GUY!

LOOK!

RELATED TO THE PRESIDENT!

WHO'S NOT REALLY AMURKIAN!


THEY'RE SCARY!

535 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:05:16pm

re: #525 WindUpBird

Not cool. Why just pick a fight like that?

536 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:06:16pm

re: #531 Varek Raith

You would not have posted the story if it weren't for the fact that he was related to Obama.
Correct?

I saw it on Memorandum and posted it here. What the fuck? I post stories I see from news sites all the time. Why am I getting so much shit for this one?

537 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:06:18pm

re: #529 WindUpBird

I just figured out how fun it is to dehumanize a race!

I'm a douche on the internet!

Fuck the idea of races.

538 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:06:38pm

re: #526 NJDhockeyfan

That's a complete lie and uncalled for. Go fuck yourself.

hahahaha yes yes we understand, we totally get it


it was just a stunning coincidence


it wasn't race baiting at all

no


not at all

539 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:07:06pm

re: #532 WindUpBird

oops you are right it was.

540 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:07:06pm

re: #537 b_sharp

Fuck the idea of races.

Yeah, you know what?

Black people...

don't have the luxury of discarding race.

541 prairiefire  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:07:20pm

An image for Halloween:[Link: imgur.com...]

542 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:07:42pm

re: #538 WindUpBird

hahahaha yes yes we understand, we totally get it

it was just a stunning coincidence

it wasn't race baiting at all

no

not at all

Here is a perfect example of what a troll does.

543 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:07:55pm

re: #536 NJDhockeyfan

I saw it on Memorandum and posted it here. What the fuck? I post stories I see from news sites all the time. Why am I getting so much shit for this one?

You really don't know?

544 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:08:06pm

Agh stupid Yankees. Sorry, put a damper on an otherwise good night. On a sidenote, I love my job as a sports reporter.

545 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:09:18pm

re: #542 NJDhockeyfan

Here is a perfect example of what a troll does.

Yes, because I'm the troll, not the guy who posted the race baitey oh-I'll-just-leave-this-hear link to the scary Kenyan who married a teenager who's related to Obama

ahh

hahaha

hee

oho.

Come on man, I'm internet, don't try this grade school shit on me.

546 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:09:21pm

re: #523 WindUpBird

Hey guys, did you know there's a black guy as president?

Actually, he's biracial, but who's noticing.

547 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:09:24pm

re: #544 HappyWarrior

Agh stupid Yankees. Sorry, put a damper on an otherwise good night. On a sidenote, I love my job as a sports reporter.

The Devils lost tonight too but it wasn't a blowout. Tomorrow is another sports day.

548 bratwurst  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:09:42pm

re: #543 WindUpBird

You really don't know?


My guess? He doesn't.

549 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:11:14pm

re: #529 WindUpBird


I'm a douche on the internet!

Finally some truth posted by you.

550 prairiefire  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:11:19pm

Scary monkey:[Link: imgur.com...]

551 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:11:24pm

Okay time to roll one. Like minded folks meet me on the porch.

552 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:11:55pm

re: #540 WindUpBird

Yeah, you know what?

Black people...

don't have the luxury of discarding race.

Perhaps if we, as the dominant tribe, did, they would.

553 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:12:48pm

re: #520 negativ

I'm almost certain that it would work, for exactly the reasons you described. (Pro tip: probably not a reliable defense against actual mama grizzlies)

Every dog I've ever had cowered in terror from The Agonizer, which is a squirt bottle filled with tapwater. Any undesirable behavior could be instantly halted with one or two squirts. Effective, completely humane and guilt-free.

Its name comes from a Star Trek torture device used by Evil Bearded Spock in a parallel universe to punish crew members' trivial infractions.

That doesn't work on my new LGD pup. I can full on spray her with the hose and while momentarily distracted she's right back at whatever she's doing and usually just get pissed off. In dog language she gives me a big FU bark. That's her nature though and while annoying as a pup when she's doing puppy things it's a trait to be prized in the work she'll being doing when facing off coyotes and other critters. No grizzlies around here to worry about but if there were she'd stand up against them too. I saw video of several of these dogs facing off against a grizzly. It was incredible.

554 prairiefire  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:13:38pm

Fear under the Big Top:[Link: imgur.com...]

555 APox  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:14:10pm

I would definitely agree that it is race baiting but I also think that if there was a story posted years back that Bush's brother married a teenager that I would probably be heralding it as evidence of what Texas culture is like.

I'm hyper-sensitive to race baiting with Obama because it is apparent that the extreme right is trying to set Obama as not one of us Americans, but still...

556 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:14:31pm

re: #540 WindUpBird

Yeah, you know what?

Black people...

don't have the luxury of discarding race.

I'm curious how NJD can disagree that black people don't have the luxury of discarding race!


care to field that question?

557 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:15:05pm

re: #551 Rightwingconspirator

Okay time to roll one. Like minded folks meet me on the porch.

Bringing the bong.

558 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:15:31pm

re: #551 Rightwingconspirator

Okay time to roll one. Like minded folks meet me on the porch.

Oh do I wish.....

559 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:15:40pm
560 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:15:44pm

re: #553 Jadespring

What's an LGD dog?

561 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:15:50pm

re: #542 NJDhockeyfan

Here is a perfect example of what a troll does.

Nope, he's telling it right to you're face, whereas your behavior in this thread fits the etymology of the term to a tee.

562 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:16:27pm

re: #555 APox

I would definitely agree that it is race baiting but I also think that if there was a story posted years back that Bush's brother married a teenager that I would probably be heralding it as evidence of what Texas culture is like.

I'm hyper-sensitive to race baiting with Obama because it is apparent that the extreme right is trying to set Obama as not one of us Americans, but still...

Long lost brother? Like someone who Bush had no contact with, whose family had no contact with? Is this someone Obama hangs out with? Of course not.

I would look at that as pure politics, whether it's Bush or Obama. And when you get the OMG KENYAN! ALIEN! WEIRD! Which is how you get the race baiting into it.

563 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:16:39pm

re: #559 The Blue Boy

The problem is, it isn't Obama that married a teenager, or has three wives.
So it doesn't much matter.

564 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:16:53pm

re: #559 The Blue Boy

I happened to stroll in here and notice some temper tantrums, so I just wanted to say that I'm on your side. In the link, if you replace "Obama" with "Bush", and "Kenya" with "Texas", you still have a link that might get posted in here (along with the "eww").

Magical balance fairy, thy name is Blue Boy

565 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:17:04pm

re: #563 jaunte

The problem is, it isn't Obama that married a teenager, or has three wives.
So it doesn't much matter.

Ding!

566 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:17:24pm

re: #561 goddamnedfrank

Nope, he's telling it right to you're face, whereas your behavior in this thread fits the etymology of the term to a tee.

Thanks! :D

567 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:17:47pm

re: #560 theheat

What's an LGD dog?

Oh sorry. Livestock Guardian Dog. She's a maremma, great pyr cross.
She's just coming up to five months old and she's almost 3/4 of the size of my german shepherd and he's a big dog. She's going to be a monster.

568 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:18:33pm

re: #552 b_sharp

Perhaps if we, as the dominant tribe, did, they would.

If we all agreed to stop being tribalist based on skin color and cultural background at the same time, awesome!


But humans will never do that. At least not in our lifetimes.

569 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:18:38pm

re: #554 prairiefire

Fear under the Big Top:[Link: imgur.com...]

lol spooky!

570 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:19:31pm

We're forgettign another point here guys is that this is a nineteen year old woman. Not a girl but a woman. Yeah, it's creepy that he married a woman thirty years younger than him. Now, the article implies that they wanted to marry when she was seventeen which is still considered above the age of consent in a lot of states. I am not saying it's what I would have done or anything like that but it's not like he married a twelve year old.

571 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:19:46pm

re: #567 Jadespring

O I C. I've seen Great Pyrenees before, but they didn't strike me as particularly aggressive - or that would stand up to a beat. I guess they are when they need to be!

572 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:20:08pm

re: #571 theheat

PIMF bear, not beat.

573 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:20:32pm

re: #559 The Blue Boy

I happened to stroll in here and notice some temper tantrums, so I just wanted to say that I'm on your side. In the link, if you replace "Obama" with "Bush", and "Kenya" with "Texas", you still have a link that might get posted in here (along with the "eww").

Bullshit.

BTW, polygamy is legal in Kenya, not so much in Texas.

I think most of us here are sensitive to bad arguments like guilt by association.

574 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:22:07pm

re: #559 The Blue Boy

I happened to stroll in here and notice some temper tantrums, so I just wanted to say that I'm on your side. In the link, if you replace "Obama" with "Bush", and "Kenya" with "Texas", you still have a link that might get posted in here (along with the "eww").

In Texas, marrying a third wife (while still married to the other two) is illegal, so I would probably be rather concerned with that, yes.

But wealthy men marrying much younger trophy wives is not even slightly startling.

The person I feel bad for in all this is the girl's mother, who wanted her to stay in school. Sounds like she's been fighting the battle for a while.

575 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:22:37pm

re: #568 WindUpBird

If we all agreed to stop being tribalist based on skin color and cultural background at the same time, awesome!

But humans will never do that. At least not in our lifetimes.

Three to five more generations of cheap jet/ship travel should do it. About the time from emancipation to the voting rights act.

576 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:22:46pm

re: #568 WindUpBird

If we all agreed to stop being tribalist based on skin color and cultural background at the same time, awesome!

But humans will never do that. At least not in our lifetimes.

That would mean trolls like you would have to stop bringing up race all the time but I doubt you could handle that. Look in the mirror, you will find the real racist.

577 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:23:47pm

re: #570 HappyWarrior

We're forgettign another point here guys is that this is a nineteen year old woman. Not a girl but a woman. Yeah, it's creepy that he married a woman thirty years younger than him. Now, the article implies that they wanted to marry when she was seventeen which is still considered above the age of consent in a lot of states. I am not saying it's what I would have done or anything like that but it's not like he married a twelve year old.

She's still an idiot, but what can you do?

Wonder how long this marriage lasts.

578 Digital Display  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:24:13pm

good evening lizards! It's after 11pm in Oklahoma and I just got home from work...The Hoopster is making big bucks this month...I'm so tired..But keeping my eye on the prize.. At this rate I'm looking at buying an Audi A4 for Christmas...This is a hard month for me..
It don't come easy..You know it don't come easy

579 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:24:17pm

re: #570 HappyWarrior

About as gossipy interesting as the miner with a wife at home and a mistress at the rescue.

580 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:24:28pm

re: #574 SanFranciscoZionist

In Texas, marrying a third wife (while still married to the other two) is illegal, so I would probably be rather concerned with that, yes.

But wealthy men marrying much younger trophy wives is not even slightly startling.

The person I feel bad for in all this is the girl's mother, who wanted her to stay in school. Sounds like she's been fighting the battle for a while.

If my daughter did that I would be pretty pissed off. The AP didn't mention her father. I wonder if he isn't around.

581 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:24:45pm

re: #542 NJDhockeyfan

Here is a perfect example of what a troll does.

I'm not ABOUT to get in the middle of the lovers' spat playing out, but that's not trolling.

A true troll (and there are far fewer of them in the wild than is commonly thought) is an artist as well as a scientist. Merely being annoying, unpleasant, or taunting is not trolling. Real trolling is like throwing a spark on dry, flammable material and watching it quickly ignite. It is not like using a blowtorch over damp wood for hours to force it to ignite. A competent troll would compose a single exquisitely crafted post that would start a shitstorm, not by others reacting to the post itself, but by one non-troll person reacting to the troll post in a way that inadvertently inflames other non-trolls, at which point they go at each other and soon forget all about the original troll that lit the fuse. A failed troll would go around being unpleasant incessantly, mostly being ignored, and only on rare occasion getting an inflamed response purely due to volume.

We now return you to Klingon Divorce Court.

582 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:24:56pm

re: #578 HoosierHoops

Hello, hows Winston doing?

583 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:25:31pm

Be nice to each other.
Or at least try?
Goodnight, all.
Civilized discourse is better than nastiness,IMHO.

584 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:25:47pm

re: #581 negativ

We now return you to Klingon Divorce Court.


Lol.

585 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:26:08pm

re: #580 NJDhockeyfan

If my daughter did that I would be pretty pissed off. The AP didn't mention her father. I wonder if he isn't around.

He may think it's a great match. Who knows?

Now, Anna Nicole Smith married a man SIXTY-THREE years older than her.

586 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:26:20pm

re: #577 SanFranciscoZionist

She's still an idiot, but what can you do?

Wonder how long this marriage lasts.

Heh we have the right to be idiots. I agree with what you say too. I feel bad for the mother. I personally feel that early 20's is too early for marriage often but that's not my say.

587 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:26:28pm

re: #568 WindUpBird

If we all agreed to stop being tribalist based on skin color and cultural background at the same time, awesome!

But humans will never do that. At least not in our lifetimes.

Doesn't mean we should stop trying. We've come a long way since the '50s by saying fuck racism. Time for the next step, do away with the idea of different races.

588 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:26:59pm

re: #585 SanFranciscoZionist

I speed read that "SIXTY-THREE times older than her.

589 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:27:12pm

re: #585 SanFranciscoZionist

"I married a man 63 years old than me, and rich, and all I got was this lousy T-shirt"

590 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:27:24pm

re: #587 b_sharp

I saw a word for that.
Wevolve.

591 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:27:24pm

re: #579 Rightwingconspirator

About as gossipy interesting as the miner with a wife at home and a mistress at the rescue.

Yeah I mean I really don't give a shit one way or the other. If she wants to run her life by marrying some guy who just happens to be the president's half brother and is 30 years old she can go ahead but I really don't care. I do like SFZ feel bad for the mother since it is important to stay in school.

592 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:27:51pm

re: #586 HappyWarrior

Heh we have the right to be idiots. I agree with what you say too. I feel bad for the mother. I personally feel that early 20's is too early for marriage often but that's not my say.

Chassidic girls often get married these days at seventeen or eighteen. I grew up surrounded by Soviet emigres, and the women would often announce that they thought sixteen or seventeen was a perfect age to get married.

593 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:28:01pm

re: #585 SanFranciscoZionist

He may think it's a great match. Who knows?

Now, Anna Nicole Smith married a man SIXTY-THREE years older than her.

True but I think that was a little different than the teenager student.

594 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:28:08pm

re: #588 jaunte

I speed read that "SIXTY-THREE times older than her.

Maybe that too. The man was quite advanced in years.

595 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:28:41pm

re: #553 Jadespring

No grizzlies around here to worry about but if there were she'd stand up against them too. I saw video of several of these dogs facing off against a grizzly. It was incredible.

My ex once had a 40 lb. dog so ridiculously stupid that while out on a walk he decided it would be a real good idea to chaaaaarge! towards a cop riding a horse. Luckily for him, he didn't slip the leash.

596 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:29:05pm

re: #593 NJDhockeyfan

True but I think that was a little different than the teenager student.

19=Adult.

597 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:29:15pm

re: #571 theheat

O I C. I've seen Great Pyrenees before, but they didn't strike me as particularly aggressive - or that would stand up to a beat. I guess they are when they need to be!

Yeah they will. They were bred to protect sheep when out on range. Most people never see what they're capable of when the 'protect' instinct kicks in. Most of the time they are like big docile babies, especially when just as a regular house pet. They're like a lions secreted in fluffy teddy bear bodies. :)

When I was looking at the different breeds I read one account of a sheep herder who works with a pack of them. Two of them got into a scrap with another dog. Lasted less then a couple of minutes. When they rushed the dog to the vet the vet asked whether the car that hit the dog had stopped. The owners said no it was a dog fight but the vet wouldn't believe it because of the type of injuries. Broken bones and impact damage like a car does. So they aren't biters and tearers they're like linebackers.

I can believe it. My dog is quite playful and she will charge and bang into you. Even at four months it can knock you off balance.

598 Digital Display  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:29:16pm

re: #582 Rightwingconspirator

Hello, hows Winston doing?

He tripped when I walked in the door...16 hour days are hard for him also..
I can tell he misses me.....I'll spoil him in Nov.

599 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:29:49pm

re: #509 negativ

Here's Fox idiots trashing Mister Rogers, of all people:

[Video]And here's some awesome fair & balanced reporting.
(link to huge pic)

It wasn't even a study. He retracted the "comment":

Professor retracts Mr. Rogers smears.

Yesterday, ThinkProgress noted that Fox News was participating in an effort to “blame Mr. Rogers” for the “sense of entitlement” among some children today. The criticism of Mr. Rogers stemmed from Don Chance, a finance professor at Louisiana State University. Chance later contacted Fox News to issue a statement retracting his attacks:

The reference to Mr. Rogers was just a metaphor. I have no professional qualifications to evaluate the real problems or propose solutions. Mr. Rogers was a great American. I watched him with my children and wouldn’t hesitate to do so again if I had young children.

Chance’s lack of “professional qualifications” didn’t prevent from the mainstream media from catapulting his propaganda.

600 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:29:52pm

re: #592 SanFranciscoZionist

Chassidic girls often get married these days at seventeen or eighteen. I grew up surrounded by Soviet emigres, and the women would often announce that they thought sixteen or seventeen was a perfect age to get married.


I can't even imagine being in a serious romantic relationship at that age let alone getting hitched but then again I'm a very nomadic person.

601 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:32:18pm

re: #581 negativ

Zen and the Art of Trolling. You really should write that down somewhere.

602 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:32:47pm

re: #593 NJDhockeyfan

True but I think that was a little different than the teenager student.

More spectacular, maybe. A nineteen-year-old woman can marry any single man she wants in any state of the Union, and all the countries I know about where women can marry without family consent. This isn't a good decision, by my lights, but my GF who got married a couple weeks ago recalls how every girl in her high school wanted to be engaged by graduation, and then get married the summer after they got their high school diploma.

This is a dumb decision on this girl's part--maybe, I don't know her, or this man--but it's supremely mundane in the great scheme of things. She's not twelve and married against her will, which also happens all the time, and worries me far more.

603 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:34:49pm

re: #597 Jadespring

Sounds like a neat dog, and handy to have around. I've only ever seen them in the fields with sheep, but they were so quiet and peaceful it didn't give any indication they were very menacing. I figured maybe their size alone made them intimidating, but didn't figure them for being especially physical. Very interesting.

I've had terriers. I'm a terrier person. I'm an idiot.

604 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:35:09pm

re: #601 marjoriemoon

Zen and the Art of Trolling. You really should write that down somewhere.

Go to a Star Wars forum.
Say "Greedo Shot First!"
Get popcorn.
Watch fun.

605 Gus  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:35:10pm

Time to hit the hay.

Night all.

606 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:35:13pm

re: #600 HappyWarrior

I can't even imagine being in a serious romantic relationship at that age let alone getting hitched but then again I'm a very nomadic person.

The Soviets often got divorced young too--but the only way to get an apartment in the old USSR was to get married. No real way to shack up.

Marjane Satrapi got married at 21--her family wouldn't allow it earlier--partly because in Iran you just couldn't have a relationship outside marriage, and so people married quite young even in her family's educated and secular circles. Her father told them that he insisted that she have the right to divorce in the wedding documents, and told them to divorce when they no longer loved each other because life's too short.

607 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:35:51pm

re: #586 HappyWarrior

Heh we have the right to be idiots. I agree with what you say too. I feel bad for the mother. I personally feel that early 20's is too early for marriage often but that's not my say.

I was engaged at 19 and came close to getting married at 20. Luckily I didn't because it wouldn't have worked. My Mom said she was so relieved when we broke up even though she supported it at the time. She knew nothing she said would have changed my mind.

It wasn't so long ago that marriage at this age range was pretty common here as well. Not married by 25. Omg spinster old maid!! It's not even that uncommon now just way less common then it once was.

608 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:36:02pm

The Vermont governors debate is sure folksy.And the crazy is IN! One lady is proposing "home school" teachers get paid $10,000 per student up to 15. Heh. CSPAN

609 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:36:35pm

re: #605 Gus 802

Time to hit the hay.

Night all.

Good night Gus...

610 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:36:51pm

re: #587 b_sharp

Doesn't mean we should stop trying. We've come a long way since the '50s by saying fuck racism. Time for the next step, do away with the idea of different races.

Every single human has an African ancestor. If you want to use the metaphor, Adam and Eve were African, and most likely dark skinned. I wonder if that's part of the reason some people have such a hard time dealing with the concept of evolution.

611 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:37:21pm

re: #606 SanFranciscoZionist

The Soviets often got divorced young too--but the only way to get an apartment in the old USSR was to get married. No real way to shack up.

Marjane Satrapi got married at 21--her family wouldn't allow it earlier--partly because in Iran you just couldn't have a relationship outside marriage, and so people married quite young even in her family's educated and secular circles. Her father told them that he insisted that she have the right to divorce in the wedding documents, and told them to divorce when they no longer loved each other because life's too short.


Right, that makse sense. Marjane Satrapi? Is that the woman who wrote Persepolis? Saw that with my brother over the summer. Found it a very eye opening look at Iran.

612 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:37:21pm

re: #602 SanFranciscoZionist

More spectacular, maybe. A nineteen-year-old woman can marry any single man she wants in any state of the Union, and all the countries I know about where women can marry without family consent. This isn't a good decision, by my lights, but my GF who got married a couple weeks ago recalls how every girl in her high school wanted to be engaged by graduation, and then get married the summer after they got their high school diploma.

This is a dumb decision on this girl's part--maybe, I don't know her, or this man--but it's supremely mundane in the great scheme of things. She's not twelve and married against her will, which also happens all the time, and worries me far more.

I think what made this an AP story was she becoming his third wife. If she became his only wife I don't think it would have been considered newsworthy.

613 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:38:01pm

re: #612 NJDhockeyfan

I think what made this an AP story was she becoming his third wife. If she became his only wife I don't think it would have been considered newsworthy.

Even then, I still don't find it newsworthy.

614 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:38:04pm

Goodnight, all.

615 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:38:50pm

re: #612 NJDhockeyfan

I think what made this an AP story was she becoming his third wife. If she became his only wife I don't think it would have been considered newsworthy.

I think that this wouldn't have been an AP story if she were thirteen and his third wife--except that he is Barack Obama's half brother.

Such is fame.

I'm goin' to bed.

616 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:39:03pm

re: #607 Jadespring

I was engaged at 19 and came close to getting married at 20. Luckily I didn't because it wouldn't have worked. My Mom said she was so relieved when we broke up even though she supported it at the time. She knew nothing she said would have changed my mind.

It wasn't so long ago that marriage at this age range was pretty common here as well. Not married by 25. Omg spinster old maid!! It's not even that uncommon now just way less common then it once was.

Yeah I know marrying younger used to be much more common. People in my generation (Gen Y) are marrying older and older it seems.

617 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:39:11pm

Breaking
Ben Mitchell candidate for Governor of Vermont just promised not to invade New Hampshire.
ROFL

618 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:39:44pm

re: #608 Rightwingconspirator

Wow, that means they could birth a litter, and make more than teachers do homeskoolin the young'uns. You know, mo money the mo kids you got, kind of like those welfare mothers they despise.

619 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:40:16pm

re: #617 Rightwingconspirator

Breaking
Ben Mitchell candidate for Governor of Vermont just promised not to invade New Hampshire.
ROFL

What are they going to invade New Hampshire with, Ben and Jerry's ice cream to fatten up the New Hampshirites and then when they have tummy aches invade? Heh just joking around, I know nothing about this candidate.

620 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:40:24pm

re: #617 Rightwingconspirator

Breaking
Ben Mitchell candidate for Governor of Vermont just promised not to invade New Hampshire.
ROFL

Sounds like there's been a truce called!

621 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:40:32pm

re: #603 theheat

Sounds like a neat dog, and handy to have around. I've only ever seen them in the fields with sheep, but they were so quiet and peaceful it didn't give any indication they were very menacing. I figured maybe their size alone made them intimidating, but didn't figure them for being especially physical. Very interesting.

I've had terriers. I'm a terrier person. I'm an idiot.

No your not. Nothing wrong with terriers. :) They are what they are.
I got her for the soul purpose of living out with my animals and doing the type of work that her breeds were bred for. So she's not a pet like my other dogs that are lying around on the carpet right now.

622 prairiefire  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:42:37pm

Terriers are very cute and so...full of energy.

623 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:43:15pm

re: #619 HappyWarrior

What are they going to invade New Hampshire with, Ben and Jerry's ice cream to fatten up the New Hampshirites and then when they have tummy aches invade? Heh just joking around, I know nothing about this candidate.

We know one thing, he's not a good website designer:
[Link: www.myspace.com...]

624 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:43:23pm

re: #619 HappyWarrior

What are they going to invade New Hampshire with, Ben and Jerry's ice cream to fatten up the New Hampshirites and then when they have tummy aches invade? Heh just joking around, I know nothing about this candidate.

The comment came off a debate on their national guard. Returning the guard to Vermont is a big issue I guess. It's a twilight zone show.

625 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:44:29pm

re: #621 Jadespring

You know what's funny, is I'm not even a dog person. Not at all. But terriers seem more like cats. Sometimes dangerous, fixated, hyper, self-absorbed cats. And I like cats.

626 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:44:43pm

re: #623 jaunte

I hope Jon Stewart writers are watching this.

627 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:44:59pm

re: #616 HappyWarrior

Yeah I know marrying younger used to be much more common. People in my generation (Gen Y) are marrying older and older it seems.

Yep. I'm one of those. Even though I had and almost I didn't end up marrying until my mid 30's. I would have been fine not marrying as well but then someone just came a long and it just made sense. Only knew him for a few months too.

628 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:45:24pm

re: #623 jaunte

We know one thing, he's not a good website designer:
[Link: www.myspace.com...]

Can you say blandspace?

629 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:46:27pm

re: #617 Rightwingconspirator

Breaking
Ben Mitchell candidate for Governor of Vermont just promised not to invade New Hampshire.
ROFL

Lol what?

What context was this promise made in?

630 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:46:35pm

re: #628 HappyWarrior

"We need swimming trails in our lakes" "Swimmers do not have equal access to the lake surface as boats"
LOLOLOL

631 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:48:18pm

re: #630 Rightwingconspirator

"We need swimming trails in our lakes" "Swimmers do not have equal access to the lake surface as boats"
LOLOLOL

Swim trails, absolutely brilliant.

632 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:48:51pm

re: #629 Jadespring

Sorry It's hard to keep up. They were talking about bringing the guard home, and if the Gov has the authority to do so. Then the question went to that candidate and that was his opener for an answer. Dunno more.

633 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:48:52pm

re: #623 jaunte

We know one thing, he's not a good website designer:
[Link: www.myspace.com...]

Wow. Pretty psychedelic baby. What's up with the Bush/Kerry hug? Creepy weird.

634 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:48:59pm

re: #586 HappyWarrior

I personally feel that early 20's is too early for marriage

This times infinity.

635 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:49:53pm

re: #633 marjoriemoon

Yeah, I wondered about that. Odd third party differentiation, probably.

636 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:50:19pm

re: #623 jaunte

We know one thing, he's not a good website designer:
[Link: www.myspace.com...]

It physically hurts to look at it.

637 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:50:32pm

re: #633 marjoriemoon

Wow. Pretty psychedelic baby. What's up with the Bush/Kerry hug? Creepy weird.

I imagine it's his way of saying that the two parties are one and the same.

638 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:50:39pm

re: #633 marjoriemoon

Wow. Pretty psychedelic baby. What's up with the Bush/Kerry hug? Creepy weird.

CSPAN
Tune in folks. The hits keep coming

639 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:50:51pm

re: #632 Rightwingconspirator

Sorry It's hard to keep up. They were talking about bringing the guard home, and if the Gov has the authority to do so. Then the question went to that candidate and that was his opener for an answer. Dunno more.

Weird.

640 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:50:53pm

re: #635 jaunte

Yeah, I wondered about that. Odd third party differentiation, probably.

Ahhh... He seems to be running on the "Everybody must get stoned" platform.

641 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:51:07pm

Vermont/New Hampshire invasions predicted:

The emerald ash borer, an Asian insect that turned up in Detroit (probably stowed away on a shipping pallet) a mere eight years ago, seems intent on devouring every last ash in North America. The borers already have raced into western New York and southern Quebec, just 30 miles from the Vermont border and are poised to invade both Vermont and New Hampshire possibly within the next two years. [Link: northernwoodlands.org...]
642 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:51:18pm

re: #601 marjoriemoon

Zen and the Art of Trolling. You really should write that down somewhere.

Another way to put it: Trolling is like throwing a bone to a den of starving wolves, and watching as the last wolf standing realizes the bone was made of plastic.

643 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:51:26pm

re: #536 NJDhockeyfan

I saw it on Memorandum and posted it here. What the fuck? I post stories I see from news sites all the time. Why am I getting so much shit for this one?

Because it's irrelevant?

644 prairiefire  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:52:09pm

I wanted to find my husband in college. My college was very conservative, with a lot of music majors. I did not find a husband there.
I had wanted to be a mom since I was 9, I just had to wait awhile.

645 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:52:11pm

re: #578 HoosierHoops

good evening lizards! It's after 11pm in Oklahoma and I just got home from work...The Hoopster is making big bucks this month...I'm so tired..But keeping my eye on the prize.. At this rate I'm looking at buying an Audi A4 for Christmas...This is a hard month for me..
It don't come easy..You know it don't come easy

What?
An Audi?
Heretic!
*waves*

646 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:52:26pm

re: #623 jaunte

We know one thing, he's not a good website designer:
[Link: www.myspace.com...]

What a horrible site.

"I like music and poetry and my children and Kathy my amazing wife."

What a horrible writer.

647 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:52:42pm

re: #643 austin_blue

Because it's irrelevant?

Then ignore it.

648 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:53:58pm

re: #627 Jadespring

Yep. I'm one of those. Even though I had and almost I didn't end up marrying until my mid 30's. I would have been fine not marrying as well but then someone just came a long and it just made sense. Only knew him for a few months too.

I got married at 21. We're about to celebrate our 34th.

649 prairiefire  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:54:38pm

re: #648 b_sharp

I got married at 21. We're about to celebrate our 34th.

Congratulations! *hat tip*

650 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:54:44pm

re: #646 b_sharp

What a horrible site.

What a horrible writer.

"Free the people! Lock up the CEOs!"

That's not half bad! lol

Gawd, I love this country.

651 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:54:45pm

re: #630 Rightwingconspirator

"We need swimming trails in our lakes" "Swimmers do not have equal access to the lake surface as boats"
LOLOLOL

Huh?

652 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:55:20pm

re: #598 HoosierHoops

Ring, ring?

653 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:55:23pm

re: #646 b_sharp

He looks creepy. He could play the demented janitor in a slasher film. The one that kills all the frisky students on prom night. The one the neighbors say was "such a quiet man." That kind of creepy.

654 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:56:01pm

re: #648 b_sharp

I got married at 21. We're about to celebrate our 34th.

WOW, 34 years! That seems very rare these days. I'm at 18 years right now. I hope I make it as long as you.

655 prairiefire  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:56:32pm

The election is 18 days away. I can feel the kinetic energy in the air. Obama had better fight and fight hard.

656 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:57:37pm

re: #651 b_sharp

Yeah...
Direct quote from the Vermont govs debate. Somebody had to make the Tea Party EIPO's look good.

657 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:59:35pm

D.N.C. Spokesman’s Former Group Didn’t Disclose Donors Either

Brad Woodhouse, spokesman for the Democratic National Committee, is the latest ally of President Obama to go after the dangers of undisclosed money in the political process.

In a letter sent yesterday to editorial board members at news organizations across the country, Mr. Woodhouse excoriated the collection and use of the money in the current elections.

“Anonymous special interests and unnamed corporations are pouring tens of millions of dollars into electoral politics this fall, money that has the potential to tip the scales in close races across the country,” Mr. Woodhouse wrote in the letter. He lamented the “pernicious effects of secret, special interest money.”

But just a couple of years back, Mr. Woodhouse was the president of a political organization that took donations without disclosing the identities of the donors.

Hypocrisy anyone?

658 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:00:12pm

re: #648 b_sharp

I got married at 21. We're about to celebrate our 34th.

Wow! She put up with you for that long?? :>

On my second marriage. There won't be a #3. I don't think I'd have the strength to do it a third time.

659 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:00:20pm

re: #648 b_sharp

I got married at 21. We're about to celebrate our 34th.

That's wonderful. :)

We just celebrated 4 years last week but it feels like much longer but in a good way. It's weird but sometimes I forget that I wasn't with him before I was with him. I'll even say things like 'dear remember when I did x and this happened?" And he'll reply, "Um no I don't. I didn't know you then dear."

660 Digital Display  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:00:30pm

re: #645 Floral Giraffe

What?
An Audi?
Heretic!
*waves*

Hi You! Hope you are well...I figure at 12 to 16 hours a day for this month the beemer will be paid off..Yup..An Audi convertible by Christmas...I'm so tired tonight...And Nothing to eat tonight tonight..I should have gone to the store but I forgot.. There is Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches in the kitchen..Can you believe it?

661 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:00:43pm

re: #653 theheat

He looks creepy. He could play the demented janitor in a slasher film. The one that kills all the frisky students on prom night. The one the neighbors say was "such a quiet man." That kind of creepy.

I've said this before, but I have to repeat it: You guys have such interesting and weird politics.

662 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:01:51pm

re: #654 NJDhockeyfan

WOW, 34 years! That seems very rare these days. I'm at 18 years right now. I hope I make it as long as you.

It hasn't always been easy. I have no idea how we made it so far.

663 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:01:54pm

Fucking Yankees...

Oh, and the polling orgs are going batshit over the 25% of the population who don't have land lines. How to compensate? Nate's take:

[Link: fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com...]

664 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:02:07pm

re: #648 b_sharp

I got married at 21. We're about to celebrate our 34th.

Congrats!!
26 years for Dragon_Lady and I. Oh and both Los Angeles natives. Now that's the rare part. :)

665 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:02:48pm

re: #660 HoosierHoops

Get your ringer ready!
Don't want to scare Winston!

666 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:03:24pm

re: #661 b_sharp

Some of the head shots of the front runners look like people whose pictures you would see on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted list. Then, when they talk, it just gets stranger. You couldn't make up anything so freaky if you tried.

667 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:03:49pm

re: #660 HoosierHoops

Hi You! Hope you are well...I figure at 12 to 16 hours a day for this month the beemer will be paid off..Yup..An Audi convertible by Christmas...I'm so tired tonight...And Nothing to eat tonight tonight..I should have gone to the store but I forgot.. There is Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches in the kitchen..Can you believe it?

Always keep a block of Velveeta in the house. And Ramen. Emergency food.

668 theheat  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:04:45pm

Man, I need to nap. Good night, all.

669 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:05:47pm

re: #665 Floral Giraffe

Get your ringer ready!
Don't want to scare Winston!

You guys actually talk in meat space? Weird.

670 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:06:23pm

G'night pipples.

671 costly1960  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:13:15pm

Hola mi amigos!

672 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:15:23pm

The Guardian is still getting trickles.

I don't talk about "them" too much because quite frankly, they bore the hellouta me. But man, are they demented. I mean, is there some kind of prize for holding a grudge the longest?

673 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:16:02pm

re: #671 costly1960

Hello new one! Welcome.

674 costly1960  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:16:44pm

re: #673 Rightwingconspirator
Thanks!

675 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:17:21pm

re: #674 costly1960

What brings you to the Lizard Nation?

676 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:17:59pm

re: #675 Rightwingconspirator

What brings you to the Lizard Nation?

Just flew in, and boy are his/her arms tired.

677 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:18:31pm

re: #671 costly1960

Hola mi amigos!

Greetings to you. How are you this fine evening? er.. Como esta anoche?

678 costly1960  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:18:48pm

re: #675 Rightwingconspirator

the upcoming elections. I am new to politics but very passionate!

679 costly1960  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:19:39pm

re: #677 marjoriemoon
Thanks!

680 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:22:30pm

re: #678 costly1960

the upcoming elections. I am new to politics but very passionate!

Welcome.

681 costly1960  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:23:07pm

re: #680 Jadespring
Thank you.

682 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:23:10pm

re: #672 marjoriemoon

Geez still? Must be down to the stalkers and innocent bypassers by now.

683 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:23:52pm

re: #678 costly1960

So who is your favorite or least favorite candidate?

684 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:26:35pm

re: #656 Rightwingconspirator

Yeah...
Direct quote from the Vermont govs debate. Somebody had to make the Tea Party EIPO's look good.

One of the people in that Vermont governor debate is Dennis Steele, a secessionist. I've been watching this debate for 20 minutes and they are are terrible. Is this the best Vermont can find to run?

685 costly1960  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:27:45pm

re: #683 Rightwingconspirator

I don't know yet. Still learning.

686 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:28:21pm

re: #684 NJDhockeyfan

Boy we are saying that a lot this cycle.
A very unhealthy amount I think.

687 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:29:41pm

re: #686 Rightwingconspirator

Boy we are saying that a lot this cycle.
A very unhealthy amount I think.

The marijuana candidate was hilarious.

688 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:32:21pm

re: #672 marjoriemoon

The Guardian is still getting trickles.

I don't talk about "them" too much because quite frankly, they bore the hellouta me. But man, are they demented. I mean, is there some kind of prize for holding a grudge the longest?

Heh. The stalkers are persistent, yes? It's a shame, really. So much time and effort wasted on Islamophobia. And so much money and blood we have expended.

689 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:32:26pm

re: #687 NJDhockeyfan

The marijuana candidate was hilarious.

Paged under Entertainment

690 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:35:11pm

re: #508 NJDhockeyfan

It's news. If you are not happy with the story then complain to the AP.

The Associated Press contact page. It includes their address, phone number, and email address. Have at it!

Why did you choose that AP story? There are literally thousands of AP stories and you chose that one.

I'm fairly sure you don't link to every AP story. Fox News stories maybe, but not AP.

691 jaunte  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:35:37pm

Goodnight all.

This is an old saying, O Atula, this is not only of to-day:
'They blame him who sits silent, they blame him who speaks much, they also blame him who says little; there is no one on earth who is not blamed.'
– The Dhammapada

692 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:36:33pm

If there's any candidate running for any office anywhere who isn't obviously either inept, insane, demonstrably corrupt, or some permutation thereof, I'd like to know who it is.

693 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:37:48pm

re: #690 palomino

Why did you choose that AP story? There are literally thousands of AP stories and you chose that one.

I'm fairly sure you don't link to every AP story. Fox News stories maybe, but not AP.

I link to more AP stories than Fox News. Look it up and get over it.

694 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:39:13pm

re: #685 costly1960

I don't know yet. Still learning.

Okay, then. Reid or Angle?re: #692 negativ

If there's any candidate running for any office anywhere who isn't obviously either inept, insane, demonstrably corrupt, or some permutation thereof, I'd like to know who it is.

Bill White in the Texas Gov race. Actually quite sane, not corrupt, ept, and won't get within ten points of Governor Goodhair. It's Texas.

695 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:39:26pm

re: #692 negativ

If there's any candidate running for any office anywhere who isn't obviously either inept, insane, demonstrably corrupt, or some permutation thereof, I'd like to know who it is.

Vermont is winning the insanity candidate race. Check out this video...

696 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:40:01pm

re: #687 NJDhockeyfan

I thought O'Donnell was the real nut. Whew. That lady makes her look sane. She makes Angle look sane. Who makes Palin look good. Who makes Meg and Carly look freaking great. And I would not vote for any of them. Nor the Dem opposition so go figure. The top rung of this ladder is far short of the top of the wall so to speak.

697 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:40:50pm

re: #518 APox

Very astute post.

As for Maher, he hates all religions so much that he's happy to jump on the "muslims did it" bandwagon. Sometimes his skepticism and atheism are refreshing, and sometimes just over the top, like in this case.

698 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:44:04pm

re: #551 Rightwingconspirator

Okay time to roll one. Like minded folks meet me on the porch.

I'm there with you. But I gotta roll two---one for me, one for the wifey.

699 costly1960  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:45:14pm

re: #694 austin_blue
Not Reid.
He appears to be moderate but he follows Pelosi's lead and she is anything but moderate.

700 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:46:14pm

re: #694 austin_blue

Okay, then. Reid or Angle?re: #692 negativ

Bill White in the Texas Gov race. Actually quite sane, not corrupt, ept, and won't get within ten points of Governor Goodhair. It's Texas.

OK, I'll grant you that one. I'd vote for a box of broken crayons before I'd vote for Perry. I just love the fact that he's never had a private sector job in his entire life, but successfully campaigned against Kay Bailey Hutchinson on the platform that she was the "Washington establishment", while he was some kind of mavericky renegade outsider.

701 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:46:49pm

re: #699 costly1960

Not Reid.
He appears to be moderate but he follows Pelosi's lead and she is anything but moderate.

So, you'd go with the crazy nutter Angle?
Interesting.

702 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:47:29pm

re: #696 Rightwingconspirator

I thought O'Donnell was the real nut. Whew. That lady makes her look sane. She makes Angle look sane. Who makes Palin look good. Who makes Meg and Carly look freaking great. And I would not vote for any of them. Nor the Dem opposition so go figure. The top rung of this ladder is far short of the top of the wall so to speak.

You have a clear choice in Cali for either either Meg or Moonbeam. Not voting?

703 costly1960  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:47:46pm

re: #701 Varek Raith

I didn't say that now did I?

704 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:47:57pm

re: #555 APox

I would definitely agree that it is race baiting but I also think that if there was a story posted years back that Bush's brother married a teenager that I would probably be heralding it as evidence of what Texas culture is like.

I'm hyper-sensitive to race baiting with Obama because it is apparent that the extreme right is trying to set Obama as not one of us Americans, but still...

That's not what McCain wanted. He and some of his advisors had the class not to make Rev. Wright into a divisive "Obama hates America" issue.

But then came Palin, who immediately changed the tenor of the campaign in her first stump speech: "He just doesn't love America the way we do." Classic us vs. them xenophobic race baiting.

705 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:48:31pm

re: #699 costly1960

Not Reid.
He appears to be moderate but he follows Pelosi's lead and she is anything but moderate.

Ah. Teabagger mentality. Well done!

706 costly1960  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:51:02pm

re: #705 austin_blue

Wow. What an insulting post.
State your opinion...get insulted.
Well done!

707 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:51:32pm

re: #700 negativ

OK, I'll grant you that one. I'd vote for a box of broken crayons before I'd vote for Perry. I just love the fact that he's never had a private sector job in his entire life, but successfully campaigned against Kay Bailey Hutchinson on the platform that she was the "Washington establishment", while he was some kind of mavericky renegade outsider.

He's gunning for the Top Job in 2012, make no mistake.

Scary, innit?

708 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:53:41pm

re: #706 costly1960

Wow. What an insulting post.
State your opinion...get insulted.
Well done!

Teabagger mentality is an insult? It's what you *said*.

709 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:53:55pm

re: #703 costly1960

I didn't say that now did I?

No, you just kind of dodged it by saying "not Reid".
;)

710 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:55:09pm

re: #622 prairiefire

Terriers are very cute and so...full of energy.

So true. We just rescued a miniature Schnauzer, which is basically the Teutonic cousin of the terrier. Sometimes the little guy just hops so much it seems like he's wearing a jet pack. Very affectionate and loyal too.

711 costly1960  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:55:30pm

re: #708 austin_blue
I am sure you know perfectly well what "teabagger" means.
I stated MY opinion.
Apparently you don't like it.
I shall move on to other posters who like to debate and not insult.
thanks anyways.

712 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:56:23pm

re: #636 goddamnedfrank

It physically hurts to look at it.

I think he stole the Ben and Jerry's design for their flavor Whirled Peace.

713 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:56:34pm

re: #711 costly1960

I am sure you know perfectly well what "teabagger" means.
I stated MY opinion.
Apparently you don't like it.
I shall move on to other posters who like to debate and not insult.
thanks anyways.

Don't let them knock you down. Show some thick lizard scales and defeat them in the debate. ;)

714 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:57:13pm

re: #713 NJDhockeyfan

Don't let them knock you down. Show some thick lizard scales and defeat them in the debate. ;)

Silence!!!
:P

715 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:57:54pm

re: #714 Varek Raith

Silence!!!
:P

Oh, was that a secret?
;)

716 costly1960  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:58:47pm

re: #713 NJDhockeyfan

Well as someone who is new here, they sure try to make people feel unwelcome.
I find that strange.

717 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:00:00pm

re: #716 costly1960

Well as someone who is new here, they sure try to make people feel unwelcome.
I find that strange.

I'm to the point and blunt.
Nothing personal.
;)

718 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:01:18pm

re: #716 costly1960

Well as someone who is new here, they sure try to make people feel unwelcome.
I find that strange.

Give it back harder. LGF is a fun blog to debate on but you will be tested hard as a newbie. Most people on here are nice. Some of them will test you so 'man up'!

719 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:01:30pm

re: #693 NJDhockeyfan

I link to more AP stories than Fox News. Look it up and get over it.

But do you just randomly link to AP stories? Isn't there usually a reason you choose one over the other?

I'll try to find a way to get over it. Basil Hayden's Bourbon and a fatty will help.

But your defense of "just ignore it" is bullshit. If you want it ignored, don't post it. If you're gonna post it, defend it.

720 costly1960  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:01:56pm

Unemployment is at 10%
The deficit is over a trillion.
Businesses are not hiring.
Taxes are getting ready to go up.

So yeah, I guess I should just keep voting for the people who are in charge while this is going on.
Don't think so!

721 freetoken  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:02:51pm

re: #720 costly1960

Don't be surprised to be called on partisanship.

722 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:02:59pm

re: #719 palomino

But do you just randomly link to AP stories? Isn't there usually a reason you choose one over the other?

I'll try to find a way to get over it. Basil Hayden's Bourbon and a fatty will help.

But your defense of "just ignore it" is bullshit. If you want it ignored, don't post it. If you're gonna post it, defend it.

This discussion was over a while ago. Go find someone else to smack around.

723 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:03:50pm

re: #720 costly1960

Unemployment is at 10%
The deficit is over a trillion.
Businesses are not hiring.
Taxes are getting ready to go up.

So yeah, I guess I should just keep voting for the people who are in charge while this is going on.
Don't think so!


So, how are the Rs going to rectify this?

724 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:04:30pm

Later lizards. Have a great weekend!

725 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:04:50pm

re: #700 negativ

OK, I'll grant you that one. I'd vote for a box of broken crayons before I'd vote for Perry. I just love the fact that he's never had a private sector job in his entire life, but successfully campaigned against Kay Bailey Hutchinson on the platform that she was the "Washington establishment", while he was some kind of mavericky renegade outsider.

In 2015, when Perry finally leaves the TX governor's mansion, he will have been TX guv longer than FDR was president. There's nothing mavericky or un-establishment about that.

726 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:04:51pm

re: #724 NJDhockeyfan

Later lizards. Have a great weekend!

Laterz.
:)

727 costly1960  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:05:46pm

re: #723 Varek Raith
I am not sure. But i think things would be better without the dems being in control of Congress.
They have been in control for the last 6 years and the economy sucks.

728 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:08:50pm

re: #707 austin_blue

He's gunning for the Top Job in 2012, make no mistake.

Scary, innit?

His problem is the same as Jeb Bush's. The country doesn't really want a third Bush presidency in 20 years. Likewise, being governor of TX (and Bush's almost handpicked successor) just doesn't have a winning ring to it.

Perry also has problems that Jeb doesn't, like being a real dumbass.

729 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:08:55pm

re: #712 palomino

I think he stole the Ben and Jerry's design for their flavor Whirled Peace.

I blacked out there for a minute.

730 costly1960  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:09:26pm

re: #721 freetoken
It's not partisan to say the Reid is easily lead by Pelosi. He was elected as a moderate and governs as a far leftist imo.
Don't run as a moderate if that is not what you are.

And Congress should not push through things that most Americans don't want. Most Americans want healthcare reform, but they certainly didn't want the disasterous piece of crap that was passed.
Congress should have to read and understand a bill before they pass it.

731 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:09:53pm

re: #716 costly1960

Well as someone who is new here, they sure try to make people feel unwelcome.
I find that strange.

Well, you know what they say: "politics ain't beanbag."

732 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:10:31pm

re: #711 costly1960

I am sure you know perfectly well what "teabagger" means.
I stated MY opinion.
Apparently you don't like it.
I shall move on to other posters who like to debate and not insult.
thanks anyways.

Okay, then. Why would you support a candidate that would force a rape victim to not have access to an abortion, and supports privatizing Medicare and phasing out Social Security? She's also a climate change denier who wants to outlaw alcohol.

She's a nutcase extraordinaire!

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

I'm not insulting you, I'm just trying to figure out how you could support such a head case!

Please respond. We like an open discussion, here.

733 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:11:41pm

re: #722 NJDhockeyfan

This discussion was over a while ago. Go find someone else to smack around.

Who made you the referee who gets to decide when discussions are over? Just because you got your brains beaten out over it doesn't make it over for me.

734 costly1960  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:12:43pm

re: #732 austin_blue
Well if you would go back to my first post, I said I am new at politics.
I don't know much about angle and never said I would support her.
I have however, heard of Reid.
And I don't like him

735 freetoken  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:14:30pm

re: #730 costly1960

It's not partisan to say the Reid is easily lead by Pelosi. He was elected as a moderate and governs as a far leftist imo.
Don't run as a moderate if that is not what you are.

Reid is the majority leader of the 59 Democratic party Senators. Are you saying he doesn't usually reflect the consensus opinion of his caucus?

736 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:17:25pm

re: #720 costly1960

Unemployment is at 10%
The deficit is over a trillion.
Businesses are not hiring.
Taxes are getting ready to go up.

So yeah, I guess I should just keep voting for the people who are in charge while this is going on.
Don't think so!

Do you realize any of the following?

Most of the increase in the unemployment rate happened while Bush was still prez.

The CBO projections for 2009 deficit were for 1 trillion+. These projections were made before Obama took office and would have applied to McCain as well; such is the nature of huge structural deficits.

Taxes haven't gone up. If you're so sure they're about to, you must have a crystal ball. They probably should go up, as a balanced budget is nearly impossible without tax hikes. But with gop majorities in congress, there's no chance of tax hikes. It's the one campaign promise they have to keep because they haven't put much else on the table.

737 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:18:06pm

re: #716 costly1960

Well as someone who is new here, they sure try to make people feel unwelcome.
I find that strange.

illegitimi non carborundum.

It's just a bunch of pixels. Nothing to get hung about.

Image: computer_problems.png

Image: internet-serious-business-cat.jpg

738 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:18:39pm

re: #734 costly1960

Well if you would go back to my first post, I said I am new at politics.
I don't know much about angle and never said I would support her.
I have however, heard of Reid.
And I don't like him

Ah, ah, ah. Don't try to crawfish at this point, newbie. You better come here with facts to back up how you "feel". You said you couldn't vote for Reid.

QED, you supported Angle. Watch what you post. Be consistent. Or you will get slapped upside the head on a consistent basis. This site is anti-idiotarian. You'll find out real quick what that means unless you think before you post.

739 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:19:29pm

re: #727 costly1960

I am not sure. But i think things would be better without the dems being in control of Congress.
They have been in control for the last 6 years and the economy sucks.

There's a fairly good chance that the economy would still suck and got to the suckage no matter who was in charge, especially since many of the reasons it sucks are outside of any one parties or political purvue and/or were set in motion at times when different sides were in charge(like various financial regs that came in under both parties over the past few decades). And you'll find people on all sides supporting or not supporting (at one time or another) policies and strategies that mushed together and led to the suckage. Of course each side will argue that it's the other guy or gal is more at fault and blame who ever is in charge at the time it happened but that's politics. Sorting through the mess is the fun part. The current suckage is a result of a lot longer then 6 years of one particular parties rule. Some of the strings go back through several administrations.

740 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:21:28pm

re: #739 Jadespring

There's a fairly good chance that the economy would still suck and got to the suckage no matter who was in charge, especially since many of the reasons it sucks are outside of any one parties or political purvue and/or were set in motion at times when different sides were in charge(like various financial regs that came in under both parties over the past few decades). And you'll find people on all sides supporting or not supporting (at one time or another) policies and strategies that mushed together and led to the suckage. Of course each side will argue that it's the other guy or gal is more at fault and blame who ever is in charge at the time it happened but that's politics. Sorting through the mess is the fun part. The current suckage is a result of a lot longer then 6 years of one particular parties rule. Some of the strings go back through several administrations.

QFT.

741 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:22:40pm

re: #730 costly1960

It's not partisan to say the Reid is easily lead by Pelosi. He was elected as a moderate and governs as a far leftist imo.
Don't run as a moderate if that is not what you are.

And Congress should not push through things that most Americans don't want. Most Americans want healthcare reform, but they certainly didn't want the disasterous piece of crap that was passed.
Congress should have to read and understand a bill before they pass it.

40% of Americans support the HCR bill. Many of the 50% who don't think it should have gone farther. (As always 10% aren't sure.) So your assertion that "most Americans don't want it" sounds good but isn't really accurate.

As for bills passed, most are hundreds of pages. Many are thousands of pages. Members of both parties routinely vote for bills they haven't fully read. You really think that all supporters of the Patriot Act or the Medicare Rx plan read and understood every word?

742 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:23:27pm

re: #739 Jadespring

How's the arm?

743 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:24:53pm

re: #742 Varek Raith

How's the arm?

It's fine. Just a minor boo boo. I'm laughing about it now. I realize it must have looked like a really bad slapstick comedy when it happened.

744 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:25:51pm

re: #743 Jadespring

It's fine. Just a minor boo boo. I'm laughing about it now. I realize it must have looked like a really bad slapstick comedy when it happened.

I still say it was the cat.
Devious, they are!
Mine almost tripped me down the stairs this morning.
*Shakes head*

745 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:26:15pm

You know what? A late night Guinness tastes damned good.

Drink your bread!

746 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:26:18pm

re: #727 costly1960

I am not sure. But i think things would be better without the dems being in control of Congress.
They have been in control for the last 6 years and the economy sucks.

They've been in control FOUR years, not SIX. And did Pres. Bush have nothing to do with the economy sucking?

Both parties deserve some blame, as does some of the rest of the world, the banks, the system itself, etc.

747 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:26:57pm

re: #729 goddamnedfrank

I blacked out there for a minute.


[Video]

I love those giant bug eyes. Kinda like anime.

748 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:28:43pm

re: #746 palomino

They've been in control FOUR years, not SIX. And did Pres. Bush have nothing to do with the economy sucking?

Both parties deserve some blame, as does some of the rest of the world, the banks, the system itself, etc.

Not Canada!

749 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:29:26pm

re: #748 Jadespring

Not Canada!

ZOMG, who let Canadians post here?!?!
/

750 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:29:47pm

re: #749 Varek Raith

ZOMG, who let Canadians post here?!?!
/

:p

751 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:30:29pm

re: #750 Jadespring

:p

French Canadian?
:P

752 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:30:57pm

re: #749 Varek Raith

ZOMG, who let Canadians post here?!?!
/

Better get used it. We're planning our takeover. Our dollar is almost there!

753 palomino  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:31:17pm

re: #748 Jadespring

Not Canada!

Definitely not Canada. Somehow those crazy dangerous radicals managed to keep their economy afloat AND provide health care.

754 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:33:02pm

re: #752 Jadespring

Better get used it. We're planning our takeover. Our dollar is almost there!

One thing that's been bothering me...
Image: sp-canada-on-strike.jpg
Just how the hell is half of your head not attached?!!?
/

755 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:33:17pm

re: #753 palomino

Definitely not Canada. Somehow those crazy dangerous radicals managed to keep their economy afloat AND provide health care.

Yeah. I still haven't quite figured out exactly why or how. Number of different factors at play. Overall, relative to most everywhere else we've weathered this pretty well.

756 Usually refered to as anyways  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:33:23pm

re: #752 Jadespring

Better get used it. We're planning our takeover. Our dollar is almost there!

No we are...
Australian dollar hits parity with greenback

You will all be riding kangaroos and drinking xxxx.

And we will eat your unicorns.

757 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:34:25pm

re: #756 ozbloke

No we are...
Australian dollar hits parity with greenback

You will all be riding kangaroos and drinking xxx.

And we will eat your unicorns.

Bring it on, you...uh...dammit, I don't know any Aussie insults!
:)

758 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:34:31pm

re: #745 austin_blue

You know what? A late night Guinness tastes damned good.

Drink your bread!

Little known fact: a pint of Guinness contains fewer calories, fewer carbs, and slightly less alcohol by volume than a pint of Budweiser.

759 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:35:24pm

re: #755 Jadespring

Yeah. I still haven't quite figured out exactly why or how. Number of different factors at play. Overall, relative to most everywhere else we've weathered this pretty well.

It's the poutine, a country that can love that can do anything.

760 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:35:44pm

re: #756 ozbloke

No we are...
Australian dollar hits parity with greenback

You will all be riding kangaroos and drinking xxx.

And we will eat your unicorns.

Ha! You can get them from the south, we'll come from the north, meet in the middle and have an awesome BBQ. I'll bring the back bacon, maple syrup and the poutine. We have pretty good beer too.

761 freetoken  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:35:55pm

re: #756 ozbloke

And we will eat your unicorns.

They found some?

762 Usually refered to as anyways  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:37:16pm

re: #757 Varek Raith

Bring it on, you...uh...dammit, I don't know any Aussie insults!
:)

I'll help,

May your chooks turn into emus and knock your dunny door down.

Dunny = Toilet

763 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:37:51pm

In all seriousness though while parity is great when I want to buy something from or visit the US it seriously screws with both our economies, especially in the manufacturing and resource sector.

764 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:38:41pm

re: #757 Varek Raith

Bring it on, you...uh...dammit, I don't know any Aussie insults!
:)

Call him a Kiwi.......

765 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:38:47pm

re: #763 Jadespring

In all seriousness though while parity is great when I want to buy something from or visit the US it seriously screws with both our economies, especially in the manufacturing and resource sector.

Economics makes mah haid hert.

766 freetoken  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:38:53pm

BTW, today was the day Helicopter Ben made his big speech - the purpose of which was to announce the Fed's will to expand the money supply as needed (and therefore cause inflation.)

Thus some movement on the FOREX, but most traders already knew this was coming so it had already been factored in to much of the machinations.

767 freetoken  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:39:20pm

re: #763 Jadespring

Ben's doing it on purpose.

768 Usually refered to as anyways  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:39:42pm

re: #745 austin_blue

You know what? A late night Guinness tastes damned good.

Drink your bread!

Streuth austin_blue, pass me a beer, I'm as dry as a dead dingo's donger.

769 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:43:56pm

re: #755 Jadespring

Yeah. I still haven't quite figured out exactly why or how. Number of different factors at play. Overall, relative to most everywhere else we've weathered this pretty well.

Tightly controlled banks. Not that difficult.

770 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:44:06pm

re: #766 freetoken

BTW, today was the day Helicopter Ben made his big speech - the purpose of which was to announce the Fed's will to expand the money supply as needed (and therefore cause inflation.)

Thus some movement on the FOREX, but most traders already knew this was coming so it had already been factored in to much of the machinations.

Okay I'm out of it(it's 3am). Who is Helicopter Ben?

771 Varek Raith  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:44:40pm

re: #770 Jadespring

Okay I'm out of it(it's 3am). Who is Helicopter Ben?

Image: bernanke-helicopter.jpg

772 Usually refered to as anyways  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:45:59pm

re: #761 freetoken

They found some?


[Video]

That link don't work for me, but if its about green alligators and long-necked geese, we'll eat them too.

773 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:46:39pm

re: #769 austin_blue

Tightly controlled banks. Not that difficult.

Yes that is definitely a large part of it. Our banks weren't able to do some of the things that US banks and financial institutions were. At times in the past they wanted to and tried to get some of the same types of regs implemented but the government(s) of the day didn't go for it. (Thank goodness)

774 freetoken  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:47:24pm

re: #770 Jadespring

Okay I'm out of it(it's 3am). Who is Helicopter Ben?

To whom you must listen:

[Link: www.federalreserve.gov...]

Professor Hamilton of UCSD, who also spoke, is interviewed here:

[Link: www.cnbc.com...]

775 freetoken  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:48:34pm

re: #772 ozbloke

That link don't work for me, but if its about green alligators and long-necked geese, we'll eat them too.

Sorry about that; it works for me - you might have to reload.

Yes, gators and geese are on the menu, too.

776 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:48:35pm

re: #756 ozbloke

No we are...
Australian dollar hits parity with greenback

You will all be riding kangaroos and drinking xxx.

And we will eat your unicorns.

I like Brizzie's Four X bitter. Stubbies for all!

777 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:49:39pm

re: #774 freetoken

To whom you must listen:

]

Do I really have to?

778 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:50:21pm

And now for something completely different.

779 freetoken  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:52:56pm

re: #777 Jadespring

Do I really have to?

You have no choice.

780 Usually refered to as anyways  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:53:58pm

re: #776 austin_blue

I like Brizzie's Four X bitter. Stubbies for all!

Actually, Tooheys new for me

781 Jadespring  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:54:26pm

re: #779 freetoken

You have no choice.


Yes...I have no choic.....


Hey keep your Jedi mind tricks out of my head buster!! I'm onto you.

782 Usually refered to as anyways  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:56:05pm

re: #780 ozbloke

Actually, Tooheys new for me

One more, why not...
Tooheys New

783 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:57:30pm

re: #778 negativ

And now for something completely different.


[Video]

Good gawd, that's lovely! What the hell is that instrument on the left? A twelve string synthesizer?

784 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 12:05:29am

re: #783 austin_blue

Good gawd, that's lovely! What the hell is that instrument on the left? A twelve string synthesizer?

Behold, the Chapman Stick.

Star Wars cantina music on Chapman Stick:

King Crimson, Elephant Talk

Inventor of the thing explains it:

785 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 12:06:30am

Well I'm heading off. 3am and all. I do have to get up at some point tomorrow.

786 austin_blue  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 12:09:47am

re: #784 negativ

Behold, the Chapman Stick.

Star Wars cantina music on Chapman Stick:

King Crimson, Elephant Talk

Inventor of the thing explains it:

[Video]

With Frippertronics! Outstanding!

787 austin_blue  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 12:12:56am

And I am out of here! Good night all. Sweet dreams.

788 palomino  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 12:47:06am

re: #755 Jadespring

Yeah. I still haven't quite figured out exactly why or how. Number of different factors at play. Overall, relative to most everywhere else we've weathered this pretty well.

Might have something to do with stricter, smarter banking regulations. But I'm no expert.

789 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 12:47:39am

Hey you guys!

Hey, guys?

..
.
guys?

790 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 1:15:33am

re: #789 negativ

Hey you guys!

Hey, guys?

..
.
guys?

oblivion.

791 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 1:16:16am

re: #784 negativ

Also, i'm glad someone here besides me and charles owns albums performed on a chapman stick

792 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 1:18:25am

re: #758 negativ

Little known fact: a pint of Guinness contains fewer calories, fewer carbs, and slightly less alcohol by volume than a pint of Budweiser.

Dude, you watch yourself around the guinness
just when you think you know your guinness?

[Link: www.ratebeer.com...]

It turns on you :D

793 freetoken  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 1:22:57am
794 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 1:25:15am

re: #793 freetoken

this is like five times as sophisticated as I am :D

It makes me want to go find work at a french comic book publisher

795 freetoken  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 1:28:31am

re: #794 WindUpBird

Oh... ok.... how about something a bit more ... provincial:

796 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 1:29:30am

re: #795 freetoken

flashback to sci-fi con filk sessions in 1999!

797 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 1:31:41am

re: #795 freetoken

I pretty much never regularly listen to anything that isn't considered "rock" or "jazz fusion that's all about how awesome the drummer is" or "weirdo electronic music" so I'm in uncharted territory here :D

798 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 1:35:13am
799 freetoken  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 1:44:49am

re: #797 WindUpBird

Well, if folk music is still too artsy, we can always up this piece (complete with obvious drum, electronic instruments) of "uncharted territory":

800 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 2:04:07am

Wow. The last headline was dramatic. Wanna bet who will meet my front yard should it come to that?

801 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 2:24:31am

I generally don't visit previous threads, but did tonight. Got a down ding from the owner, Maybe not the first time and surely not the last, but the first time I have seen.

802 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 2:37:32am

bbiab

803 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 3:00:59am

re: #800 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wow. The last headline was dramatic. Wanna bet who will meet my front yard should it come to that?


I'm sorry, but-- as usual-- I don't understand what you're saying here.

Could you clarify?

804 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 3:08:57am

re: #799 freetoken

it's not that folk music is too artsy, it's that I have no way of relating to most of it o_o

805 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 3:11:49am

re: #576 NJDhockeyfan

That would mean trolls like you would have to stop bringing up race all the time but I doubt you could handle that. Look in the mirror, you will find the real racist.

Well done, sir!

I applaud you!

806 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 3:18:00am

re: #804 WindUpBird

Well, check these:

807 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 3:27:30am

And for an American one, Down in the Valley:

For your benefit, presented in the context of Stir Crazy:

808 researchok  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 3:39:48am

Good morning!

809 deranged cat  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 4:13:48am

re: #808 researchok

ive always wondered if people are on LGF this late. well. GOOD NIGHT!

810 researchok  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 4:14:57am

re: #809 deranged cat

ive always wondered if people are on LGF this late. well. GOOD NIGHT!

LGF is like 7/11- always here.

811 wee fury  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 4:19:42am

Until I get back from a trip -- have fun!

812 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 4:25:34am

re: #809 deranged cat

ive always wondered if people are on LGF this late. well. GOOD NIGHT!

Morning shift starting in Central Time.

813 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 4:26:54am

Good Morning Lizards!

Today a Will Rogers' quote before I head for the commissary.

Ancient Rome declined because it had a Senate; now what's going to happen to us with both a Senate and a House? Will Rogers

814 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 4:47:14am

re: #810 researchok

I went to a store; sign on the door said 'Open 24 Hours'. Guy was locking up the place. I said, "Hey, the sign says you're open 24 hours." The guys looked at me and said, "Not in a row."
-Steven Wright

815 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 4:47:18am

Morning All.

Has anyone been following the foreclosure debacle of late? I read this story yesterday:

Mortgage Damage Spreads
Big Bank Stocks Hit Again as Modern Finance Collides With the Legal System
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

The banks are saying it's only going to take a few months to get the situation under control, it's all fine just a matter of not taking their time with the paperwork. Sounds good until you read these:

Foreclosure Fraud: It's Worse Than You Think
[Link: www.cnbc.com...]

Josh Rosner: “Could Violations of PSA’s Dwarf Lehman Weekend?”
[Link: www.nakedcapitalism.com...]

Don't Listen To Me, Listen to Legal Experts
[Link: market-ticker.org...]


It appears that in many instances during the mortgage securitization process over the past few years, the paperwork was not properly transferred. If the paperwork was not transferred in the legally required manner, it raises questions not only about who owns the mortgages in question but also about the validity and tax exempt status of the trusts in which the mortgages reside.
.......
In his best case scenario, these issues are deemed merely technical in nature and are successfully resolved but it takes at least year to do so and all foreclosures are delayed by at least a year. Levitin disputed the claim by banks that these issues can be resolved in a month or so and attributed the banks’ claims to “legal posturing.” In the medium case scenario, litigation ensues and it takes years to sort out these matters. In the worst case scenario, the aforementioned issues become a “systemic problem” which causes the mortgage market to grind to a halt as title insurers refuse to insure mortgages involving existing homes.

It looks to me like the mortgage industry is based on piles of what could turn out to be worthless paper with no one being able to prove who actually owns the home or who is actually entitled to collect on the mortgages. This could turn out to be incredibly ugly.

816 researchok  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 4:50:20am

re: #815 RogueOne

Morning All.

Has anyone been following the foreclosure debacle of late? I read this story yesterday:

Mortgage Damage Spreads
Big Bank Stocks Hit Again as Modern Finance Collides With the Legal System
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

The banks are saying it's only going to take a few months to get the situation under control, it's all fine just a matter of not taking their time with the paperwork. Sounds good until you read these:

Foreclosure Fraud: It's Worse Than You Think
[Link: www.cnbc.com...]

Josh Rosner: “Could Violations of PSA’s Dwarf Lehman Weekend?”
[Link: www.nakedcapitalism.com...]

Don't Listen To Me, Listen to Legal Experts
[Link: market-ticker.org...]

It looks to me like the mortgage industry is based on piles of what could turn out to be worthless paper with no one being able to prove who actually owns the home or who is actually entitled to collect on the mortgages. This could turn out to be incredibly ugly.

Lawyer friend of mine told me this will really blow up after the election.

There are cases in Florida where lawyers who saw property they liked foreclosed on faked and forged documents and then ended up with the properties themselves.

Thousands upon thousands of properties are involved.

817 researchok  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 4:54:30am

re: #815 RogueOne

Check this out- just the tip of the iceberg.

818 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 4:57:30am

re: #816 researchok

That's probably why they tried to sneak in that "fix" last week, if they don't change the rules retroactively to cover the banks asses over the last few years it could all blow up on us.

My spouse worked for a title company for awhile. We were talking about this current mess and she pointed out that there are dozens and dozens of rules that had to be complied with at the time of sale or else it wasn't actually considered sold, both at the initial sale and when the bank turned around and sold mortgages to other banks. If the current mortgage holder can't prove that chain of custody (for lack of a better term) then how are they going to determine who actually owns the properties?

Another story in the NY Times:

Avoid Foreclosure Market Until the Dust Settles
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

I've been looking at properties over the last month or so, now I'm thinking it's best to wait for a bit.

819 researchok  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 4:57:33am

re: #815 RogueOne

See this, too.

It offers a good overview of real fraud.

I suspect my friend is right. After the election, this will blow up.

820 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 4:59:34am

re: #818 RogueOne

I'd wait... I don't take third-party post-dated checks either.

821 researchok  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 5:00:14am

re: #818 RogueOne

That's probably why they tried to sneak in that "fix" last week, if they don't change the rules retroactively to cover the banks asses over the last few years it could all blow up on us.

My spouse worked for a title company for awhile. We were talking about this current mess and she pointed out that there are dozens and dozens of rules that had to be complied with at the time of sale or else it wasn't actually considered sold, both at the initial sale and when the bank turned around and sold mortgages to other banks. If the current mortgage holder can't prove that chain of custody (for lack of a better term) then how are they going to determine who actually owns the properties?

Another story in the NY Times:

Avoid Foreclosure Market Until the Dust Settles
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

I've been looking at properties over the last month or so, now I'm thinking it's best to wait for a bit.

There are two stories here- the first is representative of your wife's experience and a system not capable of dealing with the volume.

The second story is about the out and out fraud and how properties were deliberately stolen by way of forged documents and fraudulent court filings.

822 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 5:05:04am

re: #821 researchok

The second story is about the out and out fraud and how properties were deliberately stolen by way of forged documents and fraudulent court filings.

"How many yachts can you water ski behind?"
-Wall Street

823 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 5:08:31am

re: #817 researchok

Check this out- just the tip of the iceberg.

What a bottom-feeder. You would think supplying forged documents to the court would earn him a ban not just a "rebuke"

824 researchok  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 5:09:43am

re: #823 RogueOne

What a bottom-feeder. You would think supplying forged documents to the court would earn him a ban not just a "rebuke"

Political contributions- at least according to my friend.

825 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 5:09:52am

re: #816 researchok

Lawyer friend of mine told me this will really blow up after the election.

There are cases in Florida where lawyers who saw property they liked foreclosed on faked and forged documents and then ended up with the properties themselves.

Thousands upon thousands of properties are involved.

I am as scared of this as I have ever been of anything.

826 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 5:10:26am

re: #820 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'd wait... I don't take third-party post-dated checks either.

It kind of hurts my feelings. I found a very nice property with a big metal barn and almost 20 acres dirt cheap. I'm not quite ready to make the leap but I didn't want to pass up the opportunity, now I'm taking a big step back. I can wait.

827 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 5:11:17am

re: #825 Taqyia2Me

I am as scared of this as I have ever been of anything.

It's never been this bad. I'm afraid. ™

828 researchok  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 5:11:56am

re: #825 Taqyia2Me

I am as scared of this as I have ever been of anything.

I hear that.

No one knows what documents are out there, who generated them and when they were generated.

This can and will come back and bite people in the ass when they try and sell their homes (as in unknown liens filed with the court).

829 researchok  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 5:12:45am

re: #826 RogueOne

It kind of hurts my feelings. I found a very nice property with a big metal barn and almost 20 acres dirt cheap. I'm not quite ready to make the leap but I didn't want to pass up the opportunity, now I'm taking a big step back. I can wait.

Pay for due diligence that includes a search for liens.

830 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 5:13:27am

re: #828 researchok

OTOH, I'm tempted to go find out if my mortgage company can prove they own my home. Show Me The Note! I want my money back!

831 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 5:16:05am

re: #824 researchok

Political contributions- at least according to my friend.

It looks like his troubles go back over a decade and yet they still let him rake in money. It takes money to make money and it takes money to get you out of the trouble you got in while making the money.....or something.

832 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 5:17:46am

re: #829 researchok

Pay for due diligence that includes a search for liens.

It's a short sale. The property is worth 2 to 3x what the bank wants to settle. It's a county away from where I am now but it's closer to Indy where I do 70% of my business.

833 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 5:18:05am

re: #829 researchok

I'm not sure that would work right now.

834 researchok  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 5:19:29am

re: #833 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm not sure that would work right now.

Understood.

The RE market now is precarious in more ways than one, for sure.

835 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 5:21:06am

re: #834 researchok

Understood.

The RE market now is precarious in more ways than one, for sure.

I think the banks know what's coming and that's why they've been so reluctant to loan out any money. They're hoarding waiting for this mess to blow up and hoping they have enough money stashed away to ride it out.

836 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 5:43:36am

We're all screwed....

Punk Rock Song:

837 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 5:48:52am

Bitch, We Got A Problem

838 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 5:52:25am

Watching Woody Allen's "Bananas".

Howard Cosell's interviewing the president of San Marcos, after his assassination.

Nice opening.

Never seen it.

839 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 6:03:02am

This is my first off-year election cycle on LGF. Any old-timers know just how we react to the state-level action without the focus of a presidential race? Are the prominent debate liveblogs as hot as it gets?

840 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 6:07:27am

re: #839 Decatur Deb

Good question. In Indiana the only question still up in the air is how long it will take for the races to get called. The DNC has already stopped funding some races and the race for the Bayh seat is already over before the voting begins.

841 Sionainn  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 6:15:32am

re: #830 RogueOne

OTOH, I'm tempted to go find out if my mortgage company can prove they own my home. Show Me The Note! I want my money back!

Me, too. When we purchased this home three years ago, we put down more in cash than what the home is currently worth, and still have a mortgage. Unfortunately, since the mortgage didn't go through a bunch of hands, I doubt that the paperwork got lost or that stuff is missing. *sigh*

842 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 6:16:12am

re: #840 RogueOne

I'm thinking most of our comment traffic will hit in the days after election day. It'll take some time to digest so many outcomes.

843 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 6:17:13am

re: #841 Sionainn

It's always worth a shot to try to stick it to the man!/

My mortgage has been sold 3 times in 12 years.

844 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 6:23:05am

re: #843 RogueOne

But, THE MAN&trade needs his yachts!

845 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 6:23:29am

re: #844 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Special characters suck when you do them wrong.

846 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 6:23:45am

&trade

847 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 6:23:53am

re: #846 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

GAH!

848 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 6:41:59am

re: #836 RogueOne

Cold concrete apartments
Rise up from wet black asphalt
Below them a few carcasses
Of the long gone age of privacy

It takes a scary kind of illness
To design a place like this for pay
Downtown's an endless generic mall
Of video games and fast food chains

One by one
The little houses are bricked up and condemned
A subtle hint to move
Before the rats move in

This could be anywhere
This could be everywhere

Those new kids at school seem cool
But dad says not to talk to them
Stick to your old friends
They're not our kind
So now there's lots of fights

So many people I know
Come of age tense and bitter-eyed
Can't create so they just destroy
C'mon!
Let's set someone's dog on fire

Empty plastic
Culture slum suburbia
Is a war zone now
Sprouting the kinds of gangs
We thought we'd left behind

This could be anywhere
This could be everywhere

Kids at school are taking sides
Along color and uniform lines
My dad's gone and bought a gun
He says he's fed up
With crime in this town

This could be anywhere
This could be everywhere
This could be anywhere
This could be everywhere
Anywhere
Everywhere
I hope I'm gone before it explodes

I linger late at night
Waiting for the bus
No amount of neon jazz
Could hide the oozing vibes of death
My dad's a vigilante now
He's bringing home these weird-ass friends
Like the guy who fires blanks at his TV
When Kojak's on
Or the guy who shows off his submachine gun
To his sixteen-year-old daughter's friends
Whose sense of pride and hope
Is being in the police reserve

This could be anywhere
This could be everywhere-Everywhere

849 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 6:51:32am

Finally finished ripping. I was missing a lot of mp3 rips of some old cd's of the best band to ever come out of canada. Anyone who says otherwise is a LIAR! I bet they wish these hair videos would go away. I had nothing to do with it and I'm almost ashamed to post...

850 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 6:59:33am

re: #849 RogueOne

best band to ever come out of canada.

*blink*

851 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 7:00:19am

re: #848 negativ

Nothing like 80's punk:

Dead Milkmen
If You love somebody, set them on fire:

852 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 7:00:38am

re: #850 negativ

LIAR!

853 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 7:17:08am

Local news:

Teen who jumped over courthouse railing dies
[Link: www.indystar.com...]


Whitson, who was facing a battery charge, was being escorted to Hendricks Circuit Court in Danville when the incident occurred. He and two officers from the Sugar Creek Juvenile Justice Center in Ladoga had just gotten off the third-floor elevator when the teen ran about 20 feet to the railing and leaped over, Yetter said.

The teen was handcuffed and wearing leg shackles. Yetter said it seemed as if the officers followed proper procedures. He didn't expect any procedures would change because of the incident.

Maybe they should add "keep a little better grip on them so they can't toss themselves over the damn edge" to those procedures.

854 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 7:24:03am

re: #853 RogueOne

Maybe they should add "keep a little better grip on them so they can't toss themselves over the damn edge" to those procedures.

No, because that would imply that the procedures weren't flawless. Part of any police force's vow to protect and serve [itself] inherently includes denial of any shortcomings.

855 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 7:27:38am

re: #854 negativ

That's funny, sad, and true. With as litigious as people have become it's almost hard to blame them.

856 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 7:45:53am

An Alien prequel?

It could be wonderful or terrible. Prequels are usually terrible, but it's Ridley Scott's baby, so maybe it'll be okay. Maybe.

857 Vambo  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 7:59:48am

re: #623 jaunte

We know one thing, he's not a good website designer:
[Link: www.myspace.com...]

The Green Tea Party?
I can dig it.
And the Marijuana Party... bwahaha.

858 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 8:02:52am

re: #695 NJDhockeyfan

Vermont is winning the insanity candidate race. Check out this video...


[Video]

Was raised to think it a good thing that Thaddeus Stevens and his radical reconstructionists didn't get their way with Jefferson Davis. We might have missed a good precedent, there,

859 KenJen  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 8:28:02am

re: #856 negativ

An Alien prequel?

It could be wonderful or terrible. Prequels are usually terrible, but it's Ridley Scott's baby, so maybe it'll be okay. Maybe.

Would be nice to see a new, never-heard-of-before actress in the lead role. Hope they leave Angelina Jolie or that vampire chick out of this one.

860 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 8:35:47am

Good morning, all. How are we all?

861 Kronocide  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 8:41:07am
862 Kronocide  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 8:52:46am

re: #860 Dark_Falcon

Don't be so meme-dacious.

863 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 8:53:33am

re: #861 BigPapa

The World According to San Francisco

LMAO! Great stuff.

864 HappyWarrior  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 8:58:02am

re: #856 negativ

An Alien prequel?

It could be wonderful or terrible. Prequels are usually terrible, but it's Ridley Scott's baby, so maybe it'll be okay. Maybe.

Yeah seems hit or miss, it does have Scott behind it going for it though. Honestly, what bothers me about all the prequels and remakes we're seeing is there are so many great ideas out there left to be untapped and also a number of books that could be adapated for film. I read Frank McCourt's second book, Tis over the summer and I really think it could make a good movie.

865 Kronocide  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 8:59:24am

I can't believe Schlafly didn't make the Mama Grizzly list, at least a throwback write in.

866 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 9:02:59am

re: #864 HappyWarrior

Yeah seems hit or miss, it does have Scott behind it going for it though. Honestly, what bothers me about all the prequels and remakes we're seeing is there are so many great ideas out there left to be untapped and also a number of books that could be adapated for film. I read Frank McCourt's second book, Tis over the summer and I really think it could make a good movie.

I'm not so sure about Riddley Scott. He made some crappy Robin Hood remake recently, He might be out of ideas.

867 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 9:03:35am

re: #865 BigPapa

I can't believe Schlafly didn't make the Mama Grizzly list, at least a throwback write in.

She's a throwback in a way Sarah Palin isn't. Palin isn't feminist, per say, but she is active in a very "outdoors and athletic" way that is not seen as traditionally feminine.

868 Kronocide  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 9:06:20am

re: #866 Killgore Trout

I'll second that, just watched it. That movie was a mess despite the actors and budget.

869 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 9:08:02am

re: #866 Killgore Trout

Well at least he is aware of a very high degree of fan base scrutiny.I wish him well. The local Studio City buzz is the script is pretty good.

870 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 9:10:29am

re: #867 Dark_Falcon

How much of that outdoorsiness is real, though?

871 Kronocide  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 9:12:29am

re: #870 Obdicut

How much of that outdoorsiness is real, though?

Shouldn't Katie Couric ask that question? You betcha!

872 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 9:16:57am

re: #870 Obdicut

How much of that outdoorsiness is real, though?

Some of it is real, though its certainly exaggerated for political purposes. It'll be further exaggerated when her TV show premieres on The Learning Channel soon. I've seen the previews. They don't fool me, but someone less aware of who she is might be won over.

873 Kronocide  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 9:17:21am

I watched Beck during lunch yesterday at a local eatery. Two guys were on talking about scientists and their beliefs in theology. It sounded like scientists are the new 'university professors,' a new group that is not to be trusted.

874 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 9:20:18am

re: #869 Rightwingconspirator

Well at least he is aware of a very high degree of fan base scrutiny.I wish him well. The local Studio City buzz is the script is pretty good.

I just don't think the Hollywood system is capable of making decent movies anymore. There's too much money in crappy movies with dazzling effects and generic plot points.

875 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 9:21:32am

re: #873 BigPapa

I watched Beck during lunch yesterday at a local eatery. Two guys were on talking about scientists and their beliefs in theology. It sounded like scientists are the new 'university professors,' a new group that is not to be trusted.


Here's the rundown of last night's show...
Beck attacks science with anti-gay bigots

876 HappyWarrior  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 9:21:53am

re: #873 BigPapa

I watched Beck during lunch yesterday at a local eatery. Two guys were on talking about scientists and their beliefs in theology. It sounded like scientists are the new 'university professors,' a new group that is not to be trusted.

I think that's been the tactic for a while. Demonize the scientists. And as for the college professors it's obviously only for those who disagree with them. Nary a peep out of David Horowitz's mouth about my school (GMU) and its economics department. I heard from an economics major aquaintence that one of the questions on one of her exams was "Why is the Obamacare plan bad for the country." Not why or why not mind you why is it bad.

877 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 9:31:50am

re: #874 Killgore Trout

I just don't think the Hollywood system is capable of making decent movies anymore. There's too much money in crappy movies with dazzling effects and generic plot points.

Hollywood still does make good movies at times (The Town was quite good) but they'll naturally focus their efforts where they can make the most money. It's also relevant that Hollywood now makes many of their movies for the global market. That explains the focus of special effects and generic plot points, as those are universal. Great drama is often culturally relative and what may be seen as great in the US may receive a derisive snort in other countries.

878 Kronocide  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 9:38:13am

re: #876 HappyWarrior

I think that's been the tactic for a while. Demonize the scientists.

I agree, but this seemed more like the crafting of a more sophisticated meme as opposed to a general assault.

Not to be too cynical but I had a fleeting thought of Haing S Nor in The Killing Fields trying to convince somebody that he was a taxi driver.

879 Catttt  Sat, Oct 16, 2010 8:26:49pm

re: #581 negativ

This is brilliant. Applauds.


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