Canadian Government Denounces Sharron Angle’s Ludicrous Border Claim

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As mentioned recently on LGF, Nevada Tea Party crazy lady Sharron Angle, in her ridiculous speech to a Hispanic student union, claimed that the 9/11 hijackers came through the Canadian border — calling it “the most porous border we have.”

Leaving aside the sheer deceptive stupidity of trying to float this nonsense, while her campaign relentlessly demonizes undocumented immigrants from Mexico, Angle is now in hot water with the Canadian government: Ottawa tells tea-party backed candidate 9/11 hijackers didn’t come from Canada.

Ambassador Gary Doer has written to Republican Senate candidate Sharron Angle, who last week referred to the U.S.-Canadian border as “the most porous border” the country has.

Angle, a tea party-backed candidate running a close race in Nevada against Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, said “what we know is our northern border is where the terrorists came through.”

In his note to Angle on Monday, Doer emphasized that “none of the 9/11 hijackers entered the United States from or through Canada.”

He said extensive investigations by U.S. law enforcement authorities have established that all of the hijackers entered the U.S. directly from third countries – not Canada – with visas issued by U.S. diplomats.

Ambassador Doer ended the letter with this:

“I can assure you that Canada takes border security very seriously and trust you will see fit to set the record straight.”

Right. Good luck with that.

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45 comments
1 darthstar  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:36:47pm

I've been arguing (sarcastically) for a wall across Canada for years...but it would cut into a lot of Americans' access to affordable prescription drugs.

2 SpaceJesus  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:38:41pm

Having knowledge of history, current affairs, cultures, geography etc. precludes one from being a conservative in the first place.

3 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:39:40pm

This is way too farkin' obvious

4 researchok  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:39:45pm

My antipathy towards Canada would dissipate if they allowed the export of Smoked Meat and Poutine.

If the problem is on our end, I'd vote for a Democrat if that were a party plank.

//

5 jaunte  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:41:57pm

If we had any more neighbors to insult, Sharron Angle would be on the case.

6 [deleted]  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:43:41pm
7 researchok  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:44:39pm

re: #6 MikeySDCA

OT Breaking
US military accepting gay recruits

I see new lawyer ads on TV and bus benches...

8 garhighway  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:48:06pm

re: #7 researchok

I see new lawyer ads on TV and bus benches...

What would those ads say?

9 freetoken  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:48:15pm

re: #5 jaunte

Somebody should ask her a question, posing fear, about the vast number of Puerto Ricans which roam freely about this country - just to see how she reacts.

10 philosophus invidius  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:48:27pm

Just walked passed the depressing sight of university students holding up signs supporting Sharron Angle.

11 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:49:08pm

Canada is where all the illegal alien Asians come from. The ones pictured in Angle's ad.

12 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:50:49pm

re: #2 SpaceJesus

Having knowledge of history, current affairs, cultures, geography etc. precludes one from being a conservative in the first place.

Truth has a liberal bias...

I am sorry for the off topic, but I would like to debunk some scientific fraud.

Remember the tabletop experiment that shows CO2 absorbing IR in the atmosphere that I posted about?

Apparently, the frauds at WUWT have made a counterclaim about it.

[Link: wattsupwiththat.com...]

Just to debunk it...

The proper demonstration uses a powerful 200W lamp that gives off a lot of IR, right up close to the tanks.

This is done so all of the light emitted has a chance to go into the tanks and most importantly to compensate for the tanks equilibrating to room temperature.

A tank of any hot fluid will come to room temperature. Gasses with low specific heats, and in think walled tanks with lots of surface area will cool to room temp very quickly.

This is basic thermo. Something which none of them understands.

So, WUWT, "did the experiment" by placing the tanks about a half meter back from a 60W house bulb.

Of those 60 W, most of course, went up towards the celing or down towards the table, and only a fraction of that energy was available to interact with the tanks.

Just to make certain they could skew the results some more, the WUWT people used a cold room. Heat transfers faster, the greater the difference in temperature. This is also basic physics.

So yes, WUWT, when you skew something so it won't work, it doesn't work. Good show cretins.

13 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:51:55pm

Securing the northern boarder could help keep the Paulians out. I have no idea why Ron Paul appeals to Canadians so much.

14 Stanghazi  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:51:56pm

re: #6 MikeySDCA

OT Breaking
US military accepting gay recruits

Crowd of about 100 outside Times Square recruitment center as Dan Choi attempts to re-enlist

15 researchok  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:53:14pm

re: #8 garhighway

What would those ads say?

Have you ever wanted to sign up but were discouraged because you were gay?

Were you in the service and had to hide your sexual identity?
/

16 Linden Arden  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:54:48pm

Why don't those damned health-care single-paying Canadians have any teabaggers?

Can we send them ours?

17 darthstar  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:56:30pm

3-0

18 garhighway  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:57:24pm

re: #15 researchok

Have you ever wanted to sign up but were discouraged because you were gay?

Were you in the service and had to hide your sexual identity?
/

I thought that the point was that recruits could now just walk in and sign up.

No lawyer needed. Which would make the lawyer superfluous.

Or was there more to this than that?

19 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:57:41pm

re: #16 Linden Arden

Why don't those damned health-care single-paying Canadians have any teabaggers?

Can we send them ours?

I suppose that would be payback for Celine Dion.

21 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:58:15pm

Canada attempts to secure its people from Angle incursions:

Air Canada ordered to create nut-free buffer zones

.

.


.

ok, it's about peanut allergies....

22 Batman  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:58:52pm

Next she'll say she mispoke and that the hijackers actually came from our border with Russia via Alaska, and then Palin will come in and back her up and say those are the things she she was talking about that she had to deal with when she was governor.

23 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:58:57pm

re: #10 philosophus invidius

Just walked passed the depressing sight of university students holding up signs supporting Sharron Angle.

I weep for the republic.

24 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:59:25pm
25 Linden Arden  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 2:59:31pm

re: #19 LudwigVanQuixote

I suppose that would be payback for Celine Dion.

I would gladly exchange 20 million teabaggers for a case of Moosehead and an old hockey puck.

26 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 3:00:14pm

re: #25 Linden Arden

I would gladly exchange 20 million teabaggers for a case of Moosehead and an old hockey puck.

the canadians wouldn't take'em

27 researchok  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 3:00:43pm

re: #23 LudwigVanQuixote

I weep for the republic.

Look at the bright side.

It isn't as if they were rioting in France.

//

28 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 3:00:57pm

re: #25 Linden Arden

re: #26 wozzablog

Maybe we take Quebec and they take the teabags?

Sounds fair to me really.

29 researchok  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 3:01:52pm

re: #24 LudwigVanQuixote

Typical.

He'll be home with a new 'manservant' in 3 weeks.

It's good to be a prince.

30 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 3:02:00pm

re: #14 Stanley Sea

Crowd of about 100 outside Times Square recruitment center as Dan Choi attempts to re-enlist

America - fuck yeah!

31 Jadespring  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 3:02:03pm

re: #13 Killgore Trout

Securing the northern boarder could help keep the Paulians out. I have no idea why Ron Paul appeals to Canadians so much.

He does?

32 Jadespring  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 3:03:06pm

re: #16 Linden Arden

Why don't those damned health-care single-paying Canadians have any teabaggers?

Can we send them ours?

We do have a few. There was a lady who protested something last month that said she was part of the new Canadian Tea Party.

33 Jadespring  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 3:03:57pm

re: #32 Jadespring

We do have a few. There was a lady who protested something last month that said she was part of the new Canadian Tea Party.

To add: So we have at least one teabagger hanging around somewhere.

34 engineer cat  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 3:05:00pm

re: #16 Linden Arden

Why don't those damned health-care single-paying Canadians have any teabaggers?

Can we send them ours?

Right-Wing Extremism In Canada
While racism has always existed in Canada, the last hundred years have seen the proliferation of organized and coordinated efforts to promote hatred against minorities in this country.

Virtually all ethnic and religious communities have been the targets of White supremacist racism. The subjugation and degradation of Canada's First Nations was only the first in a long line of racist bigotry and violence in this country. In the first half of the twentieth century, Quebec was home to the strongly anti-Semitic Nationalist Movement, which was dominated by extremist elements in the Roman Catholic Church. Following the Second World War, the Nationalist Quebec government actively helped French Nazis immigrate to Canada.

The Ku Klux Klan came to this country in the early 1900s, and has been a major player in Canada's racist scene ever since. Like its American counterpart, the Canadian Klan directs its hate against Blacks, Catholics and Native Canadians. In the last 95 years, numerous hate groups have gained a foothold in this country. These groups, which are intimately interconnected, include Citizens for Foreign Aid Reform (C-FAR), the Western Guard, the Hammerskins, the Heritage Front, and the Nationalist Party of Canada....

"hammerskins"???

35 Linden Arden  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 3:05:29pm

Fun quiz here --

Libertarian or Rapper? Take the Quiz.

10 questions - I failed (5 of 10)

36 JamesWI  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 3:31:47pm

So, basically all current right-wingers state that our taxes are too high and advocate cuts, correct?

So how much money do they think "securing" a 2000 mile border (US-Mexico) and a 4000 mile border (US-Canada, not counting the 1500 mile border with Alaska) will cost, and how do they expect to pay for it? Can anyone even fathom the cost? Building a 2000 mile long fence/wall that is too high and dangerous to climb, and too deep for most to tunnel (of course, no matter how deep it goes, there will be tunnels)? The number of border patrol agents to cover those vast expanses of land (and water) to make sure no one is coming through?

Have any of the people who campaign based on immigration offered up an estimate on what it will cost to truly secure our borders? "Something must be done" or "build that fence/wall" are not reasonable answers.

37 nines09  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 3:35:26pm

I can't wait for this foaming idiot to go back into the shadows. Can you imagine the multi-billion dollar spin machine she would need to sound sane? I wish some Canook would high stick the hoser.

38 Petero1818  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 4:30:10pm

We have a mayoral election in Toronto next week and one of the 2 frontrunners is a guy named Rob Ford. I would say he is a Canadian Tea Bagger (which is to say he is a kinder gentler version of Carl Paladino - basically just a really pissed off "average" guy who is going to take everyone and everything on) The thing that is unlikely to fly up here in Canada is the social agenda. Canadians simply won't tolerate religion mixed in with our politics or our schools.

39 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 5:37:51pm

re: #16 Linden Arden

Why don't those damned health-care single-paying Canadians have any teabaggers?

Can we send them ours?

We've got a few I'm afraid. In fact one of them is our Prime Minister at the moment. Fortunately they're a minority government so they can't do much damage.

40 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 5:39:37pm

re: #19 LudwigVanQuixote

I suppose that would be payback for Celine Dion.

We're really sorry about that.

Maybe Spirit of The West would make up for it.

41 Buck  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 8:36:21pm

Just to mention for points, Gary Doer (Ambassador Gary Doer) is a friend of mine. He is from Winnipeg, like me, and we did more that a few radio spots on the same station, and met many times socially.

He is also about as left as you can get with being called extreme.

42 ClaudeMonet  Tue, Oct 19, 2010 9:12:53pm

re: #35 Linden Arden

Fun quiz here --

Libertarian or Rapper? Take the Quiz.

10 questions - I failed (5 of 10)

Six out of ten here. Unsurprising, since I rarely pay serious attention to libertarians and never to rappers.

43 GeorgetownPress  Wed, Oct 20, 2010 7:24:42am

Unfortunately, the belief that some 9/11 hijackers came from Canada is a widely held notion, even by people who should be well acquainted with the subject. For example, in October 2009 the long-serving Chinese Military Attaché in Ottawa, Senior Colonel Cai Ping (蔡 平 大校), made the same claims. Colonel Cai is no meager man, he is the longest serving PRC Military Attaché to Ottawa to date and from discussions I have had with a leading Canadian General, he is an extremely well informed individual knowing mundane details about Canadian military orders. The lore of the "world's longest undefended border"makes people uncritically accept claims of this sort because it fits the narrative they are trying to paint, but it is not consciously deceptive nor reflective of a particularly stupidity. People will generally uncritically accept widely repeated falsehoods if it fits the narrative they wish to promote.

Sharron Angle's doing so in this particular case is probably not reflective of a particular deviousness or stupidity, but instead the acceptance and repetition of a widely believed falsehood that is typical of all politicians (and most other human beings). The difference in this case is that she repeated such a falsehood which had a important ambassador to rebut it and thus that rebuttal had a wide audience.

44 Scootercat  Wed, Oct 20, 2010 7:58:09am

mmmm...a Northern border fence, and auxiliary police to control the crossings, sounds really good to me...if it keeps erstwhile candidates/fallen governors from Alaska as far from DC as possible...

45 Øyvind Strømmen  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:28:53am

"in hot water with the Canadian government"

Wow. Who would have thought that even possible? ;)


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