Pamela Geller Calls for ‘Auxiliary Law Enforcement’ Against Muslims

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Today, Pamela “Shrieking Harpy” Geller is advocating vigilante justice for those evil stealth jihadi Muslims in New Jersey.

The hypocrisy loooms [sic] large. Here’s a letter I thought I should share with you. I expect the gutless congressman who witnessed his Muslim constituents dancing on 9/11/01 will do nothing but hide beneath his desk. If this continues — auxiliary law enforcement will be necessary.

“Auxiliary law enforcement.” Is that what her friends in the English Defence League do?

Geller posts a letter from a woman who says she’s old, disabled, and being horribly harassed and threatened by Muslim stealth jihadis in Paterson, New Jersey.

Dear Congressman Pascrell:

Greetings and best wishes for your, and our, continued success in the upcoming election. I know you are busy because of election time, so I will keep this letter brief and to the point. I plan to share this letter with Pamela Geller, a prominent American Civil Rights activist, so I will repeat information already known to you, Congressman Pascrell, in order to make the letter fully comprehensible to Ms. Geller.

We’ll pause here for a moment to savor the sheer Orwellian madness of calling this neo-Nazi sympathizing illiterate bigot a “civil rights activist.”

The writer of the letter goes on to complain that she’s being insulted and mocked by Muslims, and claims that one of them actually ran into her with an SUV, as a police officer watched. WTF?

I am moved to write today because a man seated at one of the many sidewalk chairs on Main Street impeded my ability to walk down the street, and called out, “Look out! Look out! Here comes Jesus Christ!” as I approached on the sidewalk. This man, about sixty, speaking with a heavy Turkish accent, with face stubble, began to repeatedly make body motions with his hands across his face and chest in a mockery of the act of a Christian blessing oneself. This occurred today, Sunday, October 17, 2010, at approximately four p.m., as I walked from my apartment to Corrado’s.

This is a constant occurrence on this Muslim-dominated stretch of road. In the past, I have been mocked by other religious names. Once a much younger man, in a group of men speaking Arabic, stopped me, and mocked me as “Moses,” as his friends surrounded me. On another occasion, witnessed by a police officer, a Muslim man hit me with his SUV, knocking me to the ground. The police officer took and filed a full report.

As you know, I am an older woman, and physically handicapped. I need a cane to walk. These Muslim men target an older, physically handicapped, isolated American woman for their abuse.

After demanding that Congressman Pascrell do something about her persecution by these stealth creeping sharia jihadis, she signs the letter — and Geller redacts her full name.

For a reason that we’re about to discover.

Danusha REDACTED PhD

After the letter, Geller entreats her bigoted followers to send hate mail to Congressman Pascrell, of course. That’s her modus operandi: get the loons riled up and sic them on someone.

But let’s take a closer look at the author of this letter, shall we?

It didn’t take long for LGF operative Gus 802 to find out who this really is. Her full name is Danusha Goska, and she’s a first-class kook.

Here’s a letter she wrote to Paterson mayor Jose Torres in 2008 and published at white nationalist hate site VDARE, ranting about “Hispanic noise pollution.” The post at VDARE notes that this isn’t the first time she’s published something there.

And here’s a bizarre article she wrote to express her love for an antisemitic Nazi propaganda film titled “Jud Süss.”

Youtube Video

And here’s a photo of Goska taken in 2004, looking not at all elderly or frail:

Once again, Pamela Geller has been taken in by a raving racist nutjob. But this time she’s calling for vigilante “auxiliary law enforcement,” which takes it one step further for the shrieking harpy. Eventually, she’s going to get someone hurt or killed with her hate speech and incitement.

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228 comments
1 CuriousLurker  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:00:57pm

Well done! Thank you.

2 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:01:48pm

911, what is the nature of your emergency?

Yes, I would like to report an incidence of Hispanic noise!

3 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:02:20pm

mentally ill people on the internet.

A front row seat to watch all the crazy!

4 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:02:35pm

Substitute "SA brownshirts" for "auxillary law enforcement" and "Jews/other undesirables" for "Muslims/Hispanics" and you have a ugly, racist screed worthy of 1920s/1930s Germany..

/yes, I just Godwined a brand new thread... ;-P

5 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:03:15pm

re: #2 Gus 802

911, what is the nature of your emergency?

Yes, I would like to report an incidence of Hispanic noise!

"Sir, the Deftones concert ended 30 minutes ago."

6 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:04:29pm

re: #4 talon_262
You are closer to the truth than you realize.

7 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:05:35pm

re: #4 talon_262

Substitute "SA brownshirts" for "auxillary law enforcement" and "Jews/other undesirables" for "Muslims/Hispanics" and you have a ugly, racist screed worthy of 1920s/1930s Germany..

/yes, I just Godwined a brand new thread... ;-P

Oh it's the same fuckers, don't even worry about it

And it's gonna get sicker in this country before it gets better

8 Kragar  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:07:42pm

Civil Rights Activist?

Whadahuh?

9 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:08:32pm

re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Civil Rights Activist?

Whadahuh?

Notice how she capitalized "Civil Rights"? Odd.

10 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:08:36pm

Take a look at this.

11 Jeff In Ohio  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:08:38pm
12 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:08:38pm

re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Civil Rights Activist?

Whadahuh?

She is a civil rights activist.

She's actively working to take civil rights away from Muslim Americans.

13 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:09:01pm

Dear Civil Rights Activist Pamela Geller,
Your humanitarian efforts are legendary. Please help me. I'm being oppressed by Jews, Blacks, Noisy Hispanics, Gypsies, Canadians, Muslims. Send help, vigilantes a plus.
Your Pal,
Der Fuhrer Adolf (Redacted)
P.O. Box #1
The Chancellery
Berlin, Germany

14 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:09:10pm

re: #10 SanFranciscoZionist

Take a look at this.

Sorry, THIS.

This woman's not a new discovery.

15 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:09:40pm

re: #2 Gus 802

911, what is the nature of your emergency?

Yes, I would like to report an incidence of Hispanic noise!

Hispanics have boom boxes that go up to eleven!

16 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:09:45pm

re: #11 Jeff In Ohio

Danusha V. Goska

She loves Hitler movies.

17 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:10:14pm

re: #4 talon_262

Substitute "SA brownshirts" for "auxillary law enforcement" and "Jews/other undesirables" for "Muslims/Hispanics" and you have a ugly, racist screed worthy of 1920s/1930s Germany..

/yes, I just Godwined a brand new thread... ;-P

That ain't no Godwin.

This is ugly bad crazy.

18 Kragar  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:10:41pm

I guess a serial killer could be called a population control technician under the same logic.

19 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:11:39pm

re: #16 Charles

She loves Hitler movies.

But she has this clever little "I'm a Pole, I can't really be loving this movie...or can I?" routine.

I've seen Jews do that as well. It's trashy.

20 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:12:04pm

If you have a Twitter account, don't forget to retweet this one. Geller has really crossed a line this time by calling for vigilante violence.

21 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:12:17pm

re: #15 SanFranciscoZionist

Hispanics have boom boxes that go up to eleven!

Did you see this in the letter?

I am writing to inform you of the constant harassment, even dangerous harassment, I endure as I walk the three miles from my apartment in Artist's Housing, a federally funded Artist's Housing project, along Main Street in Paterson, NJ, to Corrado's Market, on Main Street. Corrado's is, of course, a legendary local market, unsurpassed for its fresh produce.

Weird no? She's writing about being harassed but has to insert that the market she goes to is known for its fresh produce.

Also notice the redundant capitalization with "artist's housing."

22 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:12:59pm

re: #19 SanFranciscoZionist

She also lectures and teaches classes on racism at some university.

23 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:13:40pm

re: #21 Gus 802

a federally funded Artist's Housing project,


Tea Party Socialism!

24 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:13:55pm

911, what is the nature of your emergency?

Yeah, some guys are making a lot of noise at Bob's Liquor and Wine, which incidentally is known for having the finest selection of red table wines in the city.

26 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:14:20pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

Which university? I will know to avoid it when I decide to go for an advanced degree.

27 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:14:49pm
If this continues — auxiliary law enforcement will be necessary.


Translation: Import soccer hooligan rioting.

28 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:14:55pm

re: #16 Charles

She loves Hitler movies.

From as much of her article as I could bear, she didn't love it, but she certainly has erratic "friends".

29 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:15:03pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

She also lectures and teaches classes on racism at some university.

Take a look at this one.

30 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:15:04pm

Has anybody linked to this Frum Forum post yet? "Charles Johnson disowns Geller":[Link: www.frumforum.com...]

31 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:15:08pm

So...will these auxiliary law enforcement people wear spandex, gloves, and masks?

32 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:16:07pm

re: #26 PhillyPretzel

Which university? I will know to avoid it when I decide to go for an advanced degree.

William Paterson University in New Jersey.

33 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:16:19pm

re: #31 EmmmieG

So...will these auxiliary law enforcement people wear spandex, gloves, and masks?

Doc Martens, I suspect.

34 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:16:45pm

re: #32 Killgore Trout

Good. I will go to LaSalle University.

35 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:17:04pm

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel

Translation: Import soccer hooligan rioting.

Start citizen patrols...surely NICE Muslims will realize that the people in the brown berets are only here to help.

36 jaunte  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:17:05pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

Steve Sailer is a fan:
[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

37 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:17:30pm
38 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:18:40pm

re: #36 jaunte

Steve Sailer is a fan:
[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

OK, so she asked for tree fitty, and we realized, that ain't no sweet, persecuted old lady, that's the Loch Ness Monster!!

39 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:20:07pm

re: #29 SanFranciscoZionist

Take a look at this one.

Her theological writing is over my head.

40 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:23:01pm

I wonder if the "auxiliary law enforcement" will also tackle the noisy Hispanic problem.

41 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:23:45pm

I got to go to work tomorrow. Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

42 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:24:54pm

re: #40 Killgore Trout

I wonder if the "auxiliary law enforcement" will also tackle the noisy Hispanic problem.

She needs peace and quiet to enjoy all the nuances in the soundtrack of "Jud Süss". Can you blame her?

43 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:25:10pm

re: #40 Killgore Trout

I wonder if the "auxiliary law enforcement" will also tackle the noisy Hispanic problem.

That would probably go to the Auxiliary Hispanic Noise Enforcement Unit.

//Wingnut capitalization added for flair.

44 CuriousLurker  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:25:18pm

I'm out too. Have a great night everyone.

45 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:26:39pm

re: #42 Charles

She needs peace and quiet to enjoy all the nuances in the soundtrack of "Jud Süss". Can you blame her?

It's Awesomely Aryan!

46 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:28:08pm

re: #38 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, so she asked for tree fitty, and we realized, that ain't no sweet, persecuted old lady, that's the Loch Ness Monster!!

*squint*

tree fitty?

*squint*

47 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:28:46pm

The other extra dummy part is that Rep. Pascrell is a Washington congressman not a state congressman. What the heck is she doing writing to him? I bet he gets a letter a day from her.

48 Lidane  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:28:52pm

re: #20 Charles

If you have a Twitter account, don't forget to retweet this one.

Done and done. Crazy Pam has gone totally over the line with this.

49 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:31:07pm

re: #45 Killgore Trout

[Video]

It's Awesomely Aryan!

Wow. It's worse than I imagined.

50 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:31:36pm

How likely is Crazy Pam to translate this into action?
We know she has a spare million or more, plus what she can scarf from Koch-kook donors. With that, you could easily import several hundred soccer hooligans into the US, probably with cut rate charter flights (free beer and all). Once here, it should be easy to arm them. Hell, they're used to making do with neolithic weapons; clubs, rocks, and the odd kitchen knife. They would have a collective orgasm at Mossberg .22s and H&R single shots, let alone any really good weapons their domestic allies might bring along. Training them would be the work of an afternoon, since they would not be required to hit anything in particular.

51 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:32:13pm

re: #49 Charles


Gotta love the classics.

52 jamesfirecat  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:38:24pm

OT Time people: Guess who just finally managed to beat Starcraft 2 on Brutal?

Yeah Belly of the Beast into the final mission because that's how I'd always done it.

Went back and replayed shatter the sky and, well does anybody else think that the final mission is a lot easier if you take out the nidas worms rather than the zerg air support?

Because naids worms keep opping up all over the place letting them slam our two choke points with big forces whereas against air power you just need to build lots of missile turrets with Valkire back up....

Thoughts?

53 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:39:39pm

Big movie fan. Here's the prof's take on Passion of the Christ. (Hint: It's a plea for tolerance.)
[Link: www.google.com...]

That is a cache link.

54 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:40:30pm

re: #52 jamesfirecat

Thoughts?

None.

55 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:40:52pm

re: #53 Decatur Deb

Big movie fan. Here's the prof's take on Passion of the Christ. (Hint: It's a plea for tolerance.)
[Link: www.google.com...]

That is a cache link.

Yeccch.

I grew up eating the flesh of the head of the pig: headcheese. I still like it, crave it.

56 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:41:50pm

Evening lizards!

57 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:41:55pm

re: #51 Decatur Deb

Gotta love the classics.

If Jud Süss is a classic like the Inquisition and the bubonic plague, I'm sure the world would be better off without it...

58 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:43:32pm

re: #57 talon_262

If Jud Süss is a classic like the Inquisition and the bubonic plague, I'm sure the world would be better off without it...

Before there is "Never Again", there must be "Never Forget".

59 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:45:57pm

re: #58 Decatur Deb

Before there is "Never Again", there must be "Never Forget".

Tru dat...point taken.

60 Kragar  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:47:35pm

re: #52 jamesfirecat

OT Time people: Guess who just finally managed to beat Starcraft 2 on Brutal?

Yeah Belly of the Beast into the final mission because that's how I'd always done it.

Went back and replayed shatter the sky and, well does anybody else think that the final mission is a lot easier if you take out the nidas worms rather than the zerg air support?

Because naids worms keep opping up all over the place letting them slam our two choke points with big forces whereas against air power you just need to build lots of missile turrets with Valkire back up...

Thoughts?

Fallout New Vegas in 2 days.

61 darthstar  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:49:00pm

Cody.Fucking.Ross. and no, he's not a muslim, Pam.

62 Irenicum  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:49:04pm

Hey Lizards. Good evening y'all.

I suspect this utterly insane wingnut bigot would also prolly give Birth of a Nation two enthusiastic thumbs up. I don't think they make psych meds strong enough for her type.

63 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:52:58pm

re: #4 talon_262

Substitute "SA brownshirts" for "auxillary law enforcement" and "Jews/other undesirables" for "Muslims/Hispanics" and you have a ugly, racist screed worthy of 1920s/1930s Germany..

/yes, I just Godwined a brand new thread... ;-P

You didn't say anything I didn't say when Killgore first posted this. What I said was to quote the Horst Wessel Lied: "Clear the streets for the brown battalions."

The only major differences between the EDL and the SA are:

1. Numbers, the SA was much larger.
2 The SA was able to march in step.

64 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:54:29pm

I Hate New Jersey Nazis!

65 darthstar  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:55:47pm

re: #64 Dark_Falcon

I Hate New Jersey Nazis!

They're not all bad, if you add enough butter.

66 freetoken  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:55:48pm

Kudos to Gus for digging out the identity of this latest example of nuttery.

67 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 6:58:06pm

re: #53 Decatur Deb

Big movie fan. Here's the prof's take on Passion of the Christ. (Hint: It's a plea for tolerance.)
[Link: www.google.com...]

That is a cache link.

Feh.

68 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:02:41pm

re: #66 freetoken

Kudos to Gus for digging out the identity of this latest example of nuttery.

Thanks. Didn't take much effort since she's not exactly a private person. The redacted part was rather stupid since she's already been featured at VDARE on numerous occasions regarding her letters of grievances. I say that because the usual moron will think I have secret powers. You remember like that last nut we located regarding Hawaii and the Obama nirth certificate? That guy was certifiable. Of all things he was another writer of sorts.

69 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:03:02pm

She also has reviews on Amazon of the books you'd expect.

70 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:04:22pm

Someone want to let PG know she's fronting a professional Polish Catholic revisionist (NTTAWWT)?

71 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:04:40pm

I'm trying really hard not let my own ethnic chazerei color my impression of this woman's career as a race-baiter and muser on anti-Semitic movies.

I will say, however, that Pam might benefit from a little more of a Jewish take on the world.

72 jaunte  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:04:46pm

re: #67 SanFranciscoZionist

That woman is quite mad, and also a bigot. At the end of an almost interminable discussion of her undiagnosed mystery illness, this:

At first I assessed the professor's response to my having missed four workdays to attend my father's funeral as the bad mood of someone with power interacting with someone who has none. With each day her vengeful punishments and humiliations spiraled out of the range of the sane. I began to understand that what was happening was very ugly and very bad, and that for me, there was no way out. First, I packed my cardboard boxes. Then, in solidarity with whomever would next be assigned to that professor, I approached a dean. "Your impressions are correct," I was told. "She's been ruining people for years. You can't leave. We need someone to testify against her. You see, she's an African American female, and this won't be easy. We've been waiting for someone like you. Someone with nothing to lose."[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]
73 avanti  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:04:47pm

"BERLIN (AFP) – Germany's attempt to create a multi-cultural society has failed completely, Chancellor Angela Merkel said at the weekend, calling on the country's immigrants to learn German and adopt Christian values.

Merkel weighed in for the first time in a blistering debate sparked by a central bank board member saying the country was being made "more stupid" by poorly educated and unproductive Muslim migrants.

"Multikulti", the concept that "we are now living side by side and are happy about it," does not work, Merkel told a meeting of younger members of her conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU) party at Potsdam near Berlin."


WTF ??.

74 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:04:56pm

re: #70 Decatur Deb

Someone want to let PG know she's fronting a professional Polish Catholic revisionist (NTTAWWT)?

There's plenty wrong with that.

75 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:05:49pm

re: #68 Gus 802

Thanks. Didn't take much effort since she's not exactly a private person. The redacted part was rather stupid since she's already been featured at VDARE on numerous occasions regarding her letters of grievances. I say that because the usual moron will think I have secret powers. You remember like that last nut we located regarding Hawaii and the Obama nirth certificate? That guy was certifiable. Of all things he was another writer of sorts.

It's very likely that Geller deleted her last name deliberately, to try to hide Goska's history of craziness.

76 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:06:06pm

re: #72 jaunte

That woman is quite mad, and also a bigot. At the end of an almost interminable discussion of her undiagnosed mystery illness, this:

Ah.

77 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:06:40pm

re: #75 Charles

It's very likely that Geller deleted her last name deliberately, to try to hide Goska's history of craziness.

Pam told one of her commenters at Atlas Shrugs that she deleted it to 'protect her from reprisals'.

78 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:07:46pm

re: #64 Dark_Falcon

I Hate New Jersey Nazis!

I hate California Nazis!

Are Neo-Nazis Infiltrating America's Most Trivial Political Offices?


You all remember Dan Schruender, the admitted neo-Nazi running for school board in Southern California. Now we learn of another SoCal neo-Nazi running for another minor league political position. Meet Riverside Water Board candidate Jeff Hall

According to the Riverside Press-Enterprise, a mysterious Jeff Hall has been running a stealth campaign for a seat on the all-powerful water board. (i.e. he's not campaigning at all and hoping voters just randomly elect him.)

In addition to being an aspiring water boardmember, Hall is also a prominent neo-Nazi and the leader of the California chapter of the National Socialist Movement. Some of his hobbies include organizing rallies to protest illegal immigration and waving Nazi flags outside of synagogues. Water Board members say they "have no idea what his platform on water issues is." Just a guess here, but it probably has something to do with the genetic superiority of white people?

79 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:07:48pm

re: #75 Charles

It's very likely that Geller deleted her last name deliberately, to try to hide Goska's history of craziness.

No doubt. Or to lend an air of importance.

Check this Google search out for "hispanic noise" and look at the first two that come up.

80 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:08:29pm

re: #72 jaunte

That woman is quite mad, and also a bigot. At the end of an almost interminable discussion of her undiagnosed mystery illness, this:

Herr Goebbels could have written that better. The piece of fiction is obvious by its dialogue, which is Ayn Rand-level clunky.

81 jaunte  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:09:37pm

re: #80 Dark_Falcon

Did you see this sentence?

"Daddy had mined the bridges that could have carried my love."

82 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:10:01pm

Exactly what legal action does she want the police to take which they failed to take?

83 freetoken  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:10:23pm

re: #68 Gus 802

... the usual moron will think I have secret powers.

Aha! You adimit it - you're not just an LGF "operative", you are a secret operative!!

84 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:10:40pm

re: #82 EmmmieG

Exactly what legal action does she want the police to take which they failed to take?

Note that by "legal action" I meant actions which are legal, like ticketing people for playing loud music and disrupting the peace at 3 am.

85 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:10:56pm

re: #63 Dark_Falcon

You didn't say anything I didn't say when Killgore first posted this. What I said was to quote the Horst Wessel Lied: "Clear the streets for the brown battalions."

The only major differences between the EDL and the SA are:

1. Numbers, the SA was much larger.
2 The SA was able to march in step.

Sorry that I didn't say anything when KIllgore initally posted it, but I've been at work since 1400 CDT and was playing catchup through that thread...I did upding it though.

86 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:10:58pm

re: #72 jaunte

That woman is quite mad, and also a bigot. At the end of an almost interminable discussion of her undiagnosed mystery illness, this:

And I also assume that a subsequent guest post on Atlas Shrieks will be from Alex Jones, tracing the mystery illness to water fluoridation.

/I wish I was kidding.

87 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:11:26pm

I'm trying to fit the prof on the Left-Right scale. She is a Berkeley MA, Women's Studies teacher with a Mel Gibson crush, and Teutonic music gets her toes to tapping. The polls are open.

88 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:12:05pm

re: #85 talon_262

Sorry that I didn't say anything when KIllgore initally posted it, but I've been at work since 1400 CDT and was playing catchup through that thread...I did upding it though.

Thanks.

89 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:12:05pm

re: #83 freetoken

Aha! You adimit it - you're not just an LGF "operative", you are a secret operative!!

You bet! Yeah, Danusha, such a common name. Hell, if that moron Geller was serious about it she would have just struck the name completely or replaced it with "Susan Helmet".

90 freetoken  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:12:09pm

PIMF "admit"

My excuse - I'm listening to a diavlogue between Glenn Loury and Amy Wax on race:

[Link: bloggingheads.tv...]

At least they're not yelling at each other!

91 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:13:46pm

re: #53 Decatur Deb

Big movie fan. Here's the prof's take on Passion of the Christ. (Hint: It's a plea for tolerance.)
[Link: www.google.com...]

That is a cache link.

She does ramble on and on, doesn't she?

92 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:13:59pm
Exactly what legal action does she want the police to take which they failed to take?

Why round them up and ship them to labor camps of course. These would have to be in the west this time, there not being much of anything east of Jersey.
/Godwin's law is officially repealed, overtaken and rendered moot by an influx of actual Nazis.

93 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:14:40pm

re: #87 Decatur Deb

I'm trying to fit the prof on the Left-Right scale. She is a Berkeley MA, Women's Studies teacher with a Mel Gibson crush, and Teutonic music gets her toes to tapping. The polls are open.

Educated in the academic Left, secretly resentful of the power she perceives speople of color, especially women of color, wielding in academia, nursing small grudges, and using the language and tools of identity politics to make her bigotries and personal mishegoss seem more academic and important.

Pretty straightforward.

94 APox  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:14:46pm

I mean you have to know the story is fake. They don't ram you with an SUV, they blow it up!

95 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:15:04pm

re: #87 Decatur Deb

I'm trying to fit the prof on the Left-Right scale. She is a Berkeley MA, Women's Studies teacher with a Mel Gibson crush, and Teutonic music gets her toes to tapping. The polls are open.

I'd go with Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS.

96 jaunte  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:15:14pm

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

There is a possibility she suffers from a mystery ailment.
It doesn't seem to have abated her writing output.
Or it could just be attention seeking.

97 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:15:21pm

re: #87 Decatur Deb

I'm trying to fit the prof on the Left-Right scale. She is a Berkeley MA, Women's Studies teacher with a Mel Gibson crush, and Teutonic music gets her toes to tapping. The polls are open.

I vote for the multi-spectral Bat Guano party.

98 researchok  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:16:15pm

Helluva Sunday.

99 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:18:23pm

re: #93 SanFranciscoZionist

Educated in the academic Left, secretly resentful of the power she perceives speople of color, especially women of color, wielding in academia, nursing small grudges, and using the language and tools of identity politics to make her bigotries and personal mishegoss seem more academic and important.

Pretty straightforward.

Throw in a very deep ethnic and religious defensiveness, and you've got her. But I don't think of that as straightforward. I'm seeing "Case Study" here.

100 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:20:26pm
Pamela Geller said...

I know her name. I redacted it for fear of reprisals.


Lol
/Fail

101 jaunte  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:21:10pm

re: #99 Decatur Deb

She must be in pretty good shape. According to her letter, she is physically handicapped, but walks three miles to the market (with a cane) and back with bag or bags of groceries, and has done for years.

102 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:21:18pm

re: #45 Killgore Trout

[Video]It's Awesomely Aryan!

OK, here's some brain bleach.

Disclaimer: I never liked that cheesy ballad "Jerusalem of Gold" and I always felt that Spielberg could have used other music.

103 freetoken  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:22:14pm

That's a very interesting, and at times awkward, conversation between Loury and Wax.

104 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:22:17pm

re: #102 Alouette

OK, here's some brain bleach.

[Video]

Disclaimer: I never liked that cheesy ballad "Jerusalem of Gold" and I always felt that Spielberg could have used other music.

Hmph. I love everthing Naomi Shemer ever wrote.

105 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:22:29pm

Gotta cut back on LGF. I just caught myself trying to upding a commenter on "Wonkette".

106 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:24:27pm

re: #87 Decatur Deb

I'm trying to fit the prof on the Left-Right scale. She is a Berkeley MA, Women's Studies teacher with a Mel Gibson crush, and Teutonic music gets her toes to tapping. The polls are open.

Did you read this craziness yet?

Saturday’s Letters: NPR Incenses A New Jersey Reader
From: Danusha V. Goska [e-mail her]
Re: James Fulford’s Column: NPR vs. VDARE.COM

Just as African Americans are proud of Rosa Parks, as feminists are proud of suffrage, I am proud of my fellow Slavic Americans who in 1897 struck in the name of fair labor practices in Lattimer, Pennsylvania, sacrificing their lives for a better future.

As long as the rich can exploit the desperate, the poor are robbed of any dignity. In the same way that slavery robbed the slaveholder and the slave of his humanity, a culture of the very rich and the struggling poor creates an eroded society.

As a working class American, I am heartbroken by the rhetoric around the immigration crisis. NPR has labeled anyone who questions the status quo as "evil," "racist" and “white supremacist.” I’m reminded of the Soviet-era news broadcasts I heard in Eastern Europe.

Work was once the route an American took to achieve a dignified life. A blue-collar worker from the union generation could stand up to white- collar worker. That dignity and security bestowed by union labor allowed the rich and the working class American to feel, at least on some levels, united in a broader community.

My mother, an immigrant, and card-carrying Teamster, taught me my Darwin young. I grew up knowing that capital and labor are in competition. Capital, with its allies in elite media and academia, erodes union gains for American workers as soon as they are made.

One weapon in the elite's quiver is illegal immigration. As long as there is an unchecked influx of workers willing, however temporarily, to do anything at any price, no U.S. worker’s job is safe.

This is a very good thing for America's rich. Their lawns are pristine; their bank accounts fat. But their greed damages our nation.

Financier Jay Gould boasted that he could hire one half of the working class to kill the other half. Today's invective on immigration, invoking imaginary racists as the bad guy while ignoring the real issues at stake, keeps Gould's spirit alive.

Goska, a writer, teacher and Ph.D. from Indiana University does “manual labor to make ends meet.” She submitted this essay to NPR (e-mail) which rejected it.

107 Ojoe  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:25:59pm

Here is some Ukrainian architecture and music. Some beauty to relieve all the nastiness. Good night all.

108 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:26:07pm

re: #106 Gus 802

Did you read this craziness yet?

BTW The Jay Gould she mentions there is Stephen Jay Gould. She's clueless.

109 jaunte  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:26:15pm

re: #106 Gus 802


My mother, an immigrant, and card-carrying Teamster, taught me my Darwin young.


?
She's confusing Darwin with Herbert Spencer.

110 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:26:30pm

re: #104 SanFranciscoZionist

Hmph. I love everthing Naomi Shemer ever wrote.

"Jerusalem of Gold" is not even an original tune. Naomi Shemer was "inspired" like George Harrison was "inspired" by "He's So Fine"

111 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:27:09pm

re: #106 Gus 802

Did you read this craziness yet?

NPR rejected the letter because its batshit insane. But to the VDARE scum, all it is is proof of "persecution".

112 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:27:16pm

re: #110 Alouette

"Jerusalem of Gold" is not even an original tune. Naomi Shemer was "inspired" like George Harrison was "inspired" by "He's So Fine"

I don't care! It's pretty!

113 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:27:33pm

re: #100 Killgore Trout

Lol
/Fail

No, she redacted the name to cover her ass, because even she knew Danusha Goska is a nutbag..

114 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:28:11pm

re: #109 jaunte

?
She's confusing Darwin with Herbert Spencer.

I don't know but it links to some trash by Steve Sailer at Vdare: The Left Doesn’t Like Darwin Either.

115 Irenicum  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:29:33pm

re: #106 Gus 802

Boy, she sher noes her Darwin alrighty!

(I do hafta admit I do find her very entertaining, but only in the best batshit crazy way of course)

116 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:30:23pm

re: #113 talon_262

No, she redacted the name to cover her ass, because even she knew Danusha Goska is a nutbag..

If it was Ron Paul or Glenn Beck i could buy that. But Pam Geller doesn't have even that much tactical sense. All she has is incoherent rage.

117 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:30:56pm

re: #113 talon_262

No, she redacted the name to cover her ass, because even she knew Danusha Goska is a nutbag..

Nah. She's too stupid for that. Why did she still leave enough of the name for us to figure out the author within a minute or two? She didn't check and she assumed everyone else was as stupid as her and wouldn't bother.

118 freetoken  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:31:18pm

re: #114 Gus 802

I don't know but it links to some trash by Steve Sailer ...

Speaking of SS, I've been thinking of writing up a harsh review of Razib Khan, who is popular in science blogging circles. Khan writes a lot on genetics. A whole lot. And race. He wrote articles for Taki, and links to SS.

And, he gets lots attention from the "mainstream" too, for example being an interlocutor on the Blogginheads site to which I linked upstream.

119 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:32:09pm

...and Pam's readers are already calling Bullshit on the story. Those who are familiar with the area say it's too long to walk even for an elderly disabled woman.

120 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:33:45pm

Awe geeze get a little dumber over at Vdare. Here's the Gould excerpt:

Financier Jay Gould boasted that he could hire one half of the working class to kill the other half...

Financier? It links to an article about race at Vdare which mentions the paleontologist Stephen J Gould not the financier Jay Gould.

121 darthstar  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:34:24pm

Fuck the motherfuckin' phillies.

122 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:35:08pm

re: #116 Dark_Falcon

If it was Ron Paul or Glenn Beck i could buy that. But Pam Geller doesn't have even that much tactical sense. All she has is incoherent rage.

re: #117 Killgore Trout

Nah. She's too stupid for that. Why did she still leave enough of the name for us to figure out the author within a minute or two? She didn't check and she assumed everyone else was as stupid as her and wouldn't bother.

GMTA

123 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:36:00pm

re: #120 Gus 802

Awe geeze get a little dumber over at Vdare. Here's the Gould excerpt:

Financier Jay Gould boasted that he could hire one half of the working class to kill the other half...

Financier? It links to an article about race at Vdare which mentions the paleontologist Stephen J Gould not the financier Jay Gould.

This crowd will never forgive Stephen J. Gould for "The Mismeasure of Man".

124 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:36:34pm

re: #119 Killgore Trout

...and Pam's readers are already calling Bullshit on the story. Those who are familiar with the area say it's too long to walk even for an elderly disabled woman.

You know the story is going to backfire when even Pam's own fans are going after it. Hopefully Shrieky has finally jumped the shark.

125 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:38:05pm

re: #124 Dark_Falcon

You know the story is going to backfire when even Pam's own fans are going after it. Hopefully Shrieky has finally jumped the shark.

Doubt it, but this one does require a lot of willing suspension of disbelief.

126 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:39:44pm

re: #121 darthstar

Fuck the motherfuckin' phillies.

Baseball is still going on?

All I can say is thank god for football.

127 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:40:38pm

re: #123 SanFranciscoZionist

This crowd will never forgive Stephen J. Gould for "The Mismeasure of Man".

I can't believe the level of hatred there is for Charles Darwin. It's probably worse today then ever. Everything that the right hates they try to pin on Darwin.

Ironic given the rights tendency towards a form of economic determination which is almost similar to the survival of species in the wild.

128 jaunte  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:40:45pm

"Danusha [redacted for fear of reprisals] PhD."

Lol.
She'll be anonymous among the huge mass of Doctor Danushas.

129 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:41:22pm

re: #128 jaunte

"Danusha [redacted for fear of reprisals] PhD."

Lol.
She'll be anonymous among the huge mass of Doctor Danushas.

In Paterson NJ. What a bird brain.

Sorry birds.

130 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:43:51pm

re: #125 SanFranciscoZionist

Doubt it, but this one does require a lot of willing suspension of disbelief.

Most likely Geller's fans blame Danusha Goska , and Geller attacks her for "giving the Muslims a story they can discredit". The failure will be seen as Goska's and not Geller's.

131 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:45:29pm

re: #127 Gus 802

I can't believe the level of hatred there is for Charles Darwin. It's probably worse today then ever. Everything that the right hates they try to pin on Darwin.

Ironic given the rights tendency towards a form of economic determination which is almost similar to the survival of species in the wild.

It is odd, to me, that they apparently believe in social Darwinism, while rejecting, well, poor old Darwin. And blaming him for fantasy social consequences of his work.

132 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:45:50pm

re: #121 darthstar

Fuck the motherfuckin' phillies.

The Phillys just opened a can of whoop-ass on the Giants in the 7th.

133 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:47:20pm

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

Most likely Geller's fans blame Danusha Goska , and Geller attacks her for "giving the Muslims a story they can discredit". The failure will be seen as Goska's and not Geller's.

I don't think it will get that far. I think Pam's fans accept this stuff with little or no critical thought. Look at the Rifqa Bary saga. NOTHING there made any sense.

134 freetoken  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:47:39pm

re: #127 Gus 802

I can't believe the level of hatred there is for Charles Darwin.

The one man they hate more than Lincoln, FDR, and WW.

135 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:48:53pm

re: #134 freetoken

The one man they hate more than Lincoln, FDR, and WW.

What I can't tell is this: do they really think he was wrong? And for those who aren't Biblical literalists, WHAT do they think he was wrong about?

136 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:49:20pm

re: #131 SanFranciscoZionist

It is odd, to me, that they apparently believe in social Darwinism, while rejecting, well, poor old Darwin. And blaming him for fantasy social consequences of his work.

Odd indeed. Don't pay your 75 bucks? Your house burns down. Don't have health insurance? You die of cancer. Don't have any savings and you lose your house or apartment? You become a hobo.

137 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:50:20pm

re: #136 Gus 802

Odd indeed. Don't pay your 75 bucks? Your house burns down. Don't have health insurance? You die of cancer. Don't have any savings and you lose your house or apartment? You become a hobo.

But Charles Darwin was heartless. Because...?

138 jaunte  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:51:20pm

re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist

I think the sequence is: "Darwin > Herbert Spencer > Margaret Sanger > Hitler and therefore scientists are Hitler and we don't need to listen to them."

139 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:51:25pm

re: #14 SanFranciscoZionist

Sorry, THIS.

This woman's not a new discovery.

yada-yada-yada-Muslims bad-yada-yada-yada..

140 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:51:46pm

re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist

What I can't tell is this: do they really think he was wrong? And for those who aren't Biblical literalists, WHAT do they think he was wrong about?

They don't make it that far. Like you just said, there's no critical analysis. It's just: "Darwin was bad and we know it because he is favored by those tricksy Liberals." Their thoughts begin and end with the idea that nothing favored by liberalism can be good.

141 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:52:58pm

re: #140 Dark_Falcon

They don't make it that far. Like you just said, there's no critical analysis. It's just: "Darwin was bad and we know it because he is favored by those tricksy Liberals." Their thoughts begin and end with the idea that nothing favored by liberalism can be good.

I guess that after being a liberal my whole life, I never really realized that Darwin was one of our Special People. He was just some important scientist in the nineteenth century.

They left out his personal friendship with both Hitler AND Stalin in Liberal Sunday School.

142 freetoken  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:53:26pm

re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist

Not all on the far right are Darwin haters. There is a small group that are quite into evolution - and race. E.g. Khan of whom I wrote earlier, Sailer, what's his name over at NRO, and such.

143 researchok  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:54:08pm

SFZ, Gus, I just got this emailed to me.

Pretty stunning- in a good way.

144 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:54:35pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

She also lectures and teaches classes on racism at some university.

Should make one very afraid to send their kid to college.
Well, except her students seem to be on to her, if the reviews posted in the previous thread are any indication

145 researchok  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:55:40pm

re: #144 reine.de.tout

Reine- click on the link I just posted.

146 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:55:54pm

re: #143 researchok

SFZ, Gus, I just got this emailed to me.

Pretty stunning- in a good way.

Not too shabby. I shall forget about one of the many grudges I hold against Shmuley.

;)

147 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:56:10pm

Interesting.

Several bloggers are now suddenly posting about Instapundit's attempt to blame Obama for anti-Muslim craziness. And none of them are hat-tipping me. See Andrew Sullivan, for example.

Gotta love it. I guess I'm invisible.

148 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:56:18pm

re: #143 researchok

SFZ, Gus, I just got this emailed to me.

Pretty stunning- in a good way.

Boteach is hard to figure out sometimes. I do know he's not very fond of atheists.

149 researchok  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:56:34pm

re: #146 SanFranciscoZionist

Not too shabby. I shall forget about one of the many grudges I hold against Shmuley.

;)

It's quite extraordinary, really.

150 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:57:00pm

re: #147 Charles

Interesting.

Several bloggers are now suddenly posting about Instapundit's attempt to blame Obama for anti-Muslim craziness. And none of them are hat-tipping me. See Andrew Sullivan, for example.

Gotta love it. I guess I'm invisible.

No, they can SEE you.

151 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:57:24pm

re: #145 researchok

Reine- click on the link I just posted.

I just finished reading it.
And bookmarking it.

152 researchok  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:57:30pm

re: #148 Gus 802

Boteach is hard to figure out sometimes. I do know he's not very fond of atheists.

Be that as it may, he's a real thinker.

What he wrote on that page ought to be mandatory reading.

153 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:58:19pm

re: #149 researchok

It's quite extraordinary, really.

It's a good article. He makes some excellent points. I hope this is read widely.

154 researchok  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:58:29pm

re: #147 Charles

Interesting.

Several bloggers are now suddenly posting about Instapundit's attempt to blame Obama for anti-Muslim craziness. And none of them are hat-tipping me. See Andrew Sullivan, for example.

Gotta love it. I guess I'm invisible.

The price of independence and independent thinking.

155 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:59:23pm

re: #153 SanFranciscoZionist

It's a good article. He makes some excellent points. I hope this is read widely.

I do think the 'marriage shouldn't be redefined' talking point sticking out in the middle of the end is silly, but I would.

156 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 7:59:33pm

Oh brother. Geller goes ahead and turns some crazy Somalian refugee that danced at the alter of Duomo of Florence into some Muslim conspiracy. The news here translated from Italian shows he was taken in for observation. You can also see the video here which shows that it only lasted seconds and he was rather docile. Everything is full on Muslim hate in Geller world.

157 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:00:20pm

re: #152 researchok

Be that as it may, he's a real thinker.

What he wrote on that page ought to be mandatory reading.

Yes. And if he can get people to have a change of heart then that's a good thing.

158 researchok  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:00:27pm

re: #153 SanFranciscoZionist

It's a good article. He makes some excellent points. I hope this is read widely.

Every liberal, conservative, Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, atheist, heterosexual, homosexual, etc., etc ought to read it.

Religion in the right hands (like everything else) can be most inspiring.

159 darthstar  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:00:46pm

re: #132 NJDhockeyfan

The Phillys just opened a can of whoop-ass on the Giants in the 7th.

yes, they did

160 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:00:50pm

re: #142 freetoken

Not all on the far right are Darwin haters. There is a small group that are quite into evolution - and race. E.g. Khan of whom I wrote earlier, Sailer, what's his name over at NRO, and such.

The man at NRO you are thinking of is John Derbyshire. He is not a Nazi type, but he seems to think less of black people at times. However, he holds Asians in high regard (his wife is Chinese) and with two mixed race children you can't call him a white supremacist. That's not to excuse his commentary, which seems Charles Murray-inspired, but rather to fully explain it.

161 researchok  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:01:55pm

re: #157 Gus 802

Yes. And if he can get people to have a change of heart then that's a good thing.

Honestly, I was quite moved by the piece.

As a right of center conservative pro gay marriage advocate, he put into words ideas and thoughts I could not tap into.

Religion isn't always the enemy.

162 freetoken  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:02:00pm

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

The man at NRO you are thinking of is John Derbyshire.

Yeah, that was the guy of whom I was thinking.

163 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:02:38pm

re: #156 Gus 802

Oh brother. Geller goes ahead and turns some crazy Somalian refugee that danced at the alter of Duomo of Florence into some Muslim conspiracy. The news here translated from Italian shows he was taken in for observation. You can also see the video here which shows that it only lasted seconds and he was rather docile. Everything is full on Muslim hate in Geller world.

Yeah, I'm sure triumphalist jihadis just jump down and go with you when you say "Hey! That's not allowed!"

164 researchok  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:02:43pm

re: #155 SanFranciscoZionist

I do think the 'marriage shouldn't be redefined' talking point sticking out in the middle of the end is silly, but I would.

If that's the worst of it, he's done well.

165 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:03:28pm

re: #161 researchok

Honestly, I was quite moved by the piece.

As a right of center conservative pro gay marriage advocate, he put into words ideas and thoughts I could not tap into.

Religion isn't always the enemy.

Oh I know. I stopped listening to Pat Condel and am going to hold off listening to Thunderf00t for the duration. If that means anything.

166 researchok  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:03:49pm

re: #165 Gus 802

Oh I know. I stopped listening to Pat Condel and am going to hold off listening to Thunderf00t for the duration. If that means anything.

I'm on the same bus.

167 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:04:17pm

re: #152 researchok

Be that as it may, he's a real thinker.

What he wrote on that page ought to be mandatory reading.

Yes, it should be.

I was talking once to a friend of mine who went to be a nun but didn't stay, instead returned home and teaches at her church, mentors young people. She is very well educated in teachings and beliefs of the Catholic Church. Anyhow, I mentioned to her once that I felt that those transgressions which resulted in harm to someone, physical or mental harm to someone, were much worse sins, in terms of the personal evil of someone, than those sins that went against the general tenets of the faith but which result no harm done to others, and she agreed.

And he is making just about that same point.

168 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:04:30pm

re: #163 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah, I'm sure triumphalist jihadis just jump down and go with you when you say "Hey! That's not allowed!"

Seriously. I'd be interested to know how man other drunks and/or crazies have done the same thing there or at any other church around the world.

169 [deleted]  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:05:33pm
170 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:05:52pm

Ugh.

171 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:06:36pm

re: #169 pharmmajor

Man, that's not cool.

172 jaunte  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:06:59pm

re: #169 pharmmajor

Not a good thing to wish harm on a person. Point out her mistakes, point and laugh, but not that.

173 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:07:38pm

re: #169 pharmmajor

If you post anything like that at LGF again it will be the last time.

174 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:08:31pm

re: #168 Gus 802

Seriously. I'd be interested to know how man other drunks and/or crazies have done the same thing there or at any other church around the world.

My dad's parish church, which, believe me, is nowhere near as interesting as the Duomo, had a guy walk in from the street and begin to smash statues of saints.

He wasn't a Muslim.

That said, I expect a lot of people are inspired to try to get up on the altar at these big tourist-attracting churches. I always try to get up behind the altar if they will allow it, it's a different view than from the seating for the faithful.

Aaaah, whatever!

175 researchok  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:08:48pm

re: #167 reine.de.tout

Yes, it should be.

I was talking once to a friend of mine who went to be a nun but didn't stay, instead returned home and teaches at her church, mentors young people. She is very well educated in teachings and beliefs of the Catholic Church. Anyhow, I mentioned to her once that I felt that those transgressions which resulted in harm to someone, physical or mental harm to someone, were much worse sins, in terms of the personal evil of someone, than those sins that went against the general tenets of the faith but which result no harm done to others, and she agreed.

And he is making just about that same point.

You are absolutely right.

I was really moved by the piece (in no small measure because I have a close relative who is gay and I have seen his suffering at the hands of others, up close) and how Boteach makes clear identity has little to do with sexuality but more to do with moral and ethical behavior.

I like that.

176 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:08:57pm

On second thought, that WAS the last time. He knew damned well that kind of crap is unacceptable here.

177 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:11:18pm

re: #175 researchok

You are absolutely right.

I was really moved by the piece (in no small measure because I have a close relative who is gay and I have seen his suffering at the hands of others, up close) and how Boteach makes clear identity has little to do with sexuality but more to do with moral and ethical behavior.

I like that.

For people who are interested in issues of homosexuality and Judaism, I also recommend the documentary "Trembling Before G-d", and the book "Wresting With God and Men".

178 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:11:40pm

re: #172 jaunte

Not a good thing to wish harm on a person. Point out her mistakes, point and laugh, but not that.

Who did he wish harm on?

179 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:12:34pm

And don't email me.

It will go straight into the trash.

180 researchok  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:13:51pm

re: #177 SanFranciscoZionist

For people who are interested in issues of homosexuality and Judaism, I also recommend the documentary "Trembling Before G-d", and the book "Wresting With God and Men".

I've heard about the documentary and the book. I really ought to make time to watch and read.

I've read the article a few times now. With each reading, his passion for decency and morality becomes more apparent.

181 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:14:09pm

re: #174 SanFranciscoZionist

My dad's parish church, which, believe me, is nowhere near as interesting as the Duomo, had a guy walk in from the street and begin to smash statues of saints.

He wasn't a Muslim.

That said, I expect a lot of people are inspired to try to get up on the altar at these big tourist-attracting churches. I always try to get up behind the altar if they will allow it, it's a different view than from the seating for the faithful.

Aaaah, whatever!

I never thought of that as a kid. I was usually intrigued with all of the "secret" hallways and rooms. But church vandalism is really rather common. It's because they have an open door policy and anyone can come in off the street. I don't think dancing is really direct vandalism. It would be indirect and he didn't go in there to damage anything -- which he could have.

182 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:16:18pm

re: #179 Charles

And don't email me.

It will go straight into the trash.

Disregard my question, Jaunte. If someone said something rotten enough that Charles doesn't want to hear from them, that's all I need to know.

183 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:18:25pm

re: #181 Gus 802

I never thought of that as a kid. I was usually intrigued with all of the "secret" hallways and rooms. But church vandalism is really rather common. It's because they have an open door policy and anyone can come in off the street. I don't think dancing is really direct vandalism. It would be indirect and he didn't go in there to damage anything -- which he could have.

He also hops right down when the man comes up the aisle and tells him to cut it out. I think a triumphalist jihadi would have done something besides "Uh, OK, coming down."

184 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:19:19pm

re: #183 SanFranciscoZionist

He also hops right down when the man comes up the aisle and tells him to cut it out. I think a triumphalist jihadi would have done something besides "Uh, OK, coming down."

Exactly.

185 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:19:23pm

re: #181 Gus 802

I never thought of that as a kid. I was usually intrigued with all of the "secret" hallways and rooms. But church vandalism is really rather common. It's because they have an open door policy and anyone can come in off the street. I don't think dancing is really direct vandalism. It would be indirect and he didn't go in there to damage anything -- which he could have.

A famous science fiction writer, now deceased, once related that he and a girlfriend had gone into a Catholic Church during a late night drinking session and had sex on one of the pews. This happened in about 1948, while he was still in college. He said he literally shook with fear later when he realized what they had done and what could have happened.

186 jaunte  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:20:18pm

re: #182 Dark_Falcon

Just got back to the keyboard; it was just a violation of the spirit of

'Comments that advocate violence will be cause for immediate banning with no appeal.'


Comments hoping that someone will suffer an accident that removes them from the living, also qualify.

187 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:21:20pm

'Nite, all.

188 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:22:15pm

re: #185 Shiplord Kirel

A famous science fiction writer, now deceased, once related that he and a girlfriend had gone into a Catholic Church during a late night drinking session and had sex on one of the pews. This happened in about 1948, while he was still in college. He said he literally shook with fear later when he realized what they had done and what could have happened.

One of my college friends was thrown out of Job's Daughters as a teenager, when she was caught in the act with a DeMolay boy on the altar of the church they were having a mixer at. (He was not kicked out of DeMolay. Such is life.)

I'm sure people have been having sex in churches for about as long as there's been churches.

189 darthstar  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:23:34pm

Phuck the phuckin' phillies and phuckin' phox sports.

190 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:25:25pm

re: #183 SanFranciscoZionist

He also hops right down when the man comes up the aisle and tells him to cut it out. I think a triumphalist jihadi would have done something besides "Uh, OK, coming down."

In Harpy-World, there are no drunken stunts by Muslims. All Muslim acts are part of a deliberate plan to force Islam down the throats of the rest of the world, all being coordinated by a hive-mind in Mecca.

191 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:26:08pm

Since this is about ol' Geller. Here's the funny corrections for the NY Times article:

An article last Sunday about Pamela Geller, a blogger who attacks Islam, misidentified the location of a beach from which she video-blogged about her visit to Israel during the Israel-Hezbollah war in 2006. She was in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., at the time of her reports, not at a beach in Israel. The article also overstated the number of monthly unique visitors to Ms. Geller’s Web site, Atlas Shrugs. The site attracts 194,000 such visitors, according to Quantcast statistics — not one million. (The Nielsen Company estimated 184,000 in September.) And because of an editing error, the article misspelled the surname of the lead singer of the Who whom Ms. Geller was likened to for being the “front man” in the attack on Islam. He is Roger Daltrey, not Daltry.

Bet that visitor revision will freak out her cult.

192 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:27:21pm

And the silly thread over at Geller's site only has 16 comments.

I was looking at Donald Douglas's blog the other day and he usually gets zero comments.

193 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:29:39pm

re: #191 Gus 802

Since this is about ol' Geller. Here's the funny corrections for the NY Times article:

Bet that visitor revision will freak out her cult.

They'll just claim a "conspiracy to preach Islam", again.

194 researchok  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:31:38pm

re: #191 Gus 802

Since this is about ol' Geller. Here's the funny corrections for the NY Times article:

Bet that visitor revision will freak out her cult.

That pretty much made my day.

Knock a bigot down a peg or two- that works for me.

195 jaunte  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:31:50pm

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

Or that Quantcast is a San Francisco company, and for some politically correct reason is hiding the missing 800,000+ visitors stats.

196 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:33:06pm

re: #195 jaunte

Or that Quantcast is a San Francisco company, and for some politically correct reason is hiding the missing 800,000+ visitors stats.

It's those evil scienticians again!

/

197 researchok  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:34:37pm

re: #189 darthstar

Phuck the phuckin' phillies and phuckin' phox sports.

Pheelin' phreaked out?

198 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:34:58pm

re: #196 Gus 802

It's those evil scienticians again!

/

No, since its San Francisco Geller will go wingnut and claim she is a victim of the "Gay Mafia".

/I hear their suits are fabulous.

199 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:35:19pm

re: #194 researchok

That pretty much made my day.

Knock a bigot down a peg or two- that works for me.

Someone actually made a comparison of her to Roger Daltrey as in the "Roger Daltrey of anti Islam?" Where's my puke bag?

200 researchok  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:35:49pm

re: #191 Gus 802

Since this is about ol' Geller. Here's the funny corrections for the NY Times article:

Bet that visitor revision will freak out her cult.

Well, I just glad she not an accountant.

Or pharmacist.

201 Max  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:35:57pm

re: #147 Charles

Interesting.

Several bloggers are now suddenly posting about Instapundit's attempt to blame Obama for anti-Muslim craziness. And none of them are hat-tipping me. See Andrew Sullivan, for example.

Gotta love it. I guess I'm invisible.

With Andrew, nothing surprises me. He's been a lowlife for years.

202 researchok  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:36:38pm

re: #199 Gus 802

Someone actually made a comparison of her to Roger Daltrey as in the "Roger Daltrey of anti Islam?" Where's my puke bag?

I thought I didn't have an eye roll left in me.

I was wrong.

203 Max  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:37:57pm

re: #196 Gus 802

Gus, you've been posting some great Pages lately. Thanks for the one about Chris Christie. I like him but I like to know that good people are keeping an eye on the social cons.

Thank you.

204 HappyWarrior  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:39:23pm

So, Geller is either so stupid that she didn't check this woman's background where she praises a Nazi propaganda film and I've seen parts of it and it was disturbing ot put it mildly or Geller doesn't care that this woman is a raving bigot. Gotta laugh out loud at her letter describing Pam as a "Civil Rights Activist." I feel bad for Congressman Pascrell's office for having to deal with this crap.

205 Gus  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:39:25pm

re: #203 Max D. Reinhardt

Gus, you've been posting some great Pages lately. Thanks for the one about Chris Christie. I like him but I like to know that good people are keeping an eye on the social cons.

Thank you.

You're welcome. I try and keep with the news at NJ dot com.

206 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:40:05pm

This woman's insane rantings make really oddly compelling reading:


My Bloomington walls are not whimper-permeable. No smoke proceeds from my chimney, and I have not left my house in three days. My Bloomington neighbors do not satisfy me. I need a small girl. A small Nepali girl.

Ummm.

Yeah.

And this bit:


Pressed, I reported anecdotes: "Yesterday I was walking to a new class. The room was at the end of a long, low, hall. The hall's tile had been freshly laid, a crisp staircase design of black on white. There were no windows in the hall whose light or shadow might have mitigated the severity of the pattern. My body stopped as if a mime's against an invisible wall. It could not walk down that hallway, no matter how insistently I told it to. The hall was emptying. Classes were beginning. Quelling panic, intuiting that the sight of the tile was linked to my paralysis, I closed my eyes and felt my way along the cinder block wall."

That's a rather clear sign that the disorder is at least in a large part mental.


It's a pity; she has an obvious talent for writing. It's too bad it's all wrapped up in this certainty that she is the ultimate sufferer in the world, that nobody has it worse than her, and that everyone ought to drop everything and start helping her immediately.

207 researchok  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:40:45pm

re: #205 Gus 802

You're welcome. I try and keep with the news at NJ dot com.

You're just looking for a reason to hit the Raceway.
//

208 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:41:50pm

re: #188 SanFranciscoZionist

One of my college friends was thrown out of Job's Daughters as a teenager, when she was caught in the act with a DeMolay boy on the altar of the church they were having a mixer at. (He was not kicked out of DeMolay. Such is life.)

I'm sure people have been having sex in churches for about as long as there's been churches.

I wonder if people were thrown out of the Temple of Aphrodite for not having sex on the altar?

209 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:43:43pm

re: #204 HappyWarrior

So, Geller is either so stupid that she didn't check this woman's background where she praises a Nazi propaganda film and I've seen parts of it and it was disturbing ot put it mildly or Geller doesn't care that this woman is a raving bigot. Gotta laugh out loud at her letter describing Pam as a "Civil Rights Activist." I feel bad for Congressman Pascrell's office for having to deal with this crap.

Or, she doesn't care, and it can be manipulated, to make Pammie look good.

210 HappyWarrior  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:44:52pm

re: #209 Floral Giraffe

Or, she doesn't care, and it can be manipulated, to make Pammie look good.

Yeah that, though I would love to see the mental gymastics that she'll try to do. The author of this letter openly admires a Nazi propaganda film for petes sake.

211 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:45:53pm

re: #208 Alouette

I wonder if people were thrown out of the Temple of Aphrodite for not having sex on the altar?

"Sir, if you don't get it on, you're going to have to leave. We cannot allow services to be disrupted like this."

212 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:48:06pm

re: #203 Max D. Reinhardt

Gus, you've been posting some great Pages lately. Thanks for the one about Chris Christie. I like him but I like to know that good people are keeping an eye on the social cons.

Thank you.

Eh, Christie's a good egg. His desire to fund abstinence education is not a problem. He's not a nut who'll push some mandatory ultrasound bill. Just because he leans right on social matters, doesn't make him a problem. His desire to tackle New Jersey's money mess means he's something that state needs.

213 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:49:35pm

re: #210 HappyWarrior

Yeah that, though I would love to see the mental gymastics that she'll try to do. The author of this letter openly admires a Nazi propaganda film for petes sake.

Nazi propaganda films have been admired as art works, by the "artistes" who were able to separate their artistic quality from their disgusting message. Don't ask me to explain how they were able to accomplish that cognitive dissonance. Leni Reifenstahl enjoyed a fabulous career in spite of her Nazi propaganda works.

214 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:50:46pm

re: #213 Alouette

Nazi propaganda films have been admired as art works, by the "artistes" who were able to separate their artistic quality from their disgusting message. Don't ask me to explain how they were able to accomplish that cognitive dissonance. Leni Reifenstahl enjoyed a fabulous career in spite of her Nazi propaganda works.

I once had words with a local indy bookseller over their stocking of a Riefenstahl calender. Mysteriously, none of the stills were from her best-known work.

215 HappyWarrior  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:51:11pm

re: #213 Alouette

Nazi propaganda films have been admired as art works, by the "artistes" who were able to separate their artistic quality from their disgusting message. Don't ask me to explain how they were able to accomplish that cognitive dissonance. Leni Reifenstahl enjoyed a fabulous career in spite of her Nazi propaganda works.

You have a point. We were shown some of Birth of a Nation I recall because of D.W Griffin's influence on American cinema.

216 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:55:56pm

re: #213 Alouette

I can admit Reifenstahl's films are beautiful. So are sharks. A beautifully lacquered torture chamber would still be a torture chamber.

217 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 8:57:33pm

re: #214 SanFranciscoZionist

I once had words with a local indy bookseller over their stocking of a Riefenstahl calender. Mysteriously, none of the stills were from her best-known work.

Interestingly, one of her photo books was of the Nuba of Kenya. I looked through that book and the photographic quality was nothing short of superb. She really had a gift for photos and film, but she used it in the service of a wicked cause. Even so, her film of coral reef life (which was only released after her death) was actually screened at Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry.

218 McSpiff  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 9:01:13pm

re: #216 Obdicut

I can admit Reifenstahl's films are beautiful. So are sharks. A beautifully lacquered torture chamber would still be a torture chamber.

I watched a bit of the clip posted above. My first thought? 'I like that font. Its too bad the nazis ruined such a nice typographic style'. Doesn't mean i support any of it. Obviously (I hope).

219 HappyWarrior  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 9:03:12pm

Heh the thing about the Nazis for me is how they ruined the German language. German will always sound sinister and evil to me because of the Nazis. No offense to any German speakers here.

220 Jadespring  Sun, Oct 17, 2010 10:33:54pm

re: #213 Alouette

Nazi propaganda films have been admired as art works, by the "artistes" who were able to separate their artistic quality from their disgusting message. Don't ask me to explain how they were able to accomplish that cognitive dissonance. Leni Reifenstahl enjoyed a fabulous career in spite of her Nazi propaganda works.

We looked at her propaganda works in an art history class which funnily enough looked at propaganda and art. Great class. Wouldn't say it was about admiring it though.

221 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 1:10:45am

re: #211 SanFranciscoZionist

"Sir, if you don't get it on, you're going to have to leave. We cannot allow services to be disrupted like this."

hee hee

222 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 1:14:38am

re: #2 Gus 802

911, what is the nature of your emergency?

Yes, I would like to report an incidence of Hispanic noise!

You really have been rocking my socks off lately :D

223 Mentis Fugit  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 2:04:25am

re: #97 Shiplord Kirel

I vote for the multi-spectral Bat Guano party.

On the Political Compass, that's the Z-axis.

224 Kruk  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 2:06:05am

re: #118 freetoken

Khan writes a lot on genetics.

Well, he would, wouldn't he?

"From Hell's heart, I stab at thee. For hate's sake, I cast my last breath at thee."

Sorry, just couldn't resist.

225 Quant  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 2:55:54am

Hello Lizards. I hope this hasn't been posted before - I did search LGF, but I lack Gus' phenomenal Google-fu skills:

More hypocrisy from Paladino

Republican candidate for New York governor Carl Paladino may be against abortion facilities, but he has no trouble housing them and taking their money. Paladino, who is against abortions, even in cases of rape or incest, rents to Planned Parenthood of Buffalo. And he even used them to argue for a tax exemption.

226 Quant  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 2:59:56am

re: #225 Quant

Not only do I lack Gus' Google-fu, but I managed to post in an old thread! And I thought I was pretty internet competent.

227 jamie  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 8:21:57am

Just thinking outloud...if you were going to redact part of someone's name, and their first name was Danusha, wouldn't you consider just redacting the whole thing? I mean, maybe it's just my provincial outlook, but I don't think it's too hard to find racist Danushas through Teh Google.

228 wheat-dogg  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 6:35:32pm

re: #206 Obdicut

Wow. The bit about wanting a Nepali girl is too weird to comprehend. The second snippet reminds me of an English teacher I once worked with a long time ago. With the apparent complicity of her references, she had concealed a psychological disorder of some kind. If classes were changing, she would hug the walls (eyes open, AFAIK) to avoid any potential physical contact with students. She would begin classes with, "Well, what are we going to do today?" Once, when a student said something she didn't agree with, this teacher dumped a cup of cold water on the girl.

She was fired soon after. The girl's mom was on the board.

I'm not sure of the teacher in question ever got it together enough to write reams of tortured prose like this Danusha character. Danusha writes like a cross between Ayn Rand and Franz Kafka, with some high school literature magazine thrown in.


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