Glenn Beck’s Phony Historian, David Barton

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At the Tablet, Michelle Goldberg has an excellent and disturbing piece on the historical revisionist promoted by Glenn Beck as “the most important man in America” — fundamental Christian theocrat David Barton: History Lesson.

I’ve had several posts about Barton — he’s a fraud with no education as a historian (he has a bachelor’s degree in religious education from Oral Roberts University, the phoniest diploma in the US), who pushes a completely false version of American history in which the founding fathers were all devout Christians and intended America to be a Christian theocracy.

And that’s not all, because the man heavily promoted by Glenn Beck and Fox News as an expert on American history is also associated with the white supremacist hate group known as Christian Identity:

Barton found an eager audience for his Christian nationalist history on the right-wing fringe. In 1991, as the ADL has reported, he spoke at a summer gathering of Scriptures for America, a group founded by Pete Peters, a pastor in the Christian Identity movement. Christian Identity holds that Anglo-Saxons are the true children of Israel, while Jews are the Satanic offspring of Eve’s liaison with the serpent in the Garden of Eden. Black people, according to Christian Identity theology, are a separate species of “mud people.” Other speakers at the meeting were Holocaust denier Malcolm Ross and white supremacist Richard Kelly Hoskins. Barton was advertised as “a new and special speaker” who would ask, “Was it the plan of our forefathers that America be the melting pot home of various religions and philosophies?” (One can assume that the answer was no.) On November 24 of that year, Barton spoke at another Christianity Identity gathering, this one in Oregon. According to the ADL, his self-published books were advertised in “The Watchman,” a Christian Identity publication.

Soon, though, Barton’s star started rising on the mainstream right, and he denounced Christian Identity, claiming that he hadn’t known he was addressing racist groups when he appeared at the movement’s meetings. That sounds implausible—it’s hard to imagine how one might speak at two white supremacist summits in five months by accident. Still, the association didn’t seem to hurt him. By the middle of the 1990s, every major religious right organization marketed Barton’s self-published books. In 1994, Newt Gingrich, then the House minority whip, praised Barton’s “wonderful” and “most useful” work, and, in 1997, Barton was elected vice chairman of the Texas Republican Party. The Bush campaign hired him to do clergy outreach in 2004.

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1 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:22:01pm

What’s really sad is that a history degree isn’t like rocket science. It’s not that hard to get.

(Full disclosure: I have a degree in history.)

2 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:23:07pm

The positive side of American culture is that anyone can make a contribution to it, regardless of vbackground or credentials. It keeps us vital and full of fresh ideas.

The downside of it is that people like this can find an audience that will take them seriously.

3 Kragar  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:23:29pm
it’s hard to imagine how one might speak at two white supremacist summits in five months by accident.

Well, these guy’s were all standing around asking if anyone had seen Kyle and he just wanted to help out.

Image: anyone-seen-kyle.jpg

4 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:26:52pm

re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Hotlink blocked.

5 researchok  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:29:38pm

The Tablet article is very, very good.

With this kind of revisionism, Beck’s appeal will be of limited duration. America will self correct as she always does.

Beck will remembered as a kinder, gentler Father Coughlin lite.

There just isn’t enough lipstick.

6 Kragar  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:30:34pm

re: #4 Obdicut

Hotlink blocked.

Bastards.

Image: Anyone-Seen-Kyle_500x500.jpg

7 researchok  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:30:42pm

re: #1 EmmmieG

What’s really sad is that a history degree isn’t like rocket science. It’s not that hard to get.

(Full disclosure: I have a degree in history.)

Might I suggest you skip the next class reunion.
//

8 darthstar  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:30:49pm

OT, but don’t want this to get missed…

Carl Paladino has a friend in Virginia…the head of the GOP there.

image of racist email David Bartholomew, Chair of the Virginia Beach Republican Committee, forwarded

Full Content:

MY DOG
I went down this morning to sign up my Dog for welfare.

At first the lady said, “Dogs are not eligible to draw welfare”.

So I explained to her that my Dog is black, unemployed, lazy, can’t speak
English and has no frigging clue who his Daddy is.

So she looked in her policy book to see what it takes to qualify…

My Dog gets his first check Friday.

Is this is a great country or what?

9 Kruk  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:31:37pm

The only Barton who would get me to watch Glenn Beck again is Micha.

10 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:33:37pm

re: #8 darthstar

OT, but don’t want this to get missed…

Carl Paladino has a friend in Virginia…the head of the GOP there.

image of racist email David Bartholomew, Chair of the Virginia Beach Republican Committee, forwarded

Full Content:

As I said downstairs, fucking UGGGHHHH

11 Kragar  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:33:39pm

re: #8 darthstar

OT, but don’t want this to get missed…

Carl Paladino has a friend in Virginia…the head of the GOP there.

image of racist email David Bartholomew, Chair of the Virginia Beach Republican Committee, forwarded

Full Content:

I love the fact that most of these rascist bastards have absolutely no clue how modern messaging technology works so we get to have plenty of these moments and we get to see what they really think.

12 Max  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:35:02pm

Andrew Sullivan posted about this yesterday; but after he ignored you on that Instapundit scoop, he doesn’t deserve a hat tip from you.

13 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:36:41pm

Oral Roberts?

900-foot jesus Oral Roberts?

14 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:38:10pm

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I love the fact that most of these rascist bastards have absolutely no clue how modern messaging technology works so we get to have plenty of these moments and we get to see what they really think.

Imagine old clueless guys screaming for their grandkids to come and reinstall windows for them


Now imagine them as racist crazies running for office!

15 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:38:46pm

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Well, they’re holding the NYS gubernatorial debate tonight. Of course, most folks will end up switching from that to the Yankee playoff game, which starts in the midst of the debate.

Other than Cuomo, this motley crew of candidates is something out of the cantina on Tatooine. A hive of scum and villainy. Between racist bigots like Paladino and Charles Barron (whose only reason for being on the ballot is because he thought a black guy should be on it), to Kristen Davis (whose claim to fame is being a madam), to a guy who somehow managed to get enough ballots to get on because rents are 2 damned high.

Paladino doesn’t know how the internets work. Go figure. Like that stuff will never come back to haunt him or anything… it’s apparently an endless fountain of filth.

16 darthstar  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:40:29pm
17 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:42:03pm

re: #16 darthstar

Christine O’Donnell likes Crabby Dicks

[Link: crooksandliars.com…]

I think she’s crabby because she swore off dicks…

///

18 Kragar  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:42:21pm

re: #14 WindUpBird

Imagine old clueless guys screaming for their grandkids to come and reinstall windows for them


Now imagine them as racist crazies running for office!

“BILLY! Get your ass in here! The computer’s got another virus thing!”

“Grandpa, you’re just getting popups because all those Asian porn sites you go to.”

“THATS A VIRUS!”

19 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:44:07pm

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

“BILLY! Get your ass in here! The computer’s got another virus thing!”

“Grandpa, you’re just getting popups because all those Asian porn sites you go to.”

“THATS A VIRUS!”

What a tale Paladino’s computer(s) (and those of other high-profile GOPers and TPers) would probably tell to a forensic computer tech…

20 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:45:56pm

Christian Identity holds that Anglo-Saxons are the true children of Israel, while Jews are the Satanic offspring of Eve’s liaison with the serpent in the Garden of Eden

What Bible are they reading? It’s not any Bible I’ve ever seen.

21 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:47:11pm

re: #20 EmmmieG

Christian Identity holds that Anglo-Saxons are the true children of Israel, while Jews are the Satanic offspring of Eve’s liaison with the serpent in the Garden of Eden

What Bible are they reading? It’s not any Bible I’ve ever seen.


I beilieve it is in the Gospel of St Adolf, otherwise known as Mein Kampf

22 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:47:41pm

I’m not even shocked anymore really. The modern right seems to want to associate with anyone no matter how nuts they are as long as they share the same agenda which is reactionary Christianity.

23 Kragar  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:47:59pm

re: #19 talon_262

What a tale Paladino’s computer(s) (and those of other high-profile GOPers and TPers) would probably tell to a forensic computer tech…

Give me access to the cookies and oh the story I could weave.

24 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:48:29pm

re: #22 HappyWarrior

I’m not even shocked anymore really. The modern right seems to want to associate with anyone no matter how nuts they are as long as they share the same agenda which is reactionary Christianity.

To clarify I am not saying all Christians are reactionaries or even most but the modern right is associating with people who actually believe the seperation of church is an evil thing.

25 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:49:02pm

re: #21 ralphieboy

I beilieve it is in the Gospel of St Adolf, otherwise known as Mein Kampf

With hymns sung in the key of MP40 and Zyklon B…

26 Kragar  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:49:05pm

re: #20 EmmmieG

Christian Identity holds that Anglo-Saxons are the true children of Israel, while Jews are the Satanic offspring of Eve’s liaison with the serpent in the Garden of Eden

What Bible are they reading? It’s not any Bible I’ve ever seen.

Of course you haven’t seen it. You’re not one of the true children of God to whom he has revealed the actual truth.
/

27 theheat  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:51:15pm

If David Barton was good enough for Newt and W, he’s good enough for Fox News and Glenn Beck.
/

28 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:57:31pm

re: #20 EmmmieG

Christian Identity holds that Anglo-Saxons are the true children of Israel, while Jews are the Satanic offspring of Eve’s liaison with the serpent in the Garden of Eden

What Bible are they reading? It’s not any Bible I’ve ever seen.

It’s pretty messed up stuff. Christian Identity is a huge part of the modern white supremacist movement.

29 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 12:58:44pm

By the way, the Guardian’s “recommendation” system for their comments is almost ridiculously easy to game. All you have to do is reload the page, and you can click again on the same “Recommend” link over and over. You can even double-click on a link and both clicks will be counted.

In case you’re wondering why the comments supporting these creeps have thousands of recommendations.

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk…]

30 theheat  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 1:05:32pm

re: #29 Charles

Maybe they’ve been hanging at the free section of hotscripts too long.

31 calochortus  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 1:05:57pm

re: #29 Charles

Thousands of recommendations? Don’t these people have anything to do?
Oh, wait…

32 researchok  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 1:13:36pm

re: #29 Charles

By the way, the Guardian’s “recommendation” system for their comments is almost ridiculously easy to game. All you have to do is reload the page, and you can click again on the same “Recommend” link over and over. You can even double-click on a link and both clicks will be counted.

In case you’re wondering why the comments supporting these creeps have thousands of recommendations.

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk…]

I did add a few comments to your original CIF post when I realized most of your critics could care less about your article on Geller and instead focused on excoriating you.

In reviewing just a few of the comments left on the CIF Spenser piece, it is clear the vast majority of those purporting to defend Geller could care less about her than they do in slandering you.

Plus ca change, plus ca reste la meme.

Instead of going ‘toe to toe’ with you on the merits of your arguments, they insist on making this personal- which, when all is said and done, is a piss poor way to look for credibility.

It astonishes me how many people do not get LGF, CJ or what goes on here, who nevertheless insist they do.

Yesterday, someone who saw my remarks on your CIF post wrote me and called me a ‘turncoat’.

Stupid is one deep canyon.

33 Lidane  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 1:17:34pm

re: #2 ralphieboy

The downside of it is that people like this can find an audience that will take them seriously.

Yeah. Including the Texas State Board of Education. David Barton was one of the “expert witnesses” brought in to testify about the textbook history standards when the SBOE decided that John Calvin was more relevant to American History than Thomas Jefferson.

Barton’s testimony will affect the textbooks that are produced for Texas and which are also bought by other states in the country. It’s a HUGE downside for anyone to take this douche seriously. He’s dumbing down the kids in this country and forcing colleges to pick up the slack, and just because he wants his Christianist version of history to be the only one that kids hear.

34 122 Year Old Obama  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 1:17:41pm

re: #19 talon_262

“This computer has too much computer in it and not enough typewriter.”

35 thatthatisis  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 1:19:25pm

Fanatical members of the religious right talk as if the Bible prohibits abortion and taxes, but is largely silent on feeding the poor.

The Tea Party claims to want to return to the Constitution, which, as Sarah Palin said, established God as the foundation of the nation.

Love of the Bible and the Constitution: required. Reading said documents: not so much.

36 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 1:19:30pm

re: #33 Lidane

Yeah. Including the Texas State Board of Education. David Barton was one of the “expert witnesses” brought in to testify about the textbook history standards when the SBOE decided that John Calvin was more relevant to American History than Thomas Jefferson.

Barton’s testimony will affect the textbooks that are produced for Texas and which are also bought by other states in the country. It’s a HUGE downside for anyone to take this douche seriously. He’s dumbing down the kids in this country and forcing colleges to pick up the slack, and just because he wants his Christianist version of history to be the only one that kids hear.

Agh he sounds like really bad news. Seriously, Calvin more important than Jefferson? I’d understand if we were Scotland but we’re not. Honestly from the little I know about Calvinism as a theology it really bothers me.

37 Lidane  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 1:22:48pm

re: #35 thatthatisis

There’s a great little article over at Newsweek that talks about how the Tea Party folks supposedly revere the Constitution, but get it wrong:

How Tea Partiers Get the Constitution Wrong

I was going to do a Page about it this morning, but I would’ve been late for class if I had. I think it’s a pretty interesting read.

38 Lidane  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 1:24:36pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

Agh he sounds like really bad news. Seriously, Calvin more important than Jefferson? I’d understand if we were Scotland but we’re not. Honestly from the little I know about Calvinism as a theology it really bothers me.

Yep. They threw Thomas Jefferson down the memory hole, and it was because of people like David Barton.

That’s why assholes like this matter in the long run. The warped history they sell is going to have an effect on what kids are taught down the line. It’s scary.

39 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 1:28:14pm

re: #38 Lidane

Yep. They threw Thomas Jefferson down the memory hole, and it was because of people like David Barton.

That’s why assholes like this matter in the long run. The warped history they sell is going to have an effect on what kids are taught down the line. It’s scary.

At least they’re honest about Jefferson being a proponent of seperation of church and state rather than trying to claim he would have supported their nonsense though of course excluding him for Calvin is bad for the students of Texas. Seriously, Calvin is important to world history but Jefferson is thousand times more vital to US history and Jefferson is important to both since his writings influenced revolutionaries throughout the world. I am sick of these people trying to force their narrow version of Christianity down everyone else’s throats. John Calvin acted like my Irish Catholic ancestors were heathens.

40 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 1:40:01pm

re: #14 WindUpBird

Imagine old clueless guys screaming for their grandkids to come and reinstall windows for them

Now imagine them as racist crazies running for office!

Watch it, punk. I would never have my kids install Windows for me. It was Ubuntu.

41 MartiansAteMyCat  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 8:21:52pm
Charles: (he has a bachelor’s degree in religious education from Oral Roberts University, the phoniest diploma in the US)

I’m curious as to what you meant by this. Are you saying that David Barton’s particular diploma is phony (and ironic), because of his misrepresentation of American history?

Or are you saying that any diploma from Oral Roberts University is phony?

I ask, because the latter statement doesn’t reflect well on you if that’s what you mean. Please… take issue with Oral Roberts and his family all you want. However, ORU the school is a fully accredited university… it’s not some backwater Bible college.

I myself graduated from ORU with a Telecommunications degree, and it opened up a lot of doors in the TV industry for me, believe it or not. The communications and business programs at ORU in particular pump a lot of highly-skilled graduates into the workforce, and employers know this. In my brief stint working in the insurance industry, I ran into a number of people who either attended or graduated from ORU.

While I may be very different from the person I was at the time I attended (I’m openly gay and no longer a Republican), I still get frustrated with being broad-brush painted with some of the admittedly outrageous things Oral said or did back in the 1980s. It reminds me of the time I traveled home by bus for the summer, when I struck up a conversation with an older woman sitting next to me. After she learned of where I was attending college, she began to make all sorts of inaccurate claims about ORU that she said she “heard on 60 Minutes.” But because she heard it from 60 Minutes, she refused to believe a live, in-the-flesh ORU student who was sitting next to her.

Sometimes, people simply don’t want to let go of their preconceived ideas. I sincerely hope that’s not the case with you.

42 Merkin  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 9:30:07pm

re: #41 MartiansAteMyCat

From what I heard of Oral Roberts I believe that both you and Charles can be right. Apparently Oral was much better at telecommunications than religion so one could expect the same of the school bearing his name.

43 MartiansAteMyCat  Mon, Oct 18, 2010 10:00:17pm

re: #42 Merkin

From what I heard of Oral Roberts I believe that both you and Charles can be right. Apparently Oral was much better at telecommunications than religion so one could expect the same of the school bearing his name.

Actually, Charles and I can certainly both have our own opinions about ORU degrees, but my issue is over the use of the word “phony” in this context. You may not like Oral Roberts, you may not even like the school founded with his name on it. That’s fair game. But accreditation is accreditation, which is completely separate from the fact you may dislike the institution or have little respect for the person who graduated from it. David Barton may be a phony, but his current occupation shouldn’t be used to tar everyone who graduated from ORU, nor should it be assumed that it was ORU that convinced him to pursue his historical theories. That was my only point.

44 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 6:54:03am
the white supremacist hate group known as Christian Identity

I don’t think it’s accurate to describe Christian Identity as a group. It is a movement, and as such consists of several groups that are connected yet distinct from another.


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