Christine O’Donnell Ditches Pamela Geller, Geller Shrieks

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Pamela Geller is now officially radioactive.

Christine O’Donnell deleted Geller’s name from her endorsements page.

And the shrieking harpy is raging like a lunatic, and withdrawing her endorsement of O’Donnell. Shocka!

HOW AFRAID THEY ARE OF ONE LITTLE JEWISH BIGMOUTH WITH A BLOG IN NEW JACK CITY!!!1ty

Right, everyone’s terrified of the shrieking harpy’s wrath. Snort.

Christine O’Donnell has caved to Salon. No, this is not satire. She actually removed my endorsement from her endorsement page. That took, what? Five minutes? Unbelievable, caving to the crazies at Salon whose currency is destroying voices of reason. It is a pity that a “maverick” and “outsider” would lack any spine and exhibit such incredible political cowardice. ENDORSEMENT WITHDRAWN. It’s a shame that this is the quality of people we have representing us against the Obama machine. How can we win?

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84 comments
1 boxhead  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 3:22:37am

LOL.... how precious this story is. I just hope all nuts similarly implode before election day.

2 Kronocide  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 3:25:00am

So O'Donnell is not 'I'm You' to Pamz?

3 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 3:33:17am

How can she ever win?

A song dedicated to Christine, fitting in more ways than one:

Youtube Video

Will you ever win, Christine?

4 Surabaya Stew  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 3:36:29am

So this is the sort of news that drives one to post in the middle of the night?

As to why I'm awake myself, it was the thought of a cold piece of Popeye's fried chicken that rose me from slumber, so its not as if I have any real news to report.

:-D

5 washsox  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 3:43:54am

Quality of people, Ms. Harpy, er... Geller?

You look in the mirror lately? *sound of glass shattering*

6 freetoken  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 3:45:32am
Pamela Geller is now officially radioactive.

Maybe someone should get her one of these for Christmas?

7 EdDantes  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 3:48:43am

O'Donell's candidacy died with the 1st amendment gaffe. Why would she jettison any endorsement?

8 researchok  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 3:51:52am

Morning, all!

9 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 3:52:57am

Her candidacy was dead long before her 1st amendment gaffe, it was one of the few times I found that I agreed with Karl Rove's public assessment of anything.

10 researchok  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 3:53:05am

I can't imagine Geller didn't know this was coming.

11 The Curmudgeon  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 3:53:57am

Not only beauty, but integrity too. Go, Christine!
/ yeah, sarc

12 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 3:55:40am

Geller always seems to have her cultural reference dial set on 'random'.

New Jack City? What the hell?

13 researchok  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 3:58:00am

As far as I concerned, the story is more about Geller. She is becoming more and more toxic.

Even a whackjob like O'Donnell understands that Geller is a liability.

You can't repackage bigots into something palatable, no matter how hard you try. Not even an American flag changes that truth.

14 researchok  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 3:58:46am

re: #12 Obdicut

Geller always seems to have her cultural reference dial set on 'random'.

New Jack City? What the hell?

Middle Age crisis thing.

She's 'hip'.

15 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:00:31am

re: #12 Obdicut

Geller always seems to have her cultural reference dial set on 'random'.

New Jack City? What the hell?

Book 'em Danno!

16 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:01:15am

re: #13 researchok

Except for all the bigots who are running on an anti-mosque campaign, of course. Which is tons of them. So no, you're wrong about bigotry not being politically viable.

I mean, hell, Geller is one of the main sources of the anti-mosque rhetoric. Yet, even though she's 'toxic', you still have huge numbers of mainstream GOP engaging in anti-Muslim, Christian exceptionalist rhetoric.

17 researchok  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:02:01am

re: #16 Obdicut

Except for all the bigots who are running on an anti-mosque campaign, of course. Which is tons of them. So no, you're wrong about bigotry not being politically viable.

I mean, hell, Geller is one of the main sources of the anti-mosque rhetoric. Yet, even though she's 'toxic', you still have huge numbers of mainstream GOP engaging in anti-Muslim, Christian exceptionalist rhetoric.

No cure for stupid.

18 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:03:33am

re: #16 Obdicut

Except for all the bigots who are running on an anti-mosque campaign, of course. Which is tons of them. So no, you're wrong about bigotry not being politically viable.

I mean, hell, Geller is one of the main sources of the anti-mosque rhetoric. Yet, even though she's 'toxic', you still have huge numbers of mainstream GOP engaging in anti-Muslim, Christian exceptionalist rhetoric.

Sadly, the vast majority of Americans fell for it.
:/

19 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:05:57am

re: #18 Varek Raith

Sadly, the vast majority of Americans fell for it.
:/


That is the point, and it is part of a conscious decision on the part of the GOP leadership: they have decided that they will pick up more votes on the right for being bigoted than they will alienate in the middle.

20 researchok  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:06:16am

re: #18 Varek Raith

Sadly, the vast majority of Americans fell for it.
:/

The primary reason for the GOP's resurgence in this election cycle isn't bigotry.

GOP voters may be turning a blind eye but bigotry isn't the driving force.

21 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:09:39am

re: #17 researchok

Well, there is one way to prophylacticly prevent it; don't encourage it. This is where the GOP is failing massively, and has been failing massively since Obama has been elected. The most hyperbolic rhetoric used to attack Obama-- socialist, Marxist-- has been a-ok. O'Donnell is not the only person who is running on Christian exceptionlism, either; she's just the stupidest and newest.

22 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:09:50am

True, the main driving force is disaffection with politics in general, and with the ruling party in particular. The Republicans would be winning without haveing to play to the bigoted, but they cannot seem to refrain from it.

To the point that it could become counter-productive.

23 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:12:12am

re: #20 researchok

There isn't a single driving force. But that's not the point. The GOP could have picked up a large number of seats with pretty much any slate of candidates they chose to run; it's a midterm election, the economy is perceived as bad, unemployment as high.

The people who won the GOP midterms, however, did, in many cases, win through bigotry and craziness. That is the point. Instead of electing sane, responsible people, the GOP primary voters chose the logical result of the endorsement of bigotry by the GOP leadership; many crazy-ass candidates with bigoted positions. And those 'normal' GOP members who won their primaries very frequently also co-opted the bigotry of the moment to win their primaries.

24 researchok  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:14:34am

re: #21 Obdicut

Well, there is one way to prophylacticly prevent it; don't encourage it. This is where the GOP is failing massively, and has been failing massively since Obama has been elected. The most hyperbolic rhetoric used to attack Obama-- socialist, Marxist-- has been a-ok. O'Donnell is not the only person who is running on Christian exceptionlism, either; she's just the stupidest and newest.

I agree with much of that. The GOP is imploding because they can't find a coherent message. Still, voters are frustrated- and the GOP by default and despite the idiots are reaping the benefits.

25 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:17:03am

This is the first time I've seen a wingnut flaunt her Jewish background to justify an far-right wing political stance. I'm used to hearing some Jews on the hard left start their arguments with "I'm Jewish, and [therefore have to slam Israel to defend my faith]."

I'm tired of these self-righteous individuals who claim to speak for the Jews or Judaism. They should speak for themselves.

26 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:21:32am

re: #25 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey

This is the first time I've seen a wingnut flaunt her Jewish background to justify an far-right wing political stance. I'm used to hearing some Jews on the hard left start their arguments with "I'm Jewish, and [therefore have to slam Israel to defend my faith]."

I'm tired of these self-righteous individuals who claim to speak for the Jews or Judaism. They should speak for themselves.

Geller has done this countless times.

27 researchok  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:22:08am

re: #23 Obdicut

There isn't a single driving force. But that's not the point. The GOP could have picked up a large number of seats with pretty much any slate of candidates they chose to run; it's a midterm election, the economy is perceived as bad, unemployment as high.

The people who won the GOP midterms, however, did, in many cases, win through bigotry and craziness. That is the point. Instead of electing sane, responsible people, the GOP primary voters chose the logical result of the endorsement of bigotry by the GOP leadership; many crazy-ass candidates with bigoted positions. And those 'normal' GOP members who won their primaries very frequently also co-opted the bigotry of the moment to win their primaries.

That's why I always harp on good governance.

While it is true midterm elections favor the out of power party, I really believe the shift would not be as dramatic as it is if the focus was where it counted.

You mention mainstream bigotry- that is absurd. Americans aren't voting GOP because they are bigots. They are voting GOP despite the bigots. Americans want good government, responsible spending and all the rest.

Alluding to the vast majority of mainstream GOP voters as bigots may be a 'feel good' issue for some, but in the end that kind of division won't have traction.

Calling an independent voter a bigot won't because he's unhappy won't pay off.

28 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:22:28am

re: #24 researchok

Yes. But as well as reaping the benefits, they're legitimizing bigotry and telling their constituents that bigotry is acceptable, even desirable. In addition, I think it would be foolish to think that this bigotry will stop after this election; I think the members who have been elected with endorsement of bigotry will be compelled to cater to those bigots, to the anti-science brigade that dominates the GOP, to the 'no compromise' radicalized base. I think, if the GOP does with the house, we're going to see a very embarrassing era for the GOP, and a very harmful one for the United States, as they attempt to use the mechanism of government to prosecute their crazy-ass, bigoted agendas.

They're already targeting the EPA, for example. You can expect to see tons of Obama administration officials forced to come before congress and defend, well, science and sanity. More crap like when Dr. Chu was forced to endure a young earth creationist lunatic asking him how the oil got there.

29 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:23:23am

re: #28 Obdicut

It's too early for you to be on a roll like this.
;)

30 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:24:45am

One problem with the modern conservative movement is that it has put the priority of winning elections over good governance. They have proved this time and time again.

Karl Rove's complaints about CO'D were not about her ability to govern, they were about her very electability, but he was slapped down for calling that into question.

31 Intenzity  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:26:15am

Wait..did Christine O'donnell just do something smart?

What??

32 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:27:36am

re: #27 researchok

You mention mainstream bigotry- that is absurd. Americans aren't voting GOP because they are bigots. They are voting GOP despite the bigots. Americans want good government, responsible spending and all the rest.

I'm sorry, but to say that it's absurd that there's mainstream bigotry while we don't have gay marriage is, also, absurd.

I realize you don't want, for whatever reason, to admit that bigotry is still a gigantic, and mainstream problem in the US.


Alluding to the vast majority of mainstream GOP voters as bigots may be a 'feel good' issue for some, but in the end that kind of division won't have traction.

So your claim is that GOP primary voters secretly hate the bigotry of the candidates they voted for, over other GOP candidates, but they just had to do it because...?

Calling an independent voter a bigot won't because he's unhappy won't pay off.

I'm not looking for a payoff. I have no idea what you're talking about.

I do think bigotry needs to be confronted. The current state we're in has come from a lack of confrontation and calling out of bigotry where it exists, where it is being exploited, and where it is being fostered.

The GOP, through its alliance with and catering to the Tea Party, is doing a gigantic amount of catering to and legitimizing of bigots. And many of the candidates that won GOP primaries were the more bigoted of the options.

You really need to account for that, and claiming that they won despite their bigotry would require you to support that claim with an argument of some sort.

33 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:28:48am

Teaching creationism and political revisionism in public schools is also a symptom of mainstream bigotry.

34 researchok  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:31:48am

re: #28 Obdicut

Yes. But as well as reaping the benefits, they're legitimizing bigotry and telling their constituents that bigotry is acceptable, even desirable. In addition, I think it would be foolish to think that this bigotry will stop after this election; I think the members who have been elected with endorsement of bigotry will be compelled to cater to those bigots, to the anti-science brigade that dominates the GOP, to the 'no compromise' radicalized base. I think, if the GOP does with the house, we're going to see a very embarrassing era for the GOP, and a very harmful one for the United States, as they attempt to use the mechanism of government to prosecute their crazy-ass, bigoted agendas.

They're already targeting the EPA, for example. You can expect to see tons of Obama administration officials forced to come before congress and defend, well, science and sanity. More crap like when Dr. Chu was forced to endure a young earth creationist lunatic asking him how the oil got there.

You know where I stand, politically. No secret there. I'm not a huge Obama (his economic policies) fan but I actually like the guy. He's done some bang up work.

Further, I admire his efforts in trying to deal with what are usually third rail issues.

I'm hoping you are wrong about the GOP House. I'm hoping they will come to their senses and boot the lunatics out. That may or may not happen. If it does, great- if it doesn't, the Dems will have a deserved field day.

That said, while the Tea party may not be fully formed (read: mature) when it comes to ideas, make no mistake - they have touched a nerve with many Americans, even those who won't identify with them. They represent a frustration with Washington's business as usual crowd. It is true there are elements that have attached themselves to the Tea Party, but those elements do not represent the vast majority of frustrated voters.

Calling these voters racists may have a short term benefits but in th elong run I believe it is a mistake. You have to distinguish between Tea Party voters and the politicians and agendistas who manipulate and benefit from the voters frustrations.

35 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:35:04am

re: #34 researchok

You know where I stand, politically. No secret there. I'm not a huge Obama (his economic policies) fan but I actually like the guy. He's done some bang up work.

Further, I admire his efforts in trying to deal with what are usually third rail issues.

I'm hoping you are wrong about the GOP House. I'm hoping they will come to their senses and boot the lunatics out. That may or may not happen. If it does, great- if it doesn't, the Dems will have a deserved field day.

That said, while the Tea party may not be fully formed (read: mature) when it comes to ideas, make no mistake - they have touched a nerve with many Americans, even those who won't identify with them. They represent a frustration with Washington's business as usual crowd. It is true there are elements that have attached themselves to the Tea Party, but those elements do not represent the vast majority of frustrated voters.

Calling these voters racists may have a short term benefits but in th elong run I believe it is a mistake. You have to distinguish between Tea Party voters and the politicians and agendistas who manipulate and benefit from the voters frustrations.

The entire Teaparty leadership is full of nutters.

36 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:35:54am

re: #34 researchok

Drive by bash! I'm headed to kentucky.


You're nicer than I am, I think he's, ummm, sophisticated but not all that bright. I warned my friends that voted Obama in '08 that they were putting a man in office who can give a great speech but hadn't actually done anything to warrant the "smartest man on the planet!" talk. The fact that he can pronounce the word "nuclear" doesn't make him an intellectual heavyweight. I think 2 years in my view has been more than vindicated.

I'll repeat..... "Just because it works on paper doesn't mean it's going to work in a real-life application". If we had elected a man who had ever actually had a job outside the academic world, he would have already known that.

37 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:35:58am

re: #35 Varek Raith

The entire Teaparty leadership is full of nutters.

SoCon, religious right, anti science nutters.
I will not respect those who support these views.

38 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:37:24am

re: #34 researchok

That said, while the Tea party may not be fully formed (read: mature) when it comes to ideas, make no mistake - they have touched a nerve with many Americans, even those who won't identify with them. They represent a frustration with Washington's business as usual crowd. It is true there are elements that have attached themselves to the Tea Party, but those elements do not represent the vast majority of frustrated voters.

They also, as recent information about them has shown, represent bigoted Christian exceptionalists. Do you accept that?

[Link: depts.washington.edu...]


Calling these voters racists may have a short term benefits but in th elong run I believe it is a mistake. You have to distinguish between Tea Party voters and the politicians and agendistas who manipulate and benefit from the voters frustrations.

Again: I'm not trying for some kind of benefit. I'm not attempting to play politics. I'm saying what I believe to be true. This is not a game to me.

Saying people are frustrated with business as usual in Washington is pablum. It is meaningless. What is it that they're frustrated with, exactly? This is like the people complaining about spending, who can never actually say what it is they'd like to see cut.

39 researchok  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:37:34am

re: #32 Obdicut

I'm sorry, but to say that it's absurd that there's mainstream bigotry while we don't have gay marriage is, also, absurd.

I realize you don't want, for whatever reason, to admit that bigotry is still a gigantic, and mainstream problem in the US.

So your claim is that GOP primary voters secretly hate the bigotry of the candidates they voted for, over other GOP candidates, but they just had to do it because...?

I'm not looking for a payoff. I have no idea what you're talking about.

I do think bigotry needs to be confronted. The current state we're in has come from a lack of confrontation and calling out of bigotry where it exists, where it is being exploited, and where it is being fostered.

The GOP, through its alliance with and catering to the Tea Party, is doing a gigantic amount of catering to and legitimizing of bigots. And many of the candidates that won GOP primaries were the more bigoted of the options.

You really need to account for that, and claiming that they won despite their bigotry would require you to support that claim with an argument of some sort.

FYI, I am pro gay marriage.

Further, I have never said that racism isn't an issue in the US. What I do believe is that we have come a long way and in fact, thankfully, racial issues no longer rip the fabric of our society. We have a ways to go but momentum is in our favor. I will not concede that most Americans are unrequited bigots.

I also contend that most Americans do not believe that bigotry is the defining issue of this election. I can understand why some would want to make that so, but in the end, telling American voters that unless they vote a certain way they are bigots just isn't smart politics.

40 researchok  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:39:17am

re: #35 Varek Raith

The entire Teaparty leadership is full of nutters.

That doesn't make Tea Party members less frustrated voters.

41 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:39:21am

re: #37 Varek Raith

SoCon, religious right, anti science nutters.
I will not respect those who support these views.

They're running a black lt. colonel in florida, a rocket scientist, a cardiologist, an opthamologist, and half a dozen war heroes. The only people I hear harping on social issues (besides Paladino, I'll give you that nut) are people on the left who are desperately trying to change the subject from the economy/jobs.

42 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:39:41am

NPR fired Juan Williams ...

43 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:40:00am

re: #42 _RememberTonyC

NPR fired Juan Williams ...

Fired or let go?

44 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:40:39am

re: #43 RogueOne

Fired...
[Link: content.usatoday.com...]

45 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:40:42am

re: #40 researchok

That doesn't make Tea Party members less frustrated voters.

It makes them fools for throwing aside logic for some vague platitudes about fixing government.

46 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:41:45am

re: #39 researchok

Further, I have never said that racism isn't an issue in the US. What I do believe is that we have come a long way and in fact, thankfully, racial issues no longer rip the fabric of our society.

They really do still rip the fabric of our society, though. That's why the GOP candidate for New York is an openly racist asshole. That's why anti-Muslim sentiment (and yes, I know Muslim isn't a race) is still so fervent. That's why ACORN was smeared, that's why the attack on Shirley Sherrod occurred, that's why GOP candidates are allowed to say that the CRA was a bad idea without getting shitcanned, that's why the textbooks being put out in Virginia are still rewriting the civil goddamn war. Racism still tears at us, and it'd be great if we could actually confront it and improve instead of patting ourselves on our backs and saying it was all better now.


I can understand why some would want to make that so, but in the end, telling American voters that unless they vote a certain way they are bigots just isn't smart politics.

Why do you continue to say shit like this? Have you not paid attention when I say, over and over again, that I'm not trying to play smart politics? I'm trying to express my honest opinions. I'm not going to stop doing that because it's not 'smart politics', because that line of thinking is what has led the GOP to embrace bigotry.

I do notice that as soon as I pointed out that bigotry is clearly mainstream, which you had denied, by talking bout gay marriage, you immediately changed the term from bigotry to racism. Can you explain why you did that?

47 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:42:50am

re: #41 RogueOne

Such a weird lie.

[Link: www.valuesvotersummit.org...]

48 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:42:56am

re: #44 RogueOne

Fired...
[Link: content.usatoday.com...]

Good for NPR.

Williams responded: "Look, Bill, I'm not a bigot. You know the kind of books I've written about the civil rights movement in this country. But when I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous.

Replace "Muslim" with "Black" or "White" or "Latino".
Yeah.

49 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:43:20am

re: #41 RogueOne

I think I just entered the Twilight Zone...

50 researchok  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:44:13am

re: #38 Obdicut

They also, as recent information about them has shown, represent bigoted Christian exceptionalists. Do you accept that?

[Link: depts.washington.edu...]

Again: I'm not trying for some kind of benefit. I'm not attempting to play politics. I'm saying what I believe to be true. This is not a game to me.

Saying people are frustrated with business as usual in Washington is pablum. It is meaningless. What is it that they're frustrated with, exactly? This is like the people complaining about spending, who can never actually say what it is they'd like to see cut.

A few days ago, you waved aside a CATO institute study showing the opposite.

We both know all about statistics.

I am no Tea Party supporter, but I will not paint the majority of their membership as racists. There are some who undoubtably are, there are other bigots who have attached themselves to the movement, but in the end, even the NAACP talks about 'elements' as undesirable, within the Tea party, not the movement as a whole.

51 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:46:36am

re: #47 Obdicut

Such a weird lie.

[Link: www.valuesvotersummit.org...]


Wow, you're right there are some people talking values.....If M. Bachman and J. DeMint are all you have to hang your hat on you're in trouble. This election has been about the economy, the last election was about the economy, no amount of screaming "they're going to install a theocratic state!" is going to change that.

52 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:48:11am

Alright, it's light enough to head to KY, don't want to go in the dark.....

Enjoy your day, and remember to breath and relax....the world is not going to end in 2 weeks, or 2 years, or 4 years....

53 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:48:13am

re: #51 RogueOne

Wow, you're right there are some people talking values...If M. Bachman and J. DeMint are all you have to hang your hat on you're in trouble. This election has been about the economy, the last election was about the economy, no amount of screaming "they're going to install a theocratic state!" is going to change that.

Which wasn't what he was doing.
The GOP is beholden to the Religious Right.
They pander to them EVERY ELECTION CYCLE with religious based bullshit.

54 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:48:48am

re: #50 researchok


A few days ago, you waved aside a CATO institute study showing the opposite.

We both know all about statistics.

Yes. For example, I know a study done by the University of Washington is a hell of a lot more credible than a study done by the CATO institute.

I am no Tea Party supporter, but I will not paint the majority of their membership as racists.

Racism isn't a binary scale. You're not either a racist or a non-racist. There is a lot more support for racist and bigoted positions among people who are in the Tea Party than those who are not.

Have you read the NAACP report? And are you still comfortable saying that racism doesn't tear at the fabric of our society?

55 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:49:27am

re: #51 RogueOne

Thanks for admitting you lied, Rogue.

As usual, it was a lie against Democrats, in support of Republicans.

But you're so independent!

56 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:49:41am

re: #52 RogueOne

Alright, it's light enough to head to KY, don't want to go in the dark...

Enjoy your day, and remember to breath and relax...the world is not going to end in 2 weeks, or 2 years, or 4 years...

Watch out for zombies.
:)

57 researchok  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:54:07am

re: #46 Obdicut

They really do still rip the fabric of our society, though. That's why the GOP candidate for New York is an openly racist asshole. That's why anti-Muslim sentiment (and yes, I know Muslim isn't a race) is still so fervent. That's why ACORN was smeared, that's why the attack on Shirley Sherrod occurred, that's why GOP candidates are allowed to say that the CRA was a bad idea without getting shitcanned, that's why the textbooks being put out in Virginia are still rewriting the civil goddamn war. Racism still tears at us, and it'd be great if we could actually confront it and improve instead of patting ourselves on our backs and saying it was all better now.

Why do you continue to say shit like this? Have you not paid attention when I say, over and over again, that I'm not trying to play smart politics? I'm trying to express my honest opinions. I'm not going to stop doing that because it's not 'smart politics', because that line of thinking is what has led the GOP to embrace bigotry.

I do notice that as soon as I pointed out that bigotry is clearly mainstream, which you had denied, by talking bout gay marriage, you immediately changed the term from bigotry to racism. Can you explain why you did that?

Our disagreements are clear. Like you, I express my honest opinions.

You brought up gay marriage- not me. You believe bigotry is a critical mainstream problem. I do not. I believe bigotry has morphed into a political weapon. Insofar as using the term racism, I believe this is the first time I can be accused of being to the left of you. I truly believe that bigotry is just a softer form of racism.

ACORN is not on my radar. I could care less about them and Breitbart is an exploiter, no more no less.

Anti Muslim bigotry is an issue but is no greater than other forms of bigotry. Anti Islamic sentiment is in the news, anti Muslim sentiment is more topical because of 9/11 but there other than some morons and lunatics who are trying to exploit the issue in the most public way they can, there is no great wave of anti Muslim bigotry sweeping the nation.

58 shutdown  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:54:27am

Do any of you ever sleep???

59 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:54:36am

Was it me or did I come off like a jerk?

Too early for arguing, I suppose.
:)

60 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:55:02am

re: #58 imp_62

Do any of you ever sleep???

Sleep is for the weak, mortal.

61 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:56:30am

re: #57 researchok

You brought up gay marriage- not me. You believe bigotry is a critical mainstream problem. I do not.

Right. So how can you believe that, when we don't allow gay marriage?

ACORN is not on my radar. I could care less about them and Breitbart is an exploiter, no more no less.

Do you understand that ACORN was shut down on a bill of attainder prompted by the work of a conservative smear merchant, with the support of a huge amount of the GOP and conservative media figures?

Anti Muslim bigotry is an issue but is no greater than other forms of bigotry.

What other religions are currently having protests against their right to build houses of worship and community centers?

62 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:57:26am

re: #58 imp_62

I only need like five hours a night. I'm one of those really annoyingly chipper morning people, too. Two minutes after I'm awake I'm humming to myself and thinking about how great a day it's going to be.

63 researchok  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 4:58:49am

re: #54 Obdicut

Yes. For example, I know a study done by the University of Washington is a hell of a lot more credible than a study done by the CATO institute.

Racism isn't a binary scale. You're not either a racist or a non-racist. There is a lot more support for racist and bigoted positions among people who are in the Tea Party than those who are not.

Have you read the NAACP report? And are you still comfortable saying that racism doesn't tear at the fabric of our society?

Why is the University of Washington more credible?

I said racism does not tear at the fabric of our society as it once did.

I did not read the NAACP report- just media reports. I do imagine if the report noted that the Tea Party was rife with racists and bigots, that would have been reported on.

64 researchok  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 5:02:38am

re: #61 Obdicut

Right. So how can you believe that, when we don't allow gay marriage?

Do you understand that ACORN was shut down on a bill of attainder prompted by the work of a conservative smear merchant, with the support of a huge amount of the GOP and conservative media figures?

What other religions are currently having protests against their right to build houses of worship and community centers?

The Gay marriage issue isn't one that threatens to tear the union apart.

The Dems control both the House and Senate and have since the middle of Bush's last term. The GOP can block nothing by themselves. If the House wanted ACORN to be resurrected, they would have done just that.

Just last year, there was in incident or two in Florida and as of late in CT where Jewish houses or worship were protested.

65 shutdown  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 5:03:24am

re: #62 Obdicut

I only need like five hours a night. I'm one of those really annoyingly chipper morning people, too. Two minutes after I'm awake I'm humming to myself and thinking about how great a day it's going to be.

I am generally the same way. My wife has always actively avoided me in the morning; I am always trying to chat and offer her coffee or a full English breakfast, when all she wants to do is escape. On the other hand, I periodically just crash and sleep for 10 hours.

66 researchok  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 5:04:11am

OK, I'm off to the salt mines...

Obdi, we can pick this up later.

67 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 5:04:31am

re: #63 researchok

Why is the University of Washington more credible?

Is this a serious question? Why is an academic center of research more credible than a partisan think-tank with a history of dubious research?


I said racism does not tear at the fabric of our society as it once did.

Let me remind you of what you actually said:

What I do believe is that we have come a long way and in fact, thankfully, racial issues no longer rip the fabric of our society.

You didn't say 'as they once did'. You just said they didn't.

I did not read the NAACP report- just media reports. I do imagine if the report noted that the Tea Party was rife with racists and bigots, that would have been reported on.

You should read the report.

68 Summer Seale  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 5:05:41am

re: #58 imp_62

Do any of you ever sleep???

It's 2:02 pm for me. I'm at work. =P

..... ziiiip .....

Hi everyone! Christine here...

I just wanted to say like total shocker and all that! You know? Like how did that name get on my endorsements page!?? OMG, I know that I said Pam is a friend and all that, but you know what I meant, right? I mean, you know, a friend friend, right? Like totally! You can't blow that word out of proportion!

So yea, I totally heard you all and it was just one big mistake. I'm sorry, like I said I liked her, but I didn't say that I liked her, you know?? And then she showed up to my party anyway! And somebody opened the door for her while I wasn't looking and was talking about Jesus in the bedroom!

Like, OMG!!!!

I'm sooooo sorry, everyone. But anyway she's totally like kicked out and stuff and we can keep Tea Partying on, ok? Rob says there's more beer in the kitchen so help yourselves - all the cool people who can stay!

Love,

Christine "Waswitched" O'Donnell

69 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 5:06:26am

re: #64 researchok

The Gay marriage issue isn't one that threatens to tear the union apart.

Where did the phrase 'threatened to tear the Union apart' come from? Because that is not what we were talking about. You have now moved the goalposts about a billion miles. That's really crappy of you.

The Dems control both the House and Senate and have since the middle of Bush's last term. The GOP can block nothing by themselves. If the House wanted ACORN to be resurrected, they would have done just that.

Good thing I don't just blame the GOP, then, isn't it?

Just last year, there was in incident or two in Florida and as of late in CT where Jewish houses or worship were protested.

Yep. Muslim and Jewish. Exactly. There are no protests against Christian houses of worship. Christian exceptionalism.

70 Summer Seale  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 5:06:50am

re: #68 Summer

It's 2:02 pm for me. I'm at work. =P

... ziiip ...

Hi everyone! Christine here...

I just wanted to say like total shocker and all that! You know? Like how did that name get on my endorsements page!?? OMG, I know that I said Pam is a friend and all that, but you know what I meant, right? I mean, you know, a friend friend, right? Like totally! You can't blow that word out of proportion!

So yea, I totally heard you all and it was just one big mistake. I'm sorry, like I said I liked her, but I didn't say that I liked her, you know?? And then she showed up to my party anyway! And somebody opened the door for her while I wasn't looking and was talking about Jesus in the bedroom!

Like, OMG!!!

I'm sooo sorry, everyone. But anyway she's totally like kicked out and stuff and we can keep Tea Partying on, ok? Rob says there's more beer in the kitchen so help yourselves - all the cool people who can stay!

Love,

Christine "Waswitched" O'Donnell

Oops! Make that Christine "Beenwitched" O'Donnell

71 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 5:07:10am

re: #62 Obdicut

I only need like five hours a night. I'm one of those really annoyingly chipper morning people, too. Two minutes after I'm awake I'm humming to myself and thinking about how great a day it's going to be.

Oh god, you're one of those types.
:/
/

72 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 5:09:40am

re: #64 researchok

Oh, and:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

But totally, racism no longer tears the fabric of our society. Immigration bills favoring one race over another; totally not a problem.

73 JRCMYP  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 5:38:30am

Maybe Sabrina likes Campbell's Soup or something?

74 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 5:50:37am

Seeing what happened to Juan Williams should give all of us pause. His statement was misguided on a couple of levels, but did not "feel" malicious. His basic premise that seeing Muslims wearing a certain kind of clothing made him nervous shows a lack of understanding of the criminal mind. The people who carried out 9/11 blended into our society easily. They hid in plain view. People who wear ethnic clothing in the USA tend to stand out and thus call more attention to themselves. They are the LAST people I'd expect to be carrying out violent acts.

75 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 5:52:59am

re: #74 _RememberTonyC

A good point; but you might want to repost in the next thread.

76 researchok  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 6:26:04am

re: #72 Obdicut

Oh, and:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

But totally, racism no longer tears the fabric of our society. Immigration bills favoring one race over another; totally not a problem.

Sorry Obdi, but racism is not what it was. We have come a long way, and will continue to move forward.

77 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 6:27:27am

re: #76 researchok

Sorry Obdi, but racism is not what it was. We have come a long way, and will continue to move forward.

That'd be a great reply to me if I ever had said we hadn't come a long way.

If you're not going to bother dealing with my actual opinions, why bother talking to me?

78 theheat  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 8:41:49am

Perky Princess didn't want Hater Princess's taint all over her, so they are no longer sharing makeup tips. Another transparent and counterfeit move to make idiots believe Perky Princess isn't a hater.

No, this just leaves Perky Princess still looking like the complete moron she is, minus the hater baggage she just threw to the wolves. Self-preservation; she's all about that. If there's one thing these GOP faux feminists are about, it's self-preservation at any cost. Everyone else, of course, is a godless sonofabitch, and they are desperate to exact their wrath upon them. But first, they must get elected. Hence, Pamela is no longer invited for sleepovers.

79 Mickey Blumental  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 8:51:28am

She did not just use the Jewish card...

Oh no she dinet!

80 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 11:44:23am

O'Donnell is a sacrificial lamb set on the altar to direct attention away from the other fruitcakes who now have a chance of winning.

81 ErikJ76  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 1:08:48pm

"And the shrieking harpy is raging like a lunatic, and withdrawing her endorsement of O’Donnell."

And after the election the harpy will post a number of incoherent posts saying that O'Donnell lost because the harpy withdrew her endorsement...

82 kellygrrrl  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 2:21:17pm

wait. are you telling me Christine O'Donnell is still strategizing like she is actually in this race?
I thought this was just an audition for Fox News ... or Saturday Night Live.

the woman cannot name a Supreme Court case other than Roe v Wade and she can't name a Dem Senator other than Hilary Clinton?

oye!

I think Bill Maher should just offer COD a job -- he could even take her on the road for his comedy tour

83 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 3:31:43pm

re: #10 researchok

I can't imagine Geller didn't know this was coming.

It feeds the fire of her sense of being wronged, wronged, wronged.

84 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 21, 2010 3:32:07pm

re: #13 researchok

As far as I concerned, the story is more about Geller. She is becoming more and more toxic.

Even a whackjob like O'Donnell understands that Geller is a liability.

You can't repackage bigots into something palatable, no matter how hard you try. Not even an American flag changes that truth.

Damn skippy.


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