You’ve got to see what’s going on in the West Virginia Senate debate, where the Constitution Party’s candidate is a full-out 9/11 Truther, and Republican John Raese just said global warming is a “myth.”
Bad craziness breaking out all over the country tonight.
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laZardo Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:44:31pm |
West Virginia: Thank God For [dammit, i can’t think of a state because Mississippi got taken]
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jamesfirecat Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:45:00pm |
Out of curiosity is the Democrat from West Virginia in this race a global warming denier as well?
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laZardo Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:45:44pm |
Also…
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:47:41pm |
re: #2 jamesfirecat
Out of curiosity is the Democrat from West Virginia in this race a global warming denier as well?
I don’t know. He won’t vote for cap and trade, though. Even the current Democratic senator, Jay Rockefeller, has had to forswear any such legislation.
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freetoken Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:48:39pm |
re: #2 jamesfirecat
Out of curiosity is the Democrat from West Virginia in this race a global warming denier as well?
For practical purposes, yes.
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freetoken Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:49:29pm |
re: #3 laZardo
You’re outside of the country, perhaps that’s why.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:49:30pm |
I thought I’d be tricky and grab their live feed, but C-SPAN apparently has code to prevent it. And so it goes.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:49:30pm |
If America is lucky, the Constitution party maniac will draw votes from the GOP moron.
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darthstar Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:49:32pm |
OT: Downthread - Joe Miller’s security guards aren’t licensed.
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jaunte Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:49:56pm |
John Raese:
Raese supports eliminating the Federal minimum wage. He has said, “It’s an archaic system that has never worked.
Raese wants to eliminate the Department of Education, Department of Energy and the Internal Revenue Service.
Raese opposes abortion, human cloning and federally funded stem cell research.
Raese favors repealing the entire health care reform bill enacted in 2010.
Raese opposes the repeal of the Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy that does not permit gays to openly serve in the US military.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:50:45pm |
re: #4 Dark_Falcon
I don’t know. He won’t vote for cap and trade, though. Even the current Democratic senator, Jay Rockefeller, has had to forswear any such legislation.
Curious how much the GOP hates that since it was an initiative that was created by St. Reagan the Gipper and it rather effectively countered the acid rain problem.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:51:15pm |
re: #8 LudwigVanQuixote
If America is lucky, the Constitution party maniac will draw votes from the GOP moron.
Damn it how does that line go… you can tell the chosen one by the fact that a confederation of dunces rally against him?
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jamesfirecat Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:52:14pm |
re: #12 LudwigVanQuixote
Curious how much the GOP hates that since it was an initiative that was created by St. Reagan the Gipper and it rather effectively countered the acid rain problem.
Saint Ray-gun the Saint and guiding light of the Republican Party has about as much to do with Ronald Regan as the Emperor of Man Kind does with the decaying corpse being worshiped by trillions upon his golden throne.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:52:16pm |
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engineer cat Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:52:33pm |
global warming is a “myth.”
satan is manipulating the thermometers to mislead us into sin
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freetoken Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:53:36pm |
He want’s to see “America rise again?…..
Good grief, now the GOP is borrowing terms from neo-confederates?
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:53:42pm |
re: #16 engineer dog
global warming is a “myth.”
satan is manipulating the thermometers to mislead us into sin
You gotta admit, Satan is creative. That’s even better than burying dinosaur bits to lead us into sin.
Or, wait, is God testing our faith by manipulating the thermometers? This is too complicated.
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brookly red Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:53:58pm |
re: #11 freetoken
Coal mining is very important to WV.
well yes but that coal provides the power for a number of other states. I don’t think coal is a good energy source but till something else comes on line you can’t knock WV for lighting PA…
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jamesfirecat Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:54:07pm |
re: #16 engineer dog
global warming is a “myth.”
satan is manipulating the thermometers to mislead us into sin
Lead us not to Temptations but instead to Basken Robbins with 32 flavors of salvation!
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:54:12pm |
re: #18 freetoken
He want’s to see “America rise again?…
Good grief, now the GOP is borrowing terms from neo-confederates?
What would America ‘rising again’ look like, exactly?
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:54:44pm |
re: #11 freetoken
Coal mining is very important to WV.
As, is the Marcellus Shale. Just waiting to be sold & valued & developed.
It’s a blessing & a curse to me, personally.
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researchok Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:55:41pm |
Manchin outclasses the field by a wide margin.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:55:47pm |
re: #11 freetoken
Coal mining is very important to WV.
Here we have the backbone of the Democratic indifference to real action on climate change. The coal miners represent a lot of votes and the coal industry represents many towns that will go away if mining shuts down.
This is a knotty problem, that in typical Dem fashion, they figure can be kicked down the road.
The only thing for those people is to create programs to get them into other jobs. Just burning coal will NOT help anyone, even the miners in the long run. They are in a classic pay me now (and it will suck) or pay me later (and it will suck for them and everyone else a lot more).
If we were to expand and modernize the power grid alone we could create tens of thousands of jobs. If we add wind, solar and nuclear into the mix, it becomes millions of jobs.
Economically, looking at America as a whole, coal should be dead for that reason and the immediate environmental damage alone. However, just as the GOP has its masters in the oil baron world, and for that matter the coal company owners, the Dems have to contend with miners who are quite rightly afraid of losing their jobs.
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freetoken Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:56:02pm |
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brookly red Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:56:37pm |
re: #22 SanFranciscoZionist
What would America ‘rising again’ look like, exactly?
everyone would have a job, and the people who put pineapple on pizza would be in re-education camps…
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sagehen Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:56:38pm |
re: #2 jamesfirecat
Out of curiosity is the Democrat from West Virginia in this race a global warming denier as well?
No, he just thinks protecting West Virginia’s coal industry is more important than climate.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:57:32pm |
re: #19 SanFranciscoZionist
You gotta admit, Satan is creative. That’s even better than burying dinosaur bits to lead us into sin.
Or, wait, is God testing our faith by manipulating the thermometers? This is too complicated.
Theological question for those faiths that have an active, free-willed Satan… How does he do anything without G-d’s permission? And, if so, why blame Satan and not G-d?
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sagehen Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:58:07pm |
re: #19 SanFranciscoZionist
You gotta admit, Satan is creative. That’s even better than burying dinosaur bits to lead us into sin.
Or, wait, is God testing our faith by manipulating the thermometers? This is too complicated.
The flying spaghetti monster touched them with his noodly appendage.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:58:45pm |
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:59:12pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 18, 2010 5:59:17pm |
re: #12 LudwigVanQuixote
Curious how much the GOP hates that since it was an initiative that was created by St. Reagan the Gipper and it rather effectively countered the acid rain problem.
Times change. The Democrats embraced the idea to deal with AGW and the Republicans reacted by opposing it. But in some cases, it simply comes down to whether you need voters in coal mining areas to form a winning coalition. In West Virginia, such areas are key for both parties. In Illinois, a Democrat can win without such areas but a Republican cannot.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 18, 2010 6:00:54pm |
re: #34 Dark_Falcon
Times change. The Democrats embraced the idea to deal with AGW and the Republicans reacted by opposing it. But in some cases, it simply comes down to whether you need voters in coal mining areas to form a winning coalition. In West Virginia, such areas are key for both parties. In Illinois, a Democrat can win without such areas but a Republican cannot.
Perhaps, but the entire GOP has come out against it, even after some of them, like McCain and Palin ran on it. No, this is just a simple case of the GOP being a good lapdog for their corporate masters.
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engineer cat Mon, Oct 18, 2010 6:01:00pm |
re: #30 LudwigVanQuixote
Theological question for those faiths that have an active, free-willed Satan… How does he do anything without G-d’s permission? And, if so, why blame Satan and not G-d?
i think you have to go back to zoroastrians and manicheans to get a satan independant of G-d
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 18, 2010 6:01:28pm |
re: #26 LudwigVanQuixote
Here we have the backbone of the Democratic indifference to real action on climate change. The coal miners represent a lot of votes and the coal industry represents many towns that will go away if mining shuts down.
This is a knotty problem, that in typical Dem fashion, they figure can be kicked down the road.
The only thing for those people is to create programs to get them into other jobs. Just burning coal will NOT help anyone, even the miners in the long run. They are in a classic pay me now (and it will suck) or pay me later (and it will suck for them and everyone else a lot more).
If we were to expand and modernize the power grid alone we could create tens of thousands of jobs. If we add wind, solar and nuclear into the mix, it becomes millions of jobs.
Economically, looking at America as a whole, coal should be dead for that reason and the immediate environmental damage alone. However, just as the GOP has its masters in the oil baron world, and for that matter the coal company owners, the Dems have to contend with miners who are quite rightly afraid of losing their jobs.
I was going to add to this, but this post is so good it only needs to be updinged.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Oct 18, 2010 6:02:29pm |
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 18, 2010 6:02:50pm |
re: #36 engineer dog
i think you have to go back to zoroastrians and manicheans to get a satan independant of G-d
Exactly.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 18, 2010 6:03:06pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Oct 18, 2010 6:06:35pm |
re: #40 LudwigVanQuixote
Yes thank you! And you?
To quote Dave Ramsey, “Better than I deserve!”.
AKA peachy keen. A little lonely, but working on that. Lots skinnier, and happier!
Lots of WV projects, *SIGH*but they are found money, and cleaning up the books for the future.
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