Lettin’ It All Hang Out

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Tonight at redstate.com: And Even STILL I Am Not Allowed To Make A Racial Slur About Our President? After THIS? AYFKM!?!?!?

In the new post-racial America, brought to us by Barack “don’t call me black or white, just call me American” Obama, we have been told our differences are behind us now…just because he exists and… just because he is black. Yet, day by day and speech by speech, this President has done more damage to race relations than any combination of Presidents since Lyndon Johnson…and he, at least, tried to make things better with a sincere heart.

Were anyone else to have been caught on tape making these sorts of remarks, they’d have already been fired and given a 2 million dollar job contract with the competition. Oh wait.

The lack of outrage should surprise no one here. We were told to vote for him… not because he was black but… because he brought with him hope and change and the promise of a color blind society. He has delivered on none of these, instead making race relations worse today than they were before he was elected. Since being sworn in we’ve been routinely told that any disagreements with his agenda HAD to be because he was… wait for it…

Black.

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541 comments
1 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:20:18pm

all hang out... what ever happen to Van Morrison?

2 b_snark  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:22:18pm

It isn't Obama wedging the races apart, it's the stupid ones.

3 SpaceJesus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:22:46pm

I fail to see how making conservatives show their true racist colors is the same thing as damaging race relations over all

4 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:24:01pm

Is that supposed to suggest that Lyndon Johnson is the big standard by which race-relations-damaging presidents are judged?

And, what?

5 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:25:08pm

re: #2 b_sharp

It isn't Obama wedging the races apart, it's the stupid ones.

Maybe it's just me--I don't see race relations getting notably worse. I see a lot more public racism from political activists, but my sense is that people on the street are treating each other about as well or poorly as they did before. Thoughts?

6 darthstar  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:25:53pm

Make all the racial slurs you want, RedState...CNN is paying you for it...for now.

7 jaunte  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:25:55pm

Dave Poff is so focused on the racial angle he forgot to look at the front end of the sentence:

“we can’t have special interests sitting shotgun"
8 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:27:09pm
In the new post-racial America, brought to us by Barack “don’t call me black or white, just call me American” Obama, we have been told our differences are behind us now…just because he exists and… just because he is black. Yet, day by day and speech by speech, this President has done more damage to race relations than any combination of Presidents since Lyndon Johnson…

...

We were told to vote for him… not because he was black but… because he brought with him hope and change and the promise of a color blind society. He has delivered on none of these, instead making race relations worse today than they were before he was elected.

I keep hearing pundits repeat this shit, over and over, but I don't recall anyone ever telling me that crap. Must travel in different circles, I guess. Yet some folk keep repeating it and repeating it.

It's Heaven & Hell

9 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:28:25pm

re: #5 SanFranciscoZionist

Thoughts?

Ditto?
/ducks and runs

10 Digital Display  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:30:17pm

Good evening Lizards!

11 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:30:28pm

I liked the idea of having a black president, for obvious reasons, but I wouldn't have voted for him just for that, and I supported Hillary with no sense that I was missing out on a chance for racial unity, until she went down. And I considered McCain until Palin turned out to be horrible. I just don't recall being told that if we elected Obama, we were going to go all post-racial overnight, and all the racial issues would go away. If I was told that, I laughed and forgot about it immediately.

12 JEA62  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:31:38pm

Loved the Driving Miss Daisy reference in the comments. I guess the person means that all Republicans are white...

13 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:32:12pm

re: #5 SanFranciscoZionist

Nothing I see today compares in my day to day to the real '60's era riots, and the Rodney King riots. (Yeah, I was there) That was racial tension. This? A Media Circle Jerk, with Tea Party accomplices clowns.

14 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:32:26pm

re: #10 HoosierHoops

Good evening Lizards!

Hi, hoops. We're supposed to get quite a windstorm here in Chicagoland tonight. So if I suddenly disappear from LGF tonight, that's the reason.

15 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:32:34pm

re: #12 JEA62

Loved the Driving Miss Daisy reference in the comments. I guess the person means that all Republicans are white...

Aren't they? Aside from Condi, you know.

16 darthstar  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:32:45pm

RedState = Racist Fucks

maybe the point is...
speciallist Monday, October 25th at 9:04PM EDT (link)

folks are not even allowed to say ‘Banana’ when having a conversation about Obama….it’s ridiculous

especially since he drops blatantly racist comments almost every day


banana
Doc Holliday Monday, October 25th at 9:07PM EDT (link)

I like bananas, I don’t like Obama.


Molon Labe!

here's a picture of Obama carrying bananas..
speciallist Monday, October 25th at 9:18PM EDT (link)

gotcha ;)


17 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:32:54pm

re: #11 SanFranciscoZionist

If a cow in India dies of hoof & mouth disease, it's that fucker Obama's fault. That's just how these hyper-partisan hacks roll.

18 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:34:36pm

re: #11 SanFranciscoZionist

I liked the idea of having a black president, for obvious reasons, but I wouldn't have voted for him just for that, and I supported Hillary with no sense that I was missing out on a chance for racial unity, until she went down. And I considered McCain until Palin turned out to be horrible. I just don't recall being told that if we elected Obama, we were going to go all post-racial overnight, and all the racial issues would go away. If I was told that, I laughed and forgot about it immediately.

The ideas as I saw it was the fact Obama won indicated we are closer to post racial than ever. I believe that. Even if largely offset with the backlash amplified by a harsh recession.

19 b_snark  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:35:15pm

re: #5 SanFranciscoZionist

Maybe it's just me--I don't see race relations getting notably worse. I see a lot more public racism from political activists, but my sense is that people on the street are treating each other about as well or poorly as they did before. Thoughts?

Bigotry has always been there, somewhat under the radar, but cultural suppression has given us time to educate our kids to the irrationality of it all. We may not see an increase in racism in our daily lives for a while, but the implicit acceptance of overt racism from authority figures will have an effect on our grandkids. Real social reform always lags the effort to enable it, whether we view the change as positive or negative. I think the changes will become visible within a few years if the Glenn Becks, Gellers, and Limbaughs continue to line their pocket at the expense of civil equality.

20 blueraven  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:35:57pm

re: #8 Slumbering Behemoth

...

I keep hearing pundits repeat this shit, over and over, but I don't recall anyone ever telling me that crap. Must travel in different circles, I guess. Yet some folk keep repeating it and repeating it.

It's Heaven & Hell

I was thinking the same thing. The radicals have dubbed Obama as the Messiah, the first post racial president, and claimed he was billed as such by the campaign or supporters.

Not true of course, it was his detractors who attributed to him these impossible-to-live-up-to labels. It was done by design, so they could knock him down a peg or two as needed.

21 b_snark  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:36:58pm

re: #13 Rightwingconspirator

Nothing I see today compares in my day to day to the real '60's era riots, and the Rodney King riots. (Yeah, I was there) That was racial tension. This? A Media Circle Jerk, with Tea Party accomplices clowns.

This may be a case of two steps forward, one step back.

22 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:37:31pm

re: #20 blueraven

And it goes on, and on, and on...

23 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:37:54pm

re: #14 Dark_Falcon
Hi DF!
Here in Los Angeles too. Wind blew over two trees that wreck two houses. We had some potted trees go over here. 40 mph gusts.

24 samuraishake  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:38:17pm

It's another case of the straw man. RedState is basically saying "here's what we wish Obama had said, and here's why that hypothetical is wrong."

I've yet to see RedState pull out anything other than grandiose summaries of shit that's never happened.

25 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:39:07pm

re: #18 Rightwingconspirator

The ideas as I saw it was the fact Obama won indicated we are closer to post racial than ever. I believe that. Even if largely offset with the backlash amplified by a harsh recession.

Sure, the fact that we actually did it seemed to indicate something big. And it still feels good. I like it that two little girls descended from American slaves are sleeping in canopy beds in the White House, and their mother is the hostess at state dinners. All politics aside, that rocks hard.

26 Renaissance_Man  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:40:13pm

re: #18 Rightwingconspirator

The ideas as I saw it was the fact Obama won indicated we are closer to post racial than ever. I believe that. Even if largely offset with the backlash amplified by a harsh recession.

I've said it before, but it shows how amazing this country really is. Less than a decade after one of the most significant events in collective memory, perpetrated by brown people with funny names, America turns around and elects as President... a brown person with a funny name. Only in the West, and probably only in the US and similarly English-speaking West, will you find a collective nation that is sufficiently post-racial to do that.

27 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:40:39pm

re: #17 Slumbering Behemoth

If a cow in India dies of hoof & mouth disease, it's that fucker Obama's fault. That's just how these hyper-partisan hacks roll.

Well, they've got hoof in mouth disease.

28 samuraishake  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:40:58pm

re: #23 Rightwingconspirator

Here in Wichita tonight too. 40mph straightline winds at times.

29 Winny Spencer  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:41:20pm

re: #25 SanFranciscoZionist

But that's somehow a horrible and contemptible feeling to have, according to the baggers.

I agree that it rocks, all politics aside.

30 KronoGhazi  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:41:41pm

I really don't get what that guy is so worked up about.

31 webevintage  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:41:52pm

re: #16 darthstar

RedState = Racist Fucks

maybe the point is...
speciallist Monday, October 25th at 9:04PM EDT (link)

folks are not even allowed to say ‘Banana’ when having a conversation about Obama….it’s ridiculous

Idiots.
Not racists: "Yesterday, on the way to the store to buy some bananas, I had to listen to Obama on the car radio."
Racist: "Know how a Monkey and Obama are the same? The both like Bananas".

Why is this so hard to understand?

32 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:42:15pm

"this President has done more damage to race relations than any combination of Presidents since Lyndon Johnson…and he, at least, tried to make things better with a sincere heart."

Wait a moment... what did LBJ do to race relations.....

Wait... no... seriously, he's not talking about what I think he's talking about... is he?

33 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:42:38pm

This shit is ridiculous. You know what most of this crap like the RedState example sounds like to me?

"I was promised that if Obama got elected, I'd stop being a racist."

There, I said it.

34 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:42:51pm

re: #28 samuraishake

Here in Wichita tonight too. 40mph straightline winds at times.

The winds are projected at up to 55 MPH here.

35 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:43:29pm

Where do they find these "people"?

36 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:43:35pm

re: #23 Rightwingconspirator

60 plus predicted for the foothills.
TAKE COVER!
*waves*

37 samuraishake  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:43:38pm

re: #34 Dark_Falcon

The winds are projected at up to 55 MPH here.


Snap! Your kite will fly higher than mine!

38 Linden Arden  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:44:23pm

I live in Red State Georgia and I hear these whackos all the time. They are the paranoid new idiocracy.

Yet I still have my guns, the Fairness Doctrine has not silenced the rednecks on the AM dial, my 401K is still there, and I am free to read my Bible should I ever wish to.

If I weren't already going to vote for Obama in 2012 I would do so out of spite for these assholes.

39 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:44:59pm

re: #32 jamesfirecat

"this President has done more damage to race relations than any combination of Presidents since Lyndon Johnson…and he, at least, tried to make things better with a sincere heart."

Wait a moment... what did LBJ do to race relations...

Wait... no... seriously, he's not talking about what I think he's talking about... is he?

He's likely referring to the Great Society programs, not Civil Rights legislation. But still, to say that about LBJ is so far off base its Beck-worthy.

40 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:45:08pm

re: #18 Rightwingconspirator

The ideas as I saw it was the fact Obama won indicated we are closer to post racial than ever. I believe that. Even if largely offset with the backlash amplified by a harsh recession.

Racists don't intend to die out with a whimper but with a grand WAAAAHHH THINGS ARE THE WAY THEY USED TO BE AND I DON'T LIKE IT ANY MORE! I'M GONNA GO FOUND MY OWN COUNTRY!

41 jaunte  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:45:54pm

re: #40 jamesfirecat

They even have a song:
"Old times there are not forgotten."

42 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:45:57pm

re: #35 Gus 802

Where do they find these "people"?

Wallmart & Costco & Kmart.
Look for the "clearance" aisle!
LOL!
Reduced for quick sale!
You do know what POS means to a retailer. right?

43 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:46:16pm

Why is it that so many Dio era Sabbath tunes remind me of Tea Party nonsense?

44 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:46:36pm

re: #39 Dark_Falcon

He's likely referring to the Great Society programs, not Civil Rights legislation. But still, to say that about LBJ is so far off base its Beck-worthy.

///Oh come on, you don't think LBJ did horrible things to race relations by forcing integration and denying businesses the right to be racist rather than waiting for the free market to do it on its own?

45 theheat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:46:39pm
this President has done more damage to race relations than any combination of Presidents since Lyndon Johnson

How?

He has delivered on none of these, instead making race relations worse today than they were before he was elected.

Again, how?

Is it because he sets whitey over the edge he's a bastard, or the whities that done gone over the edge are bastards? Another chicken and egg scenario.

46 darthstar  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:46:55pm

re: #31 webevintage

Idiots.
Not racists: "Yesterday, on the way to the store to buy some bananas, I had to listen to Obama on the car radio."
Racist: "Know how a Monkey and Obama are the same? The both like Bananas".

Why is this so hard to understand?

When they say "I can't say banana" what they're really saying is "I can't say banana because someone will think I'm calling President Obama a monkey." (i.e. he's a monkey, only I can't say it!)...fuckers.

47 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:47:07pm

re: #41 jaunte

They even have a song:
"Old times there are not forgotten."

Whopping slaves and sellin' cotton...
And waitin for the Robert E Le....
(It was never there on time....)

48 b_snark  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:47:55pm

re: #42 Floral Giraffe

Wallmart & Costco & Kmart.
Look for the "clearance" aisle!
LOL!
Reduced for quick sale!
You do know what POS means to a retailer. right?

To the manager it means point of sale, to a salesperson working returns two days after Christmas, it means piece of shit.

49 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:48:16pm

re: #26 Renaissance_Man

re: #25 SanFranciscoZionist

It's a simple comparison, and I'd love to say this on air with some pundit proclaiming historic tensions. Something like this.
"Circa 1960, race riots, Martin Luther King dead. Circa 1990's we have riots in the streets over cops getting off over beating a black man. Circa NOW- A fine black family rightly resides in the White House. At large and in charge. And you want to claim we are not progressing? "

Why? Cause rand Paul says so? Gimme a break.

50 Winny Spencer  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:48:25pm

re: #40 jamesfirecat

"I'm going to emigrate to a country that does not have any immigrants".

51 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:49:11pm

re: #38 Linden Arden

If I weren't already going to vote for Obama in 2012 I would do so out of spite for these assholes.

I guarantee you, as a registered republican, if the GOP decides to keep going full Teahadi by then, so will I.

52 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:49:36pm

re: #50 Winny Spencer

"I'm going to emigrate to a country that does not have any immigrants".

North Korea?

53 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:52:08pm

re: #36 Floral Giraffe

60 plus predicted for the foothills.
TAKE COVER!
*waves*

Hiya! *waves (sways in wind) back*

54 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:52:27pm

re: #51 Slumbering Behemoth

I guarantee you, as a registered republican, if the GOP decides to keep going full Teahadi by then, so will I.

Thank you, at this point the sane Republicans are only going to have a chance to make their voices heard by NOT speaking up (and more importantly NOT VOTING) in support of these idiots.

55 mikhailtheplumber  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:52:28pm

re: #12 JEA62

Loved the Driving Miss Daisy reference in the comments. I guess the person means that all Republicans are white...

Well, not all Republicans, of course. Just over 90% of them, including the token African American they have as the RNC Chairman.

56 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:52:59pm

re: #49 Rightwingconspirator

re: #25 SanFranciscoZionist

It's a simple comparison, and I'd love to say this on air with some pundit proclaiming historic tensions. Something like this.
"Circa 1960, race riots, Martin Luther King dead. Circa 1990's we have riots in the streets over cops getting off over beating a black man. Circa NOW- A fine black family rightly resides in the White House. At large and in charge. And you want to claim we are not progressing? "

Why? Cause rand Paul says so? Gimme a break.

To which I think these sorts of folks would respond..."THINGS ARE GETTING WORSE!"

57 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:53:27pm

Ah yes. Dave Poff over at some wingnut "Liberty" website:

NAACP Forms Its Own Lynch Mob | Liberty.com

Using the phrase "lynch mob" within the context of the NAACP. That outta tell you something.

58 samuraishake  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:53:36pm

Here's my take on RedState. I'm not a Miami Dolphins fan. If someone comes up to me and says the Dolphins suck, I'm not going to go into a fit of rage.

If Ericson didn't want to say racist things, the wouldn't go into a rage when people told him not to.

And for the record, I'm not sure who's been telling him that you can't say "banana." It's another one of those things where he wants to be persecuted, so he makes shit up to justify his feelings.

59 darthstar  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:55:08pm

re: #57 Gus 802

Ah yes. Dave Poff over at some wingnut "Liberty" website:

NAACP Forms Its Own Lynch Mob | Liberty.com

Using the phrase "lynch mob" within the context of the NAACP. That outta tell you something.

Is he trying to get a date with Robert Stacy McCain?

60 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:55:33pm

re: #54 jamesfirecat

I'm not the kind of republican that says "I'm gonna teach the GOP a lesson and stay home on election day". No, fuck that. I'm the kind of republican who says "I'm gonna vote for the best possible choice I see, and if that happens to be a democrat, so be it".

61 jaunte  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:57:30pm

re: #57 Gus 802

Poff describes Christine O'Donnell as "the real deal" so that will help tell you a little more about his judgment.

62 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:57:38pm

re: #60 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm not the kind of republican that says "I'm gonna teach the GOP a lesson and stay home on election day". No, fuck that. I'm the kind of republican who says "I'm gonna vote for the best possible choice I see, and if that happens to be a democrat, so be it".

And once again I thank you for that.

Things are likely only to get crazier and crazier until the 20% or so of moderate Republicans who are still out there abandon the party thus making it stastically impossible for them to win presidential elections.

63 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:57:40pm

re: #57 Gus 802

Ah yes. Dave Poff over at some wingnut "Liberty" website:

NAACP Forms Its Own Lynch Mob | Liberty.com

Using the phrase "lynch mob" within the context of the NAACP. That outta tell you something.

They're starting up a rock band with George Lynch?

64 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:57:56pm

re: #60 Slumbering Behemoth

Good for you. I think many Lizards, are of the same mind set!
Let the best candidate win!

65 funky chicken  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:58:34pm

re: #16 darthstar

People can't talk about Obama and bananas in the same conversation? Huh? What if he likes bananas, or banana cream pie, or banana splits, or banana bread? Do you think the White House chefs know this rule?

/

nut topping, anyone?

66 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:58:51pm

re: #60 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm not the kind of republican that says "I'm gonna teach the GOP a lesson and stay home on election day". No, fuck that. I'm the kind of republican who says "I'm gonna vote for the best possible choice I see, and if that happens to be a democrat, so be it".

Yeah, I hear you... I am the kind of Democrat that is steppin over the line next week.

67 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:59:06pm

re: #42 Floral Giraffe

Wallmart & Costco & Kmart.
Look for the "clearance" aisle!
LOL!
Reduced for quick sale!
You do know what POS means to a retailer. right?

Point Of Sale. [waves]

68 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:59:11pm

The war on Christmas starts earlier every year.....
EDL THREATEN TO "CLOSE YOUR TOWNS" OVER XMAS BANS


A FAR-RIGHT group has vowed to “close down” any town that ditches British traditions and shows favouritism to Muslims.

The English Defence League said it has written to every council in the country threatening a mass invasion if they ban the word “Christmas”.

It includes using the term “winter festival” in case Christmas upsets Muslims.

EDL leader Stephen Lennon said “working class people” in the UK were “at boiling point” over what he says is the “Islamisation of Britain.”

69 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:59:50pm

re: #56 SanFranciscoZionist

Great point.
It's time we started speaking more in support of what progress we have made instead of guilty hand wringing over the shortcomings. I mean that out in general, we do pretty well here at LGF.

It just plays to the haters too well to ignore the benefits of the progress we have.

70 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:00:02pm

re: #49 Rightwingconspirator

I think about what this very talented man, was put through.
We have in some ways, come very far, and in others, well, we haven't.

Youtube Video
71 bratwurst  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:00:13pm

re: #66 brookly red

Yeah, I hear you... I am the kind of Democrat that is steppin over the line next week.

So you are voting for Paladino then?

72 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:00:26pm

re: #68 Killgore Trout

The war on Christmas starts earlier every year...
EDL THREATEN TO "CLOSE YOUR TOWNS" OVER XMAS BANS

I wonder how Pam would feel if she was forced to celebrate Christmas instead of Hanuka.

73 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:00:51pm

re: #66 brookly red

Yeah, I hear you... I am the kind of Democrat that is steppin over the line next week.

Umm... you're the kind of "Democrat" who registered D because you realized that you could get the most effect out of your vote by casting it in the democratic primary because you knew that a Republican is unlikely to win an election in your state.

You're as much of a Democrat as I would be a republican if I decided to try and mitigate the crazy by voting for a Sane Republican if I moved to texas and changed which party I was signed up for....

74 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:01:24pm

re: #62 jamesfirecat

And once again I thank you for that.

Things are likely only to get crazier and crazier until the 20% or so of moderate Republicans who are still out there abandon the party thus making it stastically impossible for them to win presidential elections.

I think you may be in for a surprise...

75 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:01:28pm

re: #62 jamesfirecat

And once again I thank you for that.

I'm not some hyper-partisan hack, regardless of what those spineless, commie, librul-weenies say about me.
/

Things are likely only to get crazier and crazier until the 20% or so of moderate Republicans who are still out there abandon the party thus making it stastically impossible for them to win presidential elections.

Point of face, the GOP is abandoning people like me, not the other way around.

76 jaunte  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:01:43pm

Matt Taibbi:

Of course, the fact that we're even sitting here two years after Bush talking about a GOP comeback is a profound testament to two things: One, the American voter's unmatched ability to forget what happened to him 10 seconds ago, and two, the Republican Party's incredible recuperative skill and bureaucratic ingenuity. This is a party that in 2008 was not just beaten but obliterated, with nearly every one of its recognizable leaders reduced to historical-footnote status and pinned with blame for some ghastly political catastrophe. There were literally no healthy bodies left on the bench, but the Republicans managed to get back in the game anyway by plucking an assortment of nativist freaks, village idiots and Internet Hitlers out of thin air and training them into a giant ball of incoherent resentment just in time for the 2010 midterms.
[Link: www.rollingstone.com...]
77 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:02:15pm

re: #60 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm not the kind of republican that says "I'm gonna teach the GOP a lesson and stay home on election day". No, fuck that. I'm the kind of republican who says "I'm gonna vote for the best possible choice I see, and if that happens to be a democrat, so be it".

To be honest, I'm the kind of Republican who says "Unless my party runs a raving lunatic, I'm probably going to support the GOP. Even if the Dem were better."

78 darthstar  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:02:26pm

re: #65 funky chicken

People can't talk about Obama and bananas in the same conversation? Huh? What if he likes bananas, or banana cream pie, or banana splits, or banana bread? Do you think the White House chefs know this rule?

/

nut topping, anyone?

It's called context. If the president wants banana cream pie, he gets it. If someone posts on a blog that they can't say "banana" when talking about the president, it's a racist dog-whistle. Sarc tags don't change that.

79 b_snark  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:02:29pm

re: #73 jamesfirecat

Umm... you're the kind of "Democrat" who registered D because you realized that you could get the most effect out of your vote by casting it in the democratic primary because you knew that a Republican is unlikely to win an election in your state.

You're as much of a Democrat as I would be a republican if I decided to try and mitigate the crazy by voting for a Sane Republican if I moved to texas and changed which party I was signed up for...

You just made me dizzy.

80 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:02:35pm

re: #67 Dark_Falcon

LOL.
No, I was a buyer, pricing decision maker, it's the other one.
WHAT will it take to make it go away?
How deep do we have to go!
*waves back*
*with a smooch*
oh my!

81 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:02:48pm

re: #74 brookly red

I think you may be in for a surprise...

So you're saying the fact that the GOP manages to win the Novemeber midterms won't lead them rush head longs towards Crazville come 2012 and get slammed in the Presidential race?

82 b_snark  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:03:39pm

re: #75 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm not some hyper-partisan hack, regardless of what those spineless, commie, librul-weenies say about me.
/

Point of face, the GOP is abandoning people like me, not the other way around.

They're pulling the rum out from under your feet. So to speak.

83 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:03:50pm

re: #71 bratwurst

So you are voting for Paladino then?

Addendum to my #77: I consider Paladino to be a raving lunatic. I would not vote for him.

84 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:04:04pm

re: #73 jamesfirecat

Umm... you're the kind of "Democrat" who registered D because you realized that you could get the most effect out of your vote by casting it in the democratic primary because you knew that a Republican is unlikely to win an election in your state.

You're as much of a Democrat as I would be a republican if I decided to try and mitigate the crazy by voting for a Sane Republican if I moved to texas and changed which party I was signed up for...

no I registered D in 1976 when I turned 18... I was OK for a while, today I am not feeling it. Sorry if I don't fit your mold.

85 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:04:25pm

re: #66 brookly red

Yeah, I hear you... I am the kind of Democrat that is steppin over the line next week.

Do what you feel is right, it's your vote after all. And I'm not gonna sling shit, and childish insults at you for it.

Besides, these are local elections. A republican or democrat in your neck of the woods likely won't look or sound anything like a republican or democrat in my neck of the woods.

86 BishopX  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:04:33pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

Thank you for your honesty. I'm the same way for the Dems.

87 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:05:03pm

re: #71 bratwurst

So you are voting for Paladino then?

we have been down this road before...

88 Max  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:05:20pm

Fauxtography at the Jerusalem Post?

89 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:05:29pm

re: #68 Killgore Trout

The war on Christmas starts earlier every year...
EDL THREATEN TO "CLOSE YOUR TOWNS" OVER XMAS BANS

"Clear the streets for the Brown Battalions..."

That line from the "Horst Wessel Lied" is my standing quote where the EDL is concerned.

90 b_snark  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:05:44pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

To be honest, I'm the kind of Republican who says "Unless my party runs a raving lunatic, I'm probably going to support the GOP. Even if the Dem were better."

The cognitive dissonance doesn't bother you?

Hey D_F, how'd work go?

91 Digital Display  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:06:23pm

re: #64 Floral Giraffe

Good for you. I think many Lizards, are of the same mind set!
Let the best candidate win!

I'm not voting next Tuesday.. I have only lived in Oklahoma for 30 days..
I'm still not sure who the biggest idiots are running here yet...The ads are viscous though..

92 engineer cat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:06:51pm

i'd love to vote a progressive ticket, but teddy roosevelt is dead and the bull moose party isn't around anymore...

93 darthstar  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:06:59pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

To be honest, I'm the kind of Republican who says "Unless my party runs a raving lunatic, I'm probably going to support the GOP. Even if the Dem were better."

You do realize that your party is running a slate of raving lunatics this year, right? But hey, party loyalty trumps country...more power to you.

94 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:07:19pm

re: #84 brookly red

no I registered D in 1976 when I turned 18... I was OK for a while, today I am not feeling it. Sorry if I don't fit your mold.


Umm... the reason I listed that you gave for registering Dem is one you've mentioned on LGF before.

So were you lying then or lying now?

95 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:07:23pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

Sorry bro, that's not how I roll. Not hatin', just sayin'.

96 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:09:06pm

Thanks, Charles. I now have The Commodores dancing around in my head insisting that the lady's stacked, and that's a fact, ain't holdin nothin back.

Youtube Video
97 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:09:12pm

re: #65 funky chicken

People can't talk about Obama and bananas in the same conversation? Huh? What if he likes bananas, or banana cream pie, or banana splits, or banana bread? Do you think the White House chefs know this rule?

/

nut topping, anyone?

It goes like this.

"Ha, ha, this president should be sellin' bananas in da islands, not sittin' in da White House!"

"God DAMN, that's racist!"

"Ohhhh, I guess I can't say 'banana' without being a racist, huh? HUH?"

98 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:09:41pm

re: #90 b_sharp

The cognitive dissonance doesn't bother you?

Hey D_F, how'd work go?

Work was OK. That sale I was chasing is still playing hard-to-get, but I found some other prospects that may be even better. And another thing I was worried about got solved with greater ease than I had thought it might take. Overall, today was a decent day.

99 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:09:45pm

re: #73 jamesfirecat

That's a bit unfair, dude. You can't really know what a person is thinking unless they say it. You can make assumptions, but those almost never reflect reality.

100 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:09:52pm

re: #68 Killgore Trout

The war on Christmas starts earlier every year...
EDL THREATEN TO "CLOSE YOUR TOWNS" OVER XMAS BANS

Wow.

101 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:10:42pm

re: #93 darthstar

You do realize that your party is running a slate of raving lunatics this year, right? But hey, party loyalty trumps country...more power to you.

In my district, they are not. Mark Kirk and Joel Pollack are not loons, not at all. And they will improve the GOP's Congressional delegation by being in it.

102 b_snark  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:10:53pm

re: #98 Dark_Falcon

Work was OK. That sale I was chasing is still playing hard-to-get, but I found some other prospects that may be even better. And another thing I was worried about got solved with greater ease than I had thought it might take. Overall, today was a decent day.

That's good to hear.

103 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:10:53pm

re: #72 Killgore Trout

I wonder how Pam would feel if she was forced to celebrate Christmas instead of Hanuka.

I think Pam has basically moved to a place where she would accept that, in the name of Western, ie Christian, solidarity against the Islamic horde.

She's certainly thrown kosher slaughter under the bus.

104 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:11:33pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

To be honest, I'm the kind of Republican who says "Unless my party runs a raving lunatic, I'm probably going to support the GOP. Even if the Dem were better."

We know.

(I also get it, being that kind of Democrat, to be perfectly honest.)

105 lostlakehiker  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:11:35pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

"Clear the streets for the Brown Battalions..."

That line from the "Horst Wessel Lied" is my standing quote where the EDL is concerned.

And here's the modern German take on all that, straight from the stall, the straight poop:

Hier sitze ich wie Hitler\
Die braunen Massen unter mir.


That man's reputation is shitcanned for good in Germany, it would seem.

/just couldn't resist.

106 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:12:16pm

re: #88 Max D. Reinhardt

Fauxtography at the Jerusalem Post?

Hmm. What's that white spot behind the soldier's helmet (right side) on the top photo?

107 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:12:19pm

re: #81 jamesfirecat

So you're saying the fact that the GOP manages to win the Novemeber midterms won't lead them rush head longs towards Crazville come 2012 and get slammed in the Presidential race?

well it all depends on how people vote...re: #94 jamesfirecat

Umm... the reason I listed that you gave for registering Dem is one you've mentioned on LGF before.

So were you lying then or lying now?

you watch to much TV...

108 samuraishake  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:12:27pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

And they will improve the GOP's Congressional delegation by being in it.

Except the crazies won't listen to them.

109 Max  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:13:18pm

re: #106 Gus 802

And how do we know these photos are genuine if all the faces are covered by helmets and blindfolds?

110 darthstar  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:13:53pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

In my district, they are not. Mark Kirk and Joel Pollack are not loons, not at all. And they will improve the GOP's Congressional delegation by being in it.



Yes, except that Kirk fundraises in China and voted to send more US jobs overseas. He's not on our side.

111 bratwurst  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:14:01pm

re: #87 brookly red

we have been down this road before...

And you never explained why you are so ashamed of your choice.

112 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:14:45pm

re: #91 HoosierHoops

I'm not voting next Tuesday.. I have only lived in Oklahoma for 30 days..
I'm still not sure who the biggest idiots are running here yet...The ads are viscous though..

Yes, the ads are VERY ugly in Cali too.
Why can't you vote?

113 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:14:58pm

re: #106 Gus 802

Hmm. What's that white spot behind the soldier's helmet (right side) on the top photo?

Can't tell. I'm no good at this sort of thing, anyway. I'll keep an eye open.

114 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:15:04pm

re: #111 bratwurst

And you never explained why you are so ashamed of your choice.

hey dude I owe you no explanations, so why don't you back off?

115 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:15:15pm

re: #99 Slumbering Behemoth

That's a bit unfair, dude. You can't really know what a person is thinking unless they say it. You can make assumptions, but those almost never reflect reality.

But Brook has said what I quoted before, that he lives in New York and registered as a D because that way he could at least try to cast a vote for the more conservative democrat since a Republican was unlikely to ever win election in his state....

Do you want me to have to dig up the post where he said it?

116 b_snark  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:15:25pm

re: #110 darthstar


Yes, except that Kirk fundraises in China and voted to send more US jobs overseas. He's not on our side.

He is if the US has to borrow money from China.

117 theheat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:15:50pm

re: #72 Killgore Trout

I'm leaving my Halloween stuff up through Christmas. Orange lights, a couple fiberglass pumpkins with lights, I have a whole little ceramic Halloween town with lights on the buffet. I have enough pumpkin latte mix to last awhile.

I don't care if people say Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays or whatever, and they can get their trees and have their church music programs, but I've decided Halloween will last about three months. Because I can, and because it makes me happy.

118 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:16:44pm

re: #113 SanFranciscoZionist

Can't tell. I'm no good at this sort of thing, anyway. I'll keep an eye open.

Doesn't look right. It should be the continuation of the wall in front of him. Over there it's just this clean white space and it doesn't even have a shadow.

119 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:17:13pm

re: #97 SanFranciscoZionist

It puts the lime in the coconut or else it gets the hose again.
/all this talk of fruit is driving me bananas...

120 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:17:13pm

re: #118 Gus 802

Doesn't look right. It should be the continuation of the wall in front of him. Over there it's just this clean white space and it doesn't even have a shadow.

Is it part of his helmet? Or something he's wearing on his back?

121 darthstar  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:17:16pm

Romo fractured his left clavicle...I may not like the Cowboys, but that sucks.

122 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:17:29pm

re: #114 brookly red

hey dude I owe you no explanations, so why don't you back off?

Huh?
How was this attack warranted?
It's a blog.
CHILL.
You don't have to explain anything, if you don't want to.
But, you can, if you want to engage in rational debate...

123 What, me worry?  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:17:59pm

re: #117 theheat

I'm leaving my Halloween stuff up through Christmas. Orange lights, a couple fiberglass pumpkins with lights, I have a whole little ceramic Halloween town with lights on the buffet. I have enough pumpkin latte mix to last awhile.

I don't care if people say Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays or whatever, and they can get their trees and have their church music programs, but I've decided Halloween will last about three months. Because I can, and because it makes me happy.

You can always dress up as Evil Santa, too.

124 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:18:19pm

re: #120 SanFranciscoZionist

Is it part of his helmet? Or something he's wearing on his back?

Doesn't look like it. It's too flat.

125 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:18:32pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

To be honest, I'm the kind of Republican who says "Unless my party runs a raving lunatic, I'm probably going to support the GOP. Even if the Dem were better."

That's cool. My wife does that for Dems. Me, I try very hard to vote for whom ever I believe will do the best job. I was seriously considering voting to re-elect the Republican AG up here till he tried to stonewall an investigation into a corrupt Republican DA (stalking a woman he met when she was a victim in court) for purely partisan reasons. So instead I did end up voting a straight Dem ticket this election but it was not with out careful thought about each candidate.

Oh, and I refuse to vote in uncontested races. It's meaningless.

126 What, me worry?  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:18:43pm

re: #120 SanFranciscoZionist

Is it part of his helmet? Or something he's wearing on his back?

It's a very poorly done cut/paste job.

127 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:18:50pm

re: #123 marjoriemoon

You can always dress up as Evil Santa, too.

Or Elvira!
LOL!

128 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:19:23pm

re: #125 wlewisiii

Oh, and I refuse to vote in uncontested races. It's meaningless.


If the candidate doesn't take the time to vote for themselves they don't deserve to win.

129 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:19:36pm

re: #115 jamesfirecat

Do you want me to have to dig up the post where he said it?

I gotta see it to believe it, bro. You know how I am.

130 samuraishake  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:20:02pm

re: #125 wlewisiii

I live in Wichita. My choices come down to "ultra-conservative Republican" or "slightly conservative Democrat." There's really nothing left of center, regardless of party...

131 Digital Display  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:20:04pm

re: #112 Floral Giraffe

Yes, the ads are VERY ugly in Cali too.
Why can't you vote?

Hi You..I could vote.. But I'm just not informed enough on local politics...
I believe a persons character is at least as important as their party affiliation..
That's how we moderate/Indies roll in elections..Sadly I'm not up to speed on Oklahoma politics...
/Hope you are well

132 b_snark  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:20:51pm

re: #123 marjoriemoon

You can always dress up as Evil Santa, too.

I've never had to dress up as Evil Santa, he dresses up as me.

I can't wait for the war on Christmas to begin.

133 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:21:23pm

re: #122 Floral Giraffe

Huh?
How was this attack warranted?
It's a blog.
CHILL.
You don't have to explain anything, if you don't want to.
But, you can, if you want to engage in rational debate...

exactly how was this attack warranted... I am accused of doing something wrong an explaining it & my telling someone to back off is considered an attack? Back off, is an attack? OK I see where this is going. What am I Israel or something?

134 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:22:18pm

re: #129 Slumbering Behemoth

I gotta see it to believe it, bro. You know how I am.

Well f*** that's gonna be painful to do... is there an easy way to search someone's comment history in LGF?

135 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:22:30pm

re: #127 Floral Giraffe

Or Elvira!
LOL!

Pics or it didn't happen.
/

136 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:22:43pm

re: #91 HoosierHoops

I'm not voting next Tuesday.. I have only lived in Oklahoma for 30 days..
I'm still not sure who the biggest idiots are running here yet...The ads are viscous though..

Viscous? Dipped in motor oil or molasses or both?

137 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:24:17pm

re: #130 samuraishake

I live in Wichita. My choices come down to "ultra-conservative Republican" or "slightly conservative Democrat." There's really nothing left of center, regardless of party...

Shudder. I've read about it. I am very glad I didn't have to vote in most of the other states in the nation this year. It's bad enough being in Wisconsin where we might loose Feingold to a anti-Science Ann Randian lunatic.

138 b_snark  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:24:18pm

re: #136 Alouette

Viscous? Dipped in motor oil or molasses or both?

Has to be molasses. Oil tastes like crap.

139 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:25:39pm

re: #138 b_sharp

Has to be molasses. Oil tastes like crap.

you eatin gulf shrimp huh?

140 What, me worry?  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:25:55pm

re: #133 brookly red

exactly how was this attack warranted... I am accused of doing something wrong an explaining it & my telling someone to back off is considered an attack? Back off, is an attack? OK I see where this is going. What am I Israel or something?

If I may...

Seems that folks here get cranky when you repeat the mantra "I am a Democrat" when your viewpoint is decidedly Republican. Anyway, it makes me cranky. You may have your reasons why you don't switch party affiliations, but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with philosophy.

141 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:26:37pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

In my district, they are not. Mark Kirk and Joel Pollack are not loons, not at all. And they will improve the GOP's Congressional delegation by being in it.

Sure, but your preferred candidate for governor wants to improve the odds of reproductive success for male rapists. He is objectively (to borrow your favorite phrase) pro rapist, and yet you plan to vote for him. Your reasoning relies purely on delusional, factional, dehumanizing rhetoric (The Dem Machine). You've been pumped full of so many lies that until last week you didn't even understand how tax brackets worked, yet you still think you should be taken seriously. It might be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

To be honest, I'm the kind of Republican who says "Unless my party runs a raving lunatic, I'm probably going to support the GOP. Even if the Dem were better."

Exactly my point, pure factionalism with absolutely zero integrity, a gang member's mentality.

142 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:26:41pm

re: #106 Gus 802

Hmm. What's that white spot behind the soldier's helmet (right side) on the top photo?

It's a bad mask job from the original picture.

144 Digital Display  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:27:27pm

re: #136 Alouette

Viscous? Dipped in motor oil or molasses or both?

1 1/2 hours of watching football and I get my balls busted for spelling.. I want you to know it passed spell check..LOL
spell check /on
Idiot check /off

*wink*

145 bratwurst  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:27:51pm

re: #114 brookly red

hey dude I owe you no explanations, so why don't you back off?

Well you are the guy who:

A) Constantly mentions which state he lives in

and

B) Constantly refers to the fact that he is a registered Democrat but much prefers Republicans

I am certain I am not the only lizard wondering if you will be casting your vote for Paladino. You posted yourself that you will be stepping over party lines in this very thread...so either hold your cards closer to your vest or don't get irked when you are asked a logical question.

146 Stanghazi  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:28:08pm

re: #140 marjoriemoon

If I may...

Seems that folks here get cranky when you repeat the mantra "I am a Democrat" when your viewpoint is decidedly Republican. Anyway, it makes me cranky. You may have your reasons why you don't switch party affiliations, but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with philosophy.

Hi everyone! I'm going to pipe in on this issue.

Anyone (oh please read every nasty comment that prefaces it with "I'm not a bigot, I'm really a Democrat, I'm a Republican BUT...."

Brookly has used this stupid ass untrue line ad infinitum. It's insulting.

Was then, is now.

147 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:30:12pm

re: #135 Slumbering Behemoth

She's AWESOME!
[Link: www.laweekly.com...]
I hope to look so good at her age!
It's a great story, do read it!
She spends HOURs on body makeup due to burn scars...

148 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:30:36pm

re: #140 marjoriemoon

If I may...

Seems that folks here get cranky when you repeat the mantra "I am a Democrat" when your viewpoint is decidedly Republican. Anyway, it makes me cranky. You may have your reasons why you don't switch party affiliations, but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with philosophy.

Nooo I am a conservative... it has nothing to do with party. Please don't put your labels on me cause I don't ask you to explain your thinking. I am an American citizen by birth, and I don't feel the need to explain my thinking to anyone who wants to may blog hay.

149 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:31:18pm

re: #131 HoosierHoops

Hi You..I could vote.. But I'm just not informed enough on local politics...
I believe a persons character is at least as important as their party affiliation..
That's how we moderate/Indies roll in elections..Sadly I'm not up to speed on Oklahoma politics...
/Hope you are well

There's still time, unless your HIDEOUS work schedule is in the way?
Will it end soon?
How's Winston?

150 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:31:51pm

re: #145 bratwurst

Well you are the guy who:

A) Constantly mentions which state he lives in

and

B) Constantly refers to the fact that he is a registered Democrat but much prefers Republicans

I am certain I am not the only lizard wondering if you will be casting your vote for Paladino. You posted yourself that you will be stepping over party lines in this very thread...so either hold your cards closer to your vest or don't get irked when you are asked a logical question.

So why don't you tell us about yourself? You seem to have all the answers...

151 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:33:26pm

re: #146 Stanley Sea

WOOT!
Go Stanley!

152 Stanghazi  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:34:32pm

re: #151 Floral Giraffe

WOOT!
Go Stanley!

Hey, I've been dormant, but I didn't die!!!

153 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:35:00pm

re: #110 darthstar

The Kos is dismissed out of hand when it comes to a story like that. If its in the Washington Post I might notice, but the Kos has an ax to grind.

154 bratwurst  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:35:31pm

re: #150 brookly red

So why don't you tell us about yourself? You seem to have all the answers...

I'll tell you what, as soon as I spend thousands of posts talking about where I live and which party I am registered with, that will be an excellent question!

However, in the interest of being fair: I live in Illinois and have already voted. I held my nose and voted for Quinn for Governor and Giannoulias for Senate. Both candidates are DEEPLY flawed, but I could not accept the deeper flaws of their competition.

Your turn.

155 tommysilver  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:35:32pm

(1) straw man argument that
(2) misunderstands a simple metaphor (shotgun vs. back seat of a car, not front or back of the bus) in order to
(3) bemoan the impropriety of calling Obama the n-word.

The bozo could simply have made the point that Obama is probably in no position to impose these types of demands given what is likely to happen on November 2. But no, the smug dope had to go and prove his own racism.

156 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:36:19pm

re: #141 goddamnedfrank

Go soak your head.

157 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:37:10pm

re: #129 Slumbering Behemoth

I gotta see it to believe it, bro. You know how I am.

Here's a start....


[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I can't easily find the exact one where he spins the whole tale, but really Brookyl if you don't like Democrats anymore why not just become a Republican, they're the part you seem to stick up for most often... is there anything about the current Democratic party that you like?

158 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:37:36pm

re: #146 Stanley Sea

Hi everyone! I'm going to pipe in on this issue.

Anyone (oh please read every nasty comment that prefaces it with "I'm not a bigot, I'm really a Democrat, I'm a Republican BUT..."

Brookly has used this stupid ass untrue line ad infinitum. It's insulting.

Was then, is now.

I get a kick knowing that a whole lot of people that don't post read this... go on have your fun. It really doesn't matter outside your very small world. But go on if it makes you feel somehow superior... it's all good.

159 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:37:52pm

re: #154 bratwurst

I'll tell you what, as soon as I spend thousands of posts talking about where I live and which party I am registered with, that will be an excellent question!

However, in the interest of being fair: I live in Illinois and have already voted. I held my nose and voted for Quinn for Governor and Giannoulias for Senate. Both candidates are DEEPLY flawed, but I could not accept the deeper flaws of their competition.

Your turn.

Well, you and I had that conversation, we ended up voting for different candidates. But whoever wins, I still respect you and hope you respect me as well.

160 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:37:54pm

re: #152 Stanley Sea

Hey, I've been dormant, but I didn't die!!!

LOL!
I grow some terrestrial plants, that truly do go dormant.
YOU DO NOT remind me of them!
Glad to see you back, posting.

161 What, me worry?  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:38:57pm

re: #148 brookly red

Nooo I am a conservative... it has nothing to do with party. Please don't put your labels on me cause I don't ask you to explain your thinking. I am an American citizen by birth, and I don't feel the need to explain my thinking to anyone who wants to may blog hay.

There are conservative liberals, for sure. But that isn't you. You may be a liberal conservative, but you fit into the Republican form far better. And you're too smart not to know it.

Yeah, I hear you... I am the kind of Democrat that is steppin over the line next week.

And you kinda like to throw it out there to fire up the masses.

162 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:39:05pm

re: #157 jamesfirecat

Here's a start...

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I can't easily find the exact one where he spins the whole tale, but really Brookyl if you don't like Democrats anymore why not just become a Republican, they're the part you seem to stick up for most often... is there anything about the current Democratic party that you like?

He's registered as a Democrat so he can vote in Democratic primaries. In NYC, they are often more important than the general election.

163 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:39:12pm

re: #157 jamesfirecat

Here's a start...

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I can't easily find the exact one where he spins the whole tale, but really Brookyl if you don't like Democrats anymore why not just become a Republican, they're the part you seem to stick up for most often... is there anything about the current Democratic party that you like?

I am leaning Libertarian... but again, what is it to you?

164 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:39:49pm

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

Well, you and I had that conversation, we ended up voting for different candidates. But whoever wins, I still respect you and hope you respect me as well.

Or will have voted. I'm not voting till election day.

165 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:39:58pm

Paul Robeson (yes, I'm on a kick, tonight)
Amazing Grace.
Praise the Lord & pass the ammunition.
This is ammunition for my soul.

Youtube Video
166 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:41:05pm

re: #162 Dark_Falcon

He's registered as a Democrat so he can vote in Democratic primaries. In NYC, they are often more important than the general election.

Yeah that's sort of been my point.

Thank you for confirming it Dark.

He's a much a "Democrat" as I would be a "Republican" if I moved to (fill in the blank Ultra Red state), realized nobody with a "D" next to their name could get elected there and decided to cast my vote in a primary for the most liberal republican.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with him doing that as everyone has a right to try and make their vote count for as much as it can, but he shouldn't pretend the fact that he doesn't like Obama or does like some Conservative candidate marks a major windshift in America's fotunes politically....

167 What, me worry?  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:41:12pm

re: #163 brookly red

I am leaning Libertarian... but again, what is it to you?

Libertarians are farther right than Republicans!

168 What, me worry?  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:41:41pm

re: #163 brookly red

I am leaning Libertarian... but again, what is it to you?

Brookly, it may be time for an intervention. I'm just saying...

gotta hit the sack. talk to ya'll later.

169 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:42:31pm

re: #165 Floral Giraffe

Paul Robeson (yes, I'm on a kick, tonight)
Amazing Grace.
Praise the Lord & pass the ammunition.
This is ammunition for my soul.


[Video]

Amazing Grace would be a bit better from him if he had not been a Communist. Still, he admitted his mistakes and died in good standing with God. I have little doubt that the Lord received Paul Robeson unto His mercy.

170 Linden Arden  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:43:44pm

re: #167 marjoriemoon

Libertarians are farther right than Republicans!

On social issues?

On contraception and mandatory school prayer?

171 bratwurst  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:44:29pm

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

Well, you and I had that conversation, we ended up voting for different candidates. But whoever wins, I still respect you and hope you respect me as well.

The SoCon thing with Brady was an absolute no-go for me. Had the GOP fielded a moderate candidate, they could have EASILY had my vote.

Kirk vs. Giannoulias was a much harder decision. I am willing to admit that I did as you posted above: went with my party as the candidate, while flawed, is not a total lunatic.

There is much to respect about Kirk. However, I truly wonder how you would treat a Democrat who told such a bald-faced lie about his own military service the way Kirk did. He seems to have served admirably...what was the point of making such a ridiculous, easily fact-checked claim? Having said that, should Kirk win I will take some consolation that Illinois voted in the ONE AND ONLY 2010 GOP Senate Candidate who doesn't turn up his nose at the huge sum of climate change research.

172 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:45:03pm

re: #162 Dark_Falcon

He's registered as a Democrat so he can vote in Democratic primaries. In NYC, they are often more important than the general election.

Thanks DF, but that is only half the story... I registered D in 1976 when I turned 18 mostly against the war. But it dose not matter, I am just really intrigued by how much others care about how I think, speak or vote... I is almost like I am important or something. LOL

173 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:45:15pm

re: #130 samuraishake

I live in Wichita. My choices come down to "ultra-conservative Republican" or "slightly conservative Democrat." There's really nothing left of center, regardless of party...

That's what I mean when I say that democrats/republicans in certain regions won't look or sound like democrats/republicans.

Take the case of the invasive sonogram abortion bill in Louisiana. Sponsored by a democrat, and nearly as many dems voted in favor of it as reps.

This is why blind partisanship loyalty is not a virtue.

174 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:45:59pm

re: #167 marjoriemoon

Libertarians are farther right than Republicans!

look what you made me do :)

175 b_snark  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:46:10pm

G'night scaly peeps.

176 Nick Schroeder  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:47:53pm

I don't get it.

At all.

Oh, wait. I forgot we were talking about idiots here. In that case, Obama using an analogy about not letting Republicans drive the country any more is exactly the same thing as Joe Cheetos-Fingers banging out n-bomb laced screeds via stolen wifi internet from his trailer park.

177 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:48:22pm

Not even remotely topical, but: I just delved into my first jar of Mrs. Renfro's Ghost Pepper Salsa, and zomg, it is ecstasy.

Anyone can make intolerably hot novelty "hot sauce", but combining real flavor with the relentless slow burn of the hottest peppers takes talent, and the Mrs. Renfro's people succeed admirably.

blah blah blah.

178 Max  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:49:31pm

The Israel haters are getting frisky on Twitter.

179 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:49:38pm

re: #147 Floral Giraffe

She's AWESOME!
[Link: www.laweekly.com...]
I hope to look so good at her age!
It's a great story, do read it!
She spends HOURs on body makeup due to burn scars...

If I end up looking as good as her at that age, it will be because of something like this.

Then I will promptly line my entire bedroom with mirrors, never to leave my house again.

/and I will do things to myself that would make Christine O'Donnell curl up in a dark corner, crying and shivering...

180 Digital Display  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:50:17pm

re: #149 Floral Giraffe

There's still time, unless your HIDEOUS work schedule is in the way?
Will it end soon?
How's Winston?

I have a plan..My first day off I'm staying in bed...TV, Internet, Food and the newspapers which I will read and toss on the floor after I read each section.. I will trash the bedroom and sleep on and off every couple of hours..Winston doesn't think I really live here..I just show up every night to feed him..

181 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:50:52pm

I'll say it.

I am very, very sad for my Cowboys.

182 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:50:59pm

re: #169 Dark_Falcon

He had a God given gift, his voice, and he used it as effectively as he could, given the prejudices of the times he lived in.
I would hope to be as strong as he was.
But, I don't think I would be.
Still, a gift to us, to be able to hear his voice, and know of his struggles.

183 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:51:47pm

re: #177 negativ

Not even remotely topical, but: I just delved into my first jar of Mrs. Renfro's Ghost Pepper Salsa, and zomg, it is ecstasy.

Anyone can make intolerably hot novelty "hot sauce", but combining real flavor with the relentless slow burn of the hottest peppers takes talent, and the Mrs. Renfro's people succeed admirably.

blah blah blah.


Congratulations!

184 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:53:12pm

re: #147 Floral Giraffe

She's AWESOME!
[Link: www.laweekly.com...]
I hope to look so good at her age!
It's a great story, do read it!
She spends HOURs on body makeup due to burn scars...

She's only 59. Just found out. For some reason I thought she was older. Maybe it's just me getting older.

185 webevintage  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:53:48pm

re: #66 brookly red

Yeah, I hear you... I am the kind of Democrat that is steppin over the line next week.

So how long has it been since you have voted Democrat?
I mean don't you pretty much always "step over the line" and vote for Rs and I think no one would care how you voted except for the fact you always have to mention that you are registered as a D and use that as a way to say "OMG Ds suck so much that I have stopped voting for them!!!!".

186 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:53:54pm

re: #180 HoosierHoops

I have a plan..My first day off I'm staying in bed...TV, Internet, Food and the newspapers which I will read and toss on the floor after I read each section.. I will trash the bedroom and sleep on and off every couple of hours..Winston doesn't think I really live here..I just show up every night to feed him..

LOL!
How about a take out pseudo wife? (AKA Maid service)
Food delivered, trash picked up, toilets cleaned, and you get to sleep in!
WIN WIN!
Clean sheets, too, once you get out of them!
Just a thought...
LOL!

187 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:54:15pm

re: #157 jamesfirecat

That doesn't exactly back up what you were saying before. By using that same logic, you could say that me being a republican, disillusioned with the current direction of my party and willing to cross lines at the ballot box, am also perpetrating a lie for disingenuous purposes.

188 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:54:34pm

re: #171 bratwurst

The SoCon thing with Brady was an absolute no-go for me. Had the GOP fielded a moderate candidate, they could have EASILY had my vote.

Kirk vs. Giannoulias was a much harder decision. I am willing to admit that I did as you posted above: went with my party as the candidate, while flawed, is not a total lunatic.

There is much to respect about Kirk. However, I truly wonder how you would treat a Democrat who told such a bald-faced lie about his own military service the way Kirk did. He seems to have served admirably...what was the point of making such a ridiculous, easily fact-checked claim? Having said that, should Kirk win I will take some consolation that Illinois voted in the ONE AND ONLY 2010 GOP Senate Candidate who doesn't turn up his nose at the huge sum of climate change research.

For me, Brady's SoCon factor gave me pause. But my main concern this time around is cutting back the strength of the Democrats statewide, because I feel their influence has been very bad. I almost wish it was possible for the GOP to win the legislature and Quinn to keep the governor's mansion. But that still wouldn't work for me, given that 2011 will see Illinois need to redistrict.

Kirk, by contrast, was an easy call for me. Kirk should have been straight about his military record, but Giannoulias is actually corrupt, which Pat Quinn is not. I won't vote for a corrupt politician, not after I got burned by George Ryan (the one time I wish I'd voted for the Democrat).

189 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:54:52pm

Way OT but music at least, my sudden new favorite album is 2008's "Meet Glen Campbell"

Here's just one reason why:

Youtube Video

Yes, it really is a cover of that song... ;) The rest of the album is even better. Not quite the same level as Cash & Hurt but it comes real close at times and maintains through the whole album.

190 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:55:25pm

re: #184 Gus 802

She has burns, from childhood, that are so very very sad.
She is incredible !
(And, Gus, she is available! LOL!)

191 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:55:31pm

re: #182 Floral Giraffe

He had a God given gift, his voice, and he used it as effectively as he could, given the prejudices of the times he lived in.
I would hope to be as strong as he was.
But, I don't think I would be.
Still, a gift to us, to be able to hear his voice, and know of his struggles.

True that.

192 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:55:55pm

re: #190 Floral Giraffe

She has burns, from childhood, that are so very very sad.
She is incredible !
(And, Gus, she is available! LOL!)

I'm willing to relocate.

/I can dream!

/

193 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:57:44pm

So, I'd like to hear some other Lizard Haloween Fantasies?
What's up?

194 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:57:52pm

re: #169 Dark_Falcon

Amazing Grace would be a bit better from him if he had not been a Communist. Still, he admitted his mistakes and died in good standing with God. I have little doubt that the Lord received Paul Robeson unto His mercy.

Ah the eternal debate of love the song hate the singer... for example can we enjoy "Anne are you okay" without thinking about the man who wrote it?

195 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:58:42pm

re: #192 Gus 802

:drops a single:

"Hey Gus, is that a C-Note lying there on the ground?"

:promptly knocks Gus to the ground while he's distracted, and halls ass in Elvira's direction:

196 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:59:22pm

re: #193 Floral Giraffe

So, I'd like to hear some other Lizard Haloween Fantasies?
What's up?

Let's see. Fantasy. I have 250 million dollars in several bank accounts and I'm getting ready to leave town for the next 6 months.

197 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:59:24pm

Watching the Giants vs. Cowboys game:

Note to the Bears: The thing that lets the Giants win is called a "offensive line". You need to get one that can protect the quarterback.

198 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:59:26pm

re: #187 Slumbering Behemoth

That doesn't exactly back up what you were saying before. By using that same logic, you could say that me being a republican, disillusioned with the current direction of my party and willing to cross lines at the ballot box, am also perpetrating a lie for disingenuous purposes.

Look at Dark's 162, he's been here longer than me, so he may have a better grasp of the story for you than I do....

199 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 7:59:44pm

re: #193 Floral Giraffe

So, I'd like to hear some other Lizard Haloween Fantasies?
What's up?

Pumpkin pie.

200 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:00:21pm

re: #193 Floral Giraffe

So, I'd like to hear some other Lizard Haloween Fantasies?
What's up?

Fantasies, or Realities? How far down that rabbit hole are you willing to go?

201 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:00:36pm

re: #197 Dark_Falcon

But, I didn't say 'Fudge'.

202 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:00:52pm

re: #199 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Pumpkin pie.

LOL!
Hi Veggie!
*PIE*

203 BlarneyStone  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:01:21pm

LOL, I never heard the 'racism will end' campaign promise. Talk about weird projection issues.

But, here is a small indirect anecdote of race relations improving. I had an ugly racial incident at work with a boss in 2006. After 2009, my work situation improved overnight. I have thought that this is possibly due to the fact that people are more comfortable seeing a minority in a leadership position.

204 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:01:27pm

Cowboys are re-breaking my fucking heart.

I am starting to think they mean to.

205 BryanS  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:01:53pm

Wow. Redstate posting that--and then leaving it up--is just horrible

206 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:02:20pm

re: #193 Floral Giraffe

So, I'd like to hear some other Lizard Haloween Fantasies?
What's up?

I love the season but I'm not a fan of Halloween. I'll turn off the lights and hide.

207 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:02:22pm

Fuck it. G'night John-Boy.

208 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:02:29pm

re: #187 Slumbering Behemoth

That doesn't exactly back up what you were saying before. By using that same logic, you could say that me being a republican, disillusioned with the current direction of my party and willing to cross lines at the ballot box, am also perpetrating a lie for disingenuous purposes.

Also, you didn't register as a Republican with the intention of voting Democrat in most elections it was just that your own side presented you with unpalatable candidates.

Brook I contend registered a Democrat with the intention of still voting Republican in most general elections....

209 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:04:06pm

re: #199 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And, may I please have an update on your daughter's boyfriend?
I hope the nes is even better, than I last got.
It sounds really good!
*smooch*
(Don't tell you wife! LOL!)

210 CarleeCork  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:04:15pm

re: #193 Floral Giraffe

So, I'd like to hear some other Lizard Haloween Fantasies?
What's up?


Christine O'Donnell dressed up like a witch?

211 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:04:27pm

re: #198 jamesfirecat

That's still hearsay. Like I said, in his/her own words, with my own eyes.

And this is not to say I don't think it's possible. It's entirely conceivable, and I too have given BR shit along this line, but have yet to see such a confession with my own eyes.

212 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:06:15pm

re: #208 jamesfirecat

Also, you didn't register as a Republican with the intention of voting Democrat in most elections it was just that your own side presented you with unpalatable candidates.

Brook I contend registered a Democrat with the intention of still voting Republican in most general elections...

so freakin what? Why would that be important to you?

213 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:07:04pm

re: #211 Slumbering Behemoth

That's still hearsay. Like I said, in his/her own words, with my own eyes.

And this is not to say I don't think it's possible. It's entirely conceivable, and I too have given BR shit along this line, but have yet to see such a confession with my own eyes.

Well it's not just hearsay, or at least its not entirely hearsay, there's also the fact that it does need to be asked, what about the modern day Democratic party appeals to Brook? Because I'm pretty sure it's not the healthcare....

214 BryanS  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:07:17pm

re: #210 CarleeCork

Christine O'Donnell dressed up like a witch?

Or a witch dressed up like O'Donnell?

215 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:07:43pm

re: #186 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
How about a take out pseudo wife? (AKA Maid service)
Food delivered, trash picked up, toilets cleaned, and you get to sleep in!
WIN WIN!
Clean sheets, too, once you get out of them!
Just a thought...
LOL!

OK, this is just funny.
DUDES!
Lots of ladies would be DELIGHTED ( Notice it's in capital letters?) to help you out with this. It's NOT hard...

216 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:08:27pm

re: #213 jamesfirecat

Well it's not just hearsay, or at least its not entirely hearsay, there's also the fact that it does need to be asked, what about the modern day Democratic party appeals to Brook? Because I'm pretty sure it's not the healthcare...

Gosh I feel so important...

217 Digital Display  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:08:55pm

re: #206 Killgore Trout

I love the season but I'm not a fan of Halloween. I'll turn off the lights and hide.

Cops are every where.. bunch of College kids are fighting on the street..This is unreal...This is the price you pay living 2 blocks from the OU Campus..
I ain't going out there..There is danger on the street tonight

218 funky chicken  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:09:58pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

In my district, they are not. Mark Kirk and Joel Pollack are not loons, not at all. And they will improve the GOP's Congressional delegation by being in it.

Kirk's probably better than Alexi G anyway. And he'll keep the hotair nuts busy screaming RINO for a couple of years also. Win win!

219 Renaissance_Man  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:10:07pm

re: #213 jamesfirecat

Well it's not just hearsay, or at least its not entirely hearsay, there's also the fact that it does need to be asked, what about the modern day Democratic party appeals to Brook? Because I'm pretty sure it's not the healthcare...

The fact that merely by saying he belongs to it, he can get a lot of attention from other posters here for casting a run-of-the-mill, irrational, rage-based vote.

220 BryanS  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:10:21pm

re: #217 HoosierHoops

Cops are every where.. bunch of College kids are fighting on the street..This is unreal...This is the price you pay living 2 blocks from the OU Campus..
I ain't going out there..There is danger on the street tonight

It ain't even Halloween yet. Just wait till the weekend, I guess.

221 jamesfirecat  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:10:59pm

re: #212 brookly red

so freakin what? Why would that be important to you?

It's important to me, because its worth pointing out the context of why you're a democrat whenever you claim something along the lines of "Sweety pie, I am a democrat. I am a working man and support the little guy cause I am one. I just thank God have eyes & can see."

222 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:11:00pm

re: #217 HoosierHoops

Cops are every where.. bunch of College kids are fighting on the street..This is unreal...This is the price you pay living 2 blocks from the OU Campus..
I ain't going out there..There is danger on the street tonight

Oh please if that is all you got to worry about count your blessings...

PS sorry about Roma...

223 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:11:28pm

re: #204 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Cowboys are re-breaking my fucking heart.

I am starting to think they mean to.

The Giants have a very aggressive and adaptable defense. Unlike the Colts, the Giant defense doesn't just protect a lead, they actively go after the other side to force turnovers.

And the Cowboys' defensive failure isn't helping. Once the Giants found their bearings, they've kept Eli Manning safe. And if you let Eli Manning sit in the pocket like that, you will get pummeled.

224 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:12:33pm

re: #209 Floral Giraffe

Still paralyzed. Sad for him, but... he ain't diddlin' my daughter either.

Mixed blessing, if I may be so bold.

225 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:12:57pm

re: #190 Floral Giraffe

She has burns, from childhood, that are so very very sad.
She is incredible !
(And, Gus, she is available! LOL!)

I have burn scars, from a 1994 chicken soup attack. (must have been the Gaza rooster)

How come I'm not that hot?

226 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:13:16pm

re: #217 HoosierHoops

Bummer. Drunk college kids are pretty obnoxious. I know because I was one.

227 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:13:26pm

Halloween Party
Date taken: 1941

[Link: images.google.com...]

228 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:13:42pm

re: #223 Dark_Falcon

Oh! Okay!

(that helped)

229 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:13:54pm

re: #217 HoosierHoops

Cops are every where.. bunch of College kids are fighting on the street..This is unreal...This is the price you pay living 2 blocks from the OU Campus..
I ain't going out there..There is danger on the street tonight

Stay safe, my friend.
Winston too!

230 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:14:00pm

re: #221 jamesfirecat

It's important to me, because its worth pointing out the context of why you're a democrat whenever you claim something along the lines of "Sweety pie, I am a democrat. I am a working man and support the little guy cause I am one. I just thank God have eyes & can see."

well that is kinda funny...

231 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:14:40pm

I've been doing some tree trimming and I have 3-4 yule logs ready to go. Nice big ones that should burn all night long.

232 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:14:58pm

re: #209 Floral Giraffe

Meh! News.

233 BryanS  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:15:17pm

The guy who posted his race trashing desires on red state doesn't post all that much looking at all posts on his account. Most of his posts seem rather fringy. But I have one big question? What gets him on the front page? Did editorial controls push this racist, idiotic post up front? If so, even friggen worse.

234 webevintage  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:15:48pm

re: #227 Gus 802

Halloween Party
Date taken: 1941

[Link: images.google.com...]

Ok, the bag is awesome, but really some of the creepiest Halloween pictures I have ever seen are from before 1950. They had some scary looking masks, look at that witch in back of bag boy.

235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:15:51pm

re: #231 Killgore Trout

Lionel Riche?

236 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:17:21pm

re: #227 Gus 802

Halloween Party
Date taken: 1941

[Link: images.google.com...]

Some great stuff in that slideshow.

237 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:17:25pm

re: #235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Lionel Riche?

are you trying to kill the thread or what?

238 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:17:30pm

re: #234 webevintage

Ok, the bag is awesome, but really some of the creepiest Halloween pictures I have ever seen are from before 1950. They had some scary looking masks, look at that witch in back of bag boy.

Yeah. I liked the economy of the paper bag. That witch mask is kind of spooky.

239 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:17:45pm

re: #158 brookly red

I get a kick knowing that a whole lot of people that don't post read this... go on have your fun. It really doesn't matter outside your very small world. But go on if it makes you feel somehow superior... it's all good.

Ah, come on. You really do repeatedly point out that you're a registered Democrat, and you spend a fair amount of time these days gloating about how the Democrats are going down...and you really do go on the attack, quite aggressively, any time anyone points this out, or asks who you're voting for.

I don't care who you're voting for. I do get bored with the Democrat bit, and also the 'hard rain coming' rhetoric.

240 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:19:13pm

re: #162 Dark_Falcon

He's registered as a Democrat so he can vote in Democratic primaries. In NYC, they are often more important than the general election.

Makes perfect sense--except that he uses the Democrat thing as a club, to deny being partisan.

His right, but I get tired of being snarled at when I point it out.

241 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:19:21pm

re: #236 Killgore Trout

Some great stuff in that slideshow.

What's this?

[Link: images.google.com...]

242 funky chicken  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:19:42pm

re: #217 HoosierHoops

Cops are every where.. bunch of College kids are fighting on the street..This is unreal...This is the price you pay living 2 blocks from the OU Campus..
I ain't going out there..There is danger on the street tonight

What? Really? It's Monday night, Oct. 25. Is that some kind of special OU day or something? You need to move up to Edmond. Nothing ever happens up here. At all. Norman actually has some bad traffic, for Oklahoma anyway.

The weather's been good for the last couple of months though. Norman was hit hard by the ice storm last winter and tornadoes in the spring/early summer, so hopefully their crappy weather quota was filled for a couple of years.

243 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:21:07pm

re: #239 SanFranciscoZionist

Ah, come on. You really do repeatedly point out that you're a registered Democrat, and you spend a fair amount of time these days gloating about how the Democrats are going down...and you really do go on the attack, quite aggressively, any time anyone points this out, or asks who you're voting for.

I don't care who you're voting for. I do get bored with the Democrat bit, and also the 'hard rain coming' rhetoric.

well yeah, hello! the Dems are going down, & maybe we should look at why instead of blaming me, shooting the messenger solves not so much.

244 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:21:13pm

re: #178 Max D. Reinhardt

The Israel haters are getting frisky on Twitter.

They're absolutely climbing the walls on a Pete Seeger fan page on Facebook. (Don't ask.) The kindest thing any of the attack squad over there has said to me is that Jews are really Khazars.

245 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:21:37pm

re: #213 jamesfirecat

Well it's not just hearsay, or at least its not entirely hearsay, there's also the fact that it does need to be asked, what about the modern day Democratic party appeals to Brook? Because I'm pretty sure it's not the healthcare...

It is hearsay in the fact that these comments are not coming straight from the horse's mouth, but from others. I guess I just have a kind of antennae that picks up on this sort of thing after someone has lied about my opinions before, claiming that I did not have the spine to speak against some nasty act when I in fact did.

I'm not saying you or anyone else is lying, I'm just saying I gotta see things with my own eyes. I'm not the type to believe in ghosts just because someone told me they saw one.

246 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:21:43pm

Drive by post:

I am feeling like being Captain Obvious.

The reason, Mr. Red State Poster, that you don't make racial slurs is because only cretins make them, regardless of the other person.

Class resides with you, not with other people.

My Mama will be over to talk with you shortly and explain the difference, because she seemed to have gotten through to me, but nobody got through to you.

247 Reginald Perrin  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:21:59pm

re: #239 SanFranciscoZionist

Ah, come on. You really do repeatedly point out that you're a registered Democrat, and you spend a fair amount of time these days gloating about how the Democrats are going down...and you really do go on the attack, quite aggressively, any time anyone points this out, or asks who you're voting for.

I don't care who you're voting for. I do get bored with the Democrat bit, and also the 'hard rain coming' rhetoric.

He may be doing it because it gets him a lot of attention.

248 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:22:38pm

re: #244 SanFranciscoZionist

They're absolutely climbing the walls on a Pete Seeger fan page on Facebook. (Don't ask.) The kindest thing any of the attack squad over there has said to me is that Jews are really Khazars.

Evidence? DNA? Archeology?

249 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:23:14pm

besides, if I didn't give y'all something to reject what would upding yourselves on?

250 BryanS  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:23:22pm

re: #241 Gus 802

What's this?

[Link: images.google.com...]

Yeah. Freaky. Imagine doing this today:

[Link: images.google.com...]


Hilarious to think of doing, but damn would that get you arrested today in no time!

251 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:24:11pm

What Tea Party violence?

Woman stomped outside Conway-Paul debate (with video)

Outside the Conway-Paul debate, a Rand Paul supporter pulled the woman's blonde wig off and stomped on her head. She was representing the liberal organization MoveOn.org and claimed to be presenting Paul with an award from RepubliCorp. That's a group created by MoveOn.org that focuses on what it calls the merger between corporate America and the Republican Party.

"I'm here to present Rand Paul with the 'Employee of the Month' award, however his supporters were not very nice to me and my message which is same as everyone else. I got my head stepped on and I have a bit of a headache," said Lauren Valle, MoveOn.org.

I usually don't make a big deal out of these incidents, scuffles happen at protests and political events. However this one is pretty bad. Looks like 3-4 men beating up a woman and kicking her on the ground. Pretty ugly.

252 Digital Display  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:24:18pm

re: #229 Floral Giraffe

Stay safe, my friend.
Winston too!

That was crazy..It just blew up outside on the street...It's all cool now...Usually college fights break out at parties..Not on the street..I wanted to run out yelling don't scratch my car! But Farmers insurance is overcharging me for full coverage on the Beemer so effening it..Bust what ever you want...It will be paid for....
/

253 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:24:33pm

re: #239 SanFranciscoZionist

Ah, come on. You really do repeatedly point out that you're a registered Democrat, and you spend a fair amount of time these days gloating about how the Democrats are going down...and you really do go on the attack, quite aggressively, any time anyone points this out, or asks who you're voting for.

I don't care who you're voting for. I do get bored with the Democrat bit, and also the 'hard rain coming' rhetoric.

Yes, it's boring.

254 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:24:44pm

re: #250 BryanS

Yeah. Freaky. Imagine doing this today:

[Link: images.google.com...]

Hilarious to think of doing, but damn would that get you arrested today in no time!

Or this:

[Link: images.google.com...]

255 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:24:51pm

re: #247 Reginald Perrin

He may be doing it because it gets him a lot of attention.

if you want to ignore me I would be most happy... really I would.

256 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:24:57pm

re: #241 Gus 802

What's this?

[Link: images.google.com...]

Looks like a wire trash basket filled with flammables, hung on a utility pole, used as a light fixture, but now all burned out.

257 Digital Display  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:25:11pm

re: #242 funky chicken

What? Really? It's Monday night, Oct. 25. Is that some kind of special OU day or something? You need to move up to Edmond. Nothing ever happens up here. At all. Norman actually has some bad traffic, for Oklahoma anyway.

The weather's been good for the last couple of months though. Norman was hit hard by the ice storm last winter and tornadoes in the spring/early summer, so hopefully their crappy weather quota was filled for a couple of years.

I'm looking at houses in More..What do you think?

258 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:26:14pm

re: #256 Alouette

Looks like a wire trash basket filled with flammables, hung on a utility pole, used as a light fixture, but now all burned out.

Oh. Funny. I think that's it. Must have been an old ritual of sorts. :) Probably mischief night stuff.

259 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:26:28pm

re: #243 brookly red

well yeah, hello! the Dems are going down, & maybe we should look at why instead of blaming me, shooting the messenger solves not so much.

Ah yes. Brookly is only the messenger.

Deep sigh.

260 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:26:36pm

re: #249 brookly red

besides, if I didn't give y'all something to reject what would upding yourselves on?

Pr0n links. Beautiful, beautiful pr0n links.
/

Besides, I can "reject" your political leanings without hating your guts and spewing childish shit at you. I'm funny like that.

261 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:27:04pm

re: #247 Reginald Perrin

It's a human condition, we like attention.
And love, affection, and rewards to our needs.
How we get it, is another story.
Sir.

262 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:27:04pm

re: #258 Gus 802

There's also a cute pic of two boys tipping over an outhouse.

263 Reginald Perrin  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:27:12pm

re: #244 SanFranciscoZionist

They're absolutely climbing the walls on a Pete Seeger fan page on Facebook. (Don't ask.) The kindest thing any of the attack squad over there has said to me is that Jews are really Khazars.

I am going to ask....what is that about?

264 BryanS  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:27:22pm

re: #254 Gus 802

Or this:

[Link: images.google.com...]

True...though depending on where you do that these days it might get you shot.

265 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:27:23pm

re: #253 Floral Giraffe

Yes, it's boring.

ho hum... yet you still keep poking at me. if it really bored you you would ignore it...

266 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:27:38pm

re: #248 Emmmieg

Evidence? DNA? Archeology?

Evidence? When you're dealing with "Zionazis", you don't need no stinking evidence!

(Wish this was sarc. They talk exactly like that, all the time.)

267 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:28:05pm

re: #249 brookly red

besides, if I didn't give y'all something to reject what would upding yourselves on?

I don't know. If people didn't ask you if you were voting for Paladino, what would you have to get manic about?

268 jaunte  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:28:45pm

re: #251 Killgore Trout

What Tea Party violence?

Woman stomped outside Conway-Paul debate (with video)

I usually don't make a big deal out of these incidents, scuffles happen at protests and political events. However this one is pretty bad. Looks like 3-4 men beating up a woman and kicking her on the ground. Pretty ugly.

Nasty.

269 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:28:53pm

re: #251 Killgore Trout

What Tea Party violence?

Woman stomped outside Conway-Paul debate (with video)

I usually don't make a big deal out of these incidents, scuffles happen at protests and political events. However this one is pretty bad. Looks like 3-4 men beating up a woman and kicking her on the ground. Pretty ugly.

Cripes. A bunch of old men stomping on some young woman.

270 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:29:17pm

re: #265 brookly red

Ok, since you asked, I will put you on "ignore".
Unless you're getting down dinged.
At your request, my dear!

271 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:29:28pm

re: #244 SanFranciscoZionist

They're absolutely climbing the walls on a Pete Seeger fan page on Facebook. (Don't ask.) The kindest thing any of the attack squad over there has said to me is that Jews are really Khazars.

It's sad that Pete Seeger actually supports the boycott of Israel.

272 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:30:05pm

re: #263 Reginald Perrin

I am going to ask...what is that about?

Denying that Ashkenazi Jews are racially Middle Eastern. If we're not really from there, we ain't got a right to go back.

It's been thoroughly debunked over and over, but the extreme fringe of the anti-Israel movement really need Jews to be as white as humanly possible.

273 Renaissance_Man  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:30:32pm

re: #243 brookly red

well yeah, hello! the Dems are going down, & maybe we should look at why instead of blaming me, shooting the messenger solves not so much.

Those reasons are:

1. The economy is in a poor state, and the party in power will hurt at the polls whether they are to blame or not.

2. The Conservative cult media has almost total control of an angry cult of voters who believe in a fantasy world almost totally unconnected to reality, and have an irrational hatred of Democrats. The size of this cult might be comparatively small compared to the population, but in a country like the US where voting is not compulsory, relatively small numbers of angry, deluded voters can have a large impact.

3. The Conservative cult media is able to frame almost every issue that reaches the national consciousness, and in a culture as media-driven as the modern USA, that gives it great influence. True believers and uncritical observers allow it to present memes unchallenged by fact or reason. Furthermore, the target audience of these memes is among the most gullible and easily emotionally manipulated.

274 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:30:42pm

re: #260 Slumbering Behemoth

Pr0n links. Beautiful, beautiful pr0n links.
/

Besides, I can "reject" your political leanings without hating your guts and spewing childish shit at you. I'm funny like that.

well that is why I correspond with you. you don't feel the need to have the peanut gallery back you up. you can stand on your own & I respect that.

275 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:30:54pm

re: #271 Alouette

It's sad that Pete Seeger actually supports the boycott of Israel.

But he is going to perform in Israel for the Arava people, and folks are absolutely flipping out.

276 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:30:59pm

re: #266 SanFranciscoZionist

Evidence? When you're dealing with "Zionazis", you don't need no stinking evidence!

(Wish this was sarc. They talk exactly like that, all the time.)

I had a feeling it was that way. One of my children comes up with ideas out of his skull. His father and I are patiently working him out of that, explaining that you can't just...make stuff up. You have to go look it up somewhere reputable or have evidence or SOMETHING.

His excuse is that he's pretty young. What's theirs?

277 funky chicken  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:31:13pm

re: #257 HoosierHoops

Well....where do you work? Moore has some nice areas because it got, er, excavated by an F-5 that tore through there in the last decade. The traffic is heavier down there than up here, but there's more to do in Norman than Edmond. I would not even consider Piedmont or Yukon, and probably wouldn't look at Mustang either.

Be sure to ask if any house you look at flooded in July when we had a foot of rain in about 2 hours. Lots of places that aren't close to waterways flooded pretty bad. A lot of south Edmond and other places in OKC were under water.

278 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:31:20pm

re: #273 Renaissance_Man

Those reasons are:

1. The economy is in a poor state, and the party in power will hurt at the polls whether they are to blame or not.

2. The Conservative cult media has almost total control of an angry cult of voters who believe in a fantasy world almost totally unconnected to reality, and have an irrational hatred of Democrats. The size of this cult might be comparatively small compared to the population, but in a country like the US where voting is not compulsory, relatively small numbers of angry, deluded voters can have a large impact.

3. The Conservative cult media is able to frame almost every issue that reaches the national consciousness, and in a culture as media-driven as the modern USA, that gives it great influence. True believers and uncritical observers allow it to present memes unchallenged by fact or reason. Furthermore, the target audience of these memes is among the most gullible and easily emotionally manipulated.

Number one is, to my reckoning, the key one.

279 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:31:34pm

re: #267 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't know. If people didn't ask you if you were voting for Paladino, what would you have to get manic about?

your really getting pretty silly now.

280 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:31:52pm

re: #272 SanFranciscoZionist

Denying that Ashkenazi Jews are racially Middle Eastern. If we're not really from there, we ain't got a right to go back.

It's been thoroughly debunked over and over, but the extreme fringe of the anti-Israel movement really need Jews to be as white as humanly possible.


Crest body strips?

(I will be honest, and I hope I'm not offending anyone; I think that super-whitened teeth look weird.)

281 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:32:17pm

re: #276 Emmmieg

I had a feeling it was that way. One of my children comes up with ideas out of his skull. His father and I are patiently working him out of that, explaining that you can't just...make stuff up. You have to go look it up somewhere reputable or have evidence or SOMETHING.

His excuse is that he's pretty young. What's theirs?

"Israel is an apartheid fascist genocidal state." Why do you ask?

282 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:33:15pm

re: #281 SanFranciscoZionist

"Israel is an apartheid fascist genocidal state." Why do you ask?

Oh, no reason. Looks like out of seven words, they got four right.

283 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:33:42pm

And the Cowboys make a "Bears Mistake": Going for it on 4th and goal while down 18 points. Giants biltz and disrupt Kitna's pass. Cowboy turn it over on downs. FAIL

284 Digital Display  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:33:48pm

re: #277 funky chicken

Well...where do you work? Moore has some nice areas because it got, er, excavated by an F-5 that tore through there in the last decade. The traffic is heavier down there than up here, but there's more to do in Norman than Edmond. I would not even consider Piedmont or Yukon, and probably wouldn't look at Mustang either.

Be sure to ask if any house you look at flooded in July when we had a foot of rain in about 2 hours. Lots of places that aren't close to waterways flooded pretty bad. A lot of south Edmond and other places in OKC were under water.

Really? I'm new here..I work across the street from the OU Campus...In the next few months I'll look around for a house here..

285 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:33:49pm

re: #269 Gus 802

Cripes. A bunch of old men stomping on some young woman.

They are some angry people. The woman seems to be very rational and calm about the incident.

286 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:33:55pm

re: #279 brookly red

your really getting pretty silly now.

I'll just wait till the next time you swing your Democratic credentials around your head, and then we'll do this again.

287 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:34:30pm

/ahhh Palidino... even scarier than Palin. Gawd, I wish they made personal carry model.

288 jaunte  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:34:55pm

re: #251 Killgore Trout

What Tea Party violence?

Woman stomped outside Conway-Paul debate (with video)

I usually don't make a big deal out of these incidents, scuffles happen at protests and political events. However this one is pretty bad. Looks like 3-4 men beating up a woman and kicking her on the ground. Pretty ugly.

Rand Paul's campaign delivered an equivalency fail in response:

A spokesman for Rand Paul said,"Violence of any kind has no place in our civil discourse and we urge supporters on all sides to be civil to one another as tensions rise heading toward this very important election."
[Link: liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com...]
289 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:35:13pm

re: #285 Killgore Trout

They are some angry people. The woman seems to be very rational and calm about the incident.

Yeah, that was rather odd. Maybe it's her personality.

290 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:35:21pm

re: #251 Killgore Trout

Dude! I'm no fan of MoveOn, but if that shit indeed happened, it's not even remotely cool.

291 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:35:27pm

re: #249 brookly red

Now that sounds like something a troll would say.

292 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:37:16pm

re: #286 SanFranciscoZionist

I'll just wait till the next time you swing your Democratic credentials around your head, and then we'll do this again.

why do you even care? you live 3000 miles away? what do you care about my local elections? do I ever ask about yours? no, of course I don't.

293 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:37:17pm

re: #288 jaunte

Rand Paul's campaign delivered an equivalency fail in response:

The Magical Balance Fairy!

294 funky chicken  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:37:29pm

re: #284 HoosierHoops

I'd stay in Norman then. Look for something in the Norman North HS district. I think it's the better school so resale would be easier...BRB

295 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:38:02pm

re: #269 Gus 802

Cripes. A bunch of old men stomping on some young woman.

A man who curb stomps a woman is lower than shit, IMO.

296 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:38:51pm

re: #295 Dark_Falcon

A man who curb stomps a woman is lower than shit, IMO.

Yeah. It's that big jerk/dufus on the left.

298 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:39:23pm

re: #292 brookly red

why do you even care? you live 3000 miles away? what do you care about my local elections? do I ever ask about yours? no, of course I don't.

Feel free, any time. Boxer and Brown, here.

Nor, please note, have I ever asked you who you were voting for, that I recall.

299 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:39:29pm

Brookly, are you capable of civil discourse?
Or just name calling.
Civil discourse, is what this blog is founded upon.
It's not my blog, but you might want to try to be civil.
Or not...

300 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:41:41pm

FYI: Juan Williams is on O'Reilly right now. He's running down his list of accomplishments, but not addressing what he said. O'Reilly is also going after Fox News critics.

301 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:41:49pm

Haze grey and underway.

302 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:42:21pm

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

FYI: Juan Williams is on O'Reilly right now. He's running down his list of accomplishments, but not addressing what he said. O'Reilly is also going after Fox News critics.

Is he still sounding desperate?

303 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:43:06pm

re: #299 Floral Giraffe

Brookly, are you capable of civil discourse?
Or just name calling.
Civil discourse, is what this blog is founded upon.
It's not my blog, but you might want to try to be civil.
Or not...

and exactly what name did I call? and where exactly was I un-civil? you are really kinda stretching... are you next gonna ask me when I stopped beating my wife?

304 jaunte  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:44:19pm

Colbert:
"Rupert Murdoch gave Juan Williams a great job at Fox, so he won't have to worry about seeing Muslims again...
...
Unless he goes to a Fox shareholder's' meeting."

305 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:45:25pm

re: #304 jaunte

Colbert:
"Rupert Murdoch gave Juan Williams a great job at Fox, so he won't have to worry about seeing Muslims again...
...
Unless he goes to a Fox shareholder's' meeting."

lol

306 funky chicken  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:46:15pm

re: #284 HoosierHoops

Yeah, Norman North. This is my favorite real estate site...click on the button up top right for homes in the school's zone:

[Link: www.greatschools.org...]

307 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:46:26pm

re: #303 brookly red

You did stop beating your wife?
CONGRATULATIONS!
///
I don't know ANYTHING about you personally.
I'm fine with that, as I bet you are too.
Leave well enough alone.

308 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:49:26pm

ARE YOU READY FOR SOME TEABAGGIN'?!?!?

Youtube Video
309 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:49:35pm

re: #307 Floral Giraffe

You did stop beating your wife?
CONGRATULATIONS!
///
I don't know ANYTHING about you personally.
I'm fine with that, as I bet you are too.
Leave well enough alone.

I will take that as an admission that you have no basis for your accusing me of name calling, or uncivil discourse... that is OK plenty of people read this site.

310 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:51:26pm

ALASKA'S CRAZIEST CATCH

Youtube Video
311 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:51:49pm

here I posted something... don't waste an opportunity to down ding bratwurst... hahhahahah

312 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:52:06pm

re: #309 brookly red

I will take that as an admission that you have no basis for your accusing me of name calling, or uncivil discourse... that is OK plenty of people read this site.

Take it any way you want it.
You have been VERY uncivil, and you know it.
Be well, and have a nice life.

313 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:52:07pm

re: #251 Killgore Trout

What Tea Party violence?

Woman stomped outside Conway-Paul debate (with video)

I usually don't make a big deal out of these incidents, scuffles happen at protests and political events. However this one is pretty bad. Looks like 3-4 men beating up a woman and kicking her on the ground. Pretty ugly.

Holy. Fuckin. Shit. I just watched that video, and there is no doubt about what happened. That's some pretty fucked up shit right there.

314 jaunte  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:52:42pm

More Colbert:
"Can you believe that five years ago you had no idea what to be scared of?"

315 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:53:39pm

re: #302 Gus 802

Is he still sounding desperate?

Yep.

316 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:54:21pm

re: #274 brookly red

That's cool. I'll still disagree with you, but I ain't gonna trade steel with you. Fuck that.

317 jaunte  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:54:43pm

re: #313 Slumbering Behemoth

Rand Paul deplores the mocking woman provoking and forcing those men to regrettably stomp her.

318 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:54:56pm

re: #312 Floral Giraffe

Take it any way you want it.
You have been VERY uncivil, and you know it.
Be well, and have a nice life.

but yet you have no example to refer to... come on, lots of people read this site this is your big chance to show the world how uncivil I am.

319 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:55:23pm

re: #316 Slumbering Behemoth

That's cool. I'll still disagree with you, but I ain't gonna trade steel with you. Fuck that.

this buds for you.

320 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:56:40pm

re: #317 jaunte

Rand Paul deplores the mocking woman provoking and forcing those men to regrettably stomp her.

Aqua Buddha moves in mysterious ways.

321 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:56:52pm

re: #318 brookly red

Brookly, you're trolling again.

322 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:58:00pm

re: #321 Dark_Falcon

Brookly, you're trolling again.

I prefer to call it standing up for my self... you may call it what you wish my friend.

323 bratwurst  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:58:26pm

re: #311 brookly red

here I posted something... don't waste an opportunity to down ding bratwurst... hahhahahah

Image: crybaby.jpg

324 KronoGhazi  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:59:35pm

re: #313 Slumbering Behemoth

That's seriously screwed up. Odds are CJ will have it up tomorrow.

325 Reginald Perrin  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:00:47pm

re: #291 Dark_Falcon

Now that sounds like something a troll would say.

It certainly appears to be troll like behavior.

326 funky chicken  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:01:11pm

re: #284 HoosierHoops

Really? I'm new here..I work across the street from the OU Campus...In the next few months I'll look around for a house here..

Here's a nice house:
[Link: www.realtor.com...]

327 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:02:17pm

re: #317 jaunte

Rand Paul deplores the mocking woman provoking and forcing those men to regrettably stomp her.

It's really not that much of a stretch for an objectively pro rapist candidate.

328 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:02:25pm

re: #318 brookly red

but yet you have no example to refer to... come on, lots of people read this site this is your big chance to show the world how uncivil I am.

downdings, yet no examples... yes it is easy to see what this is. remember lots of folks read this site no just the posters.

329 funky chicken  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:02:35pm

And with that, I'm off for the night. G'night everybody!

330 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:04:16pm

Campaign for Michigan Families attacks House candidate as a lesbian

The Campaign for Michigan Families, a political group run by Gary Glenn of the American Family Association of Michigan, has started blanketing the 99th State House District with robocalls attacking Democratic candidate Toni Sessoms.

During the robocall, Glenn repeatedly uses the word “homosexual” 10 times in the one minute and thirty-six second robocall. Glenn and the Campaign for Michigan Families launched a similar robocall and radio attack program against Garnett Lewis in 2008. Lewis was running as an out lesbian...

Youtube Video
331 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:04:39pm

re: #330 Gus 802

Campaign for Michigan Families attacks House candidate as a lesbian

[Video]

American Family Association = Assholes

332 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:06:04pm

re: #328 brookly red

You can go look for your own examples.
If you want to.
I have better things to do with my time.
Do you?

333 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:06:05pm

re: #275 SanFranciscoZionist

But he is going to perform in Israel for the Arava people, and folks are absolutely flipping out.

"Little by little I understood more how Zionism started. Of course, after the horrible experience of Hitler many people went to Israel. On the other hand, had I known more then, what was going to happen to Jews everywhere, I would consider how to prevent this terrible situation going on right now."

WTF does he mean by this? Sounds like absolute gibberish.

334 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:07:15pm

re: #332 Floral Giraffe

You can go look for your own examples.
If you want to.
I have better things to do with my time.
Do you?

cop out

335 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:08:11pm

re: #330 Gus 802

Campaign for Michigan Families attacks House candidate as a lesbian

[Video]

So, this year's candidate isn't gay, but they still go after the gay angle. FAIL

336 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:08:58pm

Wanna see my pink underwear?

//

337 jaunte  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:09:34pm

re: #331 Gus 802

Houston's mayor, Annise Parker, is gay.
The voters are having as much sex with her as they had with the last mayor.

338 funky chicken  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:09:43pm

re: #284 HoosierHoops

OK, one more house:

[Link: www.realtor.com...]

nice layout, and a pantry in a kitchen on a smallish house like that is nice...

339 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:09:45pm

re: #336 Gus 802

Wanna see my pink underwear?

//

yeah, get jiggy wit it...

340 freetoken  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:09:54pm

re: #335 Dark_Falcon

Are you sure it would be a "FAIL"?

After all, smearing an opponent using false charges is a known, and useful, campaign tactic.

341 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:10:19pm

re: #335 Dark_Falcon

So, this year's candidate isn't gay, but they still go after the gay angle. FAIL

I think she is.

342 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:10:34pm

re: #336 Gus 802

Can you model it for me?
I can't tell how it fits...
LOL!

343 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:10:40pm

re: #333 Alouette

"Little by little I understood more how Zionism started. Of course, after the horrible experience of Hitler many people went to Israel. On the other hand, had I known more then, what was going to happen to Jews everywhere, I would consider how to prevent this terrible situation going on right now."

WTF does he mean by this? Sounds like absolute gibberish.

It's an attempt to to sound sympathetic to Jews while still being anti-Israel.

344 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:11:03pm

re: #340 freetoken

Are you sure it would be a "FAIL"?

After all, smearing an opponent using false charges is a known, and useful, campaign tactic.

heck is that what just happened to me :)

345 Gus  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:12:22pm

re: #337 jaunte

Houston's mayor, Annise Parker, is gay.
The voters are having as much sex with her as they had with the last mayor.

The Republican opponent responded:

AUDIO, VIDEO: Kevin Cotter condemns anti-gay attacks on opponent Toni Sessoms

346 Reginald Perrin  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:12:27pm

If you starve a troll, it goes away

G'night all

347 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:13:44pm

re: #346 Reginald Perrin

If you starve a troll, it goes away

G'night all

seems it just did...

348 freetoken  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:14:21pm

When that "stomping the woman" video story gets on the Foxnation and other wingnut sites the comments are going to be quite salacious, I suspect.

349 Reginald Perrin  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:15:10pm

re: #347 brookly red

seems it just did...

Trolls project a lot....you give yourself away.

350 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:16:42pm

Oh just to mention the topic In hand rather than at hand-
Fall Release Beer Review
Sierra Nevada Tumbler

Excellent Brown Ale 5% range alch. Deep color, slightly understated hops. Really well balanced.

351 jaunte  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:16:46pm

Pharyngula:


Drinking bleach is good for you?

I haven't heard much about Rhys Morgan in the US (if you follow Ben Goldacre, though, you know all about him), but he won an award at TAM London for his skeptical work, so I thought I should do my part to spread the news. Simply put, he was participating in a forum on Crohn's Disease and boldly took on peddlers of evil woo: they were selling some crap called Miracle Mineral Solution, which is nothing but bleach.
[Link: scienceblogs.com...]
352 freetoken  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:18:34pm

re: #351 jaunte

The Snake Oil business - it'll be around longer than the Geologic Oil business.

353 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:19:06pm

re: #349 Reginald Perrin

Trolls project a lot...you give yourself away.

Oh, I guess you found a reason for living, to call someone a troll so you can feel like you belong...glad to be of service.

354 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:19:06pm

re: #340 freetoken

Are you sure it would be a "FAIL"?

After all, smearing an opponent using false charges is a known, and useful, campaign tactic.

Point taken.

355 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:20:51pm

re: #348 freetoken

When that "stomping the woman" video story gets on the Foxnation and other wingnut sites the comments are going to be quite salacious, I suspect.

If FOX is smart, they'll close comments on the article.

356 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:21:54pm

re: #346 Reginald Perrin

If you starve a troll, it goes away

G'night all

Sleep tight, Dear Sir!

357 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:22:50pm

re: #350 Rightwingconspirator

Oh just to mention the topic In hand rather than at hand-
Fall Release Beer Review
Sierra Nevada Tumbler

Excellent Brown Ale 5% range alch. Deep color, slightly understated hops. Really well balanced.

Have another one for me!
*waves*

358 freetoken  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:23:44pm

Speaking of science, there was some good news in the field of Paleontology recently:

Encased in Amber, a Trove of New Species

And yet, on this story like so many others that covers topics from science, there is a heap of poor science reporting. The NYT article is pretty good (as is most of their science articles), but there are some real doozies out there, such as this one from The Independent:


Frozen in time, 50 million years ago

A collection of beautifully preserved bees, ants, spiders and other small prehistoric creatures that lived 50 million years ago have been unearthed in a huge amber deposit in India.

Scientists said that the fossilised globules of tree resin have entombed a spectacular menagerie of insects that had survived the extinction of the dinosaurs and were living at a time before mammals had evolved.

[...]

Science FAIL!

That Independent article has some other idiotic statements too.

Over and over we see how ignorance in a field really trips up those who write about a technical subject. Sad thing is - there is not market (money) to pay to hire specialists in the media.

359 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:25:14pm

re: #309 brookly red

re: #312 Floral Giraffe

I take off for one night to roady for my wife's steel drum band, and two of my favorite Lizards start throwing spitballs at each other. Don't make me come up those stairs.

360 freetoken  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:25:49pm

re: #355 Dark_Falcon

If FOX is smart, they'll close comments on the article.

Quite the contrary - FoxNation exists to market to the wingnuts. I've stopped covering that Murdoch hate site but some months ago I used to post articles+comments from FoxNation here to try and make the case that Murdoch does indeed have no trouble marketing hate.

361 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:27:46pm

re: #359 Decatur Deb

Throws eraser from the back corner.
*HEH*

362 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:32:04pm

re: #333 Alouette

"Little by little I understood more how Zionism started. Of course, after the horrible experience of Hitler many people went to Israel. On the other hand, had I known more then, what was going to happen to Jews everywhere, I would consider how to prevent this terrible situation going on right now."

WTF does he mean by this? Sounds like absolute gibberish.

Is that Seeger? God knows.

And of course, it's all about Hitler. Most of these folks have absolutely no clue about the expulsion from the Arab countries, and they can't deal with it, because it screws up the careful balance they have in their heads.

363 freetoken  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:35:01pm

BTW, there was some other big news in the Old Bones field today:


Oldest Modern Human Outside of Africa Found

Interesting research and if upheld makes for a good case for an early out-migration of H. sapiens from Africa (there would have been other migrations later), as well as supporting the idea that we interbred with our closest cousins.

364 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:36:16pm

re: #362 SanFranciscoZionist

Is that Seeger? God knows.

And of course, it's all about Hitler. Most of these folks have absolutely no clue about the expulsion from the Arab countries, and they can't deal with it, because it screws up the careful balance they have in their heads.

If they can't be 'even-handed', they go into a loop. In part because they don't want to make enemies, and if you side with Israel you make enemies pretty quick.

365 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:42:23pm

'Nite, all.

366 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:42:29pm

re: #363 freetoken

BTW, there was some other big news in the Old Bones field today:

Oldest Modern Human Outside of Africa Found

Interesting research and if upheld makes for a good case for an early out-migration of H. sapiens from Africa (there would have been other migrations later), as well as supporting the idea that we interbred with our closest cousins.

Ooh, there's a yummy bit of science. Thank you for this post.

367 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:47:29pm

re: #359 Decatur Deb

re: #312 Floral Giraffe

I take off for one night to roady for my wife's steel drum band, and two of my favorite Lizards start throwing spitballs at each other. Don't make me come up those stairs.

I think you mean down those stairs...

368 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:47:59pm

re: #361 Floral Giraffe

Throws eraser from the back corner.
*HEH*

Once upon a time.
I was just a child.
Took drafting class in High School.
The only girl.
Teacher was/is a DOLL!
Got me into the back corner.
Yes, you're a target.
But, the corner collects for you.
And, to this day, I have GREAT eye/hand coordination.
And, did inflict some pain.
Well, enough to got left alone.

Do, please, have at it!
LOL!
He taught shop, the class after drafting
Ed Bowen was his name.
He protected me, by not protecting me.
It was 30 years ago, so once, upon a time, in a land far, far away.

369 brookly red  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:51:03pm

re: #363 freetoken

BTW, there was some other big news in the Old Bones field today:

Oldest Modern Human Outside of Africa Found

that's why I am for term limits... juss sayin

370 ClaudeMonet  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:55:49pm

re: #62 jamesfirecat

And once again I thank you for that.

Things are likely only to get crazier and crazier until the 20% or so of moderate Republicans who are still out there abandon the party thus making it stastically impossible for them to win presidential elections.

When one party is the only one that can win, who knows what that one party is going to present as its choice--and by extension ours?

One of the great checks and balances we have is that if/when one party f***s up, the voters can throw them out and try the other party.

371 ClaudeMonet  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 9:59:34pm

re: #91 HoosierHoops

I'm not voting next Tuesday.. I have only lived in Oklahoma for 30 days..
I'm still not sure who the biggest idiots are running here yet...The ads are viscous though..

I think you meant "vicious" rather than "viscous". OTOH, in a state whose economy is so dependent on oil, you may have been right inadvertently.

As for who the biggest idiots are in Oklahoma, dang, that's a tough call. So many possibilities.

372 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:09:36pm

re: #330 Gus 802

OMG! HOMO'S ARE TRYING TO STEAL MY PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS!
/wait, what?

373 Linden Arden  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:13:53pm

re: #372 Slumbering Behemoth

OMG! HOMO'S ARE TRYING TO STEAL MY PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS!
/wait, what?

Close yer holes!

374 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:16:41pm

Goodnight, all.

375 sngnsgt  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:19:14pm

Way OT but I want to brag about an event my Father witnessed today, he volunteered as a marshal for the Justin Timberlake Shriners Hospitals for Children Open and is holding the orange sign:

Youtube Video
376 Irenicum  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:19:25pm

Hey kids. It seems we're at risk of having our bodily fluids invaded. Glad Homer has been homie.

377 freetoken  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:19:47pm

re: #374 Dark_Falcon

Goodnight, all.

MP3 Audio
378 Irenicum  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:19:55pm

re: #375 sngnsgt

Did he see the Byrd shot?

379 Linden Arden  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:20:39pm

re: #376 Irenicum

Hey kids. It seems we're at risk of having our bodily fluids invaded. Glad Homer has been homie.

They're after me bile duct!

380 sngnsgt  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:21:01pm

re: #378 Irenicum

Did he see the Byrd shot?

He's holding the orange sign right behind Byrd.

381 Irenicum  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:22:54pm

re: #379 Linden Arden

Getttin' me the glue I need to protect me orifices....

382 Linden Arden  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:25:34pm

re: #381 Irenicum

Getttin' me the glue I need to protect me orifices...

Trim advice! Luckily the crowd disperses before my worst is afront.

383 Irenicum  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:26:54pm

re: #380 sngnsgt

Caw caw!

384 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:28:09pm

re: #374 Dark_Falcon

Goodnight, all.

'night DF.

This one is for you and the voters of Illinois... ;)

Youtube Video
385 freetoken  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:28:57pm

Speaking of orifices, the important news of the day:


Health advocates, porn industry representatives debate workplace protection

Public health advocates, porn industry representatives and performers past and present gathered in Oakland on Monday to discuss workplace protection law and whether a more tailored regulation specifically requiring condom use on adult film sets is necessary.

[...]

A petition filed by the AIDS Healthcare Foundation late last year asked Cal/OSHA asking the agency to amend its regulations to directly require condom use during vaginal and anal sex in the adult film industry.

Current law regarding blood-borne pathogens applies across industries and was crafted in the 1990s for healthcare workers. Though it does require employers to take protective measures — including "barrier protection" — a Los Angeles-area porn performer's recent positive HIV test has intensified the debate on the need for a more tailored law and stricter enforcement in the lucrative industry.

Condom use is common in gay pornography but rare among companies shooting porn for straight audiences.

[...]


LIBRULS ARE DESTROYING CAPITALISM WITH RED TAPE!!

BIG GOVERNMENT IS DESTROYING PR0N!!

386 Irenicum  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:28:59pm

For some reason I'm struck by reading "Once Upon A Midnight Dreary."

387 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:29:34pm

I'm so far behind on this thread, I'm just gonna link some music.

If you've ever wondered how much "bad-ass-ness" could be squeezed outta just two skinny musicians, here's your answer.

388 ClaudeMonet  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:34:26pm

re: #257 HoosierHoops

I'm looking at houses in More..What do you think?

I think you should spell it "Moore", which in my time was kind of a meh bedroom community for both OKC and Norman. You could get a lot of real estate and house for your money there IIRC.

re: #277 funky chicken

Well...where do you work? Moore has some nice areas because it got, er, excavated by an F-5 that tore through there in the last decade. The traffic is heavier down there than up here, but there's more to do in Norman than Edmond. I would not even consider Piedmont or Yukon, and probably wouldn't look at Mustang either.

Be sure to ask if any house you look at flooded in July when we had a foot of rain in about 2 hours. Lots of places that aren't close to waterways flooded pretty bad. A lot of south Edmond and other places in OKC were under water.

If I'm working in Norman, I consider it, Moore, and maybe south OKC. Everything else would be too far away for my comfort.

Hoops, one thing you may not have experienced yet is the full effect of a big T-storm down there. Since the ground is mostly clay, it doesn't absorb water worth a darn, and the copious amounts that fall in a very short time have to go SOMEWHERE. Part of your due diligence when buying a home there has to be consideration of the drainage pattern of the land in which you have an interest. The categories are Good, Improvable, and Forget It.

The two biggest mistakes I made when I moved there (other than moving there itself)--one, not getting cloth seats for my car to replace the vinyl ones my car had when I bought it two years earlier; and two, living in an apartment building with a flat roof. Something about getting water through the walls when one is on the first floor of a two-floor building, and watching the thermostat in the living room fill with water.

389 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:36:12pm

re: #385 freetoken

Hmm...

390 sngnsgt  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:37:23pm

re: #383 Irenicum

Not that kinda Byrd silly! /

391 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:39:13pm

re: #386 Irenicum

That's just the sort of thing that will happen if you find yourself pondering things in a state of weakness and/or weariness.

Just sayin'.

392 Irenicum  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:45:25pm

re: #391 Slumbering Behemoth

A craven instinct I'm sure.

393 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 10:51:34pm

re: #392 Irenicum

Ya can't hate, though.

In some cases, that's the only stock folks can keep in their store.

394 sngnsgt  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 11:06:08pm

The New York Times Torture Euphemism Generator!

www.boingboing.net

395 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 11:24:15pm

Not quiet there yet, gotta do it. BBL

396 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Oct 25, 2010 11:52:52pm

Not much going on here right now for the occasional insomniac, so violent video games it is. Laters y'all.

re: #392 Irenicum

Err... Evermore?

397 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 12:25:58am

A Frank Zappa song For Ron Paul supporters, especially around 2:40

Youtube Video

Speakin' atcha.

398 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 12:31:15am

re: #386 Irenicum

For some reason I'm struck by reading "Once Upon A Midnight Dreary."

That fair and radiant maiden, after whom the Germans named a fabric conditioner!

[Link: www.hygi.de...]

399 Summer Seale  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 12:58:31am

End of an old era: (well, old for some of us! =) )

Sony retires the Walkman

400 boxhead  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 1:02:19am

Back to the topic at hand, what did Obama say that is an incitement to race relations? Am I living in a media cocoon that I don't see it? I hesitate to state my other potential reason segments of our Great Nation think this way. It is a sad prospect.

401 Summer Seale  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 1:05:07am

re: #400 boxhead

I didn't see it either, but I live in France now and I also haven't read the news when I woke up late today for work. =P I'll catch up with it later though.

My guess tho is: nothing.

402 freetoken  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 1:06:17am

re: #399 Summer

End of an old era: (well, old for some of us! =) )

Sony retires the Walkman

Sigh... I feel old...

Back when I was in school the big thing was the 8-track tape.

403 Summer Seale  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 1:09:25am

re: #400 boxhead

You'd also think, from the right wing, that Obama dresses up in Black Panther uniforms on TV, gives the raised fist salute, and starts expounding on "Black Power" in interviews galore. I have no idea what they see on TV or read in the newspapers when he talks, but I've yet to see Obama walk around like any sort of revolutionary whatsoever - of any stripe or color.

The guy is a tame intellectual. That's why the right looks so frigging crazy: they seem to see crap everywhere around them, threatening to kill them, urging the rest of us to see as well when all there is to see is....nothing.

404 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 1:25:14am

I think that the logic here is that in "post-racial America", one should be allowed to make racist slurs with impunity and not be taken to task over it.

405 boxhead  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 1:42:20am

re: #403 Summer

Right.. I read what Obama's critics say, and I just don't see it. I see a young politician who is doing what politicians do. I think he cares, but I really don't know cause I would need to talk to him personally to even begin to get a clue. But I hear from people I respect that he is (insert Faux talking point). I try to ask why carefully, but my words are impotent. Has anyone here had any success in this endeavor? If so how?

406 boxhead  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 1:48:16am

re: #404 ralphieboy

I think that the logic here is that in "post-racial America", one should be allowed to make racist slurs with impunity and not be taken to task over it.

Negative racial beliefs are part of the human condition. Or more accurately, distrust of one's "tribe" is part of the human condition. In most places in the world, it boils down to ethnicity. Melting pot tribes are phobic of others for different reasons. That is our animal instincts. I believe we are and should be better.

Free beer for who comes up with the how... :)

407 boxhead  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 1:49:59am

re: #406 boxhead

Negative racial beliefs are part of the human condition. Or more accurately, distrust of one's "tribe" is part of the human condition. In most places in the world, it boils down to ethnicity. Melting pot tribes are phobic of others for different reasons. That is our animal instincts. I believe we are and should be better.

Free beer for who comes up with the how... :)

arrr distrust of someone not in your tribe is part of the human condition... :)

408 boxhead  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 1:57:39am

It always seems that my free time to post here is a bit too late for other folks.. Either that or I need to shower before I post... :)

409 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 1:58:46am

re: #406 boxhead

The Human Condition: we react to visual signals, and those who look "different" evoke our suspicion.

The point is not to let these reactions lead us to deny others their rights and due respect.

410 freetoken  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 1:59:22am

re: #408 boxhead

This is the quiet time of the day at LGF ...

MP3 Audio
411 boxhead  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 2:04:46am

re: #409 ralphieboy

The Human Condition: we react to visual signals, and those who look "different" evoke our suspicion.

The point is not to let these reactions lead us to deny others their rights and due respect.

Absolutely, but what am I, (are we), doing wrong? I see this as plain as day. For full disclosure, I am the wonderful product of a mixed marriage, Hawaii and Germany. I am willing to except that is a reason why I think the way I do and others don't. That is also a disconcerting reason.

412 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 2:09:22am

re: #411 boxhead

Absolutely, but what am I, (are we), doing wrong? I see this as plain as day. For full disclosure, I am the wonderful product of a mixed marriage, Hawaii and Germany. I am willing to except that is a reason why I think the way I do and others don't. That is also a disconcerting reason.

We need a conscious and ongoing effort to recognize this trait and counteract our unfortunate tendency to demonize and discriminate against others who look different.

Funny, it seems that conservatives should be fine with the notion of a half-black president from non-priveleged origins. It disproves the claims of those who say they cannot succeed in "white man's America".

413 boxhead  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 2:16:54am

re: #412 ralphieboy

We need a conscious and ongoing effort to recognize this trait and counteract our unfortunate tendency to demonize and discriminate against others who look different.


How? I try on an individual effort with good hearted people. Most act as if they have a mental block.

Funny, it seems that conservatives should be fine with the notion of a half-black president from non-priveleged origins. It disproves the claims of those who say they cannot succeed in "white man's America".


Right after Obama won, I know of many that did. Then the drum beat by folks/power with, what I think is anti USA agendas, started their work.

414 boxhead  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 2:20:55am

re: #410 freetoken

This is the quiet time of the day at LGF ...


[Video]

nice piece... reminds me of dawn near a small river feeding a lake.

415 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 2:26:20am

re: #413 boxhead

How? Right after Obama won, I know of many that did. Then the drum beat by folks/power with, what I think is anti USA agendas, started their work.

But then The Fear got hold of them.

The same Fear I saw on my block in Gary, Indiana when the first black family moved in, which lead to panic, and to a mass sellout.

The real estate company did well on that, they turned almost the whole block over in less than a year.

416 freetoken  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 2:27:27am

re: #414 boxhead

It's one of the warhorses of classical music... overplayed, but still appropriate for this time of night.

Many years ago I remember listening to an overnight classical music program that played nationally on public radio - this was at least 30 years ago - that used that piece (Sicilienne) as the show's theme song.

Faure is the composer of note for these types of pieces:

MP3 Audio
417 boxhead  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 2:29:35am

re: #415 ralphieboy

But then The Fear got hold of them.

The same Fear I saw on my block in Gary, Indiana when the first black family moved in, which lead to panic, and to a mass sellout.

The real estate company did well on that, they turned almost the whole block over in less than a year.

sigh..... I really did not want to go there, but I guess it is what it is... I consider myself lucky to have grown up without that fear.

night ralphieboy... sleep calls

419 ozbloke  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 3:00:26am

Saddam aide Aziz sentenced to death

Iraq's supreme criminal court has ordered the execution of former deputy prime minister Tariq Aziz, the long-time international face of the Saddam Hussein regime.

420 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 3:28:38am

re: #418 WindUpBird

Guys, you can't hide forever. This is not work safe.


You cannot hide.


Forever

Hey, Juan?
This is something that every rational person should be scared of;
Pixelated toys with dildos and creepy expressions.

421 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 4:36:20am

re: #420 Varek Raith

Hey, Juan?
This is something that every rational person should be scared of;
Pixelated toys with dildos and creepy expressions.

I told my therapist that I was scared of leering, pixelated toys wielding dildos. She withdrew into the fetal position and started crying uncontrollably. All she would say was "I didn't mean to" over and over. No idea what that meant. I left a $10 on the table and left without making eye contact.

422 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 4:54:01am

Tom DeLay's money laundering trial to begin

(CNN) -- Jury selection is scheduled to begin Tuesday in the trial of former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, who is charged with illegally funneling corporate money to help elect GOP candidates to the Texas legislature.

The Republican was indicted in 2005 on charges he illegally sent $190,000 in corporate money through the Republican National Committee to help elect GOP Texas legislative candidates in 2002.

DeLay, who resigned in 2006, has pleaded not guilty to money laundering and conspiracy. He has said the trial will clear him.

His attorney, Dick DeGuerin, told CNN in August that the case was "highly political" and should have been heard in DeLay's home county of Fort Bend. He said the case against his client began over congressional redistricting that gave Republicans control.

DeGuerin had wanted the trial moved to another jurisdiction, arguing that "heavily Democratic" Travis County has a "strong anti-Tom DeLay feeling."

But Senior Judge Pat Priest ruled in August that Delay will get a fair trial in Austin.

"He's finally going to get a trial. He's literally been begging for five years," said DeGuerin, adding the evidence "will show he [DeLay] didn't do anything."

Two other men facing charges in the case will be tried later.

Over the summer, DeLay said a separate, long-running federal criminal investigation of him had been closed with no charges. The Justice Department declined comment on the federal investigation.

DeLay was under investigation for his ties to lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who pleaded guilty in 2006 to fraud, tax evasion and conspiracy to bribe public officials. Abramoff admitted defrauding Native American tribal clients of millions of dollars for help in gaining casino licenses.

DeLay said he had informed Abramoff that "our relationship is over" when he learned of Abramoff's plans for casinos aboard cruise ships. He also told reporters that during a visit to a casino on a Choctaw reservation he was disgusted when he saw a long line of baby carriages lined up while parents were gambling at 11:30 p.m.

423 bratwurst  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 4:55:17am

re: #422 Varek Raith

Tom DeLay's money laundering trial to begin

Hammer, meet gavel...gavel, hammer.

424 Taqyia2Me  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 5:03:54am

re: #422 Varek Raith

Is this the one where the local DA or State's Atty had to grand jury shop for like three separate grand juries before he could find a jury willing to indict DeLay?

425 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 5:13:28am

re: #422 Varek Raith

Part of the reason for this:

The United States has dropped out of the "top 20" in a global league table of least corrupt nations, tarnished by financial scandals and the influence of money in politics, Transparency International said on Tuesday

And we can expect corruption to increase as the Citizen's United ruling is exploited.

426 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 5:21:06am

re: #425 Obdicut

[Link: www.transparency.org...]
Most interesting.

427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 5:34:49am

re: #426 Varek Raith
Could be worse, could be Angola...

428 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 5:36:26am
And Even STILL I Am Not Allowed To Make A Racial Slur About Our President? After THIS? AYFKM!?!?!?

No, Dave, you can't.
Fucking bigot.

429 garhighway  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 5:43:04am

re: #424 Taqyia2Me

Is this the one where the local DA or State's Atty had to grand jury shop for like three separate grand juries before he could find a jury willing to indict DeLay?

I've been looking for a link to cast some light on this and can't find one. Can you help?

430 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 5:47:56am

The Joe E. Brown baseball trilogy is on TCM...
Just watched "Elmer the Great" and "Alibi Ike".

They're the same freakin' movies!

Okay... "Well, nobody's perfect."
-Osgood Fielding, III

431 Ayeless in Ghazi  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 5:51:35am

re: #428 Varek Raith

No, Dave, you can't.
Fucking bigot.

This creep thinks that a reference to the past history of racism by white people against blacks somehow justifies calling the President a n****r, but he can't because of political correctness.

He is absolutely seething with racism.

432 Winny Spencer  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 6:01:30am

Speaking of bigotry and fear-mongering, here is Sharron Angle's latest "scary brown people"-ad:

Youtube Video
433 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 6:02:00am

re: #432 Winny Spencer

Those Asian gang members are very intimidating.

//

434 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 6:03:23am

re: #433 Obdicut

Those Asian gang members are very intimidating.

//

Asians, Latinos, yall look the same!
/Sharron Angle

435 Ayeless in Ghazi  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 6:09:54am

George Soros speaks out in favour of legal marijuana:

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

436 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 6:10:46am

re: #435 Jimmah

George Soros speaks out in favour of legal marijuana:

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

pro-immigrant plant-hugger liberal!

//

437 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 6:11:11am

re: #434 Varek Raith

Asians, Latinos, Autistics, yall look the same!
/Sharron Angle

438 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 6:22:49am

re: #437 rwdflynavy

What are ya, some kind of monkey/mouse hybrid with a human brain?!

439 Jadespring  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 6:29:55am

Morning all.

Won't be here long. I'm being a geek today and playing a game. I liked to first one so much I bought the second one yesterday. :)

440 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 6:32:37am

re: #388 ClaudeMonet

Seeing your post, a fair number of us are around Norman and OKC. How many live in the area?

441 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 6:48:53am

For anyone who hasn't seen it:

Walken dances.

Youtube Video
442 iossarian  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 6:55:43am

re: #441 Obdicut

Hah! One of my favorite music videos of all time!

I can take or leave Fatboy Slim to listen to, but this and "You've Come A Long Way Baby" are really up there when you add the video element.

443 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 6:58:07am

re: #441 Obdicut

I pity the fool who hasn't seen this video.
:)

444 funky chicken  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 7:11:40am

re: #433 Obdicut

Those Asian gang members are very intimidating.

//

Las Vegas has some very scary Asian gangs, to tell the truth. I wouldn't want to be caught between them and the MS-13 (or whatever they're called) fellas.

445 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 7:12:49am

re: #443 Varek Raith

I pity the fool who hasn't seen this video.
:)

Mister T, is that you??

446 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 7:13:55am

re: #444 funky chicken

Las Vegas has some very scary Asian gangs, to tell the truth. I wouldn't want to be caught between them and the MS-13 (or whatever they're called) fellas.

Boston had one years ago (the name escapes me now).

very nasty,,, very scary!

447 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 7:14:03am

re: #444 funky chicken

Yeah, I'm from San Francisco. The Asian gangs are serious shit. Especially the grown-up Vietnamese war orphans.

448 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 7:16:52am

re: #445 sattv4u2

Mister T, is that you??

NIGHT ELF MOHAWK!

Youtube Video
449 Michael Orion Powell  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 7:28:08am
day by day and speech by speech, this President has done more damage to race relations than any combination of Presidents since Lyndon Johnson…and he, at least, tried to make things better with a sincere heart.

These guys are obviously living on another planet. Since his inauguration, Obama has avoided talking directly about race like the plague. The ones inserting race into everything are Red State, Fox News, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin and their supporters.

450 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 7:29:55am

re: #449 OrionXP

These guys are obviously living on another planet. Since his inauguration, Obama has avoided talking directly about race like the plague. The ones inserting race into everything are Red State, Fox News, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin and their supporters.

I think we need another beer summit.

Good morning lizards!

451 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 7:31:01am

re: #450 NJDhockeyfan

I think we need another beer summit.

Good morning lizards!

The president acted "stupidly".

452 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 7:38:41am

re: #449 OrionXP

Don't forget Limbaugh, the untouchable man of the GOP.

His race-baiting has gotten just plain nasty.

453 Taqyia2Me  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 7:38:44am

re: #429 garhighway

I found some results by doing a google search on 'Tom DeLay grand jury shopping' but will do more research and advise in the pages after I get home from work.

454 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 7:42:26am

About 50 Rhode Islanders spent $7,500 a plate for a dinner with the president fundraiser. One problem, the president didn't eat with them.

Obama speaks at Chace house, skips lobster, steak

President Obama's final stop was a $7,500-a-head fundraiser in the well-appointed home of Arnold "Buff" and Johnnie Chace on the East Side, not far from Brown University.

The president spoke for about 20 minutes, then left before the dinner of locally grown foods by celebrated Rhode Island chefs -- including lobster risotto -- that Mrs. Chace had planned.

Fewer than 50 were in attendance, according to Eric Hyers, campaign manager for Providence Mayor David N. Cicilline, the Democratic candidate for the House seat being vacated by Rep. Patrick J. Kennedy.

...Mr. Obama concluded his remarks at about 7:30, saying he couldn't stay for dinner.

"I've got to go home to tuck in the girls and walk the dog and scoop the poop," he said.

Ouch.

455 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 7:44:29am

re: #400 boxhead

Back to the topic at hand, what did Obama say that is an incitement to race relations? Am I living in a media cocoon that I don't see it? I hesitate to state my other potential reason segments of our Great Nation think this way. It is a sad prospect.

He is constantly inciting. Usually statements like: "As your President, I...".

456 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 7:52:58am

Talk about scary gangs!
[Link: www.boston.com...]

Armed men burst into a drug rehab center in the border city of Tijuana, killing 13 people

It was the second massacre of the weekend in Mexico: 14 people were killed Friday night when gunmen stormed a birthday party in another border city, Ciudad Juarez

457 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 7:59:17am

Dennis Kucinich Says Latest Abduction By Aliens Confirms They'd Vote for Obama If Granted Immunity!

Dennis Kucinich, the 14 year Ohio Democratic Congressman who claims he has had more than one close encounter with Aliens, said his latest conference with intergalactic visitors was just last weekend during a camping trip!

Kucinich who first reported he was abducted while sleeping as a penniless politician on the couch of Shirley Maclaine somewhere out west after he was not re elected as Detroit Mayor in 1979 , said that the aliens were still trying to make inroads into US culture and as recently as last Friday had donated over $600M to the Mid Term Elections, over 99% of which went to democrats, 'and I don't want to hear on Fox any Shit about Foreign Investors buying the election," a florid Kucinich exclaimed excitedly. "Aliens are people too, and should be treated with respect!"

Dennis the Menace, currently weighing in at 99 pounds on a sparse 4'9" frame, says his recent interaction only confirmed what he believed all along...Aliens are on the side of Barry Obama.

"Barry has an other worldly persona, and this is recognized by the space travelers who stand solidly behind his ambition to recognize all aliens, whether they come from Ur-Anus, Mars, Tijuana or Caracas," said the slightly buzzed Kucinich in a spacey interview on Business Today with Neil Cavuto on Fox.

"All they want is the right to vote,' said Dennis, " inAlienable rights to start a business, be paid a living wage, get universal health care and a reasonable housing allowance. Is that too much to ask? And kids...they want to adopt..being asexual they can't reproduce but are just dying to have a family, one like Angelina Jolie!"

"Are you telling me, " said an incredulous Cavuto, "that Aliens are incapable of having SEX? Well, the jokes on them, if they can't have SEX, then Obama can't SCREW them...I'm afraid they're just going to have to go somewhere else to look for Sanctuary....I hear the UK has a few nice soccer fields just waiting for some Travelers to settle in....and the benefits aren't bad either!"

458 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:02:39am

re: #457 NJDhockeyfan

Boy, that was labored.

459 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:03:21am

re: #457 NJDhockeyfan

Kucinich is just trying to garner the Art Bell voter block!

460 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:06:46am

re: #459 sattv4u2

Kucinich is just trying to garner the Art Bell voter block!

I heard chem trails work!
//

461 iossarian  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:12:25am

re: #454 NJDhockeyfan

I note the news staff was unable to find a dinner attendee who was moved to complain about the President's schedule and priorities.

462 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:13:24am

re: #457 NJDhockeyfan

Wouldn't it be fucking hilarious if he was right?!
XD

463 iossarian  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:13:46am

re: #457 NJDhockeyfan

Kucinich was mayor of Cleveland, not Detroit.

464 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:14:20am

Just what Harry Reid needs, more bad press a week before the election.

Harry Reid aide fired in immigration flap

An aide to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has been dismissed after reports she lied to federal authorities about her marriage to a Lebanese national.

Reid’s press secretary who dealt with Hispanic media, Diana Tejada, has admitted to the federal officials that she married Bassam Mahmoud Tarhini in 2003 in exchange for payments for “some of her expenses,” according to a spokesman for the U.S. attorney’s office in the Western District of Oklahoma that prosecuted the case.

465 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:15:14am

re: #463 iossarian

Kucinich was mayor of Cleveland, not Detroit.

Psssst...it's satire ;)

466 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:15:21am

re: #463 iossarian

The guy who wrote that doesn't give a shit for your fancy 'accuracy', or 'punctuation', or 'proper capitalization'. That's for them fancy egg-head types.

467 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:15:29am

re: #461 iossarian

I note the news staff was unable to find a dinner attendee who was moved to complain about the President's schedule and priorities.

Maybe they were too busy trying to fit the words
SEVEN THOUSAND AND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS on the checks!

468 iossarian  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:16:22am

re: #465 NJDhockeyfan

I know, I know. Still, comedy works better if the underlying details are correct.

I thought the piece was funny-ish, could have been tightened up a bit though.

469 iossarian  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:17:20am

re: #467 sattv4u2

Maybe they were too busy trying to fit the words
SEVEN THOUSAND AND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS on the checks!

I wonder if the amount is enough to balance out the President's "cheapness" on the Vegas lottery offer?

"What say you", Walter? Are you there?

470 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:17:51am

re: #468 iossarian

Kucinich is about the easiest target in the world, and that dude flubbed it. That's an achievement in and of itself.

471 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:18:39am

re: #469 iossarian

"What say you", Walter? Are you there?

Let SHOW USERS be your friend!

472 iossarian  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:18:54am

re: #470 Obdicut

I'm amazed he didn't work in the six-foot glamazon wife angle.

(No, not that Angle.)

473 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:20:04am

re: #470 Obdicut

Kucinich is about the easiest target in the world, and that dude flubbed it. That's an achievement in and of itself.

C'mon, it was still funny. It's always fun to read a Kucinich-UFO joke.

474 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:21:08am

re: #473 NJDhockeyfan

C'mon, it was still funny. It's always fun to read a Kucinich-UFO joke.

You know, it's okay when other people don't find the same stuff funny as you do. Dennis-the-menace references and "haw, he's short!" doesn't really do it for me.

475 iossarian  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:21:26am

re: #473 NJDhockeyfan

C'mon, it was still funny. It's always fun to read a Kucinich-UFO joke.

I would give it a CTMS (Chuckle To MySelf) rather than a LOL.

476 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:25:05am

Another Democrat staffer fired, this time in Florida...

Aide fired over Florida debate foul

Alex Sink’s campaign violated rules Monday evening at the CNN/St. Petersburg Times Florida gubernatorial debate when her make-up artist delivered a message during a television break.

Sink, the Democratic nominee, was shown a two-sentence message on a cell phone that offered her advice during the debate. Republican nominee Rick Scott who was sitting next to her in this nationally televised debate, noticed the violation and notified a CNN official, who approached the make-up artist and Sink and confiscated the cell phone.

The message read: “The attorney who [w]on the Sykes suit said alex sink did nothing wrong. Tell not to let him keep talking about her.”

After the debate, the Sink campaign released a statement from the candidate announcing that the advisor who sent the message has been removed from the campaign. The advisor was not named in the statement, but a campaign spokesman confirmed it is Brian May, who signed the rules agreement before the debate on behalf of the Sink campaign.

477 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:26:20am

re: #472 iossarian

I'm amazed he didn't work in the six-foot glamazon wife angle.

(No, not that Angle.)

re: #474 Obdicut

You know, it's okay when other people don't find the same stuff funny as you do. Dennis-the-menace references and "haw, he's short!" doesn't really do it for me.

Well,, as they say, he DID outpunt his coverage

[Link: www.mikhaela.net...]

478 lostlakehiker  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:27:53am

re: #425 Obdicut

Part of the reason for this:

The United States has dropped out of the "top 20" in a global league table of least corrupt nations, tarnished by financial scandals and the influence of money in politics, Transparency International said on Tuesday

And we can expect corruption to increase as the Citizen's United ruling is exploited.

So we go from Clinton, to Bush, to Obama, and the corruption level keeps increasing, and the Citizen's United ruling gets the blame?

There are semi-permanent factors in play. Chief among them is that when government and its favors become economically more decisive, people work less to build something or do something useful, which pays less, and work more to gain favor, which pays more.

479 garhighway  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:34:33am

re: #458 Obdicut

Boy, that was labored.

He hit the wrong keys. He meant to post that to World Net Daily.

480 iossarian  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:36:00am

Amusing that Democrats firing staffers when they discover that they have ethical problems is somehow great news from Republicans.

I guess you work with what you've got.

481 iossarian  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:38:53am

re: #478 lostlakehiker


There are semi-permanent factors in play. Chief among them is that when government and its favors become economically more decisive, people work less to build something or do something useful, which pays less, and work more to gain favor, which pays more.

Obviously the solution is to repeal Civil Rights legislation. /

482 garhighway  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:40:19am

re: #478 lostlakehiker


There are semi-permanent factors in play. Chief among them is that when government and its favors become economically more decisive, people work less to build something or do something useful, which pays less, and work more to gain favor, which pays more.

Interesting theory. Does any data support it?

483 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:40:55am

re: #480 iossarian

Amusing that Democrats firing staffers when they discover that they have ethical problems is somehow great news from Republicans.

I guess you work with what you've got.

I thought the "Culture of Corruption" was supposed to be eradicated BEFORE it manifested itself!

484 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:41:47am

re: #478 lostlakehiker

So we go from Clinton, to Bush, to Obama, and the corruption level keeps increasing, and the Citizen's United ruling gets the blame?

You didn't read what I wrote, apparently.

I wrote about the future. I didn't blame this rise on Citizen's United.

Seriously, dude.

485 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:41:59am

re: #478 lostlakehiker

...snip
There are semi-permanent factors in play. Chief among them is that when government and its favors become economically more decisive, people work less to build something or do something useful, which pays less, and work more to gain favor, which pays more.

Statement is a bit ambiguous. Are you describing the Koch Bros and Chamber of Commerce?

486 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:42:00am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

A question to the masses. Why do candidates think that they can get away with lying/exaggerating about their military service. Do they really think that they can get away with the lies and not be called out for their lies?

Do they hold such disdain for their constituents? Paladino is the latest in a line of candidates this year that have lied about their military service. In Paladino's case, he claimed to have commanded 250 troops at Fort Bliss over a period of six months. Turns out that he did no such thing. He was at Fort Bliss for 3 months, and commanded some number of troops upon his return to Buffalo.

Why exaggerate about your military service? If you lie/exaggerate about that, what else are you willing to lie about. Moreover, you dishonor those troops who do serve honorably in the Armed Services.

487 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:42:56am

re: #486 lawhawk

A
and
MEN

488 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:44:32am

re: #486 lawhawk

Don't belittle the Battle of El Paso. Oh, the humanity...

489 garhighway  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:44:52am

re: #486 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

A question to the masses. Why do candidates think that they can get away with lying/exaggerating about their military service. Do they really think that they can get away with the lies and not be called out for their lies?

Do they hold such disdain for their constituents? Paladino is the latest in a line of candidates this year that have lied about their military service. In Paladino's case, he claimed to have commanded 250 troops at Fort Bliss over a period of six months. Turns out that he did no such thing. He was at Fort Bliss for 3 months, and commanded some number of troops upon his return to Buffalo.

Why exaggerate about your military service? If you lie/exaggerate about that, what else are you willing to lie about. Moreover, you dishonor those troops who do serve honorably in the Armed Services.

It is odd. You would think that in a big-time (as in statewide) campaign, somebody would flyspeck the resume.

On another NYC note, we have zombies today:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

490 iossarian  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:45:35am

re: #483 sattv4u2

I thought the "Culture of Corruption" was supposed to be eradicated BEFORE it manifested itself!

Thinking about committing a crime will be illegal under Obama!!!!111

If anyone wants to play Ethics 2010: Dems vs. GOP, I am game.

491 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:46:03am

re: #486 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

A question to the masses. Why do candidates think that they can get away with lying/exaggerating about their military service. Do they really think that they can get away with the lies and not be called out for their lies?

Do they hold such disdain for their constituents? Paladino is the latest in a line of candidates this year that have lied about their military service. In Paladino's case, he claimed to have commanded 250 troops at Fort Bliss over a period of six months. Turns out that he did no such thing. He was at Fort Bliss for 3 months, and commanded some number of troops upon his return to Buffalo.

Why exaggerate about your military service? If you lie/exaggerate about that, what else are you willing to lie about. Moreover, you dishonor those troops who do serve honorably in the Armed Services.

What the hell is wrong with these idiots? Do they really think voters are so stupid that they would be impressed by a candidate lying about their military service?

492 iossarian  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:47:18am

I note that Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark and Netherlands are all in the "corruption index" top 10.

Poster boys for big-state democratic socialism all.

493 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:49:27am

re: #489 garhighway

On another NYC note, we have zombies today:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Odd indeed. It sounded like the hordes of commuters that were stuck in delay hell from yesterday and unable to shamble home. /

Either that, or a typical day in the West Village - especially pre-Halloween.

494 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:53:47am

re: #489 garhighway

It is odd. You would think that in a big-time (as in statewide) campaign, somebody would flyspeck the resume.

On another NYC note, we have zombies today:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Gotta love the "Times". Who else would report that story without a photo?

495 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:55:29am

re: #494 Decatur Deb

Gotta love the "Times". Who else would report that story without a photo?

With the dwindling readership, they have pawned their cameras for extra cash!

496 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:55:42am

re: #494 Decatur Deb

[Link: www.myfoxphoenix.com...]

497 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:57:58am

re: #496 lawhawk

Gotta love Fox: "a little-too-close for comfort for pedestrians,".

498 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:59:33am

re: #496 lawhawk

[Link: www.myfoxphoenix.com...]

I thought you said there were zombies?

Looks like the regular lunch time crowd in from the Bronx to me!
//

499 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 8:59:36am

More video of Rand Paul Thugs Stomping Democratic Woman

Youtube Video
501 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:01:46am

re: #497 Decatur Deb

Parts of that video show that no one was actually paying attention to 'em at all. That's typical NY.

502 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:01:59am

re: #167 marjoriemoon

Libertarians are farther right than Republicans!

Wait? what?

I'm so late to this conversation but no way can you use that broad a brush. There is a large segment of libertarians who are left leaning. and while someone like Ron Paul gets a lot more press, that doesn't mean that his is the only view that counts.

I'll be voting Libertarian for Governor and the PSC positions and any other position that has a libertarian candidate, except the senate, where I'm voting Democrat. (the Senate seat doesn't have a runoff and as much as I like voting libertarian, I think Isakson is a terrible senator and needs to go away).

Look, I don't know if your definition of Libertarian is the Ron Paul or Boortz or Reason magazine variety, and if that's your *only* definition of libertarian, then yes, it's pretty conservative and right leaning.

But conversely you have people like Radley Balko and ... I can't believe I'm about to say it, Bob Barr. Yes I know neither one of them are exactly Liberal, but neither are they the frothing mass that you see from Boortz or Reason.

And I don't agree with some of what they write, but at least when I read their stuff I don't feel like I need to take a bath :)

503 iossarian  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:02:20am

re: #499 Killgore Trout

I note Paul is refusing to condemn the assault, essentially saying there was a problem on both sides.

I suppose we'll soon be inundated with video evidence of Democratic women stepping on the necks of prone Tea Partiers. /

504 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:06:21am

re: #501 lawhawk

Parts of that video show that no one was actually paying attention to 'em at all. That's typical NY.

hence ,, #498

505 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:07:18am

Charlie Sheen Found Drunk, Naked, With Escort Locked in Hotel Room Closet

Brooke Mueller might need to rethink how "great" things are with Charlie Sheen.

In the latest bizarre, alcohol-fueled incident involving the actor, Sheen was found this morning in a New York City hotel room, passed out and half-naked on the bed, while a woman who identified herself as an escort was heard screaming from the closet.

"She was fearing for her life and was naked," a source tells Life & Style. "Charlie was incoherent but started screaming slurs at the cops. They recognized him immediately and gave him two options: they could take him to the hospital or take him down to the station. Charlie chose the hospital."

Another insider confirms that "police responded to a call for an intoxicated male" inside The Plaza Hotel around 2 a.m. They arrived to find a trashed room, which included damage to a chandelier and furniture, along with the scene described above.

Even more troubling? Sheen was in NYC on a vacation with ex-wife Denise Richards and their two children.

"His two daughters were sleeping in the next room," says a source. "Denise had to go with the cops and leave the girls with a nanny. She looked distraught."

An onlooker says guests witnessed Sheen being taken away in an ambulance, while paramedics were heard referring to the situation as an "overdose."

** UPDATE: Claims Sheen's rep: "What we are able to determine is that Charlie had an adverse reaction to some medication and was taken to the hospital, where he is expected to be released tomorrow."

506 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:09:26am

re: #501 lawhawk

Parts of that video show that no one was actually paying attention to 'em at all. That's typical NY.

Why I love NY. At 2:30 one morning I was walking home from a date, and got to 42nd and Bryant Park. I stopped at a red light, and a small (8-10) street fight broke out in front of me. Two Scots pipers were walking East on 42, off to my left. They stopped, deployed their pipes, and played the riot.

507 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:10:18am

re: #502 bloodstar

but at least when I read their stuff I don't feel like I need to take a bath :)

Do you ever !?!!?

////

508 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:11:49am

re: #502 bloodstar

Why on earth should anyone trust Bob Barr, though? He's never provided anything like a convincing narrative for how his views have done a 180. He's never really taken responsibility for the damage he did by pushing them for twenty years, either.

Celebrate Bob Barr as someone who changed his mind, but to make him the presidential candidate was such a shockingly cynical decision by the Libertarian Party it removed the last vestige of respect that I had for them as a party.

A quick review of Mond's position on AGW shows that he's ignorant on it. He acknowledges warming, but he doesn't understand what AGW is, using the idiotic phraseology "I am not convinced that humans are the lone source and a debate is needed and long overdue with open dialogue from all sides presenting their respective cases."

Why are big-L Libertarians so universally bad on the subject of science? Is it because science largely belongs to public institutions, or that science shows that communal action is necessary, or that science implies regulation is essential? The Libertarians ought to be the most pro-science party out there, but they're about a half-step better than the GOP-- and that is simply not good enough.

509 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:13:09am

re: #505 NJDhockeyfan

A normal person wouldn't be given that choice.

What an asshole.

510 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:13:50am

re: #506 Decatur Deb

Why I love NY. At 2:30 one morning I was walking home from a date, and got to 42nd and Bryant Park. I stopped at a red light, and a small (8-10) street fight broke out in front of me. Two Scots pipers were walking East on 42, off to my left. They stopped, deployed their pipes, and played the riot.

The old joke

An Irishman (some versions, a Scotsman) walks up to a group of people fighting

"Is this a private brawl or can anyone join in?"

511 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:18:06am

re: #503 iossarian

I note Paul is refusing to condemn the assault, essentially saying there was a problem on both sides.

I suppose we'll soon be inundated with video evidence of Democratic women stepping on the necks of prone Tea Partiers. /

It amazes me how politically stupid these Tea Party candidates are. Who's advising him? It seems simple to me that all he needs to do is send her a nice note or even better go visit her in the hospital, shake her hand and apologize. He'd look like a hero. By doing nothing he and his supporters look like mean, violent assholes. This will cost him votes.

512 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:18:09am

Work to do. BBL

513 deranged cat  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:20:27am

re: #251 Killgore Trout

What Tea Party violence?

Woman stomped outside Conway-Paul debate (with video)

I usually don't make a big deal out of these incidents, scuffles happen at protests and political events. However this one is pretty bad. Looks like 3-4 men beating up a woman and kicking her on the ground. Pretty ugly.

i just saw that this morning.. really messed up. and with a video that shows everything, there's no disputing what happened. but whattya know, troll searching yields some stupid comments:

It's a stunt alright. Leftists with Rand Paul shirts on staging the whole thing. Fake stomps too obvious.

This video did NOT show ANYONE stomping on the head of this protestor!!
Someone put their foot on her shoulder, NOT her head. This is the kind of BI-assed reporting that proves the dimwits are desperate!! They are NOW seeing things on video that simply aren't there.
Is this the kind of people America needs running the country?? NO!!!
JUST A FEW MORE DAYS, FOLKS!!! VOTE ANYTHING but DIM!!!
DOWN WITH DIMWITS!!!

514 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:21:36am

What right wing violence?

515 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:22:20am

ignore my last post i see it's covered. didn't read all te comments :(

516 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:23:06am

re: #515 dreggas

How dare you not read all five hundred comments before wading in?

517 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:23:45am

re: #516 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And the previous 8726743 posts!

518 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:24:10am

re: #508 Obdicut

Why on earth should anyone trust Bob Barr, though? He's never provided anything like a convincing narrative for how his views have done a 180. He's never really taken responsibility for the damage he did by pushing them for twenty years, either.

Celebrate Bob Barr as someone who changed his mind, but to make him the presidential candidate was such a shockingly cynical decision by the Libertarian Party it removed the last vestige of respect that I had for them as a party.

A quick review of Mond's position on AGW shows that he's ignorant on it. He acknowledges warming, but he doesn't understand what AGW is, using the idiotic phraseology "I am not convinced that humans are the lone source and a debate is needed and long overdue with open dialogue from all sides presenting their respective cases."

Why are big-L Libertarians so universally bad on the subject of science? Is it because science largely belongs to public institutions, or that science shows that communal action is necessary, or that science implies regulation is essential? The Libertarians ought to be the most pro-science party out there, but they're about a half-step better than the GOP-- and that is simply not good enough.

To be honest, I think that the reason why a lot of big L Libertarians are bad on the subject of science is because they don't have the guts to say what they really feel, that global warming is such a long term down the road issue that it's something they don't really think is worth investing and regulating as a government.

They're wrong. but that philosophical belief in the limited role of government is a major driving force behind their statements. And to be honest, it's possible Monds really doesn't know enough to make a statement. You're right that it's not good enough, but it's better than a blanket denial that I see from so many conservatives.

Re: Barr - (Disclaimer, I contributed to the Barr Campaign) I totally respect what you're saying and can see where you're coming from, but I think if nothing else, Barr has the zeal of a convert but also the credibility of being a former congressman, which can help sway people to understand the libertarian party isn't just a party of kooks and crazies. The effort didn't quite work, particularly with a polarizing right wing and a historically high turnout and enthusiasm for Obama. (it's hard to get people to vote third party when they're actually happy with their candidates)

I know the Libertarian party has some serious and potentially fatal flaws, but it's still the party closest to my philosophy with the Democrats second. (maybe liberaltarian is more apt for me...)

519 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:24:43am

James O'Keefe is at it again. This time, he targets NJ teacher union.

I think O'keefe's videos are going to be ignored. Even the wingnuts are tired of being duped by this nonsense.

520 deranged cat  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:26:03am

re: #513 deranged cat

got a few more. they struck early at The Atlantic:

It's probably Move On operatives "staging the event"..they've have plenty of practice staging Tea Party extremists all year and then trying to get the public to think these are true tea party members!

you know what gets me? that Tea Party people think that most american people support them. hate to break it to you TP, but the average normal person who watches a video of a person getting stomped on is much more likely to think "oh my, that is violent!" than "that's a plant! they're faking it! it's a conspiracy! the shadows are all wrong!"

521 RadicalModerate  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:26:08am

re: #251 Killgore Trout

What Tea Party violence?

Woman stomped outside Conway-Paul debate (with video)

I usually don't make a big deal out of these incidents, scuffles happen at protests and political events. However this one is pretty bad. Looks like 3-4 men beating up a woman and kicking her on the ground. Pretty ugly.

What's uglier to me is the reaction to this from the rightwing blogs.

The fever swamp is almost universally supporting the assault - they have gone as far as calling her a "suspected terrorist" in the headline. Some of the comments are comparing her to Rachel Corrie (using the term that Charles bans people over), and are expressing remorse that she didn't meet the same fate.

No cache yet, so posting the Google Search for the link.

[Link: www.google.com...]

A few quotes:

The left gets a taste of their own medicine. Sorry, at this point I have no pity...I’d like to stomp a few myself...
6 posted on Tue 26 Oct 2010 06:11:49 AM CST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)

Clearly a case of assault with intent... this bitch was a hit bitch from soros. I hope she suffered some sort of permanent damage.
LLS
24 posted on Tue 26 Oct 2010 06:53:51 AM CST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)

I'd have shot the b**** and been done with it.
L
58 posted on Tue 26 Oct 2010 08:23:12 AM CST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)

522 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:31:14am

re: #519 Killgore Trout

I have my beef with the NJEA (and their ongoing demands for more money despite the fact that the state spends more per student than pretty much anywhere else in the country, and chafes at the need to keep salaries flat at a time when private sector is busy laying off jobs or not giving raises), and they have shown themselves to be anti-Gov. Christie on several occasions, but O'Keefe is simply not credible.

523 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:31:17am

re: #518 bloodstar

They're wrong. but that philosophical belief in the limited role of government is a major driving force behind their statements.

That's what I'm afraid of. In everything I've learned and read and studied over the past five years about complex systems, the one sure-fire way to completely fuck them up is approaching them with an ideology. I don't understand why so many libertarians cannot get the importance of the final two words in "As limited government involvement as possible".

In addition, many libertarians appear to believe the market can predict future needs and address them before they exist-- that the free market will solve global warming because there will be demand to solve global warming. That represents such a strange and incorrect view of economics that it makes me worry about their grasp of economics in general.


I think if nothing else, Barr has the zeal of a convert but also the credibility of being a former congressman, which can help sway people to understand the libertarian party isn't just a party of kooks and crazies.

I think it might help if he actually explained the shift in his views; I've never read anything from him that actually made a convincing narrative. And hell, I came from a somewhat similar place to him, and made a somewhat similar conversion. But I can actually explain, narratively, how that changed in me.


I know the Libertarian party has some serious and potentially fatal flaws, but it's still the party closest to my philosophy with the Democrats second. (maybe liberaltarian is more apt for me...)

I don't think the Libertarians or the Democrats can be accused of having a coherent philosophy.

I'm philosophically in favor of pragmatic and practical solutions for problems that face us; to me, that puts the GOP and the Libertarians in last place, since they are entirely ideologically dominated. The Democrats still have far too much of an ideological approach, but both historically and in the present moment they've shown themselves to be far more pragmatic than ideological.

524 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:31:45am

re: #513 deranged cat

i just saw that this morning.. really messed up. and with a video that shows everything, there's no disputing what happened. but whattya know, troll searching yields some stupid comments:

Head, shoulders...what's the fucking difference. You don't stomp on anyone, especially a woman IMO. What a douchebag statement.

525 Michael McBacon  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:33:27am

Freee speeech 11ty!!

526 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:35:05am

re: #516 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How dare you not read all five hundred comments before wading in?

I only read yours!

527 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:36:07am

re: #526 sattv4u2

I question your sanity, but not your wisdom.

528 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:39:25am

Holy Schnikies

Speaking of Zombies

Maria Shriver (Schwarzenegger) looks awful

She;s speaking before the Women Conference

Sunken hollow cheeks ,.,,way too much (dark) eye makeup,, long unkempt hair

(I know ,, I know ,, but hell , she used to be HOTTTT!!!)

529 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:42:02am

re: #528 sattv4u2

She needs to get to the Chopper! /

530 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:43:20am

re: #529 lawhawk

She needs to get to the Chopper! /

She needs to get to the buffet table!!

531 Slap  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:45:16am

re: #486 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

A question to the masses. Why do candidates think that they can get away with lying/exaggerating about their military service. Do they really think that they can get away with the lies and not be called out for their lies?

Do they hold such disdain for their constituents? Paladino is the latest in a line of candidates this year that have lied about their military service. In Paladino's case, he claimed to have commanded 250 troops at Fort Bliss over a period of six months. Turns out that he did no such thing. He was at Fort Bliss for 3 months, and commanded some number of troops upon his return to Buffalo.

Why exaggerate about your military service? If you lie/exaggerate about that, what else are you willing to lie about. Moreover, you dishonor those troops who do serve honorably in the Armed Services.

I absolutely agree that lying about military service is so contemptible as to be almost beyond language.

I've noticed a larger question over the last few years that's similar to this: in our presently voyeuristic intrusive everything-youve-ever-done-is-subject-to-scrutiny-and-distortion media culture, how does ANY candidate running for office fail to check their frigging closets first? Palindino's is the latest, Meg Whitman's really brought it to mind. The details of her housekeeper situation are squishy enough to be forgivable, in my mind -- BUT: as a candidate running for a ridiculously high-profile office in a state where candidates routinely fall under the most minute scrutiny, running on a platform that contains a strong "control immigration" element, how do you NOT look at your own staff and their documentation BEFORE YOU EVEN RUN???????

Is it arrogance? Contempt for the electorate? Brain-dead stupidity? (A caveat -- I do not believe this is an ideologically-driven thing -- it seems to crop up in small races, large races, conservative, liberal, yada yada.) I just don't get it. I'm not remotely sympathetic to those who fail to check their own closets then get called on it. But with all the investigative tools available to candidates, this just does not compute.

532 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:48:46am

re: #531 Slap

how does ANY candidate running for office fail to check their frigging closets first?

Agree ,, and here's the thing

EVERYONE has a skeleton or two, some more egregious than others

Knowing that at sometime, someone somewhere is going to unearth "yours", why not come right up front with it from the start

"I'm SATTV4U2,,, I'm running for (xxxx). Back in 1973 me and some friends got too drunk one night and painted graffitti all over the College library wall. It was a dumb thing to do, and we paid restitution?

533 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:49:35am

re: #531 Slap

re: #532 sattv4u2

how does ANY candidate running for office fail to check their frigging closets first?

Agree ,, and here's the thing

EVERYONE has a skeleton or two, some more egregious than others

Knowing that at sometime, someone somewhere is going to unearth "yours", why not come right up front with it from the start

"I'm SATTV4U2,,, I'm running for (xxx). Back in 1973 me and some friends got too drunk one night and painted graffitti all over the College library wall. It was a dumb thing to do, and we paid restitution?.

pimf,, but you get the point

534 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:51:52am

re: #523 Obdicut

And by the way, bloodstart, please don't feel that I'm holding you to account for the actions of other libertarians. I just dropped out of paying real attention to the Libertarian party awhile ago, so I'm honestly looking for answers. Thank you for answering with the same honesty.

535 Slap  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:52:35am

re: #533 sattv4u2

Exactly.

Voters have proven time and time again that they can be forgiving of what they perceive as honest oversight and believable contrition.

How does that fact get missed with such breathtaking regularity?

536 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:56:00am

re: #535 Slap

Exactly.

Voters have proven time and time again that they can be forgiving of what they perceive as honest oversight and believable contrition.

How does that fact get missed with such breathtaking regularity?

99.99999% of the time, it looks like

537 ClaudeMonet  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:08:21am

re: #457 NJDhockeyfan

Kucinich was never mayor of Detroit. He was mayor of Cleveland, which at the time was almost as bad.

I noticed several Kasich ads on the site. Kasich, aliens, aliens, Kasich, hmmmmm...

re: #454 NJDhockeyfan

About 50 Rhode Islanders spent $7,500 a plate for a dinner with the president fundraiser. One problem, the president didn't eat with them.

Obama speaks at Chace house, skips lobster, steak

Ouch.

President Obama usually acts with dignity and class. That was tacky and disrespectful, IMO.

re: #440 ProLifeLiberal

Seeing your post, a fair number of us are around Norman and OKC. How many live in the area?

I don't live in the area now. I lived there for three-plus years over 25 years ago after a semi-voluntary corporate transfer. While I never adapted to the way of life, I still have a high regard for the people there and fond memories of the fine people with whom I worked.

538 ClaudeMonet  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:18:19am

re: #528 sattv4u2

Holy Schnikies

Speaking of Zombies

Maria Shriver (Schwarzenegger) looks awful

She;s speaking before the Women Conference

Sunken hollow cheeks ,.,,way too much (dark) eye makeup,, long unkempt hair

(I know ,, I know ,, but hell , she used to be HOTTT!!!)

She always had the sunken, hollow cheeks and was never really hot. She was (and is) well-connected, famous, and rich, which in her time was good enough. ;-)

539 ClaudeMonet  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:23:52am

re: #532 sattv4u2

how does ANY candidate running for office fail to check their frigging closets first?

Agree ,, and here's the thing

EVERYONE has a skeleton or two, some more egregious than others

Knowing that at sometime, someone somewhere is going to unearth "yours", why not come right up front with it from the start

"I'm SATTV4U2,,, I'm running for (xxx). Back in 1973 me and some friends got too drunk one night and painted graffitti all over the College library wall. It was a dumb thing to do, and we paid restitution?

IMO it's a good strategy. Tell everyone that you did something (or many somethings) stupid, admit it in full, and use it to show how you've changed from your young-and-stupid days.

Of course, your opponent(s) will say that you've cherry-picked from among the many incidents in your evil life, and that there MUST BE MORE, but the voters may appreciate your honesty.

As I've mentioned before, if Bill Clinton had said, "I was a college student in 1970, and like most college students then, I smoked a little weed; I did, I don't, I haven't since college", the whole thing would have been a non-issue. "...but I never inhaled" created more trouble than it solved.

540 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:24:12am

re: #538 ClaudeMonet

She always had the sunken, hollow cheeks and was never really hot. She was (and is) well-connected, famous, and rich, which in her time was good enough. ;-)

She had her "hot" moments,, back at a time when she was less "sunken"

[Link: www.bostonherald.com...]

541 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:27:11am

re: #539 ClaudeMonet

100% agree

I'm also on a quest for a candidate(s) that will refuse to do attack ads

Pleasantly, here in Georgia the Senate race between Isakson and Thurmond has not included attack type ads
(iirc,, they made a pledge to keep the battle civil)
I applaud both!


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