Rand Paul Campaign Doesn’t Quite Denounce Stomping Incident

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Here’s the official statement from the Rand Paul campaign on the violence perpetrated by his supporters — and of course, he doesn’t quite condemn it.

“We understand that there was an altercation outside of the debate between supporters of both sides and that is incredibly unfortunate. Violence of any kind has no place in our civil discourse and we urge supporters on all sides to be civil to one another as tensions rise heading toward this very important election. We are relieved to hear that the woman in question was not injured.”

Meanwhile, one of the attackers has been identified as Mike Pezzano, a member of the Lexington Ron/Rand Paul Campaign for Liberty Meetup Group.

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119 comments
1 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:26:45am

He needs to refudiate this attack. Of course he won't because he thinks she deserved it just like the rest of the whackos.

2 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:26:59am
Unconfirmed report that KSP have apprehended the assailants.


Good.

3 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:28:21am

A) "Both sides"? What a fucking coward he is.

B)

We are relieved to hear that the woman in question was not injured.

Oh really?

A MoveOn official tells the Huffington Post that Valle suffered a concussion but was released from the hospital very early on Tuesday morning. She is leaning toward pressing charges, the official added.

4 Kragar  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:29:51am

Now see, what they need to do is set up a political wing and a militant wing, so they can properly separate themselves.

7 garhighway  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:32:46am

They disagree with separation of Church and State, but not Foot and Head.

8 Kragar  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:33:57am

re: #5 Killgore Trout

Limbaugh: MoveOn activist is a "professional agitator," "her head was not stepped on, her shoulders were"

Rush, you bloviating shitbag, it doesn't matter what she was or where they touched her. Her first amendment rights are just as protected and the brownshirts had now right to even lay a finger on her.

9 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:34:22am
10 Kragar  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:35:17am

re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Rush, you bloviating shitbag, it doesn't matter what she was or where they touched her. Her first amendment rights are just as protected and the brownshirts had now right to even lay a finger on her.

no right, not now right.

11 RadicalModerate  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:36:42am
12 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:37:10am

re: #9 Obdicut

Chavez didn't load. Here's a picture of him, because he just looks so gosh-darned wholesome:

Image: cesarchavez.jpg

13 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:39:21am

Right wing blogs are digging into the woman's background. So she gets beaten and stomped by Rand Paul's thugs, then virtually raped by the goons of the wingnut blogosphere.

I do not believe the ugly comments being posted at almost every right wing blog. The entire movement has turned into a pack of rabid animals.

14 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:39:23am

Rand Paul can't be held responsible for what was done by some of his followers.

The best he can do is to denounce what was done by some of his followers.

Now we know not to expect the best from Rand Paul.

15 Kragar  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:39:42am

re: #11 RadicalModerate

Maybe Rush would like to explain the concussion that Ms Valle suffered as a result of this thuggery?

Woman attacked by Rand Paul supporters has concussion, sprained arm, MoveOn says

The explanation is obvious. MoveOn is lying.
/

16 Kragar  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:40:36am

The Founding Fathers never intended the First Amendment to be granted to women holding signs.
/

17 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:41:46am

re: #14 wrenchwench

Rand Paul can't be held responsible for what was done by some of his followers.

The best he can do is to denounce what was done by some of his followers.

Now we know not to expect the best from Rand Paul.

What's worse, is that no matter how badly he managed to perform, he's got a bunch of people who follow him slavishly and justify every stupid act and every foolish statement he makes.

I'd have more respect for his supporters if I felt like it wasn't some sort of screwed up cult of personality.

18 CuriousLurker  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:41:48am

re: #13 Charles

I do not believe the ugly comments being posted at almost every right wing blog. The entire movement has turned into a pack of rabid animals.

EDL in training.

19 Mark Pennington  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:42:04am

re: #13 Charles

Right wing blogs are digging into the woman's background. So she gets beaten and stomped by Rand Paul's thugs, then virtually raped by the goons of the wingnut blogosphere.

I do not believe the ugly comments being posted at almost every right wing blog. The entire movement has turned into a pack of rabid animals.

This is a typical comment: [Link: hotair.com...]

Disgusting.

20 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:42:25am

re: #11 RadicalModerate

Maybe Rush would like to explain the concussion that Ms Valle suffered as a result of this thuggery?

Woman attacked by Rand Paul supporters has concussion, sprained arm, MoveOn says

I'm expecting Rush to demand she be issued a yellow card for diving in front of that innocent man's foot. Oh wait, Rush doesn't support liberal-wussy global-centric sports like soccer...

/

21 BishopX  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:43:43am

OT:

Fiorina (the deom sheep lady) is in the hospital.

AP report

22 TedStriker  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:44:19am

re: #13 Charles

Right wing blogs are digging into the woman's background. So she gets beaten and stomped by Rand Paul's thugs, then virtually raped by the goons of the wingnut blogosphere.

I do not believe the ugly comments being posted at almost every right wing blog. The entire movement has turned into a pack of rabid animals.

And rabid animals have to be put down to reduce the spread of the disease. Of course, you don't, can't, and shouldn't do this with people (with very few exceptions, such as those judged and found guilty of heinous crimes), but this rabid wingnut ideology has to be put down before it spreads and kills the American body politic.

23 Kragar  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:44:56am

re: #19 beekiller

This is a typical comment: [Link: hotair.com...]

Disgusting.

She was wearing a wig. Obviously a sign of a pending terrorist attack on Rand.
/

24 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:45:19am

They are his supporters so he cannot completely condemn them. He appears to wagging his finger at them and saying, "Now now we cannot be doing that." And letting them do whatever they want.

25 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:46:08am

re: #23 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Because wearing a wig makes a woman incredibly threatening. Because.

Um.

And she had a sign! Those are really rare and unusual at political rallies, so...

Um.

Yeah.

26 mmnowakjr85  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:46:21am

The HotAir message board is in full spin control, per usual:

Since men are the minority gender … nothing. In fact, we’re really victims. We need to get our victim act together.
darwin on October 26, 2010 at 12:36 PM


The video clearly shows her head was not stepped on.
fossten on October 26, 2010 at 12:48 PM

Never let facts get in the way of a lunatic.
tetriskid on October 26, 2010 at 12:49 PM

I stopped reading right there. The burden of proof is on you to show where she was stepped on the head, not for me to prove she wasn’t. You FAIL.
Next.
fossten on October 26, 2010 at 1:22 PM

27 deranged cat  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:47:29am

"Mike Pezzano is a member of the Lexington Ron/Rand Paul Campaign for Liberty Meetup Group"

OH. so hes NOT a liberal disguised as a tea partier, as part of the liberal conspiracy aimed at trying to make the tea party look violent? hes just... a violent tea partier?

28 RadicalModerate  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:47:32am

re: #13 Charles

Right wing blogs are digging into the woman's background. So she gets beaten and stomped by Rand Paul's thugs, then virtually raped by the goons of the wingnut blogosphere.

I do not believe the ugly comments being posted at almost every right wing blog. The entire movement has turned into a pack of rabid animals.

What disgusts me the most is the fact that there is a significant number of posters who not only support the thugs, but are openly advocating violence against people they perceive to be political or theological opposition.

29 jaunte  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:48:00am

re: #13 Charles

R. S. McCain's commenters are calling it staged, or stuck on the legalistic difference between head stomping and shoulder-pushing-down; he's defending it as a case of 'these things happen' on the campaign trail.

30 Charleston Chew  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:48:56am

When I was in grade school, the school yard bully would grab my hand and start hitting me in the face with it, all the while saying, "This is incredibly unfortunate. Violence of any kind has no place on the playground and I urge you to be civil with yourself."

31 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:49:58am

re: #20 oaktree

I'm expecting Rush to demand she be issued a yellow card for diving in front of that innocent man's foot. Oh wait, Rush doesn't support liberal-wussy global-centric sports like soccer...

/

I fear it's a little darker than that... It's about 'real America' and real americans. She's a liberal and a part of America that really isn't. It's about dehumanizing and making anyone opposed to their brand of conservatism into the enemy.

What happened to her was pretty bad, but the reactions to the attack and justifications of the attacks coupled with the character assassination of her is even worse.

It's not enough to win for Conservatives now, it's about destroying the opposition and winning no matter what the cost to the country.

32 garhighway  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:50:44am

re: #27 deranged cat

"Mike Pezzano is a member of the Lexington Ron/Rand Paul Campaign for Liberty Meetup Group and he-man woman stompers club"

New info.

33 funky chicken  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:50:46am

Nothing says liberty like assaulting uppity women!

34 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:51:03am

What is with the TP candidates not wanting to retain legitimate security?
First Miller hires a gang of nutjob survivalists who handcuff a reporter, then RP has a bunch of goons who can't restrain a lone female demonstrator without knocking her down and stepping on her. It seems to be a real pattern that they would prefer to rely on their thuggish co-ideologues even if it leads to completely unwarranted violence and the arrest of those selfsame thugs. Combined with Paul's ambiguous response, I think they do this because it actually plays well with the base. As I said of the Miller episode, it's a feature, not a bug, for them. LVQ's comparison to the Nazi era brownshirts is not out of line at all here.
Btw, I concede the need to keep an unknown but clearly antagonistic person from making physical contact with the candidate, any candidate. Security professionals could have done it almost without being noticed.

35 Kragar  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:51:29am

re: #31 bloodstar

I fear it's a little darker than that... It's about 'real America' and real americans. She's a liberal and a part of America that really isn't. It's about dehumanizing and making anyone opposed to their brand of conservatism into the enemy.

What happened to her was pretty bad, but the reactions to the attack and justifications of the attacks coupled with the character assassination of her is even worse.

It's not enough to win for Conservatives now, it's about destroying the opposition and winning no matter what the cost to the country.

Anyone who is not with them is a godless commie who hates America and they're starting to take action.

36 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:54:01am
37 jaunte  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:54:17am

re: #27 deranged cat

"Mike Pezzano is a member of the Lexington Ron/Rand Paul Campaign for Liberty Meetup Group"

OH. so hes NOT a liberal disguised as a tea partier, as part of the liberal conspiracy aimed at trying to make the tea party look violent? hes just... a violent tea partier?

He's afraid someone is coming to take his guns:
[Link: www.meetup.com...]

38 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:58:12am

Hot Air comment...


I still see nothing wrong.

Next time this happens and someone doesn’t knock the B*tch out, I’ll probably regret, but i’ll crack a smile when her bomb goes off.

MadDogF on October 26, 2010 at 1:02 PM

39 TedStriker  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:59:22am

re: #34 Shiplord Kirel

What is with the TP candidates not wanting to retain legitimate security?
First Miller hires a gang of nutjob survivalists who handcuff a reporter, then RP has a bunch of goons who can't restrain a lone female demonstrator without knocking her down and stepping on her. It seems to be a real pattern that they would prefer to rely on their thuggish co-ideologues even if it leads to completely unwarranted violence and the arrest of those selfsame thugs. Combined with Paul's ambiguous response, I think they do this because it actually plays well with the base. As I said of the Miller episode, it's a feature, not a bug, for them. LVQ's comparison to the Nazi era brownshirts is not out of line at all here.
Btw, I concede the need to keep an unknown but clearly antagonistic person from making physical contact with the candidate, any candidate. Security professionals could have done it almost without being noticed.

Security professionals, from a TPer/wingnut candidate's perspective, put doing their job well (and within the law) ahead of any political or ideological biases (at least they should be)....the worst of the worst TPer/wingnut candidates want ideologically indoctrinated thugs, their own cadres of SA brownshirts, that will do anything for them and the "cause".

40 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:00:04am

re: #39 talon_262

Security professionals, from a TPer/wingnut candidate's perspective, put doing their job well (and within the law) ahead of any political or ideological biases (at least they should be)...the worst of the worst TPer/wingnut candidates want ideologically indoctrinated thugs, their own cadres of SA brownshirts, that will do anything for them and the "cause".

Not to Godwin the thread, but this shit is really starting to scare me.

41 jaunte  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:00:09am

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Breitbart twitters equivalence:

Dude who stomped MoveOn head clearly overplayed hand in stopping her idiocy & hope hes held to account unlike so many lefties in this cycle.


'Overplayed hand?' WTF.

42 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:01:11am

re: #41 jaunte

Breitbart twitters equivalence:


'Overplayed hand?' WTF.

Overplayed his hand?

Overplaying your hand Andrew is excessive wankery, something you're quite familiar with.

43 TedStriker  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:03:00am

re: #40 PT Barnum

Not to Godwin the thread, but this shit is really starting to scare me.

Agreed...I hate to write off the whole GOP, with elections coming up and all, but shit like this makes me gunshy in pulling the lever for any Republican right now, even if a candidate isn't batshit crazy.

44 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:03:32am

I made the comment that at some point it might be good for the wingnuts to get into office and show how absolutely unserious they are about actually governing, just so people would have the empirical evidence they seem to lack to realize these guys are just a bunch of bozos.

But I'm starting to think that is just too dangerous.

45 Nervous Norvous  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:05:11am

re: #43 talon_262

Agreed...I hate to write off the whole GOP, with elections coming up and all, but shit like this makes me gunshy in pulling the lever for any Republican right now, even if a candidate isn't batshit crazy.

Go with that feeling. I think what has to happen is that either the Repubs suffer a drastic defeat showing that the country rejects their current direction or that the economy improves enough so that people stop being quite so scared.

46 Charleston Chew  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:05:42am

re: #41 jaunte

Overplayed foot, perhaps.

47 TedStriker  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:07:28am

re: #39 talon_262

Wow, I really botched this one...meant:

Security professionals, from a TPer/wingnut candidate's perspective, put doing their job well (and within the law) ahead of any political or ideological biases (at least they should be)...the worst of the worst TPer/wingnut candidates want ideologically indoctrinated thugs, their own cadres of SA brownshirts, that will do anything for them and the "cause".

48 yitzy  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:09:30am

Meetup?...Muslim?...both begin with the same letter!

Coincidence?

//

49 Stanghazi  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:09:33am

OMG, Paul the Pulpo died.

50 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:12:17am

re: #49 Stanley Sea

OMG, Paul the Pulpo died.

2 years old.
About the average for an octopus.

51 Kragar  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:12:47am

re: #50 Varek Raith

2 years old.
About the average for an octopus.

The FSM called him home.

52 Stanghazi  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:12:47am

re: #50 Varek Raith

2 years old.
About the average for an octopus.

Yeah, but but. :(

53 Ming  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:14:10am

When will grown-up Republicans (Colin Powell is the only one I can think of at the moment) speak up and condemn some of these Republican crazy candidates? Do we have to have a whole spate of violent episodes first?

54 darthstar  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:14:19am

Just saw the video. The guy's face is clear as day. A simple reward offered by any news network will get the asshole reported (probably by his spouse).

55 jaunte  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:15:24am

re: #49 Stanley Sea

OMG, Paul the Pulpo died.

Goodbye Pulpo Paul
Though I never knew you at all
You had the jets to propel yourself
While those around you crawled

They crawled into the Sea Life Centre
And gave you mussels to choose
They let you pick the winners
And ignore the ones who'd lose

And it seems to me you lived your life
Like a cephalopod in the wind
Always knowing which to cling to
'Ere the games'd begin
[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com...]

56 Big Steve  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:16:36am

re: #21 BishopX

OT:

Fiorina (the deom sheep lady) is in the hospital.

AP report

The ex-Mrs Big Steve went through breast cancer treatment a two years ago. There are all sorts of secondary infections and strange medical things that can go on. I wish the best to Ms Fiorina.

57 Nick Schroeder  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:17:21am

I like how the Paultards who crafted the statement were able to ham-fist the 'both sides are the same' mantra into this lukewarm denunciation.

58 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:17:28am

re: #56 Big Steve

The ex-Mrs Big Steve went through breast cancer treatment a two years ago. There are all sorts of secondary infections and strange medical things that can go on. I wish the best to Ms Fiorina.

Amen

( and to the ex, I hope she has clear sailing from here on out)

59 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:17:35am

Poll watchers recording information on voters at polling places in florida.

I'm sure they are pure and innocent and there's no intent to harass people at all

//

60 funky chicken  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:19:08am

OMG, the Christine O'Donnell ads here on LGF are paid for by "restore America's voice" PAC.

good grief

61 Charleston Chew  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:19:56am

re: #53 Ming

"When will Colin Powell speak up?" is a question many people have asked for many years. He's apparently not a "speak up" kinda guy. Maybe that's how one gets to be a four-star general and Sec. of State.

62 BongCrodny  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:21:12am

re: #53 Ming

When will grown-up Republicans (Colin Powell is the only one I can think of at the moment) speak up and condemn some of these Republican crazy candidates? Do we have to have a whole spate of violent episodes first?

"Grown-up Republicans."

Stop, you're killing me!

63 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:21:28am

re: #57 Nick Schroeder

I like how the Paultards who crafted the statement were able to ham-fist the 'both sides are the same' mantra into this lukewarm denunciation.

Because they would not have done it except out of self-defense, just like Joe Miller's private security guards

/

64 iossarian  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:23:17am

re: #60 funky chicken

OMG, the Christine O'Donnell ads here on LGF are paid for by "restore America's voice" PAC.

good grief

Deluge of corporate money pre-election.

Freedom of speech and all that.

65 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:23:28am

re: #53 Ming

When will grown-up Republicans (Colin Powell is the only one I can think of at the moment) speak up and condemn some of these Republican crazy candidates? Do we have to have a whole spate of violent episodes first?


Powell just shut up and played along with the Iraqi WMD scam, which he later condemned as a "blot on my record", but he seems disinclined to get involved in this mess.

Probably because, as a good soldier, he knows how to choose his ground and not give battle unless he feels stands a fair chance of winning.

66 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:24:21am

war on Halloween!

67 Kragar  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:24:42am

re: #63 ralphieboy

Because they would not have done it except out of self-defense, just like Joe Miller's private security guards

/

A woman wearing a wig holding a sign is one of many natural danger signals that will cause a reflexive "Fight or Flight" response in the average male.

68 abbyadams  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:25:23am

re: #31 bloodstar

I have to agree 100%. I mean no disrespect to the conservatives here, but I started to lose my faith in conservatism as soon as I found out what happens when you say that a war might not be a good idea. I had angry and threatening notes left on my car, I was called a "coward" that "didn't respect the military" and that (of course) I could "love it or leave it." I know it's nothing that my mom's generation didn't experience in the 1960s, but it nevertheless disheartening.

69 blueraven  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:25:43am

Let's see. She is being accused of showing up in a wig and carrying a sign. OMG!

The TP people would defend to the end, their own right to show up at a presidential event with loaded guns while wearing T-shirts proclaiming we need to water the tree of liberty with a little blood every now and then.

As to carrying signs, and wearing funny costumes...No hypocrisy at all. Nope, none.

70 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:26:01am

re: #67 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

A woman wearing a wig holding a sign is one of many natural danger signals that will cause a reflexive "Fight or Flight" response in the average male.

heh ,, a woman that I dated 5 years ago showing up at my door with a 4 year old child does that for me!


///

71 Kragar  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:30:18am

From a WaPo article, Miller has ties to militia group

This was followed by word that William Fulton, the head of Miller's security team, is associated with the Alaska Citizens Militia. He supplies military gear to the group and participates in the militia's online forum. In that sense, he may have something to talk about with Terry Moffitt, a security consultant who describes himself as the "Christian Indiana Jones" - and who is also doing work for Miller.

72 funky chicken  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:31:21am

Well, per TPM the Randy campaign has decided they'd better denounce this attack after all. I wonder how long it will take Limbaugh to change his tune? It'll be fun to track rightwingnutters like Jim Hoft as they spin like crazy to get in line with the campaign's change in message here.

73 APox  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:31:21am

In other news, we dropped out of the top twenty least corrupt countries. With a little effort maybe we can beat chile for 21st place

[Link: us.mobile.reuters.com...]

74 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:35:31am

I'm putting together a post on right wing blog reactions - if you see an especially interesting one, post it in this thread and I'll include it.

75 engineer cat  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:35:40am

Vote Tea Party
for
Poor Impulse Control!

76 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:37:29am

re: #75 engineer dog

Vote Tea Party
for
Poor Impulse Control!

too much tea gives my wife poor bladder control,, does that count!?!?!

77 deranged cat  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:37:32am

re: #72 funky chicken

Well, per TPM the Randy campaign has decided they'd better denounce this attack after all. I wonder how long it will take Limbaugh to change his tune? It'll be fun to track rightwingnutters like Jim Hoft as they spin like crazy to get in line with the campaign's change in message here.

[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com...]

"The Paul for Senate campaign is extremely disappointed in, and condemns the actions of a supporter last night outside the KET debate. Whatever the perceived provocation, any level of aggression or violence is deplorable, and will not be tolerated by our campaign. The Paul campaign has disassociated itself from the volunteer who took part in this incident, and once again urges all activists -- on both sides -- to remember that their political passions should never manifest themselves in physical altercations of any kind."

78 Interesting Times  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:39:49am

re: #77 deranged cat

Translation: "Damn. We got caught."

79 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:40:27am

re: #77 deranged cat

The Paul campaign has disassociated itself from the volunteer who took part in this incident,


Interesting development.

80 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:40:43am

em>re: #77 deranged cat

"The Paul for Senate campaign is extremely disappointed in, and condemns the actions of a supporter last night outside the KET debate. Whatever the perceived provocation, any level of aggression or violence is deplorable, and will not be tolerated by our campaign. The Paul campaign has disassociated itself from the volunteer who took part in this incident, and once again urges all activists -- on both sides -- to remember that their political passions should never manifest themselves in physical altercations of any kind."

Because we all know there are so many cases of Left wingers curb stomping people at political rallies...

*facepalm*

81 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:42:04am

re: #77 deranged cat

There was more than one volunteer who took part. Somebody else took her to the ground before that guy stomped on her.

And his Magical Balance Fairy has on a nice tutu:

-- on both sides --
82 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:43:12am
83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:46:42am

re: #73 APox

We're still ahead of Angola.

84 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:46:42am

re: #82 Dreggas

Want to be a staffer? Have to pass the purity test


I remember when the Born Again Christians got ahold of the Olympic Committe in 1984 and were hiring translators for the LA games only if they were Born Again Christians.

Being a non-born again Russian Student, I was a bit miffed until Russia pulled out of the Olympics as a reprisal for the US pulling out of the 1980 Olympics over Afghanistan.

85 darthstar  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:48:15am
86 engineer cat  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:48:16am

freeper thread

Another left wing activist news whore. HO-Hum

When I saw the video I thought, this guy knows he is being filmed (cameras were very close) and he puts his foot on the gals head? I found it odd. Now, I think it was a set up by the scum at Move On.org - they are so desperate and truly are miserable souls. Noting is beneath them and they are proud of that fact. Pitiful specimens. I hope they get found out!!!!

Sounds like it could be, literally, Nazi tactics. The Nazis used to go to opponents’ rallies and deliberately cause violence at an otherwise peaceful meeting.

Note that everyone is ignoring this part...

The second occurred after a Conway supporter stepped on the foot of a female Rand supporter, who recently had foot surgery, according to police.

The woman was wearing a surgical boot, but after the injury, her incision was cut open. Police say she refused medical treatment and also filed an assault report.

We were thinking that the entire thing might have been staged.
Would like to know the identity of the men who “attacked” her.

My thoughts are there is a smelly rat involved. We all know how much they lie.

(hat tip Rush)
So an unknown woman, wearing a disguise, carrying signs from a radical organization, shoves her way through a crowd and tries to shove an unknown object at a political candidate? And people are making her the victim?

What would the Secret Service have done if someone tried to do this to President Obama?

Why not look up her history, this woman has a history of political stunts.

There are big Reichstag fires and little ones. This looks to be a little one.

I think I speak for all FReepers when I say that even if this is a fakeout we can’t have a R candidate with this sort of stain. We need to remember that we are not just electing candidates who have to be perfect, but we also are electing an entourage.

If a supporter, or someone claiming to be a supporter, does something that makes me feel uncomfortable, then we have no choice but to never support that candidate again. I think I speak for all FReepers when I say it is better to continue to lose forever by finding something some supporter said or did to cause me to support the Democrat opponent than to elect someone with that kind of supporter.

Sanctimonious FReepers unite and commence operation lose-it-all-smugly. Follow in the footsteps of those brave Sanctimonious ones in Connecticut who supported Joe Lieberman instead of 3 other better candidates and those who supported Barack Obama in Illinois for senate.

“I think I speak for all FReepers when I say that even if this is a fakeout we can’t have a R candidate with this sort of stain. We need to remember that we are not just electing candidates who have to be perfect, but we also are electing an entourage...”

Sarcasm on, I assume...

87 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:49:42am

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We're still ahead of Angola.

Angola Jolie??

88 deranged cat  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:50:41am

a kind of satisfying end to this argument i'd been having with libertarian, who was claiming that Paul didn't need to explicitly condemn it since the supporter did it out of his own free will and that Paul didn't "order it". Felt good to say "ooo! Looks like that little statement wasn't enough, Paul had to explicitly condemn the supporter!"

89 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:52:25am

Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?

90 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:53:52am

re: #74 Charles

I'm putting together a post on right wing blog reactions - if you see an especially interesting one, post it in this thread and I'll include it.

The comments at Free Republic are a mother lode of batshit toxic crazy.

91 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:53:53am

How hard is it to simply say, these people were wrong and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. We as a nation do not condone criminality, particularly political violence. Period.

Instead, we get a statement that highlights Paul's lack of character, judgment, and flawed morality and ethics that shows him unworthy of representing the state as an elected official. And you've got his supporters cheering him for it? And people trying to support those who assaulted this woman?

Really.

92 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:54:52am

re: #85 darthstar

Curb Stomper's been identified.

Well, well, well,,,

93 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:55:29am

re: #91 lawhawk

How hard is it to simply say, these people were wrong and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. We as a nation do not condone criminality, particularly political violence. Period.

Maybe we as a nation don't but then again we're not part of real 'Merika.

(I am tempted to put in the snark sign but sadly, this is the kind of stuff these people have supported for years).

94 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:55:48am

re: #91 lawhawk

How hard is it to simply say, these people were wrong and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. We as a nation do not condone criminality, particularly political violence. Period.

Instead, we get a statement that highlights Paul's lack of character, judgment, and flawed morality and ethics that shows him unworthy of representing the state as an elected official. And you've got his supporters cheering him for it? And people trying to support those who assaulted this woman?

Really.

Sadly, he will still probably win the election.

95 Nick Schroeder  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:56:09am

re: #74 Charles

You can never go wrong with FreeRepublic. I'd post some quotes but the whole thread is pretty much pro-beating-up-women-as-long-as-they're-liberals.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2614679/posts

96 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:56:13am

re: #85 darthstar

Curb Stomper's been identified.

Clearly a Dem Machine plant.

97 deranged cat  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:56:36am

re: #85 darthstar

i thought it was Mike Pezzano?

98 celticdragon  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:56:42am

re: #3 Obdicut

A) "Both sides"? What a fucking coward he is.

B)

Oh really?

The wingnuts at Megan McArdles are in full magical balance fairy mode.

Dontcha know the left is just as bad because there were some guys called the Weathermen back in the sixties, and an American expat lefty killed somebody in Denmark. (yeah, that was really claimed as evidence that the left is out to do whatever...).

These fuckers are nothing more than apologists.


Oh...they are already back to screaming about the need to watch out for black people vote fraud in minority districts. In the same thread about patriot boot stompers, no less.

*venomously dripping sarcasm*

99 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:57:29am

re: #97 deranged cat

I think Pezzano was the one who held her down.

100 joest73  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:58:49am

I responded in the first post on this incident and after watching the video I admit I was wrong in comparing this to any previous staged incidents. Regardless of the her motives, she didn't deserve this treatment from these thugs.

101 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:58:51am

re: #31 bloodstar

I fear it's a little darker than that... It's about 'real America' and real americans. She's a liberal and a part of America that really isn't. It's about dehumanizing and making anyone opposed to their brand of conservatism into the enemy.

What happened to her was pretty bad, but the reactions to the attack and justifications of the attacks coupled with the character assassination of her is even worse.

It's not enough to win for Conservatives now, it's about destroying the opposition and winning no matter what the cost to the country.

Which is why I regard them as revolutionaries similar to the Jacobins or Bolsheviks. In the words of Henry Kissinger, "The distinguishing feature of a revolutionary power is not that it feels threatened…but that nothing can reassure it (Kissinger's emphasis). Only absolute security—the neutralization of the opponent—is considered a sufficient guarantee."

102 celticdragon  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:59:09am

re: #90 Alouette

The comments at Free Republic are a mother lode of batshit toxic crazy.

I will not expose my mental well being to that, thank you very much. I would rather contemplate the insanity of a Lovecraftian obscenity than read the regurgitated vomitous at Redstate.

103 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:59:29am

re: #98 celticdragon

These fuckers are nothing more than apologists.

Now now, don't sell them short, they're quite a bit more than that. They're also woman hating, greasy pieces of sociopathic trash.

104 Decatur Deb  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 12:00:03pm

re: #99 Dreggas

I think Pezzano was the one who held her down.

Takes more than one asshole to properly stomp a woman.

105 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 12:00:16pm

re: #98 celticdragon

This isn't a time or place for magical fairy balance. These guys assaulted this woman at a political rally because of her political position. Period.

That deserves zero tolerance. Not excuses because the other side did that at some other point (whether in recent history or 30 years ago).

You don't want it happening to your supporters. You don't want it happening to your opponents either.

Yet, Paul couldn't come up with that answer.

And yes, he's still likely to win his election in just about a week's time.

107 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 12:00:45pm

re: #100 joest73

I responded in the first post on this incident and after watching the video I admit I was wrong in comparing this to any previous staged incidents. Regardless of the her motives, she didn't deserve this treatment from these thugs.

Now can you admit you were wrong to characterize it in any way before you watched the available evidence?

108 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 12:01:26pm

re: #100 joest73

I responded in the first post on this incident and after watching the video I admit I was wrong in comparing this to any previous staged incidents. Regardless of the her motives, she didn't deserve this treatment from these thugs.

So you opened your pig ignorant mouth before actually watching the video? Color me unsurprised.

109 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 12:04:17pm

re: #67 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

A woman wearing a wig holding a sign is one of many natural danger signals that will cause a reflexive "Fight or Flight" response in the average male.

Except these guys are average. And the male appellation is iffy too.

110 engineer cat  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 12:04:42pm

i was going to comment that it was interesting that in two of the freeper threads there was somebody who spoke up saying that the incident made them uncomfortable with the paul supporters, and that violence wasn't good

then i went back to check and found that these anti-violence comments had been expunged

111 celticdragon  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 12:05:05pm

re: #105 lawhawk

This isn't a time or place for magical fairy balance. These guys assaulted this woman at a political rally because of her political position. Period.

That deserves zero tolerance. Not excuses because the other side did that at some other point (whether in recent history or 30 years ago).

You don't want it happening to your supporters. You don't want it happening to your opponents either.

Yet, Paul couldn't come up with that answer.

And yes, he's still likely to win his election in just about a week's time.

Try telling that to the idiots who claim that she had it coming and...and...and...some guy got shoved by a librul at a rally, maybe!!/////

There simply is no way to talk about actual human decency and what is acceptable in a mature democracy to people who feel that the government and everybody else they disagree with are actual enemies to be violently subjugated.

112 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 12:05:36pm

re: #108 goddamnedfrank

So you opened your pig ignorant mouth before actually watching the video? Color me unsurprised.

I think chartreuse is a better color for you

113 engineer cat  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 12:05:56pm

re: #110 engineer dog

then i went back to check and found that these anti-violence comments had been expunged

no, wait - i was wrong about this - oops

114 joest73  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 12:06:45pm

re: #107 wrenchwench

Now can you admit you were wrong to characterize it in any way before you watched the available evidence?

Yes. Video is blocked here. I should have pulled out my Nexus One and watched the video before commenting on the incident.

115 Nick Schroeder  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 12:06:49pm

This one from the freeper thread is particularly heartwarming....

To: LibLieSlayer
I hope she suffered some sort of permanent damage.
------

Lets see....she is a liberal so she is already a) Ugly, and 2) brain damaged.

I can't figure out what more you can do to liberals other than driving a stake through their heart and setting them on fire in the sunlight.

Hyperbole, I'm sure.

116 celticdragon  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 12:10:56pm

re: #115 Nick Schroeder

This one from the freeper thread is particularly heartwarming...

To: LibLieSlayer
I hope she suffered some sort of permanent damage.
---

Lets see...she is a liberal so she is already a) Ugly, and 2) brain damaged.

I can't figure out what more you can do to liberals other than driving a stake through their heart and setting them on fire in the sunlight.

Hyperbole, I'm sure.

I really don't see how we avoid actual gunfire at one of these events. We are really building to serious bloodshed, and it is being egged on by non stop professional right wing hate.

117 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 12:11:46pm

re: #98 celticdragon

The wingnuts at Megan McArdles are in full magical balance fairy mode.

Dontcha know the left is just as bad because there were some guys called the Weathermen back in the sixties, and an American expat lefty killed somebody in Denmark. (yeah, that was really claimed as evidence that the left is out to do whatever...).

These fuckers are nothing more than apologists.

Oh...they are already back to screaming about the need to watch out for black people vote fraud in minority districts. In the same thread about patriot boot stompers, no less.

*venomously dripping sarcasm*

They will also cite the black bloc anarchists who show up at far left events. This ignores a few relevant facts: The lefty organizers instantly repudiate the black bloc and make an effort to keep them away, and the organizers of far left events are themselves a long way from representing the Democratic Party, let alone working formally for a Democratic campaign. This is lost on TPers, though, for whom McCain is a closet socialist and Obama an outright Marxist.

118 mmnowakjr85  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 12:29:24pm

re: #74 Charles
From Hotair..

LOL … I think a lot of Conservatives are schizophrenic or something.
I mean seriously – the people who are “outraged” by this are more “outraged” by this than anything that’s EVER been done to our side. What does that tell you?
For me? Hell – had I been there, I would have grabbed the woman but not kicked her. But in the end – she’s just another Socialist working for MoveOn – the same people who called General Petraeus … “General Betrayus”.
Yeah – I’m cryin’ my little heart out for her.
I’ll remind here – that the colonials TARRED AND FEATHERED Torries.
This woman’s treatment was far more humane.
But please – don’t let me interrupt the righteous indignation tailgater going on in this thread!
LOL!
HondaV65 on October 26, 2010 at 2:40 PM
119 ClaudeMonet  Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:50:25pm

re: #21 BishopX

OT:

Fiorina (the deom sheep lady) is in the hospital.

AP report

I don't care for her or her politics, and her record as a CEO is certainly impeachable. That said, I wish her a full recovery and a long, happy life.

re: #90 Alouette

The comments at Free Republic are a mother lode of batshit toxic crazy.

Ma nishtana ha-laila ha-zeh?

re: #89 ralphieboy

Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?

Upding for the "Becket" reference.


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